By the way this build will be happening in the unfinished basement. Four 2 X 6 Studded walls.

Thanks
Steve

Updates:

Well today we finished up the electrical work.

Installed the Motorized curtain track (that I feel I got cheated on). When I opened up the Track box, the track was a skinny, wimpsy, cheap white track with a small BTX Motor. When I ordered a BTX track in NY, they delivered me a real nice heavy duty Track with 2 nice big BTX Motors. I think you can get this same track (generic name) on eBay for $150. I paid $550.00 for the BTX name.

We installed the Equipment Rack.

We also thoroughly cleaned the theater out so Its ready for the Carpet people next week.

I ordered my perforated metal Grils for the Columns to go under the GoM for extra Support. Cost was $350.00 for 6 25" x 44" perforated steel sheets with a 41% openness.

The Prosceniums still need to be made. We are going to wait for the carpet before we install them. We did get all our wood painted Black for them though.

And Yes, Finally, we painted the grooves on the columns and Removed the blue tape.

So Here are the Pictures:

Here is the Equipment Rack without the Wood Trim and with the service track Attached. Those are some of the custom rack shelves installed for the Amps and other equipment I have thats not rackmountable. Maybe this Weekend I will start hooking up the equipment in there...

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08350.jpg

The Rack Rolls out..

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08353.jpg

And Rotates in both directions so you can access the wires in the back. The rack is made by Middle Atlantic and Costs about $800.00 with the service track.

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08354.jpg

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08355.jpg

Here are some theater shots so Far...

That openening is where my Curved 2.35:1 Audio transparent Screen will be hanging and my 2 Main speakers, center channel and Sub will be in there too. You can see some of the treatments on the wall behind the screen wall. That is all 4" Cotton, the bottom 2 Feet gets paper faced and I will be GoMing that wall behind the screen as well.

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08334.jpg

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08345.jpg

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08346.jpg

http://loutrixrecords.com/images/theater-pix/rack-installed/DSC08343.jpg

Enjoy!

Anybody know where to buy Middle Atlantic Products (the equipment rack) online? Or does anybody know of other manufactures of these types of products? In particular I am considering something like this:
http://www.middleatlantic.com/enclosure/roll/asr_hd.htm
Thanks again. This forum has been super helpful and quick to the draw on all my posts.

Looks awesome again Ruben. I had a flood in my theatre last week, so its pretty much lying in ruin right now. May need to order another screen hahaa. Is there any way to restretch my existing one?

Thanks
Ryan

Anybody know where to buy Middle Atlantic Products (the equipment rack) online? Or does anybody know of other manufactures of these types of products? In particular I am considering something like this:
http://www.middleatlantic.com/enclosure/roll/asr_hd.htm
Thanks again. This forum has been super helpful and quick to the draw on all my posts.

Did you do a google search for Middle Atlantic Racks (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-07,GGLD:en&q=middle+atlantic+racks) ?

It seems besides the main Middle Atlantic page every other link is a "online" dealer. You'll need to figure out what you want and piece it together.

AMEN! I hate Cinemar - spent hours and hours and hours only to have it work sometimes and never the way I wanted. Very angry I spent the money on that when MyMovies can now do more than the Cinemar DVDLobby software. And MyMovies is free!! :mad: I control everything with a Harmony 880. Much improved. Definitely don't recommend that folks go with Cinemar unless they are extremely bored and enjoy frustration.

I think your comments are a bit extreme. I have been using cinemar for almost 2 years. It is not for people that don't like to tinker, but it is great for people that want complete control. If you are just looking for IR control with a movie library, there are lots of solutions that are easier.

My Cinemar implementation (I did this myself) controls lighting, A/V, Pool, HVAC, monitors energy usage, whole house sound and irrigation. They have lots of plugins. The biggest issue was lighting because Insteon is so buggy, but some of us adopted the ISY and now all is well.

My screens are here https://bigd.homeserver.com/cinemar/defaultnew.html and were built with their graphics libraries.

For a list of components I control without any issue.

Russound CAV
Russound ST2
Russound SMS3 (currently replacing SMS3 with Itunes plugin)
Onkyo receivers (2) via Serial (1 via GC100 downstairs)
1 pioneer receiver in son's gameroom via IR
2 Tivos via IR
1 Bluray via IR
1 XBOX360 via IR
1 AVATRIX-562 via serial that routes all the above sources to 6 different room
1 oppo DVD downstiars using a GC100 to route IR over an IP network
1 Sony projector, 2 Toshiba TVs and 1 Samsung TV.

Home DVDs are on a Windows Home server that runs Cinemar Server and serves 3 touchpanels.

1 DAvis Weatherstation for real-time data including sensors in A/V closet
1 compool pool controller (had to write my own plugin)
75 Insteon devices using ISY to control insteon and webservice to integrate to cinemar

TED Energy mangement monitor to monitor energy usage
Prophilix IP thermostats which are monitored along with wiring closet temps to control exhaust fans and A/C

Again, as Sandman says, it is best to use someone that configures cinemar professionally if you aren't a tinkerer.

If you want full control for less than the cost of a projector then it is a viable and workable option. My system has not been down in over a year unless I updated something and had to restart the sytem.

Don't disagree, I'm sure Cinemar has good uses for more exotic control systems - just wanted to warn folks like me who are looking for a simple DVD and Blu-Ray playback system and possibly learn from my mistake. As you said, don't use Cinemar unless you like to do a lot of tinkering.

So Ruben, did you get it all back together and working to your satisfaction yet?

I think your comments are a bit extreme. I have been using cinemar for almost 2 years. It is not for people that don't like to tinker, but it is great for people that want complete control. If you are just looking for IR control with a movie library, there are lots of solutions that are easier.

My Cinemar implementation (I did this myself) controls lighting, A/V, Pool, HVAC, monitors energy usage, whole house sound and irrigation. They have lots of plugins. The biggest issue was lighting because Insteon is so buggy, but some of us adopted the ISY and now all is well.

My screens are here https://bigd.homeserver.com/cinemar/defaultnew.html and were built with their graphics libraries.

For a list of components I control without any issue.

Russound CAV
Russound ST2
Russound SMS3 (currently replacing SMS3 with Itunes plugin)
Onkyo receivers (2) via Serial (1 via GC100 downstairs)
1 pioneer receiver in son's gameroom via IR
2 Tivos via IR
1 Bluray via IR
1 XBOX360 via IR
1 AVATRIX-562 via serial that routes all the above sources to 6 different room
1 oppo DVD downstiars using a GC100 to route IR over an IP network
1 Sony projector, 2 Toshiba TVs and 1 Samsung TV.

Home DVDs are on a Windows Home server that runs Cinemar Server and serves 3 touchpanels.

1 DAvis Weatherstation for real-time data including sensors in A/V closet
1 compool pool controller (had to write my own plugin)
75 Insteon devices using ISY to control insteon and webservice to integrate to cinemar

TED Energy mangement monitor to monitor energy usage
Prophilix IP thermostats which are monitored along with wiring closet temps to control exhaust fans and A/C

Again, as Sandman says, it is best to use someone that configures cinemar professionally if you aren't a tinkerer.

If you want full control for less than the cost of a projector then it is a viable and workable option. My system has not been down in over a year unless I updated something and had to restart the sytem.


Could you provide some information on this?
Russound SMS3 (currently replacing SMS3 with Itunes plugin)

I must say I am very impressed, I have been sitting in the shaddows reading this thread for the past week and it is very inspiring! I am currently renovating an older house that i bought from the frame up. This thread has given me several ideas for the whole house but particularly what will be my HT/Living room. It has also been really cool to watch the start of what i hope will become a very successful business! one quick question for anyone that will answer, is there an ideal width for a light tray? And do some ropelights have a more even coverage than others?

Hi Ruben. No questions from me I'm afraid, but just wanted to say what a fantastic experience you've created there - the attention to detail is simply astounding, and it's also both a great incentive and extremely informative for anyone wanting to replicate it.

From a simple UK homee

All the best
Jon http://www.avforums.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Those columns are awesome, along with everything else of course!

Hi Ruben! I got an SMX screen from you last Summer, a 130" wide 2.40 AT. I just bought a new house, and will start again on a theater, and came across your thread. You have a great theater, and looks very close to what I have in mind for a new theater. Your thread will be invaluable to my new project. Thanks again, lovin the screen.

Hi Ruben!

Still as awesome a theater as ever!

I have a quick question: I know you had had some trouble with your Crown amplifiers a while back, so I was wondering if you kept them and if they've held up since sending them back to Crown for repairs, or if you've updated amps since then?

The Face amps look good, but are "a bit" more pricey. Looking at Klipsch THX Ultra2 system.

Have you ever looked into Emotiva amps?

Sounds like your screen business is going like gang busters. I always like to see some healthy competition in the start up sector to give those big boys a run for their money! :D

Hi Ruben!

Still as awesome a theater as ever!

I have a quick question: I know you had had some trouble with your Crown amplifiers a while back, so I was wondering if you kept them and if they've held up since sending them back to Crown for repairs, or if you've updated amps since then?


Hi Ruben and Dan,

First of all, a VERY awesome theater :eek::cool:.

I'm also very interested in the answer of this question. I've really been inspired by your setup Ruben and bought the Klipsch Ultra's as well. It will be in my living room so I choose 3 KL-650's as L-C-R, 2 KS-525's for L-R surround and 1 KW-120 (will be 2 because Danley was no option, they don't have it here in The Netherlands :().

The amps shall also be the Crown XTI's. Currently I'm running the set with a Marantz with no XLR outputs so the sub isn't playing yet. The Onkyo SC886 will be here in a couple of weeks for the processing so then I can finally hook it up :cool:.

There allready is 1 XTI 1000 for the Klipsch sub and will be replaced with a XTI 4000 when the second sub will arrive. That's why I'm very interested to read your answer if you have the time ;). If you have any sugestions from your experience I would be very glad to hear them.

BR, Dave

Hi Ruben!

Still as awesome a theater as ever!

I have a quick question: I know you had had some trouble with your Crown amplifiers a while back, so I was wondering if you kept them and if they've held up since sending them back to Crown for repairs, or if you've updated amps since then?

The Face amps look good, but are "a bit" more pricey. Looking at Klipsch THX Ultra2 system.

Have you ever looked into Emotiva amps?

Sounds like your screen business is going like gang busters. I always like to see some healthy competition in the start up sector to give those big boys a run for their money! :D

I had to send the Crowns back 3 times and the third time they gave me all new amps. The new amps have been working ever since. Besides the faulty amps, Crown has been great to work with. The paid for all the shipping and next day everything.

I never looked at Emotiva amps.

Thank you!
Ruben

I had to send the Crowns back 3 times and the third time they gave me all new amps. The new amps have been working ever since. Besides the faulty amps, Crown has been great to work with. The paid for all the shipping and next day everything.

I never looked at Emotiva amps.

Thank you!
Ruben

Thanks for your answer.

I had to send the Crowns back 3 times and the third time they gave me all new amps. The new amps have been working ever since. Besides the faulty amps, Crown has been great to work with. The paid for all the shipping and next day everything.

I never looked at Emotiva amps.

Thank you!
Ruben

Hi Ruben!

Thanks for the response... since they work now (same model, or a different upgraded model??), would you still recommend the Crowns with the Klipsch system if you had to do it all over again?

Thank you again!

Hi All, Newbie to this Forum, Would anybody know where I can find a good place online or in the Sacramento area would be great. A place that carry’s USB faceplates along with VGA or HDMI ports. Building a kitchen counter with a mini ITX Desktop computer setup. Computer will be stored in a closet next to the kitchen, but with the monitor attached to a folding monitor arm under the counter cabinet. I found DataPro.com through Google, but never shopped with them before. Are they ok to buy from.

Thanks
Mark
Sacramento, CA.

I don't know about the USB faceplates.. I suppose you could try Datapro.

I'd use Monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10425) for the HDMI/VGA plates (and networking for that matter). They're especially cheap the more you buy from them.

Update:

I picked up a new super wide lens that doesn't distort the image to snap some new pictures of the theater. Here are some pictures with the new 140" wide 2.40 SmX ProMask-Curv masking screen installed.

I'm still trying to work on the lighting behind the screen. I need spot lights and hoods on the speaker lights so the light doesn't flood the screen surface so much. This will help me get a better picture of the behind screen lighting.

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Left-Back-Reef.jpg

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Left-Front.jpg

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Right-Back-Speakers.jpg

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Screen-Close-Up.jpg

To give you an idea of how wide this lens is, here are a few shots I shot the other night down in Miami.

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Skyline.jpg

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Bridge.jpg

Now this is wide!

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/Wide.jpg

Ruben

Jaw drops to the floor :eek:. Breathtaking.

That ceiling looks awsome with that new camera.

So what's the lense?

Those are some stunning snapshots!

Wow, that new screen looks amazing... Beautiful. Those pics of the city aren't bad either.

Awesome, simply AWESOME !

Please send some more of this eye candy, from the HT or the new camera lens - it's all good

Time to set up an iStockphoto account and make some residual cash. :-)

WOW, just WOW!!! Just when I thought your theater could't get any better!! Can anyone see the 3D depth of the Fish screenshots, it almost feels like the fish is gonna come out of the screen. What's the curve ratio of your screen? or better yet what is the center dip of the screen (4", 5", 6") ?

Oh, that's his screen? I thought he turned his theater into a viewing room for his saltwater reef tank.

Oh, that's his screen? I thought he turned his theater into a viewing room for his saltwater reef tank.

It almost looks like a real big reef tank, lol. If someone where to say this is a 13 foot wide salt reef tank, I would have believe them, except that clown fish would have been too big in real life, lol

Thanks for all the cool comments.

The camera is a Canon 40D

http://www.neutralday.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/canon40dtop.jpg

http://www.e-fotografija.si/articlefiles/1142-P1012416.jpg


Lens is a Canon EFS10-22mm

http://www.hugolim.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/canon1022.jpg

Ruben

Nice shots Ruben. Room still looks fantastic. Did you have to stitch the pano shot or it just one image that you cropped?

Oh, that's his screen? I thought he turned his theater into a viewing room for his saltwater reef tank.

Did we ever get pics of the reef tank he was going to build?

Ruben, it looks like your using an HDR technique for those shots. What program are you using? CS3, CS4, PhotoMatix, etc? Just curios as I have done a lot of HDR stuff also.

BTW, awesome shots with lots of detail. Love the panorama's also.

Ronnie

Did we ever get pics of the reef tank he was going to build?
I seem to remember a link to a reef forum that had it.. or maybe that was MarkP's?

Looks awesome.

The camera and lens take some awesome pictures...they better considering their price tag.

remind me again, this is in a Garage right....?:eek:

Ruben, it looks like your using an HDR technique for those shots. What program are you using? CS3, CS4, PhotoMatix, etc? Just curios as I have done a lot of HDR stuff also.

BTW, awesome shots with lots of detail. Love the panorama's also.

Ronnie

Hi Ronnie,

No HDR, those are straight raw out the camera. There is no PS coloring or contrasting either. Screen shot was captured with lights off with camera on a tripod then composited over the theater shot with the lights on with tripod in same position. That camera and lens combo is quite nice. I previously was using the Rebel XTi and This camera is night and day in comparison. The 40D is very comparable to Canons full frame cameras in many cases people favor the 40D over the full frame 5D.

The lighting took a bit of tweaking to get a decent balance. I am still not happy with some of the upper columns getting blown out or the corner of the rear right chair but I wanted to keep the lighting theme of the theater true to what it actually is.

I included the shot info below of the first picture I posted (since I know you like that stuff) ;->.

File Name IMG_1246.JPG
Camera Model Canon EOS 40D
Firmware Firmware Version 1.1.1
Shooting Date/Time 03/01/09 18:54:51
Owner's Name
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Tv( Shutter Speed ) 25
Av( Aperture Value ) 3.5
Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 100
Lens EF-S10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Focal Length 10.0 mm
Image Size 3888x2592
Image Quality Fine
Flash Off
White Balance Mode Auto
AF Mode One-Shot AF
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Sharpness 3
Contrast 0
Saturation 0
Color tone 0
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Highlight tone priority 0:Disable
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Date/Time(UTC)
Latitude
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Altitude
Geographic coordinate system

Ruben

Nice shots Ruben. Room still looks fantastic. Did you have to stitch the pano shot or it just one image that you cropped?

Thanks! That was one wide shot cropped. That was the first night I got the lens so I really haven't had much experience with it and the camera. I now know the prime settings for it so I will be heading back downtown this weekend to shoot another round. If you are familiar with Miami, that shot was composed from the I-395 bridge.

Here is the un-cropped version. The quality is not as clear as it should be due to web compression.

http://www.smxscreen.com/images/IMG_1190.jpg

Ruben

Did we ever get pics of the reef tank he was going to build?

No reef tank as of yet. I kind of lost interest after visiting the local shops out here and seeing the inventory on several occasions. I would of thought South Florida would of had the best selection to choose from.

Ruben

if you were as hot as patrick antonius you might be the ultimate human being and i'd be forced to stalk you. and i'm not even gay.

sometimes i pretend you never read my references to you in the early stages of my thread, but i know in reality you probably did and just think i'm a ******.

pwned :(

you da man sandman

Ruben, what is the projector that you are using to light up that massive screen?

Thanks.

Ruben, what is the projector that you are using to light up that massive screen?

Thanks.

It looks like a Sony (VW40, VW60, Pearl...etc). I am just wondering what type of AR lens are you using

Ruben

Are you still using the Isco II or did you upgrade to the III

The projector looks like an Infocus 777 3 chip DLP. they are 720p but throw an amazing image and have more than enough light for that screen.

The projector looks like an Infocus 777 3 chip DLP. they are 720p but throw an amazing image and have more than enough light for that screen.

We have a winner (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12481121#post12481121)...

Yes, the projector in the shots is the 777 which I measured last week at about 22 FTL at the screen with 150 hours on the new bulb.

I also have a Sim2 C3X Lumis I will be installing in the next 2 weeks once I get some free time. I was waiting on a mount for it as well.

Lens is still the ISCO II which works fine. The ISCO III is probably about 10% better and will have less distortion which doesn't matter to me because I am using a curved screen to reverse distortion.

Ruben

Yes, the projector in the shots is the 777 which I measured last week at about 22 FTL at the screen with 150 hours on the new bulb.

I also have a Sim2 C3X Lumis I will be installing in the next 2 weeks once I get some free time. I was waiting on a mount for it as well.

Lens is still the ISCO II which works fine. The ISCO III is probably about 10% better and will have less distortion which doesn't matter to me because I am using a curved screen to reverse distortion.

Rubencan i use a curve screen with a AE3000 without a lense temporary?

Well I have to ask..."if you dont mind"...What do you think the final cost is for this wonderful theater??

Well I have to ask..."if you dont mind"...What do you think the final cost is for this wonderful theater??

Its in here, post #1499, here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7196536#post7196536

Awesome , still cannot believe that was a garage :eek: , amazing work Ruben :D !

- Jason

Once again Ruben,fantastic theater !!! That lens is very cool, zooms down to 10mm ? !

Art

Hey sandman, Im up in boynton and besides the HOA did you need any permits before you started? I figure since we are both in palm beach county you would have some insight. I am going to have an inspector out for the electrical, but just wondering if I needed to pull permits. The project is exactly the same situation as yours, room within the garage.
Thanks in adavance
J

Its in here, post #1499, here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7196536#post7196536

Wow, I thought for sure he would have spent atleast twice that:eek:

For my next theater I want to hire Dennis to design my room and Ruben to do the build out and install:D

That Sim2 C3X Lumis Host sounds amazing. Now I've got projector envy. Wonder if you'll have to wear sunglasses in there now;)

I have never scene this thread before. I spend most of my time on the audio section. I am redoing my theater and started looking over here. I have to say this is one of the best looking theaters I have ever scene. It is beautiful. You have given me some great ideas. I will combine some things from your room and Arts room. Again, awesome work. Are you using the Klipsch THX ultra 2 speakers? That is what I see behind the screen on the first page. I can see my equipment in that room. Just imagine the Klipsch on steroids.

Wow, I thought for sure he would have spent atleast twice that:eek:

For my next theater I want to hire Dennis to design my room and Ruben to do the build out and install:D

That Sim2 C3X Lumis Host sounds amazing. Now I've got projector envy. Wonder if you'll have to wear sunglasses in there now;)

I think that the "Renders of Room" refers to 3d modeling renders. The stuff that Reaper doses. look at this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6195573#post6195573)

Not full blown Home theater design, engineering and drawings.

i am glad to see someone installing a 777. i bought one when i built my theater and i have taken so long to finish it that i was starting to think that it was an antique by today's standards. i still think it throws a great image and i love all the lumens. besides i like the way it looks on the ceiling so much that i hate to think about someday replacing it with a pj that is 1/3 it's size and throws a better image. :)

http://battas.zftp.com/dropbox/avs/booth2sm.jpg

the new screenwall looks really great ruben!

greg

Ruben,

What type of attachment did you end up using to attached the star ceiling panels the the ceiling? z-clips? Thanks.

No reef tank as of yet. I kind of lost interest after visiting the local shops out here and seeing the inventory on several occasions. I would of thought South Florida would of had the best selection to choose from.

Ruben

There is always some shop in the area that will order exactly what you want, and hold in quarantine for a few weeks for you taking away the risk of internet livestock purchase. The store is willing to do it because they get to display an unusual creature that could generate more sales at little risk to themselves, since you have already paid for it. You get a guaranteed healthy creature of the exact species you want. Plus, there are reef clubs in your area you may want to check out.

Awesome screen shots and work on your theater by the way!

Your theater is a work of art my friend.

Wow I'm really at the end of this thread. It was great!!!! Nice job Ruben.

can i use a curve screen with a AE3000 without a lense temporary?

Yes, many people do it. You will get a bit of a barrel distortion but it is nothing you will See during normal movie watching.

Awesome , still cannot believe that was a garage :eek: , amazing work Ruben :D !

- Jason

Thank you!

Once again Ruben,fantastic theater !!! That lens is very cool, zooms down to 10mm ? !

Art

Thanks Art. Your theater was the inspiration for mine. I use to always reference your build threads for ideas. The Lens goes down to 10mm. However I just picked up the new Canon 5D MKII and that lens doesn't work on that camera. So now I need to find another lens for the new camera.

Hey sandman, Im up in boynton and besides the HOA did you need any permits before you started? I figure since we are both in palm beach county you would have some insight. I am going to have an inspector out for the electrical, but just wondering if I needed to pull permits. The project is exactly the same situation as yours, room within the garage.
Thanks in adavance
J

The city wants their money. You will need to pull permits if you plan on doing it the right way.

I have never scene this thread before. I spend most of my time on the audio section. I am redoing my theater and started looking over here. I have to say this is one of the best looking theaters I have ever scene. It is beautiful. You have given me some great ideas. I will combine some things from your room and Arts room. Again, awesome work. Are you using the Klipsch THX ultra 2 speakers? That is what I see behind the screen on the first page. I can see my equipment in that room. Just imagine the Klipsch on steroids.

Thanks MK. Yes I am using the Klipsch THX Ultra II's and a Danley DTS-20 sub.

i am glad to see someone installing a 777. i bought one when i built my theater and i have taken so long to finish it that i was starting to think that it was an antique by today's standards. i still think it throws a great image and i love all the lumens. besides i like the way it looks on the ceiling so much that i hate to think about someday replacing it with a pj that is 1/3 it's size and throws a better image. :)

the new screenwall looks really great ruben!

greg

Thanks Greg. I still enjoy the 777. I just don't like the screen door it has at the first row viewing distance. Since I sit in the back, I don't see much screen door except occasionally in real bright scenes.

Ruben,

What type of attachment did you end up using to attached the star ceiling panels the the ceiling? z-clips? Thanks.

Furring strips and brad nails and I think some industrial velcro stapled to the panels and furring strips.

There is always some shop in the area that will order exactly what you want, and hold in quarantine for a few weeks for you taking away the risk of internet livestock purchase. The store is willing to do it because they get to display an unusual creature that could generate more sales at little risk to themselves, since you have already paid for it. You get a guaranteed healthy creature of the exact species you want. Plus, there are reef clubs in your area you may want to check out.

Awesome screen shots and work on your theater by the way!

Thanks. I went looking at reef two weeks ago without finding anything interesting. I may have to join those reef clubs.

Your theater is a work of art my friend.

Thank you my friend.

Wow I'm really at the end of this thread. It was great!!!! Nice job Ruben.

Thank you.

I think I may be installing this masking screen next ;)

ProMask-Quad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P06Y6wVkpXw)

Ruben

I noticed you are using the Crown XTI's. I'm curious about your settings in the Crown's (if you changed anything offcourse ;)).

That ProMask-Quad and a full D-BOX setup are unfortunately things I can only dream of having one day. Maybe in my next home theatre. I am super jealous man. :p I nearly creamed my pants looking at that YouTube vid. (Can I say that here?)

Hey SandmanX, thanks for the inspiration by the way. My results probably will not come close to your accomplishment, but I’m trying to emulate your efforts where feasible. ;)

That ProMask-Quad and a full D-BOX setup are unfortunately things I can only dream of having one day. Maybe in my next home theatre. I am super jealous man. :p I nearly creamed my pants looking at that YouTube vid. (Can I say that here?)

Hey SandmanX, thanks for the inspiration by the way. My results probably will not come close to your accomplishment, but I’m trying to emulate your efforts where feasible. ;)

More like plagiarise. :D

I think it needs a year or so of testing, please forward me one and I will get started

I think it needs a year or so of testing, please forward me one and I will get started

Mark, don't you need to finish the theater first?

Ruben-
I followed your thread thru the 'early days." I bought my AT screen material from you (of course). It is/was the single best decision I made doing my theater. Thanks for your amazing contribution to this hobby!

Outstanding job. A real credit to you.

Best theater ever.

Ruben, first off, awesome room! I'm sure you enjoy it tremendously!

Question: I notice a few months back you said you were using the Klipsch U2's with a Danley, but your profile is showing Martin Logans. Did you change recently? or is the profile out of date?

I was researching your thread for any comments you made regarding the U2's, as I have just purchased the KL650's for my front three.

Also, would you comment on your sub choice. Did you first audition with the KW120's and then the Danley? what were your impressions of the two options?

Thanks,
tony

Hey Tony, you should read the entire thread, it will only take .... 2 days!
The short story is that the Martin Logans were switched to the Klipsch mid way through the project as the ML were not the best choice for high energy HT use. Ruben was never satisfied with the KW120's impact so went with the Danley instead.

No go read the whole thread :D

Forgive me... :) I have to get SOME work done during the day too. Is there an audio version of this thread published? Maybe I can listen to it on my commute? :)

Thanks for the summary Moggie. I'll be interested to hear some specifics from Ruben on the KW120 and the Danley then.

You know what! On second thought, I'm going to make it a weekend project to get through this thread line by line. :)

Edit: Read to post #2700 in 3.5 hours.... Eyes bloodshot and 1:30 a.m. !!!!

Hey SandmanX,

Brilliant HT! I was wondering if you had any pictures of how you ended up mounting your projector? Did you end up putting it in the hush box like you had planned?

I'm trying to work out what to do with my projector at the moment. I'm not sure if I should try to hide it in the soffit, a hush box or just attach it to the roof.

Cheers,
Simon

Ruben, no need to comment further on the Klipsch's. I'm catching all the discussions you've already had. And I've had mine long enough now to know that I don't need a second opinion! They are awesome and don't think mine will ever be replaced!

I am new to forum. Thanks for all this info.

Ruben, thanks for inspiring so many of us to 'take it to the next level' in our builds. In my case the thanks is double, as I felt your design was worth duplicating. The old saying about imitation/flattery certainly applies in my case.

Cheers,
Jason

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/jlachanc/HT/Final_Back-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/jlachanc/HT/Final_Front-1.jpg

Does anyone know if SandmanX's more detailed blog of pictures is currently up anywhere? The last posting regarding it in this thread seems to have been that it was in the forum at smxscreen.com, but there doesn't appear to be a forum there.

congrats on the EH writeup!

Hey!

I don't know if you still check this thread, SandmanX, but I've been a lurker here for a while and finally signed up....

I'm doing a High Quality 3D render of your Home Theatre and I would love it if I could get in contact with you and ask some questions to you directly.

Mainly things like exact dimensions, high quality photos of your carpet, walls, and chairs for texture mapping, and other things of that nature.

If you could get in contact with me or point me to a place where we can chat, I would be eternally grateful! I went ahead and send you a message through this forum but I wasn't sure if you check it anymore.

PM me when you receive this! Thanks!

You should try to reach him through his business.

Hey!

I don't know if you still check this thread, SandmanX, but I've been a lurker here for a while and finally signed up....

I'm doing a High Quality 3D render of your Home Theatre and I would love it if I could get in contact with you and ask some questions to you directly.

Mainly things like exact dimensions, high quality photos of your carpet, walls, and chairs for texture mapping, and other things of that nature.

If you could get in contact with me or point me to a place where we can chat, I would be eternally grateful! I went ahead and send you a message through this forum but I wasn't sure if you check it anymore.

PM me when you receive this! Thanks!

Didn't Chirpie alread do renders of this from during the build process?

Maybe you should render BigmouthinDC's instead ;).

Didn't Chirpie alread do renders of this from during the build process?

Maybe you should render BigmouthinDC's instead ;).

Yes, and but only if he puts in the planned 2.35 HT2.0 screen

Awesome theater. Do you have any cose-up picks of the carpet? It looks like a pattern I have seen in another thread, but I can't tell for sure.
Thanks

It is the Masland Quadrate, it comes in various colors. I have gray his is black. Sandman had a guy dye all the little stripes red by hand. (you can't make this $hit up)

http://www.maslandcarpets.com/bldetail.asp?id=70

It is the Masland Quadrate, it comes in various colors. I have gray his is black. Sandman had a guy dye all the little stripes red by hand. (you can't make this $hit up)

http://www.maslandcarpets.com/bldetail.asp?id=70

To quote the great thespian Keanu reeves- whoa

BigmouthinDC- thanks for the link. Now that I've seen it closer, thats not the one I thought it was, but a nice option nonetheless. I've browsed about a hundred threads looking for the pattern I saw earlier this week to no avail. Guess i'll have to keep looking since I was too dumb to bookmark the thread when I saw it.

Guess i'll have to keep looking since I was too dumb to bookmark the thread when I saw it.

You might be lucky and it is in the "Show me your carpet thread"

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1000076&highlight=show+me+your+carpet

You might be lucky and it is in the "Show me your carpet thread"

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1000076&highlight=show+me+your+carpet

Thanks for your help- I think I found it:

http://www.couristan.com/cms.aspx?Guid=402AE8F5-72E6-4B8A-9A59-FD446AF08719&Id=0f3e6b09-ad1f-41d0-ab81-3b2522b63264

Yeah, it is a little too late to change which theatre I'm going to render. I tried calling the company but I'm not sure they know what's going on concidering I don't even know what Sandman's real name is. Does anybody know of a way I can contact him directly? Maybe an email or a first name?

Thanks!

Yeah, it is a little too late to change which theatre I'm going to render. I tried calling the company but I'm not sure they know what's going on concidering I don't even know what Sandman's real name is. Does anybody know of a way I can contact him directly? Maybe an email or a first name?

Thanks!

He's not hard to find... are you for real? Just look for SMX and be sure you clear your render through him (Ruben).

Ruben Dallas isn't it? Or maybe Paul Rubens.

Just ask for Ruben, but good luck. To the best of my knowledge, he owns and runs the company, so they should know who you are talking about.

No...His name is Ruben Ortiz. Find his number on http://www.smxscreen.com/contact-us.html


Ruben Dallas isn't it? Or maybe Paul Rubens.

Just ask for Ruben, but good luck. To the best of my knowledge, he owns and runs the company, so they should know who you are talking about.

Those were both movie references [5th element, pee-wee herman], I'll try and limit my humor in the future.

Those were both movie references [5th element, pee-wee herman], I'll try and limit my humor in the future.

Yes, I figured that much. Humor is always welcome. I was just trying to help the noob :D

Ruben

I see you put a lot of the pics back up.
Thank you

This is one of the best looking room I've seen so far on this forum.

Great Job Ruben!!

#3598 posts read in about a week, now I finally get to post in it! I think I have to give the now cliched "Amazing job!", etc etc..:)

Here is David Bott co-owner of the AVSForum with Ruben. The video titled AVSForum presents to Ruben Ortiz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lb9ZUdtZCs) is here for everyone that needs to know... It is a video from CEDIA a months back.

Like BPape Said, the Ceiling is treated to take care of the reflection points. The Ceiling and Light Trays are now finished and look awesome! The Light Trays/Soffits just need to be Paper Faced and Covered with the GoM now.

Pictures coming soon.

Hi Ruben,
How did you combine the acoustic treatment of ceiling reflection points with your star light ceiling - I copying your star light idea :D

BPape advised me at some point to bass trap treat the ceiling area right above the primary row - how would I combine that with the starlights?
And how about 1st reflection points? Drill holes or cut squares in the masonite at starless areas, with OC703 behind?

My AT SMX 2.4:1 screen bought last year is still sitting in its box, progress in the HT 2.0 construction is slow :eek:

Cheers,
Jacob
Denmark

Sound would just reflect off of the masonite. You would need to use just the OC703, and wrap that and drill through for the fibers. I have not gotten that far yet, so have never played with OC703 to know if it is stiff enough to accomplish this task.

Hi Ruben,
How did you combine the acoustic treatment of ceiling reflection points with your star light ceiling - I copying your star light idea :D

BPape advised me at some point to bass trap treat the ceiling area right above the primary row - how would I combine that with the starlights?
And how about 1st reflection points? Drill holes or cut squares in the masonite at starless areas, with OC703 behind?

My AT SMX 2.4:1 screen bought last year is still sitting in its box, progress in the HT 2.0 construction is slow :eek:

Cheers,
Jacob
Denmark

Happy New Year to everyone.

Hello Jacob,

I built the same tray with the masonite board and furring strips but turned the tray around so the masonite was on the back. The fiberglass was then stapled/glued inside the panel to the masonite. I drilled the holes for the fiber optics through the masonite and fiberglass together before wrapping it with GoM.

Ruben

I am looking for the screen material that Ruben had decided upon but cannot anymore. Has the thread been modified since he started the SMX business?

In the beginning when Ruben started down the path of tinkering with screen materials he used a Phifer Sheerweave 4500 in caulk, that was fine for 720P, then he had the company do a special custom weave for 1080P and recently developed even another fabric.

Only the original fabric which he no longer uses can be sourced by the consumer. http://www.interiormall.com/cat/nsample.asp?ID=113044&t=2182

If you visit the screen forums both commercial and DIY there is a lot of discussion of alternative fabrics available.

So does anyone know what he finally used for his home screen?

Hey Man

I have spent the last 2 days reading through this build Congrats on an incredible project!! I am looking into using a tablet PC with touchscreen to control my HTPC What software will I need to control this? and What is the best way to rip DVDs and Blu Rays? I tried DVD Clone and no success. Thanks man.

Corey

So does anyone know what he finally used for his home screen?

An SMX screen.

An SMX screen.

As if that was a surprise! :D

An SMX screen.

Oh ho ho. You're a riot. :-P

Great job！
Very nice！
Thank you very much！

this is a great record and archive of the process and build-

looking back through it was great....

nice job OP

congrats

Oh ho ho. You're a riot. :-P

I realize that there is always someone out there with a mouth smarter than mine. But the question is a legitimate one. I am wondering about the difference between his original one that he initially installed vs. the ones he ordered specifically for his SMX business. I would like to know what I am investing in before I drop a couple of thousand for the SMX screen.

I would like to know that too as I have an unused roll of SMX1.0 from back when he was simply buying 30 ft rolls of Pfeifer 4500 and cutting it up for AVS brothers. I think I got a piece off the second roll. Little did we know that we were partially funding his start-up. Albeit a small portion. Since then he has been close to the vest with his "Proprietary" weave.

what would you assume is the total cost of the project?

what would you assume is the total cost of the project?

No need to assume.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7196536&highlight=budget#post7196536

No need to assume.


I did a quick review of that list and found some items missing:

new Projector
Screen (at cost I hope)
switched out the speakers for Klipsh
went with a Danly Sub.
HTPC and servers.

First rule of marital budget negotiation - never mention future upgrades.

First rule of marital budget negotiation - never mention future upgrades.

Oh yeah, you've got that right!

And imagine my surprise when I found out that the kitchen comes before the theater... :eek:

For those of you who don't visit the AVS screen forum often, I just wanted to let you know AVS has a few deeply discounted overstock SmX screens for sale. See the AVS post here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1247268

Regards,
Ruben

For those of you who don't visit the AVS screen forum often, I just wanted to let you know AVS has a few deeply discounted overstock SmX screens for sale. [/url]


Eagerly waiting for my shipment, no real rush as I've wanted an SMX Screen for years. This sale was too good to pass up. I am working on hanging my new projector and lens today.

Any plans of expanding your operations in ASIA sir Ruben?

Ruben, thanks for inspiring so many of us to 'take it to the next level' in our builds. In my case the thanks is double, as I felt your design was worth duplicating. The old saying about imitation/flattery certainly applies in my case.

Cheers,
Jason

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/jlachanc/HT/Final_Back-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn98/jlachanc/HT/Final_Front-1.jpg

What's your room dimensions and projection screen size sir?

Thank you.

Complete – Finally

After countless hours researching, ‘product hunting’ and constructing…(not to mention the many hours I spent at the second and third job I needed to fund this project:D:):D). I have completed my version of the World Famous SANDMAN THEATER….

I would just like to say thanks to Ruben for taking the time and being so helpful to me during the completion of my theater. If it wasn’t for him taking the time to post detailed pictures of his theater’s progress along with step-by-step instructions for many to follow I probably would have given up long ago.


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Thanks Again,
Mark
Minneapolis, MN


Same question I asked above sir, may I know your room dimension and projection screen size?

Thank you

For those of you who don't visit the AVS screen forum often, I just wanted to let you know AVS has a few deeply discounted overstock SmX screens for sale. See the AVS post here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1247268

Regards,
Ruben

I hope you'll have a dealer for ASIA soon :) he he

Marlon - you will need to PM those people since they aren't the thread's original poster. The odds that they will read your question are practically zero. Or better yet, go to that builders thread. He has it in his signature file.

Ruben, I have been looking over your thread for the last 3 days continuously. WOW, what an incredible job. My only question is how did you hang the starlite panels to the ceiling? I see how you wrapped them, put the starlite in, etc. But don't know after they were wrapped, hot glued the starlite, etc how you hung it to the ceiling. Did you screw through the fabric into the ceiling?

Thanks

I had posted something in this forum (about 4 or 5 years ago) and then after my computer crashed I never found my way back here. Now, today, I stumbled upon that old string posts... and see that I was asked a question that was never answered. So... let me do it now.

I mix my own paint that is both reflective (under a black light) and also Glow-In-The-Dark too. The glow, if the room is very dark, can last for up to 12 hours. I have a customer in California who uses the black light to see the night sky while the movie is playing... and then turns everything off to see the mural in total darkness after the movie. you get two different murals when you do it that way.

Jeff


So, Jeff, how does your system work? Is is reflective paint or glo-in-the-dark paint?

Search this thread for "fiber optic". There is a central light source running fiber optics to each point of light.

absolutely gorgeous, i'm jealous :)

Hi Ruben,

How did you manage to wrap the veneer around the front of the light tray radius area? it seems like you used two pieces but I tried doing that can't manage to do it without getting rincles. Did you use more that 2 pieces?

And yes. I did read your veneering page.

Thanks


And now for a completely unrelated question... :D For your light trays/soffit veneering, you said that you wrapped the veneer around the rounded edge for at least the two sides and back (which makes sense). However, what did you do for the front? Use two pieces? How do the corner edges match up as far as looks (compared with the side soffit corners)? I apologize if you mentioned this somewhere, but I couldn't find it..

Any body knows the answer to this? Please help.

Hi Ruben,

How did you manage to wrap the veneer around the front of the light tray radius area? it seems like you used two pieces but I tried doing that can't manage to do it without getting wrinkles. Did you use more that 2 pieces?

And yes. I did read your veneering page.

Thanks

Has to be cut. No way you could do that wrap around with the curve and still look good. Unless of course there was some sort of special veneer

Aaargh! A bunch of the pics went missing last night. Looks like the domain that was hosting them expired. Can this be fixed please???

Thanks!

Aaargh! A bunch of the pics went missing last night. Looks like the domain that was hosting them expired. Can this be fixed please???

Thanks!

x2

Well I have studied the sandmanx's pics of his radius curve front stage light trait and it only appears to seam at the center. almost indicating that only two large pieces were use. Half the radius being cover from one piece, wrap around from top to bottom. I tried replecating this with kraft paper but i get a couple wrinkles in the proccess. I heard of softning the veneer with special agent but I dont think the sandmanx went to that extreme. I have to tackle this project today and I think I can cut the whole bottom as one piece and the top bend as another and over lap them at the bottom curve and then cut and seam together but I would rather just find a way to wrap two pieces like sandmanx did cause otherwise the cut will have to be very straight and precise. Doing this on a curve keeping the same distance from the edge can be quite a challange.

If any body has any ideas please let them be heard now.

Thanks


Has to be cut. No way you could do that wrap around with the curve and still look good. Unless of course there was some sort of special veneer


Hi Ruben,

How did you manage to wrap the veneer around the front of the light tray radius area? it seems like you used two pieces but I tried doing that can't manage to do it without getting rincles. Did you use more that 2 pieces?

And yes. I did read your veneering page.

Thanks


And now for a completely unrelated question... For your light trays/soffit veneering, you said that you wrapped the veneer around the rounded edge for at least the two sides and back (which makes sense). However, what did you do for the front? Use two pieces? How do the corner edges match up as far as looks (compared with the side soffit corners)? I apologize if you mentioned this somewhere, but I couldn't find it..

Well it looks like the pics are gone. I haven't seen a response from Sandman and still no pics. Did anyone cache them? This thread was a wealth of knowledge for the AVS community but without reference pictures it's not much help... I could host the pics if someone has them....

Well it looks like the pics are gone. I haven't seen a response from Sandman and still no pics. Did anyone cache them? This thread was a wealth of knowledge for the AVS community but without reference pictures it's not much help... I could host the pics if someone has them....

Ruben is probably busy getting ready for cedia, hence the silence on this thread.

Man, I was only on page 8 of the thread when the pics disappeared! Now I'm kicking myself for not reading faster.

Ruben: Thanks very much for taking care of the images problem. It's greatly appreciated!!
:D
David

Anyone know if it is possible to save the whole thread to your computer? I see you can save it as a notebook without the pics, but I was hoping to save it without individually saving each picture.

Yes...under thread tools you can choose Download this thread.
Anyone know if it is possible to save the whole thread to your computer? I see you can save it as a notebook without the pics, but I was hoping to save it without individually saving each picture.

Yes...under thread tools you can choose Download this thread.

But the thread tools are usually hidden by the advertising that appears in that corner! Most annoying!

BTW auburnu008 is looking for the thread complete with pictures, the process you suggest only pulls down the text...

But the thread tools are usually hidden by the advertising that appears in that corner! Most annoying!


Not for subscribers

Yea, thread tools only saves text and not pictures. I just set me preferences to show 60 posts per page and used the "file save page as" in firefox and saved each page individually.

3600 pages, 60 posts per page, thats still 60 saved pages...I havent looked, but is 60 the max posts per page I take it?

Ruben ...how did you install your rope lights and what type of lights did you used?

I wrote the screen scaping tool in 5 minutes, so I doubt it is perfect but should be mostly there.

http://brumbelow.net/avs/sandman.pdf

I am going to delete it in a couple of days so it doesn't kill my bandwidth...

I wrote the screen scaping tool in 5 minutes, so I doubt it is perfect but should be mostly there.

http://brumbelow.net/avs/sandman.pdf

I am going to delete it in a couple of days so it doesn't kill my bandwidth...

Thanks, that is a much better method to view/save this thread!

I wrote the screen scaping tool in 5 minutes, so I doubt it is perfect but should be mostly there.

http://brumbelow.net/avs/sandman.pdf

I am going to delete it in a couple of days so it doesn't kill my bandwidth...

You sir, are the man!

Awesome build Ruben! I am a little slow to the party, but your theater is stunning!

Does anyone know if SandmanX's more detailed blog of pictures is currently up anywhere? The last posting regarding it in this thread seems to have been that it was in the forum at smxscreen.com, but there doesn't appear to be a forum there.

Any update on this question?

I was registered over at http://www.smxscreen.com/forum, a year and a half ago and found Sandman's detailed write-ups absolutely invaluable. Anyone have an archived version, or does it reside somewhere else now?

I tried to look at the web archive version from 2008 but couldn't find any of the good writeups: http://web.archive.org/web/20080510132631/http://www.smxscreen.com/forum/. You can see some good threads but none of Sandman's detailed write-ups.

Any info you guys could provide would be really helpful...

By the way, I know it doesn't have to be said but Sandman: you have the greatest HT I have ever seen. Big congrats!!!:D

Lots of the write ups and details were removed, including from these forums after he founded his new SMX company! No wonder, no?!

I wrote the screen scaping tool in 5 minutes, so I doubt it is perfect but should be mostly there.

http://brumbelow.net/avs/sandman.pdf

I am going to delete it in a couple of days so it doesn't kill my bandwidth...

Perhaps someone has an older saved version of the thread prior SandmanX removed all the details?

Those forums had all the same details that are in this thread except they were organized by category. If you have any questions, you can search this thread by using the "search within thread function" or ask me and I can answer.

Best,
Ruben

Oldie, but goodie.

How did you convert this to PDF? Can you explain the steps?

Perhaps someone has an older saved version of the thread prior SandmanX removed all the details?

How did you convert this to PDF? Can you explain the steps?

How did you convert this to PDF? Can you explain the steps?

Are you looking for the process(?) because the link above with the thread already converted to PDF worked for me...

Yes, the thread is still alive, just right click and save it to your computer. Be aware that it is 1227 pages long as a PDF.

Amazing. apparently I'm 5 years late for the prom...
at 26 years old, my wife and I are in our first home and building a theater. this thread has provided a ton of ideas, sources, direction and inspiration. Thank you for your detailed instruction and taking the time to share your passion with every one.

SMX it's amazing how even 5 years later your HT is still evolutionalry! pretty cool. Our budget is going to be miniscule, but I think we can create a decent theater experience, and we are excited to get started!

and we are in the market for a AT screen ;) I think I have something in mind :D

Amazing thread and build!

Would you have the final built dimensions you could post or PM me? We are trying to decide whether we can fit a 3 front 4 rear into our room and layout the risers and rear riser to screen/ front riser spacing like yours. We like the curve etc but I couldn't find the full dimensions to compare with our room.

Thank you for sharing

Amazing thread and build!

Would you have the final built dimensions you could post or PM me? We are trying to decide whether we can fit a 3 front 4 rear into our room and layout the risers and rear riser to screen/ front riser spacing like yours. We like the curve etc but I couldn't find the full dimensions to compare with our room.

Thank you for sharing

Per the first post


The finished inside room dimensions will be 20' x 16' x 8.5" ceiling

He's got a layout diagramed there too. (I'm sure he meant 8.5'.)

What was the final prize tag on this amazing HT, this thing is mind blowing.

if you search this MASSIVE thread with the search term of "Total Cost" the question is asked and answered with a link to the exact thread where he posted the cost breakdown.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7196536#post7196536

Per the first post



He's got a layout diagramed there too. (I'm sure he meant 8.5'.)



Looking for more detail on the as built stage and risers..... Radius points, stair widths etc

Just finished going through this thread from the beginning...the process of reading through this practically deserves a thread of its own. I was simply amazed that Ruben's quest to find the perfect screen led to a whole new company. Incredible. Makes me wish I had some DIY talent..alas.

Hi Ruben. Long-time lurker and first time poster to this thread. First - like everyone else - big thumbs up for the room design and execution. You certainly solved a lot of challenging problems in your fight to get exactly what you wanted. Congrats.

Second, have you had the chance to run any 3D in this room on your AT screen? If so what is your impression of 3D performance with this woven screen? Thanks for your input.

Great build. Ive been speaking with Bryan about the acoustics in my room and he mentioned yours.

I have a question, do you find there is enough light in the room? When I spoke with Ted from the Sound Proofing Company he strongly advised high hat lights above the seating area so you can see the remotes, what you are working on, etc, if you need too. He said he regrets in his theater not adding lights on the ceiling. You've had yours for a few years, do you have enough light?

Ruben's last post to his build thread was over a year ago, so don't hold your breath for a quick turnaround.

Skins you may want to reach out to Damelon (Bacon Race Theater) about lighting as we built a room with similar lighting to Ruben's at his place. His lighting is 15 of those small 3 inch recessed lights around the perimeter soffit. No down lighting.

Answer Part 2

My ceiling is riddled with recessed lights because I was young and foolish back then. The problem with thinking you are going to need a light for your remote is that when you are in the middle of a movie the lights will be turned off. Just invest in a good back lit remote, or think about the Ipad/Iphone remote options.

Skins you may want to reach out to Damelon (Bacon Race Theater) about lighting as we built a room with similar lighting to Ruben's at his place. His lighting is 15 of those small 3 inch recessed lights around the perimeter soffit. No down lighting.

Answer Part 2

My ceiling is riddled with recessed lights because I was young and foolish back then. The problem with thinking you are going to need a light for your remote is that when you are in the middle of a movie the lights will be turned off. Just invest in a good back lit remote, or think about the Ipad/Iphone remote options.

My remote is definitely going to be an iPad...so now that I think about it that part isn't an issue at all. It somethings that Ted from Sound Proof Company warned me about when we were speaking. Though I am notorious for not being able to just sit and relax, I have to multitask. I don't sit and watch movies I sit with a movie on and my laptop open and doing whatever. If its a laptop you don't really need extra light but if Im doing anything that involves needing to look at paper then the light would be nice.

Im going to have a Crestron Prodigy control system so its more if I want to have a mode that has some lighting on while watching tv/movie. Ill have to spend some time in the automation forum to see how people setup their zones.

Ill look up the build you reference and see what his thoughts were on the lighting.

Thanks!