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nate358 09-13-05, 10:36 PM It seems to me that these two components fit together well. I don't know if this thread should be on this forum or the DVD forum, but it seems so many people have these two... I wanted to know what their settings are for both components and what firmware they are using on both as well.
nate358 09-13-05, 10:44 PM I'm looking for posts like this made by AndrewS99
I picked up my 4805 as an X1 upgrade from woot.com several weeks ago. I also just ordered an Oppo DV971H.
In the past month, I have combed through both the 4805 and Oppo threads here to glean the advice of those who have blazed the trail to get a 4805 set up correctly with a DVI source - specifically the Oppo.
For all those that wanted a concise tome of info for settings for these two awesome devices, here is what I collected from the two above mentioned MONSTER threads. Please fill in any gaps that I might have missed or errors that I have made if you feel so inclined....
Interesting Info...
1) 4805 is not prone to Macroblocking with Faroudja chipset
2) RGB Gains = Contrast
3) RGB Offset = Brightness
4) RGB settings above work with equal "bit depth" (10 bits) to the brightness/contrast controls
On Oppo
1) Set Brightness to +5
2) Set Sharpness to Off (Eliminates "shimmering"
3) Set TrueLife On (Motion adaptive deinterlacing - what Faroudja is known for)
4) Set CCS Off (May reduce flicker between bright colors)
5) Keep Contrast at 0
On 4805
1) Set RGB Gains = 58
2) Set RGB Offsets = 28 bordering on 29
3) Set White Peaking to 0
4) Set Gamma to Film
5) Check a 480i source (Oppo component) and make sure Sharpness is set for Softest (per krasmuzik) - Softest may reduce ringing. This will affect DVI even though you can't reset sharpness once DVI is hooked up. This becomes a problem if Sharpness was increased past Standard since it will introduce artifacts on the DVI connection. It is currently unclear if the 1.13 firmware has fixed this issue.
6) Make sure Brightness and Contrast are always set to 50 - use RGB Gain/Offset to adjust brightness and contrast. Move RGB Controls in tandem ALWAYS
7) 1080i is not as popular as 480p or 720p. Some current impressions are that 480p is sharper than the upconverted 720p. 720p is the preferred current mode. 480p over DVI has some line compression which is apparently an Oppo issue. Use 720p for now.
8) Set Color Space to REC601 - REC601 is for SDTV and REC709 is for HDTV. If you're never going to watch HDTV on the 4805, there's no need for REC709. REC709 will kick on if a DVD is upconverted to 720p or 1080i causing "green push".
9) Tracking and Phase adjustment are available with an HTDV component source. If these are adjusted with a component source and then a DVI source is hooked up, the previous settings will negatively impact the DVI source. It is best to set the Tracking and Phase back to default over a component source before switching to a DVI source.
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nate358 09-14-05, 11:50 AM no one else has any ideas? I guess AndrewS99 hit the nail on the head with this one.
Ja Phule 09-14-05, 11:59 AM Turn Overscan on the 4805 or you will get a slight border around your image because the oppo picture does not fully fill the image with overscan off.
nate358 09-14-05, 10:07 PM Thanks for the add Ja Phule!
Luis Gabriel Gerena 09-14-05, 10:19 PM Let me add that I am pretty sure I read in the 4805 thread that the Oppo wasnt "compatible" with the gain/offset numbers given by Bob Williams or at least that was the opinion of some Oppo owners. Feel free to research that thread just in case.
Regards
nate358 09-14-05, 10:23 PM Here's a question.... should one expect the "flashing" glitch in the newest firmware of the 4805 with the Oppo over DVI? I was reading this flashing is component related. I would need the letterbox mode in the newest firmware release to to be able to have a constant height setup.
Ja Phule 09-14-05, 10:49 PM I don't believe I've ever seen a flicker, if I have its been very rare. DaGamePimp said he's seen flickering over dvi but it rarely pops up, no where near as much as component.
nate358 09-14-05, 11:48 PM Let me add that I am pretty sure I read in the 4805 thread that the Oppo wasnt "compatible" with the gain/offset numbers given by Bob Williams or at least that was the opinion of some Oppo owners. Feel free to research that thread just in case.
Regards
So are the gain/offset numbers AndrewS99 quoted from Bob Williams?
nate358 09-16-05, 04:14 AM Well I'll answer my own questions :) The gain/offset numbers are from Bob Willams.
And Luis Gabriel Gerena, It has been confirmed that Bob's numbers work, but the Oppo needs the brightness turned up to +5.
All is good now!
Luis Gabriel Gerena 09-16-05, 10:30 AM Yeah I should have been more specific...the way the numbers are supposed to "work" are by using contrast/brightness at 50. But yes by tweaking the contrast and brightness you can use them as well...sorry for the lack of details. Didnt know the specific anyway so thanks for clarifying.
Regards
Jay Gregory 09-19-05, 12:54 PM Does the OPPO-included DVI-DVI cable plug directly into the 4805, or do I need to purchase an adapter? (Note that I have neither the player nor the projector at this point, but I'm trying to do some research.)
Ja Phule 09-19-05, 02:13 PM The 4805 has an M1 port. You need to buy the M1 to DVI adapter in order to use DVI.
Does the Oppo do a better job with higher resolution movies ? I'm curious how the Oppo upscaling performs with SuperBit DVD, regular Dual-Layer DVD, and backup DVDR (shrunk to 60%). Does it range from OMG (SuperBit) to good (DVD) to unwatchable (DVDR)? I don't own any SuperBit DVDs, but X'mas is around the corner, I can add some to my X'mas list (along with the Oppo of course) :)
Bump.
If no one has comments about SuperBit DVD, how about backup DVDRs? Is there a significant drop off between regular DL DVD and DVDRs?
nate358 10-01-05, 06:31 PM So here's a little report after I setup my projector.
I Set up the DVD as above and the projector as above and played movies in 720p over DVI of course on a 45 X 80 in. HCMW screen. I thought this looked awesome. Way more vivid colors and deeper blacks than my calibrated Panny AE700. Fact is I compared both over DVI from the Oppo and the 4805 just looked amazing.
Now here's the question. I put in the Avia DVD and checked all the patterns on my 4805. Almost all the patterns showed my 4805 was to bright... I could see both bars on the half black/gray screen. And on the Colors pattern with the filters my colors were way off also. So is the Avia DVD wrong or do I need to adjust my 4805 via the Brightness and contrast and RGB settings, BUT leave the gains and offsets at 58 and 28?
I also looked at the HQV Benchmark test under 720p and 480p. The 720p showed that the image was unstable. Which is a no brainer since this projector isn't 720p. Is it better to use 480p from the Oppo? It's almost impossible to see the difference between 720p and 480p. 480p seems a little bit sharper.
nate358 10-01-05, 06:35 PM Maybe the britness on the Oppo needs to be turned down from 5 to 4
im interested with this dvd player. i also have 4805 with toshiba 3960. i use component to connect my dvd to projector. just wondering if i can see the difference in picture quality wise if i get this oppo dvd player and connect my projector using the DVI "OUT" to M1 adaptor "IN" to 4805. i dont have budget to get new dvd but if somebody can tell me its worth the $200+ (dvd player + 35' cable + adapter) ill save my coffee budget every morning :) btw i have HCCV 92" fix screen.
Alex solomon 10-02-05, 12:57 PM RDD337, I have the Toshiba 4800, Zenith 318 and Oppo and the Oppo through DVI is much better than the other players through component. I have been using the Oppo for the past few months and I am amazed at the PQ every time I turn it on. Watching ABC's Lost on dvd was absolutely a treat. I now use the Toshiba as a cd player and the Zenith is connected to a analog Sony TV in another room. For me the PQ of the Oppo is way better than both players by a good margin. YMMV.
nate358 10-03-05, 12:09 PM let me ask this question again. I used Bob Williams gain/offsets and ran Avia over the Oppo. It seems the image is to bright. Who is at fault? Is the Avia disk wrong or do I need to still calibrate to Avia after using Bob's gain/offsets?
Alex,
I have the Zenith 318 player (new firmware to fix white crush problem) ... connected to the 4805 via DVI. The picture is very good. Have you made a fair comparison of the two players using the same output (i.e DVI) ?
Max
Ja Phule 10-03-05, 07:29 PM let me ask this question again. I used Bob Williams gain/offsets and ran Avia over the Oppo. It seems the image is to bright. Who is at fault? Is the Avia disk wrong or do I need to still calibrate to Avia after using Bob's gain/offsets?
Use Bob's settings and leave the 4805 at its defaults for contrast/brightness and set the Oppo's brightness to +5.
wes nance 10-03-05, 09:03 PM Alex,
I have the Zenith 318 player (new firmware to fix white crush problem) ... connected to the 4805 via DVI. The picture is very good. Have you made a fair comparison of the two players using the same output (i.e DVI) ?
Max
Max,
How did you get the 318 to work with the 4805. Do you have the newer firmware on the 4805? I couldn't get the 318 to boot up over DVI with the 4805, which is why I ended up with the OPPO.
Wes
Max,
How did you get the 318 to work with the 4805. Do you have the newer firmware on the 4805? I couldn't get the 318 to boot up over DVI with the 4805, which is why I ended up with the OPPO.
Wes
I have the original firmware (??.02 ) ... and I did not do anything special ... I have a older model (one of the first) 318s that did upconvert via component ... but since I was going digital all the way ... I decided to install the new firmware that fixes the white crush via DVI ... and it has worked great ! I have a Infocus brand DVI -> M1 cable and it has worked great.
An unrelated note - I recently purchased a sony 400disc changer that claims to upconvert to 1080i ... but when I hook it up to the 4805 it always outputs 480p regardless of what I set it to. I cannot get it to upconvert. So I had to return it.
A few folks have questioned the need for upconverting a signal to the 4805 .. and however legitimate the question ... I like the PQ from the 4805 when the source is sending a 1080i signal. My SA 8300HD cable box outputs everything in 1080i ... and I swear that folks who have seen my setup think that I have a 1080i projector.
Max
Alex solomon 10-03-05, 10:26 PM Alex,
I have the Zenith 318 player (new firmware to fix white crush problem) ... connected to the 4805 via DVI. The picture is very good. Have you made a fair comparison of the two players using the same output (i.e DVI) ?
Max
To be honest I have not tried both connected via DVI. From what I have read back in the glorious days of the Zenith, it's excellent performance was through component 1080i, and I was using that ever since I got the 318. I have complained about a green push on the Zenith but I don't remeber what I did to fix it, but I sure do remember that it was Wes who offered a solution. I was very happy with the 318 till I got the Oppo, that is. I have compaired both and the oppo via DVI is way far better (PQ) than the 318 via component.
Ja Phule 10-04-05, 01:35 AM OK. Here it is, this will be the final adjustments I plan on making on the 4805 with the Oppo for awhile.
4805
Gains: 58
Offsets: 29
Contrast: 50
Brightness: 50
Oppo
Brightness: +5
Contrast: 0
Saturation: +1
I popped in DVE tonight and I was able to come up with these numbers. I know my offset it a little off from bob's 28.5 setting and I think it is because the brightness steps from the Oppo are not as fine as that of the 4805. +5 on the Oppo brings it as close to studio DVI levels as it can get to Bob's numbers. Using the blue filter, Saturation on the Oppo needs to be bumped up just slightly.
nate358 10-04-05, 04:18 AM Ja Phule, what blue filter are you using? I didn't know the 4805 needed one. I am going to use a ND2 filter. Would I need a blue filter also?
cygnet74 10-04-05, 05:31 AM Ja Phule, what blue filter are you using? I didn't know the 4805 needed one. I am going to use a ND2 filter. Would I need a blue filter also?
a blue filter is used to view smpte color bars for calibrating color saturation and hue. alternatively, some displays will let you switch over to "blue only" for calibration also, but i've only seen this function on professional monitors.
Anthony*gw 10-04-05, 03:19 PM Can someone post some screen shots of the oppo/4805 combo
Can someone post some screen shots of the oppo/4805 combo
I second that. It'd be awesome if someone can do a comparison screen shot of 480i mode and 1080i mode. Thanks!
Bump. Pictures anyone?
1 more question. So like nate358 said the Oppo color on 4805 is more vivid, does it improve on detail sharpness and clarity? Can someone say it's semi-HD like? Because HD on 4805 looks awesome.
Ja Phule 10-24-05, 09:42 PM Some pictures I took the other week when I was testing out my tripod.
http://japhule.collinsreport.com/avs/oppo/IMG_0647.JPG
http://japhule.collinsreport.com/avs/oppo/IMG_0658.JPG
http://japhule.collinsreport.com/avs/oppo/IMG_0659.JPG
http://japhule.collinsreport.com/avs/oppo/IMG_0660.JPG
Ja, nice pics! I like the color, but the pics looks a bit blurry. Is it because of the camera or really pictures?
I'm MORE impressed with the FAQ. I'm going to check it out now!
Edit: Just finished reading your FAQ. Great info! The one that stood out was hard-power off my 4805 all the time. I've been doing soft-power off and leave the fan going, I'll do hard-power off from now on.
Ja Phule 10-24-05, 11:22 PM yeah, the pics came out blurrier than I expected, I don't know how to use a camera. :)
wolverinefan99 10-25-05, 11:30 AM Has anyone calibrated the 4805+oppo with the new oppo firmware? I've been running Bob's numbers on the 4805, and +5 brightness and +1 saturation on the oppo. I'm wondering what the oppo settings should be with the new firmware. Oppo indicates +5 brightness now equals 0, but other threads have recommended changing to -3. I dont have any test DVDs.
Thanks
Ja Phule 10-25-05, 11:48 AM I've dropped my brightness to -3 with the newest firmware after recalibrating.
I've dropped my brightness to -3 with the newest firmware after recalibrating.Did you mean the brightness to +3
Ja Phule 12-14-05, 12:51 PM With the 1111B firmware, brightness should be correct on the Oppo at 0. With the 1022 firmware, it should be at -3. The 4805 should be using the 58 gains/28.5 offset.
With the 1111B firmware, brightness should be correct on the Oppo at 0. With the 1022 firmware, it should be at -3. The 4805 should be using the 58 gains/28.5 offset.Thanks. :)
dmcdayton 02-05-06, 11:01 AM Just ordered an OPPO as my birthday present to myself. Wondering if there's been any updates to these recommended "optimum settings"?
Using 4805 with 30' DVI to M1DA cable. 4805 has the latest firmware.
Did they ever release a firmware for OPPO that lets you perfectly match the 4805's resolution?
nate358 03-09-06, 08:39 PM anyone using the new firmware 0220 with their 4805? If so what are your settings for your oppo?
dmcdayton 03-11-06, 06:35 PM Nate:
4805
Gains 58
Offsets 29
Film Gamma
White Peaking 0
Oppo
Default settings
Brightness -1
Saturation +1
This is not with most current 4805 firmware released in past 2 weeks, its with the one just prior. Check JaPhule's posts, I believe he's recalibrated recently as well.
nate358 03-11-06, 07:21 PM thanks
nate358 03-11-06, 07:59 PM well i've tryed some settings and here is what I'm at right now.
4805:
software version 1.2.1
Boot Version 1.3
OEM 1.2
gamma film
white peaking 0
gain 58
offset 28 .... not 28.5
Oppo newest firmware 0220
Video mode 2
Video setup
everything off and at 0
under tv display I'm using Wide.... should I be using Wide/SQZ?
I calibrated using the new Get Gray Calibration Disk and the blue filter from the Consumer Avia DVD. Get Gray's disk is supposed to be better than the pro Avia DVD.
nate358 03-11-06, 08:25 PM Oh and I'm sending out a 720p signal... should I be sending a 480p?
dmcdayton 03-11-06, 10:45 PM 480P is what I am using, with great results.
Ja Phule 03-12-06, 02:57 AM Oppo at 480p, everything 0 with saturation at +1 on the Oppo (though I didn't recalibrate color after the new updates). 4805 gains at 58/30.5 with 1.3.2 firmware.
Cricricri 03-12-06, 01:39 PM As 58/28.5 are the correct Acupel numbersssss for the 4805, wouldn't it be better to alter Oppo's brightness setting instead ?
Ja Phule 03-12-06, 05:05 PM It shouldn't matter what you use for brightness as long as you calibrate it correctly.
So this should Be the correct setting with the latest firmware for both the Oppo (MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0220) and the Infocus 4805 V. 1.3.2.
Any recomended Changes?
Interesting Info...
1) 4805 is not prone to Macroblocking with Faroudja chipset
2) RGB Gains = Contrast
3) RGB Offset = Brightness
4) RGB settings above work with equal "bit depth" (10 bits) to the brightness/contrast controls
On Oppo
1) Set Brightness to -3
Set Saturation to +1
2) Set Sharpness to Off (Eliminates "shimmering"
3) Set TrueLife On (Motion adaptive deinterlacing - what Faroudja is known for) Should this be off now?
4) Set CCS Off (May reduce flicker between bright colors)
5) Keep Contrast at 0
6)Video mode 2
Video setup
everything off and at 0
On 4805
1) Set RGB Gains = 58
2) Set RGB Offsets = 28 to 30.5
3) Set White Peaking to 0
4) Set Gamma to Film
5) Check a 480i source (Oppo component) and make sure Sharpness is set for Softest (per krasmuzik) - Softest may reduce ringing. This will affect DVI even though you can't reset sharpness once DVI is hooked up. This becomes a problem if Sharpness was increased past Standard since it will introduce artifacts on the DVI connection. It is currently unclear if the 1.13 firmware has fixed this issue.
6) Make sure Brightness and Contrast are always set to 50 - use RGB Gain/Offset to adjust brightness and contrast. Move RGB Controls in tandem ALWAYS
7) 1080i is not as popular as 480p or 720p. Some current impressions are that 480p is sharper than the upconverted 720p. 720p is the preferred current mode. 480p over DVI has some line compression which is apparently an Oppo issue. Use 720p for now.
8) Set Color Space to REC601 - REC601 is for SDTV and REC709 is for HDTV. If you're never going to watch HDTV on the 4805, there's no need for REC709. REC709 will kick on if a DVD is upconverted to 720p or 1080i causing "green push".
9) Tracking and Phase adjustment are available with an HTDV component source. If these are adjusted with a component source and then a DVI source is hooked up, the previous settings will negatively impact the DVI source. It is best to set the Tracking and Phase back to default over a component source before switching to a DVI source.
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cardgone 04-23-06, 09:36 PM I have the Oppo dvd player and the 4805 and I am having trouble figuring out how the two shoudl be set together to play different formatted movies.
I just got a movie that says Widescreen 1.84:1 on it and I am not sure how the two pieces of equipemnt should be set. When I set the 4805 to 16:9 and the oppo to wide screen, it fills the whole 16:9 96" screen. When I set the oppo to wide/sqz and the 4808 to 16:9 or native, it looks anamorphic, but there something wierd about it. It is like the people are slightly bent or something.
Can someone tell me what the settings should be for the best picture with these two for the the regular sizes DVD are available in?
!. Standard or full screen, ?
2. 16:9 or widescreen 2.34:1 ?
3. widescreen letterbox or 1.84:1?
Thanks!!!
Ja Phule 04-23-06, 09:53 PM I have the Oppo dvd player and the 4805 and I am having trouble figuring out how the two shoudl be set together to play different formatted movies.
I just got a movie that says Widescreen 1.84:1 on it and I am not sure how the two pieces of equipemnt should be set. When I set the 4805 to 16:9 and the oppo to wide screen, it fills the whole 16:9 96" screen. When I set the oppo to wide/sqz and the 4808 to 16:9 or native, it looks anamorphic, but there something wierd about it. It is like the people are slightly bent or something.
Can someone tell me what the settings should be for the best picture with these two for the the regular sizes DVD are available in?
!. Standard or full screen, ?
2. 16:9 or widescreen 2.34:1 ?
3. widescreen letterbox or 1.84:1?
Thanks!!!
1. For fullscreen movies (4:3) movies, you have 2 options. For best picture quality, you should leave the Oppo at Wide and set the 4805 to 4:3. The other option is to set the Oppo to Wide/SQZ and leave the 4805 at 16:9. The 2nd option is there so that you don't have to mess with the 4805's aspect ratio and just leave it at 16:9 at all times, however, this option means the Oppo will control the aspect ratio and it doesn't look as good as the first option.
2 and 3. Keep the 4805 at 16:9 and Oppo at Wide. It should be the same as long as both widescreen formats, 1.85:1 and 2.35:1 are "anamorphic" dvds.
4. Some movies are non-anamorphic widescreen (usually older ones), meaning the black bars are part of the picture. You have 2 options for these movies. For best picture quality, set the 4805 to "Letterbox" and the Oppo to "Wide." The 2nd option is to leave the 4805 at 16:9 and set the Oppo to "Wide/SQZ" with using Oppo's zoom options (usually at 1.3x or 1.5x).
I'm currently having some problems with my 4805 and Oppo over DVI. I'm using firmware MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0302 on the Oppo and just upgraded the firmware on the 4805 to 1.3.2.
I'm using the numbers a few posts up that look pretty good to my eye.
I'm sending the signal from the oppo at 720p. I noticed on dark scenes and transitions (screen completly black) that their are blue lines going across mainly on the right side. I didn't have this problem before upgrading the firmware on the 4805 tonight. Is their any solution other than flashing back to the previous version ?
I notice this more on the DVI than the component connection. I think its their on the component but I can't notice it as much.
thanks for any help
update:
I looked at a dvd again to see if i could figure out exactly what was causing this and it seems it happens at the same time / scene everytime on Seven. I checked this one becuase of the dark scenes in the beg. And it only seemed to happen on 2 or 3 scenes and no where else. I really don't understand what is going on. It almost looks like some sort of static you would see on analog tv, but instead of the black and white dots you see horizontal blue thin lines.
Ja Phule 06-01-06, 11:42 AM Are you sure its a problem with the oppo and 4805 and not the actual disc itself?
I'm pretty sure its not the disc, as I watched it before and had no problems and get almost the same thing on the new Boondock Saints dvd. Usually happens on the fade outs on that one.
Also I've had the Oppo and this firmware for a couple of months so I don't think its that. But I just upgraded the firmware on the 4805, maybe i should try and flash again ?
Also if I go back to the older firmware where do I dl it ? I see on the Faq it has links to the oldest 2 firmware's but not the last one before 1..3.2
Ja Phule 06-01-06, 11:52 AM Can you direct me to the exact scene in Seven and boondock? I have the Seven 2 Disc SE and original (not the newly released) boondock saints dvd.
On Seven the scene I see it most is track 4 about 9:30. It is where morgan freeman and bradpit are standing over a body. I see thin blue lines almost covering brad pitt's body. It happens in a few other places beside this scene but not as bad.
thanks for the help
I just tried this again to make sure I wasn't going crazy. It isn'at as bad as last night when I watched it but I noticed 2 white lines going through brad pitts body. Also It happens on the Oppo screen saver also, so i'm pretty sure its not the dvd. This time I also noticed that their were bright flahes during playback, I didn't notice any on the older firmware that people were complaining about but this is pretty distracting.
I noticed the 4805 makes a dif startup sound with this firmware, is this correct ?
Well I'm thinking of flashing it to the 1.13 firmware unless someone has some ideas of what's causing this or how to stop it. I can't seem to find the 1.2.1 firmware.
I will prob wait a couple of hours thou, we have some thunderstorms here and don't want to turn it into a paper weight.
Ja Phule 06-01-06, 10:01 PM I checked the scene from Seven and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I'm using the 1.3.2 4805 firmware and 316 Oppo firmware. I'm guessing it could be some interference with your dvi cable.
Thanks for checking that out Ja Phule. I thought for sure it wasn't a problem with my DVI cable since I watched Boondocks the night before and didn't notice any problems with firmware 1.13 I believe. So Since I just upgraded firmware I thought that was the problem. But since I couldn't find anyone with the same problems I thought I would take your advice and try another DVI cable. Well now I see no problems like before, damn that is strange.
Thanks again, I don't understand it but all i care is that it works like before.
Ymcapolis 08-21-06, 10:10 AM Hi!
And what about setup now, with newest firmwares (Oppo and 4805), connecting by DVI - M1 ??
There are new firmwares, in oppo:
MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 10-0720
Release Date: July 28, 2006
and in IF4805:
Version 1.3.2 for ScreenPlay 4805 (06/03/03).
Thankyou!
mijoeldotor 09-02-06, 03:55 PM what has happened with this post?
nate358 09-03-06, 02:02 AM turns out the Bravo D1 looks better than the Oppo on the 4805, so it hasn't got much action.
mijoeldotor 09-03-06, 09:59 PM ok.
By the way...is there a Oppo firmware that can let the player do custom resolution?
Ja Phule 09-04-06, 01:53 AM I'm still using the Oppo. What more do we need to add to this thread?
mijoeldotor 09-04-06, 01:15 PM I'm still using the Oppo. What more do we need to add to this thread?
A Firmware to do the 1:1 pixel map!! :D :D :D
Basilisk 09-04-06, 09:12 PM I don't think a 1:1 pixel map upgrade will ever be implemented into the Oppo firmware. Furthermore, I don't think it can be done without PQ degradation.
Just a thought.
mijoeldotor 09-11-06, 09:55 PM A friend of mine is having some problem when feeding the 4805 through dvi from the 971 at 720p. The image freezes for an instant, and then the film goes on normally. He has a 32' dvi-dvi cable and a dvi-M1 adapter. No problems through 480p. Any ideas?
I would like to know what is happening because i would like to upgrade my dvd player and the 971 is one of my targeted players.
mijoeldotor 09-16-06, 08:43 PM no ideas????
I'm thinking of upgrading, but I'm wondeing how much better an IN76 or Optoma H70 with a regular dvd player would look compared to the 4805 and D1. Anyone have an idea?
Reason for the upgrade is I want to sit closer to a bigger image, and for full high def. With the 4805 I still see screen door to about 2.3 times width. Looks realy good at 2.5 or greater. Just want that look at around 1.5 x. The new H70 sounds interesting from preliminary reports.
How much should I expect to get for a 4805 with low hours and the d1 combo?
Ja Phule 09-18-06, 01:24 AM I'm thinking of upgrading, but I'm wondeing how much better an IN76 or Optoma H70 with a regular dvd player would look compared to the 4805 and D1. Anyone have an idea?
Reason for the upgrade is I want to sit closer to a bigger image, and for full high def. With the 4805 I still see screen door to about 2.3 times width. Looks realy good at 2.5 or greater. Just want that look at around 1.5 x. The new H70 sounds interesting from preliminary reports.
How much should I expect to get for a 4805 with low hours and the d1 combo?
Maybe you should ask in the 4805 and D1 thread. :) Seriously, screen door will be there no matter what dvd player you use with the 4805. The only way to get rid of screen door is to get a higher resolution projector.
mijoeldotor 09-18-06, 01:39 PM gprro1, If you upgrade the 4805 for a 720p pj you must do the upgrade of the D1 as well. You can find many posts where D1 do not do a good job with a 720p pj.
mijoeldotor 09-18-06, 01:40 PM ...but we are in the 4805 and Oppo 971 thread....
I'm planning to upgrade my player, but I'm not sure if going for the Oppo or an RCA HD-DVD.
a) Does anybody know which one performs better with the 4805?. I understand I won't be needing upscale since the 4805's native res.
b) Would I need any additional (other than the one bundled with the Oppo) adapter/cable to hook the Oppo and 4805
c) I understand that this two equipment are like they were made for each other, like the oppo provides one of the best (if not the best) picture available for the 4805. Is this correct?. Are users very very happy with this combo, or is there a better player to combine with the 4805?
Thanks a lot for your answers!
Maybe you should ask in the 4805 and D1 thread. :) Seriously, screen door will be there no matter what dvd player you use with the 4805. The only way to get rid of screen door is to get a higher resolution projector.
craps, Must have been tired when I posted, I thought this was the D1 thread . Woops. So at 2x distance will a 720 machine look much better. I will probably get an Oppo if I upgrade, or maybe the Tosh HD.
bobbydazzler 04-13-07, 12:01 PM Hi All
First post on this forum so please be forgiving if this is on another thread somewhere...
I have been running the 4805 for a few years now as my first projector and have connected it to many different dvd players (too many to mention here). The current player is a Cyberhome 655 upconverting via HDMI. This has it's drawbacks, but I thought it was worth dipping my toe in the upconverting water for <$100
My question is, "Is the Oppo DV-971H still a good investment seeing as Oppo now sell the DV-981HD?"
Points for thought:
-Very good user base for the 4805 + DV-971H
-Excellent configuration recommendations for both 4805 + DV-971H
-Seems like macroblocking is minimal with this setup
-DV-981HD has HDMI connector (I can use existing HDMI cables)
-'Future-proofing' with 1080p?
-It is black (cool)
-I cannot find as big a user base for the 4805 + DV-981HD
I would be interested in any thoughts you all have or a redirect to a specific thread.
Thanks
Rob.
frankie_v 04-13-07, 09:06 PM Hi All
First post on this forum so please be forgiving if this is on another thread somewhere...
I have been running the 4805 for a few years now as my first projector and have connected it to many different dvd players (too many to mention here). The current player is a Cyberhome 655 upconverting via HDMI. This has it's drawbacks, but I thought it was worth dipping my toe in the upconverting water for <$100
My question is, "Is the Oppo DV-971H still a good investment seeing as Oppo now sell the DV-981HD?"
Points for thought:
-Very good user base for the 4805 + DV-971H
-Excellent configuration recommendations for both 4805 + DV-971H
-Seems like macroblocking is minimal with this setup
-DV-981HD has HDMI connector (I can use existing HDMI cables)
-'Future-proofing' with 1080p?
-It is black (cool)
-I cannot find as big a user base for the 4805 + DV-981HD
I would be interested in any thoughts you all have or a redirect to a specific thread.
Thanks
Rob.
There wouldn't be a big difference between the 971/981. Since the 4805 is just an EDTV, there is no need to spend more for it.. I own the 981 for my plasma and just bought the 971 for my 4805 about 3 months ago. If you think it will be some time until you buy a 1080p projector go with the 971. By the time you decide to upgrade there may be a newer model. And comb this thread for settings. It made a world of difference in detail and color. You will not regret the buy.
The macroblocking and screen door effect have dropped significantly.
bobbydazzler 04-14-07, 10:46 AM Thanks Frankie
It does seem like the 971 is the answer.
I also posed the question to Oppo and here is their reply;
"Rob,
You will want to use the OPDV971H. The reason for this that we have had
some synchronization issues with the DV-981HD and the InFocus 4805.
However, there are some third party software solutions which may make
the DV-981HD compatible with the InFocus 4805.
Best Regards,
Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc."
Not sure what they mean by "third party software solutions" but I prefer the 971 and, with the setting mentioned in this thread, use the setup for what it is designed to do. Watch awesome DVDs.
Thanks,
Rob.
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone has experienced problems with the above combo and using the 2805 component video switching? All I'm getting is a 'signal out of range' message while the 4805 is searching for my source.
Thanks
Mike
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