Check it out folks:

Hasbro Zoombox
- combo DVD player / front-projector
- $299
- available this December
- no other specs provided :(

Press release here (http://www.hasbro.com/media/pl/page.release/dn/default.cfm?release=391)

Better start toning down the language around here. The tweeners are coming. ;)

wonder if that is one of the new LED projo's

i would think so

Here is a picture from Walmart's site... I wonder if it's DLP or LCD or ????
-Matt

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/65/35/69/10/0065356910429_500X500.jpg
http://www.strangenewproducts.com/uploaded_images/hasbro-zoombox.jpg

Very Interesting

Any specs?

All I can find out is Walmart is out of stock.

Given the 60 inch image size qouted by Hasbro, it's probably low on the lumens.

Wonder what kind of bulb it uses?

It could be a 640x480 panel (or less), or maybe 848x480 if you're lucky.

Still, an interesting turn in the market.

Well, that's still pretty nifty. Given bulb prices I'm amazed there's any margin here.

COOOOOOL!! ;)

Actually, it is pretty interesting. I can already see my nephew begging for one of these for his bedroom right now. :D

Actually it says 60" and LARGER

Given the price I would predict it is:

Single panel LCD ala' overhead tft but mini panel

640x480 or lower

Bulb= low wattage overhead projector/ slide projector style as well



We will see, hopefully it is better, but I would think not


Pretty neat and at least it gets consumers more and more used to FP moving forward, we will be raising a new lot of FP enthiusiasts!!!


TJ

Looks like a fun little toy. Mate it with the Da-Lite HiPower retroreflective and the lumens should be decent. Of course the screen costs as much as the PJ... :p

Exclusively in New York? :confused:

The Walmart site is also showing it (not in stock). They list it as "up to 60 inches" (if memory serves), but Hasbro's press release says 60" or larger.

wonder if that is one of the new LED projo's

i would think so


I can't imagine that they would market a bulb based pj to the kid market unless it's some kind of bulb other than my OHP or DLP. Even my OHP bulb needs special care (cooldown, etc) not to mention the fan that cools the 400 watts coming off the thing. And a UHP (?) bulb like my Benq costs more than the PJ and is way too fragile I would presume.

Must be either a cheap bulb or LED. I'm betting LED.

While this is more of a kids thing, I am curious as to the tech details. In any event it certainly bodes well for FP.

Edit: Just struck me that this is most likely DLP because from my experience hanging with the LCD DIY forums getting enough light thru an LCD panel is pretty difficult. But that just may be from the DIY angle?

Another thought just hit me. What do you suppose they do with all the leftover DLP chips? You know the ones that are not state of the art anymore? Wanna bet they have found their way into this projector?

Enjoy.

So, when do we see the first projector packed in a cereal box? ;)

The neat thing here would be to use them (inexpensive led dlp projectors) as diy rear projection sets. With the very short throw lenses, they are possibly an economical alternative to the very expensive dlp rp sets. Build a screen into the front of the entertainment center and put the projctor behind it, you get a 40" or so rptv for regular use at 1/3 the price of what is out there.

Wonder who the OEM is for Hasbro? Optoma? Even less dollars than Movietime. I too suspect is LED. More durable for target market. Ok by me to indoctrinate the kids into FP early as possible and with their own system.

Looks like the perfect companion for a 92" graywolf

Victor

I can't imagine that they would market a bulb based pj to the kid market unless it's some kind of bulb other than my OHP or DLP. Even my OHP bulb needs special care (cooldown, etc) not to mention the fan that cools the 400 watts coming off the thing. And a UHP (?) bulb like my Benq costs more than the PJ and is way too fragile I would presume.

Must be either a cheap bulb or LED. I'm betting LED.

While this is more of a kids thing, I am curious as to the tech details. In any event it certainly bodes well for FP.

Edit: Just struck me that this is most likely DLP because from my experience hanging with the LCD DIY forums getting enough light thru an LCD panel is pretty difficult. But that just may be from the DIY angle?

Another thought just hit me. What do you suppose they do with all the leftover DLP chips? You know the ones that are not state of the art anymore? Wanna bet they have found their way into this projector?

Enjoy.


no kidding, look how damn hot a projector runs... it would be lawsuit central if you gave one to a child

Hey,
I registered just to post this info. I have done my research and found out this much. The bulb is a 12 volt 35 watt MR-11 that has a lumen output between 656 and 668 depending on whether it is the spot or flood model. The difference between spot and flood is a 10 degree and 30 degree beam spread. The bulb is listed on Hasbro's site. I tried to post links, but as you all know, site admins block them on new accounts to prevent spam. In order to find a little more info about the pj, go to Hasbro's com site and use the search function (top right corner of the page) using the keyword ZoomBox. You will find a link to a product demo page. It was the first link when I searched the site today. The flash product demo of the ZoomBox is near the bottom of the product demo page. I also found a pdf where I got the lumen output, but CURSES!!! Foiled again! No links for the newbie. The model number of the bulb is in the flash demo so you guys can google like me to get that info confirmed for yourself. I haven't found the native screen resolution or the contrast ratio, but the lumen output is a bit discouraging. That being said, since the bulb is a 12 volt bulb, it may be easily modded. I think the modding community is gonna love this baby.

tomblik

I forgot to mention that Hasbro published the MR-11 with a 1000 hour life. However, when searching for the lumen output of the bulb, other sites rated the bulb at somewhere between 2000 and 4000 hours. The 1000 hour figure may have been a conservative estimate on the part of Hasbro/Tiger. Bulb prices are around $12.

tomblik

There is test posting forum http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=46 for case like this - make test posts there and you could post links :)

Good lord, the bulbs are even cheaper than that, they're on line for less than $5 each (just google mr-11 bulb). I don't intend to violate any forum policy by posting this, if it is a problem please mods either delete the specific price or let me know and I'll delete it.

The hasbro page which has the clickable flash thingy on it is

http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=demos&type=t&asset_cat_id=3

Zoombox is on the bottom right

Can't find anything about its resolution -- as one article notes, "This might be the most low-cost projector on the market. Of course there is no word about brightness, contrast ratio or supported resolutions. The photo of the Zoombox is also promising not too much."

http://www.i4u.com/article4200.html

Not sure I agree that it's going to be hot with modders -- if the resolution is poor it doesn't matter how bright you can get it.

Still, I think there will be a big demand for this -- you have to look to find a 32" regular old curved-screen tv for $300, and that doesn't include the DVD. This promises 60" so it ought to at least provide 40" to 50" image size. With a built-in DVD player and connections (composite only) for a game system, replacement bulbs $5, I sure wish I'd had one when I was a kid.

I actually emailed Hasbro asking them what technology it used and what the resolution was. The CS person who replied gave me a standard response, something about not being able to comment on the specs of an unreleased product because they may still change.

I emailed them back and asked them to talk to an engineer about the tech its using (DLP, LCD, etc...) because there was no way that could change in the few months before release. They said, ok, that they would check but never got back to me... :(

Anyway, I know we are not supposed to talk about street prices here but Walmart has already discounted it! It used to be $296 on their site and it's already down to $282! Edit my post if you want madpoet... usually street prices are hundreds, if not thousands off the MSRP. In this case its about $17! :D
-Matt

These things are all over EB@Y for about $150.00~$250.00. They are not the Hasbro brand, but they are the same size, and use the same type of bulb, but do not have a built in DVD player. Depending on the seller, they spec the resolution to be either 480x234 or 800x600.

Here's a link that shows the specs:

Cheapy Projector (http://www.gocybershop.ca/customer/product.php?productid=990&cat=219&page=1)

Here's a link with a few reviews:

Reviews (http://projectorsprojectors.com/peavey/peavey_hx_7111/)

And one more link with more pictures showing the bulb:

Pics (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=55275)

Wow at that price it would be a great replacement for the bedroom tv... low quality and not bright... who cares when all I am watchign is the late night show....

Don't forget, at the recommended screen size for these projectors you can request a couple of free FireHawk screen samples from Stewart Filmscreen and make yourself a FireHawk screen.

Problem is that even with lower lumen output the thing could still do damage to a kids eyeballs if he keeps peeking into the lens while it's on (and you know there are kids out there that would do it) . I doubt it comes with a ceiling mount ;) .

--- That said it is a very cool idea for a kid :) .

-------- Jason

I doubt the moderators are concerned about posting street prices for this toy projector.

Look for even more falling prices at Walmart. :D

According to the Tiger Electronics website, the Zoombox has a resolution of 557x234.
You can see it for yourself at the tiger electronics site.

tomblik

z1 is $500 now. Id rather have that, than a cheapo toy.

z1 is $500 now. Id rather have that, than a cheapo toy.

sure, but with only $5 replacement bulbs that don't get too hot and dont' have to be handled so carefully, this makes sense to give to a child.

A Z1 will have a much better picture, sure, but do kids care? Not really...also this has a built in dvd player.

If I had an appropriately aged kid, I'd get them one of these...

Rich

So, when do we see the first projector packed in a cereal box? ;)


Looks like we just did. :D Hehehehe

Craig

Some info from Hasbro's site:

60 inch image @ 8 feet from wall.

557 x 234 resolution.

Amazon now has this up with three pictures. The side panel with the connections shows yellow, white, and red RCA's and possibly two more jacks underneath.

From the looks of it, it's possible this is a fixed lens projector, and the resolution sucks, but I guess we'll have to wait and see when it ships.

Does anyone know how they would arrive at 557 x 234?

Doug

More info:

A google search of 557 x 234 resolution brings up tons of 1.8 inch and 2 inch LCD screens used mostly in cameras.

Hasbro's web site says its for ages 8 and up, so how dangerous can it be?

Doug

Wow, this thing is quite interesting! Maybe I'll be able to get a projector sooner than I thought! :p

Wow - 2.38 native aspect ratio - now that's learning our youngins the right way!
:D

I can just see tykes in the DVD section complaining about how Elmo is fool screen, and can they check in the back to see if there's a widescreen copy!

"MY DILEMMA: New car or PJ? New car or PJ? New car or PJ?"

My first car also was $300, but it was hardly "new".

"MY DILEMMA: New car or PJ? New car or PJ? New car or PJ?"

My first car also was $300, but it was hardly "new".

No brainer. You only need the car long enough to go get the PJ! :p

I wonder if it has a Faroudja ;-)

All kidding aside, this thing looks awesome. I'm not sure where I might stick one, but I'm certainly I'll probably be buying one at some point in time.

Well, if someone buys this, be sure to post your thoughts. I'd seriously consider buying this "toy" just for fun. Hey, it's still better than my 13" Orion :P. I mean, a $5 lamp?! Genius!

557 x 234 Widesceen Resolution
Built in DVD Player
~600 lumens out of a bulb that costs about 15$ and lasts for 1000 hours
Hookups for external sources including gaming systems

I think this product has a good chance of succeeding amongst three demographics:

1. Parents who want to let their kids watch and play with a big screen at a small price with the ability to take it on the road.

2. College-age kids who want a big screen in a small package without a large price tag.

3. Current projector owners who enjoy the benefits of a projected image who want a secondary more flexible unit .

I have a few co-workers who are strongly considering trying it out if is at all respectable because it is not only a very cheap initial investment, but also has very little upkeep costs (most people are still frightened by 400$ bulbs).

Moreover, I know my girlfriend and I would enjoy having a second projector which would allow us to watch a large picture in bed, take a simple movie experience over to a friend's or relative's house, or even just to use as a second setup (large high quality image for the big game, small image of another game with the secondary projector). I for one hope this shows the industry that while I shop quality when it comes to my main home theater setup, there are times when price and convience have their place.

If only it was 640X480!!!!!!!! I would be all over that!

If only it was 640X480!!!!!!!! I would be all over that!

1280x720 for $750! :p

In stock at walmart.com... who's gonna test this out?

Found a few on ebay, not a bad deal if you ask me. Someones gotta test it out for this price.

EBAY (http://cgi.*********/Tiger-ZoomBox-projector-DVD-CD-player-NEW-in-box_W0QQitemZ5832657721QQcategoryZ71587QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem)

forget 60". These kinds of things should be around to kill plasmas. giver a dark grey screen and a 40" diagonal

I find it a bit interesting that nobody has actually seen it. I did a (quick) internet search for reviews and found nothing that made me think a reviewer had actually seen or touched it.
This thread was started about 6 weeks ago and there isn't any real info about it out?Compare that to what happens when a new projector is _really_ released...

If it really is being sold at WalMart (or wherever) I find it difficult to believe that at least a few people haven't bought one, even to try and return. It isn't on the Canadian Walmart site or I would see what happens if you order it ... I would expect an "out of stock, we will ship when available" message at some point in the process.

About the most believable information I found was a site claiming that it would only be sold through a NY Hasbro store, starting in December.

Even more evidence that it doesn't exist yet? My kids haven't seen any ads for it on TV ... Can you really imagine Hasbro or the resellers NOT advertising this for Christmas if they had stock to sell?

Just my $0.02.

Rod.

I put in an order at WalMart to see if they send it. I can always return it just up the road from me if it is totally junk. But if it does what it says and the kids can watch a dvd without firing up the regular projector, it might be worth keeping. I think it would only look half decent on animation. It might be ok for their video games. Will let you know if I get a shipping notice.

saw an end cap full of them at the Elmhurst Target on Black Friday,no one seemed paticularly interested in buying them.

anyone got one yet? mini revew?

here is a link to the product on The Hasbro/Tiger site:

http://www.hasbro.com/tigertoys/default.cfm?page=hot&product_id=16983

557 x 234

So it is widescreen, but half of NTSC vertical resolution.

So when do you think we will have the first "Wow, HD on this unit looks just like a 720p projector post???" :)

Reedl

here is a link to the product on The Hasbro/Tiger site:

http://www.hasbro.com/tigertoys/default.cfm?page=hot&product_id=16983

557 x 234

So it is widescreen, but half of NTSC vertical resolution.

So when do you think we will have the first "Wow, HD on this unit looks just like a 720p projector post???" :)

Reedl

Well, from the early reviews of the Infocus 4805, they said if you sat at least 2x the screen width, it was just as good as the 720p projectors with standard dvd, so if you sit 4x or 5x the screen width from the Hasbro projector, a source of 557 x 234 should look as good on it as it would on a 720p projector, right? :p Heck, I'll bet it looks like a Quaila 004 from half a mile back. What would a 557 x 234 source be? UMD or itunes video?

Walt

I would consider buying it at Target and trying it out for a few months(Target has a 90 day return policy),but I don't know if Target considers it a portable dvd player,or a portable electronic,which are both subject to a 15% restocking fee.

I got one today but have not had time to play with it much. I fired it up just to make sure it works. I will try it out in the theater later today or tomorrow and give you my thoughts.

I got one today but have not had time to play with it much. I fired it up just to make sure it works. I will try it out in the theater later today or tomorrow and give you my thoughts.

Dude, you're my hero :D.

yup your my hero also

Johnbe,

Please let us know your impressions.

I gave it a look see using Star Wars IV.

I projected against a light colored wall and a gray wolf screen.

It is basically just a toy. Even with total light control it is barely visable. It is hardly brighter than a flashlight. It does have controls to raise the brightness and contrast but this did not help much. There is no way with a dark video game that it could be played successfully on this machine. I could not get it properly focused either. Even if you bought this just for your kids to watch cartoon video's and play video games, I believe after a couple of hours they would tire of it and want to go back to regular television. If it were brighter the picture would have been watchable even though limited by the 557 x 234 resolution. The sound was fine. The construction seems to be ok. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give this about a 3. If someone were to buy this thinking they could use it to watch movies on a Friday night, they would be sorely disappointed. If the kids wanted to play movie theater owner, then it would be fine.

How big of a screen were you using? Did you try something small-ish like 40"? Also, were your lights low and/or off while viewing?

Thanks for the report.
-Matt

Well, that's too bad :(. Does this mean I should go ahead and order one of those $10 lenses offa eBay and turn my CRT into a projector? Anyone know if those work well? :p

How big of a screen were you using? Did you try something small-ish like 40"? Also, were your lights low and/or off while viewing?

Thanks for the report.
-Matt

I varied the size of the image. Even a 24" image was weak. I blew it up to a 60" image and you could see what was playing but it was really faded. I have total light control in my theater room. It basically only works if the lights are completely off.

I wonder if its possible to upgrade the bulb....

Victor

Wow. I expected a bit more. It should have been fairly easy to get a low rez, slightly fuzzy, bright enough image, considering how well some DIY projectors seem to work.

I wonder if its possible to upgrade the bulb....

Victor


I thought the same thing last nite as I was contemplating the review. You can be sure there will be someone who will try. I think the problem will be cooling the bulb enough so it doesn't melt down the plastic housing?

But it's really kinda moot at this point IMHO. Why? Because there's no way any true videophile is gonna START with such horrible resolution in the first place. At least not while you can get a REAL projector as cheaply as you can these days.

Enjoy.

I think we may be missing the point here. This PJ is intended to be a toy. It was never meant to be marketed to videophiles. It might be decent for kids or drunken dorm room parties, but if you want to build a home theater you probably aren't getting off to a good start by cutting corners. That being said, I would still like to try one for myself.

I got one opened up here and can post an internal pic for you guys if ya like but where?

Also took the bulb out, replaced with a 12v55w without any case mods (although I would mod the cooling system as well) just to check out the result and it worked fine brighter pic. A plastic tiny fresnel lens is the current heat related concern I have as an immediate issue so far with this.

Its a toy for sure but may provide an easy and effective base for holding upgraded components etc.

For the money and "fun" value of modding and tweaking I'd say it looks good so far.

Hiya ImodItweak :)

Nice thread resurrect, hope you're still around to see this. I was googling like mad to find any interest in modding a zoombox. I've just ordered one (the price was right at just $150 Canadian) so presuming it actually arrives and based on performance I thought I might be fiddling with it once the warranty expires.

So I was looking for anyone who had already been there done that and this was the only reference I've found. Odd since the reviews seem mixed and the way the price is going down it seems suited to tinkerers to tweak just a little more out of it.

Like the increased lamp wattage. I'd already been thinking along those lines and the cooling obviously.

More technical I'm wondering about swapping out the lcd for a higher resolution salvage from a dead digital camera or such. But that is beyond my expertise.

Anyway if anyone else out there is playing with these things and sees this thread let's hear what you've done.

Tried it. Very disappointing.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=756397&highlight=zoombox

Ended up making my own (way better performing than this toy)

Victor

Thanks victor-eyd. I'd seen your linked reveiw, it seemed about in the honest middle ground of what I've read. And while I've got the parts and plans for a diy projector here, have had for a couple years, I'm not finding the time to actually build it... :(

The zoombox, at $150 for a portable, was too good to pass up even ignoring the hyped reviews. If it works half as good it'll be fine. And if it's tweakable for a little better picture so much the better. If not, well there's a 45 day return window.

Hey all. Well it arrived today. Kudos to TOYSRUS and Canada Post for a super quick delivery.

Unfortunately the thing is defective. No sound. Ignoring that I had a quick play with it and one issue makes it pretty bad even for the price. That issue is the pixelation some have mentioned. It's horrible. I can't imagine even children smiling while straining their eyes to watch movies or play games using this. The rest (contrast, brightness and such) were fair to good, certainly acceptable. Can't say what the sound is like of course. Not surprising that the price keeps going down, I just wonder what the people who had glowing reviews of it were looking at.

Ah well at least returing it won't cost me a thing, not even the very low s&h since it's defective. Lucked out I guess :) I suppose I'll have to just make more of an effort to put together my diy parts :)

Sounds about right, as that's what anyone who even knows next to nothing about video would guess with knowing only the resolution of these PJs. However, I would say that if I could find one for less than a hundred bucks then I'd probably pull the trigger. For the kids to watch... drinking, cards and football in the garage with the guys... outdoor entertainment for kids and adults at the summer BBQ...
That's a lot of entertainment for less than a hundred clams. :)

Well I registered to give you a quick review of this toy. I do stress it is a toy, BUT......It was worth the 150 bux I paid for it at Wally World.
I have never owned a projector, or even one of the newer flat panel type tvs. I have a 32" Sharp CRT...so I am really a newbie at this stuff.
We saw these advertised before Christmas for $250-$300 depending on where U looked. I joked with my 14 yo son about getting him one, but after reading about the resolution and tech specs opted not to. Well tonight we were strolling thru Wal-Mart and saw this lone unit marked down to $157. So seeing as how they have a return policy we thought what the heck.
I took a plain white sheet and stretched across the wall....I then set the unit up about 10 feet back. We played with it a little bit, focused and set the brightness etc, etc. We connected a set of powered PC speakers to get the volume up.
With it being that far back the screen size is approx 84". We turned off all the lights and made it darn near pitch black. Voile! We just got finished watching Lady in The Water....it wasn't the awesome hd experience I have read about with so many high end prjectors...I didn't expect that...but it was pretty decent. It was bright enough and even though it was pretty pixelated it wasn't horribly distracting. My son has been playing Halo 2 with it. We love the heck out of it! If U want something really portable and ready to go...for less than $200...then this is it. Don't dog me about how crappy it is....I know it isn't one of those HD DLP High Lumens ....blah blah blah.....It is FUN! Now if I had one of those expensive units prior to this....I probably wouldn't like it....but...it is a start....
btw...I wasn't drunk ;)
Tanks....

And there you have it, folks.

Tanksta, welcome to the forums and thanks for the review. Sounds a little more promising than the reviews from "videofiles". Of course as far as projectors in general, this thing is a POS, BUT... I think as soon as I can get one for around a hundred bucks then I'm in for some fun.

Tanksta, welcome to the forums and thanks for the review. Sounds a little more promising than the reviews from "videofiles". Of course as far as projectors in general, this thing is a POS, BUT... I think as soon as I can get one for around a hundred bucks then I'm in for some fun.

Thanks for the welcome. Yeah....to the uneducated eye it is ok. I saw some screen caps from some of the good units that members have here. I can see why they don't like it. But...again...it really is more of a toy and not meant to compete with those units. We will use it until we scrape up some more dough and graduate to a real pj. :D

When the price drops to around $99 in a few months, I'll probably pick one up. Why not? I'll then go to town hacking the thing with a new brighter bulb and maybe even try putting in a new LCD from some broken garbage I have laying around :) hehehe.

I can understand why some people would make fun of this item when it's selling for $200+, but when it drops to $99 (and it will) it'll make a good DIY project!

tech-bum

Hi Tanksta, thanks for the review. I went to pack up mine for returning last night and figured I'd give it one more shot after reading your post.

The sound was still not there so it's going back but going big like you did, on a small daylite screen (what would fit and in full dark of course) I was more impressed than the first quick look on a white wall. In fact after a few minutes of movie watching I had forgotten about the pixellation. I think it would be quite acceptable for movies and TV as I said first time around.

But, I got this as much for gaming as anything else, and reading that your son was enjoying H2 on it I gave that a try again too. It was just way too dark most of the time. Even moving the screen closer didn't help much. And reading the menu and hud was near impossible too with the low resolution. I wonder if maybe the manufacturing tolerances are so loose that you get some with better focus than others?

Look forward to seeing what you do with it tech-bum. I may yet do the same depending on how my return goes (if they credit my card or offer a replacement).

The picture quality looks pretty bad, i know the screenshots probably look worse than video. Would be good if there was more compitition in the <$500 price range though

IN72 is $399 after $200 coupon code and $200 MIR and will blow this thing out of the water. Plus they give you 92" screen.

Hi, I joined this forum just to state that I'm 14 and I've used this Zoombox (as a matter of fact, own it) and although most of what you guys say is true, it is still pretty cool. I watched tv on it today, watched 2 movies, and played games on it. Considering that it took me about 10 minutes to get the machine focused correctly, it was still awesome. Yes, I agree, the resolution does need to be higher. I was able to notice the dots and things that didn't belong, but I can deal with it. So overall, I would give this machine an 8/10. Just because it's something for kids and it has meaning.

Well there it is. A young man likes it and that's who it's marketed for, so i guess it's somewhat of a success.

On a side note, it is nice to see that at least Hasbro is trying...even if it is on a sub-par level. Front projection for the masses!!

Welcom to the forum, Gafford. Never too early to get into HT. I agree that it's great that Hasbro made it affordable for more people to get into HT. So what if it's not the best. It's still good for what it was intended--cheap bulb, cheap PJ for more people to get into front projection, and user friendly. This unit can be on sale for $150 (Sams Club had it for $119 12/26/06) or less and bulb is less than $10 for 1000 hours (halogen, avail at hardware store).

...(Sams Club had it for $119 12/26/06)...

:eek: News to me. I wish someone would have posted it when it was at that price. Oh well. Now waiting for a good promo. How about $99 + 2 free dvds? :D

Thanks for the welcome, Huey. I'll try and stay active on this forum. Too bad I can't use it doing the day time. Thats usually when I have friends over. All the rooms in my house get tooooo much light. :( Oh well, I'll think of something. But once again, thanks for the welcome. By the way, what does HT mean? :o

I think we may be missing the point here. This PJ is intended to be a toy. It was never meant to be marketed to videophiles. It might be decent for kids or drunken dorm room parties, but if you want to build a home theater you probably aren't getting off to a good start by cutting corners. That being said, I would still like to try one for myself. for $150 bucks this thing aint to bad...anything more than $200 and your way better off getting a used 480p projector

My son picked one up at Sam's following Christmas, a returned one with a broken bulb. Hasboro is sending us two new bulbs. He paid $49.51. I hope it works when the bulbs come in for under$50 he should have fun. By the way he's 10 years old.

IN72 is $399 after $200 coupon code and $200 MIR and will blow this thing out of the water. Plus they give you 92" screen.

Can you PM this offer? TIA.

Can you PM this offer? TIA.

I think that offer has expired now. Maybe someone else can confirm.

Thanks for the welcome, Huey. I'll try and stay active on this forum. Too bad I can't use it doing the day time. Thats usually when I have friends over. All the rooms in my house get tooooo much light. :( Oh well, I'll think of something. But once again, thanks for the welcome. By the way, what does HT mean? :o

Gafford,

HT means Home Theater.

Welcome to the forum.

Oh, ok, that makes since. Thanks! :) :cool:

Was the light output spec'ed so that a child peering into the lens would not have his eyesight damaged? Yes, a big constraint on light output.

At 234 pixel vertical resolution it would not need a good de-interlacer.

Does it actually use a single panel LCD such as in a digital camera viewfinder, with side by side red, green, and blue pixels?

A few years ago I was given an LCD projector with exterior shape like a loaf of bread. It had a single panel with side by side pixels arranged similarly to phosphor dot triads on a direct view CRT. It was approximately 640x480 with about 215 of each color pixel on each row. It gave a definitely pixellated picture due to the low fill ratio aka pronounced non-rectangular grid screen door effect. I sold it on eBay for a coupl'a hundred dollars.

I replaced the 35w bulb with a 50w I picked up off of ebay. Made a little difference, not drastic. Kids still like it. Me....well it has made me want to buy a better one. It is cool to have an 8 ft TV!

What bulb does it use? Can you show a picture or a link? Thanks in advance.

I replaced the 35w bulb with a 50w I picked up off of ebay. Made a little difference, not drastic. Kids still like it. Me....well it has made me want to buy a better one. It is cool to have an 8 ft TV!

Wow, that's weird. You'd think that if they could use a 50w without it getting TOO hot, then they'd just use that instead of the 35w. Have you noticed it getting too hot at all??

It is cool to have an 8 ft TV!

Yes it is.

Enjoy.

If only it was 640X480!!!!!!!! I would be all over that!

.............. and if it only had HDMI!!!

If only it was 640X480!!!!!!!! I would be all over that!

Time will come...