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Jediphish
02-01-09, 02:26 PM
well i offered the seller $100, he was asking $140. it's a 50' Key Digital Cable which after searching this thread, is the only pre-made cable that's been recommended. 50' is more than i need, but the price is right. After looking at the wiki page, DVI-I tramsits digital and analog and DVI-D is digital only. I believe that the link between the media reciever and the monitor is digital only, so I suspect I should be ok.

Yes, I agree with your thinking that DVI-D should be just fine since the display is digital. I guess the only reason analog would be needed would be for connecting a VHS player to the media receiver or perhaps viewing an analog TV station via the internal NTSC tuner (whose functionality becomes nil in a few weeks or months depending on Congresses actions).

The Hornet
02-26-09, 07:30 PM
Hi there folks,

Say, I'd like to know how many of the people that posted on here, still own there Pioneer Plasmas...either the 4360 or 5060, and are you still happy with it?

I've had mine for nearly 3 years now, and am very happy with it, other than the fact that I wish it didn't have the Media Receiver, and the Blacks aren't as great as the newer models that came out in later years. Speaking of which, does anyone know the foot lambert reading of these plasmas? I read the new Kuros have a Black Level of about .004fl.

If you don't have your 4360/5060, did you purchase another Plasma? and if so, what did you get to replace it? or add another one to your collection? I am currently looking for another Flat Panel TV to put in our bedroom...I even looked & researched the LCD TV's but there were just too many things about them I did like, so I am looking at the Panasonic & Samsung Plasmas for my "Bedroom TV"

Let's hear from you!

scanido
02-26-09, 08:06 PM
I'm still using my trusty PDP-5060. It's been a great plasma over the 3 and half years. If i hadn't known about all the buzz about super deep blacks, then I wouldn't even think about upgrading it. It's a great plasma and there is no hint of brightness deterioration.

The Hornet
02-26-09, 08:17 PM
I'm still using my trusty PDP-5060. It's been a great plasma over the 3 and half years. If i hadn't known about all the buzz about super deep blacks, then I wouldn't even think about upgrading it. It's a great plasma and there is no hint of brightness deterioration.

Good to hear/read scanido. About how many hours do you think you have on the set now? I have about 12,000.

Actually, if I would have had my set calibrated, I suppose I could get even a bit deeper blacks out of my set, but it's very good...IMHO. Not Kuro black maybe, but good for me.

newlinux
02-26-09, 08:48 PM
I have over 25000 hours on my set, and it is still good. (pdp-4360). I also have a bedroom newer LN32a450 from samsung and it compares favorably to my pioneer. No plans to replace it until it doesn't work well anymore.

nicholasmcgrew
02-26-09, 09:02 PM
I still have my 4360. I've had NO problems with it. (knock on wood :D )

I kinda liked the media center at first, but now I'd be just as happy without it there. I wish it had true 1080p but then I'd have to buy a Blu-ray! This 3 year old TV still looks nicer than the bedroom Tosh, my parent's LG, and even my friends' new Sony.

In a few years I'll get a new Kuro, but I won't throw this one away for sure. :)

jtharveyjr
02-26-09, 09:05 PM
I have two PDP-5060s and both are working flawlessly!

I used to have minor image burn due to gameplay but once I switched to a different set, the image burn gradually disappeared.

I do believe that the LED LCDs and the Kuro may have deeper blacks but for the vast majority of television viewing, the PDP continues to be a great investment after almost 3.5 years.

giomania
02-27-09, 08:56 AM
I have had mine for just under 3 years. I recently replaced it with a Kuro, and moved it to the bedroom. Now, the media receiver has come in handy, as I have a closet behind the wall where the panel is mounted.

I have a voltage regulator, the media receiver, DVD player, HD-DVR, and satellite receiver on the shelves in the closet. It worked out beatuifully.

Mark

newlinux
02-27-09, 10:55 AM
I have had mine for just under 3 years. I recently replaced it with a Kuro, and moved it to the bedroom. Now, the media receiver has come in handy, as I have a closet behind the wall where the panel is mounted.

I have a voltage regulator, the media receiver, DVD player, HD-DVR, and satellite receiver on the shelves in the closet. It worked out beatuifully.

Mark

The media receiver was actually one of the reasons I bought this TV. My AVR doesn't have HDMI connections (its 8 years old) and I keep my HTPC, Satellite receiver, and other equipment away from my TV in a Home Theater rack. works well for me too..

DNbass
02-27-09, 01:09 PM
I'm about 3 years with my 1130, and, no plans on replacing as my "main" TV. Sure our panels aren't 1080p, but I'm quite satisfied with it's performance and I think they have a design that's held up well. I have my HT equipment on a rack to the side so the media receiver was an added bonus (so nothing below/around the TV except speakers).

I do plan on getting an LCD for the "TV Room".

a_ok2me
02-27-09, 11:41 PM
I'm about 3 years with my 1130, and, no plans on replacing as my "main" TV. Sure our panels aren't 1080p, but I'm quite satisfied with it's performance and I think they have a design that's held up well. I have my HT equipment on a rack to the side so the media receiver was an added bonus (so nothing below/around the TV except speakers).

I do plan on getting an LCD for the "TV Room".Personally, 1080p and Blu-Ray on a 50" is overkill. I replaced my 1130 with a 151FD and 1080p and Blu-Ray on the 60" only makes it look as sharp as the 50".

jimrobinette
03-02-09, 12:28 AM
....

In a few years I'll get a new Kuro, but I won't throw this one away for sure. :)

Nicholas,

Better move quick, as Pioneer expects to be out of the plasma game by the summer!

Take care,

Jim

htgeek2
03-02-09, 03:13 PM
I have not been able to force 1080p/24 from my BDP-S550 to my PDP-4361 (Manufacture date Aug 2005)! Is there a firmware update for this?

angedc
03-04-09, 02:22 PM
I've had my 5060 for about three years and I've very happy with it. But now I have blu-ray. Also, I need another TV for the basement, as a secondary tv mainly for the kids. My wife says, get a 42" new one for the basement .

But I'm thinking, get the new one for upstairs, the main viewing room. But what should I get? I want to stay 50" or go a bit bigger. I don't want to spring another 5k for a Kuro.

teekster
03-04-09, 11:38 PM
I've had my 5060 for about three years and I've very happy with it. But now I have blu-ray. Also, I need another TV for the basement, as a secondary tv mainly for the kids. My wife says, get a 42" new one for the basement .

But I'm thinking, get the new one for upstairs, the main viewing room. But what should I get? I want to stay 50" or go a bit bigger. I don't want to spring another 5k for a Kuro.

A 50" Kuro can be had for WAY less than $5000.

teekster
03-15-09, 09:57 PM
Are any of you guys experiencing audio stuttering/ dropouts? I have a 930hd and just recently noticed this. Occasionally, every 5 or so seconds, the audio drops out, regardless of the source. If I cycle the standby button on the media receiver, the problem goes away.

Is my media box dying?

ty87sig
04-02-09, 11:11 AM
Is anyone experiencing a problem with the 5060 defaulting to "wide" mode. I prefer to watch most programming in "full" mode. If I change the channel or check the program guide it returns to "wide" mode and I have to step through the modes to get back to "full". Very annoying and Pioneer says they have never heard of the problem. I have varied all menu settings and have not been able to resolve. Any ideas?

DNbass
04-02-09, 12:01 PM
I can't speak for 5060, but when watching (comcast) programs on my 1130, HD channels default to Full, and others to Wide. Could this be what you are experiencing, or, when your TV switches to Wide, it remains on Wide and never back to Full?

ty87sig
04-02-09, 12:50 PM
When watching on antenna, it is defaulting any X.1 channels to wide. If I change channels or open the guide, it resets to wide. I can switch between non X.1 channels without loosing the full setting.

giomania
04-02-09, 01:30 PM
I can't speak for 5060, but when watching (comcast) programs on my 1130, HD channels default to Full, and others to Wide. Could this be what you are experiencing, or, when your TV switches to Wide, it remains on Wide and never back to Full?

What setting activates that? My 1130 does not set SD channels to wide, but I would like it to.

Thanks.

Mark

ty87sig
04-02-09, 01:59 PM
I dont' think there is a setting and if there were, I would shut it off. I dont know why you would want that he image is stretched and the picture quality isnt as good as Full.

Jediphish
04-02-09, 02:54 PM
What setting activates that? My 1130 does not set SD channels to wide, but I would like it to.

Thanks.

Mark

Home Menu --> Option --> 4:3 MODE ... you have the option of either WIDE or 4:3 for SD programming. For me this option only applies to signals coming into the media receiver from other components; it never seems to apply to programming received via the OTA antenna.

There's also a setting for auto-aspect control or to have it "lock" on whatever aspect ratio you left it on the last time you were on a particular resolution/input combination. If using the auto-aspect control, the screen mode will be reflected in the upper right hand corner of the screen in "GREEN" text instead of WHITE.

ty87sig
04-02-09, 05:02 PM
Thanks. It is in 4:3 mode. I will try the aspect control, I am not sure which setting that is on.

giomania
04-03-09, 03:59 PM
Home Menu --> Option --> 4:3 MODE ... you have the option of either WIDE or 4:3 for SD programming. For me this option only applies to signals coming into the media receiver from other components; it never seems to apply to programming received via the OTA antenna.

There's also a setting for auto-aspect control or to have it "lock" on whatever aspect ratio you left it on the last time you were on a particular resolution/input combination. If using the auto-aspect control, the screen mode will be reflected in the upper right hand corner of the screen in "GREEN" text instead of WHITE.

Thanks; that is what I am using, but I am using a DVR via HDMI, and it does not stretch it automatically. I have this TV in my bedroom, and watch "World Focus", which is in 4:3.

Not a big deal, really. A couple of button pushes fixes it.

Mark

nicholasmcgrew
04-07-09, 10:57 AM
Howdy All,

I've had my 4360 since December 2006. It's been a heck of a TV, with no real problems . . .

Until yesterday that is. In the morning, I turned on the TV and had no cable (Mediacon) reception. No locals, no syndicates, nothing. Both TVs were like this. After work I get home and the bedroom TV is back to normal, but the 4360 is still hosed up. I run a rescan and get 4 channels. I have 70 or 80 normally. The 4 channels I get are local CBS, local PBS, local CW, and one other cable channel. No digital channels, and 2 of those 4 are mapped wrong.

I searched and unplugged everything for a couple minutes and rescanned . . . same results. It's weird because Sunday night everything was peachy, in fact the time updated correctly and the TVGOS was finally back to normal. However yesterday the time was behind an hour.

ANT B works fine, and the DVR works fine. I have a splitter where Leg A goes to ANT A and Leg B goes to the DVR and then to ANT B. I will remove the splitter, but I kinda doubt thats my problem.

For once in my life, I did buy an extended warranty, and it's gone in December. I may get desperate and call Pioneer, because their website was no help.

Sorry about the long post; any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

nicholasmcgrew
04-08-09, 08:39 AM
BUMP.

The splitter isn't a trouble. I also hooked up the antenna last night and pulled in all channels just fine. Is there any difference in the hardware of a QAM and ATSC tuner? I would think if it tunes from the antenna it should tune from my cable.

Thanks. I appreciate any advice.

Eman79
04-27-09, 11:18 PM
My HDMI inputs suddenly went out... any suggestions?

eelton
04-28-09, 05:33 AM
My HDMI inputs suddenly went out... any suggestions?Well, you could use component instead. There's a general consensus that the image quality is indistinguishable from HDMI, despite the theoretical advantages of the latter.

giomania
04-28-09, 08:07 AM
My HDMI inputs suddenly went out... any suggestions?

Try unplugging the power cord for 30 seconds, if you haven't already.

Mark

nicholasmcgrew
04-30-09, 02:10 PM
UPDATE.

I had the tech come out on Monday and after a while and a call to Pioneer, they determined (guessed) that my tuner was bad. He came out this morning and replaced it . . . SUCCESS!

Only product in my life I've bought the ext. warranty for and I actually used it! :D

The Hornet
04-30-09, 04:22 PM
Ok, I have a question for all of you 4360/5060 owners. Is it possible to connect a USB flash drive to these TV sets directly? And if so, what connection and cable (and where to get it) do you use?

My other TV has a USB connection, but these TV's preceeded that, evidently. My HTIB also doesn't have a USB connection, and I don't want to purchase another one. I've got to believe, one of the connections on the Media Receiver will work for this, won't it?

Edllguy
05-18-09, 11:04 AM
Will my Elite Pro930 (smaller brother of Pro1130) have sound come through the supplied speakers if I feed it a Blu-ray movie with a PS3 or BDP-51 player?

The reason I ask is most blu-ray movies now only have DTS Master audio as the default and english sound setting available. Dolby Digital 5.1 in not an option anymore unless you want it in French or Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1

Thanks

Edit: Wanting to Downgrade DTS Master audio to 2 channel audio should be factored in my question. It it possible?

twb311
06-03-09, 10:20 PM
Hi All - I have had my PDP4360 for over three years now and it has worked like a champ.

This week, I lost all HD Audio and Video from my OTA amplified antenna on input A.

Input B (cable) works fine.

I still have audio and video for all non-HD channels OTA on input A.

But any HD channel I select on input A is black screen and no sound. In most cases (but not all), the listing of the program shows and the time of day shows.

I have tried the following:
- Unplugged the TV overnight.
- Disconnect and reconnected all input A wiring
- Checked signal strength of antenna (low of '47' high of '70')
- Rescanned all channels (it finds the same channels)

Called Pioneer Tech Support, they told me to do everything I already did. Then they suggested a service tech come out and look at the set. I fear the worst, perhaps my HD tuner is out?

Anybody else experience this or have any suggestions?

Much appreciated - twb311

augmental
07-09-09, 04:08 AM
Hey, I realize I am over a month late on the response (DOH!!!) but I would try this for your 4360 woes -

1) Highlight CHANGE SYSTEM SETTINGS from within the TV Guide
2) Enter 653274147

This will effectively power cycle the panel. I have to do this with my 5060 from time to time. I still love the set to this day, but it is getting grey hair, haha...I bet those d*mn Kuros are nice

scanido
08-28-09, 01:03 PM
Hate to bring this thread up, but one of my nephews just reset my picture settings on my PDP-5060.

I cannot locate any reference settings. Need help!

Thanks!!

sdrucker
09-21-09, 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Eman79
My HDMI inputs suddenly went out... any suggestions?

Try unplugging the power cord for 30 seconds, if you haven't already.

Mark


I've been having HDMI problems with my Denon 5910 and my Pro-930HD for several years. The HDMI connection (Input 3) only seems to work sporadically after leaving the Media Receiver unplugged for 30 minutes or more, and only when the Pioneer's HDMI setting is Disabled, then Enabled, and after cycling through the Video pulldown settings. It will play DVDs until the DVD player is turned off or the input is changed, at which point we lose HDMI again. The 5910 set up for your more or less standard NTSC, HDMI input output of signals.

The whole thing is weird because we rarely, if ever, have HDMI or Component problems with our HD TIVO. Incidentally, we replicated the problem with a cheapo Oppo player, and went through two Media Receivers, with the same thing happening. The only way to watch DVDs with this set seems to be going to S-Video or old-style RCA Video inputs, which is extremely annoying.


The problem's distracting enough that we're thinking of buying one a smaller resolution 40" Samsung (We're limited physically to about a 44" wide set,) so we can get the full benefit of the 5910's upscaling. Does anyone one have any idea of how we can get a more stable HDMI picture? Or have a line on a PRO-950HD out of the box....

gbriank
10-17-09, 11:28 PM
Coming up on 3.5 years of ownership and am impressed (although, the market has COMPLETELY changed...with the $3000 I spent, I could get a 55" LED TV now...)

yethong
10-28-09, 01:00 AM
Hi everyone,

I have this problem on my PDP-4360 plasma and need your expertise advise. If my plasma is not turn on for a day, when I turn it on, I will lose all my program listing ( It just a black screen with no sound and display ) I don't even can watch my DVD movie from the plasma. The only way to have the display back is to unplug the power from the wall and replug in again. Then I will start to see my tv listing and also DVD movie. Sometimes, it will lost all my channel and I have to do a manual TV listing setup again in order to get back all the channels. First I thought it was due to my antenna but I have switch to several digital antenna but the problem seems not solved. I don't have any cable TV connected to my TV and I just view my local channel by using digital antenna. Has anyone encounter this problem before? Please advise, thank you very very much for your help.

Regards,
Tan