Finally got the break in disk figured out....I was about 90 hours into break in just with regular TV viewing...mostly Discovery HD and other random shows trying as best as I could to avoid black bars or standing logos for long periods of time.

You think all will be good still if I run the break in disk for another 60-110 hours or so....and than after that just watch TV as normal without any concerns?

That'll be fine. You can watch tv during that break in time too if you'd like.

IS there a way to tell how many hours you have viewed on your Panny TV?
Or do you have to just write down the amount of hours you view and just count them up?

Find the thread that deals with your model Panny. Very good chance those instructions are in that thread.

IS there a way to tell how many hours you have viewed on your Panny TV?
Or do you have to just write down the amount of hours you view and just count them up?

There is a way to view the hours, but you have to go into some service menu that's a pain in the butt to get to and not an area that tinkering by an owner should be done as can cause trouble.

Easier to just write it down and keep track that way.

So what's the magic number of hours for break-in for Plasma (Pio in my case)?

100, 150 or 200?

TIA,

cheers

So what's the magic number of hours for break-in for Plasma (Pio in my case)?

100, 150 or 200?

TIA,

cheers

I don't think there's a "magic number"......100 hours is minimum and anything over 200 hours is overkill. So, I'd say 150 hours is a safe bet, but if you have the patience than go for 200 hours.

My strategy was to do 100 hours on the burn in disc before watching much of anything, and now will just be a bit wary of static images, black bars etc. for another month or so.

Of course, calibrating the set properly with Avia or DVE is crucial as well, as having brightness and contrast at appropriate levels (i.e. not too high) is the most important thing.

does this disc really help? won'T the repeating patterns strain the display or something like that? do you recommend to use this or is there something better to break in the display?

The disc will help. The consensus is that full screen, alternating colors are the best way to break in the sets.

Strain is the point, as you want to age the cells quickly the first 100-200 hour so permanent IR becomes a near non-existent risk. The new cells are much more prone to burn in.

Bright colors are a good way to do this, and being full screen they are all being aged evenly which is something you won't get from normal TV/DVD viewing.

does this disc really help? won'T the repeating patterns strain the display or something like that? do you recommend to use this or is there something better to break in the display?

From all that I've read the disk is the best way to break it in because there is never any worry of black bars or standing logos and the changing colors drives all pixels evenly.

The latest news out about break in is to actually set your color settings at optimal (or even a tad higher) levels while break in because you want to drive all of your pixels early while being cognicent of avoiding black bars and logos. Setting color levels low actually delays the total break in process because later on when at optimal settings and there are bars or logos the brightness at that time will overpower the lower level of pixels driven during break in. Makes sense, and how I've been doing my Break In.

would displaying the BREAK in DVD using my PC with DVI --> cable be the same thing as if i ran it on a dvd?

I can run the image file on my pc and have it display on my set instead of burning it on a dvd, do u guys think that this is alright to do?

should be allright as long as there ar eno messages that get popped up on the screen and stay there when you are not around. Also, make sure that the titels transition correctly (happens at around the 45 minute mark of each title. If that transition works then you should be good.
-Evaneglo2
PS. Make sure the entire screen is filled and there are no static overlays from windows.
-Evangelo2

Sorry if this question is repeated earlier....I tried to read as much as I could.

When setting up to burn the NRG file with Nero 7, it lets me "preview" the disc (prior to burning) using a "remote control' that's on the screen. I'm getting black bars at the top and bottom and a flickering of all colors extremely fast. The documentation said it'd be 30 seconds of one color and then it would change.

What am I doing wrong?

The preview while watching in Nero may be be a fast forward preview just so you can see what you are about to burn.

What happens after you burn it and play it in your dvd player? If there are black bars you should be able to stretch or zoom with your dvd player or the tv so the bars aren't there.

You see black bars in Nerop because this is a 16x9 disc and the nero preview is 4:3 if I remember correctly.
-Evangelo2

The preview while watching in Nero may be be a fast forward preview just so you can see what you are about to burn.

What happens after you burn it and play it in your dvd player? If there are black bars you should be able to stretch or zoom with your dvd player or the tv so the bars aren't there.

When I burned the DVD, I got the exact same pattern. The preview was not slow motion. It had a real-time timer on it as it flickered.

Not sure what to do as the countdown is at 4 hours until I get the 58" 750U.

I've had my Pioneer 50" Plasma PDP5060 since November 2005. I've just noticed now that in the bottom right hand corner, I can see a FOX logo if the screen is white.

If I run the break-in DVD for 50, 100 or 200 hours, will this remove the fox logo? or because I already had my TV for over a year and half is there no way to remove this logo?

Try it and see. Actually just watching other moving content should remove the IR over time if it is truly IR.

Kr8z1 is right Chem. Just try to watching moving content and try to avoid that same FOX static logo there.
I am working on something that may be able to help you but Im not sure exactly when it will be ready as time to work onthis stuff is hard to come by :)
-Evangelo2

When I burned the DVD, I got the exact same pattern. The preview was not slow motion. It had a real-time timer on it as it flickered.

Not sure what to do as the countdown is at 4 hours until I get the 58" 750U.

Well, I have the TV all installed. Fantastic picture! Now if I could just get the break-in DVD to work, I'd be set.

All I'm getting pre-burning and post-burning the DVD is flashes of colors for about 3 mintues and then a black screen. I used Nero 7 to burn it after downloading the NRG file, unzipping, and loading it into Nero Vision.

Ideas???

I used NeroExpress6 and burned the video_ts files (after unzipping) using the "DVD Video Files" option.

I will be receiving my 5080 next week, with my 4270 i just turned down contrast and used movie mode and its doing great.whats the benefit of dvd, and how important is this break-in dvd?????? Pioneer tech in Calif. said not needed, but i'm open??? thank you

Not needed if you are patient and following the standard break in viewing directions for the first 100-150 hours. This means no static overlays for long times and no black bars. For me to watch 150 hours of TV takes more than 2 months. I finished breaking in my plasma in a week using the disc (football season was rapidly approaching and I had to be able to handle static score overlays :) )
-Evangelo2

Before I use the burn-in dvd should I use avia/dve to calibrate my settings? Or is it the other way around? I'm confused. I know that i need to turn down brightness/contrass regardless.

Scotty, use Avia/dve after,and the protocool is to turn up the settings not down...

I think this was answered somewhere previously; however, I cannot find it: If a use/run the burn-in disk 24/7 should I be concerned about anything such as heat, ect.?

hi i would like to know more details about the break in dvd, I have no clue how long i should leave the disc running weather or not i should turn it off or let it run without turnning it off And which brand of dvd players to use? due to some lower priced dvd players not having certain fuctions etc etc

i know how to burn dvds in the iso formate but after i burn it is where im lost

I thought you have to put the contrast and picture down? I have most of my settings on 0....I've been breaking it in for a few days now 12-14 hrs/day.

Still looking for some help so that I can load this on to my AppleTV for the "Break-In"

Any chance that someone could put this in a QuickTime/.mp4 format so that I could put this on my Apple TV?

Thanks,

You have to rip & then transcode a DVD then stream or sync it to the Apple TV. Stuff that is all new to me...

Video formats supported:
H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps, 960 by 540 pixels at 30 fps)

MPEG-4: Up to 3 Mbps, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 720 by 432 pixels at 30 fps)

Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps); protected AAC (from iTunes Store); MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps); MP3 VBR; Apple Lossless; AIFF; WAV

TV compatibility
Enhanced-definition or high-definition widescreen TVs capable of 1080i 60/50Hz, 720p 60/50Hz, 576p 50Hz (PAL format), or 480p 60Hz

Alright so I messed up... I had the dvd in and had to zoom my dvd player (completely didn't think about zoom on the tv), so that I did not have upper and lower black bars. I know this dvd is supposed to run for 16 hours, but the way my burned, don't think that happened. So I set my dvd player on repeat without paying attention that the zoom function may possibly disable itself.

I had this running while I was asleep, woke up this morning to see black bars at the top and bottom. I put the tv's zoom function on and of course could easily see where the black bars had been.

I had watched TV before going to bed for about 4 hours. Got the TV yesterday so was my first time watching, 4 hours old before using dvd (yes, I was careful with static images).

Am I doomed? I still have the dvd running hoping this will help fix the problem. Would anywhere from 4-6 hours be enough to jack up the tv for good?

Thanks for the help, and try not to laugh at me very hard. :(

gpank,
I dont think your doomed but try and watch moving images. It may take a while for the brightness differences to fade but you should be ok.
Post your DVD Player model here so if someone else has the same player they can avoid doing this.
-Evangelo2

I was hoping as much, good deal. Thanks, Evangelo!

I have my 3 year old Philips DVP642 DivX-Certified Progressive-Scan DVD Player running it.

Yeah, probably need a new dvd player. Use the xbox 360 for now with movies, didn't want it running the break-in dvd for long times.

Thanks again.

Alright so I messed up... I had the dvd in and had to zoom my dvd player (completely didn't think about zoom on the tv), so that I did not have upper and lower black bars. I know this dvd is supposed to run for 16 hours, but the way my burned, don't think that happened. So I set my dvd player on repeat without paying attention that the zoom function may possibly disable itself.

I had this running while I was asleep, woke up this morning to see black bars at the top and bottom. I put the tv's zoom function on and of course could easily see where the black bars had been.

I had watched TV before going to bed for about 4 hours. Got the TV yesterday so was my first time watching, 4 hours old before using dvd (yes, I was careful with static images).

Am I doomed? I still have the dvd running hoping this will help fix the problem. Would anywhere from 4-6 hours be enough to jack up the tv for good?

Thanks for the help, and try not to laugh at me very hard. :(



Instead of running the whole DVD content, pause the DVD player on the "WHITE" image and let it play for couple hours. That'll be a quicker way to get rid of the uneven phosphorus wear caused by the black bars.


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i thought that too,but read some other threads that lower settings just take longer to break in the PDP,and that you want settings a little higher than normal ,now turn them up..

i just started using the dvd-r breakin dvd on my panny dvd-f85 (480p via component). is there any difference in breakin by using upconvert dvd player and hdmi connection?

in other words, am i breaking in all the pixels of my 720p plasma using 480p player?

As long as your 480p image is widescreen and there are nop black bars (ie all pixels are lit) then it is the same thing.
-Evangelo2

Two questions:
1. My DVD player only outputs 480i (it's old, what can I say?). It's set to 16:9 aspect ratio though. The TV is showing the full screen in color during the break-in so I'm assuming this is ok even though it's a 480i stream? I have a Pio 5080 that I received today.

2. When burning the DVD, DVD Decrypter says the DVD is only 48 minutes long. I'll probably find out before anyone posts a response what happens at the 48 minute mark but I'm wondering if the DVD just sits there and repeats itself or if it stops. Is it really only 48 minutes long? The website says it should be 24 hours.

Thanks,
RM
PS - am using the break-in settings from D-NICE at thread #858851
PPS - am using a Toshiba SD-H400 - the old Tivo Series 2 + DVD player combo.

Ok, so it looks like the DVD *is* only 45-47 minutes long or so (I didn't catch the exact time). The DVD then started playing from the beginning again at 00:00.

I'll take the chance that this should work the whole night through and go to bed with the TV and DVD running.

Thanks to all who put this together. It is much appreciated!

-RM

Ok, so it looks like the DVD *is* only 45-47 minutes long or so (I didn't catch the exact time). The DVD then started playing from the beginning again at 00:00.

I'll take the chance that this should work the whole night through and go to bed with the TV and DVD running.

Thanks to all who put this together. It is much appreciated!

-RM

Yeah, DVD I burned (using the iso and dvd decrypter) is also around the same time. I'm gonna run it on repeat when I get the plasma (just testing it out on my LCD right now). Can't wait!

Hi RobOnLI and osiris3mc,
Each title on the DVD is in fact 45 minutes long. It will play again because there are multiple titles each 45 minutes long. That is why it is a key thing to test this disc with your DVD player before you start using it. Start playing it at the 44 minute mark and make sure that after the 45 minute mark it starts all over again. If it does this you should be ok. The DVD version should be food for 24 hours (although I never let it play for more than 16 straight myself since by then I usually ended up watching some TV or giving the set a rest).
-Evangelo2

Hi RobOnLI and osiris3mc,
Each title on the DVD is in fact 45 minutes long. It will play again because there are multiple titles each 45 minutes long. That is why it is a key thing to test this disc with your DVD player before you start using it. Start playing it at the 44 minute mark and make sure that after the 45 minute mark it starts all over again. If it does this you should be ok. The DVD version should be food for 24 hours (although I never let it play for more than 16 straight myself since by then I usually ended up watching some TV or giving the set a rest).
-Evangelo2
Thanks for the (slightly late) reply :) I'm already through with my TV burn-in.

Just FYI that the DVD ran flawlessly for 4.5 straight days with no problem. It just kept cycling through.

Thx,
RM

I am sorry, but I have never read that a Plasma or any tv needs an extensive burn in of the primary colors and greys. In fact I have heard by reading the Frequently asked question section on OEM web sites where they have said no burn in is necessary. I have in principle run a tv or computer when I first get if for a day or two of what ever is on the tv. On the computer having a screen saver since otherwise no change occurs on the screen. Maybe for a couple of days, but never for 1000 hours as suggested in a couple of posts. Where does this stuff come from? I am not saying that the person is not correct, but I would like to review the source that suggests such extensive use.

Manny

I am sorry, but I have never read that a Plasma or any tv needs an extensive burn in of the primary colors and greys. In fact I have heard by reading the Frequently asked question section on OEM web sites where they have said no burn in is necessary. I have in principle run a tv or computer when I first get if for a day or two of what ever is on the tv. On the computer having a screen saver since otherwise no change occurs on the screen. Maybe for a couple of days, but never for 1000 hours as suggested in a couple of posts. Where does this stuff come from? I am not saying that the person is not correct, but I would like to review the source that suggests such extensive use.

Manny

1000 hours seems a bit excessive to me as well. I've seen that twice, but the manufacture of my set (a Sammy 5054) suggests a 100 hour break in period. Ithink the manufacturer would know a little more about their sets then us hobbyists - or so you would think.

However, I did download this DVD - have ran it for about two hours total. Staying up a bit right now to make sure it cycles through a bit - but if this disk shuts off in the middle of the night I'm screwed - as I'll have my Sony DVD logo burned into the screen (and I don't want that!!!).

So after about another hour or so when I go to bed - I'll turn the disk off. Can't see how 1000 hours of 'breakin' is necessary - I would like to read why specifically this is.

I think 1000 hours is not necessary. I think the manufacturers all sayy 100 hours (*maybe* Panny said 150 but I cant remember right now).
-Evangelo2

i just downloaded the image, thanks for putting in a dvd-r form. but my question is, a friend of mine told me that instead of the break in dvd, to leave Discovery HD on for a few days and that'll break it in just as well. what is your opinion on this?

Discovery HD is good as well. They used to remove there logo pretty quickly. I haven't noticed in a while if they still do that. I avoided this myself because if something goes wrong with the DiscoveryHD feed then I may get some error message (hello "Searching For Satellite" DirecTV message :) ). I found my DVD player was more dependable after I verified that it made it past the title jumps (45 minute mark).
Some people say using a snowy static screen works pretty well also. The main plus of the disc is that since it is a solid color, all phosphors get hit the same amount the entire time.
-Evangelo2

Discovery HD is good as well. They used to remove there logo pretty quickly. I haven't noticed in a while if they still do that. I avoided this myself because if something goes wrong with the DiscoveryHD feed then I may get some error message (hello "Searching For Satellite" DirecTV message :) ). I found my DVD player was more dependable after I verified that it made it past the title jumps (45 minute mark).
Some people say using a snowy static screen works pretty well also. The main plus of the disc is that since it is a solid color, all phosphors get hit the same amount the entire time.
-Evangelo2

For Mac users: To make the DVD-R break in disc on my Mac I downloaded a trial version of DVD Copy for Macintosh, which works just fine. Download the ISO files and use DVD Copy to burn the disc. Works perfectly.

Have had the DVD running for 4 days straight now,about 100 hours...couple of more days and I'm good to go.....great color show!

Thank's Evangelo2.

Here's what I did

I downloaded your
Breakin_DVD_R_NRG.zip (12549kb) on 2006/8/4
from
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/downloads.htm
I unzipped it to
C:\temp\Home Theatre\Nero_BreakInDVD\NRG\Breakin DVD-R.nrg
(441921 kb, 2006/5/2)

I'm using Windows XP Professional 2002 SP2.

I went to http://www.nero.com/enu/Downloads.html
and downloaded "Nero 7 Ultra Edition Enhanced Trial Version"
and got a
Nero-7.5.9.0A_eng.exe (154,581kb) 2006/12/7

Installed Nero-7.5.9.0A_eng.exe.
Without the ASK TOOLBAR browser add in. I used the custom settings to install -- but left them all unchanged. I didn't allow it to use Nero for anything (images, video, audio, icons) -- no file types, no desktop icons, etc -- I selected 'remove all' on each/all the tabs. Said it was installing over a gigabyte of files.
It installed Microsoft DirectX9c, forcing a reboot of my WindowsXP.

After the reboot It had put something on my task bar -- which I removed after unselecting a bunch of indexing options.
It also added an entry to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Run
which I also removed.

I
Start > Programs > Nero 7 Demo > Data > Nero Burning ROM
On the Nero toolbar, near the right, I clicked on "Choose a recorder", and selected my SONY DVD RW DRU-720A IDE drive.
I inserted a blank SONY DVD-R 4.7GB 1x-8x disk. [When WindowsXP asked me what to do with it, I pushed CANCEL, because I wanted Nero to deal with it instead]
On the Nero toolbar, near the left, I clicked on "New". From the top left drop down it was set to "CD", so I selected "DVD".
I then clicked on the "OPEN" button near the bottom, and opened
C:\temp\Home Theatre\Nero_BreakInDVD\NRG\Breakin DVD-R.nrg
This opened up the BURN tab, and I left "Write" checked, and under Write Speed I reduced it from 8x to 6x(8310 kb/s) because sometimes disks won't write at top speed.
I pushed the BURN button.
After it started burning, I clicked on the "Verify" checkbox on the bottom left. After about 10 minutes it was done, including verification. No errors, and it auto-ejected the DVD.

I then put it into my Toshiba HD-XA1, and hit play.
A white screen appeared on my tv.
I tried fast forward on the remote, but that was refused.
After about 30 seconds I noticed that the chapter number went up. So I tried next chapter button on the remote, and clicked through about 65 chapters.
There are various flavours of white, that slowly become RED.
Then there are more whites, that slowly become BLUE.
Then there are more whites, that slowly become GREEN.

Seems to work fine.

Thank you very much Basement Bob, you helped me out, would not have it today with out these directions. Great!!!

Discovery HD is good as well. They used to remove there logo pretty quickly. I haven't noticed in a while if they still do that. I avoided this myself because if something goes wrong with the DiscoveryHD feed then I may get some error message (hello "Searching For Satellite" DirecTV message :) ). I found my DVD player was more dependable after I verified that it made it past the title jumps (45 minute mark).
Some people say using a snowy static screen works pretty well also. The main plus of the disc is that since it is a solid color, all phosphors get hit the same amount the entire time.
-Evangelo2

Hey Evangelo2, great disk, thanks for doing that. Some here are saying to turn up the contrast and brightness when running the disk, what do you say about that?

1000 hours seems a bit excessive to me as well. I've seen that twice, but the manufacture of my set (a Sammy 5054) suggests a 100 hour break in period. Ithink the manufacturer would know a little more about their sets then us hobbyists - or so you would think.

However, I did download this DVD - have ran it for about two hours total. Staying up a bit right now to make sure it cycles through a bit - but if this disk shuts off in the middle of the night I'm screwed - as I'll have my Sony DVD logo burned into the screen (and I don't want that!!!).

So after about another hour or so when I go to bed - I'll turn the disk off. Can't see how 1000 hours of 'breakin' is necessary - I would like to read why specifically this is.

I've gotta chime in on this... I would agree that there is some over-kill on this whole issue. Pioneer does not publish any information about a break-in period and I didn't come across a sales associate at any of the 4 electronics stores that I shopped who knew about a hard and fast break-in period. Panasonic does state that you should be careful for the first 100 hours. Translation: Don't turn on Bloomberg TV and leave on in 4:3 format for 12 hours.

I just bought 2 new plasma tvs. One is a pioneer and one is a panasonic. The Pioneer has roughly 15 hours of viewing on it and the other night I watched a show on MHD for almost 1 1/2 hours (they have a very bright/static logo)... no IR what=so-ever. I did notice that the Panasonic has momentarily retained some bright images (such as the Comcast On Demand intro for movies)... but they go away. I'm assuming this will stop happening after a month or so (the phosphers are probably just getting used to being energized).

Frankly, I don't want to be afraid to use the TV and have fun with it. I've read so many things on the net... such as: Only watch your plasma is cinema mode to avoid premature loss of brightness and burn-in. My response to that is: For what? I didn't buy these things to baby them. After all, they will slowly die and are replaceable.

Now that I'm done that rant, on to this burn-in DVD. I did run on it on a Panasonic that I returned... and I returned it because of this DVD. I just happened to notice that one or 2 pixels didn't lite-up during a light blue screen. The flickered and turned black. They did fire for all other colors.

So thank you for making this DVD... without it I probably wouldn't have noticed this flaw within the first 30 days of ownership. The store I bought it from is replacing the tv. You had better believe the new tv will be displaying this DVD, too!

So, anyway... rock-on folks. And don't forget to relax and have fun with these beautiful plasma tv's. :rolleyes:

Thank you so much for all the infos...

I received today my first plasma, a Panasonic Viera TH-37PV45EH...
and i must admit that i am so anxious, with all the burn in talks, especially if you take into consideration, that i bought it for my gaming needs(Wii)...I hope that no one says...oh poor fellow!! :rolleyes:

Ok, i burned the svcd file and i am ready to go...I also noticed the 45 minutes length, but, upon reaching the 45th minute, it starts again from zero and continues...Ι hope that is the right case!

I just wanna ask two questions...For how long will i keep the svcd playing?Wont there be a need for the TV to make a break, for fear of overheating(especially here in the really hot these days Greece)..
The colors should cover the whole of the tv, right?No black bars whatsoever, right?

And in general, anything else that i should pay attention to? :confused:

Whoops...I just noticed in the first pages of the thread, that you should calibrate the tv?I dont have any calibration dvd!I just thought that you should put the brightness, contrast settings to appx 20% of the maximum value and proceed with the svcd...

:confused: :confused: :confused:

That is all for now!Again, major thumbs up to Evangelo and everyone else who is contributing to this thread, especially since you are so helpful with all the newbies too!

edit...I started the procedure...From what i have seen my Plasma doesn;t have nuemrical data for C/B, so i cant really tell their exact value, but i ve put them quite low....saturation normal, screen asepct set to wide..also what about the noise reduction features?should they be high or low?

I ve just read about the center line that appears in Some Panny models and needless to say i got even more stressful and anxious than before! :(
If anyone has the exact same model and would like to offer me any advice about the settings i d greatly appreciate it...

Thank you so much for all the infos...

I received today my first plasma, a Panasonic Viera TH-37PV45EH...
and i must admit that i am so anxious, with all the burn in talks, especially if you take into consideration, that i bought it for my gaming needs(Wii)...I hope that no one says...oh poor fellow!! :rolleyes:

Ok, i burned the svcd file and i am ready to go...I also noticed the 45 minutes length, but, upon reaching the 45th minute, it starts again from zero and continues...Ι hope that is the right case!

Yes, I have ran it for 8-9 hours with no problems.


I just wanna ask two questions...For how long will i keep the svcd playing?Wont there be a need for the TV to make a break, for fear of overheating(especially here in the really hot these days Greece)..
The colors should cover the whole of the tv, right?No black bars whatsoever, right?


I do not know about overheating which is why I shut mine off. I usually run it all night and turn it of before heading to work.

No black bars, correct.



And in general, anything else that i should pay attention to? :confused:

Whoops...I just noticed in the first pages of the thread, that you should calibrate the tv?I dont have any calibration dvd!I just thought that you should put the brightness, contrast settings to appx 20% of the maximum value and proceed with the svcd...

:confused: :confused: :confused:


I did not see what you are talking about there, I did no calabration just reduced the settings. I do not know much about calibration. I think you are ok to just lay it in there and go.



That is all for now!Again, major thumbs up to Evangelo and everyone else who is contributing to this thread, especially since you are so helpful with all the newbies too!

edit...I started the procedure...From what i have seen my Plasma doesn;t have nuemrical data for C/B, so i cant really tell their exact value, but i ve put them quite low....saturation normal, screen asepct set to wide..also what about the noise reduction features?should they be high or low?

I ve just read about the center line that appears in Some Panny models and needless to say i got even more stressful and anxious than before! :(
If anyone has the exact same model and would like to offer me any advice about the settings i d greatly appreciate it...

I have the sammy 5054 can't help you here

Thanx caliskier!

I have started the procedure..i am in 10 hours so far...
I go with periods of 5 hours, some cooling of and then again up to 5 hours...

Regarding the calibration, i was referring to the after the break in period..
Anyway, so far i have to say that the tv gets really hot, especially in the "upper" parts and indeed it seems to be emitting quite a heat! :)
Also, i think that it smells a little bit weird, but i am not sure if that is my idea...I hope that there isn;t any phosphorus leakage!! :eek:

Hi Gabriel,
Sounds like you got the right idea :) If you are new to home theather I can recommend the AVIA calivration DVD to you. It contains a tutorial on how to use the test patterns and comes with the colored filters needed to properly calibrate your set :) It is educational and fun :) Enjoy this great hobby!
-Evangelo2

Hi Gabriel,
Sounds like you got the right idea :) If you are new to home theather I can recommend the AVIA calivration DVD to you. It contains a tutorial on how to use the test patterns and comes with the colored filters needed to properly calibrate your set :) It is educational and fun :) Enjoy this great hobby!
-Evangelo2

Just out of curiosity, I've notice that the colors produced by my Oppo DVD player pale in comparison to the HD broadcasts coming over cable. They are much dimmer and not as vibrant.

(A) Is this normal for an upscaling player?

(B) Wouldn't this fact ruin my ability to calibrate via a DVD (hence, the cable picture would probably end up looking bad)

Hi, I tried this out on my new Philips 50 inch refurb I got from the recent philips deal. It had 156 hours on it, but its very susceptible to image retention. Even leaving the TV's menu on for about 10 seconds leaves a temporary imprint on the screen. I ran your DVD, but there seems to be a LOT of noise on the screen, I dont know if this is normal or if I got a defective set. I googled it and I THINK its dithering, not quite sure. My screen doesnt show a pure color, it shows the color, but also a lot of random dots (in the thousands and thousands) of other colors all over the screen. After running the DVD for about an hour, I noticed that certain parts of the screen had patches of dots that were temporarily burned into the screen. Do I have a defective set or just a cheap qualit plasma?

Try turning down your settings for brightness and contrast and sharpness.
There should be no dots as the images are solid color images.
What kind of DVD player are you using and what kind of conection to your tv are you using?
-Evangelo2

Try turning down your settings for brightness and contrast and sharpness.
There should be no dots as the images are solid color images.
What kind of DVD player are you using and what kind of conection to your tv are you using?
-Evangelo2

I had brightness and contrast at 43, sharpness at 2. I'm using an OLD dvd player, sony DVP-NC600 using the regular yellow/red/white connections. Would using a better dvd player and component imputs solve the problems, with the individual RGB connections and all?

My 42PX75U is scheduled for delivery tomorrow morning. I'm PUMPED!! I'm going to start breaking it in immediately and am wondering what settings I should use. I will be using the break-in CD.

Thanks,
Dave

I am having a hell of a time trying to burn myself this DVD......I'm using Nero 6. I've tried every single one and still nothing. I can view the files on the Video_TS version but some of them are like strobe lights they go so fast......is it supposed to be like that?

UPDATE: I ended up getting the Video_TS version to work by making a data DVD using Sonic.......for some reason Nero was just not working.

Because I don't have a dvd player which can play copied disks, I had to find an other way to get same results as this dvd/svcd.

I made same pictures, going from whit to colo/grey, put them on harddisk of my 360 and I have my 360 run a slideshow of these pictures continuesly. Easier then burning a dvd/svcd, atleast that's what I think. :)

Thanks Evangelo2 for making this available to everyone. I'm a new 50' Panny and I came to the forums asking advice about gaming in it. Someone in that thread pointed me to this DVD and thread. I have read all 19 pages of it and I must say I feel much more informed and at peace about IR.

For those who may ask, I have the 50PX75U and my current break-in settings are -10 contrast, -10 brightness, everything else at 0. So far I have logged in 58 hours without any problems.

How does everyone know how many hours that their TV has been on?

How does everyone know how many hours that their TV has been on?

Well I created a simple spread sheet in excel that calculates the hours. I simply log the times when turn it on and off and the sheet does the calculations for me and gives me the total for the day as well as a grand total.

But I'm just anal like that and since I'm currently unemployed and have lots of time in my hands I created that. All you really need is to count the hours of each day and keep track of them until you reach your goal.

Or watch in the service menu of your TV. Bit simpler. :p

Or watch in the service menu of your TV. Bit simpler. :p

True, but from what I've been reading here, if you don't know what you're doing in the SM you can permanently screw up your TV, not to mention void the warranty when you access it.

Just approximate it. It doesnt have to be exact.
If you run the disc for around 10 hours a day and watch another 2 hours a day of your shows/movies, just remember how many days and multiply by 12. Easy enough if you dont feel comfortable in the service menu.
-Evangelo2

Okay so I got my new Samsung 4254 today and didn't see this thread until watching TV and playing some games but I have a couple questions.

Not sure what settings the TV should be on when using it but here is what I did:

Turned off dynamic and put on Standard
Gamma: -2
Brightness: 30
Contrast: 40
Energy Saving Mode: High

Is this okay? Should they be turned higher or lower? Any other settings I should pay attention to while using this break in CD? I was going to let it run overnight but wanted to be sure of this stuff before I do.

Okay so I got my new Samsung 4254 today and didn't see this thread until watching TV and playing some games but I have a couple questions.

Not sure what settings the TV should be on when using it but here is what I did:

Turned off dynamic and put on Standard
Gamma: -2
Brightness: 30
Contrast: 40
Energy Saving Mode: High

Is this okay? Should they be turned higher or lower? Any other settings I should pay attention to while using this break in CD? I was going to let it run overnight but wanted to be sure of this stuff before I do.

To further this, my Samsung TV says it does not require a break in. I am weary lol.

For Mac users: To make the DVD-R break in disc on my Mac I downloaded a trial version of DVD Copy for Macintosh, which works just fine. Download the ISO files and use DVD Copy to burn the disc. Works perfectly.

FYI, in addition to burning a CD/DVD in GUI programs like Toast or DVD Copy you can also burn ISO images on the Mac in OSX directly from the terminal window. Here is what you need to do.

1. Copy or move the ISO image to the desktop
2. Bring up a terminal window (go to Applications->Utilities and double click on terminal)
3. When you launch the terminal utility it will start in the /Users/UserName directory. Change to the Desktop directory with the following command:
cd desktop
4. insert a DVD-R disk into your DVD Drive
5. Type the following command in the Terminal window
hdiutil burn EA_BREAKIN_DVD.ISO

You will see the following messages appear on the screen

Preparing data for burn
Opening session
Opening track
Writing track
............................................................ .................
Closing track
............................................................ .................
Closing session
............................................................ ..................
Finishing burn
Verifying burn...
Verifying
............................................................ ...................
Burn completed successfully
............................................................ ...................
hdiutil: burn: completed

The DVD will automatically be ejected and you are done. No extra software needed.

Good Luck and thanks to Evangelo2 for providing this great disk for us.

This really helped alot thanks

The break in period is a little annoying but at the same time worth it. Just sucks your basically out of a tv for the first couple days after you buy the PDP.

hey everyone well i myself am thinking about this break in dvd, so it shows a a color and switches to other colors over and over? purpose? well see thing is i come from enjoy CRT tube hd quality and so i did my research i think and plasma seems the way to go but the burn in issue is making me think twice help :confused: if i do go for it its goint to be the Pioneer PDP-5010FD 1080p 50''
but see thing is im like hmm setting mode standard dynimic movie game hmm dynamic looks nice.... i just want the best possible picture but then reason i mention video settings is cuz i quite dont get the lower brightness /contras and what not ..... any help please?

Greetings to everybody....I am sure that no one wonders, but i completed 200 hrs, without a single minute of viewing something else(i know i am compulsive:)) and i am ready to connect my Wii...
Just a question...i am sure that this is not the right topic, but if anyone could help me, i d greatly appreciate it, maybe by giving me a link to where a question like this could be answered...
Which are now, after the break in period,the optimal settings(Contrast, Brightness etc) for my Panasonic Viera TH-37PV45EH...
Thanx to everybody!!
ΕDIT
Sorry for the clichι, but Huston we ve got a problem...
I connected my Wii, through official component cables, and i set with the "Twilight Princess"..I was blown away from the colours!!!
And there i was so happy, when i noticed it...Upon watching the sky in the game, i noticed vertical parallel lines, that as if they were divided in smaller cubes... Ι examined even further and noticed that i could see these lines in all the aspect of the tv and they were more evident in one-color pictures..when there were many colors in the screen, the lines were not discernible...
Any help guys?I dont think that this could be a burn in, since the lines cover the whole screen...
EDIT 2
So, i investigated a little bit and i noticed this...The lines were really evident when the MPEG Noise Reduction is off...when i put it on, the lines become really really hard to see, yet there...The problem is that the textures become quite blurry in the game..
I checked watching a dvd movie for a couple of minutes and i think i caught a glimpse of the lines....Still remain clueless...

I've got a new Panasonic TH-50PZ700U which I've been running the burn-in disc on. I stupidly didn't read the part about turning the brightness and contrast down, so I ran it with the default "Standard" picture settings. I can't check those settings right now, but I think Contrast was pretty high and Brightness was in the middle. I've run the disc for maybe around 25 hours so far. I have watched other material in-between disc periods.

So have I damaged my new TV?

Thanks for the info...

rwinston,
Have no fear. Sounds like your plasma is fine. If you dont notice any issues on the screen then its ok :)
-Evangelo2

I've read thru this thread and followed the instructions but can't seem to get a dvd-r or a cd-r to play. I download both files and extracted them to a directory. I tried burning the image to the cd and dvd but it doesn't play.

I tried using my ps3 and a regular dvd player. Any help on what I am doing wrong would be appreciated.

Steps I tried to burn(similar with dvd-r):
1.Open nero burning rom
2.Selected CD-> CD-ROM (ISO)
3.New
4.Drag the BreakinDVD.nrg file to compliation section
5.Click burn.

Thanks in advance.

How many hours should this DVD be ran for? I see that you mentioned 1,000 hours. I thought break in was only a huge risk during the first 100?

Evangelo2,
Thanks for this program. My DVD is only 44:47 minutes long. Isnt it supposed to be 16 hours? Did I do something wrong? I did burn it to DVD-R, rather than CD-R.
Thanks!

Hey w3wa2003,

When you burned it did you just extract the file and burn as an iso image? I burned a copy and I can see data but I put in my dvd player and it doesn't run. I tried a samsung dvd player and a ps3 but nothing, both as dvd-r and cd-r.

Evangelo2,
Thanks for this program. My DVD is only 44:47 minutes long. Isnt it supposed to be 16 hours? Did I do something wrong? I did burn it to DVD-R, rather than CD-R.
Thanks!

My cd says it is that long too. After the 45 minutes, it just starts over from the beginning. My thing is that when I downloaded the file and extracted it, the file size is only 441MB. It seems to be working ok, I am just afraid to leave it running when I am not home, cause I don't know for sure that it will run 16 hours. Someone quell my fears.

My dvd burner wont burn dvd-r only dvd+r so that is why I am using a cd-r

Hey Guys,
Neither the DVD or SVCD version are only 45 minutes long. The disc contains multiple titles which are 45 minutes long. When a title ends, the DVD player should transition to the enxt title which is another 45 minutes.
The DVD-R version should be good for 24 hours and the SVCD version for 8-12 (I cant remember exactly since its been so long since I ran it).
-Evangelo2

I've read conflicting things about settings for breaking in my 50PX77u. Any definitive word on whether they should be turned down or turned up during break in? Panasonic's web site says to set them all at 0.

Is there any clear answer, or does no one really know?

Thanks!

I've read conflicting things about settings for breaking in my 50PX77u. Any definitive word on whether they should be turned down or turned up during break in? Panasonic's web site says to set them all at 0.

Is there any clear answer, or does no one really know?

Thanks!

It is generally agreed here that you should turn all your settings down low. I went for 0 on everything and watch standard or cinema settings. Only about 2 hours left for me and then free to begin full enjoyment of my 50PZ700U.

It is generally agreed here that you should turn all your settings down low. I went for 0 on everything and watch standard or cinema settings. Only about 2 hours left for me and then free to begin full enjoyment of my 50PZ700U.

Thanks. That's what Panasonic says (and what Im doing). I did read a lot on another threat though about Pioneer recommending to turn the contrast up higher than normal.

When I run this on my dvd player....I only see the blue shades on my TV....the greens and the reds never come.

What's wrong?
The dvd plays fine.
It changes correctly after 45 minutes as it should apparently.

But the colors on the tv...I never see the reds coming.
Why is that?

Thanks, Evangelo2! This DVD has worked flawlessly the past 2 days.

Has anyone been able to play this on a PS3?

Are these break-in files the same as the ones posted my D-Nice here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858851)?
If they are different, which is the better choice?

Has anyone been able to play this on a PS3?

Yes, I've been using it to burn in my new Samsung 4254 plasma and playing it via PS3.

Evangelo2, thanks for creating this and posting it.
WaveRat64, thanks for posting the Mac OSX Terminal instructions.

I was able to burn it to DVD-R, and it's playing right now on my Sony DVD player. It even loops at the 45 minute mark. Thanks again, guys.

Has anyone been able to play this on a PS3?

Yes I used the disc couple times with my PS3 while listened to music on my DVD player. Kind of cool with the screen changing into difference colors with the difference rhythms at the same time :)

Hi RobOnLI and osiris3mc,
Each title on the DVD is in fact 45 minutes long. It will play again because there are multiple titles each 45 minutes long. That is why it is a key thing to test this disc with your DVD player before you start using it. Start playing it at the 44 minute mark and make sure that after the 45 minute mark it starts all over again. If it does this you should be ok. The DVD version should be food for 24 hours (although I never let it play for more than 16 straight myself since by then I usually ended up watching some TV or giving the set a rest).
-Evangelo2

Evangelo, sound like we should add up 100 to 150 or maybe even 200 hours using your break-in DVD along with watching TV or regular DVD along the way. Does it matter if it would take a month to add up the hours for break-in DVD? Just got the Pio 6010 and it hard not to watch my favorite DVD movies or other wonder HD programs on TV ;) Thanks for all the tips and looking forward to your response.
H

I will admit all of this break=in talk is making me not want to go with plasma. My god they sound delicate!

Welcome to the world of "new" tech--supposedly all this new stuff is better! :)

Evangelo, first of all thanks for the DVD.

I am playing the DVD via s-video to my 58PH10UK. First off it was displaying it in widescreen so I changed the aspect to FULL so that the whole screen is filled up. I have run the disk for about 20 hrs and I realized after reading one of your posts that I probably am not doing the right thing.

You mentioned that the color should look solid. Mine look a little snowy. I am guessing that is probably because the input signal (via s-video) is 480i which is being scaled up to fit the big screen. Am I doing more damage than good to my screen ?

Let me know please, I am getting a bit paranoid. :o

bohemian,
I don't think you have anything to worry about. The snow can be a number of things. I would say try doing a quick calibration of your tv (especially birghtness and cotrast) and then try it again. I doubt its doing any harm anyways , especially if the snow is different after each transition.
-Evangelo2

I've downloaded the ISO version, but when I play it on my Kiss player it stops at 29 sec.
Any idea why?

I just got my panny 42px75u when playing the disc..should the tv be set to aspect ratio of zoom or full? I have and older Panasonic dvd player..and i dont think you can change the aspect ratio on it..does that make a difference? Does it make a difference that i'm doing this via rca cables and not hdmi? Many thanks in Advance

Using the .ISO version playing at 420p, 720p, and 1080i over HDMI, I cannot get the images to fill the entire screen. What am I doing wrong?

So I'm thinking about getting a Samsung 42inch Plasma and looks like I need to break it in but some numbers here are getting out of control. First I see 100 hours, than I see 250 hours and I also see 1000 hours. What gives???

Well here is my take on it. I will use this WONDERFUL break in dvd for the first straight 100 hours without any normal use at all. Than for the next 150 hours I shall use the Samsung's build in anti burn in program which has like a gray wave go across a white screen. I shall do that for an hour after usage since most of my viewing will be standard dvds and playing xbox 360 (HALO 3!!!!) Once the 250 hours are done than I'll probably be a lil more loose with the Plasma....

What do you guys think of my plan?

So I'm thinking about getting a Samsung 42inch Plasma and looks like I need to break it in but some numbers here are getting out of control. First I see 100 hours, than I see 250 hours and I also see 1000 hours. What gives???

Well here is my take on it. I will use this WONDERFUL break in dvd for the first straight 100 hours without any normal use at all. Than for the next 150 hours I shall use the Samsung's build in anti burn in program which has like a gray wave go across a white screen. I shall do that for an hour after usage since most of my viewing will be standard dvds and playing xbox 360 (HALO 3!!!!) Once the 250 hours are done than I'll probably be a lil more loose with the Plasma....

What do you guys think of my plan?


Sounds OK to me.
Just make sure that you calibrate your plasma before doing heavy gaming. With the xbox 360 I recentrly calibrated using the built in test patterns for the NBA Live 07 Demo (I think that was it at least).

-Evangelo2

Hey, glad it worked out for you wojtek.

I got some image retention for the first time the other day after hooking up my new HR10-250 DirecTiVo to the Pio 5050HD. The bright yellow "Now Playing" words on the top of the now playing list were visible on a screen with no input signal. That went away by the time I got done with Batman Begins (which was excellent).

I ran the break in DVD the next day for 13 hours, just in case :) I think that's it for me, I am over 500 hours and it is time for me to retire the breakin DVD for future plasmas :)

-Evangelo2

Hello everyone,

I love these forums, very informative!
I just bought the Panny TH-42PX77U and I am going to download your break-in disc Evangelo2, but I have a couple of questions:
What is the reasoning behinde breaking in a plasma TV?
Am I safe to run this disc continuiously non-stop, won't that be hard on the TV?
Does this TV have a automatic IR solution, I do not see any eraser options in the menu?
Last but not least, a little off topic but previously asked, why is the 3D-Y/C Comb Filter grayed-out in the options menu, is this turned on automatically?

Sorry for all the questions, but when it comes to plasma I am a layman...

I have the 42PX75U maybe i can be some asstince

the reason behind breaking in the plasma is because the gas cells are premature, therfore the more it plays something the faster they "age" now we could simply watch tv but theirs alot of logo's or black bars, thus a video that plays diffrent colors every few seconds. its up to you if you want to run the tv all day all night long. i bought mine 26th turned down the settings to standard +0 played several hrs of halo 3 watched a few letterboxed films and no issues. then once it was time to sleep i put the break in disc played it after hrs til i woke up. so its up to you.

no this tv doesnt have any IR auto or white wash away.... it does have a wobble pixel effect which helps the burn in be less likely. bottom line this tv should be just as enjoyable as our tube tvs and we shouldnt babe it every step in the way. as far as the 3d yc mabe your on the wrong picture mode.






Hello everyone,

I love these forums, very informative!
I just bought the Panny TH-42PX77U and I am going to download your break-in disc Evangelo2, but I have a couple of questions:
What is the reasoning behinde breaking in a plasma TV?
Am I safe to run this disc continuiously non-stop, won't that be hard on the TV?
Does this TV have a automatic IR solution, I do not see any eraser options in the menu?
Last but not least, a little off topic but previously asked, why is the 3D-Y/C Comb Filter grayed-out in the options menu, is this turned on automatically?

Sorry for all the questions, but when it comes to plasma I am a layman...

Here's my dilema.

We have a user that has 2 Plasma TV's and a Projector routed through a XGA matrix switcher.

All the components devices route through a scaler that converts them to xga before going into the matrix switcher.

My problem is, anything played in widescreen doesn't fill the plasmas. There's black bars at the top.

Anything played standard screen shows up full screen on the plasmas.

What I need, is a 4:3 Burnin DVD until I figgure out what I can do about this matrix switcher.

Does anyone have a place to download one, or have a program that can convert the 16:9 dvd that's listed here into a 4:3 dvd?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Sorry but there is no program to convert it.
You may want to try using a zoom mode for your plasmas. Most of them have some kind of zoom mode to fill your screen.
-Evangelo2

Got a question- hope it's not a dumb one, but why do you need to ue this break-in DVD? Can you just play an all 16:9 formatted channel that has no solid image (like channel logos) for 100 hours? Like say HBO HD? There is constant motion and no prolonged static signal/image. This has been confusing me for a while now. Thanks.

Got a question- hope it's not a dumb one, but why do you need to ue this break-in DVD? Can you just play an all 16:9 formatted channel that has no solid image (like channel logos) for 100 hours? Like say HBO HD? There is constant motion and no prolonged static signal/image. This has been confusing me for a while now. Thanks.

You can do that Ripley. The only problem is that a lot of these HD channels show things that do not fill up the whole screen. I guess you can just use a stretch mode on your tv playing things all day. One good thing about teh break in DVD is that it is solid uniform colors so all pixels are lit evenly. The advantage of this may not be that great though.
-Evangelo2

Awesome resource and thread.

BTW did I mention this is a great DVD, and my wife keeps asking "why is the TV only showing solid colors?" :)

hello, plan to purchase a pioneer 5010 or a panny th50pz700u in the next couple of days. i want to use a break-in dvd but didn't have the inclination to read through 21 pages (& truthfully only read the first & last) can someone provide a cliffs notes version? or is it simply enought to download the DVD & play it fairly continuously for ~100 hours (i'm going to watch regular HDTV & maybe a DVD or 2 during the process) thanks!

kidsdoc,
It should be ok. Try to avoid black bars when watching dvds or tv. I would give the tv some cool off time as well instead of going 100 hours straight but I am really precautious when it comes to this stuff. When I broke my plasma in I would leave it off for about 4 hours a day.
-Evangelo2

kidsdoc,
It should be ok. Try to avoid black bars when watching dvds or tv. I would give the tv some cool off time as well instead of going 100 hours straight but I am really precautious when it comes to this stuff. When I broke my plasma in I would leave it off for about 4 hours a day.
-Evangelo2

thank you sir!:cool:

Is there a Windows Media version of the break in DVD available? I tried to download a Nero trial edition but for some reason it was really slow (12 kbps on a high speed connection, when my normal download speed is 300 kbps) and Windows doesn't recognize the .iso version, so if you have a Windows Media format available I would be grateful.

i apologize if this has been asked before but what's the difference b/w the 3 versions: ISO, NRG, VIDEO_TS? thanks again!

hello, plan to purchase a pioneer 5010 or a panny th50pz700u in the next couple of days. i want to use a break-in dvd but didn't have the inclination to read through 21 pages (& truthfully only read the first & last) can someone provide a cliffs notes version? or is it simply enought to download the DVD & play it fairly continuously for ~100 hours (i'm going to watch regular HDTV & maybe a DVD or 2 during the process) thanks!

kidsdoc,
It should be ok. Try to avoid black bars when watching dvds or tv. I would give the tv some cool off time as well instead of going 100 hours straight but I am really precautious when it comes to this stuff. When I broke my plasma in I would leave it off for about 4 hours a day.
-Evangelo2

No difference. Just different burning formats. Depending on what program you like to use to burn disc you pick the file (e.g. if you use nero then you want the nrg file).
-Evangelo2

No difference. Just different burning formats. Depending on what program you like to use to burn disc you pick the file (e.g. if you use nero then you want the nrg file).
-Evangelo2


And what if I use windows media for everything?

Is there anyone experiencing problems to play the DVD on a ps3. I’ve copied the Video_TS folder straight on a DVD and I get a error when I try to play it. It seems to be working fine when I play it on me PC with media player.

Do I have to use a DVD-R? I’ve currently tried two discs, DVD+R and DVD+RW

Ladies and Gentlemen...I have just read every post on this thread. WHEW*

So I'm one day from recieving my Samsung HPT425 42inch plasma. And I think I'm ready for the break-in period. But what exactly does the break in dvd show? From what I read...20 images - The colors go from a white to a dark grey in 5 gradients, white to blue in 5 gradients, white to green in 5 gradients and white to red in 5 gradients. The images change every 30 seconds. Right???

Well I don't see it change every 30 seconds...When I have it playing, I see it change every 60 seconds...than 55 seconds...than 53 seconds...etc... But when I use the fast forward to next chapter, I see the color change every 30 seconds. I used PowerDVD to test it

When I use PowerDVD to test the DVD, it starts at chapter 3 with an all white screen...60 seconds later I get a gray color...56 seconds later I get a dark gray color...52 seconds later I get a baby blue color (I'm now in chapter 10)....about 50 seconds later I get a purplish color....about 60 seconds later I get blue...etc...But when I keep pressing forward to the next chapter, I can see that every chapter is a different color and changes every 30 seconds. So when I have it playing normally, it doesn't show all the colors. What gives???

I picked up my 50px75u last night. I had burned the DVD-r version the night before. Ran it over night so I'm on my way. Thank you very much for providing this service.

I know in one of the earliest posts (first post?) you were looking for feedback on dvd players that it works on (and those it does not work on I suppose). It worked perfectly on my 7-disc JVC player. It did NOT work on my Panasonic DVD recorder with hard drive (sorry I don't have the model numbers here with me at work). The panasonic did not recognize the format so maybe it just doesn't like DVD-r. It worked on my Philips 7" portable dvd player.

It's almost calming to see the glow of different colors, although I seem to have an irresistable urge to go to the book store and buy 'Catcher in the Rye'.

Again, thank you very much.

It's almost calming to see the glow of different colors, although I seem to have an irresistable urge to go to the book store and buy 'Catcher in the Rye'.


LMFAO!!!!!

UPDATE...

So I noticed that every time the color is about to change, the time on my player gets stuck...so instead of 30 seconds, it changes every 50-60 seconds. Could it be the Dvd player??? Or did I just burn a bad copy?

Wow why is everything always so difficult? If Samsung recommends 100 hours of breaking in... couldn't they have done this before the sets hit the market? This sure is a pain in the ass.

Plus I thought it was supposed to change with only 5 gradients. I get 7 types of red and 6 types of green and 6 types of blue. And grey stays the same for 3 chapters before it changes. UGH, this is a mess.

Guys, I too was having a terrible time getting the Break-in DVD to run on our DVD player. But we solved the problem by hooking up our son's PS2. Eureka, it works great! The ps2 has a loop function and now we are off to 150 hours of burn-in bliss. No longhorn game at our house today - but over the long run it will be worth it.

BTW, Ramon's team rocks (Invision)! We ordered our 5010fd on Thurday afternoon, and it was delivered on Friday. Also, great follow-up and service. I feel very confident that if something goes awry, these guys will work to fix it. Good price and great service. Hard to beat!

Update:

Bought a new sony upconvert dvd player and the disc works perfect. Why it didn't work using my power dvd on my computer is beyond me. Oh well, it's break in time!

I just bought the 50px77u and was going to start breaking in tonight. Do I turn down the contrast only to 0 or are there other adjustments I should make. I've searched these forums but haven't found a concise answer.

Thanks for this great tool. I'm all about error on the side of caution. I just got my plasma today and I will be running this DVD for 10 hours when I go to bed for the next 2 weeks so I can easily hit my 100hours. Well 140 it you want to be exact. :D

Thanks for the burn-in DVD!

Thanks for .iso file.

I burned DVD-R , DVD+R - both play perfect on my DVD.

I breaking 42" plasma Philips 42PFP5332
by using DVD/SACD player Philips DVD963SA.

I am happy that my units can play NTSC (I live in Europe where not so many units accept NTSC and DTS - on our continent PAL and Dolby Digital are kings..)

Best regards
zs_pl

I downloaded this DVD and have been running it all afternoon on my new TV. Thanks!

Just wondering what sort of wear this will put on the hardware to be turned on for so long? If I was to leave it for 100 hours, it would need to be on for about 3 more days. Will it overheat or wear out the TV and/or DVD player? Don't devices need time to cool down every so often?

Everything looks good. Been running the break in DVD for about 24 hours now and DVD player and TV are nice and cool. I guess it does not put much strain on the DVD player to display those solid colors. Same for the TV because the brightness is dialed down to -5.

I'm having the same problem as many others, freezing at 28 seconds, using an LG BH100.

Has anyone found a solution other then using a different DVD player?

What settings should I use for breaking in a Panasonic 42" (TH-42PZ77U) using the break in dvd with a mac mini?

Thanks.
Brian

I couldnt get my Nero 6 to burn the NRG file but it did the ISO file on DVD. When I put it in a dvd player with a tube tv , it is white with black bars at the top and bottom . I just ordered my Pro-150FD so its not hand to test with it. Do you think I did the disc right and will the bars go away on the Pioneer?

I posted this in the Kuro settings' thread but it might be better suited here.

new pdp-6010 owner right here :D now i have a couple questions.

1. i'm going to start running the Break In disc, should I leave the factory settings or adjust it to settings D-Nice posted in the start of the thread? or does it even matter?

2. Should the DVD player output it to 720p or 1080p? I assume 1080p is fine, its just that the Break In thread was started in 2005 and Evangelo2's set was 720p.

3. Is there a ballpark time frame to run the disc? I watched baseball last night and I'm dying to watch a movie tonight but would like to squeeze in a few hours of burn-in first. Will I be OK if I run the disc for 3-4 hours some days and 7-8 hours on others until I hit the 200 hour mark?


*and a BIG thanks to RomanInvision for selling me the Kuro, he gave me the best quote and it arrived incredibly fast! Definite pleasure doing business. :)

Has anyone else noticed a very faint rolling horizontal flicker on the brightest white screen? It's pretty faint and only noticeable on the brightest white screen (the first screen when you start the DVD) but I'm just wondering if my set may have a weak power supply or something or if others have noticed this at all on their TVs.

Thanks!

jkozlow3,
Is it just the first white screen or the subsequent white screens throughout the disc? Do your have your set calibrated or at least your picture settigs turned down from the factory settings?
-Evangelo2

jkozlow3,
Is it just the first white screen or the subsequent white screens throughout the disc? Do your have your set calibrated or at least your picture settigs turned down from the factory settings?
-Evangelo2

It's pretty much only noticeable on the brightest white screen (but it happens every time the bright white screen appears - not just the 1st time).

I have the settings cranked way down. Do you think that the power supply could be getting strained too much on the bright white segments?

I downloaded the ISO yesterday and burned it using Nero but it would not burn to a DVD saying that it required a CD instead. So I just burned it to a CD but the whole color gradient is done in 3 seconds before it starts over. Right now the DVD player is just hooked up via RCA cables as my new cables have not yet arrived, but I wouldnt think that would matter, any help is appreciated, I would love you know ASAP so I can run it through the night.

Hello all...first post. I downloaded this the otder day, and have about 20 hours logged on my new panny 58" 750u. So far so good...I guess. I am going to try a regular DVD tonight to see if anything is thrown off, but so far it is working well.

Thank you for a great break-in DVD!

I am running it on a 4+ yr old Sony Progessive Scan DVD Player...nothing fancy.

I have my Panny set to: -10 Brightness.

I fast forwarded my disc to 45:00 minutes to check it repeating and it started over at that point. Will it continue to start over everytime, if I choose to marathon it and do the 150 hours straight?

The disc (DVD version) is designed to play for 24 hours.
After that the disc is done playing.
-Evangelo2

Gotcha! Thanks...

Hello All!
I'm eagerly awaiting my Panny 50PZ700 which arrives tomorrow and was thinking how to break-in the plasma but without using any dvd players, since the ones I got are my power hungry PS3 and my laptop, and wouldn't want them getting the abuse of the plasma's break in. I just remembered that this model comes equipped with an SD-Card Slot and an integrated Photo Gallery Player (kinda dangerous combination for a Plasma, huh) which I wonder if it would be possible to create an equivalent of the burn in disk with just plain color "pictures" and playing them on loop through the gallery slideshow. I know I should have checked the set's online manual regarding said integrated capability, and will do so immediately, but just wanted to hear any suggestions or opinions if it would work, and how to create the images (guess even M$paint would do the trick)
Thanks in advance!

Hello All!
I'm eagerly awaiting my Panny 50PZ700 which arrives tomorrow and was thinking how to break-in the plasma but without using any dvd players, since the ones I got are my power hungry PS3 and my laptop, and wouldn't want them getting the abuse of the plasma's break in. I just remembered that this model comes equipped with an SD-Card Slot and an integrated Photo Gallery Player (kinda dangerous combination for a Plasma, huh) which I wonder if it would be possible to create an equivalent of the burn in disk with just plain color "pictures" and playing them on loop through the gallery slideshow. I know I should have checked the set's online manual regarding said integrated capability, and will do so immediately, but just wanted to hear any suggestions or opinions if it would work, and how to create the images (guess even M$paint would do the trick)
Thanks in advance!

If you can get a slideshow to play then that idea should work just as good as the burn in disc. The images are just standard 16x9 ratio images that are solid colors. I made the colors pure red/green/blue and white with different liuminance levels. Good luck.
-Evangelo2

Where is the science behind this actually working?

A plasma TV is most prone to burn in durring its first 100 hours. This was documented by plasma manufacturers in a white paper a while ago. The idea behind the break in period and dvd is to age the phosphours evenly for the first 100 hours (burn them in or break them in ;) ). After that they are much less prone to permenant image retention due to less difference in how bright they are. Thats a very rough quick explanation.
-Evangelo2

just checked out the Toshiba HD-A3's specs out at Toshiba's web site & it shows that the player will play DVD-R. has anyone used the break-in DVD-R w/ the HD-A3? Thanks.

I'm using it on a DVD-R disk in my new A3 right now. Seems to work just fine.

I'm using it on a DVD-R disk in my new A3 right now. Seems to work just fine.

thanks.

Hi! I can't seem to tell from windows media center how long the dvd will play for. I downloaded the VTS files and when I inserted the disc, WMC "took over" and started playing the dvd. Will it still play for 24 hours? How can I tell; I've never really used WMC, much more used to windvd (which isn't on the new compute rI bought) .. Thanks!

HI
I got a Pioneer 5040HD Plasma. I just downloaded and burn the DVD+R onto this disc. Right not I have it running in my PS3. Is that a good idea or not or should i use another dvd player. During the break in process do i leave the tv on and how long is it going to take. Will it shorten the life of the plasma.

Hi! I can't seem to tell from windows media center how long the dvd will play for. I downloaded the VTS files and when I inserted the disc, WMC "took over" and started playing the dvd. Will it still play for 24 hours? How can I tell; I've never really used WMC, much more used to windvd (which isn't on the new compute rI bought) .. Thanks!

I played it on my pc, and the time was showing 44 minutes. I don't know if it automatically restarts itself. I guess I'll have to wait the 44 minutes. :rolleyes:

just wanted to confirm this disk plays various colors for x amount of minutes then shifts to another color?

I downloaded the ISO yesterday and burned it using Nero but it would not burn to a DVD saying that it required a CD instead. So I just burned it to a CD but the whole color gradient is done in 3 seconds before it starts over. Right now the DVD player is just hooked up via RCA cables as my new cables have not yet arrived, but I wouldnt think that would matter, any help is appreciated, I would love you know ASAP so I can run it through the night.
In Nero, you can burn it as a CD image or a DVD image instead. All you have to do is when you double click on the ISO file then Nero Burning Rom starts up, on the top left there is a drop down window that by default it is set to CD. All you have to do is select DVD instead in that window and it will burn a DVD image. I just tried it and it works.

I do not have Nero. I tried downloading ISO file but cannot make it work. Any suggestions?

I do not have Nero. I tried downloading ISO file but cannot make it work. Any suggestions?

I could check cnet to see if a trial version can be downloaded.

Thanks I downloaded the trial version and burned the DVD. I made the adjustments on my Pioneer Pro 110FD as per Dnice for break-in DVD. So now I got it running. Anything else I need to do?

Thanks.

I've been using this dvd to break in a new lg 50pc5d, thanks for posting it! I probably have about 50 hours logged but the image retention is still terrible when anything bright comes up...ie the menu panel. I can clearly read the words for a few minutes after they're gone if the screen is left on a solid color, so I hope this starts to go away with more hours logged. The display model at BB doesn't do this so maybe I'll get there eventually.

Skimmed through this thread and couldn't find any suggestions(I'm sure it's somewhere so sorry for the repeat ?), but what level of contrast and brightness levels should be used during the break in period? I think I have mine set around 20% of the maximum. Thanks.

I just bought the same plasma. Any ideas on the settings to run the break in yet?

What settings should I use for breaking in a Panasonic 42" (TH-42PZ77U) using the break in dvd with a mac mini?

Thanks.
Brian

Where is the science behind this actually working?

Agreed! I appreciate the author's effort but exactly how does this "break-in" DVD substantiated? :confused:

Agreed! I appreciate the author's effort but exactly how does this "break-in" DVD substantiated? :confused:

Should be explained somewhere in this thread.

When a plasma tv is new, the phosphours on the screen have not aged at all. At this time, high contrast can cause permenant image retention (brun in). It was recommended by a bunch of engineers at Panasonic and Pioneer to "break in" your plasma tv for the first 100 hours when the fresh phosphours were the most sensitive. For the first 100 hours that means calibrarte your set so the contrast/brightness is turned down a bit and no material that has balck bars or static overlays (2:35:1 ratio movies or 4:3 tv not stretched and video games are examples of this). I created the disc which was an idea of a bunch of people here to get through the first 100 hours quicker so that I could watch NFL games after I got my plasma. For me to watch 100 hours of tv could take me 2 months :) That is a very quick and rough rundown of this disc.
-Evangelo2

Can someone please post the settings to use on a Panasonic TH-42PZ700U before using the disk? the tv is waiting to be turned on :(

Just downloaded the ISO file and made a DVD using nero. I put it in my 3 years old Denon up-converting DVD player and it ran fine. I see that it has 90 chapters and it will run for 45 min then start over. I will not get my new 50pz750U until Sat. and wanted to make sure everything works good. I have a new PS3 but will use the Denon over component cables for the break in. Thanks to Evangelo2 for this break in disc.

Also was wondering at what levels you have your brightness and contrast during the break in?

PCW

Do you use the break-in dvd first or calibrate using avia first? I assume you would use the break-in first, just double checking though.

for all the new panasonic owners like myself i found this site from panasonic outlining the settings they recommend for the breaking in period.

I just bought the same plasma. Any ideas on the settings to run the break in yet?

ha count me in also got the same exact model from sears!!!!

here is the link
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/support/FAQs/details-FAQs+for+Plasma+TVs-UCM_PRD_CNT_001993#tv4

i just downloaded the breakin DVD and will have it playing on the ps3 while i go out of town for two days...so far so good the TV is performing well!

Also was wondering at what levels you have your brightness and contrast during the break in?



ditto

does this work with Toshiba A3?

I ordered the Plamsa Break-In DVD-R from Evangelo over two weeks ago now and still have not received anything. I even sent him an email asking what the deal is, and I have yet to hear form him. Evangelo??...what's going on?

I ordered the Plamsa Break-In DVD-R from Evangelo over two weeks ago now and still have not received anything. I even sent him an email asking what the deal is, and I have yet to hear form him. Evangelo??...what's going on?

:confused:
I just downloaded it and burned it to a DVD-R using DVD Decrypter......

I ordered the Plamsa Break-In DVD-R from Evangelo over two weeks ago now and still have not received anything. I even sent him an email asking what the deal is, and I have yet to hear form him. Evangelo??...what's going on?

What's your email address? All disc have been sent out already.
Some went out late (Saturday the 24th and Monday the 26th) because I was on my honeymoon but I emailed everyone and let them know and offered a refund to anybody who ordered before I would be back.

-Evangelo2

Parker,
You keep contacting me but still have never given me your email address. Send me your email address and I can resend the disc or issue you a refund... I think you are the only one who has not received it yet.
-Evangelo2

Having just bought a new plasma, I've been reading the forum regarding break-in (or burn-in) and I found this thread. What I don't quite get is why the need for this special disc. As long as I use full screen movies or tv, and make sure not to use channels with a logo or something like that, won't that work just as well? Is the idea here just to get it over with quickly? Even then, couldn't I just let the tv run all day as long as I have it on an appropriate channel (not logo or other fixed material)? Can somebody help? I understand the concept of burn in, but not why a special disc is required.

Having just bought a new plasma, I've been reading the forum regarding break-in (or burn-in) and I found this thread. What I don't quite get is why the need for this special disc. As long as I use full screen movies or tv, and make sure not to use channels with a logo or something like that, won't that work just as well? Is the idea here just to get it over with quickly? Even then, couldn't I just let the tv run all day as long as I have it on an appropriate channel (not logo or other fixed material)? Can somebody help? I understand the concept of burn in, but not why a special disc is required.

You got the right idea. If you want to vary what you watch, avoid static logos or crawl bars and avoid black bars you can do it yourself as you described. I have DirecTV and if we get some serious rain I will get the searching for Satellite message up on my screen which would be bad if up for a loooong time. The disc is just a way to uniformly break it in since all pixels are lit the same color for the same length of time and the disc also provides a non stop 24 hour source for a signal. You can download it for free and burn it yourself if you would like to try it. I really came up with it along with some others who had similliar ideas here to get through my break in period faster. I wanted to watch NFL games and 2.35:1 movies without having to worry and with having the properly calirated contrast and brightness settings.
-Evangelo2

OK, I might try this. It's amazing to me how many channels actually have logos in them these days. It will be harder than I thought to stick to only channels with no fixed material. I hadn't noticed that before now.

Why in the world do they do that? If it's some form of advertising I don't get the point. I watch PROGRAMS I like, not NETWORKS. I couldn't care less what network I'm watching. Besides don't they know about potential burn in problems?

OK, I might try this. It's amazing to me how many channels actually have logos in them these days. It will be harder than I thought to stick to only channels with no fixed material. I hadn't noticed that before now.

Why in the world do they do that? If it's some form of advertising I don't get the point. I watch PROGRAMS I like, not NETWORKS. I couldn't care less what network I'm watching. Besides don't they know about potential burn in problems?

What makes you think the networks care? :(

The news channels are the freaking worse, my zoom can't get rid of all of their bars (foxnews, cnbc etc.).

I downloaded both the SVCD and DVD versions, and they won't run on my PS3. On the dvd, it's stuck at the beginning, with the SVCD it doesn't even load. Weird, other videos burned run just fine. So I've resorted to the unthinkable, watching tv and movies :)

Just downloaded the ISO file and made a DVD using nero. I see that it has 90 chapters and it will run for 45 min then start over.

This is what I have as well. Can someone confirm it's correct? On Evangelos' site though it says: "This version should be 24 hours in length of the repeating color patterns found in the SVCD."

Amiro this is correct..such is the duration of the cd and then it loops from the beginning!!

Fellows, i need HELP!!!

I am so sad…Unfortunately Burn in hit me too!

I have the Panasonic TH-37pv45 E..

I have followed the procedure described in this site…I have used the cd image for almost 200 hours and I have started using my tv only for my videogaming needs(wii)..
After 150 aprx hours of use, the hud of a game (Metroid Prime 3) is left on my tv…
I have only played the game for the duration of 16 hours in total, but it happened…
It is like some dark patches….

The question now is what can I do?

I have found this site, with this Java applet http://www.jscreenfix.com/basic.php in which you connect the pc to the tv and the applet can help you in a way…
Is it any good guys?
The thing is that the window still has the frame and the taskbar, so I am afraid this can cause more burn in..maybe if zoom the picture?

Please help me…I don’t have many knowledge on this matter and I didn’t really expect the burn in to happen, even after the 200 hrs of the Break in..

Thank you very much in advance!!

This is what I have as well. Can someone confirm it's correct? On Evangelos' site though it says: "This version should be 24 hours in length of the repeating color patterns found in the SVCD."

It is just fine. That is how it is supposed to show up. Put it in your DVD player and I will promise (99% guaranteed) that it will run far beyond 45 minutes. It was explained earlier in this thread (I am pretty sure that it was this one) and mine runs all day/night when I leave it in.

Just give it a shot and you will see. :)

I stated about a week or so ago that I purchased a burn-in DVD from Evangelos and still had not received it after waiting several weeks and after several attempts to contact him. I was completely wrong in the matter...because my roomate picked up my mail for me and forgot to pass it along. So, apologies to Evangelos and if you need to order a break-in disc then he is the one to contact.

Just got a new panasonic 50pz700u yesterday. I was looking for a good (and fast) way to break in the tv and found this thread. In case this helps anyone, I downloaded the NRG file, burnt with Nero to DVD-R and played in my original Xbox. Works great.

Thanks Evangelo2!

Hip

I have downloaded the .nrg, .iso and Video TS files but need some help with NeroVision Express 2. I am not really familiar with Nero. Could someone walk me through Nero or send a link?

Thanks!

Since yesterday i am trying to copy ISO file for my paslma breakin usine nero 8 trial version, i am out of luck i am getting error every time i am trying to burn this ISO image, can anyone walk me how to burn iso image for dvd players using nero?

Hi, I just downloaded and burned the dvd-r version of this disk. One question though.. Is it normal to have whites/grays most of the time? I have my first plasma tv coming in next week and am getting prepared. Thanks

Hi, I just downloaded and burned the dvd-r version of this disk. One question though.. Is it normal to have whites/grays most of the time? I have my first plasma tv coming in next week and am getting prepared. Thanks

If you sit & watch it for a bit you should see reds, blues & greens as well......I know mine seems to spend a lot of time on whites/greys but it always switches to the others as well.

Yes it does change. So it is normal to see lots of whites/grays? I think i burned it correctly then. Thanks Rottluver

Yes it does change. So it is normal to see lots of whites/grays? I think i burned it correctly then. Thanks Rottluver

No problem. Sounds like it is working just fine. :)
Don't know if the whites/greys are actually on the screen more or if it just seems that way, but when my disc is running, it seems to me that the whites/greys are there more then the others. I wouldn't worry about it.

I also don't think it would work if you hadn't D/L'ed it correctly. I am guessing that nothing would show up, no colors at all, if you had done it wrong. I am sure the guy who was so awesome as to provide this DVD for us could tell us for sure, but with a lot of computer programs, if you don't D/L it right, it just doesn't work.

On another note, I was really disappointed with the SD picture on my 5054 the first couple days I had it. Then I D/L'ed this DVD and after about 100 hours of use (viewing and break-in disc) my wife & I noticed a HUGE improvement. I understand that it gets better (even more so) after 200-250 and again some after 1000. I can't wait. :)

Hi All,

Just bought a Panasonic TH37PX70, and stumbled across this thread; well worth doing I thought!!!

Sorry but I'm a bit of a PC duffer so this is what I did...

Blagged Nero 6, d/led the nrg file, unzipped in into a folder then double clicked it. Nero kicked in and I basically just clicked 'determine max speed' and 'simulate', ('writre' was already checked) then clicked 'burn'. Everything seemed to work, and the disc popped out....however, when I tried it in my DVD player (it's an old Toshiba 370, but it should support SVCD, though I've never tried), and it just kept loading, as did my PS2. When I try to browse the drive via Explorer, the PC hangs until I eject the disc.

Then I noticed that the CD-R was only certified up to 8x (also pretty old), so I did the same thing again but selected 8x; this time the DVD player reported a 'disc error', but the same as before with the PC and PS2.

Have I done something daft?!

Nero thinks the size of image is 664Mb, though there are 2 tracks, both 'data (mode 2)', with the first being 581Mb, and the second being 582Mb, which seems to match the blue gauge at the bottom of the screen. Does this sound right?

Any help would be really appreciated!!!

Cheers...

I apologize if this has been answered already. I've done some searching, and read multiple threads, but cannot seem to find my answer: does it matter what the connection method is going from my DVD player to my plasma when running the break-in DVD? My 5884 will be arriving soon, and currently I still have a really crappy DVD player - it only has analog connections. Logic tells me that what's on the screen is all that matters. This will be with the recommended break-in settings for my display. Please correct me if I'm wrong - I want to do this right. Thanks!

Ok I played my xbox 360 on my new Panasonic 42PZ77U, but not for long periods of time, no burn-ins, can i still use the break in dvd?

Thanks

So, is THIS the break-in dvd I'm supposed to use, or is the one that D-Nice links to the one? And what's the difference?

Thanks.

Ok I played my xbox 360 on my new Panasonic 42PZ77U, but not for long periods of time, no burn-ins, can i still use the break in dvd?

Thanks

Yes you can still use it. I ran my TV for 5-7 days before I knew about the break-in DVD and it is great. After 100 hours or so (total viewing + running the break-in DVD) the picture quality improved SOOOO much and the IR goes away almost instantly. Get the DVD and use it religiously for 100-250 hours (you can still watch TV in between ;) )
So, is THIS the break-in dvd I'm supposed to use, or is the one that D-Nice links to the one? And what's the difference?

Thanks.

I don't know anything about D-Nice's DVD or any differences between the two, but this one is amazing IMHO and works wonders. My PQ is 10000x better then the day I first started watching it and it keeps getting better all the time. :D :cool:

Ah ive been reading this forum, and trying to use this dvd but i cant. I dont think my dvd player plays svcd. And i cant get my computers to play them either. Im using stuff it on a macbook pro to unzip it. Do i need nero or something to unzip and burn it. It seems like it works find but nothing will play the dvd.

Ah ive been reading this forum, and trying to use this dvd but i cant. I dont think my dvd player plays svcd. And i cant get my computers to play them either. Im using stuff it on a macbook pro to unzip it. Do i need nero or something to unzip and burn it. It seems like it works find but nothing will play the dvd.

Try the DVD-R version. It works on more players and plays longer. The SVCD version should 100% play in windows media player if you burn it right.
-Evangelo2

Shameless bump for someone to hopefully answer my question posted above. :o

I suspect I'm gonna have problems burning the break-in dvd--my computer's been on the fritz lately. Is there somewhere one can buy a copy of the break-in dvd?

I suspect I'm gonna have problems burning the break-in dvd--my computer's been on the fritz lately. Is there somewhere one can buy a copy of the break-in dvd?

http://www.eaprogramming.com/

As linked by the OP in post #1.

guys, I have a problem here. I used the DVD version but my mac mini simply refuse to resume the playback after the first color run....which is like 30seconds? and then it just stuck there.....

is it due to mac mini problem?

I downloaded the ISO version and ripped it using my DVD burner on my laptop using this program called Active ISO which you can find at download dot com.
worked like a charm (via my xbox dvd player)

Should I leave the contrast and brightness to maximum when using the break-in DVD? I have seen some image retention on my 42" Pannie and getting worried. It's only been used 35 hours or so.

Should I leave the contrast and brightness to maximum when using the break-in DVD? I have seen some image retention on my 42" Pannie and getting worried. It's only been used 35 hours or so.

Absolutely NOT!

Contrast and Brightness should be left at calibrated levels.

-Evangelo2

I just got my 42PZ700U day before yesterday. I played it around 2 hours (picture/brightness/etc at 0) and then threw in the break-in DVD (many thanks for that). I let it roll for 25mins or so (all settings still at 0). Then I turned everything off and went to bed. Next morning, I let the DVD pick up where it left off while I got ready for work. A few minutes later, when I checked on the TV, I noticed that the DVD was playing, but my TV had no picture, and the power light was blinking. After a few mins of calming myself down, I decided to leave the tv unplugged and took off. At work, I got on here and searched around and read about Panasonic's power issues (I haven't had the tv for more than 15hours, and had not used it for more than 2.5hrs!). Bruzzi's chart indicated that the 10 blinks = something possibly with the DG board. I couldn't sit still at work, so i went back home (i live close to work :o).. plugged the TV in, and now it worked fine. Obviously it had been unplugged for over one hour and it had reset. I am assuming whatever happened was a safety catch put in by Panasonic (maybe polluted power?)

That evening, I watched TV for a while, had no problems.. next morning (today), I popped in the break-in disc again. It ran the whole disc just fine the first time and then was repeating itself, around minute 10, it went off again. Same thing, 10 blinks.

I am now waiting with the tv unplugged to see if it will come back up after an hour (is there a way to manually reset it, while its in this 'blink' state?...anyone?)

So, am I correct in assuming that the TV draw more power in order to display the solid colors on this DVD, like the whites? note: all my settings are at 0

Pro-150FD just delivered. I'm an apple user. I'm having problems running the break in dvd. I have downloaded the files and burned them on a DVD_R. I then get error readings that the Tosh A2 HD-DVD player can't read or play the dvd. Can anybody help me? Do I need a separate s/w program?
Thanks.
Tim

Pro-150FD just delivered. I'm an apple user. I'm having problems running the break in dvd. I have downloaded the files and burned them on a DVD_R. I then get error readings that the Tosh A2 HD-DVD player can't read or play the dvd. Can anybody help me? Do I need a separate s/w program?
Thanks.
Tim

I am also getting the same error or message on my A2.

Can anybody help?

Can anybody help?
timatraw, Do you have a regular stand-alone DVD player you could try the disc on? Or on your PC/MAC using your favorite video playback software.

If the computer is detecting it as files on the disc, instead of a DVD-Video, the problem might be with the way the DVD was authored.

I download and burned the ISO. When played, all I see is a white screen. I played the DVD on an Sony DVD player and Toshiba HD-A3.

Just double checking to make sure that's what I'm supposed to see? Can someone confirm?

It's solid white for about a minute or 2, then it begins alternating shades/colors every 30 seconds.

timatraw, Do you have a regular stand-alone DVD player you could try the disc on? Or on your PC/MAC using your favorite video playback software.

If the computer is detecting it as files on the disc, instead of a DVD-Video, the problem might be with the way the DVD was authored.

I have an A-2 and a BDP-95 player that Im testing the disc on. I keep getting errors that the players are unable to read the discs.

Is it a disc image that Im burning? Do i download-then unzip then burn?
Could someone give me an idiot-proof step by step procedure from download to playing the dvd?

Thanks.

I just got a 42" Samsung but I am not home to set it up. I downloaded and burned the Break-in DVD and tested it on my parent's 46" LCD TV and DVD Player. When played, the colors do not fill up the full screen. There is actually about a 3" border all the way around the changing colors. Should it be like this?

When I get home, I will be playing this DVD off a PS2. Shouldn't the colors take up the full screen? I'll post back if I have the same problem when I get it setup in 2 days.

@Timatraw
1. Download the Zipped File
2. Extract the Folder inside the zipped file
3. Open the folder and there should be a file called "EA_BREAKIN_DVD.ISO"
4. Use your favorite burning software to burn the iso. I personally like imgburn. www (dot) imgburn (dot) com - can't post urls until i have 3 posts :(
4 (a) If you have imgburn installed, just right click on the iso, and go to open with - imgburn.
5. Insert blank DVD and Click the button near the bottom left of a "Hard drive to DVD" to burn the ISO. You should be ready to break-in your new plasma after the burn is complete.

timatraw,
You haver to use the right program to burn the disc. You cant just copy the iso or nrg file onto a CD-R or DVD-R and have it play. That is a disc image and does not get played by the player.

hansoffate,
Every pixel should be lit when playing the disc. There should be no border anywhere. This could be something going on with the PS2 playing the dsic.
-Evangelo2

I just got a 42" Samsung but I am not home to set it up. I downloaded and burned the Break-in DVD and tested it on my parent's 46" LCD TV and DVD Player. When played, the colors do not fill up the full screen. There is actually about a 3" border all the way around the changing colors. Should it be like this?

When I get home, I will be playing this DVD off a PS2. Shouldn't the colors take up the full screen? I'll post back if I have the same problem when I get it setup in 2 days.

@Timatraw
1. Download the Zipped File
2. Extract the Folder inside the zipped file
3. Open the folder and there should be a file called "EA_BREAKIN_DVD.ISO"
4. Use your favorite burning software to burn the iso. I personally like imgburn. www (dot) imgburn (dot) com - can't post urls until i have 3 posts :(
4 (a) If you have imgburn installed, just right click on the iso, and go to open with - imgburn.
5. Insert blank DVD and Click the button near the bottom left of a "Hard drive to DVD" to burn the ISO. You should be ready to break-in your new plasma after the burn is complete.

I used my ps2 and the breakin dvd with my samsung 5884. It does not fill up the entire screen could be something with the ps2. simply just change the mode to wide or zoom and it will fill up the entire screen with no issues. Hope this helps.

I FINALLY downloaded the break-in dvd (image iso) on a cd-r.
It is now playing on my new BDP-95 and breaking in my PRO-150FD!
Thanks hansoffate and Evangelo2 for your help.

@briang191 and Evangelo2
Thanks for the help. I zoomed in the picture so that it takes up the full display. I have been breaking in my new Sammy for about 2 hours now with the settings detailed here -
www (dot) samsungplasmatvfaq (dot) com/index.php/Display_settings#Break-In_and_Low_Hours_Settings

@timatraw
No problem. Hoped my step by step guide was mostly correct. I was doing it from memory because I was using a Mac at the time.

I downloaded the ISO version and ripped it using my DVD burner on my laptop using this program called Active ISO which you can find at download dot com.
worked like a charm (via my xbox dvd player)

The above post should become a sticky, as I was not confident that this process would work smoothly, but I just followed the above poster's instructions, and everything worked perfectly! I'm nearly done the 100 hour burn-in now, and the DVD worked flawlessly using the above instructions. Actually, the DVD played perfectly well on the first DVD unit I tried, but the other player we own would not display the disk, so if you follow the above process and the DVD does not work, then try a different DVD player.

Thanks blake22w!

Hi, Evangelo et al ... I'd really like to use this marvelous tool for my 2-day old Panny plasma, but I haven't been able to successfully burn it. I've tried all versions of your download, used Nero 6.0, Nero Express, and DVD Decrypter, all with varying amounts of failure. What I have noticed on each, though, is that the zip file is about 12MB, and when I unzip it, the file(s) that I'm trying to burn to SVCD/DVD amount to about 430MB ... on your download page, you refer to a zip file of about 2MB and an uncompressed file size of ~700MB... is that still accurate, and if so - what am I doing wrong?

I have both a CD and DVD burner, various software for burning with (altho I'm a newbie to the world of DVD burning) ... the only finished product that would actually play in my DVD player (which plays multiple formats) was a the DVD I burned using your ISO download in DVD Decrypter ... when played, it was a white screen that lasted about 2 minutes, then started over.

:confused: Any help from someone who has a simple, fool-proof method would be appreciated... :o

*10 minutes later* ... OK, I just tried the method in the post immediately prior to mine ... burned the ISO version using Active @ ISO ... again, it wouldn't play and the finished product is about 436MB when burned onto a CD ... am I jinxed????

*couple hours later* ... so, just before chucking this CD, I decided to plop it in my PC to see what happened ... the windows dialogue box came up asking what I wanted to do with it, so I chose "View with Nero Showtime", and to my amazement, something started to play. It has "90 chapters", and the run time is about 45 minutes (which doesn't sound right), but at least it is the various gradients from white-colour, about 30 sec of each, as described. But why only 45 min worth?

*few minutes later* ... ok, so after closer inspection via Windows MediaPlayer, it appears there are 32 titles (45 min per title), each with 90 chapters... 32 x 45 min = 24 hours. My apologies for doing all this "thinking out loud" in here, but I think I've solved this myself. Now, if only it will play in my DVD player at home .... *crossing fingers*

Hello Everyone,

I just bought a Panasonic TH-42PZ77 Plasma TV and I am interested in using this Break-In CD on my television as it hasn't been used yet. I have done my best to read over this thread, however I haven't found the answer to my question - Do you need a HD DVD player, or an upscaling DVD player in order to use this CD, or will a normal DVD player (Fist Generation Xbox) work just as well?

Thanks

First, a big TY! to Evangelo2 for setting this up. I'm at Hour 72 & counting.:D

LisaandMike: Are you using Nero? It sounds like you might be. If so, D/L the Video_TS version, Open Nero, pick DVD when you have a choice of CD or DVD, choose DVDVideo, find the folder you D/L'ed the TS files to in the explorer window, drag the entire TS folder you've D/L'ed to the area for files (drag files from the right side to the left side of your screen), click on burn. Done!

zoAr: I have a regular DVD player, not even upconverting. My entire screen on my 50" is filled & it appears to be working fine. Now, if I'm wrong about this, please - someone correct me. But near as I can tell, no need for any sort of special DVD player.

First, a big TY! to Evangelo2 for setting this up. I'm at Hour 72 & counting.:D

LisaandMike: Are you using Nero? It sounds like you might be. If so, D/L the Video_TS version, Open Nero, pick DVD when you have a choice of CD or DVD, choose DVDVideo, find the folder you D/L'ed the TS files to in the explorer window, drag the entire TS folder you've D/L'ed to the area for files (drag files from the right side to the left side of your screen), click on burn. Done!

zoAr: I have a regular DVD player, not even upconverting. My entire screen on my 50" is filled & it appears to be working fine. Now, if I'm wrong about this, please - someone correct me. But near as I can tell, no need for any sort of special DVD player.


Tried all that and several other programs but just couldn't get it to work...so, I imported the VOB files into Adobe Premier and mad a movie it seemed to work except the video files flash several different colors at a high rate of speed and I thought I read somewhere that the colors are supposed change gradually after 30 sec/each color. So did I do that correctly? Should the colors be flashing quickly?

I'll try Nero again as you explained and see if it will work.
Thanks!
Mike

Tried all that and several other programs but just could'nt get it to work...so, I impoerted the VOB files into Adobe Premier and mad a movie it seemed to work except the video files flash several different colors at a high rate of speed and I thought I read somewhere that the colors are supposed change gradually after 30 sec/each color. So did I do that correctly?

That doesn't sound right. Mine doesn't gradually change, but each color does stay on the screen for 30 seconds.

I have a non-progressive scan, non-upconverting DVD player ($40 Apex from Wally World that's several years old now.. something else to upgrade). The colors fill the entire screen.

FWIW, my copy did end up playing fine in my DVD player, I'm working on about 30 hrs now and counting. The DVD Decrypter method worked for me, via a CD burner, on a CD-R disc. My DVD player is also a cheapo (wanted something to play DivX) so I doubt it's progressive scan or anything.

One thought, tho ... traditionally, all colours are created thru various degrees of Cyan (blue), Magenta (reddish), Yellow and Black (hence the often seen CMYK 4-colour process references for colour printers, etc.) ... is plasma colour created differently? If it isn't, then this DVD isn't really 'exercising' the yellow pixels equally, since the green steps are a combo of the blue and yellow, and there is no yellow on its own. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that ... :confused:

:o:o:owell....helps to follow direction explicitly otherwise you can burn DVD+R's all day long and they won't work. After burn'n about 15-20 DVD+r's and downloading and trying at least four different dvd burn programs I realized I was using DVD+R's where the requirements specifically state DVD-R disks are needed. So, burned the NRG version on to a DVD-R and WALLA! IT WORKS!

Thanks for your help and the DVD!!! Can't wait to get fully burned in and enjoy my plasma to it's fullest!
Blessings!
Mike

Panasonic TH-50PX75U

I have a Toshiba A3 & about to use the DVD-R - question:
after 24 hours does the disc automatically repeats or do I have to set my player to auto repeat (loop)?

I have a Toshiba A3 & about to use the DVD-R - question:
after 24 hours does the disc automatically repeats or do I have to set my player to auto repeat (loop)?

I never left mine in for 24 hours at a pop so this is just based on what I have read here........sounds to me like you need to cycle it (the DVD) once every 24 hours and you should probably power your TV on and off in that time as well. Though it seems to me that the program should just continually cycle endlessly..........but it probably can't hurt to shut off your TV & DVD player once a day or so. ;)

Regarding the use of the Plasma Break-in DVD, does it make a difference what setting the DVD player is set to? In other words, should the DVD player be set to progressive scan at 480p, 720p or 1080i for a 50" screen?

One thought, tho ... traditionally, all colours are created thru various degrees of Cyan (blue), Magenta (reddish), Yellow and Black (hence the often seen CMYK 4-colour process references for colour printers, etc.) ... is plasma colour created differently? If it isn't, then this DVD isn't really 'exercising' the yellow pixels equally, since the green steps are a combo of the blue and yellow, and there is no yellow on its own. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that ... :confused:You are correct for the color settings using ink. However, light generation is a bit different than light absorbtion. For light, you use green, blue and red to produce white. For ink, you would use green, blue and red to produce black.

There are only green, blue and red pixels in a television.

Regarding the use of the Plasma Break-in DVD, does it make a difference what setting the DVD player is set to? In other words, should the DVD player be set to progressive scan at 480p, 720p or 1080i for a 50" screen?

No difference. The most important thing is that it is set to output for a widescreen tv.

-Evangelo2

Should the contrast and brightness be set to a certain level when running the disk?

No difference. The most important thing is that it is set to output for a widescreen tv.

-Evangelo2

Just to add to that, you need to ensure that the color screens from the DVD cover the entire screen/viewable area on your TV. I have read about a few people who initially run it with the black side or top bars (letterbox/4:3) and that won't help you out correctly.

Enjoy, I loved my break-in DVD and REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY appreciate Evangelo's hard work and helpfulness!!!!!!!

Should the contrast and brightness be set to a certain level when running the disk?

YESSSSSSSS. I used Zippy's break-in settings and it seemed to make a phenomenal difference!!!

Here is the link:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=841319

Those settings are for a Samsung. I have a Philips. I am thinking that the contrasr and brightness should be set low?

My bad, I didn't catch that........sorry.

Thanks for the reply. It's running...

my white-to-gray transition is not gradual but the other three (blue, red, green) are. it says bright white for 30 secs, changes to light grey and stays for 90 secs, then again goes back to bright white for another 30 sec and so on. I never see dark gray. and it is definitely not gradual.

this same thing happened both with ISO (burned with DVD Decrypter) and VIDEO_TS (burned with Nero) format. and it happened on my laptop pc, desktop pc, normal tv, and plasma tv.

I didn't read anyone having such a problem, so what am I doing wrong here? any help?

I bought the Samsung 4254 about 3 weeks ago and have been watching regular TV with settings adjusted to Zippy's recommendations. I've also been running the scrolling pattern overnight once a week. Break in just by watching has been slow, so I'm going to download and run the DVD while I'm at work.

I have been thinking of something though. I was watching the BCS Championship game the other night, and left the room after the game with it still on the same channel. The shows afterward weren't broadcast in HD, so of course there were bars on the side. It was on for about an hour or so and when I returned, I changed the channel and noticed a bit of IR due to the bars. I immediately ran the scrolling pattern and went to bed. When I got up the next morning, all signs of them had disappeared.

My question is this.....when the TV experiences IR before the recommended break-in period, are the phosphors damaged in any way making them more susceptible to IR or burn-in in the future or should everything be okay?

I apologize if this question has been asked and answered, but due to the massive amount of info on this forum regarding this model plasma alone, it would take me weeks to get through it all. :)

TIA

Evangelo2 - pardon my "noobness" but I was just reading about your breaking-in DVD and am curious as to how it works. I am going to buy a Pioneer 5010 so I'm just getting prepared.

If there is a break-in period of 100-200 hours how do you use the DVD? Leave it in for 100 hours straight? I use my ps3 as my dvd player as well so hopefully it's compatible with your DVD.

Thanks for your help!

Geoff

It plays for 24 hours straight. I used it for about 16 hour clips at a time.
I would let my tv rest a few hours a day.

If you search through this thread you will find answers to many questions. Hope this helps.

-Evangelo2

Great, thanks Evangelo. Yeah, I've been researching on the thread here and there, but appreciate the direct response. Have a good one!

G

Evangelo2 - pardon my "noobness" but I was just reading about your breaking-in DVD and am curious as to how it works. I am going to buy a Pioneer 5010 so I'm just getting prepared.

If there is a break-in period of 100-200 hours how do you use the DVD? Leave it in for 100 hours straight? I use my ps3 as my dvd player as well so hopefully it's compatible with your DVD.

Thanks for your help!

Geoff

I used his break-in DVD on my PS3 and it worked like a champ!!!! You should have no problem. :cool:

Which format is used for the PS3? I tried that once but the PS3 didn't recognize the content on the DVD-R. I need to use the PS3 because my DVD player won't play DVD-R.

Chas

Which format is used for the PS3? I tried that once but the PS3 didn't recognize the content on the DVD-R. I need to use the PS3 because my DVD player won't play DVD-R.

Chas

I D/L'd the ISO version to my desktop (PC) and then burned it to a DVD-R using DVD Decrypter. No issues, no problems, did it all on the first try (downloading, burning, running it on PS3).

Give that a shot and see if it works for ya.

Good luck.

Just out of curiosity, I'm about to buy a Pio 5080, I already have an HTPC with an HDMI hookup. Do I need to burn this at all? Can I just play the file and have the PC loop it?

I've downloaded (but not yet burned) the DVD. I'm on the verge of buying. I should break it in but I'm already unhappy to have to wait so long for full use. (Especially given the divided opinion about the need for break-in.) Would it still be useful to watch with normal settings and run the DVD at other times at reduced settings? Can I have my cake and eat it too?

Rick

rskay,
I think its safe to watch at normal (that means calibrated, not Dynamic or Vivid settings which is normal for a lot of people) settings when you are watching the tv and turn down the settings when the disc is playing. One thing I would avoid is black bars though. Just zoom the picture or stretch the picture to get rid of black bars. Besides OAR DVD's greater than 16:0 ratio you should not really have to deal with black bars. Many cable boxes have options to make the black bars grey and after you see what HD looks like on it you won't want to watch anything that is 4:3 anyway :)
-Evangelo2

I downloaded the DVD.. Burned it... Put it in for like 5min and took it out...

I don't like what the dvd does... The whole changing color thing I think works in theory.. just don't see it working realistically. I think watching HD programming would do a better job since all the pixels are constantly changing at fast rates and hopefully preventing some from being stuck on whatever color.

I downloaded the DVD.. Burned it... Put it in for like 5min and took it out...

I don't like what the dvd does... The whole changing color thing I think works in theory.. just don't see it working realistically. I think watching HD programming would do a better job since all the pixels are constantly changing at fast rates and hopefully preventing some from being stuck on whatever color.

Doesn't really work like that. Stuck pixels are stuck pixels. Displaying a color for 30 seconds won't make a pixel get stuck.

Watching HD programming is actually perfectly fine but the rates at which they are changing is not a part of breaking it in. For Break in it is just improtant to not have any high contrast points on the screen for long periods of time. Some plasmas are more sensitive than others. My Pio is pretty resistent to any image retention but my sisters Samsung 1080p palsma is highly prone to it. Her TV is still very young so hopefully it will grow out of this strong IR habit.

Sorry, got off track, my only point is that quickly changeing images is not what is important, uniformly lit pixels aging at the same rate is.

-Evangelo2

Thanks Evangelo2. And thanks for the DVD!