Download Break In DVD (SVCD) [Text View] - Page 5

Evangelo2

04-27-09, 02:01 PM

That's what I and many others been asking for months and no one will answer it. D-Nice (torch mode) and Evangelo (low contrast) refuse to address it. :confused:

This has been adressed in the past. Here is a response I wrote a long time ago about this...

Well, as far as Contras and Brightness is concerned, I would say use very low settings. You should especially do this if you will not be keeping a close eye on your plasma while the disc is running. This is just to prevent any errors that may come up in your dvd player (I've never had this happen before and enver heard of anyone else having it happen but it can be a possibility).

-Evangelo2

There are basically two schools of thought, none of which is incorrect...

1 - Low Contrast/Brightness - The main reason to do this is a precaution sao that if anything goes wrong with your DVD player or TV durring unattended running of the breakin dvd or images, you will minimize the risk of doing any damage. Risk is minimized because the brightness and contrast is low. Break in *may* take a little longer when using the disc like this but I feel it is safer and go this route myself, since I prefer to err on the side of caution.

2 - Torch Mode - In torch mode, you are more intensly displaying the images, thus breaking in the plasma MUCH faster. Downside is that if something goes wrong (and of course it shouldn't, but this is an imperfect world and unexcpected things do happen), you have a much higher chance of getting serious burn in (permanent IR) that may not be correctable.

The choice of which way to go is up to the individual. Both mehtods are technically and logically sound, just a different perspective.

Keep in mind, when using my preferred method (very low cotrast and brightness), you should switch to calibrated settings when you want to watch something durring the break in period and avoid black bars as well as high contrast static images that can be on the screen for a long time (e.g. CNN or ESPN tickers...).

dvarenne, permanent burn in can tsill happen after break in but you really have to abuse the set to do this. You may see temporary Image Retention (I used to see this when I would first turn the tv off after playing some xbos for a while) but that should clear up with 5 minutes of varied full screen viewing.

-Evangelo2

Clint S.

04-28-09, 12:21 AM

There are basically two schools of thought, none of which is incorrect...

1 - Low Contrast/Brightness - The main reason to do this is a precaution sao that if anything goes wrong with your DVD player or TV durring unattended running of the breakin dvd or images, you will minimize the risk of doing any damage. Risk is minimized because the brightness and contrast is low. Break in *may* take a little longer when using the disc like this but I feel it is safer and go this route myself, since I prefer to err on the side of caution.

2 - Torch Mode - In torch mode, you are more intensly displaying the images, thus breaking in the plasma MUCH faster. Downside is that if something goes wrong (and of course it shouldn't, but this is an imperfect world and unexcpected things do happen), you have a much higher chance of getting serious burn in (permanent IR) that may not be correctable.

The choice of which way to go is up to the individual. Both mehtods are technically and logically sound, just a different perspective.
Finally, and explanation, thank you. The low contrast and brightness settings are starting to make more sense because I've recently heard 3 or 4 more Kuro users say that their break-in images for unknown reasons stopped and went back to the HMG menu or DVD menu where they remained for hours. This happened on both the USB and DVD methods.

dvarenne

04-30-09, 02:15 PM

Evangelo2

04-30-09, 02:26 PM

I called Panasonic today and asked a tech guy there about the break-in slide show. He likened it to "Voodoo", and went on to say that it is akin to the advice people get about how fast to drive their new cars. He told me to avoid prolonged viewing of programming with black bars and things like the "NFL Draft" all day, at least for the first 100 hours. I asked about a mix of video games and full screen programming, and he said that was fine. He told me to avoid using the "Vivid" mode at first.

The guy actually told you what we say here at AVS, break in your plasma :) No voo-doo there. And it is a known fact that the break in disc is totally optional. You can just as well break in your plasma by varrying viewing, using calibratd settings (not Vivid), avoiding black bars and high contrast static images (like the NFL draft) for 100 hours. The only problem, for me at least, is that I don't get to watch much tv so 100 hours would take me a loooong time. The break in disc, or slide show, gives you a perfectly uniform image that is safer to run unattended than some tv channel and can get you through those first 100-200 hours faster than it would take using varried viewing methods. This lets you get to the 100 hours so you can watch that sports event in a week by getting through the first 100 hours quickly.

-Evangelo2

mattg3

05-03-09, 07:24 AM

jackte50

05-03-09, 11:51 AM

mattg3

05-04-09, 10:36 AM

I guess no one comes to this thread

techfreak85

05-04-09, 12:41 PM

Ok im assuming that the breakin DVD is not just a whiteish screen? is this correct? I Burned using DVD-r. Help....?
Does the same thing on my computer and bluray player says length is only 44 mins long. toast recognized as 23 hours.
Edit:
OHHH ok i think i see its a 44 min cycle repeated okok..... and the color changes at each chapter....

Clint S.

05-04-09, 10:19 PM

Can I use a cheap rca only connection dvd player to run the break in disc. It would be connected through rca cables? I figure this will take the strain off running the disc for 150 hours on a new blue ray player.
I don't see why not as long as the images are full screen. I don't think you can get true HD from composite, but whether or not the images should be made full screen with no side bars.

Clint S.

05-04-09, 10:25 PM

I have an older DVD player that does not support SVCD. I will probably get a Bluray player but spent all my money on a Pioneer F111 elite, which is arriving this week. I also have a Mac with a DVD burner but is there any compatibility problems? What do I do? Thanks!
I know of a least one person that tried creating the DVD on a Mac and had problems. So you may just want to use the USB drive.

jackte50

05-07-09, 07:37 PM

Thanks-will try out the USB drive!

pablo16

05-10-09, 05:32 PM

I am also having trouble with running this on my macmini (my only dvd player). I used this with my other Panny Plasma with my old Denon without an issue, but can't get this working on my Macmini...Any help appreciated..

Thanks

pablo16

05-10-09, 06:24 PM

go the macmini to work with dvdcopy...downside is it's letter box and it won't allow my to change the format...argghh!!

dvarenne

05-14-09, 09:36 AM

Can I use a cheap rca only connection dvd player to run the break in disc.It would be connected through rca cables?I figure this will take the strain off running the disc for 150 hours on a new blue ray player.

I started doing just this with my old DVD player. I made sure the images fill up the whole screen and let it run! I hope the break-in will work just as well with 480i images as 1080p! I've set it to VIVID w/D-Nice's settings.

Tampa Tom

05-20-09, 04:30 PM

Hello! I have my computer hooked up to my plasma. Any way to just run this off the computer without having to burn it to disc? Just curious!

vid33nyc1

05-20-09, 06:23 PM

What would be the recommended contrast and brightness for breaking in a plasma?

Clint S.

05-22-09, 12:44 AM

Hello! I have my computer hooked up to my plasma. Any way to just run this off the computer without having to burn it to disc? Just curious!
Just use the USB drive method.

Clint S.

05-22-09, 12:44 AM

What would be the recommended contrast and brightness for breaking in a plasma?
Which plasma TV?

Chere

05-26-09, 12:46 PM

I'm having problems adjusting the time gap between each slide to 30 seconds on my thumb drive. For some reason, each color slide stays on for 10 seconds instead of 30 before it moves on to the next slide on my sammy PN50A650. Can someone help me by telling me how i can fix this on my computer? Any help is greatly appreciated.

stoldark

05-26-09, 05:02 PM

For those able to output from a pc to tv, I put this together. It approximates the same thing (switching colors every few seconds): http://stoldark.com/misc/plasma_breakin.html

Just navigate there with a browser and click on the flash video to get it to go full screen. It repeats indefinitely until you hit esc, so no worrying about player conflicts, discs, images, etc.. It just works. The only thing I haven't tested for is performance consistency (do the frames slowly take longer to transition) since I haven't run it for a long period of time. I plan on doing that over the next few days though. I'll keep you guys posted.

narend

05-29-09, 10:29 PM

Just burned the Video_TS version to DVD+R. This seems to be a set of full single color slides that change color every 30 seconds or so. Is that right?

Thanks.

Clint S.

05-30-09, 03:43 AM

Just burned the Video_TS version to DVD+R. This seems to be a set of full single color slides that change color every 30 seconds or so. Is that right?

Thanks.
For the USB drive images, yes. But it's not 30 sec for the DVD method. It seems to vary a lot from a few seconds to ~3 minutes, at least when looking at the TS images on a media player.

timmorris

06-01-09, 04:39 AM

For those of use whose player doesn't have a repeat disc mode Sony BDP-S5550, how long does the DVD-R version last?

Clint S.

06-01-09, 05:17 AM

For those of use whose player doesn't have a repeat disc mode Sony BDP-S5550, how long does the DVD-R version last?
43-44 minutes. You can't repeat a disk on the S5550?

timmorris

06-01-09, 05:49 AM

There's nothing in the manual about it, and I haven't managed to pick up anything on the on screen menus. I'll try starting it from the last title and see what happens.

Tim

timmorris

06-01-09, 01:05 PM

It seems to loop round to the beginning - perhaps the disc is authored that way. I only had my TH58-PF11 delivered today, so I haven't had that much time to let the disc run. Great blacks - even straight out of the box.

whityfrd

06-02-09, 08:08 AM

im having some problems with the length of the disc. seems to stop and go back to the dvd player header screen somewhere between 5-9 hours. i say 5-9 hours because i went to bed after 5 and woke up 4 hours later and the set was in standby mode and the dvd player had shut itself off because the disc had ended. its a fairly old magnavox dvd player i borrowed from the back room for this intended use only. i downloaded the iso file and burned to a dvd-r. can anyone point me in the direction on how to get more length out of this disc? or is it just that many hours and i have to babysit this thing? thanks in advance.

Evangelo2

06-02-09, 09:27 AM

whityfrd,

Evangelo2

06-02-09, 09:28 AM

whityfrd,
Are you sure you downloaded the DVD-R version and not the SVCD version. The SVCD version doesn't play for as long as the DVD-R version.
-Evangelo2

whityfrd

06-02-09, 10:45 AM

Well its the three downloads listed at the top of the page by the description. I see the svcd listed at the bottom of the page also. I know i downloaded the iso file for the top one. File opened as a straight iso file and burned that right to the disc. I see high number of chapters on the disc and the run time. Is there a chance my dvd player does not play chapters that high? 30-40 chapters maybe on the disc?

altern8

06-02-09, 04:26 PM

i tested the ISO on my toshiba HD-DVD player and besides 2-3 shades of grey, it display nothing else ... i then switch to the SD card solution and have been running ever since ... does it matter its set to cycle the color at a 10 sec interval vs 30 sec?

Clint S.

06-03-09, 11:03 PM

azncarbos

06-10-09, 01:30 AM

Thanks for the Download! I just receive my Samsung plasma today...and currently running it off my Xbox.....

DarqueKnight

06-11-09, 04:02 PM

Introduction

The main criticism of the Hitachi 55HDT52 plasma HDTV (720p native resolution) has been its lower black levels relative to competing brands. When I was shopping for a plasma display for my home theater three years ago, I was willing to give up some black level performance because of the Hitachi's price, features, and appealing aesthetics. Black levels are important because a display's ability to accurately reproduce black as black, rather than as a dark shade of gray, forms the foundation of its ability to reproduce other colors vividly and in a three dimensional fashion.

Immediately after setting up my Pioneer Elite BFD-09FD Blu-ray player, I noticed enhanced black levels and more detail and three dimensionality in the picture. This increased my interest in acquiring a plasma television with better black level performance. During my research on other plasma displays, I ran across a plasma display break in tool developed by Evangelos Angelides which displays a succession of full-screen color slides that works all the phosphor colors (pure red, pure blue, pure green, five shades of the three primary colors, and white). The tool is a DVD image file that you burn onto a DVD and then play for the number of break in hours recommended by your plasma display's manufacturer. The tool can be downloaded, free of charge, here (http://eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm). The break in tool operates on the theory that, like a fine wine, plasma phosphors must be properly and evenly "aged" for best performance.

Hitachi recommends a break in period of 100 hours. In the three years that I have owned the 55HDT52, I estimate that I have put about 250 hours on it. Therefore, I wasn't expecting much, if any, improvement. I was in for a very pleasant surprise. After 60 hours of running the break in DVD, I was seeing deeper blacks, crisper and brighter whites, richer and more vivid colors, and more detail and three dimensionality in the picture.

I had gotten into the habit of watching movies in "stretch mode", not because I didn't like seeing the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, but because the black bars were a distracting, slightly luminous dark gray rather than black. Furthermore, the "black" of the upper and lower bars never matched the blacks in the movie picture. This was particularly noticeable when watching dark scenes and particularly space scenes in sci-fi movies.

The pictures below are low resolution versions (800 x 600 pixels) of screen shots from the "Star Wars: Episode III" DVD and the "Casino Royale" Blu-ray. The darkest black in the pictures below is the upper and lower television bezel. The green dot in the lower right of figures 2 through 7 is the television's on/off LED. In figure 1, the upper television bezel and upper black bar are shown, but the bottom of the picture only shows the lower black bar.

The 55HDT52 was initially set up three years ago using the Avia setup DVD and the settings have not been changed since. My picture settings are:

Picture mode: Day,
Contrast: 56%,
Brightness: 46%,
Color: 35%,
Tint: One click right of middle of adjustment bar,
Sharpness: 40%,
Color Temp: Medium,
Black Enhancement: Low,
Contrast Mode: Dynamic,
Noise Reduction: Off,
Auto Movie Mode: On.

I ran the break in DVD from an old Sony DVP-S360 DVD player that I connected to an unused set of the TV's component video inputs. The DVD has 90 chapters and is authored to automatically start and to automatically loop back to the beginning at the 44:57 mark. The automatic start and automatic loop back may not engage in every player, so you should verify that these features work in your player. For the first 60 hours, I ran the DVD as follows:

Day 1: 10 hours,
Day 2: 6 hours,
Day 3: 18 hours, 1 hour break, then 4 hours,
Day 4: 12 hours, 2 hour break, 10 hours.

The screen shots below are the results after running the break in DVD for 60 hours. Due to your computer monitor's resolution and/or settings, it may be difficult to see the differences in the shades of black and dark grays in the pictures.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/003SW-logo-clo-noflsh-s2.jpg
Figure 1. The blackest black is the upper TV bezel. There is a subtle difference between the black upper and
lower picture bars and black star field. This is a huge improvement over the "luminous dark gray" bars I was
getting previously.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/009SWGenGrvShutt-s2.jpg
Figure 2. Not the deepest black, as compared to the upper and lower TV bezel, but the star field is a good
shade of black that provides a good contrast to the brightly lit planet and spaceship.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/017SWAnk-Pad007-s2.jpg
Figure 3. Due to the 55HDT52's black level performance, there was a lot of blotchy visual noise in the dark
shadows on Anakin Skywalker's right cheek when displayed by my previous DVD and Blu-ray players. The
BDP-09FD Blu-ray player, with its enhanced noise reduction features, rendered this scene with significantly
less noise. Further noise reduction and more shadow detail was seen after 60 hours running the Angelides
break in DVD.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/019SWVader-s2.jpg
Figure 4. It is difficult to tell the border between the upper black bar and the scene shadows in the upper left
of the scene.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/026CRBldg002-s2.jpg
Figure 5. This scene displayed grayish blacks, but they were all well integrated. The right side of the upper
black bar blended seamlessly with the dark night sky.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/027CROfcDoor-s2.jpg
Figure 6. This scene is shot in a grainy black and white style. The wood grain pattern on the door in this scene
was reproduced with some slight video noise when it was fed from my previous Blu-ray disc player. It is
rendered noise free and in good detail here. Part of this is due to the Pioneer BDP-09FD Blu-ray player and
part of this is due to properly aged plasma phosphors.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s23/darqueknight88/new-hit-blk-lvls/023cp10CRMGMLion-s2.jpg
Figure 7. Awwww...look at the nice kitty: The non-letterboxed MGM Studios "roaring lion" trademark tag prior
to the opening scene of the "Casino Royale" Blu-ray. You can see the contrast between the TV's black bezel
and the "black" background of the trademark tag. Prior to using the break in DVD, this background was a
lighter dark gray and there was some very slight "ghosting" around the edges of the silver logo. Now, there is
no ghosting and the artwork and lettering are rendered sharply. There is also more detail in the lion's fur
strands that does not show up in this low resolution photograph.

I ran the break in DVD for an additional 42 hours as follows:

Day 5: 14 hours,
Day 6: 18 hours, 6 hours break,
Day 7: 11 hours.
Total: 102 hours.

I did not see any difference or improvement with additional break in hours after the first 60.

Readjusting Picture Settings

Final picture adjustments are supposed to be done after break in. Rather than reuse the Avia setup DVD, I chose the "Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark Blu-ray Edition" setup disc. The picture settings did not change.

Conclusion

It seems that even an "old" TV can learn new tricks. This break in tool has enhanced my viewing enjoyment and has made the wait for a 1080p plasma a lot less impatient.

Associated Equipment

■Hitachi 55HDT52 Plasma HDTV (720p)
■Sony TA-E9000ES Digital Preamp/Processor Ver. 2.1 Firmware
■Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Blu-Ray Player
■Three Adcom GFA-5500 Power Amps (350 wpc into 4 ohms) for Front, Center, and Surround Speakers
■Dual Polk Audio LSi9 Center Channel Speakers
■Polk Audio LSi15 Surround Speakers
■Polk Audio SDA SRS Front Speakers (Hot Rodded)
■SVS PB12 Ultra/2 Subwoofer with 1000 Watt Bash Amplifier
■Monster M1000CV Component Video Cable
■Acoustic Research Coax Cables (DVD, CD)
■Monster Z2 Reference Speaker Cables
■Monster Z100i Interconnects
■Signal Cable MagicPower Cords
■Monster UL/CL3 In-Wall 12 Gauge Speaker Cable for Subwoofer
■Salamander Synergy Quad 30 Audio Credenza
■Acoustic Research HDMI cable
■Two PS Audio Power Plant Premier Power Regenerators
■PS Audio Power Port Premier 20 Amp AC Receptacles for Power Plant Premiers
■Two Dedicated 20 Amp AC Circuits For Amps, TV, and Source Components
■Separate Dedicated 20 Amp AC Circuit for Subwoofer
■PS Audio Soloist Premier SE Power Conditioner For Subwoofer
■Isoclean and HiFi Tuning Audio Grade Fuses For Amps, Blu-ray Player, and Subwoofer

silversport

06-13-09, 01:36 PM

just paid with paypal for the DVD-R version...apparently I couldn't get the file to work for me...thanks for making these available...
Bill

Quis

06-18-09, 02:49 AM

Can someone please PM me the website for the DVD-R version. Thanks

Clint S.

06-18-09, 03:28 AM

Can someone please PM me the website for the DVD-R version. Thanks
Look at the first post on this thread.

prometheusdt

06-19-09, 12:27 PM

thanks

Clint S.

06-19-09, 09:35 PM

thanks
Sure. ;)

debrey

07-13-09, 11:25 AM

What should I use instead of DVD decrypter for the iso files? I'm using a Mac, so I can't use DVD decrypter.

debrey

07-13-09, 05:10 PM

Answered my own question, after a couple of hours of frustration:

Just use the Video_TF files. You can simply burn them in your finder -- no need for a special program. Works like a charm.

The only thing is you'll need a DVD player that plays DVD-R discs. I didn't have one available, since I have it set up for my Oppo to arrive while I'm doing the burn in.

ToddGsell

07-14-09, 06:26 PM

I just wanted to say thank you for providing this thread and the necessary files on the other site; I just finished downloading and burning the dvd to break in my new plasma.

Thank you.

NewsJunkie

07-20-09, 11:39 PM

Evangelo2

07-21-09, 09:18 PM

Evangelo, I'm breakin in my new Kuro, and I have the disk running just fine, but I'm wondering if there's any difference between the different titles? I end up starting the disk from the beginning rather than finishing it when I watch other stuff when I'm home. All the titles are 45 minutes long, I'm just wondering if there's any difference between the different ones.

~~fred

Hi Fred,
No difference between titles. You can run it for any duration and stop when you like to let the tv rest or watch something you want to watch :)
-Evangelo2

Morts

07-29-09, 08:15 PM

Thanks for the CD its now playing on my G-10. I was wondering as I only have a 480i device to play the CD-R with is thats ok? I have my TV on Zoom as well? I just want to be safe for the first 100 hours and then I will start normal Gaming and Watching habits.

Is there also any certain settings to use for this or just lower the contrast and brightness under 50?

Thanks for the info.

Clint S.

07-30-09, 11:19 AM

Thanks for the CD its now playing on my G-10. I was wondering as I only have a 480i device to play the CD-R with is thats ok? I have my TV on Zoom as well? I just want to be safe for the first 100 hours and then I will start normal Gaming and Watching habits.
As long as the images are totally full screen without any black bars, it's ok.

Is there also any certain settings to use for this or just lower the contrast and brightness under 50?
Not sure where you saw that. The break-in settings are posted here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1053444), but I'm not familiar with a "G-10".

Morts

07-30-09, 02:33 PM

Thanks Clint adjusted to those settings now. It gets confusing on exactly what to use for break in settings. I will just run with these for now. Much appreciated as im about to hit the 25 hour mark.

Clint S.

07-31-09, 01:58 AM

Thanks Clint adjusted to those settings now. It gets confusing on exactly what to use for break in settings. I will just run with these for now. Much appreciated as im about to hit the 25 hour mark.
Sure. ;)

If you don't know if those break-in settings are applicable for the G-10, you may want to check into that. I know on the Kuros it doesn't make that much of a difference. The "torch mode" settings I believe just tend to speed things up a bit.

nightplayer

08-03-09, 11:54 PM

hi guys i just got my new plasma panasonic TC-P50X1X , Im doing the break of the first 250 hours with the DVD that all are using, but Im using this settings

MODE: CINEMA

Contrast: 20
Brightness:20
Color:20
Tint:0
Sharpness:0

Also I watch a couple Blu Ray movies, on full screen... cant wait for play my ps3 and 360 any advices??

sportyjay

08-10-09, 10:31 PM

Clint S.

08-11-09, 10:15 AM

I downloaded this disc and it runs for a little over 53 minutes before restarting and loops every 35 secs. Is that okay or should I try downloading it again to get 30 second intervals?

Thanks in advance.
Things must have changed since I checked it out. It was about 43 minutes long when I saw it. And by "loops every 35 seconds", do you mean each slide or image? If so, that too has changed because it used to have as long at 3 minutes on one color for a few different colors, other colors were about ~30 secs. 30 or 35 seconds isn't any difference in this context. 30 is fine, 35 is fine, 5 and 60 is ok as well.

sportyjay

08-12-09, 08:36 PM

Things must have changed since I checked it out. It was about 43 minutes long when I saw it. And by "loops every 35 seconds", do you mean each slide or image? If so, that too has changed because it used to have as long at 3 minutes on one color for a few different colors, other colors were about ~30 secs. 30 or 35 seconds isn't any difference in this context. 30 is fine, 35 is fine, 5 and 60 is ok as well.

Thanks. It seems to be going fine so far. I'm on hour 50 now.

lawrnk

09-08-09, 11:40 AM

This download link for the DVD does not work (or at least the file links)
Anyone know where else I can get it?

lawrnk

09-08-09, 11:41 AM

Disregard, link started working

dmbphan041

09-08-09, 10:56 PM

what do I do with/how do i burn a video t_s file?

can I just run the break in dvd with the dvd player hooked up or do i need to hook up a cable box as well?

if I encounter any stuck pixels should I stop the dvd or keep it playing in hopes the issue will resolve itself?

powertoold

09-09-09, 12:32 AM

:) DVD-R Version Now Available!
The images change every 30 seconds and the disc goes for approximately 16 hours (double check that number when you open the image in Nero). I created the disc like this so that the DVD players loop functionality does not have to be relied on.

Does this mean that I would have to stop and play the DVD every 10 hours or so, so it doesn't reach the 16 hours and stop? Or does the DVD automatically loop?

Thanks so much for your help!

skatalitegp

09-10-09, 01:03 AM

Will this work for 1080p televisions? Thanks!

Clint S.

09-10-09, 01:23 AM

Will this work for 1080p televisions? Thanks!
Sure.

alster

09-11-09, 11:24 PM

Clint S.

09-12-09, 02:50 AM

I don't see where anyone replied to this, so.......

what do I do with/how do i burn a video t_s file?
I haven't done it, but I believe that can be done with Roxio or Nero.

can I just run the break in dvd with the dvd player hooked up or do i need to hook up a cable box as well?
No, don't need a STB hooked up.

if I encounter any stuck pixels should I stop the dvd or keep it playing in hopes the issue will resolve itself?
Keep it playing.

Clint S.

09-12-09, 03:05 AM

So I've gone through about 100 hrs with the Burn-in DVD (many thanks to the author of this tool!) on my new LG50PQ30 PDP by running it mostly overnight while I slept-- in addition to all the hours of general TV watching during the evenings/weekends over the last several weeks (I must be at at least 150 hrs total time on the set by now).

My question is thus:

Can I/Should I now feel comfortable that I will not experience any burn-in/IR watching a movie like LOTR with its' 2.35:1 aspect ratio which will be displayed on this plasma with black bars on the top and bottom of the image, for the entire 3.5 hrs that it takes?
Interesting question, I would think that most of the Pioneer owners would say it's not a problem (and that's the only TV I'm familiar with). But your reminder below puts that into question:

There is this, in the manual:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO PREVENT “IMAGE BURN
/ BURN-IN” ON YOUR TV SCREEN
...
■ In order to prevent image burn, avoid displaying a fixed image on your TV screen for a prolonged period
(2 or more hours for LCD, 1 or more hours for Plasma).
Again, we're talking about two different TV's. (Wow, 3.5 hours, long movie). That manual quote may mean a cumulative amount problem, as in don't do that repeatedly.....or on the other hand it could be implying that having that happen only once could cause some IR or BI. If I were you I would ask this in an LG thread, or, just take a break or two to something full-screen when watching a black-barred movie for that long.

mrpuck27

09-12-09, 11:46 PM

Great DVD idea. Thanks for hosting it.

My only question is, I have it running now on my new plasma after burning the DVD .iso. But the colors definitely do not sit for anywhere near 30 secs. It will often pause for 10-15 secs on a light grey color. But then it will cycle through all the colors sitting on each color for no longer then 1 second.

It eventually gets back to the light grey and stops there again for 15-20 secs and repeats this process.

Just curious if at this point I should continue to use this disc like this or not.
Or if anyone has any ideas how to slow it down.

TV: Panasonic TC-P42X1
DVD Player: Samsung HD-931 set to 720p

Thanks!

PoorSignal

09-13-09, 03:59 AM

I just burned this DVD and I was wondering if I can be sure it will repeat itself.
should I just run it at night for 8 hours? Does it matter if you always start at chapter 1 each session? Thanks

alster

09-13-09, 04:12 PM

I just burned this DVD and I was wondering if I can be sure it will repeat itself.
should I just run it at night for 8 hours? Does it matter if you always start at chapter 1 each session? ThanksIt shouldn't matter, as the DVD is properly authored and a DVD player that "follows the rules" should repeat the disc.

Why not for just one day, when you're around the house, run it for several hours, and check on it every hour or so to see what's going on?

PoorSignal

09-19-09, 02:47 PM

Hi question again, I don't know what color content is on the DVD, seems to be many chapters of 40 mins or so. I need to shut off the set now, is it OK to start at beginning again when I come back? Just want to make sure I didn't miss the climax chapter at 15 hours or something :P

ricky_rocket

09-28-09, 03:07 PM

supershick

10-01-09, 09:54 PM

n00ber question:

1) running the break-in dvd right now on my PS3 and it's only 44 minutes long? That's right, right?

2) Also, I turned on title repeat on the ps3. Is that what other ps3 owners are doing?

Thanks guys!!

waltfales

10-02-09, 09:12 PM

So I had a friend download and burn me a a copy of Evangelo2's Break-in DVD in Post #1of the The Official Panasonic 12G Settings/Issues Thread within the Plasma section for my new Panasonic 50X1. (That is a slightly different DVD than the one posted in this thread)

However, when I played it in my DVD player I noted about 30 chapters that appear to have content that is 45 minutes long each. Each is identical material.

The problem is that when I play the 1st chapter it flashes each color for less than a second and the chapter finishes in about 5 seconds, and I can't get my crappy old DVD player to play all chapters in succession. Instead I just looped the first chapter and every 5 seconds it repeats which I think gets the job done.

My assumption is that my friend screwed up the burning of this DVD or something but, I just wanted to check with you experts out there to ensure that my loop method with the super short color flashes (as if the DVD player was stuck in super duper fast forward mode) was okay and that I am not sacrificing anything because my DVD doesn't allow the colors to stay on the screen for a long time and slowly fade (as I understand the actual DVD is supposed to do).

Also, can this same DVD break-in be used for all Plasmas no matter the brand? I just got a free LG 42PG10 and just want to be sure it is okay to run this DVD with it as well.

Thanks,
Walt

JMC08

10-06-09, 01:15 PM

I posed this in the Panasonic 12G issues thread, but didnt really get a response. Could someone please help a new HDTV owner out?

My Panasonic G15 is coming tomorrow, and I've spent the last 3-4 hours reading through different threads preparing for it. I am prepared to use the Evangelo DVD for break in, but I am confused....People in Evangelo's thread are saying to run the DVD with very low contrast/brightness, however in the Panny 12G thread the recommendation is to run 120 hours worth of Vivid picture. Is the D-Nice recommendation supposed to be applied AFTER running Evangelo's Disc at low contrast/brightness levels? Can his recommendation be run at any time during the first 1000 hours or so of use? Or will his tweaks only work best when breaking in with Vivid mode right out of the box?

I guess the question also applies to the various settings that users such as serialmike,orta, and Randy Walters recommend for ultimate use....Do I need to break in my Panny right out of the box with certain settings in order for the 'final' settings to look the best, or can I do a 'break in prep' for the 'final' settings at any time during the life of my plasma?

Evangelo2

10-06-09, 02:32 PM

MisterEd

10-06-09, 04:32 PM

I have a 3 1/2 yr old NEC 50" PDP that (seemingly) suddenly developed major image retention or possibly burn in. The strange part is that if I put a white screen on the TV I don't see image ghosting in the backgound but a large 4:3 square of what looks like light green color. Watching a TV show gives green ghosting on most faces & shadows.

Will this ISO, that uses color as well as white, help to (hopefully) remove or reduce this image retention or would the included color screens cause more problems?

Am I better off just keeping a solid white screen or a TV antenna "snow" screen up for extended periods to try and "wash" or at least reduce the IR away.

I can't imagine where this suddenly came from. I could understand if I were seeing image ghosts but this is like a solid light green color block almost exactly in 4:3 when I display a solid whate screen. We don't have a PC or a Game Console so I don't know where this came from and we rarely ever watch anything in 4:3.

Drew664

10-06-09, 07:19 PM

Can someone help me trouble shoot this break in DVD? :confused:

I went and downloaded the Video_TS version and used the newest Nero program to burn it to a DVD-r. I'm using my PS3 to play the DVD, and it gives me the error 'Video cannot be played (80029941)'.

I unzipped the file and burned everything in the Video_TS folder. I also created an Audio_TS folder with nothing in it, because that is the best direction I could find online.

I tested this DVD out on my brother's computer, and it played flawlessly and was recognized as a DVD.

Any suggestions for a PS3 set up?

EDIT:

Never mind. I've found an alternative solution. My PS3 has the ability to loop a slide show which is available for download at earprogramming. There aren't near the amount of colors to cycle through, and the colors aren't on for very long (5 seconds maybe?), but that has been the only differences. If I should be wary of using this method, LET ME KNOW!

Thanks.

MisterEd

10-06-09, 09:02 PM

Easiest way is to download imgburn (free program) then download the ISO version and burn the ISO direct to the DVD. Imgburn is a very easy program to use.

Get imgburn here: http://imgburn.com/index.php?act=download

Can someone help me trouble shoot this break in DVD? :confused:

I went and downloaded the Video_TS version and used the newest Nero program to burn it to a DVD-r. I'm using my PS3 to play the DVD, and it gives me the error 'Video cannot be played (80029941)'.

I unzipped the file and burned everything in the Video_TS folder. I also created an Audio_TS folder with nothing in it, because that is the best direction I could find online.

I tested this DVD out on my brother's computer, and it played flawlessly and was recognized as a DVD.

Any suggestions for a PS3 set up?

EDIT:

Never mind. I've found an alternative solution. My PS3 has the ability to loop a slide show which is available for download at earprogramming. There aren't near the amount of colors to cycle through, and the colors aren't on for very long (5 seconds maybe?), but that has been the only differences. If I should be wary of using this method, LET ME KNOW!

Thanks.

Evangelo2

10-07-09, 08:46 AM

Also, if you already have Nero, why not use the available nrg file? it is a disc image for Nero.
-Evangelo2

Marko1986

10-07-09, 02:50 PM

Hey guys,
Got a couple questions about the burn-in for my TV. First I have a Panasonic TC-P50U1, what are the recommended TV settings while using the Burn-in DVD or SVCD? Also, I am able to hook up my Macbook, via Mini-DVI to HDMI cable, to my TV. Since I can hook up my laptop to my TV would it be ok to just download the Video_TS file, Hook up my laptop to my TV (So my TV is my monitor) and Play the Video_TS file on the VLC player thats already on my computer? Last question, When I tried it this way (with my laptop connected) I had to change the format to ZOOM on my TV to fill the whole screen, is that ok? Or does it negatively affect the burn-in process? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

mojangles

10-13-09, 11:02 PM

Hello Everyone!

I am new to the forum and did a lot of researching on this site prior to making my final decision on a new TV. My old (if you can call a 2-year old TV "old") TV died on me...56" Samsung DLP. Optical unit died on me and the repair bill was a little over $1,000. So, decided to get a new TV and was so torn between plasmas and LCD's. Didn't really even consider LED's bc of the ridiculous prices, the fact that it is a new technology and also due to the fact that the Samsungs aren't even completely back lit...only have LED's along the edges. In the end, went with the plasma because the realistic and natural picture, older but fine-tuned technology and unbelievably inexpensive price. So...

Just wanted to let you all know that I've had my new 50" Samsung plasma for a week now and have been using the break-in DVD every night for 8-10 hours. In addition, I've being watching an hour to two hours of Blu-Ray or DVD movies stretched to fill the whole screen. I've reduced the contrast to 45 (less than half of the full 100) and all the other settings were at 50 out of the box...so I didn't have to mess with any of the other settings.

All in all, very pleased thus far and have been able to deal with the somewhat bloated picture with having to zoom the picture. Don't even notice half the time until text appears on the screen and runs a bit off the screen.

I'm planning on running the Break-In DVD for another couple of weeks until I reach a minimum of 200 hours of break-in. A big thanks to Evangelo2 for the great DVD, it's working flawlessly! The download (ISO format) and burning the program onto the DVD-R was tremendously easy and the break-in program has worked beautifully thus far.

Thanks Evangelo2!!! :)

anpe008

10-17-09, 03:42 PM

Paul H.

10-19-09, 11:40 AM

I must be doing something wrong. I DL'ed the file and burned it to CD and DVD. The images just flash really quick and then its over in 2+ minutes. What am I doing wrong? DVD player is Sony DVP-NS75H.

Paul H.

10-21-09, 08:58 AM

Anybody??????

Clint S.

10-21-09, 09:15 AM

Well that's definitely not normal, the DVD should run about 43 min., then loop. So all I can suggest is burn it again, or better yet just use the USB drive method since that would be quicker. (Sounds like the DVD might be playing it at hyper-speed :confused:).

Evangelo2

10-21-09, 09:50 AM

Evangelo2,

First of all, thanks the thread. I have a quick question. If I loop the pics (BreakIn_Images.zip), and they are changing in 3 sec, covering the full display on my Kuro 5090, can I use these pics for breaking-in the TV for 8-10 hours a day?

I ask this, because in the break-in DVD the colors changing very fast, while at my Picture Gallery in my Kuro the shortest time to change slides is 3 sec...

Thanks in advance.

Hi anpe008,
The colors should not change very quickly on the DVD. It is written so that they should each be up for about 30 seconds. Each title runs about 45 minutes and there are enough titles on the disc for it to run for 24 hours.
Nothing wrong with it being only 3 seconds but it should be longer. Set your Kuro to keep each image up for 30 seconds. There is also no problem with running it 8-10 hours a day. Still watch full screen content with no black bars or high contrast static overlays at calibrated levels when you want to watch something though :)
-Evangelo2

Evangelo2

10-21-09, 09:52 AM

I must be doing something wrong. I DL'ed the file and burned it to CD and DVD. The images just flash really quick and then its over in 2+ minutes. What am I doing wrong? DVD player is Sony DVP-NS75H.

Hi Paul, Clint S. is right with what he told you. What did you use to burn the disc? MAybe try something different. ImgBurn is free and works like a charm with the ISO file that is available for download...

-Evangelo2

Paul H.

10-22-09, 12:33 AM

THanks guys. I burned it with Nero. Ill DL Imgburn and use the ISO file. Hope that works!!

anpe008

10-24-09, 06:26 PM

Nothing wrong with it being only 3 seconds but it should be longer. Set your Kuro to keep each image up for 30 seconds. There is also no problem with running it 8-10 hours a day. Still watch full screen content with no black bars or high contrast static overlays at calibrated levels when you want to watch something though :)
-Evangelo2

Thanks the reply. So the delay should be 30 sec between each images...

D3lusions03

10-27-09, 07:40 AM

Anyone else having an issue where the dvd seems to be showing a ton more green than anything else? i get 5 slides of green for every slide of blue, and i've only seen red once. is it the case that reds and blues will be showing up later? or is it supposed to be the same mix of colors at all times?

Evangelo2

10-27-09, 10:26 AM

They should all be an even mix. Not sure why you're seeing it like that.
-Evangelo2

D3lusions03

10-27-09, 10:28 AM

uh... I better re-burn it then huh? i did a fast forwarding on the ps3, and roughly 60-80% of the time it was showing green. It did show up at 44 minutes long though. I was using the DVD iso with dvd decryptor, i'll use the nrg file this time and see how it goes..

hotchickinHD

11-04-09, 10:54 PM

1. has anyone used the burn in images with an sd memory card?

2. much programming i like is broadcast in standard, anything special to do when viewing on a new plasma?

3. also what about those black bars?

(i get dumb looks from sales people)

*after 1106 posts you all just stop?*

WhiteiceDMSTech

11-07-09, 08:52 PM

I just got my new Panasonic G10 today and have a question about burning in.

Is their any option of putting a file on a SD Card and going about this burn in process that way instead of burning to a disk?

WhiteiceDMSTech

11-08-09, 01:34 PM

Just wanted to say thank you for the DVD.

Forgot I had Nero on the computer and downloaded your Nero version and currently running it on my new Panasonic G10.

Thank you,
Whiteice

thedingo13

11-11-09, 02:13 PM

I'm having a problem with the .iso file. When I play it, it comes out in 2.35 format, and the white to gray gradiation shows pretty much no variance at all. There seem to be four whitish slides and then a fifth light gray slide. Additionally, the color slides all seem to have roughly 7-8 slides, but most times the white to gray is only five.

vas9008

11-27-09, 04:29 AM

So I've downloaded the DVD as video-TS files and burned to a DVD-R on my mac using Toast.

Just started running it on my PS3 to break in my brand new Panasonic V10 50 inch.

Seems to be working great. But quick question, I see the different colors being cycled every 30 sec, but none of the colors or cycles include black. Is black one of the slides or colors in the DVD, or is it just the pastels, greys, blues, reds, etc?

Forgive my "noobness" and thanks in advance for the help!

DreadRoberts

12-01-09, 01:32 PM

I have a DVD burner on my computer, but I use a program called Toast, and my computer is a Mac. Is the Plasma Break-in DVD capable of being made on a Mac? If I can use my Mac, will the aforementioned software work? Is there another type of software that I need? A brief description of what I need to do would be much appreciated.

Also, I use my PS3 as my DVD/Blu-Ray player. This DVD-R will work on a PS3, right?

n00sh

12-02-09, 09:54 AM

Tarwater

12-02-09, 05:23 PM

There seem to be four whitish slides and then a fifth light gray slide. Additionally, the color slides all seem to have roughly 7-8 slides

I'm seeing something similar. Sets of 7 blue, then 8 red, then 7 green. I downloaded both the ISO and the VIDEO_TS, with the same result. And I see the same thing whether I play it on my old Toshiba DVD player, or my new laptop BD.

I guess I won't be using this on my new Kuro. :eek:

So MD TopGun

12-04-09, 12:49 PM

I am a rookie here-you guys talk way over my head- But I just got a 600m Pioneer that Turbe says i need to breakin before patch can be put on. Didn't understand how to download so I ordered the DVD-R . Now-- How do I use it-just turn on TV and put disc in DVD player and that's it(I Hope)

footballforever

12-09-09, 11:06 PM

my question is, how long do I run these images?

I'm doing this right now on my new LG Plasma through USB and I wanna know do i run it everyday for a few hours, or an hour?

Please let me know.

Clint S.

12-10-09, 07:48 AM

my question is, how long do I run these images?

I'm doing this right now on my new LG Plasma through USB and I wanna know do i run it everyday for a few hours, or an hour?

Please let me know.
It's generally considered they should be run 150-200 hrs for "completion" of a break-in process.

ujsplace

12-10-09, 08:36 AM

Just thought I'd share some info that may be useful - for those of you who own an xbox 360, there is a cheap independent game called Plasma Break-in that I have been using, which has worked out great for me. Go figure, I had a problem with the repeat feature on my dvd player and came down one morning to find (thankfully) a screen saver had been running. Also, check the manufacturer's website concerning any break-in period. I have a Samsung and in the FAQ section they state that a break-in period is not necessary (although I still ran the aforementioned program for about 4 hours per night)...good luck!

dade7

12-10-09, 05:13 PM

Can break-in be done in a Plasma a year and a half old/used? Is it useless right now?

Thanks!!

Clint S.

12-11-09, 09:24 AM

Can break-in be done in a Plasma a year and a half old/used? Is it useless right now?

Thanks!!
It depends on how many hours are on it. If it's been used the usual amount and there are hundreds of hours on it, yes, the process is essentially useless. But if it only has a few hours on it, the break-in can still be done.

dade7

12-11-09, 10:15 AM

It depends on how many hours are on it. If it's been used the usual amount and there are hundreds of hours on it, yes, the process is essentially useless. But if it only has a few hours on it, the break-in can still be done.

Thanks for the quick response. I guess i found this procedure a little bit too late, my plasma tv has been used as normal, 4-5 hours daily. Well, maybe next time.

Clint S.

12-11-09, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the quick response. I guess i found this procedure a little bit too late, my plasma tv has been used as normal, 4-5 hours daily. Well, maybe next time.
If the TV is fine, nothing lost. ;)

dade7

12-11-09, 12:54 PM

Yeah the TV is just fine. :D

dade7

12-11-09, 12:55 PM

Clint S.

12-11-09, 01:39 PM

Another two questions popped in my mind... i downloaded the Evangelo's DVD to break-in, i watched the DVD in my PC and i see images of one changing but uniform color, Is this correct, or should i see some kind of patterns?
No they're just solid images.

My other question is: Should i use the HDMI input, or can i use any other input?
If you're talking about for the break-in procedure, it doesn't matter as long as it's full screen.

All this questions cause i got a 500M and want to get the best results. Thanks a lot!
I take it the 500M is not the set you had for years?

dade7

12-11-09, 02:21 PM

No they're just solid images.

If you're talking about for the break-in procedure, it doesn't matter as long as it's full screen.

I take it the 500M is not the set you had for years?

You're right, the 500M just came to my loving arms yesterday after a long bus trip from USA :D. A HITACHI is the one i own since more than a year and will sell for my wallet to recover a bit :O.

Thanks for the quick answers again, i hope i can start the break-in period this weekend.

R3deye

12-11-09, 04:55 PM

For me the DVD wasn't working as it supposed to, tried Video_TS, NRG image, all the same, on PC (PowerDVD9, KMPlayer) or when burned and played on a Pioneer DVR. The colours were visible in only two gradients. So I took the JPGs, made a movie presentation in Picasa, and then transcoded that WMV to DVD files. Done and done.:)

dade7

12-13-09, 10:50 AM

In the break-in DVD, is every title exactly the same? I mean, do they have the same images, the same colors in the same secuence, so I can safely repeat any title for the 150 hours?

Is the first image supposed to be white?

Thanks!

So MD TopGun

12-17-09, 01:51 AM

What is the real purpose for break-in-- nothing to do with preventive burn in -correct

Clint S.

12-17-09, 02:12 AM

What is the real purpose for break-in-- nothing to do with preventive burn in -correct
While I don't recall ever seeing any break-in procedure mention it will help, and I even see comments in the instructions claiming something like "....is not meant to prevent burn-in" (or something like that, which is probably just to indemnify them from "complaints" like "I did your break-in procedure and still got BI", etc.), but the science is there that the procedure can prevent some burn-in. Essentially what you're doing is a "burn-in" of the entire screen, and it's done evenly unlike station/network logos, black side bars, etc. Since this overall phosphor burn-in is done during the sensitive early "virginal" phosphor hours; when complete, the now "less sensitive" phosphors should be less prone to BI since they've already been exposed to (screen-wide) even BI. It makes sense.

Of course there's going to be some that disagree, but that's neither here nor there, because: most do the process anyway, and the other reason is that it stresses components so you can kind of get an idea as to the quality of the set--if it's likely to fail in its life, it would probably do so during break-in. If it passes the break-in procedure fine, then you'll probably get the 50-60,000 hour (claimed) life span.

The only way to know for sure, is to take several identical TV's and divide them into two groups. Identical settings for both groups. Do a break-in procedure on one group, then none on the other group. Then feed both groups many constant days of things like 4:3 content with black bars, video games with lots of high contrast static images, etc., etc., then examine both groups for BI. I would bet the group that had the break-in procedure would have less BI.

robin yanani

12-17-09, 06:10 AM

It seems like only you're helping out in there ^^ lol

Well I hope you have time to help me out too :D

I'm waiting for my Panasonic TC-P50S1 Plasma, I'm currently downloading the break-in images for a memory card.

Do I start the break-in process right away after installing my new flatscreen?

I understand the break in process takes up to 100-150hrs, can I turn the tv off at any time during this process?
Can I stop and watch cable/dvd/play video games during this process?

Other than lowering the lowering contrast/brightness OR enabling torch mode, what other changes should I make to my tv's settings?

That's just some of many questions that I have :D
This is my first tv ever, that I'm buying, I hope I can do this right.

I also understand that there's a lot of people with a lot of questions here but I speak for many in saying that we appreciate the help you're providing, Clint.

Clint S.

12-17-09, 09:49 AM

It seems like only you're helping out in there ^^ lol
Thanks, but there's been many that have helped, I think they must have either unsubscribed from the thread or I may just beat them to it. ;)

Do I start the break-in process right away after installing my new flatscreen?

I understand the break in process takes up to 100-150hrs, can I turn the tv off at any time during this process?
Can I stop and watch cable/dvd/play video games during this process?
Yes to all. But you should only need to change the settings if you have them set in a "torch" type of settings when you do something else. And don't do any side bars or gaming with static images for very long.

Other than lowering the lowering contrast/brightness OR enabling torch mode, what other changes should I make to my tv's settings?
I'm far more familiar with the Kuro (and a little with the G10/G15). So with that known....The only other settings would be settings you change specifically for the break-in images, you may want to set them back to normal TV viewing depending on what they are.

I also understand that there's a lot of people with a lot of questions here but I speak for many in saying that we appreciate the help you're providing, Clint.
You're welcome, and thanks for the words. ;)

robin yanani

12-17-09, 09:27 PM

Sounds simple enough ^^
What about calibrating? Is calibrating done before or after the break in process?

Np :D

Clint S.

12-18-09, 12:08 AM

Sounds simple enough ^^
What about calibrating? Is calibrating done before or after the break in process?

Np :D
After. That's another reason for break-in: It rapidly puts "age and wear" on the pixels/phosphors. Over time, the display characteristics of a flat panel TV will change. Due to those changes, any pre-break-in calibrations will no longer be "calibrated".

robin yanani

12-18-09, 05:10 AM

After. That's another reason for break-in: It rapidly puts "age and wear" on the pixels/phosphors. Over time, the display characteristics of a flat panel TV will change. Due to those changes, any pre-break-in calibrations will no longer be "calibrated".

Ohhh, I see..

I forgot to ask, if I decide to watch tv/play a game while in the break in process...do I still count those minutes/hours of watching tv/playing games as break in time or do I just stop the clock and start where I left off after I'm doing watching/playing?

Clint S.

12-18-09, 05:15 AM

Ohhh, I see..

I forgot to ask, if I decide to watch tv/play a game while in the break in process...do I still count those minutes/hours of watching tv/playing games as break in time or do I just stop the clock and start where I left off after I'm doing watching/playing?
While it still counts as "time" for the panel, which is part of the break-in, it doesn't really count as 100% (like 1hr = 1hr) as the break-in images do unless it's full screen and at the same settings. If it's full screen, but with diminished settings, I can only guess it may be something like a .4 -.6 factor, depending on the settings.

soupnuts

12-19-09, 11:45 AM

What do I have to do to get this to work through a thumbdrive plugged into my PS3, tried all of the different file types and none work.
Only one that does anything is the video_TS one, it shows about 32 files each one 44 minutes long but when I set one to play it runs for about 4 seconds flashing all the colors once then stops.

UPDATE-
Not sure what to do to make this work. I've burned it to a dvd, plays fine on the computer but PS3 doesn't recognize the disc, (I've played dvd-r's on it before with no problems). Burned an svcd which isn't recognized by the computer or the PS3, and tried running it off of a usb drive in which it runs through the whole thing in about 5 seconds. I would just loop it and let it play but every time it restarts it displays the repeat and play icons and I dont want it to cause ir.

Any suggestions, only thing I can think to do is hook the laptop up to it and play it from there but I really dont want to do that.

UPDATE(2)-

Ok, found a solution. Had to go about 10 pages back and read about using the jpegs and setting up a slideshow, seems to work pretty good, goes through all the colors and changes every 5 seconds or so, so I'll stick with that. Would still like to know why none of the other ways would work though.

Clint S.

12-20-09, 04:44 AM

Ok, found a solution. Had to go about 10 pages back and read about using the jpegs and setting up a slideshow, seems to work pretty good, goes through all the colors and changes every 5 seconds or so, so I'll stick with that. Would still like to know why none of the other ways would work though.
I don't know if that's addressed to me or just general (since I've been the only one replying lately)......I can't answer that since the only method I've used is the USB drive method, because obviously it's the easiest method. ;)

robin yanani

12-22-09, 03:49 PM

While it still counts as "time" for the panel, which is part of the break-in, it doesn't really count as 100% (like 1hr = 1hr) as the break-in images do unless it's full screen and at the same settings. If it's full screen, but with diminished settings, I can only guess it may be something like a .4 -.6 factor, depending on the settings.

Got it, and I pulled the trigger lastnight at BB, I couldn't take it home with me so I'm picking it up on Thursday :eek::D

Btw, since I'll be doing the breaking in once I get it. What exactly do they mean by 'low contrast/brightness'. How 'low' should I set the contrast/brightness?

It's kinda wierd, it's like all the answers to the questions I had answered flew right out of my head, I think I'm just too excited.

Clint S.

12-24-09, 12:06 AM

Btw, since I'll be doing the breaking in once I get it. What exactly do they mean by 'low contrast/brightness'. How 'low' should I set the contrast/brightness?
Dunno, I guess something "less than halfway". ?

akhlaq768

12-29-09, 04:49 PM

I'm running the plasma break in dvd via the ps3 on my Samsung PS50B530S 50" 1080p Plasma TV...

just wondering how long do i need to run it for and is there any pictures/videos of examples of this problem

Clint S.

12-30-09, 03:49 AM

I'm running the plasma break in dvd via the ps3 on my Samsung PS50B530S 50" 1080p Plasma TV...

just wondering how long do i need to run it for
~150-200 hrs accumulated time.

and is there any pictures/videos of examples of this problem
What problem?

Quadricept

12-31-09, 03:20 PM

Clint S.

01-01-10, 01:30 AM

I've tried to run the slides from via SD card D-Nice on my Panny TC-P50X1. It displays the first, and then gives an error. If I look at all the slides in the thumbnail, it appears the TV, which is 720p native, is trying to display the ramaining lines of the 1080p slides AS the next slide. A "border" of the same color appears as the image in thumbs on the TV, but gives an error in the context of the slideshow.

Are there 720p slides available?
Qt
Although I've never heard of that before, just resize the images to 1280x720. But you really shouldn't have to. :confused:

You can do a batch resize with IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/), be sure the output is the highest quality jpg at "100" on the slider. But I'd wait for some input on why this is happening.

indomanna

01-02-10, 08:56 PM

Hi all -- total NEWBIE here. I just bought Panasonic TCP42S1 and want to do the Break In procedure. These are the steps that I will do:

1. Turn down LOW the contrast and brightness setting.
2. Play Break In DVD and let it run for 16 hours.
3. Once Break In is complete, change back the contrast and brightness setting.

Are these steps correct?

Thanks,
Indo

Clint S.

01-03-10, 02:37 AM

soccerman7

01-05-10, 07:26 PM

Clint S.

01-06-10, 01:19 AM

Sorry for the stupid question but during the break in period using the break in disk can I still watch regular TV druing the day and use the break in disc at night? Is this advisable or is better to not watch any TV until I have logged 150 to 200 hours using the breakin disc.

Thanks in advance.
This should answer that.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17742855#post17742855
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17736982#post17736982

DaBreeze

01-14-10, 05:06 PM

I just received the break in DVD from Evangelos. Naturally, I have some questions to make certain I do this correctly. The display I'll be breaking in is the Sammy 58B650. I have 3 DVD Players to choode from. The Oppo 970HD. The Panny BD 35 Bluray Player and a Toshiba HD a35 hd/dvd player.

Since the DVD-R Disc was authored in 720P would it be best to use 720P resolution ? Which DVD player would be preferred ? The Oppo has a repeat button that allows for the whole disc to be played in a loop. I'm fairly sure that the other players do as well. Do I format the screen to 16;9 and Zoom the image to fill the whole screen ? What screen size should the Sammy display be set at ? Also, which mode should the Sammy be set at ? Movie, Standard, Eco ? I have the settings on the Sammy set at 4 cell light, contrast at 49, brightness at 36 and sharpness at 0. I think these arer good settings for break in, right ? Any advanced settings and picture control settings that I should use ? Or, just keep to default ?

If I missed anything please help as I want to do this right and get the MAX benefit out of my Sweet Sammy 58B650.

Thanks....Larry :)

DaBreeze

01-14-10, 07:01 PM

I've done a good browse thru the thread and pretty much found the answers. I tend to be lazy and look for fast answers from thegood folks on this forum. Nevertheless, I'm going to use the Oppo 970HD to run the DVD and set the Sammy to movie mode with a slight tweak on Zappy's break in settings. Just got to check how many hours are on the TV already.

Thanks Evangelos for the time and effort it took to make available this valuable tool.

DaBreeze

01-14-10, 11:38 PM

Wow, my Tv already has 135 hours on it. Are there any benefits to running the breakin dvd still ? The Samsung website recommends 240 hrs.

Any Thoughts ??

lance1086

01-15-10, 04:23 PM

I downloaded the DVD, but's only 45 minutes long, not 16 hours... Actually, i guess i'll just wait 45 minutes to see if it loops.

Evangelo2

01-15-10, 04:55 PM

At the 45 minute mark a new title starts. It should go back to 0 and start playing again automatically...

Digital Fool

01-16-10, 11:14 AM

The first wave of white to gray doesn't seem to be much difference as compared to when I ran it on my computer. I'm guessing it's just the vivid settings of the break in of my TV? Is that going to cause issues?

Character_Zero

01-26-10, 07:41 PM

Does the time between colors matter? My TV has 10 seconds as the slowest time between transitions.

akmarshal

02-01-10, 12:10 PM

Apologies if this has already been asked but if I download the images to an SD card and run on a loop with 30sec delay, is that the same as the dvd you can order? Thanks.

FunniestDread

02-04-10, 09:27 PM

I just got the Panasonic TCP42X1. I burnt the breakin disc, so how many hours should i run it? Can i still watch bluray movies and play games during the breakin procedure? What settings should i have the tv on? I havnt watched a bluray movie on this tv yet but i have on my vizio 42" 1080p VO420E, will the quality be better on the plasma?

Hypeber

02-05-10, 05:07 PM

So am i suppose to play the disc for 100-200 hour continuously without turning the tv off?

Clint S.

02-06-10, 05:13 AM

So am i suppose to play the disc for 100-200 hour continuously without turning the tv off?
It doesn't matter.

spongebob

02-06-10, 09:52 AM

How many different color slides are there supposed to be on a 45 min loop?

bob

Clint S.

02-06-10, 10:36 AM

How many different color slides are there supposed to be on a 45 min loop?

bob
For the USB drive images or DVD? I don't know about the DVD version but the USB drive version is 20 images.

spongebob

02-06-10, 11:44 AM

For the USB drive images or DVD? I don't know about the DVD version but the USB drive version is 20 images.

Sorry,

DVD

bob

Clint S.

02-06-10, 12:14 PM

That I don't know. I don't remember how, but I was able to view the DVD version in Windows Media Player, it lasts about ~43 minutes before looping, and it had a lot more colors and shades than the images (and no one ever had an explanation as to why).

Franco4

02-10-10, 03:06 AM

Hi everyone, I'm new to all of this, and I'm just getting into A/V stuff.

I'm about to take delivery of a new 58" Panasonic S1 tomorrow and I've done research on pretty much everything, but I have a question:

I downloaded the 20 images and uploaded them onto my PS3...I can't figure out how to have the image change every 30 seconds. The longest time a single image stays on the screen in slideshow mode is about 5 seconds (maybe a little longer).

Will this 5-second cycle between colors enough to properly break-in the set as the 30 second cycle was suppose to? Or should I really figure out a way to leave each color on there for 30 seconds?

The TV is arriving tomorrow, and I dont want to have to wait to order the Break-in DVD and have it shipped here (my DVD-WR drive is busted right now)

perion

02-14-10, 04:28 PM

I apologize if this has been asked (and answered) before ...

I downloaded "_Breakin_DVD_R_ISO.zip" and am now running it. It seems to run through only a handful of colors (mainly shades of red, with one light blue) with no greens, yellows, grays, etc. Is this what should be happening, or did I mess up somehow?

Thanks,

Paul

j-justice

02-15-10, 07:26 PM

I've got about 125 hours of breakin using the dvd and am still having IR with my samsung pn50b550. i was wondering if it's recommended to breakin with the cell light set to 10. i'm thinking this would help warm up the phosphors and avoid IR.

AndyJCL

02-19-10, 12:30 AM

pls excuse my newbness

But I have tried downloading both evangelo's and dvdshrinks files and burning them onto a dvd and playing it on my PS3 but none seems to work.

Im burning the dvd using roxio on my macbookpro and im trying to play it on a ps3.

Can anyone tell me what Im doing wrong?

Thank you!

perion

02-19-10, 11:27 AM

I downloaded "_Breakin_DVD_R_ISO.zip" and am now running it. It seems to run through only a handful of colors (mainly shades of red, with one light blue) with no greens, yellows, grays, etc. Is this what should be happening, or did I mess up somehow?

The answer would be: Yes, I screwed up the connections on the DVD player.

But I have run into another little anomaly. When watching the elapsed time on the DVD player, when there is a transition from one color image to the next, the time jumps ~12 seconds; is that normal?

perion

02-21-10, 02:27 PM

When watching the elapsed time on the DVD player, when there is a transition from one color image to the next, the time jumps ~12 seconds; is that normal?

Probably not :) I was able to get my hands on a different DVD player and with that player it appears to work ... at least it was for the short period of time that I monitored it.

Paul

mporreca01

02-25-10, 08:35 AM

Do i have to run the disc on a blue ray player? Can I just use a standard dvd player?

Thanks

nicholc2

02-25-10, 10:26 AM

TXGrunt

03-15-10, 07:32 PM

Clint S.

03-16-10, 01:50 AM

I have a DVD player that can play the DVD in 1080i. Do I still want to run it in 720p for break-in with this DVD? Also is the gray supposed to go to black? I tested the DVD and I didn't see any black screens. Thanks in advance!
Why do you want to run it at 720p? It shouldn't matter as long as the images are full-screen.

There are black images/slides as well as gray on the flash drive version, but I can't say if the DVD is that way. The DVD version does have many more different colors than the 20 images for the flash version.

purplerain

03-20-10, 01:05 PM

So am i suppose to play the disc for 100-200 hour continuously without turning the tv off?

How do I make the DVD player run the Evang2 DVD without stopping for 150 hours? It mentions the DVD will go for 24 straight hours. Do I just have to press play again after the 24 hours is up or when the DVD stops??

Clint S.

03-21-10, 04:07 AM

How do I make the DVD player run the Evang2 DVD without stopping for 150 hours? It mentions the DVD will go for 24 straight hours. Do I just have to press play again after the 24 hours is up or when the DVD stops??
Guys you don't have to run any break-in procedure, (DVD or flash drive) for ~150 hrs straight.

Unless it's been updated and changed to be 24 hrs long in one run, I don't know where it says the DVD method will run for 24 hrs, it lasts about 42 minutes which would of course have to be looped/repeated.

Evangelo2

03-22-10, 08:55 AM

Guys you don't have to run any break-in procedure, (DVD or flash drive) for ~150 hrs straight.

Unless it's been updated and changed to be 24 hrs long in one run, I don't know where it says the DVD method will run for 24 hrs, it lasts about 42 minutes which would of course have to be looped/repeated.

CLint is right. It does not have to be 150 hours straight. The DVD does run for 24 hours straight though. It is comprised of multiple 45 minute titles. DVD players should automatically starting playing the next title when one is finished so it should not need any special DVD player looping functionality to play for 24 hours. Just make sure you play it from the 44 minute mark and see that at 45 minutes it goes back to 0:00 and starts again. If that works then you should be all set for it to repeat for 24 hours (from the beginning).
-Evangelo2

Clint S.

03-22-10, 09:13 AM

CLint is right. It does not have to be 150 hours straight. The DVD does run for 24 hours straight though. It is comprised of multiple 45 minute titles. DVD players should automatically starting playing the next title when one is finished so it should not need any special DVD player looping functionality to play for 24 hours. Just make sure you play it from the 44 minute mark and see that at 45 minutes it goes back to 0:00 and starts again. If that works then you should be all set for it to repeat for 24 hours (from the beginning).
-Evangelo2
I'm confused on the DVD length. When I play the DVD version in WMP, it only lasts about ~43 minutes or so......which you mention there. But there you say 24 hrs, and that it has to be on repeat (same as loop?). So I'm confused on that. I don't understand the correlation between the length (which appears to be 43-44 minutes), and the 24 hr time period. Just curious.

Evangelo2

03-23-10, 08:40 AM

I'm confused on the DVD length. When I play the DVD version in WMP, it only lasts about ~43 minutes or so......which you mention there. But there you say 24 hrs, and that it has to be on repeat (same as loop?). So I'm confused on that. I don't understand the correlation between the length (which appears to be 43-44 minutes), and the 24 hr time period. Just curious.

It does NOT need to be on repeat or loop. The DVD has multipple titles. At the 45 minute mark it should start over at 0:00. This should continue for 24 hours. Let it play in WMP and see what happens at the 45 minute mark. It should go to the next Title (Title 2 if you are starting from the beginning) and then continue to play from 0:00 for another 45 minutes...
-Evangelo2

Clint S.

03-23-10, 09:07 AM

It does NOT need to be on repeat or loop. The DVD has multipple titles. At the 45 minute mark it should start over at 0:00. This should continue for 24 hours. Let it play in WMP and see what happens at the 45 minute mark. It should go to the next Title (Title 2 if you are starting from the beginning) and then continue to play from 0:00 for another 45 minutes...
-Evangelo2
I see. I never used the DVD, I used the flash drive method, and I only looked at the DVD method in WMP just out of curiosity and since everyone was saying it had more colors. At the end of the video (43-45 minutes), it just starts over again at the beginning (because I have WMP set to loop, of course if one does not, it won't start over again).

purplerain

03-23-10, 01:08 PM

Megalith

04-05-10, 11:38 AM

Clint S.

04-06-10, 02:54 AM

Would we still say that break-in is advisable for newer plasmas, since it would in fact make IR less likely?
Yes, of course some will disagree, but the science is there to support it (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17736017#post17736017). Plus I recently watched a video at some HDTV review site, and they even mentioned that break-in can reduce IR/BI.

Megalith

04-08-10, 06:24 PM

My KURO is currently in the break-in process.

I just realized that these slides are 720p, though. I'm going to assume that setting my Oppo BDP-83 to 1080p output is just fine.

To be honest, I'm not sure how long I can tolerate this process. I am paranoid about the thing being a fire hazard for being on for so long, especially with the hot weather.

Clint S.

04-09-10, 12:32 AM

My KURO is currently in the break-in process.

I just realized that these slides are 720p, though. I'm going to assume that setting my Oppo BDP-83 to 1080p output is just fine.
:confused: The images are 1920x1080.

To be honest, I'm not sure how long I can tolerate this process. I am paranoid about the thing being a fire hazard for being on for so long, especially with the hot weather.
If it's getting that hot, something is wrong. It's normal for it to consume more watts (and therefore put out more heat) during the break-in, but no part of it should be over ~110° or so. (That's just using my 5020 as an example; I used a non-contact IR thermometer and the hottest place on mine I could find was 109° on a white screen).

The rear fans will also come on when things get "too hot" but I don't know what point that is.

You don't have to run the break-in all at once.

JeffDM

04-17-10, 01:17 PM

All, there is absolutely NO reason to do this any longer. Plasmas today do not need any other breakin than watching regular material. If you're doing this still, then all you're doing is wasting 100 hrs of TV watching on your new TV. As long as you have the full screen taken up when you watch material, the screen will evenly break in itself. No slides are needed whatsoever.

Notice this thread was created in 2005! Plasmas have come a long way since then. :-)

I'm curious how five years of progress magically changes the chemical and physical properties of phosphorus.

Honos

04-28-10, 05:12 AM

I just wanted to give a quick shout-out of thanks! I just purchased a 63" Samsung Plasma this weekend, and have started the break-in process. I intend to mix in normal TV/Movie watching while I complete my 100 hours using the break-in DVD. I am convinced that break-in is still needed as I could see a very slight black bars above/below after watching the Dark Knight on blu-ray.

I do have a questions, but I'll post them later. However, I just wanted to say thank you for all the information in this thread. I believe its as relevent today as it was in 2005.

Clint S.

04-28-10, 08:10 AM

I just purchased a 63" Samsung Plasma this weekend, and have started the break-in process. I intend to mix in normal TV/Movie watching while I complete my 100 hours using the break-in DVD. I am convinced that break-in is still needed as I could see a very slight black bars above/below after watching the Dark Knight on blu-ray.
That's a bit troubling. Be sure you don't use high contrast and high brightness settings for the first couple of hundred hours, and after you watch something with bars like that be sure you put some full screen content on it for a few hours after (or just run the break-in images for several more hours).

Honos

04-28-10, 05:40 PM

That's a bit troubling. Be sure you don't use high contrast and high brightness settings for the first couple of hundred hours, and after you watch something with bars like that be sure you put some full screen content on it for a few hours after (or just run the break-in images for several more hours).

I ran the break-in DVD for a few hours and its gone. However, I do have 1 question about the break-in DVD... I noticed that the images start with the white slides, then blue, then back to white, then green, then back to white, then red, then back to white before doing blue again. Is all the white slides good for the pixels since there aren't as many blue/green/red slides?

thank you!

Clint S.

04-29-10, 01:39 AM

I ran the break-in DVD for a few hours and its gone. However, I do have 1 question about the break-in DVD... I noticed that the images start with the white slides, then blue, then back to white, then green, then back to white, then red, then back to white before doing blue again. Is all the white slides good for the pixels since there aren't as many blue/green/red slides?

thank you!
Sorry I can't answer that since I don't use the DVD method.

MrOliver

05-25-10, 10:12 PM

Just past 60 hours of breakin on my new PN50C550. Using the files via an SD card in my USB port. Working like a charm.

With almost all decent HDTVs having either a USB port or a memory card slot, why would anyone choose to go the DVD route?

Steve5355

05-26-10, 10:38 AM

Would we still say that break-in is advisable for newer plasmas, since it would in fact make IR less likely?

Will be getting a 101FD KURO delivered on Wednesday and am still on the fence about the whole break-in thing.

And assuming I'll do it, I'll be using my Oppo BDP. I should be able to get the DVD to repeat forever just by selecting "repeat all," correct?

What other safety tips does anyone have specific to the KURO? I think I'll put it on auto shutdown (which it supposedly does if there is no source), for starters. And I'll be using the torch settings, as presented by D-Nice over in that other thread.

I'm in the same boat! I'm getting my 101FD next Saturday, so far it seems like it would be a good idea to do some burn in for at least 100 hours in between watching some tv. Some say its not necessary anymore. I guess it can't hurt. I would be upset if i saw black burn in marks from watching a movie. this is my first plasma, so i'm still researching everything. I had to break in my Denon AH-D2000 headphones and i can tell you that it leveled out the sound for sure, so there must be some benefit to such things.

i hope you are enjoying your 101FD.

Clint S.

05-26-10, 11:47 AM

^^ Re the last 2 posts: Here's something I save for questions such as that: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16059416#post16059416

jig

06-03-10, 12:21 AM

just noting that the burn in dvd site is down - is there a way to get this otherwise? i've sent a pm to evangelos2, but i'd like to get started tonight. even the burn in images would work.

thanks

Clint S.

06-03-10, 07:25 AM

just noting that the burn in dvd site is down - is there a way to get this otherwise? i've sent a pm to evangelos2, but i'd like to get started tonight. even the burn in images would work.

thanks
At 6AM CST it's up for me. Maybe it was just temporary. If you still can't get to it today I can send you the images.

jig

06-03-10, 10:39 AM

It is up for me too - I got it, but thanks a lot for offering to help.

Clint S.

06-03-10, 11:01 AM

It is up for me too - I got it, but thanks a lot for offering to help.
Sure. ;)

inflatablemouse

06-11-10, 05:57 PM

oke, I've read the first couple of pages and last couple of pages of this thread. I understand its not necessary to run it for 200 hours straight, but I'm confused for how long it should run?

I'm getting a LG 50PK250 tomorrow. Should I avoid bars and static logo's?

Thanks!

JRod0802

06-20-10, 03:09 AM

So I watched the DVD for the entire 45 minutes through until it looped, and I have a question about the timing of the colors. I looked through most of the pages here and didn't find anything regarding this question, so I hope it hasn't already been asked.

Anyway, here's the timing I saw:

Chapter 01 (00:00 - 00:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 02 (00:30 - 01:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 03 (01:00 - 01:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 04 (01:30 - 02:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 05 (02:00 - 02:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 06 (02:30 - 03:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 07 (03:00 - 03:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 08 (03:30 - 04:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 09 (04:00 - 04:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 10 (04:30 - 05:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 11 (05:00 - 05:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 12 (05:30 - 06:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 13 (06:00 - 06:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 14 (06:30 - 07:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 15 (07:00 - 07:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 16 (07:30 - 08:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 17 (08:00 - 08:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 18 (08:30 - 09:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 19 (09:00 - 09:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 20 (09:30 - 10:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 21 (10:00 - 10:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 22 (10:30 - 11:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 23 (11:00 - 11:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 24 (11:30 - 12:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 25 (12:00 - 12:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 26 (12:30 - 13:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 27 (13:00 - 13:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 28 (13:30 - 14:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 29 (14:00 - 14:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 30 (14:30 - 15:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 31 (15:00 - 15:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 32 (15:30 - 16:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 33 (16:00 - 16:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 34 (16:30 - 17:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 35 (17:00 - 17:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 36 (17:30 - 18:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 37 (18:00 - 18:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 38 (18:30 - 19:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 39 (19:00 - 19:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 40 (19:30 - 20:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 41 (20:00 - 20:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 42 (20:30 - 21:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 43 (21:00 - 21:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 44 (21:30 - 22:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 45 (22:00 - 22:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 46 (22:30 - 23:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 47 (23:00 - 23:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 48 (23:30 - 24:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 49 (24:00 - 24:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 50 (24:30 - 25:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 51 (25:00 - 25:20): Shade of Gray
Chapter 52 (25:20 - 26:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 53 (26:00 - 26:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 54 (26:30 - 27:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 55 (27:00 - 27:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 56 (27:30 - 28:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 57 (28:00 - 28:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 58 (28:30 - 29:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 59 (29:00 - 29:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 60 (29:30 - 30:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 61 (30:00 - 30:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 62 (30:30 - 31:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 63 (31:00 - 31:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 64 (31:30 - 32:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 65 (32:00 - 32:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 66 (32:30 - 33:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 67 (33:00 - 33:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 68 (33:30 - 34:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 69 (34:00 - 34:30): Shade of Blue
Chapter 70 (34:30 - 35:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 71 (35:00 - 35:20): Shade of Blue
Chapter 72 (35:20 - 36:00): Shade of Blue
Chapter 73 (36:00 - 36:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 74 (36:30 - 37:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 75 (37:00 - 37:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 76 (37:30 - 38:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 77 (38:00 - 38:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 78 (38:30 - 39:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 79 (39:00 - 39:30): Shade of Red
Chapter 80 (39:30 - 40:00): Shade of Red
Chapter 81 (40:00 - 40:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 82 (40:30 - 41:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 83 (41:00 - 41:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 84 (41:30 - 42:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 85 (42:00 - 42:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 86 (42:30 - 43:00): Shade of Green
Chapter 87 (43:00 - 43:30): Shade of Green
Chapter 88 (43:30 - 44:00): Shade of Gray
Chapter 89 (44:00 - 44:30): Shade of Gray
Chapter 90 (44:30 - 45:00): Shade of Gray

So why is it that Blue and Red get 3:00 each, and Green only gets 2:30? Won't that not age the green as much (causing some things to appear too green)?

Has anyone else noticed this, or is there something wrong with my DVD player?

Clint S.

06-20-10, 03:49 AM

JRod0802

06-21-10, 04:18 PM

The DVD method seems to be a bit "flaky". That's why I never used it, but I did download the file and view it on WMP and I also noticed things like that. (In addition to many more colors than that of the thumb drive images), there seems to be randomness as to how often and how long the different colors are displayed. :confused: Maybe the R & B "needs to age longer". ?? Only the DVD creator can answer that, so maybe he will.

Thanks for the reply. What did you end up using to break in your plasma? I'm getting a little nervous now... I've been using the DVD mentioned on this site for the last ~40 hours (and counting), and I don't want my colors to be off.

richardnva

06-23-10, 08:00 PM

I've had 2 Panasonic plasmas, and just ordered my third (54" G20) and I've never done any burn in. I have been using the discwasher home theater setup disc to calibrate my settings and have had really good results. I do the calibration when I get the TV and then about every 6 months to account for natural burn in. Based on what I've read you really don't need to do an extended burn in with the new plasmas. I'd appreciate any feedback on what others are using for setup or calibration discs. Thanks!

spdracer

07-17-10, 11:05 AM

Tried running this with a usb card reader with an sd card and I get large black bars on the sides. Any suggestions?

JRod0802

07-18-10, 10:13 PM

Tried running this with a usb card reader with an sd card and I get large black bars on the sides. Any suggestions?

All the colors are solid across the screen, so you could try using one of the Zoom settings in your TV to try to prevent any black bars from showing up.

Clint S.

07-19-10, 05:59 AM

All the colors are solid across the screen, so you could try using one of the Zoom settings in your TV to try to prevent any black bars from showing up.
But he shouldn't have to do that. The images are 1920x1080 so the TV must be in forced 4:3 mode. :confused:

trellaine201

08-03-10, 11:11 PM

I just got my replacement TV and wonder: Do I really need to do this? I have my TV on quite a bit, is that good enough? Or use the disc?

JRod0802

08-04-10, 06:45 PM

I just got my replacement TV and wonder: Do I really need to do this? I have my TV on quite a bit, is that good enough? Or use the disc?

Just watching TV should be fine. Although if you do that during the breaking period of a TV, I would recommend watching TV stations that don't have black bars (on the sides or top/bottom) and don't have something that's always overlaid on the screen (like the score to a sports game, or the channel number of a news station).

If you think you'll be watching this type of programming, it would be better to either occasionally change the channel for a few minutes during those types of shows, or better yet just run the disc for 100 hours.

trellaine201

08-04-10, 06:51 PM

Just watching TV should be fine. Although if you do that during the breaking period of a TV, I would recommend watching TV stations that don't have black bars (on the sides or top/bottom) and don't have something that's always overlaid on the screen (like the score to a sports game, or the channel number of a news station).

If you think you'll be watching this type of programming, it would be better to either occasionally change the channel for a few minutes during those types of shows, or better yet just run the disc for 100 hours.

Thanks :) I am a HD watcher 90% and I channel flip lots. :o I guess I should be okay.

shabazkilla

08-05-10, 05:47 PM

Just wanted to give thanks. I just got my Samsung PN63C8000 up last night. I'm still hooking up the rest of my components but wanted to start the break in ASAP. I was able to copy the Video_TS folder onto a USB drive and play it from there. The only hiccup was an audio codec error which I was able to ignore.

Physicsboy

08-18-10, 12:23 AM

Just ordered Samsung PN63C8000, and will be here next week...my first plasma.

I'm a newb, so help would be appreciated. I have been reading a lot, but I'm still a little confused.

I can watch my tv out of the box, but I should do this slide thing? I assume it only helps minimize burn/IR??

I DL the iso file on page 2 of this thread. It is the latest and greatest?

I'm just wondering how to proceed when I get the TV.

1st - I'll play with it some...

But...should I calibrate it somehow...then run this slide thing? Or do the slide thing and then calibrate? Not sure if one will affect the other, and which should come first? Do these slides give me a better quality image?

And 1000 hours running this? Really? What benefit does this gain? Wondering how long to do...and was thinking of quick method (not sure how this all is done)?

Thanks in advance.

HDTV Freak

09-11-10, 01:39 PM

^ I also want to know if this should be run before or after calibrating.

Clint S.

09-12-10, 01:20 AM

^ I also want to know if this should be run before or after calibrating.
It should be run before calibrating because the break-in process "ages" the screen.

pepsicola74

09-20-10, 12:10 PM

wrong thread

jasona199

10-11-10, 11:01 AM

Hi everyone, not sure if this has been answered already but can this DVD be used to remove image retention?

Tks

Clint S.

10-11-10, 11:17 AM

Hi everyone, not sure if this has been answered already but can this DVD be used to remove image retention?

Tks
It's possible, it depends on how bad it is. Which TV is it? If it's a Kuro or Viera, or another with a similar 'video wipe' type of function, it's best to try that feature first.

jasona199

10-11-10, 11:34 AM

It's the Viera G25..

I think its bad.. I popped in a movie for 2hrs already and its still noticeable so now I'm trying this DVD. Looks like the IR came from the HUD while playing video games :(

Clint S.

10-12-10, 06:04 AM

Why not try its video wipe function? I would think it has it since the G15 has it.

jasona199

10-12-10, 10:26 AM

Clint S.

10-12-10, 10:46 AM

Actually, I have been running a DVD (HD movie) in a loop for about 10hrs now and it seems to be clearing up slowly but surely..I'll keep at it until its gone (hope this works)

I find that the scrolling bar doesnt help a whole lot... just from my experience
The break-in images would be a lot better than a movie. Also be sure the brightness and contrast are up when using the images.

If you can connect it to a PC, there are some other things you can try.

jasona199

10-12-10, 11:03 AM

The break-in images would be a lot better than a movie. Also be sure the brightness and contrast are up when using the images.

If you can connect it to a PC, there are some other things you can try.

thanks for your replies btw.. I put in break-in DVD and set the contrast and brightness to 90..and yes I can connect to a PC.

Clint S.

10-12-10, 11:30 AM

Ok then read this below (I'm just pasting it from a post at an email list). You can put these on your PC and run them using the TV as the monitor:

Even though my LCD monitor is set to power down after 5
minutes, I had some image retention on it at the bottom where
the taskbar is. You could faintly see the "Start" button,
address bar, and IR for what's on the Quick Launch toolbar.
Most monitors will probably have something like this because of
course there's no screensaver or powering down that can prevent
it WHILE you're using your monitor. It may not be noticeable
until you "Auto hide the taskbar" (right click then
"Properties" on the 'classic' Windows theme on XP), and open
something like Notepad and move it to that area, and you can
probably see some IR or BI.

I run this program from time to time, and I let it run for
about 16 hours yesterday and the BI/IR I saw is 99% gone. It's
an "executable jar file" so you have to have something like Sun
Java installed for it to run. You just click it after
downloading it and it goes TOTALLY FULL screen. Make
sure your monitor's contrast and brightness are max'd out.
If for some reason it doesn't go full screen and if there's any
toolbar or taskbar seen, DO NOT run it because it can only
make things worse. "StuckSweep":

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/stucksweep/Stuck%20Pixel%20Sweeper/1.0%20RC1/stucksweep.jar?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fs tucksweep%2F&ts=1286175216&use_mirror=voxel

Don't watch it, watching it could cause "an epileptic event".
LoL.

This probably WILL NOT work for stuck/dead/hot pixels. For
that there's something like "JScreenFix" but the downloaded
file for some reason has suddenly stopped working. It will
only work now at their website which IS BAD because it does NOT
go FULL screen!
(http://www.jscreenfix.com/applet.php?width=1600&height=1400).
Regardless of the resolution at the end, it leaves toolbars
visible which again, is bad. (I emailed them and asked what's
going on with the downloaded file). The download that stays on
your PC DID go totally full screen, but it's throwing all kinds
of Sun Java errors and won't run. The URL's shown in the error
boxes are all valid, so I don't know what's going on with it.
It's not a Java problem because the "StuckSweep" program above
is also Java. I can no longer find the download at their site.
http://www.jscreenfix.com/
http://www.jscreenfix.com/basic.php
But there's still an FAQ about it, but again with no link to
the download:
http://www.jscreenfix.com/faq/16-i-have-downloaded-jscreenfix.jnlp-how-can-i-run-it
I did however find the download URL from an outside source, if
anyone wants to try it:
http://www.fileratings.com/Review/JScreenFix
http://www.jscreenfix.com/JScreenFix.jnlp

These types of programs will also work on LCD or plasma TV's if
you can find a way to get them to run on a TV, like if your TV
has a PC-in (DVI or VGA) connection.

Here's some other links for possibly fixing BI, IR, or pixel
problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuck_pixel (some links at bottom)
http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor
http://digg.com/news/technology/Fix_stuck_pixels_and_burn_in_on_LCD_and_plasma_screens
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-software-solutions-to-fix-a-stuck-pixel-on-your-lcd-monitor/
http://udpix.free.fr/

Update:
I already got a reply back from JScreenFix and they got it
working again. So the download I gave in the post above
(http://www.jscreenfix.com/JScreenFix.jnlp) will once again
work. They also have a pay version available that will run
longer than 20 minutes and has a lot of features.
http://www.jscreenfix.com/deluxe.php (I don't see the cost,
and it appears it might be free to run on ONE PC). I
downloaded it, it's loaded with numerous features, haven't
figured it out yet. I can't say yet if it's totally free.

jasona199

10-13-10, 05:37 PM

Clint S.

10-14-10, 07:41 AM

......If you watch 4:3 with bars on the left and right side then these phosphors are not being used, but the phosphors in the middle of the screen are being used.

This would explain why the sides are brighter than the middle of the screen.
While it's common knowledge at these types of forums what 4:3 content (improperly used) can do, newbies may not know it. But that's not exactly correct what they say; because the side bars can be made light gray (at least on the G10 & G15), where the phosphors are then theoretically "supposed" to be aged like the rest of the screen. However, that's not exactly the case, because the G15 I got my Dad has IR for the side bars and he uses the light gray bars. :confused:

Now that I think about it, I could be wrong, but I think I remember the side IR on his TV is darker, which would seem to indicate the light gray bars are aged more therefore are brighter than most program content.

You can try to even out the phosphors by running your TV on a snowy screen overnight, each night for a week or two, to see if this helps.
That's a good idea.

The bottom line, and like I always say, if you watch 4:3 content you must follow with some (how much?) full-screen content. But I have never heard anyone or any website say just how much full-screen content should be put on the TV after 4:3 content is viewed. 1:1 ratio? Or more in favor of full-screen? Dunno. It would also depend on the brightness/contrast/gamma settings because if those are turned way up during full-screen content it should take less time.

Abius

11-03-10, 10:20 PM

Hi all,

I dont know if its a problem with anyone else. When I play the burnt iso file I burnt to a DVD. It only runs for 44 minutes. Is there something that im doing wrong. I know how to burn and rip DVDs. I dont know what the problem is.

I used Img Burn to, err, burn the DVD. Used both the iso and the mds as a source file.

This is for my newly acquired LG 50PK550.

Clint S.

11-04-10, 03:01 AM

It's supposed to be ~44 minutes, (with a DVD it can't really run more than a couple of hours anyway due to the media limits). Just set to to loop or repeat.

ajnakata

11-04-10, 12:53 PM

any guy can provide a file of avchd format so that i can run it in my panasonic v20 via the sd card?

wstncups

11-05-10, 04:46 PM

Made the DVD and it stops at 59 seconds? I can fast foward it past that point and it keeps running. Odd? I guess I need to burn another disk? Also is it set up to continuos loop or is that something I need to do in my DVD player?

Thanks

amsalp_user

11-05-10, 06:49 PM

Hi,

I have been using a break in dvd which shows 90 colours which change every 30 seconds. The DVD lasts for 24 hours non stop, without having to set the DVD on loop. The DVD does it itself. I have run the dvd for around 100 hours now so I should soon reach the 150 hours break in that I am aiming for.

JJSnyder

11-12-10, 03:41 PM

When I hit my info button it shows 720 x 480i. Is this what it should say or did I do something wrong?

HDTV Freak

11-27-10, 07:15 PM

Do i have to set to 720p over hdmi? I have a 1080p plasma.

1q3er5

12-27-10, 07:02 PM

hi I am using the usb flash drive for the burn in pictures. I am confusted now on the other website it says you should side with caution and use low contrast low brightness but I am seeing you guys are recommending maxed out contrast and brightness which one is it!!

I have a brand new samsung 50" 6400 plasma. I've put probably 3 hours on it in "standard" mode.

Clint S.

12-28-10, 03:31 AM

hi I am using the usb flash drive for the burn in pictures. I am confusted now on the other website it says you should side with caution and use low contrast low brightness but I am seeing you guys are recommending maxed out contrast and brightness which one is it!!
I've asked that here (on this thread and others) several times and no one will answer.

blackblaze

12-28-10, 11:55 AM

All, there is absolutely NO reason to do this any longer. Plasmas today do not need any other breakin than watching regular material. If you're doing this still, then all you're doing is wasting 100 hrs of TV watching on your new TV. As long as you have the full screen taken up when you watch material, the screen will evenly break in itself. No slides are needed whatsoever.

Notice this thread was created in 2005! Plasmas have come a long way since then. :-)

That is what I was thinking, as I think people do it as peace of mind that doing this is for precautionary purposes rather than not doing it. I just got the 58c8000 and was thinking I should do it as well, because I've read that calibration shouldn't be done until the plasma has been broken in.

blackblaze

12-28-10, 11:57 AM

I've asked that here (on this thread and others) several times and no one will answer.

That seems to happen a lot here, questions go unanswered :-(, I still have yet to hear a response on surge protection and I would think this forum would be the perfect place to get some input regarding that topic on a high end plasma TV.

gcihlar

12-29-10, 02:21 PM

So finally moved on from my 5 year old DLP and bought my first plasma and stumbled upon this sight... The tv i got was the Samsung PN50C550 , i played a bit of madden and see some burn in on the bottom will running this help? Also i do not see a down load link to down load the program. Like I said a am a noobie to these tv's any help with a walk through would really be appreciated.

Clint S.

12-29-10, 10:09 PM

That seems to happen a lot here, questions go unanswered :-(, I still have yet to hear a response on surge protection and I would think this forum would be the perfect place to get some input regarding that topic on a high end plasma TV.
There's a couple of people here (that shall go unnamed) that seem to get really defensive when discussing "his" break-in method and "the other guy's" break-in method and how they contradict each other. Like I and dozens of others have always said; it's not a matter of even wanting to know who's necessarily RIGHT, but why the differences in approaches.

You can search using my username and break-in, or phosphors, and hopefully find a lot of posts on that.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/search.php?searchid=16605841
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/search.php?searchid=16605852
There's at least a couple of pretty long ones regarding my philosophy on this.

As far as "surge" goes, do the same search in the Kuro forums (but use surge of course) and you'll find a lot of posts on that. Also be sure and read the posts above/or below mine in each result area. In short, it's best to get a UPS. Only a UPS will protect against those spontaneous instantaneous rapid OFF/ON/OFF/ON events, (several cycles over a few seconds) those are very common in this area and can ruin a PSU is just about anything. I've had numerous appliances destroyed because of those. Put all your expensive goods on a UPS and they will prevent that. Sure, a warranty (if it's in warranty) will cover that, but why bother with all the BS of a warranty claim if it can be avoided.

You don't need a UPS to actually run the TV for a period of time, just long enough for you to shut it off, or unplug it, until the electricity starts behaving itself again. If you do want one to actually run the TV for minutes, it may be best to get a more expensive one that uses a pure sine-wave waveform.