Sorry, but who are E* and D*? I've seen those two around here and were wondering what they were.

E* = Echostar = Dish Network
D* = DirecTV

Hope that they do add those stations. Dragging their heels on adding the major broadcast network local station to the HD lineup is not a good way to win over customers. However, March 17th is a Saturday and St. Patrick's Day no less. I can't see them adding the stations on a Saturday or a Sunday; they may have to drag some of the engineers out of the local Irish bar or some of them will have huge hangovers. Not a good idea. :D They may have given March 17 as the date by which the stations will be added as the if-something-goes-wrong date.

But we are still in the dark as to when any new HD national channels will be added. Only reports that it will be by the end of the first quarter. I asked this year before, but did not get a real answer. What was the last national HD channel added and when did Verizon add it? It has been at least 6 months, that much I do know.

Looks like you are probably right on our locals being added today, so far nothing. If they aren't on by Monday Verizon is going to be getting a very angry phone call.

HDNet hockey is done entirely by HDNet. They have their own cameras, their own broadcasters and their own production teams.

Cablevision won't allow MSG-HD or FSNY-HD on FiOS so don't hold your breath.
Some clarification: For hockey broadcasts, HD Net brings their own truck [ a 53-footer complete with sat dish on the top], their own production team and own announcers, but use the majority of the home team's cameras while supplementing their broadcast with 1/2/ or 3 cameras of their own. That depends on what the home facilities have to spare .. HD Net gets a feed of the home team's replay matrix.
Usually HDNet is the third broadcaster in an arena for many events ... home team [usually in HD] away team [most times in SD] and HDNet as the third man in [without penalty!!!] I've seen them also as the 4th broadcaster in [like in some games where the third broadcaster is TSN or RDS from Canada]
Then it's a tv sports pig-xxxx ... and much OT for the home team's electrician and tv maintenance staff! One only has so many camera positions in an arena.

And yeah .. unless there's some legislation or political pressure down the line, cable system owners who also own sports cable networks probably won't give up their HD channels to telco tv providers ... or satellite tv providers for that matter. [see Comcast vs. DirecTV for one other example that doesn't have the name Dolan involved].

How do you order PPV on Fios. I want to watch the fight tonight and don't see it listed anywhere. Thanks

How do you order PPV on Fios. I want to watch the fight tonight and don't see it listed anywhere. Thanks

Channel 701 has PPV events, I believe that is the only one other than the ESPN Full Court channels.

Anyone else with FIOS out there having a TV outage? (Sat. night 3/17?)

Been out for 4 hours now. Customer service provides no info. Useless.

Hey, it's NOT LIKE WE ARE MISSING GREAT NCAA BASKETBALL OR ANYTHING!

Maybe D* and Comcast were not so bad after all...

Anyone else with FIOS out there having a TV outage? (Sat. night 3/17?)

Been out for 4 hours now. Customer service provides no info. Useless.

Hey, it's NOT LIKE WE ARE MISSING GREAT NCAA BASKETBALL OR ANYTHING!

Maybe D* and Comcast were not so bad after all...
Maybe if you told where you are, we might be able to provide some support. In the northeast with the late winter snowstorm? In Texas? Florida? California?

Is there power going to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on the outside of the house? Are the green LEDs on at the power supply? You might also do a cold reboot on the DVR or STB by unplugging it for a minute and plugging it back it. I have seen no outages on my TV since I got Verizon in October, so the system is pretty reliable. But the line can be cut by someone digging who did not call Miss Utility or there could be a failure at the phone company CO. This is why it is always useful to have an antenna and ATSC receiver or built-in tuner as a backup.

Maybe if you told where you are, we might be able to provide some support. In the northeast with the late winter snowstorm? In Texas? Florida? California?

Is there power going to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on the outside of the house? Are the green LEDs on at the power supply? You might also do a cold reboot on the DVR or STB by unplugging it for a minute and plugging it back it. I have seen no outages on my TV since I got Verizon in October, so the system is pretty reliable. But the line can be cut by someone digging who did not call Miss Utility or there could be a failure at the phone company CO. This is why it is always useful to have an antenna and ATSC receiver or built-in tuner as a backup.

I am in Mass. I got through to customer service and they said it is a "broad outage," not a problem with my setup. But they had no detail other than that. Service has now been out for over 5 hours. Can't even get through to customer service anymore. It's weird. The guide still works. I-net still works. Even On Demand works. But there is no live TV on any channel. Just a black screen.

It's the complete lack of information that is most frustrating. I experienced outages with Comcast, but they always sent a crew out and I never lost service for more than a couple of hours. I assume Verizon does have nighttme FiOS repairs crews on standby. Because if my service is out until Monday, then I might just be going back to D*.

Just wondering, are there any other localities besides Virginia Beach that does not have all the locals in HD? We have PBS and CBS only, although agreements have been reached with NBC, Fox, ABC, and the CW. We were told NBC and Fox would be available on March 17, that has come and gone and they are not available.

Looks like you are probably right on our locals being added today, so far nothing. If they aren't on by Monday Verizon is going to be getting a very angry phone call.

They're used to the angry phone calls. They should spend the energy on providing what they promise. The last VZ service person I had at the house said he'd seen the new channel line-up w/dozens of new HD channels, but some how they never seem show up.

As of last night FSN and MSG are not in HD on FIOS-TV in NJ...


Since the Rangers appear to be "skipping" the postseason this year, the lack of MSG-HD this year doesn't bother me too much (I do not watch basketball). I'm hoping Verizon strongarms Dolan by next season. FSN-HD might be easier to get since they will have to deal with somewhat reasonable people (I hope).

Since the Rangers appear to be "skipping" the postseason this year, the lack of MSG-HD this year doesn't bother me too much (I do not watch basketball). I'm hoping Verizon strongarms Dolan by next season. FSN-HD might be easier to get since they will have to deal with somewhat reasonable people (I hope).

I hope the FSN-HD your talking about in Fox Sports Network New York? Becasue the Dolans own that channel as well.

their cablevision adds say they have the most local sports in HD.
they can only claim that if they don't give verizon that channel.

Since the Rangers appear to be "skipping" the postseason this year, the lack of MSG-HD this year doesn't bother me too much (I do not watch basketball). I'm hoping Verizon strongarms Dolan by next season. FSN-HD might be easier to get since they will have to deal with somewhat reasonable people (I hope).

Too bad on both ends. Both are parts of the Dolan empire; FSN-NY licenses the Fox Sports name from News Corp. and uses some of their national programming, like HD NCAA football and basketball.

Verizon FiOS doesn't have the clout or the subscribers to gain leverage on anyone locally in NY ... wait 10 years perhaps. And if they don't offer fiber-to-the-premises [which is their unique selling proposition] in multiple unit buildings or urban areas such as New York City ... they're just another run-of-the-mill cable company ... one that FYI doesn't have plans to offer any locally produced programming.

And in NY Verizon as far as customer service goes has as many or more customer relations/image problems as any cable or satellite providers. Hell, for landline telephone service they're still the monopoly that New York Telephone/Bell Atlantic/NYNEX was ... though you don't have to rent the Western Electric handset from them anymore. Just the cable card/box.

It's nice to have choice ... but like any other business where there is competition, one company or another will be able to advertise what they think of are advantages over the other company. Dolan & Co. thinks it's their sports teams in HD, or News 12 [add the region]. Time Warner does the same with NY 1 News.

Think of the cellphone service industry for an analogue. One geographic area will have many competitors [Verizon, ATT/Cingular, T-Mobile, Sprint/Nextel, etc.] with virtually the same service and coverage area, but each does have its differences ... and exclusives.

I received a call from a VCS rep who stated that NESN HD was due to go live on or around March 31st. Has anyone else heard that date?

Im on the phone right now, been an hour and twenty minutes, the first guy I talked to me I was supposed to have all the new HD channels and the new guide, had me turn on the boxes, put me on hold and I got rerouted to a complete different office and the tech had no idea about the new guide or the new channels, also told me that if I call up and cancel the internet and reapply I would immediately get the new 10/2 dl speeds rather than the 5/2, this company drives me nuts, I just want solid answers , stop blowing smoke up my ass about dates and new features, announce them when the ACTUALLY come out not before and don't promise dates you don't intend to keep.

I received a call from a VCS rep who stated that NESN HD was due to go live on or around March 31st. Has anyone else heard that date?

Got this email two days ago:
Thank you for contacting the Verizon eCenter. I have received your email dated Mar 16, 2007 regarding your Verizon FiOS Tv channel lineup. My name is Beverly,

Regretfully, at this time, we do not have a projected date for the New England Sports Network being offered in HD.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,
Beverly
Verizon eCenter
So who really speaks for VZ?

If they do not have NESN in HS by Opeing Day, then I will take the verizon boxes and throw them through the verizon office windows. Every one I talked to promised me NESN-HD and it better happen......OR ELSE!!!

If they do not have NESN in HS by Opeing Day, then I will take the verizon boxes and throw them through the verizon office windows. Every one I talked to promised me NESN-HD and it better happen......OR ELSE!!!

I'll just start refusing to pay my bill, then keep telling them, should only be a couple more weeks.

That is the most aggravating part of Verizon. You don't know who to trust when you speak with them. It's too bad the picture quality is superior to others. Otherwise I would be back to Comcast come opening day.

That is the most aggravating part of Verizon. You don't know who to trust when you speak with them. It's too bad the picture quality is superior to others. Otherwise I would be back to Comcast come opening day.

You should not trust any of them, its obvious that the CSRs and PR reps dont get any direct information, and that there are many rumors spreading throughou the company.

Until corporate releases an statement that says more channels are coming, dont get your hopes up. although they have proven that even corporate documentation can be wrong (see the CSN debacle for the DC area).

If you guys switched because verizon employees promised channels then I feel bad for you. But did you cable company not do this same crap too. I had many different technicians from Adelphia promise me that new HD channels were coming, and that ADS was coming, and I was with them for 2 years and saw neither happen.

That is the most aggravating part of Verizon. You don't know who to trust when you speak with them. It's too bad the picture quality is superior to others. Otherwise I would be back to Comcast come opening day.
So, in other words, they are like any other provider regarding customer service? I guess this proves they CAN compete with the big boys...

You should not trust any of them, its obvious that the CSRs and PR reps dont get any direct information, and that there are many rumors spreading throughou the company.

Until corporate releases an statement that says more channels are coming, dont get your hopes up. although they have proven that even corporate documentation can be wrong (see the CSN debacle for the DC area).

If you guys switched because verizon employees promised channels then I feel bad for you. But did you cable company not do this same crap too. I had many different technicians from Adelphia promise me that new HD channels were coming, and that ADS was coming, and I was with them for 2 years and saw neither happen.

Hey, you could be like me and wait 3+ years for Cox to add your NBC, Fox, and ABC affiliates, finally get fed up and switch to Verizon because they actually had agreements with these companies and NBC/Fox were coming soon. A month after you switch Cox signs the affiliates and has their signal up 2 days after the agreement is signed. A couple weeks later and you are still waiting....and the initial date you were given passed 2 days ago.

VZ used to have a FIOS booth at our local mall that you could go to ask these sames questions. Problem was, when you asked them, they had to get on the phone to VCS and ask so they just parroted the VCS rep. But at least it was fun to bug a live person once a week. But they pulled them out of there right after Christmas. HO HO HO.

Hey, you could be like me and wait 3+ years for Cox to add your NBC, Fox, and ABC affiliates, finally get fed up and switch to Verizon because they actually had agreements with these companies and NBC/Fox were coming soon. A month after you switch Cox signs the affiliates and has their signal up 2 days after the agreement is signed. A couple weeks later and you are still waiting....and the initial date you were given passed 2 days ago.
I feel your frustration. There must be some technical reason why they have not added the local HD channels yet if they have an agreement. You would think.

But can't you get the HD locals with an antenna and a ATSC tuner? I don't know if you are in a dead spot or can't put up an antenna, but that is what I would do. When I started with Adelphia Loudoun in 2005, they did not carry the local PBS channel (WETA) or what was then the WB station on the HD tier. That motivated me to put up an antenna in the attic so I could get all the DC and the Baltimore locals OTA. Not long after, Adelphia added WETA PBS. But even now in 2007, after they have been taken over by Comcast, Comcast does not provide WDCW-DT CW 50 (what was the WB station) and WDCA-DT MNT 20 on the HD tier. Verizon does provide them so they are ahead of Comcast on the HD locals here. IMHO, it is always useful to have an antenna hookup as a backup to Verizon or cable.

If I were you, I would complain to Verizon and try to reach a management level or 2 above the CSR. They gave you a date and have not come through.

VZ used to have a FIOS booth at our local mall that you could go to ask these sames questions. Problem was, when you asked them, they had to get on the phone to VCS and ask so they just parroted the VCS rep. But at least it was fun to bug a live person once a week. But they pulled them out of there right after Christmas. HO HO HO. Actually we just started seeing those guys lately here in the DC area. When I saw them, I was so tempted to ask them something. So, I went to the booth and picked up their channel lineup sheet only to hear the girl tell"you wanna something cool about FiOS, there are even more channels on the back of that sheet too." That is when I knew that she is as dumb as a rock and just nodded like I am in awe and said "really?" and left.

I am telling you, FiOS puts dumb people to represent them whether you call them or meet them in person.

You should not trust any of them, its obvious that the CSRs and PR reps dont get any direct information, and that there are many rumors spreading throughou the company.

Until corporate releases an statement that says more channels are coming, dont get your hopes up. although they have proven that even corporate documentation can be wrong (see the CSN debacle for the DC area).

If you guys switched because verizon employees promised channels then I feel bad for you. But did you cable company not do this same crap too. I had many different technicians from Adelphia promise me that new HD channels were coming, and that ADS was coming, and I was with them for 2 years and saw neither happen.


I signed up in early January, as soon as the service became available in Northern NJ, because the .PDF channel lineup they had online listed a dedicated channel for SportsNet NY-HD. The lineup the tech left with me also listed the channel, 829.

Fast forward to today. We still don't have it in Northern NJ, and it's been removed from the lineup they have on their site. I've heard various things from billing/customer service, ranging from "no plans" to "guaranteed by opening day."

I was so excited to switch from Comcast that, against my better judgement, I became an early adopter. When the Mets first home game comes April 9th, and I'm stuck watching it in SD, I'll know that Comcast will be showing it on one of their 2 new sports special events HD channels; and I'll feel like a dope.

I know I can always switch back, but I'll leave that decision until I know for sure what happens when the season starts.

With the exception of that and not being able to watch Countdown on MSNBC anymore, I'm happy with the service.

I have no inside info but they do offer SNY-HD in Mercer County (they also already have Fox Soccer Channel on Ch 76 there). I expect that we will get SNY-HD on the 26th when they move Fox Soccer channel.

Also, I miss Olbermann more than I thought I would. Yeah a lot of stuff is available online but it is not the same. jimapp, you realize we are probably the only two people in town who like Countdown.

I am here by Dulles town center in VA and I had the same experience. Lady was at the counter and I was like " are you guys getting CSN HD anytime soon?" She looked at me and said " That channel?" "No, no we are not getting THAT channel." Bear in mind that she had no clue as to what I was talking about. I could have been asking about the Disney/Playboy combo channel and her response would have been the same.

I have no inside info but they do offer SNY-HD in Mercer County (they also already have Fox Soccer Channel on Ch 76 there). I expect that we will get SNY-HD on the 26th when they move Fox Soccer channel.

Also, I miss Olbermann more than I thought I would. Yeah a lot of stuff is available online but it is not the same. jimapp, you realize we are probably the only two people in town who like Countdown.


Oh, yeah. I grew up here. Much more of a FOX News town.

Actually we just started seeing those guys lately here in the DC area. When I saw them, I was so tempted to ask them something. So, I went to the booth and picked up their channel lineup sheet only to hear the girl tell"you wanna something cool about FiOS, there are even more channels on the back of that sheet too." That is when I knew that she is as dumb as a rock and just nodded like I am in awe and said "really?" and left.

I am telling you, FiOS puts dumb people to represent them whether you call them or meet them in person.

Hahahah. No offense, but I really doubt VZ set up a booth in a DC area mall to win over anybody with enough wherewithal to visit this site.

They're going after, you know, normies.

Received today from VZ regarding NESN-HD:

The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

Carol Baribeau
Regional Director
Public Affairs
413 731-8606

So does hd net for fios carry rangers and islander games?

So does hd net for fios carry rangers and islander games?

HDNet has a schedule, visit www.hd.net. If they are showing Devils, Rangers or Islanders games the game will be blacked out in the NY/NJ area.

If you live in the NYC Area and not having local hockey in HD is a deal breaker for you, look elsewhere. FiOS doesn't have it and won't get it for the foreseeable future.

FiOS doesn't even have Versus-HD so keep that mind too.

thanks

Received today from VZ regarding NESN-HD:

The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

Carol Baribeau
Regional Director
Public Affairs
413 731-8606

Wow-
Now they're f'ing over the NESN fans. VZ just keeps the hits coming. What a circus of an operation. Technical difficulties?? Lol...right.

I feel your frustration. There must be some technical reason why they have not added the local HD channels yet if they have an agreement. You would think.

But can't you get the HD locals with an antenna and a ATSC tuner? I don't know if you are in a dead spot or can't put up an antenna, but that is what I would do. When I started with Adelphia Loudoun in 2005, they did not carry the local PBS channel (WETA) or what was then the WB station on the HD tier. That motivated me to put up an antenna in the attic so I could get all the DC and the Baltimore locals OTA. Not long after, Adelphia added WETA PBS. But even now in 2007, after they have been taken over by Comcast, Comcast does not provide WDCW-DT CW 50 (what was the WB station) and WDCA-DT MNT 20 on the HD tier. Verizon does provide them so they are ahead of Comcast on the HD locals here. IMHO, it is always useful to have an antenna hookup as a backup to Verizon or cable.

If I were you, I would complain to Verizon and try to reach a management level or 2 above the CSR. They gave you a date and have not come through.

I would just like the option to record them in HD, I do receive them OTA, otherwise I would probably be really angry and not just annoyed. I just think that Verizon missed out on a great marketing opportunity by not getting the HDs on before the competition.

NESN in mid-April eh???? It looks like Comcast in early May if they put it off one more time!

NESN in mid-April eh???? It looks like Comcast in early May if they put it off one more time!

I completly Agree. I will give them until End of April. If I do not have NESN HD by then, then they can take FIOS and shove it. Including there internet!!!

I talked to a woman in the providence office, she was very nice and told me she wished she had an answer and that they receive so many calls every day about this issue, then she asked me to look up the schedule for her and find out what day was opening day because she was going to take that one off so she wouldn't have to take the angry Sox fan phone calls. Seriously....no joke.

As has been said many times on this site, you have to vote with your feet. What can be so technical that it takes them months to put a channel up? It should be days. Recently they added IFC & AMC within days of announcing they would be coming "soon". And that was before the wholesale channel lineup changes.

I have to credit Comcast, when they said a new channel was to be added, it was. At least in my area.

Received today from VZ regarding NESN-HD:

The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

Carol Baribeau
Regional Director
Public Affairs
413 731-8606

Ok, as a Sox fan this doesn't make me happy. But assuming this information is valid at least we're getting something concrete regarding NESN-HD. That's really all I ask, is that they provide timely, honest and consistent information.

I'm not happy with the delay but I can live with it. I switched from DirecTV fully aware that FIOS didn't have NESN-HD. I went into this with the assumption that they'd get it eventually but I'd need to be patient. At the time I signed up I had the choice of going to Comcast where I could immediately get NESN-HD. I made the choice NOT to do that so I just have to deal with the delays or change to Comcast. I'm happier overall with FIOS so I'll wait it out as patiently as possible.

Wow, didn't know fios was getting nesn hd that soon (hopefully). I may have to dump directv.

Wow, didn't know fios was getting nesn hd that soon (hopefully). I may have to dump directv. Do yourself a favor and wait until a member confirms that they have NESN HD. We are still waiting for CSN-HD which was promised FEBRUARY 20th.

As has been said many times on this site, you have to vote with your feet. What can be so technical that it takes them months to put a channel up? It should be days. Recently they added IFC & AMC within days of announcing they would be coming "soon". And that was before the wholesale channel lineup changes.

I have to credit Comcast, when they said a new channel was to be added, it was. At least in my area.


You're comparing Davids and Goliaths. Comcast has a huge subscriber base so it has much more leverage in the market to obtain contracts on favorable terms to carry additional stations. VZ may be a large company but as a TV provider it is tiny and has far less leverage. Therefore, it's going to take them long to sign agreements for some stations.

Do yourself a favor and wait until a member confirms that they have NESN HD. We are still waiting for CSN-HD which was promised FEBRUARY 20th.

I thought we confirmed that the promise was a printing error? I'm pretty sure someone posted that there's no agreement in place with CSN-MA HD.

It was a printing error, a very BAD printing error!

You're comparing Davids and Goliaths. Comcast has a huge subscriber base so it has much more leverage in the market to obtain contracts on favorable terms to carry additional stations. VZ may be a large company but as a TV provider it is tiny and has far less leverage. Therefore, it's going to take them long to sign agreements for some stations.

I believe the point was that it was taking a long time to get the channels up after an agreement has been signed.

Same thing is going on here. Cox signs ABC, NBC, and Fox affiliates and they go up a day or two after the agreement was signed. Verizon has had agreements with the ABC and CW affiliates since BEFORE launching service here in early January and the channels are nowhere in sight. They signed NBC and Fox affiliates on January 3 and there have been "technical difficulties" that have now delayed the launch until at least March 30, however my guess is we will be lucky to see them before early summer.

You're comparing Davids and Goliaths. Comcast has a huge subscriber base so it has much more leverage in the market to obtain contracts on favorable terms to carry additional stations. VZ may be a large company but as a TV provider it is tiny and has far less leverage. Therefore, it's going to take them long to sign agreements for some stations.

Acknowledged, however they have said they have had the carriage agreement w/NESN for several months now.

I realize that this is probably in this thread already but a little too lazy to look. So what are opinions for long island customers? cablevision or verizion? The local hockey hd issue kinda sucks for verizon, so strike one.

There are only a handful of Verizon tv customers on Long Island at this time.
But think of it this way ... those that can choose between the two cable and two satellite services are in it pretty good. Choice is nice. It's so American.

Cable and Verizon can both offer tv/internet/phone. Satellite doesn't.
Satellite may give you more national sports options (D* NFL, NHL, NBA and coming MLB multiple game packages)
Cable gives you locallly produced programming such as News 12 and franchise-legislated programming such as public access, and the aforementioned high-def hockey and Knicks games, which for the forseeable future will only be on cable.
Depending where you live there may be more ethnic programming on cable.

It all hinges on what you really want and need. That's what having choice is all about.
Maybe you don't want a dish on your house.
Maybe you've had cable or satellite for awhile, and want to try the new guy.
After all, Cablevision has been around for about 30 years, more or less. Verizon's been selling the tv service for about a year.
It will all depends in the long run on who has the best bang for the buck, ease of use, good customer service.
Picture quality's all about the same.
I'd just like to see what VZ does for office buildings. apartment, co-op or condo complexes, where it is rumored they will do fiber to a demarc and coax throughout the building to cut costs. Then it's truly the same as any other modern cable system (fiber to the pole, coax to the home).

Ok, as a Sox fan this doesn't make me happy. But assuming this information is valid at least we're getting something concrete regarding NESN-HD. That's really all I ask, is that they provide timely, honest and consistent information.

I'm not happy with the delay but I can live with it. I switched from DirecTV fully aware that FIOS didn't have NESN-HD. I went into this with the assumption that they'd get it eventually but I'd need to be patient. At the time I signed up I had the choice of going to Comcast where I could immediately get NESN-HD. I made the choice NOT to do that so I just have to deal with the delays or change to Comcast. I'm happier overall with FIOS so I'll wait it out as patiently as possible.


Be careful, tmembrino, that kind of attitude doesn't fly around here ! ;)

Be careful, tmembrino, that kind of attitude doesn't fly around here ! ;)


:D It does seem far too rational for a post in this thread doesn't it?

There are only a handful of Verizon tv customers on Long Island at this time.
But think of it this way ... those that can choose between the two cable and two satellite services are in it pretty good. Choice is nice. It's so American.

Cable and Verizon can both offer tv/internet/phone. Satellite doesn't.
Satellite may give you more national sports options (D* NFL, NHL, NBA and coming MLB multiple game packages)
Cable gives you locallly produced programming such as News 12 and franchise-legislated programming such as public access, and the aforementioned high-def hockey and Knicks games, which for the forseeable future will only be on cable.
Depending where you live there may be more ethnic programming on cable.

It all hinges on what you really want and need. That's what having choice is all about.
Maybe you don't want a dish on your house.
Maybe you've had cable or satellite for awhile, and want to try the new guy.
After all, Cablevision has been around for about 30 years, more or less. Verizon's been selling the tv service for about a year.
It will all depends in the long run on who has the best bang for the buck, ease of use, good customer service.
Picture quality's all about the same.
I'd just like to see what VZ does for office buildings. apartment, co-op or condo complexes, where it is rumored they will do fiber to a demarc and coax throughout the building to cut costs. Then it's truly the same as any other modern cable system (fiber to the pole, coax to the home).



Yeah, choice is nice. I have cable now and the adition to nghd and dischd made me much happier as a cablevision customer. I'll hold out on switching for now and see how much the local hockey weighs on me.

Is fios better then time warner as far as reception goes because i can already see there HD lineup is much better

Ok, as a Sox fan this doesn't make me happy. But assuming this information is valid at least we're getting something concrete regarding NESN-HD. That's really all I ask, is that they provide timely, honest and consistent information.

I'm not happy with the delay but I can live with it. I switched from DirecTV fully aware that FIOS didn't have NESN-HD. I went into this with the assumption that they'd get it eventually but I'd need to be patient. At the time I signed up I had the choice of going to Comcast where I could immediately get NESN-HD. I made the choice NOT to do that so I just have to deal with the delays or change to Comcast. I'm happier overall with FIOS so I'll wait it out as patiently as possible.

But I got this email two days before the one your referring to.

Thank you for contacting the Verizon eCenter. I have received your email dated Mar 16, 2007 regarding your Verizon FiOS Tv channel lineup. My name is Beverly,

Regretfully, at this time, we do not have a projected date for the New England Sports Network being offered in HD.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,
Beverly
Verizon eCenter

I signed up in early January, as soon as the service became available in Northern NJ, because the .PDF channel lineup they had online listed a dedicated channel for SportsNet NY-HD. The lineup the tech left with me also listed the channel, 829.

Fast forward to today. We still don't have it in Northern NJ, and it's been removed from the lineup they have on their site. I've heard various things from billing/customer service, ranging from "no plans" to "guaranteed by opening day."

I was so excited to switch from Comcast that, against my better judgement, I became an early adopter. When the Mets first home game comes April 9th, and I'm stuck watching it in SD, I'll know that Comcast will be showing it on one of their 2 new sports special events HD channels; and I'll feel like a dope.

I know I can always switch back, but I'll leave that decision until I know for sure what happens when the season starts.

With the exception of that and not being able to watch Countdown on MSNBC anymore, I'm happy with the service.

Thank you for contacting the Verizon eCenter. I have received your email dated March 17, 2007 regarding SportsNet NY - HD.

We apologize that SportsNet NY - HD is not yet available to you. At this time we do not have a date when it will be available.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,
Laura
Verizon eCenter

Hopefully, Laura is just ill-informed.

Thank you for contacting the Verizon eCenter. I have received your email dated March 17, 2007 regarding SportsNet NY - HD.

We apologize that SportsNet NY - HD is not yet available to you. At this time we do not have a date when it will be available.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,
Laura
Verizon eCenter

Hopefully, Laura is just ill-informed.

No laura isnt Ill-informed. That is a canned response that the ecare people are told to recite. Verizon has finally realized its better to have the ecare people give no information, then it is to have each one give out whatever rumors they heard.
I like this move, now the only information about this issue will come from people who issue the statements, who may actually know whats going on.

But I got this email two days before the one your referring to.

Thank you for contacting the Verizon eCenter. I have received your email dated Mar 16, 2007 regarding your Verizon FiOS Tv channel lineup. My name is Beverly,

Regretfully, at this time, we do not have a projected date for the New England Sports Network being offered in HD.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,
Beverly
Verizon eCenter

Yes but the one you got is a canned response from ecare, the one he got was from the regional director.

Either way I wouldn't expect much, VZ has proven that they are in no hurry, and I don't see that changing.

HAS Anybody heard when verizon will offer UFC P.P.V. :(

I believe they already do offer the UFC PPV events. At least i watched one at a friends house and he has fios.

HAS Anybody heard when verizon will offer UFC P.P.V. :(

They offer the UFC fights on PPV, although only in SD.

Channel 701 I believe.

I thought we confirmed that the promise was a printing error? I'm pretty sure someone posted that there's no agreement in place with CSN-MA HD.I was told it was a printing error, is delayed for some time, and in the process of getting it by FiOS customer service reps. On other forums, people confirmed with CSR that CSN-HD is coming just don't know when. Well of course, all the channels will be coming to FiOS...SOMEDAY.

No laura isnt Ill-informed. That is a canned response that the ecare people are told to recite. Verizon has finally realized its better to have the ecare people give no information, then it is to have each one give out whatever rumors they heard.
I like this move, now the only information about this issue will come from people who issue the statements, who may actually know whats going on.

If they do actually have a date they will give it to you, I emailed Stephanie Lee to ask about our local NBC and Fox affiliates being added in HD and she came back with a date of March 30, which she said she got from the programming dept.

Can I get her e-mail!

If they do actually have a date they will give it to you, I emailed Stephanie Lee to ask about our local NBC and Fox affiliates being added in HD and she came back with a date of March 30, which she said she got from the programming dept.

That doesnt mean its true. If that date passes, and VZ gets flooded with complaints like they have for NESN, rest assured they will inform CSRs to only read a supplied canned response regarding your locals in HD, just like they have with NESN.

Frankly it makes more sense, why let CSRs give out "things they were told from programming", just to receive a slew of angry phone calls.

does anyone have something in writing (paper or email) that promises new HD channels by end of this quarter? could s/he post or PM to me? I'd like to have something to beat them over the head with :)

Can I get her e-mail!

Stephanie.Lee@verizon.com

That doesnt mean its true. If that date passes, and VZ gets flooded with complaints like they have for NESN, rest assured they will inform CSRs to only read a supplied canned response regarding your locals in HD, just like they have with NESN.

Frankly it makes more sense, why let CSRs give out "things they were told from programming", just to receive a slew of angry phone calls.

The previous date was March 17, so I am actually rather hopeful this date is correct.

Here is the email I received from a Verizon PR Rep (not a canned FSC rep) - an actual rep that I pulled off of a news release - in January, and then it was confirmed again in February. I emailed them again this month, and now they won't answer me at all. :mad:

Subject: Re: Delaware FIOS TV

Matt:

We plan to add HGTV-HD, Food Network-HD and others in the 1st quarter of 2007.

Beyond that, I can't provide you anything more specific because it is competitive in nature and the cable companies would love to know our plans.

Ok so I get Fios TV in 2 weeks. I have spent the past 3 days reading forums from all over the internet to determine the exact 5c settings for Fios TV with a Moto 6200 over firewire. I have an HTPC that does not have a firewire port so I want to know if I can record the shows I want before I make the purchase. From what I have read the locals should be no problem and I am not really interested in any HD channels. What I am most interested in is whether or not the other digital (non-HD) channels like Sci-fi, TNT, ESPN, etc. are sent as 5c record always, record once, or record never. If it is record once. Has anyone had any success recording those channels via firewire?

Thanks

Beyond that, I can't provide you anything more specific because it is competitive in nature and the cable companies would love to know our plans.

So that's why cable companies aren't adding more channels. They are waiting to find out what Verizon is planning to add.:rolleyes:

Huntington Beach and other cities can order FIOS services now.
See OC Register Article http://blogs.ocregister.com/gadgetress/archives/2007/03/its_official_fi.html

Huntington Beach and other cities can order FIOS services now.
See OC Register Article http://blogs.ocregister.com/gadgetress/archives/2007/03/its_official_fi.html


Looks like I'm going to need to move if I'm ever going to see FiOS. I don't see Van Nuys on that list. I think we're in AT&T land.

I received a letter from Verizon saying that FIOS TV will soon be available in Germantown MD and asking to sign up for priority installation. I am seriously considering this. I already have FIOS internet and it looks like I'll save about $25/m over my current DISH bill. My only reservation is that I really like my vip622 HD DVR. The comments about their Motorola HDDVR don't seem to be as good.

I received a letter from Verizon saying that FIOS TV will soon be available in Germantown MD and asking to sign up for priority installation. I am seriously considering this. I already have FIOS internet and it looks like I'll save about $25/m over my current DISH bill. My only reservation is that I really like my vip622 HD DVR. The comments about their Motorola HDDVR don't seem to be as good.

1. Don't expect VZ to notify you when the TV service actually becomes available in your area. I also put my name on " the list", but was never notified. I found out it was available thanks to an entry here on one of the AVS forums.

2. I know nothing about your current DVR. I came over to FiOS-TV from D*. The difference is dramatic. I have the VZ HDDVR and it is terrible. Company reps tell me that will be fixed with the major software upgrade coming later this year. We shall see. I guess it depends on whether or not you want to put up with the current VZ model until is is upgraded. I hear the TIVO Series III works well with the FiOS-TV system. VZ can hook it up for you if you buy one. Its upkeep would be your responsibility since it is not a VZ product. Also, cards are needed and it cuts out some of the FiOS-TV capabilities.

I find the VZ dvr to be not quite as good as my dish 522 as far as usability, but I find it a big step up from the cable companies offerings with the IGuide.

The DVR isn't that bad, sure it could be better, but its more than capable of reliably recording shows.

The VZ hddvr also plays nice with my HDMI switching receiver, which my cable companies did not.

Matt:

We plan to add HGTV-HD, Food Network-HD and others in the 1st quarter of 2007.

Beyond that, I can't provide you anything more specific because it is competitive in nature and the cable companies would love to know our plans.

Isn't March the end of the first quarter!?

Ok so I get Fios TV in 2 weeks. I have spent the past 3 days reading forums from all over the internet to determine the exact 5c settings for Fios TV with a Moto 6200 over firewire. I have an HTPC that does not have a firewire port so I want to know if I can record the shows I want before I make the purchase. From what I have read the locals should be no problem and I am not really interested in any HD channels. What I am most interested in is whether or not the other digital (non-HD) channels like Sci-fi, TNT, ESPN, etc. are sent as 5c record always, record once, or record never. If it is record once. Has anyone had any success recording those channels via firewire?

Thanks

I think you'll get better answers in either the HDTV Recetion Hardware or the HDTV Recorders forums.

Isn't March the end of the first quarter!?

Yes, so I guess there will be mass angry phone calls in 7 days over an email sent out by a VZ employee, which I would consider far from an official source. :rolleyes:

Yes, so I guess there will be mass angry phone calls in 7 days over an email sent out by a VZ employee, which I would consider far from an official source. :rolleyes:

That's just the point isn't it. What is an official source from VZ? There doesn't seem to be one.
When the issue is an HD channel that all the competitors in this area already carry and they miss a year of dates for when they will carry it, does it matter if its official or unofficial?

That's just the point isn't it. What is an official source from VZ? There doesn't seem to be one.
When the issue is an HD channel that all the competitors in this area already carry and they miss a year of dates for when they will carry it, does it matter if its official or unofficial?

Official would be a PR release, or a mailer sent out on VZ letterhead.

As far as whether it matters, probably not because VZ has released some shady information through official channels. But when its official then at least there is justification to complain about it.

Might be a little off topic but I have a few questions. I have had Fios for about 10 months. I just called to complain about the local commerical volume but they seemed clueless. Not sure if you others are seeing the same problem. Ok that is a little off topic for this thred but this isnt.

The rep mentioned they are coming with a new guide soon code named Mercury he says it should improve the experience. Is this IPTV? Also he said the new channel roll out is starting up north and working it way south. Which meand those of us in FLa get it last :). anyway I searched for Fios and Mercury and didnt find anything. I did find a resume on Google of someone who worked on it but that was all. Any scoop out there?

He also said we are all getting new Phillips remotes with the new guide.

Might be a little off topic but I have a few questions. I have had Fios for about 10 months. I just called to complain about the local commerical volume but they seemed clueless. Not sure if you others are seeing the same problem. Ok that is a little off topic for this thred but this isnt.

The rep mentioned they are coming with a new guide soon code named Mercury he says it should improve the experience. Is this IPTV? Also he said the new channel roll out is starting up north and working it way south. Which meand those of us in FLa get it last :). anyway I searched for Fios and Mercury and didnt find anything. I did find a resume on Google of someone who worked on it but that was all. Any scoop out there?

He also said we are all getting new Phillips remotes with the new guide.

There have been several on here who have posted about the volume problem on local commercials.

If that really is true on the new channel rollout I find that really, really strange. I would think they would want to go live all around the country at the same time, after all we are all paying the same amount. Perhaps he was thinking about when they were realigning the channels last month.

Might be a little off topic but I have a few questions. I have had Fios for about 10 months. I just called to complain about the local commerical volume but they seemed clueless. Not sure if you others are seeing the same problem. Ok that is a little off topic for this thred but this isnt.

The rep mentioned they are coming with a new guide soon code named Mercury he says it should improve the experience. Is this IPTV? Also he said the new channel roll out is starting up north and working it way south. Which meand those of us in FLa get it last :). anyway I searched for Fios and Mercury and didnt find anything. I did find a resume on Google of someone who worked on it but that was all. Any scoop out there?

He also said we are all getting new Phillips remotes with the new guide.

I don't know anything about the new lineup or mercury, But I love the new Remote! I got two. Just call and ask for them.

Might be a little off topic but I have a few questions. I have had Fios for about 10 months. I just called to complain about the local commerical volume but they seemed clueless. Not sure if you others are seeing the same problem. Ok that is a little off topic for this thred but this isnt.
I too have complained, and they are clueless. They say that they will pass the complaint on, but thats all I can get.



The rep mentioned they are coming with a new guide soon code named Mercury he says it should improve the experience. Is this IPTV? Also he said the new channel roll out is starting up north and working it way south. Which meand those of us in FLa get it last :). anyway I searched for Fios and Mercury and didnt find anything. I did find a resume on Google of someone who worked on it but that was all. Any scoop out there?
The new guide is just software, It will not be full IPTV, they debuted it at CES, and there are some screen shots in this thread and on VZ's site. The software was scheduled to get a nationwide rollout this summer, but I will be surprised if that is true. They were supposed to roll out the new guide in parts of NJ by now, but I still haven't read any reports of that happening yet.

I am not sure what he means by channel rollout, hopefully its good news about the new HD channels.



He also said we are all getting new Phillips remotes with the new guide.
Yes, they have been giving out the Phillips remotes to new subs for a couple months now. VZ seems to imply that the phillips remote will help get the most out of the new software.

Thanks I saw the CES stuff but wasnt sure if it was the same. Thanks for all the updates cant wait for new HD channels. And this commercial thing is going to drive me to divorce. Have to hook up the replaytv again so we can skip commericals.

How do you know if you have the Phillips remote? Mine just says Verizon on it.

http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv/customer+support/customer+support.htm

Click the link for pictures of the three possible remotes: Moto, Phillips, or SA.

Yep here is the link for the Phillips remote only w/pics and function
http://www22.verizon.com/nroneretail/nr/rdonlyres/0d93f875-4498-460f-8fc4-a15d519b4e7c/0/welcomekitremotecontrolinsrt_nc.pdf

The commercial volume problem is not specific to FIOS. I see the same thing on on E*. This is a known issue that originates at the networks. There are even devices on sale to automatically lower the volume of commercials. The advertisers purposely maximize the volume to get your attention.

The commercial volume problem is not specific to FIOS. I see the same thing on on E*. This is a known issue that originates at the networks. There are even devices on sale to automatically lower the volume of commercials. The advertisers purposely maximize the volume to get your attention.


Not True.

While you are right there is an issue of network commercials being louder than the shows. In our case the Verizon inserted commercials are 30-40% louder then the network commercials, which are 5-10% louder than the actual show.

Since the only commercials that are excessively loud are the ones that VZ inserts, (Local commercials, and VOD) I would say this is specific to FiOS.

Does anybody know what button on the Phillips remote will page down in the DVR listing, or in the menu guide? Kind like the channel up down button does in Tivo.

scrolling through the menu 1 by 1 is laboring.

thanks in advance.

Does anybody know what button on the Phillips remote will page down in the DVR listing, or in the menu guide? Kind like the channel up down button does in Tivo.

scrolling through the menu 1 by 1 is laboring.

thanks in advance.

The phillips remote does not have that ability yet. Until the new software gets released you are out of luck.

Official would be a PR release, or a mailer sent out on VZ letterhead.

As far as whether it matters, probably not because VZ has released some shady information through official channels. But when its official then at least there is justification to complain about it.

The email I received was FROM a press release representative - not a standard call center person, so I was putting a little more faith into that.

But with reading here, and over on DSLReports.com how much contrasting info is being dolled out by Verizon, I can't believe half the stuff I see.

Incorrect lineup cards published on the website, channel listings that are missing stations, 3 CSR's telling 3 different people 3 different dates when the new guide would be coming out, it's just unreal. If my employer let their company be run like this, we'd be out of business in no time.

I just scratch my head about how VZ handles FIOS TV like it's a minor-league product.

And to the other poster, yes, Mercury is the name being given to the new guide, when people are going to get it? Well, you're better off going to Atlantic City and gambling. The most concrete information that I think I can believe is that new installs will see it before existing customers - and that this will occur for at least a month and a half, meaning, new customers would see it at the beginning of the month, existing wouldn't get it until the middle of the following month.

The most concrete information that I think I can believe is that new installs will see it before existing customers - and that this will occur for at least a month and a half, meaning, new customers would see it at the beginning of the month, existing wouldn't get it until the middle of the following month.

That is the same info that I had received for the DE area. Which should also include PA & NJ. It is expected to be rolled out mid April to new installs.

Hello there. I recently made the switch from Comcast HD TV to Verizon FIOS TV service. It was activated a month or two ago and everything was great for the first couple of weeks. I first noticed a jittery or stuttering (I guess thats the best way to describe it) picture when watching the Rick Steve's Europe travel show on HDNET that I had recorded to the DVR. When there was any sort of panning on the program, the TV would jump and jitter and eventually give me a headache. I figured it was just a DVR issue but over the last week or so I've begun noticing it on any and all HD programming, both recorded to the DVR and watched live. The NCAA basketball games lately have been especially bad, forcing me to watch it GASP!!! on the non-hd channel.

Before I call Verizon and have to take another day off work to be here for them, has anyone else experienced anything like this? I'd appreciate any help. I really don't want to think about going back to Comcast, but this is really no way to live. :)

Thanks much.

Hello there. I recently made the switch from Comcast HD TV to Verizon FIOS TV service. It was activated a month or two ago and everything was great for the first couple of weeks. I first noticed a jittery or stuttering (I guess thats the best way to describe it) picture when watching the Rick Steve's Europe travel show on HDNET that I had recorded to the DVR. When there was any sort of panning on the program, the TV would jump and jitter and eventually give me a headache. I figured it was just a DVR issue but over the last week or so I've begun noticing it on any and all HD programming, both recorded to the DVR and watched live. The NCAA basketball games lately have been especially bad, forcing me to watch it GASP!!! on the non-hd channel.

Before I call Verizon and have to take another day off work to be here for them, has anyone else experienced anything like this? I'd appreciate any help. I really don't want to think about going back to Comcast, but this is really no way to live. :)

Thanks much.

Try powering off the DVR and pressing menu on the remote. Change the 4:3 override to either 480i or 480p and press menu again, then power the DVR back on. Having it set to None or Stretch can cause the stuttering issue you are speaking of. I'm not sure why, but it is a problem with the hardware. I had the same problem on my Cox DVR, which was more or less the same box.

This in no way will affect the quality of your HD programming, it only affects whether or not the box upconverts the SD content before sending it to your tv.

Incorrect lineup cards published on the website, channel listings that are missing stations, 3 CSR's telling 3 different people 3 different dates when the new guide would be coming out, it's just unreal. If my employer let their company be run like this, we'd be out of business in no time.
Not necessarily. None of the other options (cable, DBS) are substantially better.

Actually just cycling throught the output modes will fix the stutter for a while. no need to mess with the override.



Try powering off the DVR and pressing menu on the remote. Change the 4:3 override to either 480i or 480p and press menu again, then power the DVR back on. Having it set to None or Stretch can cause the stuttering issue you are speaking of. I'm not sure why, but it is a problem with the hardware. I had the same problem on my Cox DVR, which was more or less the same box.

This in no way will affect the quality of your HD programming, it only affects whether or not the box upconverts the SD content before sending it to your tv.

Actually just cycling throught the output modes will fix the stutter for a while. no need to mess with the override.

True, however leaving it at 480i or 480p should make the stuttering go away for good, at least I have never experienced it when set to this, plus it allows your set to do the upconverting which in some cases is a step up from letting the box do the upconverting.

I set it at 480i and all seems to be well. I was hoping it would be something easy like that.

Hopefully it stays this way. Thanks very much for your help.

-Chris

I have no inside info but they do offer SNY-HD in Mercer County (they also already have Fox Soccer Channel on Ch 76 there). I expect that we will get SNY-HD on the 26th when they move Fox Soccer channel.

Also, I miss Olbermann more than I thought I would. Yeah a lot of stuff is available online but it is not the same. jimapp, you realize we are probably the only two people in town who like Countdown.

Oh, well. It was a good thought, though.

Well, Fox Soccer successfully moved from 312 to 76 overnight.

The programming guide still does not list a channel name or programming, but the channel looked fine this AM.

No other updates to report.

Well, Fox Soccer successfully moved from 312 to 76 overnight.

The programming guide still does not list a channel name or programming, but the channel looked fine this AM.

No other updates to report.

Do you know if this is a nationwide move? I am not at home so can't see if it was moved on our system or not.

FWIW, a field tech reported that there would be 4 national HD stations added to the lineup on March 30, HGTV-HD is one of them. I'll believe it when I see it -- supposedly our NBC and Fox locals are to be added the same day.

Do you know if this is a nationwide move? I am not at home so can't see if it was moved on our system or not.

FWIW, a field tech reported that there would be 4 national HD stations added to the lineup on March 30, HGTV-HD is one of them. I'll believe it when I see it -- supposedly our NBC and Fox locals are to be adde the same day.

I believe that the FSC change is nationwide. like JeepMatt said its up on channel 76 with no guide info.

As for the HD additions, I can only hope it happens. But VZ sent out a mailer about 3-4 weeks ago notifying subs about the FSC channel change, most likely they would have sent something out regarding the HD additions at least a couple weeks ago I would think.

I believe that the FSC change is nationwide. like JeepMatt said its up on channel 76 with no guide info.

As for the HD additions, I can only hope it happens. But VZ sent out a mailer about 3-4 weeks ago notifying subs about the FSC channel change, most likely they would have sent something out regarding the HD additions at least a couple weeks ago I would think.

We(or at least I) did not receive the mailer in our market, of course they are still sending me special deal information to signup for FiOS(I've had the service for 2 months now).

I halfway believe it simply because the last date we were given to add the local hds was March 17, I was thinking maybe they push it back to March 30 and give us 6 new HD stations at once in our market. Of course the other thought I had was that the tech was reading the thread here and was getting his info from here.

I set it at 480i and all seems to be well. I was hoping it would be something easy like that.

Hopefully it stays this way. Thanks very much for your help.

-Chris


I had the stuttering problem for 3 or 4 months and tried 4 different DVR's. After setting the override to 480i I have not seen the stuttering again. It's been about 2 weeks since I changed the setting.

Do you know if this is a nationwide move? I am not at home so can't see if it was moved on our system or not.

FWIW, a field tech reported that there would be 4 national HD stations added to the lineup on March 30, HGTV-HD is one of them. I'll believe it when I see it -- supposedly our NBC and Fox locals are to be added the same day.

Kes-
Yeah, the Fox Soccer move was to be nationwide.

Regarding your info on the National HD's, did you just hear this recently?

Kes-
Yeah, the Fox Soccer move was to be nationwide.

Regarding your info on the National HD's, did you just hear this recently?

The field tech told a neighbor this info in the last week....

FWIW, a field tech reported that there would be 4 national HD stations added to the lineup on March 30, HGTV-HD is one of them. I'll believe it when I see it -- supposedly our NBC and Fox locals are to be added the same day.

For the record, has Verizon added any channels at any time without sending out a mailing first? They certainly haven't since I signed up, and the mailings are usually a month in advance as far as I can recall.

For the record, has Verizon added any channels at any time without sending out a mailing first? They certainly haven't since I signed up, and the mailings are usually a month in advance as far as I can recall.

VZ FiOS-TV started service here in Virginia Beach during Christmas week and hasn't changed a thing since then. Not even the channel line-up since we got the new one to begin with. Rumor has it that we will get our local HD's this weekend. I have never got a mailer about any future changes. This may not be good news for the possible channel additions this weekend. Of course, I signed-up for early installation and was never notified for that either. I had to call them to get the service.

Note: The national channel changes notice is outdated and still posted on their internet site. The last change listed was for 6 March. Nothing new has been added. It would be nice if VZ deleted the outdated information and posted the change dates for any new HD channels to be added. I think that is what an internet website is supposed to do. :rolleyes:

Hilltop,
I agree with you on the website being outdated...

As for channel additions, here in DE we had Sportsnet Mid-Atlantic added one Saturday about a month or so ago, never received any type of mailer or notice we'd be getting it. It just showed up.

So, adding channels on the weekend, with no advance notice, isn't impossible. :cool:

VZ FiOS-TV started service here in Virginia Beach during Christmas week and hasn't changed a thing since then. Not even the channel line-up since we got the new one to begin with. Rumor has it that we will get our local HD's this weekend. I have never got a mailer about any future changes. This may not be good news for the possible channel additions this weekend. Of course, I signed-up for early installation and was never notified for that either. I had to call them to get the service.

Note: The national channel changes notice is outdated and still posted on their internet site. The last change listed was for 6 March. Nothing new has been added. It would be nice if VZ deleted the outdated information and posted the change dates for any new HD channels to be added. I think that is what an internet website is supposed to do. :rolleyes:

We did have Comcast Sportsnet Mid-Atlantic added w/o any notice, I believe that is the only change to the service since launching here.

Just got a channel realignment notice for Philly area WUVP (OTA 65, Univision) to move from FiOS 26 to 14, effective 4/30/07. Letter said to keep an eye out for future updates. Curious why a letter now. Maybe broadcast channels have some sort of notification requirement.

For the record, has Verizon added any channels at any time without sending out a mailing first? They certainly haven't since I signed up, and the mailings are usually a month in advance as far as I can recall.
IIRC, they have added several SD channels without any or much advance notice. They sent out notices when or not long before they were added. But these were obscure SD channels; I can't even remember which ones they were.

The reason for the notices is that many local communities have long required the cable companies to provide 30 days notice when removing or moving channels. Verizon certainly made an effort to tell us that they were moving the channels around before they did so. I don't see why they can't add new channels in unused channel slots without much or any advance notice, but there may be (obsolete) local franchise rules in some areas on that as well.

There are no unused channel slots. The data streams are assigned virtual channel numbers and they can make them whatever they want to. Moving a channel from one number to another does not open a slot.

There are no unused channel slots. The data streams are assigned virtual channel numbers and they can make them whatever they want to. Moving a channel from one number to another does not open a slot.
Ok, I will rephrase it to be an unused channel assignment. The 30 day advance notice rule goes back to analog cable where moving a channel meant changing the channel frequency. With digital QAM, of course, the advance notice applies to changing the displayed channel number.

I sure hope Verizon has a bunch of unused QAM channels if they are going to have the bandwidth to add all the HD channels that will start up this fall.

FiOS can add many new HD channels right now, they have plenty of capacity to do so. That is why the delay in adding Food, HGTV, A&E and VSGLF is so perplexing. I can see why INHD is not added yet though.

FiOS can add many new HD channels right now, they have plenty of capacity to do so. That is why the delay in adding Food, HGTV, A&E and VSGLF is so perplexing. I can see why INHD is not added yet though.

I completely agree! Exactly what are the long delays?

I have a couple of questions I have not been able to figure out reading the Verizon website or AVS.

1. Does FIOS provide unencrypted local channels that can be tuned with a QAM capable TV or PC card?

2. It appears that Verizon offer 2 DVRs. A "regular"' DVR that also does HD but is not multiroom and a more expensive multiroom DVR that does not do HD. Is this correct? There is not non-HD DVR, correct?

3. Does either DVR have an RF output on channle 3 or 4 that can be routed to another TV?

4. If you subscribe to the movie package do you also get Showtime and Starz HD at no extra cost?

Thanks for any help. I am in No. VA area and expect they will have my house wired pretty soon--they have already layed the cables/conduit along the street.

FIOS To Launch Local Channel

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/26/2007 5:37:00 PM

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6427977.html?display=Breaking+News

Verizon's FiOS has been taking on the cable industry with its multichannel video service, and now it is looking to add a local news channel.
The telephone company plans to unveil "a new breed of TV channel" FiOS1, on March 29. The channel will serve the Washington metro area. It is billing the the move as the first "Verizon-owned-and-operated TV channel in the country"--and likely not the last.

Delivered by fiber optic cable to the home as part of the FiOS service, the 24/7 channel will carry local news, traffic, weather, and sports. The programming will include some games from area college hoop teams like Final Four-bound Georgetown and last year's Final Four team, George Mason.
It will also feature programming from "citizen video journalists."

I have a couple of questions I have not been able to figure out reading the Verizon website or AVS.

1. Does FIOS provide unencrypted local channels that can be tuned with a QAM capable TV or PC card?
Can't give you a definite answer on that one, but I believe I remember seeing posted here that as of now every channel is encryped so that it cannot be viewed by a QAM capable card.



2. It appears that Verizon offer 2 DVRs. A "regular"' DVR that also does HD but is not multiroom and a more expensive multiroom DVR that does not do HD. Is this correct? There is not non-HD DVR, correct?

It's actually the same box, they just send a signal to the box to turn on a flag to make it multi-room capable, you can only view recordings from the multi-room onto sets hooked up to SD set top boxes. It's rumored this will change in the later part of this year so that the HD Set top boxes can view it as well.


3. Does either DVR have an RF output on channle 3 or 4 that can be routed to another TV?

Yes. You would not be able to view HD content this way though on the tv connected via RF.

4. If you subscribe to the movie package do you also get Showtime and Starz HD at no extra cost?

Yep, as well as all the Showtime and Starz OnDemand content.


Thanks for any help. I am in No. VA area and expect they will have my house wired pretty soon--they have already layed the cables/conduit along the street.

FIOS To Launch Local Channel

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/26/2007 5:37:00 PM

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6427977.html?display=Breaking+News

Verizon's FiOS has been taking on the cable industry with its multichannel video service, and now it is looking to add a local news channel.
The telephone company plans to unveil "a new breed of TV channel" FiOS1, on March 29. The channel will serve the Washington metro area. It is billing the the move as the first "Verizon-owned-and-operated TV channel in the country"--and likely not the last.

Delivered by fiber optic cable to the home as part of the FiOS service, the 24/7 channel will carry local news, traffic, weather, and sports. The programming will include some games from area college hoop teams like Final Four-bound Georgetown and last year's Final Four team, George Mason.
It will also feature programming from "citizen video journalists."

hmm. I wonder what unveil means? Make an announcement, or add it to the lineup?

Either way it seems like a waste of bandwidth :confused:

I have a couple of questions I have not been able to figure out reading the Verizon website or AVS.

1. Does FIOS provide unencrypted local channels that can be tuned with a QAM capable TV or PC card?

...SNIP...

Actually, at least in MA, the HD locals and HD Plus channels are tuneable by a QAM capable system.

The SD locals are also tuneable by a QAM capable system, but they do not report valid their station ids properly. (Could it be that these are actually derived from the analog rather than the digital broadcast?)

The HD nationals and almost all other SD channels above 50 are encrypted. The channels below 50 are true analog NTSC. There are some exceptions but nothing of note.

1. Does FIOS provide unencrypted local channels that can be tuned with a QAM capable TV or PC card?.
Yes. The local HD and SD channels are not encrypted. The local HD digital stations and the digital sub-channels also have the PSIP information passed through so the channels are remapped to the local broadcast channel #s. With a Samsung DTB-H260F receiver, the local DC channels showed up as 4-1, 4-2, 5-1, 7-1, 7-2, and so on. The SD only stations including stuff like the SD version of the locals, Univision, MHz, and the local government channels (which are presumably analog source) did not get remapped and showed up at QAM channels 65, 67, 68, 73 and several others.

However, I did not get the channel remapping for the HD locals with the older Samsung SIR-T451 receiver. The HD channels were buried in the QAM channel numbers.

Of course, almost all the national SD and HD channels are scrambled.

4. If you subscribe to the movie package do you also get Showtime and Starz HD at no extra cost?.
You get Showtime-HD, Starz-HD, and TMC-HD with the movie package.

FIOS To Launch Local ChannelVerizon's FiOS has been taking on the cable industry with its multichannel video service, and now it is looking to add a local news channel.
The telephone company plans to unveil "a new breed of TV channel" FiOS1, on March 29. The channel will serve the Washington metro area. It is billing the the move as the first "Verizon-owned-and-operated TV channel in the country"--and likely not the last...Anyone taking bets on the following scenario?
Step 1, add the channel as a "local". Step 2, update the STB firmware to default to the FiOS1 channel at power-up. Step 3, claim great ratings because so many people are watching it (include the STB power-up as a "viewer").

It was worth the switch from ComCast to Verizon just so I didn't have change the channel at power-up (Comcast defaults to CN8). It's deja vu all over again. I am not happy. :mad:

Geekgirl, why not get mad when it actually happens? Life is too complicated as is without getting worked up over this.

JWhip - You are correct, there are many more important things to get angry over. I was flagging what appears to be the next step of corporate growth for Verizon- expansion from content carrier to content source. It's what ComCast did with CN8, so I guess this was not unexpected.

So the channels below 50 are analog and can be tuned with a NTSC TV. But if you use a Verizon box or DVR, are these channels "digital quality" like you get with directtv?

So the channels below 50 are analog and can be tuned with a NTSC TV. But if you use a Verizon box or DVR, are these channels "digital quality" like you get with directtv?
Yes. The analog channels in the 2 to 49 range are digitally simulcast and are sent unscrambled.

Hi fellows. FIOS TV is now available in our area. Today I called the Verizon customer service and have been quoted the following rates:

1. Premium Service 42.99
2. Movie /Sports package 15.99
3. HD-DVR 12.95
4. Digital Service for two bedroom TV’s with CableCard 9.99x2= 19.98
Total $ 86.91 less 4.95 with one year commitment on the movie package.

What I would like to ask you veterans is this:

Is the above quote in line with what you have been paying? I have the feeling that digital service of $ 9.99 for each additional TV is excessive (compared to TimeWarner Cable.) I will very much appreciate your inputs before I make the switch. FredB

I agree on $9.99 being excessive.. $13 for DVR..

Hi fellows. FIOS TV is now available in our area. Today I called the Verizon customer service and have been quoted the following rates:

1. Premium Service 42.99
2. Movie /Sports package 15.99
3. HD-DVR 12.95
4. Digital Service for two bedroom TV’s with CableCard 9.99x2= 19.98
Total $ 86.91 less 4.95 with one year commitment on the movie package.

What I would like to ask you veterans is this:

Is the above quote in line with what you have been paying? I have the feeling that digital service of $ 9.99 for each additional TV is excessive (compared to TimeWarner Cable.) I will very much appreciate your inputs before I make the switch. FredB

Everything looks right except CableCards. They should be cheap like $3 or $4 a month iirc. The $9.99 is the price of a regular (non DVR) HD box.

Hi fellows. FIOS TV is now available in our area. Today I called the Verizon customer service and have been quoted the following rates:

1. Premium Service 42.99
2. Movie /Sports package 15.99
3. HD-DVR 12.95
4. Digital Service for two bedroom TV’s with CableCard 9.99x2= 19.98
Total $ 86.91 less 4.95 with one year commitment on the movie package.

What I would like to ask you veterans is this:

Is the above quote in line with what you have been paying? I have the feeling that digital service of $ 9.99 for each additional TV is excessive (compared to TimeWarner Cable.) I will very much appreciate your inputs before I make the switch. FredB

$9.99 is supposed to be for the HD STB, I think Cablecards are $5.99.

When I first investigated prices I thought it seemed Fios was rather high, but with Internet, Phone, and TV through Verizon I am essentially paying Verizon the same as Cox, but have an extra HD box, an extra SD Box, and 3x faster internet. Not to mention better PQ and more channels.

Thank you all for your inputs.

Hi fellows. FIOS TV is now available in our area. Today I called the Verizon customer service and have been quoted the following rates:

1. Premium Service 42.99
2. Movie /Sports package 15.99
3. HD-DVR 12.95
4. Digital Service for two bedroom TV’s with CableCard 9.99x2= 19.98
Total $ 86.91 less 4.95 with one year commitment on the movie package.

What I would like to ask you veterans is this:

Is the above quote in line with what you have been paying? I have the feeling that digital service of $ 9.99 for each additional TV is excessive
The prices for the "premium" service, Movies/Sports package, and HD-DVR are posted on the website and what we are paying (before any $5 type monthly introduction discounts). The price for the cablecards is not on the standard price sheet, but the $10 sounds very high; I have seen $3 or $4/month quoted here.

I do think the $10/month fee for the HD STB is excessive. I understand charging more for the HD-DVR as it costs more, has higher upfront software development and on-going maintenance cost in terms of phone support and service calls. However the HD STB can't cost that much more than the SD STB these days. I would be surprised if the HD STB cost more than $75 to $100 in quantity, if even close to that much. With more people getting HD TVs, $10 for a HD STB gets expensive for someone with 2 or 3 HD TVs. May be enough to stop some people from switching to Fios. They should charge the same for the SD and HD STB - $5/month.

My motivation for a lower cost for the HD STB is that I might get a Series 3 Tivo. With the Tivo, I would need 1 or 2 cablecards (hopefully 1 when the cable cards which support 2 tuners come out) but would lose VOD and PPV. To keep that capability and have a backup to the cablecards, I might want a HD STB. At $10/month combined with the maybe $5/month for one cable card and Tivo monthly fees, it adds up. A $5/month charge for the HD STB would keep the monthly costs of having a Series 3 Tivo more reasonable.

The prices for the "premium" service, Movies/Sports package, and HD-DVR are posted on the website and what we are paying (before any $5 type monthly introduction discounts). The price for the cablecards is not on the standard price sheet, but the $10 sounds very high; I have seen $3 or $4/month quoted here.

I do think the $10/month fee for the HD STB is excessive. I understand charging more for the HD-DVR as it costs more, has higher upfront software development and on-going maintenance cost in terms of phone support and service calls. However the HD STB can't cost that much more than the SD STB these days. I would be surprised if the HD STB cost more than $75 to $100 in quantity, if even close to that much. With more people getting HD TVs, $10 for a HD STB gets expensive for someone with 2 or 3 HD TVs. May be enough to stop some people from switching to Fios. They should charge the same for the SD and HD STB - $5/month.

My motivation for a lower cost for the HD STB is that I might get a Series 3 Tivo. With the Tivo, I would need 1 or 2 cablecards (hopefully 1 when the cable cards which support 2 tuners come out) but would lose VOD and PPV. To keep that capability and have a backup to the cablecards, I might want a HD STB. At $10/month combined with the maybe $5/month for one cable card and Tivo monthly fees, it adds up. A $5/month charge for the HD STB would keep the monthly costs of having a Series 3 Tivo more reasonable.

I think the problem with the HD STB is that it is is actually the same hardware as the DVR, just doesn't have the DVR function turned on, at least that is how it was explained to me during instal. So, Verizon pays the same cost for the HD STB as the DVR.

CableCards are $3.

There is only one DVR. The multi-room capability is just an add-on service.

Based on your inputs, I called Verizon again and they confirmed the mistake in the initial quote and offered 2 CableCards @ $ 2.99 each. I've just placed my order.

So, after 23 years of association with Time Warner Cable at the same location it is time to move on. Hope Verizon's entry to our market will make TWC more competitive in the future (cost, service as well as HD offerings.)

Again, thank you all.

FredB

I think the problem with the HD STB is that it is is actually the same hardware as the DVR, just doesn't have the DVR function turned on, at least that is how it was explained to me during instal. So, Verizon pays the same cost for the HD STB as the DVR.
You are right. Because I have only the Motorola DVR, I thought they had a different unit for the HD STB. A true STB with no hard drive. The Fios web page shows the Motorola DVR picture for the HD STB and DVR options. My mistake.

With only a $3 difference between the "STB" and the DVR, I would think most people would go ahead and get the DVR service anyway. I wonder if Verizon has any plans to introduce a lower cost HD real STB with no HD or recording capability for those who do not want a HD-DVR for the 2nd and 3rd TVs? Is this something they would need anyway to add HD capability to the multi-room DVR system?

With only a $3 difference between the "STB" and the DVR, I would think most people would go ahead and get the DVR service anyway. I wonder if Verizon has any plans to introduce a lower cost HD real STB with no HD or recording capability for those who do not want a HD-DVR for the 2nd and 3rd TVs? Is this something they would need anyway to add HD capability to the multi-room DVR system?

Also, if they are going to try and push the MultiRoom DVR service to HD customers, which I have to assume is a high percentage for FiOS (compared to other providers), they will have to have a cheaper solution. The extra cost of the Multi-Room service would be more than the extra $3 per HD box to enable the DVR feature on a couple STBs.

You are right. Because I have only the Motorola DVR, I thought they had a different unit for the HD STB. A true STB with no hard drive. The Fios web page shows the Motorola DVR picture for the HD STB and DVR options. My mistake?Verizon uses (or at least did use) the QIP-6200 for their regular HD-STB. They use the QIP-6416 for their HD-DVR. Yes ... the two look very similar. Identical except the model number from the outside. The 6416 has a hard drive ... and the 6200 doesn't. The other main cost difference is RAM ... the 6416 has more RAM.

6200:
http://broadband.motorola.com/catalog/product_documents/QIP6200%20520477-001-a.pdf

6416:
http://broadband.motorola.com/catalog/product_documents/QIP6416-520408-001-a.pdf

Does Verizon do the emergency broadcast signal tests during primetime in all of its markets? I finally figured out that is why my recordings sometimes get split into two, and also why sometimes I don't get all of a recording. Last night both DVRs failed to record the season finale of What About Brian, I only got the first minute on each of them.

Does Verizon do the emergency broadcast signal tests during primetime in all of its markets?I've only run into it (or what I assume to be it) around midnight to 3am or so.

FWIW, a field tech reported that there would be 4 national HD stations added to the lineup on March 30, HGTV-HD is one of them. I'll believe it when I see it -- supposedly our NBC and Fox locals are to be added the same day.

Kes-
Based on what i've been told and read this week, i'm certainly not holding my breath for this to happen Friday.

I was pretty much told VZ will now NOT COMMENT on any dates whatsoever.

Another Fios question. Is it possible to have two phone lines? Had to give up my Fax #, when I got a cable modem. Still waiting for completion of the system in Palm Desert, Ca.

Another Fios question. Is it possible to have two phone lines? Had to give up my Fax #, when I got a cable modem. Still waiting for completion of the system in Palm Desert, Ca.

I believe the box on the side of my house has hookups for four lines. And they could probably install something else with more.

Does Verizon do the emergency broadcast signal tests during primetime in all of its markets? I finally figured out that is why my recordings sometimes get split into two, and also why sometimes I don't get all of a recording. Last night both DVRs failed to record the season finale of What About Brian, I only got the first minute on each of them.

I asked FIOS tech support about that (finding it quite annoying as well) and was told that the Emergency Broadcast System is solely in control of the signal tests and the cable/video providers have nothing to do with when they are scheduled.

I asked FIOS tech support about that (finding it quite annoying as well) and was told that the Emergency Broadcast System is solely in control of the signal tests and the cable/video providers have nothing to do with when they are scheduled.

Wonder who we can complain to. Last week they did it 2 nights in a row during primetime. With Cox I only ever remember seeing it during the afternoon, seems strange same locality would get it at 2 different times.

Only a couple of days until MLB kicks off. Has anyone heard a peep in regards to NESN-HD??

Another Fios question. Is it possible to have two phone lines? Had to give up my Fax #, when I got a cable modem. Still waiting for completion of the system in Palm Desert, Ca.

Yes, I have two lines w/FiOS. There are no more line filters, so coax to the modem and phone lines to the phone.

You are right. Because I have only the Motorola DVR, I thought they had a different unit for the HD STB. A true STB with no hard drive. The Fios web page shows the Motorola DVR picture for the HD STB and DVR options. My mistake.

With only a $3 difference between the "STB" and the DVR, I would think most people would go ahead and get the DVR service anyway. I wonder if Verizon has any plans to introduce a lower cost HD real STB with no HD or recording capability for those who do not want a HD-DVR for the 2nd and 3rd TVs? Is this something they would need anyway to add HD capability to the multi-room DVR system?

No he is not right. I have the 6200 HD box without dvr and there is no dvr in there, totally different box. I don't record stuff so I don't want a dvr. Just so you know, the stand alone HD box does exist.

Another Fios question. Is it possible to have two phone lines? Had to give up my Fax #, when I got a cable modem. Still waiting for completion of the system in Palm Desert, Ca.
Yes it is possible to have two lines. The 612 ONT has two, the older 611's, and 610's have the capability for 4 lines.

Yes it is possible to have two lines. The 612 ONT has two, the older 611's, and 610's have the capability for 4 lines.

Right I have two lines w/ possibility of two more, also battery back up if power goes down.

For those of you who actually have FiOS tv in the NY/NJ area...

how's the sports broadcasts looking?

mets, rangers, specifically...

are there dedicated ch's for baseball and hockey? any info.

Thanks,

alot of stuff comcast is offering in my area, the FioS didn't even come close to covering the same area of Ch's

For those of you who actually have FiOS tv in the NY/NJ area...

how's the sports broadcasts looking?

mets, rangers, specifically...

are there dedicated ch's for baseball and hockey? any info.

Thanks,

alot of stuff comcast is offering in my area, the FioS didn't even come close to covering the same area of Ch's
Hockey - you wont see any of the NY locals in HD, as a certain VZ competitor owns the teams or the rights to them, and have no obligation legal or otherwise to provide them to direct competitors. The NHL on NBC games look fine.
Baseball - once I see an HD game on YES, SNY or ESPN [coming soon when regular season begins] then I'll comment.

For those of you who actually have FiOS tv in the NY/NJ area...

how's the sports broadcasts looking?

mets, rangers, specifically...

are there dedicated ch's for baseball and hockey? any info.

Thanks,

alot of stuff comcast is offering in my area, the FioS didn't even come close to covering the same area of Ch's

Currently, Fios in Monmouth county carries neither HD Rangers or HD Mets. I wouldn't hold my breath on ever seeing the Rainbow owned FSNY or MSG in HD on Fios.

I've gotten mixed information on SNY-HD, but I'm not counting on that for Opening Day either. If it doesn't show up, I'm back to Comcast where I can get all NY sports teams in HD and MSNBC. I'll just have to negotiate my way out of my annual agreement. Stupidly, I got the annual agreement, thinking that, because they listed SNY-HD on their channel lineup when I ordered, they actually carried the channel.

Only a couple of days until MLB kicks off. Has anyone heard a peep in regards to NESN-HD??


Not even half a peep. It is very irritating. After having watched the Sox on Comcast in HD the past two seasons, it will be a major setback if Verizon doesn't give us NESN-HD. I am very happy with FIOS-TV, but may revert to Comcast if Verizon doesn't step up.

Not even half a peep. It is very irritating. After having watched the Sox on Comcast in HD the past two seasons, it will be a major setback if Verizon doesn't give us NESN-HD. I am very happy with FIOS-TV, but may revert to Comcast if Verizon doesn't step up.

Most recent info from VZ on NESN-HD is:

The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

Carol Baribeau
Regional Director
Public Affairs
413 731-8606

You may want to call the number or email to see if its still the "launch" date.

The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

Carol Baribeau
Regional Director
Public Affairs
413 731-8606

I just spoke with Carol and she stated that her latest information is end of 2nd quarter, which would be June. However when I asked her about her end of March statement she stated that she would have to do some research and call me back. I will hold my breath here but if they come back with 2nd quarter I am going to let my wallet do the talking and go back to Comcast......this is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!

Boy that really sucks for you guys. I have D* and was thinking of FIOS but they just started wiring my town and without NESN HD which I just got through D* I don't think I could wait and make the switch.

Wow-
That is rediculous if they screw over you NESN folks.

IN other news..

VZ's website has a PR today that the local FIOS 1 channel will debut tomorrow (3/30) in the MD and Northern VA areas on Channel 1.

Hmmmm...that debuts on 3/30 - there was the other post that said we'd be getting new HD's tomorrow - hmmmmm...

Let the hoping begin.

Wow-
That is rediculous if they screw over you NESN folks.

IN other news..

VZ's website has a PR today that the local FIOS 1 channel will debut tomorrow (3/30) in the MD and Northern VA areas on Channel 1.

Hmmmm...that debuts on 3/30 - there was the other post that said we'd be getting new HD's tomorrow - hmmmmm...

Let the hoping begin.

Yep, we are supposed to get our local hds(at least NBC and Fox) and I have heard 4 additional National HD stations......

Currently, Fios in Monmouth county carries neither HD Rangers or HD Mets. I wouldn't hold my breath on ever seeing the Rainbow owned FSNY or MSG in HD on Fios.

I've gotten mixed information on SNY-HD, but I'm not counting on that for Opening Day either. If it doesn't show up, I'm back to Comcast where I can get all NY sports teams in HD and MSNBC. I'll just have to negotiate my way out of my annual agreement. Stupidly, I got the annual agreement, thinking that, because they listed SNY-HD on their channel lineup when I ordered, they actually carried the channel.

Ok. So this is a total new one on me. Just spoke to an Encore Rep and he says that they're only carrying the SNY HD games, not Sportsnite or anything else...

...umm... ...ok...

So that when the Mets broadcast a game in HD, it will be available on channel 829 in Northern NJ. I don't know. That just doesn't sound right to me, but I guess they've got until the first home game carried by SNY to be proven wrong.

Boy that really sucks for you guys. I have D* and was thinking of FIOS but they just started wiring my town and without NESN HD which I just got through D* I don't think I could wait and make the switch.

We are due to get FIOS-TV here between April and June and I have been anxiously waiting so I can change from Cox. Not having NESN in HD with Verizon will be a deal breaker.

I can't believe that Verizon has not made a deal knowing how big the Red Sox are in this area.

The kicker is that the NESN game ticker is sponsored by Verizon.......very aggravating!

You would think that they have had all winter to get this done and that they know this is a very important channel for them to have that it would be done by now. I don't know how Corporate America survives sometimes.

A little more info on their new channel:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6428928.html?display=Breaking+News

Verizon Local Channel Bows in D.C.

By Todd Spangler 3/29/2007 11:25:00

Verizon Communications will go live Friday with its first owned-and-operated channel, FiOS1, which will provide local weather, traffic, news, sports and community programming in the Washington, D.C., metro area.

FiOS1 is on channel 1 in the telco’s TV lineup, available to subscribers in northern Virginia and parts of Maryland.

Why was D.C. first? “Where else would you launch your first local channel?” Verizon spokeswoman Sharon Cohen-Hager said. “It’s a huge media market, and we were able to bring the programming together. Of all the markets we’re in, D.C. made a lot of sense.”

Cohen-Hager said Verizon expects to launch one or two similar channels in other markets this year, but she declined to identify them.

The D.C. channel, headed by former ABC news producer Michelle Webb, will provide “Traffic on the 1s” and "Weather on the 5s.” News content will be provided by WUSA9, the Gannett-owned local CBS affiliate.

Verizon’s first original local programming for FiOS1 is a show called Push-Pause, produced in collaboration with HyperLocal News Productions, which features segments by “trained citizen-video journalists.”

The channel also will feature 20 hours of sports programming per week, including some Georgetown University, George Mason University and high-school games. FiOS1 plans to develop a northern-Virginia high-school sports highlights show, Game Day TV, a 30-minute preview of the upcoming games and a wrap-up of the week's past ones.

Another FiOS1 program, Limbo Local, will let viewers bid on consumer electronics via their mobile phones, with the lowest unique bid at the close of the auction winning the prize. FiOS1 subscribers will also be able to play online, and Verizon Wireless will offer its own version of the game to V CAST subscribers. Prizes will include a 40-inch LCD HDTV and a Blu-ray progressive DVD player.

Just a possible heads up for anyone in Braintree, MA. My neighbor was getting FIOS Internet installed and since I am thinking of doing the same also, I went out and spoke to the installer. I mentioned I was really excited about the TV package but since the town has not approved a license yet, I was kind of holding off. He mentioned that TV service would be available in October.

Of course I take that with a grain of salt, what with the whole NESN-HD run around that Verizon is giving those in New England...but it's a tentative target date.

[QUOTE=Purdue79]The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

I just had a lengthy discussion with Verizon. The local reps got a memo today, telling them to inform customers inquiring about NESN HD that it will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".

[QUOTE=Purdue79]The original launch date was March 30th , we have encountered some
technical difficulties and will launch Mid April

I just had a lengthy discussion with Verizon. The local reps got a memo today, telling them to inform customers inquiring about NESN HD that it will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".


I hope this works out for you guys after having it I can't imagine going back to SD version again

Good Luck

Wow, that sounds like the memo they got last fall that told the reps we'd be getting A&E HD, Food HD, and HGTV-HD by the end of December 2006!!!!!

(Okay, for your guys sake I hope not).

[QUOTE]I just had a lengthy discussion with Verizon. The local reps got a memo today, telling them to inform customers inquiring about NESN HD that it will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".

I hope they are correct....still waiting to hear back from Barbara..............

Big article in the local paper here today about the MLB telecasts on cable problem. Seems it is really a national problem and not just VZ. Cable has until the day before Opening Day to meet MLB's demands. The satellites are not affected by this possible future cable agreement.

IN other news..

VZ's website has a PR today that the local FIOS 1 channel will debut tomorrow (3/30) in the MD and Northern VA areas on Channel 1.

Hmmmm...that debuts on 3/30 - there was the other post that said we'd be getting new HD's tomorrow - hmmmmm...

Let the hoping begin.BTW ...

http://www.udigtv.com which gets their guide data from FYI Television, Inc. which is apparantly where Verizon gets their guide data from already lists Fios1 in their guide (for the DC area ... for example 20170). No new HD channels listed.

Just an observation.

BTW ...

http://www.udigtv.com which gets their guide data from FYI Television, Inc. which is apparantly where Verizon gets their guide data from already lists Fios1 in their guide (for the DC area ... for example 20170). No new HD channels listed.

Just an observation.

Just FYI, if I put in my zip code they don't even show FiOS as an option, so who knows how accurate it really is....

Just FYI, if I put in my zip code they don't even show FiOS as an option, so who knows how accurate it really is....As far as matching up zip codes ... who knows. Heck, even for 'accuracy' ... who knows.

However, for guide data ... the udigtv listings pretty much always exactly matches what I get from Verizon's guide. I couldn't figure out where Verizon was getting their guide data from since it didn't match the usual suspects (Tribune via Zap2it or tv.yahoo.com or wherever ... or Gemstar via tvguide.com). Apparantly they aren't the only ones ... FYI Television is also a guide data provider and udigtv.com is the only (on-line) place I've found for their listings.

Anyway, if you do find a zip that works ... you'll find the data matches exactly. They even had all the 'alert' channels and notices in there when Verizon changed the channel line-up around here.

So what's the word? Will FiOS subs see any new HD tomorrow (as rumoured) or not?

If I had to bet on it - i'd say absolutely not.

So what's the word? Will FiOS subs see any new HD tomorrow (as rumoured) or not?
Perhaps we will be pleasantly surprised and they will be added. However, given all the confusion as to when any HD channels will be added, I'm a bit pessimistic. When they add channels, when do they do this? At 3 or 4 AM local time or have they done a download and reset in the middle of the day?

Perhaps we will be pleasantly surprised and they will be added. However, given all the confusion as to when any HD channels will be added, I'm a bit pessimistic. When they add channels, when do they do this? At 3 or 4 AM local time or have they done a download and reset in the middle of the day?

Not sure what the rules are under the statewide franchise law in NJ, but in the past, the cable companies always had to publicly announce any planned new channels before going live with them. This usually meant a full-pager in the Star Ledger, Asbury Park Press and other NJ papers.

I haven't heard about anything like that for VZ leading up to tomorrow.

If I had to bet on it - i'd say absolutely not.+1

Heck, adding anything on a Friday surprises me.

As far as matching up zip codes ... who knows. Heck, even for 'accuracy' ... who knows.

However, for guide data ... the udigtv listings pretty much always exactly matches what I get from Verizon's guide. I couldn't figure out where Verizon was getting their guide data from since it didn't match the usual suspects (Tribune via Zap2it or tv.yahoo.com or wherever ... or Gemstar via tvguide.com). Apparantly they aren't the only ones ... FYI Television is also a guide data provider and udigtv.com is the only (on-line) place I've found for their listings.

Anyway, if you do find a zip that works ... you'll find the data matches exactly. They even had all the 'alert' channels and notices in there when Verizon changed the channel line-up around here.

The phone # and zip codes are input into an off-shore (and outsourced) database company. I filled out Verizon's stupid "notify me when FIOS comes to my area" like a year before it came. I see a FIOS truck at my neighbor and mosey over and sure enough, they're installing it.

I go online, no email. I input my phone #. It says its not available. I call the special # and the guy tells me that Verizon outsources that to India somewhere and they're always "months" behind in the database uploads.

I can either sign up over the phone and NOT get the special deal of $29.99/month for 10 Mbps down, or I can try to input my exact street address (apparently THAT part of the database is not outsourced???) and it shows up so I can sign up.

It's been 6 months later and they STILL report it's not available via phone #.

Ha!

Of course, now I gotta wait for TV service (which apparently in "non" Long Island parts of New York means "never"). I guess they're waiting for the state or national franchise and aren't going to negotiate anymore with any local franchises. So here I sit paying ever-increasing prices to Time Warner. Sigh.

I really want FiOS cause of the internet.... but we all know how that works, cancel comcast internet they will jack up the damn TV price.


I mean i don't understand... we freggin live in NY... why not have the appropriate channels per state. everyone owns the rights and they don't wanna do crap with them..

if you own the rights to the "NHL" then freggin charge Verizon to use them so they can provide the appropriate customers with the teams in there area... this just gets me so aggrevated.


Guess I will not get FioS if there is no Dedicated MSG and SNY. yanks get there YES-HD and the teams i so happen to like get nothing............. i even have VS-HD for comcast and get most of the devils games... it's completely ridiculous.


think if someone starts like a petition type of a thing we can get something going??

just an idea.

LETS GO METS BABY!! lol

big game for the blue shirts this week!

i'll be on here during the game posting look for me in one of the threads... not sure which section would be appropriate but im sure i'll find something.

Later,

Rob.

You won't see MSG/FSNY-HD. Verizon had to threaten government involvement just to get FSNY and MSG in SD. Cablevision owns the feeds and they won't give them to companies they compete with. It is their competitive edge. The SNY situation is confusing though.

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I just had a lengthy discussion with Verizon. The local reps got a memo today, telling them to inform customers inquiring about NESN HD that it will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".[/QUOTE]

They beat their promise by two days. NESN HD arrived for us Sox fans today on channel 829. Thanks Verizon.

They beat their promise by two days. NESN HD arrived for us Sox fans today on channel 829. Thanks Verizon.

Wow Really. Maybe there is hope that verizon has a clue.

Yep,
Apparently folks in NJ got SNY-HD today, and folks in MA did get their NESN-HD.

So, as I stated on DSLReports, I guess VZ didn't lie to everyone, just me and any others that asked about National HD's.

Thanks VZ.

[
I just had a lengthy discussion with Verizon. The local reps got a memo today, telling them to inform customers inquiring about NESN HD that it will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".

They beat their promise by two days. NESN HD arrived for us Sox fans today on channel 829. Thanks Verizon.[/QUOTE]

Congrats This is great news for you FIOS guys

Yep,
Apparently folks in NJ got SNY-HD today, and folks in MA did get their NESN-HD.

So, as I stated on DSLReports, I guess VZ didn't lie to everyone, just me and any others that asked about National HD's.

Thanks VZ.


No SNY-HD here so far today.

Houston we have lift off!!!! NESN HD IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and no, I never heard back from Barbara.............

[QUOTE=Purdue79]NESN HD ... will be available in April. They are shooting for early April but are asking the reps to say, "April".

Ah, yes. the first word in APRIL FOOL

Houston we have lift off!!!! NESN HD IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and no, I never heard back from Barbara.............

Must be nice, another promised date and another empty delivery on the HD locals here.

No worries Kes.

I'll be constructing a real nice email over the weekend to the FIOS TV execs on how I feel about lies.

The Fios1 local news channel has been added to channel 1 in the Washington Metro region. So we have one new channel here. The press release is at http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2007/fios1-verizons-first-local.html for those who missed the story.

But no new national HD channels yet nor I gather no new local HD stations down in Virginia Beach. There is not much time left for Verizon to add before the end of the 1st quarter. The odds of them making that deadline are not good...

A little more info on their new channel:


Verizon Communications will go live Friday with its first owned-and-operated channel, FiOS1, which will provide local weather, traffic, news, sports and community programming in the Washington, D.C., metro area.

FiOS1 is on channel 1 in the telco’s TV lineup, available to subscribers in northern Virginia and parts of Maryland.

[/COLOR]

It is interesting (or perhaps not) to note that Channel 1 will also be the second MASN Channel (our Regional Sports Channel). MASN Carries both Oriles and National games (none in HD) so when they play on the same nights they need to channels. I guess FiOS decided to fill the rest of the time w/ their on content.

wow they actually did it, we got nesn, Well I guess I can stop preparing my notes for my furious opening day phone call, lol.

wow they actually did it, we got nesn, Well I guess I can stop preparing my notes for my furious opening day phone call, lol.

Good times are here indeed. If only everyone could ditch directv for fios, the best all around hd provider there is.

No worries Kes.

I'll be constructing a real nice email over the weekend to the FIOS TV execs on how I feel about lies.

Well, apparently the email to me was intended for somebody in Mass. in regards to NESN-HD being added. I have been told now that our locals will be added April 6, and I have the email address of the VA franchise manager.

Well, apparently the email to me was intended for somebody in Mass. in regards to NESN-HD being added. I have been told now that our locals will be added April 6, and I have the email address of the VA franchise manager.
Bummer! :mad: :(

Well, apparently the email to me was intended for somebody in Mass. in regards to NESN-HD being added. I have been told now that our locals will be added April 6, and I have the email address of the VA franchise manager.

Kes-
I hate to even say it, but I wonder if he/she would have any clue about National HD's. I guess our "field tech" was just spewing more rumor info.

I did send an email yesterday to a few FIOS VP's who I was able to get email addresses for regarding my extreme displeasure. Knowing VZ, I probably won't even get a reply.

It's now been over 6 months since a new HD channel (non Regional sports) has been added. Pretty pathetic in this day and age with Comcast and U-Verse adding HD's like candy.

Comcast is adding HDs that Verizon already has and has had for several months. The only potential HD Comcast owners could have that you don't is VS/GLF.

Hell, Comcast in the DC area doesn't even get CSN-MA HD.

I checked to see if Fios is available in my town...its not. I put my email down to let me know. But, I am curious if anyone knows what their rollout plan is? I live in Ocean twp.,NJ.

Thanks!

There is a good Verizion FIOS chat section over at DSLReports.com that has a map of current spottings of FIOS installs:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber

Topics merged.

Topics merged.

Ken, what does "Topics merged" mean? Which topics were merged? Thanks.

Ken, what does "Topics merged" mean? Which topics were merged? Thanks.

Zipbags post above was originally a new thread. Ken H moved his new thread into this one.

See how the post has a title, that was the name of the original thread he made.

Well Blow me Down!!! Verizon was true to there word and We just got NESN HD!!!! WOW. Red Sox here we go!!!

Well Blow me Down!!! Verizon was true to there word and We just got NESN HD!!!! WOW. Red Sox here we go!!!

And still no SNY HD for NJ.

Well Blow me Down!!! Verizon was true to there word and We just got NESN HD!!!! WOW. Red Sox here we go!!!

Yeah? Well, WE just got FiOS-1 in Northern Virginia :cool: ....hey wait a minute, FiOS-1 sucks... :rolleyes:

Still no CSN-MA HD and still no new HD nationals :mad:

Yeah? Well, WE just got FiOS-1 in Northern Virginia :cool: ....hey wait a minute, FiOS-1 sucks... :rolleyes:

Still no CSN-MA HD and still no new HD nationals :mad:

Its hard to say a channels sucks when they still have not shown a minute of real programming.

So far its been a constant promo loop for FiOS1 all day and Paid Programming all night (which is probably the real reason for the channel).

Yeah? Well, WE just got FiOS-1 in Northern Virginia :cool: ....hey wait a minute, FiOS-1 sucks... :rolleyes:

Still no CSN-MA HD and still no new HD nationals :mad:

At least you have your local HDs.

At least you have your local HDs.

I guess I'm lucky here in L.A. I get all the local HD, including 2 PBS channels, though sadly the pbs channels simulcast. I also get the nbc weather plus and the wb's music channel, fwiw.

I am a bit disappointed that now, as we begin the 2nd quarter, there still are no new national HDs. I thought we'd have them by now.

I guess I'm lucky here in L.A. I get all the local HD, including 2 PBS channels, though sadly the pbs channels simulcast. I also get the nbc weather plus and the wb's music channel, fwiw.

We have 1 PBS station and CBS. Verizon has had agreements with the parent companies of our ABC and CW stations since before launching service, and signed an agreement with the owner of the NBC and Fox stations here in early January.

My theory is that at the time Cox also only had PBS and CBS, so Verizon did not see great importance in adding the others, since this time Cox has added NBC, Fox, and ABC(all within a couple days of signing an agreement). Now Verizon faces an uphill battle because they have been dragging their feet. I've been given dates of March 17 and March 30 for NBC/Fox and now have a date of April 6. I will only believe it when I turn on the DVR and see them listed.

I am a bit disappointed that now, as we begin the 2nd quarter, there still are no new national HDs. I thought we'd have them by now.

Welcome to the club of disappointed FIOS subscribers. It's been a year since they added new national HD channels or HD VOD.

Well Blow me Down!!! Verizon was true to there word and We just got NESN HD!!!! WOW. Red Sox here we go!!!

Yea, I was pleasantly shocked to see NESN-HD up on FIOS last night. After all the conflicting information and speculation about when this would launch I'm pleased that Verizon managed to get it done in time for Opening Day.

Caught a late broadcast of SportsDesk - looked nice.

Great news to hear that NESN HD has gotten added to the FiOS channel lineup. Does anyone know if Verizon will be offering the MLS Direct Kick package or is this exclusive to InDemand, DirecTV and DISH?

Direct Kick is another package offered by In Demand (along with NBA league Pass, NHL Center Ice, etc.)

Right now, there is no agreement b/t VZ and InDemand, nor have I even heard rumors of discussions. (Also another reason INHD is not offered in the Channel lineup)

Right now, I wouldn't expect anything. So far it seems the only package VZ's been able to secure was ESPN's Full Court.

Official release:


Red Sox and Bruins Fans to Get NESN HD on FiOS TV

Verizon Adds NESN HD on Channel 829 to Growing Channel Lineup

April 2, 2007

Media Contact:
Phil Santoro, 617-743-4760




BOSTON - Red Sox and Bruins fans rejoice; NESN HD is coming to FiOS TV!

Verizon's revolutionary FiOS TV service has added NESN HD on Channel 829, at no additional charge, to FiOS TV's growing lineup of high-definition channels.

"We are delighted to be able to bring NESN's coverage of the Red Sox and Bruins in high definition to fans in the Boston market," said Bob Driscoll, Verizon vice president of sales and marketing in New England. "And as more viewers embrace high-definition TV, they, too, can watch the Sox and Bruins in stunningly brilliant high definition on our fiber-optic network. It's another way we're making FiOS TV an even greater value for our customers."

NESN delivers every regular season Red Sox and Bruins game in HD and produces all studio programs in HD, including the network's popular pre- and post-game shows and NESN SportsDesk, a daily sports news and highlights program. This year, NESN has also introduced 5.1 surround sound technology for all Red Sox and Bruins home games

FiOS TV is the company's new fiber-optic television service, which offers a high-quality digital picture, numerous high-definition and on-demand programs, and reliable service at competitive prices. The service is delivered over the nation's largest advanced all-digital, fiber-optic network straight to customers' homes.

Verizon currently offers FiOS TV to more than 270,000 households in 40 Massachusetts communities.

Verizon FiOS TV provides a broad array of all-digital programming, 24 high-definition channels, up to 8,600 on-demand titles and FiOS TV Widgets, which supplies one-touch, on-demand access to real-time local weather and traffic.

With the confirmed addition of NESN-HD, I ordered my FIOS-TV this morning. I have an install next week and am starting to feel a little bit of buyers remorse. I hope I have made the right decision. Time will tell. It will be nice to get more channels and higher internet bandwidth for $25 less per month. As a big user of my DVR I hope the other horror stories of missed recordings and freeze ups have been fixed.

With the confirmed addition of NESN-HD, I ordered my FIOS-TV this morning. I have an install next week and am starting to feel a little bit of buyers remorse. I hope I have made the right decision. Time will tell. It will be nice to get more channels and higher internet bandwidth for $25 less per month. As a big user of my DVR I hope the other horror stories of missed recordings and freeze ups have been fixed.

I've had Fios for about 9 months now and love it. I had a few glitches with the DVR, but nothing serious. I get far more channels and features like DVR for less money than I did with my local cable system. Even if they don't add more HD channels, Fios still has more HD channels than my local cable system. I won't go with satellite TV because all of my friends who have it say they lose the picture in high winds or any rain. (I've been at their homes for big sporting events when this happens - it's insane)

Fios internet service is VERY good. I love it.

Arnold, I agree with you 100%. But it would still be nice to have a few more naitonal HDs added. Once D* adds their additional HD channels (even though it's a good bet it will be at a much lower quality than FIOS), I would think FIOS will feel the pressure.

As a recent FIOS TV subscriber (and former DTV subscriber), I was actually amazed at the SD quality of the NESN game tonight. The PQ on FIOS is far superior to that of DirecTV for standard def. I found myself wondering if channel 510 was actually HD or not. Then I read the press release about channel 829. Missed the game, but checked it out after. For some reason, the Series 3 Tivo hasn't received the channel update yet. Can't wait to watch my first game in HD on FIOS!

-Brian in Marlborough

Listed on the NESN HD main page

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/aboutus/hd/

With the confirmed addition of NESN-HD, I ordered my FIOS-TV this morning. I have an install next week and am starting to feel a little bit of buyers remorse. I hope I have made the right decision. Time will tell. It will be nice to get more channels and higher internet bandwidth for $25 less per month. As a big user of my DVR I hope the other horror stories of missed recordings and freeze ups have been fixed.

The VZ company reps I have talked to about the DVR problems have all told me that the problems will not be fixed until the major software change is issued sometime later this year.

Now that NESN-HD is here I am very happy.....a lot of HD to choose from and the picture quality is outstanding......I can't wait for the widget upgrades....

I wish Verizon gave a crap about us here in NH! They're pulling out of NH/ME/VT and I have no idea whats going to happen to my FiOS internet when Fairpoint takes over....they're HORRIBLE and extremely outdated...I want my FiOS TV!!!!

For some reason, the Series 3 Tivo hasn't received the channel update yet.You may have to report it to Tivo yourself:

http://customersupport.tivo.com/LineUpForm.aspx

And even then, it can take a long time and a lot of hassle to get resolved. It's funny; sometimes they're right on top of a change (like the Fox Soccer Channel move to 76), sometimes not (they still don't have Fios 1 listed in my area).

Has anyone found the best zipcode to display programming guides from the Internet. I use Excite.com TV listing and you have to enter the zipcode to find listings. Verizon FIOS is not listed yet and I was wondering if any zipcodes in California work yet?

Try www.zap2it.com and your zip code..

Has anyone found the best zipcode to display programming guides from the Internet. I use Excite.com TV listing and you have to enter the zipcode to find listings. Verizon FIOS is not listed yet and I was wondering if any zipcodes in California work yet?

I tried the zap2it website and does not list FIOS as an option yet.
I found Murrieta CA at 92562 Verizon Digital Build to work.

I just scheduled a FIOS TV install and I wanted to give a 'heads-up" to any AVS members in the Olney area of Maryland that it is now available. FYI - 1-800-688-2880

Kes-
IS tomorrow going to be the big day for your local HD's?? :p

Keep up posted.

Kes-
IS tomorrow going to be the big day for your local HD's?? :p

Keep up posted.

Yep, for the THIRD date I have been given, maybe the third time is the charm in this case, but not holding my breath.....

Yep, for the THIRD date I have been given, maybe the third time is the charm in this case, but not holding my breath.....

Hey, they came through.....sort of....

Fox is on there, but NBC....umm, while the station is labeled WAVY HD(NBC) and the program guide shows the news is supposed to be on it is showing the same thing as WHRO HD(PBS).....hmm....somebody didn't check their work overnight.

Ok, they must have just added them, it is showing the right thing now. So now, we are just missing ABC for the big 4 to be in HD.

Hey-
Congrats Kes! At least you have something to be happy about.

So is ABC owned by a different company? Just curious. Hope they get that added for you.

All we got in Delaware was the FIOS Help Channel on 111.

Does anyone know if tomorrow's UFC pay per view fight will be available in HD?

Killer-
I believe Comcast is offering it in HD, but don't expect it from FIOS.

We can't even get new National HD channels let alone an HD channel for PPV.

All, I would appreciate any insight you have on the topics below:
1. Can the folks who live in AA county Maryland (or actually any of the areas on this thread) that have switched from Comcast to FIOS give me their opionions on whether they made the right choice? Verizon stopped by the other night and made an offer that would save me some money but I do not know if it is worth the hassle of switching over.
2. If I kept my Comcast service, did a side by side comparison after the install, and decide that I liked Comcast better, will Verizon let me out of the contract? Is there a grace period or is it that once the install is complete you're stuck?
2. The one thing about FIOS that bothers me a little is that they do not offer HD VOD. Has anyone heard whether this is in the works or not? We love the Discovery channel HD VOD and would hope that Verizon woul do something similar.

There are many pros and cons for switching and I am trying to weigh them; however, since FIOS TV is so new, I do not know anyone that has switched from Comcast to Verizon and I have not been able to see it in action.

Jan-

HD VOD is in the works - and they were actually testing it earlier this year. Some of us were able to find it buried in the On Demand categories.

Plans / rumors are saying it should be out by summertime or so. It did look really nice - they were streaming it at around 18-19 MB - so the picture quality was great. They had a HD VOD show from Ambient.tv - so it was just still shots of photos / pictures.

The only thing is - since it comes over the internet side of things, it was eating into the download speeds if you were on the internet AND watching HD VOD at the same time. I noticed this and made the FIOS technical group aware of it. They are supposed to have the ability to do a temporary expansion of your download cap while watching VOD.

So they need to work out that issue before rolling it out full-time. Ever since I reported that issue, we haven't seen anymore test "shows" available.

2) I believe FIOS TV gives you a 30-day trial period - so you could do a side-by-side during that time.

3) I left DISH for FIOS TV - and i'm glad. Picture quality is much better SD and HD. Now I only wish they'd add some more HD channels that I used to have on DISH.

Would like to hear any opinions on VZ's surround sound. Most all HD channels are in 5.1 dolby, but some time only receive two sound channels (even though it still indicates 5.1). Does anyone else experience this?

All, I would appreciate any insight you have on the topics below:
1. Can the folks who live in AA county Maryland (or actually any of the areas on this thread) that have switched from Comcast to FIOS give me their opionions on whether they made the right choice? Verizon stopped by the other night and made an offer that would save me some money but I do not know if it is worth the hassle of switching over.
2. If I kept my Comcast service, did a side by side comparison after the install, and decide that I liked Comcast better, will Verizon let me out of the contract? Is there a grace period or is it that once the install is complete you're stuck?
3. The one thing about FIOS that bothers me a little is that they do not offer HD VOD. Has anyone heard whether this is in the works or not? We love the Discovery channel HD VOD and would hope that Verizon woul do something similar.

There are many pros and cons for switching and I am trying to weigh them; however, since FIOS TV is so new, I do not know anyone that has switched from Comcast to Verizon and I have not been able to see it in action.

I'm in AA County and I made the switch from Comcast to Verizon late last year.

2. My Verizon installer either didn't know how, or didn't want to, wire it simultaneously as Comcast, so I could never do the side-by-side comparison. There is a grace period though, and I believe it's 30 days but a simple phone call would answer that question.
3. My main advice to anyone is make sure you sign up for FIOS because you're happy with what they have now, not because of what they may have later. If HD VOD is a concern, then make sure you can live without it before committing to FIOS.

1. I made a good but not great decision. I'm missing CSN-HD more than anything. The Guide/DVR interface is a bit simplistic, but it works, and the DVR does have more space than Comcast's. The great equalizer for me is the SD picture quality which is a notable improvement across the board.

The other thing to consider is calling up Comcast and getting a price match until you're ready to jump ship. That to me, is a no-brainer.

Hey-
Congrats Kes! At least you have something to be happy about.

So is ABC owned by a different company? Just curious. Hope they get that added for you.

All we got in Delaware was the FIOS Help Channel on 111.

They are, however FiOS has a station owned by the same company(Belo) on it's system in Plano(I think). It's interesting that I emailed the ABC station, they say Verizon has been in hooking up their equipment and that the agreement was grandfathered in, then I email the VA franchize manager for FiOS, and he says negotiations are ongoing....I don't know who to believe.

Would like to hear any opinions on VZ's surround sound. Most all HD channels are in 5.1 dolby, but some time only receive two sound channels (even though it still indicates 5.1). Does anyone else experience this?

The VZ FiOS-TV surround sound is great! The best was for the HBO series 'ROME'. :)

Hey, they came through.....sort of....

Fox is on there, but NBC....umm, while the station is labeled WAVY HD(NBC) and the program guide shows the news is supposed to be on it is showing the same thing as WHRO HD(PBS).....hmm....somebody didn't check their work overnight.

Ok, they must have just added them, it is showing the right thing now. So now, we are just missing ABC for the big 4 to be in HD.

Too bad only AVS members know about it. Nothing about these additions appears on their website and the 'Messages" light is not blinking on the STB (but I don't think that will work until after the big software change later this year). Hopefully, either the local stations or VZ will say something during the local news broadcasts or in the big TV supplement in this weekend's paper.

I'm in AA County and I made the switch from Comcast to Verizon late last year.

2. My Verizon installer either didn't know how, or didn't want to, wire it simultaneously as Comcast, so I could never do the side-by-side comparison. There is a grace period though, and I believe it's 30 days but a simple phone call would answer that question.
3. My main advice to anyone is make sure you sign up for FIOS because you're happy with what they have now, not because of what they may have later. If HD VOD is a concern, then make sure you can live without it before committing to FIOS.

1. I made a good but not great decision. I'm missing CSN-HD more than anything. The Guide/DVR interface is a bit simplistic, but it works, and the DVR does have more space than Comcast's. The great equalizer for me is the SD picture quality which is a notable improvement across the board.

The other thing to consider is calling up Comcast and getting a price match until you're ready to jump ship. That to me, is a no-brainer.

Raven 313, what are the franchise fees and taxes you pay in AA for FIOS TV on top of the VZ package prices?

2. My Verizon installer either didn't know how, or didn't want to, wire it simultaneously as Comcast, so I could never do the side-by-side comparison. There is a grace period though, and I believe it's 30 days but a simple phone call would answer that question.


It's not possible for them to let you do a side-by-side comparison of the two services. They are using the same cables inside your home that Comcast uses. That's all hooked up at the same point either on the outside or inside of your home. You can't have two services hooked up to it at the same time. It's not physically possible.

It's not possible for them to let you do a side-by-side comparison of the two services. They are using the same cables inside your home that Comcast uses. That's all hooked up at the same point either on the outside or inside of your home. You can't have two services hooked up to it at the same time. It's not physically possible.It's physically possible ... you just need the duplicated coax. My cable system used to be a dual cable (A/B ... two coax cables to every outlet) system so ... I've two coax lines coming into the house ... two splitters ... two coax lines to each outlet ... did a side-by-side for about two days.

If you want to run secondary coax everywhere ... the installers should be able to offer it. They'd just (very legitimately) have to charge an arm and a leg for it.