I think they need to recast some of the supporting cast.

If this gets a pickup, I expect it to get the Friday slot Numbers is vacating.

Yea, well, everyone's got their opinion but the spinoff could spin-off to another dimension and I wouldn't miss it. Yes, Whitaker is a very good actor (albeit a bit odd looking) but I had absolutely no interest in the alternate crew.

I guess the FBI lets agents do whatever they want and then only fire the ones that f**k up; nice strategy.

And thanks Mike, I was trying to remember where I had seen that blonde tech before. Nice looking, OK acting but a bit strange (with what seems to be a really odd-shaped head :)).

Of course the producers can gauge public opinion better than I can, perhaps this second show will grow on people.


She's pretty cute, though. THere seems to be a trend of having the techies as females. Not a bad trend. ;)

I hate the spinoff.

Whats wrong Forest's Eye? One eye is half shut.

They just force relationships and the two teams had no chemistry. Where's Reed during the episode? I think he was in the episode for 1 minute only.

The Serial Killer was interesting though. FIGHT TO THE DEATH!

The eye problem is called Ptosis.. It is drooping of the eyelid caused by a weak muscle.. He said he may have surgery because it is affecting his vision.. Anyway his team is just unbelievable.. No ex-cons work as agents.. Looks more like the A-Team..

- As far as I know Ed Benero is staying on board the original Criminal Minds and Chris Mundy (who has written some pretty good episodes) will go to the spin-off. The original show will not suffer as far as quality.

- Chemistry between the 2 teams is neither here nor there, they won't be working together again unless there's a crossover next season.

- The CSI's are starting to fail in the ratings so it's possible one of those goes to 10 pm Friday, or The Good Wife slides in at 9 to anchor the night and Medium slides to 10. As it stands Criminal Minds is their youngest skewing drama and they're surely expecting a similar skew with this spin-off, so it'd be stupid to put this at 10 pm Friday.

It feels like NCIS in LA this spinoff.

lol

As this show has been on quite some time now, has there been any discussion around a story that brings back a previous child actor that was "broken" by a traumatic case, and is now starting out as a new serial killer?

jdg

As this show has been on quite some time now, has there been any discussion around a story that brings back a previous child actor that was "broken" by a traumatic case, and is now starting out as a new serial killer?

jdg

Not that I know of, though that would be cool concept. There are tons of episodes I can think of where people could come back and be killers.

This season feels like they are just treading water. ION recently reran the 2 parter about the BAU in NY when Hotch's SUV gets blown up. The quality of those 2 episodes is in stark contrast to this season, which has yet to introduce an arc or interesting storyline. Are the showrunners focused on the spinoff?

Plus, I miss JJ.

last night was weak, worst i could remember
i also miss jj

I agree, weak eppy.. took the plot from "Psycho" and gave it a Criminal Minds twist.. Looks like the cast from the old Prison Break are keeping busy.. Last night Robert (T-Bag) Knepper was the villain and the other night on Chase, Amaury Nolasco (Fernando Sucre) is a good guy regular..:D

I dunno about that it still is a great show in my mind.

Once again, sort of a flat show. Something needs to happen to perk this cast up.

the scene with the kid shining the light in the bears face was pathetic.. A good ending would be for the bear to kill the kidnapper..

My only problem is Mrs. Piggy getting a bigger role instead of staying on her computer.

Bring back AJ!

Last night's show was a rerun (apparently from last season) but was one tha my wife and I had not seen. It was very obvious in watching it that the storylines were much better last year than in recent episodes, and also that the loss of JJ greatly affects the show (negatively).

Last night's show was a rerun (apparently from last season) but was one tha my wife and I had not seen. It was very obvious in watching it that the storylines were much better last year than in recent episodes, and also that the loss of JJ greatly affects the show (negatively).

Yeah last season had a bunch of great episodes. Last night's was directed by Matthew Gray Gubler (Reid).

Yeah last season had a bunch of great episodes. Last night's was directed by Matthew Gray Gubler (Reid).

DVR'd but didn't watch yet. This season is really flat.

This I can live with (from the Futon Critic):

CRIMINAL MINDS (CBS) - Rachel Nichols reportedly is in talks to be upped to regular on the series. Her character, Agent Ashley Seaver, "an FBI cadet with a troubled past" who assists the team, makes her first appearance in next week's episode. Said addition would fill the void left by the departure of A.J. Cook from the series as well as co-star Paget Brewster's reduced role. Brewster nevertheless "has been asked to return to a status of a full-fledged regular on the show but will weigh pilot offers," according to the report.

I thought this show was much better than most of the episodes this season. Rachel Nichols was a breath of fresh air, and the show itself was a little more intense. When they first introduced her, I was reminded of the scene in the beginning of Silence of the Lambs when Clarice Starling was on the obstacle course and was called to Jack Crawford's office.

Does anyone know the artist and song that was being played close to the end of the episode as they were exiting the house after shooting the killer? A very moving song.

"Far from Home" by Five Finger Death Punch/ Good song.

She cried too much. I haven't decided if I like her or not.

I thought this show was much better than most of the episodes this season. Rachel Nichols was a breath of fresh air, and the show itself was a little more intense. When they first introduced her, I was reminded of the scene in the beginning of Silence of the Lambs when Clarice Starling was on the obstacle course and was called to Jack Crawford's office.

I concur, probably the best episode of the season for a show that has become very formulaic, and frankly, boring; I was about to drop it from my DVR list. Rachel Nichols looked great(doesn't look as drawn as I've seen her her in a previous TV role) and gave a very impressive performance amongst a cast that is very wooden. My only complaint, and it's something that is very hard to get around with episodic TV, the fact that when you see the guest star, someone who you are likely familiar with from other guest spots on other shows, chances are 90% or better that's "who done it". This episode threw in a few red herrings, the detective and security guard, but as soon as we saw the father, I knew it was him. Plus, I think they should have held off on the reveal until he pulled the knife - they telegraphed who it was as soon as Garcia mentioned his criminal assault background. It's just a weakness that's hard to get around with television, it was a very good episode though and kept the show on my record list.

I concur, probably the best episode of the season for a show that has become very formulaic, and frankly, boring; I was about to drop it from my DVR list. Rachel Nichols looked great(doesn't look as drawn as I've seen her her in a previous TV role) and gave a very impressive performance amongst a cast that is very wooden. My only complaint, and it's something that is very hard to get around with episodic TV, the fact that when you see the guest star, someone who you are likely familiar with from other guest spots on other shows, chances are 90% or better that's "who done it". This episode threw in a few red herrings, the detective and security guard, but as soon as we saw the father, I knew it was him. Plus, I think they should have held off on the reveal until he pulled the knife - they telegraphed who it was as soon as Garcia mentioned his criminal assault background. It's just a weakness that's hard to get around with television, it was a very good episode though and kept the show on my record list.


I agree. Plus I think the dynamic was changed when JJ left the show - Garcia is not in the right role as coordinator at the beginning of each episode.

CM in the past also had a few recurring threads which is good device to get a deeper look at the characters, and has been completely missing this season.

I thought Rachel looked great, and I think she can be a good addition as long as the writers don't rely on the angst factor. It seems a reach that her father was a murderer with an obvious past connection to the team, but I hope they don't dwell on that too much.

The blondie cadet is an JJ Clone.


Might as well ask her back.

Why she left anyways?

The blondie cadet is an JJ Clone.


Might as well ask her back.

Why she left anyways?

I don't think many details were released, just that she was let go. I believe AJ is guesting on L&A:SVU next week?

they should get rid of the garcia
she is the most unrealistic aspect of the show
- the searches and results she gets in seconds
- her inappropriate attire and behavior

they should get rid of the garcia
she is the most unrealistic aspect of the show
- the searches and results she gets in seconds
- her inappropriate attire and behavior



Usually I like the quirky computer genius character on these type of shows but there is something about her that is really annoying. I can't put my finger on what it is.

From reading around the internet, it seems like people either love her or hate her- there's no middle ground.

"Far from Home" by Five Finger Death Punch/ Good song.

Thanks, I bought it on iTunes.

I really like Rachel but I feel kinda disappointed that her character so far at least appears to be a slightly mainstreamed version of her character on "The Inside".

Damn I wish The Inside was never canceled.

I really like Rachel but I feel kinda disappointed that her character so far at least appears to be a slightly mainstreamed version of her character on "The Inside".

Damn I wish The Inside was never canceled.

That was a good show. It slipped thorugh the cracks - I think because it started during the summer?

Did they save some money by not having Hotchner on the show this week?

read the post about Garcia, either you love her or hate her.. Put me in the column of disliking her.. Between her gaudy outfits and her crush on Morgan, it brings down the team portrayal.. No more "hey baby doll" talk from Morgan please..other than that, one of my favorite shows on tv now..

read the post about Garcia, either you love her or hate her.. Put me in the column of disliking her.. Between her gaudy outfits and her crush on Morgan, it brings down the team portrayal.. No more "hey baby doll" talk from Morgan please..other than that, one of my favorite shows on tv now..

baby girl

thanks DM145 for the correction, I knew I was close.. I was gonna stop by your house for some hot chocolate after freezing at Giants stadium against the Redskins but didn't know your address, (only kidding)..hoping for a win this sunday.. in the snow?

That episode may have had the sloppiest, most abrupt writing to date. They have this huge buildup only to have Morgan barge into a private dinner, accuse a congressman after being warned not to by a superior, then said congressman gets arrested with no solid evidence in roughly 5 minutes of screen time and then nothing to tie that all up.

^^
Yeah--it was like they spent all that time building up the show and then when it came time to solve it, they ran out of time and just assumed everything away.:confused:

Plus they let a killer go free after he killed someone during parole.

One of the worst plot holes I've seen in 115+ episodes of Criminal Minds, a show which had pretty reliable writing up until these last 2 seasons.

thanks DM145 for the correction, I knew I was close.. I was gonna stop by your house for some hot chocolate after freezing at Giants stadium against the Redskins but didn't know your address, (only kidding)..hoping for a win this sunday.. in the snow?

i do live a few minutes away from the stadium but my wife i would have been in no mood for company after that monumental collapse!

extremely violent eppy tonight, no wonder we got the warning before the show.. Very high body count even for CM standards..A modern day Bonnie and Clyde..wow

I think the writer has watched "Natural Born Killers" a few times.;) Or once, ten or fifteen years ago, and they regurgitated the basic plot subconsciously.

Great episode tonight... I like that it was a bit more edgy. At one point I thought they were going to do a full blown sex scene. Interesting episode.

On another note... Shemar Moore looks great at 40 years old. My god is he good looking. He's honestly the reason I tune in :D

Last night we saw bad side of Friday Night Lights' Tara.

good episode last night, whats with the Prentiss story line? Is this her last season? Doesn't look like a good situation for her in the coming attractions..:eek:

good episode last night, whats with the Prentiss story line? Is this her last season? Doesn't look like a good situation for her in the coming attractions..:eek:I've had a problem with the entire Prentiss story arc. It's inconceivable that she wouldn't have shared, with her BAU team, the situation with the Irish dude, when after the shootout it was apparent the murders were tied to past assignments. There was a joint task force. Interpol was consulted. Keeping the team in the dark held no relevance and put additional lives in jeopardy. Then taking off at the end of the briefing to go have a showdown was the ultimate in stupid. If they are writing her off the show, it surely is a clumsily written. If they aren't how can the team ever trust her again.

Agree on Garcia...nails across the blackboard.

I'm not sure how you can work for Interpol, join the FBI, lose your accent, erase your history, and hide your secret about an IRA nutjob who's trying to kill you.

Get rid of Garcia and keep Prentiss.. I read an article how she was mad about cutting AJ out of the show, maybe AJ is coming back?
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/criminal-minds/paget-brewster-slams-creative-37307.aspx

^^^^^^^^
maybe aj will return for emily/lauren's funeral

good episode tying up a lot of loose ends. What did everyone think of episode? Nice to see AJ again, I will miss Emily..

I thought it was a poorly executed and sloppily written story arc, but I'm glad they finally wrapped it up. I've always liked looking at Paget Brewster, but now I realize either she can't act or she was mailing it in, pissed that she was written off the show, ala AJ Cook. I had to laugh. My wife was in tears at the hospital scene, then the funeral, then got angry when at the end it's broadly hinted that she survived and is in hding.

Some of the story was 'eh.' When she shot that one fellow in the car I thought she was hard core, but then we find it was an ear nick. Oh, I guess we have to keep her a "good girl" (reminds me of the 80s A-Team where they fire thousands of rounds from automatic weapons and yet not one person ever got a scratch).

It was nice seeing AJ again. And being a typical male, I feel compelled to state that I preferred Paget's "Lauren hair style" to the straight "Prentiss hair style."

Here's my theory:

Paget Brewster wanted out so they accommodated her with this story arc but why wouldn't she be in the final scene? I think it is because she expected to be killed and written out but the series producers want to keep negotiating with her for an eventual return so they had to shoot the scene from behind her using a double. They keep her character alive and hope to work with her again.

By the way, any chance of AJ Cook returning to the series?

By the way, any chance of AJ Cook returning to the series?

I wish she looked so good last night. I am sure there is always a chance but the goal was to get rid of the 2 woman and they have great ending last night.

I wasn't real clear on whether they were able to capture Doyle at the end. Did they or didn't they?

Lauren Reynolds is dead, and now so is Emily Prentiss. I'd like to see a spinoff with Emily as an international spy. Hopefully she will return next year. The producers have offered her full regular status if she decides to come back, but she is free to explore pilots during pilot season. If none of them are picked up, she will probably be back.

I wasn't real clear on whether they were able to capture Doyle at the end. Did they or didn't they?

Lauren Reynolds is dead, and now so is Emily Prentiss. I'd like to see a spinoff with Emily as an international spy. Hopefully she will return next year. The producers have offered her full regular status if she decides to come back, but she is free to explore pilots during pilot season. If none of them are picked up, she will probably be back.

it looked like he escaped and that is why they faked emily/laurens death

Aj comes back and no one gets excited on the team and treat like a foreigner.

Prentess has a fake funeral without anyone knowing.

WTH!

Aj comes back and no one gets excited on the team and treat like a foreigner.

Prentess has a fake funeral without anyone knowing.

WTH!


Agreed. This episode/arc felt very forced. Why they decided after last year to mess with a good thing is beyond me. Obviously budgetary, but how much will they really save? The chemistry is way off this year. The interplay between Emily and Morgan during the "death scene" was just not there at all.

Prentess has a fake funeral without anyone knowing.

When A.J. was talking to Hotch behind the doors, I got the impression that she may have told him the truth. At least that was my take on that scene.

I got behind on Criminal Minds episodes and didn't catch up until over the weekend. The Emily-Lauren thread was forced and preposterous. The escape of Ian Doyle while surrounded by the FBI and Prentiss' non-death, faux funeral, and resurrection in Paris took the cake in a show long known for its implausible plots. I confess, though, it kept me engaged. It makes me a little ashamed of myself but there it its. All of this shows that a show doesn't necessarily have to be smart to be entertaining.

Aj comes back and no one gets excited on the team and treat like a foreigner.
I got excited. :D Bad move getting rid of her. Real easy on the eyes.

I wonder if she will be a stand in until Paige comes back?

^ Paget, you mean? And the answer is no. We have likely lost both.

Couldn't remember the spelling.

Well, I guess I won't be watching that anymore. They were reasons 1 & 2 why I was in the first place. I like Joe. M., but w/o those two 'honeys', it's not the same. :mad:

Anyone know the real reason they dumped both?

This is a complete guess, but I believe it had more to do with saving money than anything else. I do know that Paget was very vocal about A.J leaving and that probably was her nail in the coffin event.
It will not be the same and, like you, my interest is already waning. Watching four dudes and a wierd computer nerd = boring.

Politics. Real stupid.

Politics. Real stupid.Can you give us a little more info about what you mean without getting the thread into trouble?

Watching four dudes and a wierd computer nerd = boring.

It's looking like Rachel Nichols is a regular now on the show. At least it seems that way as she is on every week.

Can you give us a little more info about what you mean without getting the thread into trouble?


I think what he meant was the behind the scenes wrangling that always takes place between the suits and the actors. A.J. was being let go for budgetary reasons, Paget tweeted or otherwise made her feelings known and then the suits termanated her contract.

Oh and the new girl, she's nowhere near the caliber of either Paget or A.J. but i'm sure she comes cheaper, which is the main reason she's there. I had almost forgotten her

I think what he meant was the behind the scenes wrangling that always takes place between the suits and the actors. Correct.

Oh and the new girl, she's nowhere near the caliber of either Paget or A.J. but i'm sure she comes cheaper, which is the main reason she's there. I had almost forgotten her

While I agree to an extent, I'd say give it some time.

I'll be honest, I didn't think much of Paget in the beginning. When she first started, my first impression was she was nothing more than a Glaudini semi-lookalike whom she replaced.

She's cute, but you hardly ever see her.

TV Notes
Criminal Minds Exclusive: A.J. Cook Poised to Return as Showrunner Ed Bernero Departs
By Nellie Andreeva, TVline.com - April 13th, 2011

Potential great news for Criminal Minds fans: A.J. Cook is in talks to return to the CBS crime drama next season as a full-time series regular. Meanwhile, executive producer Ed Bernero — who has run the series since the beginning — is leaving. Another Criminal Minds veteran, executive producer Erica Messer, is set to take over as sole showrunner.

Cook departed Criminal Minds at the end of last season when her option was not picked up, sparking a huge outcry among fans. She appeared in the first two episodes of this season to give closure to her character JJ, who was transferred from the BAU to a job at the Pentagon. Cook then returned briefly last month for costar Paget Brewster’s final episode.

Speaking of Brewster, she is filming a comedy pilot for NBC, My Life As an Experiment, and will continue with that project if it goes to series. But if it doesn’t, I hear CBS has an option on her for Criminal Minds and, if it exercises it as many expect, the network would bring the cast of the show back to the way it was at the end of last season.

The developments, especially Cook’s potential return to Criminal Minds, do not bode well for newly-minted regular Rachel Nichols, who was brought in to fill the void left by Cook’s departure.

While things look bright for the female portion of the Criminal Minds cast, things are still murky on the male side, with stars Thomas Gibson and Shemar Moore still not signed for next season. Talks are underway with the two actors whose deals are up at the end of this cycle.

As for Bernero, he informed the cast and crew of his departure on Tuesday night. There had been speculation that he would leave the series at the end of the season, especially after his script Partners got picked up to pilot at ABC in January.

http://www.tvline.com/2011/04/criminal-minds-exclusive-a-j-cook-poised-to-return-as-showrunner-ed-bernero-departs/

Nice to see that JJ is coming back, but through this whole season finale I kept saying to myself I hope Amy Price-Francis (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0697201/) is being groomed for becoming a regular.

To me it felt like the direction they were heading, but then nothing.

the meeting where they were told that offers will be coming to leave or stay is a writers ploy since several cast members are not signed yet.

we may even see emily come back

TV Notes
Criminal Minds Exclusive: A.J. Cook Poised to Return as Showrunner Ed Bernero Departs
By Nellie Andreeva, TVline.com - April 13th, 2011

The developments, especially Cook’s potential return to Criminal Minds, do not bode well for newly-minted regular Rachel Nichols, who was brought in to fill the void left by Cook’s departure.

http://www.tvline.com/2011/04/criminal-minds-exclusive-a-j-cook-poised-to-return-as-showrunner-ed-bernero-departs/
I had thought of the same thing the writer mentioned. The Rachel Nichols character and A.J. Cook character not only fill the same kind of roles in the show, they even look a lot alike.

Nice to see that JJ is coming back, but through this whole season finale I kept saying to myself I hope Amy Price-Francis (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0697201/) is being groomed for becoming a regular.

To me it felt like the direction they were heading, but then nothing.
I was wondering about that, too. It would be nice to see Amy Price-Francis back, too, but that would certainly leave the show with more gorgeous women in the cast than is usually the case with police procedurals.

It would be nice to see Amy Price-Francis back, too, but that would certainly leave the show with more gorgeous women in the cast than is usually the case with police procedurals.
She's been very busy this year with "Chicago Code" and her own Canadian series "King". Since "Chicago Code" got cancelled, I guess it would free her up some time :)

Maybe they should rehire "Ghost Dog" Forrest Whiteker since he lost his criminal minds show.

Maybe they should rehire "Ghost Dog" Forrest Whiteker since he lost his criminal minds show.
Forest Whitaker could never be called pretty but he is a hell of an actor, as his Best Actor Oscar demonstrates.

Forest Whitaker could never be called pretty but he is a hell of an actor, as his Best Actor Oscar demonstrates.

That may be so, but he is downright awful on Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior.

I haven't seen so much overacting in a long time.

That may be so, but he is downright awful on Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior.

I haven't seen so much overacting in a long time.



Gott agree .. Nothing personal against Forest Whittaker but he was the weak link on the show .. Had no problems with the rest of the cast but he simply was not convincing as the lead and if it had been renewed I"d have wanted to see a recast for Sam ..
Any word on Thomas Gibson sticking around ? Sure hope so as he really rocks as Hotch !

I hope they resolve Suspect Behavior rather that just mention it in Criminal Minds.

TV Notes
Paget Brewster Returning To 'Criminal Minds' Next Season, Rachel Nichols Leaving
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - May 28th, 2011

EXCLUSIVE: Paget Brewster will continue on CBS' crime drama Criminal Minds next season, while new series regular Rachel Nichols won't return. Meanwhile, co-star Thomas Gibson still doesn't have a deal for next season, with negotiations ongoing.

I hear CBS and series' producer ABC Studios have exercised the option they have on Brewster and opted not to pick up Nichols. As part of Brewster's modified deal for Criminal Minds last season, which included her doing fewer episodes, she got an out to do a pilot. Brewster used the opportunity and did a pilot, NBC's comedy My Life as an Experiment, which didn't make the cut to series. Bewster's pilot was in first position to Criminal Minds but ABC Studios had an option to bring the actress back to the CBS drama if the pilot didn't go to series and has now exercised that option. With Brewster and original cast member and fan favorite A.J. Cook returning to the crime drama alongside Kirsten Vangsness, there wasn't much room left for Nichols, whose character Ashley Seaver was introduced last season in part to fill the void left by the departure of Cook's JJ. As for Gibson, I hear Criminal Minds producers want him back. He got warm reception by international buyers at the L.A. Screenings this week where he appeared with other cast members of the veteran CBS crime drama.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/paget-brewster-returning-to-criminal-minds-next-season-rachel-nichols-leaving/

So when was the last time a show axed TWO series regulars, had farewell episodes for both, then had them both come back the next season?

Somebody called for a mulligan. While I liked both actors through most of their earlier run, I though PB did a horrible job on her last arc. She was fine within the ensemble, but wooden when she was featured. I really don't know what the showrunners were going for by releasing those two...budget cuts probably. They figured Gibson and Montegna were going to cost them and couldn't be cut, so they axed lesser paid actors that still command healthy salaries vs. newcomer(s)...I guess.

I'd love to see Paget, AJ & Rachel together. ;)

I wouldn't, for fear of not being able to differentiate between Nichols and Cook.

You might have a point there, but I will take my chances. :D

Doesn't make sense since they killed off her character.

Why not give "Ghost Dog" Whitaker another chance?

Bring back Giddeon!

:D

Doesn't make sense since they killed off her character.

Why not give "Ghost Dog" Whitaker another chance?

Bring back Giddeon!

:DNo they didn't...the final scene was AJ meeting her in Paris. Her death was a ruse only known by Hoch and AJ.

TV Notes
Thomas Gibson Closes Deal To Continue On 'Criminal Minds'
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - June 20th, 2011

EXCLUSIVE: This was close: After lengthy and rough negotiations, Criminal Minds star Thomas Gibson just signed a deal to return to the veteran CBS drama only two weeks before it is scheduled to begin production on its upcoming seventh season. I hear Gibson has signed on for two more years in a deal worth mid-to-high seven figures, plus a signing bonus, with the actor more than doubling his previous salary.

The difficult negotiations with CBS, CBS Studios and ABC Studios created some jitters in the Criminal Minds writers room as the show's scribes have been breaking stories and working on scripts for next season for almost a month now without knowing for sure if Gibson's character, Supervisory Special Agent Aaron Hotchner, will return. With Gibson and Shemar Moore set to come back and Paget Brewster and A.J. Cook rejoining them, Joe Mantegna, Matthew Gray Gubler and Kristen Vangsness, Criminal Minds will return in the fall with its post-Mandy Patinkin cast intact.

Despite not having a deal, Gibson had been fulfilling all of his Criminal Minds obligations. He mingled with international buyers at the LA Screenings and then stumped for the show at the Monte Carlo TV festival and at a press junket in London. The actor's reps at Paradigm and Frontline Management could not be reached for comment.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/hell-be-back-thomas-gibson-closes-deal-to-continue-on-criminal-minds/

I thougth last night's show was very edgy and frankly surprised that there isn't
some push back. Anyone else see it and know what I mean.

I thougth last night's show was very edgy and frankly surprised that there isn't
some push back. Anyone else see it and know what I mean.

Oh, yeah. That was a seriously sick episode. I'm already tired of the Prentiss angst. Just move on.

glad gang is all back
just need Mandy Patinkin to return

Hell ya I'm watching.

Threads merged.

One of my favorite shows on tv.. I have been watching since day one, great show..that spinoff was pathetic.an ex con and a British agent in the FBI?

glad gang is all back
just need Mandy Patinkin to return

Not likely as he is on Showtime's "Homeland".

I thought Andy Milder (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586994/) did an incredible job as Cy. Such a departure from his Weeds character...

I thought Andy Milder (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586994/) did an incredible job as Cy. Such a departure from his Weeds character...

Wow! Now that was a performance. The guy was actually drooling when they were interrogating him at the end. He was definitely into it.

Why the father would want to watch that recording at the end is beyond me.

Why the father would want to watch that recording at the end is beyond me.

it was the one condition Cy requested to reveal location of his daughter.

So what? They already found the daughter.

So what? They already found the daughter.

it's a tv drama thats what

why was the episode tonight a REPEAT! UGH:mad:

why was the episode tonight a REPEAT! UGH:mad:

Didn't want to go against World Series which turns out was postponed due to rain

Didn't want to go against World Series which turns out was postponed due to rain

Yeah that was what my wife said...makes sense,thanx

Prentiss not knowing coordinates??? It could of been a decent episode if not for that. Prentiss is supposed to have CIA and FBI training. Things like this make it difficult to enjoy.

good eppy last night, still one of my favorite shows, brain freeze by Prentiss aside. Side story about Hotch's boss starting her holiday celebrating interesting.:eek:

A very good episode last night. There was some good character development with Hotch and the boxer was a sympathetic figure, not the usual run of the mill lunatic. Very touching ending with Hotch showing a tear in his eye. I still like this show a lot.

A very good episode last night. There was some good character development with Hotch and the boxer was a sympathetic figure, not the usual run of the mill lunatic. Very touching ending with Hotch showing a tear in his eye. I still like this show a lot.

Indeed, it was reminiscent of season 5 as far as quality goes. I haven't been overly impressed this season.

A very good episode last night. There was some good character development with Hotch and the boxer was a sympathetic figure, not the usual run of the mill lunatic. Very touching ending with Hotch showing a tear in his eye. I still like this show a lot.

Indeed, it was reminiscent of season 5 as far as quality goes. I haven't been overly impressed this season.
I liked the Hotch elements. It's always good to see him being human. However the boxer story was really out there AFAIC, especially the MMA scene in which he wanted to be pulverized all of a sudden in order to see his son in the hospital. :confused: What? He was visiting his son multiple times throughout the episode! Ok, maybe he needed to lose psychologically to get in the same place-metaphysically as his son- in order to let him go. That's a stretch.

The dying son story was quite sad, of course.

I enjoy the show but the super confident profiling is such BS! "The UNSUB is obviously a young man in great shape who is showing blood lust". Oh yeah?? They're always coming across similarly violent murder scenes.

There's often little evidence to support what turns out to be their incredibly accurate statements! That always makes me laugh. Also, when people are getting killed left and right, they always have time for some corny playful exchange with Penelope who can dig up info on the fly..as they're asking in what looks like real time. "Penelope, baby doll, my love, how about the underground MMA events in Philadelphia tonight?" She spits back, "Oh they're here, here and here". Let's go!!

Agreed, good episode aside from the fast profiling. Maybe we could swap "Ben" from Person of Interest with Penelope. Won't be anymore Babydoll talk. (is that 1 word or 2?)..:D

Good episode last night. I like the episodes where they don't follow the typical formula. Here, having the intended victim turn the tables and kidnap the person she thought was the unsub was a nice touch.

I think it was intended to be a "we don't know if he's really the unsub" plot. But anyone paying attention to the music could tell that the unsub was lying. He claimed he was playing "Making Love Out of Nothing At All" in the bar, but he was clearly playing "Total Eclipse of the Heart."

I don't want to see the fat girl with cat ears no more.


I did enjoy the Zodiac copycat case.

Obsessive Compulsive disorder can be bad for you.

Speaking of the Zodiac case, it struck me as odd that Reid would confide in Prentiss as to his issues or that Prentiss would even approach him. He's always been closer to JJ. But I'm glad that they dealt with that issue this week in stating that Prentiss is overcompensating for her own injuries.

Good to see Dina Meyer again.

I just don't know, I don't really like chubby women but Penelope has something I really like, perhaps the way she talks (I could have phone sex with her for hours, she often does that with Morgan)..

I've been burning my eyes watching this show, I watched the whole season 5 and 6 in a few days.. whew, super marathon and I couldn't stop watching..

Glad to see AJ back, also Prentiss..

Still scratching my head about the show's formula, they do the profile, they tell it to the local PD or law office, this is 99% waste of time, they team is the one that always finds the unsub, the local PD rarely does it with profile and all..

Did anybody watch this last night? It was kinda strange. The broadcast had some type of "audio captioning for the blind" or something going on. I didn't know there was such a thing. Every minute or so a male voice would say something like "Agent X opens the door and walks in", or "Agent Y points the gun at" whatever. I thought I accidentally changed some obscure setting on the TiVo (I was watching the show live). I tried CBS on the Cable feed and OTA, both had the same voice-over going on. I then tried my TV tuner directly and it had the same thing. Anybody else see (hear) this?

Did anybody watch this last night? It was kinda strange. The broadcast had some type of "audio captioning for the blind" or something going on. I didn't know there was such a thing. Every minute or so a male voice would say something like "Agent X opens the door and walks in", or "Agent Y points the gun at" whatever. I thought I accidentally changed some obscure setting on the TiVo (I was watching the show live). I tried CBS on the Cable feed and OTA, both had the same voice-over going on. I then tried my TV tuner directly and it had the same thing. Anybody else see (hear) this?

I did not have that issue. FIOS VHO4

Interesting. It might be worthwhile to point out that I was watching this in the bedroom (stereo only, no 5.1 audio) since my wife was watching AI on the bigscreen. The TiVo at the bigscreen was recording Criminal Minds, so I can check tonight to see if the 5.1 audio contained the voice-over here also . . .

No such thing here. Did you have some sort of alternate audio turned on?

This is called DVS, Decriptive Video Service, you probably changed the audio setting on yout tv to SAP. Check out wiki for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_Video_Service

No such thing here. Did you have some sort of alternate audio turned on?

No, that's what's so strange. Again, I was watching in the bedroom (stereo sound only). I was watching "live" but tuning through a TiVo Premier, and had just finished watching Survivor, where the sound was normal. During Criminal Minds I kept hearing something strange, a male voice at a somewhat reduced volume level. I began to pay closer attention to it and realized the voice was describing the visuals. I had been watching OTA, so I tuned to the HD cable equivalent.. same thing (as expected). I quickly checked TiVo settings during a commercial and found nothing unusual. After continuing to hear this I switched to the TV's OTA input and heard the same male voice there, discounting the possibility that it was a TiVo audio setting. I was assuming at that time that it was a netwok issue, but maybe it was just my local station. Or maybe it only affected the stereo sound, and everyone else here on the forum was watching with 5.1 audio. I will check on the other TiVo (that was recording the show) to see if 5.1 audio had the same voice, at least in my location . . .:confused:

This "DVS" voice is on the the TiVo'd (a different Tivo) recording of this episode as well, and the voice is present on both the 5.1 and the stereo audio tracks. At about 12 minutes into the recording there is an easy-to-find segment where the "voice" speaks several consecutive sentences, talking about the brunette woman carrying a potted plant to the garbage receptacle. If anyone else has this on DVR I'd be curious to know if this was just a local issue in my area . . .

worst episode that i could ever remember

worst episode that i could ever remember

I dozed through it.

It can't be easy to keep coming up with fresh stories for a show that's been on this long. These later seasons are nothing compared to the early seasons.

It can't be easy to keep coming up with fresh stories for a show that's been on this long. These later seasons are nothing compared to the early seasons.

Agreed. There's no tension. Nothing between the characters.

Watched the season finale...

So Emily is gone again? mmm it seems Paget can't keep this job much.. I haven't seen any notes of contract renewing by any of the cast members yet..

AJ Cook looked stunning at the end..

Episode had it's ups and down, on the upside the action packed Tricia Helfer bits and all the bank stuff, the downside too much filler on the team's lives, like it was 20 mins to go and the case was closed and I kinda knew where this was going.. saying goodbyes to Emily and the JJ wedding..

Good episode, I do concur, too much filler... The two fights we're very good, and Tricia Helfer was terriffic, and as always, very hot..

Agreed, good episode aside from the fast profiling. Maybe we could swap "Ben" from Person of Interest with Penelope. Won't be anymore Babydoll talk. (is that 1 word or 2?)..:D


I enjoy the show but the Babydoll talk is annoying.

What was the sense in bringing Prentiss back, only to have her leave again?

Was it just to give the other characters closure or did they hit another contract snag?

What was the sense in bringing Prentiss back, only to have her leave again?

Was it just to give the other characters closure or did they hit another contract snag?

Prentess should have stay dead.

Bring back Lola Glaudini IMO..... she's snooping around in CBS, was on a Person of Interest episode, but I don't know what will be her character excuse of coming back, she just quit the team.... but there's a vacancy now...

Prentess should have stay dead.The first time, they fired her and JJ. The audience didn't respond to Rachel Nichols, so they brought them both back. This time, the Prentiss actress wanted to leave to do other things...meh...she's beautiful, but not much of an actress.