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jefft1413
11-27-10, 02:03 PM
I have to F2's, two B1's, and the C1. Without question, the C1 is a major weak link in this line. I suppose the other way to look at it is that the F2's are the high point in the line, and it's not the little C1's fault that it can't keep up with them. It's a shame that Athena has been discontinued, and a bigger shame that they never released a center that properly matched with the F2's.

I'll likely be selling the B1's and the C1 when I move in the fall, along with my BIC Acoustech Towers. The F2's will take over the Acoustech's position as the "stereo" setup in my bedroom and I'll be needing a whole new surround system for my living room (minus the subwoofer, I'll be living in a New York apt, I have no doubt that my HSU sub will hold its own in such a small space).

I'll probably opt for Swans or Aperions when the time comes; I'll likely be holding onto them for 10+ years, until/if I leave the city and am able to move into an actual house with a basement so I can build my dream home theater. If I go with the Aperion's, probably the 5T's with the matching center and the dipole/bipole surrounds. If I go with the Swan's I might try to find a system based around the Swan Diva 5.1 or 6.1, used (I just like the aesthetics better than the .2) but otherwise probably build the system around the Diva 5.2's.

rktktpaul
11-30-10, 04:39 PM
Are you still looking for the center channel? I have a very nice condition AS-C1 and some mint condition AS-R1 bipole surrounds.

Nixonrsx, do you still have the AS-C1 to sell??

nixonrsx
12-01-10, 08:32 PM
Nixonrsx, do you still have the AS-C1 to sell??

Yes I do. PM sent

JonM in MN
12-03-10, 10:35 AM
Hey all, going from big ol' CRT projection 55 inch TV to a 65 inch DLP and need to mount my C1 on the wall above the TV.

I don't believe the Athena macromounts will work as they do on my R1 surrounds. Has anyone found a bracket that works for this speaker? Maybe a shelf?

afrogt
12-03-10, 10:46 AM
Just build a shelf with two L brackets and some wood. Very inexpensive solution from home depot.

http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Hardware-Fasteners-Shelf-Brackets/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xglZapzt/R-202034283/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Probably cost under $25 total.

Or this solution
http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-ECSB-Component-Shelf-Accessories/dp/B000EGI7V4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1291394836&sr=8-5

Tulpa
12-03-10, 12:11 PM
Yeah, I use the Omnimount shelf on my DLP with my Athena AS-C1.2, although it may not work if your DLP is one of those steep sloped back ones.

Click my sig and you can see it. It's the third pic down.

And yes, I need to dust. :(

JonM in MN
12-03-10, 12:28 PM
Good stuff guys. I'd like the solution to be invisible, if possible, maybe even a couple very strong right-sized black brackets would hold it ?

Worried that the Omnimount might not work on my incoming Mits WD65C10, it IS slope-y in the back. I like the speaker placement though.

Saw some nice curved wood shelf brackets on Amazon if I wanted to go fancy.

EDIT: Tulpa, how do the long legs of the Omnimount connect to the back of your TV?

Tulpa
12-03-10, 02:24 PM
Replied in PM.

My TV is the Samsung HLS-5086W if you want to compare the angle on its back to your Mitsu's. I think there is a little more give to the legs, but not much.

JonM in MN
12-03-10, 02:30 PM
Replied in PM.

My TV is the Samsung HLS-5086W if you want to compare the angle on its back to your Mitsu's. I think there is a little more give to the legs, but not much.

Saw a pic of that, yes, and yours is slope-y too. Should work on mine. Ordering the Omnimount, thanks Man.

valonzo
12-06-10, 04:03 PM
I am selling my 5.1 Athena surround sound system, the reason I am selling them is I'd like to upgrade now. Besides that, they are actually too big for my space anyhow. I spent a lot of time reviewing speakers before I purchased them about 3 years ago. I would give them a condition score of 8 out of 10 maybe even 9. They are in a non smoking house as well.

Make offer, local pickup only valonzo1@hotmail.com


The speakers included in the set are the following, 5 total

(2) The AS-F2 Speaker is the flagship of the AUDITION series, designed for use in larger rooms or systems. A recommended component from StereoPhile Magazine, the AS-F2 has incredible bass response, and articulate midrange and highs. Utilizing athena's 1" Teteron dome tweeter and Two 8" Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers provide huge sound in a price you won't believe! The AS-F2 is fully magnetically shielded, so it is ready to perform in your Audio Video system.
Power handling is a huge 250 watts for each speaker, and with its high 93dB efficiency will fill even the largest of homes with clear powerful sound.

(1) The AS-C1 is the matching center channel for any Audition based Home Theater System. The small size of the AS-C1 allows flexible placement, and it is magnetically shielded, so placement can be above, below or beside your TV. The AS-C1 is also a multi purpose speaker, that can be oriented vertically, so, you can utilize the AS-C1 as a center channel, a pair as left and right speakers, or you can use three of them across the front of your home theatre in an LCR configuration for precise tonal matching.
Featuring dual 5-1/2 Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers, and the athena 1" Teteron tweeter, the AS-C1 is capable of handling 150 watts of full range power. The AS-C1 in its bass reflex enclosure will astound you with its clarity, bass response, and sound output capabilities.

(2) The AS-R1 Speaker, which recieved the Sound and Vision’s Reviewer’s Choice Award when it was orginally introduced, is a bi-pole rear channel speaker designed to complement your Audition Series speakers in a home theater system. The AS-R1 is primarily designed to be wall mounted, it even comes with a simple and versatile mounting system already attached to the speakers. Additionally, there’s an insert for an optional wall mount bracket called the Macromount that will provide additional flexibility in your installation if required. Dual 1" Teteron dome tweeters in a bi-polar configuration will provide clear extended high frequencies, and the Injection Molded Polypropylene 5-1/2" woofer provides authoritative bass response down to 80Hz. The AS-R1 is recommended for use with any Audition or SCT Series product. The AS-R1 is finished in silver, an exact match to the Audition series front baffles. The AS-R1 it comes with a full faced, black cloth removable grill.

heavy-b
12-13-10, 03:00 AM
Hello,
2- F2 for front L/R
1-C1 center
2-B2 for side surround
2-B1 for rear surround
1-PSB subwoofer
1-Klipsch subwoofer
Onkyo 906 AVR

Sounds great!

GLI Freak
01-01-11, 04:46 PM
Edited.

GLI Freak
01-07-11, 11:12 AM
Edited.

methcat
01-12-11, 10:30 AM
Make offer, local pickup only valonzo1@hotmail.com



sent you an email,

cory

Viventis
03-15-11, 01:59 PM
AS-F1's up front
AS-C1 center
AS-B2's for surrounds
HSU VTF3-MKII subwoofer

Here's a question for ya... I've been considering replacing my B2's with R1.2's for the rear surrounds. Does the bi-pole design make much difference?
My System:
Fronts AS-F2 x2
Center AS-C1
Surrounds and Rears AS-R1 x4
Subwoofer AS-P400
Receiver Yamaha 765

Music 50%....Movies/TV 50%

I also have 4 AS-B1's that I played around with as Rears and Surrounds, just Rears, and just Surrounds (before I found my last R-1 on Ebay...had a 6.1 setup before getting the Yamaha 765).

I love the four AS-R1's for movies and especially for music. I believe that the R1's are just incredible surround spwaekers, which is why they are so hard to find for sale. People who have them tend to keep them. The B1's are more directional, which you might prefer for movies. In my setup, the four AS-R1's just envelope the sound all around me. The sound quality is almost identical (which makes sense since they are sonic matches).

rhapsodee
04-06-11, 09:10 PM
Hi fellow Athena enthusiasts,

I recently came across a pair of SCT S2/P2 speakers in piano black. They are demo units, and are in pretty good shape. From the Soundstage review, these speakers are about 10 years old.

The shop is asking ~USD 550 for them, which is about 50% off from the price in year 2000. Seeing as they are demo units, and the last pair that the shop has, i'm wondering if they are worth that price? Also, they are a 10 year old model, not a recent model discounted 50%.

I have listened to the speakers quite extensively, i must say i notice the treble energy between 10k-20k Hz showing in the Soundstage measurement. That seems to cause the midrange to take a backstage to the highs. The bass - midrange integrations is superb.

Advice and opinions appreciated! Thanks!

Spank1
04-17-11, 10:03 AM
I have a WS-60 i use for my center channel since 2006 that lately is giving me some distortion during movie dialog. it gets more distorted the louder the unit is turned up. Anyone else have this issue or know of a the problem or possible solution?

Thanks in advance for any knowledge you can share.

wald88
06-07-11, 06:57 PM
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement mesh grill for my AS-F2? It can be online or in the NC area... Thanks. I contacted the Athenaspeakers.com site but have not received an answer...

afrogt
06-07-11, 07:11 PM
Klipsch purchased Athena along with Energy and Mirage back in 2005-6 and then discontinued the line. I know way more about Athena speakers than the Klipsch folks ever did. I called them once and all one of the support guys could tell me is that they discontinued the brand. He knew nothing else about Athena. I used to own the AS-F1, B1, B2, C1 and point 5 speakers. Great value for the money. Sold them all in Jan 2010. Made a couple of people happy.

Here is the part and the grill is the same for the AS-F1 and F2. Part #5GRASF12
http://www.partstore.com/Model/Audio+Products+International/Athena/ASF2A.aspx?SearchTerm=True

wald88
06-08-11, 06:03 PM
Thanks afrogt!!! :D

Hellsya69
08-06-11, 08:17 AM
Figured I would come to the experts for some help. I have been looking for an Athena AS-R1.2 for a while now but it is very difficult to find these around these days. I was wondering if anybody new anywhere I might be able to increase my chances of finding one.

And a secondary question is if anyone has any suggestions for a replacement pair of DiPoles that would fit well with an all Audition Series 2 setup. In case I cannot find an R1.2 I would like to replace them with a pair that is comparable in price and performance.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.

afrogt
08-06-11, 10:38 AM
Have you looked at the dipole Jamo E8Sur at Vanns? That's a very good price.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/548546568/jamo-e8sur-2-rt?s_c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/548782691/jamo-e8sur-2-left?s_c=site_search

It'll probably be real tough to find the Athena AS-R1 since they've been discontinued for at least 5 years.

Hellsya69
08-06-11, 02:28 PM
These Jamo's look exactly like what I was looking for. Probably look into them and give them a try. Thanks again for the help.

yelloguy
08-07-11, 01:38 PM
Hello Athena owners,

I am selling my Athena Point 5's as a whole set. I have a set of 5 speakers and a center channel for a total of 6(.1) setup. No subwoofer is included. I was using them with a Velodyne sub but I will be keeping the sub for the new speakers.

Cosmetic condition is fair and all the speakers work just fine.

Anyone wants them, please PM me. You will have to be near 01824 zipcode because I will not be shipping them.

jproy13
08-08-11, 03:55 PM
Hello fellow Athena enthusiasts,

Just stumbled on this thread and am loving it.
AS-F2 x 2
AS-B1 x 2
AS-R1 x 2
AS-C1
picked them up about 6 months ago all in excellent condition except for the F2s which are in immaculate condition. The whole set up was all in original packaging and had maybe 100 to 150 hours on them all for $400.00 with 4 stands :)
Before, my receiver had no problem driving my older setup, now, my receiver will need an upgrade...darn, got to shop for a new receiver now... sheeesh

Viventis
09-06-11, 09:52 AM
Hello fellow Athena enthusiasts,

Just stumbled on this thread and am loving it.
AS-F2 x 2
AS-B1 x 2
AS-R1 x 2
AS-C1
picked them up about 6 months ago all in excellent condition except for the F2s which are in immaculate condition. The whole set up was all in original packaging and had maybe 100 to 150 hours on them all for $400.00 with 4 stands :)
Before, my receiver had no problem driving my older setup, now, my receiver will need an upgrade...darn, got to shop for a new receiver now... sheeesh

Are you using the B1's as surrounds and the R1's for the rear channels of a 7.1 system? I have 4 R1's and an extra pair of B1's, and was wondering how switching to the B1's would sound?

glennzippy
09-07-11, 04:56 PM
It looks like I will be getting rid of a pair of WS-60 speakers very soon. I was using these in my living room and I'm pretty sure I still have boxes and such. PM me if you are interested. I'll consider offers.

jproy13
09-08-11, 07:43 PM
New here. Didn't know there was an Athena forum.

This is a set I just finished for my bro-in-law. AS-B2's converted to floorstanders. Center untouched so far.

That is really nice work. Great stuff

jproy13
09-08-11, 08:21 PM
Are you using the B1's as surrounds and the R1's for the rear channels of a 7.1 system? I have 4 R1's and an extra pair of B1's, and was wondering how switching to the B1's would sound?

yes, that is exactly what I'm using the B1s for. It works better in my case as my room is oddly shaped. I found that by placing my R1s on an angle behind me and the B1s on each side of my seating position work better for me. I have to put my R1s on stands as I don't really have a wall behind me and the walls beside me are not the same length " L" shape.

JamesVG81
09-11-11, 04:30 PM
I curently have 2xF2's, 1xC1 and 2xB1's for 5.1. I found 4xF2's for sale. Would it be over kill to have 6xF2's and a C1 for 7.1? Or should I just try to find 2 more B1's? I have a Yamaha rx-v3800 pushing them 140w x 7. Oh and my room is 20x12. Thanks

brandonnash
09-11-11, 05:33 PM
Having more matching speakers is more ideal in my book. If you found a good price on the f2's then buy them. Worse case you sell them later or make you a nice 2 channel system in another room.

Still wish klipsch didn't put athena out of business. They were/are good speakers for the money. Had a lot of compliments on my b1's over the years.

jproy13
09-11-11, 07:07 PM
I curently have 2xF2's, 1xC1 and 2xB1's for 5.1. I found 4xF2's for sale. Would it be over kill to have 6xF2's and a C1 for 7.1? Or should I just try to find 2 more B1's? I have a Yamaha rx-v3800 pushing them 140w x 7. Oh and my room is 20x12. Thanks

There is no such thing as "overkill" in my book:D I wouldn't want to be the C1 trying to keep up with this setup though.

jproy13
09-11-11, 07:13 PM
Still wish klipsch didn't put athena out of business. They were/are good speakers for the money.[/QUOTE]

Agreed! In my opinion, this is the exact reason that they did what they did.

brandonnash
09-11-11, 08:13 PM
Athena was smart and got into big box stores first. As a business move from their company it was smart. Then I would be willing to bet that their synergy line suffered so when the line was bought it made sense to put them out. From the klipsch end it may or may not have been a good move, but I don't have to like it.

JamesVG81
09-12-11, 09:25 AM
Guy wants 600 bucks for 4xF2's thats a little much isn't it ?

brandonnash
09-12-11, 09:27 AM
That's about half price from new. I'd shoot him a $400 offer and maybe he'll split the difference. Remind him they are several years old.

JamesVG81
09-12-11, 10:35 AM
Yea I only paid 120 a pair for mine new when I got them though work ;) Makes 100 a pice seam expensive lol

afrogt
09-12-11, 01:37 PM
Yea I only paid 120 a pair for mine new when I got them though work ;) Makes 100 a pice seam expensive lol

I got my F1's for $100/pr on clearance deal from Best Buy. That was totally lucky!

$600 for 4 F2's is probably a little too much since they're most likely 6-7 years old or more. $500 would probably be considered a fair deal. If you can get them for any less consider it a bargain.

jproy13
09-14-11, 04:54 AM
That's about half price from new. I'd shoot him a $400 offer and maybe he'll split the difference. Remind him they are several years old.

I got my F1's for $100/pr on clearance deal from Best Buy. That was totally lucky!

$600 for 4 F2's is probably a little too much since they're most likely 6-7 years old or more. $500 would probably be considered a fair deal. If you can get them for any less consider it a bargain.

I agree that it is a little expensive when compare to new (especially when they were on sale) but wouldn't you say that it would be a bit challenging to buy 4 new speakers of that caliber for $600 (or less)?

brandonnash
09-14-11, 06:33 AM
I do agree on that part. They were and still currently are a great value that doesn't exist elsewhere. You can always ask if he will take less and if not the asking price isn't horrible.

jproy13
09-26-11, 06:08 PM
Hey guys and gals,

Any of you mind sharing your opinion on a new receiver. I've always had Pioneers and thinking of venturing into Denon. Anybody would have some feedback on how they match with Athenas in general? I run the first Audition (AS-F2, B1, R1 and C1) series for my speakers.

Thanks

afrogt
09-26-11, 06:37 PM
they match well with Denon, Onkyo, HK, Newcastle and Yamaha. All receivers that I've used with the Athenas. I had a Denon with my Athenas a few months before I sold the speakers. Pretty much any current receiver work work fine and ones with room calibration is a plus.

jproy13
09-26-11, 07:09 PM
they match well with Denon, Onkyo, HK, Newcastle and Yamaha. All receivers that I've used with the Athenas. I had a Denon with my Athenas a few months before I sold the speakers. Pretty much any current receiver work work fine and ones with room calibration is a plus.

Thanks afrogt. So pretty much anything that's available out there. Could you direct me at the appropriate place for the Newcatles or do you have some thoughts on them. Hard to find info as Sherwood seems to be snob by lots.

Thanks,

P.S. I'm a fan, I've read pretty much all of your posts.

afrogt
09-26-11, 08:35 PM
You don't want to buy a Newcastle as they cost too much for what you get. Plus they don't have a HDMI 1.4 receiver out yet or one with networking. If you look at their website the newest model is the R-972. They're a little behind the times compared to their competitors. I just sold my 10 year old R-956 to a college student last week for $100. He got a great deal on a well built and powerful receiver as it was in excellent condition. The Newcastle was my least favorite ergonomically though. Didn't care for the remote and the front panel controls.

I'm sure Sherwood has improved a lot of the ergonomic issues with later receivers but they still cost a lot. The R-972 goes for $1800. Here is a review from last year and it still got dinged for ergonomics.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/sherwood-newcastle-r-972-av-receiver?page=0,1

Your guys A/V receivers cost a lot up there. Try to find one of the other brands on sale instead.

If you don't need networking this Denon AVR-891 might be all you need if you can find one.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-7-2-home-theater-receiver-avr-891-avr-891/10145894.aspx?path=6a07054ba1e66b0835fed839832af310en02

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-945-watt-7-2-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-avr-891-avr-891/10145894.aspx?path=506b8ddf5605ed4b58d7ebfc63433898en02

This Yamaha 7063 is a great deal too.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/yamaha-yamaha-665-watt-7-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-htr7063-b-htr7063-b/10154808.aspx?path=51beab39a3505fd0025a8b894c74f258en02

jproy13
09-27-11, 07:47 AM
Your guys A/V receivers cost a lot up there. Try to find one of the other brands on sale instead.

If you don't need networking this Denon AVR-891 might be all you need if you can find one.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-7-2-home-theater-receiver-avr-891-avr-891/10145894.aspx?path=6a07054ba1e66b0835fed839832af310en02

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-945-watt-7-2-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-avr-891-avr-891/10145894.aspx?path=506b8ddf5605ed4b58d7ebfc63433898en02

This Yamaha 7063 is a great deal too.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/yamaha-yamaha-665-watt-7-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-htr7063-b-htr7063-b/10154808.aspx?path=51beab39a3505fd0025a8b894c74f258en02[/QUOTE]

thanks for the info on Sherwood. Your are right, we are getting ding on the price of electronics here in the north. I can get from a specialized audio store here where I live a brand new Denon AVR-1911 for $299. Is that worth it in your opinion?

afrogt
09-27-11, 07:53 AM
The Denon 1911 is a great buy for $299! Jump on that deal!!!!

Viventis
09-28-11, 12:42 PM
The Athenas sound fine with most receivers but those F2's and the C1 like some power. I upgraded from a Yamaha 765 (95 watts/ch) to an Onkyo 809 (135 watts/ch) and the difference is very noticeable.

Hott Wheellzz
09-28-11, 03:06 PM
Hey guys I got a pair of AS-R1.2's still brand new in the box and I was wondering if anyone was interested in purchasing them
thanks I got them from a friend and I have no home theater setup so i can't use them please let me know.

jproy13
09-28-11, 05:19 PM
The Athenas sound fine with most receivers but those F2's and the C1 like some power. I upgraded from a Yamaha 765 (95 watts/ch) to an Onkyo 809 (135 watts/ch) and the difference is very noticeable.

You're right. They have made my poor little Pio 520 reach it's limits, that's why I'm looking at upgrading my receiver.

afrogt
09-28-11, 06:46 PM
Get something with a beefy power supply like Marantz or HK or higher end Onkyo. They'll work well with the Athena F2.

Viventis
09-28-11, 08:27 PM
I curently have 2xF2's, 1xC1 and 2xB1's for 5.1. I found 4xF2's for sale. Would it be over kill to have 6xF2's and a C1 for 7.1? Or should I just try to find 2 more B1's? I have a Yamaha rx-v3800 pushing them 140w x 7. Oh and my room is 20x12. ThanksSince the F2's and the B1's have the same high and mid range drivers, the F2's would only help with the ultra low end surround sound which, quite frankly, is next to non-existent. It would make for a killer all channel stereo music system.

Viventis
09-28-11, 08:33 PM
Hey guys I got a pair of AS-R1.2's still brand new in the box and I was wondering if anyone was interested in purchasing them
thanks I got them from a friend and I have no home theater setup so i can't use them please let me know.I collect Athena speakers and could use another pair of R1's for front high speakers for a 7.1 - 9.1 setup with my Onkyo 809. PM me with price info at viventis54@charter.net.

JamesVG81
09-28-11, 08:39 PM
Yea I think I'm just going to try and fine 2 more B1's. The F2's are going to up some of my seating room also if I try and use them for surrounds. I would only be able to use 2 seats in the front row. So small surounds it is.




Since the F2's and the B1's have the same high and mid range drivers, the F2's would only help with the ultra low end surround sound which, quite frankly, is next to non-existent. It would make for a killer all channel stereo music system.

And if you have any Athena speakers you want to sell let me know...Thanks

Viventis
09-28-11, 08:42 PM
You're right. They have made my poor little Pio 520 reach it's limits, that's why I'm looking at upgrading my receiver.Keep checking Amazon and Newegg for the once a month $699 deal on the Onkyo 809. I am in love with that receiver. The difference in the surround and center channel movie coverage (from my Yamaha 765) is like night and day.

Hott Wheellzz
09-29-11, 02:24 PM
anybody?

jproy13
09-29-11, 06:52 PM
Keep checking Amazon and Newegg for the once a month $699 deal on the Onkyo 809. I am in love with that receiver. The difference in the surround and center channel movie coverage (from my Yamaha 765) is like night and day.

I wish!!! I'm in Canada, so it's $1199 reg. price for me on Amazon.ca :mad:

jproy13
10-02-11, 06:51 PM
Well, I went with another Pioneer after all for my new receiver. Picked up a VSX-921. I personally really like how it blends with my Athena A.S. It's got similar specs than the 520 but I noticed that it draws twice the power. Haven't had a chance to test it yet but I'm sure it will do the job. Now my focus is on subwoofer to replace my 2 PSW10, but it's not easy to find good deal around here. Everything I want is only available south of me.

Hott Wheellzz
10-07-11, 12:12 AM
Hey guys still got my AS-R1.2's let me know if your interested

jproy13
11-15-11, 10:23 AM
Just picked up a couple of AS-F1 in excellent condition for dirt cheap!!:) Using them as surrounds and moved the AS-B1 as surround back. Loving it.
Now, all I need is to find another couple of AS-F1 so I can use 1of them for my center. The poor C1 seems completly lost.

JamesVG81
11-15-11, 10:44 AM
Nice man, I'm still looking for some more athena's for my rears for 7.1.

afrogt
11-15-11, 11:24 AM
Why dont you contact Hott Wheellzz who is selling his R1.2 surrounds?

Or get these B2's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Athena-audition-series-bookshelf-speakers-/260893514763?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3cbe771c0b

Yankees24
11-16-11, 09:09 AM
I have 2 pairs of AS B1 and the matching AS-C1. I've really been enjoying them for a few years now....Recently I've been getting the upgrade bug. Is there anything that can match it in quality but smaller in size ?

Yankees24
11-17-11, 09:42 AM
I'm running my B1's with a sub and I'm crossing them over at 120hz. Is this to high ?...it's sounds good to me.

jproy13
11-17-11, 10:18 AM
I'm running my B1's with a sub and I'm crossing them over at 120hz. Is this to high ?...it's sounds good to me.

Well that's up to you my friend:). It's not going to hurt anything as long as your sub is rated to go to 120Hz, wich I'm certain it is. The only problem with a xover this high is that you'll probably hear dialogue from your subwoofer.

I played with different xover for my movie setup and preffered the 80Hz setting as I discovered what "subwoofer localisation" meant when xovered higher. And that's particularly annoying if your subs are not in your front soundstage.

I personally would cross it at 80Hz if it's for movies or 100Hz if it's part of a 2.1 setup (just my preference) as your B1's are rated to go down to 60Hz.

cheers.

Yankees24
11-17-11, 11:09 AM
Well that's up to you my friend:). It's not going to hurt anything as long as your sub is rated to go to 120Hz, wich I'm certain it is. The only problem with a xover this high is that you'll probably hear dialogue from your subwoofer.

I played with different xover for my movie setup and preffered the 80Hz setting as I discovered what "subwoofer localisation" meant when xovered higher. And that's particularly annoying if your subs are not in your front soundstage.

I personally would cross it at 80Hz if it's for movies or 100Hz if it's part of a 2.1 setup (just my preference) as your B1's are rated to go down to 60Hz.

cheers.

Thanks....my sub is placed in the front sound stage. It's a velodyne cht-10. They seem to blend in perfectly.

bryansj
11-17-11, 11:21 AM
I just got a new TV and my wife is wanting it wall mounted. Her new plan is to reclaim floor space and mentioned going with wall mounted speakers. She's pretty much said to get something different, which I read as upgrade.

Before I go down that path, what do you think my speakers are worth? I have the following:

2x F2.2
1x C1.2
2x R1.2

Excellent condition.

JamesVG81
11-17-11, 12:20 PM
Let me know what you want for the R1.2's..

flipmac
12-28-11, 10:44 PM
Nice to see a few people are still enjoying their Athena speakers. I've had mine for about 4 years and still going strong.

My setup:
Front: Athena AS-F1.2, xover @ 60Hz
Center: Athena WS-60, xover @ 80Hz
Rears: Athena Point-5 Satellites, xover @ 80Hz
Sub: Athena AS-P6000 12"
Receiver: Harman/Kardon 3600

I was using the center channel from the Point-5 system, but replaced it with the much slimmer WS-60 when saw one on sale a few years back.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=232234&stc=1&d=1325132456
- Toshiba 55", Harman/Kardon 3600, custom HTPC and Athena AS-F1.2/WS-60

The placement isn't optimal but gotta stay within the wife's tolerances.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=232235&stc=1&d=1325132456
- Left front and sub being (partially) blocked by a couch.

In terms of bang for buck (especially for the amount I paid for mine), these speakers are hard to beat. Unfortunately, Athena speakers are no longer available and the company itself is basically non-existent. Damn you Klipsch!!!

That said, I've picked a pair of Energy RC-70 that might replace the AS-F1.2. Good idea?

afrogt
12-28-11, 10:48 PM
setup looks nice. That WS-60 isn't going to match very well with your RC-70s though.

teckademic
01-02-12, 02:15 AM
any current or previous owners ever upgrade their C1 to a different brand to match the F2s?

Tulpa
01-02-12, 03:17 AM
I think the only other brand that has an outside shot of matching is Energy.

jproy13
01-02-12, 05:46 AM
any current or previous owners ever upgrade their C1 to a different brand to match the F2s?

same situation. I have F2s in the front and the C1 isn't up to the task. I've been checking my local classified ads everyday to find a couple of F1 to replace the center.

brandonnash
01-02-12, 10:25 AM
You should get the craigslist app if you have a smartphone. Put in athena in the search and it will bring back any matches when they are posted. Saves time at the computer checking for them all the time.

I'd get a floor stander if they are available and can fit, but the bookshelves (as-b1) are a near perfect match if you need something smaller. Those can be found a bit easier.

bryansj
01-02-12, 11:29 AM
You should get the craigslist app if you have a smartphone. Put in athena in the search and it will bring back any matches when they are posted. Saves time at the computer checking for them all the time.

I'd get a floor stander if they are available and can fit, but the bookshelves (as-b1) are a near perfect match if you need something smaller. Those can be found a bit easier.

If you had the craigslist app you would see my Athena speakers pop up for sale. Now that I got my TV wall mounted I need to move on from my floor standing towers to get the WAF back on track.

jproy13
01-02-12, 12:23 PM
You should get the craigslist app if you have a smartphone. Put in athena in the search and it will bring back any matches when they are posted. Saves time at the computer checking for them all the time.

I'd get a floor stander if they are available and can fit, but the bookshelves (as-b1) are a near perfect match if you need something smaller. Those can be found a bit easier.

If you had the craigslist app you would see my Athena speakers pop up for sale. Now that I got my TV wall mounted I need to move on from my floor standing towers to get the WAF back on track.

thanks guys. For a reason or another, in these parts of the world, hardly anybody uses craigslist. It's a Kijiji kind of place I guess. They probably have an app that is similar though, I'll check it out. I was able to find 2 F2, 2 F1, 2 R1, several C1 and B1 in the past year, all within a few hours of drive, so I'm sure it's a question of time.

That's what I plan to do when I find a F1, wall mount my tv (40 inches of so) and put the F1 under the tv. Couple of audio rack on each side for the equipment and voila, all set. My wife is wonderful. I sold my Pio 921 and purchased a Denon 2311 and while waiting for my Denon, she was so put off by the tv speakers, she wanted me to go buy a receiver for a few days until I get mine.:D

jjudd050
01-02-12, 05:14 PM
I have someone selling some athena as-f2 speakers for $250 for the pair, I wanted to get thoughts on the quality of speakers and price? I have been looking at Polk 70's Energy 70 etc.

brandonnash
01-02-12, 06:18 PM
The f2's are great speakers. Try and look up some old reviews of them. Great value for the money.

afrogt
01-02-12, 09:05 PM
I have someone selling some athena as-f2 speakers for $250 for the pair, I wanted to get thoughts on the quality of speakers and price? I have been looking at Polk 70's Energy 70 etc.

$250/pr is a great price for those speakers. What would you be powering them with?

Which Energy 70 speakers? CF-70 or RC-70?

jjudd050
01-03-12, 07:38 AM
I will be powering with Pioneer 1021.

I had been looking at Energy CF-70, and Polk Monitor 70's

What type of center channel should I pair with something like these if I use the for HT as well as music. Or are they more of a music only type set?

Also... Would these suffice without a sub or would one need needed?

$250/pr is a great price for those speakers. What would you be powering them with?

Which Energy 70 speakers? CF-70 or RC-70?

brandonnash
01-03-12, 09:50 AM
I ran mine with a used paradigm monitor series center for a while and was surprised how well it matched up with the as-b1's. The as-f1's are about a spot on timbre match with the b1's so you may have a look for those also. The matching center (yes I bought the center channel too) didn't match exactly.

jjudd050
01-03-12, 09:56 AM
The seller was willing to drop his price to $200 for the pair, seems like a great deal. Would I be missing out not getting the Polk 70's for $100 more?

Sounds like the F2's center could be a pain in finding and matching

$250/pr is a great price for those speakers. What would you be powering them with?

Which Energy 70 speakers? CF-70 or RC-70?

jjudd050
01-03-12, 10:32 AM
Do you think my 1021 would have enough power for them?

$250/pr is a great price for those speakers. What would you be powering them with?

Which Energy 70 speakers? CF-70 or RC-70?

jproy13
01-03-12, 11:18 AM
If I may...

The seller was willing to drop his price to $200 for the pair, seems like a great deal. Would I be missing out not getting the Polk 70's for $100 more?

Sounds like the F2's center could be a pain in finding and matching

No doubt that it would be easier to go with Polks as they are still being manufactured.

it doesn't need to be the AS-C1 center. In fact, I recommend finding a couple of AS-B1 or AS-B2 bookshelves and use one for your center. They are a little easier to find and will do the same if not better job then the C1.

Do you think my 1021 would have enough power for them?

No doubt whatsoever. As a matter of fact, you will have more than you really need (depending on the size of your room) as the F2s are very sensitive at 93db, so yes, the 1021 will have enough juice. The whole Athena Audition line are very sensitive.

P.S. at $200, I would by them myself

jjudd050
01-03-12, 11:25 AM
Thanks, Great information!

Am i looking at similar sound quality (or better) with the Athena's? (as opposed to the polk 70's)?

If I may...



No doubt that it would be easier to go with Polks as they are still being manufactured.

it doesn't need to be the AS-C1 center. In fact, I recommend finding a couple of AS-B1 or AS-B2 bookshelves and use one for your center. They are a little easier to find and will do the same if not better job then the C1.



No doubt whatsoever. As a matter of fact, you will have more than you really need (depending on the size of your room) as the F2s are very sensitive at 93db, so yes, the 1021 will have enough juice. The whole Athena Audition line are very sensitive.

P.S. at $200, I would by them myself

jproy13
01-03-12, 11:54 AM
Thanks, Great information!

Am i looking at similar sound quality (or better) with the Athena's? (as opposed to the polk 70's)?

WARNING!! the following answer may be bias...:D

I had both at the same time, I had purchased the Athenas and then like you was wondering. I bought a whole set of Polks monitor series and ended up returning the Poks. Nothing wrong with Polks but I prefered the Athenas. To me, the sound had more "body" if you will.

For the center, there's nothing wrong per say for the AS-C1 (the matching center) but like many other Athena owners with F2 in the front, they are so good that the dedicated center as a had time keeping up. So if you buy the
F2, it gives you more flexibility. You can add a C1 or a B1 or B2 or, like I'm going to do as soon as I find some, another F2 or F1 for your center.

jjudd050
01-03-12, 12:47 PM
I don't this an F2 will fit on my mantle as a center so B1 or B2 it is. Sounds like I need to pull the trigger. too good a deal to pass up.

Now thoughts on a sub to match?

I don't think my energy take classic sub will do the trick. Been eyeing the Klipsch RW 12d but am willing to go another direction

WARNING!! the following answer may be bias...:D

I had both at the same time, I had purchased the Athenas and then like you was wondering. I bought a whole set of Polks monitor series and ended up returning the Poks. Nothing wrong with Polks but I prefered the Athenas. To me, the sound had more "body" if you will.

For the center, there's nothing wrong per say for the AS-C1 (the matching center) but like many other Athena owners with F2 in the front, they are so good that the dedicated center as a had time keeping up. So if you buy the
F2, it gives you more flexibility. You can add a C1 or a B1 or B2 or, like I'm going to do as soon as I find some, another F2 or F1 for your center.

jproy13
01-03-12, 12:55 PM
I don't this an F2 will fit on my mantle as a center so B1 or B2 it is. Sounds like I need to pull the trigger. too good a deal to pass up.

Now thoughts on a sub to match?

I don't think my energy take classic sub will do the trick. Been eyeing the Klipsch RW 12d but am willing to go another direction

the Klipsch gets great reviews here. I had 2 Bic F12 and they are really good with HT. I ordered 2 Premier Acoustic AP-120 which also gets great review. All of those subs can be ad for sub $200 in the States. The Polk Audio PSW505 is also a great contender.

Or you can go with ID subs, HSU, Epik, Rythmik etc...

jjudd050
01-04-12, 10:13 AM
Well I picked up the Athena F2's last night and they are in pristine condition. I haven't had a chance to try them out yet but looking forward to it.

So now I am looking to try and find a center channel. I looked on ebay and have found AS-B2.2 pair. Is there a difference in audition series and audition series 2?

Also thoughts on what a pair of these should run? Rather not overpay if I can help it

afrogt
01-04-12, 10:26 AM
Only in the color of the driver.

The original Audition series had black drivers while the Audition Series 2 has silver drivers. The original F2 was about 6 lbs heaver than the F2.2. But all accounts said they sound the same.

You can see the pictures and descriptions on the Athena website.
http://athenaspeakers.com/products/as-f2-specifications/

jjudd050
01-04-12, 10:32 AM
Gotcha, I just saw that on their website. The ebay seller is starting bids a basically $75 with shipping for a pair of AS-B2.2's. Not sure if this is a decent deal or not. ... And I just wanted to make sure they would match with the F2's (series 1) I just bought

Only in the color of the driver.

The original Audition series had black drivers while the Audition Series 2 has silver drivers. The original F2 was about 6 lbs heaver than the F2.2. But all accounts said they sound the same.

You can see the pictures and descriptions on the Athena website.
http://athenaspeakers.com/products/as-f2-specifications/

afrogt
01-04-12, 10:33 AM
That description of the athena bookshelf speakers is confusing. Are they B2's or B1?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Athena-AS-B2-2B-1-Bookshelf-Speakers-AUDITION-SERIES-LIGHTLY-USED-NO-RESERVE-/180787003337?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2a17bebfc9

the title says AS-B2 but the description says AS-B1-1. Find out exactly which ones they are.

afrogt
01-04-12, 10:38 AM
WARNING!! the following answer may be bias...:D

I had both at the same time, I had purchased the Athenas and then like you was wondering. I bought a whole set of Polks monitor series and ended up returning the Poks. Nothing wrong with Polks but I prefered the Athenas. To me, the sound had more "body" if you will.

For the center, there's nothing wrong per say for the AS-C1 (the matching center) but like many other Athena owners with F2 in the front, they are so good that the dedicated center as a had time keeping up. So if you buy the
F2, it gives you more flexibility. You can add a C1 or a B1 or B2 or, like I'm going to do as soon as I find some, another F2 or F1 for your center.

I totally agree the Athenas are better speakers than the Polk Monitors. Finding what you need may be a problem though.

jjudd050
01-04-12, 11:18 AM
I know!!! I have emailed the selling and they are going to post a pic of the model. I assume they mean ASB2.2 is my guess for now. They swear the model # though


Sellers response "In the back of speakers it clearly says as-b2.2b-1 will post a pic of theInfo in the back of speakers today"


That description of the athena bookshelf speakers is confusing. Are they B2's or B1?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Athena-AS-B2-2B-1-Bookshelf-Speakers-AUDITION-SERIES-LIGHTLY-USED-NO-RESERVE-/180787003337?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2a17bebfc9

the title says AS-B2 but the description says AS-B1-1. Find out exactly which ones they are.

jjudd050
01-05-12, 08:17 AM
Thoughts on what is a fair price for a set of AS B1 or 2's?

Any other speakers that would mix well as a center?

brandonnash
01-05-12, 08:50 AM
Thoughts on what is a fair price for a set of AS B1 or 2's?

Any other speakers that would mix well as a center?

A pair of those...no more than $100. I imagine they could possibly start going slightly up in price but nott much. To give an idea, 6 years ago I got 4 as-b1's and the c1 for $170 on closeout still new in box.

jproy13
01-05-12, 01:26 PM
A pair of those...no more than $100. I imagine they could possibly start going slightly up in price but nott much. To give an idea, 6 years ago I got 4 as-b1's and the c1 for $170 on closeout still new in box.

That's a freakin' steal in my books:eek:. One can pay what they are comfortable with, but the way I see it, even if one pays say $150, what can one get that compares for $150, well at least here where I live anyway.

Seamus.
01-07-12, 05:26 PM
Can anyone tell me a fair asking price for the following. I'm having a hard time finding used pricing for them. Thanks

4 B2s
1 AS-C1
AS-P300

brandonnash
01-07-12, 08:37 PM
You're selling them? If so I'd say as a whole ask $300-400 and accept a bit less to give some haggle room. Have a bottom line in mind.

valonzo
01-07-12, 10:50 PM
Reposting for sale pm if interested

I am selling my 5.1 Athena surround sound system, the reason I am selling them is I'd like to upgrade now. Besides that, they are actually too big for my space anyhow. I spent a lot of time reviewing speakers before I purchased them about 4 years ago. I would give them a condition score of 8 out of 10. They are in a non smoking house as well.

Make offer, local pickup only ventura county calif email vince@tattmeup.com


The speakers included in the set are the following, 5 total

(2) The AS-F2 Speaker is the flagship of the AUDITION series, designed for use in larger rooms or systems. A recommended component from StereoPhile Magazine, the AS-F2 has incredible bass response, and articulate midrange and highs. Utilizing athena's 1" Teteron dome tweeter and Two 8" Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers provide huge sound in a price you won't believe! The AS-F2 is fully magnetically shielded, so it is ready to perform in your Audio Video system.
Power handling is a huge 250 watts for each speaker, and with its high 93dB efficiency will fill even the largest of homes with clear powerful sound.

(1) The AS-C1 is the matching center channel for any Audition based Home Theater System. The small size of the AS-C1 allows flexible placement, and it is magnetically shielded, so placement can be above, below or beside your TV. The AS-C1 is also a multi purpose speaker, that can be oriented vertically, so, you can utilize the AS-C1 as a center channel, a pair as left and right speakers, or you can use three of them across the front of your home theatre in an LCR configuration for precise tonal matching.
Featuring dual 5-1/2 Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers, and the athena 1" Teteron tweeter, the AS-C1 is capable of handling 150 watts of full range power. The AS-C1 in its bass reflex enclosure will astound you with its clarity, bass response, and sound output capabilities.

(2) The AS-R1 Speaker, which recieved the Sound and Vision’s Reviewer’s Choice Award when it was orginally introduced, is a bi-pole rear channel speaker designed to complement your Audition Series speakers in a home theater system. The AS-R1 is primarily designed to be wall mounted, it even comes with a simple and versatile mounting system already attached to the speakers. Additionally, there’s an insert for an optional wall mount bracket called the Macromount that will provide additional flexibility in your installation if required. Dual 1" Teteron dome tweeters in a bi-polar configuration will provide clear extended high frequencies, and the Injection Molded Polypropylene 5-1/2" woofer provides authoritative bass response down to 80Hz. The AS-R1 is recommended for use with any Audition or SCT Series product. The AS-R1 is finished in silver, an exact match to the Audition series front baffles. The AS-R1 it comes with a full faced, black cloth removable grill.

bryansj
01-07-12, 10:56 PM
I have the same stuff for sale, but didn't post it because of forum rules.

jjudd050
01-08-12, 09:02 AM
If anyone is willing to sell me apair of B1 or B2's PM me. I am having one hell of a time finding a pair.

If i don't use a C1 or can't find a B1 (or 2 for my center channel) does anyone have thoughts on what could match well?
I have heard that some people have used a Polk CS2 as a center


I have the same stuff for sale, but didn't post it because of forum rules.

Seamus.
01-08-12, 11:25 AM
You're selling them? If so I'd say as a whole ask $300-400 and accept a bit less to give some haggle room. Have a bottom line in mind.

Yes, I'm the one selling. I loved the set but moved up to a B&W setup. Wish I had another room to put the Athenas in.

Thanks for the info.

JamesVG81
01-08-12, 02:38 PM
I also need a pair of b1's or b2's so I can go 7.1. If any one has some let me know I'll take them off your hands. Thanks..

jjudd050
01-09-12, 08:43 AM
Found a pair of B1's last night and ordered a Bic F12. I figured worst case I can order another Bic F12 and if I don't love the setup I'll upgrade in a few years when the wife won't care as much.

This now will leave me with the following setup
Pioneer 1021
2 F2's Fronts
B1 as center
Bic F12 sub
Energy Take Classics as rears.

I would upgrade the rears up I would have to wall mount and I think the wife would flip if I had a speaker that size hung on the wall LOL

jproy13
01-09-12, 09:06 AM
Found a pair of B1's last night and ordered a Bic F12. I figured worst case I can order another Bic F12 and if I don't love the setup I'll upgrade in a few years when the wife won't care as much.

This now will leave me with the following setup
Pioneer 1021
2 F2's Fronts
B1 as center
Bic F12 sub
Energy Take Classics as rears.

I would upgrade the rears up I would have to wall mount and I think the wife would flip if I had a speaker that size hung on the wall LOL

If I was a betting man, I would bet that you are going to like it a great deal...adding another F12 will do nothing but make you smile more.:)

jproy13
01-16-12, 05:40 PM
Found a pair of B1's last night and ordered a Bic F12. I figured worst case I can order another Bic F12 and if I don't love the setup I'll upgrade in a few years when the wife won't care as much.

This now will leave me with the following setup
Pioneer 1021
2 F2's Fronts
B1 as center
Bic F12 sub
Energy Take Classics as rears.

I would upgrade the rears up I would have to wall mount and I think the wife would flip if I had a speaker that size hung on the wall LOL

how are you making out with your setup? how is the B1 performing as a center?

jjudd050
01-17-12, 09:02 AM
Delays with the holidays from Ebay, so it should be here today. Which is good since my center cannot keep up with the fronts right now. I'll let you know in a day or two, but pretty excited!

how are you making out with your setup? how is the B1 performing as a center?

netx9nine
01-17-12, 11:41 AM
Well, Im looking for a pair of point-5 satellites or even a pair of WS-15's if anyone has some to sell.


-Matt

afrogt
01-17-12, 12:14 PM
Well, Im looking for a pair of point-5 satellites or even a pair of WS-15's if anyone has some to sell.


-Matt

Some here on Amazon. I would check with the seller to make sure if this is a single speaker or pair pricing.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0009IK1AM/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1326823825&sr=8-2&condition=used

Tulpa
01-17-12, 08:07 PM
Well, Im looking for a pair of point-5 satellites or even a pair of WS-15's if anyone has some to sell.


-Matt

I have two pairs of WS-15s for sale. PM me and I'll send you my Craigslist listing so you can see pictures.

nonametofame
02-08-12, 01:28 PM
I have a full Athena set I'm considering selling soon. A pair of AS-B2s, AS-B1s, and the ASC1 center. PM with details.

Jeffer65
02-22-12, 11:32 AM
I've been using S3s for my mains for years, but the center & surrounds don't match. I see some Audition series up on ebay and it appears nomanetofame may sell a full setup. Would they be a good match?
Apparently Athenas don't show up on Audiogon.

jproy13
02-22-12, 03:43 PM
I've been using S3s for my mains for years, but the center & surrounds don't match. I see some Audition series up on ebay and it appears nomanetofame may sell a full setup. Would they be a good match?
Apparently Athenas don't show up on Audiogon.

Probably not. You'd be better serve by getting his/her full setup, or at least a couple of B1s or B2s and the SC-1 and using your S3s as surround.

brandonnash
02-22-12, 06:17 PM
I've been using S3s for my mains for years, but the center & surrounds don't match. I see some Audition series up on ebay and it appears nomanetofame may sell a full setup. Would they be a good match?
Apparently Athenas don't show up on Audiogon.

Athenas aren't expensive enough to have respect on audiogon. Problem is that most of them haven't compared them to their higher dollar speakers and they should have in the first place. Could have saved a bunch of money. But at the same time they wouldn't have the bragging rights if they say they paid so little for speakers.

jproy13
02-22-12, 06:27 PM
Athenas aren't expensive enough to have respect on audiogon. Problem is that most of them haven't compared them to their higher dollar speakers and they should have in the first place. Could have saved a bunch of money. But at the same time they wouldn't have the bragging rights if they say they paid so little for speakers.

Well said.

Jeffer65
02-23-12, 11:34 AM
Really would not want to demote the S3 to surround status so I don't know. I'm using an old cheap Cerwin Vega center and I'm not sure it is keeping up, but I don't have anything else to compare it with. I'll have to try "phantom center" mode and see what that sounds like.
The Audition series must be that much different so it would not match.

I remember when I bought the S3s new and A/B comparing them to some Phase Tech speaker that were twice the price.

Thanks for the help.

Seamus.
02-23-12, 08:20 PM
Athenas aren't expensive enough to have respect on audiogon. Problem is that most of them haven't compared them to their higher dollar speakers and they should have in the first place. Could have saved a bunch of money. But at the same time they wouldn't have the bragging rights if they say they paid so little for speakers.

I love my Athena setup and it's tough letting it go for well below what I think it's worth but I wouldnt choose them over what I replaced them with and don't consider them high dollar. I did compare and don't think they were as good. As for bragging rights I don't know anyone who would know either company so doesn't matter.

jproy13
02-23-12, 08:24 PM
Really would not want to demote the S3 to surround status so I don't know. I'm using an old cheap Cerwin Vega center and I'm not sure it is keeping up, but I don't have anything else to compare it with. I'll have to try "phantom center" mode and see what that sounds like.
The Audition series must be that much different so it would not match.

I remember when I bought the S3s new and A/B comparing them to some Phase Tech speaker that were twice the price.

Thanks for the help.

Actually, after more "looking at it", I take it back. Both have the exact same tweeter and all other specs are very similar so it would be pretty close.

What receiver do you have? I would venture to say that a good room correction software (Audyssey) would help to make it even closer.

It would be better than the center you have now, that I'm confident of.

Jeffer65
02-23-12, 08:40 PM
No Audyssey, but it does have room correction software. Actually using a Parasound HCA-1000 to power the mains and the Yamaha handles the center & the rears. I have it in phantom right now and can hear the difference.

I found the Athena website and was looking at the specs. I also noticed the tweeters are the same between the SCT and Audition series.

Glimmerman911
02-26-12, 08:26 AM
I have F2.2 fronts, and a C1.2 Center. As discussed often, the C1.2 cannot keep up.

I have a spare F1.2, but would have to turn it sideways on a 13" stand to use it as a center because it is too tall for my projector screen.

Is this a terrible idea, or a good idea!?

I also have spare B2.2, and B1.2 but I don't think those will perform any better.

Tulpa
02-27-12, 12:53 PM
I'd go "phantom center" if you find the C1.2 inadequate.

I wouldn't turn a floorstander on its side. Really, even a purpose built horizontal center is a compromise.

jproy13
02-27-12, 07:59 PM
Aside a little more output, you wouldn't gain much. If you could put it vertical like it was design to, then, you would have quite the front stage. You should give the B2s a try, someting tells me that you would like.

afrogt
02-27-12, 08:05 PM
I have F2.2 fronts, and a C1.2 Center. As discussed often, the C1.2 cannot keep up.

I have a spare F1.2, but would have to turn it sideways on a 13" stand to use it as a center because it is too tall for my projector screen.

Is this a terrible idea, or a good idea!?

I also have spare B2.2, and B1.2 but I don't think those will perform any better.

You've got absolutely nothing to lose by trying the B2.2 since you already have it in your possession! Use it!

Glimmerman911
02-27-12, 09:41 PM
You've got absolutely nothing to lose by trying the B2.2 since you already have it in your possession! Use it!

Will do, thank you for the suggestion.

primetimeguy
02-27-12, 09:57 PM
Will do, thank you for the suggestion.

I use F2s as fronts with B2 as center,much better than the C2.

Glimmerman911
02-27-12, 10:06 PM
I use F2s as fronts with B2 as center,much better than the C2.

I will definitely have to try it, thank you.

jkornerup
02-27-12, 11:48 PM
Speaking of the weakness of the C1s as the center, what are some alternatives the you guys have used for the center?

Jacob

2x AS F2 (mains)
2x AS B2 (rears)
1x AS P400 (sub)
1x AS C1 (center)
2x AS B1 (height)

Onkyo TXNR807

JamesVG81
03-08-12, 05:21 PM
Looking for a pair of B2's or B1's if any has any for sale send me a PM.

afrogt
03-08-12, 05:31 PM
There are some B1's on ebay that nobody has bid on yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATHENA-AS-B1-BOOKSHELF-SPEAKERS-/230756285465?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3 D63%26clkid%3D6866404005868183213

And another pair here that still has 3 days left.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/pair-of-Athena-Audition-series-Speakers-/110836610338?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item19ce607522

JamesVG81
03-08-12, 06:09 PM
I'll also take some F1's or F2's if your close to NC.

zoman504
03-13-12, 07:11 PM
Just a heads up, I'm currently selling a pair of Athena f2's and the Athena C1 center speaker on eBay. Center is in great condition, F2's have minor cosmetic damage from shipping, but work excellent. Selling for cheap due to moving soon.

JamesVG81
03-13-12, 07:40 PM
And you would be 8 hours away from me :(...

zoman504
03-14-12, 07:09 AM
And you would be 8 hours away from me :(...

I might be willing to ship if no one buys. I'll check back after the auction with an update.

valonzo
03-18-12, 05:37 PM
Need your opinions please, is 500$ a reasonable offer for this setup in good 8 of 10 condition?

The speakers included in the set are the following, 5 total

(2) The AS-F2 Speaker is the flagship of the AUDITION series, designed for use in larger rooms or systems. A recommended component from StereoPhile Magazine, the AS-F2 has incredible bass response, and articulate midrange and highs. Utilizing athena's 1" Teteron dome tweeter and Two 8" Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers provide huge sound in a price you won't believe! The AS-F2 is fully magnetically shielded, so it is ready to perform in your Audio Video system.
Power handling is a huge 250 watts for each speaker, and with its high 93dB efficiency will fill even the largest of homes with clear powerful sound.

(1) The AS-C1 is the matching center channel for any Audition based Home Theater System. The small size of the AS-C1 allows flexible placement, and it is magnetically shielded, so placement can be above, below or beside your TV. The AS-C1 is also a multi purpose speaker, that can be oriented vertically, so, you can utilize the AS-C1 as a center channel, a pair as left and right speakers, or you can use three of them across the front of your home theatre in an LCR configuration for precise tonal matching.
Featuring dual 5-1/2 Injection Molded Polypropylene woofers, and the athena 1" Teteron tweeter, the AS-C1 is capable of handling 150 watts of full range power. The AS-C1 in its bass reflex enclosure will astound you with its clarity, bass response, and sound output capabilities.

(2) The AS-R1 Speaker, which recieved the Sound and Vision’s Reviewer’s Choice Award when it was orginally introduced, is a bi-pole rear channel speaker designed to complement your Audition Series speakers in a home theater system. The AS-R1 is primarily designed to be wall mounted, it even comes with a simple and versatile mounting system already attached to the speakers. Additionally, there’s an insert for an optional wall mount bracket called the Macromount that will provide additional flexibility in your installation if required. Dual 1" Teteron dome tweeters in a bi-polar configuration will provide clear extended high frequencies, and the Injection Molded Polypropylene 5-1/2" woofer provides authoritative bass response down to 80Hz. The AS-R1 is recommended for use with any Audition or SCT Series product. The AS-R1 is finished in silver, an exact match to the Audition series front baffles. The AS-R1 it comes with a full faced, black cloth removable grill.

jproy13
03-18-12, 05:45 PM
^^^
I'd go for it. Of course, my opinion may be bias :D. I know that some would say that they were only $xx 6,7 years ago, but in my opinion, it would be difficult to get the same or close to same quality new for $500. The AS-F2s are very competitive for a "budget" tower.

cheers

brandonnash
03-18-12, 06:24 PM
Same here. I think that's a good price. Leave a little wiggle room for negotiation thought. Those as-r1's are pretty rare actually. Hardly anyone bought those. I always wanted a pair to try out with my b1's.

jproy13
03-18-12, 06:52 PM
Same here. I think that's a good price. Leave a little wiggle room for negotiation thought. Those as-r1's are pretty rare actually. Hardly anyone bought those. I always wanted a pair to try out with my b1's.

oh, I had 2 pairs and sold them he he

PowerCreep
03-18-12, 07:06 PM
Funny, I was just about to look up this thread and ask about selling my set. They are in pristine condition and same as the above; F2, C1, and R1. My set is at least a 8/10 if not higher. I think there is one small scuff on the front of one of the towers. I want to get rid of them, but I'm not interested in shipping them because of the cost involved. Also, I realize selling them locally may be tough (Little Rock, AR). I was thinking of putting them on Craigslist Dallas, Texarkana, Memphis, and Tulsa and would just deliver them halfway or right to the border of the state myself (2 hr drive in any direction). I know gas is costly, but from those areas most people could meet me halfway and still save a ton. Plus, I'd have piece of mind knowing they'd be delivered carefully and not tossed about.

So...if anyone is reading this from one of those areas and wants to throw $500 my way....!! :)

valonzo
03-19-12, 09:55 AM
Same here. I think that's a good price. Leave a little wiggle room for negotiation thought. Those as-r1's are pretty rare actually. Hardly anyone bought those. I always wanted a pair to try out with my b1's.

Ok I offered them at 400 and threw in a Dayton 12 sub, seems like a smoking deal to me

jproy13
03-19-12, 09:57 AM
Ok I offered them at 400 and threw in a Dayton 12 sub, seems like a smoking deal to me

That setup would shame anything at that price and then some.

valonzo
03-29-12, 11:03 AM
That setup would shame anything at that price and then some.

Thanks

amazonracer
05-18-12, 10:25 PM
Before I get my new sub, I have been trying a couple of older subs that have been sitting around. One is the Athena As P400. Seems pretty good but my question is the front frequency knob. The website says you match the model number of your front Athena speakers. I don't have Athena I have Boston Acoustics. The numbers go as high as 120. Should I put the frequency at the highest at 120, 100, 80, half? My Yamaha receiver is set at 80 hz I think. Thanks for any advice.

brandonnash
05-18-12, 11:49 PM
What's the lower frequency response for your boston's? I'd set it a little higher than that. If you don't know what it is I would start at 100 hz and work your way down. Unless they are very small speakers then I would put it on 120 and leave it.

amazonracer
05-19-12, 12:10 AM
What's the lower frequency response for your boston's? I'd set it a little higher than that. If you don't know what it is I would start at 100 hz and work your way down. Unless they are very small speakers then I would put it on 120 and leave it.

I'm not sure but they are not small. They are 965's towers if that helps. Actually powered subwoofer in them. I spilt the difference a bit and set at 80-90. Is there a problem being to low than to high? I will see if I can find a old manual. This are 10+ years old. Thanks

brandonnash
05-19-12, 01:07 AM
On the sub itself it won't make any difference as far as harming the sub. For your entire system playback you could potentially have a null in frequency response if it is set too low. Once you find out the lowest frequency your speakers can play, for conversation sake let's say 60 hz, I would set at 60 and possibly higher than that. That's just a starting point though. The placement of your main speakers can have an ill effect on the sound. Keeping with the same 60 hz scenario, if you're not getting good response from your mains because of your placement you may once again have a null. Setting up a sub correctly can be very time consuming.

amazonracer
05-19-12, 09:58 AM
On the sub itself it won't make any difference as far as harming the sub. For your entire system playback you could potentially have a null in frequency response if it is set too low. Once you find out the lowest frequency your speakers can play, for conversation sake let's say 60 hz, I would set at 60 and possibly higher than that. That's just a starting point though. The placement of your main speakers can have an ill effect on the sound. Keeping with the same 60 hz scenario, if you're not getting good response from your mains because of your placement you may once again have a null. Setting up a sub correctly can be very time consuming.

Don't I know it now. Thanks, I will try different settings but so far when I turn up the volume, the sound is deep and clean. In your opinion and assuming the placement is correct, would a more expensive ID sub in the $500 range or even a lower priced 15 inch with maximum output be worth the upgrade as the sub is in a very large downstairs family room but open to the kitchen, LR, DR, etc. However, the TV viewing and speakers are in a corner of the downstairs, approx. 15 x 20 x 10 ft ceilings+-.

brandonnash
05-19-12, 01:48 PM
Without a doubt. While I loved the sound of the athena speakers, their subs always left something to be desired. Was mostly extension and output, but the sound to me wasn't incredibly clean.

Most of the ID brands have good subs in the $500 range. A better option is diy if you're even the least bit handy with tools.

amazonracer
05-19-12, 10:51 PM
Without a doubt. While I loved the sound of the athena speakers, their subs always left something to be desired. Was mostly extension and output, but the sound to me wasn't incredibly clean.

Most of the ID brands have good subs in the $500 range. A better option is diy if you're even the least bit handy with tools.

Thanks for all your insight. Just having trouble pulling the trigger on another $500. So far the 400 seems as good as any sub in the price range of $150-$250. It looks pretty good and I really like the controls in the front. One thing I think that makes the overall sound good is the 8 inch subs in my fronts and the BA VR12 is an amazing center in my opinion.