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Walter L.
10-28-05, 01:06 PM
"Masters of Horrors" is a series of about 13 new short horror movies by known horror directors over 13 weeks, premiering on consecutive Fridays (but playing Fri, Sat and Sun).

A lot of info at the website:

http://www.sho.com/site/mastersofhorror/home.do

chap
10-28-05, 01:30 PM
Good catch. I'm going to go add this to my DVR now.

coolstrategist
10-28-05, 01:42 PM
The key thing to note here though is that the "Master's of Horrors" is a series of about 13 new short horror movies by known horror directors over 13 weeks, premiering on consecutive Fridays (but playing Fri, Sat and Sun).

I know you knew this Walter but wanted to get it in the thread...

Walter L.
10-28-05, 01:51 PM
The key thing to note here though is that the "Master's of Horrors" is a series of about 13 new short horror movies by known horror directors over 13 weeks, premiering on consecutive Fridays (but playing Fri, Sat and Sun).

I know you knew this Walter but wanted to get it in the thread...
Good summary!!! I'm adding it to my original post so people know what we're talking about.

archiguy
10-28-05, 02:05 PM
This sounds great! Some real giants of the genre are participating in these little 1-hour scarefests. They are director-inspired, so each guy will make a little film that showcases the story in "his style".

gshipley
10-28-05, 04:12 PM
I have been looking foward to this for a month now...

Michael Whan
10-28-05, 07:59 PM
I finally have some exciting horror on DirecTV to look forward to. I've been bummed since DISH got Monsters HD and The Horror Channel.

winman42
10-28-05, 08:17 PM
I saw a great presentation about this during the San Diego ComicCon. They had a number of
the famous directors in attendance. SHould be a very cool series.

Win

coolstrategist
10-29-05, 12:36 AM
So how was the first one tonight? PQ and content?

I saved it to my dvr but have not watched it yet. Did it meet the marketing hype?

John Mason
10-29-05, 09:27 AM
So how was the first one tonight? PQ and content?

Pretty grisly: About a woman, survivalist-trained by her militaristic husband, who takes on a nut-case demon-style serial killer who prefers 'preserving' his many kills in the wilderness. Average PQ, IMO, considering the mostly darker settings. A short segment before the 60-minute film showed the directors at a dinner meeting enthusiastically outlining their horror favorites.

I'd just finished watching the equally grisly "Toolbox Murders" on Showtime with a curiously similar plot--except with a naive woman teacher (horror-movie style), naturally armed only with a flashlight, as the protagonist at a old L.A. apartment building where tenants disappear. -- John

flint350
10-29-05, 11:11 AM
I thought the PQ was only average, certainly not "here's what an HDTV can do" demo kind of stuff. Worse, I thought the story was only average - especially considering the hype and "masters" theme. For me, it was too formulaic, highly implausible in places and utterly predictable. It left me far less enthusiastic about seeing the next one. Nothing special, ymmv.

Daryl L
10-29-05, 11:50 AM
I really enjoyed lastnights episode. It was enteresting, fun and kind of exciting to me. But the preview of next weeks episode didn't seem too apealing to me.

winman42
10-29-05, 12:24 PM
I found it pretty good. Sure the formulaic woman in distress theme was there. But the flashbacks to here learning some surivial techniques was unique. And of course she go to use these skills to help fend off the serial killer. And the ending was a suprise to me at least.
I didnt se that one coming, which was nice.

Looking forward to the others.

Win

rcraigiii
10-29-05, 02:12 PM
That dang thing gave me a nightmare last night!!! Man, I'm getting soft.

bobby94928
10-29-05, 02:16 PM
It had a great 5.1 soundtrack. LFE thumped in all the right places and surrounds were very good. I'm watching all of these!!!

dm145
10-29-05, 03:16 PM
I enjoyed it last night and looking foward to the next 12.
Reminds me of the series "Tales from the Cript" and "Creepshow"

gutwrencher
10-29-05, 08:22 PM
I'd just finished watching the equally grisly "Toolbox Murders" on Showtime with a curiously similar plot--except with a naive woman teacher (horror-movie style), naturally armed only with a flashlight, as the protagonist at a old L.A. apartment building where tenants disappear. -- John

I made it through the film out of respect for it's fine director. But it bored me to tears. The hanging sheets of plastic were the only eerie moments for me.

As for MOH...last nights episode was decent PQ wise...outstanding sound wise....and more boredom. Younger horror fans will eat it up. Older fans will yawn. I know that future episodes are the ones to see, so I'll forgive last nights waste of an hour.

I should have just kept watching my new dvd of The Bird With the Crystal Plumage.:)

turls
10-30-05, 09:34 AM
I'm just glad there is actually a horror anthology series again. These have been gone from the premium channels for too long!

Loved seeing the tall man from Phantasm again (Angus Scrimm, the old man in the wheelchair).

Walter L.
10-30-05, 01:45 PM
I watched the 1st episode last night and I thought it was great. Looking foward for next weeend!!!

patrickpiteo
10-30-05, 08:30 PM
Pretty good story. PQ was so so.. Too many dark scenes. Pretty creepy stuff and hubby got what he deserved if you ask me...

Gary Murrell
10-31-05, 01:03 AM
PQ was great stuff on Dish, great story and sound was great

while viewing this ep., I couldn't stop thinking, Dude this chick is not wearing any undies :D

very very good delivery, I will be viewing all 13 and I usually hate the Horrow genre, too cheedar for my taste

-Gary

talbain
10-31-05, 06:12 AM
i thought it was pretty excellent. and wow it was cool to see angus scrimm again, though i didn't recognize him at all lol. really looking forward to the other stories, and the lineup of directors they have doing these stories is unmatched.

i'll tell you what, i was just complaining to my wife that there was nothing of interest to me on SHO, and this series just bought me a few more months of the service.

jrusnak
10-31-05, 11:32 AM
Aside from the additional content freedom, I found this show better written and more entertaining than any of the network (SUPERNATURAL, NIGHT STALKER, etc.) offerings. I'll be watching every episode.

gshipley
10-31-05, 12:03 PM
I thought the first show was absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to see the rest.

PooperScooper
10-31-05, 01:46 PM
I was somewhat surprised at the "average" PQ. The story was ok and the highlight, as somebody else mentioned, was seeing Angus.

larry

trgraphics
10-31-05, 05:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing the rest. I agree that it's at least better than whats on the networks.

CPanther95
10-31-05, 07:22 PM
Aside from the additional content freedom

Which they failed to fully exploit.

Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. ;)

HDTVChallenged
10-31-05, 08:01 PM
Now, now that just makes it more difficult to port to syndication in the future :)

winman42
10-31-05, 08:05 PM
Ah, coould we be talking about 'Product Value'? As in, a lil T & A?

Obviously this will debut on DVD eventually, but i wonder if they shot cleaner
versions, so they can get it shown on regular tv eventually?

Win

CPanther95
10-31-05, 08:14 PM
It would have to be cut significantly anyway, if syndicated. They also have the option of a zoom in like they did for Alyssa Milano/Outer Limits. Regardless, give us the goods and worry about the basic cable channels down the road.

They're clueless anyway, I just watched Hellraiser on basic cable (AMC maybe ?) and you saw almost all the graphic horror scenes (hooks in the cheek, etc.) but they bleeped - actually blanked - the word "bitch"??? How can you possibly take into account the many permutations of censor rules all these channels follow, or will follow?

talbain
10-31-05, 09:25 PM
well i'm glad there was no nudity. it doesn't add anything to the horror and alienates segments of the audience. i understand the episode directed by john landis is pretty racy anyway, so don't worry, you'll get your fill of boobies...

Jimbo Moran
10-31-05, 09:58 PM
well i'm glad there was no nudity. it doesn't add anything to the horror .....

It would have if Angus Scrimm had been nude. :)

talbain
11-01-05, 02:35 AM
lol yes i suppose it would

Judy Y
11-03-05, 03:04 PM
Can anyone identify the song and artist for the tune played at the beginning and end of the first ep? I looked in the credits and did not see it listed.

Thanks in advance.... (I did a search using a guess on the title and came up empty.)



Judy

coolstrategist
11-03-05, 04:55 PM
So far this is all I could find:

"MAIN TITLE MUSIC BY: EDWARD SHEARMUR"

turls
11-04-05, 06:10 AM
well i'm glad there was no nudity. it doesn't add anything to the horror and alienates segments of the audience.

Alienates segments of the audience? The horror genre audience? You are kidding aren't you?

In any case, now that this was mentioned I'm surprised too. I guess it is only HBO that makes sure they get nudity in every premier of every big series they have.

winman42
11-04-05, 10:58 PM
Well, that one was pretty interesting. Love the Miskatonic University tie in. Makes sense from the director if Re-Animator.

Win

gutwrencher
11-04-05, 11:04 PM
I liked tonights episode much more than the first. The first 20min crawled but then pretty much all hell broke loose. Good amount of blood spillage and any witch than can raise my woody is ok by me. ;)

Next weeks looks ok....but I really did like this one.

talbain
11-04-05, 11:13 PM
Alienates segments of the audience? The horror genre audience? You are kidding aren't you?


you are aware that there are other people besides males aged 18-45 that watch horror movies, aren't you? i know several women who find blatant nudity in movies to be a huge turn off, in horror films or otherwise...

i forgot the new episode was on tonight. good thing they play it throughout the weekend...

CPanther95
11-04-05, 11:45 PM
Blatant nudity is a long standing tradition in the horror genre. It may not make it scarier, but it certainly makes it better. ;)

talbain
11-05-05, 04:24 AM
nudity tends to make everything better, i wholeheartedly agree. i just suggest that there are those who do not share this opinion and are/were happy that SHO didn't resort to it in this series yet (though i haven't seen tonight's episode yet).

PooperScooper
11-05-05, 09:23 AM
I liked last night's episode better than the first also, especially the ending. Nudity was there, but I wouldn't call it gratuitous.

larry

turls
11-07-05, 11:14 AM
Probably the same ones that think "The Village" is horror . . . easy way to find out, ask them what their favorite horror movies are. Probably a lot of "horror-lite" and suspense on that list. Also, "Tales from the Crypt" did ok with a lot of gore and nudity (not counting the latest silly AMC versions).

you are aware that there are other people besides males aged 18-45 that watch horror movies, aren't you? i know several women who find blatant nudity in movies to be a huge turn off, in horror films or otherwise...

Missy
11-10-05, 11:09 PM
I was wondering this, too, and a quick lyric search gave me:

"If Ever" by Gratitude

google 'gratitude music' for their website.


Can anyone identify the song and artist for the tune played at the beginning and end of the first ep? I looked in the credits and did not see it listed.

Thanks in advance.... (I did a search using a guess on the title and came up empty.)



Judy

WiFi-Spy
11-11-05, 01:48 AM
the witch one really caught me of guard ;) looked awesome on fellow AVSer Darinp2's H79 :)

talbain
11-11-05, 11:51 PM
well, how was tonight's episode? i'm a pretty big fan of toby hooper so my expectations are high. finally caught episode 2 tonight, and surprisingly i loved it. i didn't expect much as i thought re-animator was a horrible film, but once again i was proven wrong. great stuff, this series

TheRock
11-12-05, 02:39 AM
I have been really disappointed so far. I have seen all of them except for the first one "Incident On and Off a Mountain Road". I have it on disk and will probably watch it soon.

I have yet to see anything really scary. Just f*cked up stuff that is a bit disturbing.

Plenty of gratuitous nudity in tonights episode "Dance of the Dead". Unfortunately the main character (the one I actually wanted to see nude) didn't show anything. I can see why these are made for cable. They lack the charm and campy humor that most horror movies possess. Hopefully future episodes will be better.

As far as picture quality. Decent for the demanding things they are showing (fast movements, flashing lighting, etc...) but I did experience some pixelation on some scenes.

It is kind of sad when a show brags about a A- rating from an unknown source. So far I would give it a C-. I would give it a D but the special effects and acting have been decent.

CPanther95
11-12-05, 08:15 AM
Last night's episode was a waste of time. IMO.

Gary Murrell
11-12-05, 08:26 AM
Panther said it, the 3rd episode sucked ass, the first 2 were light-years better

This series is exactly the way I like Horror(which is basically a stupid genre that I do not like at all) these stories on the other hand are great Horror stuff, nothing campy and "Made For Teen" garbage

HD picture quality was superb on all 3

-Gary

Daryl L
11-12-05, 11:07 AM
I liked the first 2. Lastnights episode was just bad (I'm being very easy on my comment of lastnights).

archiguy
11-12-05, 12:55 PM
I agree about last night's episode. The ultra-jumpy editing was headache-inducing and made an average MTV video look positively tranquil in comparison. And there was nothing scary at all, just gore and noise. Haven't watched last week's yet; hope for better.

talbain
11-13-05, 12:08 AM
well none of them have been scary imo, but i agree, this week's "mtv" effect was VERY distracting. it also took a looooong time to get the story going. i don't know, i think i kind of liked it. the worst of the three so far to be sure, but i still think i liked it...

PooperScooper
11-13-05, 09:04 AM
I thought Robert Englund did a decent job, the Doom Room set/production was quite good, and the audio was good. Story? Ehh.

larry

CPanther95
11-13-05, 10:56 AM
I found nothing redeeming about the last episode - and my "bar" is set extremely low for horror.

flyersfan
11-19-05, 04:00 PM
I just watched Jenifer and am ready to throw in the towel on this anthology. I was nervous when I saw the screenplay was adapted by Steven Weber. The plot was so obvious and cliched that we knew what'd happen just from the synopsis.

No, I'm not expecting high art, but these are the "masters"?

CPanther95
11-19-05, 04:06 PM
Very predictable, but it did have some redeeming aspects. ;)

winman42
11-19-05, 05:17 PM
Well, i was suprised that Weber did the screenplay, but Argento made a 'decent' episode
out of it, but the ending was utter crap. Anyone with an IQ above 50 could see that ending
coming. While watching the ep, i was wondering how are they were gonna fool us with an
ending we didnt expect? Guess i was wrong. DUH.

Win

lexluthor
11-19-05, 10:30 PM
Just finished watching Jenifer.

By far, the worst episode to date.

turls
11-21-05, 10:14 AM
Unknown? Its called Entertainment Weekly. And they probably only saw the first 2-3 episodes to give that rating. But in any case, its anthology, so yes it will be hit and miss.

I'm not sure why everybody expects a surprise ending in this genre.

Its basically uncensored horror in hidef with decent production values and good eye candy. Whats not worth an hour a week?

It is kind of sad when a show brags about a A- rating from an unknown source.

talbain
11-21-05, 10:18 AM
i don't expect a surprise ending. i just want to be entertained and hopefully jump and be startled a few times. haven't seen this weeks episode yet so i can't comment on that one, but thus far for me at least this series has lacked the "jump" factor.

turls
11-21-05, 10:22 AM
talbain, lets put it this way, I would expect your horror-lite buddies offended by nudity would never watch again after this weeks show.

talbain
11-26-05, 07:24 PM
well i respectfully disagree with most of you here regarding Jenifer. i thought that episode was excellent. yes, it was predictable, but it was very creepy and actually made me jump a couple of times. i loved it.

as for last night's episode, chocolate, man did i hate that one. i thought it was horrible, easily the worst of the series so far, and only solidifies my theory that mick garris doesn't know what he's doing...

so far, i'd rank them as follows:

1 (Best) Jenifer
2 Dreams in the Witch House
3 Incident On and Off a Mountain Road
4 Dance of the Dead
5 Chocolate

Chocolate left such a bad taste in my mouth (no pun intended) that i can't wait until friday for Homecoming

CPanther95
12-03-05, 01:06 AM
Holy crap that was bad. I think they forgot it was supposed to be a horror show. One big political hour of spin with nothing at all subtle about it - gotta hit you over the head with every point they want to get across - plot be damned.

You'd think this week's "Master" was Michael Moore, but couldn't be, Michael would have at least made it entertaining - probably could make it scarier as well.

Why is it so damn hard to get some decent SciFi/Horror entertainment? I wanted this show to take off, but it's gotten worse just about every week. Maybe it's time to retire all the "masters" and start tapping all those warped young teenage minds out there for some original material.

dm145
12-03-05, 11:07 AM
I had beed DVRing every episode until last weeks. I did not want to put any unneeded stress on my HD. This series has gone down hill and I did not even bother to watch last night. Oh well.

patrickpiteo
12-03-05, 06:53 PM
Holy crap that was bad. I think they forgot it was supposed to be a horror show. One big political hour of spin with nothing at all subtle about it - gotta hit you over the head with every point they want to get across - plot be damned.

You'd think this week's "Master" was Michael Moore, but couldn't be, Michael would have at least made it entertaining - probably could make it scarier as well.

Why is it so damn hard to get some decent SciFi/Horror entertainment? I wanted this show to take off, but it's gotten worse just about every week. Maybe it's time to retire all the "masters" and start tapping all those warped young teenage minds out there for some original material.Boy did that one stink.. Teh best part was seeing the head stone that said G A Romero,, :eek:

YoungC55
12-03-05, 10:58 PM
I like how they show alot of breast. :p
If you are watching a Horror TV show, you should expect nudity/blood/gore..

My fav. was Jennifer. Good stuff
Yeah; Chocolate wasn't that good.

CPanther95: Right, i thought the "home coming" episode wasn't that good.
They need to show more gore and blood.. haha

Argee
12-04-05, 08:45 AM
Satire. Not sure if it was the place for it but I laughed out loud a number of times at the Karl Rove, GWB, Ann Coulter, Larry King and Jerry Falwell clones.

lexluthor
12-04-05, 10:19 AM
Wow, that episode was almost offensive. They really shoved that one right down our throats at the end.

The first couple were good, but it's been going downhill fast.

I think this season pass is getting the boot.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 10:33 AM
One's reaction to this episode really depends on whether you feel that our troops are being used properly or whether you feel that they're being misused by a bunch of chickenhawks who sent them to die for lies created to support their political agenda.

It was definitely the campiest thing I've seen in a long time, but it's message was no less powerful.

lexluthor
12-04-05, 11:10 AM
One's reaction to this episode really depends on whether you feel that our troops are being used properly or whether you feel that they're being misused by a bunch of chickenhawks who sent them to die for lies created to support their political agenda.

I don't know about that. If I want to hear rhetoric one way or another, I'll put on the news.

I'm watching a horror show, I just don't think it was appropriate to be force fed this stuff here.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 12:08 PM
I don't know about that. If I want to hear rhetoric one way or another, I'll put on the news.

I'm watching a horror show, I just don't think it was appropriate to be force fed this stuff here.
Force fed? You sound as if you're in an American gulag in Eastern Europe tied to a chair being forced to watch Masters of Horror. Or perhaps you simply lost your remote control in the couch.

I'll admit, watching the news is the REAL horror show, but believe it or not, sometimes the intent of a film maker or any work of art is to provoke the audience to think as well as be entertained. That's all there is to it, and if you don't like what you see, change the channel.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 12:48 PM
Only problem is it is supposed to a horror show. If you want to slip a message in there, fine - but this was all message, no horror. Zombies are supposed to attack, eat brains, etc. - zombies coming back to vote isn't very scary. They stopped just short of having the zombies make the rounds on the Sunday news/talk shows to get their talking points out.

They could have had them attack DC, kill all three branches of government and the obligatory young recreational drug users, and sexually active young lovers (naked, of course).

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 01:02 PM
Only problem is it is supposed to a horror show. If you want to slip a message in there, fine - but this was all message, no horror. Zombies are supposed to attack, eat brains, etc. - zombies coming back to vote isn't very scary. They stopped just short of having the zombies make the rounds on the Sunday news/talk shows to get their talking points out.

They could have had them attack DC, kill all three branches of government and the obligatory young recreational drug users, and sexually active young lovers (naked, of course).
I think that the point of the film maker was that horror doesn't always take the form of blood, guts, and eating brains. To him, and many Americans, it's just as much of a horror to mislead our country into unnecessary war and abuse our military. If you personally don't agree, that's one thing; but I believe that was the intent.

nailzer
12-04-05, 02:12 PM
It still sucked and so far Masters Of Horror has came no where near Showtime's Outer Limits series as far as quality.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 02:31 PM
Still have about 15 Outer Limits on my Tivo from the last couple SciFi marathons. Even as predictable as some were they were, for the most part, very entertaining. The shame here is that there is so little decent horror out there, this should have been easy to do half-decent.

Maybe they should screen these plots closer before funding anything. If we are going to get a bunch of shows about what some individual considers "horror" metaphorically or philosophically, they should at least change the title so "horror" is in quotes. Or next, we'll get shows about the "horror" of waiting in line all night and not ending up with an XBox360 or the "horror" of letting a good bottle of wine turn to vinegar. :rolleyes:

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 03:15 PM
Or next, we'll get shows about the "horror" of waiting in line all night and not ending up with an XBox360 or the "horror" of letting a good bottle of wine turn to vinegar. :rolleyes:
How can you put these so called examples of "horror" in the same league with the sacrifice of real lives. There are many veterans who would be outraged by your cavalier attitude toward the horror of war. It is truly remarkable how desensitized some people have become about war and the bravest among us who serve. We must never take them for granted.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 03:18 PM
I can't believe you're serious.

It is a horror show, if you want to show that horror in the context of war, fine - showing a guy voting isn't horror. Bad policy decisions aren't very scary either.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 03:35 PM
Bad policy decisions aren't very scary either.
When they result in needless death and destruction they are.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 03:37 PM
The act of watching someone make decisions, regardless of the result, doesn't make for very frightening television. If you got scared watching this episode, your bar for horror is much lower than mine.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 03:59 PM
The act of watching someone make decisions, regardless of the result, doesn't make for very frightening television. If you got scared watching this episode, your bar for horror is much lower than mine.
Sometimes it's the concept that is frightening, not the visual portrayal. You're right, the visual of zombies voting in itself is not scary. But it was meant to be a symbolic way of getting across the more frightening concept of sending soldiers to die for a lie.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 04:19 PM
Symbolism and concepts don't scare me or creep me out - and that's what I want from a horror. I also like my comedies to be funny.

Jimbo Moran
12-04-05, 04:25 PM
Sometimes it's the concept that is frightening, not the visual portrayal. You're right, the visual of zombies voting in itself is not scary. But it was meant to be a symbolic way of getting across the more frightening concept of sending soldiers to die for a lie.

If I want to watch symbolic political horror I'll tune into the network news programs. I too want my horror to be horrifying. Some bogus political statement thinly disguished as a horror flick is a waste of time.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 04:42 PM
Symbolism and concepts don't scare me or creep me out - and that's what I want from a horror. I also like my comedies to be funny.
OK, that's your personal preference. I'm just trying to explain what I think qualified this to be in the horror genre. Not that I would ever put it on the same level, but it's more in the category of Hitchcock horror than Pekinpaugh (probably misspelled) horror. Some people like psychological horror and some like blood and guts horror.

And I too like my comedies to be funny, but that too is matter of taste.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 05:08 PM
Some bogus political statement thinly disguished as a horror flick is a waste of time.
Ain't nothin' bogus about political accountability.

CPanther95
12-04-05, 05:11 PM
Dr. Strangelove was political comedy - it had a very obvious political message - but most importantly, from an entertainment standpoint - it was funny.

fourthstooge
12-04-05, 05:25 PM
Dr. Strangelove was political comedy - it had a very obvious political message - but most importantly, from an entertainment standpoint - it was funny.
That's what makes it a classic.

Brian Conrad
12-04-05, 07:42 PM
My favorite episode so far. :D BTW, I watched "Land of the Dead" last night and in the commentary Romero mentions that there is definitely a political statement made in that movie too.

KBI
12-04-05, 07:54 PM
When they result in needless death and destruction they are.

Sigh.. :rolleyes:

nez0r
12-04-05, 09:55 PM
I have not seen a good episode of this series. Every single one has been terrible in my opinion. It annoys me too because I'm a huge horror fan. :(

YoungC55
12-05-05, 10:24 AM
I have not seen a good episode of this series. Every single one has been terrible in my opinion. It annoys me too because I'm a huge horror fan. :(

That sucks you don't like it.

*Judas Iscariot- Satans army of horror"

Walter L.
12-05-05, 01:58 PM
IMO, so far grades are:

Incident on and Off Mountain Road - A
Dreams in the Witch House - A
Dance of the Death - C
Jeniffer - B
Chocolate - F
Homecoming - F

Hopefully, the series get back on track this weekend with "Deer Woman".

lexluthor
12-05-05, 02:11 PM
IMO, so far grades are:

Incident on and Off Mountain Road - A
Dreams in the Witch House - A
Dance of the Death - C
Jeniffer - B
Chocolate - F
Homecoming - F


I'm right there with you. I don't know if I saw Dreams in the Witch House, but pretty much in agreement on the others.

Only other thing I'm not with you on is that I won't be watching the one this Friday. I'm giving up, but good luck for a good one.

talbain
12-05-05, 03:11 PM
yeah this one wasn't very good either. i'd put it between dance of the dead and chocolate. i don't mind the politics. kind of humorous actually. what i find offensive is that this episode in no way should be classified as "horror". come on man this is supposed to be a horror series. the only episode that even remotely creeped me out so far was Jenifer.

i still have faith though. the heavy hitters (for me anyway) are still to come. if landis, carpenter, cohen, malone and miike's episodes stink, then and only then will i declare this series a failure. joe dante has always been pretty hit or miss with me. this was a clear miss.

tbass2k
12-05-05, 07:04 PM
It's funny how some of you guys get mad at some episodes, but enjoy others and say..."I'm canceling my season pass, see ya!" Gimme a break! How are you gonna give up on a show that has different directors (horror masters for real....Dario Argento, John Carpenter, Tobe Hopper, etc.) and writers for EACH show!? I will agree that some of the episodes have been insultingly weak, but I will definitely keep watching because at least they are fun to watch and somewhat original.

Who knows, we might end up getting some really great ones before the series is over. I can somewhat understand guys who don't have a dvr cancelling their "season pass", but everyone else I'm assuming will stick it out till the end. I know I'm having fun with this series and no one is forcing you to watch it...so just enjoy and you might find an episode that suits your sick mind. ;)

My grades so far:

1. Jenifer - A+ (very creepy and interesting...shows how powerful the poon is no matter how fugly/psycho the chick is.)

2. Dreams in the Witch House - B+ (this one was just plain crazy and fun..gotta love that rat)

3. Incident on and Off Mountain Road - C+ (This one was ok, pretty average, but still entertaining for a slow weekend)

4. Homecoming - D (pretty garbage IMO, not really horror IMO, but hey, at least writers and directors are trying to be original)

5. Dance of Death - F (I HATED this one. wth? what were they thinking? really? Somebody please explain? They could've at least had the dancers do some Michael Jackson Thriller choreography...right?)

6. Chocolate - F (I can see why people would want to quit watching this show if this was all they had seen, utter doo doo.......this story didn't even make sense...they could've at least had a twist ending or something....this should have been on Amateurs of the Twilight Zone.)

Well now that I have posted my grades...looks like it averages out to a D+, I guess I can now see how some anal viewers might give up. I'll still be watching though...there is potential based off the few good ones.

I was kinda tempted though to cut off the last episode...lol.

HDTVChallenged
12-05-05, 07:14 PM
LOL ... Well, I just can't seem to muster up the angst and loathing that many of you are expressing. The only episode that really disappointed me was "Jenifer" - since I guessed the ending about 5 minutes into the episode.

CPanther95
12-05-05, 08:07 PM
I'll keep watching - and based on previous episodes, I'll likely keep being disappointed.

talbain
12-05-05, 11:34 PM
no way, john carpenter is the man. i'm also intrigued by the story of "pick me up" by cohen

Iteki
12-08-05, 02:49 PM
I'll keep watching - and based on previous episodes, I'll likely keep being disappointed.

I'd have to agree...

I actually enjoyed "Mountain Road", it had some nice twists and a few JUMP moments.

Jenifer was gruesome....not often I cringe during a horror flick (I'm so numbed from frequent watching). The ending was very predictable, but some of the twists it took were not. This is one episode where I'd like to meet the writer(s) and slap them upside the head. Killing off that little girl was twisted...I dreaded it the moment they introduced her (why bother introducing her otherwise?) and sure enough...man....just brutal.

But in general there have been very few genuinely scary moments.

I did get a good laugh out of Elliot from ET getting screwed by a Chinese Canadian man (by proxy, but still). But nothing about that episode was scary. I'll likely keep watching, keeping my expectations low so I can be pleasantly surprised at some point.

flint350
12-08-05, 02:54 PM
I'll likely keep watching, keeping my expectations low so I can be pleasantly surprised at some point.

The only safe course for this (so far) major disappointment of a series IMO. I really looked forward to it, but I think even those who are defending it have to admit it is not up to par or anywhere near original expectations of most viewers. Surely, true "masters" could do better than this.

Ray

JATWolf
12-08-05, 05:46 PM
I have these recorded and will start watching now, but it is been surprising to see that this might not live up to what I thought it would. Like someone said though, these are all with different directors and writers. Basically like movies. The upcoming episode with a teleplay by the writer of Audition and with Takashi Miike directing should be awesome for instance. We'll see I guess. Not sure what week that is though.

lexluthor
12-09-05, 07:58 AM
I'll still give tonight's a try. Looks like the John Landis episode staring Brian Benben.

Anyone remember him from Dream On? What a great show that was. Landis teamed with Brian Benben on that too, so I guess they keep close.

YoungC55
12-09-05, 09:06 AM
Yeah, i'm looking forward to this episode tonight. Something about a deer women. haha

Hopefully there is more blood, gore and nudity than the last episode that was about Fake Zombies.

CPanther95
12-10-05, 09:13 AM
Not a bad one last night up to the non-ending. I think they forgot to write and shoot one.

flint350
12-10-05, 11:18 AM
Not a bad one last night up to the non-ending. I think they forgot to write and shoot one.

I was going to watch it tonight (Sat), but now I'm not so sure. Sounds in keeping with the others that I did watch though. Too bad.

patrickpiteo
12-10-05, 12:06 PM
Not a bad one last night up to the non-ending. I think they forgot to write and shoot one.Can you belive that .. yes I thought so also.. Here is how I would have had it end..

They should have not let her disappear. Then when the other cops catch up pull the car away and look at her mangled bloody legs and see that they were not deer legs.. but human legs :eek: I think I am going to cancel this season pass.. not one good one in the bunch..

kwhittenberger
12-10-05, 12:09 PM
I think I enjoyed last night's right up there with "Incident," in some ways more, in some not quite as much. Actually, I think I enjoyed watching it more, just directed bettter, Brian BenBen played, well, himself.

Also, not bad scenery...

Though it would have been a lot better had it had an actual ending.

Iteki
12-11-05, 12:11 PM
I think I enjoyed last night's right up there with "Incident," in some ways more, in some not quite as much. Actually, I think I enjoyed watching it more, just directed bettter, Brian BenBen played, well, himself.

Also, not bad scenery...

Though it would have been a lot better had it had an actual ending.

I would like to see a little more HORROR in the Master of Horror series...or maybe it's just me lol.

Things I liked:

Opening sequence was pretty good (door flying off truck into the camera)

Deer Woman was SMOKING hot....

His patrolman buddy cracked me up when he realized the mistake he had made. He'd been talking about her ALL DAY, and doesn't recognize what's happening to him until it's too late lol.

Deer Woman was SMOKING hot

That's about it.

Things I didn't like:

Benben....not buying him as a detective.
American Werewolf in London reference - Cheesy
Complete lack of suspense or horror. Mostly comedy.
TOTAL lack of a credible ending.

kwhittenberger
12-11-05, 02:03 PM
True, not a lot of horror in this week's episode. I think I was just glad to enjoy watching one for a change.

I'm looking forward to next week's episode, can't remember the name, about the special movie.

turls
12-12-05, 11:20 AM
I thought this one was one of the best. Been a while since I've seen "American Werewolf in London", but this was a good homage to that vein of comedy-horror.

"I'm a &*#ing idiot. Send backup".

That was good.

Benben was a FBI agent in 1990's horror/sci-fi flick "I Come in Peace", I think he brought the same stuff to that character, I don't remember that one being too bad either (for the sci-fi/horror genre).

darthrsg
12-12-05, 04:28 PM
instead of masters of horror it should be tales from the darkside redux, not much horror just weird stories.

CPanther95
12-12-05, 04:45 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the much "lamer" Amazing Stories.

YoungC55
12-16-05, 11:37 PM
Tonights episode 'cigarette burns' was great.
Finally some gore & guts. Filth

talbain
12-17-05, 01:19 AM
hey is the series hitting its stride now? deer woman i thought was very good, and tonight's episode was freakin awesome, easily the best one yet. see? i knew john carpenter could be counted on...

Daryl L
12-17-05, 10:46 AM
The "Incident on and Off Mountain Road" and "Cigarette Burns" are my favorite, followed closely by the "Deer Woman". Lastnights (which was very kewl) reminded me alot of John Carpenters "In the Mouth of Madness".

The others I didn't care to much for.

patrickpiteo
12-17-05, 12:01 PM
Yes a lot of gore.. weird. Looked or reminded me a little of The Ring..

CPanther95
12-18-05, 12:22 PM
Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about. That is horror, and a great story packed into a 60 minute format. Not a 5 minute whiny political message stretched into 60 minutes by bashing you over the head with it repeatedly.

Kudos to Carpenter, who earned his paycheck, and improved his name equity instead of just cashing in on it.

Iteki
12-19-05, 11:49 AM
Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about. That is horror, and a great story packed into a 60 minute format. Not a 5 minute whiny political message stretched into 60 minutes by bashing you over the head with it repeatedly.

Kudos to Carpenter, who earned his paycheck, and improved his name equity instead of just cashing in on it.


Amen...that short had me on the edge of my seat, and grossing out every few scenes, which is hard to do to me.

Some confusion on my part though.....he has a cigarette burn moment while he's tied up in the chair, then wakes up with the machete in his hand, untied, and the big guy on the ground. What did I miss there? Did he 'black out' and go medieval or what?

CPanther95
12-19-05, 01:17 PM
It was confusing, but my assumption was it was all in his head and he was the aggressor. Then I noticed the chair with pieces of tape attached, so I'm not sure what was real, and what, if any, was just in his head.

Joe Q
12-19-05, 06:42 PM
instead of masters of horror it should be tales from the darkside redux, not much horror just weird stories.

I agree. Wierd stories that often make no sense and most of the the time missed the key ingredient in a a great horror story that gets under your skin when it is over.

That ingredient is the Protagonist.
You need to identify with/like/dislike/hate/love,etc. the protagonist. We hated Freddy, we felt sorry for Carrie,...

Take "Jenifer" for instance. The cop KNOWS the girls eats people and even saw her do it and yet he gives up everyhting to go live with her and we all saw the ending coming 10 minutes into the film.

I did not like or dislike him - I kept thinking "This guy must have an IQ of 70 and is simply an idiot that is going to get killed at the end of this". When it happened, my first thought was "gee what a surprise"

Yes, I know it was supposed to be a take on the sirens of old but with those stories, you always felt sorry for their victims.




I had cancelled Showtime at least a year ago when I finally got fed up with the lousy HD selections,cancellation of clever/funny/etc. shows like "Dead Like Me","Stargate"(although it was getting a bit tired),"Free for All" and some others.

BUT 2 months ago I spotted this Masters of Horror series so I resigned up.

After Carpenter's rip off of the "RING" last night, I just cancelled Showtime - AGAIN.

talbain
12-19-05, 06:52 PM
After Carpenter's rip off of the "RING" last night, I just cancelled Showtime - AGAIN.


come on man. if you didn't like this week's episode then i don't know what the hell you were expecting. this one was GREAT. and i dont think he ripped off the ring at all. if anything it was more like "in the mouth of madness", which is his own movie...

Joe Q
12-19-05, 07:45 PM
In re-reading my post I can see how one can make the assumption nhat I cancelled ShoHD due to one show.

That was not the case. As I said, due to several factors, I had been thinking about it for a month now.

I guess I should not have put the two things in the same sentence.

Sorry.



I still think the film was a rip off of the Ring,though. Flashes of a bright white Ring,a film that if you watch you will die, that angel creature who needed to be freed (only this ome had NO hair) and a person stepping out of the picture into the real world.

I like Carpenter's work (not all of course) so I am not biased against him.

BTW, there is a rather heated discussion on IMDB about how this was NOT a take off on the RING. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

talbain
12-19-05, 10:30 PM
well it certainly had elements of the ring, but you can see elements of many horror films in every other horror film. anyway, i enjoyed this one greatly

Iteki
12-19-05, 11:56 PM
In re-reading my post I can see how one can make the assumption nhat I cancelled ShoHD due to one show.

That was not the case. As I said, due to several factors, I had been thinking about it for a month now.

I guess I should not have put the two things in the same sentence.

Sorry.



I still think the film was a rip off of the Ring,though. Flashes of a bright white Ring,a film that if you watch you will die, that angel creature who needed to be freed (only this ome had NO hair) and a person stepping out of the picture into the real world.

I like Carpenter's work (not all of course) so I am not biased against him.

BTW, there is a rather heated discussion on IMDB about how this was NOT a take off on the RING. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Actually the film it most reminded me of was the Ninth Gate with Johnny Depp.

talbain
12-24-05, 01:49 AM
what's up with this show? over the next two weeks there isn't a new episode. according to the schedule there are 5 episodes left. i didnt know premium pay channels had a winter hiatus...

YoungC55
12-24-05, 02:24 AM
what's up with this show? over the next two weeks there isn't a new episode. according to the schedule there are 5 episodes left. i didnt know premium pay channels had a winter hiatus...

Yes, I was looking forward to watching tonights episode (Fair Haired Child) But it was not on. Thats no fun. Well last weeks episode was great..

YoungC55
01-06-06, 10:06 PM
sorry to use this word :p
I think its ******** how in texas my Showtime HD via DirecTV is 4:3 letterboxed
(Meaning letterboxed on all 4 sides)

I thought this show was broadcasted in HDTV & DD 5.1
I pay for showtime, i have been looking forward to this *new* episode of Masters Of Horror for 2 weeks.

Was the show made in 4:3 STD?

Edit: I enjoyed tonights episode on 1/6/05 (The Fair Haired Child?) :thumbup:

HDTVFanAtic
01-07-06, 03:27 AM
Looks like tonights show was letterboxed in HD nationwide.

Showtime has 2 feeds going at the same time (as you can see at the end of movies very often when they switch to the 4:3 feed and the logo that just faded out is still there.

I am wondering if they just messed up and didn't go to the HD 16:9 version tonight?

turls
01-07-06, 08:55 AM
I thought there were other posts about Showtime blowing the HD feed recently. They need to get their act together. BTW, this one was pretty good.

Joe Q
01-07-06, 11:24 AM
Showtime has had almost nothing worth watching in HD for many months except for this show.

One 1 hour show a week in HD was not worth it so I cancelled Showtime.

CPanther95
01-07-06, 11:41 AM
Another good one - albeit in Letterboxed SD.

HDTVChallenged
01-08-06, 12:05 AM
FWIW, there was no "HDTV" tag for this latest episode in my TiVo's program guide. More troubling, is that there's no HD tag for next week's episode either ....

CPanther95
01-08-06, 12:27 AM
My Tivo showed "HD".

HDTVFanAtic
01-08-06, 12:39 AM
FWIW, there was no "HDTV" tag for this latest episode in my TiVo's program guide. More troubling, is that there's no HD tag for next week's episode either ....

Yep....Fair Haired Child is not listed as HDTV or Upconverted on the SHO site - and neither is IMPRINT, SICK GIRL or PICK ME UP.

They must have held the Non-HD until the end.

Guess it's time to move this thread to the Non-HD section.

HDTVChallenged
01-08-06, 12:31 PM
Even more ominous ... There are *no* HD tags for the new season of "L-Word."

I hope this is just some "intern's" screw-up and not an indication of the "new VIACOM's" corporate policy. If they discontinue HD for their original series, I may finally say good-bye and put that $10 toward my gas bills. :(

talbain
01-08-06, 07:50 PM
Yep....Fair Haired Child is not listed as HDTV or Upconverted on the SHO site - and neither is IMPRINT, SICK GIRL or PICK ME UP.

They must have held the Non-HD until the end.

Guess it's time to move this thread to the Non-HD section.


why? all of the episodes they've shown up til this one were in hd (8 out of 13) i'm thinking somebody just forgot to flip a switch somewhere. i can't imagine that they just decided all of a sudden to stop filming the series in hd. stanley kubrick didn't direct any episodes...

HDTVFanAtic
01-09-06, 01:15 AM
why? all of the episodes they've shown up til this one were in hd (8 out of 13) i'm thinking somebody just forgot to flip a switch somewhere. i can't imagine that they just decided all of a sudden to stop filming the series in hd. stanley kubrick didn't direct any episodes...

Again, spend 5 minutes on www.sho.com anc connect the dots.

NetworkTV
01-09-06, 07:29 AM
I came into this one late and saw "Cigaretter Burns" as my first episode. From what I've read here, I'm glad that was the first for me, or I might have missed it when I gave up.

Anyway, I loved that episode. Lot's of cringing moments (losing one's head, dotting your eyes and a new way of taking off those extra pounds).

Chocolate, on the other hand had me going "WTF?" - and not in a good way, either. I was tempted to flip over to C-SPAN for something to get the adrenaline going.

So far, for me, it's 1 and 1. Half the episodes have entertained me. Of course, half have disappointed me, too.

HDTVChallenged
01-09-06, 12:09 PM
TiVo'd the Sunday repeat of "Fair haired... " still SD. OTOH, at least the first few minutes of "L-Word" was HD. The tea leaves are uncertain.

talbain
01-09-06, 12:21 PM
Again, spend 5 minutes on www.sho.com anc connect the dots.

eh, their listings are unreliable at best. still, i wonder if this is a first for a series. does anyone have examples of any other time that a limited run series was shot in hd for the first half and sd for the remaining episodes?

HDTVFanAtic
01-09-06, 12:51 PM
eh, their listings are unreliable at best. still, i wonder if this is a first for a series. does anyone have examples of any other time that a limited run series was shot in hd for the first half and sd for the remaining episodes?

The fact that all the episodes to date have been listed correctly and that Fair Haired was not listed as HD or Upconvert while the second hour (Cigarette) was show that the listings are correct.

I can only guess is that some Directors chose not to do HD. They put the HD upfront in an effort to get bait the viewers to the series who would put up with the last in SD if they were into the series.

If they put the SD upfront, perhaps they thought they would not hook as many people as they did.

Just a thought.

But clearly, the rest of the series is scheduled if you examine the daily schedules - and they have clearly been left off the HD Page.

adpayne
01-09-06, 01:03 PM
I can only guess is that some Directors chose not to do HD. They put the HD upfront in an effort to get bait the viewers to the series who would put up with the last in SD if they were into the series.




I don't know why a director wouldn't want his work to be seen in the best format possible? I didn't watch the last episode, and won't watch further SD episodes, as I'm not wasting my FP bulb hours on small SD material. Big mistake, IMO.

This makes me wonder what the DVD release will look like. Anamorphic widescreen from some...fullscreen for others? Curious decision from Showtime. :confused:

Art

CPanther95
01-09-06, 01:16 PM
SD is much more forgiving for budget constrained special effects. ;)

HDTVFanAtic
01-09-06, 02:45 PM
Maybe they ran out of money for the last episodes, lol.

jrusnak
01-09-06, 05:36 PM
I thought that HD broadcasts had nothing to do with how they were filmed. Most movies are not filmed in HD, yet appear as HD broadcasts. Whether MASTERS was filmed via video, film, whatever,,,it can still be broadcast in HD. Something strange (and unpleasant) is going on at SHOWTIME.

turls
01-09-06, 05:57 PM
Showtime has had almost nothing worth watching in HD for many months except for this show.

One 1 hour show a week in HD was not worth it so I cancelled Showtime.

Weeds, Splinter Cell, and Masters of Horror? These are the best shows Showtime has had since Odyssey 5. Not sure what you ever saw in Showtime if you are just cancelling now . . .

talbain
01-10-06, 10:36 AM
Fair hair child was outstanding btw. i think it may have been better than cigarette burns. i loved it.

archiguy
01-10-06, 10:55 AM
Recorded Fair Hair Child and quickly discovered it was not HD. <Flush....> Gads, I've become such an HD snob.

patrickpiteo
01-10-06, 11:01 AM
Recorded Fair Hair Child and quickly discovered it was not HD. <Flush....> Gads, I've become such an HD snob.Did the same thing...

CPanther95
01-10-06, 11:17 AM
It's worth watching in Letterboxed SD - just pretend it is on Sci Fi. ;)

talbain
01-10-06, 11:23 AM
yeah, the lack of hd is a huge disappointment. that's why i'm holding out hope that this was just a glitch...
but the episode itself was great. i was watching this one last night at about 2am by myself with the lights off and i must say this was the first one that actually creeped me out...

MrMike6by9
01-10-06, 12:28 PM
It's worth watching in Letterboxed SD - just pretend it is on Sci Fi. ;)Hehehe!

YoungC55
01-13-06, 10:56 AM
Nice, tonights episode is new.. Please Showtime, broadcast this episode in HDTV & DD 5.1.
http://www.sho.com/site/mastersofhorror/movie.do?content=sick
I like the title of the episode "sick girl"
I'll be ranting tonight if its letterboxed 4:3 :(

YoungC55
01-13-06, 10:03 PM
Awesome! Thank You Showtime.

HDTV & DD 5.1 here in Texas.

talbain
01-13-06, 10:34 PM
Again, spend 5 minutes on www.sho.com anc connect the dots.



The fact that all the episodes to date have been listed correctly and that Fair Haired was not listed as HD or Upconvert while the second hour (Cigarette) was show that the listings are correct.

I can only guess is that some Directors chose not to do HD. They put the HD upfront in an effort to get bait the viewers to the series who would put up with the last in SD if they were into the series.

If they put the SD upfront, perhaps they thought they would not hook as many people as they did.

Just a thought.

But clearly, the rest of the series is scheduled if you examine the daily schedules - and they have clearly been left off the HD Page.



care to amend or retract your comments at this time???

YoungC55
01-13-06, 10:59 PM
ha
that was awesome :p
(Sick Girl Episode)

YoungC55
01-13-06, 11:03 PM
Masters of Horror's The Fair Haired Child is in HDTV & DD 5.1 tonight! (1/13/06) haha

talbain
01-13-06, 11:55 PM
yeah wow this series is REALLY starting to kick ass now. holy crap that's three great episodes in a row...

HDTVFanAtic
01-14-06, 01:27 AM
care to amend or retract your comments at this time???


My statements are correct.

Showtimes website is incorrect.



The fact that all the episodes to date have been listed correctly and that Fair Haired was not listed as HD or Upconvert while the second hour (Cigarette) was show that the listings are correct.



Statement is accurate




I can only guess is that some Directors chose not to do HD. They put the HD upfront in an effort to get bait the viewers to the series who would put up with the last in SD if they were into the series.

If they put the SD upfront, perhaps they thought they would not hook as many people as they did.

Just a thought.



Statement is correct - noted upfront and at the end it was a guess based on the evidence from SHO.com - which is incorrect. Given the facts presented, it was well rooted and logical.



But clearly, the rest of the series is scheduled if you examine the daily schedules - and they have clearly been left off the HD Page.



Statement is correct.

And your point?

Furthermore, Zap2it did not list either episode tonight in HDTV either.

talbain
01-14-06, 02:52 AM
ok here's another quote of yours:



Guess it's time to move this thread to the Non-HD section.


oh come on man you were convinced this series was finished in hd and you know it, and you did your best chicken little "the sky is falling" impression to boot. you know you were wrong, i knew you were wrong and i'm glad you were wrong. jumping to conclusions in the absence of sufficient evidence is NOT logical...

showtime screwed something up last week, case closed. the fact that fair haired child aired this week in proper hd glory simply proves it. i have no idea what it was, but it simply didn't make sense for them to suddenly stop the series in hd. oh, and i believe i also pointed out that the sho.com guide listing, which you infer you based your entire argument on, is frequently wrong...

its all good though. just messing with you because i'm so giddy that this show is finally living up to my expectations. its good news for everyone, except i guess for the poor gas company you said you were going to give your $10 to after cancelling showtime because the series was no longer in hd...

patrickpiteo
01-14-06, 10:32 AM
WOW lesbo monster bugs.. cool..

HDTVFanAtic
01-14-06, 09:18 PM
oh come on man you were convinced this series was finished in hd and you know it, and you did your best chicken little "the sky is falling" impression to boot. you know you were wrong, i knew you were wrong and i'm glad you were wrong. jumping to conclusions in the absence of sufficient evidence is NOT logical...



THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST HAVE EVER SEEN ON AVS - and considering others posts - that's saying something.

First, I quoted sho.com - and pointed to it. That is SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE.

YOU "knew I was wrong". Show us all the "SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE" you had 7 days ago???? Unless you have a time machine, you had nothing.

Come on....let's see it.


oh, and i believe i also pointed out that the sho.com guide listing, which you infer you based your entire argument on, is frequently wrong...


Frequently? Not really. Considering they show 100 HD titles a month, show us the FREQUENT wrong listings. They already botched up Ghostbusters and Englishmen this month, so they were already over their norm - though not frequent.

And you have yet to show any evidence from 7 days ago that was not the case.

You simply got lucky.


its good news for everyone, except i guess for the poor gas company you said you were going to give your $10 to after cancelling showtime because the series was no longer in hd...

Again, let's see your SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE that I ever made that statement I was cancelling Showtime - especially as I pay for them with 4 providers, lol.

talbain
01-15-06, 03:11 AM
ok calm down man. i've certainly seen more ridiculous posts. your tirades in this thread are up there, actually. lol.

i don't even know why i started debating you, as you are clearly backpedaling and quite defensive for some reason. i really don't care what you said, and your (incorrect) opinions as to the status of the show being broadcast in hd and the accuracy of sho.com have no bearing on my enjoyment of the series whatsoever. everything you posted is a matter of public record so i will let the other readers draw their own conclusions (if they care to). life is too short for silly debates like this. peace...

now, back on topic, next week's episode looks really good as well. at this point if they continue their pace i'm going to be sorry to see the series end...

YoungC55
01-15-06, 11:17 AM
now, back on topic, next week's episode looks really good as well. at this point if they continue their pace i'm going to be sorry to see the series end...

Yeah i agree.. This series is almost coming to an end! thats ******** :(
I hope this series would last for a year or two..
Same thing with Sleeper Cell, it was a great show.. but only lasted a month.

Showtime's mini series needs to be bought by NBC/CBS and for them to broadcast it for years.

NetworkTV
01-15-06, 01:58 PM
Yeah i agree.. This series is almost coming to an end! thats ******** :(
I hope this series would last for a year or two..
Same thing with Sleeper Cell, it was a great show.. but only lasted a month.

Showtime's mini series needs to be bought by NBC/CBS and for them to broadcast it for years.
Knowing our luck, anything good would get picked up by Fox or ABC and cancelled in weeks.

irishkale
01-16-06, 02:24 AM
I was reading an interview with Eli Roth and he said they approached him to direct an episode for their 2nd season. Sounds like they are planning for another season.

talbain
01-17-06, 11:52 PM
you know, i was thinking about the possibility of a second season. i wonder if these industry "legends" have enough ideas to support another season...

Iteki
01-19-06, 03:33 PM
Looks like they pushed the envelope a little TOO much (hard to believe considering "Le Fin Absolut de Monde" was such a gorefest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/arts/television/19horr.html

Horror Film Made for Showtime Will Not Be Shown
By DAVE KEHR
Published: January 19, 2006

And then there were 12.

The Showtime cable network says that the broadcast of "Imprint," the penultimate episode of its 13-part anthology series "Masters of Horror," has been cancelled. Through a spokesman, the network declined further comment.

Originally scheduled to have its premiere on Jan. 27, "Imprint," directed by the renegade Japanese filmmaker Takashi Miike, will be replaced by "Haeckel's Tale," an adaptation of a short story by Clive Barker directed by John McNaughton ("Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"). All references to "Imprint" were removed from the Showtime Web site, though a trailer for the episode remains on mastersofhorror.net, the site sponsored by the series's production company, IDT Entertainment.

The concept behind "Masters of Horror" was to give carte blanche to a group of respected horror film directors, both veterans like John Carpenter, Joe Dante and John Landis and newcomers like Lucky McKee ("May") and William Malone ("Fear Dot Com"). The filmmakers would be given their choice of material and freedom from corporate censorship in exchange for creating their work on a tight budget and short schedule.

Mr. Miike, 45, is a deliberately and spectacularly transgressive director whose work is lionized by a substantial share of the young generation of Internet critics and horror film fans, while routinely rejected as repulsively sadistic by much of the mainstream media. To date, his most notorious film has been "Audition" (2000), a cautionary tale about a middle-aged man who holds a fake audition for a movie role to search for a bride, only to be caught in his own game of cruelty when one of the candidates, a seemingly demure young woman, turns the tables on him and subjects him to a prolonged session of graphic torture.

"Imprint" may go even further, and clearly represents something more than Showtime bargained for. "I think it's amazing, but it's even hard for me to watch," said Mick Garris, the creator and executive producer of the series. "It's definitely the most disturbing film I've ever seen." It will now be released directly to the DVD market through IDT's home video subsidiary, Anchor Bay Entertainment, along with the rest of the episodes in the series. No date has been announced.

Mr. Miike, who speaks no English and is rushing to complete his latest theatrical feature, "Waru: Final," for release in Japan on Feb. 25, was not available for comment.

"Imprint," which has a much more polished look than most of Mr. Miike's work, plays like an infernal variation on "Memoirs of a Geisha." In mid-19th-century Japan, an American journalist (the genre stalwart Billy Drago) goes in search of the prostitute he has fallen in love with but was forced to abandon.

The American's quest leads him to a mysterious island zoned exclusively for dimly lighted brothels, where one procurer, a syphilitic midget, introduces him to a relatively sympathetic prostitute (Youki Kudoh, who also appears in "Memoirs of a Geisha"). Hideously deformed, the right side of her face pulled into a permanent rictus, the nameless woman tells the American the terrible story of what happened to his lover, throwing in at no extra charge the story of her own hideous childhood as the daughter of impoverished outcasts.

As the woman's story continues, her revelations, scrupulously visualized, become more and more outlandish, and her descriptions of the violence done to the missing prostitute, who was suspected of stealing a ring from the brothel's madam, become more cruelly imaginative and difficult to stomach. But the most shocking imagery is yet to come, as the nameless woman describes her collaboration in her mother's work as an abortionist.

"Imprint" was filmed in Japan under the aegis of Mr. Miike's regular production company, rather than in Vancouver, where the series is based and most of its other episodes were shot. "Definitely, at the script stage we made comments about the aborted fetuses," Mr. Garris said. "We made it clear that we were going on American pay cable television, and even though there wasn't as much control over content, there still were concerns. And then when we got the first cut, it was very, very strong stuff, and we made some suggestions on what might help before we showed it to Showtime. The Japanese made the changes they were comfortable with, and eventually we arrived at a film that he was happy with and we're all happy with. But Showtime felt it was not something they were comfortable putting out on the airwaves."

"Imprint," Mr. Garris suggested, was not the sort of film that could be trimmed a bit here and there to make it more acceptable. "It is what it is," he said.

"It really was, let's try and not hack this up," Mr. Garris concluded. "Let's all just agree to release it in its complete form on the DVD, and hopefully its audience will be able to find it that way."

tbass2k
01-19-06, 04:13 PM
Well, this is a good thing in my opinion, simply for the facts that it requires the show to add a replacement episode and we will be getting Imprint on dvd. So in the big picture we get an extra episode but lose the HD premier of Imprint...oh well. :rolleyes:

CPanther95
01-19-06, 04:32 PM
Sounds a little deliberate. Hype up the controversy for DVD sales. :rolleyes:

Have 1 showing at 2am if they're that concerned.

talbain
01-19-06, 05:28 PM
yeah i definitely smell a rat here. its just a little TOO convenient. give me a break. this is showtime for god's sake. aren't they the ones (or maybe it was hbo) that had no problem showing a complete autopsy? or tune in to either channel after midnight and see what wonderful sorts of "family oriented" material they show. as was mentioned in the article, i thought the whole premise of the series was so that the filmmakers got carte blanche. guess not.

YoungC55
01-20-06, 11:20 PM
Tonights episode "pick me up" was great.
Could have been more gore and guts. but..

talbain
01-20-06, 11:45 PM
why? then it would apparently run the risk of being censored by showtime...

i agree though, another excellent episode. when all is said and done i guess this series kicked ass after all...

Daryl L
01-21-06, 11:08 AM
Yep, lastnights episode was very kewl. I really enjoyed it. I was kind of hoping the girl would turn out to be a serial killer too and be the final surviver walking away from the two dead serial killers looking for another ride. :)

YoungC55
01-21-06, 02:34 PM
why? then it would apparently run the risk of being censored by showtime...

i agree though, another excellent episode. when all is said and done i guess this series kicked ass after all...

Yeah that is true, Its a shame. Its not like its a NC-17 movie with dirty dirty xxx and stuff like that.
I want to find that Imprint episode someplace.. besides the trailer of it.

Daryl L
01-21-06, 04:21 PM
Yeah that is true, Its a shame. Its not like its a NC-17 movie with dirty dirty xxx and stuff like that.
I want to find that Imprint episode someplace.. besides the trailer of it.

THIS (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4935) what your looking for? ;)

talbain
01-21-06, 06:14 PM
i think he means without having to pay for a dvd. it should have been aired on showtime hd. that's what i mean, anyway...

talbain
01-27-06, 06:41 PM
well, i guess tonight's episode is the last one for the series. looks great too.

jrusnak
01-29-06, 08:10 PM
And Showtime has confirmed that there will be a second season!

YoungC55
01-29-06, 09:20 PM
And Showtime has confirmed that there will be a second season!

Nice!
got a link for that? (i'll check out more on Monday)

The season finale was good. The girl was pretty and boobs.. she was getting with the dead. Nice :p

This thread is good.

bobby94928
01-30-06, 12:25 AM
Don't know about a link, but they announced it just before Friday night's showing.

NetworkTV
01-30-06, 12:46 AM
Don't know about a link, but they announced it just before Friday night's showing.
And after.

HDTVFanAtic
01-30-06, 01:26 AM
its on the front page of www.sho.com

HDTV-NUT
02-01-06, 01:14 AM
Ya, I have seen 2 episodes now. The serial killer and the truck driver episode was pretty cool. Didnt like the last episode I just saw. About the the guy who brings people back from the dead. The next thing I know, this lady is having sex with her husbands corpse. lol.

NetworkTV
02-01-06, 01:21 AM
LOL - I was torn. She was hot, but man that was some out there stuff having sex with dead people. It certainly wasn't scary - just very...disturbing.

barth2k
02-01-06, 02:08 AM
Post-mortem: what are your favorite eps?

My picks are

1) "Incident on mountain road" nice take on the pscho backwood killer genre. Has something like character development.

2) "Cigarette burns" (the snuff film story). The one episode that really creeps me out. Maybe I just watched it too late at night LOL

3) "Deer woman" some nice humor, plus Cynthi Moura is just fricking unbelievably hot in it. Yowzer.

Most disappointing: Jennifer. This was directed by Dario Argento? Could've fooled me.

HDTV-NUT
02-01-06, 11:02 AM
LOL - I was torn. She was hot, but man that was some out there stuff having sex with dead people. It certainly wasn't scary - just very...disturbing.
ya, not scary at all. just disturbing and odd.

CPanther95
02-01-06, 11:18 AM
yet, quite watchable. ;)

patrickpiteo
02-01-06, 11:29 AM
yet, quite watchable. ;)Some ugly kid though.. :cool:

HDTV-NUT
02-01-06, 11:31 AM
yet, quite watchable. ;)
to me though, if i want to watch porn i will turn on a porn channel. i would rather have a good show. think about it, without the naked chick we wouldnt even be talking about that lame episode! lol

CPanther95
02-01-06, 11:46 AM
to me though, if i want to watch porn i will turn on a porn channel.

Me too, but porn that sneaks in on a non-porn channel and catches you off-guard is twice as sweet. :)

YoungC55
02-01-06, 11:52 AM
Post-mortem: what are your favorite eps?

My picks are

1) "Incident on mountain road" nice take on the pscho backwood killer genre. Has something like character development.
2) "Cigarette burns" (the snuff film story). The one episode that really creeps me out. Maybe I just watched it too late at night LOL
3) "Deer woman" some nice humor, plus Cynthi Moura is just fricking unbelievably hot in it. Yowzer.
Most disappointing: Jennifer. This was directed by Dario Argento? Could've fooled me.


My picks are

1) "Cigarette burns"
2) "Jennifer"
3) "Incident on mountain road" < Bree Turner (Is Da Bomb, she took her panties off in this epsidoe :P)
4) "Sick Girl"

1) -http://www.fangoria.com/graphics/articles/5281_article.jpg
2) -http://sheknows.com/graphics/moh3.jpg
3) -http://image.com.com/tv/images/processed/photo_viewer/f1/7e/27662.jpg
4) -http://admin.horrorchannel.com/img/story/sickgirl3.jpg

"Cigarette burns" & 'Sick Girl" images are provided by IDT. Thanks

barth2k
02-01-06, 12:12 PM
to me though, if i want to watch porn i will turn on a porn channel. i would rather have a good show. think about it, without the naked chick we wouldnt even be talking about that lame episode! lol

speak for yourself. I enjoy nudity and soft core porn wherever I can find them :)

YoungC55
02-01-06, 12:18 PM
see below.

YoungC55
08-16-06, 10:20 AM
When is Season 2 coming out?
I did a quick google search about this yesterday, I only checked a couple threads and i could not find the answer.
I checked sho.com/mastersofhorror and i could not find the date. (maybe i did not try hard enough)

Walter L.
08-16-06, 10:29 AM
When is Season 2 coming out?
I did a quick google search about this yesterday, I only checked a couple threads and i could not find the answer.
I checked sho.com/mastersofhorror and i could not find the date. (maybe i did not try hard enough)
I remember reading that is coming in October (Halloween month). But I don't remember where I read it.

YoungC55
08-16-06, 10:56 AM
good deal, yeah that would be a good time of the year to release the next season.

YoungC55
10-02-06, 02:10 PM
anybody have a set date yet?
sho.com says

'SEASON 2 PREVIEW

It's time to Prey! Masters Of Horror is coming in October. Take a look! '

Can't wait for the premier. Gosh Showtime is doing a great job.
Weeds
The Underground
Masters of Horror
Dexter.

Walter L.
10-02-06, 02:13 PM
anybody have a set date yet?
sho.com says

'SEASON 2 PREVIEW

It's time to Prey! Masters Of Horror is coming in October. Take a look! '

Can't wait for the premier. Gosh Showtime is doing a great job.
Weeds
The Underground
Masters of Horror
Dexter.

Yeap, I saw it. I'm also looking forward for the new season.
BTW, I noticed that they've been running re-runs from the 1st season

talbain
10-02-06, 02:46 PM
excellent! can't wait for season 2. no premiere date yet, right? just "october"?

YoungC55
10-09-06, 10:38 AM
excellent! can't wait for season 2. no premiere date yet, right? just "october"?

I am not sure how official this is, tv.com has this seasons dates and episode names.

http://www.tv.com/masters-of-horror/show/37740/episode_listings.html?season=2&tag=nav_bar;2

Season 2:
Episode No. 14 - The Damned Thing
Air Date - 10/27/2006

YoungC55
10-17-06, 01:18 PM
I am not sure how official this is, tv.com has this seasons dates and episode names.
Season 2:
Episode No. 14 - The Damned Thing
Air Date - 10/27/2006

Seems to be correct. Just checked sho.com
http://www.sho.com/site/mastersofhorror/schedule.do
( 10/27 10:00pm The Damned Thing )

Here is the new lineup for Season 2!
http://www.sho.com/site/mastersofhorror/movies.do


Showtime is awesome :p

talbain
10-17-06, 03:25 PM
the damned thing it is then! just in time for halloween. cant wait!

Walter L.
10-27-06, 12:43 PM
REMINDER: new season premieres tonight @ 10 PM EST!!!

YoungC55
10-27-06, 01:15 PM
REMINDER: new season premieres tonight @ 10 PM EST!!!
Hey now, I was going to do the same thing.

Cannot wait!
See you after the season premier to talk about the show.

HDTVFanAtic
10-27-06, 07:37 PM
I realize that most of the posters have stated they care less about the credits, especially on Showtime, but I do find it interesting that the last slate on Masters of Horror still list Showtime as a Viacom Company - as they moved to under the CBS umbrella late last year.

While this will only be an interest to those who actually work in Broadcasting, its just surprising as anyone can see the CBS/Paramount logos on the CBS Network this season, so it is a bit surprising that these were not changed out as well.

YoungC55
10-28-06, 12:51 PM
Last nights episode was awesome.
'The Damned Thing' was a great season opener. I liked the epsidoe a lot.
HDTV and DD 5.1

Congrats Showtime for bringing us another great series. http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

YoungC55
11-04-06, 11:56 AM
Last nights epsiode 'Family' was interesting. I want to watch it again today. At the end, I sorta got confused. Great cast aswell.

adpayne
11-09-06, 10:38 AM
Not a whole lot of interest in this series?

I'd heard this season was going to be more "gory" than last, and the first episode certainly was.

I enjoyed the 2nd episode, but I felt they telegraphed the ending, which weakened the impact.

Art

YoungC55
11-09-06, 11:18 AM
Not a whole lot of interest in this series?

Some people say its too much. Me and my friends enjoy it.


I'd heard this season was going to be more "gory" than last, and the first episode certainly was.

Where did you hear that, I want a link. I thought the first episode 'The Damned Thing' was comparable in gore with 'Cigarette Burns'

I enjoyed the 2nd episode, but I felt they telegraphed the ending, which weakened the impact.

I liked the main female star in the show. She was pretty :p
Meredith Monroe http://www.beatboxbetty.com/photogallery/photogallery/images/Meredith-Monroe.jpg

talbain
11-09-06, 01:11 PM
Not a whole lot of interest in this series?

I'd heard this season was going to be more "gory" than last, and the first episode certainly was.

I enjoyed the 2nd episode, but I felt they telegraphed the ending, which weakened the impact.

Art


i have huge interest in the series. believe it or not though, i haven't watched either of the first two episodes yet. they're still sitting on the dvr. i've been way to busy. i'll start catching up this weekend and post comments then

adpayne
11-13-06, 12:10 PM
Where did you hear that, I want a link. I thought the first episode 'The Damned Thing' was comparable in gore with 'Cigarette Burns'


About it being "more gory", I believe it was from a reviewer who had an early look at the first few episodes. No link, sorry.

The 3rd episode in the funeral home was a bit generic, but enjoyable.

Art

YoungC55
11-27-06, 12:36 PM
Ohh ok, hey its no problem.
yeah i agree, very generic.

The episode 'Sounds Like' was very interesting.

The episode this past week called 'Pro-Life' was great. I really enjoyed it.

Walter L.
11-27-06, 12:43 PM
'Sounds Like' - interesting yes, horror? none.

adpayne
12-04-06, 05:21 PM
I can't believe no one posted about the latest episode, "Pelts".

Not that it had an exceptional plot, but the gore was, uh... in your face. So to speak. :)
(Anyone who saw it will catch my attempt at humor above.)

KNB outdid themselves on this one. I had to look away several times, and I never do that!

Art

Dobby
12-06-06, 03:51 PM
Yeah this last episode was by far the goriest I've seen. Absolutley cring-worthy. I mean, come on, Meatloaf cutting off his skin? Yuck!

YoungC55
12-08-06, 10:15 AM
'Pelts' was a great episode.
Skin Suit was awesome :p

Looking forward to tonights episode.

YoungC55
12-10-06, 03:46 AM
This weeks episode titled 'Screwfly Solutions' was awesome.
Not much gore, but the story line was interesting.

Showtime is doing a Great job on their programming.

nailzer
12-10-06, 09:29 AM
I thought "Screwfly Solutions" was about the worst one yet. There was no explanation on what how or why the women were getting killed, and in the last few minutes they show aliens sucking something out of the hunter's head and feeding it to their dogs. All I can say is WTH was that all about. I don't mind twist endings, but this show was way off base IMHO. The ending seemed to be thrown in because the writer didn't know how to finish the story.

HDTVChallenged
12-10-06, 12:29 PM
"Screwfly" was mostly SciFi with a Horror twist. ... And if you didn't get the "Why" explaination you must have dozed off at some point. :D

PS: The dogs were deemed worthy of continued existence, humans not so much ...

PooperScooper
12-14-06, 07:25 AM
So far I've liked all the episodes. Much better than last year, night and day difference to me. Showtime is really doing a good job.

larry

adpayne
12-14-06, 10:37 AM
I thought "Screwfly Solutions" was about the worst one yet. There was no explanation on what how or why the women were getting killed, and in the last few minutes they show aliens sucking something out of the hunter's head and feeding it to their dogs. All I can say is WTH was that all about. I don't mind twist endings, but this show was way off base IMHO. The ending seemed to be thrown in because the writer didn't know how to finish the story.

I respectfully disagree. This was my favorite episode so far. It actually had suspense, and foreboding, which have been missing from many of the others.

There was a quite detailed explanation for why it was happenning. Do you remember the briefing scene with the military brass, etc? What happens if there are no more women? Hmmm, no babies, and sooner or later, no more human race.

The ending showed who was responsible for it.

Art

Dobby
12-14-06, 04:03 PM
Although I enjoy watching the show, I think all of the endings have sucked. They all end abruptly, leaving you wondering what's supposed to happen next. There is no closure.

acksnay
12-17-06, 11:10 AM
Oh the Horror! Even the best eps end on a Tales-From-The-Crypt campy ending -- which is fine with me. The exception:

Pelts ... which was relentlessly grisly (yes, first time in 40 years that my hands tried to censor my eyes) closed (as it opened) in a somber, bloody heap. Other than Saxon's attempt at good 'ole boy, not one chuckle in the show.

I prefer having my horror both ways:

Cigarette Burns ... a transcendent storyline (mortal curiosity overwhelmed by angelic despair) ended LOL funny with Udo Kier (in classic Dieter mode) literally unraveling his guts into the film gate.

With a couple exceptions, this series has been pretty tasty.

acksnay
12-17-06, 11:28 AM
Deer Woman was SMOKING hot
I don't (choose to) remember anything else about that ep, but her face and body still linger as the most pleasant of afterimages.
Cynthia Moura (http://www.journal.lv/media/Maxim_Swimsuit_Special_2006_Cynthia_Moura_005.jpg) can plant her hooves on me anytime!

acksnay
12-17-06, 11:49 AM
About it being "more gory"...
I remember an episode from the '80's Outer Limits where some guy -- cursed with immortality -- takes a shotgun to his head and fires. The camera doesn't blink when his head disintegrates down to the brain stem ... then slowly rebuilds muscle, bone, nerves, brain, layer by layer until finished. The scene was fascinating but not terribly shocking because it was so obviously CGI. On the other hand, two head shot scenes in Pro-Life were utterly shocking with today's convincing CGI work. All the demon/child stuff in that ep took a back seat to that casual but devastating violence.

talbain
12-30-06, 02:07 PM
valerie on the stairs:

damn. the first half of this episode was shaping up to be one of the best horror flicks ever. really tense and gripping. but the 2nd half just fell apart. come on clive, wtf were you thinking? that was one of the most absurd storylines i've ever seen. and the ending? just damn. completely ruined...

also, the hd cameras are NOT kind to christopher lloyd these days...

and what's up with showtime not showing previews for next week's episodes anymore?

Brian Conrad
12-30-06, 03:44 PM
"Right to Die" is the next episode. If you go to the ShowTime web site, go to "Masters of Horrors" and click on Movies/Directors you will get all the directors and episodes listed. "Schedule" will only give you the next episode or re-run. I'm looking forward to the last episode which is directed by Norio Tsuruta who directed "Ring" and "Premonition" the latter which has been remade starring Sandra Bullock to be released this spring.

I liked this episode overall and thought it was very well done. How would have you done the second act differently?

talbain
12-30-06, 06:09 PM
it was well done but there were some aspects that seriously disturbed me.

spoiler alert

















for example, it bothers me that a demon from hell can be killed by being thrown into fire. i also don't like the idea that valerie and the demon were created and were parts of a story brought to life. too shallow. i know they only have an hour to work with, but still, it was just too convenient. different, but convenient. the very end where he turns into the book was painful to watch it was so hokey.

i don't know, it was just all too far fetched for me.

HDTVChallenged
12-31-06, 12:31 AM
. the very end where he turns into the book was painful to watch it was so hokey..

I think that was the point/joke of the episode. The story was so bad, it never got published ... ;)

But then again, I'm still trying to figure out the end of "One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest" so what do I know. :D

Bur- Lee
12-31-06, 07:48 AM
I enjoyed Valerie on the Stairs as well as most of the episodes this season. I am enjoying season 2 a lot more than season 1.

talbain
12-31-06, 04:43 PM
I enjoyed Valerie on the Stairs as well as most of the episodes this season. I am enjoying season 2 a lot more than season 1.


agreed. season 2 is awesome. from the descriptions, there are still some great ones to come too...

Tenkaipalm
01-01-07, 02:51 AM
So far, I'm digging season 2.

My faves from Season one were "Imprint" and "Fair Haired Child"- I haven't liked anything from the second season quite as much as those two, but overall, the quality of the second season is surpassing the first as a whole.

HDTVFanAtic
01-03-07, 01:21 AM
Does anyone else find it strange that this was produced by STARZ for Showtime?

pappy97
01-03-07, 01:47 PM
I respectfully disagree. This was my favorite episode so far. It actually had suspense, and foreboding, which have been missing from many of the others.

There was a quite detailed explanation for why it was happenning. Do you remember the briefing scene with the military brass, etc? What happens if there are no more women? Hmmm, no babies, and sooner or later, no more human race.

The ending showed who was responsible for it.

Art

I agree with the disagreement here about the "Screwfly Solution." although I do think the episode is flawed.

First off I like it and the premise because it's sci-fi and there is an intersection between sci-fi and horror. In this case, the point is you should be scared (or at least provoked in thought) after viewing this, not necessarily while viewing.

We never find out how that old guy never gets the virus (or perhaps he does but chemically castrated himself?).

Scenes at the airport with women demanding all-women flights and women being thrown off flights because they complained that there were too many men was quite interesting.

But I think it would have worked MUCH better if it was a virus to women to kill all men. After all, without any men (and sperm), the human race is gone too. This way they could have played up girl power/feminism to the extreme, instead of mysogny.

talbain
01-03-07, 07:38 PM
We never find out how that old guy never gets the virus (or perhaps he does but chemically castrated himself?).


i'm pretty sure they hinted at several points that he was gay, which i suppose is the same thing when it comes to women.

juniormaj
01-03-07, 08:12 PM
Does anyone else find it strange that this was produced by STARZ for Showtime?

I noticed that, too.

YoungC55
01-08-07, 09:07 AM
This past weeks episode titled 'Right to Die' was pretty good.
the DEA agent from Weeds was the star of the episode.
Some parts were very creepy and I guess gorey.

Good Job Showtime.

Walter L.
01-08-07, 11:12 AM
This past weeks episode titled 'Right to Die' was pretty good.
the DEA agent from Weeds was the star of the episode.
Some parts were very creepy and I guess gorey.

Good Job Showtime.
I agree. Very good stuff!!! My only complain of that episode was the ending - I think it was too open :confused:

WilliamR
01-08-07, 01:38 PM
These shows remind me more of soft porn then any kind of horror show. How come in all these episodes it is necessary to have so much nudity. Why is that such a key to their "horror". I don't find the shows scary at all. A couple have been interesting, but that is it. Not sure what everyone sees in these shows.

pappy97
01-08-07, 02:06 PM
I agree. Very good stuff!!! My only complain of that episode was the ending - I think it was too open :confused:

I had an issue with the ending too on "Right to Die." You supposedly know what happens, but for a show like this, we should see what happens. After all, this is not The Twilight Zone, it is the "Masters of Horror."

And to the point about nudity, I agree. On one hand I love the gobs of nudity (except why couldn't Meredith Monroe go fully nude, damn prude!) and the hot chicks, but I think it takes away from the show and I know when I show my wife some episodes, they become laughable to her because of all the nudity.

The episodes need more story, more scare, more closure, and less nudity.

rsra13
01-08-07, 02:24 PM
She looked good. I mean the show was great.

I agree about the nudity, specially in the last episode. I mean, I don't mind if they even show full nudity, specially from women :p, but in Right to Die those scenes kinda of were forced.

CPanther95
01-08-07, 04:07 PM
More story, scares, closure - AND Nudity. This past episode had the appropriate amount of nudity for the horror genre, but more can't hurt. ;)

talbain
01-08-07, 10:49 PM
my wife just gets mad at the nudity. she says it would be perfectly fine if there was an equal amount of male nudity to balance it all out :eek: but why is it exclusively women who seem to take their clothes off in these movies...

HDTVChallenged
01-09-07, 01:16 AM
The episodes need more story, more scare, more closure, and less nudity.

LOL ... everyone should know by now that the "Horror" genre almost *never* has "closure." Evil never dies, it just sleeps for awhile. ;)

but why is it exclusively women who seem to take their clothes off in these movies...

... eh ... because it sells tickets???? :D

talbain
01-09-07, 01:39 AM
LOL ... everyone should know by now that the "Horror" genre almost *never* has "closure." Evil never dies, it just sleeps for awhile. ;)



... eh ... because it sells tickets???? :D


that's silly. are you saying that a typical movie going audience is 100% heterosexual male? when i go, the audience is AT LEAST 50% female...

i can't believe i'm defending male nudity (lol) but still, there is a point here...

YoungC55
01-09-07, 02:41 PM
I like when Masters of Horror shows breasts. :p
Season 1, maybe 3 or 4 episodes in a row had breasts.

Bur- Lee
01-09-07, 05:35 PM
I like when Masters of Horror shows breasts. :p
Season 1, maybe 3 or 4 episodes in a row had breasts.

I'm with you on that one brother. I was in awe of Abby's breasts (before she got burned up) on the Right to Die episode. :)

CPanther95
01-09-07, 05:43 PM
that's silly. are you saying that a typical movie going audience is 100% heterosexual male? when i go, the audience is AT LEAST 50% female...

i can't believe i'm defending male nudity (lol) but still, there is a point here...


The horror genre is very lopsided towards males.

CPanther95
01-09-07, 05:45 PM
my wife just gets mad at the nudity. she says it would be perfectly fine if there was an equal amount of male nudity to balance it all out :eek: but why is it exclusively women who seem to take their clothes off in these movies...

I'd be OK with it if a couple of episodes contained all actors (male and female) topless. :)

YoungC55
01-29-07, 01:06 PM
'The Washingtonians' was a interesting episode.
I liked it, sorta creepy at some points. Those elderly people played good roles for 'creepy canables'

Season Finale of MOH this friday :( I want more of this series.