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02-13-08, 07:03 AM
New Update Received. H20-100 x 3 Looks good so far. 1 hour NW of Philadelphia
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View Full Version : DirecTV H20 (non-DVR) Official Thread douglee25 02-13-08, 07:03 AM New Update Received. H20-100 x 3 Looks good so far. 1 hour NW of Philadelphia Hatboro? Doug Roger Clark 02-13-08, 12:46 PM Got the update last night (West Palm Beach). I have to say the guide is pretty bright. I have a CRT RPTV and am a little concerned about burn in now. I looked through the setup menus and couldn't find anything... Are there options for less bright themes? JeffBowser 02-13-08, 01:18 PM Relax. Burn in only occurs when something is left on in place for hours at a time. Unless you are in the habit of leaving your guide up all night, you have nothing to worry about. If it is really that bright to you, you probably have your TV brightness up way too high to start with. Got the update last night (West Palm Beach). I have to say the guide is pretty bright. I have a CRT RPTV and am a little concerned about burn in now. I looked through the setup menus and couldn't find anything... Are there options for less bright themes? Roger Clark 02-13-08, 01:34 PM Relax. Burn in only occurs when something is left on in place for hours at a time. Unless you are in the habit of leaving your guide up all night, you have nothing to worry about. If it is really that bright to you, you probably have your TV brightness up way too high to start with. Hi Jeff, with all due respect, my RPTV is calibrated, so I doubt it's the brightness setting. I have been fully aware of burn in issues and participated in several letter writing campaigns that actually had some effect (PBSORG changed their bug from bright white to translucent based on our letters/emails). I do not leave anything static on my screen for very long for this reason. However, my wife has no concept of this and loves to hang out in the guide while she's deciding what to watch. Even though she is scrolling through, there are several areas of the guide that are very bright and static (especially compared to the previous firmware version). A friend with the same (also calibrated) tv had burn in, so I know it can happen if something is left long enough (they liked to watch a station with a particularly bright station bug). Remember, the issue is cumulative, so it's not how long at one sitting you leave the guide up, it's the cumulative time it's up. With my wife, that's a lot. Of course I'll have a good excuse to get a new TV if she overdoes it enough :) But, I haven't yet seen a new set that looks better than mine and most are far worse when the scenes are dark. So, I'd like to keep this one as long as possible. I was just hoping there was an option for a softer (dimmer) theme, that's all. JeffBowser 02-13-08, 01:41 PM All I can say is, I have had DirecTV for 10 years now, and my current HD CRT RPTV for 6. I have only slight burn-in along the 4:3 edges because I favor black bars when watching 4:3 programming. I have yet to see any sign of burn in beyond that. I'd say, based on my experience, that that is far more likely to be an issue than any normal use of the guide (unless, of course, you are a fan of stretch-o-vision) Roger Clark 02-13-08, 02:03 PM All I can say is, I have had DirecTV for 10 years now, and my current HD CRT RPTV for 6. I have only slight burn-in along the 4:3 edges because I favor black bars when watching 4:3 programming. I have yet to see any sign of burn in beyond that. I'd say, based on my experience, that that is far more likely to be an issue than any normal use of the guide (unless, of course, you are a fan of stretch-o-vision) I've had mine since 1999, no burn in. I do not mind the stretch for broadcast programming, so the side burn-in is no issue for me anyway. My friend had a TW56F80 which burned in pretty bad from the side bars so I've seen that first hand. I think the Toshiba sets do the best type of stretch and I've yet to have someone notice until I point it out anyway (though some from these forums would certainly notice right away). I stay away from static bright images as much as possible. The new guide is pretty bright and concerns me. In particular, the color dots for the remote options seem intense. Personally, I wouldn't care if I was the only user as I'm in and out of the guide in a few seconds usually. But, I'm not the only user :( Since there seems to be nothing to do about it, time will tell if it will be a problem or not. JeffBowser 02-13-08, 02:07 PM Those that have the brightness and contrast maxed (default settings coming out of the box for a lot of sets, unfortunately), will suffer image burn quickly and easily. Properly calibrated sets, not so much. If you have had yours since 1999, I'd certainly be inclined to think you are well calibrated. Truthfully, I have not noticed that the guide has gotten significantly brighter, myself. IAMQNOW 02-13-08, 04:37 PM On the receiver, not the remote, Turn on and watch a live tv show. Press and hold the guide button. When the filter screen appears, push and let go of the active button. Let go of the guide button. Push the guide button again. Exit out of the guide. When you push the guide button again, you will have the one-click guide. veryoldschool 02-13-08, 04:46 PM On the receiver, not the remote, Turn on and watch a live tv show. Press and hold the guide button. When the filter screen appears, push and let go of the active button. Let go of the guide button. Push the guide button again. Exit out of the guide. When you push the guide button again, you will have the one-click guide. Isn't it easier to go into the setup menu and under display/ guide and pick "grid " for one press guide? It's been there or a while. Rich51567 02-13-08, 05:02 PM Hatboro? Doug Douglassville, PA (35 min W of KoP) Snuffy101 02-13-08, 05:45 PM I’ve had the 0x404A upgrade since 2/5 and today my H20 reset itself twice. I didn’t experience this with the previous version so I hope this is not a predictor if things to come. Other than this, I cannot fault the upgrade, faster and precise, I even like the brighter GUI. I hope the resets were a fluke. Ringfinger 02-13-08, 06:24 PM What is the story. Min locks up every time I turn it on. I have to unplug from power and repower. Clues? douglee25 02-13-08, 09:00 PM Douglassville, PA (35 min W of KoP) Roger. I grew up in Warminster, PA and then moved to Hatboro, PA when I was about 8 years old. I have since moved closed to Philadelphia. Doug veryoldschool 02-13-08, 11:11 PM What is the story. Min locks up every time I turn it on. I have to unplug from power and repower. Clues? Since this is a non recorder, I'd try going into the setup menu and do a reset "everything" to see if that will clear out a glitch for you. Next would be to unplug the power over night. These are the two things that will clear out the receiver as much as you can. The software will stay so you won't need to re-download it. schroedk 02-16-08, 05:08 PM Quick question that I'm hoping someone knows the answer to. I have an HR20-700 in my family room, which I've had for about 6 months. I'm getting my basement set up for a 1080p front projection system, and am upgrading my old SD receiver to either the H20 or H21 (whichever D* ends up sending me, I guess), which I'll connect myself. I decided to go with the non-DVR for the basement, since it'll be primarily used for live sports or BD/HD-DVD. I got to thinking about the e-SATA port on my HR20-700. I know it's active, and people have had success hooking up external drives. I looked at the manual online for the H20/H21, and I see that it, too, has an e-SATA port. My question is, has anyone tried recording shows onto the e-SATA hooked to an HR20, and then moving the external drive to the H20/H21 and playing the recordings? Is it possible at this time??? It'd be nice to be able to do, if I have to record an HD movie to watch later. Thanks! drbonbi 02-17-08, 09:44 AM Quick question that I'm hoping someone knows the answer to. I have an HR20-700 in my family room, which I've had for about 6 months. I'm getting my basement set up for a 1080p front projection system, and am upgrading my old SD receiver to either the H20 or H21 (whichever D* ends up sending me, I guess), which I'll connect myself. I decided to go with the non-DVR for the basement, since it'll be primarily used for live sports or BD/HD-DVD. I got to thinking about the e-SATA port on my HR20-700. I know it's active, and people have had success hooking up external drives. I looked at the manual online for the H20/H21, and I see that it, too, has an e-SATA port. My question is, has anyone tried recording shows onto the e-SATA hooked to an HR20, and then moving the external drive to the H20/H21 and playing the recordings? Is it possible at this time??? It'd be nice to be able to do, if I have to record an HD movie to watch later. Thanks! Neither my H20 nor H21s have eSATA ports. Both have USB ports. The H21 has an Ethernet port that is not active. Dana rakstr 02-17-08, 11:20 AM Neither my H20 nor H21s have eSATA ports. Both have USB ports. The H21 has an Ethernet port that is not active. Dana See page 6 http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/System_Manuals/DIRECTV/HR21_web_manual.pdf Sorry, thought you said HR21. No reason for a disk on the H21 (it doesn't record anything). Don't know if it's supposed to do media sharing with a PC so I don't know about the ethernet. If it supports media sharing, it should be active. http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/System_Manuals/DIRECTV/H21_web_manual.pdf rgn2000 02-20-08, 10:50 PM I just installed and HR21 and was wondering when viewing an HD channel,is there is any setting on it that will give you the proper HD picture (16:9) using the HDMI to an HD TV and and letterbox picture for a 4:3 TV that is hooked up to the Composite (yellow, red, white)? I use a modulator to feed the signal to my other TV's. So I have the HDMI to my HDTV and then the Composite is used to go to all my other TV's that happen to be SD. The problem is that sometimes I want to watch the HD channel on the HD Set, but at the same time it may be watched on one of the SD sets. The picture gets squeezed. If I change the settings on the HR21 to 4:3 and then choose letterbox, it looks perfect on the SD, but the HDTV has the letterbox. There is no zoom feature. It seems as though the Composite outputs should default to letterbox because nobody would ever use those outputs to a 16:9 HDTV. Thanks for any help JeffBowser 02-21-08, 08:10 AM You are not getting HD from a composite connection, therefore, you are only feeding your TV 480i from that output. So, if the box is told you have a 16:9 aspect ratio, the composite output gets squeezed. No way around this that I know of. I just installed and HR21 and was wondering when viewing an HD channel,is there is any setting on it that will give you the proper HD picture (16:9) using the HDMI to an HD TV and and letterbox picture for a 4:3 TV that is hooked up to the Composite (yellow, red, white)? I use a modulator to feed the signal to my other TV's. So I have the HDMI to my HDTV and then the Composite is used to go to all my other TV's that happen to be SD. The problem is that sometimes I want to watch the HD channel on the HD Set, but at the same time it may be watched on one of the SD sets. The picture gets squeezed. If I change the settings on the HR21 to 4:3 and then choose letterbox, it looks perfect on the SD, but the HDTV has the letterbox. There is no zoom feature. It seems as though the Composite outputs should default to letterbox because nobody would ever use those outputs to a 16:9 HDTV. Thanks for any help R_Willis 02-22-08, 10:51 PM My H20 used to be able to output component and HDMI at the same time. It seems as it no longer works. Anyone else confirm? Did they change something in the firmware? Argh! tufamc 02-24-08, 11:05 AM Hi all, my H20-100 downloaded the new software 0x404a last week sometime, now I have a new problem. I no longer have Dolby Digital output form my h20, I know this because I have a Harmon/Kardon reciver that displays the incomming audio. The Dolby Digital is checked in the menu/settings, I even thought my over priced Monster HDMI cable was bad, swaped it to the bluray, set to bitstream and Dolby Digital appears, so I know my cable is good. Called Directv, did all there resets and tests and all they said is HUH!! They did say they would foward my request to lala land and a download may follow, any thoughts? drbonbi 02-24-08, 11:23 AM Hi all, my HR20-100 downloaded the new software 0x404a last week sometime, now I have a new problem. I no longer have Dolby Digital output form my hr20, I know this because I have a Harmon/Kardon reciver that displays the incomming audio. The Dolby Digital is checked in the menu/settings, I even thought my over priced Monster HDMI cable was bad, swaped it to the bluray, set to bitstream and Dolby Digital appears, so I know my cable is good. Called Directv, did all there resets and tests and all they said is HUH!! They did say they would foward my request to lala land and a download may follow, any thoughts? If you really have an HR20-100 (R=DVR), you might get better results on that thread. This is the H20 (non-DVR) thread. Dana tufamc 02-24-08, 12:04 PM If you really have an HR20-100 (R=DVR), you might get better results on that thread. This is the H20 (non-DVR) thread. Dana I stand corrected it is a H20-100, sorry:cool: drbonbi 02-24-08, 12:28 PM I stand corrected it is a H20-100, sorry:cool: Are you confident that the source you are using as a test on your H20 is providing DD? Just selecting it in the menu doesn't deliver it unless the program you are watching is transmitting DD. Also, not all DD is 5.1. If so, then you might try forcing a download of the software again. That has been known to work on computers. To force a download, restart the receiver and at the "Hello" screen press 0 2 4 6 8. Another option is to disconnect your receiver from the AC power source for several minutes. Even overnight. This procedure has been reported here as "What to do when nothing else works." Hope one of the above is successful. Dana tufamc 02-24-08, 04:32 PM Are you confident that the source you are using as a test on your H20 is providing DD? Just selecting it in the menu doesn't deliver it unless the program you are watching is transmitting DD. Also, not all DD is 5.1. If so, then you might try forcing a download of the software again. That has been known to work on computers. To force a download, restart the receiver and at the "Hello" screen press 0 2 4 6 8. Another option is to disconnect your receiver from the AC power source for several minutes. Even overnight. This procedure has been reported here as "What to do when nothing else works." Hope one of the above is successful. Dana Most of the HD channels (74,76,79 for sure) displayed DD on the reciver, then stoped right after the new update, also I have a OTA hooked up to the H20, and when DD singals are recived they displayed DD, again nothing has changed on my end, all this started right after the new update, Thanks tufamc 02-26-08, 04:54 PM Hi all, my H20-100 downloaded the new software 0x404a last week sometime, now I have a new problem. I no longer have Dolby Digital output form my h20, I know this because I have a Harmon/Kardon reciver that displays the incomming audio. The Dolby Digital is checked in the menu/settings, I even thought my over priced Monster HDMI cable was bad, swaped it to the bluray, set to bitstream and Dolby Digital appears, so I know my cable is good. Called Directv, did all there resets and tests and all they said is HUH!! They did say they would foward my request to lala land and a download may follow, any thoughts? Well after talking to Directv many times with no answer, I went and got a TOSLINK cable plug it in, changed the settings in th avr and got my DD back! So..... changed HDMI cable again and still no DD through HDMI, must be that my H20 lost the abilty to output DD through HDMI with last software, or maby it broke arround the same time. Any thoughts would help--- Thanks Roger Clark 02-26-08, 05:18 PM Well after talking to Directv many times with no answer, I went and got a TOSLINK cable plug it in, changed the settings in th avr and got my DD back! So..... changed HDMI cable again and still no DD through HDMI, must be that my H20 lost the abilty to output DD through HDMI with last software, or maby it broke arround the same time. Any thoughts would help--- Thanks When you tried the BR player on the HDMI cable, was it still connected to the same input on your receiver (SAT input)? I also got the update last week sometime and when I read this post, fired up my stuff and went to channel 76 where the Bizmark documentery was playing. DD on my receiver (Denon AVR3808CI) H20-600; don't know if the 100 reacted differently to the update or not... tufamc 02-27-08, 10:39 AM When you tried the BR player on the HDMI cable, was it still connected to the same input on your receiver (SAT input)? I also got the update last week sometime and when I read this post, fired up my stuff and went to channel 76 where the Bizmark documentery was playing. DD on my receiver (Denon AVR3808CI) H20-600; don't know if the 100 reacted differently to the update or not... Yes I had the player hooked up to the same spot, then I tried the other hdmi ports and my other hdmi cables, every way I could think of!! I am definitely sure my problem is being caused by the H20, all my stuff seems to be good! rpineau 02-28-08, 01:03 AM For tufamc: I did some test with my H20 and my AV receiver using HDMI Normal channel are in Stereo HD channel are either in DD (Discovery HD and some other) or PL II (tested with VH1 HD). I do have the version 404a of the firmware so all is working with my H20. So either your HDMI output on the H20 has a problem or may be you changed some settings on your AV receiver ? My receiver is an Onkyo TX-SR605 and sound format detection is set to auto. Rodolphe rpineau 02-28-08, 01:06 AM for R_Willis I tested my H20. HDMI and Component output (as well as s-video) are all active at the same time on mine with the 'latest' firmware (404A). So may be you need to do a big reset or force a re-download of the firmware. Rodolphe tufamc 02-28-08, 09:27 AM For tufamc: I did some test with my H20 and my AV receiver using HDMI Normal channel are in Stereo HD channel are either in DD (Discovery HD and some other) or PL II (tested with VH1 HD). I do have the version 404a of the firmware so all is working with my H20. So either your HDMI output on the H20 has a problem or may be you changed some settings on your AV receiver ? My receiver is an Onkyo TX-SR605 and sound format detection is set to auto. Rodolphe I think my HDMI output is messed up. My reciver is auto detect like yours, I get DD through my toslink cable, but no longer through hdmi, thanks for your input! Rich_NY 02-28-08, 02:03 PM I didn't want to read through 6,000+ posts....my HR-20 using HDMI cables has sporadic audio drops. Also sometimes the audio gets what sounds like "digitized" hits........Do other people get this???? Is this common for HR-20's & HR-21's ???? (I have one of each)...Thanks. BobNelson 02-28-08, 05:09 PM I had a RCA DTC210 with no issues. I just got a H20 because I get my locals OTA. This box puts out pixels about every five or ten minutes. Is this a common fault with this box or have I got a dud?:confused: dg28 02-28-08, 07:09 PM I had a RCA DTC210 with no issues. I just got a H20 because I get my locals OTA. This box puts out pixels about every five or ten minutes. Is this a common fault with this box or have I got a dud?:confused: Not a common problem. Sounds like a hardware issue with the box. Check all your connections, and if you're still having a problem call D* and get a nrew H20. Roger Clark 02-28-08, 08:11 PM I didn't want to read through 6,000+ posts....my HR-20 using HDMI cables has sporadic audio drops. Also sometimes the audio gets what sounds like "digitized" hits........Do other people get this???? Is this common for HR-20's & HR-21's ???? (I have one of each)...Thanks. You might want to post this question in the HR20/HR21 forum instead of here in the H20 forum... Rich_NY 02-29-08, 04:29 PM You might want to post this question in the HR20/HR21 forum instead of here in the H20 forum... Sorry i thought this was HR20 Snuffy101 02-29-08, 10:03 PM Sorry i thought this was HR20You are not the first to be confused about this, it's an easy mistake. It happens quite often and could be prevented if someone would rename this thread, "DirecTV H20 (Non DVR) Official Thread". I don't know who could make the change, unless the OP is still around. Ken H 03-02-08, 01:22 PM You are not the first to be confused about this, it's an easy mistake. It happens quite often and could be prevented if someone would rename this thread, "DirecTV H20 (Non DVR) Official Thread". I don't know who could make the change, unless the OP is still around. Fixed. Atticustrd 03-04-08, 03:59 AM whats the proper ventilation for this unit. Mines in a small space. Hardly any ventilation. Will i be fine? It gets pretty hot. Roger Clark 03-04-08, 09:44 AM whats the proper ventilation for this unit. Mines in a small space. Hardly any ventilation. Will i be fine? It gets pretty hot. I'd do the fan mod if you have an enclosed space (like I do). See this thread for instructions: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=696510&highlight=H20+Fan+Mod Atticustrd 03-04-08, 12:31 PM I'd do the fan mod if you have an enclosed space (like I do). See this thread for instructions: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=696510&highlight=H20+Fan+Mod Nice find. How long have you had the mod? Has it giving you any problems. Roger Clark 03-04-08, 12:57 PM Nice find. How long have you had the mod? Has it giving you any problems. I did the H20 in my enclosed rack about 2 weeks after I got it, probably not long after that thread started. No problems. I have another H20 in the bedroom just sitting on top of the TV without the mod and have had no issues there either. The one in the rack was getting disturbingly hot to the touch which is why I started searching for solutions and found that thread. I recommend it if your H20 is inside anything... Atticustrd 03-04-08, 01:19 PM I did the H20 in my enclosed rack about 2 weeks after I got it, probably not long after that thread started. No problems. I have another H20 in the bedroom just sitting on top of the TV without the mod and have had no issues there either. The one in the rack was getting disturbingly hot to the touch which is why I started searching for solutions and found that thread. I recommend it if your H20 is inside anything... Yeah its enclosed pretty good. Ill hit up radioshack after work. Seems like a simple splice connect black and red wires and were done. Thanks for the link. Oh by the way will it always be on? Its in my room so i hope its not to loud. Roger Clark 03-04-08, 01:25 PM Yeah its enclosed pretty good. Ill hit up radioshack after work. Seems like a simple splice connect black and red wires and were done. Thanks for the link. Oh by the way will it always be on? Its in my room so i hope its not to loud. The fan used will run slower than it's design due to the under voltage it receives from the USB source, I can't even hear mine... Atticustrd 03-04-08, 01:35 PM The fan used will run slower than it's design due to the under voltage it receives from the USB source, I can't even hear mine... Nice. Thanks man. mrnails 03-08-08, 11:54 AM Any possible way to make the H20 receiver turn off after autotune and recorded anything? Thanks dg28 03-08-08, 02:27 PM Any possible way to make the H20 receiver turn off after autotune and recorded anything? Thanks The H20 cannot record. It is not a DVR. mrnails 03-08-08, 04:47 PM i know its not a recorder but if you plug it to dvdr or vhs recorder you can; that's not rocket science. the thing is "D" don't put dvdr or vhs control feature in there receivers because they want to push there expensive dvr no matter your preferences are. The autotune turn the receiver on ; why can turn it off too ? veryoldschool 03-08-08, 08:04 PM i know its not a recorder but if you plug it to dvdr or vhs recorder you can; that's not rocket science. the thing is "D" don't put dvdr or vhs control feature in there receivers because they want to push there expensive dvr no matter your preferences are. The autotune turn the receiver on ; why can turn it off too ? So you're making the assumption "Autotune" is for recording, when in fact it may only be for viewing. mrnails 03-08-08, 11:51 PM Another one! I know autotune don't mean recording. Snuffy101 03-10-08, 10:59 AM Another one! I know autotune don't mean recording.I use the H20’s autotune feature as you describe, recording to my Panasonic DVR. It really doesn’t matter if the H20 turns off or not, the power consumption difference is minimal. It seems that, when it’s off, the only things that are actually powered down are the blue LED’s and the A/V outputs. So if you are trying to “go green” or save on your utility bill with the H20, it ain’t possible. mrnails 03-10-08, 12:46 PM I use the H20’s autotune feature as you describe, recording to my Panasonic DVR. It really doesn’t matter if the H20 turns off or not, the power consumption difference is minimal. It seems that, when it’s off, the only things that are actually powered down are the blue LED’s and the A/V outputs. So if you are trying to “go green” or save on your utility bill with the H20, it ain’t possible. Thanks Snuffy101 ; finally common sense been use. Arkyman 03-11-08, 01:05 AM My question I have the Sony SXRD 60a2020. I have the H20-100 hooked to it via HDMI. I currently have the resolution set to "Native". My tv is a 1080p tv. Will it have a better picture with the Native setting, the 720p or the 1080i settings. I've heard some say you should set it to 720p if you are running a 720p or 1080i set, but mine is a 1080p set and from what I understand it takes 720 and 1080 and even upscales them to the highest resolution possible. I'm just looking for the best possible settings for my system. I also noticed in native when you change channels there is a momentary pause before the channel comes up on the TV, when my HT system is on, you actually hear them talking 2-3 seconds before you see a picture. But when set to a permanent setting like 1080i the channel pops ups immeadiately without delays. veryoldschool 03-11-08, 12:49 PM My question I have the Sony SXRD 60a2020. I have the H20-100 hooked to it via HDMI. I currently have the resolution set to "Native". My tv is a 1080p tv. Will it have a better picture with the Native setting, the 720p or the 1080i settings. I've heard some say you should set it to 720p if you are running a 720p or 1080i set, but mine is a 1080p set and from what I understand it takes 720 and 1080 and even upscales them to the highest resolution possible. I'm just looking for the best possible settings for my system. I also noticed in native when you change channels there is a momentary pause before the channel comes up on the TV, when my HT system is on, you actually hear them talking 2-3 seconds before you see a picture. But when set to a permanent setting like 1080i the channel pops ups immeadiately without delays. Native will take longer to display the picture as it will need to change resolution to match what the broadcaster is sending. Your TV will need to scale any image not 1080 if that is your native display resolution to fit the screen size. The real question is which scaler looks better to you? If your TV's scaler does, then use native on and have the H20 "just" decode the signal. If you can't tell or think the H20 does better, then turn native off and use a fixed resolution output. With my Sony, I use native on, but YMMV. Arkyman 03-11-08, 09:04 PM Native will take longer to display the picture as it will need to change resolution to match what the broadcaster is sending. Your TV will need to scale any image not 1080 if that is your native display resolution to fit the screen size. The real question is which scaler looks better to you? If your TV's scaler does, then use native on and have the H20 "just" decode the signal. If you can't tell or think the H20 does better, then turn native off and use a fixed resolution output. With my Sony, I use native on, but YMMV. Thanks for the help oldschool, native looks pretty good to me so I'll just leave it on that setting, thanks again for answering my question, have a good one:) R_Willis 03-11-08, 11:13 PM Anyone have an H20-100 (working and no known defects), they'd like to get rid off? veryoldschool 03-12-08, 01:58 AM Anyone have an H20-100 (working and no known defects), they'd like to get rid off? me ALTAJoe 03-13-08, 10:21 AM What's the going rate for a used, working H20? JeffBowser 03-13-08, 10:30 AM Whatever price is offered, I will beat it by 20% - VOS, I WANT THAT H20 ! JeffBowser 03-13-08, 10:31 AM Oh, and I was just kidding. I just wanted to pull some chains this morning :D Yours specifically. :p ALTAJoe 03-13-08, 10:38 AM You got here first, so VOS' is all yours. veryoldschool 03-13-08, 11:20 AM I'd guess my -100 & -600 are going to stay "on the shelf" collecting dust, since they're listed as owned. Arkyman 03-13-08, 09:22 PM I'd guess my -100 & -600 are going to stay "on the shelf" collecting dust, since they're listed as owned. how much you want for the -600 old school? Its the one made by LG, right? Does it work good and come with the card also? What about the account on the receiver, is it payed up with nothing due? I might be interested, I've been looking for the -600 made by LG because it has a stronger ATSC tuner for OTA Roger Clark 03-14-08, 10:51 AM how much you want for the -600 old school? Its the one made by LG, right? Does it work good and come with the card also? What about the account on the receiver, is it payed up with nothing due? I might be interested, I've been looking for the -600 made by LG because it has a stronger ATSC tuner for OTA Keep in mind if you buy any used D* box, that it won't matter if it comes with a card or not. D* will always force you to purchase a new access card from them (I've bought several used boxes in the past). It's about $10.00 if I remember correctly, so no big deal... veryoldschool 03-14-08, 11:31 AM Keep in mind if you buy any used D* box, that it won't matter if it comes with a card or not. D* will always force you to purchase a new access card from them (I've bought several used boxes in the past). It's about $10.00 if I remember correctly, so no big deal... I think it's now $20 from what I've read. Cards can be swapped between receivers [on the same account], but not between accounts. ALTAJoe 03-29-08, 01:54 PM Yep, its $20 for a new card. ALTAJoe 03-29-08, 01:55 PM I have a question about the H20. It is supposed to be RF ready, yet neither of my units will allow the remote to transmit in RF. Any thoughts? veryoldschool 03-29-08, 08:22 PM I have a question about the H20. It is supposed to be RF ready, yet neither of my units will allow the remote to transmit in RF. Any thoughts? Two things come to mind: 1) you need to have the antenna connected to the back port 2) you need to have a remote that is RF capable: RC 24 RC 32RF RC 34 RC 64R RC 64RB ALTAJoe 03-30-08, 03:29 PM Thanks VOS, I didn't have the RC64R, only the RC64. I called D*TV and they are sending out the RC63C. n2ubp 03-30-08, 10:41 PM I have a series 2 TIVO made by Toshiba with a built in DVD burner. It has two USB ports. Can the TIVO control the H20 via USB <-> USB ports or am I stuck with the IR blaster ? I realize the best the TIVO will record is 480I via S-video. Trying to use what I have laying around rather then add more charges to the credit card. veryoldschool 03-31-08, 12:54 AM Thanks VOS, I didn't have the RC64R, only the RC64. I called D*TV and they are sending out the RC63C. :confused: I've never heard of this. "Typo"? veryoldschool 03-31-08, 12:55 AM I have a series 2 TIVO made by Toshiba with a built in DVD burner. It has two USB ports. Can the TIVO control the H20 via USB <-> USB ports or am I stuck with the IR blaster ? USB = no [sorry] ALTAJoe 03-31-08, 09:22 AM :confused: I've never heard of this. "Typo"? Yes, TYPO. Its the RC64R they are sending. Sorry.:eek: av-novice 04-02-08, 01:49 PM My H20-100 STB updated the FW from 0X204C to 0X4062 this morning at 3:11 AM. Does anyone know what changes or improvements the new FW offers? Thanks av-novice rad 04-02-08, 01:53 PM My H20-100 STB updated the FW from 0X204C to 0X4062 this morning at 3:11 AM. Does anyone know what changes or improvements the new FW offers? Thanks av-novice See http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=124671 JeffBowser 04-02-08, 02:03 PM Drat, RAD beats me to it. Looks to me like it mainly disables OTA for those not meeting the contract criteria to use the H20 unit to receive it. av-novice 04-03-08, 08:38 AM A thank you to rad and JeffBowser. Good information. av-novice pato_ma 04-07-08, 10:06 PM I have the MLB Package. Now that the free preview is over I no longer get the HD feeds. Today I tuned to the Reds vs. Phillies game on the SD channel. As soon as it acquired the game it switched from pillared to full screen, but still SD. The format button didn't work and my caller ID stopped working. How can I get the SD signal to stay pillared? I tried native on and off. rad 04-07-08, 10:12 PM I have the MLB Package. Now that the free preview is over I no longer get the HD feeds. Today I tuned to the Reds vs. Phillies game on the SD channel. As soon as it acquired the game it switched from pillared to full screen, but still SD. The format button didn't work and my caller ID stopped working. How can I get the SD signal to stay pillared? I tried native on and off. Just checking, you did also sign up for the SuperFan option, you need that for the HD channels. As for the other problems, try doing a reset and see if that helps. pato_ma 04-08-08, 09:18 AM I knew I wouldn't get the HD feeds as I didn't signup for Superfan. I don't need to pay an extra $50 for out of market HD baseball, there are enough HD games between the home team, Fox, and ESPN. I will try the reset the next time there is a game on and let you know if that worked. pato_ma 04-08-08, 05:59 PM Tried resetting and that didn't work. Last resort call D*. Followed the technician through all sorts of attempts to get it fixed. Nothing has worked. What I find most frustrating is the use of the format button. Today on channel 726 the format button works, but on all the other MLB SD channels the format button didn't work. Of course 726 was the same as 623 which is my local sports network. The teckie said it was the way the signal was broadcast and I had to live with it. So I have to watch MLB for $160 in the strech mode or give up MLB, doesn't sound right to me.:( veryoldschool 04-08-08, 09:16 PM Tried resetting and that didn't work. Last resort call D*. Followed the technician through all sorts of attempts to get it fixed. Nothing has worked. What I find most frustrating is the use of the format button. Today on channel 726 the format button works, but on all the other MLB SD channels the format button didn't work. Of course 726 was the same as 623 which is my local sports network. The teckie said it was the way the signal was broadcast and I had to live with it. So I have to watch MLB for $160 in the strech mode or give up MLB, doesn't sound right to me.:( While I agree "this isn't right", can you go into your TV's settings and make a correction there? pato_ma 04-09-08, 07:02 AM Yes, but caller i.d., format, and info buttons still don't work on the remote. More importantly I have a roof top HD antenna, which my wife uses for all the local signals and she can't tell the difference between stretch, pillar and zoom. She uses the TV only. veryoldschool 04-10-08, 11:38 AM To all DirecTV users... I would like to invite you all to take part in this transponder strength survey. The goal of this survey is to get an idea of what the signal strengths of general user base is currently like. We typically see users post their signal strength, but we only have our personal signal strengths and experiences to go against. With this survey, we can get an idea on what the "average" signal strength is amongst a larger population of users. The data submitted will be shared with DirecTV. The data submission page is pretty straight forward... a few key points: -) NAME is optional... you do not have to fill that out if you don't want to. If you do, use your FORUM user name or an email address. The email addresses and forum names will not be sold, or used for any marketing purposes. -) You only need to report the signal strength from 1 unit. The newer the unit the better, as they will be the more common units to compare to -) THIS IS FOR EVERY USER... not just DVR, or HD users... everyone. If you don't have a particular dish or can't see a particular SAT... just select NA If you make a mistake in entry... just go ahead and re-submit the correct information. Thank you all for your participation in this transponder strength survey. http://www.iamanedgecutter.com/Projects/TransStrength/default.aspx AlanSaysYo 04-20-08, 11:11 AM I apologize if this question has been asked before, as I could not find an answer using the search function... I just had my dead H20 replaced on Friday and I do not have any MPEG4 HD channels (CNNHD, FXHD, etc.) listed in the guide. I was told by customer service that the receiver would do an update and that the channels would be available after that, but it has been more than 24 hours and no upgrades have occurred. I explained to the agent that it wasn't simply an issue of programming data not appearing and that the channels were not listed at all (nor could I tune to them manually) but I was given the runaround on possible fixes and finally gave up. I am still able to see and tune to the MPEG2 channels like ESPN-HD and TNTHD. I tried using the 02468 code (which I found earlier in this thread) at startup, both on the plain blue screen and the DirecTV logo screen, and nothing happened either time. Current software is listed as 100C (which I see is very old) and no update is scheduled. The receiver is connected to a phone line. I also have a HR20 which received MPEG4 channels before and after this replacement without issue. Any suggestions? edit: Forogt to mention that the BBC is connected. I first tried using the rev. 3 BBC that came with the new receiver and also tried the rev. 2 BBC connected to the old receiver and saw success with neither. drbonbi 04-20-08, 11:29 AM Have you tried pushing the red reset button (behind the flip down door on the lower right side next to the card/slot)? Also, I believe Very Old School has reported that when all else fails, disconnect the receiver from power overnight. Dana AlanSaysYo 04-20-08, 11:42 AM Yes, I tried resetting via the red button and through the setup menu. I guess I will try unplugging it. drbonbi 04-20-08, 11:46 AM I forgot to ask, but is this a H21 HD receiver? And you're using a 5 LNB Slimline dish? veryoldschool 04-20-08, 12:19 PM Yes, I tried resetting via the red button and through the setup menu. I guess I will try unplugging it. One of the things to make sure is that you have it setup for the 5 LNB dish. If it's set for the 3 LNB, then what you're "getting" makes sense. As to the software, you should be able to force an update. Reboot and at the first sign of "hello", press 0 2 4 6 8 [about one sec between pressing]. Sometimes you may have a key bounce issue, so you need to be slow and careful. Any more keystrokes will defeat the download. Sometimes it may take more than once to "get it". This weekend I had to do it three times [normally I get it on the first try] before it worked. If you see "1 of 2", you might as well hit the red button and try again, as you have missed it. You want to update to version 4062 doudis2 05-30-08, 09:52 AM Hi All, Well that would be two, ( Oct to Apr then Apr to May) not one, but two H20-100's I have lost. Both of them stop sending the HDMI signal, turn on TV no HDMI?? It worked when I went to bed in both cases. Resets and all that don't help. On the first it took component with it. On this one component is still there but who knows how long. I called and they sent another one this time without charging me $21 for shipping. It is due at my house today. Problem is the DTV site says they sent a HD-IRD H21! That blows; as you know I'll lose my OTA's. Now I must decide, take it and hope it is more relaiable and pray the AM21 comes out soon with the ability to work with the H21. Or I send the H21 back and run on my half working H20 until it dies completly. Any advice guys? I get my audio to my reciever via optical so that is not an issue. Thanks Doug abward 05-30-08, 02:36 PM Insist that they send you an AM21 OTA tuner, and you should be ok (even if it is initially not compatible with the H21). My understanding is the H21 is a lot cooler than the smokin hot H20s, so you may be better off with a H21/AM21 combo. rad 05-30-08, 02:38 PM Insist that they send you an AM21 OTA tuner, and you should be ok. My understanding is the H21 is a lot cooler than the smokin hot H20s, so you may be better off with a H21/AM21 combo. Unless I missed something, the AM21 works only with the HR21's not the H21's at this time, and D*'s made no annoucement about the H21 ever getting the support for the AM21. woody0654 05-30-08, 09:30 PM need help! I just connected my h20 directv receiver to my pio 5080hd tv and started watching,then I went to change to hd and the screen says searching for sat signal (771).I did double check and I do have the B-band converter on it.My big problem is I can't change from sd to hd without getting that message.What gives? By the way,I'm using component input. cpcat 05-30-08, 10:15 PM I can't think of a reason why you'd only have SD. Try one of the non MPEG4 HD channels like ESPNHD (ch73). IF that works then it's probably a problem with the MPEG4 satellites. Try another Sat setup and be sure you select the 5LNB dish. Then be sure you get OK for all satellites. woody0654 05-31-08, 05:36 AM I can't think of a reason why you'd only have SD. Try one of the non MPEG4 HD channels like ESPNHD (ch73). IF that works then it's probably a problem with the MPEG4 satellites. Try another Sat setup and be sure you select the 5LNB dish. Then be sure you get OK for all satellites. last night a new box showed up and said multi switch problem.what is that and how do you replace it? What does the multi switch do and can it keep the receiver from going from sd to hd and vice-versa? cpcat 05-31-08, 09:35 AM Do you have ESPNHD? woody0654 05-31-08, 10:24 AM I started out on 301 as my original channel,then tried 72and it changed,but when I tried to go back to 301,first it said searching for sat signal so I just started channeling up to capture a signal and that box popped up and said multi-switch problem &after about 15sec. went to the channel. cpcat 05-31-08, 11:05 AM I'm assuming you have more than 4 TV's otherwise you wouldn't need a multiswitch and I'm also assuming you only have one HDTV else you would have mentioned if others have the same problem. Find your multiswitch and bypass it for the single HDTV you are watching. If that fixes it, then the problem is your multiswitch. If not, there's a problem between your multiswitch and the TV. Did you try to repeat the Sat setup to be sure you get "OK" on all 5 satellites? woody0654 05-31-08, 12:20 PM I just swapped one of the other h20 boxes in my house that I knew was working right with the bad one and everything is working right.Now I'm asumming that my box just crapped out on me . I would still like to know why I got that multi switch problem veryoldschool 06-02-08, 01:23 PM I just swapped one of the other h20 boxes in my house that I knew was working right with the bad one and everything is working right.Now I'm asumming that my box just crapped out on me . I would still like to know why I got that multi switch problem Your dish has a multi-switch in it [how it get the four outputs]. woody0654 06-02-08, 02:24 PM does anyone else hear a very high pitched whine from an h20-100. It drives me crazy. sjv 06-02-08, 04:42 PM does anyone else hear a very high pitched whine from an h20-100. It drives me crazy. I have a H20-100...........sorry, no whine. :) ALTAJoe 06-05-08, 10:19 AM Anyone have any opinion on which of the H20's (100 vs 600) has the better OTA tuner? I live in an area where half the OTA antennas are in one area and the other half are in the direct opposite. It makes OTA reception brutal. Thanks. drbonbi 06-05-08, 10:29 AM Anyone have any opinion on which of the H20's (100 vs 600) has the better OTA tuner? I live in an area where half the OTA antennas are in one area and the other half are in the direct opposite. It makes OTA reception brutal. Thanks. What I've read is that all H20s have OTA tuners licensed by LG so they are equal regardless of who makes the box. This is apparently one reason that the H21s have no OTA tuner on board. Dana veryoldschool 06-05-08, 11:00 AM Anyone have any opinion on which of the H20's (100 vs 600) has the better OTA tuner? I live in an area where half the OTA antennas are in one area and the other half are in the direct opposite. It makes OTA reception brutal. Thanks. The H20-600 [made by LG] has a notably better OTA tuner than any other DirecTV receiver. cpcat 06-05-08, 04:48 PM The H20-600 [made by LG] has a notably better OTA tuner than any other DirecTV receiver. That is my understanding as well. I haven't actuallly had an H20-100 to compare, however. The H20-600 has the best overall tuner for long distance that I've tried and bests the 3rd and 4th gen LG's as well as the Walmart box, and the new Samsung stand alone. Of these, the Samsung is closest in performance to the H20-600 but still slightly inferior. JeffBowser 06-05-08, 05:03 PM Try a GS2200 antenna - it receives bi-directionally, works great for me in my location where I am halfway between WPB and Miami. Anyone have any opinion on which of the H20's (100 vs 600) has the better OTA tuner? I live in an area where half the OTA antennas are in one area and the other half are in the direct opposite. It makes OTA reception brutal. Thanks. veryoldschool 06-05-08, 09:26 PM That is my understanding as well. I haven't actuallly had an H20-100 to compare, however. "I do" and the -600 uses the fifth gen chip set. Better sensitivity and multi-path rejection. ALTAJoe 06-06-08, 05:19 PM Actually, that's not good news. I have both the 100 and 600. One TV is in the basement and gets terrible OTA reception with the indoor antenna. It has the 600. I guess swapping it out for the 100 upstairs won't help. Looks like an outdoor array is in the cards for me. locomo 06-13-08, 01:58 AM If you buy one of these off ebay, can you use it without a commitment ? thanks drbonbi 06-13-08, 06:54 AM If you buy one of these off ebay, can you use it without a commitment ? thanks The short answer is no. The H20, 21 and for that matter the HR20 and HR21 DVR boxes are owned by D*. Regardless of where/how you acquire one, title remains with D* and there is a commitment attached to the lease. The price you pay to acquire one is a down payment. If/when you leave D*, the STBs must be returned. Dana rad 06-13-08, 09:47 AM FYI, when the H20 first went on the market it was a purchase only box, D* hadn't started the leasing program yet (IIRC is was around March 2006 it started). You can also purchase a HR20/HR21/H21 if you want, but it's like $700 to do that and you'd still need to pay the $4.99 mirroring charge vs. the $4.99 lease charge. drbonbi 06-13-08, 11:18 AM FYI, when the H20 first went on the market it was a purchase only box, D* hadn't started the leasing program yet (IIRC is was around March 2006 it started). You can also purchase a HR20/HR21/H21 if you want, but it's like $700 to do that and you'd still need to pay the $4.99 mirroring charge vs. the $4.99 lease charge. You are correct about the initial rollout of the H20. It was a purchased box from the initial availability (January 2006?) until the lease only program started on March 1, 2006. I bought one in January 2006 with a rebate from D* so when I went back to cable (a bad mistake as it turned out) in May 2006, I had to return the box or reimburse D* for the rebate. I returned the box. I returned to D* last fall and of course all boxes are now lease only (with the technical exception you note). Dana locomo 06-18-08, 10:24 PM You are correct about the initial rollout of the H20. It was a purchased box from the initial availability (January 2006?) until the lease only program started on March 1, 2006. I bought one in January 2006 with a rebate from D* so when I went back to cable (a bad mistake as it turned out) in May 2006, I had to return the box or reimburse D* for the rebate. I returned the box. I returned to D* last fall and of course all boxes are now lease only (with the technical exception you note). Dana Well the 2 I was bidding on, and most of the others, have disappeared on ebay. Marty913 06-26-08, 06:12 PM You are correct about the initial rollout of the H20. It was a purchased box from the initial availability (January 2006?) until the lease only program started on March 1, 2006. I bought one in January 2006 with a rebate from D* so when I went back to cable (a bad mistake as it turned out) in May 2006, I had to return the box or reimburse D* for the rebate. I returned the box. I returned to D* last fall and of course all boxes are now lease only (with the technical exception you note). Dana So just for clarification (or confirmation), I purchased my H20-600 from BB in late 2006 as a direct replacement for the basic receiver provided by D*. D* wouldn't provide me with an H20 because I wasn't subscribing to HD but I wanted the HDMI connection anyway. Have been using it since and don't pay any lease or mirroring fees (it's my only receiver). My question is: I would assume if I bought the $99 H21 at BB to replace my H20, it would work the same way. I'd swap them out, call D* and register the new card/receiver, and if I ever leave D* I would give them the receiver. Correct? drbonbi 06-26-08, 10:25 PM So just for clarification (or confirmation), I purchased my H20-600 from BB in late 2006 as a direct replacement for the basic receiver provided by D*. D* wouldn't provide me with an H20 because I wasn't subscribing to HD but I wanted the HDMI connection anyway. Have been using it since and don't pay any lease or mirroring fees (it's my only receiver). My question is: I would assume if I bought the $99 H21 at BB to replace my H20, it would work the same way. I'd swap them out, call D* and register the new card/receiver, and if I ever leave D* I would give them the receiver. Correct? As far as the H20 goes, you paid the $99. to BB to obtain the receiver but you didn't "buy it" in that it belongs to D*. The monthly lease fee is charged to you on your bill and then there's a credit on your bill for the same amount because it's your only receiver. If you now go to BB and pay $99. to walk out of the store with an H21, D* still retains ownership. If you intend to swap the H21 for the H20, then D* will send you a box for the return of the H20 to them. If you refuse to return it, they will charge you for it. Several hundred dollars. Also, be aware of some information posted here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14170494#post14170494 that may apply. At one time DirecTV would allow you to have HD equipment on your account without paying the $10 monthly HD access fee, so that you could use the receiver without an HD subscription. That time is over as of about 8 months ago. They will require the HD access fee with any HD equipment activation. There is no getting around it. Further, after the $99 equipment lease fee, they will also slap on a 2 year contract extension. No getting around that either. Finally, welcome to the AVS Forum and this thread for your first post! Dana Marty913 06-27-08, 05:39 PM Thanks, that makes it pretty clear and for the most part is isn't really an issue. I was a Dish customer for 10 years and have been a D* one for almost two but typically I am NOT a fan of forced contracts by any provider unless I take free stuff from them. The two year new policy would have been a show-stopper for me had it been in effect 18 months ago. At the time D* had like 6 decent HD channels for $10 a month and their basic receiver had S-Video connections so even non-HD looked like crap. I simply solved the problem by buying my own (and I don't really care if they own it). Now that they have 40+ HD channels (that I use), it all becomes a non-issue. My only current gripe is not having HD local channels yet but hopefully that will be solved this summer. Thanks for the great response. av-novice 07-11-08, 07:18 PM Was 0X4062. As of 7-9-08, now 0X407A. Scott Pro 07-13-08, 07:02 PM My H21's firmware is 0x4062. Are all your H21's the same as this version? av-novice 07-14-08, 09:04 AM Don't have the H21; mine is the H20-100, and the new FW is 0X407A. AVN capra1628 07-16-08, 03:34 PM So the H20-100 got an update to 0X407A....Is there an update for the H20-600 ?? Scott Pro 07-16-08, 03:51 PM My H21's firmware is 0x4062. Are all your H21's the same as this version? H21 got the 0x407E upgrade on 7/15. capra1628 07-17-08, 08:08 PM So the H20-100 got an update to 0X407A....Is there an update for the H20-600 ?? Have my answer: my H20-600 was updated to 0X407E at 3:11 this morning. Nice to have an easy way to turn closed captions on and off. RPMcCormick 07-26-08, 01:51 PM I have an H20-600 which I purchased before the lease program started. It is currently running software version 0x407E. Recently it started exhibiting a beat in the picture; it is connected to a Sharp LCD monitor via Y Pb Pr. I've tested other devices with the Sharp and they are clean - so it looks like it is the output of the DirecTV box. Any ideas? drbonbi 07-26-08, 02:11 PM I have an H20-600 which I purchased before the lease program started. It is currently running software version 0x407E. Recently it started exhibiting a beat in the picture; it is connected to a Sharp LCD monitor via Y Pb Pr. I've tested other devices with the Sharp and they are clean - so it looks like it is the output of the DirecTV box. Any ideas? What does a "beat in the picture" mean? What do you see? Dana cpcat 07-26-08, 02:27 PM Yes, please explain what you mean by "beat" in the picture. RPMcCormick 07-26-08, 02:34 PM What does a "beat in the picture" mean? What do you see? Most noticeable on a totally black screen like when switching channels ... but also noticeable watching programming as well. There are dark magenta (purplish) coloured lines that are mostly horizontal but varying in height from a few mm to a couple of cm. When these are the thinnest the movement is nearly stationary but as the size of the lines grow the movement increases as well. Interference (beat) is there even when the satellite dish coax is disconnected ... so that tells me it is not something coming back on the dish coax. Not sure if JPG's can be posted here in the forum - if so I'll see if I can put up a picture of what this looks like. cpcat 07-26-08, 02:53 PM Sounds like it could be AC ground loop noise. Not sure why you would notice it after the latest firmware, though. See http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/video_isolation.html RPMcCormick 07-26-08, 03:44 PM Sounds like it could be AC ground loop noise. Not sure why you would notice it after the latest firmware, though. Thanks for the link to a good article. I did consider the ground loop issue. Had just the Sharp monitor and DirecTV box hooked up and nothing else. Same issue. Even removed all connections excepting Y Pb Pr. The issue is only on the component output of the H20. Connecting the composite (yellow RCA) output to a monitor has no issues - excepting it only runs at 480i. I've attached two photos to this post - video1.png and video2.png. The images were cropped from their initial size and reduced from 300 dpi to 100 dpi. The first shows the interference lines when they are small - you can clearly see them in the blue program guide title. The second shows the interference with larger bars ... this is a picture of the left hand size of a SD image; the black on the left is the left black pillar on a 16:9 screen. I'm stumped - but I think there may be something that has degraded within the H20. Just not looking forward to calling DirecTV. The only thing I have not tried is the HDMI - I may go buy a cable and see <sic> what that looks like. cpcat 07-26-08, 03:59 PM I'd try the HDMI and if that doesn't do it try floating the ground by using a cheater plug on the Sharp and/or the H20. Be sure the coax is still unhooked as well and nothing else is hooked up. A cheater plug is for diagnostic purposes only. You shouldn't defeat the safety ground permanently. Once you've determined what the problem is, next is figuring out how to fix it. PatrickGSR94 07-26-08, 10:41 PM Got a question about the IR remote. I have my HD receiver hooked up to a Sony HD CRT display via HDMI. The TV speakers are disabled. I have the audio running via optical to an Onkyo surround receiver. For over 2 years I have always used the DTV remote to switch the box and TV on and off, but the stereo remote to turn the audio on and off. I know I can program the DTV remote to operate the stereo volume and muting by programing either the AV1 or AV2 switch on the remote. However, it would be really nice to get the Volume and Mute keys on the remote to operate my stereo receiver instead of the TV, without having to move the remote switch, since I don't use the TV audio at all. Is this a possibility? Or is my only choice to get some kind of control-all smart remote? Burl 07-27-08, 06:52 PM Yes, you should be able to get your D* remote to control the volume of your stereo without having to switch to AV1 or AV2. I can't recall the exact steps but when you program the D* remote, after selecting the code for your particular stereo, perform the following steps (or something very close to these that will be listed on the screen): 1. av1 or av2 2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks 3. enter 9 9 3 4. press SELECT, now the stereo volume can be controlled even when the remote is not switched to AV1 or AV2. PatrickGSR94 07-27-08, 11:07 PM awesome, that worked perfectly. However, I can't seem to turn on the stereo w/ the DTV remote, even when the switch is in the AV1 position. I can turn it off w/ the PWR button in the AV1 position, but can't turn it back on. Odd. bronxct1 08-19-08, 03:38 PM Thanks for the link to a good article. I did consider the ground loop issue. Had just the Sharp monitor and DirecTV box hooked up and nothing else. Same issue. Even removed all connections excepting Y Pb Pr. The issue is only on the component output of the H20. Connecting the composite (yellow RCA) output to a monitor has no issues - excepting it only runs at 480i. I've attached two photos to this post - video1.png and video2.png. The images were cropped from their initial size and reduced from 300 dpi to 100 dpi. The first shows the interference lines when they are small - you can clearly see them in the blue program guide title. The second shows the interference with larger bars ... this is a picture of the left hand size of a SD image; the black on the left is the left black pillar on a 16:9 screen. I'm stumped - but I think there may be something that has degraded within the H20. Just not looking forward to calling DirecTV. The only thing I have not tried is the HDMI - I may go buy a cable and see <sic> what that looks like. I have this same exact problem and it has only started recently....It will go and come throughout the day but nothing I do on my end can get rid of it totally. HDMI out looks fine though...my tv only has dvi in so i borrowed a hdmi to dvi cable and the picture is fine. I'll have to get one of my own. RPMcCormick 08-19-08, 03:54 PM I have this same exact problem and it has only started recently....It will go and come throughout the day but nothing I do on my end can get rid of it totally. HDMI out looks fine though...my tv only has dvi in so i borrowed a hdmi to dvi cable and the picture is fine. I'll have to get one of my own. Interesting ... I have yet to pick up an HDMI cable - my Sharp LCD has the appropriate connection. It indeed seems to be with the H20 box itself. I had the box powered off for a week and immediately after powering on it exhibited the problem. Although I thought it may be heat related I have no correlation as to whether temp matters. veryoldschool 08-22-08, 01:26 PM I'm coming in here late, since this thread has been "dead" for some time. Ground loops can be tough to resolve, but there shouldn't be anything in the H20 to be the cause, other than that the H20 is grounded. Analog to TV connections, simply pass the voltage to "the best" ground and if this is the H20, then the TV will have bars floating up/down on it, due to 60 cycles passing along the ground [video cables] between the two. A Digital connection doesn't care, but it still isn't good to have the voltage on a ground as "something" isn't right, which could be a safety issue. There is a thread over on DBSTalk over just this [but a HR model] and in the end it was a portable heater being used in the fan only mode that was the cause of a "noisy" ground. RPMcCormick 08-22-08, 01:46 PM I'm coming in here late, since this thread has been "dead" for some time. Ground loops can be tough to resolve, but there shouldn't be anything in the H20 to be the cause, other than that the H20 is grounded.(snip) No problems VOS with being late - thanks for the additional feedback. I have isolated this as follows: the Sharp LCD monitor and the H20 receiver are plugged into the same outlet. And only the three video (Y Pb Pr) cables connect the two devices together. (Of course there is also a single cable going out to the LNB array.) No other connections. The problem is not seen when a different Y Pb Pr source is plugged into the Sharp monitor. And the problem *is* seen when connect the H20 output to a different display. It is intermittant - sometimes for hours the degradation will be there and at other times it is not noticable. I suspect (especially noting the heat generated by this box) that there may be something in the H20 that is failing - possibly some caps or other component(s) making internal ground loops? The composite (yellow RCA) output does NOT exhibit the problem; I have yet to get an HDMI cable connected between these units to see if the issue is evident with that method of connection. veryoldschool 08-22-08, 05:45 PM No problems VOS with being late - thanks for the additional feedback. I have isolated this as follows: the Sharp LCD monitor and the H20 receiver are plugged into the same outlet. And only the three video (Y Pb Pr) cables connect the two devices together. (Of course there is also a single cable going out to the LNB array.) No other connections. The problem is not seen when a different Y Pb Pr source is plugged into the Sharp monitor. And the problem *is* seen when connect the H20 output to a different display. It is intermittant - sometimes for hours the degradation will be there and at other times it is not noticable. I suspect (especially noting the heat generated by this box) that there may be something in the H20 that is failing - possibly some caps or other component(s) making internal ground loops? The composite (yellow RCA) output does NOT exhibit the problem; I have yet to get an HDMI cable connected between these units to see if the issue is evident with that method of connection. "Not to sound like a broken record" [yeah I know few may remember them]. I doubt there is anything failing in your H20. Since you say it "comes and goes", I'd look to see what is changing in your house [A/C on/off? etc.] Your SAT feed should be grounded and "I think" the H20 has a three prong plug too. [both of mine are stowed away so I can't just go see]. "I'd bet" your other equipment isn't using 3 prong plugs. Again, we just when through this on the other forum, and had everybody "chime in", most of which just "clouded" the issue. "In this case" it was with a recorder so the SAT cables could be removed while watching a recording. This "proved" the HR was the ground of "the loop" and with some detective work the op was able to walk around the house and switch off everything [well I think he went to the power panel and switched off/on breakers] and then went one by one until he found "the heater". He had two [same model] and "one did and one didn't". "It seems" one had a miss-wired capacitor on the thermostat, which put "noise" [voltage] on the neutral line than was going to ground through the TV to HR to SAT feed. RPMcCormick 08-22-08, 06:10 PM Problem happens with both units plugged into the same duplex outlet. Also happens with both units plugged into an outlet strip plugged into a single outlet. Happens plugged into two different outlets on different circuit breakers. Happens with 3-prong to 2-prong adapters (e.g., removing the ground pin) from the AC mains. Happens with the power plugs plugged in either way (neutral and supply swapped). Happens with the dish disconnected from the H20 box. In the testing scenario(s) - no other equipment is connected to the Sharp monitor or H20 or the associated power mains. The only other idea that I have not tried is what you suggested about something else in the house - when I have some time (and the box is exhibiting the problem) I'll look at shutting down each circuit to see if it disappears. cpcat 09-16-08, 07:41 PM FYI Just got a call from D* stating that they have identified a "problem" with the H20-600 and offering free replacement. I have two and don't have any issues. The CSR said it was a issue with constant resetting going on. Seems like I remember this being discussed before here. Are they simply late in recognizing an old issue or is this new? Anyhow, I'm staying put as I like the OTA tuner in the H20-600. I did add the service protection plan though just in case. veryoldschool 09-17-08, 11:29 AM FYI Just got a call from D* stating that they have identified a "problem" with the H20-600 and offering free replacement. I have two and don't have any issues. The CSR said it was a issue with constant resetting going on. Seems like I remember this being discussed before here. Are they simply late in recognizing an old issue or is this new? Anyhow, I'm staying put as I like the OTA tuner in the H20-600. I did add the service protection plan though just in case. "Replacements", yes, but most aren't getting a H20-600. Scott Pro 10-08-08, 06:20 PM I have a question about my H21. Several times now, when autotuning a show that begins at the top of the hour, the unit has delayed turning on until 5 minutes after the hour. Anybody know what's going on? nunofyerbisnes 11-10-08, 01:07 AM I have a Phillips PMDVR8 universal remote that I'd like to use to control a DirecTV D11-500 receiver. However, I can't find a code to do so. If anyone knows a code which will work, please tell me. Is there is a more appropriate thread on which I should ask this question? Thanks for any help. nunofyerbisnes 11-15-08, 12:03 AM I have a Phillips PMDVR8 universal remote that I'd like to use to control a DirecTV D11-500 receiver. However, I can't find a code to do so. If anyone knows a code which will work, please tell me. Is there is a more appropriate thread on which I should ask this question? Thanks for any help. I just discovered that the code "567" seems to work, but I believe I'll have to "teach" most (if not all) functions, especially including "power on/off". Perhaps this will be helpful to someone else. :) StevenC56 11-15-08, 09:26 PM I have a brand new in the box H20-600. I bought it 2.5 years ago and never used it. I never upgraded to HD and I'm leaving Direct now. If anybody is interested PM me. rollercoaster 11-16-08, 10:14 PM FYI Just got a call from D* stating that they have identified a "problem" with the H20-600 and offering free replacement. I have two and don't have any issues. The CSR said it was a issue with constant resetting going on. Seems like I remember this being discussed before here. Are they simply late in recognizing an old issue or is this new? Anyhow, I'm staying put as I like the OTA tuner in the H20-600. I did add the service protection plan though just in case.I have 2 of these receivers that are about 2.5 years old. In September, one of them quit working and D* gave me a hassle and made a technician come to my house who immediately agreed with me to replace the box. Last week the other one would not even boot up and would not get past searching for signal. To prove it was a problem with the box and not the wiring I swapped the receivers and the bad one was still bad and the good one was still good. I called D* yesterday ready for a fight and they immediately offered to send a replacement. My first box was replaced with a H23. When I get my second replacement I will also call to complain about no OTA receiver. It's difficult to explain to your young daughter why she can't watch her favorite shows on PBSHD. Personally, I feel the H20 was a bad design. The H23 seems superior in every way except it doesn't have an OTA tuner. The B band converter is integrated into the receiver and it uses half of the electricity. The H20's get exceptionally hot. The white security card in each receiver has been literally cooked and now they are brown. Has anyone else had similar experiences with this receiver? drbonbi 11-16-08, 10:44 PM I have 2 of these receivers that are about 2.5 years old. In September, one of them quit working and D* gave me a hassle and made a technician come to my house who immediately agreed with me to replace the box. Last week the other one would not even boot up and would not get past searching for signal. To prove it was a problem with the box and not the wiring I swapped the receivers and the bad one was still bad and the good one was still good. I called D* yesterday ready for a fight and they immediately offered to send a replacement. My first box was replaced with a H23. When I get my second replacement I will also call to complain about no OTA receiver. It's difficult to explain to your young daughter why she can't watch her favorite shows on PBSHD. Personally, I feel the H20 was a bad design. The H23 seems superior in every way except it doesn't have an OTA tuner. The B band converter is integrated into the receiver and it uses half of the electricity. The H20's get exceptionally hot. The white security card in each receiver has been literally cooked and now they are brown. Has anyone else had similar experiences with this receiver? The H20-600s are notorious for running hot which probably explains their relatively short in-service life span. There are exceptions. I bought one (with a rebate) before D* switched to a lease-only plan and it seemed to run fine without excessive heat. I left D* for a few months (a mistake) and had to return it to D* because of the rebate. When I returned in October a year ago, I received a couple of H20-600 refurbs that looked pretty beat. I didn't need OTA so I returned them and leased two H21-200s which are running cool and work well. We also have an H20-100 that seems to be working well. Dana rollercoaster 11-20-08, 08:31 PM To continue my story, I received a H20-100 as a replacement. I called to activate the replacement receiver and complained that my first replacement doesn't have OTA capability. The CSR said they had to check something and then told me they would order me another receiver with an antenna input to replace the H23. Apparently when they order a replacement receiver, they are asked if the customer needs an antenna. cpcat 11-21-08, 08:08 AM There still isn't an OTA tuner that surpasses the one in the H20-600. I'm hoping LG will eventually put their 6th gen. tuner in something soon other than CECB or a display. When my H20-600's die (2 still going strong) I will probably use the Samsung 260 OTA tuner as it is the next best IMO. StevenC56 11-21-08, 10:38 PM There still isn't an OTA tuner that surpasses the one in the H20-600. I'm hoping LG will eventually put their 6th gen. tuner in something soon other than CECB or a display. When my H20-600's die (2 still going strong) I will probably use the Samsung 260 OTA tuner as it is the next best IMO. I still have one of these H20-600 receivers new in the box never activated with access card and all the accessories in the sealed packages! If anybody is interested please PM me. I can send pictures of the box with the flaps opened to show the new untouched unit and all the goodies!:cool: Miah586 12-13-08, 11:43 PM RPMcCormick, have you been able to figure out what was causing the purple-ish lines on your picture? My H20-600 is about 2 years old now, and just started making those lines a few weeks ago. I'm just starting to investigate what is causing it, but I know through trouble shooting measures it is not the TV or cable, and it is definitely coming from the receiver's component output. RPMcCormick 12-14-08, 12:08 PM RPMcCormick, have you been able to figure out what was causing the purple-ish lines on your picture?My best guess is some component failure in the Y Pb Pr output circuitry. Connected an HDMI cable between the H20 and the Sharp LCD and the issue is gone. Unfortunately I own my box - having purchased it when these first became available. So no option to have it replaced by DirecTV Giving some serious thought though to maybe getting the DirecTV HD DVR next year - especially since DirecTV has cancelled the HDPC-20 device (which would have let me record with Windows Media Centre). HomieDaClown 12-19-08, 06:32 PM I own an H20-600 DTV receiver along with a 52" 120Hz LG HDTV LCD. What would be the best picture settings on the H20? Is it best to have native set to on and 1080i as the only resolution available? Thanks in advance. RPMcCormick 12-19-08, 06:35 PM I own an H20 DTV receiver along with a 52" 120Hz LG HDTV LCD. What would be the best picture settings on the H20? Is it best to have native set to on and 1080i as the only resolution available? Thanks in advance.Yes - that is what I do - only choose 1080i. If you choose other settings you may find the box actually switches its output to match the program (between HD and SD). The more recent firmware versions do a good job of displaying the menus and program guide over whatever video spec's a channel is using. Good Luck! HomieDaClown 12-19-08, 06:36 PM Yes - that is what I do - only choose 1080i. If you choose other settings you may find the box actually switches its output to match the program (between HD and SD). The more recent firmware versions do a good job of displaying the menus and program guide over whatever video spec's a channel is using. Good Luck!Have you noticed any picture quality loss when viewing native 720p programs @ 1080i upscaled? RPMcCormick 12-19-08, 06:38 PM Have you noticed any picture quality loss when viewing native 720p programs @ 1080i upscaled?No. The majority of my viewing is DirecTV satellite feeds. Any of the local ATSC stations that I watch off-air are all 1080i for their HD. I have a Sharp Aquos LCD TV/monitor. HomieDaClown 12-19-08, 06:41 PM No. The majority of my viewing is DirecTV satellite feeds. Any of the local ATSC stations that I watch off-air are all 1080i for their HD. I have a Sharp Aquos LCD TV/monitor.What about Fox and ESPN? All of their content is native 720p. RPMcCormick 12-19-08, 07:19 PM What about Fox and ESPN? All of their content is native 720p.Don't watch any ESPN. Not sure what the native encode parameters are on DirecTV - it may be re-encoded. I have FOX in HD via DirecTV providing WNYW FOX5 from New York City. Off air my local FOX station is a sub-channel on the ABC affiliate and is only SD. I can also receive a distant market FOX affiliate off air but since I have WNYW I don't bother. (The New York station is better.) drbonbi 12-19-08, 08:55 PM What about Fox and ESPN? All of their content is native 720p. The only question is whether the D* HD box or your TV upconverts the signal better to the native resolution of your TV. Dana HomieDaClown 12-19-08, 11:50 PM The only question is whether the D* HD box or your TV upconverts the signal better to the native resolution of your TV. DanaWhat's the easiest way to find out? drbonbi 12-20-08, 07:43 AM What's the easiest way to find out? Try it both ways. First, set the D* HD box to "Native." The STB will pass through the resolution as it is received from the source. Your TV will do all the upconversion. (One downside is that there will be a momentary handshake between the receiver and the TV every time you change channels.) Second, turn Native off and set the STB output to whatever the native resolution is of your TV. 720p, 1080i or 1080p. Now the D* STB is doing all the upconversion. No handshakes either. Then you decide which option looks best. Dana HomieDaClown 12-20-08, 03:20 PM Try it both ways. First, set the D* HD box to "Native." The STB will pass through the resolution as it is received from the source. Your TV will do all the upconversion. (One downside is that there will be a momentary handshake between the receiver and the TV every time you change channels.) Second, turn Native off and set the STB output to whatever the native resolution is of your TV. 720p, 1080i or 1080p. Now the D* STB is doing all the upconversion. No handshakes either. Then you decide which option looks best. DanaI tried that but it's so hard to tell the difference since I don't have DVR and can't pause the picture. drbonbi 12-20-08, 03:29 PM I tried that but it's so hard to tell the difference since I don't have DVR and can't pause the picture. You don't have to examine every pixel. ;) Personally, I let the D* HD STB do the upconversion to eliminate the native pass-through handshaking. It is unlikely that the TV has better conversion chips than the STB has. As you say, you can't tell the difference. Relax and enjoy the picture! Dana HomieDaClown 12-20-08, 04:34 PM You don't have to examine every pixel. ;) Personally, I let the D* HD STB do the upconversion to eliminate the native pass-through handshaking. It is unlikely that the TV has better conversion chips than the STB has. As you say, you can't tell the difference. Relax and enjoy the picture! DanaI'll disable native and leave only 1080i as a usable resolution then. Thanks folks! Buckeye5 01-15-09, 01:09 PM For tufamc: I did some test with my H20 and my AV receiver using HDMI Normal channel are in Stereo HD channel are either in DD (Discovery HD and some other) or PL II (tested with VH1 HD). I do have the version 404a of the firmware so all is working with my H20. So either your HDMI output on the H20 has a problem or may be you changed some settings on your AV receiver ? My receiver is an Onkyo TX-SR605 and sound format detection is set to auto. Rodolphe I have the problem with no DD with HDMI cord, but I do get DD when I have the toslink connect to audio. This results in lip sync issue. I have the H20 and the latest firmware I believe 407A. Audio is hooked up through Yamaha receiver, DD works for Bluray player. What do I need to do to get the HDMI working with DD? rpineau 01-18-09, 01:38 PM I have the problem with no DD with HDMI cord, but I do get DD when I have the toslink connect to audio. This results in lip sync issue. I have the H20 and the latest firmware I believe 407A. Audio is hooked up through Yamaha receiver, DD works for Bluray player. What do I need to do to get the HDMI working with DD? I have a H20 with firmware 407E . It's connected via HDMI to a Onkyo TX-SR605 and DD is working fine on the channel where it's present. At that point I'll check your HDMI audio config on the receiver. Rodolphe mike171979 01-24-09, 08:24 PM I have an H20-600 in one of my bedrooms and I just reset the thing, because it was pixelating some HD channels. Anyway, now after the reset, it only picks up the 70s and 80s HD channels. All of the HD channels, including the locals, are black and just say 771. So I went through the Sat. Set Up and got these results: Satellite 101: OK Satellite 110: OK Satellite 119: OK Satellite 99a: FAILED Satellite 99b: OK Then it says "Your dish type is set to 5LNB, Mulit-Sat, but the receiver detected 0 satellite" WTF???????? I have 2 other H20-100's in the house, that are set to 5LNB and work perfectly with all of the HD Channels coming in perfectly. Could this H20-600 be defective, or could the BBC be defective, but then, WHY would it only cause the one satellite to Fail, and not all of them if that was the case??? generallee 02-25-09, 12:49 PM Help I have a H20 DTV receiver on my HDTV The receiver does not show who made it (m. I wanted to use a AVR remote instead of the DTV remote td o control the DTV H20 (made in mexico). When I looked up the remote codes for the satalite receiver in the manual ? can anybody give me the code? oktoberrust11 05-11-09, 11:50 AM Hi guys, a quick question. I'm moving my H20 downstairs, but hope to output it to 3 separate sources. The 3 TV's will never be on at the same time. First TV to a Toshiba CRT RPTV, will do component and optical audio here Second is a Westinghouse LCD, will do HDMI here Third is an old 25" CRT, will do either composite or s-video and analog audio My two questions are: How do you think HD channels will show on the 25"? Will the picture be "squeezed" in to fit? Second, if I have the Dolby Digital output set to "on", will I still get analog audio out of the RCA's? Or would I need to turn it "off" before watching that TV? Thanks, Matt ginnywop 05-20-09, 01:50 PM I finally got my new receiver (Denon 3808ci) hooked up last night...very pleased with movies and music alike. Something did rain a little on my parade though . I picked up some new RG6 coax (Belden) from Blue Jeans because I was tired of the unnecessary jumbled mess of the 25 foot run that Direct TV put in when I had it installed. Purchased a 10 foot run to go from the wall to my power center, then two 3 foot runs for the SWM box/2nd tuner. Hooked everything up the same way, turned on the Direct TV receiver and got nothing, no signal. I thought maybe I spaced something, but went upstairs and noticed the same thing on the bedroom tuner box, no signal there either. I'm no expert on satellite cabling, but it seems to me if both boxes are not getting a signal, then the problem is at the dish, or somewhere BEFORE the line hits the splitter in the garage (from the splitter in the garage I have one line going into the HT room, and one going upstairs to the bedroom), and would have nothing to do with the new cables I used in the HT room. Anyway, it just seemed like a strange coincidence that my satellite would go out around the same time I hook up a new receiver and run new coax from the wall. I have a guy coming out tomorrow to take a look. Irritating since I wanted to play around with some of the DSP and PLII modes for 2 channel sources, but hopefully it's fixed tomorrow. rad 05-20-09, 01:54 PM Since you have a SWM, make sure that the output from the power supply (IIRC it's the red insert coax connector) it going to the SWM and not your receivers, sounds like the SWM isn't receiving power. oktoberrust11 05-20-09, 01:55 PM Is the bedroom box fed off of the SWM splitter where you installed the new audio receiver? ginnywop 05-20-09, 02:32 PM Since you have a SWM, make sure that the output from the power supply (IIRC it's the red insert coax connector) it going to the SWM and not your receivers, sounds like the SWM isn't receiving power. I have everything hooked up the same way as before actually...a 10 foot run of coax from the wall to the 'in' jack of my Panamax 4300. Then a 3 foot run from the 'out' jack of the Panamax to the 'Power to SWM' jack on the SWM splitter. Then another 3 foot run from the 'Signal to IRD' jack on the splitter to the DTV receiver. All pieces are connected the same way, the only difference being the use of new Blue Jeans RG6 coax and the new receiver (connected to DTV receiver via HDMI). They had me run all of the tests last night...unplugging the SWM box, disonnecting coax, etc. The SWM green power light still comes on when I plug it in so it seems to be getting power okay. This is what's throwing me off...since my DTV box in the bedroom is having the same issue though, I don't know how it could be anything at the HT end of it. If the bedroom DTV box was okay, I'd say I definitely screwed something up at the HT end...but being that the issue is affecting both boxes (that are split in the garage, before the HT end comes into play), I don't know how it could be anything 'inside' the house...though I freely admit I don't know much about satellite cable runs! Also, I couldn't find the power inserter last night so I think it must be up on the roof near the dish...CS said that may be the issue. Thanks for your help guys. ginnywop 05-20-09, 02:33 PM Is the bedroom box fed off of the SWM splitter where you installed the new audio receiver? No, the bedroom box (just the standard DTV box, not a DVR) just goes straight to the wall, which then runs straight down to the splitter in the garage. rad 05-20-09, 02:36 PM I have everything hooked up the same way as before actually...a 10 foot run of coax from the wall to the 'in' jack of my Panamax 4300. Then a 3 foot run from the 'out' jack of the Panamax to the 'Power to SWM' jack on the SWM splitter. Then another 3 foot run from the 'Signal to IRD' jack on the splitter to the DTV receiver. I'd try removing the Panamax from the connection and see if that fixes it. ginnywop 05-20-09, 02:41 PM I'd try removing the Panamax from the connection and see if that fixes it. Yeah, that was one thing I did try last night...to no avail. I had everything hooked up through the Panamax for the past 6 months though and had no issues. I should add that the SWM box is located right behind my DTV DVR in the HT room, AFTER the signal is split in the garage. That's the reason I don't think it has anything to do with the line going to the HT. If something is wrong at the HT end (after the signal is split in the garage), how could it affect the signal going to the bedroom? Here is a quick flow-chart for each display if it helps: HT Room: Dish>>>PI>>>splitter in garage>>> straight downstairs to the Panamax>>>SWM splitter>>>DTV receiver (HD DVR) Bedroom: Dish>>>PI>>>splitter in garage>>>straight upstairs to the DTV receiver (standard DTV box, not a DVR) pato_ma 06-13-09, 11:44 AM With the switch yesterday I lost channel 7-1 and 7-2. I rescaned today and now it list two 7-1 and 7-2. If I check the signal meter only two of the 7's have power. My set only recognizes the two that don't have power. Anybody know what I can do to make it see the ones that have power? RoyGBiv 06-13-09, 01:14 PM With the switch yesterday I lost channel 7-1 and 7-2. I rescaned today and now it list two 7-1 and 7-2. If I check the signal meter only two of the 7's have power. My set only recognizes the two that don't have power. Anybody know what I can do to make it see the ones that have power? I lost 7-1 last night, and didn't realize it while I was recording the Stanley Cup Finals and missed the first period. I knew that WHDH was changing to their VHF signal, and I knew it was going to be 1 minute before midnight, so I thought I'd be OK. I guess D* flipped their switch early not knowing when the change would happen. I just reran antenna setup on my HR20, and I have both 7-1 and 7-2 coming it at nearly 100% signal in RI. I will rerun antenna setup on my other two DVRs later today. SMK cpcat 06-21-09, 09:24 AM I've noticed a bug with recent software on my H20-600. Whenever you activate the guide, press the info button, or use menu functions the audio is lost momentarily. This seems to only occur with some channels and not others. Ronomy 07-04-09, 12:27 AM Today I installed a SWM LNB and 4 way switch. My H20-100 and HR20-100 work fine but my H20-600 will not work. The new software was downloaded and installed and it looks like SWM is setup on the H20-600 but I don't get any SAT signal. Anyone see this problem after setting up a SWM LNB? I verified the cables are all fine...even moved the H20-600 to one of the working locations and same thing. No SAT signal. I wonder if maybe some versions of H20's have old hardware that doesn't support SWM. Now I have to call DirecTV abd see if they will send me a new receiver. They will probably want to send a tech out and charge me $80. Thanks, Ron Ronomy 07-04-09, 12:36 AM I have an H20-600 in one of my bedrooms and I just reset the thing, because it was pixelating some HD channels. Anyway, now after the reset, it only picks up the 70s and 80s HD channels. All of the HD channels, including the locals, are black and just say 771. So I went through the Sat. Set Up and got these results: Satellite 101: OK Satellite 110: OK Satellite 119: OK Satellite 99a: FAILED Satellite 99b: OK Then it says "Your dish type is set to 5LNB, Mulit-Sat, but the receiver detected 0 satellite" WTF???????? I have 2 other H20-100's in the house, that are set to 5LNB and work perfectly with all of the HD Channels coming in perfectly. Could this H20-600 be defective, or could the BBC be defective, but then, WHY would it only cause the one satellite to Fail, and not all of them if that was the case??? Interesting! This is what happened when I switched to a SWM setup today but in my case all SAT transponders read zero except for one or two that read near 100. It also is a H20-600. It was working fine with the AU9 LNB but I wanted to fix the low transponder readings on the old B-band converter setup on tuner 2 of my HR20. The SWM fixed that issue but now my H20-600 doesn't work. Ron rad 07-04-09, 10:48 AM Today I installed a SWM LNB and 4 way switch. My H20-100 and HR20-100 work fine but my H20-600 will not work. The new software was downloaded and installed and it looks like SWM is setup on the H20-600 but I don't get any SAT signal. Anyone see this problem after setting up a SWM LNB? I verified the cables are all fine...even moved the H20-600 to one of the working locations and same thing. No SAT signal. I wonder if maybe some versions of H20's have old hardware that doesn't support SWM. Now I have to call DirecTV abd see if they will send me a new receiver. They will probably want to send a tech out and charge me $80. Thanks, Ron No problems with my H20-600 and a SWM8 (not SWMLNB). Ronomy 07-05-09, 08:37 PM No problems with my H20-600 and a SWM8 (not SWMLNB). I am SWMLNB. No go! Can't get it to work. Looks like I'll have to see if DirectV will send me a new receiver. Maybe I can talk to someone in the technical department rather than the people that first answer the phone. They don't know anything but to ask a boiler plate of questions and tasks that I have already gone through. Very irritating to say the least. bassen 07-31-09, 01:52 AM We had a big storm yesterday and after a big power hit my H20 is getting poor signal strength. There's no programming, an empty guide, and the wrong time, but otherwise the receiver seems to work fine. The signal strength chart is mostly zeros with a few numbers around 50. I hooked up a different receiver and it seems fine, so I'm guessing the dish and coax connection are OK. I tried the reset button with no effect. Would one of the more invasive resets help or should I start looking for a new H20? I'm not crazy about having DirecTV replace it because I'm sure I wouldn't get another H20 and I'd really like to keep the ATSC tuner. Do you guys have any ideas? Mr_Frog 08-23-09, 01:51 AM I apologize if this has already been answered. I looked, but couldn't see this exact question anywhere. I just bought an h20-600 to use it's OTA tuner. I went through the setup, and of course it found no satellite, but I continued, and when it asked for a zip for local OTA, it thought for awhile, then said invalid zip. I exited setup, then manually had it scan for channels. It found all the ones it should have, and the picture looked good, but it popped up a box saying I needed to insert an access card. I can flip channels, but the insert access card message is always on top of the picture. Is there any way to turn that off? I don't have, and thought I wouldn't need an access card, since I am only interested the OTA programming. Thanks a ton.! Burl 08-23-09, 03:58 PM My understanding is that the H20-100 and H20-600 units require an access card and a subscription in order to use the OTA tuner. I have a couple of the older Directv receivers that I am not using, a Toshiba DST-3000 and a Hughes HIRD-E86 HDTV receiver that have OTA tuners which do not require a subscription. I currently use H20-100 and HJ20-600 receivers but have subscriptions for them. Do you want to swap the H20-600 for a Hughes receiver? If not, you will either need to get a subscription for your H20 or return it to the seller. Mr_Frog 08-23-09, 05:53 PM Thanks, Jeff. I was hoping that I could just get rid of the message, since I can actually get the OTA channels. Looks like the Hughes doesn't have an HDMI out, which is what I need. Thanks though, for the quick reply and offer. Burl 08-23-09, 07:30 PM You are correct. The Hughes does not have HDMI out. I am surprised that you can even get the OTA channels without a subscription. I think I have heard of others that could not get that far. Of course, I'm sure the on-screen message is still unacceptable. I hope you find something that works - I don't recall any brands or models but I know that there are some OTA only HDTV receivers. Perhaps one or more of these has HDMI. Good luck to you. ppasteur 08-23-09, 08:17 PM I got a Centronics ZAT502 HD a few months back. It is a standalone unit and requires nothing but an antenna connection. It has HDMI out, plus somponent and S_VIDEO. It is pretty sensitive and deals with my multipath issues better than either the H20-100 or H20-600 that I have. I suppose it should because the chipset it uses is a couple of generations newer. It was about $85 delivered. I think that there are some threads on it at AVS. It has got some pretty good reviews. BTW, I don't think that there is any work around for using the H20 without a subscription. Phil Thanks, Jeff. I was hoping that I could just get rid of the message, since I can actually get the OTA channels. Looks like the Hughes doesn't have an HDMI out, which is what I need. Thanks though, for the quick reply and offer. pclement 10-27-09, 12:16 PM I moved my Onkyo 605 to my family room that has a DirecTV H20. I programmed the D* remote for the Onkyo, but it will only turn the receiver off, not on. Has anyone gotten an H20 remote to turn on and off an Onkyo 605? Thanks. pclement 11-06-09, 12:27 PM Any response?? davidgmckee 01-03-10, 02:58 PM H20 and POWERMID IR Does anyone know, do these two devices play nice together? Lsollee 01-03-10, 03:31 PM Yes, I've been using it with the H20 for 2 years without any problems. Whotfay 01-05-10, 04:24 PM I moved my Onkyo 605 to my family room that has a DirecTV H20. I programmed the D* remote for the Onkyo, but it will only turn the receiver off, not on. Has anyone gotten an H20 remote to turn on and off an Onkyo 605? Thanks. Any response?? I have an Onkyo 503. I programmed the AV1 position to turn on the receiver and the AV2 position to turn it off. It works for me as i don't need those for other components. Whotfay 01-05-10, 04:33 PM H20 and POWERMID IR Does anyone know, do these two devices play nice together? Yes, I've been using it with the H20 for 2 years without any problems. Yes, mine works fine too. My Powermid which I used to use to crank music from my downstairs receiver to my upstairs speakers sat in my drawer in the box for many years. Now it's coming in handy to mirror my H-20 from my TV Room to the bedroom. Glad I hung on to it. tsmit32 01-20-10, 01:40 PM I have a Directv receiver (H20-100) and a Directv DVR (HR21-700) both connected to TV/Monitors via HDMI. The H20 is connected to a new HP 2509 monitor. When the H20 is turned off the HP 2509 still has light on the screen and never enters sleep mode. If I connect the HP 2509 to the HR21 DVR the screen will go black and enter sleep mode when I turn off the DVR like you would expect it to do. Is this a departure from the HDMI standard? I have a lot of equipment with HDMI hooked up but the H20-100 is the only device that fails to remove all of the signal when turned off. I contacted Directv tech support and they refused to admit that there is a problem with the H20. They offered a replacement if I would pay for the new box. I'm paying for the Protection Plan and have been with Directv since 1993, so I called customer retention and they are sending a new box for free but it could be another H20. Any ideas out there about the H20 not shutting off the HDMI port? Hotkey 08-22-10, 10:44 AM Noob on DirecTV with HDDVR. Loving it so far compared to old cable company. I'm looking to record all TV programs in the FISHING Category but I can't figure out how to do it. Can someone help please? Thanks. Scott Pro 08-22-10, 11:44 AM You posted your DVR question in the H20 non-DVR thread. Try searching for your model, find the proper thread, and then ask your Q. oktoberrust11 12-13-10, 05:30 PM Hope people still see replies to this thread. I have an old RCA SD box that was starting to crap out on me, so I found an owned, clear H20 on eBay to purchase, as I just got out of contract with DirecTV, and didn't want to re-up. I received it, hooked it up, and things were fine for the first few weeks. Then yesterday, between the snow and a 1-second blip power outage, the receiver seems to be kaputt. If I re-boot, it just stays @ 0% on the "Receiving satellite info" screen. Then aftera few minutes, it will go to a blank screen. If I try to change the channels, I get this: http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6093/directv.jpg If I press the Guide button, I get this (I have "All Channels" selected): http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5176/directvguide.jpg I can still get to the menu and navigate just fine, and it can obviously still see the satellite: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3603/directvmenu.jpg Any suggestions? I know it was a risk buying a used H20, but I didn't want to renew my commitment. I'm almost $100 into this with the new access card. Thanks. Rich51567 12-13-10, 06:21 PM red reset button..... oktoberrust11 12-13-10, 07:19 PM red reset button..... Yea..the reset button and the power cord have been tried many times.. kctobyjoe 12-14-10, 08:35 AM i'd wager service ;-( where i dunno tho Beerstalker 12-14-10, 12:57 PM First, did you call DirecTV and activate this receiver when you got it? Did they send you a new access card? If you answered yes to both of these I would reccoment you go to DriecTVs website or call them and reauthorize services on this receiver. http://www.directv.com/resend If that still doesn't work then give us more information and we can come up with more ideas to try. BTW, if you have the protection plan your owned receiver will be replaced by another owned receiver without requiring a new 2 year agreement. kctobyjoe 12-14-10, 01:27 PM I think he said he did get a new card I had some experience with DTV years ago; anytime yiu get a different/new receiver they FORCE you to get a new card even tho they CAN clear one even wit the new system. Didnt he say it *was* working but hen went south MAYBE I read it wrong We all know electronics; usually ALL or NOTHING! I wish him luck actually!!! oktoberrust11 12-14-10, 03:24 PM Yes, I did call and activate the receiver, and yes, they did send me a new access card. Like I said, it worked fine for a few weeks, but now not so much. I forget about trying to re-send the signal. I'm assuming I'll need to re-activate the receiver before I or they can do that? Good to know about the protection plan.... |