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spyder696969

12-18-07, 05:28 PM

I do have track lighting big mouth. (old pic)

Ahhh. The truth comes out. Someone can certainly dish it out but can't take it. Let's look at your post that started this whole argumentative thing first:

For The Love Of God Please Put That Sony On The Wall. Keep The Bikini Pics Coming Forget About 360 Shots, Lol

Also The Dude With The Red Sofa, Go To Target And Spend Like $80 Buck On A Sofa Cover.

And now mine:

For the love of Glare, please put an area rug down on the floor. Keep the tree pics coming and forget about 360 shots, Lol.

Also, as to the floor lamp, go to Target and spend like $10 bucks on track lighting.

Look familiar? :rolleyes:

I'm sending you $5 via PayPal. Buy a sense of humor with it. :confused:

Hedonist

12-18-07, 05:36 PM

Wow...this thread has certainly devolved big time! I thought most people here would be adults to be able to afford all these setups.

What is really the point for anyone on this thread or this forum in general to call any other user stupid? Attacking another user, even if they feel it's in defense, really doesn't do anything to promote a higher standard.

Before anyone cares to pounce on my non-screenshot post, I have already posted screenshots of my setup in this thread ...so I feel I do have some leeway to make this post.

I have enjoyed looking at all the screenshots, but the last few pages of adolescent finger pointing really has no place on any AVS thread.

Ok...maybe now I should take some fresh pictures to post...though I STILL have been too lazy to hide all the ugly wires. One of these days I'll stop gaming long enough to clean up the wires.

Max Lomax

12-18-07, 05:39 PM

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2103/dsc00240vq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7770/dsc00224lv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/734/dsc00223cp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

106" w/ Epson 1080p

God I love this game.

Uptown193

12-18-07, 05:41 PM

The people that talk crap are just jealous that they dont have a nice setup or any at all. This is why they do not post any pics of their setup. Its funny how u can talk about someone elses setup and you cant even show ur own. LOSERS. The site moderator should ban them from posting anything on this thread.

Uptown193

12-18-07, 05:44 PM

Ahhh. The truth comes out. Someone can certainly dish it out but can't take it. Let's look at your post that started this whole argumentative thing first:

And now mine:

Look familiar? :rolleyes:

I'm sending you $5 via PayPal. Buy a sense of humor with it. :confused:

All i said was i do have track lighting, i was not upset. My man you think i care what u say bout my setup. I know its hot and may people tell me it is, where is you setup pics huh? thought so.

Joey Cusack

12-18-07, 05:49 PM

Actually mine is the HLS5687W and I looked at the HLT5076S and IMO the 87W has better pq as well and less issues with bowing due to a more sturdier frame and bezel. When I checkout the thread for HLT almost all the posts were about issues with bowing and people went thru 3-4 sets that all had the same amount of bowing. I also noticed it at the store. I spent about 30 minutes with the sets until I settled with the 87W.

Sorry for late response. Been over at TXB thread.

Yeah turns out I bought the 6176s. It was a major disappointment!! Nuff said on that!

I got my money back and ordered Samsung's top of the line LCD. LNT4671F! YES SUH! One of the guys over at TXB posted some pics of hi def movies and games on the 71F so you guys can take a look at its awesome PQ! I am sooo excited!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1774id0.jpg?t=1198017732

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1341sk8.jpg?t=1198017881

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1334ml4.jpg?t=1198017911

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1325xx4.jpg?t=1198017941

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1807wm2.jpg?t=1198018001

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1227wr5.jpg?t=1198018052

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1315xg8.jpg?t=1198018118

Save my favorite for last!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1241bo3.jpg?t=1198018169

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD FTW! I should have mine next week shipped from amazon.com! I ofcoruse don't have pics now. but just fyi..my setup will be..

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD LNT4671F
Alienware Desktop PC hook up via vga to the samsung
360 Premium
PS3 60GB

Sound will have to wait...but hey...not bad for a 17 year old.

Hedonist

12-18-07, 05:53 PM

I love GOW screenshots!

spyder696969

12-18-07, 06:33 PM

All i said was i do have track lighting, i was not upset. My man you think i care what u say bout my setup. I know its hot and may people tell me it is, where is you setup pics huh? thought so.

Uptown, Narcissus has absolutely nothing on you. Kudos.

marvincbr

12-18-07, 07:22 PM

Stargate Atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2045171485&size=m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2045171485_c24edb4324.jpg

Is that Scifi in hi def? I have been waiting for that for Stargate and Battlestar Galactica. Please tell me they have started broadcasting in hi def.

Shape

12-18-07, 07:25 PM

whiskey > work

12-18-07, 07:29 PM

All i said was i do have track lighting, i was not upset. My man you think i care what u say bout my setup. I know its hot and may people tell me it is, where is you setup pics huh? thought so.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/24113595955.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6458001)

defboob

12-18-07, 07:43 PM

haha wow I feel bad it seems that my couch has caused a hiccup in this thread. Who would have thought? Let's get back to business and post more in-action pics!

smithfarmer

12-18-07, 10:22 PM

haha wow I feel bad it seems that my couch has caused a hiccup in this thread. Who would have thought? Let's get back to business and post more in-action pics!

Funny thing is, I originally thought he was refereing to DaGamePimps couch since that is the only red couch pic posted prior to his post about a slip cover. The irony of seeing how he felt when the shoe was on the other foot, so to speak, and his responses, was quite hilarious.

Anyway, enough about that subject. I agree with you and think everyone here wants to see this thread continue. To that end, if all of us just let those few acrimonious posts quietly fade away from our memory, this thread can continue as before.

I thought I already had some pics on this thread showing the 360 on my old Infocus 4805 and 120" SilverStar but I can't find them. I've since upgraded to an Infocus 7210 and need to take some new pics anyways and I'll do so this weekend.

briankmonkey

12-18-07, 10:40 PM

smithfarmer

12-18-07, 10:52 PM

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD LNT4671F

I saw this set at BB and was absolutely amazed at the 3D look of the POTC and Pearl Harbor clips they were showing on it. Hands down, the best I've ever seen. I've been thinking of getting one for the family room but personally don't know if I could get used to it.

Most movies are shot on film and they just don't look like film on this set. It's almost too realistic and feels like you're looking at a live news video feed. It's definitely a different look than what we're accustomed to. Video games are an entirely different matter and I'd imagine they'd look unbelievable on this set.

Congrats on your purchase. Look forward to hearing how you like it and definetly seeing some 360 screenshots on it.

SamuraiXmas

12-18-07, 10:53 PM

Shape - How are you liking that TV? I'm considering buying it after the holidays, although it not being wall mountable has me on the fence. You really can't beat it for the price, so I'm not really sure. Nice shots.

Max Lomax - The thought of 100+ inches of COD4 is what keeps a projector on my list, even if it would take double the work to setup, and alot more of a space commitment.

Morkeleb

12-18-07, 10:55 PM

Joey Cusack what is the link that you pulled those pics from? Those pics look incredible, maybe even the best yet?

Viper98

12-18-07, 10:58 PM

Joey Cusack what is the link that you pulled those pics from? Those pics look incredible, maybe even the best yet?

they are from this thread
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=550020

I used to post there till I got banned :(

chad473

12-18-07, 11:04 PM

briankmonkey

12-18-07, 11:19 PM

good lord, posts like this are dangerous to my credit card. that set looks gorgeous.

They have the 52" setup at a local Circuit City and another one at Fry's, it is simply amazing. I definitely want 120hz on my next set. That and the Sony XBR4's are breathtaking. I'm tempted to bring in console just to see how it looks, probably a bad idea as I'd be sold I bet :eek:

RJVR23

12-18-07, 11:35 PM

Is that Scifi in hi def? I have been waiting for that for Stargate and Battlestar Galactica. Please tell me they have started broadcasting in hi def.

Yes, SciFi in HD! :D

DirecTV got it a couple months ago.

So that's what Sci-Fi HD looks like. Too bad my cable company isn't carrying this channel. It's comcastic! Grrr....:mad:

Joey Cusack

12-19-07, 12:04 AM

I saw this set at BB and was absolutely amazed at the 3D look of the POTC and Pearl Harbor clips they were showing on it. Hands down, the best I've ever seen. I've been thinking of getting one for the family room but personally don't know if I could get used to it.

Most movies are shot on film and they just don't look like film on this set. It's almost too realistic and feels like you're looking at a live news video feed. It's definitely a different look than what we're accustomed to. Video games are an entirely different matter and I'd imagine they'd look unbelievable on this set.

Congrats on your purchase. Look forward to hearing how you like it and definetly seeing some 360 screenshots on it.

Thanks. I am very excited!

You should definitely buy one man! amazon.com currently has the 52" for $2555,46" $2100,and finally the 40" for $1550. The 40" to my eyes is still a great size HDTV and the 3d look makes it stand out so much it does not seem so small. That should mean alot coming from me...and my previous 61" DLP.

The 3D look that you are afraid of getting used to is only there if you have AMP turned on. AMP has 3 different settings. High,Med, and low. If you shut it off the amazing PQ will still be there and according to the owners you still get 120hz and a picture only rivaled by the pioneer kuro and plasmas alike and ofcourse the XBR4s and 5s. Though I will say the guy who took those pics I showed earlier had the xbr4 and took it back for this sammy LCD. He noted the samsung had deeper blacks and a more crisp image.

good lord, posts like this are dangerous to my credit card. that set looks gorgeous.

Amazon.com is your friend.

They have the 52" setup at a local Circuit City and another one at Fry's, it is simply amazing. I definitely want 120hz on my next set. That and the Sony XBR4's are breathtaking. I'm tempted to bring in console just to see how it looks, probably a bad idea as I'd be sold I bet :eek:

If you get one GET the samsung.

Heres more from TXB off the samsung 71f series LCD!

I thought it would be interesting to note that the 360 pics posted thus far have all been off component and NOT HDMI which to me is impressive considering the extreme detal and sharpness of the image. and they are JUST pictures on top of that. Also currently the set was calibrated by the owner for movies and not games. This set is TRULY amazing.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1500gx6.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1495lo3.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1540md6.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1382zn6.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1379hd8.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1374eg9.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1240bd0.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1196hw9.jpg

YES SUH!

Viper98

12-19-07, 12:23 AM

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1774id0.jpg?t=1198017732
.
that is very nice looking

for comparison's sake here's a pic of that scene off his other tv(though the pic isn't his it's mine... we have the same DLP)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7969/55193384jn7.jpg

I want to get an LCD too but I think I'm gonna save up for an 81f series tv over the 71f

my camera isn't as good either so you can see a lot of artifacting in my picture that makes it look worse than it really is... but it still doesn't look as natural in person

Joey Cusack

12-19-07, 12:36 AM

that is very nice looking

for comparison's sake here's a pic of that scene off his other tv(though the pic isn't his it's mine... we have the same DLP)

I want to get an LCD too but I think I'm gonna save up for an 81f series tv over the 71f

my camera isn't as good either so you can see a lot of artifacting in my picture that makes it look worse than it really is... but it still doesn't look as natural in person

The detail is what I am looking at anyway. I love how in your pic you can see the water hanging off individual facial hairs. Its sick!

Btw, many have taken back their 81fs noting that the PQ is not great enough to justify the extra cash. But it won't be a bad HDTV thats for sure. For that matter neither will the sony xbr4s. Samsung so far though is beating it even though cnet rates the sony above the samsung our test at teamxbox proves otherwise.

Viper98

12-19-07, 12:51 AM

The detail is what I am looking at anyway. I love how in your pic you can see the water hanging off individual facial hairs. Its sick!

Btw, many have taken back their 81fs noting that the PQ is not great enough to justify the extra cash. But it won't be a bad HDTV thats for sure. For that matter neither will the sony xbr4s. Samsung so far though is beating it even though cnet rates the sony above the samsung our test at teamxbox proves otherwise.

I don't even care about the small difference in video quality

I just want the 81f cuz it's LED based so it should get a tremendously longer life right?

Joey Cusack

12-19-07, 01:03 AM

I don't even care about the small difference in video quality

I just want the 81f cuz it's LED based so it should get a tremendously longer life right?

Here is a quote from a guy here on AVS lntxx71f owners thread who had the 71f and took it back for the 71f who goes by the name JoelTron.

"Okay...after a bit more testing...I'll be returning my 81 and going back to the 71.

My reasons...I really like 120hz AutoMotion on the 71...works very well for gaming. Really...the 71 is a nice jump from the 65...but the 81 not so much from the 71...very disappointing. Playing the Medal Of Honor Airborne demo on 360 makes me want to puke on the 81.

Picture quality on the 81 is very subjective...it really depends on what youre watching. I personally liked the way things looked like on the 71 a little better. I kinda want to try out the XBR4 now...but I'm pretty sure management is going to be pissed off if I try that out and go back to the 71 anyways.

My 2 cents...save your moneys for the 71 or the XBR4...LED local dimming isn't really ready to go yet." End of quote.

Get the 71f. If thats not enough go ask in the thread.

I understand you wanting the LED whihc last longer, but when researching LCDs I come to find out they can last (if taken care of) a maximum of like 70-80,000 hours. Definitely 40,000!

So if you watch that screen 16 hours a day 365 days a year for 3 and a half years...you will have use just over 20,000 hours...so you got 3 and a half years left.

I doubt anyone will do that. So i'd say you are good.

Uptown193

12-19-07, 02:39 AM

Funny thing is, I originally thought he was refereing to DaGamePimps couch since that is the only red couch pic posted prior to his post about a slip cover. The irony of seeing how he felt when the shoe was on the other foot, so to speak, and his responses, was quite hilarious.

The point is don't blame me for something that someone else said, since I am a lawyer I will defend myself. I didn't know suggesting someone to put a slip cover on their sofa was offensive. Thank you.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0237.jpg

Boo-ya.

thejokell

12-19-07, 07:49 AM

since I am a lawyer I will defend myself.

I hate to make another off topic post in this thread - but that is HYSTERICAL! :D

PerfectCr

12-19-07, 08:13 AM

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0237.jpg

Boo-ya.
Best pic yet! :)

Kysersose

12-19-07, 08:29 AM

Guys, back on topic.

Anyone caught bashing someone else's setup will be suspended.
I don't want to hear anything else about it.

Carry on.

Kyser

WilliamR

12-19-07, 08:57 AM

Sony KDS-60A3000. 60" 1080p SXRD RPTV.

Playing Transformers on HD-DVD through the 360 (component and 1080i):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2053529285_b7f75507d4_b.jpg

Stargate Atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2045171485&size=m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2045171485_c24edb4324.jpg

Halftime show of a Patriots game (I think they won this one):
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2045147455&size=m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2373/2045147455_38df858b7f.jpg

Not a bad TV for $1650. :D

I'll try to remember to post some video game pics tonight.

I am so jealous you have SCI-FI in HD. I don't think my Time Warner will ever carry it, they are SOOO behind.

spyder696969

12-19-07, 09:01 AM

I saw this set at BB and was absolutely amazed at the 3D look of the POTC and Pearl Harbor clips they were showing on it. It's almost too realistic and feels like you're looking at a live news video feed. It's definitely a different look than what we're accustomed to...

Weird. I first looked at this set two days ago at CC and thought the exact same thing.

whiskey > work

12-19-07, 09:27 AM

Joey Cusack, that tv is sick!

ogbuehi

12-19-07, 09:50 AM

Shape

12-19-07, 10:08 AM

Shape, how are you liking the A3000? Noticeable improvement with motion in games with the 120hz tech. or is it simply sources like 24p that reap benefits? I assume it does the interpolation like the XBR4 and XBR5 lcd's as well?

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Pretty amazing how a lot of these pics look better than the ones websites put up!

I love the A3000! Yes, it will do interpolation. However, I leave it turned off for video games. If you think about it, the TV would need to have 2 frames of video in order to display the interpolation of the frame inbetween them. This means that video will always be delayed by at least 1/60th of a second, and probably more with interpolation turned on. There is no way around it.

Interpolation works well with some stuff, like football. For movies, like Transformers in HD, the interpolation leads to a seriously creepy effect. Enough to give you nightmares. :) The motion is too smooth. Really hard to describe why it looks so wrong. It makes movies look more like video, for one.

However, when you have the A3000 in Cinemotion Mode 2, it does an AMAZING job with 24fps film. There is no panning judder whatsoever. The picture is very film-like. I'm really impressed with the performance with movies.

The color of this TV is simply incredible. It is almost spot on once you take it out of Vivid mode.

I don't think there is a better value in a big screen TV right now than the A3000.

Shape

12-19-07, 10:09 AM

Wow. I've read the last 2 pages of this thread and I can't believe how little pics of setups are being posted. And I still don't understand why people continue posting pics of an HD image on their tv instead of the setup. We all know that everybody here owns a set capable of displaying HD. We all know that we also can't objectively tell how great your set's display abilities because the of the camera that took the pic and the display we may be using to read this web page. Let's start posting pics of SETUPS.

The topic title is " So, post your 360 screenshots and tv u r using". Isn't that what people are doing? :)

Shape

12-19-07, 10:11 AM

I am so jealous you have SCI-FI in HD. I don't think my Time Warner will ever carry it, they are SOOO behind.

Stargate Atlantis is simply one of the best HD broadcast pictures I have ever seen. No macroblocking at all, sharp as a tack, and the color is incredible, as you can see. Much better than OTA HD. In fact, it is closer to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.

Screw Time Warner. :) Go DirecTV! :)

A couple more blurry pictures.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2045956184&size=m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2045956184_de50d6db9c.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/2045159567_ba51a5e539.jpg

BillKen

12-19-07, 10:52 AM

Mindwarper

12-19-07, 12:33 PM

I also like the set up photos. And the wiring or cabinet set ups. It is so fun to watch. But the the dialog was even better. I felt like I was junior high again.

I believe a while back that someone attempted to start a "Pictures of your Set Up ONLY" thread that got locked down by the mods. Personally I thought it was a nice idea - but I guess the powers that be felt differently. :)

WilliamR

12-19-07, 01:17 PM

Stargate Atlantis is simply one of the best HD broadcast pictures I have ever seen. No macroblocking at all, sharp as a tack, and the color is incredible, as you can see. Much better than OTA HD. In fact, it is closer to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.

Screw Time Warner. :) Go DirecTV! :)

A couple more blurry pictures.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2045956184&size=m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2045956184_de50d6db9c.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/2045159567_ba51a5e539.jpg

Thanks, rub it in. :)

briankmonkey

12-19-07, 01:23 PM

I love the A3000! Yes, it will do interpolation. However, I leave it turned off for video games. If you think about it, the TV would need to have 2 frames of video in order to display the interpolation of the frame inbetween them. This means that video will always be delayed by at least 1/60th of a second, and probably more with interpolation turned on. There is no way around it.

Interpolation works well with some stuff, like football. For movies, like Transformers in HD, the interpolation leads to a seriously creepy effect. Enough to give you nightmares. :) The motion is too smooth. Really hard to describe why it looks so wrong. It makes movies look more like video, for one.

However, when you have the A3000 in Cinemotion Mode 2, it does an AMAZING job with 24fps film. There is no panning judder whatsoever. The picture is very film-like. I'm really impressed with the performance with movies.

The color of this TV is simply incredible. It is almost spot on once you take it out of Vivid mode.

I don't think there is a better value in a big screen TV right now than the A3000.

Sounds freaking sweet! Thanks for the feedback.

I was asking at the LCD forums on a set about if the interpolation would cause lag on games and didn't really get an answer. You pretty muched said what I thought would be the case.

So for movies and stuff, do you have to delay the audio slightly to your receiver or does is the lag so minimal you don't notice audio delay? I watch a ton of movies blu-ray and HD DVD (will need to upgrade to a 24p player eventually)

Shape

12-19-07, 01:25 PM

I haven't noticed the audio preceding the video due to the frame interpolation. I think that 1/60th of a second isn't enough time to notice audio sync issues.

briankmonkey

12-19-07, 01:36 PM

Ok, cool.

Uptown193

12-19-07, 01:56 PM

Best pic yet! :)

Thank you.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0225-2.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0218-2.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0229.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0227-1.jpg

Uptown193

12-19-07, 02:11 PM

Screw Time Warner. :) Go DirecTV! :)

Did you switch from TWC to Direct TV? if so, is there a big difference in PQ and are you more satisfied with Direct TV? I ask b/c im thinking about making the change also.

Shape

12-19-07, 02:14 PM

Did you switch from TWC to Direct TV? if so, is there a big difference in PQ and are you more satisfied with Direct TV? I ask b/c im thinking about making the change also.

No, I had Charter cable. The PQ of DirecTV, even with the old MPEG2 stuff was miles better than the crap that Charter was pushing.

I think that the new MPEG4 HD channels that DirecTV has look really great, and there are tons of them. It all depends on the source material, too, of course. Some episodes of Mythbusters, for example on Discovery HD are pretty soft, but I think that is due to Discovery, not DirecTV.

OceanAve

12-19-07, 02:21 PM

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3985/untitled1cr4.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/180/untitled5aa0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3905/untitled6zc8.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/29/untitled7zp1.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4340/untitled12zn6.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2360/untitled11fk7.jpg
DAMN maybe FORZA 2 does look better than GT5P

Uptown193

12-19-07, 02:28 PM

No, I had Charter cable. The PQ of DirecTV, even with the old MPEG2 stuff was miles better than the crap that Charter was pushing.

I think that the new MPEG4 HD channels that DirecTV has look really great, and there are tons of them. It all depends on the source material, too, of course. Some episodes of Mythbusters, for example on Discovery HD are pretty soft, but I think that is due to Discovery, not DirecTV.

Does the PQ fade and/or picture go out when its raining, cloudy or snowing??

Shape

12-19-07, 02:55 PM

switch42

12-19-07, 04:13 PM

Comcast just got Sci-fi in HD and TLC plus some more....
Woot!!!!!!!!!

WilliamR

12-19-07, 04:16 PM

Comcast just got Sci-fi in HD and TLC plus some more....
Woot!!!!!!!!!

:mad:

percept

12-19-07, 04:34 PM

Here you go dummies, i will help you (read above). now go bother him, bye.

LOL, tattle-tail. :p

If I walked in front of her and cut her off walking inside a mall do you think she would have the audacity to flip me off? Probably not.
Bryan

you'd be surprised. women know that most men won't hit them....especially in broad daylight with as many witnesses as there are in a mall. not that effective of an example, imo, but i know what you're saying.

RobertR1

12-19-07, 05:39 PM

Parasite,

Where are those Pro150 pics!!?!?!!

Max Lomax

12-19-07, 06:50 PM

Best movie eva-The HD version rules:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6383/dsc00252tc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
More COD 4:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/452/dsc00249jg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
106" SmX AT screen
Epson Pro 1080p

Shape

12-19-07, 07:04 PM

Man, if you want to buy a Sony A3000, you had better do it quick. Sony is getting out of the RPTV business. :(

Uptown193

12-19-07, 07:09 PM

LOL, tattle-tail. :p

you'd be surprised. women know that most men won't hit them....especially in broad daylight with as many witnesses as there are in a mall. not that effective of an example, imo, but i know what you're saying.

Hey i was getting all your heat. :mad:

XMotoX

12-19-07, 07:40 PM

DAMN maybe FORZA 2 does look better than GT5P

i dont think thats forza. forza looks like crap

Shape

12-19-07, 07:42 PM

i dont think thats forza. forza looks like crap

That is Forza 2. One of the tracks pictured is Maple Valley, which isn't a real track, and is only featured in Forza 2.

mboojigga

12-19-07, 08:30 PM

i dont think thats forza. forza looks like crap

Now that the facts have been pointed out I am curious. What game did you think that was since Forza 2(which is 1 of 2 games I know that gives you the option to detail your car like that) :D
looks like crap.

Viper98

12-19-07, 10:34 PM

i dont think thats forza. forza looks like crap

umm ya that is Forza 2
but those are crappy pictures

I should take new ones

I got a new 360 thta came with forza 2 in box so I might play again

SamuraiXmas

12-20-07, 12:31 AM

I might get rain fade once or twice a year. The picture just goes away completely. I've never considered it a big issue since it is brief (less than a half hour) and so rare.

Plus, if you ever miss a show due to it, shows on cable channels are re-run all the time. And shows on networks are available on the internet. I've never missed anything due to rain fade.

Snow can pile up on the dish, which caused issues with my smaller, old dish. Never had an issue with the big one (5LNB dish for HD) and snow. If it does give me issues, I just brush the snow off.

I've never had any issue with clouds causing interference.

You are lucky. With the newest DishHD sat dish, our picture drops out all the time (It once dropped out because of a storm 10 miles away ><). It's gotten to be some irksome that we are considering switching to DirectTV, or even back to Comcast (even though Comcast has horrible compression artifacts during any popular show =/). When it's working it is pretty incredible though. Something like 25-30 HD channels, with a much better PQ than we ever got from ComcastHD, not to mention the DVR that destroys the DVR from Comcast.

Does DirectTV get the NFL Network? Or the Voom suite? (Kung Fu HD, Gameplay HD, etc)

Max Lomax - You just sold a copy of The Matrix in HD, even though I already own it on DVD. Good lord.

mboojigga

12-20-07, 12:38 AM

SamuraiXmas

12-20-07, 01:56 AM

Here in the suburbs of Kansas City, the off air HD signal is excellent (luckily), so that isn't a concern. 100 HD channels? Is that for the basic HD package, or is that including HBO etc?

If it goes out again, I'll probably switch to Direct TV. If Direct TV goes out, then it's back to cable I go :(

On another note, I know COD4 is essentially the same game on both the 360 and the PS3, but it's games like COD4 that make me glad Xbox Live exists.

Uptown193

12-20-07, 02:00 AM

Its amazing how Direct TV has so many HD channels and sad that TWC only has like 15, I think ima switch to Direct TV as my new years resolution. Plus direct TV has a black cable box to match my other boxes. Does Direct TV offer high speed internet? I guess ill go to their website.

kicks

12-20-07, 03:18 AM

DAMN maybe FORZA 2 does look better than GT5P

Forza 2 is trashy looking jaggies everywhere I look. PGR4 is what gives GT5P a run for it's money

kicks

12-20-07, 03:19 AM

Best movie eva-The HD version rules:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4597/dsc00252rf9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
More COD 4:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/452/dsc00249jg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
106" SmX AT screen
Epson Pro 1080p
That CoD4 shot looks almost real:eek:

kicks

12-20-07, 03:42 AM

Sorry for late response. Been over at TXB thread.

Yeah turns out I bought the 6176s. It was a major disappointment!! Nuff said on that!

I got my money back and ordered Samsung's top of the line LCD. LNT4671F! YES SUH! One of the guys over at TXB posted some pics of hi def movies and games on the 71F so you guys can take a look at its awesome PQ! I am sooo excited!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1227wr5.jpg?t=1198018052

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1315xg8.jpg?t=1198018118

Save my favorite for last!

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD FTW! I should have mine next week shipped from amazon.com! I ofcoruse don't have pics now. but just fyi..my setup will be..

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD LNT4671F
Alienware Desktop PC hook up via vga to the samsung
360 Premium
PS3 60GB

Sound will have to wait...but hey...not bad for a 17 year old.
Freaking awesome set. I'm really impressed. Samsung rules

Shape

12-20-07, 07:28 AM

You are lucky. With the newest DishHD sat dish, our picture drops out all the time (It once dropped out because of a storm 10 miles away ><). It's gotten to be some irksome that we are considering switching to DirectTV, or even back to Comcast (even though Comcast has horrible compression artifacts during any popular show =/). When it's working it is pretty incredible though. Something like 25-30 HD channels, with a much better PQ than we ever got from ComcastHD, not to mention the DVR that destroys the DVR from Comcast.

Does DirectTV get the NFL Network? Or the Voom suite? (Kung Fu HD, Gameplay HD, etc)

The DirecTV 5LNB satellite dish is rather large. :) That may be the difference.

DirecTV doesn't carry Voom stuff. But they do carry a ton more actual HD network channels.

These are their current HD channels:
1. ESPN HD (206/73)
2. ESPN2 HD (209/72)
3. (Discovery) HD Theater (76)
4. HDNet (79)
5. HDNet Movies (78)
6. TNT HD (245/75)
7. Universal HD (74)
8. The 101 (101)
9. HBO HD East (70/501/509)
10. Showtime HD (71/537/543)

MPEG4 RECENT ADDITIONS
Added 9/26
11. A&E HD (265)
12. Animal Planet HD (282)
13. Big Ten HD (220)
14. CNN HD (202)
15. Discovery HD (278)
16. History Channel HD (269)
17. TLC HD (280)
18. NFL Network HD (212)
19. Science Channel HD (284)
20. Smithsonian HD (267)
21. TBS HD (247)
22. Versus HD / Golf Channel HD (604)
23. Weather Channel HD (362)
24. The Movie Channel HD (544)
25. SHO Too HD (538)
26. Showtime HD West (540)
27. Starz Comedy HD (519)
28. Starz HD East (520)
29. Starz HD West (521)
30. Starz Edge HD (522)
31. Starz Kids and Family (518)
Added 10/3 & 10/4
32. Bravo (273)
33. MHD (332)
34. SCI FI (244)
35. USA Network (242)
36. Cinemax-E (512)
37. Cinemax-W (514)
38. HBO-W (504)
Added 10/10
39. CNBC (355)
40. Food HD* (231-1)
41. MGM (255)
42. National Geographic (276)
Added on 10/15
43. Fox Business Network (359)
44. HGTV HD* (229-1)
45. FX HD (248)
46. Speed Network HD (607)
47. Fuel HD (612)
48. The Cartoon Network (296)
Added on 10/29
49. NBA HD (601)
Added on 10/31
50. NHL Network HD (215)
Added on 11/14
51. Nickelodeon HD East (299)
52. Spike HD (325)
53. Country Music Television (327)
54. MTV HD (331)
55. VH1 HD (335)
Added on 11/28
56. Biography HD (266)

They also carry a ton of regional sports networks in HD that you can get in the sports pack.

mboojigga

12-20-07, 08:44 AM

Just for information purposes. At Circuit City if you Buy an HD display and sign up for HD Directv you get $300 off your display instantly and 1 year of HD service. So you pay the basic charge for example HD DVR package runs for 69.99. Normally you would pay 11.99 in addition to the package for HD.

Hedonist

12-20-07, 10:21 AM

Ok here are some new images of setup and a screenshot as well. I still can't manage to take quality photos...but oh well.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/heednst/setup2.jpg

So I turned off the flash and got this one...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/heednst/setup1.jpg

and finally the screenshot. Doing the last part of the Ghilles mission on Veteran. About to get killed for the umpteenth time!
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/heednst/setup3.jpg

Homeless

12-20-07, 10:55 AM

Dude, I can not beat that level on Veteran. I must have tried it 100 times. Anyone have any tips? I read about hiding in the shed, and it works maybe 10% of the time, but when the chopper comes I die trying to get to MacMillen or whatever his name is...

Uptown193

12-20-07, 11:15 AM

The DirecTV 5LNB satellite dish is rather large. :) That may be the difference.

DirecTV doesn't carry Voom stuff. But they do carry a ton more actual HD network channels.

These are their current HD channels:
1. ESPN HD (206/73)
2. ESPN2 HD (209/72)
3. (Discovery) HD Theater (76)
4. HDNet (79)
5. HDNet Movies (78)
6. TNT HD (245/75)
7. Universal HD (74)
8. The 101 (101)
9. HBO HD East (70/501/509)
10. Showtime HD (71/537/543)

MPEG4 RECENT ADDITIONS
Added 9/26
11. A&E HD (265)
12. Animal Planet HD (282)
13. Big Ten HD (220)
14. CNN HD (202)
15. Discovery HD (278)
16. History Channel HD (269)
17. TLC HD (280)
18. NFL Network HD (212)
19. Science Channel HD (284)
20. Smithsonian HD (267)
21. TBS HD (247)
22. Versus HD / Golf Channel HD (604)
23. Weather Channel HD (362)
24. The Movie Channel HD (544)
25. SHO Too HD (538)
26. Showtime HD West (540)
27. Starz Comedy HD (519)
28. Starz HD East (520)
29. Starz HD West (521)
30. Starz Edge HD (522)
31. Starz Kids and Family (518)
Added 10/3 & 10/4
32. Bravo (273)
33. MHD (332)
34. SCI FI (244)
35. USA Network (242)
36. Cinemax-E (512)
37. Cinemax-W (514)
38. HBO-W (504)
Added 10/10
39. CNBC (355)
40. Food HD* (231-1)
41. MGM (255)
42. National Geographic (276)
Added on 10/15
43. Fox Business Network (359)
44. HGTV HD* (229-1)
45. FX HD (248)
46. Speed Network HD (607)
47. Fuel HD (612)
48. The Cartoon Network (296)
Added on 10/29
49. NBA HD (601)
Added on 10/31
50. NHL Network HD (215)
Added on 11/14
51. Nickelodeon HD East (299)
52. Spike HD (325)
53. Country Music Television (327)
54. MTV HD (331)
55. VH1 HD (335)
Added on 11/28
56. Biography HD (266)

They also carry a ton of regional sports networks in HD that you can get in the sports pack.

wow Direct TV is HD heaven.

Max Lomax

12-20-07, 11:22 AM

Max Lomax - You just sold a copy of The Matrix in HD, even though I already own it on DVD. Good lord.

Wait until you hear it with the new codecs. Seriously, it was like watching it for the first time all over again. It's really quite perfect.

generalpride66

12-20-07, 11:26 AM

Man, if you want to buy a Sony A3000, you had better do it quick. Sony is getting out of the RPTV business. :(

WHAT!!! is that a fact cuz i it is ill be very upset

Uptown193

12-20-07, 11:30 AM

Wait until you hear it with the new codecs. Seriously, it was like watching it for the first time all over again. It's really quite perfect.

i wonder why Blockbuster online dosen't have the Matrix trilogy to rent.

tronn

12-20-07, 11:31 AM

wow Direct TV is HD heaven.

hmph... I couldnt imagine anyone saying that at the beginning of this year. what a difference 2 satellites makes huh? :p

Shape

12-20-07, 11:32 AM

WHAT!!! is that a fact cuz i it is ill be very upset

It has been reported on one blog so far. Crutchfield says the SXRDs are very popular and that they haven't heard anything from Sony about this. It would surprise me if they dumped RPTVs. But the article is out there, making me think they might have something. :(

We will have to wait for Sony to say something.

Dankir

12-20-07, 11:49 AM

Uptown193

12-20-07, 01:39 PM

hmph... I couldnt imagine anyone saying that at the beginning of this year. what a difference 2 satellites makes huh? :p

Its a lot better then TWC which only has about 15 HD channels with millions of viewers. I;m surprised everyone dosent switch.

XMotoX

12-20-07, 02:05 PM

XMotoX

12-20-07, 02:06 PM

Max Lomax

12-20-07, 02:15 PM

Satellite isn't for everyone. Channel line ups don't define the quality or flexibility of the service. I have 6 TVs in my house and if I had to have a box with all of them I..well I wouldn't have them all.

Plus, in my experience with them, DirectTV's service and installation techs are TERRIBLE, you're lucky if they don't swiss cheese your house when putting in the dish. They get paid like $95 an install/activation, so most of them just try to get it done as quickly as they can so they can run off to the next abortion clinic install they have on the list. All the ones I have worked with usually tried to find excuses why they can't do the install the moment they arrived on site. If it's not laid out on a silver platter and they know it's going to be tough to do quickly, they try to leave and pass it on to the next tech that gets sent out.

The boxes you get are usually refurbs, and they try to sell you extended warranties on these old used boxes, claiming you will have to pay to replace them after 90 days or w/e if you don't have the extended warranty, which is BS. They also lock you in to two year contracts.

Shape

12-20-07, 02:25 PM

The boxes you get are usually refurbs, and they try to sell you extended warranties on these old used boxes, claiming you will have to pay to replace them after 90 days or w/e if you don't have the extended warranty, which is BS. They also lock you in to two year contracts.

I have gotten 4 DVRs from DirecTV, and I've never once had a refurb sold to me.

If you get an equipment discount, then yes, contracts are the norm. I like staying with one service, so that isn't a problem for me.

And I only have 2 TVs in my house, so no issue there. If you have 6 TVs (golly!), then yeah, satellite probably isn't for you.

If you want the most HD channels available right now, though, Satellite is the only way to go.

Hedonist

12-20-07, 02:38 PM

Isn't this this screenshot and setup thread?

There are plenty of threads debating satellite versus cable.

chiliDog

12-20-07, 03:12 PM

DirecTV doesn't carry Voom stuff. But they do carry a ton more actual HD network channels.

These are their current HD channels:
1. ESPN HD (206/73)
2. ESPN2 HD (209/72)
3. (Discovery) HD Theater (76)
4. HDNet (79)
5. HDNet Movies (78)
6. TNT HD (245/75)
7. Universal HD (74)
8. The 101 (101)
9. HBO HD East (70/501/509)
10. Showtime HD (71/537/543)

MPEG4 RECENT ADDITIONS
Added 9/26
11. A&E HD (265)
12. Animal Planet HD (282)
13. Big Ten HD (220)
14. CNN HD (202)
15. Discovery HD (278)
16. History Channel HD (269)
17. TLC HD (280)
18. NFL Network HD (212)
19. Science Channel HD (284)
20. Smithsonian HD (267)
21. TBS HD (247)
22. Versus HD / Golf Channel HD (604)
23. Weather Channel HD (362)
24. The Movie Channel HD (544)
25. SHO Too HD (538)
26. Showtime HD West (540)
27. Starz Comedy HD (519)
28. Starz HD East (520)
29. Starz HD West (521)
30. Starz Edge HD (522)
31. Starz Kids and Family (518)
Added 10/3 & 10/4
32. Bravo (273)
33. MHD (332)
34. SCI FI (244)
35. USA Network (242)
36. Cinemax-E (512)
37. Cinemax-W (514)
38. HBO-W (504)
Added 10/10
39. CNBC (355)
40. Food HD* (231-1)
41. MGM (255)
42. National Geographic (276)
Added on 10/15
43. Fox Business Network (359)
44. HGTV HD* (229-1)
45. FX HD (248)
46. Speed Network HD (607)
47. Fuel HD (612)
48. The Cartoon Network (296)
Added on 10/29
49. NBA HD (601)
Added on 10/31
50. NHL Network HD (215)
Added on 11/14
51. Nickelodeon HD East (299)
52. Spike HD (325)
53. Country Music Television (327)
54. MTV HD (331)
55. VH1 HD (335)
Added on 11/28
56. Biography HD (266)

They also carry a ton of regional sports networks in HD that you can get in the sports pack.

A Ton more? I think not. Here's Dish HD...

TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
National Geographic HD
Science Channel HD
HDNet Movies
HBO East HD
Cinemax East HD
Starz East HD
Showtime East HD
PPV HD 11 channels
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Golf/Versus HD
CSN Mid-Atlantic
CSN Chicago
NFL Network HD
BIG 10 HD
Discovery HD Theater
HDNet
Universal HD
Equator HD
Gallery HD
Treasure HD
UltraHD
Game Play HD
Animania HD
MHD
Rave HD
HD News
World Cinema HD
Kung Fu HD
Film Fest HD
Monsters HD
Family Room HD
HD Pay-Per-View
HDTV Special Events
HD PPVNHL Center Ice HD
Rush HD
World Sport HD
NHL CI HD
NBA HD
NBA HD
CSN West
Altitude
TEST HD (5710)

Coming very soon: Sci-Fi HD, USA HD

chiliDog

12-20-07, 03:13 PM

Isn't this this screenshot and setup thread?

There are plenty of threads debating satellite versus cable.

umm, yea it is :o

Shape

12-20-07, 03:28 PM

A Ton more? I think not. Here's Dish HD...

Yes, a ton more. :) I didn't include the 35 RSNs that DirecTV carries, whereas your list does include RSNs. I also didn't include the 15 PPV HD channels, whereas the dish list includes it. And I didn't include all of the special DirecTV sports packages. And I didn't list NBA HD twice. :)

Anyway, here is the full list.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=914047

If you compare the two lists, DirecTV really does have a ton more HD networks (i.e. not Kung Fu and Monsters HD) available. Dish is missing a lot of the available HD networks.

But I agree that this is the wrong place to be discussing this. This will be my last post in here on this subject.

Hopefully I can remember to post some XBox game play pictures tonight.

V.X.Donique

12-20-07, 03:30 PM

Sooo can we get back to " So, post your 360 screenshots and tv u r using"?

thanx.

Big Brad

12-20-07, 03:54 PM

I can't remember if I posted in here or not but I'll try and snap a few pictures tonight of my setup to get this thread back on course. :D That is, if I can find some batteries for my camera.

-Brad

DaGamePimp

12-20-07, 04:52 PM

Guys , please take the SAT/CABLE chat to another thread , there is an area on AVS for that and this thread has had enough off topic discussion recently ;) .

Thank You ,
- Jason

Uptown193

12-20-07, 05:11 PM

wow, I didnt know AVS Science Forum is so strict. Sorry.

In that case do not post anything unless it includes a photo, Ill be first.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0233.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0220.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x255/uptown193/DSCI0217-2.jpg

Max Lomax

12-20-07, 05:30 PM

Prices just dropped bigtime on the 5080's Uptown. Quit slackin on your pimpin.

SamuraiXmas

12-20-07, 06:11 PM

What is the point of complaining about off topic posts when everyone had already dropped it? :p

Anywho, nice shots Uptown.

spyder696969

12-20-07, 08:40 PM

Damn. I was hoping of some pictures of everyone's dish. :D

tronn

12-20-07, 11:15 PM

Here's a quick shot:

New Sony KDL 52W3000 with this shot I'm using the HD Component cables. This TV allows for 1080P through component, so games look nice. However I have an HD DVD add-on so I've re-connected my 360 via VGA to get 1080P.
This shot though was day 1 with no calibration through Component:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1213Image0043.jpg

Now I just need new pics of actual gaming. Prob. do tomorrow.

tronn

12-20-07, 11:20 PM

Heres same pic but with flash. Not good at picture taking of tvs. using a Fuji S5100.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1213Image0042recrop.jpg

also cables are a mess cause it was day 1. (still looks this way, but I'll work on it this saturday)

KoRn

12-20-07, 11:49 PM

Hey can you get a screen shot like that using your vga cable? Also if anyone has some shots using a Samsung lcd with vga for the 360. Can you post some pics as well?

Heres same pic but with flash. Not good at picture taking of tvs. using a Fuji S5100.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1213Image0042recrop.jpg

also cables are a mess cause it was day 1. (still looks this way, but I'll work on it this saturday)

darklordjames

12-21-07, 12:30 AM

Here's the setup in the living room of my one bedroom apartment. The picture is an Akai 42" HD plasma. Consists of Samsung glass with lazy scalers. Great for HD/ED material, sucks for 480i. Good thing the only thing left in my system that is 480i is the occasional PS2 RPG. :) Audio consists of the beautiful Yamaha RX-V2500 with 4 Energy eXL-15s and an XL-C100. The Wii, Dreamcast and 360 are stock. The Xbox is softmodded to run XBMC and is my main media source. The PS2 is softmodded with a HDD in it. I of course have all of my legally owned games sitting on said harddrive. Rounding out video sources are my Samsung DirecTV HD box being used as a local HD tuner, and my Philips HDD DVD recorder. Everything is controlled by a Harmony 520.

Full Setup with flash on. Everything is nice and bright, even the flash in the middle of the screen!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2038/2126469398_40c9d2ed0e_o.jpg

Full setup with flash off.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/2126469174_c91d866252_o.jpg

Full Room
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2073/2125693511_f0987f87c8_o.jpg

Plasma only. The picture really is nice in person, I am just a pretty crappy cameraman.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2125693309_2e06b91a14_o.jpg

My wall o' media. The left 3 racks are audio and PC, middle 3 games, and the right 3 are movies. Each rack holds 180 CDs or 88 DVDs. Over the last 2 years, this has actually shrunken alot. Lately I have been pretty vicious and gotten rid of a lot of stuff.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2138/2125693425_994b1b5cb3_o.jpg

The couch! I don't have a sub in my apartment, but this couch does have transducers in it!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2126469264_6ce896e1da_o.jpg

...and of course my cat, Reginald, helping to fight terrorists in Las Vegas. :) Yes, it is a 42" panel. Yes, he is a big cat. :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/2125693347_cba26ab35e_o.jpg

NickG1215

12-21-07, 01:30 AM

hahaha love the background MJ, very subtle.

Uptown193

12-21-07, 02:02 AM

Prices just dropped bigtime on the 5080's Uptown. Quit slackin on your pimpin.

Yea but im looking to go big like front projector 100" and the 5080 is not 1080p. These 50" are not doing it for me. I'm a Tim Allen type guy like from Home Improvment, I need more power and bigger equipment (no pun intended). ARG ARGG ARGG ARGG. Anyone wanna buy a Pioneer 5070?

Uptown193

12-21-07, 02:10 AM

Anywho, nice shots Uptown.

Thank you.

whiskey > work

12-21-07, 09:54 AM

darklordjames, you ever consider a slipcover for that red couch? ;)

Uptown193

12-21-07, 12:29 PM

Oh lord not again. Good suggestion though.

tronn

12-21-07, 12:53 PM

Hey can you get a screen shot like that using your vga cable? Also if anyone has some shots using a Samsung lcd with vga for the 360. Can you post some pics as well?

yes. tonight sometime though. still at werk right now. :mad:

i can tell you the VGA connection through this tv rocks. at first it actually got dimmer and the colors were washed out, however i found this tv (sony KDL 52W3000) has an option for the VGA input. Its called Game/Text mode. The default this option was on gave me the washed out faded color, but turning this option to on... well it brought tears to my eyes. damn it looks good. :D

tronn

12-21-07, 01:00 PM

whiskey > work

12-21-07, 01:02 PM

Hannzo24

12-21-07, 01:05 PM

before i post up some new VGA connected screenshots, I have a question of consumer electronics etiquette. Do you remove these stickers? or leave them be? WWJD?

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1213Image0042redue.jpg

Anyone with a half a sense of style & suave will remove the stickers.

BillKen

12-21-07, 01:11 PM

bassmonkeee

12-21-07, 01:16 PM

tronn

12-21-07, 01:24 PM

Do you leave the price tags on your clothes?

until i check they fit yes. tv is only 5 days old. so far no dead pixels and it has very even backlighting. ok, i'll remove. now that i am happy with the set I'll do the rest of the install (receiver, dvd/vcr, and proper cable routing).
:)

thejokell

12-21-07, 01:33 PM

remove

Immediately.

Joey Cusack

12-21-07, 01:33 PM

darklordjames, you ever consider a slipcover for that red couch? ;)

Oh lord not again. Good suggestion though.

Well Jesus! How bad does the thing look?

Anyway Lordjames, just incase the couch looks that bad.....**** yo couch nigga.

Always wanted to have a reason to say that. Anyways **** a couch ....lets look at these from the lnt5271f!

Forza2. I swear I never seen it look this good.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1945ji6.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1909gm3.jpg

Halo 3....let me remind you these are pics off component....he will be gettin his HDMi back soon.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1900ex5.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1899vv9.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1881tp7.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1875jp9.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1870mm1.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1865xe5.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1864ta1.jpg

Hope I did not already post those. My LNT4671F should arrive next week.

Did You Know Quiz: Did you know the Samsung LNTxx71F is argueably the BEST LCD on the market. It took on a faceoff against the pioneer Kuro and lost, but it was noted and it was just as good as the Kuro in some areas. Kuro was then named in this particular battle the BEST HDTV on the market leaving samsung's LCD 2nd place. The exact model of the samsung in the battle was the 81F series..yet through reviews here on AVS have led many to prefer the 71F over the 81F in terms of PQ and ofcourse price. Therefore the samsung LNTxx71F is argueably the BESTLCD on the market.

ogbuehi

12-21-07, 02:52 PM

That would be great if it came in 65 inches or larger.

deedubbadoo

12-21-07, 02:59 PM

I have been shopping and reading about the 61 and 65 series but after seeing the shots Joey is posting I think I owe it to myself to get the 71 series. Now the decision becomes 46 or 52!!!

XMotoX

12-21-07, 03:29 PM

Joey, wtf... how does Halo look so good on your camera? No way it looks that good in person cause Halo 3 is FULL of jaggies and severely takes away from the eye candy.

KoRn

12-21-07, 04:14 PM

Cool looking forward to them. Actually if you go into the 360 display settings and set it to Extended for black level. It fixes the washed out colors. Leaving it on standard leaves them all washed out. The 360 had a update where it fixed the signal. Something about the 360 sending a 7.5IRE and the vga signal from the tv/monitor was expecting a 0IRE but instead was getting 7.5IRE. Now setting it to Extended the 360 it sends a 0IRE to the tv/pc monitor matching what the tv/monitor is expecting 0IRE as well. Maybe someone else can explain it better. I believe that is the jist of it vga wise. I love how vga pretty much does the calibration for you. I call it the lazy man calibration color wise. :P At least on my Samsung lcd. Everything is locked out accept Contrast and Brightness. Another benefit running vga. It isn't jaggie central anymore. I can notice a big difference in jaggies using 720 component and 1360x768 vga.

yes. tonight sometime though. still at werk right now. :mad:

i can tell you the VGA connection through this tv rocks. at first it actually got dimmer and the colors were washed out, however i found this tv (sony KDL 52W3000) has an option for the VGA input. Its called Game/Text mode. The default this option was on gave me the washed out faded color, but turning this option to on... well it brought tears to my eyes. damn it looks good. :D

MJ DOOM

12-21-07, 07:08 PM

hahaha love the background MJ, very subtle.

Yeah thanks, I guess the moderators didnt think so. Here's my setup again minus my big breasted friend.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/ghost_in_a_shell/DSCF0978.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/ghost_in_a_shell/DSCF0973.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/ghost_in_a_shell/DSCF0972.jpg

Samsung 4053H 40 inch LCD
Xbox 360 Elite
HD-DVD ADD-ON
Pioneer surround sound headphones
Pioneer HTS-GS1 surround sound system
Dell PC w/Vista
Games+Movies collection

spyder696969

12-21-07, 07:21 PM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/ghost_in_a_shell/DSCF0972.jpg

Sweet pajamas! :D

mboojigga

12-21-07, 08:20 PM

Joey, wtf... how does Halo look so good on your camera? No way it looks that good in person cause Halo 3 is FULL of jaggies and severely takes away from the eye candy.

Then you or whoevers display is a piss poor of a set than if you seem to believe it doesn't look that good for most of us to claim it is full of jaggies. Not the case for both my setups.

mboojigga

12-21-07, 08:21 PM

Sweet pajamas! :D

Boondocks BABY YEAH :D

Joey Cusack

12-21-07, 09:58 PM

I have been shopping and reading about the 61 and 65 series but after seeing the shots Joey is posting I think I owe it to myself to get the 71 series. Now the decision becomes 46 or 52!!!

If you got the cash might aswell snag the 52. Amazon has for $2550 and the 46" for $2000.

Joey, wtf... how does Halo look so good on your camera? No way it looks that good in person cause Halo 3 is FULL of jaggies and severely takes away from the eye candy.

Please people these are not my pictures! My HDTV will be at my house tomorrow. These are a friends from teamxbox.com forums.

And to answer your questions..

The guy has a great camera! But the HDTV is even greater. 71F series is awesome. can't wait till mine arrives tomorrow.

Shape

12-21-07, 10:06 PM

Halo 3 on my KDS-60A3000. I know, I know, it is full of jaggies. How can you ignore these jaggies. ;)

Full set (more photos here):
http://flickr.com/photos/shapegsx/sets/72157603515865446/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/2127410571_a8afa5d2ce_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2127411001_536b4a2309_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/2128187992_7bec32c0e9_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2127411055_fa18ab23a1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2145/2127411225_5995763467_o.jpg

And Dream Theater for good measure:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2356/2128187612_e3be630f57_o.jpg

Joey Cusack

12-21-07, 10:22 PM

Here are some more pictures off TAPOUT's(teamxbox) LNT5271f. Keep in mind these particular images are meant show the amazing BLACK Level of this HDTV. And what better game than Gears to test it?

BTW The guy who took these pics noted that these gears shots were taking during teh day with sunlight hitting the screen.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2106jw2.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2109bc9.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2118go1.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2097gi6.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2054gl7.jpg

These are some new ones of COD4.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2147vn6.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img2145hw9.jpg

hiwind

12-21-07, 10:39 PM

This is my bedroom setup, Panasonic 50", 2 xbox 360's, hd dvd drive, monster power lol
pioneer sound system coming in 6 days.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1311/dsc00537ni3.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6076/dsc00540mn9.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1083/dsc00541no8.jpg

SamuraiXmas

12-21-07, 10:52 PM

Joey Cusack- Do they have a 60 inch version of that TV? Even at 52, those shots are making me consider a samsung (or more specifically, an LCD). That is undoubtedly the best blacks I've ever seen from an LCD. Maybe those shots aren't quite as glorious as the shots I've seen of the Pioneer plasmas, but at half the cost, I'm tempted.

I've waited too long anyway, and with a snow storm coming, I'll have to wait till after Christmas to look at them in store, but mama mia :D So many sets to choose from.

Joey Cusack

12-21-07, 11:22 PM

tronn

12-21-07, 11:23 PM

Heres my aforementioned new pics.

These are using the VGA input from the 360. Set at Extended Black levels and 1080P. Again I'm not the greatest at takin pics, but check these out:

360 Dashboard
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0070.jpg

1 of 3 Bioshock Demo Shots
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0072.jpg

2 of 3 Bioshock Demo
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0075.jpg

3 of 3 Bioshock Demo
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0073.jpg

Guitar Hero 3 Demo
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0079.jpg

hmmm guess i ran out of game pics.

Here's a "300" pic showing the blackness levels I'm getting. Again this is through the HD DVD add-on through VGA set at 1080P with Extended Black levels:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1221Image0009.jpg

Shape

12-22-07, 12:41 AM

Call of Duty 4 on the 60" A3000:
http://flickr.com/photos/shapegsx/sets/72157603515865446/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2128404840_202e1c0183_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2019/2127627493_f71a185259_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2128404568_31267c0944_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/2127627217_cf73f8f4a2_o.jpg

tronn

12-22-07, 01:22 AM

^ wow, i must be like idiota numero uno for not picking up COD4 for $40 twice (circuit city and amazon the next week)

well i gots monies rite now, so where are the deal-ios

Joey Cusack

12-22-07, 01:36 AM

Shape, I hate you the more I look at your pics! lol. More I look at that HDTV the more I wonder why the HECK did sony decide to stop building RPTVs.Ah well. You should be happy though. You getting the last of a dying breed and it looks awesome.

I should receive my LNT4671F tomorrow as I am sure I have mentioned a numerous amount of times. I am just so excited! I just hope it does not look to small coming from my 61" SAMSUNG DLP. I keep thinking I should have turned around and grabbed the 60" A3000. I think I am just being paranoid though. I am getting the 2nd best HDTV on the market....

Lemme stop thinking bout it....

Till tomorrow. lol

BozsterHD

12-22-07, 06:06 AM

My contribution:

Pioneer 50" Elite 1130HD
120gb Xbox 360 premium + all accessories
4 pads + wheel and chatpad :)
Klipsch Synergy speakers - 6.1 setup

http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup0.jpg
http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup1.jpg
http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup2.jpg
http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup3.jpg
http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup4.jpg
http://www.designbyinfinity.com/internet/xbox360/avs_xbox360_setup5.jpg

SamuraiXmas

12-22-07, 07:23 AM

BozsterHD, is your camera making your screen glow bright blue, or is that a function of your TV?

Deluis

12-22-07, 08:15 AM

^ wow, i must be like idiota numero uno for not picking up COD4 for $40 twice (circuit city and amazon the next week)

well i gots monies rite now, so where are the deal-ios

Target will Have COD4 on sale for $37 (360 / PS3 / PC Version) starting 12/26.

BozsterHD

12-22-07, 08:34 AM

BozsterHD, is your camera making your screen glow bright blue, or is that a function of your TV?

It's the way camera took the shots.. ISO and EV were set bad on this crappy camera so it has gotten the blue hue..

THe first photo is with more accurate colors.

whiskey > work

12-22-07, 09:41 AM

That would be great if it came in 65 inches or larger.

that's what she said

football76

12-22-07, 10:36 AM

that's what she said

That line gets me every time...:p

Max Lomax

12-22-07, 11:24 AM

Even though I own the game (COD 4) and play it extensively, looking at other peoples screenshots still makes me shake my head and it really sinks in how far games have come.

I mean seriously, look at Shape's screenshots. LOOK AT THAT F'ING GAME! YES THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING OMFG. Erm, sorry.

I gotta say it still blows my mind that this is the little virtual world that we get to go play in..I was playing last night, unloading my M4 on people and reloading it while ducking behind cover, really looking at the animations when I was reloading. Really studying the guns and how they work and shoot, how they sound. Studying how the bullets hit objects and people and the effect it has on them and the many different animations when enemies die. Sometimes they get blown right off their feet as if they were getting a carpet pulled out from under them. Sometimes when you get a headshot you can clearly see your enemy collapse like a sack of potatoes as if you just flipped a switch on him. God.

I clearly remember thinking to myself that this is the perfect game. Plain and simple. Just an insanely perfect shooter. After almost a month and a half of playing this game extensively I still find things that amaze me about the way it looks and plays. That is the mark of a classic.

DaDeuce

12-22-07, 01:55 PM

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1774id0.jpg?t=1198017732

Is Crank a full screen movie or is that zoomed in? Or is it a trailer?

KoRn

12-22-07, 02:31 PM

Looks good. You might want to sit further back. Your pics will come out much better.

Heres my aforementioned new pics.

These are using the VGA input from the 360. Set at Extended Black levels and 1080P. Again I'm not the greatest at takin pics, but check these out:

PARASITE

12-22-07, 03:47 PM

the samsungs and sony's look nice, but I'm noticing alot of black crush. If the tv really has good black level you should be able to get the deepest blacks and see all the shadow detail. When I get a better camera I'm gonna flood this thread with elite kuro ISF calibrated shots, that show the true beauty of that TV. BTW I am really impressed with the samsung 71 for LCD. The black levels are not even close to my elite, but the color is very good out of the box. Sorry guys the A3000 doesnt do anything for me. The primaries are way off out of the box, but to the defense of the TV I havnt seen one that was ISF calibrated. Anyone got a suggestion for a good camera around $300 bucks? Something good for low light, and for focusing with a decent shutter speed.

Zygon

12-22-07, 03:58 PM

Is Crank a full screen movie or is that zoomed in? Or is it a trailer?

Is that the 71 series or 81 series?

KoRn

12-22-07, 04:20 PM

Not really a fair comparison. A few things come to mind. Some people do not have there sets isf calibrated like yours. Some people are using DNIe. And especially using the black adjustment. On low, medium or high. Its known to crush blacks big time. A fair comparison would be no extra stuff on and it being isf calibrated. I use to be all over DNIe. Now with all that garbage off. I really notice tons of detail I have been missing out on. I will never go back to it. Sure it adds pop to the picture. But at a huge cost of details and finer details like shadow detail for one that you mentioned.

the samsungs and sony's look nice, but I'm noticing alot of black crush. If the tv really has good black level you should be able to get the deepest blacks and see all the shadow detail. When I get a better camera I'm gonna flood this thread with elite kuro ISF calibrated shots, that show the true beauty of that TV. BTW I am really impressed with the samsung 71 for LCD. The black levels are not even close to my elite, but the color is very good out of the box. Sorry guys the A3000 doesnt do anything for me. The primaries are way off out of the box, but to the defense of the TV I havnt seen one that was ISF calibrated. Anyone got a suggestion for a good camera around $300 bucks? Something good for low light, and for focusing with a decent shutter speed.

Shape

12-22-07, 04:40 PM

BTW I am really impressed with the samsung 71 for LCD. The black levels are not even close to my elite, but the color is very good out of the box. Sorry guys the A3000 doesnt do anything for me. The primaries are way off out of the box, but to the defense of the TV I havnt seen one that was ISF calibrated. Anyone got a suggestion for a good camera around $300 bucks? Something good for low light, and for focusing with a decent shutter speed.

CNet disagrees with you:
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/sony-kds-55a3000/4505-6484_7-32468848.html?tag=prod.txt.2

In fact, they liked the A3000's color accuracy much better than the Kuro's, which had some trouble with greens.

For that superb color fidelity we mentioned, choose the Standard setting for the Color space. We measured the primary colors of red, green, and blue for both Standard and Wide, and found Standard to be very close to--you guessed it--the ATSC standard.

Overall performance on the Sony KD-S55A3000 was excellent, and its standout characteristic compared with other HDTVs is color accuracy. When the Sony is set to Standard color space, the primary colors of red, green, and blue are nearly dead-on accurate to the ATSC specifications. The color decoding is accurate for both SD and HD sources, and the grayscale from the Warm 2 factory preset came mighty close to the broadcast standard. A quick tweak in the advanced menu under white balance made the grayscale nearly perfect. For our full user-menu settings, click here or scroll down to the Tips section below.

Kuro review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/pioneer-kuro-pdp-5080/4505-6482_7-32476901.html?tag=prod.txt.1

The Pioneer's green is also quite yellowish--a common issue with plasmas--and while 300 lacks the give-away greens that illustrate this issue, we did notice a subtle yellow in other green-dominated scenes, such as the jungle during an episode of Sunrise Earth on DiscoveryHD.

We appreciated that the Warm color temperature preset came relatively close to the standard of 6,500K, although it appeared a bit minus-green and plus-red overall. As we mentioned above, we really missed the ability to fine-tune the grayscale, and since the set lacked this ability in the user menu, we did not perform an "after" calibration (see the Geek box below). Of course, we're sure a professional can get the 5080HD a bit closer by accessing the service menu. For our complete user-menu adjustments for a darkened room, check out the Tips section below the review.

While my pictures look pretty good, they are also much more contrasty than the actual picture on the TV. You can't really tell how the TV looks from pictures since you ar relying on the fidelity of the lens, camera, and the monitor you are viewing it on.

cdhender

12-22-07, 04:46 PM

Is Crank a full screen movie or is that zoomed in? Or is it a trailer?

Crank is presented in widescreen at a ratio of 2.35:1, which is why it takes up the entire screen of that widescreen television.

Please do not call it "fullscreen" :)

cdhender

12-22-07, 04:47 PM

I have a question for all of you who have 1080p tvs that are 50" or smaller: Do you notice a difference playing games/movies in 1080p vs 720p for screens this size?

DaGamePimp

12-22-07, 04:56 PM

Crank is presented in widescreen at a ratio of 2.35:1, which is why it takes up the entire screen of that widescreen television.

Please do not call it "fullscreen" :)

That is why it was being asked , if Crank is a 2.35 film and the display is making it look like 1.78 or 1.85 . 2.35 (or Cinemascope) does not fill an entire 16:9 screen unless the source/display are in the wrong AR mode ;) .

-- Jason

DaGamePimp

12-22-07, 04:58 PM

I have a question for all of you who have 1080p tvs that are 50" or smaller: Do you notice a difference playing games/movies in 1080p vs 720p for screens this size?

All depends upon the view distance for the average person with 20/20 but many people can see the difference from about 40" and up .

--- Jason

cdhender

12-22-07, 05:06 PM

That is why it was being asked , if Crank is a 2.35 film and the display is making it look like 1.78 or 1.85 . 2.35 (or Cinemascope) does not fill an entire 16:9 screen unless the source/display are in the wrong AR mode ;) .

-- Jason

I'm sorry I misspoke! Originally I went and looked it up on Amazon and it said "2.35:1" so I assumed that it was it. Did a bit more research online and it turns out that it's a MISSPRINT on the package. Indeed it is a 1.85:1.

Sorry for the confusion. My apologies.

cdhender

12-22-07, 05:07 PM

All depends upon the view distance for the average person with 20/20 but many people can see the difference from about 40" and up .

--- Jason

Thanks. To my eye I can see a difference, but I'm always wondering if maybe I'm just WANTING to see a difference so I can justify buying myself a new toy. I can't get anything over a 46" or so, so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading soon. Thanks for the info.

BozsterHD

12-22-07, 05:29 PM

Thanks. To my eye I can see a difference, but I'm always wondering if maybe I'm just WANTING to see a difference so I can justify buying myself a new toy. I can't get anything over a 46" or so, so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading soon. Thanks for the info.

Well if you are sitting 7' or more away from the TV you are making yourself see the difference.

I have 3 HDTVs.. in my main living room believe it or not is Pioneer Elite 1130HD as you see on my screenshots.. I sit away about 7-8' from it. I have a Panasonic 50" 1080p plasma in my office and I have Samsung 46" LCD in one of my bedrooms.. I sit about the same distance from them as I do from Elite.. I see absolutely no difference in resolution. To be honest with you 1130HD still has the best picture quality out of all 3 (colors, blacks) while still giving unbelievable sharp images.

I will be upgrading however to 92" 1080p projector soon.. and that's where I expect to see a difference.. huge screen, 1080p is a must.

darklordjames

12-22-07, 05:47 PM

DaDeuce

12-22-07, 07:04 PM

PARASITE

12-22-07, 08:03 PM

CNet disagrees with you:
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/sony-kds-55a3000/4505-6484_7-32468848.html?tag=prod.txt.2

In fact, they liked the A3000's color accuracy much better than the Kuro's, which had some trouble with greens.

Kuro review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/pioneer-kuro-pdp-5080/4505-6482_7-32476901.html?tag=prod.txt.1

While my pictures look pretty good, they are also much more contrasty than the actual picture on the TV. You can't really tell how the TV looks from pictures since you ar relying on the fidelity of the lens, camera, and the monitor you are viewing it on.

Um dude they reviewed a PDP5080 and PDP6010, They have not reviewed an elite. The elite smokes the non elite with much better color out of the box in pure mode, plus after calibration the elite has the most accurate color of any flat panel tv.

PARASITE

12-22-07, 08:07 PM

"the samsungs and sony's look nice, but I'm noticing alot of black crush."

Sorry, but you are missing some really important things. The camera used more than likely has a lower dynamic range than the TV is spitting out. You don't know what kind post-processing went into the picture. And then of course there is the minor problem of your monitor displaying a picture of another monitor. You can't point out black/white crush under these circumstances. That is like the guy a couple pages back trying to tell another dude that he saw dead pixels in a 640x480 pic of a HD panel. Yeah, right. :)
Ok I agree with you there, but my statement was also based on seeing those sets in person. You cannot get the black level nearly as good without losing shadow detail on the 71 and especially the 81. I'm not downplaying the sets at all, I personally think they are the finest lcd's I have seen. The 71 would be my choice since the 81 has really messed up gamma, not to mention the local dimming needs to simmer a bit. Two more years and back lit lcd's will look better then current kuro's, but by then the kuros will be ahead of them at that time. Just my opinion

Shape

12-22-07, 09:00 PM

Um dude they reviewed a PDP5080 and PDP6010, They have not reviewed an elite. The elite smokes the non elite with much better color out of the box in pure mode, plus after calibration the elite has the most accurate color of any flat panel tv.

Not that I doubt you, but according to who?

And I guess that perfect (if the Kuro is perfect) would beat "nearly dead on accurate." But damn, talk about splitting hairs. The A3000 has spectacular color accuracy.

But I guess for 4.5 times the price of what I paid for the 60" A3000, the Kuro Elite definitely should be better. :)

Edit: The Perfect Vision also agrees with CNet. The A3000 is more color accurate than the Kuro Elite. The Elite is slightly better in greyscale tracking, however.

A3000 notes:
http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/84/sony.php

Kuro Elite PRO-1150HD notes:
http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/82/pioneer.php

Check out the color accuracy triangles in both reviews. The A3000 is more accurate for ATSC spec colors right out of the box.

This is not to say that the A3000 is a better TV. I'm sure the Kuro is the better TV. But $7500 vs $1665...ouch.

Joey Cusack

12-22-07, 10:14 PM

Not that I doubt you, but according to who?

And I guess that perfect (if the Kuro is perfect) would beat "nearly dead on accurate." But damn, talk about splitting hairs. The A3000 has spectacular color accuracy.

But I guess for 4.5 times the price of what I paid for the 60" A3000, the Kuro Elite definitely should be better. :)

Edit: The Perfect Vision also agrees with CNet. The A3000 is more color accurate than the Kuro Elite. The Elite is slightly better in greyscale tracking, however.

A3000 notes:
http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/84/sony.php

Kuro Elite PRO-1150HD notes:
http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/82/pioneer.php

Check out the color accuracy triangles in both reviews. The A3000 is more accurate for ATSC spec colors right out of the box.

This is not to say that the A3000 is a better TV. I'm sure the Kuro is the better TV. But $7500 vs $1665...ouch.

Seriously. I don't mean to insult because if I was rich like bill gates I would buy a Kuro. But in my opinion it seems like a ripoff yo. The samsung LCD was actually compared to the Kuro and in detail category they scored the same! for 2-3 grand more the HDTv should kill ANY other tv in EVERY category. They should not even be compared!!! PERIOD! thats all I will say.

Anyways I received my LNT4671F today and...WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

BEST LCD ON THE MARKET! PERIOD!

2nd ONLY TO THE KURO!

LOVE DIS HDTV!

Uptown193

12-23-07, 12:08 AM

before i post up some new VGA connected screenshots, I have a question of consumer electronics etiquette. Do you remove these stickers? or leave them be? WWJD?

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2007_1213Image0042redue.jpg

It depends on how much i spend. If i spend $500 i remove after 5 days, if i spend $1000 i remove after 10 days and so forth and so on.

Uptown193

12-23-07, 12:13 AM

Did You Know Quiz: Did you know the Samsung LNTxx71F is argueably the BEST LCD on the market. It took on a faceoff against the pioneer Kuro and lost, but it was noted and it was just as good as the Kuro in some areas. Kuro was then named in this particular battle the BEST HDTV on the market leaving samsung's LCD 2nd place. The exact model of the samsung in the battle was the 81F series..yet through reviews here on AVS have led many to prefer the 71F over the 81F in terms of PQ and ofcourse price. Therefore the samsung LNTxx71F is argueably the BESTLCD on the market.

Pioneers Rule. I love my Pio.

Uptown193

12-23-07, 12:23 AM

XMotoX

12-23-07, 04:53 AM

Then you or whoevers display is a piss poor of a set than if you seem to believe it doesn't look that good for most of us to claim it is full of jaggies. Not the case for both my setups.

If you were trying to confuse me with your wording, you certainly did. I'm not gonna waste time trying to decrypt that, so what are your settings for Halo to make it look like that? My TV is not bad, a 32" Samsung 720p so should be fine.

I can't tell if you were trying to say it is full of jaggies or it isn't, but it certainly is and how is there any denyin that? Its bc its at such a low resolution. In those pics Joey posted it looks like a high res.

Shape

12-23-07, 09:21 AM

Hey the pics look great but the black level is set way way to high. You should lower it few notches. Just IMO.

It isn't that dark. In order to get pictures without any blur, I had to set the camera to a quick shutter speed, which made it appear darker.

LAKE4742

12-23-07, 09:49 AM

I got my money back and ordered Samsung's top of the line LCD. LNT4671F! YES SUH! One of the guys over at TXB posted some pics of hi def movies and games on the 71F so you guys can take a look at its awesome PQ! I am sooo excited!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1774id0.jpg?t=1198017732

Save my favorite for last!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x235/TheLastName/1080p%20120hz%20LCD/img1241bo3.jpg?t=1198018169

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD FTW! I should have mine next week shipped from amazon.com! I ofcoruse don't have pics now. but just fyi..my setup will be..

Samsung 1080p 120hz LCD LNT4671F
Alienware Desktop PC hook up via vga to the samsung
360 Premium
PS3 60GB

Sound will have to wait...but hey...not bad for a 17 year old.

I really wish I hadn't seen those. The comparison shot is unbelievable! I don't see any black crush. It does look almost 3-d. Once the new LED tech reaches 60", I'm upgrading. Hopefully, in the meantime, I can avoid seeing pics like these.

tronn

12-23-07, 11:51 AM

Target will Have COD4 on sale for $37 (360 / PS3 / PC Version) starting 12/26.

gotcha! im on it...

cnickersonjr

12-23-07, 11:55 AM

gotcha! im on it...

Best Buy has it for $37.99 starting today. I'm going to Walmart, which is close by, to get a price match!

tronn

12-23-07, 11:57 AM

It depends on how much i spend. If i spend $500 i remove after 5 days, if i spend $1000 i remove after 10 days and so forth and so on.

well, thats kinda like what I was thinking. except i was just wary to remove said stickers then have some bad mojo on the tv and have it produce some backlighting problem or dead pixel. however its been 14 days now. TV is calibrated now using settings found here at AVS Forum. And I can't complain about anything on this tv, so I guess its a keeper.
Stickers have now been removed and but most of my incoming pics still show them.

tronn

12-23-07, 12:01 PM

Best Buy has it for $37.99 starting today. I'm going to Walmart, which is close by, to get a price match!

au jour d'hui? dang it. I have to clean up the yard first (dog shiite everywhere!) :eek:
I'll have to pick it up later today.

sweetness! :D

Joey Cusack

12-23-07, 02:11 PM

I really wish I hadn't seen those. The comparison shot is unbelievable! I don't see any black crush. It does look almost 3-d. Once the new LED tech reaches 60", I'm upgrading. Hopefully, in the meantime, I can avoid seeing pics like these.

Not to rub it in, BUT GEARS LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER IN PERSON ON THIS HDTV! ITS INSANE!

OH AND DRAKES FORTUNE!!!! GEEEEEEZ....THATS JUST TOO FREAKIN CRAZY LOOKIN ON THIS HDTV! Last night I ACTUALLy turned off drakes fortune early because this one part in the game looked so freakin insane and detailed that I just saved it and now I am gonna wait till my friend comes over to play anymore.

XMotoX

12-23-07, 02:22 PM

Joey is your TV LED or something? And what makes LED better? Lake said something about LED.

LAKE4742

12-23-07, 02:40 PM

Not to rub it in, BUT GEARS LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER IN PERSON ON THIS HDTV! ITS INSANE!

OH AND DRAKES FORTUNE!!!! GEEEEEEZ....THATS JUST TOO FREAKIN CRAZY LOOKIN ON THIS HDTV! Last night I ACTUALLy turned off drakes fortune early because this one part in the game looked so freakin insane and detailed that I just saved it and now I am gonna wait till my friend comes over to play anymore.

I feel much better now Joey, thanks for that info.:rolleyes: If you can, post more pics.

Joey is your TV LED or something? And what makes LED better? Lake said something about LED.

LED is a type of backlighting for the picture. I don't think the Samsung 4671 is LED backlit, but the 81 is. There's still issues with it in it's early stages, for LCD LED anyway. It gives a more vibrant picture, but as you can see, the 71 series is no slouch.

XMotoX

12-23-07, 03:31 PM

Yea plz post more pics esp of the Drakes Fortune shot your talking about... ( I know this is 360 forum, but I doubt anyone would care :P )

spyder696969

12-23-07, 04:03 PM

I'll admit to not reading every single post, but we're 209 pages in and I haven't seen a single shot of a screen with nothing on it due to the Ring of Death. Shocking.

XMotoX

12-23-07, 04:12 PM

209? try 140 lol

Vogon Poet

12-23-07, 04:25 PM

209? try 140 lol

If he has the board set to display 20 posts per page then it is indeed 209 pages long at this point.

:rolleyes:

XMotoX

12-23-07, 04:57 PM

oh never thought of that.

Joey Cusack

12-23-07, 05:23 PM

I feel much better now Joey, thanks for that info.:rolleyes: If you can, post more pics.

LED is a type of backlighting for the picture. I don't think the Samsung 4671 is LED backlit, but the 81 is. There's still issues with it in it's early stages, for LCD LED anyway. It gives a more vibrant picture, but as you can see, the 71 series is no slouch.

Well I don't have a HD camera. Dude on teamxbox does but we have the same tv and use the exact same settings so I post his.

So I'm so mad cus I wish I could invite you all to my house and show you what I am seeing RIGHT NOW! which is absolutly INSANE! It looks so good.

The AMP feature does more than just make things smooth and fluid just FYI. I don't know how to explain this but the way that AMP on high makes film look like video it does THE SAME FOR GAMES! Unbelievable? Believe it!

We tested it! with AMP on high it makes Drakes fortune look alot more realistic.....put it this way...AMP makes film look like video....and it makes game look like film! YES SUH!

Its sicktastic if that was ever a word. Drake's Fortune has some artifacts on high, but heavenly sword IS STR8 PERFECTION with amp on HIGH! and Gears of war!!!!??? dON'T GET ME STARTED NUKKA!

Man yall need to buy/send me a HD camera cuz I aint got no money left lol.

My last bit of cash is going to get a 360 with HDMI.

mboojigga

12-23-07, 05:57 PM

If you were trying to confuse me with your wording, you certainly did. I'm not gonna waste time trying to decrypt that, so what are your settings for Halo to make it look like that? My TV is not bad, a 32" Samsung 720p so should be fine.
I can't tell if you were trying to say it is full of jaggies or it isn't, but it certainly is and how is there any denyin that? .

I have a 70" XBR2 with Halo edition 360 with HDMI. Another LCOS 60" XBR1 with a launch 360 Premium with Component. Sorry I don't have the list of settings I have done on both displays.

Its bc its at such a low resolution. In those pics Joey posted it looks like a high res

You have now confused me.
Are you thinking those shots are from HALO instead of HALO 3 with the comments about low resolution?

XMotoX

12-23-07, 07:15 PM

Halo 3 was developed with a low resolution, so it doesn't matter what its upscaled too there is still gonna be the same source... that's what I was talkin about..

And I guess i'll just have to play around with my TV once i get my 360 back :(

Shape

12-23-07, 07:56 PM

Halo 3 was developed with a low resolution, so it doesn't matter what its upscaled too there is still gonna be the same source... that's what I was talkin about..

Not as low a resolution as Call of Duty 4, of course. Both games look amazing, though. I don't see how it matters.

XMotoX

12-23-07, 08:41 PM

Low resolution not only causes more jaggies but no AA does as well... thats my only complaint with Halo 3... on an HDTV with a high res you notice the jaggies worse bc the display has more pixels than H3 is giving it...

If you set far away its not really noticeable though, but if your up close it looks like crap!

thejokell

12-23-07, 08:45 PM

spyder696969

12-23-07, 11:15 PM

...saying it looks like crap is pure BS.

Not if you qualify the statement with the words, "Compared to many other 360 games, like Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, CoD4, etc, etc, etc..." Then it simply becomes a matter of fact, rather than opinion.

XMotoX

12-23-07, 11:37 PM

Exactly... knowing what the 360 will do left me unimpressed with Halo 3... Not what I was expecting at all for the next gen Halo... but whatever... I guess the framerate would of been horrible if it was made in a higher res...'

A simple google search will tell you I'm not the only one complaining about jaggies, because they are definetely there:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=halo+3+jaggies

Also, even though it says 720p on the box... its not... apparently its 640p then upscaled.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/28/halo-3-not-hd-runs-at-640p-pixel-counters-claim/

Anyhow, that's besides the point bc I was only wondering how that one guy got his Halo to look so dang good, because a better TV should only further show the faults in something thats already not great.

tronn

12-24-07, 06:00 PM

ok pacific time its about 3pm. our christmas parties dont start till 6pm. so here's more of a grab bag of mixed shots.

COD 4 Video - Perks (Video Marketplace)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0011.jpg

Alien Hominid (Live Arcade)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0021.jpg

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (Live Arcade)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0016.jpg

Geometry Wars (Live Arcade)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0018.jpg

tronn

12-24-07, 06:04 PM

Grab bag

Psychonauts (Xbox 1)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0014.jpg

Bugs Bunny (Live Marketplace)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0013.jpg

E4 (Live Arcade Demo)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0028.jpg

Forza 2 (Demo)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0029.jpg

tronn

12-24-07, 06:07 PM

The Incredibles (DVD)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0025.jpg

Forza 2 (Demo)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0027.jpg

Pinball Hall of Fame: Gottlieb Collection (Xbox 1)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0005.jpg

Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox 1) *note: this shot is start menu its 4:3. gameplay is 16x9
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0007.jpg

tronn

12-24-07, 06:12 PM

Galaga (Live Arcade)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0009.jpg

Alien Hominid (Live Arcade)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0002.jpg

Forza 2 (Demo)
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0022.jpg

E4 (Live Arcade Demo) *note: better than space giraffe. sorry j.minter
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd292/tronn4/2004_0101Image0024.jpg

darklordjames

12-24-07, 06:29 PM

Every Extend Extra Extreme is by the guy that did Rez, so of course it's better than Space Giraffe. :) Speaking of, Rez HD should be out in a couple months. I can't wait!

tronn

12-24-07, 06:52 PM

yeah that space giraffe was just a head trip. just too much of it. in its core its tempest and not much change (other than the graphics) in gameplay i can say i can see why it got the receivement it got from the gaming community. a general meh.

*edit: removed all sorts of stuff to comply with AVS's new Peace, Love, and Togetherness theme.
carry on, nothing to see here

football76

12-25-07, 01:25 PM

Here is my latest setup (yes, I have to leave this at home while I'm at college- its not worth the risk if you ask me, plus this stuff makes it kinda hard to study).

I just upgraded my speakers to 6 of those Insignia's from Best Buy, I really like 'em and I got them on sale. I love my Toshiba 32HL67, I went through 5 different TV's before I settled on this one and it hasn't let me down (I'll try and get some good screenshots but my camera has been grumpy lately). :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2136081674_1064043195_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/2136080200_f2ce8de251_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/2135300771_f710c6fa3f_b.jpg

spyder696969

12-25-07, 03:23 PM

Cinder block heaven! :)

football76

12-25-07, 03:42 PM

Cinder block heaven! :)
3 sets of speaker stands- $100
10 cinder blocks- $7.90
carrying cinder blocks to room- Priceless

-I'm a college student what else do you expect, pizza boxes? :p

JimmyD

12-25-07, 08:39 PM

...what else do you expect, pizza boxes? :p

mmmmm pizza.... ;)

Nayhova

12-25-07, 09:22 PM

NickG1215

12-25-07, 10:11 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/2135300771_f710c6fa3f_b.jpg
!!!!!

I have that same plush football thing. hahaha. love the cinder blocks too, i used milk crates when i was up at school last year. then my dad and i made some really nice ones for like $50 for 4 out of some pvc, drain flanges, and some stained pine

spyder696969

12-25-07, 10:44 PM

3 sets of speaker stands- $100
10 cinder blocks- $7.90
carrying cinder blocks to room- Priceless

-I'm a college student what else do you expect, pizza boxes? :p

From a college student, I'd expect a tower of beer cans and porn mags to hold the speakers. :D

darklordjames

12-25-07, 11:29 PM

"Hey DarklordJames can you tell me what kind of shelves those are that hold your dvds and games. Also if you can tell me where they can be purchased too. Thanks. Nice setup BTW"

I sure can!

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/07305310

They are Ikea's Benno CD Tower. They hold the most amount of media I have ever seen in the smallest mount of space. And at $40 a piece, they were only $360 to hold my $10,000+ worth of media. :) They don't make the metallic grey color that I have anymore, but the red and black-brown are really nice looking too, if you like dark colors. Otherwise they have 3 or 4 light colors available.

They have stood up to the last 8 years of use with no signs of wear, and have lived through 1 move and 3 or 4 living room rearrangements. They also have a notch cut out of the bottom-back corner to allow for baseboards or cables. The only complaint I really have about them is that a couple that I have are not perfectly flat, so the sides bow a little bit. I would assume a product of shipping/storage/cheapness. I'm sure pressing them before assembly could fix that. Also, when a couple of them are next to eachother, it can show off how uneven your floor is. These are things you only ever notice if you look for them though, in my experience. Overall, they have been great for me.

football76

12-26-07, 02:14 AM

From a college student, I'd expect a tower of beer cans and porn mags to hold the speakers. :D

But then how could I look at the porn mags? Cinder blocks are nice because they serve absolutely no other purpose, unless you're into cinder blocks or something... :p

whiskey > work

12-26-07, 10:20 AM

But then how could I look at the porn mags? Cinder blocks are nice because they serve absolutely no other purpose, unless you're into cinder blocks or something... :p

when I was in college, our place was just filled with trash. Your setup is nice for a college kid. Nobody cares at all in college if your setup is wack or not, seriously. These truly are your golden years. Chicks don't expect you to shower them with nice dinners or presents because they know you are a massively poor college student. Nice stuff just gets smashed anyways. We had a 27 inch standard def tube tv in our apt in college back in '01. We would just flick bottle caps at the thing and spill beer and pile garbage on it. We did have some great perfect dark and tony hawk 2 sessions. Oh yeah and tekken 3 was big. Oh and don't even get me started on buying nice furniture for an apartment. We actually had a somewhat decent sofa get totally wrecked by people doing somersaults while drunk onto it. So that's my advice for you college boys. Don't buy anything you're afraid will get wrecked because more than likely it will.

spyder696969

12-26-07, 11:17 AM

But then how could I look at the porn mags? Cinder blocks are nice because they serve absolutely no other purpose, unless you're into cinder blocks or something... :p

Good point. :)

Angry Bear

12-26-07, 02:33 PM

I just got my 55 inch Sony A3000, I'll be sure to post up some pics later.

standinghollow

12-27-07, 08:15 PM

Shape would you mind posting your picture settings for your 360 on your
60A3000.Those shots look amazing.I have the same tv.I use component.

Shape

12-27-07, 09:20 PM

standinghollow, honestly, it is nothing special. I just noodled around with the settings a tiny bit. They are mostly stock settings on the custom picture mode. I got a DVE HD-DVD for Christmas, though, and I'm planning on calibrating the display using it.

XMotoX

12-28-07, 02:04 AM

Shape, would you say your TV performs as good or better than the same size LCD or Plasma?

Whats the diff between RP and DLP? Which is superior?

Shape

12-28-07, 08:42 AM

Shape, would you say your TV performs as good or better than the same size LCD or Plasma?

It was CHEAPER than the same size LCD or Plasma. :) And a quality 60" LCD or plasma is probably 2.5 to 4 times the price of my RPTV.

Each technology has its issues. With RPTV, vertical viewing angles are pretty narrow, but side to side viewing angles are pretty good. Viewing angles are better with plasma and LCD all around.

LCDs vary greatly for black level, and so do plasmas.

This particular RPTV has an excellent black level, but it isn't as good as the best LCDs or plasmas.

The A3000 has excellent color reproduction. Better than pretty much any other TV on the market from what I have seen.

RPTVs won't be as sharp as an LCD or plasma, but the difference is pretty minor since we are talking a 1080p display. If you are a few inches from the screen, you might notice that the pixels aren't as well defined on a RPTV compared to an LCD/plasma.

Whats the diff between RP and DLP? Which is superior?

DLP is a type of projection, so I don't really understand the question.

Between DLP and SXRD, I think that SXRD is the superior technology.

XMotoX

12-28-07, 11:57 AM

That clears it up, thanks.

I think it if were me, Id buy what you have (if I had the space), because considering your not gonna be as close to it as on a small set your really not gonna notice much if any diff in the pixels. Too bad I really have no more room for anything higher than a 32" lol

Oh and yea I meanat SXRD compared to DLP... Sony just calls it rear projection on their site (they prob call it SXRD too I just didn't look hard enough)

Uptown193

12-28-07, 12:49 PM

I thought this was a post your xbox 360 screenshots and the tv your using page but i dont see anyone posting anything just a lot of chit chat. The last 15 posts there is not one picture.

antwon412

12-28-07, 01:34 PM

^^^^^and that makes 16.

(and this makes 17)

football76

12-28-07, 01:54 PM

I am guilty, but in all honesty why would someone post their setup if they don't want to discuss it. People like to show off their stuff, its human nature. Just as long as its not "bickering" back and forth or arguing I think it's ok to discuss things. :)

18...

bruce banner

12-28-07, 02:49 PM

It was CHEAPER than the same size LCD or Plasma. :) And a quality 60" LCD or plasma is probably 2.5 to 4 times the price of my RPTV.

Each technology has its issues. With RPTV, vertical viewing angles are pretty narrow, but side to side viewing angles are pretty good. Viewing angles are better with plasma and LCD all around.

LCDs vary greatly for black level, and so do plasmas.

This particular RPTV has an excellent black level, but it isn't as good as the best LCDs or plasmas.

The A3000 has excellent color reproduction. Better than pretty much any other TV on the market from what I have seen.

RPTVs won't be as sharp as an LCD or plasma, but the difference is pretty minor since we are talking a 1080p display. If you are a few inches from the screen, you might notice that the pixels aren't as well defined on a RPTV compared to an LCD/plasma.

DLP is a type of projection, so I don't really understand the question.

Between DLP and SXRD, I think that SXRD is the superior technology.
Sample and Hold technologies:
LCD
LCoS
OLED

Plasma and DLP use "Pulse Width Modulation" which results in a smoother image during fast moving action.

Uptown193

12-30-07, 07:45 PM

Wallskm

12-30-07, 10:07 PM

Well, here's my setup: an Optoma HD-70. I don't think I could go back to a smaller screen. Call of duty with the volume cranked up is awesome on this.

https://publish.comcast.net/rpath/DikjSJnuri9hMdq-7bJWHZ290RLYPlkrp9KwYidu4VI0OrNkFTyWtm-5_zLfM8zcBCWBnfMK5eqkscbUZ4GR85daoCBsS0QFsQnEQYxkiPQH-6LlxdWEN0Epk326TZlr/

https://publish.comcast.net/rpath/jDZaNUgcKHhgiYmKKWjBBbmSx5YW5xEg_KGHCAC00Pu2RmIerX3gLASnHoXW 6KCuxry3qdkKBuSjQ6TzZL8H6advpWCok0egMAbEZcwOV3f2w1QTW5ntC01e Y2ZWBcdi/

spyder696969

12-30-07, 10:32 PM

this is not a discussion thread its a post ur 360 and ur setup.

So where's your picture for this quoted post? :confused:

readthiisnow

12-31-07, 12:58 AM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/gamefanatic/PS3012.jpg

Here's your favorite assassin Altair. TV: Samsung 37 in LN-375HA.

kicks

12-31-07, 02:54 AM

Assasin's Creed contemplating selling it and getting Mass Effect, is it worth it. I have already beat it.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3046/dsc03889ak0.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2828/dsc03888mh1.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7754/dsc03882lz1.jpg

Viper98

12-31-07, 01:25 PM

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/663/56978631ay8.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6743/57672639ey6.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8156/20868981my5.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4718/40200255vp1.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9826/41681722sq1.jpg

switch42

12-31-07, 05:03 PM

What game is that Viper? I thought for a sec Mass Effect but then I thought Prefect Dark Zero. I haven't really seen either but from a few screenshots...

Viper98

12-31-07, 05:08 PM

Perfect Dark Zero

XMotoX

12-31-07, 05:39 PM

wow pdz looks that good? amazing.

randy5554

12-31-07, 05:53 PM

wow pdz looks that good? amazing.
The walls look good.

darklordjames

12-31-07, 10:09 PM

Parts of PDZ look great, others not so much. PDZ really wasnt given the credit it was due. I would guess that this is because people expect better out of Rare, therefore judge them harder.

AHDTVDiet

12-31-07, 10:17 PM

Parts of PDZ look great, others not so much. PDZ really wasnt given the credit it was due. I would guess that this is because people expect better out of Rare, therefore judge them harder.
I didnt expect anything out of Rare, I just thought it was a really really really crpy game. Those images make the game look nicer then it actually was.

Viper98

01-01-08, 12:00 PM

I didnt expect anything out of Rare, I just thought it was a really really really crpy game. Those images make the game look nicer then it actually was.

PDZ is a superb game

I'd still put it in the upper echelon of 360 FPS games... even above Halo 3

BillKen

01-01-08, 12:51 PM

Here's a couple updated shots of my setup since getting a couple new components.

I'll try to get some better shots of my setup some other day.

Pioneer Elite Pro940HD 42" plasma
PS3
Pace 778x cable box
Toshiba HD-A35 hd-dvd
Harman/Kardon AVR235 with HK HTKS8 5.1 surround
Monoprice 4/1 HDMI switch
Xbox 360 Elite
APC H15 power conditioner/surge protector
BDI Vista stand

http://btz.smugmug.com/photos/238329802-L.jpg

http://btz.smugmug.com/photos/238330111-L.jpg

Viper98

01-01-08, 01:19 PM

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9233/56127424tn3.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5044/97230336wb6.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6016/18226183zc4.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/622/13342056ox5.jpg

tdogroeder

01-01-08, 01:37 PM

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/622/13342056ox5.jpg[/IMG]

What game is that?

Viper98

01-01-08, 01:52 PM

Earth Defense Force 2017

spyder696969

01-01-08, 02:11 PM

Earth Defense Force 2017

Yep, who knew a game that's a year old and got no press could look so good? :)

If you have an ant farm, don't buy this game. :D

rocketknight73

01-01-08, 02:15 PM

maingon

01-01-08, 02:44 PM

KernalROM

01-01-08, 02:47 PM

Looks really nice... I like the organized look.

I was wondering about the amount of heat your electronics stack produces..

Do you have heat related issues at all?

Bryan

XMotoX

01-01-08, 03:37 PM

Really? I personally dont like the look of 50 boxes on top of one another lol. That would be distracting from the screen for me.

Amazing wire management tho.

Revolt

01-01-08, 03:49 PM

Yeah. I agree with moto.. i never liked haveing the electronics right next to, or under the tv.

longhorns

01-01-08, 03:59 PM

Hey Billken, that's some amazing wire management skill. I think i need to set up an appointment lol.

BillKen

01-01-08, 04:00 PM

Thanks for the replies.

To each their own on component stacks - my space is pretty limited (as my pictures show) - so the BDI Vista stand was the best use of the limited space I have. I wish I had a better way to hide all my components too - but I don't. I guess it's nice that I can dim the hd-dvd and avr if I want.

As far as heat goes - starting from the bottom. The APC generates no heat at all - so that's why my Xbox 360 is on it - the Monoprice switch sits neatly atop the Xbox 360 between the left/right vents. All that is still about 2 inches below the middle shelf.

The middle shelf just houses the H/K AVR - only thing on that is the center channel (which I'm not happy about but oh well) - and it just barely covers a couple of the very front vents of the AVR - otherwise the AVR is completely vented. There's about 5 inches between the AVR and the top shelf.

The top shelf has my Toshiba HD-A35 hd-dvd which has no vents on top of it - which is why my Pace cable box is on top of it. The only thing I'm not wild about is my PS3 being on top of the cable box as it does cover a fair number of vents (I sure wish the PS3 was stackable - I HATE that stupid rounded off top) - however the sides and most of the back are open on the cable box - plus if the PS3 is on - the cable box is off and vice versa.

So to answer your question - no - no heat issues at all.

KernalROM

01-01-08, 04:58 PM

Hey Billken, that's some amazing wire management skill. I think i need to set up an appointment lol.

Yeah... You are definatly a wire managment ninja!

Wallskm

01-01-08, 05:28 PM

Nice pics.

I'm interested in the HD - 70. How far is your projector sitting away from your screen? Is it on a table or wall, ceiling mounted?

Thanks ahead of time!

Rocketknight, I'm very happy with my HD70. I upgraded this summer from a BenQ PB6200, and it's great. My projector is about 16 feet back, wall-mounted.

longhorns

01-02-08, 01:42 AM

Hey Billken, what kind of lights are you using behind your TV, do you really think it enhances the experience?

flakbait

01-02-08, 01:49 AM

http://uploader.ws/upload/200801/setuppic_1.jpg

My setup... 40" Samsung 720p LCD

Revolt

01-02-08, 02:05 AM

Nice setup man. Love those speakers. Just get some zip ties on those wires or something. :)

BillKen

01-02-08, 07:56 AM

Hey Billken, what kind of lights are you using behind your TV, do you really think it enhances the experience?

It's just a single standard CinemaQuest Ideal Lume.

http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ideal_lumesb.htm

And yes - it's a HUGE help - especially late at night while gaming or movie watching with the lights out. It helps enhance the black levels, hues, shadows and so forth - and also a really nice side effect is reduced eyestrain for me and my 40 year old tired eyes. :)

flakbait

01-02-08, 11:55 AM

Nice setup man. Love those speakers. Just get some zip ties on those wires or something. :)

yah, I've been lazy :D

bflip1080

01-02-08, 02:36 PM

Well, here is my rat nest of a setup. i feel like a slob after seeing the guys picture further up. i have cable ties i just have not been ambitious enough to tackle the mess. well the important thing is when it is dark you can't see the cables:) anyway here she is my new 40" samsung i bought to replace my 32" vizio. i need to get some better shots. i took these with borrowed camera i only had for 15 min.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/reymudo/IMG_0768_2.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/reymudo/IMG_0772.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/reymudo/IMG_0774.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/reymudo/IMG_0766.jpg