Here in Las Vegas, Cox has had Sci Fi HD for awhile, so don't fret. It's coming soon to a TV near you. Here is the current HD line-up (with some future HD channel announcements) for Cox Las vegas. I would expect all Cox markets to have these channels shortly. I should add that we have pretty much completed our EON upgrade.
High-definition Programming
699 HD Movies On DEMAND
701 HD PPV
703 NBC HD
705 FOX HD
706 The CW HD
707 TBS HD
708 CBS HD
710 PBS HD
713 ABC HD
718 TNT HD
720 CNN HD
721 Fox News HD New! 12-30-08
724 FX HD New! 12-30-08
723 Nickelodeon HD
725 Discovery Channel HD
726 Lifetime HD
729 Spike TV HD
730 ESPN HD
731 ESPN2 HD
732 A&E HD
733 The Learning Channel HD
734 USA Network HD
735 CNBC HD
737 MTV HD
739 VH1 HD
742 Food Network HD
743 History Channel HD
745 SciFi HD
752 AMC HD New! 12-17-08
753 Bravo HD
755 HGTV HD
757 CMT HD
758 Animal Planet HD
766 Travel Channel HD
767 Versus HD New! 12-08-08
768 National Geographic HD
769 The Science Channel HD
770 Discovery HD Theater
771 Planet Green HD
780 NFL Network HD
781 Golf Channel HD New! 12-08-08
782 Speed Channel HD New! 12-30-08
791 Palladia (Music HD)
792 Universal HD
793 Lifetime Movie Network HD New! 12-17-08
800 HBO HD
810 Cinemax HD
820 Showtime HD
830 Starz HD

Here in Las Vegas, Cox has had Sci Fi HD for awhile, so don't fret. It's coming soon to a TV near you. Here is the current HD line-up (with some future HD channel announcements) for Cox Las vegas. I would expect all Cox markets to have these channels shortly. I should add that we have pretty much completed our EON upgrade.
High-definition Programming
699 HD Movies On DEMAND
701 HD PPV
703 NBC HD
705 FOX HD
706 The CW HD
707 TBS HD
708 CBS HD
710 PBS HD
713 ABC HD
718 TNT HD
720 CNN HD
721 Fox News HD New! 12-30-08
724 FX HD New! 12-30-08
723 Nickelodeon HD
725 Discovery Channel HD
726 Lifetime HD
729 Spike TV HD
730 ESPN HD
731 ESPN2 HD
732 A&E HD
733 The Learning Channel HD
734 USA Network HD
735 CNBC HD
737 MTV HD
739 VH1 HD
742 Food Network HD
743 History Channel HD
745 SciFi HD
752 AMC HD New! 12-17-08
753 Bravo HD
755 HGTV HD
757 CMT HD
758 Animal Planet HD
766 Travel Channel HD
767 Versus HD New! 12-08-08
768 National Geographic HD
769 The Science Channel HD
770 Discovery HD Theater
771 Planet Green HD
780 NFL Network HD
781 Golf Channel HD New! 12-08-08
782 Speed Channel HD New! 12-30-08
791 Palladia (Music HD)
792 Universal HD
793 Lifetime Movie Network HD New! 12-17-08
800 HBO HD
810 Cinemax HD
820 Showtime HD
830 Starz HD

In New England we have almost every channel listed minus COmedy (Decemeber 2008), Speed HD, and FOx news HD. I know there are plans to add a few more channels in December according to a Cox "contact". So those looking for channels they are comming slowly but surely. I know in New England we have more choices then most since we have FIOS and DirectTv both which are killing Cox in HD content, so we may get "priority" with some channel addtions.

http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/passport_tru2way.htm

Here is what the new SA guides for Tru2way looklike for SA/Cisco still no Passport DCT version unless they can port passport over to Motorola

http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/passport_tru2way.htm

Here is what the new SA guides for Tru2way look like for SA/Cisco, still no Passport DCT version unless they can port passport over to Motorola
Thanks for posting that. I just skimmed it so far, but why do you say SA/Cisco only? tru2way should run on any compatible box. They part of the article I skimmed said "carries forward features and functions from Passport Echo available on the native Motorola and Scientific Atlanta platforms". I'll read further after I get home from work tonight. Just curious.

Thanks for posting that. I just skimmed it so far, but why do you say SA/Cisco only? tru2way should run on any compatible box. They part of the article I skimmed said "carries forward features and functions from Passport Echo available on the native Motorola and Scientific Atlanta platforms". I'll read further after I get home from work tonight. Just curious.

Now that I read the Features link it says view 7 Channels for 2 hours of info. The current Passport/DCT/Echo only does 5 channels with one overlaping, so really it's only 4 channels with 1 and half hours of info like the tvguide channel on tv does. Hopefully this will port over to the Motorola boxes also.

If you look on the side on the webpage there is no mention of a Passport DCT tru2way port.


this must be the option for those who do not want the new NDS port.

Listings View
Displays up to 2 hours and 7 channels of programming in the 16x9 display and has custom sorting, filtering and language options

Omaha will not have the 60 HD as I as was told in a email since they can't get the contract signed. I thought since they have national contracts would make it easier for the local cox to add the channels when they had channel space. Why the need for local contracts except for the local channels and maybe the FSN for the area.

Dave can you see if your contact knows anything about the Motorola tru2way software. The link I posted talks about dvr functions but it is labled passport tru2way. I bet they will have that one ported over to to motorola since it talks about the dvr function it must be one app for both models/ makes of boxes and since Passport DCT is still need ed until tru2way comes out thats why its still listed.

Omaha will not have the 60 HD as I as was told in a email since they can't get the contract signed. I thought since they have national contracts would make it easier for the local cox to add the channels when they had channel space. Why the need for local contracts except for the local channels and maybe the FSN for the area.
Well, if you are going by my list, it assumes that if one market has a channel there is a national agreement, except for HDNet, and that may be a false assumption. The list really only lists those channels that at least one Cox market has. I never heard of needing a local agreement once there was a national agreement.

Now that I read the Features link it says view 7 Channels for 2 hours of info. The current Passport/DCT/Echo only does 5 channels with one overlaping, so really it's only 4 channels with 1 and half hours of info like the tvguide channel on tv does. Hopefully this will port over to the Motorola boxes also.

If you look on the side on the webpage there is no mention of a Passport DCT tru2way port.


this must be the option for those who do not want the new NDS port.

Listings View
Displays up to 2 hours and 7 channels of programming in the 16x9 display and has custom sorting, filtering and language options
The thing is that just because MacroVision announces a new version that will work on Cisco/Motorola boxes, that doesn't mean any cableco is set to use it.

I'm am so confused as to what's going on with IPGs right now. We had Gemstar/TVGuide announce this new IPG based on Passport before MacroVision bought them. Then Cox mentioned an agreement with NDS to do basically the same thing with tru2way. Now we have MacroVision announce their tru2way version (the non-tru2way version has been on the Pioneer Digital website (http://www.pioneerdigital.com/passportecho/passportecho.asp) for some time and looks quite the same).

I've posted that people "in the know" have said we will have 3 IPGs to choose from; a basic one based on Passport, an HD one also based on Passport, and the Tivo port, the latter 2 for an added fee. I have no doubt we will get a new IPG with tru2way and it will run on all tru2way compatible devices. AFAIK, that includes both Cisco and Motorola DVRs. In fact, if you check my link, you will see it specifically says Motorola and Cisco. I will email my contact, but I don't hold much hope for a reply just yet, I doubt any decision has been made that can be made public.

Omaha will not have the 60 HD as I as was told in a email since they can't get the contract signed. I thought since they have national contracts would make it easier for the local cox to add the channels when they had channel space. Why the need for local contracts except for the local channels and maybe the FSN for the area.

Its just the way Cox does business, even though as a whole they are a National company, each Market is handeled as an individual "company". I dont think there are many national agreements that Cox has, most are local agreements that all COx markets just happen to have. IMO it makes things "sticky" since youll have 2-3 , markets with early rollouts, more channels ect, and youll have others lagging behind. I know that different markets are at different places as far as capacity, and tech goes, but there should still be some easier way to do this then making local contracts for almost every addition.

New HD for CT:

Eff. 12/17:
Fox Business
Fox News
Speed
FX
Cartoon Network

Eff. 12/31:
E!

http://www.dpuc.state.ct.us/DPUCUndocketed.nsf/6e9beec82815c42f85256a61005a47fc/85256a63004def96852575160068ad28/$FILE/Cox%20Communications%20New%20England%20-%20Programming%20Changes.PDF

Goodbye Cox. I just switched to DirecTV for the sports content which Cox cannot and compete with. Someday maybe Cox will get a clue and get competitive.

as long as I get my Lakers, Cowboys and Yankees, Im A OK

Bad news for Cox in Cleveland people. Just saw something on their website they are in a contract dispute with Raycom and as of January 1st we may lose Cbs. Is that possible to lose a local channel on cable?!@

SPECIAL NOTICE:
Cox Communications is required by law to receive permission from broadcast stations to carry their signals on our video channel lineup. Cox is currently negotiating with Raycom Stations to continue carrying its signal on channels 4, 6, 210, 704 and 706 and we are optimistic an agreement will be reached. However, should no agreement be reached, effective January 1, 2009, WOIO (CBS), WUAB (My Network TV), Weather Now, WOIO HD and WUAB HD may no longer be available on the Cox lineup. Cox is required to notify customers of these possible changes to the channel lineup. Cox is committed to reaching an agreement so that there is no disruption to our customers.

Bad news for Cox in Cleveland people. Just saw something on their website they are in a contract dispute with Raycom and as of January 1st we may lose Cbs. Is that possible to lose a local channel on cable?!@

SPECIAL NOTICE:
Cox Communications is required by law to receive permission from broadcast stations to carry their signals on our video channel lineup. Cox is currently negotiating with Raycom Stations to continue carrying its signal on channels 4, 6, 210, 704 and 706 and we are optimistic an agreement will be reached. However, should no agreement be reached, effective January 1, 2009, WOIO (CBS), WUAB (My Network TV), Weather Now, WOIO HD and WUAB HD may no longer be available on the Cox lineup. Cox is required to notify customers of these possible changes to the channel lineup. Cox is committed to reaching an agreement so that there is no disruption to our customers.
yes it is possible and happened with Cox in Omaha where we lost our CBSHD for awhile and in 2007-08 we lost ABCHD since cox and our local affliates couldn't come to an agreement.

Bad news for Cox in Cleveland people. Just saw something on their website they are in a contract dispute with Raycom and as of January 1st we may lose Cbs. Is that possible to lose a local channel on cable?!@

SPECIAL NOTICE:
Cox Communications is required by law to receive permission from broadcast stations to carry their signals on our video channel lineup. Cox is currently negotiating with Raycom Stations to continue carrying its signal on channels 4, 6, 210, 704 and 706 and we are optimistic an agreement will be reached. However, should no agreement be reached, effective January 1, 2009, WOIO (CBS), WUAB (My Network TV), Weather Now, WOIO HD and WUAB HD may no longer be available on the Cox lineup. Cox is required to notify customers of these possible changes to the channel lineup. Cox is committed to reaching an agreement so that there is no disruption to our customers.


I wouldn't worry about it. Both sides are holding out for money and in the end they both need eachother.

yes it is possible and happened with Cox in Omaha where we lost our CBSHD for awhile and in 2007-08 we lost ABCHD since cox and our local affliates couldn't come to an agreement.

It happened here too. About ten years ago we lost Fox for a couple of weeks over the issue of channel placement.

Cox Cleveland just this week (12/09/08) added several HD channels. More changes are scheduled for 12/31/08.

699 HD Movies On DEMAND
701 HD PPV
702 PBS HD WVIZ
703 NBC HD WKYC
704 CBS HD WOIO
705 ABC HD WEWS
706 My TV HD WUAB
707 The CW HD
708 Fox HD WJW
709 National Geographic HD
710 Universal HD
713 NFL Network HD
714 FSN HD Fox Sports Net N. Ohio seldom any programing
715 MTV HD
716 TBS HD
717 The Learning Channel HD
722 History Channel HD
723 A&E HD
724 AMC HD
725 ESPN HD
726 ESPN2 HD
727 USA Network HD
728 Nickelodeon HD
729 TWC HD
730 Spike TV HD
732 CNBC HD
733 Discovery Channel HD
734 TNT HD
735 Lifetime HD
736 CNN HD
738 VH1 HD
740 Food Network HD
741 HGTV HD
742 Animal Planet HD
744 Palladia (Music HD)
745 HDTheater
746 HMC HD Hallmark
747 Travel Channel HD
749 SciFi HD
758 STO HD Sports Time Ohio Indians
759 CMT HD
761 Bravo HD
762 B10 HD Big 10 Collage Sports
775The Science Channel HD
776 Planet Green HD

Not sure about the following pay channels.

800 HBO HD
810 Cinemax HD
820 Showtime HD
830 Starz HD

I would trade a whole bunch of channels for:
Versus HD and Speed Channel HD

5 New HD channels and Fox Business to launch on or about December 29th, 2008
(SAN DIEGO) December 9, 2008 – We are pleased to announce that 5 new HD channels and Fox Business will launch on December 29, 2008. Fox Business will be available to customers with Cox Digital Cable and the Sports & Information digital package. Fox News HD, Speed HD, FX HD, Cartoon HD and E! HD will be available to Cox Digital Cable customers with Cox Standard Cable and HD service!
:D

Cox OKC has announced that they are adding FX HD and several other new HD channels on 12/31. That was welcome news, indeed. I have been waiting a loooong time for FX HD to finally show up. That means I can see the new season's Damages and The Riches episodes in HD.

Cox OKC has announced that they are adding FX HD and several other new HD channels on 12/31. That was welcome news, indeed. I have been waiting a loooong time for FX HD to finally show up. That means I can see the new season's Damages and The Riches episodes in HD.

You won't be seeing The Riches, at least no new eps. Cancelled...

You won't be seeing The Riches, at least no new eps. Cancelled...
That's too bad, I liked the show. Obviously, I had not heard about its cancellation.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6620568.html?nid=4682&source=title&rid=5412781

Fox to go all HD

I'm in Tulsa, OK and have had Cox now for 6 months. In my last home, I had DirecTV for about 6 years since I used to work for them.

I would still like to have DTV but my new apartment has no porch/windows/etc. that face South; they all face North. :(

But anyway, I have always been a little unhappy with the HD quality on Cox. On DTV, the HD channels look a lot sharper and more crisp than any of them do on Cox. I have researched this awhile ago and it's a bandwidth issue. DTV/Dish have bandwidth issues too but I had read that to increase bandwidth for HD stations for cable companies is much more of a nightmare.

Thankfully, I do not see any decrease in quality of any HD stations when we get new ones from Cox. I have heard of horrible quality issues from adding new HD stations with Comcast before. In the last 6 months, Cox has added dozens of new HD stations which makes me really happy. But the bottom line is still that the HD stations via satellite look a lot better.

Now, before you reply let me set a few things straight. I am a home theater junkie and have been an a/v enthusiast for over 15 years now since I was 12. This has absolutely nothing to do with my setup. Blu-ray/HD DVD looks f'ing awesome on my HT as it should since it's the best HD source material out there. It has always looked better than broadcast HD so that's nothing new.

All this leads to some questions/concerns I have about my Cox HD service. Is Cox having to decrease the bandwidth for their hd channels when they keep adding more as they have been? Will Cox or any cable tv's hd channels ever look as good as satellite? Is there any info on a new dvr unit being used any time soon in Cox markets (this Motorola 160gb latest model dvr is garbage imo-- slow response times, FS menus even when set to WS, etc.)?

I feel I already know the answers to these questions but I just want to make sure.

Thanks in advance.

Cox has been using 3 HD channels per QAM like Comcast for a while now, though Cox has managed things better than Comcast did at the start. As Cox finishes upgrades across the country, they will have the option to increase quality, though by then there will be even more HD channels to add, so don't count on it. New channels being added should be of similar quality to ones added over the last 6-8 months, and they won't cause any further degradation of existing channels. As for the receivers, everything is pretty much in a holding pattern right now awaiting the arrival of tru2way-compliant hardware. There's little incentive to fix things right now when a fundamental change is coming over the next year. Cox has various deals signed with companies to develop all new software which should roll out sometime in the next year.

well according to the Tech Support here in middle georgia, the EON upgrade was finished in February. Now, I'm assuming the tech support person that received my email even knew what EON was or just b.s.'ing me. But if we did finish the upgrade then, then we should have at least as much HD as the rest of the country. Instead, we have 1 of the smallest HD lineup. I'm starting to think, it's not so much as the don't have the capability to add more they just don't want to. I've talked to people at work, and no one I work with cares that cox has such a small HD lineup. They just pay and seem to not care about the rest of the HD channels out there. I have a bad feeling we are in the minority when it comes to wanting more HD, and the masses are to stupid to know better. For me I could care less if a channel is not 24/7 HD, just as long as new and primetime shows are in HD.

Are you sure they meant Feb 2008 and not 2009? I got an email from Cox saying new channels were launching at my parent's house in AZ on Feb 29, 2009, and I'm pretty sure 2009 isn't a leap year. Cox's CSRs aren't the brightest people in the world.

My understanding is that EON doesn't necessarily include the buildout to 1Ghz, though that is the eventual goal. I've been told that some markets will remain at 860 for awhile even though EON will be finished in those markets. IMHO, the bigger deal with EON will be the supposed reduction in homes on each node, eventually down to just 250 from the current 600+. This from a Nov 2007 press release:
All in all, 50% of the EON upgrades have been completed, and Bowick said most of the rest of the work will be completed at the end of 2008.

http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870

860 vs. 1000 makes no difference for video services since the only devices that work beyond 860 are DOCSIS 3.0 cable modems. Looking at the lineup for Middle Georgia on Cox's website, I wouldn't be surprised if it was still running at 750 since the lineup is pretty close to what is available on Phoenix's 750.

well the lineup online does not have all our HD. mid november they added bravo, science, green, cnbc, and 1 other that I can't remember right now. I don't have HD through cox anymore, because of this.

I just don't understand why we are not a test market for these new services like SDV or anything else. We are only an hour south of Cox's headquarters in Atlanta. Wouldn't it make sense for the suits to drive an hour and see their new stuff in action than having to travel up north and wherever else around the country they are trying stuff.

My understanding is that EON doesn't necessarily include the buildout to 1Ghz, though that is the eventual goal. I've been told that some markets will remain at 860 for awhile even though EON will be finished in those markets. IMHO, the bigger deal with EON will be the supposed reduction in homes on each node, eventually down to just 250 from the current 600+. This from a Nov 2007 press release:


http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870

Dave did you notice that info was from 2007 and said that the EON upgrades should me done by the of 2008.

My understanding is that EON doesn't necessarily include the buildout to 1Ghz, though that is the eventual goal. I've been told that some markets will remain at 860 for awhile even though EON will be finished in those markets. IMHO, the bigger deal with EON will be the supposed reduction in homes on each node, eventually down to just 250 from the current 600+. This from a Nov 2007 press release:

Dave did you notice that info was from 2007 and said that the EON upgrades should me done by the of 2008.
Yes, I did, read my last sentence. :)

It looks like they will miss the end of 2008 by about 3 months here, last ETA we have for different areas of Phoenix is March 2009.

does anybody know if cox hampton roads, VA has put out anything like this? I'd be really excited if they started showing FX in HD, they usually have good movies on. Most everything else that I'd care about we have already

does anybody know if cox hampton roads, VA has put out anything like this? I'd be really excited if they started showing FX in HD, they usually have good movies on. Most everything else that I'd care about we have already

Duffman check out the local thread for Cox. We have been discussing the new channels coming to the area.

I'm with Cox in Tulsa and I just noticed yesterday that my Moto box must have received a software update. When I click Guide of DVR List, a "One Moment Please" box appears in the top right hand corner and the overall interface appears to be much, much faster. Definitely a welcome change. Does anybody else have any information on this update? I wonder if there were any actual feature changes.

I wish Cox OKC would replace the unspeakably sorry SARA software on its Scientific Atlanta 8300HD boxes. It hasn't happened yet, though. Fortunately, my main DVR is a TiVo Series3, so I only have to use the 8300HD as a backup, which,. trust me on this, is a blessing.

I'm with Cox in Tulsa and I just noticed yesterday that my Moto box must have received a software update. When I click Guide of DVR List, a "One Moment Please" box appears in the top right hand corner and the overall interface appears to be much, much faster. Definitely a welcome change. Does anybody else have any information on this update? I wonder if there were any actual feature changes.


I was trying to find more information as well. I noticed the change yesterday. It now lets you move around the guide much faster when you are on an HD channel. That was always one of my biggest complaints.

I was trying to find more information as well. I noticed the change yesterday. It now lets you move around the guide much faster when you are on an HD channel. That was always one of my biggest complaints.

can you with the remote press menu, b, up arrow, down arrow, b and post what software version you have.

Cox in Pensacola, Florida Are getting 14 new HD channels... AMC HD, VH1 HD, SPIKE HD, FX HD, FOX NEWS HD, SPEED HD ,COMEDY CENTRAL HD, NICK HD TRAVEL HD ,STARZ, HD ,MAX HD, MTV HD, HALMARK HD,CMT HD :D

One change with this new software patch that I really do not like, is on the View Disk Info screen, it no longer gives hours, it gives percent.

and, i couldnt get the code ajwees41 posted to work.

One change with this new software patch that I really do not like, is on the View Disk Info screen, it no longer gives hours, it gives percent.

and, i couldnt get the code ajwees41 posted to work.

my bad I forgot you need to press the menu button on the remote first than b,up,b,down and that should bring up the hidden menu with the software and firmware version.

One change with this new software patch that I really do not like, is on the View Disk Info screen, it no longer gives hours, it gives percent.

and, i couldnt get the code ajwees41 posted to work.

Yes, I agree. I talked about this new "feature" and all the other new features of the 18.45 firmware here last week:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=899801&page=42

Yes, I agree. I talked about this new "feature" and all the other new features of the 18.45 firmware here last week:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=899801&page=42

the feature you are talking about is in the dvr software not in the firmware. The firmware and software are two different things.

my bad I forgot you need to press the menu button on the remote first than b,up,b,down and that should bring up the hidden menu with the software and firmware version.

That still didn't work. I followed the instructions here (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Firmware_and_Software#How_To_Check_Your_Firmware_and_Softwar e_Versions_.28Universal.29) and got to the black text on white background menu. It gave me a firmware version of 16.55

Platform Built: Version: 16.55 May 9 2008 11:42:50

Sorry if this has been answered. I have Cox/Fairfax, and an HDTV with digital Tuner. I do not have a cable box of any sort.

What channels do I get in HD? Just the Locals? Will this change after that OTA Analog to Digital cut off date?

I just dont want to pay for an HD/Digital cable box.

yes only locals, i get locals on cable sets and the rest on the 3 sets with boxs

Sorry if this has been answered. I have Cox/Fairfax, and an HDTV with digital Tuner. I do not have a cable box of any sort.

What channels do I get in HD? Just the Locals? Will this change after that OTA Analog to Digital cut off date?

I just dont want to pay for an HD/Digital cable box.

you will only get locals. and no the Analog cutoff will not change anything since you get service from Cox and not OTA.

Analog only, Thats lame.

I was pretty sure that is that way it would be... but I was hoping they would start transmitting in digital, without requiring a box.

Oh Well

Sorry if this has been answered. I have Cox/Fairfax, and an HDTV with digital Tuner. I do not have a cable box of any sort.

What channels do I get in HD? Just the Locals? Will this change after that OTA Analog to Digital cut off date?
If your TV has a QAM tuner you can get the local Digital (no necessarily HD) channels by hooking up the cable directly to your TV. If Cox in Fairfax is anything like Cox in Phoenix the channel numbers are not very organized and they seem to move around a

Analog only, Thats lame.

I was pretty sure that is that way it would be... but I was hoping they would start transmitting in digital, without requiring a box.

Oh Well

What do you mean you were sure that's the way it woud be? I think most cox areas simulcast the analog tier so if your tv has the right tuner you should get the digital version.

Analog only, Thats lame.

I was pretty sure that is that way it would be... but I was hoping they would start transmitting in digital, without requiring a box.

Oh Well
Who said analog only? You will get the digital locals with your digital tuner. If it's an OTA tuner, you will need an antenna. If it's a QAM-capable tuner, you will get the digital locals from your cableco, but you will have to scan for them and they do move around from time to time. Cable is required to broadcast local digital channels without encryption. So, as long as you subscribe to at least Basic Cable, you will get the local digital channels without needing a box. If you want any more digital.HD channels, you will need a box or a cablecard.

Who said analog only? You will get the digital locals with your digital tuner. If it's an OTA tuner, you will need an antenna. If it's a QAM-capable tuner, you will get the digital locals from your cableco, but you will have to scan for them and they do move around from time to time. Cable is required to broadcast local digital channels without encryption. So, as long as you subscribe to at least Basic Cable, you will get the local digital channels without needing a box. If you want any more digital.HD channels, you will need a box or a cablecard.
Dave is right. The cable companies relentlessly hide out the fact that network HD is available via basic cable if your TV has a QAM tuner. Although the cable companies are required by law to do so, this doesn't mean that they have to let you know where they have mapped those channels for QAM. They don't. Thus you are on your own trying to find them. As Dave noted, the best bet is to use your TV to scan for them.

Looks like Cox in Topeka Kansas added a few more HD channels.

AMC HD
Cartoon Network HD
Speed HD
FX HD
Fox News HD

Plus Golf HD and Versus HD were split earlier in the month.

I count a total of 48 HD channels including premiums and locals.

Cox has added SPEED HD in Orange County, CA on Channel 730. I didn't see FX HD nor FOX NEWS HD.

Omaha just added AMCHHD and will get ComedyHD in January. Still no FX,Fox News,Cartoon Network HD,Speed HD

Omaha just added AMCHHD and will get ComedyHD in January. Still no FX,Fox News,Cartoon Network HD,Speed HD

I wish Cox Omaha would add the FX-hd,Fox News-hd,Cartoon Network HD,Speed-hd weatherchannel hd ASAP!!!!!!

Looks like Cox in Topeka Kansas added a few more HD channels.

AMC HD
Cartoon Network HD
Speed HD
FX HD
Fox News HD

Plus Golf HD and Versus HD were split earlier in the month.

I count a total of 48 HD channels including premiums and locals.

Cox in Western Arkansas added those same channels on Dec 31.

Cox in Western Arkansas added those same channels on Dec 31.

because Kansas and Arkansas are served out of the same area. Go to the Kansas website and it says Arkansas the Arkansas link says the same thing.

I'm in Tulsa, OK and have had Cox now for 6 months. In my last home, I had DirecTV for about 6 years since I used to work for them.

I would still like to have DTV but my new apartment has no porch/windows/etc. that face South; they all face North. :(

But anyway, I have always been a little unhappy with the HD quality on Cox. On DTV, the HD channels look a lot sharper and more crisp than any of them do on Cox. I have researched this awhile ago and it's a bandwidth issue. DTV/Dish have bandwidth issues too but I had read that to increase bandwidth for HD stations for cable companies is much more of a nightmare.

Thankfully, I do not see any decrease in quality of any HD stations when we get new ones from Cox. I have heard of horrible quality issues from adding new HD stations with Comcast before. In the last 6 months, Cox has added dozens of new HD stations which makes me really happy. But the bottom line is still that the HD stations via satellite look a lot better.

Now, before you reply let me set a few things straight. I am a home theater junkie and have been an a/v enthusiast for over 15 years now since I was 12. This has absolutely nothing to do with my setup. Blu-ray/HD DVD looks f'ing awesome on my HT as it should since it's the best HD source material out there. It has always looked better than broadcast HD so that's nothing new.

All this leads to some questions/concerns I have about my Cox HD service. Is Cox having to decrease the bandwidth for their hd channels when they keep adding more as they have been? Will Cox or any cable tv's hd channels ever look as good as satellite? Is there any info on a new dvr unit being used any time soon in Cox markets (this Motorola 160gb latest model dvr is garbage imo-- slow response times, FS menus even when set to WS, etc.)?

I feel I already know the answers to these questions but I just want to make sure.

Thanks in advance.

Just to answer a few of your questions: One way satellite has lowered their bandwidth is by using the mpeg 4 codec. This enables them to use half the bandwidth for each channel than using the mpeg 2 codec that the cable companies use. Cox and all other cable companies will switch over to Mpeg4 over time, but there are hurdles. One of which is that all current boxes in subscribers home are not compatible and neither are television sets, meaning cable companies will have to simulcast mpeg2 and mpeg 4 until everyone has caught up with mpeg4.
Another thing that cable companies have up their sleeve is switched digital video technology. Currently a cable box is being sent every single channel all the time regardless if the box is tuned to it or not. With switched digital video only the channels being tuned in will use up bandwidth. This will save considerable bandwidth, but cable companies have to be cautious with launching SDV since analog and one way digital devices (older cable cards) are not compatible. There are special tuners available to make cable card devices compatible and in most cases cable companies have to give these out for free or risk being sued.
Another way to free up bandwidth is to drop analog signal. Each analog channel eats up enough bandwidth for roughly 5+ HD channels (10+ if mpeg4) and 20 SD channels (40 if mpeg4). Being that most cable companies have about 70 analog channels that could clear up room for hundreds of HD channels, and that’s before SDV is in the mix. The reason this hasn’t been done yet is most TVs in homes today are designed for analog. According to the FCC cable companies have to support analog customers until 2012 and cable companies must provide free digital to analog converters to analog customers when they launch SDV (which can be expensive).
Cable companies could easily update their systems tomorrow to have the bandwidth to support more HD channels and higher quality HD channels than satellite. The thing that’s holding them back is the consumer electronics that are in homes today and the slow adoption of new technology from the American public and broadcasters. Cable companies have the burden of making their services compatible for everyone. Satellite companies have the luxury of forcing their users to carry proprietary equipment. I think that CableLabs technologies like Tru2Way will create standards for consumer electronics companies to follow that should relieve the burden for the cable companies and speed up adoption by the public and broadcasters however it will still take time.
The main thing cable companies have over satellite is high speed internet, and they know it. After DOCSIS 3.0 is widely available and the cable companies have cellular and wireless broadband I don’t see much future for satellite. Satellite needs broadband for their so called On Demand so no matter what the cable companies win. The biggest threat to the cable companies isn't the satellite companies, but rather the telcos like AT&T and Verizon with their U-Verse and FiOS service, respectively. Oh, and DirecTV will lose NFL exclusivity in 2010 which is what I’m excited about. Sorry for the long response.

I don't think tv needs to be capable of mpeg4.

Another thing that cable companies have up their sleeve is switched digital video technology. Currently a cable box is being sent every single channel all the time regardless if the box is tuned to it or not. With switched digital video only the channels being tuned in will use up bandwidth. This will save considerable bandwidth, but cable companies have to be cautious with launching SDV since analog and one way digital devices (older cable cards) are not compatible. There are special tuners available to make cable card devices compatible and in most cases cable companies have to give these out for free or risk being sued.
Those special tuners only work with devices that are able to communicate with them over USB, which is pretty much the 2 Tivo boxes. I haven't seen anything about plans to make them work with TV-based CableCards, nor PC-based CableCards, though those would hopefully be a trivial fix.
Another way to free up bandwidth is to drop analog signal. Each analog channel eats up enough bandwidth for roughly 5+ HD channels (10+ if mpeg4) and 20 SD channels (40 if mpeg4). Being that most cable companies have about 70 analog channels that could clear up room for hundreds of HD channels, and that’s before SDV is in the mix. The reason this hasn’t been done yet is most TVs in homes today are designed for analog. According to the FCC cable companies have to support analog customers until 2012 and cable companies must provide free digital to analog converters to analog customers when they launch SDV (which can be expensive).
5 HD per channel? They look bad enough at 3/channel. MPEG2 simply can't go any further without being completely unwatchable. MPEG4 will get them 4-6 depending on the efficiency of the encoder and where the balance of quantity vs. quality happens to be at the particular time it's implemented. Same with SD, 12-13 in MPEG2 per channel is the norm; 20 in MPEG2/40 in MPEG4 would be YouTube quality or worse.

The FCC requirement is that cable providers who choose to carry any analog channels must carry all the locals through at least 2012. They're free to completely drop all analog channels at any time, and some have already done this. Most won't since it removes the biggest advantage cable has over satellite/telco at this point, not needing a box on additional TVs.

I don't think tv needs to be capable of mpeg4.
He might mean TVs with Cablecards.

I have Cox in Tulsa & am renting the Motorola DCT6412 III from Cox as a DVR but am thinking about buying a TiVO HD due to its ability to stream Netflix, its generally positive reviews, and their current deal for 3 free months of TiVO with the purchase of a box. Anyone have any experience with a TiVO HD in Tulsa or switching from Cox's DVR to a TiVO? Any info is appreciated.

I have Cox in Tulsa & am renting the Motorola DCT6412 III from Cox as a DVR but am thinking about buying a TiVO HD due to its ability to stream Netflix, its generally positive reviews, and their current deal for 3 free months of TiVO with the purchase of a box. Anyone have any experience with a TiVO HD in Tulsa or switching from Cox's DVR to a TiVO? Any info is appreciated.

I would wait until TiVo has a Tru2Way TIVO so you can get on demand. Hopefully they'll show one at CES this week.

I don't think tv needs to be capable of mpeg4.

The TV's would need to be capable of Mpeg-4 if cable companies wanted to switch to mpeg-4 only service to free up bandwidth without needing to simulcast channels. Not only would tv's need to be able to do this, but people would need to buy them.

Those special tuners only work with devices that are able to communicate with them over USB, which is pretty much the 2 Tivo boxes. I haven't seen anything about plans to make them work with TV-based CableCards, nor PC-based CableCards, though those would hopefully be a trivial fix.

5 HD per channel? They look bad enough at 3/channel. MPEG2 simply can't go any further without being completely unwatchable. MPEG4 will get them 4-6 depending on the efficiency of the encoder and where the balance of quantity vs. quality happens to be at the particular time it's implemented. Same with SD, 12-13 in MPEG2 per channel is the norm; 20 in MPEG2/40 in MPEG4 would be YouTube quality or worse.

The FCC requirement is that cable providers who choose to carry any analog channels must carry all the locals through at least 2012. They're free to completely drop all analog channels at any time, and some have already done this. Most won't since it removes the biggest advantage cable has over satellite/telco at this point, not needing a box on additional TVs.

I'm not going to argue with you point by point, but I will say that nothing you've stated went against my main point.

He might mean TVs with Cablecards.

I meant all TV's. I'm talking about if cable companies wanted to switch to all digital, all mpeg4 service then we would need tv's you can buy in the store that can decode mpeg 4 without any additional equipment.

I have Cox in Tulsa & am renting the Motorola DCT6412 III from Cox as a DVR but am thinking about buying a TiVO HD due to its ability to stream Netflix, its generally positive reviews, and their current deal for 3 free months of TiVO with the purchase of a box. Anyone have any experience with a TiVO HD in Tulsa or switching from Cox's DVR to a TiVO? Any info is appreciated.

I would wait until TiVo has a Tru2Way TIVO so you can get on demand. Hopefully they'll show one at CES this week.
I have had TiVos since 2000, currently a Series3, which I have had for over a year. The later model TiVo HD is similar. The biggest upside to any Tivo is its marvelous software and user interface. It is in a class by itself. The biggest downside is that the current TiVos, the S3 and HD, are CableCARD equipped, thus they can't tune to either On Demand or SDV channels. A Tru2Way enabled TiVo would, indeed, solve the problem but I have seen nothing definitive to indicate that it's going to happen very soon. Still, CES is nearly here and hope springs eternal. :)

I meant all TV's. I'm talking about if cable companies wanted to switch to all digital, all mpeg4 service then we would need tv's you can buy in the store that can decode mpeg 4 without any additional equipment.
Well, I'm sorry then, but you are not correct. If and when cable goes all digital, and some already have, whether mpeg2 or mpeg4, all that is needed is a cable box, just like with satellite. The TV doesn't do the decoding, the boxes do. The only reason you can connect a cable today to a cable-ready TV and get some channels is because they are analog. If you want the digital channels, you need a box or cablecard. I don't know of any TVs that are designed, or being designed, to directly decode mpeg4 from cable or sat.

A Tru2Way enabled TiVo would, indeed, solve the problem but I have seen nothing definitive to indicate that it's going to happen very soon. Still, CES is nearly here and hope springs eternal. :)
Just a nit, but I don't know that simply being tru2way would do it. Just like the current crop of Tivo HD's, a tru2way model would still need to include the hardware needed to send the SDV/VOD request, etc. Presummably, they would include that this time around in any new model.

The other nit is that are you assuming your Tivo's will stop working when tru2way is implemented later this year? Surely current Tivo's will continue to work by simply upgrading the Cablecard software, no? Tivo's use their own software, so they should not care what the cableco uses. It's only 3rd-party boxes that want to work with cable software that need to be tru2way compatible. In that vein, I believe the Tivo port for the SA boxes will be tru2ay and that is what is holding up that deployment.

Just a nit, but I don't know that simply being tru2way would do it. Just like the current crop of Tivo HD's, a tru2way model would still need to include the hardware needed to send the SDV/VOD request, etc. Presummably, they would include that this time around in any new model.

The other nit is that are you assuming your Tivo's will stop working when tru2way is implemented later this year? Surely current Tivo's will continue to work by simply upgrading the Cablecard software, no? Tivo's use their own software, so they should not care what the cableco uses. It's only 3rd-party boxes that want to work with cable software that need to be tru2way compatible. In that vein, I believe the Tivo port for the SA boxes will be tru2ay and that is what is holding up that deployment.
The point of tru2way is that the devices are capable of two-way communication and won't need additional hardware (outside of a CableCard of course).

The point of tru2way is that the devices are capable of two-way communication and won't need additional hardware (outside of a CableCard of course).
Sorry (gwsat), I never heard that requirement mentioned, thanks for the info.

Sure wish you were still in Phoenix. Still nothing on the unencrypted QAM stuff, though it does seems limited to only a couple of TV's, Vizio being one of only 2 brands I've seen mentioned. My contact has not responded to any of my emails, so I don't know what's going on.

Omaha just added AMCHHD and will get ComedyHD in January. Still no FX,Fox News,Cartoon Network HD,Speed HD

I wouldnt be 100% on Comedy HD as they have been delayed at least twice now. I know they were supposed to launch in Dec, but were dealyed to "early 09".

In New England we have had the new channles since ~the middle of Dec, I have to say that I was excited about getting FX HD, but sadly most of the movies they show (at least the ones I have caught) have been SD :(...We can only hope that in the future they will have more HD programming available, especially since they show a number of movies where the HD version is available.

AMCHD seems to be the most consistancy as far as HD movies go and it has a very nice selection :).

I still ahve my fingers crossed for the HDNets and HDPPV (I would like to see boxing in HD for once live instead of a week later).

Aslo, for those looking at TIVO you may want to wait, COx is still working on a TIVO solution (still ongoing testing as far as I know), this may include tru2way service since Cox will be offering the boxes as well, time will only tell.

I wouldnt be 100% on Comedy HD as they have been delayed at least twice now. I know they were supposed to launch in Dec, but were dealyed to "early 09".

In New England we have had the new channles since ~the middle of Dec, I have to say that I was excited about getting FX HD, but sadly most of the movies they show (at least the ones I have caught) have been SD :(...We can only hope that in the future they will have more HD programming available, especially since they show a number of movies where the HD version is available.

AMCHD seems to be the most consistancy as far as HD movies go and it has a very nice selection :).

I still ahve my fingers crossed for the HDNets and HDPPV (I would like to see boxing in HD for once live instead of a week later).

Aslo, for those looking at TIVO you may want to wait, COx is still working on a TIVO solution (still ongoing testing as far as I know), this may include tru2way service since Cox will be offering the boxes as well, time will only tell.



when was you area promised ComedyHD It was annouced as launching in November, but if what you say is true they had no national contract.

when was you area promised ComedyHD It was annouced as launching in November, but if what you say is true they had no national contract.

Nov, Dec, now "early 09". Seems the channel is having issues actually launching (not on Cox's side). At least that is from reports from a un confirmed, but reliable Cox source in my local city forum.

Any word if Baton Rouge / Greater Louisiana is getting Fox News HD, ESPN News HD, and Comedy HD any time soon?

Any news on MLB Network HD in Cox areas? I hope it launches before opening day.

I am hoping it starts sooner, in time for the World Baseball Classic, but I have little faith that it will.

Do we know what Cox's plans are for 2009 on things outside of HD? Do they plan on improving their technology to compete more with UVerse & satellite?

I'd like to see some type of feature similar to UVerse's Total Home DVR, or at least make it cheaper to get DVR in other rooms. Also, I'd like to be able to schedule things to record on my DVR via the internet or my phone. This is something that I believe most competitors have that Cox does not.

Any ideas?

Do we know what Cox's plans are for 2009 on things outside of HD? Do they plan on improving their technology to compete more with UVerse & satellite?

I'd like to see some type of feature similar to UVerse's Total Home DVR, or at least make it cheaper to get DVR in other rooms. Also, I'd like to be able to schedule things to record on my DVR via the internet or my phone. This is something that I believe most competitors have that Cox does not.

Any ideas?

who has that feature? no cable company.

who has that feature? no cable company.

DirecTV & UVerse as far as I know.

Do we know what Cox's plans are for 2009 on things outside of HD? Do they plan on improving their technology to compete more with UVerse & satellite?

Also, I'd like to be able to schedule things to record on my DVR via the internet or my phone.

Any ideas?

Cox has plans to offer one of the the services you speak of, but you will have to sign up for their cell phone service: Cable operator Cox to launch cellphone service (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2008-10-26-cox-communications-wireless-cellphone_N.htm?csp=34)

DirecTV & UVerse as far as I know.

I would like to schedule dvr over internet. Cox was looking at a updated cox.net page that would do that, but haven't heard anymore.

I realize that it is a kluge, but you can do it today if you have a Slingbox.

They are also supposed to launch to IPG's/Tru2way.

Any news on MLB Network HD in Cox areas? I hope it launches before opening day.

most markets got MLB on dec 31 SD, Not sure when HD is ready for all markets

Do we know what Cox's plans are for 2009 on things outside of HD? Do they plan on improving their technology to compete more with UVerse & satellite?

I'd like to see some type of feature similar to UVerse's Total Home DVR, or at least make it cheaper to get DVR in other rooms. Also, I'd like to be able to schedule things to record on my DVR via the internet or my phone. This is something that I believe most competitors have that Cox does not.

Any ideas?

I know FiOS and DirecTV have that feature where you can program your DVR from online...
with D* you can use most mobile phones
with FiOS you need select VZW phones to use the mobile feature... (search FiOS in "get it now" on your vzw handset)

FiOS has HOME MEDIA DVR and D* is beta testing "mulit room viewing"

i had heard that Cox Comm was trying to do something similiar to Comcast to where your programs recorded on a DVR were stored on a server and you would be able to access them anywhere via your other STB or via your Cox Comm mobile device... but i'm not sure where i heard that info..

sorry i dont know much about At&t..

most markets got MLB on dec 31 SD, Not sure when HD is ready for all markets

Santa Barbara has MLB HD.

cox sent e mail about Comedy HD ::We had a technical delay in launching Comedy Central HD on 12/31/08 and it is now launching on 1/29/09

I swapped out a box today and was working over the phone with a chatty rep.

He told me he couldn't tell me much, but that Cox will be offering a couple of things later this year some of you may be interested in.

1. They are looking to enable adding an external drive to the DVR's. He made it sound like all current models of HD DVR's.

2. They are working on a whole house DVR solution. From what he described, it sounds like it would be based on the DCX line of Moto boxes. He just said an all black Motorola box.

He said to be patient, that a lot of things are in the works. I don't expect anything for months, but we'll see.

Rod

1. They are looking to enable adding an external drive to the DVR's. He made it sound like all current models of HD DVR's.

This has always been enabled on the SA boxes. I have a 500GB drive added to mine for an extra ~50 hours of recording.

cox sent e mail about Comedy HD ::We had a technical delay in launching Comedy Central HD on 12/31/08 and it is now launching on 1/29/09

Its already been added in New England (has been for a week or two) so the other markets shouldnt be far behind. Looks like ComedyHD finally got the technical difficulties ironed out.

This has always been enabled on the SA boxes. I have a 500GB drive added to mine for an extra ~50 hours of recording.

I beleive this has more to do with the Motorolla boxes (as it was specifically stated later in that post). The Moto boxes do nto have this feature currently for Cox.

I beleive this has more to do with the Motorolla boxes (as it was specifically stated later in that post). The Moto boxes do nto have this feature currently for Cox.
Except that when talking about adding hard drives the poster stated it would be for ALL DVR's. I simply stated that users of SA boxes already have that ability. The "later in the post" regarding Moto boxes was in reference to whole house DVR's, not hard drives.

Omaha is doing 10 SD or 3 HD in the space of a analog channel. Is that what other cox locations are doing?

Omaha is doing 10 SD or 3 HD in the space of a analog channel. Is that what other cox locations are doing?
Pretty much, at least until all the upgrades are complete. Cox here seems to do a little better than some in choosing which channels to team up. A lot of channels don't pass a full bitrate, so there is some wiggle room to minimize the impact on PQ.

I beleive this has more to do with the Motorolla boxes (as it was specifically stated later in that post). The Moto boxes do nto have this feature currently for Cox.

Would love this. I'd have switched to TiVo already for the larger hard drive capacity if I weren't so worried that the cable card experience would be a nightmare. My main complaint with the Moto box is the incredibly limited space.

Speaking of TiVo, one of the advantages of the Motorola over the SA DVRs is that, so far, Motorola's are the only platform upon which TiVo has rolled out a version of its software for cable company owned boxes. This solution has been available for Comcast customers in New England for some time but so far as I know Cox has not yet deployed TiVo for its boxes anywhere, at least not in final release form.

Speaking of TiVo, one of the advantages of the Motorola over the SA DVRs is that, so far, Motorola's are the only platform upon which TiVo has rolled out a version of its software for cable company owned boxes. This solution has been available for Comcast customers in New England for some time but so far as I know Cox has not yet deployed TiVo for its boxes anywhere, at least not in final release form.

The last I heard, COx was still testing TIVO in New England, but I havent heard anything beyond that.

Comedy Central HD in working :rolleyes:

Well, I'm sorry then, but you are not correct. If and when cable goes all digital, and some already have, whether mpeg2 or mpeg4, all that is needed is a cable box, just like with satellite. The TV doesn't do the decoding, the boxes do. The only reason you can connect a cable today to a cable-ready TV and get some channels is because they are analog. If you want the digital channels, you need a box or cablecard. I don't know of any TVs that are designed, or being designed, to directly decode mpeg4 from cable or sat.

I'm talking about tv's without a box. All you did was back up my point. Those tv's dont exist. Right now the only way for companies to go all digital is to hand out free boxes or be sued. The cable card can descramble a signals encryption, but the TV will have to decode the codec. TV's will need to be mpeg4 compatible before you'll see cable companies switch to mpeg4 without the need to simulcast mpeg4 and mpeg2. There is hope though since MPEG4 was recently added to the ATSC standard.

Just a nit, but I don't know that simply being tru2way would do it. Just like the current crop of Tivo HD's, a tru2way model would still need to include the hardware needed to send the SDV/VOD request, etc. Presummably, they would include that this time around in any new model.

The other nit is that are you assuming your Tivo's will stop working when tru2way is implemented later this year? Surely current Tivo's will continue to work by simply upgrading the Cablecard software, no? Tivo's use their own software, so they should not care what the cableco uses. It's only 3rd-party boxes that want to work with cable software that need to be tru2way compatible. In that vein, I believe the Tivo port for the SA boxes will be tru2ay and that is what is holding up that deployment.

If a TiVo is Tru2Way compatible then it will have everything it needs for SDV/VOD as long as it has a multistream cablecard. TiVos willstop working in SDV cable systems unless they are attached to the new tuners designed to plug into the TiVos USB port regardless of a cable card update. The TiVo itself is not 2-way so it doesnt matter if the cablecard is. As for your last sentence I don't know what you're referring to.

Do we know what Cox's plans are for 2009 on things outside of HD? Do they plan on improving their technology to compete more with UVerse & satellite?

I'd like to see some type of feature similar to UVerse's Total Home DVR, or at least make it cheaper to get DVR in other rooms. Also, I'd like to be able to schedule things to record on my DVR via the internet or my phone. This is something that I believe most competitors have that Cox does not.

Any ideas?

This will be coming in 2009 in some markets and 2010 in others, as soon as Cox launches their own wireless service. if you can't wait for this you might want to look into a Slingbox and the phones that are compatible with it. It will allow you to control your DVR for scheduling recordings and even playback on your phone. Echostar owns slingbox and will be making cable boxes with this feature as well. Echostar also owns DishNetwork and they will be the first to have it built in a DVR, but Echostar is making cable boxes as well. Weird huh? A satellite company making cable boxes.

I swapped out a box today and was working over the phone with a chatty rep.

He told me he couldn't tell me much, but that Cox will be offering a couple of things later this year some of you may be interested in.

1. They are looking to enable adding an external drive to the DVR's. He made it sound like all current models of HD DVR's.

2. They are working on a whole house DVR solution. From what he described, it sounds like it would be based on the DCX line of Moto boxes. He just said an all black Motorola box.

He said to be patient, that a lot of things are in the works. I don't expect anything for months, but we'll see.

Rod


1.) This is already available in all of our Scientific Atlanta markets. Not sure about Motorola though.

2.) Not sure about Motorola but Cisco (aka Scientific Atlanta) has their new whole home DVR at CES. The new 8642HDC and 8652HDC DVR's are whole home HD DVR's and also add Tru2Way, mpeg4, faster processors, and 1Ghz tuning to name a few enhancements. Motorola also has boxes in the works but that is not my area of expertise. Cox may or may not decide to add this. There have been other boxes capable of this in the past but cable companies have avoided it. My giess is because the head aches it would cause customers and customer service reps. To few people are educated enough on setting up, using, and troubleshooting this kind of technology. Hopefully it can be made simple enough so that the cable companies will launch it especially given the success of AT&T's U-Verse.

Speaking of TiVo, one of the advantages of the Motorola over the SA DVRs is that, so far, Motorola's are the only platform upon which TiVo has rolled out a version of its software for cable company owned boxes. This solution has been available for Comcast customers in New England for some time but so far as I know Cox has not yet deployed TiVo for its boxes anywhere, at least not in final release form.

This is true and Cox has signed on for TiVo software on our Motorola and Scientific Atlanta boxes. Not sure whats taking so long though. Perhaps we're waiting for the newer generation of boxes with mpeg4 and Tru2Way, or perhaps we want the same online features TiVos have (Netflix, YouTube, etc.). Either way I'm sure the longer we wait the more features will be added compared to Comcast new England.

Echostar also owns DishNetwork and they will be the first to have it built in a DVR, but Echostar is making cable boxes as well. Weird huh? A satellite company making cable boxes.
Actually since January 1, 2008 Echostar and Dish Network are two separate companies.

1.) This is already available in all of our Scientific Atlanta markets. Not sure about Motorola though.

2.) Not sure about Motorola but Cisco (aka Scientific Atlanta) has their new whole home DVR at CES. The new 8642HDC and 8652HDC DVR's are whole home HD DVR's and also add Tru2Way, mpeg4, faster processors, and 1Ghz tuning to name a few enhancements. Motorola also has boxes in the works but that is not my area of expertise. Cox may or may not decide to add this. There have been other boxes capable of this in the past but cable companies have avoided it. My giess is because the head aches it would cause customers and customer service reps. To few people are educated enough on setting up, using, and troubleshooting this kind of technology. Hopefully it can be made simple enough so that the cable companies will launch it especially given the success of AT&T's U-Verse.

neither of those work in Motorola cox areas yet.

This is true and Cox has signed on for TiVo software on our Motorola and Scientific Atlanta boxes.

I have the feeling that this is vaporware, kind of like the 100 HD channels we were promised back in March of 2008 to have in Phoenix by the end of 2008.

This is true and Cox has signed on for TiVo software on our Motorola and Scientific Atlanta boxes. Not sure whats taking so long though. Perhaps we're waiting for the newer generation of boxes with mpeg4 and Tru2Way, or perhaps we want the same online features TiVos have (Netflix, YouTube, etc.). Either way I'm sure the longer we wait the more features will be added compared to Comcast new England.

what makes you think that the cox version will have all the bells and whistles from the start?

This will be coming in 2009 in some markets and 2010 in others, as soon as Cox launches their own wireless service. if you can't wait for this you might want to look into a Slingbox and the phones that are compatible with it. It will allow you to control your DVR for scheduling recordings and even playback on your phone. Echostar owns slingbox and will be making cable boxes with this feature as well. Echostar also owns DishNetwork and they will be the first to have it built in a DVR, but Echostar is making cable boxes as well. Weird huh? A satellite company making cable boxes.

are you sure it's cable boxes and not the digital to analog boxes?

This is true and Cox has signed on for TiVo software on our Motorola and Scientific Atlanta boxes. Not sure whats taking so long though. Perhaps we're waiting for the newer generation of boxes with mpeg4 and Tru2Way, or perhaps we want the same online features TiVos have (Netflix, YouTube, etc.). Either way I'm sure the longer we wait the more features will be added compared to Comcast new England.

I thought they had contracted NDS to write new software, two months after the announcement of Tivo testing in New England.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/80422-Cox_Turns_To_NDS_For_Guidance.php

I'm talking about tv's without a box. All you did was back up my point. Those tv's dont exist. Right now the only way for companies to go all digital is to hand out free boxes or be sued. The cable card can descramble a signals encryption, but the TV will have to decode the codec. TV's will need to be mpeg4 compatible before you'll see cable companies switch to mpeg4 without the need to simulcast mpeg4 and mpeg2. There is hope though since MPEG4 was recently added to the ATSC standard.
I still think you are incorrect, but it really doesn't matter, I don't think Cox is going all-digital any time soon.

There is a difference though between going all-digital and switching to mpeg4, and I never know which one you are talking about. AFAIK, some cableco's in some markets have already gone all-digital without passing out free boxes to those with cablecards. Mpeg4 might require a box, but that has nothing to do with going all-digital. It doesn't take a TV upgrade for either.

Your initial statement was that cable cannot go all-digital or convert to mpeg4 without TVs being redesigned and that is simply not true. They can go all-digital and use mpeg4 any time they want as long as they have boxes available for everyone. And, AFAIK, there is nothing that says they can't require a box once they go all-digital, as some have already done and FIOS and satellite do. Going all-digital is a loophole that gets them off the legacy support fence. Many will probably not do it because they might lose too many of those legacy customers, but at some point that excuse diminishes.

I thought they had contracted NDS to write new software, two months after the announcement of Tivo testing in New England.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/80422-Cox_Turns_To_NDS_For_Guidance.php

NDS wil be for all boxes tivo will be an added fee for dvr customers who want it when it launches.

Response to an email to cox asking about expanded storage:

"As for the limited storage capacity with the Motorola DVR, there is a SATA port for connecting an external hard drive for additional storage. It is not active at this time. I've brought this up with our Product Support department, and it is expected to be activated in the near future, though I don't have a set date to give you yet. When it is activated, all of our customers will be notified."

So, "the near future," whenever that is...

Actually since January 1, 2008 Echostar and Dish Network are two separate companies.

But Echostar still owns Dish Network, so theyre not seperate, Dish Network is a subsidiary.

what makes you think that the cox version will have all the bells and whistles from the start?

I'm not 100% on it, I just think positive I guess. I can't see it taking this long only to have it be a simple TIVO guide.

are you sure it's cable boxes and not the digital to analog boxes?

Yes, I spoke with an EchoStar representative at CES.

I thought they had contracted NDS to write new software, two months after the announcement of Tivo testing in New England.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/80422-Cox_Turns_To_NDS_For_Guidance.php

That's seperate. The NDS guide should replace our Gemstar Guide (aka TV Guide, aka Macrovision). The TIVO guide is a seperate guide that users sign up for and pay extra for but the NDS guide will replace our current guide on all boxes.

I still think you are incorrect, but it really doesn't matter, I don't think Cox is going all-digital any time soon.

There is a difference though between going all-digital and switching to mpeg4, and I never know which one you are talking about. AFAIK, some cableco's in some markets have already gone all-digital without passing out free boxes to those with cablecards. Mpeg4 might require a box, but that has nothing to do with going all-digital. It doesn't take a TV upgrade for either.

Your initial statement was that cable cannot go all-digital or convert to mpeg4 without TVs being redesigned and that is simply not true. They can go all-digital and use mpeg4 any time they want as long as they have boxes available for everyone. And, AFAIK, there is nothing that says they can't require a box once they go all-digital, as some have already done and FIOS and satellite do. Going all-digital is a loophole that gets them off the legacy support fence. Many will probably not do it because they might lose too many of those legacy customers, but at some point that excuse diminishes.


You're taking what I've said out of context and have misunderstood what I was trying to say. Perhaps I could've worded it better.
FIOS and satellite aren't cable companies and have different rules to follow. Both services require boxes to work.
We do have to provide free boxes for SDV, only small cable markets don't, but most of them do anyway. Time warbner switched to SDV and all digital, didn't provide boxes and got sued.
Going all digital is not a loophole and is against FCC regulations for large cable markets unless they give out free boxes, adequete warning, and/or provide local OTA channels for analog customers. The FCC also investigates cable companies that switch analog channels to their digital packages saying they're forcing customer to upgrade and pay more for the same channels and fine them.
Cable companies have a lot more rules to follow then FiOS, satellite, or U-Verse. AT&T has more lobbyists than all the cable companies combined and they make sure the laws that are passed favor them and hurt us.

You're taking what I've said out of context and have misunderstood what I was trying to say. Perhaps I could have wored it better but I wont carry on an argument with you.
FIOS and satellite aren't cable companies, we have different rules to follow then they do and both services require boxes to work.
We do have to provide free boxes for SDV, only small cable markets don't, but most of them do anyway. Going all digital is not a loophole and is against FCC regulations for large cable markets unless they give out free boxes, adequete warning, and/or provide local OTA channels for analog customers. The FCC also investigates cable companies that add fromer analog channels to their digital packages saying we're forcing customer to upgrade and pay mode for the same channels and they fine us.
It's your perogative not to argue, but I'm not trying to argue in the first place. I didn't say anything that disagreed with anything you just said. Cable can go all-digital any time they want to by simply passing out boxes, the same with mpeg4. It does not take "new" TVs, period. I may have misunderstood what you were "trying" to say, but nothing has been taken out of context, your posts are there to be read by all. If you want to say that new TVs are needed to work with SDV and mpeg4 without a box, that's fine, I agree, but new TVs are not needed for a cableco to go all-digital as some have already done, and I'm not talking about FIOS, etc.

That's seperate. The NDS guide should replace our Gemstar Guide (aka TV Guide, aka Macrovision). The TIVO guide is a seperate guide that users sign up for and pay extra for but the NDS guide will replace our current guide on all boxes.

The NDS guide is only for the HD HD/DVR not regular which if if what I read holds true it will all change to Passport(SA)/PassportDCT(MOTOROLA)

cox sent e mail about Comedy HD ::We had a technical delay in launching Comedy Central HD on 12/31/08 and it is now launching on 1/29/09

Is this for all markets?

Is this for all markets?
not even close. its for one market.

Is this for all markets?

Omaha is supposed to get it on the 28th.

But Echostar still owns Dish Network, so theyre not seperate, Dish Network is a subsidiary.
Incorrect. Echostar changed its name to Dish Network. Then they created a spin off called EchoStar Holding Co that deals with hardware such as set top boxes. Both companies have the same chairman/CEO.

So if anyone is a subsidiary of anyone, Echostar is a subsidiary of Dish Network.

not even close. its for one market.

It's launching in Vegas on February 10th.

Incorrect. Echostar changed its name to Dish Network. Then they created a spin off called EchoStar Holding Co that deals with hardware such as set top boxes. Both companies have the same chairman/CEO.

So if anyone is a subsidiary of anyone, Echostar is a subsidiary of Dish Network.

You are correct. Sorry about that.

Is this for all markets?

What others have said is correct. Its only for 1 market. Comedy HD is already "live" in New England, I think the Technical Glitches might be contract issues as New England is not the only market to currently have COmedy HD.

Cox Adds 9 HD Channels In Virginia

The list includes the MLB Network.

By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (January 27, 2009) -- Cox Communications announced today that it's adding nine new High-Definition channels in the Northern Virginia area, bringing its total there to 61.

The new HD channels include The MLB Network, Fox Business, Bio, Cartoon Network, E!, Comedy Central, WE and IFC.

(Note: I know the article says 9, but lists only 8. Only posting what I know)

(Note: We are currently at 43 High Definition Channels in Phoenix)

Cox Adds 9 HD Channels In Virginia

The list includes the MLB Network.

By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (January 27, 2009) -- Cox Communications announced today that it's adding nine new High-Definition channels in the Northern Virginia area, bringing its total there to 61.

The new HD channels include The MLB Network, Fox Business, Bio, Cartoon Network, E!, Comedy Central, WE and IFC.

(Note: I know the article says 9, but lists only 8. Only posting what I know)

(Note: We are currently at 43 High Definition Channels in Phoenix)

Still no Weather Channel HD or do you already have it there?

Still no Weather Channel HD or do you already have it there?

We've had it since mid-December.

No Weather Channel HD in the Phoenix Market

No Weather Channel HD in the Phoenix Market

Omaha doesn't have it either.

Cox is due to add 6 channels to the Baton Rouge market on 2/2/09. This will give us 54.

Fox News Channel
Cartoon Network
Comedy Central
FX
E!
Speed Channel

Cox Plans More 1-GHz Upgrades In 2009

Operator to Date Has Converted 82,000 of 107,000 Miles of Plant to 1 GHz

By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 1/31/2009 4:30:00 AM MT

Cox Communications expects to upgrade an additional 12,000 miles of its hybrid fiber-coaxial network to 1 GHz this year, with the goal of reaching 80% of homes in its footprint with the higher-capacity technology by the end of 2010, according to chief technical officer Chris Bowick.

To date Cox has upgraded about 82,000 miles out of about 107,000 miles of plant across all its markets. After upgrading 12,000 more miles in 2009 and another 2,000 in 2010, the MSO will be at about 80% of homes passed at 1 GHz and the other 20% will be 860 MHz, Bowick said.

"As an industry we've always invested in bandwidth," Bowick said. Cox refers to its HFC architecture as the Extensible Optical Network (EON).

Bowick was interviewed by Multichannel News columnist Leslie Ellis. (Watch the video interview here: part one; part two; and part three.)

As part of the EON project, Cox has performed 2,100 node splits and the company expects to do another 1,600 node splits in the next couple of years. Bowick said the operator currently is down around 550 homes passed per node.

Ellis asked Bowick whether the cost of upgrading to 1 GHz was an order of magnitude less expensive than the upgrade from 550 to 750 MHz in years past, suggesting the number was around $40 per home passed to move to 1 GHz compared with $400 last time.

"We haven't quite gotten to the $40-per-home-passed range... but it's well below 100 bucks," Bowick said.

In addition to providing more room for HD, DOCSIS 3.0 and other services, EON will expand available bandwidth so Cox will be able to keep an analog tier of between 70 and 75 analog channels for competitive reasons, according to Bowick. "No other competitor in the industry can do that," he said.

Ultimately, Bowick said, "I don't see us going beyond 1 GHz," saying that the HFC architecture provides "beautiful capacity out to 2018."

http://www.multichannel.com/article/173433-Cox_Plans_More_1_GHz_Upgrades_In_2009.php

Great interview. Thank you Marcus.

^so there gonna keep ANALOG based services?? :confused::confused:

^so there gonna keep ANALOG based services?? :confused::confused:
They already planned to keep analog service until at least 2011. This has absolutely nothing to do with analog digital switchover that will happen sometime this year (maybe)

Cox in Western Arkansas added those same channels on Dec 31.
I am in Fayetteville and still waiting for these channels. May be I should call cox tomorrow. :mad:

Cox in Western Arkansas added those same channels on Dec 31.

because Kansas and Arkansas are served out of the same area. Go to the Kansas website and it says Arkansas the Arkansas link says the same thing.


Not necessarily. By Western AR, I take it as Fort Smith area. I live in NW AR and all we had added was just AMC HD in Dec.

Here are the channel line up for the two markets in AR:

http://www.cox.com/gocox/pdf/pdf_new/Fort%20Smith.pdf
http://www.cox.com/gocox/pdf/pdf_new/Fayetteville.pdf

They already planned to keep analog service until at least 2011. This has absolutely nothing to do with analog digital switchover that will happen sometime this year (maybe)

yea i was trying to make reference beyond 2011, keeping analog beyond then is :confused: to me but hey thats just my opinion.

yea i was trying to make reference beyond 2011, keeping analog beyond then is :confused: to me but hey thats just my opinion.
It's actually 2012, but what's another year? :)

Anyway, they will keep analog as long as their competitors do or as long as they have a subscriber base paying for it and making it cost effective. There are and will continue to be a substantial number of subs who want to connect their cable directly to their cable-ready TV. I have no need for a box in my bedroom and as long as the analog TV works in there, I have no reason to change. If they do away with analog though, it won't bother me to have to get an SD box.

With EON, they are supposed to have enough bandwidth to continue supporting analog (which will actually be the digital channels converted) and as much HD as there is. There is a school of thought that once cable requires a box for all TVs, there will be no reason for folks not to switch to sat. I buy that, but not to the degree some do.

o yea believe me i understand that there are some folks out there that do not want a box on every tv.

They look at me crazy when i try to explain to them that with Vz (Fios or D*) you need a box (or a DCT700 with fios) on each tv.
but in my opinion, its a advantage because you get what you pay for in every room; not just one room, but, all rooms have access to NFL NET etc...

but again thats just my opinion.

We got E! and Comedy Central here on the Gulf Coast but no Cartoon Network unfortunatly. E! and CC are pretty much useless for HD content from what I've seen so far. I did catch a newer (past season) episode of South Park that was in HD.

We got E! and Comedy Central here on the Gulf Coast but no Cartoon Network unfortunatly. E! and CC are pretty much useless for HD content from what I've seen so far. I did catch a newer (past season) episode of South Park that was in HD.

I know Clone wars is filmed in HD:)

COX in Topeka Kansas added Comedy Central HD, E! HD and MLB HD today.

Cox NWA added Comedy HD, PBS Scholar HD and PBS Kids HD today.

Still waiting for FX, Speed, CN and Fox News which is available in FortSmith :(

Cox NWA added Comedy HD, PBS Scholar HD and PBS Kids HD today.

Still waiting for FX, Speed, CN and Fox News which is available in FortSmith :(

Cox in Ft. Smith added MLB HD, E! HD East, PBS Scholar HD, PBS Kids HD and Comedy HD.

I wish they would add FSN HD.

Cox in Ft. Smith added MLB HD, E! HD East, PBS Scholar HD, PBS Kids HD and Comedy HD.

I wish they would add FSN HD.

FSNHD is a joke off their most of the time

About February 26th. (these will be available in the upgraded areas only)



FX HD on channel 716



Cartoon Network HD on channel 717



Speed Channel HD on channel 763



Fox News Channel HD on channel 764



E! HD on channel 741



About April 1 – MASN HD (> 150 Baltimore Orioles and Washington Nationals baseball games)– to all subscribers



Weather Channel HD & Disney HD – High on the list. TBD

COX

Thanks to the digital delay Omaha is not moving a PBS channel to dgtal until June now. When they do though we will get Iowa PBSHD and two more PBS digital channels.

Omaha needs to add more HD

MLBHD
FXHD
CartoonHD
DisneyHD
E HD

How many cox area's have the HD version of the MLB Network?

How many cox area's have the HD version of the MLB Network?According to Steve from Cox, MLB HD will launch Feb. 23rd here in the San Diego market.

Source (http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/3/7187.html?1234810393)

How many cox area's have the HD version of the MLB Network?

Most markets will have the MLB HD channel before the first game on April 5th. MLB HD will be showing Thursday games.

vegggas

Cox & Bandwidth – Part 1 straight from Cox
MCN's Leslie Ellis kicks off this Video Translation Please series centering on emerging technologies at Cox Communications. In Part 1, Chris Bowick, Cox's CTO, discusses the state of the company's bandwidth upgrades.
http://www.multichannel.com/video/TRANSLATION_PLEASE/990-Cox_Bandwidth_Part_1.php
Major points of interest are that the EON upgrades have been completed in 82000 miles out of 107000 miles of cable plant.
2100 major node splits are completed with 1600 more to be split. Current splits average to about 550 homes per node.
Cox wants to keep 70 to 75 analog channels for near future for customers who want to keep analog TV's or just do not want a STB and use basic service in all areas or all TV's.
Upgrades to Eon are 1GHz to 80% of the plant and 860Mhz to the other 20% (Nationwide)
Their stratagy through 2018 is to use multiple bandwidth straagies, including Docsis 3.0, SDV and other avenues of opportunity to provide lots of HD (mentions capacity for hundreds of HD channels and thousands of HD VOD channels through videos)

vegggas

Cox & Bandwidth – Part 2
Amplifier re-spacing, launch deployment timeframes, and Cox's Extensible Optical Network ("EON") plan highlight this Part 2 of Cox & Bandwidth, with CTO Chris Bowick
http://www.multichannel.com/video/TRANSLATION_PLEASE/991-Cox_Bandwidth_Part_2.php

vegggas

Cox & Bandwidth – Part 3
True or False: Upgrading to 1 GHz is a less expensive bandwidth proposition for an operator than reclaiming analog spectrum? Leslie Ellis puts this question and more to Cox CTO Chris Bowick, in this conclusion of "Cox & Bandwidth".
http://www.multichannel.com/video/TRANSLATION_PLEASE/992-Cox_Bandwidth_Part_3.php

vegggas

when will we get some more hd channels?

when will we get some more hd channels?

Once the contracts are signed......

On a more serious note, Cox is adding and continues to add HD channels in different markets. THe best place to find out info for your local area is in the thread dedicated to your Area, you will be able to get local info and most likely get a local Cox contact that will be able to give you more info.

I am not sure what channels you have\dont have but here are some recent and future HD addtitions for the New England Market:

"Recent"
Comedy HD
FX HD
Fox News HD
Golf HD
Spike HD
USA HD
E! HD
Cartoon HD
PBS LrnHD

THose have been added in the past few months.

Future:
NBA HD
Biography HD
Fox Business HD
MLB HD
PPV Events HD

The above are scheduled to be added 4/1/2009 for New England...Since we are in a FIOS market, we usually get the new channels before non FIOS markets, but not always. We have ~56 HD channels at last count, while still below FIOS in terms of channel count, both have channels the other is missing.

The only other channels I am looking for after the 4/1 add is the HD Net Pairing and maybe the multi-Premium pack for HD CHannels (HBO 2 HD, ect)

I am sure there are more HD channels coming, but I only have information for my personal area and from what I ahve seen posted on this and other forums.

it would be nice if cox threw us a bone and added MLBHD before the start of baseball, but I don't see that happening.

it would be nice if cox threw us a bone and added MLBHD before the start of baseball, but I don't see that happening.

WHile the outllok may be "murky" I could of sworn somewhere in this thread it was stated that Cox was trying to get it out by opening day in most of its markets. You may want to see if you local thread has anything on it.

I guess in New England it does help to have FIOS as competition ;) .

WHile the outllok may be "murky" I could of sworn somewhere in this thread it was stated that Cox was trying to get it out by opening day in most of its markets. You may want to see if you local thread has anything on it.

I guess in New England it does help to have FIOS as competition ;) .

Looks Like Omaha will miss the spring training on MLB Network if they are in HD of The Royals.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=kc&m=4&y=2009

I know Clone wars is filmed in HD:)

I'm pretty sure Transformers Animated and Batman Brave & the Bold are as well. We still don't have CN HD here. :(

Most markets will have the MLB HD channel before the first game on April 5th. MLB HD will be showing Thursday games.

vegggas

Omaha most likely willl not have it which stinks. Omaha is still trying to sign contracts what a joke.

On the technical side of things, look for the partnership between NDS and Cox to finally start rolling out this summer:

NDS, Cox Announce tru2way Deal
http://www.mediabiz.com/news/skyreport/?edit_id=11327

NDS will supply Cox Communications with a full suite of interactive applications for its tru2way set-top platform, the companies announced this morning. The applications -- which include email, news, sports, weather, games, TV caller ID, movie listings and other information services -- are set to roll out to existing and new Cox customers this summer along with a new Cox user interface, also being implemented by NDS.

According to Cox, the applications suite was designed to more closely complement the provider's new UI design and integrate its various service offerings -- including VOD, DVR and linear content -- into one, streamlined UI experience.

“Cox worked closely with the NDS design and development teams to ensure that the final product suite, while providing advanced services, remains user-friendly and fits seamlessly within the new UI framework,” said Steve Necessary, Cox's VP of video strategy and product development."

The tru2way announcement is the first major unveiling from the companies since they first announced their collaboration in early 2008.

On the technical side of things, look for the partnership between NDS and Cox to finally start rolling out this summer:

NDS, Cox Announce tru2way Deal
http://www.mediabiz.com/news/skyreport/?edit_id=11327

NDS will supply Cox Communications with a full suite of interactive applications for its tru2way set-top platform, the companies announced this morning. The applications -- which include email, news, sports, weather, games, TV caller ID, movie listings and other information services -- are set to roll out to existing and new Cox customers this summer along with a new Cox user interface, also being implemented by NDS.

According to Cox, the applications suite was designed to more closely complement the provider's new UI design and integrate its various service offerings -- including VOD, DVR and linear content -- into one, streamlined UI experience.

“Cox worked closely with the NDS design and development teams to ensure that the final product suite, while providing advanced services, remains user-friendly and fits seamlessly within the new UI framework,” said Steve Necessary, Cox's VP of video strategy and product development."

The tru2way announcement is the first major unveiling from the companies since they first announced their collaboration in early 2008.


most likely Omaha will not see it until 2012.

most likely Omaha will not see it until 2012.

I could be wrong, but I think/hope you'll be surprised. I'm betting my subscription that EON and the other upgrading they've been doing will finally culminate in something worthwhile. If not, I'll be watching DirecTV this fall. :)

I could be wrong, but I think/hope you'll be surprised. I'm betting my subscription that EON and the other upgrading they've been doing will finally culminate in something worthwhile. If not, I'll be watching DirecTV this fall. :)

I hope your right. My comment on 2012 was because it took awhile to launch the current ipg upgrades and they are not signing HD agreements as fast as other cox areas.:D

Here's a bit more info on the release of the new Cox IPG from MultiChannel News

Cox Gasses Up Next-Generation Guide

Operator Taps NDS to Port Tru2way Apps; IPG Set for August Launch
By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 3/23/2009 2:00:00 AM MT
Cox Communications, gearing up for a late-summer launch of its next-generation interactive program guide developed with NDS, is stirring a slew of entertainment and information applications into the mix.

The MSO last May announced the deal to outsource IPG development to NDS, which has been building a tru2way-based guide to Cox's specifications. In addition to a brand-new user interface designed from scratch, the IPG features integrated program information across Cox's linear channels, video-on-demand and digital video recorder content.

Now, on top of that, Cox will layer in a wide range of interactive apps with NDS's help, including: caller ID and e-mail on the TV, news, sports, weather, games, movie listings, a "mosaic" view of multiple channels, horoscopes, lottery results and customer-care services.

"They're one of the first MSOs that are taking steps to deploy interactive on a larger scale," said Jesper Knutsson, vice president and general manager of sales for NDS Americas.

Originally, Cox planned to have those ITV applications reworked by TVWorks, the operator's joint venture with Comcast. Instead, the operator turned to NDS to do the job, to make the integration with the IPG "more seamless," said Lisa Pickelsimer, Cox executive director of video product development.

The guide, which Cox expects to begin deploying in August, will replace the Aptiv Passport guide (now owned by Macrovision Solutions) in its Motorola markets and Cisco Systems' SARA guide in its Scientific Atlanta systems.

"Our guides today have very much an ad-hoc feel," Pickelsimer said, noting that the IPG, VOD client and interactive TV currently are three separate clients.

For now, Cox is still keeping the NDS-developed guide out of the public eye. The company has declined to show demos or release screen shots.

Pickelsimer provided a brief rundown of the highlights: The main guide view is not a grid; it's a three-panel screen with a list of channels on the left, programs on the selected channel in the middle; and a program description on the right. (A grid also is available for those who prefer it.)

In addition to integrated search, the guide provides a "browse related" feature that links to other content based on similar actors or themes. For example, if Titanic is on the VOD menu the guide may link to an upcoming History program on famous ships, Pickelsimer said. Tribune Media Services's entertainment-information products On TV and On Connectors are built into the new guide, enabling such linkages.

Individual users in a household can program their favorite channels and customize ITV apps, so, for instance, each family member can pull up his or her own horoscope. The IPG also will provide remote DVR programming via Web or mobile phone.

Initially Cox will deploy the guide on new set-tops running tru2way middleware. The MSO is not disclosing which set-top vendor or OpenCable Application Platform middleware it is using. In a second phase, the plan is to bring the IPG to the existing HD and HD DVR boxes through the pre-OCAP OnRamp middleware developed by TVWorks.

Pickelsimer said the guide will let Cox add features in future releases, such accessing Internet content on the TV and personal media stored on home PCs. "We made a concerted effort to design an information architecture that would incorporate new things we haven't anticipated," she said.

NDS, in addition to its work on Cox's guide, has supplied the operator with its IEX automated set-top box testing solution.

In preparation for the IPG launch, Cox has been upgrading its headends to support that OCAP/tru2way, including installing new servers.

Cox started the guide-overhaul initiative in 2005. Internally the operator refers to the project as SCIN (pronounced "skin"), which stands for "Simple Consistent Intuitive Navigation."

"The underlying thought was, users don't want to interact with a guide -- they just want to find content," Pickelsimer said.

Noted Knutsson: "The goal is to not notice the user interface. If you notice it too much you're not doing your job."

I hope your wright. My comment on 2012 was because it took awhile to launch the current ipg upgrades and they are not signing HD agreements as fast as other cox areas.:D

Oh, I quite understand where you are coming from. I don't see Cox-Phoenix signing any agreements either, but then I'm not really sure where to look. :)

Oh, I quite understand where you are coming from. I don't see Cox-Phoenix signing any agreements either, but then I'm not really sure where to look. :)

I guess I just don't understand if cox has a national contract with the channel why the need for each cox area to sign an agreement. I geuss I can see the need for the local stations and the local FSN, but why the national channels need a seperate contract for each cox area is stupid.

I guess I just don't understand if cox has a national contract with the channel why the need for each cox area to sign an agreement. I geuss I can see the need for the local stations and the local FSN, but why the national channels need a seperate contract for each cox area is stupid.
I agree, I don't understand how that whole process works, just as I don't understand why Orange County can have the HD Nets.

I guess I just don't understand if cox has a national contract with the channel why the need for each cox area to sign an agreement. I geuss I can see the need for the local stations and the local FSN, but why the national channels need a seperate contract for each cox area is stupid.

Its becasue each Cox Region is treated as a seperate entity. While there are a few companies that do national roll outs Cox usually does not due this (there are also a number of cable cos that work just like Cox including FIOS). This is due to many reasons including that every region is not fully capable of getting every update\feature. I do believe though that with the current upgrades going on it was said that Cox hopes to be able to do "national roll outs" of channels, but until updates are complete I dont see it happening. It may not make sense but it is what it is, just going to have to live with it or switch providers.

Its becasue each Cox Region is treated as a seperate entity. While there are a few companies that do national roll outs Cox usually does not due this (there are also a number of cable cos that work just like Cox including FIOS). This is due to many reasons including that every region is not fully capable of getting every update\feature. I do believe though that with the current upgrades going on it was said that Cox hopes to be able to do "national roll outs" of channels, but until updates are complete I dont see it happening. It may not make sense but it is what it is, just going to have to live with it or switch providers.

I think many of us understand that, but it still doesn't answer the question. I guess maybe the national agreement is nothing more than an okay for each region to pursue their own agreement for carriage on their schedule. I also agree that this will all change later this year once upgrades are completed.

Here's a bit more info on the release of the new Cox IPG from MultiChannel News

Cox Gasses Up Next-Generation Guide

Operator Taps NDS to Port Tru2way Apps; IPG Set for August Launch
By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 3/23/2009 2:00:00 AM MT
Cox Communications, gearing up for a late-summer launch of its next-generation interactive program guide developed with NDS, is stirring a slew of entertainment and information applications into the mix.

The MSO last May announced the deal to outsource IPG development to NDS, which has been building a tru2way-based guide to Cox's specifications. In addition to a brand-new user interface designed from scratch, the IPG features integrated program information across Cox's linear channels, video-on-demand and digital video recorder content.

Now, on top of that, Cox will layer in a wide range of interactive apps with NDS's help, including: caller ID and e-mail on the TV, news, sports, weather, games, movie listings, a "mosaic" view of multiple channels, horoscopes, lottery results and customer-care services.

"They're one of the first MSOs that are taking steps to deploy interactive on a larger scale," said Jesper Knutsson, vice president and general manager of sales for NDS Americas.

Originally, Cox planned to have those ITV applications reworked by TVWorks, the operator's joint venture with Comcast. Instead, the operator turned to NDS to do the job, to make the integration with the IPG "more seamless," said Lisa Pickelsimer, Cox executive director of video product development.

The guide, which Cox expects to begin deploying in August, will replace the Aptiv Passport guide (now owned by Macrovision Solutions) in its Motorola markets and Cisco Systems' SARA guide in its Scientific Atlanta systems.

"Our guides today have very much an ad-hoc feel," Pickelsimer said, noting that the IPG, VOD client and interactive TV currently are three separate clients.

For now, Cox is still keeping the NDS-developed guide out of the public eye. The company has declined to show demos or release screen shots.

Pickelsimer provided a brief rundown of the highlights: The main guide view is not a grid; it's a three-panel screen with a list of channels on the left, programs on the selected channel in the middle; and a program description on the right. (A grid also is available for those who prefer it.)

In addition to integrated search, the guide provides a "browse related" feature that links to other content based on similar actors or themes. For example, if Titanic is on the VOD menu the guide may link to an upcoming History program on famous ships, Pickelsimer said. Tribune Media Services's entertainment-information products On TV and On Connectors are built into the new guide, enabling such linkages.

Individual users in a household can program their favorite channels and customize ITV apps, so, for instance, each family member can pull up his or her own horoscope. The IPG also will provide remote DVR programming via Web or mobile phone.

Initially Cox will deploy the guide on new set-tops running tru2way middleware. The MSO is not disclosing which set-top vendor or OpenCable Application Platform middleware it is using. In a second phase, the plan is to bring the IPG to the existing HD and HD DVR boxes through the pre-OCAP OnRamp middleware developed by TVWorks.

Pickelsimer said the guide will let Cox add features in future releases, such accessing Internet content on the TV and personal media stored on home PCs. "We made a concerted effort to design an information architecture that would incorporate new things we haven't anticipated," she said.

NDS, in addition to its work on Cox's guide, has supplied the operator with its IEX automated set-top box testing solution.

In preparation for the IPG launch, Cox has been upgrading its headends to support that OCAP/tru2way, including installing new servers.

Cox started the guide-overhaul initiative in 2005. Internally the operator refers to the project as SCIN (pronounced "skin"), which stands for "Simple Consistent Intuitive Navigation."

"The underlying thought was, users don't want to interact with a guide -- they just want to find content," Pickelsimer said.

Noted Knutsson: "The goal is to not notice the user interface. If you notice it too much you're not doing your job."


I have a feeling no one at cox knows going on with the IPG's. First they signed Tivo for Dvr's (most likely for a fee) then they signed a long term deal with Aptiv the maker of the current IPG's used in Motora areas, the NDS was supposed to be only for HD,HD/DVR, but the above mentions it wll replace all the guides. This is starting to get crazy.

Cox seems to operate like a franchised business. The head office signs a deal with a channel, basically telling each area that they want it carried. Each area then decides if they want to play along or not. The first analogy that comes into my mind is Subway and their "all footlongs are $5" promotion. All the stores owned by the mothership, and most of the larger franchise owners, are following along with this deal. However, my local Subway has signs posted saying they aren't offering the deal, and only have the original 8 footlongs for $5. That doesn't stop Subway from playing their stupid jingle on all the TV stations around here, just that they have to put some disclaimers in fine print that offers aren't valid everywhere.

:D yes Cox markets make final choice

:D yes Cox markets make final choice

if it's really a local choice then why can't the cox markets in the Kansas City Royals market get together and sign agreements to carry the full schedule this year instead of 80 games like last year. Timewarner can, but not cox this is just crap.

Cox seems to operate like a franchised business. The head office signs a deal with a channel, basically telling each area that they want it carried. Each area then decides if they want to play along or not. The first analogy that comes into my mind is Subway and their "all footlongs are $5" promotion. All the stores owned by the mothership, and most of the larger franchise owners, are following along with this deal. However, my local Subway has signs posted saying they aren't offering the deal, and only have the original 8 footlongs for $5. That doesn't stop Subway from playing their stupid jingle on all the TV stations around here, just that they have to put some disclaimers in fine print that offers aren't valid everywhere.

I don't think that's it at all. I think a lot of it has to do with limited bandwidth in certain markets forcing those areas to pick and choose what channels they add until more bandwidth becomes available. Please remember, not every Cox market was originally controlled by Cox. Many areas were bought out from smaller cable companies with differing networks. Some of these areas have been upgraded more than others. Theres also the demographic to think about and what channels will do well in a particulair region. As for HD Net, I'm not sure why San Diego has it and other Cox markets don't. Perhaps their testing it out to see if it does well before launching it in other markets. Or maybe it's because people in SoCal expect HD Net from their experience with Time Warner so Cox got many calls asking for it in that region. I think once Cox is finished upgrading all their markets and bandwidth is no longer an issue you will see more National roll outs. I realize many people are impatient, but I think if you look at how many HD channels we have today compared to last year you'll see a big difference, and 2009 will be no different than 2008 in that Cox will be adding many more HD channels.

but I think if you look at how many HD channels we have today compared to last year you'll see a big difference,
I had 7 channels added on 3/18/08 so by a week that does not count in the last year. Then I had 3 added in August and 1 removed in November. So exactly how does 2 net channels added in the last year count as a big difference?

Just to clarify, San Diego does not carry the HD Nets.

I believe that Orange County does have the HD Net but they are on a premium tier.

Just to clarify, San Diego does not carry the HD Nets.

I believe that Orange County does have the HD Net but they are on a premium tier.

Sorry, you are right, I always mix that up. Why I keep thinking San Diego and Orange County are the same I'll never know. OP corrected.

I had 7 channels added on 3/18/08 so by a week that does not count in the last year. Then I had 3 added in August and 1 removed in November. So exactly how does 2 net channels added in the last year count as a big difference?

You tell him, king. :)

The bigger problem is that after you finally get the next 12, you won't be much happier, I've yet to even tune some of them. :(

http://www.multichannel.com/article/190439-Cox_Gasses_Up_Next_Generation_Guide.php?nid=4682&source=link&rid=5412781

more on the NDS guide

also search google with the keywords cox NDS Tru2way and find more info then this time last year.

I don't think that's it at all. I think a lot of it has to do with limited bandwidth in certain markets forcing those areas to pick and choose what channels they add until more bandwidth becomes available. Please remember, not every Cox market was originally controlled by Cox. Many areas were bought out from smaller cable companies with differing networks. Some of these areas have been upgraded more than others. Theres also the demographic to think about and what channels will do well in a particulair region. As for HD Net, I'm not sure why San Diego has it and other Cox markets don't. Perhaps their testing it out to see if it does well before launching it in other markets. Or maybe it's because people in SoCal expect HD Net from their experience with Time Warner so Cox got many calls asking for it in that region. I think once Cox is finished upgrading all their markets and bandwidth is no longer an issue you will see more National roll outs. I realize many people are impatient, but I think if you look at how many HD channels we have today compared to last year you'll see a big difference, and 2009 will be no different than 2008 in that Cox will be adding many more HD channels.


Omaha was one of the first for @home and digital phone, but we were one of the last areas for for the passport IPG update from 2.7-3.0.

So if you are rigight since Omaha has always been cox for as long as I have been alive (31 years) we should be one with a ton of HD we currently have 48HD .

Omaha was one of the first for @home and digital phone, but we were one of the last areas for for the passport IPG update from 2.7-3.0.
Count your blessings. Cox OKC has always used SA DVRs and the execrable SARA software. If there is anything worse on any platform that the primitive, limited, and often unreliable SARA software, I don't know what it is

Fox News HD - channel 725

MLB Network HD - channel 743

Speed HD - channel 749

E! HD - channel 781

Cartoon Network HD - channel 795

Disney Channel HD - channel 800

ABC Family HD - channel 801

FX HD - channel 859

On April 30th Omaha will add these to our lineup.

nice just wondering when Cox OKC will add Disney HD.....anyone?

nice just wondering when Cox OKC will add Disney HD.....anyone?

no clue, but bet hd is the next channel they will add

Cox continues to provide advanced DVR product options for our customers

ATLANTA, April 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Cox Communications announced today plans to offer a multi-room viewing option for DVR customers. This new offering will allow viewing of recorded DVR content throughout the home, in both standard and high-definition. The device contains a larger hard drive that allows customers to record and store more of their favorite shows. In addition to the increased capacity, the DVR will use Cox's next generation guide which includes new personalization and search options as well as interactive features. Multi-room viewing will launch in a yet to be named Cox market later this year with additional launches to follow.

"Cox strives to continually enhance the TV experience for our customers with advanced video services that allow for more viewing flexibility and personalization," said Steve Necessary, vice president of video strategy and product management. "We have been testing multi-room viewing in our labs and are confident that our customers will love the additional convenience and functionality it offers."

Multi-room DVR viewing provides users with the ability to watch content that is recorded on one DVR in the home on other non-DVR receivers in the home. In addition, customers will have full trick functionality - pause, fast forward and rewind - on recorded content while watching from any receiver.

Communication between the DVR and non-DVR receiver(s) will take place using MoCA (Multimedia Over Cable Alliance) home networking technology. The technology allows Cox to transform current in-home wiring into the equivalent of an Ethernet network so that receivers can connect to one another.

"Our advanced DVR product options, coupled with the roll out of our new interactive program guide, will offer customers a user-experience that is simple and convenient while providing unparalleled control over their video experience," added Necessary. "Multi-room viewing will not replace the option for multiple stand alone DVR units in a home. It's an addition to our product line, allowing customers the opportunity to decide which option best fits their needs."

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/04-06-2009/0005001465&EDATE=

Cox to merge New Orleans with the rest of Louisiana. This will create the 3rd largest region for Cox.
http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2009/04/cox_communications_will_realig.html

The device contains a larger hard drive that allows customers to record and store more of their favorite shows.

I wonder what "larger" actually means. I really want a 50-60 hour (HD) DVR.

http://www.multichannel.com/blog/BIT_RATE/12571-Comcast_Cox_Prep_Remote_DVR_Scheduling_For_2009.php?nid=2226&source=title&rid=5412781

cox to do remote dvr scheduling with the NDS software

According to Steve from Cox, the San Diego market will be adding 4 new HD channels starting May 4th.

Ch. 701 HBO2 HD
Ch. 719 ABC Family HD
Ch. 752 Disney HD
Ch. 768 BET HD

Source (http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/3/7484.html?1241108122)

Fox News HD - channel 725

MLB Network HD - channel 743

Speed HD - channel 749

E! HD - channel 781

Cartoon Network HD - channel 795

Disney Channel HD - channel 800

ABC Family HD - channel 801

FX HD - channel 859

On April 30th Omaha will add these to our lineup.

theese are now live brings HD count to 56

theese are now live brings HD count to 56

I really wish Cox in NW Arkansas would add these channels. Has anyone heard about any new channels for NW Arkansas?

Fox News HD - channel 725

MLB Network HD - channel 743

Speed HD - channel 749

E! HD - channel 781

Cartoon Network HD - channel 795

Disney Channel HD - channel 800

ABC Family HD - channel 801

FX HD - channel 859

On April 30th Omaha will add these to our lineup.

The channels in bold were recently added to the Cox Lineup in Baton Rouge. BET HD, Fox Business HD, Bio HD, WGN-HD were also added in April. We now have a total of 61 HD Channels.

We've had the others for a few months now.

Philip



Here are some additions coming up. Thanks for sending your HD priority lists. They have helped us in our planning and we are looking at additional launches this summer based on everyone’s input.



May 22

Hampton residents will have access to 21 additional HD channels. (I believe I’ve sent you this already. If not, I can send you a complete list).




Science Channel HD (channel 760) will temporarily be replaced with Lifetime Network HD (channel 709) in York County and James City County. Customers in York County, Bethel Manor, USCG Training Station and Yorktown Naval Weapons Stations will get Science Channel HD back, along with access to 23+ additional HD channels, when our upgrade work is complete this summer. Residents of James City County will get Science Channel HD back, along with access to 23+ additional HD channels, when our upgrade work is complete in early fall. This was caused by some technical issues so that we could add additional channels. Lifetime is a top 15 network so I think this will be a good swap for many.



June 12th

Launch WPXV HD (ION TV) on channel 749 to subscribers in all areas of Hampton Roads except West Point, New Kent and King & Queen County.

Launch WUPV HD (The CW - Richmond) on channel 713 to subscribers in West Point, New Kent and King & Queen County.



June 18th

Add Disney Channel HD on channel 738, ABC Family HD on channel 719, and HBO2 HD on channel 784. These channels will be available to subscribers in James City County and York County later this year.>>>>>>>>>>>> A new premium service, Playboy TV will be added to channel 593. ($14.99 per month).


Hobie Ritzel

Video Product Manager

Science HD atleast has HD I haven't seen much hd on Lifetime.

Philip

how many hd will that be total for your area?

60

the ones in other markets we don't get yet are Fox buisness HD, MLB HD, WGN HD, WE HD , Bio HD, IFC HD, TWC HD, and the the HDNETs from Orange Ca

Science HD atleast has HD I haven't seen much hd on Lifetime.

Im in Va beach so im not affected by the ch changes lifetime/ science etc. in my maket I've had the 21 channels for over 4 months:D

the ones in other markets we don't get yet are Fox buisness HD, MLB HD, WGN HD, WE HD , Bio HD, IFC HD, TWC HD, and the the HDNETs from Orange Ca

Omaha does not get theese either , WE HD , Bio HD, IFC HD, TWC HD, or the HDNET's

My friend at Cox told me they have agreement to carry BBC America HD, MSNBC HD to launch (6/29/09) thats when both these networks flip the switch

60

Does this include locals? I didnt know Cox offered that many HDs.....

In New England we have 53 not Including locals, 60 with Locals...

We Recently got BET HD, BIO HD, and HD PPV....

I think the only ones we are "missing" are Disney, WE HD , IFC HD, TWC HD, the HD Nets, ABC Family, and HBO 2 HD.

I doubt well get TWC HD until they do the local on the 8s in HD for our area. I dont see the HD Nets going outside of Orange County any time soon, I wish as do many others that Cox would bite the bullet and make the deals though.

yes this includes locals 2,3,4,7,10,13,14,15,49,

5 Cox Markets have agreements to add them by july, Omaha, Topeka, Fairfax, Oklahoma City, Cleveland. my area(Norfolk VA) and New england , New Orleans due to get them by sept

5 Cox Markets have agreements to add them by july, Omaha, Topeka, Fairfax, Oklahoma City, Cleveland. my area(Norfolk VA) and New england , New Orleans due to get them by sept

I hope Omaha doesn't do something stupid and put HD Theater in the HDNET tier. How did you here Omaha is getting them in July noting in the Omaha avs forum.

My friend at Cox told me they have agreement to carry BBC America HD, MSNBC HD to launch (6/29/09) thats when both these networks flip the switch

Do they have agreements for Disneny XD? I hope Omaha adds BIO HD soon.

I hope Omaha doesn't do something stupid and put HD Theater in the HDNET tier. How did you here Omaha is getting them in July noting in the Omaha avs forum.

no HD theater is not going to be in with them like OC,ca It was announced earlier this week by cox National hq ,Atlanta my friend who works for Cox locally confirmed it for my area

Do they have agreements for Disneny XD? I hope Omaha adds BIO HD soon.

yes they signed the Disney XD HD agreement when they signed for Disney, Abc Family HD ,Now its up to each Market to add the channel

some agreements are national like FOX NEWS, some are local for example some areas have TMC the movie channel HD we dont, but we get HBO2 HD

Omaha will look foolish when HDNET comes since they want to offer only free HD.

i also noticed ca gets all premium hbo etc east west HD we only get east coast feeds for HD.. HBO2 is the only 2nd feed were getting in this area no west coast feeds yet

Omaha needs HBO2 and the rest of the HBO's in HD.

Omaha will look foolish when HDNET comes since they want to offer only free HD.

we offer free HD but I keep in contact with cox Product Manager - Video rep for my Area I send him channel requests all the time from these forums. he heads up the programing Dept and he knows people on forums are willing to pay for HDnet

we offer free HD but I keep in contact with cox Product Manager - Video rep . who handles hd programing and he knows people on forums are willing to pay for HDnet

Does he know when Omaha will get more hd or just your area?

Just trying to find info when Omaha will get the HD versions of channels they recently added.

I wish Omaha would add ESPN News and ESPNU in HD.

he handles my area and he sends me lists for other areas when i ask sometimes he'll ask a coworker in Atlanta and send me the list, or i go through a contact in Atlanta

can you ask him if yhe can find out when Omaha will get ESPNU and ESPN News in HD please.

can you ask him if yhe can find out when Omaha will get ESPNU and ESPN News in HD please.

those are national agreements for sept so we will get them phased in from 1st to 30th in differant areas, people in my area asked about those last month and he told me we get them the 3rd week of sept here he didnt have set date yet for my area but it was national to go for sept

and omaha and fairfax normally get them before us

Fox News HD - channel 725

MLB Network HD - channel 743


Disney Channel HD - channel 800

ABC Family HD - channel 801



On April 30th Omaha will add these to our lineup.
see here we still dont have date for mlb hd we just added Sd for it last month and Disney, Abc Family HD wont be out here till June 18th

and omaha and fairfax normally get them before us

I will be suprised if Omaha gets more HD before June 12th when we are getting the Iowa PBS moving to digital from analog and two IPTV sub channels and IowaPBS HD.

yes they signed the Disney XD HD agreement when they signed for Disney, Abc Family HD ,Now its up to each Market to add the channel

Is the Disney XD a national contract or does Omaha need to sign a contract for it?

How do they decide what gets a national contrat or a local contract?

Is the Disney XD a national contract or does Omaha need to sign a contract for it?

How do they decide what gets a national contrat or a local contract?

Disney got National contract, the last few that went by localality was MLB HD ,Bio HD ,TWC HD etc, each area has to sign to pick those up. its hard to say why some go national from the start and some go to a few areas at start up

Seems to be a lot of Cox subs on here. Is Cox testing tru2way in any of your areas?

I don't think Omaha is yet.

Seems to be a lot of Cox subs on here. Is Cox testing tru2way in any of your areas?

Fairfaix,Va is and we're getting it in aug with multi room hd dvrs

WASHINGTON -- NDS, the leading provider of technology solutions for digital pay-TV, today announced that it has been chosen by Cox Communications, the multi-service broadband communications and entertainment company, to be the prime integrator for its upcoming tru2way™ platform, set to launch in Summer 2009.

With this agreement, NDS will be responsible for the management and implementation of the tru2way system that will be deployed by Cox. NDS will provide these services for the complete end-to-end solution, from the headend through to the set-top box (STB) components. NDS’ role will initially begin with the roll out of the tru2way STBs to Cox customers in July. NDS will also provide the tru2way user interface and interactive applications moving forward.

“NDS did a tremendous job on our new interactive program guide. The quality of their work and the consistent timeliness of their deliverables enable us to entrust NDS with the deployment of our entire tru2way platform,” said James Kelso, Vice President of Video Engineering for Cox Communications. “The knowledge and experience NDS has demonstrated give us great confidence for the rollout of new services which we’re planning this summer.”

Faifaix is and we're getting it in aug with multi room hd dvrs

can you see how soon Omah will get it? Any idea what the DVR's wil be? It says larger drive, but the current motorola's have 160GB drives.

can you see how soon Omah will get it? Any idea what the DVR's wil be? It says larger drive, but the current motorola's have 160GB drives.

In my area we're getting newer box's around july or Aug. most areas across the country should be upgraded for 2way by aug. for my area im ready but to the north they wont be till july.we have 2 areas here in same cox zone to the north they get differant locals then i get, and there up grade is taking longer

In my area we're getting newer box's around july or Aug. most areas across the country should be upgraded for 2way by aug. for my area im ready but to the north they wont be till july.we have 2 areas here in same cox zone to the north they get differant locals then i get, and there up grade is taking longer

have you heard is it going to be just the NDS or will cox contine with the Passport/SARA software until the NDS software can run on the older hardware.

have you heard is it going to be just the NDS or will cox contine with the Passport/SARA software until the NDS software can run on the older hardware.

cox is replacing all the old hardware with new equip going all NDS as far as I know. Hardware/ firmware upgrades with new technoligy to better handle tru2way.

Ive been to the regional office here and seen the demo for the new equip coming out here this summer, the multiroom hd dvr has more storage and interactive guide and weather

cox is replacing all the old hardware with new equip, Hardware/ firmware upgrades with new technoligy to better handle tru2way.

so Omaha will finally be forced toget rid of the motorola DCT 2000 that are crap.:D

Can anyone explain the Docsis set top gateway?

so Omaha will finally be forced toget rid of the motorola DCT 2000 that are crap.:D

Im pretty sure Omaha is, We in Va are getting rid of them..lol... the new system is a national agreemant to replace older moto boxs and other units still in use by Cox

Im pretty sure Omaha is, We in Va are getting rid of them..lol... the new system is a national agreemant to replace older moto boxs and other units still in use by Cox

I don't know if I posted before, but Omaha had the DCT 2500 before and when we took it back to exchange it they said Omaha had to many issues with the DCT2500 and we got the old DCT 2000.

I don't know if I posted before, but Omaha had the DCT 2500 before and when we took it back to exchange it they said Omaha had to many issues with the DCT2500 and we got the old DCT 2000.

bummer

i have 2 Motorola DCH3200 and 2 DCT 6416 HD DVRs

are the boxes the Mpeg 4 Motorola boxes?

are the boxes the Mpeg 4 Motorola boxes?

yes

So is cox done with the Macrovison ipg software, or will we see upgrades untill Tru2way launches in our area.

So is cox done with the Macrovison ipg software, or will we see upgrades untill Tru2way launches in our area.

Probably keep getting upgrades

Philip
can you check and see if the DCT 2000 and DCT 3416 will handle tru2way? I just reread an email I got from a Omaha CSR and Omaha hopes to launch Tru2way by July 1st.:D

YES they support tru2way as long as they're firmware is upto date

you asking about the DOCSIS 3.0 for internet

no I read some where that cox is not going to use the OOB channel for the STB's anymore but use Docsis Settop gateway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS_Set-top_Gateway

they might I havent heard anything on that yet from anyone at cox in my area