the Nexxtech 50 for $3.99 was a mistake in the paper. They have a sign at the store saying so.

I didn't know about the Sony. I didn't look at the BB sales paper. If they still have some when I get there in a few days I might take back my Nexxtech and get the Sonys.

the Nexxtech 50 for $3.99 was a mistake in the paper. They have a sign at the store saying so...
Your local store couldn't possibly be more wrong:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Customer-reviews-for-NexxTech-CD-Rs-ECDR48X50PK/sem/rpsm/oid/124096/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do

Well, 3 CDs and 2 DVD burns so far, all with absolutely ZERO problems. At the paltry sum of 8 cents per CD-R and 16 cents per DVD-R disc, I'm more than pleased. These seem to be definitely good for cheap backups or stuff from DVRs for nagging friends. I bought 300 CD and 50 DVD. I'll be heading back tomorrow for whatever DVD-R discs are left.

Looks like I finally found a replacement for the Playos. :)

Link to check availability of all Nexxtech medias nearest you (local purchases only, no internet):
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Blank-Discs-and-Storage/sem/rpsm/catOid/-13012/N/20012961+20013011+20013012/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do

20 cents apiece for Verbatims is cheap enough for me. No need to mess with questionable stuff. :eek:

20 cents apiece for Verbatims is cheap enough for me. No need to mess with questionable stuff. :eek:
When Verbatim has CD-Rs for 8 cents, I'll pounce. ;) :D :eek:

Best price I've EVER seen, for Verbatims $9.99 for 50! That's .20 each! This will only help a few of us, because it is from Inkstop, and they are only in 5 states, including Michigan, and Ohio. Check it out if you can. The ad says only one per customer, but in the past, they have encouraged me to buy several. I'll pick up a few tomorrow!

OfficeMax had the Verbatim 16xDVD-R for $7.98 for 50 pack about a month ago. I wish I had bought more....Grrrrrrr...... I am ready for them when/If they run that one again though!! ;)

When Verbatim has CD-Rs for 8 cents, I'll pounce. ;) :D :eek:


This from a guy who despises Memorex?!?!? :D

What is the Media Code on those NexTec DVDs spyder??

OfficeMax had the Verbatim 16xDVD-R for $7.98 for 50 pack about a month ago. I wish I had bought more....Grrrrrrr...... I am ready for them when/If they run that one again though!! ;)

Damn, I read all the ads, every Sunday, including Office Max... How the heck did I miss that one? :(

Verbatim 100-pack 16X DVD-R for $17.99 after rebate with free shipping at Buy.com. (http://www.buy.com/prod/verbatim_dvd_r_4_7gb_16x_branded_100pk_spindle_95102/q/loc/14982/10412809.html)

This from a guy who despises Memorex?!?!? :D

What is the Media Code on those NexTec DVDs spyder??

:o Yeah, I know. They're CMCs, so I don't expect a lot. I mostly bought these for the CDs, not the DVDs anyway. I just thought I'd use one pack to try the DVDs out, and give the other pack to a friend that needed some 8X media to use while waiting for TY discs to come.

Keep in mind that I don't use digifaq as the "end-all-beat-all" reference for what I consider to be "appropriate" media. What I mean by this is that appropriate is a sliding scale for me. The CDs for the car typically get beat to death within a few months, what with going in and out of those sandpaper sleeves, so I couldn't care less how special or great they are. I just burn another and go. :cool:

If I'm doing something like my sister's wedding, then I want the best DVD media out there. If I'm doing something that my 8 year-old son is going to watch once and get tossed, it's an entirely different story. (He'll be upgrading from a digital receiver to his own Comcast DVR at the end of this school year, so that won't likely be an issue anymore. That is, if he finishes earning it.) :)

I had a U0001 (4th Class Media) disc that got passed around to at least 20 households before making it back to me. It got; left in the sun, left in freezing temps, touched by countless grubby kid hands, scratched all over, nicked, scraped, and generally looked as though it had been through WWIII. Still, this supposed poor media still plays great and held its own against a barrage of misfortune and abuse. :eek:

I'll try nearly anything once, just to say I tried it and get the personal experience. That way, when I say I despise Memo-Wrecks, I can say so with conviction, and not just because I read they sucked somewhere. ;)

Damn, I read all the ads, every Sunday, including Office Max... How the heck did I miss that one? :(

Dunno......It was even posted here on this thread. I had a $10 off coupon that I forgot about! Made me so mad when I found it 2 days after the sale ended. I could have bought 350 Verbatims for something like $49.50 OTD tax and all. Wish I had........ Would have been a final cost of 14 cents per disc. :eek:

At the risk of entering FatWallet territory, Google Checkout has a $10 off $10 promotion right now. Be sure to read the fineprint (as with all offers). Some stores that sell media use Google Checkout, including the one mentioned above in the Verbatim post. But leave some for me ;-) There is also an additional cross-promotion when using a Citi credit card that gets you an additional $5-$10 in stmt-credit/rewards points.

Hoops, there is also a $30 off offer for those willing to apply for a buy.com Visa Card. Sooooo, with $15 rebate and $30 off for credit card, you could actually get paid $12.00 for purchasing a 100 spindle of excellent DVD-Rs !!! :eek:

Hoops, there is also a $30 off offer for those willing to apply for a buy.com Visa Card. Sooooo, with $15 rebate and $30 off for credit card, you could actually get paid $12.00 for purchasing a 100 spindle of excellent DVD-Rs !!! :eek:

Buying has never been more profitable :-) I like those Verbatims, they are among the most reliable brands I use in my recorder (along with Sony, TDK, Maxell, Panasonic -RAM). I think some of those Verbatim packages offer some sort of a free 60-day trial to a dvd-by-mail rental service as well, but I forgot the details. Now if they throw in a free pizza... :)

I think some of those Verbatim packages offer some sort of a free 60-day trial to a dvd-by-mail rental service as well, but I forgot the details...
That's funny you brought that up. I gave my friend the 8X Nexxtech 25-pack to tide her over until the 300 TYs arrive from SuperMediastore we ordered and she gave me a 50-pack of 16X Verbatims in exchange. (I told her that wasn't necessary since they were a gift, but she insisted on the trade) So, I got 50 Verbatims for $4. :D

Anyway, the Verbatims offer a 60 day trial to intelliflix on the cakebox. I'll never use it, but it's there...

That's funny you brought that up. I gave my friend the 8X Nexxtech 25-pack to tide her over until the 300 TYs arrive from SuperMediastore we ordered and she gave me a 50-pack of 16X Verbatims in exchange. (I told her that wasn't necessary since they were a gift, but she insisted on the trade) So, I got 50 Verbatims for $4. :D

Anyway, the Verbatims offer a 60 day trial to intelliflix on the cakebox. I'll never use it, but it's there...

Wow that sounds like an NBA trade :-)

One of these days I'll give the TY a try!

For those wanting CDR' s made in Japan Office Depot has Maxell 25 packs for $2.05 in their clearance section. They are triple coated for scratch protection.
The clearance section was in the middle of the same aisle that CDR's are sold on.
So you might need to look around the store.

Also, CompUSA has a CD/DVD binder that holds 320 discs for $10. bucks through Feb. 3rd. It's a zipper type binder similar to Case Logic brand.
The brand is Targus I believe. Normally $40.
No limit on how many you can get but only too stock on hand in the store.


bjf

ooops! how did i miss this? 25pk TDK DVD-RW/DVD+RW 4x speed, $10 at CompUSA (40c per blank). You can check for delivery options/availability by zip code at compusa.com

Contrast with BluRay: for $25 you can get ONE (1) TDK BR-RE (rewritable)

Contrast with BluRay: for $25 you can get ONE (1) TDK BR-RE (rewritable)Wow, no wonder Japan wants to offload all the DVDs to Taiwan!

Theron

Wow, no wonder Japan wants to offload all the DVDs to Taiwan!

Theron

Very good point!

I checked my local CompUSA, they had plenty of them left. The website said no DVD+RW but the shelves had at least a dozen. In the past I had used the TDK 2x -RW in the tall-slim-all-white-cases but never used (or seen) the 25pk TDK spindle. Maybe they are new that's why they haven't sold out quickly?

Will report back after I try a few...

* 25pk of TDK DVD-R or DVD+R, 16x speed, no rebates, $7 at Radio Shack. Comes out to 28c per so it's not the lowest price, but if you only need 25, and have success with TDK...

Anyone know the media id of these?

That CC link says 50 Nexxtech CDRs for not DVDs for $3.99. I think the store paper said something about 25 or 50 pack DVDs for $3.99. When I was at the store there was a sign that said the paper was wrong about the 50 pack DVDs selling for $3.99. The 25 pack of DVDs was selling for $3.99.

/\Which is exactly what I said back on post #994. :confused:

Circuit City has Nexxtech CDRs @ $3.99 for 50. Are these any good? Or are they at least worth that ridiulously low price of 8 cents/disc for things that you don't care that much about? :)

DVD-/+R discs were $3.99 for 25 of these same brand discs. That's 16 cents/disc. (8X speed listed)

Oh, I see. When people were talking about the Nexxtech $3.99 for 50 thing I thought they were talking about the ad I think that was in the paper showing the Nexxtech DVD spindle. Next to it was, "I think" the tag that you could get 25 or 50 pack of DVDs for $3.99. When I went to the store there was a sign saying that the paper made a mistake and that the 25 pack DVD spindle was $3.99. The sign must have mentioned that it should have been your choice of 25 DVDs or 50 CDR for $3.99. When you lined the 50 CDRs I thought you were talking about the DVDs too. My bad. : (

but I'll try to word it to be as on topic as I can. :)

The info in this thread has been invaluable for learning what media to pursue and what to leave on the shelves... I was very happy to pick up quite a few of the TY DVD+R Sonys price matched to the BB ads!

My question is, assuming there are no more TY DVD-Rs in the supply line (and I don't recall anyone talking about that here lately), what should we be looking for to go on sale that is the next best thing? Verbatims? I gather that we want MIJ media, and I've seen the big charts that list out all the manufacturer codes, I guess I'm just looking for a practical sort of "keep your eyes out for this..." kind of advice.

Thanks!

Theron

TPKeller2........ Unless folks have some dusty MIJ media left in their backrooms/warehouses that just "turn up" I expect we will see little more MIJ on store shelves. I have read most Media makers are shifting DVD 4.5 gb production to Taiwan to open up room in Japanese production for the very expensive Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Discs. My local Sears still has some MIJ Taiyo in the 25 disc spindles, but I need a good pricematch deal to make purchasing them worthwhile.

There are presently a number of good online options for ordering MIJ Taiyos in + and - R silver or white tops. Also, most people rate the MIT Verbatims as very high quality media. I expect the supply of those to remain strong for quite a while.

I'm still finding Sony x16 MIJ at Walgreen's Drug Stores & this is after they have had sales on them & the stores have been cleaned out of them & they have been reordered from their warehouse & the MIJ discs are still coming into the stores.

So check out a Walgreen's Drug Store in your area because maybe their warehouse also still has MIJ discs?

An easy way to tell is that the Sony's that are MIJ have a "SMOOTH" 1/4" lip on the top & the ones from Taiwan have a "SHARP EDGE" on the top.

Thanks Bill..... also.... every spindle of MIJ Sony's I have seen has had the white spacer ring up top - round on -R and hexagonal on the 8x MIJ Taiyo +Rs......

So check out a Walgreen's Drug Store in your area because maybe their warehouse also still has MIJ discs?Ha... believe it or not, despite the fact that I live in one of the fastest growing areas in the entire United States, the closest Walgreens to me is 50 miles away! What's up with that?

Theron

Here are this weeks sale ads in my local paper.

Theron

Best Buy:
Memorex 50-pack CD-R 7.99
Fujifilm 50-pack DVD-R/DVD+R 12.99
Verbatim 25-pack Multicolored LightScribe CD-R 12.99
Sony 25-pack DVD+R DL 34.99

Circuit City:
HP 50-pack 16x DVD+R/DVD-R 10.99
HP 2 50-packs 52x CD-R 10.99

Staples:
Sony 100-pack DVD+R/DVD-R 24.98
Sony 50-pack DVD+R/DVD-R 14.98
HP 100-pack 52x CD-R 14.98

Office Depot:
Maxell 50-pack CD-R 6.99
Maxell 15-pack DVD+RW/DVD-RW 7.99
Sony 50-pack DVD+R/DVD-R 12.99
Office Depot Bundle: 75-pack DVD-R + 25-pack CD-R 14.99

Here are this weeks sale ads in my local paper.

Office Depot:
Maxell 15-pack DVD+RW/DVD-RW 7.99


These seem to be only rewriteables on sale this week. At just over 50c per blank it's not the lowest price, but it's better than full price for sure! I don't have any personal experience with Maxell -RW (but I like their -R). And they can be price-matched if one's favorite retailer carries the 15pks as well. Sometimes they even give yo 10% off the difference between their price and the sale price, so them having it at MSRP actually benefits the price-matcher :)

These seem to be only rewriteables on sale this week. At just over 50c per blank it's not the lowest price, but it's better than full price for sure! I don't have any personal experience with Maxell -RW (but I like their -R). And they can be price-matched if one's favorite retailer carries the 15pks as well. Sometimes they even give yo 10% off the difference between their price and the sale price, so them having it at MSRP actually benefits the price-matcher :)Arg! Thanks for the correction! I've edited it to fix.

Am I mistaken, or are -RWs kind of rare to be found?

Theron

I have used the 4x Maxell DVD-RWs and done ok with them. Mine were from WallyWorld and were Ritek something something something ; )

I have had one or 2 bad discs - could have been user error or perhaps even machine error. But, I did have at least one (maybe 2) that was unusable.... Couldn't format it or erase it. Rather than hassle with it I tossed it in the trash bin and got on with my life.


RITEKW01

Arg! Thanks for the correction! I've edited it to fix.

Am I mistaken, or are -RWs kind of rare to be found?

Theron

Yes, you are right! DVD-RW are hard to find, especially on sale, so it's a shopping spree for me everytime they are on sale.

The ones I found that repeatedly go on sale (at random internals) so far:
1) Sony 25pk - various chain stores
2) TDK 25pk - Last week at CompUSA
3) Office Depot 25pk (the last spindles I bought failed to format with Panasonic ES20 even though I have no problems with previously purchased spindles)
4) Maxell 15pk or 25pk - various chain stores
5) single +/-RW from TDK in tall white/see-thru case at Walgreens (99c when on sale)

I don't know about DVD+RW brands since my recorder can only use DVD-RW :-)

Last night I got my second coaster out of the new 16x Verbatims I bought from Office Max. That is 2 coasters out of 26 burned so far - not too good.

In fairness I had been pushing my Philips DVDR3455/37 pretty hard for some hours... Recorded, split, and edited the SuperBowl in SP Quality and then burned 4 DVDs back to back before this coaster happened on the 5th. I am going to keep an eye on this though. I do wish I had disc quality scanning capability with my burner, but I don't.

Also in fairness, I haven't had any other coasters from my Philips, including a number of burns of the much derided and despised Memorex 16x DVD-Rs..............

Last night I got my second coaster out of the new 16x Verbatims I bought from Office Max. That is 2 coasters out of 26 burned so far - not too good.

In fairness I had been pushing my Philips DVDR3455/37 pretty hard for some hours... Recorded, split, and edited the SuperBowl in SP Quality and then burned 4 DVDs back to back before this coaster happened on the 5th. I am going to keep an eye on this though. I do wish I had disc quality scanning capability with my burner, but I don't.

Also in fairness, I haven't had any other coasters from my Philips, including a number of burns of the much derided and despised Memorex 16x DVD-Rs..............

I've noticed that during March Madness, the extra workload caused more media issues than I normally got during the rest of the year.

I have two Verbatim spindles from Office Max that I haven't opened yet. I hope they have not messed up their reliability. After I had the Office Depot -RW fail-to-format incident, after no-problem-spindles, I should really open every spindle I buy and test it before the return window/warranty expiires...

On the sales front, I just noticed that CompUSa has a 100pk of unmarked and unnamed DVD+R 4x speed, for $15, one per customer advertised in the sunday paper and listed on their website.

I learn some interesting things here. My local Walgreen's does indeed stock MIJ Sony -Rs in the 50 pack.....at 31.99 per!! :eek: Unless they pricematch I will not be shopping DVD blanks there - or maybe I will catch them on clearance.

Also, went by K-Mart tonite on a whim (I very rarely set foot inside a K-Mart). They had 2-50 spindles of 16x MIJ Sony +Rs but at $29.99 each. Does K-Mart pricematch on Media? No one was ANYWHERE to be found to ask. Of course all the 16x MIJ Sony I have seen so far have been SonyD21 codes, so it's not like they are Taiyos. I would buy them at about $15 per 50 if K-Mart would pricematch them though.

Well in my area Sony 50 packs REGULAR PRICE is around $32.00 so Walgreen's is not out of wack but when they put them on SALE they run around $14.99 for a 50 pack so keep your eye out for Walgreen's Sales & remember any place that Price Matches will match or beat Walgreen's price.

I have had no trouble having Wal-Mart match the price & Staples, Circuit City & Sears beat the Walgreen Price.

Thanks Bill. I will watch those Walgreen's sales papers. Anybody know if K-Mart Price matches?


UPDATE: I called my local Super-KMart. They wouldn't even consider price matching. Yet one more reason not to waste my time with K-Mart. No wonder they went bankrupt.

I'm still finding Sony x16 MIJ at Walgreen's Drug Stores & this is after they have had sales on them & the stores have been cleaned out of them & they have been reordered from their warehouse & the MIJ discs are still coming into the stores.

So check out a Walgreen's Drug Store in your area because maybe their warehouse also still has MIJ discs?

An easy way to tell is that the Sony's that are MIJ have a "SMOOTH" 1/4" lip on the top & the ones from Taiwan have a "SHARP EDGE" on the top.

Bill, the "round smooth top = MIJ theory" took a hit tonite, at least in my area. Taking this tip from you I was using touch to try to find some MIJ Sonys at Staple's and Circuit City rather than dragging every last spindle out for a look see. Much to my surprise and delight I "felt" 2 spindles of the round smooth top type at Staples, but when I fished them out from the back - both were MIT clearly marked on the side. They did have the MIT signature "Grey Spacer Rings" though. At CC there was only one smooth top spindle, and it was "Grey Spacers" MIT as well. :(

Bill, the "round smooth top = MIJ theory" took a hit tonite, at least in my area. Taking this tip from you I was using touch to try to find some MIJ Sonys at Staple's and Circuit City rather than dragging every last spindle out for a look see. Much to my surprise and delight I "felt" 2 spindles of the round smooth top type at Staples, but when I fished them out from the back - both were MIT clearly marked on the side. They did have the MIT signature "Grey Spacer Rings" though. At CC there was only one smooth top spindle, and it was "Grey Spacers" MIT as well. :(

SONY DVD+R 50 packs

Gray Round spacers or if there is a round paper advert inside covering the DVD then most of them are - MIT

Gray "Octagon" shaped spacer - MIJ (TY02) (I just purchased 3-50 packs at sears staples price match 14.98 - another 10%...)

Thanks Bill. I will watch those Walgreen's sales papers. Anybody know if K-Mart Price matches?


UPDATE: I called my local Super-KMart. They wouldn't even consider price matching. Yet one more reason not to waste my time with K-Mart. No wonder they went bankrupt.Ha ha, you have to admit it was mighty nice of them to admit this over the phone and save you the trip out to the store where you ::gasp:: might actually buy some stuff!!

Theron

Well I guess it's back to looking at the spacers then.

Not necessarily looking for a deal, but availability. Any big-name (TDK, Sony, Maxell, etc.) makers selling DVD-R DLs yet? Everyone's got DVD+R DLs, and a couple smaller firms have DVD-R DLs (Ridata, Verbatim) but I'm trying to find DVD-R DLs in the brands recommended by my Recorder's user manual (which include the three mentioned above).

I suspect the Verbatim DVD-R DLs will work in your recorder.

I just got back from Costco & they have TDK cake box 100's on a 2 for 1 sale. This is 43.49 Cdn. plus tax. BTW, this is Costco Ontario. Maybe have same deal in U.S. Check it out.

OfficeMax - Verbatim 16x DVD+/-Rs for $12.99 per 50 spindle.

Staples - Sony 50pk 16x DVD+/-Rs $14.98 or 100pk for $24.98.

Circuit City - Philips DVD+Rs 25pk for $6.49 and.... TDK DVD+/-Rs 50pk for $12.99


BestBuy - Dynex 16x DVD-Rs 50pk $8.88.

Walgreen's - Sony 16x DVD+/-Rs 2-50pks for $31.99. Likely Japanese Sony's ( Thanks Bill R.) at 32 cents per disc. (not counting tax) Anybody got any good Walgreen's coupons? :)

OfficeMax - Verbatim 16x DVD+/-Rs for $12.99 per 50 spindle.

Staples - Sony 50pk 16x DVD+/-Rs $14.98 or 100pk for $24.98.

Circuit City - Philips DVD+Rs 25pk for $6.49 and.... HP DVD+/-Rs 50pk for $10.99


BestBuy - Dynex 16x DVD-Rs 50pk $8.88.

Walgreen's - Sony 16x DVD+/-Rs 2-50pks for $31.99. Likely Japanese Sony's at 32 cents per disc. (not counting tax) Anybody got any good Walgreen's coupons? :)You must have gotten the EARLY paper! :)

Anybody know who makes the HPs at Circuit City?

Theron

A friend of mine just got back from Walgreen's Drug Store with his -R MIJ Sony's :D

There is also a coupon in their flyer for TDK RW's + or - in a dvd case for 99 cents with a limit of 4 but my friend grabbed 10 -RW's & they just rang them up for him.

Hint: if you need the coupon from their sales flyer or you forgot it at home (That's usually me :eek: ) they usually have stacks of them at the entrance for your taking & the limit of 4 does not say per person just 4 to a coupon so grab as many as you like if your store won't ring out more than 4 for you on one coupon.

You must have gotten the EARLY paper! :)

Anybody know who makes the HPs at Circuit City?

Theron

The majority of HP discs are CMC MAG.

Where do you guys get the jewel cases?

O Max has 200 slims for $30. Good or bad deal?

Where do you guys get the jewel cases?

O Max has 200 slims for $30. Good or bad deal?
Sounds like a pretty good deal.

I get 100 slims for ~$13 at Sam's Club.

Where do you guys get the jewel cases?

O Max has 200 slims for $30. Good or bad deal?
Pretty good for a B&M, but you're always at their mercy for selection. Meritline, United States Plastic Corp, Supermediastore, and others have a plethora of styles, colors, and sizes to choose from at decent prices. If you can work your collection to where you can use the milti-disc cases, it saves you a ton of money and space. Good luck.

You must have gotten the EARLY paper! :)

Anybody know who makes the HPs at Circuit City?

Theron

I wuz up late........ :eek:

BTW, the only discs I would personally use for "keeper" material from those I listed are the MIJ Sony's and the Verbatims. But I know not everyone is so picky so I listed all deals that looked good due to price/quantity.

Circuit City - Philips DVD+Rs 25pk for $6.49 and.... HP DVD+/-Rs 50pk for $10.99
Hey where are you? I'm in Virginia, and my CC flyer has TDK 50 packs for 12.99. :mad:

Theron

Circuit City To Close Several Stores - Clearance Sale Wednesday (http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/circuit-city/circuit-city-to-close-several-stores--clearance-sale-wednesday-235592.php)

Interesting...

Theron

Hey where are you? I'm in Virginia, and my CC flyer has TDK 50 packs for 12.99. :mad:

Theron

Ooooops..... The Early Bird was too early. I got the info from their website. It must not have changed to the "new sales" yet. I now see TDK just like you.... Sorry. I am in the Charlotte, N.C. area.

Ooooops..... The Early Bird was too early. I got the info from their website. It must not have changed to the "new sales" yet. I now see TDK just like you.... Sorry. I am in the Charlotte, N.C. area.Ha ha... yes, and if I had been paying a little more attention, I would have noticed it was the same as in last week's flyer! Must be time for a nap! :)

Theron

A friend of mine just got back from Walgreen's Drug Store with his -R MIJ Sony's :D

There is also a coupon in their flyer for TDK RW's + or - in a dvd case for 99 cents with a limit of 4 but my friend grabbed 10 -RW's & they just rang them up for him.

Hint: if you need the coupon from their sales flyer or you forgot it at home (That's usually me :eek: ) they usually have stacks of them at the entrance for your taking & the limit of 4 does not say per person just 4 to a coupon so grab as many as you like if your store won't ring out more than 4 for you on one coupon.

I got one of the TDK +RW for future experiments, even though I can't find it now. I can't comment on its quality since my recorder can't use +RW :)

They also have a 10pk of Sony rewriteables at $10, with jewel cases (don't remember if it's slim or fullsize jewel cases). I am not sure if they are Sony MIJ or MIT. I haven't seen any other rewritable sales.

(Staples has the same deals/flyer as last week)

I saw Memorectums on sale at several places. Why did no one post those prices? :D

I saw Memorectums on sale at several places. Why did no one post those prices? :D

I know pretty much no one here uses them so I don't waste my time. ;)

In fairness to Memorex, I have had the same number of coasters out of the first 25 discs of my current 50 spindle of Verbatim 16x DVD-R as I had out of my last TOTAL 50 spindle of Memorex 16x DVD-Rs. I find that a bit odd. In fairness to Verbatim, all the Verb. failures came via my Philips DVDR 3455/37, and I have burned many more Verbs on that unit than Memorex.

I also have several recordings that are 3-4 years old on Memorex (as does a pal of mine) and they still play flawlessly. So I guess I had better luck than most here with Memorex. That said I do prefer MIJ media, and still have a good overall opinion of the Verbatims.

In fairness to Memorex...
I also have several recordings that are 3-4 years old on Memorex (as does a pal of mine) and they still play flawlessly.

I also have Memorex media that was burned 5 years ago without playback problems. Memorex has used so many different OEM's (from CMC Magnetics to Taiyo Yuden) that there are no absolutes.

Memorex...

$23 for 100 +/- R at Office Max :D I grabbed one and burned a few w/ no problems. They're a purty purple on the bottom. :)

OD has OD DVD+/-RW 25 packs for $7.99 this week. These are now 4x and the Maxells are the only 2x, right? (I should check my old posts in the thread.)

Most Maxell +/-RWs I have seen are 4x.........

In all fairness to Memorex I too have had many that burned fine...in the campfire.

It's an insult to your beverage to use them as coasters.

In all fairness to Memorex I too have had many that burned fine...in the campfire.

It's an insult to your beverage to use them as coasters.

Funny stuff. :D

I have to honestly say I think they are no worse than any other cheap media. Maybe they will all be blank throw-aways 15 minutes from now, but in 3-4 years I have had Zero failures from ANY DVD I have successfully recorded, including dozens of Memorex. I guess I have just been lucky. :)

OD has OD DVD+/-RW 25 packs for $7.99 this week. These are now 4x and the Maxells are the only 2x, right? (I should check my old posts in the thread.)

Yes they are listed as 4x. I was very happy with those until the last spindles I bought simply refused to format. They look the same as the ones that continue to work, same upc/bar-code, the only difference I found is the batch number on the innermost see-thru ring of each disc.

A couple more offers for this week:
* 50pk Fuji slimline color jewel cases $7 at Longs Drugs
* 25pk 8x Fuji silver +/-R $9 after a $7 mail-in-rebate at Longs Drugs

On-going sales
* Dollar Tree 10pk thin cd-shaped slim poly cases for $1 (im' not sure what their proper name is, they look like a plastic/poly jewel case in the shape of a CD).
* Maxell 30pk DVD-R/+R $9 in three 10pk supersized color-coded jewel cases at Staples. Good deal only if there are no sales in a particular week and you need the DVDs right away.

On-going sales
* Dollar Tree 10pk thin cd-shaped slim poly cases for $1 (im' not sure what their proper name is, they look like a plastic/poly jewel case in the shape of a CD).
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I always have called those Clamshells.

I always have called those Clamshells.

Thanks! That's what I was trying to say but couldn't find the right word!

* 25pk DVD+RW GQ-brand around $10
* 15pk DVD+R DL GQ-brand around $21

I have no experience with either one.

* 60pk Playo DVD-R/DVD+R $7 after $20 Easy Rebate at Staples. These are the new package Playos. They seem to be better than the previous 50pk Playos so far (with panasonic recorder). Limit 1 per address. They also have their usual free after rebate items (universal remote, fax/modem, crappy phone, internet security software)
* 75pk DVD-R 8x + 25pk CD-R $10 after a $10 mail-in rebate at Office Depot (in-stores only !). Office Depot branded. Comes out to 13c per blank dvd, assuming the CD-Rs are free and the rebate is cashed.
* 20pk Memorex dvd+R Lightscribe $12 at Best Buy
* 100pk Sony +/-R $25 at CompUSA (25c per). I do not know if they are MIJ/MIT
* * 50pk Office Depot branded +/- 16x $10 (20c per)
* 50pk Magnavox dvd-r/+r $13 at Office Max (26c per)
* 100pk Magnavox 16x dvd-r/+r $25 at Office Max (25c per)
* external LiteOn 16x superwriteall usb2 burner $30 after $50 mail-in rebate; closeout while supplies last, at Office DEPOt
* pye recorder $80 at circuit
* 50pk philips +/-R $12 at Circuit
* 50pk Memorex slim jewel cases $9 at Staples (a bit high at 18c per)


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* 15pk Maxell -RW/+RW $8 at Office Depot (around 53c per)
* 25pk Magnavox +RW $15 (60c per) at Office MAX
* 25pk Memorex +RW $10 at CompUSA (40c per)

Thanks Hoops. I would love to know the Media ID on those Playos.

BTW, a friend I occasionally mail dvds of games he can't get just sent me a care package. I never ask him for discs because I get mine so cheap, but he up and sent me some anyway. Wouldn't you just know it - It was some Memorex 16x DVD-Rs. The Media Code is RitekF1. My NEC 3500AG Burner in my computer won't even recognize them. It has NEVER balked at ANY other supported Media! EVER! :eek: It calls these "invalid media". They seem to burn OK in my Philips DVDR 3455/37 home unit though. But, score one more MINUS against Memorex! :D




That Lite-On external burner looks interesting at $30 after rebate. Might have to check out some reviews on that one.

What does "Easy Rebate" mean?

What does "Easy Rebate" mean?

It's a Staples term for rebates that you can submit online. Basically you go to the Staples rebates website and enter the information from the Receipt, and then you submit the rebate online. No photocopies, no upc clipping, and no mailing of anything, so it's much easier to do than a traditional rebate. I'm not sure the checks are delivered faster with this, but they are a lot easier to submit and keep track of!

Staples PlayBoyz DVDs...only 1 per customer. :(

300+ burns and not a coaster yet! :)

Shred, your friend spent more on the shipping than the MemorSux were worth. ;)

I know spyder, I know. :( lol............

* 75pk DVD-R 8x + 25pk CD-R $10 after a $10 mail-in rebate at Office Depot (in-stores only !). Office Depot branded. Comes out to 13c per blank dvd, assuming the CD-Rs are free and the rebate is cashed.


FYI, the rebates for these guys take forever to be sent out. The one I got for Black Friday is only in stage 3 of 5 before they mail out the check :-)

Office Depot takes forever. Rebates for Black Friday 2006 should be in hand by BF 2007. :(

FYI, the rebates for these guys take forever to be sent out. The one I got for Black Friday is only in stage 3 of 5 before they mail out the check :-)

Is this true of Office Depot with most products, or just with these DVD deals? I ask because I am seriously considering buying that Lite-On External 16x DVD drive. I don't really need it at this time, but would like to have it to play around with. But, if it is gonna be one on those 6 month rebate deals I will probably take a pass on it. I despise long drawn out rebates. I still remember how hard I had to work to get my $50 rebate off an old SMC Router. :mad: I was gonna get my money If I had to drive to Illinois and beat it out of them.

The DVD drive is likely a rebate through LiteOn, not OD.

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* 15pk Maxell -RW/+RW $8 at Office Depot (around 53c per)


OD seems to be swapping between 25 pack OD-brand DVD+/-RW for $8, and Maxell *15 pack* DVD+/-RW for $8 every few weeks.

But only the Maxell are 2x anymore (if even they still are).. siigh.

Weeeelllll.... I guess I will find out about that rebate. Bought the Lite-On 16x External DVD SuperMulti-Drive today. Looks like a very nice unit. The model number is SHM-165P6SX07C. OD didn't even have a shelf tag for it and seemed clueless about it. While they were thrashing about on the computer looking for it to no avail, I just looked at everything in the locked glass case and spotted three of them. Were they hiding them? I doubt it. Rebate goes to Office Depot Rebate Center. :eek: They only sent me $13 on my $15 rebate on a printer. I got tired of messing with them over $2 and let it go. But I will fight for $50 if I have to. :D

The unit came with power cord, USB cord, nice little stand for vertical placement, and Nero7 Essential. I hope it is as good as it looks, and gives me no trouble incl. the $50 rebate!

SHM-165P6SX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106036)

Is this true of Office Depot with most products, or just with these DVD deals? I ask because I am seriously considering buying that Lite-On External 16x DVD drive. I don't really need it at this time, but would like to have it to play around with. But, if it is gonna be one on those 6 month rebate deals I will probably take a pass on it. I despise long drawn out rebates. I still remember how hard I had to work to get my $50 rebate off an old SMC Router. :mad: I was gonna get my money If I had to drive to Illinois and beat it out of them.

The only rebates I recently submitted to Office Depot (from what I can remember) were the 75+25 blank media, so I don't know if it applies to just this or all their rebates.

I like the DVD Burner OK. It let's me do quality scans. The Tray seems pretty flimsy.
The USB cord is ridiculously short.

I am disappointed how poor some of the vaunted Taiyo Yudens have scored. This includes the White Printable 8x Premium DVD-R I bought from Rima, and also the 8x DVD+R Sony MIJ that are TY made as well. Some have been in the 70's. :( A more normal score is in the low 90's which is OK, but certainly NOT what I expected from High $$$ Premium Media.

Overall the MIT Verbatim 16x DVD-R have produced the best scans with the widest variety of burners.

The RitekG05 Maxell MIT I have scanned are horrible. One scored a ZERO, and several others below 50%. The CMC Memorex have varied from as good or better than the Taiyos to almost as bad as the Ritek G05 Maxells. But, I do not know how accurate this Drive really is for quality scans. Trying to learn as I go. The drive is very quiet, at least when burning DVDs at 8x, and the included Nero 7 is frustrating but I am getting it figured out. Waaaay more options than with Nero 6, many of which I do not need.
My main reason for purchasing this drive is for a possible EXT. Burner with my Philips DVDR 3455/37, if/when the oem burner fails.

For those signed up for the Office depot mailing list or rewards program, they mailed (not emailed) a small booklet with offers/coupons. One of them is 50% off Sony CD/DVD blank media. Limit 2 (spindles I assume) per customer. 50% off MSRP may still be high unless you have a strong preference towards Sony-branded media. Do not know if they are MIT/MIJ

In my area all brands of DVD Media carried by OD are MIT.

Playo's DVD+R @ staples Excellent deal!!! (also DVD-R but I did not buy those)

DVD+R's Code MCC004 (Dont know if its fake or the real thing??Made in China??) But I have burnt about 10 DVD+R's with a NEC 3550a (1f3) and a Liteon 160p6s (PSOC) and then ran Dvdinfro and CDspeed quality tests on them and so far all of them have been about 95% or better!!!

So about 7 bucks after rebate for 60 dvd's its a good deal!!! Too bad only one per household, and the sale end 2/24/07. Perhaps one can use a friends address for rebates...and also purchase online before midnight on the 24th and get rebates...

Everyone must be busy today! Here are the sales in my newspaper fliers for this week.

Office Depot:

Maxell 16x DVD +/-R 100pk 24.99
Sony CD-R 100pk 14.99
Memorex DL DVD+R 15pk 24.99
LightScribe DVD+R 10pk 7.99
LightScribe CD-R 10pk 5.99

Circuit City:

Nexxtech DVD +/-R 50pk 8.99
Nexxtech CD-R 100pk 8.99

Best Buy:

Verbatim CD-R LightScribe 30pk 12.99
Maxell DVD +/-R 50pk 12.99


Theron

Target has Sony 8x dvd-/+r 25 packs on sale this week for $7.99.

At my local store all were MIT but my Sears and Meijer stores both had MIJ in stock and I was able to price match.

Thanks parlin!!

Thanks again Parlin. I had been waiting for a good price on the Sony 25 packs somewhere so I could get the last of the 8x Sony/Taiyo Yuden on price match -10% from Sears. I had forgotten to check Target lately. Thanks to you I got 150 more 8x Sony/Taiyos at OTD cost of 32 cents each. Not great, but better than RIMA or Supermediastore for +R delivered. I think I have officially picked the bones of my local Sears. ; )

You're welcome. I'm glad someone else was able to take advantage of this sale. I had initially looked at the Target ad online and thought only the CD packs were on sale. They still had the cheapest price in my area so I went to buy them for $10.99 and was surprised to see the $7.99 price.

That will teach me to ignore the fine print. :o

Everyone must be busy today! Here are the sales in my newspaper fliers for this week.

Office Depot:

Maxell 16x DVD +/-R 100pk 24.99
Sony CD-R 100pk 14.99
Memorex DL DVD+R 15pk 24.99
LightScribe DVD+R 10pk 7.99
LightScribe CD-R 10pk 5.99

Circuit City:

Nexxtech DVD +/-R 50pk 8.99
Nexxtech CD-R 100pk 8.99

Best Buy:

Verbatim CD-R LightScribe 30pk 12.99
Maxell DVD +/-R 50pk 12.99


Theron

Thanks for posting them!!! Prices seem to continue to hold at under 30c for some brand names so that's a good thing!

I am suffering from the early symptoms of a certain seasonal disorder (March Madness!!!) so I'm falling behind on everything else :)

I can't believe nobody posted the sale for DVD cases at ??? It was 100 for $30, but also buy 1, get 1 free, so 200 cases for $30 (15 cents per)! Seems like it was Staples, but maybe OD/OM?

I can't believe nobody posted the sale for DVD cases at ??? It was 100 for $30, but also buy 1, get 1 free, so 200 cases for $30 (15 cents per)! Seems like it was Staples, but maybe OD/OM?

Well, two weeks ago this:

Where do you guys get the jewel cases?

O Max has 200 slims for $30. Good or bad deal?

I grabbed them then.

I just saw this on today's Morning Deals on http://www.consumerist.com/

100 Verbatim DVD-R, 29.99, with $11 mail-in rebate, free shipping. Final price $18.99.

http://www.spoofee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=274257

Rebate says must be purchased by 3/4/2007.

Just put my order in!

Theron

Killer deal. If I didn't already have around 600 quality discs I would jump on it!

Killer deal. If I didn't already have around 600 quality discs I would jump on it!:)

I was getting low, so I've been keeping an eye out.

Theron

I get a little compulsive about things. If the Verbatim 16x go on sale locally for $7.98 per 50 again I will probably by another 100-200. I don't know why. I doubt I will ever burn what I have now. :D

I just saw this on today's Morning Deals on http://www.consumerist.com/

100 Verbatim DVD-R, 29.99, with $11 mail-in rebate, free shipping. Final price $18.99.

http://www.spoofee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=274257

Rebate says must be purchased by 3/4/2007.
Got the DVDs yesterday, they are MCC 03RG20, which seems to be OK.

Theron

Theron, I have had very good luck with these MCC03RG20 Verbatims. No matter what burner I use, they routinely quality scan at 93 or above. For reference, with my burners/scanner, most TY scan at 93, just a little bit below the Verbatims. And the Verbs seem to be same quality regardless if burned at 4x, 8x, or 16x. Methinks they are near the best, if not the best DVD-Rs available.

My current routine with important recordings is to burn 2 copies: 1 Sony MIJ (Taiyo Yuden mfg.) Yuden000 T02 DVD+R and 1 Verbatim MIT MCC03RG20 DVD-R. If it is an irreplaceable recording like my basketball games, I also keep a copy on my Computer HDD. And maybe another copy on an external WD MyBook HDD. :D

Redundant redundant redundant redundant.......... :eek:

BB will have the 50 pack Verbatims (Dvd-/+r) on sale for $12.99 starting this sunday. I been patiently waiting for these to go on sale in my area. I am down to my last 10 Verbatims dvd-r's.

BB will have the 50 pack Verbatims (Dvd-/+r) on sale for $12.99 starting this sunday. I been patiently waiting for these to go on sale in my area. I am down to my last 10 Verbatims dvd-r's.
If you don't mind rebates, buy.com has 100 for $19.99.

BB will have the 50 pack Verbatims (Dvd-/+r) on sale for $12.99 starting this sunday. I been patiently waiting for these to go on sale in my area. I am down to my last 10 Verbatims dvd-r's.
Wish I had know this yesterday I have gift cards to spend there. Oh well I ended up getting the buy.com deal 100 dvd-r for $10 after rebate and google checkout.

Wish I had know this yesterday I have gift cards to spend there. Oh well I ended up getting the buy.com deal 100 dvd-r for $10 after rebate and google checkout.

Some Sales next week:

Best Buy:
Memorex 50 Pack CD-R - $7.99
Verbatim 50 Pack DVD+R or DVD-R - $12.99
Memorex 25 Pack DVD+R Double Layer - $29.99
Memorex 20 Pack CD-R LightScribe - $9.99

Circuit City:
Philips 50 pack 16x DVD+R or DVD-R - $11.99
Philips 100 pack CD-R - $11.99

I get a little compulsive about things. If the Verbatim 16x go on sale locally for $7.98 per 50 again I will probably by another 100-200. I don't know why. I doubt I will ever burn what I have now. :D


I have exactly the same OCD. I've got about 800 unburned discs and still can't wait to get to Besy Buy to pickup a deal on some Verbs. Somebody shoot me!

So can you still get slow DVD-Rs? It seems like, just like with 2x DVD-RWs being hard to find, the slow DVD-Rs are hard to find (at least they don't show up in these sales), and some of the probs on XS32s seem to be using the fast DVD-Rs.. (yes, I know they're *supposed* to be able to write fine on slower drives, but when my machine gives an error back immediately on the 16x DVD-Rs, and I was still able to write to DVD-RW, this seems like anecdotal evidence at least that the speed is an issue.. esp since the manual doesn't mention 16x as supported)

mattack,
Try Supermediastore for TY 8X discs. Same price as most sales.

2x? It's hard to even find DVD-RAM at that speed, let alone -R.

OfficeMax has Verbatim DVD+/-R 50 packs for $12.99. Fair price for some top shelf media. Saw a lot of stuff I wouldn't use on sale elsewhere. Not posting it. Someone will, I am sure. : )

BestBuy has exact same deal on those sweet sweet Verbatims. DVD+/- R 50 packs for $12.99.

OfficeMax also has Verbatim DVD+R Dual Layer 10 packs for $14.99!! Yummy! I will have to pick up a few of those!

Just saw this... beware! Guy was trying to get a good deal on some media...

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/compusa/beware-compusas-instore-pickup-is-a-scam-243041.php

Looks like the DVDs were Memorex... so maybe he was better off without them! ;)

Theron

/\ I guarantee you that there would be Hell to pay if this happened to me. I hate Comp USA anyway. Too many rebates.

That site does a very good job exposing either shoddy or corrupt practices... I wouldn't be surprised if they (CompuUSA) make it right. It's a blog worth subscribing to! :)

Theron

OfficeMax has Verbatim DVD+/-R 50 packs for $12.99. Fair price for some top shelf media. Saw a lot of stuff I wouldn't use on sale elsewhere. Not posting it. Someone will, I am sure. : )

BestBuy has exact same deal on those sweet sweet Verbatims. DVD+/- R 50 packs for $12.99.


Is there any worry if these are MIT. Do these get MIJ?

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I've had some iffy luck on Verbatim DVD-Rs lately. If you look at the inner stamp code on the discs, the good ones start with either (for +R) PAPA or (For -R) MAPA. Lately, people have been getting PAP6 and MAP6 and it seems to be of much inferior quality to the "A" media. I bought a bunch of MAP6 (unintentionally) to use in my Toshiba XS32 with LG burner, after getting spectacular results with MAPA media, and the MAP6 burned like crap. Testing using my PC burners it was just as bad.

Check: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=206028

Normally I'd say Verbatim is safe but it's getting much less so. Definitely aim for Made in Taiwan and avoid any of the Indian media which may or may not be making its way into the US.

Pretty much no DVD media on store shelves in the US is MIJ anymore, unfortunately.

Is there any worry if these are MIT. Do these get MIJ?

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MIT is fine. The linked thread is quite long. Seems to be a handful of people experiencing "real" problems with the Verbatims, and that always makes me a little suspicious that they may have a virus, or some other hardware/software problem that is contributing to the problem. Time will tell.

Well, speaking for myself, it's pretty consistent across my PC and the Toshiba XS32 with an LG drive (=not a virus). I think the fact that the "6" media is consistently bad and the "A" media is consistently good is a pretty telling pattern.

Well, speaking for myself, it's pretty consistent across my PC and the Toshiba XS32 with an LG drive (=not a virus). I think the fact that the "6" media is consistently bad and the "A" media is consistently good is a pretty telling pattern.

You have obviously investigated it more thoroughly than I. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. : )

Question for you: Are the 8x Verbatim DVD-R thought to be affected? I can still access those thru my local Sam's Club.

I was just posting it as a warning to not stock up on Verbatims until they're tested... I made the mistake of buying around 300 MAP6's (as I had had such excellent results with Verbatim -R, before I realised they weren't all that good) but thankfully could return the unopened ones. :)

I think the codes only affect 16x media, although I've heard of some variability in 8x quality as well. The CDFreaks thread talks about all the letter meaning is the discs were made in different buildings; if it's that inconsistent (different building=good or bad media) then I'd be scared.

That said, if you buy a pack and they burn well, you may want to buy a bunch more quickly before they restock.

/\ I guarantee you that there would be Hell to pay if this happened to me. I hate Comp USA anyway. Too many rebates.

Maybe that's why they are closing 141 stores soon...maybe they'll be gone soon.

All the stores around my area are closing, so I won't have to worry about this happening to me...sucks though...

I was just posting it as a warning to not stock up on Verbatims until they're tested... I made the mistake of buying around 300 MAP6's (as I had had such excellent results with Verbatim -R, before I realised they weren't all that good) but thankfully could return the unopened ones. :)

I think the codes only affect 16x media, although I've heard of some variability in 8x quality as well. The CDFreaks thread talks about all the letter meaning is the discs were made in different buildings; if it's that inconsistent (different building=good or bad media) then I'd be scared.

That said, if you buy a pack and they burn well, you may want to buy a bunch more quickly before they restock.

The 150 DVD-R 16x I bought at Officemax for $7.98 per 50 were Map6. I have experienced 2 coasters out of the first 50. 1 when I had been pushing my Philips hard for hours on end - so I don't rule out blaming the Philips for that one. My scans done on my Lite-On external 165 DVD-RW have all been pretty similar to the scores I get from mt Taiyo DVD +/-Rs. I get pretty much 93-95 with 16x and 8x Verb -R's and about the same from all the Taiyo. Theonly really badd stuff I have seen have been some Memorex RitekF1 and some Maxell RitekG05. I now avoid all Ritek based Media like the plague.

I wish this was all a bit easier. I thought Verbatim was very trustworthy, but now they are somewhat suspect also. :confused:

Having said all of that, even most of the the RitekF1 and G05 DVD's with very poor scans play in my DVD players.

Interesting. The Philips must have a burner that can handle the MAP6 media better than my LGs and Plextor on my PC.

It does go back to the point of be sure to test what you're stocking up on, though. :) I personally won't be buying Verbatim for a while until this sorts itself out, after seeing results worse than pretty much any media I buy (granted I usually only buy Verbatim and TY! But it was worse than Sony16D1, TTH02, etc)... Thankfully I have tons of Verbatim +R but wish I had bought more -R when I got the Miracle Spindle of MAPA -R (some of the best media scans I've ever seen).

JM, most of that thread you linked seems to be related to PAP6 which are Verbatim 16x DVD+R. I am using Map6 which are Verbatim 16x DVD-R. Possibly this may account for some of the difference?

I happened to notice the MAPA vs. MAP6 differences in my own use, so I've just been assuming that it's similar to PAPA vs. PAP6. I thankfully have never run into PAP6 +R media yet.

I think for various reasons, many people don't use the -R verbatims due to past bad luck (they were significantly worse than +R for a while, maybe somehow related to this?)

I happened to notice the MAPA vs. MAP6 differences in my own use, so I've just been assuming that it's similar to PAPA vs. PAP6. I thankfully have never run into PAP6 +R media yet.

I think for various reasons, many people don't use the -R verbatims due to past bad luck (they were significantly worse than +R for a while, maybe somehow related to this?)


You are right JM. I found a thread on Map6 problems when I googled it. Apparently there has been a bad batch as you suggest, with some getting great media and others finding it unburnable. I have had about a 2% failure out of 50+ Map6 Verbatim 16x DVD-Rs so far - maybe I got lucky. And I only paid $7.98 per 50 so I am not too unhappy with 2 coasters. I will have to scan some more media and report back later.

Some Sales next week:

Best Buy:
Memorex 50 Pack CD-R - $7.99
Verbatim 50 Pack DVD+R or DVD-R - $12.99
Memorex 25 Pack DVD+R Double Layer - $29.99
Memorex 20 Pack CD-R LightScribe - $9.99

Circuit City:
Philips 50 pack 16x DVD+R or DVD-R - $11.99
Philips 100 pack CD-R - $11.99


how are those Philips 100 pack CD-R? I figured for $11.99, it's good to have on hand in case I need to make a quick burn at that time, thoughts about the Philips brand CD-R?

After reading this, I checked to see what my Verbs were. I've only had a DVDR since the Pio 640 came out, last summer. I have burnt over 300 -R 16x Verbatims, probably more like 400. I finally had my first coaster a week or so ago. I checked the first Verbs I burnt, and those are MAP6. I checked the two most recent 50 packs I've used, and they were both MAP6. With only one coaster in 300-400 burns, I guess they aren't too bad, but I'll be wary, based on the warnings.


I've had some iffy luck on Verbatim DVD-Rs lately. If you look at the inner stamp code on the discs, the good ones start with either (for +R) PAPA or (For -R) MAPA. Lately, people have been getting PAP6 and MAP6 and it seems to be of much inferior quality to the "A" media. I bought a bunch of MAP6 (unintentionally) to use in my Toshiba XS32 with LG burner, after getting spectacular results with MAPA media, and the MAP6 burned like crap. Testing using my PC burners it was just as bad.

Check: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=206028

Normally I'd say Verbatim is safe but it's getting much less so. Definitely aim for Made in Taiwan and avoid any of the Indian media which may or may not be making its way into the US.

Pretty much no DVD media on store shelves in the US is MIJ anymore, unfortunately.

It's also possible that something has gone wrong lately with the MAP6 discs. They may have been fine in the past and it's more recent batches with issues.

It's also possible that something has gone wrong lately with the MAP6 discs. They may have been fine in the past and it's more recent batches with issues.
It appears there ARE faulty batches of Verbatim MAP6 discs!? (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408771&page=7)

Playo March Madness at Staples this week!!

* 60pks of either DVD+R or DVD-R for $7 after $20 Easy Rebate (online submission, no upc cutting/photocopies). The offer is good for 10 (ten) per customer/address. The rebate is good for a whole month but the sale price may change from week to week. Maybe the price will drop even further later on so don't buy all ten right away :) This also accrues Staples Rewards points :-)

So far the 60pk of Playaz has been about as good as any other brand I use on my Panasonic. The design on the front of the disc reminds me of the TDK discs, but I haven't compared media codes to see if there is any actual connection.

The Playaz 50pks I got before were not as good as the 60pks!

Playo March Madness at Staples this week!!

* 60pks of either DVD+R or DVD-R for $7 after $20 Easy Rebate (online submission, no upc cutting/photocopies). The offer is good for 10 (ten) per customer/address. The rebate is good for a whole month but the sale price may change from week to week. Maybe the price will drop even further later on so don't buy all ten right away :) This also accrues Staples Rewards points :-)

So far the 60pk of Playaz has been about as good as any other brand I use on my Panasonic. The design on the front of the disc reminds me of the TDK discs, but I haven't compared media codes to see if there is any actual connection.

The Playaz 50pks I got before were not as good as the 60pks!



so what you are saying is that the rebate is good for all 10 packs($20x10=$200)?

Playo March Madness at Staples this week!!

The design on the front of the disc reminds me of the TDK discs, but I haven't compared media codes to see if there is any actual connection.

The Playaz 50pks I got before were not as good as the 60pks!

I have and the media code is MCC 004, so if these are verbs then they are a good deal, if they are fake then???


Anyways I'm currently abour 1/2 through a pack of 60 Playo DVD+R's and I have had only one bad burn. I think because of my own fault. I got a new benq dw1655 and try to "overburn" really fast and it did'nt work. So far if I burn at 4x I get about 92-98% qaulity scans with neros CDspeed...

so what you are saying is that the rebate is good for all 10 packs($20x10=$200)?

Yes, this time it is! Their previous Playo rebates were only 1 per customer/address. This one is 10! (just ten, not ten factorial)

seems i've got some bad verbatims :( 16x dvd-r 100 pack got from buy.com for $18 when they had the $15 rebate. not sure if this is the code MCC 03RG20 ?? the inner circle is so hard to read even with a mag glass looks like it starts with a 6125E ??
having troubles with them on a HP 940 external usb pc drive using clonedvd2 and also in my pioneer 533. used about 50 so far and problems with at least 10-12 of them either will have write errors, will not load in the pioneer 533 or even some will write but not play, come out with dye streaks.

Man.....so many times great deals come with a hidden cost.

I'm confused. I bought some Verbatim when Best Buy had their sale last week because I heard Verbatim was good media. Now I'm reading this thread and wondering if I should return them (they're unopened)? What would you guys suggest? I can't see the serial number on the discs because they're completely covered. Thanks!

I'm confused. I bought some Verbatim when Best Buy had their sale last week because I heard Verbatim was good media. Now I'm reading this thread and wondering if I should return them (they're unopened)? What would you guys suggest? I can't see the serial number on the discs because they're completely covered. Thanks!I would suggest you stop screwing around with bargain basement media on sale at B&M stores and go over to supermediastore.com (http://www.supermediastore.com) and buy a couple 100 packs of tier 1 media, Taiyo-Yuden 8X Premium DVD-R, and never look back.

Dezbot, the problem is many manufacturers use a variety of sources, so no media is 100% safe. You have to keep an eye on reports like these, as things change. Verbatim doesn't make much of their own media (at least that's on store shelves) but luckily the stuff they sell has been quite good for a while. (anyone remember the absolutely HORRIBLE Verbatim 2X DVD-Rs? I can't tell you how many coasters I made on that, after they switched from Taiyo Yuden to CMC.. back when you wouldn't want to touch a CMC disc with a 10 foot pole).

That said, it is appearing Verbatim is cutting costs too. Keep in mind, stores sell, and people tend to want, the cheapest stuff.

I would say with Verbatim's latest trend towards not being as good, I'd go with Kelson's idea and just get Premium Taiyo Yuden (DO NOT buy the TY Value Line, I bought 200 of them and many have dye streaks and such-- but even then they still burn better than almost any media on the market)... there's really no alternative. (Except the 16X Taiyo Yuden is iffy. 4x and 8x is great.)

I would suggest you stop screwing around with bargain basement media on sale at B&M stores and go over to supermediastore.com (http://www.supermediastore.com) and buy a couple 100 packs of tier 1 media, Taiyo-Yuden 8X Premium DVD-R, and never look back.

Imho Verbatim is not "bargain basement" media. A good many folks acknowledge Verbatim to be as good as or nearly as good as TY - borne out by a considerable number of scans. With my 6 DVD recorders Verbatim shows quality scans equal to or better than the TY Premium 8x DVD-R from Rima.Com and also the Sony MIJ that are TY 8x DVD+Rs. There is a lot of garbage in B&M stores, but Verbatim is usually not among that class of media. That has been my experience anyway.

Turns out I have an external DVD burner that I use on the road for copying digital pics straight off the memory card. It doubles as a USB drive as well, and it does work with Nero's CD Speed program.

So I just ran a Disk Quality scan on one of my Fuji labeled Riteks and this is what I got:

General Information
Drive: SlimtypeDVD RW DW-Q58A
Firmware: VYA2
Disc: DVD-R (RITEKF1)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 176
Average: 112.10
Total: 1662180
PI failures
Maximum: 2
Average: 0.11
Total: 1338
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 19:08
Number of samples: 106263
Average scanning interval: 1.26 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
And this scan came from one of these new Verbatims that I got on sale from Newegg:

General Information
Drive: SlimtypeDVD RW DW-Q58A
Firmware: VYA2
Disc: DVD-R (MCC 03RG20 )
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 168
Average: 91.63
Total: 951830
PI failures
Maximum: 5
Average: 0.03
Total: 171
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 15:11
Number of samples: 71972
Average scanning interval: 1.35 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
Any thoughts? Are these decent scans? The PI errors and failures were both lower on the Verbatims, with the exception of one spike at 5 on the PI failure.

Both were recorded on my Pioneer 640.

Theron

What was the Overall Score that CD/DVD speed gave you? Should be over on the rt. hand side of the main scan screen. 100 is perfect. I am pretty new at quality scanning so I usually weight the Number Score more than trying to interpret the errors. I will say I don't see many PI failures over 2-3 max. I have read that 1 spike isn't really reason for concern though. Perhaps others better versed in this will weigh in.

Most of my top shelf media (Taiyo Yuden Premium 8x DVD-R, Sony MIJ Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R, Verbatim MIT DVD-R 8x and 16x, and Sony MIJ 8x DVD-R) give me quality scans of 90 or above. The TY (regardless of label/type) and the Verbatims (regardless of 8x or 16x and regardless what speed I burn at) usually score 93 to 95. Ritek F1 16x (Memorex) burns horribly on my burners that will burn it at all.

What was the Overall Score that CD/DVD speed gave you? Should be over on the rt. hand side of the main scan screen. 100 is perfect. I am pretty new at quality scanning so I usually weight the Number Score more than trying to interpret the errors. I will say I don't see many PI failures over 2-3 max. I have read that 1 spike isn't really reason for concern though. Perhaps others better versed in this will weigh in.

Most of my top shelf media (Taiyo Yuden Premium 8x DVD-R, Sony MIJ Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R, Verbatim MIT DVD-R 8x and 16x, and Sony MIJ 8x DVD-R) give me quality scans of 90 or above. The TY (regardless of label/type) and the Verbatims (regardless of 8x or 16x and regardless what speed I burn at) usually score 93 to 95. Ritek F1 16x (Memorex) burns horribly on my burners that will burn it at all.You know, I noticed that number on the window, but I didn't record it, and it didn't show up in the report... I'll have to scan them again!

Theron

Interesting scans. Without the graphs it's a bit harder to tell what's going on, but you may have some of the MAP6 Verbatim media. Both of your disks have a pretty high number of total PIE errors although neither one is out of DVD spec (no areas over 280 errors). PIF errors are pretty low which is surprising given the higher number of PIEs.

What burner did you burn the discs on? I have noticed that set-top DVD recorders perform much worse than PC-based units. I'm not sure why that is, part of it must be firmware related (since you can't easily update most set top units) although many PC DVD burners do better than most set top boxes "out of the box" without touching them.

To give you an idea, some of my better Verbatim media, burned on my LG burner on my PC, max out around 15-20 PIE errors with 50,000 total; PIF errors never go over 1 or 2 with a total of under 900-1000 (and I've had some under 500). I'm ok with discs that hover around 100,000 PIE errors (+- 10-20%), and PIF errors under 2000, as long as they don't spike. However, your Verbatim numbers look like the MAP6 discs I have, which have HUGE PIE error numbers at the beginning of the disc (And I think that's what causes issues in finalizing on my XS32).

To check if you have MAP6 look at the serial number stamped in the clear plastic around the center.. not the stuff sort of in the dye. It can be really hard to read until you get the hang of it... it'll probably either start with MAPA (awesome) or MAP6 (not so good). If it starts with something else entirely, CMC didn't make your discs, which could be good or bad. ;)

I'm not familiar with that specific drive so I don't know how trustworthy its scans are (not every drive that can scan is considered trustworthy- specifically Pioneer drives, which are excellent burners but very poor quality scanners). But assuming the scans are accurate, they're okay burns but nothing to be excited about. (the one thing I'm not sure how it plays in is the 'scanning interval'; I know some drives have different intervals [1ECC, 8ECC, etc] and that affects how the numbers are calculated)

I don't like the overall quality score numbers, it seems fairly arbitrary and sometimes gives a high quality score to a disc I don't like the look of at all, and sometimes gives a low score to a decent disc.

Some also argue that a transfer rate test is a better overall indicator of performance-- if the transfer curve is almost a diagonal line, with no dropouts/etc as the drive has to slow down to re-read parts, then it's a good disc.

Interesting scans. Without the graphs it's a bit harder to tell what's going on, but you may have some of the MAP6 Verbatim media. Both of your disks have a pretty high number of total PIE errors although neither one is out of DVD spec (no areas over 280 errors). PIF errors are pretty low which is surprising given the higher number of PIEs.

What burner did you burn the discs on? I have noticed that set-top DVD recorders perform much worse than PC-based units. I'm not sure why that is, part of it must be firmware related (since you can't easily update most set top units) although many PC DVD burners do better than most set top boxes "out of the box" without touching them.I should have screen captured the graphs. The first one started out high, then dropped a bit, then steadily climbed, before dropping off at the end. The second one didn't really seem to have much of a describable pattern. The Verbatim is a MAP6. They were both burned on my Pioneer 640 DVR. I'm not sure who the manufacturer of the scanning DVD drive is, it's in an Apacer CP300, which is a portable memory card reader / DVD burner combo.

Theron

Dezbot, the problem is many manufacturers use a variety of sources, so no media is 100% safe. You have to keep an eye on reports like these, as things change. Verbatim doesn't make much of their own media (at least that's on store shelves) but luckily the stuff they sell has been quite good for a while. (anyone remember the absolutely HORRIBLE Verbatim 2X DVD-Rs? I can't tell you how many coasters I made on that, after they switched from Taiyo Yuden to CMC.. back when you wouldn't want to touch a CMC disc with a 10 foot pole).

That said, it is appearing Verbatim is cutting costs too. Keep in mind, stores sell, and people tend to want, the cheapest stuff.

Thanks for the advice! The reason I bought the Verbatim is that I'd read on this site that it was good media, and I could afford them and not the TYs. Guess I'll take them back and save up for the TYs :-)

Not all Verbatim is bad... there are just some bad batches out there, which some people say that Verbatim knows about and is working to correct. It's just not guaranteed safe anymore, although it probably still is some of the best media you can buy at a physical store anymore (sadly, given the drop in quality).

How much, and what kind of media (-R or +R) did you buy? You might want to see how it burns before returning it. (Personally, the last few +R spindles I bought were the excellent PAPA codes but all of the -Rs I've found are the bad MAP6 codes... but if you got DVD-R with MAPA starting the serial number stamped on the disc, they're excellent). You may want to take them back, explain what you're doing, and ask if you can open them in front of them and examine to see if you see "MAP6" or "MAPA", and keep them if they're MAPA.

How much, and what kind of media (-R or +R) did you buy? You might want to see how it burns before returning it. (Personally, the last few +R spindles I bought were the excellent PAPA codes but all of the -Rs I've found are the bad MAP6 codes... but if you got DVD-R with MAPA starting the serial number stamped on the disc, they're excellent). You may want to take them back, explain what you're doing, and ask if you can open them in front of them and examine to see if you see "MAP6" or "MAPA", and keep them if they're MAPA.

I got two 50pk spindles of DVD-Rs. They're MIT & dated 2006 (also have the "intelliflix" offer on the cover inside the cakebox--just mentioning that because I saw it referred to in one of the links here). They're 16x if that means anything with regards to the problems people are discussing.

Regarding the scans people have posted: Is there a thread or other site where I can go and learn what the various numbers mean? I looked at TPKeller2's scans, but I don't get what it all means. Thanks again!

I just burned the same Video 3 different ways.

1- Taiyo Yuden mfg. Sony MIJ 8x DVD+R burned using Nero 7 Essentials at 16x on my NEC ND 3500AG. Scored a 70 on CD/DVD Speed test due to 1 huge Pie Failure of 7.

2- TY mfg. Sony MIJ 8x DVD+R burned using Nero 7E at 8x on Lite-On SHM-165P6SX. Scored a 98. (this was the very next disc from same spindle)

3- Verbatim MIT 2006 Intelliflix Offer 16x DVD-R (MAP6) burned using Nero 7E at 8x on the Lite-On SHM165P6SX. It scored a 95.

I must have gotten lucky so far. Most of my Verbs have scored 93 or above when burned at 8x. Very similar for the few I have burned at 16x. These are the MAP6's. I generally burn my media at 8x anyway. Just seems to work better.

I am genuinely sorry to/for those who have had bad results based on my/others recommending Verbatim. My luck has been very good with them so far, and I based my rec. on this plus reading/viewing a lot of others experience and scans of Verbatim.

Here are a few links.... You may need to register at some places...

CDFreaks (http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=33)

AfterDawn (http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/47)

Digital-Digest (http://forum.digital-digest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69)

WalGreen's in my area has MIJ Sony 16x DVD+/-R 50 packs on sale for $17.99. In the past the +R have been SonyD21. These -R I just bought are Taiyo Yuden TYG03. That is 38 cents per disc OTD here. Not the greatest price, but not bad for "right here right now" Made in Japan Taiyo mfg. 16x Media.

And you all know how desperately I needed another 50 spindle of "right here right now" DVD blanks. :D

Thanks for the tip about Walgreens... I picked up (the last) 2 spindles of MIJ -R and 1 spindle of MIT +R (as I've heard the Sony MIT +R isn't really that bad, although part of me wonders why I spent the money, and may end up returning the +R).

And yeah, I needed ANY more blank DVDs like a hole in the head. (and I'm debating buying a 200 pack of TYG02's from Supermediastore on sale this weekend, but my Toshibas seem to like those).

We can both thank BillR for the WalGreen's tip (Thanks BillR :) ), and me for taking a chance to see who made the MIJ Sony16x DVD-R's ;) ...... If they weren't Taiyos I would have still kept them as the MIJ Sony08D1 8x DVD-R have worked well for me so far. Ditto for the MIJ SonyD21 16x DVD+R...........

And yeah, I needed ANY more blank DVDs like a hole in the head. (and I'm debating buying a 200 pack of TYG02's from Supermediastore on sale this weekend, but my Toshibas seem to like those).
Just in case you didn't notice, the TYs on sale at Supermediastore are Valuelines.

Really? I got an email for 8X Premiums with paper sleeves for $57.99 with free shipping.. not a GREAT price but they're TYG02... what sale did you see?

(And I wouldn't touch Valuelines with a 10' pole after my last batch.. bad dye streaks and such... of course they still usually end up as better burns than 99% of other media.. [total PIF errors lower than most discs, even with the spikes from the dye, not that I true discs with dye problems])

This is the one I thought you were talking about:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-white-inkjet-hub-printable-8x-dvd-r-media-200-free-paper-sleeves.html

It's $59.99 w/ 200 paper sleeves. The Valuelines /are/ MID TYG02 but are of inferior quality.

Here's the one I got, they're not printable...
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-dvd-r-silver-paper-sleeves-combo-200-pack.html

Here's the one I got, they're not printable...
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-dvd-r-silver-paper-sleeves-combo-200-pack.html
That's definitely worth it, thanks for the link.

The Valuelines /are/ MID TYG02 but are of inferior quality.

I hope this is not correct. I have been buying Taiyo Yuden Premium 8x DVD-Rs from Supermediastore and the packages are labeled MID TYG02.

I previously bought some Valuelines and the packaging was labeled Value DVD-R.

John

Relax, the MID (Media Identification Code) for the DVD-R Sony/Taiyo 8x and the Taiyo 8x Premium I ordered from Rima are also TYG02. This denotes 8x. The 16x Taiyo are TYG03.

Premium=First Quality ValueLine=Seconds of the same media.

Reading the fine print at SuperMediaStore it says you may get either TYG02 OR TYG03 MID in the ValueLine. I suppose Yuden treats their seconds the same regardless of 8x or 16x original MID.

Reading the fine print at SuperMediaStore it says you may get either TYG02 OR TYG03 MID in the ValueLine. I suppose Yuden treats their seconds the same regardless of 8x or 16x original MID.

The ValueLines were 4X till those sold out. SuperMedia Store designates as "ValueLine" any TY discs that don't meet their criteria for top quality. I bought 200 ValueLines and haven't had a failure yet.

ValueLine discs are like sex - even when they're bad, they're still pretty good.

The ValueLines were 4X till those sold out. SuperMedia Store designates as "ValueLine" any TY discs that don't meet their criteria for top quality. I bought 200 ValueLines and haven't had a failure yet.

ValueLine discs are like sex - even when they're bad, they're still pretty good.

crabboy, do you do quality scans on those ValueLine Taiyos? I just wondered what type overall scores they give. From your reports I suspect maybe similar to the Premium line. I usually see 93 or above with Premium Yaiyos and the Taiyo made Sonys I have.

I see consistent 97s, and a occasional 98, with 8x TY +R (on 2 different burners). Never had any Valuelines.

I see consistent 97s, and a occasional 98, with 8x TY +R (on 2 different burners). Never had any Valuelines.

Sweet! What burners? I have had only 1-2 98's, those on my Lite-On SHM-165P6SX.

Sweet! What burners? I have had only 1-2 98's, those on my Lite-On SHM-165P6SX.BENQ LS DW1655 and NEC ND-4551A (flashed up from 3550A). I also usually get 95-96, and sometimes 97, from 16x Verbs and MIT Sonys (always burn @8x).

crabboy, do you do quality scans on those ValueLine Taiyos?

No, I'm afraid not. I bought the 200 ValueLines to copy my VHS collection to DVD. Have only done cursory checks on them as I go, so YMMV. I figured that, worse come to worse, I could redub the movies (I'm keeping the tapes) if any of the Valuelines failed. At the advice of other posters I buy top of the line TYs now.

CircuitCity TDK DVD+/-R 16x 50 pack for $11.99. OfficeMax Verbatim DVD+/-R 16x 50 pack $12.99. BestBuy Dynex 16x DVD+R 50 pack $8.99.

CircuitCity TDK DVD+/-R 16x 50 pack for $11.99. OfficeMax Verbatim DVD+/-R 16x 50 pack $12.99. BestBuy Dynex 16x DVD+R 50 pack $8.99.

This is nice! The big brands seem to stabilize at under 30c per blank!

Also for the brave of heart, the Playo deal at Staples continues this week, 60pk of Playo +/-R for $7 after a $20 Easy Rebate (online submission). Last week the offer was up to 10 spindles per customer. I haven't bought any this week, so please check before buying! It is also possible that the price may drop further later in the month. I believe the rebate is good for a couple more weeks regardless of the sale price....

...the Playo deal at Staples continues this week, 60pk of Playo +/-R for $7 after a $20 Easy Rebate...It is also possible that the price may drop further later in the month.
Why do you think the price may drop, hoops? If they dropped the rebate, I'd buy out the store.

Why do you think the price may drop, hoops? If they dropped the rebate, I'd buy out the store.

I guess people are not buying them or they made more than they could sell... Maybe people are worried about the no-name silly brand name.

Even with the $20 rebate and limit of 10 splindles per person, they still had stacks of them remaining. That's why I only bought half of the allotment, that way if they lower the price even more, I can get some more.

I haven't compared in a dvd burner, but from what I recall, the ones from the new sleeker-looking 60pks seem to be more reliable than the old 50pks (the $5 sale ones). (only DVD-R; I have not bought any +R)

LOL, their online rebates (EasyRebate) are much safer than mail-in rebates. They can't lose them in the mail, and you have instant proof/tracking on their rebate website. I am not worried about online rebates. It's the mail-in ones that I think twice before I use them.

Best Buy is going to have the Sony DVD-Rs on sale tomorrow. Does it matter if they are MIT?

Sony 50 Pack DVD+R or DVD-R discs >>>> $12.99 I can't make out if they are 16x or 8x.

I'm sure they're 16x-- even if the website shows 8x, pretty much any 8x stock is long gone from high volume stores like BB.

I consider MIT Sony media fairly middle of the pack-- it's fairly dependable but is not incredibly good, but also probably won't die in 6 months, either.

If you find MIJ it's a good price (and much better media) although again, I seriously doubt you'll find anything MIJ at Best Buy. Perhaps find a slower-media-sales store (like a Sears or Walmart) and attempt a pricematch, if you find MIJ there. Be warned, not all MIJ Sony media is TY, especially if you happen to find 8x media, although the SONY08D1 MIJ media I have is surprisingly good. (I'm not sure if any SONY16D1 is MIJ or not, I've never found a MIJ spindle of it but who knows..)

The last Sony MIJ 16x DVD-R I bought at WalGreen's (2 weeks ago) were Taiyo Yuden TYG03. The last Sony MIJ 16x DVD+R I bought at CircuitCity were Sony D21. Seems like good media, scans similar to my Taiyo DVD+R MIJ Sony 8x from Sears (Yuden000 T02) for those. My Sears MIJ Sony 8x DVD-R were Sony 08D1 and pretty decent media.

I saw 8x Sony DVD-R at CircuitCity within the last 2 weeks. It was MIT so I passed. Have also seen 8x MIJ Sony DVD+/-Rs at K-Mart but at ridiculously high prices. And they refused to pricematch. K-Mart is just pitiful.

Did you know that Sony makes Legacy blank DVD's?

nero read out said Manufacture ID: SONY04D1

Did you know that Sony makes Legacy blank DVD's?

nero read out said Manufacture ID: SONY04D1

I did not know that. Who sells those?

It's not exactly appropriate for this thread, but OD had a $10 off $20 purchase coupon in yesterday's paper that is still good today (it was only for yesterday & today).

They don't seem to have other sales this week (I even checked online, but the only ad was that one with the coupon).. so I guess it's not really that much of a deal.. But I might go into my store to make sure (they seem to once in a while have sales other than the main ones).

Nice deal mattack. I for one appreciate you posting it.

I did not know that. Who sells those?


My brother sent some silver printable ones over with SIL and out of curiosity, I checked who they were manufactured by.
I don't know where he purchased them.
Will have to ask.

Speaking of DVD media, what is the latest consensus for longevity?
At first we all heard the 100 years pitch, however for the past several years it seems we may get 10 years before serious degradation.

If you can get to OfficeMax today--these are on sale.

Verbatim 50-Pack 16x DVD-R

No Rebates Required: Save $22 Instantly!
Final Price After Instant Savings $12.99!
Reg $34.99
Offer Valid: 3/11-4/11.

Item#21016927


http://www.officemax.com/max/solutio...OID=-536895600

50 discs for $13 ($0.26 each) is getting to be the standard sale price it seems, at least for the major brands.

The gf has been "burning" the midnight oil with the $8 per hundred Nexxtech CD-Rs I got, and no failures yet. They're mostly for jackasses at her work that are constantly asking her to make them backups, so I wasn't going to spend much.*

*Though one guy did buy her a 100 pack of Verbatims and 50 cases for burning a few for him. Why can't more people be like that? :confused:

I had a $20 off $40 coupon from Office Depot that arrived in the mail a few days earlier so it made this purchase especially good. I bought three spindles and a filler item for just over $20 plus tax.

E

If you can get to OfficeMax today--these are on sale.

Verbatim 50-Pack 16x DVD-R

No Rebates Required: Save $22 Instantly!
Final Price After Instant Savings $12.99!
Reg $34.99
Offer Valid: 3/11-4/11.

Item#21016927


http://www.officemax.com/max/solutio...OID=-536895600If the stores don't have the same sale, don't expect them to match their online price, at least it hasn't worked for me. BTW, your link is broken.
DVD+R (http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&prodBlockOID=1611316219&expansionOID=-1610650057)
DVD-R (http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&prodBlockOID=1611316220&expansionOID=-1610650059)

I took a copy of the online item page with the sale price dates included to the store and my OfficeMax (Pasadena, CA) did a price match for me and I was able to use the OD coupon.

(The site has changed since I posted the original link as underneath the product description, it did say price valid 3/11-4/11.)

My local OfficeMax routinely fails to change their shelf tags to reflect Sale Prices. They have never failed to match their own Online Sale Prices for me. YMMV.

My local OfficeMax routinely fails to change their shelf tags to reflect Sale Prices. They have never failed to match their own Online Sale Prices for me. YMMV.My mileage certainly has; perhaps I'll try a different store, or at least a different salesperson.

* 50pk TDK -R/+R $12 at Circuit City (24c per blank)
* 15pk Dynex DVD+R DL with jewel cases $17 at Best Buy
* 25pk Verbatim "Movie Reels" +R/-R $9 at Best Buy (if you like the Movie Reel design)
* 100pk office depot branded +r/-r $25 at Office Depot (25c per blank)

(If you like the Panasonic ES15, just $100 @ Best Buy!!!!)

Thanks heaps, hoops! : )

* 50pk TDK -R/+R $12 at Circuit City (24c per blank)
* 15pk Dynex DVD+R DL with jewel cases $17 at Best Buy
* 25pk Verbatim "Movie Reels" +R/-R $9 at Best Buy (if you like the Movie Reel design)
* 100pk office depot branded +r/-r $25 at Office Depot (25c per blank)

(If you like the Panasonic ES15, just $100 @ Best Buy!!!!)


Thanks, I just ordered a few packs of the Dynex Dual Layers disc. Thats the cheapest I've ever seen them. I've had very good luck with Dynex DL's.

Jon

Sweet! Where are those Dynex DL manufactured Jon? Just curious.

Be careful with non-Verbatim DL. It's probably Ritek, and depending on your burner you may or may not get decent results.

It's a very good deal but DL is a totally different beast than SL media, and pretty much no one except Verbatim has gotten down consistently producing reliable, sturdy DL media.

Edit: Interesting, Videohelp shows Dynex as being either MKM (=Verbatim) or Ritek. So it's a crapshoot, it's either excellent media or iffy media. I do notice most of the reports of MKM date from 2005...
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=dynex&dvdmediadvdridsearch=&type=3&size=8.5&dvdburnspeed=All&order=Name&hits=25&search=Search+or+List+Media

jm, I was hoping maybe some of those Dynex were Singapore made in same factory as Verbatim. I have found the Verbatim DL on sale at OfficeMax for as low as $15 for a spindle of 10. I bought 3 spindles. But I wouldn't mind another quality source of DL and was hoping maybe we could luck up with these Dynex.

My OfficeMax has been out of the Verbatim DL 10 packs for weeks, so I asked the manager to price match their 3 packs, which were probably double the cost/disk. So, they charged me $1.50 apiece which were $4.50 per 3 pack.

Sweet! Where are those Dynex DL manufactured Jon? Just curious.


I have not received the new shipment yet, so I can't identify them until they arrive. But the last batch of Dynex were Ritek-D01-001. Up until 6 months ago I only used Verbatim DL's but these Dynex have performed flawlessly so far. No coasters and the disc I first burned are still playable.

Jon

Thanks jon. What dvd burner do you use?

I have not received the new shipment yet, so I can't identify them until they arrive. But the last batch of Dynex were Ritek-D01-001. Up until 6 months ago I only used Verbatim DL's but these Dynex have performed flawlessly so far. No coasters and the disc I first burned are still playable.

Jon

Just an update. I received my new batch of Dynex, from BB, these are Ricoh JPN ID D01 Rev 067.

BTW, my drive is cheap Lite-On SHW-160P6S.

Jon

Thanks jon. I have a Lite-On SHM-165P6SX external burner in addition to my NEC ND3500AG Internal. DOes anyone know the quality of Richo JPN media? Isn't that Riteks upper level media name?

Starting this Sunday (tomorrow) at Staples, the 60pk Playaz (Playo) DVD-R/+R will be $5 after a $22 Easy-Rebate (can be submitted online, without photocopies or upc cutting). Not sure how many rebates per person. (The previous Playo rebate that expires today was 10 per person).

Starting this Sunday (tomorrow) at Staples, the 60pk Playaz (Playo) DVD-R/+R will be $5 after a $22 Easy-Rebate (can be submitted online, without photocopies or upc cutting). Not sure how many rebates per person. (The previous Playo rebate that expires today was 10 per person).

I went there earlier today the rebate receipt says 10 per person. They had quite a few of them left. I am not sure if I'm missing something on these? I don't run any post-burn tests, but recording-wise, they are as good as any b-grade media I have used.

Also on sale:
* 25pk sony -r/+r $7 at Circuit City
* 50pk sony -r/+r $15 at staples
* 100pk sony -r/+r $25 at staples
* 50pk maxell -r/+r $13 at office depot and at best buy
* 50pk verbatim 16x -r/+r $15 at office max


Rewriteables
* 15pk Maxell -Rw/+RW $8 at Office Depot
* 1pk TDK -RW/+RW in tall slim slip case (whatever they are called) 99c at Walgreens with coupon


DLs
* 25pk Office Depot brand +R DL $40

Hoops, I couldn't help myself. I was in Staples and saw the Playo's at $4.88 for 60 after Online Rebate and I had to buy them! It is a little less than 9 cents per disc after tax. I told myself I was buying them as "throwaways" and for the "moochers" who always seem to want a DVD but never offer ya a buck for it or buy ya a spindle of media. I will use these for those purposes, but in reality I just wanted to buy some more DVD blanks! Somebody help me, I am outta control!

It may have been reported before, but the Media Code on the 16x DVD-Rs was MCC03RG20, and the Manufacturer was listed as Mitsubishi Chemical Company. Made in China, so who knows?

Shred,

I don't care what the media says. I've made a plethora of Playo discs that have been passed around from household to household for my gf's family and not one failure yet on playback or on a burn. Pretty robust little discs!*

*These were the 50-packs from a while back ( :eek: $2 for 50 discs!!!) not the current 60 packs.

Glad to know they have worked well for you spyder...... The Media code is the same as Verbatim 16x DVD-R. I will be burning my first Playo in a few minutes. : )

Today, April 27, I was in Coronado Mall here in Albuquerque. I stopped by the Radio Shack to briefly peruse the video area. They had a small, delicious-looking HDTV, but I just sighed over it, not planning to invest until DVDRs can record HD and then I subscribe to th service via cable.

As I was leaving, I noted the "Manager's Special" table and on it, some spindles of 25 Sony DVD-R 16x blanks, and they were asking only $6.97. Without hesitation, I bought the two they had on the table. I usually pay from $25-$35 for a 50 spindle, depending on where I shop (usually K-Mart, but they're easy to get to on they bus), so this was a terrific deal for me as I really like Sonys. I accidently brought home one of the small sales notes that alerted customers to the sale, and it says "Magnavox 25-Pack", but the sales fellow had no trouble ringing them up as Sonys for $6.97 each. Sometimes Radio Shack can really surprise :)

debby,50s for around 13,14 bucks on sale is the going rate for quality stuff like Verbs,you are way overpaying at 25,35 bucks.

Wow. 50 cents per disc! That's what I pay for DVD-RAM! :eek:

Even $7 for 25 turns out to 28 cents per, which is still too high. :(

DebbyS, your price of 28 cents ea. is pretty good...Spyder gets a little cranky when he has to pay more that 6 cents ea.! :D

Wow. 50 cents per disc! That's what I pay for DVD-RAM!

Umm, where do you get DVD-RAM for 50 cents apiece?

DebbyS, your price of 28 cents ea. is pretty good...Spyder gets a little cranky when he has to pay more that 6 cents ea.! :D
25 cents is "pretty good". Any more and you may as well just go TY. You're right though, 6-8 cents is my average.

Umm, where do you get DVD-RAM for 50 cents apiece?
Walmart. Clearance. When they go on sale, I take 'em all...every last one. Just picked up a bunch of the smaller, 2.8G RAM discs (for camcorders) at 50 cents each as well this week, which is an absolute steal. :)

Sams Club just reduced the Verbatim 1-2x DVD-RW 30 packs to 14.97.
As many of you know, this is class 1 media.

I suspect it is being cleared out.

Sams Club just reduced the Verbatim 1-2x DVD-RW 30 packs to 14.97.


Any idea if those are made in Taiwan, or Singapore?

Only the Singapore work for me, and I've been buying/returning stacks and stacks of Taiwan for a year now hoping to hit some Singapore.

Made in Taiwan, 2005.
Mfr ID: MCC 01RW11n9

Class 1 media (see link below)
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Nero DVD Speed 4.51.1
Quality Scores >90%

Recorded in Pioneer DVR-220S,
Sony RDR-GX7, and JVC DR-M100S


Any idea if those are made in Taiwan, or Singapore?

Only the Singapore work for me, and I've been buying/returning stacks and stacks of Taiwan for a year now hoping to hit some Singapore.

Ooooooh! Lots and lots of Memorex on sale this week. Everyone stock up while you can. :(

25 Sony for $6.99. Sears price matched me and took 10% off, the best part was the discs were MIJ. I have been told to stay away from MIT at all costs unless you are not keeping the media long term.


Today, April 27, I was in Coronado Mall here in Albuquerque. I stopped by the Radio Shack to briefly peruse the video area. They had a small, delicious-looking HDTV, but I just sighed over it, not planning to invest until DVDRs can record HD and then I subscribe to th service via cable.

As I was leaving, I noted the "Manager's Special" table and on it, some spindles of 25 Sony DVD-R 16x blanks, and they were asking only $6.97. Without hesitation, I bought the two they had on the table. I usually pay from $25-$35 for a 50 spindle, depending on where I shop (usually K-Mart, but they're easy to get to on they bus), so this was a terrific deal for me as I really like Sonys. I accidently brought home one of the small sales notes that alerted customers to the sale, and it says "Magnavox 25-Pack", but the sales fellow had no trouble ringing them up as Sonys for $6.97 each. Sometimes Radio Shack can really surprise :)

Hoops, I couldn't help myself. I was in Staples and saw the Playo's at $4.88 for 60 after Online Rebate and I had to buy them! It is a little less than 9 cents per disc after tax. I told myself I was buying them as "throwaways" and for the "moochers" who always seem to want a DVD but never offer ya a buck for it or buy ya a spindle of media. I will use these for those purposes, but in reality I just wanted to buy some more DVD blanks! Somebody help me, I am outta control!

It may have been reported before, but the Media Code on the 16x DVD-Rs was MCC03RG20, and the Manufacturer was listed as Mitsubishi Chemical Company. Made in China, so who knows?

The Playo deal and rebate offer continues this week at the same price from 4/22 to 5/5/07, --- ten spindles total but u can buy them and submit them at different times....

(This week's paper didn't have many electronics ads)

I was in my local Sam's Club today and they had 50 packs of 8X -R Verbatim discs marked down from $12.88 last week to $8.81 now. From what I've read on other forums, I think it varies from location to location as to the availability and mark down price on the 8X's.

I just checked. The 8x Verbs are $8.81 at my local Sam's Club also. I am gonna have a buddy grab me 2-3 50 packs.

My Sams Club is all sold out of the 1-2x Verb DVD-RW 30 packs!
Last week they had 8 cartons left (6-30 packs per carton).
They did not last long at $14.97 each.

Sams replaced the Verbs with 1-2x Sony DVD-RW 25 packs.
2-25 packs bundled, for $30.
RITEK media unfortunately.


Sams Club just reduced the Verbatim 1-2x DVD-RW 30 packs to 14.97.
As many of you know, this is class 1 media.

I suspect it is being cleared out.

Made in Taiwan, 2005.
Mfr ID: MCC 01RW11n9

Class 1 media (see link below)
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Nero DVD Speed 4.51.1
Quality Scores >90%

Recorded in Pioneer DVR-220S,
Sony RDR-GX7, and JVC DR-M100S

MY Sam's had a 50 pack for $29.95 of the Verbs, so I picked it up. Not a bad price either. Just wish they had some Verb DLs, at a good price.

MY Sam's had a 50 pack for $29.95 of the Verbs, so I picked it up. Not a bad price either. Just wish they had some Verb DLs, at a good price.
60 cents per?!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek:

60 cents per?!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Granted, not as good as $.50 per, but way cheaper than I have seen them elsewhere. I just wish they would record at up to 4x, like Sonys.

Granted, not as good as $.50 per, but way cheaper than I have seen them elsewhere. I just wish they would record at up to 4x, like Sonys.
If you just wait, best buy often has verbatim 50 packs for $12.99.

If you just wait, best buy often has verbatim 50 packs for $12.99.

We're talking about -RWs, not -Rs. I pick up 50 packs of Verbatim -Rs for $9.95, on sale at Ink Stop, about once a month.

Sony DVD-RW 25 packs on sale at Staples, for $12.99

Not sure if they are class 1 media.
Sometimes they are at Staples.

More frequently they have been RICOHJPN11 media.

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=1&storeId=10001&noredir=true&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=130508&cmArea=SC3:CG104:DP2096:CL142442

I prefer 1-2x -RW media.
The 4x media does not work in my Sony GX7 recorders.

Granted, not as good as $.50 per, but way cheaper than I have seen them elsewhere. I just wish they would record at up to 4x, like Sonys.

I've only used the Sony -RWs so far, and haven't had any trouble with them yet, but I haven't re-used many of them. I did pick up the Verb -RWs from Sams, and will give them a try. I don't think I have seen Verb -RWs on sale anywhere, in fact, I don't recall seeing them period, except at Sams.

Sony DVD-RW 25 packs on sale at Staples, for $12.99

Not sure if they are class 1 media.
Sometimes they are at Staples.

More frequently they have been RICOHJPN11 media.

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=1&storeId=10001&noredir=true&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=130508&cmArea=SC3:CG104:DP2096:CL142442

I prefer 1-2x -RW media.
The 4x media does not work in my Sony GX7 recorders.

I saw those too! I had used them in the past without problems on Panasonic ES20.

You can also take the newspaper ad to your other favorite chain-store retailers and ask for a price match, and in some cases you can get it for less if they have a 110% price-matching guarantee or something like that.


They also have a 50pk of slim-line jewel cases for $8 and a 100pk of Sony -R/+R for $25. I haven't checked the other stores yet....

Sony DVD-RW 25 packs on sale at Staples, for $12.99

Not sure if they are class 1 media.
Sometimes they are at Staples.

More frequently they have been RICOHJPN11 media.

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=1&storeId=10001&noredir=true&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=130508&cmArea=SC3:CG104:DP2096:CL142442

I prefer 1-2x -RW media.
The 4x media does not work in my Sony GX7 recorders.

I got some. they are RITEKW01, same as other Sony discs from Taiwan I have bought. They've always worked well for me. Thanks for the heads-up.

If you just wait, best buy often has verbatim 50 packs for $12.99.

Or the TDK 50 pack DVD-R/+R at CC for $10.99 this past week.

Sony DVD-RW 25 packs on sale at Staples, for $12.99

Not sure if they are class 1 media.
Sometimes they are at Staples.

More frequently they have been RICOHJPN11 media.

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=1&storeId=10001&noredir=true&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=130508&cmArea=SC3:CG104:DP2096:CL142442

I prefer 1-2x -RW media.
The 4x media does not work in my Sony GX7 recorders.

I presume this implies that the Sony DVD-RWs are 4x?

This is kind of misleading at staples' web site:
As DVD media speeds continue to improve, Staples will always ship the newest speeds. New speeds are backward compatible with older speed drives.

As we know, >2x DVD-RWs are not backward compatible with 1-2x drives.

Oh, dear MULTI-COLORED Fujis, where for art thou??? :(

Anyone?

crabboy, did you buy your -RW media (RITEKW01) from B&M location?
These are 1-2x media.

I was told by Staples online rep the Sony -RW media were 4x media.
Probably same 4x media as sold under Office Depot brand... RITEKW04.
Can anyone confirm?

RITEKW01 and RITEKW04 media is class 2 media.
Still very good.

In contrast, Sam's Club Verb -RW media is class 1 media.
But it is selling out fast.


I got some. they are RITEKW01, same as other Sony discs from Taiwan I have bought. They've always worked well for me. Thanks for the heads-up.


I presume this implies that the Sony DVD-RWs are 4x?

This is kind of misleading at staples' web site:
As DVD media speeds continue to improve, Staples will always ship the newest speeds. New speeds are backward compatible with older speed drives.

As we know, >2x DVD-RWs are not backward compatible with 1-2x drives.

crabboy, did you buy your -RW media (RITEKW01) from B&M location?
These are 1-2x media.

I was told by Staples online rep the Sony -RW media were 4x media.
Probably same 4x media as sold under Office Depot brand... RITEKW04.
Can anyone confirm?



Nope. The Sony RITEKW01 -RW discs that I bought at the Staples store in Oroville, California are 1x-2x. I don't use them in a hard drive machine, so that's fine with me. I didn't look at all the packages in detail, but I assume they (4 or 5 packs) were the same. Perhaps they're clearing them out?

(BTW, I have some of those OD brand. They work well for me also)

Nope. The Sony RITEKW01 -RW discs that I bought at the Staples store in Oroville, California are 1x-2x. I don't use them in a hard drive machine, so that's fine with me. I didn't look at all the packages in detail, but I assume they (4 or 5 packs) were the same. Perhaps they're clearing them out?

That sale happens occasionally at Staples. I don't know if it's predictable but I do recall seeing it 3-4 times before. I forgot what they have on the shelf right now, but the previous Sony -RW I got from there are 2x.

* 50pk Maxell DVD-R/+R for $10 at Staples (20c per).
* 50pk TDK DVD-R/+R for $13 at Walgreens (26c per). Made in Taiwan the ones I saw
* some clearance sales of single or 5pk write-once media at Walgreens. Not particularly exciting prices though, unless you only need a few blanks.
* more later on

MicroCenter's email ad has a spotlight on Windata brand (never heard of it) of 8x DVD+R DL (dual layer): two 10-packs for $15 (75c per blank dvd).

Right now at Microcenter
* 20 (2 ten-packs) of Windata 8x DVD+R Dual Layer (DL) blanks for $15 (comes out to 75c per blank). I am not familiar with this dvd brand.

Right now at Fry's
* 50pk Memorex color slim cd jewel cases for $5 after mail-in rebate ($5)
* 15pk GQ 4x DVD+R DL $16.50, no rebate
* 320 cd wallet $15

Starting Sunday at Staples:
* 100pk Sony DVd-r or DVD+R for $25

Best Buy has Verbatim +R DLs, 20 for $29.99, through Saturday. I believe that is as good a price as I have ever seen on Verb DLs, so I'll pick some up!

Office Depot has the 25 packs of DVD+/-RWs for $8. IIRC, they're 4x nowadays. (I still have a bunch unused the last time I got 2x ones, and need a new drive first anyways.)

Office Depot has the 25 packs of DVD+/-RWs for $8. IIRC, they're 4x nowadays. (I still have a bunch unused the last time I got 2x ones, and need a new drive first anyways.)

What brand?

house brand.. (guess I meant to say "their")

Sorry for a newbie question... are DL discs not as long-lasting (for archival) as single layer discs? I want to save off some videos and pictures for archival. Thanks.

There's a lot of speculation that DL discs aren't as good for archiving-- they're more complicated to make, very few companies make good DL discs (read: "Only Verbatim makes DL discs truly worth buying"), some burners don't do as well, they're slower, etc...

I'm not sure if there is any real scientific data to back up their longevity, etc.

For the week ending Saturday June 9, 2007:
* 100pk Maxell DVD-R/DVD+R for $20 at Office Depot
* 50pk Phillips 16x dvd+r or dvd-r $11 at Circuit City
* 100pk Sony DVd-R/+r $25 at Best Buy
* TDK 15pk Lightscribe DVD+R for $10 at Office Max
* TDk 50pk 16x dvd-r/+r for $15 at Office Max
* Buy 1 Get 1 results in 200 OfficeMax brand slim jewel cases for $30 (15c per) at Office Max

There's a lot of speculation that DL discs aren't as good for archiving-- they're more complicated to make, very few companies make good DL discs (read: "Only Verbatim makes DL discs truly worth buying"), some burners don't do as well, they're slower, etc...

I'm not sure if there is any real scientific data to back up their longevity, etc.
I'd also be concerned that, in the future, you couldn't find a dual-focus SD-DVD laser device to play them?

I'd also be concerned that, in the future, you couldn't find a dual-focus SD-DVD laser device to play them?

I know very little about dual/double layer dvds, what is the playback compatibility of those using recent dvd players (eg players from the last 2-4 years)?

For me, the price of a single layer dvd is so low comprared to dual/double layer, that i prefer to split a title into two dvds.

I'd also be concerned that, in the future, you couldn't find a dual-focus SD-DVD laser device to play them?

Since most commercial DVDs are dual layer, I doubt that will be a problem, as long as SD players, and HD with SD compatibility players, are available. Of course, at some point, they will abandon SD red lasers altogether.

Yeah, all commercial players MUST play dual-layer discs (I don't necessarily mean DVD+R DL, but commercially produced videos at least).. when/if the day comes that units won't play DL, I bet they're not playing SL either.

Since most commercial DVDs are dual layer, I doubt that will be a problem, as long as SD players, and HD with SD compatibility players, are available. Of course, at some point, they will abandon SD red lasers altogether.

From a dvd player perspective, are commercially pressed DL DVDs treated technically the same way as user-burned DVD +DL or -DL?

The OD DVD-rw 4x media is made by RITEK.
Not as good as Verb DVD-RW 2x media, but adequate.

This media records without any issues on my
--Pio 220s
--jvc drm100 (which is very picky about media)
--pan EH55
--Liteon 5005s

Of course, they do not work on my Sony GX7 recorders.
No 4x -RW media works on them however.


Office Depot has the 25 packs of DVD+/-RWs for $8. IIRC, they're 4x nowadays. (I still have a bunch unused the last time I got 2x ones, and need a new drive first anyways.)

The OD DVD-rw 4x media is made by RITEK.
Not as good as Verb DVD-RW 2x media, but adequate.



They have worked well for me on my Panny ES-10 and ES-15, as well as my Iomega and LG outboard drives.