At Office Depot, today (Sunday,) and tomorrow, 100 Maxell -Rs or +Rs, $9.99. Tuesday through Saturday, $12.99. $.10 per DVD is so cheap that I just might have to pick some up. Before I read around here that they weren't so good, I went through 100, with only one coaster. That's awfully tempting...
I went to my local OD, looking for these, but found the sale was for the 50 pack spindle @ $9.99, instead of the 100. Bought'em anyways, I 've never had problems using Maxell-yet. :o

"Data" or "Video" format does not matter, it is still a DVD-RAM disk. As long as the equipment can format a disk you are good to go.Thanks. That's what I figured. I bought a pack to try 'em.

I pulled one out of each box, and the labels pretty much looked exactly the same.

They had a few more boxes, so maybe I'll grab them if I get back there before they're gone. I've never seen them there until now, so maybe it's a one-time thing.

I went to my local OD, looking for these, but found the sale was for the 50 pack spindle @ $9.99, instead of the 100. Bought'em anyways, I 've never had problems using Maxell-yet. :o

Well, the add definitely says 100 pack spindle, but they probably wouldn't have honored it, if it was a mis-print. Thanks for the info - now I don't regret not going for them in the least, since I can get Verbs for that price often enough.

OD $8.99 25 pack dvd+/-rw
seems to me that their sale price has gone up 2 bucks...

I needed to buy some more Taiyo-Yuden disks and would like to note that Supermediastore.com is having a coupon special till the end of October that enables purchase of a 100 spindle of T-Y Premium 8X DVD-R for only $29.99 (free S/H). I picked up 2 spindles and thought I would pass the coupon info along for those who were out shopping. The coupon code is listed on their site for the 8X premium disks.

Office Max has 100-pack Verbatim 16X +/-R for $24.99 and 50-pack for $14.99. Media code?

Pretty much all Verbatim media is currently using the MCC media codes (MCC03RG20 and MCC04..whatever, can't remember :) ), the question is who makes it, CMC or Prodisc, which can be told by the font on the spindle (serif=CMC=better, sans serif=Prodisc=worse), and which "batch" is it if made by CMC (inner hub stamped with MAPA [DVD-R] or PAPA [DVD+R] = good, MAP6 [DVD-R] or PAP6 [DVD+R] = questionable).

Depending on your OM store, there's probably a mixture, although in my experiences it's getting more difficult to find CMC-made media, especially DVD-R (Although all CMC DVD-R I've bought in the last 6 months has been the MAP6 garbage that none of my burners like, YMMV on both what you find and if your burners work with it)

Pretty much all Verbatim media is currently using the MCC media codes (MCC03RG20 and MCC04..whatever, can't remember :) ), the question is who makes it, CMC or Prodisc, which can be told by the font on the spindle (serif=CMC=better, sans serif=Prodisc=worse), and which "batch" is it if made by CMC (inner hub stamped with MAPA [DVD-R] or PAPA [DVD+R] = good, MAP6 [DVD-R] or PAP6 [DVD+R] = questionable).

Depending on your OM store, there's probably a mixture, although in my experiences it's getting more difficult to find CMC-made media, especially DVD-R (Although all CMC DVD-R I've bought in the last 6 months has been the MAP6 garbage that none of my burners like, YMMV on both what you find and if your burners work with it)

From the peanut gallery, it is very hard to keep up with which brands are currently "good", and whether the differences are worth worrying about. When I bought my first batch of Maxells in January, the discussion in this thread was around MIJ vs. MIT, and I went to Sears to pick up the MIJ, which were supposed to be worth a special trip to find for as compared the MIT (or maybe I have that backwards). Then, some months later, Maxells weren't that good anymore.

Until today, I had never read anything bad about Verbatims, but now there is discussion of CMC versus Prodisc manufactured Verbatims. And I've read conflicting info on which is best.

Arrgh. Yikes. Why can't we have some consistency in DVD media? Well, I guess there is some consistency in that TY seems to be highly regarded, but you have to order those online and I haven't found pricing like I can get on Maxells and Verbatims.

Chris

Verbatim +R DLs, 20@$29.99, at Best Buy.

I will be checking out the Verb -Rs at OM. I have used several spindles of MAP6s, so far with no problems, on my Pio 640.

Arrgh. Yikes. Why can't we have some consistency in DVD media? Well, I guess there is some consistency in that TY seems to be highly regarded, but you have to order those online and I haven't found pricing like I can get on Maxells and Verbatims.

ChrisYou get what you pay for with T-Y Premium. Stay away from the value-line.

Pretty much all Verbatim media is currently using the MCC media codes (MCC03RG20 and MCC04..whatever, can't remember :) ), the question is who makes it, CMC or Prodisc, which can be told by the font on the spindle (serif=CMC=better, sans serif=Prodisc=worse), and which "batch" is it if made by CMC (inner hub stamped with MAPA [DVD-R] or PAPA [DVD+R] = good, MAP6 [DVD-R] or PAP6 [DVD+R] = questionable).

Depending on your OM store, there's probably a mixture, although in my experiences it's getting more difficult to find CMC-made media, especially DVD-R (Although all CMC DVD-R I've bought in the last 6 months has been the MAP6 garbage that none of my burners like, YMMV on both what you find and if your burners work with it)You have me very confused by your post. MCC is the code for Mitsubishi Chemical media which is tier 1 media. CMC, for CMC magnetics is tier 4 garbage, Prodisc media is tier 2 media - decent. see http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

If a disk has a media ID of MCC, I would expect it is made by Mitsubishi chemical and is tier 1.

Verbatim +R DLs, 20@$29.99, at Best Buy.

I will be checking out the Verb -Rs at OM. I have used several spindles of MAP6s, so far with no problems, on my Pio 640.

I bought some Verb -R at Office Max today. MID is MCC03RG20.

What does that tell us? I see that is in the 'first class media' section at http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm.

Chris

I bought some Verb -R at Office Max today. MID is MCC03RG20.

What does that tell us? I see that is in the 'first class media' section at http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm.

Chris
Those are "keepers"...the real deal!

thru Oct 27 - Office Depot Weekly Special (http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/Default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&pagenumber=14&listingid=-2092563308)

Maxell 16X DVD-R Media 100-PK $22.99 253008

Maxell 16X DVD+R Media 100-PK $22.99 258560

The Digitalfaq guide is unfortunately quite outdated-- it was last updated in November 2006. A lot can, and does, change. It shouldn't be considered absolute gospel (unless/until it's updated) although it is an excellent starting point and about 85% of what it says still basically applies (This isn't a flame on the webmaster, just stating that it's not up to date and things have changed). And all of this is really complicated to keep up with.

Verbatim no longer makes their own discs-- at least not discs we can buy in normal stores here in the US, I don't know about other countries. They outsource their discs from 2 companies-- Prodisc and CMC. Thankfully Verbatim has VERY strict quality control and in general the discs are much, much better than anything else Prodisc or CMC makes (They basically license Verbatim's disc manufacturing equipment and dye for use in their factories). The CMC-made Verbatims are considered better than the Prodisc made Verbatims, in general, although the biggest issue with Prodisc is they're variable in quality- some are excellent, some not so much.

So, basically, don't worry too much about CMC-made Verbatim (with media codes starting with MCC)-- it's mostly excellent stuff. Discs with actual CMC media codes (like CMC MAG E01) are still to be avoided as it's still pretty much garbage.

Check cdfreaks.com's forums for pretty in-depth discussions about media, if you really want to go nuts...

I bought some Verb -R at Office Max today. MID is MCC03RG20.

What does that tell us? I see that is in the 'first class media' section at http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm.

Chris

If you want to know exactly what the discs are, check for a code stamped in the inner plastic clear ring (not as part of the purple dye area). It will either start with "MAPA", "MAP6", or it will be a series of 2 sets of 8 random letters/numbers with a "-" in the middle.

The "MAP" discs are made by CMC. In my experience "MAPA" is impeccable quality and nearly as good as TY, if not better. MAP6 are more questionable and it seems to depend on the burner as to how well they will burn. Some people swear they're fine and some, like me, have problems getting anything considered "Acceptable", especially from what you'd expect from Verbatims. The discs with a "-" in the middle are made by Prodisc-- they're still decent but more variable in quality than the CMCs, but should still work fine for most uses and still be better than any Maxell, Memorex, Imation, TDK, etc. (Good Prodiscs can be almost as good as the CMC, bad Prodiscs are scary)

If it doesn't have one of these 3 patterns in that stamped code you're looking in the wrong place. :)

I bought some Verb -R at Office Max today. MID is MCC03RG20.

What does that tell us? I see that is in the 'first class media' section at http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm.

Chris

Damn! Thanks for the info. I'll get one, maybe two... :D

I needed to buy some more Taiyo-Yuden disks and would like to note that Supermediastore.com is having a coupon special till the end of October that enables purchase of a 100 spindle of T-Y Premium 8X DVD-R for only $29.99 (free S/H). I picked up 2 spindles....

Have you gotten these yet, and were they ok? I looked on SMS last evening and saw a couple of more recent horrible reviews for this media.

Have you gotten these yet, and were they ok? I looked on SMS last evening and saw a couple of more recent horrible reviews for this media.The EMAIL said they have been shipped, I should have them within the week. I tend to discount a few bad comments when there have been so many positive ones. I have read the claims that the disks are now "thinner". Easy enough to check the weight of an older one I have against the new ones I receive. I'll see if there is any validity to the claim.

...Easy enough to check the weight of an older one I have against the new ones I receive...

People with electronic scales at home worry me. ;)

I received my new spindles of T-Y Premium 8X DVD-R today. They seem identical to the previous batch of T-Y Premium 8X I bought about 9 months ago. Comparing a stack of 25 disks to each other, the stack of new T-Y are about 1/4 of a disk thickness lower than the stack of older T-Y. By weight, the new T-Y are about 1.7% lighter than the old T-Y. I don't consider this to be a significant difference. Not somthing you would detect by comparing two single disks side-by-side.

I received my new spindles of T-Y Premium 8X DVD-R today. They seem identical to the previous batch of T-Y Premium 8X I bought about 9 months ago. Comparing a stack of 25 disks to each other, the stack of new T-Y are about 1/4 of a disk thickness lower than the stack of older T-Y. By weight, the new T-Y are about 1.7% lighter than the old T-Y. I don't consider this to be a significant difference. Not somthing you would detect by comparing two single disks side-by-side.

I first read that as 1/4 of a stack lower and wondered why you thought that wasn't significant. ;)

Good to hear that maybe it was just a bad batch that people had problems with-- where did you order these from? Definitely keep us updated with how they burn. I might be tempted to pick up a few hundred as a "final" order and hope they last time some new gold standard comes along.

-- where did you order these from? Definitely keep us updated with how they burn. I might be tempted to pick up a few hundred as a "final" order and hope they last time some new gold standard comes along.supermediastore.com
Their $5.00 coupon code expires tomorrow. There is also a rebate offer so you can get a 100 spindle of T-Y 8x Premium for $25 s/h free. At that price, for that quality, why buy anything else.

From the Novemeber 4, Sunday flyers:
Office Max
Magnavox 16x DVD+/-R 100 pack spindle $24.99 (CMC Magnetics?)
Magnavox 16x DVD+/-R 50 pack spindle $13.99

Office Depot
Office Depot Brand 16x DVD+/-R 100 pack $22.99 (Ritek?)
Ativa DVD+RW 25 Pack $9.99 (who makes these? CMC Magnetic?)
Maxell 16x DVD+/-R 50 pack $12.99

Circuit City
HP 16x DVD+/-R 50 pack $12.99

Best Buy
Sony DVD+/-R 100 pack $22.99 (speed ?)

supermediastore.com
Their $5.00 coupon code expires tomorrow. There is also a rebate offer so you can get a 100 spindle of T-Y 8x Premium for $25 s/h free. At that price, for that quality, why buy anything else.

Got my 100 pack. Man, they ship FAST!!! Ordered on 10/28 at 11pm, UPS guy delivered 10/30 at 1pm. That's only 38 hours, from order to delivery! $5 rebate already sent. My only compaint is that the cakebox bottom is not very user-friendly and they should put about 2 of the foam washers atop the discs to prevent floating. Good deal.

Verbatim DVD+/-Rs on sale at BestBuy for $12.99 per spindle of 50. Runs thru 11-17.

Nov/23-24 only Radio Shack has 50 count pack of Memorex DVD-/+R (16x) on sale for $9.99.

Memorex tends to get a bad rep - but at this price I thought I try a pack from my local Radio Shack.

Using DVD Identifier - I got this -

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [004]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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Mitsubishi are ranked as 1st Class media at -
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Keep in mind they're likely to be lower-grade MCC discs, or possibly even fakes. Media ID codes can be faked quite easily.

Do you have any "real" Verbatim discs to verify hub codes and the like to see if they're really MCC discs? Can you post what letters/numbers are stamped into the disc in the inner clear portion of the hub?

(this would be huge news if it's really MCC media but given Memorex has been garbage for many, many years I doubt it-- it's most likely "value line" sort of stuff that doesn't pass Mitsubishi's QC enough to be sold as Verbatim, or a fake media ID)

Huge news indeed, and I wonder if this might be one result from Imation buying Memorex about a year ago... maybe an upgrade in quality!?

I have had Memorex DVD made by MCC in the past, but they were 4x. They were quite good. So good in fact, they had me wondering why so many people hated Memowrecks, but that was before I realized Memowrecks just uses whoever/whenever to make their Discs.

Can you post what letters/numbers are stamped into the disc in the inner clear portion of the hub?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/UnknownVT/DVD/MemorexDVDhub.jpg

The 6105 526 +R is common to 3 DVDs I checked,
the rest of the string E E 16344 in this case, seem to be different for each disc.

The reversed characters on the outer silver (shown grey) part of the hub was very hard to spot - in fact I didn't see them until they were partly revealed in my first attempt at a scan - I then rotated the DVD so that the whole string could be shown - these seem to be the same for the 3 DVDs I checked.

At best, Memo-Dreks are still a crapshoot. And what do you get when you shoot crap? The same amounts of sh!t that you had before, just spread out into an even bigger mess. :mad: TY all the way!*

*With the exception of the 6 cent Playos for assinine people that don't appreciate your time, costs, and efforts. :(

That doesn't look like any Verbatim (=true MCC) media I've ever seen before. Is there a country of origin on the packaging? Perhaps it's some of the newer Indian media making its way into the US market.

Thanks for posting the scan, I don't think these are true good Taiwan-made MCCs. At best they're Indian made MCCs which are considered probably decent but inferior to the Taiwan MCCs; at worse they're fakes.

Edited to add: From a bit of digging the codes seem to match the general pattern of Made in India discs, which are considered lesser grade. So while they're probably better than the average Memorex disc (which as long as it's mostly shiny and sort of round they pass quality-control ;) ) they're not as good as made in Taiwan Verbatims. Source: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/mbi-code-verbatim-discs-whats-goin-184434/

That doesn't look like any Verbatim (=true MCC) media I've ever seen before. Is there a country of origin on the packaging? Perhaps it's some of the newer Indian media making its way into the US market.

Many thanks for the good info.

Indeed the packaging does say "Made in India" -
so it looks like they are "genuine" MCC (Mitsubishi) made in India.......

Thanks -
not quite the stunning bargain - but still pretty good @ $10 for 50.
(but kinda moot since the sale is now over)

I've done a straight (movie 4Gb) burn - and the one sample gave no problems -
but then I've done straight burns on CMC and Ritek without much problem either.

They're probably better than most discs, and infinitely better than your average Memorex, especially as they have the MCC media code. People were complaining that some of them have the MBIL media codes which aren't done to Verbatim's QC standards.

My guess would be they'd be better than any CMC or Ritek media you'd buy. :) It's definitely interesting as it means Memorex media might be a good pickup if they go on sale, if you can find Made in India discs, as Memorex gets very cheap sometimes.

My guess would be they'd be better than any CMC or Ritek media you'd buy. :) It's definitely interesting as it means Memorex media might be a good pickup if they go on sale, if you can find Made in India discs, as Memorex gets very cheap sometimes.

Once again thanks - I'll use these MCC(India) Memorex DVD+R for my more "important" burns - and the CMC and Ritek for the less :o

Since I don't normally have too much problems with DVD blank media -
I tend to just buy the cheapest well known brand -
the only other brands I have are Magnavox DVD+R (CMC Mag M01) @ $6/25, and TDK (Ritek R05) $12/50.

I knew Memorex seem to have a bad rep - but at $10/50 (20cents each) it was worth trying -
especially if I had problems I could always just take them back to Radio Shack.....
nice to know they were actually better than either of my other 2 DVD+R brands.

Thanks

Why are people taking chances on crap media when TYs regularly come on sale at only a mere penny to a nickel more? :confused: Throw in the added cost of gas to go buy the discs over having them delivered free and it turns out about even. :(

The lone exception is the tri-annual Staples' Playo sale at 6 cents per disc...or 15 cents savings / 75% off over TY.

I've had very good results with MII Verbatims, on sale for 26¢ ea. from Microcenter, until the end of the month, I think.

Maxell DVD+R "4x/8x/16x" are one of the discs that are recommended for a particular recorder. I don't recall having seen that exact description on any packaging (although I wasn't into DVD recording at the time). I believe that the current Maxell product has packaging with the description in a box with an orange background ("Up to Max 16x").

http://www.maxell-usa.com/index.aspx?id=1;58;444;0&a=info&pid=312

So can "4x/8x/16x" refer to previous Maxell products that had the descriptions "Up to Max 4x" and "Up to Max 8x" ?

P.S. I had posted a simular question in another thread but there seems to be more disc savvy people here than in the other thread.

Why are people taking chances on crap media when TYs regularly come on sale at only a mere penny to a nickel more? :confused: Throw in the added cost of gas to go buy the discs over having them delivered free and it turns out about even. :(

The lone exception is the tri-annual Staples' Playo sale at 6 cents per disc...or 15 cents savings / 75% off over TY.
Nov 1, 2007 - Imation now "handling" TDK consumer DVD sales and after-sales support, according to this posting. (http://www.tdk.co.jp/notice/notice_us.html) [TDK stopped making consumer DVDs in their facilities a couple of years ago (to concentrate their resources on HD).]

Spyder Alert: be forewarned, Imation bought Memorex in Jan 2006, officially "handling" TDK Nov 2007, and they're coming after Taiyo-Yuden next... maybe gobble up Verbatim on the way!? :D

Great information here. Question: Has anyone seen Verbatim (+R) 100 packs lately that are TNR LOCK----OPEN? I've only been seeing them in 50 packs and smaller. I'm not sure whether this means that the recent(?) change in packaging for the 100 packs means that the typeface is no longer an indicator of CMC/Prodisc or whether all new-style 100 packs are Prodisc.

Why are people taking chances on crap media when TYs regularly come on sale at only a mere penny to a nickel more? :confused: Throw in the added cost of gas to go buy the discs over having them delivered free and it turns out about even. :(

This would include most (all?) Fujis, I assume, and do you know what else? I'll keep an eye out for the sales, since Verbatims are a little too much of a challenge at the moment.

Fuji DVDs are pretty much never TY anymore. I don't think there is a reliable supplier of TY discs in the B&M space at all, you have to buy online. (I think your only hope might be getting some old stock Sonys at Sears or Walgreens, some have reported still finding Made in Japan media)

Agreed with above post. I bought a bucketload of Fujis waaaaaay back, but won't touch 'em now. TYs are too cheap to pass up for roll-the-dice, second-guess, crapshoot media.

Great information here. Question: Has anyone seen Verbatim (+R) 100 packs lately that are TNR LOCK----OPEN? I've only been seeing them in 50 packs and smaller. I'm not sure whether this means that the recent(?) change in packaging for the 100 packs means that the typeface is no longer an indicator of CMC/Prodisc or whether all new-style 100 packs are Prodisc.

Last sale ad I saw for Verbs had 25s, and 50s, both with a new label. I have about 300 on hand, so I haven't looked at the ones with the new labels yet, but am anxious to know if this says anything about a change in their manufacture/quality...

Nice buy on Jewel Cases. 100 assembled with black tray for $20.99 delivered. I ordered 2-100packs. With the free shipping this was actually cheaper than buying the more heavily discounted bigger bulk packages. They arrived in good condition, and are of decent quality.

http://www.meritline.com/100pajecafor.html

I haven't seen this posted before, but Wiki has a nice entry on Taiyo Yuden with info I haven't seen before, esp. media and hub codes to tell which is real.

Here's the Wiki entry (updated 29 Nov 2007). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyo_Yuden)

Office Depot has their store brand 25 disc spindles of DVD +RW for $9.99 (0.40/ea), excluding taxes. Anyone know what the latest code for these is ?

Last week they had the same quantity of "Ativa" brand +RW's for $12.99. On the package it says that they are also made for Office Depot. Is this their old line or perhaps a replacement for their "Office Depot" brand ? Anyone have the code for these ?

Fuji DVDs are pretty much never TY anymore. I don't think there is a reliable supplier of TY discs in the B&M space at all, you have to buy online. (I think your only hope might be getting some old stock Sonys at Sears or Walgreens, some have reported still finding Made in Japan media)

I agree. I haven't seen any MIJ DVD media in the store in well over a year. The only exception being the Panasonic branded TY media that you see aroound, always in packages so small (1-5) that you'd never buy them anyway. Now MIJ TY CD-R's can be gotten at Wal-Mart (Maxell Pro branded).

Since I don't normally have too much problems with DVD blank media -
I tend to just buy the cheapest well known brand -
the only other brands I have are Magnavox DVD+R (CMC Mag M01) @ $6/25, and TDK (Ritek R05) $12/50.


Try reading some of that cheap media a year or two from now and you'll regret going cheap.

Last sale ad I saw for Verbs had 25s, and 50s, both with a new label. I have about 300 on hand, so I haven't looked at the ones with the new labels yet, but am anxious to know if this says anything about a change in their manufacture/quality...

On the ones that you do have, what is the coloring on the shrink packaging ?

The reason I ask is because I just went to BestBuy and saw two styles of packaging for 50 piece Verbatum DVD +R's. The apparently older one was purple with a blue upper portion of the package. The newer one uses just two shades of purple. I believe the older DVD -R also used blue on the upper portion of the package.

PS. Semaphoric (11-25-07) said:" I've had very good results with MII Verbatims, on sale for 26¢ ea. from Microcenter, until the end of the month, I think."

Did he mean to say those Verbatum were "Made In India (Mii)" ?

On the ones that you do have, what is the coloring on the shrink packaging ?

The reason I ask is because I just went to BestBuy and saw two styles of packaging for 50 piece Verbatum DVD +R's. The apparently older one was purple with a blue upper portion of the package. The newer one uses just two shades of purple. I believe the older DVD -R also used blue on the upper portion of the package.

PS. Semaphoric (11-25-07) said:" I've had very good results with MII Verbatims, on sale for 26¢ ea. from Microcenter, until the end of the month, I think."

Did he mean to say those Verbatum were "Made In India (Mii)" ?

I am pretty sure that is what he meant. MIJ=Made In Japan.... MII=Made In India.

Office Max, Verbatim 16X +R/-R 100-pack spindle, $24.99.

Also Verbatim 52X CD-R, 100 pack, $19.99.

It seems Verbatim media has a pretty good rep here. Are these the ones?
I have had very good results with their MIS DVD+RDL.
Should these be MIJ, MIS, MIT, MI? or does it matter?

It seems Verbatim media has a pretty good rep here. Are these the ones?
I have had very good results with their MIS DVD+RDL.
Should these be MIJ, MIS, MIT, MI? or does it matter?

Verbatim DLs are the only thing I'll use. Mine are all made in India so far. Zero errors.

I was at OM today and saw the Verbatim DVD+R 100 pack in 2 different packages. The dark and light purple says 2006 and the purple with blue I did not see a date but it is the one shown on the Verbatim website. By this I would think the dark and light purple is the older but it doesn't seem to match what has been said. Plus what about the serif and sans serif.
Both are MIT but the purple with blue did say something about MKM-Mitsubishi Kagaku Media - which I believe is #1.
Can someone put this all together and tell me what is what and which I should buy without opening them and testing.

Scan from DVD burned on my Sylvania HDVR200F on my latest batch of Verbatim 16x MIT DVD-R.

Date : 1/3/2008 6:24:55 PM
Model : 2-0-0-0 J:LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S MS0P
Disc : DVD-R , MCC03RG20 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 2039598
Sampling count : 107097
Errors : 0
PI Max : 16
PI Average : 2.54
PI Total : 38883
PIF Max : 2
PIF Average : 0.10
PIF Total : 1503

Best Buy has a 20-pk. of Verbatim DVD+R DL on sale this week for $29.99. They are 2.4x and 8.5GB. The add shows what to me is the familiar packaging (light purple/blue with yellow lettering), but when I got to the store, I found them to be wrapped in dark purple packaging and I couldn't see the hub. The other difference I noticed is that these list US, Europe and Australia, whereas the 15-pk. (in the familiar packaging) says US, Europe and Asia Pacific. Anyone know if the ones in the purple packaging are any good? I've been reading that the MII are a crap-shoot, but I can't tell if the 20-pk. is MII or Singapore because I couldn't see the hub. Thanks!

Best Buy has a 20-pk. of Verbatim DVD+R DL on sale this week for $29.99. They are 2.4x and 8.5GB. The add shows what to me is the familiar packaging (light purple/blue with yellow lettering), but when I got to the store, I found them to be wrapped in dark purple packaging and I couldn't see the hub. The other difference I noticed is that these list US, Europe and Australia, whereas the 15-pk. (in the familiar packaging) says US, Europe and Asia Pacific. Anyone know if the ones in the purple packaging are any good? I've been reading that the MII are a crap-shoot, but I can't tell if the 20-pk. is MII or Singapore because I couldn't see the hub. Thanks!

It seems everyone is selling the ones in the latter package now, which has me concerned. Me, I only buy online, and have only gotten the old packaging to date. No fails yet. (All MiI media)

Playo DVD+R 16x scan with K-Probe.

Date : 1/9/2008 12:32:07 AM
Model : 2-0-0-0 J:LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S MS0P
Disc : DVD+R , MCC004 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 2179350
Sampling count : 114698
Errors : 0
PI Max : 20
PI Average : 4.70
PI Total : 77072
PIF Max : 4
PIF Average : 0.33
PIF Total : 5431

Aaarrrrgh! Bought a 50 pk spindle of TDK -Rs from Office Max Monday. DVD Identifier lists the first one out as dreaded CMC.


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AM3]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG. AM3]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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Sigh, 4th class media according to digitalFAQ. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
Wonders if they'll take'm back, despite having been opened and 1 used...

They should. Tell 'em it won't work with your burner.

This week:
Office Max 20 Verb +R DLs, $24.99 That's $1.25 per - pretty cheap!

Best Buy 100 Sony +R, -R, $22.99

This week:
Office Max 20 Verb +R DLs, $24.99...

Good price. Will check it out tomorrow and report back where they're made. The cover shown isn't too promising.

I've got a pretty good stock, but if you tell me they are good, I'll pick some up.

Office Max has on sale this week-
VERBATIM 16x DVD+/-R,100-Pack Spindle #2122-3123
$19.99
Reg. $59.99
thru Feb 16

and-
VERBATIM 2.4x Dual-Layer DVD+R 20-Pack Spindle #2119-9221
$24.99
Reg. $49.99
thru Feb 16

While Office Depot has-
Office Depot® Brand 16x DVD-/+R Media 50-PK $12.99
and for the adventurous...
Memorex 16x DVD-/+R Media 100-PK $22.99
Memorex® DVD+R LightScribe™ Media 20-PK $14.99

And Circuit City has
Sony 4.7GB DVD+/-R Recordable Storage Spindle (25-Pack) $6.99

Office Max has on sale this week-
VERBATIM 2.4x Dual-Layer DVD+R 20-Pack Spindle #2119-9221
$24.99
Reg. $49.99
thru Feb 16

Looks like the ones in the blue packaging. :(

Thru Feb 16 Walgreen's Drug Stores:
Sony -R & +R 50Pk $15.99 Not the best price but check all the shelf stock because sometimes they have the Sony Made In Japan discs.

Also TDK -RW & +RW in a dvd case for $1.00 each.

Looks like the ones in the blue packaging. :(

Okay, what's wrong with the ones in the blue packaging?

And Circuit City has
Sony 4.7GB DVD+/-R Recordable Storage Spindle (25-Pack) $6.99
I ventured to CC this afternoon and found the Sony spindles. But checking where they were made, I saw they were from Malaysia instead of Taiwan. Was nervous about getting them so I put them back. The last 2 Sony packs I bought were made in Taiwan, and carried a 1st class media ranking at the DVD site that lists media code rankings.

Thru Feb 16 Walgreen's Drug Stores:
Sony -R & +R 50Pk $15.99 Not the best price but check all the shelf stock because sometimes they have the Sony Made In Japan discs.

Also TDK -RW & +RW in a dvd case for $1.00 each.
Checked here too, but the -Rs were all gone. But picked up 3 of the TDK -RWs. Be sure to get the ad flyer when you go in, the $1price required the coupon inside, at least the checker made me pull the thing out for her to see. :rolleyes:

...at least the checker made me pull the thing out for her to see. :rolleyes:

Is that how you got the discount? :D Or did she roll her eyes too? ;)

Office Max has on sale this week-
VERBATIM 16x DVD+/-R,100-Pack Spindle #2122-3123
$19.99
Reg. $59.99
thru Feb 16

and-
VERBATIM 2.4x Dual-Layer DVD+R 20-Pack Spindle #2119-9221
$24.99
Reg. $49.99
thru Feb 16


Well, I went ahead and got both the -R and the +R DLs.

-R are made in Taiwan.

+R DL are made in Singapore.

I haven't done a scan yet.

Well, I went ahead and got both the -R and the +R DLs.

-R are made in Taiwan.

+R DL are made in Singapore.

I haven't done a scan yet.

Hurry up :)

Office Max has on sale this week-
VERBATIM 16x DVD+/-R,100-Pack Spindle #2122-3123
$19.99
Reg. $59.99
thru Feb 16

and-
VERBATIM 2.4x Dual-Layer DVD+R 20-Pack Spindle #2119-9221
$24.99
Reg. $49.99
thru Feb 16

While Office Depot has-
Office Depot® Brand 16x DVD-/+R Media 50-PK $12.99
and for the adventurous...
Memorex 16x DVD-/+R Media 100-PK $22.99
Memorex® DVD+R LightScribe™ Media 20-PK $14.99

And Circuit City has
Sony 4.7GB DVD+/-R Recordable Storage Spindle (25-Pack) $6.99

Picked up a package apiece of the DVD-r and DVD+r.

DVD+R Manufacturer ID = MCC-004-00
DVD-R Manufacturer ID = MCC 03RG20
Both made in Taiwan.

you can buy the office max verbatims online now.
free shipping on orders over $50 and use code SAVECASH (all capitals)
for $15 off $75. $70 and change including tax for four 100 spindles.

The Verbatim +R DL discs came out as MKM-001-00, which, from all I've read, is good. :)

The ones I have from Singapore (blue package) and India (white package) both give the exact same code.

you can buy the office max verbatims online now.
free shipping on orders over $50 and use code SAVECASH (all capitals)
for $15 off $75. $70 and change including tax for four 100 spindles.

Thanks for the code. Under ¢18 per disk is an excellent deal.

The Verbatim +R DL discs came out as MKM-001-00, which, from all I've read, is good. :)Would that be both the 50 and the 100 pks. that are on sale (they look the same)?

Would that be both the 50 and the 100 pks. that are on sale (they look the same)?

I think you missed a couple o' letters there Rammy. :)

The +R DUAL LAYERS come in 20 packs and give the code MKM-001-00.

I didn't scan the -R SINGLE LAYER discs yet. Those DO come in packs of 50 and 100, though I have no idea why anyone would go for the 50 @ $15, when they can double up and get 100 for just $5 more.

The 50 and 100 packs (other than quantity, obviously) are identical, as you suspected.

I don't see the DLs on the OfficeMax site. Are they store-only?

BTW, it seems like they've ran out of +Rs. I just got an email saying it "could take until 02/27/08 to come in from the vendor". They're still showing as "shipping in 1-3 days" though...

I think you missed a couple o' letters there Rammy. :)

The +R DUAL LAYERS come in 20 packs and give the code MKM-001-00.

I didn't scan the -R SINGLE LAYER discs yet. Those DO come in packs of 50 and 100, though I have no idea why anyone would go for the 50 @ $15, when they can double up and get 100 for just $5 more.

The 50 and 100 packs (other than quantity, obviously) are identical, as you suspected.Sorry - didn't notice the "dual-layer" part.

Good to know about those too, though.

I don't see the DLs on the OfficeMax site. Are they store-only?

Try looking at page 9 of their weekly ad on their website.
Here's a link.

http://officemax.shoplocal.com/officemax/Default.aspx?action=browsepagelarge&storeid=2420359&rapid=512667&pagenumber=9

Thanks, it does appear to be store-only. That sku doesn't exist in the online store.

you can buy the office max verbatims online now.
free shipping on orders over $50 and use code SAVECASH (all capitals)
for $15 off $75. $70 and change including tax for four 100 spindles.

Thank you very much for this code NewYorkGirl! I went to my local OfficeMax tonite with a pal and we got 4 100 spindles of the Verbatim's together. I told the OfficeMax Manager about the code and asked if he would match that in the store. He had a Jr. Member go in the office with me, we pulled up this website and got the code(I didn't remember it... Duh!). Then they went to the officeMax website, dumped 4 100 spindles in the cart, entered the code and went to checkout. Sure enough - it showed $15 off. They printed the page as proof of the code's validity and sold us the 400 Verbatim's for $71.42 after tax. Put them on my pal's Business Credit Card and got another 5% off!

$67.85 final cost for 400 verbs. 17cents apiece. Sweet!

And Kudos to my Local OfficeMax for going to such ridiculous lengths to make a customer happy!!!

Picked up a 100 pack of Verbatim DVD-Rs in the new packaging, they're the MCC03 media id (Which ALL Verbatim-branded -Rs should be) but unfortunately the MAP6 hub code which in my experience is much inferior to hub code MAPA. I know many don't agree with my concerns about MAP6 coded discs but they definitely burn and scan much worse than MAPA ever did on my LG and Plextor burners.

That said, I knew going into it that there was probably a 95% chance they'd be MAP6 (haven't seen MAPA DVD-Rs in at least 18 months) but figured for $20 I'd have a 100 good "backup copy" level discs. (i.e., for something important burn on TY/Verbatim +R and make another copy on these).

They were out of DVD+Rs but I have a raincheck (Which consisted of the cashier circling it on the ad and writing "RAIN CHECK".. hrrrrrrm.). So I have no idea what those were.

Here is a K-Probe Scan of the first DVD from my new batch of Verbatim (MAP6) DVD-R 16x. This was burned on my Sylvania HDRV200F from an Analog Cable feed first recorded to the HDD then edited and burned to DVD. This is about as good as it gets with this particular burner.

Date : 2/16/2008 11:14:38 PM
Model : 2-0-0-0 L:LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S MS0P
Disc : DVD-R , MCC03RG20 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 1629506
Sampling count : 85561
Errors : 0
PI Max : 27
PI Average : 2.87
PI Total : 35069
PIF Max : 2
PIF Average : 0.03
PIF Total : 341

WOW!! I got by far the WORST burn I have EVER seen of of one of my new Verbatim DVD+R 16x DVD Blanks! This DVD was recorded on my computer from a very good original burn from my Sylvania HDRV200F that I stored on a computer HDD as backup. The Computer Burner was a TSST SH-S202J (Toshiba Samsung Corp). I did get 3 average burns from the same original file burning the Verb+R 16x with my Optiarc and my Lite-On DVD burners. But MAN!! That was on uuuuuuugly burn from the TSST.


Date : 2/17/2008 2:43:18 AM
Model : 2-0-0-0 L:LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S MS0P
Disc : DVD+R , MCC004 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 1613262
Sampling count : 83769
Errors : 0
PI Max : 1409
PI Average : 503.80
PI Total : 6072353
PIF Max : 183
PIF Average : 116.10
PIF Total : 1398356

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia/verbatim-dvd-r-mcc-004-16/2487

WOW!! I got by far the WORST burn I have EVER seen of of one of my new Verbatim DVD+R 16x DVD Blanks!

Best to worst in just 3 hours. :confused: Are you sure the quality of the burn wasn't at least partially a product of doin' a bit o' the drinkin' and staying up 'tll 3 AM? ;)

WOW!! I got by far the WORST burn I have EVER seen of of one of my new Verbatim DVD+R 16x DVD Blanks!
Disc: DVD+R , MCC004 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
I didn't know this, but apparently many people are questioning the MCC004 media, specifically for erratic burns.

Here's a post that sums up the thread it's in pretty well. (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f43/how-quality-mcc-004-00-verbatim-your-716-a-135625/#post975259) Many other posts in this thread also complaining about bad burns.

Best to worst in just 3 hours. :confused: Are you sure the quality of the burn wasn't at least partially a product of doin' a bit o' the drinkin' and staying up 'tll 3 AM? ;)

I am sure. I am a night owl and I do not use alcohol or any mood/mind altering drugs beyond caffeine. :D

The burns were from different burners and different media. I just burned another Verb-R 16x from new batch on my Sylvania and got another very nice scan. The HORRIBLE scan was from a Verb PLUS R burned on a Tosh/Samsung Computer based DVD Burner. I did have some (barely) passable burns with the Verb PLUS R on 2 other DVD Burners, but I am probably going to return those PLUS R's for MINUS R's.

Scott has been warning about the MAP6 Verbatim Problems but I have not encountered it with all my Verb-Rs. This Verb+R is another matter though! Possibly the worst Burn in the History of DVD Burners and Media!

I am sure. I am a night owl and I do not use alcohol or any mood/mind altering drugs beyond caffeine. :D

The burns were from different burners and different media. I just burned another Verb-R 16x from new batch on my Sylvania and got another very nice scan. The HORRIBLE scan was from a Verb PLUS R burned on a Tosh/Samsung Computer based DVD Burner. I did have some (barely) passable burns with the Verb PLUS R on 2 other DVD Burners, but I am probably going to return those PLUS R's for MINUS R's.

Scott has been warning about the MAP6 Verbatim Problems but I have not encountered it with all my Verb-Rs. This Verb+R is another matter though! Possibly the worst Burn in the History of DVD Burners and Media!

I've never had an issue with -R discs, even down to the 4 cent Playos. (8 cents per right now at Staples, btw! :)) +R is where is always seems to get dicey. I avoid them like the plague if possible. (DL excluded) :(

As for the part I highlighted in your post, it's astonishing that it didn't come from a Memorex disc! :eek:

+R is where is always seems to get dicey. I avoid them like the plague...
Since you're negative-on-plus (- +), you've turned into anti-matter... implosion is imminent! EVERYONE STAND BACK!

Since you're negative-on-plus (- +), you've turned into anti-matter... implosion is imminent! EVERYONE STAND BACK!

:D

Since you're negative-on-plus (- +), you've turned into anti-matter... implosion is imminent! EVERYONE STAND BACK!

But since I'm plus-on-negative (+ -) it all evens out! :)

Fortunately, I've got the USS Enterprise F parked in my garage with a fresh anitmatter containment field. Just don't let anyone say, "Coolant leak!" :eek:

As for the part I highlighted in your post, it's astonishing that it didn't come from a Memorex disc! :eek:Actually, the worst DVD-R's I think I've ever had were those "Movie Reel"-type Verbatims that I had from BB awhile back. I don't know what type those were, other than MIT. Half of the 25-pack wouldn't even burn at all, on any of my recorders.

I've never had any problems with any other Verbatims, though.

The Verb -R 100-pack I just got from OfficeMax (orange plastic wrap) is MAP7. I haven't had a chance to do a burn yet. The last Verb 100-pack (light blue paper wrap) I got was neither MAPA nor MAP6 but something starting with four numbers. I had excellent burns with those.

[spyder goes over and sifts through the hundreds of discs he bought recently, feels a bit overwhelmed]

I got the clear cover w/ light blue (but mostly white) cover art pack of 100 -R discs. Looks very similar to the old popcorn design. No wonder...MIT in 2006! :eek:

Swapped out the Verbatim 16x Plus 'oRribles today for another 100 of the DVD-R which have been giving me some very nice burns and scans. Kudos to Officemax again. No hassle on the exchange at all. Manager remembered me, and didn't blink when I told him the + 'oRribles were giving me lousy burns. Thanks again, Officemax!!!

The Verb 16x DVD-R from Office Max = MAP7
The Verb 16x DVD+R from Office Max = No Map at all, just numbers...
I am overwhelmed by data.

The Verb 16x DVD-R from Office Max = MAP7
The Verb 16x DVD+R from Office Max = No Map at all, just numbers...
I am overwhelmed by data.

YA-HOOO!!! At long last those miserable gawdforsaken MAP6 spindles are finally running out and being replaced by something else! I used Verbatim until the never-ending batch of MAP6 flooded retail shelves last year: these won't burn on any of my recorders and isn't even recognized by half of 'em. With any luck CMC got their act together and noticed something fishy in MAP6 which has now been fixed in the MAP7. :)Then again, they may have just changed the label to throw people off.:confused: Can't wait till some reports come in on these new MAP7 DVD-R discs: I'd love to be able to use Verbs again.

For people with the bad batches, can you please post the code in the plastic inner hub? It seems like Verbatim is becoming INCREDIBLY variable and you really need to get as much info as possible-- they all have the same media ID codes unfortunately (MCC03/MCC04) so there's no telling anything by that.

I'm definitely curious about the MAP7 code.

Are the very bad +R discs still Made in Taiwan? Or made in India? Is the code that's stamped on the disc of the format 8 chars, then "+", then 8 more chars? That's indicative of Prodisc media which is still ok but not as good as the good ol' CMC "PAPA"-coded discs.

(I should note, there was a lot of speculation that "PAP6" codes were as bad as MAP6 but I haven't seen as much PAP6. I've been lucky and can still find PAPA CMC-made +R, but haven't tried a new spindle with the new packaging yet)

I have already returned the horrible Verb+R's. Not sure what code they were. Blue and Orange wrapper.

The Verb-Rs are also Blue and Orange wrapper. Mine are Map6, and I am getting some of the best burns ever (for me) from these. Much better than the Taiyo-R's I bought from RIMA, and better than the Sony Taiyo+Rs I bought from Sears and WalGreen's. The Sony/Taiyo+Rs have been quite good though!

For those of you enamored with Memorex DVD media :D, Buy.com is having a sale on DVD+R DL media. Two 25-packs of 8X +R DL discs for $39.99 with free shipping. That's about $.80 per disc.

For those of you enamored with Memorex DVD media :D, Buy.com is having a sale on DVD+R DL media. Two 25-packs of 8X +R DL discs for $39.99 with free shipping. That's about $.80 per disc.
Would you trust Memorex media enough to archive your last summer vacation video on to one of their DVD's? .... didn't think so :D
If you're not going to buy stable media.... why even bother to back up or save your data in the first place?

Actually, if I could buy a single 25 pk for $20 I would go for it -- for test purposes. I have the capabilty to burn +DL but have never tried it because of the cost of blanks. I would like to know which of my equipment would play a burned +DL and do some other playing around with layer breaks etc.

If I know it works with my equipment I would be more ready to buy some Verbatim +DL for real work. For that, I don't use cheap media.

Actually, if I could buy a single 25 pk for $20 I would go for it -- for test purposes. I have the capabilty to burn +DL but have never tried it because of the cost of blanks. I would like to know which of my equipment would play a burned +DL and do some other playing around with layer breaks etc.

If I know it works with my equipment I would be more ready to buy some Verbatim +DL for real work. For that, I don't use cheap media.

Well, I broke down and bought 60 Memorex +R DL discs yesterday. (Yes, me, the hater of all things Blemorex :confused:) Office Depot had them at 15 for $15. Plus, there was a coupon in my paper for $10 off a $25 purchase. I get 2 papers, so 2 coupons.

This made 60 +R DL discs come out to $40 + tax! (About 70 cents per) :)

Scan read as RitekD01, which is 3rd-class media. :(

They're good for some uses, I guess. I'll use them, but not for myself.

Well, I broke down and bought 60 Memorex +R DL discs yesterday. (Yes, me, the hater of all things Blemorex :confused:) Office Depot had them at 15 for $15. Plus, there was a coupon in my paper for $10 off a $25 purchase. I get 2 papers, so 2 coupons.

This made 60 +R DL discs come out to $40 + tax! (About 70 cents per) :)

Scan read as RitekD01, which is 3rd-class media. :(

They're good for some uses, I guess. I'll use them, but not for myself.
I always recommend using discs like the ones you got for making copies for your cheap friends who want something for free... sort of like writing them a love note with disappearing ink!? :D

25 Sony +R DLs for $29.99, Best Buy. Anyone know if they are any good?

Office Depot (or was it Office Max?) has the same Memorex 15 pack of +R DL discs for $13 this week.

I think it was Office Max.

Microcenter.com has some pretty good deals on Verb DVD media (http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=verbatim+dvd&submit.x=0&submit.y=0).

Microcenter.com has some pretty good deals on Verb DVD media (http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=verbatim+dvd&submit.x=0&submit.y=0).

I clicked on the link...where's the good deals? :confused:

I clicked on the link...where's the good deals? :confused:

Didn't you see the deals on Verb DVD+/- R's (50 pack spindle for $15.99, 100 pack for $23.99)?

Didn't you see the deals on Verb DVD+/- R's (50 pack spindle for $15.99, 100 pack for $23.99)?

I saw everything...all at prices that were decent, but quite average.

You can beat 24/32 cents per +/- without much effort. Here's a start:

http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/Default.aspx?u1=581870-1-0-ARTICLE-0&action=browsepageflash&storeid=2507722&rapid=519534&pagenumber=1&prvid=OfficeDepot-080306&promotioncode=OfficeDepot-080306

Coupon is good for $10 off any order of $25 or more. You can use it for any type of disc. Good luck.

I saw everything...all at prices that were decent, but quite average.

You can beat 24/32 cents per +/- without much effort. Here's a start:

http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/Default.aspx?u1=581870-1-0-ARTICLE-0&action=browsepageflash&storeid=2507722&rapid=519534&pagenumber=1&prvid=OfficeDepot-080306&promotioncode=OfficeDepot-080306

Coupon is good for $10 off any order of $25 or more. You can use it for any type of disc. Good luck.

Thanks, spyder. You're right, those are pretty good deals with the coupon. I will definitely take advantage of this.

My Sunday paper was missing *all* the ad fliers for this week. With a 24.6Kbps dial-up internet connection, it takes forever to load a page for an online sale flier, so I'm hoping someone can help me out with my first question: Does anyone have Sony DVD-R or DVD-RW media on sale this week? Sony is my regular brand.

2. Looking at Staples' ad (17 minutes to load the flier page), they have Staples brand DVD 50 packs that include a 256MB flash drive on sale for $9.98. The regular 50 pack price is stated to be $24.98. **edited correction:* These go on sale March 15th, next week.

I have never bought Staples or any other store branded media. Although the price is cheap (and includes the 256MB flash drive), if the media is of poor quality, I shall not buy it.

There isn't any Sony media on sale this week, Staples is junk, and I noticed you mentioned HP media as well in your title, those suck too.
Verbs are 12.99 at Best Buy this week, that would be your best option.

Thanks, spyder. You're right, those are pretty good deals with the coupon. I will definitely take advantage of this.

The OD $10 off $25 coupon is now expired. HOWEVER, last week the coupon come out on a Wednesday. It appears they put out the Sunday ad, allow everyone to buy up the great deals, then put out the coupon, which expires on Saturday, right before the next ad comes out.

BTW, last week the ad was available for download, whereas the previous week it was not.

The OD $10 off $25 coupon is now expired. HOWEVER, last week the coupon come out on a Wednesday. It appears they put out the Sunday ad, allow everyone to buy up the great deals, then put out the coupon, which expires on Saturday, right before the next ad comes out.

BTW, last week the ad was available for download, whereas the previous week it was not.

Oh well, that's okay. I was going to buy them strictly for saving data from my computer. Seems like what OD was doing is probably common, tho not fair. :mad:

There might be another ad this week. If I see one, I'll post it. Also, just because the ad comes out on Wednesday, doesn't mean that everything good is always gone. The previous week, I got 60 +R DLs for $40...though I did have to go to a store 2 miles further than the one around the corner from my house. :)

With a 24.6Kbps dial-up internet connection, it takes forever to load a page for an online sale flier....What browser are you using? Try Opera (it's usually faster than Firefox, no matter what anyone else tells you).

I thought FF was a huge leap from IE, are you saying Opera may be even faster than FF?
Do you have a link to a download? I usually have ~41K which is fine for AVS, but sites like Panasonic or Sony etc. take a long time to load. So much graphics.

I thought FF was a huge leap from IE, are you saying Opera may be even faster than FF?
Do you have a link to a download? I usually have ~41K which is fine for AVS, but sites like Panasonic or Sony etc. take a long time to load. So much graphics.
When I had dial-up, I browsed with "Show Pictures" off (Multimedia section of Tools > Internet Option > Advanced tab). When I was really interested, I'd turn pics back on.

I followed you through advanced tab, but don't have anything about "show pictures"
Closest would be under tools, internet options, CONTENT tab, Load images automatically. Could that be it? I have FF version 2.0.0.12 for XP. Were you talking about FF or another browser?
Seemed like a while ago, before most everybody got High Speed, the websites themselves would have options for HS or dial-up. Now I think they just assume HS, and don't give the option.

That's it. Instead of turning it back on, you can right click on the placeholder of an image you're interested in and do "View Image".

Thanks, I'll give it a shot next time I'm going to a site with lots of graphics.

My tip was for IE users. Wish I had known about the right-click turn pic on trick when I had dial-up. Hope it helps someone else, tho. Thanks.

What browser are you using? Try Opera (it's usually faster than Firefox, no matter what anyone else tells you).

If it's speed you want, I highly endorse kmeleon.

What browser are you using? Try Opera (it's usually faster than Firefox, no matter what anyone else tells you).

Thanks for the tip, Rammitinski, I'll give Opera a try. I actually went back to IE after briefly trying FF and not finding it a measurable improvement over IE.

wajo: Your pointing out that pictures can be turned off under the advanced settings are under Tools was great. I really had not completely looked at the full set of options in that area before.

I am seriously considering signing up for wireless Internet access from AT&T. Although other cell phone carriers offer wireless Internet via notebook cards, only AT&T customers can use their cell phones where I live since the others are not putting up towers and either AT&T is unwilling or the others are not intereted in renting use of the towers [I switced from Verizon to Cingular/AT&T so I could get full bar service as against no service at all].

... Seemed like a while ago, before most everybody got High Speed, the websites themselves would have options for HS or dial-up. Now I think they just assume HS, and don't give the option.

I think you are right about web site designers assuming *everyone* has high-speed access. Some stores that used to give dial-up people the option of viewing things in html no longer do. Staples dropped the option. Office Depot still lets dial-up people view their sales flier in html.

INTRO: Long-time AVS Forum Member (TiVo Community - 2001), "Old Tinkerer" (aka OLD FART - over 50!), Long-time Computer User (RCA Cosmac 1802, Digital Research Big Board w/Z-80 & CP/M), *BIG-TIME* Firefox Fan (over IE - haven't tried Opera yet...), Newbie to DVD Recorders (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106).

I thought FF was a huge leap from IE, are you saying Opera may be even faster than FF?

...So much graphics.
I haven't tried Opera yet, but, with all of the ADJUSTABLE PARAMETERS and EXTENTIONS available for Firefox (compared to IE), I suggest that you do some more READING *before* 'jumping ship'. I recommend (in alphabetical order while reading my EXTENTIONS List): Adblock (or Adblock Plus)
FasterFox (but *JUST* for the timer - I customize the parameters via ABOUT:CONFIG)
Image Counter (to judge the 'damage')
No Script (to limit the 'overhead')
CookieSafe (to limit the 'overhead')
PopupMaster (to limit the 'overhead')
Personally, I cannot see how a "NATIVE" IE vs Firefox vs Opera vs ??? can be any "huge leap" from the other (*especially* for a 56kbps OR LESS connection). *BUT*, I can see how PROPER TUNING *CAN* 'possibly' make 'some' difference... ;)

Apologies for "off-topic'ing" the already "off-topic'ed" thread. ;)

The Best Buy nearest my work is clearancing Panasonic DVD-R/RAM media for fairly insane prices-- the 10 packs of 8X DVD-Rs are $1.99 and the 5 packs of 2x/3x DVD-RAM are $5.99. (both in slim jewel cases) It's all made in Japan media, the 8X DVD-Rs are Taiyo Yuden, TYG02 media-- some awesome discs. They're still full price on the website ( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7277261&type=product&id=1118839115624 ) so I'm not sure if this is nationwide or what. I do know they had a LOT of discs yesterday and the supply is dwindling rapidly today. (I bought 12 10 packs yesterday and 8 more today-- I'm limited by how much I can carry back to my office [over a mile] ;) )

You might want to take a look at your local BB if it's not entirely out of the way... this is by far the cheapest I've ever seen TYG02s, and it includes jewel cases!

OfficeMax had what they do once in a while, with a "Bag Sale" of sorts where you can get 20% off what can fit in the bag. So with that, I was able to pick up some DVD+RW and DVD-RW spindles, yes, ReWritable spindles, not just Recordables. They were 25-pack spindles, btw. Rather decent, even tho they were regular price, the 20% bag made it a little better.

The Best Buy nearest my work is clearancing Panasonic DVD-R/RAM media for fairly insane prices-- the 10 packs of 8X DVD-Rs are $1.99 and the 5 packs of 2x/3x DVD-RAM are $5.99. (both in slim jewel cases) It's all made in Japan media, the 8X DVD-Rs are Taiyo Yuden, TYG02 media-- some awesome discs. They're still full price on the website ( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7277261&type=product&id=1118839115624 ) so I'm not sure if this is nationwide or what. I do know they had a LOT of discs yesterday and the supply is dwindling rapidly today. (I bought 12 10 packs yesterday and 8 more today-- I'm limited by how much I can carry back to my office [over a mile] ;) )

You might want to take a look at your local BB if it's not entirely out of the way... this is by far the cheapest I've ever seen TYG02s, and it includes jewel cases!

I am going to have to call tomorrow and see. I have SOOOO many Blanks, but if I can get Taiyo MIJ in Jewelcases for .20 each I will have to get some.:eek:

I am going to have to call tomorrow and see. I have SOOOO many Blanks, but if I can get Taiyo MIJ in Jewelcases for .20 each I will have to get some.:eek:

Get on it ASAP, All the Henderson and Las Vegas BBs had no inventory today.

Called this A.M. They were all gone. Oh well,I have more Blanks than I know so didn't really need anymore. I am getting such nice burns from the latests Verbatim 16x -Rs I probably will buy another 100 if I see a KILLER deal though.

Yep, all of the Panasonic DVD-Rs were gone this morning when I went back again, and the shelf tags and stuff were all gone. :( Sorry not more people could get in on this!

any deals on DL

Sony DVD media is on sale at Staples this week for the lowest prices I have ever seen:

50 spindle (-R or +R) = $12.98
100 spindle (-R or +R) = $22.98

There was not a sales flier in our paper this week. Neither was there in the paper of friends' in another part of the country [I just called them]. I stumbled upon the sale when I went into Staples to look at something else then went over to the DVD media section.

There is a weekly sales flier online if anyone interested did not get the paper flier either and wants to see the sales.

I'm in CT & it was/is in my Staples flyer that was in Sunday's newspaper. But Staples is in the next town over so I usually have Wal-Mart price match them.

I'm in CT & it was/is in my Staples flyer that was in Sunday's newspaper. But Staples is in the next town over so I usually have Wal-Mart price match them.

This is a sale, Bill, that is going to require a trip to Staples: Both prices are after instant coupon savings ($8. or $16). None of the price matchers (Wal-Mart, BB, CC) will honor the instant coupon savings, only the sale price.

BTW, my friends get their Sunday paper in Eastern CT. The Providence Journal did not include it.

I don't understand? The flyer I have says:
Sony 50PK DVD-R & DVD+R $12.98 Reg. $29.98 Save $17.00
Sony 100PK DVD-R & DVD+R $22.98 Reg. $59.98 Save $37.00
Sony 100PK CD-R $15.99 Reg. $39.99 Save $24.00

It doesn't say anything about a coupon so Wal-Mart will match the prices unless your saying there is also $8.00 & $16.00 coupons on top of it but I doubt that's correct.

Maybe Staple's has different flyers for different areas? But your correct that the prices are good because they usually run around $14.98 & $24.98

I've never had any issues price matching as long as it's obvious you walk into the circular's store and walk out paying the price in the ad. Any "instant savings" or "instant coupon" is fine as long as it's not something like "With your Staples coupon book!" or the like.

That said, Best Buy sells Sonys for that price every month or so so it's not worth going too out of your way for it. ;)

Bill: I'm doing a copy/paste from the online flier. Later today I shall swing by Staples and check the ad. The online flier I am seeing, however, should be the same one you would see since my default location is still set to RI (I'm there 1/2 the year). It's on page 9:

Reg. $29.98
$20.98
50/Pack
Save $9.00
Before:
$8.00 Instant Coupon
Final Price:
$12.98

http://staples.shoplocal.com/staples/default.aspx?action=entryflash&adref=staples_right_hand_nav&cm_sp=merchandising-_-Specials%20Page-_-Local%20Circular

The sign affixed to the shelf under the Sony DVDs yesterday stated the same thing. If your newspaper flier does not mention the instant coupon, then there is no problem with a Wal-Mart price match.

jmscott42: I have never seen BB sell Sony DVDs this cheap. $15-16, yes, but not $13. Although I do not buy DVD media at BB since it is out of the way for me, I always check their flier for things then do a price match at Staples or CC, depending on what the things I want is.

26 cents per??? Hardly a bargain. You'd be better off walking into Office Depot with the $10 off $25 coupon. (Last day today.)

Walgreen's has Sony +/-Rs going for $15.99, thru Mar 29. I'm seeing this in my localized, online ad.
Plus Maxell CD-Rs for 9.99.

Best Buy has the 100 packs of Sonys for $22.99 in this week's online-only ad. (prices good in store, too, but there was no paper circular)

Walgreen's has Sony +/-Rs going for $15.99, thru Mar 29. I'm seeing this in my localized, online ad...

I hope that's for 100! :eek:

I hope that's for 100! :eek:
Whoops, I knew I was forgetting something. It's the 50 pack spindles.

If it's speed you want, I highly endorse kmeleon.Haven't tried that one yet. Think I will. Thanks. (Actually, I just discovered the AT&T Yahoo browser I get with my DSL is faster than any of 'em! I never even thought to click on the thing - I just figured it would be the same as IE and I happened upon it the other day. I had mainly just been using Opera and (rarely) IE before that.)

I don't really know how much of a difference any browser will make with dial-up, but I thought anything might help a little. There are also other things you can do speed it up that *might* help, even beyond just tweaking what you've got. Check out www.download.com for some free "speed up" programs, some specifically meant for dial-up. You can spend days and days just going through all that stuff.

Actually, I find that just keeping my CP clean and performing regular maintenance stuff helps more than anything else.

Office Depot still lets dial-up people view their sales flier in html.Speaking of html, if you're using Adobe Reader, ditch that and try Foxit Reader. It's MUCH less bloated, and is really fast and smooth and doesn't "stick" or "drag" like Adobe often does. Man, I love that thing. Now that's something I'd call a "HUGE leap" - at least on my CP.

[/list]Personally, I cannot see how a "NATIVE" IE vs Firefox vs Opera vs ??? can be any "huge leap" from the other (*especially* for a 56kbps OR LESS connection). *BUT*, I can see how PROPER TUNING *CAN* 'possibly' make 'some' difference... ;)
See, that was the difference between FF and Opera for me - once I turned on all that stuff it slowed down enough to make Opera the clear winner, because you don't really need that stuff with Opera.

I don't have dial-up now, and it isn't really any kind of huge leap between the two. But it was definitely noticable. It actually put FF closer to IE for me.

(Plus I love that "Speed Dial" that Opera's got. I have AVS right up there in the number one spot!)

Anyhow, back on topic....

Whoops, I knew I was forgetting something. It's the 50 pack spindles.

:eek: Yowza! 32 cents per! :eek:

Circuit City has a sale on Sony 25 pk 16x DVD +/- R's for $6.99 for the week of 3/23 thru 3/29. Just picked up a couple of spindles.

...if you're using Adobe Reader, ditch that and try Foxit Reader. It's MUCH less bloated, and is really fast and smooth and doesn't "stick" or "drag" like Adobe often does. Man, I love that thing. Now that's something I'd call a "HUGE leap" - at least on my CP.

I agree. I just downloaded Foxit Reader for my tax returns. I was thinking of purchasing Adobe Acrobat but Acrobat is too expensive to buy. Foxit Reader is the next best thing.

I don't really know how much of a difference any browser will make with dial-up

lynx http://lynx.browser.org/
and
links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_%28web_browser%29
are nice and fast on dial up. The latter is "prettier" than lynx, but necessarily slower. Still fast, comparatively.

Has anyone in here ever heard of a brand called: "MAM-A Mitsui".

I discovered them at a web site I just found out about called GotMedia.com.

Found here: http://www.gotmedia.com/mam-a-dvd-r.html

They are considered Professional Quality and you can get a 100-pk of DVD-R for as low as $45.00 (I know Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are cheaper at other sites). They also have "Archive Gold" DVD-R's where a 100-pk will cost you $204.00, and I even noticed something they refer to as "Medical Gold Archive" where a 100-pk will run you $286.00 (considered "Master" Quality).

I really don't intend on paying any of these prices (maybe the 100-pk for $45.00, but I'm not convinced just yet), but I just wanted to ask in here if anyone knows if they really are worth the price and if they are the "Professional" grade that they claim to be.

I've never heard of MAM-A DVD's, have you? (please, no "Mama" jokes)

I dunno... digitalfaq.com (I know, last updated Nov 2006!) doesn't show any MAM codes until "3rd Class Crap" and then later, lots of MAM and MAM-America (MAM-A) under FAKE. Sounds like good stuff! :eek:

:mad: No DVD+R DL deals for weeks now. :mad:

Mitsui made pretty good CDRs but I don't know what happened with their DVDs, they're pretty much considered garbage as far as I know.. I don't think anything's changed. Never have actually seen one "in the wild" to test with.

I bought a couple of spindles of standard Mitsui DVD-R's about a year ago and they were high quality with excellent scans. However, since OEM's can change like the wind, who knows if they are still deserving of praise.

If it's speed you want, I highly endorse kmeleon.(Well, I tried it anyway, and Opera and my AT&T browser are still faster on my system.)

Okay, so it ain't the best bargain that ever was. But Walgreens is offering $5 off of any purchase over $20 Friday, 4/11/08 only.
Coupon here: http://www.walgreens.com/hotbuys/default.jsp?Nav_Group_Name=&t1=&cf=ln

Has anyone in here ever heard of a brand called: "MAM-A Mitsui".

"MAM-A" for all intents and purposes is Verbatim. The MAM-A production run is usually considered quite good (at least under the Verbatim brand name). There was a later run codenamed MAM-6 whose production was subcontracted to the notorious CMC, these are supposedly the same high quality but many users find they are not as compatible with older DVD recorders. Thanks for posting this link: I've been trying to find a stash of MAM-A discs for a year with no joy! All the Verbatims on store shelves have long been MAM-6 which I can't use.

"MAM-A" for all intents and purposes is Verbatim. The MAM-A production run is usually considered quite good (at least under the Verbatim brand name). There was a later run codenamed MAM-6 whose production was subcontracted to the notorious CMC, these are supposedly the same high quality but many users find they are not as compatible with older DVD recorders. Thanks for posting this link: I've been trying to find a stash of MAM-A discs for a year with no joy! All the Verbatims on store shelves have long been MAM-6 which I can't use.
Are those MAM-A/MAM-6 different than these MAP6 and PAP6 Verbatims discussed here? (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408771) I've read of these MAP/PAP Verbatims, but not the MAM-A/MAM-6. :confused:

Are those MAM-A/MAM-6 different than these MAP6 and PAP6 Verbatims discussed here? (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408771) I've read of these MAP/PAP Verbatims, but not the MAM-A/MAM-6. :confused:

oops. wait, let me say it again louder: OOPS! :o

This is what happens when I sleep late and check the forums first thing in the morning before my coffee. wajo is absolutely right: I made a mistake and confused the OPs question about Mitsui MAMA with the similar-sounding Mitsubishi MAPA. Sorry, all! :eek:

Mitsui is the firm that specializes in insanely expensive gold archival discs, which are good but arguably not worth the premium price based on several studies. Mitsui silver discs are considered good-to-average depending on the batch. On the whole, in recent years, no hobbyists bother with Mitsui unless they have an itch for expensive gold discs: the garden-variety silver Mitsui discs go mostly to institutional sales. Mitsui codes are MAM-A. There are no subcontracted batches to worry about that we know of.

Mitsubishi Chemical is the OEM for Verbatim, along with TY they are considered the best available standard media, especially the discs marked MAMA. For some world markets, Mitsubishi employs subcontractors to mfr discs using their instructions and oversight. This usually works out fine except for a large batch marked MAP6 which while high in quality were dramatically less compatible with some older recording hardware. After a year on the market these are finally selling thru and the most recent run marked MAP7 seems to be getting better feedback so far.

Many thanks to wajo for quickly prompting me for a correction.:)

Many thanks to wajo for quickly prompting me for a correction.:)
No problem! I've had brain farts much worse than this little poot! :D

For those who like Sonys. Staples has DVD+/-Rs for $12.98 for 50 or $22.98 for 100 spindle.

^^ Sigh...no Staples in my town...and they never seem to be on sale like the rest..

This week-Circuit City
TDK 50 Pack Spindle of 16x DVD+/-R
save 67%
12.99
each
(Reg. 39.99)
thru Apr 19
#DVDPR47FCB50/DVDMR47

Walgreens
TDK Recordable Discs (the better deal for TDKs would be CC)
SALE!
View Larger Image $7.99
thru Apr 19
• 25 pack DVD-R or DVD+R

Office Max has a sale on Verbs
VERBATIM 16x DVD+/-R, 100-Pack Spindle
IN-STORE ONLY.
SAVE $35
thru Apr 19

The regular price from which you can get $35 off isn't listed, but it's usually near the $49.99 range.

Office Max has a sale on Verbs
VERBATIM 16x DVD+/-R, 100-Pack Spindle
IN-STORE ONLY.
SAVE $35
thru Apr 19
The regular price from which you can get $35 off isn't listed, but it's usually near the $49.99 range.

I just dug out my receipt from Office Max's sale back in November when they also had a $35.00 promo discount for 100 count spindles of Verbatim 16x discs but also a coupon that was good for $10. off $20. or more purchase. At that time they list the $35.00 discount from $59.99 so I was able to get a 100 count spindle for only $15.. a great deal..
So figure till the 19th a 100 count spindle will be at least $25. still a good price.

For those who like Sonys. Staples has DVD+/-Rs for $12.98 for 50 or $22.98 for 100 spindle.

Just be sure to check the country of manufacture on the wrappers before you buy. The consensus is Sony Malaysia discs are crap, and Sony Taiwan are quite good. At Staples and elsewhere, the 50-paks are almost always sourced from Malaysia and the 100-paks from Taiwan. I just bought two of the 100-paks from Staples today, thanks for the heads up! Sony Taiwan DVD-R works really well in my 2003/2004-era JVC and Pioneer recorders (they vomit all over CMC-TDK and other relabeled junk).

CAUTION!! Please do not place any DVDs with vomit on them into a DVDR...irreparable damage will ensue...!!! :D

CAUTION!! Please do not place any DVDs with vomit on them into a DVDR...irreparable damage will ensue...!!! :D

Damn me and my purple prose! Why can't I use objective language like "my older DVRs are incompatible with most CMC-oem media"? Must be genetic... Italians are known to be melodramatic...;)

CAUTION!! Please do not place any DVDs with vomit on them into a DVDR...irreparable damage will ensue...!!! :D

You mean I could damage my DVDR if I put in a recording of Pathfinder? :eek:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11241515#post11241515

just something else about this week's STAPLES sony dvd offer..besides the special sale offer of $12.98/$22.98 respectively for the 50 & 100pk of sony dvd+/- discs, they now have increased the regular daily price of these items from $29.98/$59.98 respectively to $32.98 for 50pk and $62.98 for 100pk(at least in the flyer i got).
wth is the cause for such a significant increase? possible downstream effect of fuel prices effecting transportation of store stock?

also, i too am aware of the risk of purchasing sony MIM product but i think i may have gotten lucky. i have a 50pk of sony dvd-r purchased at walmart that remarkably read as "sony16d1" which as far as i know is still considered class1 media.

Just be sure to check the country of manufacture on the wrappers before you buy. The consensus is Sony Malaysia discs are crap, and Sony Taiwan are quite good. At Staples and elsewhere, the 50-paks are almost always sourced from Malaysia and the 100-paks from Taiwan. I just bought two of the 100-paks from Staples today, thanks for the heads up! Sony Taiwan DVD-R works really well in my 2003/2004-era JVC and Pioneer recorders (they vomit all over CMC-TDK and other relabeled junk).

Your welcome for the heads up. And I thank you for the info about the different sources/qualities of Sonys. BTW, this deal I mentioned was from the Website. Most Staples stores will match their Website prices.

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?&secondlevelCategoryId=12010&firstlevelCatName=Media+%26+Accessories&firstlevelCategoryId=59411&langId=-1&storeId=10001&pCategoryId=12010&splCatType=1&catalogId=10051&categoryId=11083&secondlevelCatName=DVD+Media

As to the OfficeMax Verbatims... With the DVD-Rs in the new Blue/Orange Wrapper I have been getting some of the very nicest Burns/Scans ever. Soon as I see another good deal I will buy another 100-200 of those. They do "feel" "thinner" and "lighter" to me, but the Burns are exceptional.

Was in my local Sears this afternoon and passed thru the electronic section. And there be Sony dvds there. Not the greeat bargain at Staples though. 25 packs of Sony +/- on sale for $11.99, with the 50 packs for $21 something.
The 25 pack +Rs were labeled Made in Japan, with the dust covered -Rs made in Taiwan. I think the 50 packs were made in either Taiwan, or Malaysia- can't recall now that I'm posting. :)

CAUTION!! Please do not place any DVDs with vomit on them into a DVDR...irreparable damage will ensue...!!! :D

Yeah, the vomit will be totally useless if you do that.




just something else about this week's STAPLES sony dvd offer..besides the special sale offer of $12.98/$22.98 respectively for the 50 & 100pk of sony dvd+/- discs, they now have increased the regular daily price of these items from $29.98/$59.98 respectively to $32.98 for 50pk and $62.98 for 100pk(at least in the flyer i got).
wth is the cause for such a significant increase? possible downstream effect of fuel prices effecting transportation of store stock?


Transportation costs, yes. But also, many plastics are all, or in part, made from petroleum. Years ago, I did a lot of work with epoxy coatings. Every time the oil price per barrel would go up, so would the epoxy price.

Don't forget the declining value of the dollar. It takes more to buy less.

Office Max has Verbs on sale again this week,,,

Item Detail

Prices effective Sunday, Apr. 27th - Saturday, May. 3rd (except as noted)
Online prices may differ from store prices due to regional variations
<< Back
VERBATIM 100-Pack Spindle 16x DVD+/-R
SAVE $35 $24.99
(Reg. $59.99)
thru May 3

Office Max has Verbs on sale again this week,,,

I don't like the looks of that packaging though.

If anyone's desperate for DL discs, Office Depot has 15 Memorex for $15.

Newegg has 20 Verbatim DLs for $31 + free shipping.

lynx http://lynx.browser.org/
and
links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_%28web_browser%29
are nice and fast on dial up.

The first site goes only to lynx 2.8.5 (2004). A more up-to-date site is http://lynx.isc.org/ which has 2.8.6 as the current stable release (most recent is May 2007), and development releases of 2.8.7 (most recent is today :eek:)

sony 16x dvd+/-r on sale for $6.99 at circuit city this week...

sony 16x dvd+/-r on sale for $6.99 at circuit city this week...

For a 25 pack. Staples has a 100 for $22.99.

staples, today, i bought hp -r 50 pk spindle, $8.99. they also had +rs, same $.
they were in flyer.

Anyone with a Costco membership, their 2008 summer Passport to Savings coupon book has a coupon for BOGO free Sony +/- R media. It's valid only Aug4-Aug10 '08. I believe their media is usually ~$32/100. $32 for 200 is a good deal if you like Sony media.
I probably won't use my coupon(have a stockpile of DVDs) so if you want to PM me I could mail you mine. If I mail it I'll update this post.
Jeff

Darn. If it was Sam's, I'd take you up on it.

digitalfaq.com has been updated... March 26,2008! (http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm) :)

Anyone with a Costco membership, their 2008 summer Passport to Savings coupon book has a coupon for BOGO free Sony +/- R media. It's valid only Aug4-Aug10 '08. I believe their media is usually ~$32/100. $32 for 200 is a good deal if you like Sony media.
I probably won't use my coupon(have a stockpile of DVDs) so if you want to PM me I could mail you mine. If I mail it I'll update this post.
Jeff

In the Passport Savings Coupon Book it says these are Printable +/-r media. If it is I will be picking up 4 spindles.

This week at Best Buy, Verbatim -R and +R 50@ $12.99. I used to wait until I saw them a bit cheaper than that to buy, but with rising inflation, and oil prices, I think we might not see them cheaper any time soon.

Office Max has 100 pk spindles of Verbatims @ $29.99 thru Jun 21.

Office Max has 100 pk spindles of Verbatims @ $29.99 thru Jun 21.

So, that makes Best Buy $.04 per disc cheaper... :D

200-pack premium 8X TY silver thermal lacquer DVD-R for $53.99 with free shipping ($.27 per disc) at Supermediastore.com.

I was at Costco at Ellesmere & Warden in Toronto the other day and bought a 50 cakebox of TDK+R-DL for 39.99. Seemed like a good deal, but after checking MID I started to have doubts. IT came up as Ritek SO4. I searched a couple of forums for info but didn't turn up too much. Anyone had experience with this MID. Bill

I was at Costco at Ellesmere & Warden in Toronto the other day and bought a 50 cakebox of TDK+R-DL for 39.99. Seemed like a good deal, but after checking MID I started to have doubts. IT came up as Ritek SO4. I searched a couple of forums for info but didn't turn up too much. Anyone had experience with this MID. Bill

I've burned about 50 of them using either my LG burner (in my computer) or on my Pioneer 640's. I've never had a failure or a problem playing them back on a wide variety of DVD players.

Don't be so quick to panic about a Ritek MID. They OEM for a lot of manufacturers and they will produce excellent media or junk based on the client's specifications and price-per-unit requirements. In this case, the TDK+R DL's are solid.

I was at Costco at Ellesmere & Warden in Toronto the other day and bought a 50 cakebox of TDK+R-DL for 39.99. Seemed like a good deal, but after checking MID I started to have doubts. IT came up as Ritek SO4. I searched a couple of forums for info but didn't turn up too much. Anyone had experience with this MID. Bill

Doesn't $40 for 50 DL discs seem a bit low to you? The Ritek DL media has been released in several different flavors. These are the newest 8x discs. As is always the case, they will burn horribly in some drives, and OK in some drives. As a class, the Ritek DL discs do not have a very good record for longevity once burned. Use with caution and keep expectations low.

FWIW, you can often get Verbatim DL media for around $1.50 each on sale, and this would be a far better value than the Ritek DL at $.80 each IMHO.

Best deal for DL discs right now:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130008

Now that's a good deal, I think I'll get a spindle to try in my new EH-55. The Windata DL's I had wouldn't format. They also didn't work in my ES-15s & ES-25. They only worked in my EZ units which I no longer have. I'm sure the Verbs would work fine in the ES units. Thanks for the tip Spyder:) At 72 cents a disc final cost it's well below my $1/disc standard.

Now that's a good deal...Thanks for the tip Spyder:) At 72 cents a disc final cost it's well below my $1/disc standard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817130008

=

Verbatim 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL 20 Packs Cake Box Branded Disc - Retail

Original Price: $32.99
You Save: $3.00
$29.99

:eek: Did I miss something? :confused:

:oI thought it was for 50. Seemed too good to be true:(
As you can tell I'm not too up on DLs:D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817130008

=

Verbatim 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL 20 Packs Cake Box Branded Disc - Retail

Original Price: $32.99
You Save: $3.00
$29.99

:eek: Did I miss something? :confused:

it's an ok deal, but the tax and shipping ($5.99) pretty much kill it

It's not exactly cheap, but it's also for Verbatims that work.

One of the weekly ads had 50 Memorex DL for $40, but I don't recall which one. I won't touch those POS discs ever again.

I've bought the Verb DLs on sale for 20@$25 before. Can't remember if it was Office Max, or Best Buy.

BB has those every few months. That's why I specified newegg was the best deal right now.

It's not exactly cheap, but it's also for Verbatims that work.

One of the weekly ads had 50 Memorex DL for $40, but I don't recall which one. I won't touch those POS discs ever again.

yeah that's a great point. verbatim for my money is hands down the best brand out there. cc has memorex dl on sale 25 for $20, and i'm so desperate for them i think i may bite...

For those who have a Sam's Club membership, you can get a spindle of 100 Verbatim DVD-R+ (4.7 GB, 16x) for less that $30.

DGK

For those who have Sam's Club membership, you can get a spindle of 100 Verbatim DVD-R+ (4.7 GB 16x) for less than $30...not sure how long that price lasts, but we got them today, so I'd think it will be effective 'til at least Saturday.

DGK

At 30 cents per, and with Verbatim's recent quality control/manufacturing issues, I think I'd just go to Supermediastore or Meritline and get Taiyo Yuden's Premium discs at the same price.

At 30 cents per, and with Verbatim's recent quality control/manufacturing issues, I think I'd just go to Supermediastore or Meritline and get Taiyo Yuden's Premium discs at the same price.

My recent experience with Verbatim is that the -R MIT are excellent, while the +R MIT with the very same Packaging are horse poop!!

::shrug:: w/e...we were there, and they were on sale, so we picked up a package of them. Just wanted to let others know about it.

hey i just noticed those verbatim dls on newegg are now free shipping. the deal gets better...

hey i just noticed those verbatim dls on newegg are now free shipping. the deal gets better...

Well of course the shipping is free now that I just ordered 2 packs last week! :(

$1.50 per is about as good as it's going to get for Verb DLs. When mine arrive, I'll post the ID for everyone here. Newegg is really fast on shipping, so it should be soon.

ID from the newegg.com Verbatim DVD+R DL discs:

INFO : Disc = [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]

:) :) :)

Things different than the bucketload of Verbs I bought quite a while ago;

Blue and purple packaging (rather than white and blue/yellow)
Different writing surface (grainier)
Different color dye (lighter than before)
Different smell (no doubt because of the dye)

BTW, kudos to newegg! The package was about the size of a large toaster and had tons of peanuts. :D

Edit: Oh yeah, only 2 days from ordered to at my door as well!

Cheap price on questionable media:

http://www.buy.com/prod/memorex-50pk-dvd-r-8x-double-layer-media-spindle/q/loc/101/205147220.html

Cheap price on questionable media:

http://www.buy.com/prod/memorex-50pk-dvd-r-8x-double-layer-media-spindle/q/loc/101/205147220.html


spyder!?! Shame on you for posting a link to Memo-Wrecks media!!:D

OK lets see if I can post a intelligent post about DL media this time:D
For anyone with access to a Micro Center, through 7/13 they have Verbatim DVD +R 2.4x DL spindles for $24.99/20 discs. "If" I did my math correct this time:D that boils down to $1.25/disc + tax. I think I'll have to pick me up a spindle of those to finally see how my EH-55 handles DL discs.
I won't mention they also have the dreaded Memo-rex DLs for $9.99/10, or 25 Philips DLs for $24.99.
Oops I mentioned it:D

Verbatim DVD +R 2.4x DL spindles for $24.99/20 discs. "If" I did my math correct this time:D that boils down to $1.25/disc + tax.

That is as cheap as I ever see them, so yeah, snap them up!

Funny how we think of DLs as expensive, when I used to think of $3 as cheap for VHS Maxell XL HiFi T-120s. :eek:

spyder!?! Shame on you for posting a link to Memo-Wrecks media!!:D

Yeah, my bad. :o

However, I did buy some Memo DLs (once, in desperation) for 25 cents per in a hastily made pact with the Devil.

As Charlie Daniels would say:

"I was in a bind,
And I was way behind,
And I was willing to make a deal." :D

I didn't get a single coaster and they are all still functioning properly. I should mention that these were the old 2.4X discs that came in the RED packaging. Someone gave me the ones in the new packaging and I couldn't return them, so I used them on various junk. Only 50% of them worked at all, and most of them I dont' expect to last. :(

Verbatims, Verbatims, Verbatims...at any cost!

Verbatims, Verbatims, Verbatims...at any cost!

Well, they're not DL, but Best Buy has -R and +R Verbs, 50@ $12.99 this week. I notice that the non-sale price has jumped $2 per. Given that, and that I just got my LD player working, and have about 200 titles not available on DVD to transfer LD>DVD, I plan on stocking up.

So, I went to Best Buy to pick up those -R Verbs, and found them marked $11.99, one dollar less than advertised! So, I picked up 4x50, for $50.84, with tax. That's the good news. But, they are Made in India. It also says "Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Company." These are the ones in the dark blue and yellow-orange shrinkwrap. So, does anyone know if these are junk, or are they as good as MIT Verbs?

Office Max has a variety of Verbs on sale that don't show up in their weekly ad...
25 Pks for 6.99
25 pks of DL for $14 iirc
5 pk of (4x)-RW for 8.99

Office Max has a variety of Verbs on sale that don't show up in their weekly ad...
25 pks of DL for $14 iirc


:eek:What does iirc mean? I thought I got a good deal today at Micro Center by getting them 20/$25:(

"IIRC" means "If I recall correctly." That would be a stunning price for Verb DLs. I'll check it out, but I'm almost certain that Wesley C doesn't recall that correctly. :D

"IIRC" means "If I recall correctly." That would be a stunning price for Verb DLs. I'll check it out, but I'm almost certain that Wesley C doesn't recall that correctly. :D

I'd lay money that the DLs are for a 10 pack rather than 25.

That does seem much more likely.

So, Spyder 696969, no comment on my ? about the Indian Verbs, in post #1719?

I'd lay money that the DLs are for a 10 pack rather than 25.
There were so many (price) labels on the shelves, that when I was posting, I couldn't recall correctly which price was for what...:o
But the DLs were in a spindle package that was higher that the 25 pk of -Rs, so there'd have to be at least 25 of them rather than 10. Price is probably in the 20 dollar range, afterall. I was just shocked to see them on display so prominently, after looking thru the weekly ad Sunday and seeing only Memorex discs featured on sale.

So, Spyder 696969, no comment on my ? about the Indian Verbs, in post #1719?

I'm likely to be in the minority when I say that I never had any issues with the MiI Verbs. Probably burned off a good 6-7 spindles of those without even realizing where they were made. (Never thought to check...if it aint broke, don't fix it!) However, I've only used the Indian DL discs, not the singular +/- variety.

I'm likely to be in the minority when I say that I never had any issues with the MiI Verbs.

I was also initially skeptical about MBI discs, but I've had excellent results. I've used a lot of both Verbatim branded MBI (OEM) discs as well as MBI-branded inkjet-printable discs and have never had an issue. They have also produced very good scans. Despite the temptation to consider India-manufactured media as third-tier junk, I've found that MBI has become a serious quality media OEM.

OK lets see if I can post a intelligent post about DL media this time:D
For anyone with access to a Micro Center, through 7/13 they have Verbatim DVD +R 2.4x DL spindles for $24.99/20 discs. "If" I did my math correct this time:D that boils down to $1.25/disc + tax. I think I'll have to pick me up a spindle of those to finally see how my EH-55 handles DL discs.
I won't mention they also have the dreaded Memo-rex DLs for $9.99/10, or 25 Philips DLs for $24.99.
Oops I mentioned it:D

That is as cheap as I ever see them, so yeah, snap them up!

Funny how we think of DLs as expensive, when I used to think of $3 as cheap for VHS Maxell XL HiFi T-120s. :eek:

Sams Club has Verbatim DVD+R DL 8.5GB 2.4X 50 pack (http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=387438)for 59.74 plus tax (that's $1.19 each without tax).

My local store has them in stock so for me it's $63.92 for 50 Verb DLs or $1.27per disc including tax of 7%.

They also have great prices on other Verbs, see prices here (http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/search.do?searchtype=simple&catg=1&simplesearchfor=verbatim&simpleitemtype=0).

Thanks for the reassuring feedback on the MiI Verbs, folks! So far, I've burned 3 with no problems, and feel safer now. :D

Office Depot has their DVD-RW packs of $15 for $10 (same for DVD+RW I think). The *picture* says they're 2x, but I seem to remember that they really switched to 4x in the past year or two. (I should really try some on my XS32's upgraded drive.... but I don't want to go through the hassle of returning them.)

It's "Stock-Up Time" at Office Max:

$22.99 for 100 pk VERBATIM 16X -R/+R

Ad show purple-wrapped +R and blue-wrapped -R.

Good prices on CDs also.

Beware the purple! If you have any choice at all in the matter, always go blue.

100 DVD-R Verbatim for $20:

http://dealmac.com/Verbatim-16-X-DVD-R-Media-100-Pack-for-20-after-rebate-free-shipping-more/241179.html

Beware the purple! If you have any choice at all in the matter, always go blue.

I picked up a spindle of 50 newer-purple Verbatim DVD+Rs during the last best Buy sale a week or two ago to check how they worked and I was really impressed-- they were PAPA discs, just like the old days... (Although I've seen spindles with both the serif [good] and sans-serif [bad] fonts on the plastic so I made sure to get a serif font spindle)

The disc quality scans I've run of them are quite good.

The DVD-Rs also have seemed much better to me. They're still MAP6 but they seem to finally be improving-- I am not seeing the HUGE numbers of errors at the start or end of the disc (Although still seeing elevated errors, but not off-the-chart)..

Verbatim is getting close to getting back off of my "be very wary" list... (wary because they've been very questionable-- sometimes you get a great spindle, sometimes a horrible one)

Has anyone ever purchased slim DVD cases from rima.com? Or any other recommended slim cases?

I need to get more discs and cases. I was looking at their item #6168 for a 100-Pack of slim black cases. I'm currently using Verbatim slim cases from Sam's Club, but the hub holds the discs too firmly & there is no push button release. I'm afraid I'm going to flex a disc too much when removing, therefore I'd like to try another brand, if it's better.

A 100-pack of cases is pretty heavy & not worth shipping by itself. So I would have to add it to an order of discs in order to keep shipping costs under control.

Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I need to get more discs and cases. I was looking at their item #6168 for a 100-Pack of slim black cases. I'm currently using Verbatim slim cases from Sam's Club, but the hub holds the discs too firmly & there is no push button release. I'm afraid I'm going to flex a disc too much when removing, therefore I'd like to try another brand, if it's better.

A 100-pack of cases is pretty heavy & not worth shipping by itself. So I would have to add it to an order of discs in order to keep shipping costs under control.

Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Have a look at these..http://www.genesysdtp.com/index.htm?6dvddetails.htm
I've ordered from here before, with good results, but have not tried the slim cases. Single thin boxes are described as having the push button hubs.
Note-they don't use US Postal service for shipping dvd cases. A 10 pack of single thin boxes goes for $3, and UPS shipping (to my zip code) adds $8.81. 100 pack goes for 18.50 qith estimated shipping at 11.69.
So you may want to try a 10 pk first to see if you like them, before committing to 100.

Has anyone ever purchased slim DVD cases from rima.com? Or any other recommended slim cases?

Haven't tried the slims, but I've gotten assorted other cases from Meritline...ridiculously quick shipping nad good quality.

I saw spider696969 post his Media ID for his Verbatim DL's, so I just wanted to share something with people in here about Media ID's for a different brand.

For a while I have been purchasing PlayO DVD+R DL from Meritline.com because they are less expensive (and have been very good with quality so far).

The ones that I have been buying are branded on top with the PlayO Logo, information about being 2.4 - 8x Speed, etc... and their Media ID is: RICOHJPND01, which according to this site:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Falls in the top range of Second Class Media, so it's nearly First Class (and as I stated before, I've had no problems with them).

Recently, I bought some more PlayO's, but this time got the ones that are white top printable. When I checked the Media ID it was: UMEDISC DL1, which is NOT UME001 (which is at the bottom of Third Class Media according to that site I listed) but still disturbing to me that the same brand (Silver Branded or White Top Printable) could have such a quality range. So far, they are performing OK, but I am still not happy with the White Top Printable ones being so low in Media ID.

Playo served me very well in the past. I recall picking up a gajillion of the -R discs at Staples for 8 cents per. These "cheap" discs have ran the gamut back and forth between nearly every house in both sides of our family from Hawaii to New York in all kinds of conditions and have yet to fail even once in a plethora of players, despite the harsh treatment. :)

However, rather sadly, the info posted by suplex above is correct. Package to package, even when one is only changing media type within the brand, the variance in quality can be extremely disconcerting. Playo certainly isn't the only media guilty of this either. :(

It is indeed a scary time when I run out of media, simply because I buy in such tremendous bulk when I find something good, which, in turn, tends to last me for eons as I don't burn that much.* What was once gold can easily now be garbage. :confused:

*I still have some of the multi-color Fuji discs! :eek:

I think your resounding "success" with Playos is more a testament to the quality of error correction in modern DVD players than it is to the quality of Playo media. Playos do usually burn and play pretty "normal", but the quality scans are horrendous compared to Verbatim-R. I only use Playo for give-aways, test burns and 3rd copies.

I understand Playos show the MCC Code like Verbatims, but I think this is done to set "write strategies" for the burner, not because they are actually made by Verbatim.

A Pal of mine has had several Playo burns so bad they would not play in his "pickier" DVD Player. This is an older model with presumably less sophisticated error correction capability.

I understand Playos show the MCC Code like Verbatims, but I think this is done to set "write strategies" for the burner, not because they are actually made by Verbatim.

I actually have some PlayO +R's (from Staples like spyder696969 mentioned) that have the MCC code in them. I never once believed that they were made by Verbatim, in fact I figured they might have found a way to "fake" the Media ID to make it read as "MCC". Either that or they actually are made by Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation, but may still not be up to par with Verbatims. Similar to how when you buy Taiyo Yuden you can get Standard, or Premium grade...maybe Verbatims are Premium and PlayO is Standard.

A Pal of mine has had...

Don't you mean an NTSC or Secam of yours?

Aside from that joke being very bad, the ironic thing about it is that only people who post in this forum would even know what I'm talking about. Say that to someone on the street and just look at their expression.

Don't you mean an NTSC or Secam of yours?

Aside from that joke being very bad, the ironic thing about it is that only people who post in this forum would even know what I'm talking about. Say that to someone on the street and just look at their expression.

:D I just had an eerily similar conversation the other day with a "PAL" about Taiyo Yudens. :D

Has anyone ever purchased slim DVD cases from rima.com? Or any other recommended slim cases?

I need to get more discs and cases. I was looking at their item #6168 for a 100-Pack of slim black cases. I'm currently using Verbatim slim cases from Sam's Club, but the hub holds the discs too firmly & there is no push button release. I'm afraid I'm going to flex a disc too much when removing, therefore I'd like to try another brand, if it's better.

A 100-pack of cases is pretty heavy & not worth shipping by itself. So I would have to add it to an order of discs in order to keep shipping costs under control.

Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I have used a lot of Rima CD polyboxes, such as 6230, and they have a good button release. The info for the 6168 says it has a button release, so they probably do. I prefer the CD sized, regular width boxes. CD sized lets me get more shelves in the same area, and the regular width allows enough area for a good edge label. What ever you buy, I recommend polyboxes, as they are much stronger than the hard plastic in CD jewel cases, and I recommend the clear sleeves, as they make it easy to add your own cover. The 6168 meets both those criteria.

Has anyone ever purchased slim DVD cases from rima.com? Or any other recommended slim cases?

I need to get more discs and cases. I was looking at their item #6168 for a 100-Pack of slim black cases. I'm currently using Verbatim slim cases from Sam's Club, but the hub holds the discs too firmly & there is no push button release. I'm afraid I'm going to flex a disc too much when removing, therefore I'd like to try another brand, if it's better.

A 100-pack of cases is pretty heavy & not worth shipping by itself. So I would have to add it to an order of discs in order to keep shipping costs under control.

Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I got some from Supermedia (though I actually like Rima better usually), probably similar, and they seem fine. I ordered them with some media and other things, so shipping was reasonable.

I was just trying them out, as I generally just use Slim CD cases or even paper sleeves for a lot of my DVD's. The ones I got seem fine. A bit of overkill, though, unless you are going to print or write covers and labels to go into the transparent sleeves. I plan to use them this way for when I do gift DVD's for others. I got mine for $21/100 and that semed like a fair price. They do have the push button in the center of the hub.

There is a very simple, low tech way to make cover sleeves. Just go to www.allmovie.com. Look up the title you want. Click on the "cast" page. Print the page. Trim the page so that the title is on the top edge, the left edge is trimmed so that the margin is removed. Then, trim to the proper length, and width, for the cases you are using. If you are using CD cases, like I do, the cast page usually fits well. But, the synopsis page would have too much cut off at 4 3/4" wide. If using a DVD case, there would be room for it.

I just print these on white paper. But, you could print on different colors for different genres.

Thanks everyone for the comments. I'm going to get the #6168 from rima.com. Some of the first DVDs I burned I did put in jewel cases, but later switched to the DVD size cases. I've had pretty good luck printing covers from cdcovers.cc. I print them 10.25" wide and about 7" high and they fit the slim cases. The edge/spine is a little narrow on the case for proper display of the printed cover, but enough of it shows so you can tell what the title is.

Don't you mean an NTSC or Secam of yours?

Aside from that joke being very bad, the ironic thing about it is that only people who post in this forum would even know what I'm talking about. Say that to someone on the street and just look at their expression.


Oy! (smacks forehead with hand):D

$10.99, TDK 16X -R/+R, 50 pk, Office Max

^^And 100 pk spindles of TDKs at O Max for $19.99.

plus at Office Depot
50 pk Maxell $11.99

I saw a couple of 50-pk. DVD-R MIJ Maxell's at the Sears here for only $5.00 each - should I grab them?

(They also had a couple of DVD+R packs of the same.)