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sonicfrequency
12-09-05, 01:45 PM
Hey techies. Not sure if any of you would know this. I have an n2750w that I just received for an RMA from Viewsonic. When I hook this up to either my cable box or my pc with 1280x720 res and set the tv to 1:1, I get a black space on the sides, bottom and top(underscan I think), like its not mapping right. Does anyone know if theres a fix for this or anything? On the monitor I RMA'ed when I set it 1:1 it had an amazing picture, no underscan or whatever this issue is. sOnIc

sonicfrequency
12-10-05, 02:10 PM
Hmm...well has anyone else had this 1:1 underscan problem? :rolleyes:

wukong
12-12-05, 12:47 AM
I just got an n2750w and had the same problem at first.

To correct it, first of all you need to connect the monitor to your computer via the VGA input. I haven't found a way to fix it using the DVI input.

Next, set your video card output to 1360x768@60Hz. You may need to edit your registry to enable this resolution, or install a generic monitor driver.

Then in the monitor's Picture Menu you should be able to change the Mode from AUTO to 1360X768. This mode is locked at 1:1. Hit Auto Adjust and enjoy.

Hope that fixes it for you. Loving this monitor.

sonicfrequency
12-12-05, 11:42 AM
I only use dvi and component. I emailed Viewsonic, now only if theyll ever get back to me about this...

sonicfrequency
12-13-05, 01:03 AM
I guess some guy posted on newegg about this same problem? Viewsonic we need some help....haha where ever are you guys??? :confused:

ChrisFul
12-13-05, 10:50 AM
Ive not used my new n2750w as a PC monitor, but i did have some issues in 1:1 with some overscan/underscan when hooked to my cable box. On certain channels (basically the HD channels that show content in 4:3). All i had to do was adjust the positioning on the OSD menu and that fixed the problem right off.

sonicfrequency
12-13-05, 06:39 PM
Yeah but its not picture alignment thats an issue, I believe the pictures pretty well centered. Connected to my PC through components or DVI (ATI AIW) at 1280x720, not only does the whole picture not fit the whole screen causing black bars all around(underscan), but the image goes underneath the black bars (overscan). So the underscanned black bars have an overscanned picture underneath it. This happens with TV too! Its just you cant notice the under and over scanning because you dont have a mouse cursor to see how much your missing! I mean come on Viewsonic whats the problem? Dont buy one of these until this issues fixed, if youd like to use your whole screen :p

sOnIc

sonicfrequency
12-13-05, 09:14 PM
Ok, messing with my vid card settings, Ive found the lcd's resolution is set to 640x432. At this resolution theres no over or underscanning. Maybe it has something to do with image scaling gone hay wire? Any suggestions? I paid 700 bucks for a monitor with a resolution of 640x432 jeesh

:rolleyes:

sOnIc

Tinker
12-13-05, 10:11 PM
I've been using the same TV as a PC monitor and have no issues and it actually have zero over scan or under scan. I just set the vid card (SLI 7800GTs) via DVI to 1280x720 and the monitor to 1:1 and its perfect mapping. Just wondering if you might want to deinstall all the video drivers and reload from fresh and see if the drivers pick up the TV as a Viewsonic 2750 and then see what the systems see the rez of the TV is.

EDIT: BTW is the vid card only connected to the TV by just one input, that is you are not trying to connect both inputs (component and DVI) from the card at the same time are you. Just a guess.

sonicfrequency
12-14-05, 12:37 AM
Well thanks for the reply, I deffinetly appreciate it, not many people can attempt to tackle the issue. I think its with the newer models. I was told by a rep that the newer specs (those on newegg) were incorporated with the october 2005 and newer models, and the older specs(those on amazon) were the specs of the september 2005 and older models. Maybe something changed with these new models, or maybe mines just defective? When was yours made? Im thinking they changed the native resolution with the newer models... :confused:

sonicfrequency
12-14-05, 02:07 AM
Viewsonic changed their resolution, those sneaky ripper offers....the new spec sheet was posted not long ago on viewsonic.com. The new resolution is 1360x768, which doesnt match up with hdtv and 1280x720. Can we say :eek:

martyj19
12-14-05, 07:17 AM
Viewsonic changed their resolution, those sneaky ripper offers....the new spec sheet was posted not long ago on viewsonic.com. The new resolution is 1360x768, which doesnt match up with hdtv and 1280x720. Can we say :eek:

More pixels is better. There is nothing magic or better about "matching up with an HD resolution". However, I agree that changing panels on the same model number was not the best choice.

Tinker
12-14-05, 11:20 AM
Viewsonic changed their resolution, those sneaky ripper offers....the new spec sheet was posted not long ago on viewsonic.com. The new resolution is 1360x768, which doesnt match up with hdtv and 1280x720. Can we say :eek:

Viewsonic site still has the 2750 as a 1280x720

Viewsonic US
LCD Panel Type 27" color TFT active matrix, wide 1280x720 LCD
Display Area 23.5" horizontal X 13.2" vertical; 27.0" diagonal
Optimum Resolution 1280x1024
Contrast Ratio 900:1 (typ)
Viewing Angle 176° horizontal, 176° vertical
Response Time 8ms gray-to-gray (avg)
Brightness 550 cd/m2 (typ)
Light Source Long life, 50,000 hrs. (typ)
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Glass Surface Anti-glare, anti-reflective coat
INPUT PC RGB analog (75 ohms, 0.7 Vp-p)
TV TV/cable, composite (RCA), component YPbPr/YCbCr, S-video
Audio 3.5mm mini stereo audio in/out and RCA (left/right) audio in
RGB Frequency Fh: 30~64kHz, Fv: 60~75Hz
Sync H/V separated (TTL)
Digital DVI with HDCP (content protection)
Tuner NTSC
AUDIO OUTPUT Speakers 2x10-watt SRS WOW
INPUT SIGNAL TV/Video Comp. 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
COMPATIBILITY PC Compatible from VGA up to 1280x1024 non-interlaced, 1280x720 (preferred)
Mac®** Power Mac™ G3/G4/G5 up to 1280x1024, 1280x720 (preferred)
CONNECTOR Analog 15-pin mini D-sub (VGA)
Digital DVI

Viewsonic Europe
List it also as a 1280x720 panel.


The 3270 is a1366x768 but the 2750 is 1280x720. So either the sites are wrong or who ever you got the info from about the panels being 1360x768 (they dont even make a LCD with that as native rez) is.

sonicfrequency
12-14-05, 12:29 PM
Yeah, here it is: http://viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/compchart_lcdtv.pdf they just posted it for the most part...

martyj19
12-14-05, 01:45 PM
Yeah, here it is: http://viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/compchart_lcdtv.pdf they just posted it for the most part...

The product page says it is 1280x720 both at the top and on its own PDF brochure. It's the Comparison Chart that disagrees. Undoubtedly an editing error in the Comparison Chart.

It is good to get used to the idea that specs are often misquoted on HT equipment. It happens constantly.

Tinker
12-14-05, 01:53 PM
Yeah, here it is: http://viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/compchart_lcdtv.pdf they just posted it for the most part...
If you notice in the text on the left they still describe the 3270 as a 1366x768 and not 1360x768 that is stated on the chart for optimal rez. So I am guessing that optimal rez is not the native rez on the panel. But its intresting to see that the 2750 is now the same optimal rez as the 3270 so it looks like the 2750 might have switched from a 1280x720 to a 1366x768 panel if that chart is correct. Its seems it might be logical since more 1366x768 rez TVs are now appearing. At least its still a true 16:9 ( 1366x768 1.77) panel and not a 16:10/15:9 (1280x768 1.666) one.

sonicfrequency
12-14-05, 02:15 PM
Yeah I deffinetly agree, atleast its still 16:9. But Im almost certain Viewsonic switched the resolution to 1360x768 as this resolution is what I have the components set to with my ATI card and components out and it matches nice, except for the image has to be panned across. Why would Viewsonic change the panels and yet not inform any of the consumers. This has become quite the compatability headache... :( Any suggestions?

sonicfrequency
12-14-05, 02:18 PM
So Tinker, your saying the native res is 1366x768 even though Viewsonic doesnt state it? My ati card wont go to that res! Hehe all I want is the native resolution of this thing....its obviously not 1280x720 as is the older model n2750w I had (pre Oct 2005)

Tinker
12-14-05, 02:32 PM
So Tinker, your saying the native res is 1366x768 even though Viewsonic doesnt state it? My ati card wont go to that res! Hehe all I want is the native resolution of this thing....its obviously not 1280x720 as is the older model n2750w I had (pre Oct 2005)

Thats what I am just guessing from the comparo chart (which could be a misprint or wrong) but the specs still say its 1280x720 for the set. I would believe the specs over the chart. But it could happen since a lot of the newer LCD TVs have the 1366x768 rez now and less with the 1280x720. My vid card (ATI 9700pro) on my 2nd HTPC will not support 1366x768 either with my HP/Sharp 37" LCD (Native rez 1366x768). I just set it up as 1280x720 and used the HP's sync feature and its a perfect scaled with no over/under scan. If the electronics is good on the TV, there will be little diffs that you can see between 1280x720 vs 1366x768. I have 3 LCD TVs I use as monitors. The 2750 on my gaming rig, a BenQ 26" (1280x768 15:9) that was just replaced by the 37" HP on my 2ndary HTPC and all are set at 1280x720 and they all look fine so dont get all hooked up on a perfect 1:1 mapping. But if you can not get an image on the screen that meets your requirement then return the set and get another brand.

Tinker
12-14-05, 02:37 PM
Yeah I deffinetly agree, atleast its still 16:9. But Im almost certain Viewsonic switched the resolution to 1360x768 as this resolution is what I have the components set to with my ATI card and components out and it matches nice, except for the image has to be panned across. Why would Viewsonic change the panels and yet not inform any of the consumers. This has become quite the compatability headache... :( Any suggestions?
If 1360x768 works except for panning then why not use ATI's HD panel adjustment tool in the CC and fit the image to the screen size. You will not get a 1:1 map but in most cases you will never notice esp on a 27" screen. I have to do it on my Sony 60SX955 LCD RPTV since the Sony's native rez (what ever it is) is not support by the vid card and I have use some custom rez so the image will fit the screen with min overscan.

sonicfrequency
12-15-05, 01:17 AM
Either way this whole Viewsonic thing sucks. It seems like they switched panels with different resolutions without attempting to inform their distributors or the consumers. By the looks of it, this TV will not go fully 1:1 with any resolution and with 1360x768, set to 16:9 instead of 1:1 (the new resolution on viewsonics product comparion sheet) it still has to pan. This blows. Im sure other people are going to post on here with oct 2005 models or later with the same probs....so you watch this thread live on because Viewsonic thought they could dupe thousands...

VooDooAddict
12-16-05, 11:42 PM
"November 2005" ... I've got black borders at 1280x720 1:1 and even like this the pixels aren't maping right. WTF. I'm seriously pissed off I spent many weeks researching for a 1280x720 pannel to not deal with this crap. I'm taking it back. The primary use was for PC. I thought I'd be safe with Viewsonic since thier background is monitors.

Unless they have a monitor that was manufactured before oct '05 I want a refund.

sonicfrequency
12-17-05, 11:03 AM
figures. Ill probly sell mine. Great monitor all except for the pixel mapping

VooDooAddict
12-17-05, 02:26 PM
figures. Ill probly sell mine. Great monitor all except for the pixel mapping

I can't call it a great monitor. The black levels are "ok" the stand is unadjustable, no HDCP, no descrete IF on/off or Input commands. The speekers are non removbable, the remote is poor.

I bought it for the 1280x720 for use with a PC. If it accepted 1360x768 over the DVI then "maybe" i'd consider it acceptable. As is though it's one of the most disapoiniting purchases I've ever made. After a good solid month of researching 26-32" LCD TVs in my spare time, my time has been wasted. I'm going to be calling viewsonic on monday to let them the silent pannel switch has lost them a customer. If they had given it a new model number and disconitnued the old one ... then I would have understood. Hell they have done the above with Plenty of 19" 4:3 LCDs.

Still fuming....

sonicfrequency
12-18-05, 02:21 PM
Have fun trying to get ahold of them. Everytime I call I get expected wait time of greater than 20 mins. Even waited a few hours a couple times and got nothing...

Goldfingiz
12-22-05, 01:50 PM
I have the same monitor and i'm having the same issue. I just connected it to my PC via DVI, set my resolution to 1280x720 and set the monitor to 1:1. Everything is pixel perfect, but I get black borders around the screen. It's perfectly centered though and there is no overscan, everything that should be on the picture is, but I have a boder of about an inch on each side and about a half inch on the top/bottom. The picture still looks very clear though. Almost too clear.

sethk
12-30-05, 04:08 PM
I think some video cards now support 1366x768.
I just got a new N2750W and it is definitely a 1366x768 monitor. I see the perfect sharpness when using 1:1 and 1280x720 (currently connected over VGA) with the black border but I can't get a 1366x768 resolution on this video card which I think would be a perfect 1:1. I will have to try the 1360x768 trick.
As long as I can get 1:1 on my PC I dont really care which resolution the monitor is, but I am slightly pissed that they advertise 1280x720 on their web site which is patently false.

rtraynor
12-31-05, 01:36 AM
Mine is 1280x720 with a manufacture date of November 2005 and purchased two weeks ago.

It will primarily be a TV but I found no problems with VGA or DVI at 1280x720: it maps 1:1 and fills the screen. For the money, I can't complain (CA$850).

I had it running HDTV/DVI (at a friends) this evening and it was pretty impressive... so, I'm learning it's more about the source than the LCD.

The only short coming I have found it there is no 4x3 zoom - so if a SD broadcast is in a letterbox format, I can't get it to scale to fill the screen.

I'll be keeping it as an introduction to LCD's and a stepping stone to a bigger LCD as the technology matures. Cheers.

Kei Clark
12-31-05, 02:06 AM
I'm totally confused at the comments. Are you all saying that the LCD cannot be used at 1360x768 at 1:1 but can do so at 1280x720? For HTPC, having that extra res should be a positive, not a negative, if the display has a decent scaler.

sethk
01-14-06, 10:06 AM
To answer the question, yes my particular TV can display 1360x768 at 1:1 and yes that is a benefit when using it as a PC monitor.

I think some other people might be confusing what 1:1 means.

1:1 means that there is no blurring on pixels when using the native resolution of the screen NOT that it fills the screen at a particular resolution. Just because you dont see black bars doesnt mean that you have a true 720p set. Heck I can fill the screen using 800x600.

A good test to see if you truly have 1:1 and 720p is to connect a PC set to 1280x720, set the TV to 1:1 mode and see if the text looks sharper and you have a black border. If you get no black border when you set it to 1:1 and the picture looks just the same then you probably have 1:1 @ 720p. (A better test would be to download one of the 720p test images with alternating 1 pixel black and white grid lines - this image looks blurry on a 1366x768 display and razor sharp on a true 720p.)
I can fill the screen perfectly with 720p on my model and it looks 'OK', but at 1360x768 it suddenly locks into razor sharp mode, with every pixel on the display corresponding exactly to 1 pixel on the PC. There is no blurring at all. To be honest the difference when watching video is minor (the built in scaler is good) but the difference when using it as a PC is huge. I can also notice the difference when playing 720p games.

afrostyled
01-23-06, 07:26 PM
I just purchased the n2750w and this thread is helping me understand several issues, but I'm still not 100% clear. I purchased the n2750w with the primary intent of using it to watch DVDs. I have a dell dimension 4700C with a Radeon X300 video card, and I get the black bars in 1280x720 with 1:1.

For using the tv as a monitor, it seems I should stick to DVI 1280x720 with 1:1 since the text is clear and my video card doesn't support 1360x768. I miss out on some available screen real-estate, but at least things are clear. Should I consider instead VGA, isn't there a loss in quality?

For using the tv for watching DVDs from my pc, should I also stick with DVI 1280x720 with 1:1? If I switch to 1280x768 with 1:1 the black bars dissapear above, but I lose my good aspect ratio. If I switch to 1280x768 with 16:9 I get green distortions in the image. 1280x1024 with 16:9 looks good, except the height of the movie is reduced making everyone look fat.

Finally, I am considering buying a DVD player to dedicate to the monitor. I am thinking of gettring one that upscales (such as the Samsung hd950). Is this the appropriate choice of DVD player? Will it balk at this whole 1366x768 issue or will it nicely fill the screen?

Thanks for any help.

MiBz
01-23-06, 08:13 PM
I have the same 2750W but mine is an Oct 2005 build. Native Res is 1280 x720 and works like a charm at that res. Razer sharp. Only complaint is the sleep function doesnt work on anything but the coax (RF-TV) input.


Now about not being able to display 1366x768, unless your using a really old graphics card this shouldnt be a problem for your PC. It's your MONITOR driver that needs updating. You're probably using the old 2750W driver that tells your vid card that your 2750W needs 1280 x720, when it really wants 1366x768

Try this for a quick fix..in your PC device manager set your monitor to N3250W instead, it's same res as what your 2750W is expecting. Then the 1366x768 should show up in your available resolutions. If not update your ATI CAT driver or your nVidia Nforce driver.

Let me know how it goes.

afrostyled
01-23-06, 09:13 PM
Great suggestion, but I'm falling short in implementation here. I downloaded the driver from Viewsonic for XP (I run home). It appears to be a one-size-fits-all driver that intuits your display. So in my device manager, I now have the n2750w to select from (in addition to the plug and play I was using before) but I can't force it to go to a different model. With the new driver, everything is basically the same. Any suggestions?

MiBz
01-23-06, 09:43 PM
No problem ...here's from memory...for XP

download the latest XP Monitor driver from Viewsonic and expand it.
Viewsonic Multidisplay XP Drivers Nov 2005 (http://www.viewsonic.com/support/drivers/download.cfm?key=37)


then right click my computer
Manage (go to device manager)

click on (expand) Monitors

find your Viewsonic N2750W, right click ...Update Driver

then select "No not not this time "(for windows to search for a driver at MS)
then select "Install driver from specific location"
then select "Don't search I will choose driver"

Click HAVE DISK and point to the driver you downloaded.

then UNSELECT the check box to Show only compatible hardware.

Go into Viewsonic and select the N3250W


that should do it...

afrostyled
01-23-06, 10:12 PM
Excellent. So I now have the N3250w selected as my display, and I can select the 1360x768 screen resolution. Unfrotunately, I get a lot of green wavy pixallation flowing through the display at that resolution, and I am back to using 1280x720. SHould I be setting something in the settings/advanced section of the display properties?

Thanks again for your help!

MiBz
01-23-06, 10:21 PM
Not sure why you're getting wavy pixelation, what connector are u using , VGA or DVI ?

afrostyled
01-23-06, 11:09 PM
Using DVI, but I'm only getting the green distortions at the 1360x768 resolution, not at 1280x720.

MiBz
01-24-06, 07:51 AM
I'm stumped on why it would give you wavy distortion at it's native res. Although I'm only going by earlier posts on this thread that indicate that Viewsonic upped the res on the N2750W to 1366x768 on Nov 2005 builds and later. I have no way of verifying this.

If the res is in fact 1366x768 on your panel, the N3250W driver should do the trick. It can't be a timming issue since all Lcd's are at 60hz. Are you sure your native res isnt 1280x720 and you have some windows desktop scalling happening on the 2750 due to another monitor connected or was connected before ?

afrostyled
01-24-06, 08:51 AM
It's at 60hz for sure, and I don't think the desktop scaling is an issue, since the picture looks perfect at 1280x720, just smaller than the size of the screen. I'm stumped too.

sethk
01-25-06, 06:44 PM
You need to go to the picture menu (I'm at work so I'm doing this from memory, will update it at home) choose 1360x768 for the resolution and 1:1 for display mode or aspect ratio - whatever its called.) Unless you do both, you get the uneven display (on my pc / viewsonic) at least.
When you select both of these, the picture will fill teh display and be 1:1 (or very close). If parts of the picture look sharp and parts blurry you can adjust this with the fine tuning option in the picture menu.

Cards Fan
01-27-06, 01:23 PM
I plugged my computer into the new n2750w last night and got the black bars at 1280x720 at 1:1 with DVI input. I can switch to 16:9 and fill the screen, but lose sharpness. I have a DVDO iScan HD+ on order, don't know what to expect out of it, but it might help to resolve the 1366x768 native question.

justG0
01-29-06, 12:45 AM
I was ready to pull the trigger on this LCD and then ran into this thread. I also read the reviews on newegg (where this LCD has 5 *) and saw other people commenting also that the native res is 1360 x 768. Has anyone tried using PowerStrip to create a custom res of 1360 x 768? Here's a post of a person who succesfully used this tool to get perfect picture on this monitor:

Pros: Excellent Color
Very Bright
1360x768 hidden resolution

Cons: Black levels

Other Thoughts: I've read all these reviews but let me tell you how to get the most out of this monitor. I've tried DVI mode and 1280x720 is the best res for it and it has black bars around it as with vga mode. If you want to fit the screen perfectly with 1:1 ratio and 1360x768, download a small tool called PowerStrip and make a custom resolution of 1360x768 in VGA mode. After you set the resolution the monitor will then say 1024x768 and the screen won't fit right at first. What you have to do is hit the picture button on the remote and scroll down to "mode" and cycle through the various resolutions untill you hit 1360x768. After you select it auto adjust the screen also from the picture menu and that's all folks. The text is sharp and it's on 1:1 ratio with lots of desktop space.


I would really appreciate someone try this out and post their experience. If this works, then I am going to get this. Need it before the big game next Sunday - Go Hawks :-)

dotcombust
01-31-06, 06:00 PM
you guys know you CAN add a custom resolution in your display property settings? So that say if resolutions 1366x768 or even 1280x720 arent options- you should be able to add them without manually altering the registry or even using power strip. I've only seen this option in WinXP Pro under display property - settings - add custom resolution button .. gl with that :)

btw- I just purchased a n3250W viewsonic- very happy with it! My 5th LCD display (all different brands) and like the rest of them, all needed calibrating out of the box ... Cnet has a good article for newbs (like myself) to help calibrate your set that you might find helpful

gamefreak
02-01-06, 10:15 PM
I have a December 2005 built N2750W and have tried all of the tricks and tweaks listed on this thread (and others) to get this monitor to display 1360x768 full-screen without any success. It is obvious that the panel has a native resolution of 1360x768 but it acts as if the electronics are not compatible with that resolution.

If I set my video card to 1280x720 and set the monitor to 1:1 I get a perfectly clean picture but have the black bars surrounding the screen. If I set both the video card and monitor resolutions to 1360x768, the video is clipped (you cannot see the task bar, start button, or perimeter icons) and still have the black bars surrounding the screen. The only way to fill the screen is to select something other than 1:1 and then you suffer with the distortion and/or fuzzy text. I can set the video card to 1024x768 (with the monitor on Auto)and it vertically fills the screen (to illustrate that the video card and monitor can display 768 lines of text at 1:1) but it obviously has the wide black bars on the sides.

I have tried the VGA connector and the DVI connector. Even though I am able to set my video resolution to 1360x768, I installed PowerStrip and could not improve the situation using that program. I have used the correct N2750W video driver, the N3250W driver, and the default monitor driver that allows any resolution that the video card is capable of producing, all combinations achieved similarly dismal results.

Has anyone received a response from Viewsonic on this issue?? It is frustrating to purchase a 27” TV/Monitor and only get 25” of usable screen.

Please help!

Tinker
02-01-06, 11:04 PM
OK just give this a try...use 1368x768 for the 1366x768 panel since the numbers must be divisable by 8. I can not test since my 2750 accepts 1280x720 native rez.

justG0
02-02-06, 06:56 AM
Hmm, not sure why you are having this problem. I just got my viewsonic n2750w today and I have it running at 1360 x 768 via the VGA connector. I have 7800GTX and I used the nVidia advanced settings to add a custom res of 1360 x 768 @ 60 Hz. Then on the TV side, I changed the mode to 1360 x 768, Aspect Ratio to 1 : 1 and finally (most important) did an Auto Adjust (or PC Auto). The last step was key to fit the screen properly without any distortion/clipping. Works great :D

I have a December 2005 built N2750W and have tried all of the tricks and tweaks listed on this thread (and others) to get this monitor to display 1360x768 full-screen without any success. It is obvious that the panel has a native resolution of 1360x768 but it acts as if the electronics are not compatible with that resolution.

If I set my video card to 1280x720 and set the monitor to 1:1 I get a perfectly clean picture but have the black bars surrounding the screen. If I set both the video card and monitor resolutions to 1360x768, the video is clipped (you cannot see the task bar, start button, or perimeter icons) and still have the black bars surrounding the screen. The only way to fill the screen is to select something other than 1:1 and then you suffer with the distortion and/or fuzzy text. I can set the video card to 1024x768 (with the monitor on Auto)and it vertically fills the screen (to illustrate that the video card and monitor can display 768 lines of text at 1:1) but it obviously has the wide black bars on the sides.

I have tried the VGA connector and the DVI connector. Even though I am able to set my video resolution to 1360x768, I installed PowerStrip and could not improve the situation using that program. I have used the correct N2750W video driver, the N3250W driver, and the default monitor driver that allows any resolution that the video card is capable of producing, all combinations achieved similarly dismal results.

Has anyone received a response from Viewsonic on this issue?? It is frustrating to purchase a 27” TV/Monitor and only get 25” of usable screen.

Please help!

gamefreak
02-02-06, 09:36 AM
Just go,

I am doing the exact same procedure with very different results. I even tried changing my radeon card to a G-Force card with similar results. The final auto adjustment aligns the pixels but leaves the perimeter of the screen black, any the task bar and any perimeter icons are not visible.

What is the build date of your monitor??

justG0
02-02-06, 04:44 PM
Dec 2005 -- bought from newegg. Also I discovered that all these options work via VGA onlly. If you connect thru DVI, then you are very limited in the adjustments that can be made and I could not get the picture to size up properly.

Just go,

I am doing the exact same procedure with very different results. I even tried changing my radeon card to a G-Force card with similar results. The final auto adjustment aligns the pixels but leaves the perimeter of the screen black, any the task bar and any perimeter icons are not visible.

What is the build date of your monitor??

Snackeric
02-07-06, 02:15 PM
I have the same monitor, Dec build, and am experiencing the same problems. Any suggestions on how to get my ATI Radeon Xpress to do a custom resolution? Or I'm a stuck with fiddling with Powerstrip? Any help would be much appreciated.
thanks

sethk
02-12-06, 02:49 PM
1366 is not divisible by 8, but from what I've read it is possible with some of the newer cards and possibly with some aftermarket tools like powerstrip (can't find the post where I read this.)
On a 9800pro its not possible even with powerstrip. 1368 does not look good, 1360 is a better option. The missing pixels are not even noticeable from more than 2ft away even if you were looking for them, so as far as a native resoltion goes, this works just fine.

wukong
02-23-06, 04:55 AM
I was happy with using VGA to connect my n2750w, but DVI is clearly preferable, so I continued to tinker and finally got it working and thought I'd post the update. I have an nVidia 7800GT, so I don't know how well this will work with ATI cards/drivers, but I think the same results are achievable with Powerstrip.

Just like with VGA, you want to add a custom resolution of 1360x768 but at 68 Hertz as opposed to 60. If the refresh rate is set lower than 68 I get green sparkles. It should be noted that since this isn't a standard refresh rate, use at your own risk.

When intially switching the video card to that resolution with the nVidia drivers, the monitor will not be in 1360x768 mode. You have to go into the Advanced Timing options and set the horizoinal and vertical "Back-end active" options to 1360 and 768. After that the monitor will pop into 1360x768 1:1 mode and you should have a borderless pixel perfect digital picture.

You may have to do a fresh install of your nVidia drivers before you try this if you were previously running in VGA.

bakou
04-08-06, 01:06 AM
Yes, I have had this screen working at 1360x768 1:1 DVI, 1368x768 1:1 DVI and 1360x768 VGA. It is however, very picky. There are 720p models, but they did start producing them with 1366x768 pixels. Using geforce cards the only real way to get 1:1 mapping is with the advanced timing panel in the drivers.. Due to some wierd issue between the geforce dvi ports and the screen you'll need to set the refresh rate to over 65Hz (65.9 works well for me on dvi, 62Hz works well on VGA, but 60Hz seems to work better AFTER the screen has been on for a while..), but although I had most games working fine before over DVI, I started using VGA and now switching back to DVI the only game I can play without the screen switching to 1080p and getting all garbled (?!) is Elder scrolls: Oblivion. Definately a finnicky display, although both DVI and VGA can run at 1:1. Don't bother with running this at anything but native res or 720p, or you start getting crappy overscan... I'd actually recommend VGA as it looks fine if not better, I think I'm about to plug back in my VGA cable as I write this.

Goldfingiz
08-24-06, 08:11 AM
Just thought i'd chime in. Been using this display since December and i've been dealing with the borders. It's crystal clear at 1280x720 at 1:1 but the borders are somewhat annoying. I also realized it will display 1:1 with the XBOX360 but I still get the borders.

Is there any way around this or are we stuck with this issue?

ProtonXX
01-08-07, 03:57 PM
I have the same issue.
1280x720 with black bars
Blurry Overscan 13xx 768 Resulution

Tried calling Viewsonic for a RMA but they just blamed my video cards (used geforce & radeon to dispute that claim). Only thing i can think of doing is avoiding this TV & going with another brand until someone fixes these annoying 1:1 HDTV problems

xenon2000
05-04-07, 09:39 PM
EDIT: After thinking a little more about this. Is the issue that if you feed it 1360x768 via DVI->HDMI that the TV is NOT doing 1:1 mapping, but instead down scaling it to fit only 1280x720 pixels on the LCD? Thus inducing artifacts and unnessasary bordering? If that isn't what is being said, then read on with my original comments below.

After reading this thread, page 1 and 2, I am not sure how a border around a 1:1 mapped 1280x720 image on a 1366x768 native LCD is concidered underscan or a problem. At 1:1 mapping, it is doing what it should, filling exactly 1280x720 pixels which leaves you 43 pixels L/R and 24 pixels top/Bottom. Where as 1360x768 leaves 3 pixels on L/R and zero T/B at 1:1 mapping.

I have read that most video card setups will only allow you to set the DVI output when it's using a digital signal to a DVI or HDMI input. Thus if the LCD reports that 1280x720 is the highest supported res, then via digital input you are limited to 1280x720 on a 1366x768 native display. Thus a 1:1 mapping will have a border. Hopefully a black border. I hear on some Plasma displays that the border is white or grey.

And thus to get 1360x768 (3 pixels missing on each side) on your 1366x768 LCD, you MUST use the VGA input. Of course this is not true if the Display says it supports 1360x768 on the DVI or HDMI inputs. But obviously if you can't, then VGA does not have that limitations. Of course does not mean that the display will show anything you give it via VGA. Just that the VGA out on your video card can output what you want and ignore monitor suggestions if you will.

It is true that some video card & driver combos will not support all the resolution settings. An Nvidia 7300GT I just tried, did not have a 1360x768 output setting. But did support 1920x1080 and 1280x720. In this case I would have to try PowerStrip to see if I could create a new profile to do it. But I am planning on getting a different video card anyways.

So again, I am failing to see how the TV is failing or malfunctioning in any way? Especially if it is properly doing 1:1 mapping with a border for 1280x720 or near borderless for 1360x768.

Or did I miss the whole thing altogether???