Edit: Room is 95% Done.
Editing to add some before and after photos....Build Log from the start continues below :
Also....to answer a common question, The Pit is my wife's name for the room as in...
"Are you going to spend another night down there working in that Pit ?"


BEFORE:
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AFTER:

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Construction has started in our Home Theater Project. We are building a dedicated theater in an unfinished part of our basement. Half of the basement is already finished and will be converted into a toy room for the kids. Therefore, the stairs, bathroom, etc are already in place so construction will consist of building just the theater and bar/concession area. The unfinished part of the basement (37 X 13) currently opens into two additional rooms. The first room is 10X12 that sits under our sun room. This room will serve as the equipment room. The second room is 12X18 utility room and contains the furnace and hot water heater. This room will also serve as storage. We will be adding a new door into the utility room so it can be accessed without going through the theater.

We moved into this house in October of 2004, and I have reading the forum and planning this Home Theater since about then. Much thanks to all of the forum members who have posted and/or answered my questions on design, construction, etc. I hope to be able to do the same for other members as well from what I learn on this project.


The layout I designed for the theater can be seen below (minus the bar/concession area). The layout was basically dictated by the 3 foundation walls and the other finished part of the basement. This left a 37X13 space to work with. The entry into the theater will consist of a 8X12 bar/concession area that will open into the 29X13 Home Theater.

Additional Inspiriation for the theater layout and column design was taken from Francis Ford Coppola's home theater that can be seen pictured here:

http://www.stevecaseydesign.com/dlahd2ksys.pdf


This add was actually in an old Home Theater magazine that I cut out and saved.

Home Theater Specs: 29X13 Dedicated Front Projection Home Theater with finished dimensions of approx 28.5 X 12.5. Sound control will be addressed with RSIC clips for the side wall framing (DC04) and for the ceiling (DC01), double layer 5/8 drywall and green glue on walls and ceiling. The acoustical treatment will consist of the standard linacoustic/batting covered with GOM.

Other Specs (Original from 1/06) :

Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm Studio 100's)
Projector: TBD (currently using Sanyo Z2)
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White.
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14in.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Fosgate Audionics FAP-T1+/Sherbourn 7/2100A
DVD: HTPC (already built) with MCE 2005 and My Movies for ripped DVD collection
TIVO: HD Tivo + MCE's HD ability.
Multichannel Audio: Pioneer Elite 59avi.


Here is the design and layout for the theater:

http://static.flickr.com/42/85249649_a0e3d0d0f1_b_d.jpg


The biggest obstacle in the project was the HVAC ductwork (and returns) that ran through the basement. To tackle this, we had the ductwork re-routed and moved to the side wall. We will cover the trunk in a soffit, and build a matching one on the other side. There is also a support beam that runs across the room (towards the rear) We will build a soffit around this as well, and connect it to side soffits. Once the stage is completed, we will finish the soffits to a complete square and add a few recessed lights for the stage.

In the location that the HVAC trunk ran under the suport beam, we are going to build a small bookcase. I'm hoping that once the soffits and bookcase are completd, it will look like we designed the room that way, and you won't be able to tell we hid the HVAC trunk inside. Here are pics of the re-routed HVAC trunk and place where it goes under the support beam:

http://static.flickr.com/36/85256494_17395793d3_d.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/36/85266460_7b88226091_d.jpg

Good luck! I have ductwork to deal with in my basement too.

What part of Cincinnati are you in? I'm in the Milford area. Have you looked into the Lutron system for controlling the lighting?

Timon,

I'm in West Chester by 747 and Tylersville. I did look into the Lutron system, but I've been messing with X-10 for years now and have all of the switches I need already. I probably would have went that route as I do like the system, but saving the money allowed me to put $$ towards the sound isolation (green glue and RSIC clips). I've also got an Ocelot X-10 controller that I am going to use for automating both the lighting and all of the A/V equipment with my HTPC.

Have you found any local suppliers for accoustical treatment parts (ex, OC 703, or mineral wool, I think that's what it is called.)? I wanted to go the GG route, but the budget (approval committee) wouldn't go for it. I started construction on my room this weekend. I was able to get 2 walls up.

Timon,

Yes. Although I did end up spending quite a bit of time looking locally.

For Mineral Wool, go to M&M drywall. HD and Lowes had no idea what I was talking about.
For USG acoustic caulk, go to Nextgen Building Supply...they are right next to the Union Terminal.
For Linacoustic, go to Specialty Products & Insulation.
And, last but not least, for wire, connects, bass shakers, etc, go to Parts Express. They are in Springboro, and you can buy just about everything from the catalog from the showroom.

Here are a few more picutes of the unfinished area:

This will be the Home Theater room. You can see the future equipment room off to the left. Access will be through a 32" solid core poplar door with a threshold and weather stripping for sound isoloation.

http://static.flickr.com/41/85264745_90726f8421_d.jpg

The back wall does have a cutout for the fireplace above. Also, the Electrical Panel, Satellite Wiring, Security, and gas piping for the fireplace are all along the back wall. Therefore, the screen wall will be built out from the back allowing access behind it. A proscenium will cover the open space to the left and right of the screen wall as you can see on the plans above.

http://static.flickr.com/38/85264754_5fc0400b3d_d.jpg


This is a shot from the screen wall looking towards the front of the theater and the space where the bar/concession area will be. The utlity room for the furnace and water heater are off to the left, and will be covered by a wall.

http://static.flickr.com/36/85264756_57b1f9d791_d.jpg


Here is a shot of the mess of HVAC ductwork that we cleaned up. Before there were 2 seperate pipes that dropped down and were really in the way. We re-worked them through the joists.

http://static.flickr.com/9/85266459_9d54cd0ac6_d.jpg

Glad to see someone in Cincinnati! I'm on the west side, Covedale to be exact. :)

Whew....Been a while, but I do have some updates. The theater is moving along. Here are some pictures of framing, etc.

Framing Started. Walls taking shape:

http://static.flickr.com/52/109725881_d252e4794d_d.jpg

Framing around the HVAC ductwork (to be a soffit)

http://static.flickr.com/53/109725879_dd82fd0df8_d.jpg

RSIC clips in Action:

http://static.flickr.com/41/109725876_d8900002a7_d.jpg

From the Front Wall looking back towards the bar/lobby area. Support beam wil be included in the soffit that will surround the theater proper.

http://static.flickr.com/55/109725882_03591de7a5_d.jpg

Good to see some Cinci people here. Good Luck on your construction Barhoram!!!

I live in Hebron-NKY now, but just finish signing a contract for building new house in West chester, its Dress house off of 747 (Smith Road, Village of providence - Subdivision).

-Suresh.

Good luck on the build. There's more and more of us popping up around here.

My uncle lives in Mason, right outside Cincy. I looove Cincinnati...it's > Columbus.


Nice build so far.../subscribed

I spent the first 19 years of my life in West Chester, Ohio. Still have friends there. Living outside of Indianapolis now. Had to get closer to home after living in Houston for 5 yrs. Ugh.

Would you mind posting a link to where you buy RSIC clips? I'd like to take a look at them out of curiosity. How much extra cost does it add to the room construction to use them?

Looks like a solid design so far.

I spent the first 19 years of my life in West Chester, Ohio. Still have friends there. Living outside of Indianapolis now. Had to get closer to home after living in Houston for 5 yrs. Ugh.

Would you mind posting a link to where you buy RSIC clips? I'd like to take a look at them out of curiosity. How much extra cost does it add to the room construction to use them?

Looks like a solid design so far.
Reaper,
bpape sells them and has the best price that I found. Dennis Erskine sells them too and the price is close. I used the DC04 clips in my room and took a number of pics of them. Check out this post in my HT thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7295046&&#post7295046)

I haven't installed the regular RSIC clips. The L-Shaped ones are DC-04 clips and are used for walls, garage door openers, etc.

The manufacturer is PAC International (http://www.pac-intl.com/home.html)

Nice shots. Thanks for showing those to me. I probably won't get to build another theater for years but I am already thinking about it ;). It's a sickness, I know. Glad I am in good company though. Haha

Good luck with the build barhoram. I just moved away from Cincinnati last spring. Technically we lived in Maineville, just behind Kings Island. GE was my first job out of college. Pretty good first job. Its just my luck that the Bengals become respectable the season that I leave.
-J

Great to see some interest in my thread/theater build. Things have progressed a bit since my last update....new pics coming soon!

I will see If I can find a shot of one of the DC-01's used for the ceiling. You can see a shot of the DC-04's used to attach the framing to the foundation (see above). I think the total cost for all of the clips was about $800. I used approx 100 of the DC-04's to attach the framing to the foundation walls, to build the soffits, and to attach the sound-proof lighting boxes we built. Approx 100 of the DC-01's were used for the ceiling. The DC-04's are great beacuse the L-shape is very versatile.

Check back for an update with more pics soon!

Time for some updates:

Back Wall (Will build a screen wall with access behind in front of this wall later):

http://static.flickr.com/51/142867108_f169335170_d.jpg


Framing Completed: (looking through door from bar/lobby into the theater)

http://static.flickr.com/55/142867102_82cd9a2eab_d.jpg


Insulation started, Drywall delivered:

http://static.flickr.com/46/157916465_aeaafe078f_d.jpg

(We framed around the bend in the ductwork, and will build a bookcase here on the side wall. Pulled 2 sets of components and and HDMI cable from the equipment room to the bookcase). You can also see the 2 sets of wire runs for the bass shakers that will be installed in the Berkline seats later.

http://static.flickr.com/45/142878966_b42d18ea76_d.jpg

More Insulation.(looking towards back wall). You can see the Channel attached to the RSIC clips on the ceiling:

http://static.flickr.com/47/142878964_32ba18d2f3_d.jpg

4" recessed IC Air Tight Halo lights in the boxes build for sound isolation. Have some additional pictures of the boxes themselves...but can't find them at the moment.

http://static.flickr.com/55/142878962_eac4674880_d.jpg


More pictures hopefully tonite.

More picture updates:

Insulation in the bar/lobby area (sink to be removed soon)

http://static.flickr.com/67/157306652_92dc442111_d.jpg

Box for access to projector and conduit. Cables pulled through the conduit....mount will screw into threaded end of the conduit.

http://static.flickr.com/64/157306651_62d1ac6830_d.jpg


Insulation finished. Drywall arrived (from back of thetaer...looking towards screen wall).

http://static.flickr.com/49/157306648_295393204e_d.jpg

From Screen Wall towards front of the theater.

http://static.flickr.com/67/157306653_a76d51b584_d.jpg

Here are a couple more pictures that I found of the framing and electric completed:

http://static.flickr.com/54/157916461_601d5efc3c_d.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/73/157916462_5a7e72535d_d.jpg


Constructing the boxes to help sound proof the Halo 4" recessed lights:

http://static.flickr.com/45/157915574_0bc16deb8f_d.jpg

Equipment List Update:


Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm) Purchaced.
Studio 100's for Mains (black ash), CC570 (Rosenut) for Center, ADP470's for side surrounds. Studio 20's (Rosenut) for rear surrounds
Projector: TBD (currently using Sanyo Z2)
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White. Purchaced. Nice Screen
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers. Purchaced. Installing shakers now.
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14 inch.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Fosgate Audionics FAP-T1+/Sherbourn 7/2100A
DVD: HTPC (already built) with MCE 2005 and My Movies for ripped DVD collection
TIVO: HD Tivo + MCE's HD ability.
Multichannel Audio: Pioneer Elite 59Avi.

I live just up 747 from you..near milikin..you are doing great work. I finished my "HT" a couple of monthes ago, but i was on a sever budget and basically just framed in a room in the basement, and stuck in a screen and PJ...now i am finishing up the rest of the basement with dreams of a pool table..but i am not sure one will fit. Great seeing your'se come along!!

Looks like you'll have a really nice space when you're done. I also think you'll like the equipment you've put together - though I've not heard the Fosgate piece personally.

Good luck and keep the pics coming.

Bryan

Looking good!

Randy

Project is looking great! Keep up the good work. I love the idea of the bookcase to hide the duct issue.

Looks great, you guys with the basements make me jealous with all this room you have for bar areas and etc in the rear.

Wish Texas was a basement state.

Ronnie

Keep up the good work!!

A couple of more pictures:

Recessed Light and Soundproof box installed. Attached to joists with RSIC clips:

http://static.flickr.com/67/157916464_d3736d7d13_d.jpg


Another shot of the access box and conduit for the projector and mount. Pulled wires through the couduit (component, HDMI, DVI, Cat5, and RS232) to equipment room.
You can see the flex HVAC duct that we installed for all new and existing ductwork in the theater area.

http://static.flickr.com/75/157916463_915c0a1dd5_d.jpg

Putting the finishing touches on the Insulation.

Security System panel framed and insulated. The gaps will be filled in and the panel will be covered (screwed, but still accessable as we don't acccess the panel often) with a MDF green glue sandwich.

http://static.flickr.com/51/142878956_b2106dd2a7_d.jpg


Cleaning up the wiring runs into the equipment room. The metal quad outlet box is the dedicatd 20 amp for the equipment (minus the amps). The white outlet box on the right is the dedicated circuit(s) for the Sherbourn Amp. The white outlet box on the left is tied into the lighting circut, and will be used for the X-10 module needed for lighting control. The plug to the far left is hard wired to the outlet located at the projector and will be plugged into the surge protection with the rest of the equipment.

http://static.flickr.com/66/157915576_6debf1ce0c_d.jpg


Closeup of the hard wired plug for the projector:

http://static.flickr.com/26/157915575_0a268ab5b0_d.jpg

I didn't think you could run standard appliance cord in conduit/inwall.

Looking good, you have got a nice size space for you HT

Oh..sorry..didn't mention this above. The cord itself doesn't run through the conduit. It is connected to standard gauge wire that was used for the rest of the outlets. The connection to the standard plug is made up in the metal box.

Good solution - I'm thinking of using an inlet recepticle.

Bathoram,
Everything looks great and is making me very impatient to start on mine this summer. Can I ask how much height the RISC clips and channel take off the ceiling? I have a 7'10" ceiling and with 2 layers of 5/8" drywall, I am not sure I will have enough headroom with a second row riser.

Pete

Pete,

Should cost you about 3 inches to do the same thing. 1 5/8" for the clips/channel + 5/8" + 5/8" for the drywall.

I had 7'9" of clearance from the floor to the joists before RSIC clips, channel and double drywall. The drywalling is pretty much finished up now, and I just went down and measured 7'6 inches..so that seemed pretty much on. You will probably be looking at 7'7". My 7'9 doesn't seem low at all, so I'm not too worried about the riser.

That makes me feel better. I will be interested to see how it works out for you on the riser. Are you planning on putting the projector in the soffit or some kind of ceilingmount/hush box?

I installed a box for the projector between the joists, and (once covered) will be flush with the ceiling. It allows enough space for the projector outlet on one side and has the opening to the conduit to the equipment room on the other. I did this to allow enough space to access the conduit if we ever wanted to change any of the cables. A threaded metal pipe is secured on one side of the box and drops a few inches below the ceiling. The projector mount will screw into the thread on the pipe and secure the projector. The pipe will also allow for a clean run of the wires to the back of the projector. The only thing you should see on the ceiling is the projector, silver mount, and a few threads of the silver pipe

http://static.flickr.com/64/157306651_62d1ac6830_d.jpg

Nice. I saw that picture, but I wasn't sure how you were hanging the projector. Your space is pretty close in size to mine, plus I am in Cinci regularly for business, so your build seems close to home. ;)

Equipment List Update:

Sub: Velodyne DD15. Purchaced and Arrived! Wow. This sucker is heavy!
Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm) Purchaced.
Studio 100's for Mains (black ash), CC570 (Rosenut) for Center, ADP470's for side surrounds. Studio 20's (Rosenut) for rear surrounds
Projector: TBD (currently using Sanyo Z2)
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White. Purchaced. Nice Screen
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers. Purchaced. Installing shakers now.
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14 inch.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Fosgate Audionics FAP-T1+/Sherbourn 7/2100A
DVD: HTPC (already built) with MCE 2005 and My Movies for ripped DVD collection
TIVO: HD Tivo + MCE's HD ability.
Multichannel Audio: Pioneer Elite 59Avi.

Update:
More photos! Double Drywalling with Green Glue is complete, started Linacoutic/batting installation.

Here are a few quick shots:

Drywall finished, furring strips going up, Linacoustic to follow.

http://static.flickr.com/63/162474064_dcb275f9ae_d.jpg


Drywall finished, testing projector/mount

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Starting to put up the Linacoustic

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You can see the slot left open for one of the 2 side columns each wall will get (and wiring for the sconce that will go on it.) above. The side surrounds will be centered between the two columns on each wall. Can also see the speaker wire and wood for mounting in place.

Here is the back wall.

http://static.flickr.com/58/162427258_2b5185cbc5_d.jpg

The framing for the bookcase to be built is complete. Also, the doors arrived and were installed (solid poplar with a threshold and weather stripping for sound proofing)

Looking good! Did you get the Linacoustic locally or order it? How about the door? I saw in another thread where you can get some specialty lumber companies to cutom-make a door for you with the weather-stripping.

I called around and got the Linacoustic at Specialty Products & Insulation...picked it up at the will call counter. Since I wasn't the normal contractor type, they asked me if it was going into a Home Theater.

I got the doors (and the rest of the trim) at Cox Interiors.
http://www.coxinterior.com/
I specified solid doors pre-hung with threshold and weather stiripping. They came completely assembled, and just needed to be installed. They worked really, really well. Cox does great work. Definitely worth a few extra bucks than the box stores.

Pics of the stage coming later tonite.

Stage being Built:

8" stage with 1/2" double plywood, seperated by roofing felt. All sections of the stage are filled with sand. WOW. What a pain lugging 50+ bags of sand through a wet yard, down the 10 concrete steps through the back basement door. Completely bought Toys R Us out of sand. (Although you can't beat thier dry playground sand). Had to finish it off with a trip to Home Depot for a few more bags of thier construction sand.

http://static.flickr.com/49/162406911_f3717950f1_d.jpg


*Helper installed the Linacoustic behind the stage incorrectly while I was out getting sand :)



Screen wall and Pronescium going up. The top part of the soffit is curved to match the radius of the stage. The rest of the soffit is symetrical around the perimeter of the theater.

http://static.flickr.com/54/162406912_880b026d45_d.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/58/162411893_a9e6a95f4b_d.jpg

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Guess what else showed up!

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Just a heads up on the furring strips. Be sure to plan ahead on what size crown, chair, baseboard moulding that you will be using and that the furring strips provide a good backing for securing the moulding. I ended up putting two rows of furring at the each location to match the width of the molding and provide a nice wide and stable support. I went with a molding at the ceiling that mounts flat instead of the normal crown and the double wide (with a gap between) worked out great. Using the crown it will help to have the furring mounted low enough so that the bottom edge of the moulding rests on the furring.



Also can't tell if you've left some of the furring loose so that you can hide the staples in your inside corners. (or ceilings for moulding free design)

Good tips. Thanks. The furring strips on the bottom of walls and around the doors are about 4 inches wide, so I think I should be ok with the baseboard and door trim (which are the widest). The trim I chose for the top is fairly small, as I wanted the columns to be the focal point of the room once they are in and stained. The only crown that plan on having now will be around the tops of the columns to dress them up a bit...and I think should be ok there too.

Good catch on the loose furring strips. Actually, all of the corner strips and the two on the sides on the long walls are not screwed in. They are just tight enough of a fit that they stay on the wall now without screws.

One other thing to check before you start hanging fabric. When I was working on my first wall with columns I discovered that putting up the furring strips next to an undressed column. made for a later impossible fit. My columns are wrapped in fabric and the wall fabric is fastened to the inside edge of the strips adjacent to the columns. Thats a total of 4 layers of fabric to fit in for each column

I found if I used a folded piece of fabric as a spacer I could judge how tight to fit the strips. Even with the fabric as a spacer I kept the fit on the loose side and the columns went in perfect.

Looking good - see you decided not to cover whole screen wall with Linacoustic and went same height as walls (or was that the mistake).

I do plan on covering the entire screen wall with Linacoustic. We just put that section up quickly so we could get going on the stage. I've got to come back and finish the top part and the ceiling.

Some Updates:

Assembly of the Carada 110" BW Screen:

http://static.flickr.com/50/162411870_91e5ace3b7_d.jpg

First test run of the screen/projector:

http://static.flickr.com/48/162451746_5da19c4370_d.jpg

Eveything is looking great. Screen fits perfectly on the screen wall. With some minimal tweaking, the projector throws a picture the perfect size.

http://static.flickr.com/51/162449024_afd37bd283_d.jpg


A few more shots after finishing Linacoustic / Batting on the side walls.
Also gave the LCR speakers/wiring a test run. Sounding Good!

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Just starting to hang the fabric. Pics of that to come soon. A big thanks for forum member Gpowers for sending me a sample of his GOM. My wife and I loved the color and that's the fabric we went with (Spinel 3582)

A few more pics.

http://static.flickr.com/63/162422879_57cadd5b49_d.jpg


Testing the first row of Berkline 90's and bass shakers...just a little over 12' from the screen.

http://static.flickr.com/64/162422868_59f6e6cfa1_d.jpg


Also mounted and tested the side surrounds.

Bar

Where did you get your linacoutsic? I'm up in Columbus and not as far ahead in my HT room as you are, but I am at the point of trying to find it.

Mark

Never mind about your linacoustic source - read your thread again & found the answer.

OK, Sorry for these multiple posts!

Now I do have a legitimate question:

Went to Specialty products website to place an order, and I don't know how to specify the 1 inch linacoustic.

What exactly is the name of the material that I need to place an order?

What are most of you guys using for furring strips.

3/4 ' by 1.5' which is what is usually found. How are you working the 1" linacoustic into that, without it pushing the fabric out?

thanks for the help.

Mark Lem - Ask for 1" duct liner that comes on 4' x 100' rolls. If you want linacoustic, specify James Mansville (JM) or an equiv from Owens Corning would be Quiet R, type 200 or 300.

Most places basically know it as duct liner (that is it "real" use)

Kermie,

Most of us are ripping down 2x material, ie. I am going to rip 2x6s that are 8' and 10' long. 2x6s will rip to provide 5 -1" x 1.5" boards because they are 5.5 inches wide, the extra 1/2" is lost by the 1/8" removed from each of the 4 cuts. Any thing bigger is a 1/4" actual, ie. 2x8s, 10s and 12s are 7 1/4", 9 1/4" and 11 1/4" repectively, so there is not enough for the blade to eat up. 2x6s get you the most material for the money.

Kermie,

Unlike many of the people here I take 5/4 x 4 and rip in half for furring strips. One board gives approx 1 3/4" wide by 1" thick strips perfect for the 1" Linacoustic. I find the 5/4 is more stable once ripped than 2x4's. There are some that still warp so I only rip as needed. Only problem is finding good supply. The big oranges dont replenish as often as they need to and a lot of the stock is poor. So takes a bit to get enough.

Regards,
Doc

Mark Lem - Ask for 1" duct liner that comes on 4' x 100' rolls. If you want linacoustic, specify James Mansville (JM) or an equiv from Owens Corning would be Quiet R, type 200 or 300.

Most places basically know it as duct liner (that is it "real" use)That would be "John", not "James". (Mixing up our Disciples are we? :D )

Correct. Just ask for the John Mansville 1" duct liner. Speciality Products had a couple of brands of liner so I made certain to specify the JM. My theater will be about 13X28 and the 100' roll was plenty. If it's not clear online, I would call. They pretty much knew what I wanted when I told them it was going to go on the walls of a home theater.

I did rip down the furring strips as well. Anything that I found pre cut was not a true 1", so this seemed like the best way to go.

Are you guys finding non pressure treated 5/4 boards somewhere. I would like to use them, but every place I have looked they are pressure treated.

I've been getting them from Big orange, Lowes & lumber yards.

Looking great !!!

Your are moving along in a nice Phase.

-Suresh

Im not far from you and will eventually start on a similarly sized room...18x25x9 so im curiuous to see how yours turn out since we are somewhat close in size.

I will be watching for sure...looks great so far cant wait for more pics.

Robert

more,more,more !

Looks great man, excellent job!

Finally able to post some more pictures. Things are really coming along! The fabric is up!! and trim has started. Here are some pictures of how things are progressing:

GOM Arrived: 2 rolls of Spinel 3582 (walls) and black (pronescium)

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First fabric section (started with a small one).
The fabric isn't as red as the photos....it more maroon/brown. I belive it is the same color as GPowers and Art's.

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Fabric section 2 and 3, with a space and furring strips for the columns.
This is the left wall looking towards the front of the theater.

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A couple of shots of the only seam...on the back left wall.

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The fabric looks nice. I like the colors that you chose.

Fabric is done!
Started buidling the columns and and trimming them out.

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Some of the trim doesn't have it's final coat yet, so the colors are a little different especially in bright light.

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Additional Updates:

All of the Columns are built. We are now finishing the base boards and crown moulding and finishing the bookcase.

Right wall. 2 columns (will have sconces) and the Right Surround Speaker.
We prestained most of the wood. The pieces we cut, and one sheet still need to be stained so the colors all match.

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Right wall again. You can see the framed bookcase.

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Left wall. We ended up using one more piece of wood than we thought on the columns....so this piece will still need to be stained. You can also see the doorway into the equipment room.

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Any updates??

Looks great.

I have both a similar layout and similar plans, including, unfortunately, an electrical service panel in a similar place (except that mine is on the side wall instead of the screen wall).

What are your plans to maintain access to the panel?

Thanks, and again, looks like a great job.

Rick

Looks great. Can't believe I did not find this site sooner. I am just north of Cincinnati (Middletown) and planning my theater as I write. Had I found it, I would have saved a bunch of time looking for Linacoustic. Thanks for the great info and keep pics coming.

Looks wonderful. Quick question: why didn't you put rigid insulation on your basement walls? I was under the impression that it was necessary/important to do so. I'm in Cincinnati also, and will be starting construction soon.

For insulation we used Roxul Safe & Sound (mineral wool). I chose that over the standard pink stuff because it won't mold if water were ever to get in.

Finally go the sconsces Purchaced and Installed. Found these Kitchler lights while travelling on Business at the Great Indoors. These were exactly the style I had been looking for.

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They give off a soft orange (sunburst) glow when dimmed. Perfect.

I really need to update the thread with progress pictures as the rier is built and almost all is done except for the carptet.


I second that notion!

Glad to see someone in Cincinnati! I'm on the west side, Covedale to be exact. :)

I just stumbled upon this thread for the first time this morning..

I am a fellow westsider myself. Born and raised in Delhi and now I live in Bridgetown.

Your room is looking great! Are you considering going with a different projector? I recently got a Panasonic AE900 and I am REALLY happy with the performance I get with it.

If you need a demo, feel free to PM me and we can set something up. When it comes time for a popcorn machine, let me know because I work for Gold Medal and we are right down the road from you..

I just stumbled across this one yesterday, too. Apparently, you're right around the corner from me. I live in Beckett Ridge (West Chester).

Can't wait to see the final product!

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I will try and update with pictures tonight. Just got the HD-DVD add on for the XBOX 360, and have been busy with that. Picture is outstanding. This will be the stop-gap until the 2nd gen units are out and cost is down a bit. I do plan on upgrading the projector (probably the weak link now). I've got my eye on a Pearl....but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Changed the PreAmp from the Fosgate to an Anthem D1. What a great unit. Can't wait for the upgrade to the D2....

Coach: I do have a Gold Medal popper (Antique Deluxe 60). I'm in bad need of a cart for it, as it is just too big for the bar. Any insight into a good / reasonably price cart for that unit?

Since my last update we've completed:

Fabric (GOM): finished!
Trim (poplar) and doors: stained and up!
Bookcase: finished and stained!
Riser (14" w/ step): built and insulated!
chairs (Berkline 90's): set up and functional!
bass shakers: (installed in Berkline's): front row installed and functional
theater automation: functional. complete control with wall keypads, laptop or pda!
HTPC: (running Media Center w/ My Movies Plugin, HDTV) built, stable!
lighting (x-10): switches & keypads installed, control via automation pc
Stage: removable panels built, fabric installed, in place with magnets.
Lobby: Painted. Bar/ candy counter installed. Popcorn popper (need a cart).

The room is functional and we are using it even though there are a bunch of things that still need taken care of. The punch-list as of now (mostly budget related):

Carpet for the theater, riser and stage.
Tile for the lobby area.
Door knobs for all 3 doors. Any recommendations on good ones?
Trim for 4" recessed lights. Can I use trim other than Halo in my Halo boxes?
Bass Shakers for riser (2nd row of seats). Need to attach them to riser
Black GOM for behind stage
Enclose lighting panel (needs soundproof door).
Rack for equipment (currently in entertainment center)
Rattle in SUB: still trying to figure out the rattle coming from my Velodyne DD15
Projector upgrade: Pearl ???
other misc. never ending stuff :)

Let me see if I have anything used that is a good deal and I will let you know...

Here are a couple of quick pics I was able to take last night. The
lighting wasn't the greatest as the flash was off.

You can see the stage area, screen wall and removeable panels we built.

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Nice Job! I love the dark wood.

Looking great!!!

Great work.

Impressive equipment list.

Looks like your almost done, might be by now.

Kudos and enjoy!!

I'll go ahead and raise my hand as another fellow West Chester resident. I live in the Glenn Moor Farms subdivision off of Hamilton-Mason road.

I have a question for you:

Very early in your project, you mentioned that you had to reroute some HVAC ductwork. Did you do this yourself, or did you have a professional do it?

If you had a professional do it, who did you use and what was the approximate cost?

I love your work, great job!!

Aaron

Great job!! Can't wait to see it 100%

Forgueam,

Greetings. Indeed you are close. I know exactly where Glenn Moor Farms is at. Just down Hamilton Mason from us in Providence Manor.

I did hire someone to re-route the HVAC ductwork. He's a one man crew and does odd HVAC jobs. I probably wouldn't recommend him as he works mostly on his own schedule, but was very inexpensive. It worked out fine for us, because we had a few months for him to get all of the ductwork moved before we started framing. He moved one main trunk line about 3 feet to the right, re-routed the dryer and hot water heater vents to the other side of the house, and replaced 3 sections of round metal ductwork with the flexible stuff. I think the total for all of his work and materials were right around $1,000.

I'm glad I didn't do it myself, as I don't think it would have come out nearly as nice. Also, I was nervous that whatever work I would have done would have been covered up shortly by a soffit and insulation with no chance of fixing any things I might have missed.

Check below for some additional construction pics.

Here is the start of the bookcase. We built a solid square from finish grad poplar and attached it to the framing that we earlier built. We then cut the front raduis, etc and drilled the hold for the shelves. Keep in mind the above the arc is the ductwork that we concealed in the soffit as it bends around and I beam.

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Some more pictures of the bookcase being built.


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You can see the wire runs for the bass shakers to be run through the platform the the 2 rows of seats.

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All finished but the stain on a few sections:

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Nice job on the bookcase. Beautiful and functional at the same time. The curved opening looks great. Can't wait to see it when it's done.

Construction of the riser:

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sorry about the dust....makes it tough for a good photo.

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Your theater is looking excellent. The area looks nice and neat to boot.

Very nice looking theater you have here. Any updates? Are you finished!?!


Greetings from Springfield.
Tboy

Excellent Job. Are you an Elder Grad??? I figured that you may be because of "The Pit" name of your HT.

LOL. Nope...not an Elder grad...but I do know of the Pit. The theater got that name from my wife who refered to it that way after a month's worth of evenings and weekends spent down there. "Are you going to spend another night down there working in that Pit ?" :)

I'll post a few updated pics shortly. We have just been basically working on some punch list items over the past months. I've been spedning time tweaking the control system and installed a touchscreen in the lobby/bar. The last big ticket item is carpet for the theater/stage/riser, and tile for the lobby. Currently those are 2nd in line behind saving the last $$ for a new van (wow those Honda Odyssey's are expensive!!)

The most recent updates have been moving the bar out of storage into the lobby area:

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Installing the doorknob/lock with fingerprint recognition on the door that enters into the lobby/bar. Note this was an existing door that led into what was the unfinished part of the basement before we built the theater. The rest of the house is finished in the golden honey color stain. The lobby/bar/theater are obviously finished in a differnt stain.

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And EQing the Velodyne Sub:

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This week / weekend I'm going to try and touchup a drywall seam in the lobby/bar as well as finialize the trim selection for the 4" Halo recessed lights.

This all looks great. I like the automation system you have on the touch panel, makes everything simple doesn't it!? Looking forwards to seeing finished product pics. Keep up the good work. Very Impressive.

I like the fingerprint locks. This adds to the "cool" factor of your theater.

I like the fingerprint locks. This adds to the "cool" factor of your theater.

Just don't let kids, neighbors, friends watch the episode of Mythbusters where they shoot those things down really easilly... :eek:

Thanks for the replies. The fingerprint lock is more for just keeping the kids in their play area, and out of the lobby (where the candy is!) than for secuirty. It is nice, because it automatically locks after five seconds, so we really can't forget to lock it. We found it to be a much better solution for us than to have to rely on a key when we wanted to get in, or to mess with more childproof door handles. The upstairs is filled with those already ;).

Currently waiting on the trim(s) for the 4" Halo recessed lights to arrive. Ordered a few different styles online to figure out what we like best for the stage, above the seats, and the bar area. Will post some more pics when they arrive.


Finally starting on the flooring. Haven't decided on a carpet pattern for the theater...but did decide on a tile design for the lobby:
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As usual, the acutal tiles look quite a bit darker (almost black) than in the photo with the flash. Both the small and large black granite decorative tiles cut into the corners have sparklies that light up and really stand out.



Also starting to construct the bar in the back of the theater. I't will sit flush against the back of the riser, but will not be anchored. This will allow it to be pushed out of the way if we ever need to get something large through the theater door. We will also be able to lift it out of the way to carpet completely under it. You can also see the outlets in the riser for the chair reclines and speaker terminals for the chair butt-kickers.

Bar Framing:

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Top:

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Coming Together:

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Trim and Stain:

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Building the Top Edge:

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Done! Lights Off

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Lights On:
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With New Bar Stools (blurry picture...sorry):

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Been following since the beginning- really looks nice. Ares you still thinking Pearl, or how about RS1?

I've thought about both. I am on the list to have my Anthem D1 upgraded to a D2 with a built in video processor...so I'm not certain I would see the benefits from the RS1 that others may see. Still trying to decide....I'm still impressed by the picture my old Sanyo Z2 throws, so I can't even imagine the step up to a 1080p projector.

Punchlist from 11/06:
Carpet for the theater, riser and stage.
Tile for the lobby area. DONE
Door knobs for all 3 doors. Any recommendations on good ones? DONE
Trim for 4" recessed lights. Can I use trim other than Halo in my Halo boxes? DONE
Bass Shakers for riser (2nd row of seats). Need to attach them to riser. DONE
Black GOM for behind stage
Enclose lighting panel (needs soundproof door).
Rack for equipment (currently in entertainment center) DONE
Rattle in SUB: still trying to figure out the rattle coming from my Velodyne DD15. DONE. Loose Screw
Projector upgrade: Pearl ???
other misc. never ending stuff
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Man - this looks really neat. We just sold our house and moved into a new one we had built, and do not have a theater yet. This is getting me excited to start construction on mine. Do you have any updated pics/progress?

Beautiful, classy theater!

It's VERY similar to an idea I've been mulling over for a friend's ~24x16x9 rough space in a basement. It too will use Paradigm speakers-- the cherry veneer Signature line, but the fronts won't be hidden.

Not sure yet if I should go with two sets of side surrounds, one for each row, or not.

Going to have similar hurdles with HVAC. Yuck. What depth did you make your stage? Did your 8" stage height work out well with your 14" high riser? I'm thinking of speaker placement.

Any pictures of your equipment room? How big a room did you go with? There's a storage/furnace room on the left hand side of where the theater is going, and the door would be placed almost exactly where you placed yours. I was thinking of hanging acoustic padding and fabric on it to make it a more concealed look.

Thanks!

Nice thread.

I read about your "composite output as a feed into a wallpanel at the entrance to my theater" in the Oppo BDP83 thread (link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16270518#post16270518)).

Do you have pics?
Sounds interesting.

I also like the door locks.
Good touch for the kids.

Any other new updates?

Mike

I've thought about both. I am on the list to have my Anthem D1 upgraded to a D2 with a built in video processor...so I'm not certain I would see the benefits from the RS1 that others may see. Still trying to decide....I'm still impressed by the picture my old Sanyo Z2 throws, so I can't even imagine the step up to a 1080p projector.

Dont be so quick to jump on the 1080p bandwagon. Its not as impressive and as big a step as going from vhs to dvd. Its more like...Laser Disc to DVD jump....BUT most everyone here seems to have a ton of money so maybe im speaking from a poor stay at home dads thinking..

But you can go with upconverting DVD/BluRay player that does just about as good as a true 1080p..Just my 2cents.

6/12 Equipment List Update:

Projector: JVC RS-20 w/ firmware update
Sub: Velodyne DD15. !
Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm)
Studio 100's for Mains (black ash), CC570 (Rosenut) for Center,
Studio 20's (Rosenut) for rear surrounds
ADP470's for side surrounds.
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White. Purchaced. Nice Screen
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers.
Bass Shakers: Installed directly in Front Row Seats. Installed in Riser in Rear Row.
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14 inch.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Anthem Statement D2. Sherbourn 7/2100A
Blu-Ray: Beta tester for Oppo Digital Blu-Ray player BDP-83 Univeral Player
DVD: Oppo BDP-83
TIVO: DirectTV HD PVR
Multichannel Audio: Opo BDP-83
Power Conditioning / Battery Backup: Liebert GTX2 (rack mount)
Rack: Liebert Commercial 48U Rack Enclosure
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Stage and Theater carpet are now done!

Stage carpet is flat black...the blackest I could find.
Theater carpet is Masland...and a bit pricey...but we love it in there!

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95% Done.......

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Looking great man...I bet you are ready to get it done and start munchin on some popcorn and chillin..:)

WOW Looks Great

Last Punchlist:
Carpet for the theater, riser and stage. DONE
Tile for the lobby area. DONE
Door knobs for all 3 doors. Any recommendations on good ones? DONE
Trim for 4" recessed lights. Can I use trim other than Halo in my Halo boxes? DONE
Bass Shakers for riser (2nd row of seats). Need to attach them to riser. DONE
Black GOM for behind stage
Enclose lighting panel (needs soundproof door).
Rack for equipment (currently in entertainment center) DONE
Rattle in SUB: still trying to figure out the rattle coming from my Velodyne DD15. DONE. Loose Screw
Projector upgrade: Pearl ???DONE JVC RS-20!


new to the list:

1) I went ahead and had the unfinished space in the equipment room carpeted with leftovers from the theter and stage. Putting all of the equipment into the Liebert rack really freed up some space....as it's only the rack in there now. Looks like I will be finishing the space and turning it into a Game Room. Pics to come...

2) Lobby Area: Need to hang all of the theater memoribilia, posters, signs, etc. I've accumulated over the build.

3) Security System. Panel behind stage is 15 years old. Need to install new system and add monitoring for garage doors, kids bedroms, motion and potentially IP cams. With the lights down, the doors closed and a movie close to THX levels, its like you're in a different world. Have to keep tabs on the kids ;) HAI is the direction i'm leaning.

4) Better pictures. Struggling with the bold colors and low lights in the theater.

Just came upon this thread, and I am glad to see that it is still alive. I live on the west side currently, and I am getting ready for a HT setup. Can you guys recommend any shops in town for projectors and A/V equipment in general? Google is not being much help. I would like to see & hear equipment before I plunk down cash.

Just came upon this thread, and I am glad to see that it is still alive. I live on the west side currently, and I am getting ready for a HT setup. Can you guys recommend any shops in town for projectors and A/V equipment in general? Google is not being much help. I would like to see & hear equipment before I plunk down cash.

If you are willing to drive to south of Dayton, they have several projection setups at a place called Hanson A/V. I looked months back and they had an RS20, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, and a few others.