I'm thinking of buying the PHD-205 to receive QAM HDTV signals from my cable system so I can decode the additional SD (480p) sub-channels that are now being broadcast in addition to the main HDTV (ATSC) signal, and then use the composite or S-video output to connect to an analog TV. The intention is to decode the digital main channel or the sub-channels and watch them on an analog TV.

Can I use this device be used for this purpose? This will be used with an older analog TV that I intend on keeping in use after D-Day (2/17/09). It has only composite and S-video inputs (in addition to the regular F connector)

Thanks!

I'm thinking of buying the PHD-205 to receive QAM HDTV signals from my cable system so I can decode the additional SD (480p) sub-channels that are now being broadcast in addition to the main HDTV (ATSC) signal, and then use the composite or S-video output to connect to an analog TV. The intention is to decode the digital main channel or the sub-channels and watch them on an analog TV.

Can I use this device be used for this purpose? This will be used with an older analog TV that I intend on keeping in use after D-Day (2/17/09). It has only composite and S-video inputs (in addition to the regular F connector)

Thanks!

It should work for that. The stb does have s-vid output, although I have never hooked it up through that connection though.

This STB is junk. I've emailed him 3 times over the last month and never heard anything back.He doesn't or can't respond to e-mails, possibly because he doesn't get them (?).

Pick up the phone and call him.

So after using this a few weeks, my only significant complaints are:

turns mute off (if you had it on) when you change the channel
loses favorites and channel name programming if you re-scan channels
remote is picky at more than a few degrees off-angle


In my earlier post, I said it was reporting ~300 digital channels on the auto-scan. I've come to the conclusion that it's counting encrypted channels, but then it doesn't list them in the available channels. The actual number available with all the (mostly) music channels is ~70.

turns mute off (if you had it on) when you change the channelMinor annoyance. loses favorites and channel name programming if you re-scan channelsEVERY tuner (AFAIK) out there does the same thing. remote is picky at more than a few degrees off-angleThe remote and the buttons are way too small. Do what just about everyone does and use a universal remote.

The outstanding issue is this analog video/sync AGC issue and the lack of two RF inputs (as with 99% of the tuners & TVs' out there). :mad:

I've had mine for maybe 5-6 months, and it often would just get stuck on certain channels (namely any channel in the 5's). Today, it was working, and then I noticed that it wouldn't turn on anymore. I opened it up to see what was going on, and the power circuit was making a buzzing sound. I checked for shorts and didn't see any, so I pressed the power button again, and the opamp on the power circuit literally blew up. It shot sparks everywhere. Lucky for me, I'll get to find out how their warranty system works.

Wow, that's weird. I've made complaints here about mine. Among other things, i could not get it to pass the surround sound codecs to my receiver. Everything was always in PCM stereo, no matter what I did or what settings I used. About two manths ago I turned it on and tuned to a HD tv channel. All of the sudden, I heard a click and presto... I was now getting the surround sound that I should have been getting all the time. I know for a fact that it was never my receiver or cable problem, it was definately the tuner. It has been working fine now for about 2 months. There are other quirks, but that one was the biggest. Weird stuff...

BTW kong132, I may be wrong, but you'd better check that warranty... I think it's only 90 days :(

I have had a PHD-205 for a number of months. It has problems with the audio on both the main HDTV channel and weather subchannel my local NBC station. The audio repeatedly mutes for an instant and then comes back on both channels. I have other DTV receivers that receive these channels with no problem. It also has the problem others have noted with bright pictures when looking at NTSC channels. Last week it died entirely. I found that the problem was a bad 33uF 400 volt capacitor on the power supply board. The bad part was replaced and it is again functioning such as it is.

I got the digital audio hooked up a few weeks ago and it worked fine. The only quirky thing is that over the digital audio out the volume control adjusts the volume for the analog channels but not the digital ones. I'd prefer that it didn't adjust either (since a digital out is likely to be hooked up to a receiver/amp with a volume control), but in any case it ought to be consistent.

kong132; Ask to see if they would send you a replacement PS. Long shot I know.

With regard to the analog synch issue when the background is white or light (picture turns dark and unstable), a friend of mine complained about it by email to sales@epvision.com. The guy there explained that they set some threshold to industry spec but cable companies are broadcasting out of spec on their analog channels. Sounds a little flakey to me since most people have the problem. He offered to send an "adjusted" one. After reminding him a couple of times, he sent it (even w/o my friend first returning the old one. She's supposed to return the old one if the new one is OK). The new "adjusted" one works fine. I looked at a commercial with a pure white background on an analog channel and the picture was stable. Now that they know what they did wrong, they should be willing to fix or replace.

On the remote control problem, I quit using the original one altogether and switched to a universal one that could be programmed (I used the orig to program it). The trouble with their remote unit is that the signal is too weak as well as too narrow.

The guy there explained that they set some threshold to industry spec but cable companies are broadcasting out of spec on their analog channels.Wrong answer.
It does it OTA also. It's either a poorly designed AGC circuit or just very sensistive.
11 months from now it won't matter anymore. ;) He offered to send an "adjusted" one. He has a 'fix' to this. :eek:

Hello everyone

I have had my PHD - 205 for a week and so far so good. It was a little problematic using the remote but patience paid off. I have tried to hook in the TIVO to change the channels but no luck. The problem I have is I don't know the IR Code for the remote control and the TIVO people don't either. It would be perfect if I could get the TIVO to change channels. Any Suggestions?

Besides shipping to them, they're paying to fix/replace my unit and ship it back. He said it'll take 1/2 days once they have it before they ship it out.

Sounds good to me.

I talked with Allen. He sent me a pdf file on their modification. It involves removing two caps and a surface mounted resisior. It also involves jumping a set of holes with a '0 ohm resistor' which is basically a 'jumper'.
The board has to be removed from the case.

After testing for an hour, it appears to be fixed. I saw no issue with video AGC overload or pumping. I on;y use the box as a test receiver up to now as my other two sets have built in tuners. I just upgraded my computer monitor to a 24" w/ component inputs. I will use that instead of a industrial 13" CRT monitor that I had.

One thing I will say, they didn't hold back using enough screws between the case, board and connectors on the rear panel.. ;)

VideoBruce

Did the mod still work? Can you post the pdf? Thanks.

John

The mod appears to work, I haven't seen a failure since I did the mod. I don't use it for analog stations that much. At this time the box is just used for testing/evaluating antennas.
Here is the mod;(1) Remove C2245, C2279, R462 parts.
(2) Add/solder 0 ohm resistor or short 2 pads on R77. The resistors are surface mount, so you have to be carefull. A "0 ohm" resistor is just a jumper.

You do have to remove the PCB to remove the caps and add the jumper. I can't believe how many screws had to be removed. :eek:
At least they didn't skimp there.

ok before i go and buy a box here is my setup

i have a olevia LT32HV the tv does not have a digital tuner in it. i have a cable box in the bedroom and get all the channels on it. i want to hook the PHD-205 or another device up to get QAM unencrypted channels and digital and analog channels.

my provider is cablevision

is the PHD 205 the best unit for the money ?

If you need all 3, atsc/ntsc/qam, then this is the best choice. I don't know if there even IS another choice.

i dont really need OTA but i guess would be good to have the option.

how is the 205 box is it solid are u using it on any provider ?

any thoughts on the TR-100 ?

I use it for SD/HD/QAM reception from Time Warner. I've had some problems in the past with the box, but they seem to have worked themselves out and the unit has functioned solidly for me over the past few months. Most don't have too many complaints here. There was a problem that some were complaining about distorted pictrue on SD when there was a bright/white screen. Not sure what that was since I don't view very much SD. I mostly use it for QAM. You can read back through the thread to get a jist of all the feedback. I'm sure others will chime in with their input as well.

thanks for the info i want to order one right now and have it shipped asap :)

from the time i posted this i just order the PHD205 :) hope i get it asap :) and hope its a good unit. i will be here talking about it

There was a problem that some were complaining about distorted pictrue on SD when there was a bright/white screen. Not sure what that was since I don't view very much SD. That was what my previous post was about.

hoping they fixed that problem would be great if they did

order last night and the shipping is in the UPS already marked for pickup. i will be so so happy when its marked as shipping.

should be here on the 15 :)

just got word my unit is not that far away from me at this point :) i cant wait to test this box out

Well i got the unit the other day and i have to saw it does what it said it will do.
when i got the unit home i unpacked it and hooked it up. selected CABLE -> STB and did the scan it found 70+ analog channels and over 400 DIGITAL channels. but after going threw the channels i can only see about 100+ channels. the rest all say NO VIDEO on them.

for the money the unit is worth it

the down falls about the unit

1.) EPG is not that great could be alot better only shows 1 hour ahead and will only work if the EPG can be found from the provider
2.) the box is like a SA4200HD right up to the DVI and having noise on the top of some channels. big problem with the SA4200HD box and seems to be the same problem on this PHD 205. firmware might be able to fix it but who knows.
3.) Remote is not that easy to use at first i could't get the channels to change because i was pressing the wrong button lol


over all the unit is a A+

stuff that they might want to think about adding.
USB HARD DRIVE SUPPORT for recording

I've noticed recently on HD channels that sometimes the picture freezes for an instant and the dolby cuts then comes back, driving my Onkyo receiver crazy clicking back and forth. I turned it off for a few min last night and it seemed to work. This morning it would do it randomly throughout a 20 min session. It has never done this in 6 months of using it.

Anyone else have this isssue?

i can only see about 100+ channelsI assume those aren't all digital channels?EPG is not that great could be alot better only shows 1 hour ahead and will only work if the EPG can be found from the providerThat's typical of just about all of these tuners. Yes, if the station isn't sending data, NO tuner can display anything.

What's this 'SA4200HD'?? Yes, the remote is terrible. The 'enter' button is way too small and the labeling of the channel up/down buttons needs to be changed.
BTW, the HDD idea has already been discussed, but adding the 2nd RF input should be a priority.

Please guys, I just one question with this unit, will I be able to keep my cable analog channels past Feb. 2009 since it will convert all of them to Digital using its NTSC tuner?

thanks

That depends on you cable system. There is some type of mandate through the FCC for a extension, but I forgot the exact wording.

It's entirely up to your cable company when they convert analog channels to digital. The only exception is the local channels. As I understand it, they have to provide the locals in analog form until 2012, unless they convert completely to digital, in which case they have to make digital cable boxes available to all their customers who still have TVs with only analog cable-ready tuners.

I love this box, but I get popping noises whenever I swtich channels is this happening to anybody else? and is this safe for my TV speakers?

thanks guys

anyone selling a 205?

I could buy or trade. I have a samsung dtb-h260f

I updated my measurements of the sensistivity of the receiver in my review (post 300) since I was not using a digital SLM when they were first taken;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11303232#post11303232

I have searched this thread before posing this question. It's been asked before but I didn't see an answer...

Has anyone successfully programmed a non-learning remote to operate the PhD-205 tuner? In particular I have several Sony remotes that have the option of controlling a cable box, if only I knew what kind of cable box to control.

Help would be appreciated.

Does the PHD-205 output a video signal simultaneously on the composite video outputs as well as on the component video outputs? I understand from the Samsung H260F thread that that unit does this. I would like to watch programming in 1080i through the component video outputs while simultaneously being able to record on a VCR at SD with the composite video output. Thanks!

Has anyone successfully programmed a non-learning remote to operate the PhD-205 tuner?You could possibly try Toshiba and/or Panasonic codes, but the best bet is a full "learning" remote. Their codes are mostly proprietary. This came from ePVision.

From my review (link above);Composite & S-Video can be used together, but S-Video, VGA & component can't I'm not sure about composite & component.

Through a call to Allen at ePVision, the next batch of receivers (due next week) will have a firmware update involving the remote and
the ability to store separate scans of OTA and CATV!

I confirmed this by re-asking the question, you won't have to do another scan if you want to switch from antenna to cable.
There will still be only one RF input, but a remote RF switch would take care of that. This is only a firmware upgrade.

In the past, the reported time frame has been less than stellar, just as a side note ;)
I also asked about another version to replace this, but he had no news.

So what can us previous owners do to get this new firmware update? ...or is this a new model coming out?

There is that USB port on the back. Have they done firmware upgrades in the past?

It is NOT a new model. This is the first upgrade that I know of (of the 205 model).
I forgot about the USB port. The user should be able to do a flash upgrade with a USB drive. The drive has to be formatted using FAT32 with no other files on it.

Allen will be sending me the two files (hopefully).

Doing so will wipe the e-prom, including the existing channel map. :(

I forgot about the USB port. The user can do a flash upgrade with a memory drive. The drive has to be formatted using FAT32 with no other files on it.

Allen will be sending me the two files (hopefully).

I wasn't expecting that. What a nice surprise. I've got my flash drive ready to go :D.

You go first!

The firmware is a .rar file (7.3MB compressed). After extraction, there are 9 files within a folder.
The instructions are attached as a .pdf file. Your USB drive should be clean with NO other files on it and it should be formatted to FAT 32. Copy the contents of the folder to your empty USB drive.

If you need the files, PM me.

Instructions say PHD-200. Safe for the 205???

Bruce? I'm ready to go. I just need confirmation.

The file number is 205. This is what he sent me. The folder name is: 080429_alps_PHD205FW
That's a FW date of 4/29/08

I can't get the update to work. On my drive, it says...
File System: FAT
There is nothing else on the drive. I saved the file on my PC then extracted it to the flash drive with WinRAR.
What could be the problem?

I would unpack the file somewhere on your HDD first. Then copy the folder to the USB drive.
Remember to hard pwr. down the receiver by the POWER button, not the 'standby' button first. Repower up, then hit the standby switch as you would normally do.
DON'T INTERUPT THE PROCESS!!

Right, I've done a ton of fw updates, I'm just not well versed in computer applications. I just can't even get the process to start. The drive lights up, but then nothing. I'll try to keep at it...

No joy here either.
I tried with the files in the folder and also with the files not in a folder. The system boots up like normal. The light on the UBS drive flashes but nothing else happens.

Anyone else have any thing different happen?

When you say the drive lights up, you mean the USB drive when plugged into the back of the receiver?

When you say the drive lights up, you mean the USB drive when plugged into the back of the receiver?

Correct (for me).

Yes.

Formatted a flash drive as FAT32 and unpacked the nine files. Followed the instructions. Mine flashed fine. No brick!

Although the instructions say to connect the component cables, you could see enough over a composite cable to know what was going on.

I haven't explored the differences yet

zqxthree

Do you keep the nine files in the folder?

John

No, the nine files were at the root of the flash drive.

FAT32 did it for me!

I've tried everything. I've updated firmware on all my products at least 50 different times. However, I'll be damned if I can't get this POS to work. I give up. This thing has always been a problem child anyway. :rolleyes:

I never liked USB drives.
I can't even access the drive thanks to Kaspersky. :mad:

BTW, I did say FAT32.

Even with FAT32, I still can't get it to work.

Ok, boys and girls here ya go.

The firmware is a .rar file (7.3MB compressed). After extraction, there are 9 files within a folder. This link shoiuld be good for a week from today according to the e-mail that was sent;

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/589250241/367429fbf6e02a7be8f4e938ae248cc8

The instructions are attached as a .pdf file. Your USB drive should be clean with NO other files on it and formatted to FAT (32 as far as Allen reported). I assume you copy the folder as is, not open the folder and copy the contents. I assume it needs the folder name since the .bin and .img files have no real labels.
Let me know how it works out. :D

Will this firmware work on a 200?

The flash drive I had was reported in Windows at "FAT", not FAT16 or FAT32, but just plain "FAT".

I copied the files without the folder per zqxthree's post to the drive with no other files on it. I followed the posted procedure, but the receiver didn't even see the drive attached. It jusy blew right by the flash.

I went back into 'My Computer', right clicked on the drive letter, choose 'Format', looked at the file structure, it was formatted in FAT16, not FAT32. I reformatted the drive, reloaded the files and flashed away.

Success!

The flash process brings up a white screen that was overscaned big time on my 24" computer monitor that I could barely see the text at the very top and the progress bar at the very bottom. The process might of taken a minute. It did reboot itself. I was sure to remove the drive before the reboot.

I would say, other than verifing the file format on your flash drive is indeed FAT32, not FAT16, it might be a issue with that drive or possibly some 'hidden' security files or program that is on the drive, as I had on my "Lexar JumpDrive Secure".

Hope that helps. :)

Need to know has anyone had this box just get stuck in boot. The unit was working a few days ago I do not watch much tv at all. But tonight I turn it on and it just sits on the boot the tv is blank.

Bad thing not sure when I got it or were any of the stuff like the box is at.

FINALLY!!! Success!!:D
I will spare you all the gorey details, but I finally got it to update.
Happy now. :)

Don't spare us. It might help someone else. ;)
What/where was the problem?

Well, I'm not sure which element of chang did the trick, but here's some info of what I did.

Changed format from FAT to FAT32.

I have AnyDvd, which comes with the free VirtualCloneDrive. 2 of the files were registering under the VCD. I wasn't sure if that was causing a problem, so I had to delete VCD completely from my PC.

Then I had to unpack the 9 files, and then place them INDIVIDUALLY on my flash drive. So there were then 9 files on the drive, not a folder with 9 files in it.

After all that, it worked.



One disappointing thing though, is that sometimes when I watch sd channels, the picture gets all distorted and such. Almost like it's being encripted or something. It will only do it for a few seconds then stop. It may then not do it for a while, or it may keep doing it over and over. It does not do this on digital channels.
I was hoping the new firmware would fix this issue, but it has not. The issue remains :(.

It was the first.
What would the 2nd have anything to do with this?sometimes when I watch sd channels, the picture gets all distorted and such. Almost like it's being encripted or something.Read back into this thread. This has been discussed many times with a modification. It's the analog channel, video AGC, sync issue.

It was the first.
What would the 2nd have anything to do with this?Read back into this thread. This has been discussed many times with a modification. It's the analog channel, video AGC, sync issue.

The second?... I have no idea, but I had to try what I could to get it to work.
After just doing the first, it still did not work after multiple tries and configurations. So I tried other things. Just reformatting to FAT32 was NOT the solution (for me). It was some combination of the things I listed.

I vaguely remember some talk about a modification, but I am not versed in these types of procedures. More than likely I just browsed through them, not knowing exactly what was being discussed. I am a very handy person with a decent IQ. Is this something I would be able to fix myself without any experience?

Look back in this thread.:cool:

Saw the posts about the firmware update. Question to ask folks about this update.

The Adobe PDF notes firmware 32.03.02

However on my PHD-205 - when you goto the setup menu under System Information it notes version 32.11.12

What firmware version is the firmware update supposed to update to?

Mine shows 33.33.09

I updated my review again to include the firmware, video AGC & SPDIF mods;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11303232#post11303232

Great! Thanks for posting the update.

Has anyone ordered one of these recently? The website looks like it hasn't been touched since October. I compared the quality of my dad's PHD205 with my CM7000 and I think the PHD205 looks MUCH better. Obviously it's not a CECB but I'd rather have the better quality. (especially since I just read ATI is shutting down the TV chipset division, so the awesome Xilleon chipset in these boxes will be gone soon)

So I'd like to get one but wanted to be sure epvision.com was still stocking them/taking orders/legit. ;)

Read my post prior to the update procedure regarding current status.

My 205 unit receives the QAM signal for local stations with no problems that I am aware of including HD channels such as ABC, CBS and ABC. My Sony TV's digital receiver, however, will not receive the QAM local stations. In trying to resolve this issue, Sony contacted Comcast who said that all local digital stations are encoded and suggested that I was doing something illegal by using my PHD-205 (according to the Sony repair manager who called me). They said that if I don't have a Comcast STB, I should not be getting any digital stations. Does anybody else receive digital signals from Comcast using this unit. My particular location is central NJ. (BTW, channels not included in my basic subscription are encrypted and are not receiver by the 205).

Ray

Update: See post 588 (PPHD-205 scan works, TV scan doesn't work) Both tuners work

Just because your sony tv is digital, doesn't mean that it has a QAM tuner in it. That is different from an ATSC tuner.
Whomever they talked to at the cable company is a complete idiot. That is the whole point of QAM. The law requires cable companies to provide local channels in digital to any cable subscriber. The cable companies HATE that they have to do this, because it lowers their premium business. Most people think that in order to see their local shows in HD, thaey have to pay the cable company $100/month. Of course that's not true... there is QAM and OverTheAir. Of course the cable company loves this and it earns them more money. It is also a well known fact that most lower tier CSRs at the cable company are not very smart (we're talkin minimum wage + $.25 more an hr). I asked someone at my cable company once about QAM, they came back with "Oh ya, I heard of that. Isn't that like Pay Per View or something?". :rolleyes:

Just because your sony tv is digital, doesn't mean that it has a QAM tuner in it. That is different from an ATSC tuner.
Whomever they talked to at the cable company is a complete idiot. That is the whole point of QAM. The law requires cable companies to provide local channels in digital to any cable subscriber. The cable companies HATE that they have to do this, because it lowers their premium business. Most people think that in order to see their local shows in HD, thaey have to pay the cable company $100/month. Of course that's not true... there is QAM and OverTheAir. Of course the cable company loves this and it earns them more money. It is also a well known fact that most lower tier CSRs at the cable company are not very smart (we're talkin minimum wage + $.25 more an hr). I asked someone at my cable company once about QAM, they came back with "Oh ya, I heard of that. Isn't that like Pay Per View or something?". :rolleyes:

Yes, Sony 46Z4100 has a QAM tuner. The auto tuner was set to Cable. Do you have a citation for the law that requires cable companies to provide local channels in digital? Who enforces that law (or is it just a regulation?) I was told by the Sony rep that requirement was only for analog stations

Thanks for your help.

Ray

The requirement is if it's provided in analog, they have to make it available in digital as well. It has been discussed to DEATH and varies widely in opinion because the language of the documentation in confusing and can be alternatively interpreted.
I do not get into all that technical jargan because I find it boring, so I don't know where to get the actual documents, but if you ask around, you'll probably find it.

If your tv does have a QAM tuner, and it won't find the channels, then it may need repaired. Sorry, i know nothing about that tv. Does it have seperate systems that it can scan?... like EITHER-> hrc OR-> irc OR-> standard? If so, try different ones. Other than that, I don't know.
Good luck...

Sony contacted Comcast who said that all local digital stations are encoded and suggested that I was doing something illegal by using my PHD-205 (according to the Sony repair manager who called me).Hard to tell who/what is worse? Phoney all baloney or that POS MSO idiot that probably doesn't know what he is talking about.

Stupid statements as that would prompt me to file a complaint with the state PSC and the FCC. I can tell you from first hand experiance, NO utility wants a compalint from the PSC, at least not in New York State! ;)

Go to your local reception therad and confirm which OTA stations are in the clear.The law requires cable companies to provide local channels in digital to any cable subscriber.The requirement is if it's provided in analog, they have to make it available in digital as well.Sorry, that issue isn't closed, it's still debateable if a MSO has to offer the local networks 'in the clear" even though most do to show they are really nice guys. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the comments videobruce. Sony has advised me that they now agree that my new TV should be picking up the unencoded digital stations from Comcast. I don't really know who at Comcast they talked to or what was said in their original conversation. But to Sony's credit they have expressed a desire to find out what the problem is. Comcast does send their signals for locals in the clear since I can receive them on th PHD-205. There is something else going on, however, hence my inquiry as to whether anyone else is receiving unencoded stations from Comcast using the 205 but are unable to receive them on a capable TV. Thanks again for all the comments.

Connect your cable directly to your set.
Do a re-scan.
Report back.

Is it possible for this unit to pass through the native resolution?

I don't believe so. If you have it set to 720p, and the native res is 720p, the yes. However there is a switch on the back of the receiver that you have to set it to either 480p, 720p, or 1080i.

Connect your cable directly to your set.
Do a re-scan.
Report back.

Have done that many times already:) TV picks up 74 analog channels and 0 digital channels. Actually, if I look into the hidden/unhidden screen I see that a few channels are listed but they appear to be premimum channels that have been encrypted. When I enter these stations directly (e.g. 14.1) I get a message that the TV is unable to decode the signal.

Have done that many times already:) TV picks up 74 analog channels and 0 digital channels. Actually, if I look into the hidden/unhidden screen I see that a few channels are listed but they appear to be premimum channels that have been encrypted. When I enter these stations directly (e.g. 14.1) I get a message that the TV is unable to decode the signal.

If your TV scans channels like all of my digital TVs do, it will go through all of the analog channels and then start again on the digital channels. One of my TVs takes nearly 10 minutes to complete both. The analog is quick (2 minutes or so) and the digital is slow (8 minutes or so).

Perhaps you have not been waiting long enough for the second pass that looks for the digital channels.

All during the analog scan, my TVs show 0 digital channels. Then when it scans for digitals, it takes a while to get the first digital channel because in our area, the lowest native digital channel is 18.

Hope you get your problem solved. Good luck!

raylock; Then for some unknown reason, your set and your cable company aren't compatable. Since the 205 'sees' these channels that clearly shows they are indeed 'in the clear'.
Go to the owners thread for your set and serach for and post the question. Have you gone to the reception thread in your area to see if there are other members with issues?
If you knew the physical channel number that they use for your OTA stations, you could try a direct entry; 88.1 for example. Many sets will accept that and 'add' it to the scan list.

stephenju; I don't understand the question. If you are talking about APT (analog pass through), this isn't a CECB.

If your TV scans channels like all of my digital TVs do, it will go through all of the analog channels and then start again on the digital channels. One of my TVs takes nearly 10 minutes to complete both. The analog is quick (2 minutes or so) and the digital is slow (8 minutes or so).

Perhaps you have not been waiting long enough for the second pass that looks for the digital channels.

All during the analog scan, my TVs show 0 digital channels. Then when it scans for digitals, it takes a while to get the first digital channel because in our area, the lowest native digital channel is 18.

Hope you get your problem solved. Good luck!

Thanks for the thought. I have let the scan go to completion as have the service techs. End up with zero digital channels. I believe that Sony is trying to get a handle on the problem.

raylock; Then for some unknown reason, your set and your cable company aren't compatable. Since the 205 'sees' these channels that clearly shows they are indeed 'in the clear'.
Go to the owners thread for your set and serach for and post the question. Have you gone to the reception thread in your area to see if there are other members with issues?
If you knew the physical channel number that they use for your OTA stations, you could try a direct entry; 88.1 for example. Many sets will accept that and 'add' it to the scan list.



Since my origional post, Sony has indicated that there may be a problem with the set and they are trying to figure it out. They were thrown off course by the nutty comments they received from Comcast. Unfortunately, this is a new model and there is very little in the owners thread. Only one other person has reported a problem and it was also with Comcast. I have tried to enter the stations directly but the TV does not find it. The diagnostics screen just shows it flipping back and forth between QAM 256 and QAM 86(?). At this point I just need to wait for Sony. Sorry, this thread is off subject of the 205. I had originally thought that owners with that unit might have had similar experiences with their TVs. Back to discussing the 205:) Thanks everyone for your help.

Edit: Update. The Sony actually tunes all digital channels. The problem is that it doesn't find them in a scan. Sony is still trying to understand why the 205 scan works but the TV scan does not. It appears that this is a very limited issue and is present only on some Comcast feeds.

stephenju; I don't understand the question. If you are talking about APT (analog pass through), this isn't a CECB.

I mean instead of up/down-scale the received channel image to a set resolution (720p for example), can the unit just send the signal at whatever resolution it receives?

For example, most of the stations here broadcast at 1080i with the exception of WFXT at 720p. I want the unit to switch output resolution automatically to the same as the one received. i.e. WFXT at 720p and others 1080i.

I like to have my display device do the scaling, so there's exactly one scaling in the signal chain. The display is going to scale the image due to overscan anyway, so I might as well just let it do all the scaling. :)

It doesn't like this unit does that. It's OK. I will just leave it at 1080i so it'll be right most of the time. And this is not the primary TV anyway.

BTW. Strangely, the local ABC station (WCVB) is running at 1080i. They upscale the network shows which are in 720p. The result is not very good.

I doubt it. Since there is a manual slide switch (done purposely), I don't see any way that could happen.
Anyone else?the local ABC station (WCVB) is running at 1080i. They upscale the network shows which are in 720p. The result is not very good.Other than it not making much sense, why bother? Another cog in the chain...........

I doubt it. Since there is a manual slide switch (done purposely), I don't see any way that could happen.
I was hoping some firmware update can do it. Well...

VideoBruce - Would you mind refreshing the download link and file to the eprom flash upgrade ?

i was on vacation and missed it.

Thanks !

I was going through the epvision website. So do these units only have DVI output without HDMI? Is everybody connecting them to your TVs' with component out?

Yep. Component and optical.

Is everybody connecting them to your TVs' with component out?

I've run mine into the television's HDMI input using an inexpensive DVI -> HDMI adapter plug from Monoprice. You just need to provide a separate audio connection, and you will notice that many televisions have a pair of RCA audio inputs right next to one of their HDMI inputs for that purpose.

This box outputs RGB on DVI (with or without HDMI adapter) so if you calibrated your display input in component (YPbPr/YCbCr) space, the color may be a bit off.

I've run mine into the television's HDMI input using an inexpensive DVI -> HDMI adapter plug from Monoprice. You just need to provide a separate audio connection, and you will notice that many televisions have a pair of RCA audio inputs right next to one of their HDMI inputs for that purpose.

Unfortunately my Pioneer 151 plasma doesn't allow for audio inputs other than HDMI.

Unfortunately my Pioneer 151 plasma doesn't allow for audio inputs other than HDMI.

No way...

OK. Looked it up for you. Check the top left box on page 30 of your manual.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Home/PRO-111FD_OperatingInstructions0514.pdf

No way...

OK. Looked it up for you. Check the top left box on page 30 of your manual.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Home/PRO-111FD_OperatingInstructions0514.pdf

I didn't know that damn.

degrub; Not my link.
PM me.

Will the Epvision205 allow me to receive:
1) QAM Digital unencrypted over coax cable
2) OTA Digital (8SV or whatever its called)
3) *Cable* analog NTSC

All 3 of the above simultaneously without fudging around with cables, switch boxes etc?

The info online states that for (3) above, it only receives OTA NTSC! I want via cable...!

Edit" Nevermind, I found another page that states it clearly:
PHD-205 is the advanced and low cost high-end HDTV Decoder Box. This unit can receive digital ATSC over-the-air HDTV broadcast signals, digital Cable clear QAM signals (64 and 256 QAM signals) as well as traditional analog TV signal from an external antenna or cable RF source.

So, this makes it a better choice for me over the Sammy 260 I bought yesterday. Bummer!

All 3 of the above simultaneously without fudging around with cables, switch boxes etc?

No way.

It only has ONE RF connector, so at any one time it is either OTA or cable, or you use a switch.

No way.

It only has ONE RF connector, so at any one time it is either OTA or cable, or you use a switch.

Well, OK, but I think at a minimum it was able to take the regular Coax Cable, and decode both the Digital and the Analog Signal from that single cable. That's what the manual leads me to believe:

The PHD-205 Digital HDTV Tuner can
receive analog cable signal as well as cable
DTV signal in the event that a local cable
provider is passing 8VSB through their
system. This 8VSB signal can not be
encrypted by Cable Company. And we call it
Clear QAM signal from cable.

The IR Receiver on the Samsung 260 is awful! It has a small 'cone' so perfect aiming is required. Drives me nuts...! Does the 205 have a forgiving receiver? Has anyone tried at what approx angle it still works?

The remote on this isn't the greatest. It's way too small. I'm not sure about the IR "window". It might be narrow also. I only use mine at a close distance.

As far as using it for all three, it's the first and only tuner, separate or built in, that has dual memories.
Only Mits DLP's still have two RF inputs. :mad:

I have searched this thread before posing this question. It's been asked before but I didn't see an answer...

Has anyone successfully programmed a non-learning remote to operate the PhD-205 tuner?

In particular I have several Sony remotes that have the option of controlling a cable box, if only I knew what kind of cable box to control.

Help would be appreciated.

One final clarification needed before I purchase the 205:

Once it scans through Cable QAM signal, *and* NTSC analog signal, how does the user change channels? Are the channels all grouped together in memeory, so its a simple matter of pressing channel up/down to get through the entire digital+analog channel list? Or is the user forced to press a button to switch between analog/digital channels when channel-surfing?

You have to go into the menu and switch from 'Antenna' to 'Cable Std.' or vice a versa. Six button pushes.

You have to go into the menu and switch from 'Antenna' to 'Cable Std.' or vice a versa. Six button pushes.

Well that makes no sense. I wouldn't even have an antenna connected. Both signals come through the coax cable! :confused:

I think Bruce just misunderstood. If you are talking about getting analog cable from your cable company AND QAM "in the clear" channels at the same time, then all those channels will be grouped together. For example mine go like...

2 - analog
3 - analog
3.1 - digital (HD)
3.2 - digital (SD)
4 - analog
5 - analog
5.1 - digital (HD)
6 - analog
7 - analog
8 - analog
8.1 - digital (HD)
ect...

Awesome. Then this is the device I want ! It send the analog channels through COmponent I assume too... so all through the same output... great.

I think Bruce just misunderstood. If you are talking about getting analog cable from your cable company AND QAM "in the clear" channels at the same time, then all those channels will be grouped together. For example mine go like...

2 - analog
3 - analog
3.1 - digital (HD)
3.2 - digital (SD)
4 - analog
5 - analog
5.1 - digital (HD)
6 - analog
7 - analog
8 - analog
8.1 - digital (HD)
ect...

I did. I thought he was talking about switching from cable to OTA.

related to the posters question above and using a rf switch......what kind of switch would you recommend to use? Having 1 coax coming from antenna and 1 from cable going into the unit. Could you give an example of a product to use here to point in the right direction please? thanks.

I looked this up in the manual, and seems this device will not automatically dispolay channel info when you switch channels. I was hoping at least to briefly see the signal resolution (480i, 720p, 1080i etc) when I switch to a new channel.

Is this the case?

I looked this up in the manual, and seems this device will not automatically dispolay channel info when you switch channels. I was hoping at least to briefly see the signal resolution (480i, 720p, 1080i etc) when I switch to a new channel.

Is this the case?

Yep, just tried it, it only displays channel number and name on a channel change.

Awesome. Then this is the device I want ! It send the analog channels through COmponent I assume too... so all through the same output... great.

Yep, although if your cable system is like mine it can be a bit disconcerting when, say, channel 47 is MTV and 47.1 is a PBS station's HD feed. ;) But once you get used to the channels being a bit scattered it works quite well.

Please I need the firmware receiver PHD-205, latest version, thanks

Welcome to the forums, but do a search first. See this;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14293577&postcount=544

The link is where the firmware does not work

Hey guys, I am unable to find a live link for this firmware. Can anyone repost it somewhere?
Thanks for the help.

The link is where the firmware does not workLink was removed. It expired.

PM me for the files.

Dumb question, I only have basic cable...not even basic expanded cable, will I be able to get ESPN, ESPN 2 with this unit?

Dumb question, I only have basic cable...not even basic expanded cable, will I be able to get ESPN, ESPN 2 with this unit?

No.

Analog or digital?
Depends on your cable system.

Analog or digital?
Depends on your cable system.

i believe it analog, coax antenna hooked up to this unit?

i believe it analog, coax antenna hooked up to this unit?Huh?
Ok, try this, it depends on where they put those services (channel numbers) and if they are analog or digital channels. If digital, if they 'are in the clear' or not.

Certainly you cannot expect a free lunch. You might stumble on some more unscrambled ("clear") channels than you're paying for, but there's not guarantee they will be there or that they will last.

Huh?
Ok, try this, it depends on where they put those services (channel numbers) and if they are analog or digital channels. If digital, if they 'are in the clear' or not.


channels 1-99 in the analog cable, i already get some with my current package from channels 1-99, but do not get espn, espn2, and a few others.

...do not get espn, espn2, and a few others.

So what makes you think you're entitled to get them? Are you paying for them?

You might find the reports generated here useful -> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels

This lists the "clear" digital channels on cable, based on ZIP code. If you have Comcast, you may also see some programs because your neighbors are currently viewing them "On Demand" but they will come and go.

OK, I apologize if this is a repeated question, but here goes:

Since the 205 has a manual switch on the back for resolution, does that mean its going to upconvert NTSC signals to 1080i (assuming I'm using that resolution)? or is it going to pass-thru the 480i signal?

And if it is upconverting the 480i signal, is there an option to automatically have it stretch the 480i signal, and then return to normal when displaying a QAM 1080i signal?

Thanks

My PHD-205 arrived today, direct from Epvision.

This thing had sealed batteries in the box, as well as (mismatched!) batteries in the controller. Smells like a rturned or refurbished unit. Is it legal for a company to sell this as new?!?!

Well, I have been testing the PHD-205, and comparing to the Samsung 260 which I also own. Here are a few comments, and questions:

1) Some of the Digital Channels I receive, are showing 5.1 audio in the extended info dialog. Specifically NBC. My receiver however claims to be getting regular stereo. Note that I do have DOLBY DIGITAL set up in the 205 (instead of PCM). This same setup with the Sammy, passes on true 5.1 to the receiver. Any ideas?

2) Vide quality of 1080i on the Samsung is superior. It may not be noticeable to some of you, but if you are projecting on an 8 foot screen like I am, you will see that the 205 poduces what appears to be more compression, and/or less effective resolution. Almost looks like 720 in a way. The Sammy produces a crisp, pristine image whereas the 205 regrettably does not.

3) The menus on the 205 (text etc) are of low resolution. Appears it is showing 720p-class text upscaled onto 1080i. hence, looks rather blocky. Not a big deal really, but the Sammy does produce crisp menu text at 1080i.

4) Question about the Firmware: This came with 33.13.10. Is there a place to at least lookup the latest FW version, to know if there is something better out there?

So far, it looks like the 205 is going back, and the Sammy is a keeper. Too bad, since I did want the Analog channels... oh well. I give 1080 image quality priority over everything else.

gnolivos; Someone could of tested the remote and forgot to remove the batteries. How about condition of the unit itself?

Since you have both, a question about the Sammy;
That does not have a analog tuner, correct?
Other than the lower resolution of the menu, how about other differences?

Others have mentioned audio issues. I haven't tried mine into my 7.1 receiver yet. Just never got around to it.

videobruce, my comments on this unit are above....

Also, the Sammy does NOT have an analog tuner. But the video quality is noticeably better on a very large screen.... probably not noticeable on a 42"

I read your comments, I was just looking for more.
My F/W version is 33.33.09. Yours appears newer.

My PHD-205 arrived today, direct from Epvision.

This thing had sealed batteries in the box, as well as (mismatched!) batteries in the controller. Smells like a rturned or refurbished unit. Is it legal for a company to sell this as new?!?!

Sounds like they accidentally left their test batteries in the remote.

Think I already said that............

Hmm... Indeed you did. I was uh, just backing you up on that. ;)

I couldn't remember why I choose this one over the Sammy other than price at the time. Analog is one feature that comes in handy here. Canada still has 3 years to go. ;)

OK, I apologize if this is a repeated question, but here goes:

Since the 205 has a manual switch on the back for resolution, does that mean its going to upconvert NTSC signals to 1080i (assuming I'm using that resolution)? or is it going to pass-thru the 480i signal?

And if it is upconverting the 480i signal, is there an option to automatically have it stretch the 480i signal, and then return to normal when displaying a QAM 1080i signal?

Thanks


anyone? anyone? Bueller?

anyone? anyone? Bueller?

Ok, since nobody responded, I will give it a try. I turned on the 205 which is set to output 1080i. I scanned through several channels and all channels, according to my projector, was being displayed at 1080i. So I assume the unit up converts (if that is the correct term) all signals to 1080i if that output has been selected. The stretch setting causes all channels to be displayed properly with out need to change when I change channels. Hope this helps.

The latest firmware is 33.33.15 and it's 7MB. I have it along with the PDF install instructions. I don't have a server to share, but I do use gmail which has a 20MB file size limit. So if you're using a service with a similar limit I can send it to you. You can email them as well, but I did and never heard back. I had to call.

They came out with a newer version since I posted the 1st update a couple of months ago.

Would you PM me?

They came out with a newer version since I posted the 1st update a couple of months ago.

Would you PM me?

So where can we get the newest version?

The PM was meant for the previous poster.

To answer the question, from the manufacture/importer. I just wanted to save a phone call.

What changes have be implimented in the new firmware?

The PM was meant for the previous poster.

To answer the question, from the manufacture/importer. I just wanted to save a phone call.
You'll have to PM me with your email or email me through the forums. I don't want to PM each person... :cool:

If someone has a file server they want to post it on, that would be great.


The main fix is audio. There's some harshness that's been removed.

If someone has a file server they want to post it on, that would be great.

pgwalsh emailed me the files and I am hosting them right now:

Note PDF file (http://www.ju-ju.com/guest/PHD205/PHD-205%20Firmware%20Upgrade.pdf)
Firmware RAR file (http://www.ju-ju.com/guest/PHD205/081023_PHD205FW.rar)

Enjoy!

I have firmware 32.11.23. What changes have occured between firmware versions?

pgwalsh also sent me the file via email. Thanks so much pgwalsh, much appreciated :).

pgwalsh also sent me the file via email. Thanks so much pgwalsh, much appreciated :).
No problemo. Not sure why they don't put it on their website. It would cut down on customer service calls as it's a simple install.

Thanks stephenju for posting it.

My PHD 205 unit arrived a week or so ago, it has 33.33.15 and the cap mod already in place.

I use it only for Cable TV decoding not OTA.

Here are a few ovsevations, no real complaints at all just some observations that may be worth looking into. Some may be configurations that I am simply unfamiliar with any help would be appreciated.

The unit basically works very well.

1) The aspect is different on some channels. The Didital ones appear to be the most affected. My HDTV Tuner honestly did a better job of compensating for the different ratios. But having a separate unit for a tuner via an AVR feeding 1 input on the TV IMHO is far more convenient. I am using the Stretch but it only works for some digital channels. Analogs are fine.

2) I think another issue is the Optical Audio output lags the composite display by a second or so. I use the Phono audio out and there is no lag.

3) Some Channels that provide surround sound via my TV / AVR combo are simply stereo from the PDH 205, i cannot seem to figure this out. It does not matter which Video output I use and the box is set to Dolby Digital.

If anyone can make some suggestions for a newbe, I would be very greatful.

Thanks

SWR.

Well, I have been testing the PHD-205, and comparing to the Samsung 260 which I also own. Here are a few comments, and questions:

1) Some of the Digital Channels I receive, are showing 5.1 audio in the extended info dialog. Specifically NBC. My receiver however claims to be getting regular stereo. Note that I do have DOLBY DIGITAL set up in the 205 (instead of PCM). This same setup with the Sammy, passes on true 5.1 to the receiver. Any ideas?



This is the exact same problem I get. would love to fix it.

SWR

pgwalsh emailed me the files and I am hosting them right now:

Note PDF file (http://www.ju-ju.com/guest/PHD205/PHD-205%20Firmware%20Upgrade.pdf)
Firmware RAR file (http://www.ju-ju.com/guest/PHD205/081023_PHD205FW.rar)

Enjoy!


I have both the 101 and the 200 models. Will this firmware work on them? If not does anyone know the latest firmware for them?

Thanks,

I have both the 101 and the 200 models. Will this firmware work on them? If not does anyone know the latest firmware for them?

Thanks,
You'll probably need to call and ask them or email them.

I wouldn't use this on one of the orginal (older) models.
Don't bother e-mailing, just call.

Another Problem I seem to be having and would appreciate some help on is.

When I connect a DVI-HDMI cable to my AVR from the PHD-205, I get an incompatible Video signal. Works fine in component. My AVR is an ONKYO Sr-875 and has HDMI 1.3a ports. Is there something wrong with the 205 or is it not compatible with HDMI 1.3a?

Thanks

SWR

Another Problem I seem to be having and would appreciate some help on is.

When I connect a DVI-HDMI cable to my AVR from the PHD-205, I get an incompatible Video signal. Works fine in component. My AVR is an ONKYO Sr-875 and has HDMI 1.3a ports. Is there something wrong with the 205 or is it not compatible with HDMI 1.3a?

Thanks

SWR

Did you try switching between the HDMI outputs settings? Could be the cable. I have the 205 connected to the 885 and it works fine in all modes. So I'm guessing it's the cable or you have an improper setting in the 205 setup menu.

I'm thinking of switch from HDMI to component output because I don't like the 205 doing scaling. I have scaling in the Onkyo and in the projector (gennum) and they do a better job with the signal.

Pgwalsh:

I tried all connections, all settings. I only have 1 cable :(.

Do you get the problem with the delayed optical audio output when changing channels?

SWR

Pgwalsh:

I tried all connections, all settings. I only have 1 cable :(.

Do you get the problem with the delayed optical audio output when changing channels?

SWRI haven't installed the new firmware as of yet, but I didn't get any optical audio previously. I'm hoping the new firmware fixes the issue. I tried 2 different optical cables, which one I know works.

You don't have a component cable that you can try?

I haven't installed the new firmware as of yet, but I didn't get any optical audio previously. I'm hoping the new firmware fixes the issue. I tried 2 different optical cables, which one I know works.

You don't have a component cable that you can try?

My component works perfectly. So does the Coax audio. I think it is my SR-875 limiting the HDMI to true HDMI. If I plug the 205 directly into the TV I get HDMI video. :(. not much I can do really about that one. I would not be surprised if it is delaying the optical Audio also. But I can only get Stereo sound out of the 205.


SWR

1. HDMI is over rated. It's purpose was/is DRM with the over promoted benifit of a single cable for audio and video but,
2. AFAIC, audio should go to the amp, video to the TV. Why introduce another piece of equipment into the video chain. Besides, you then loose the ability to have separate video settings on each of the TV inputs (if the TV supports this, as most do).
3. In some cases, component looks better as it will hide problem of low color bit rates and the 'false contouring' problem many sets have. I had to do this with both of my HDMI devices. The video looked better with component. It 'hid' most of the false contouring artifacts (banding if you perfer).

My component works perfectly. So does the Coax audio. I think it is my SR-875 limiting the HDMI to true HDMI. If I plug the 205 directly into the TV I get HDMI video. :(. not much I can do really about that one. I would not be surprised if it is delaying the optical Audio also. But I can only get Stereo sound out of the 205.


SWR

You also selected the switch on the back to DVI and not component or the other? That's not the 480/720/1080 setting. Just checking, because that can make a difference on what port is sends the picture over.

Even after my upgrade to the firmware I have had no success with optical audio. Only rca's work. :(

1. HDMI is over rated. It's purpose was/is DRM with the over promoted benifit of a single cable for audio and video but,
2. AFAIC, audio should go to the amp, video to the TV. Why introduce another piece of equipment into the video chain. Besides, you then loose the ability to have separate video settings on each of the TV inputs (if the TV supports this, as most do).
3. In some cases, component looks better as it will hide problem of low color bit rates and the 'false contouring' problem many sets have. I had to do this with both of my HDMI devices. The video looked better with component. It 'hid' most of the false contouring artifacts (banding if you perfer).

VB:

Your theory is perfectly sound of course. However, my reasoning is as follows, but before I start I must say that I could do it as you suggest.

Well here is what I am dealing with:

Components:

1) Sharp LCD TV (Lots and lots of inputs)
2) Onkyo SR-875 (Even more inputs)
3) DviCO Media Player (HDMI Out)
4) PHD-205 - Component Video out
5) DVD - HDMI
6) Computer Stuff - XVGA

Controller/Remote/RF:

1) Remote 1 (repeat) 1 Universal Remote Control MX-810
2) MRF-850 Whole House Remote Receiver

Ok, all units have a unique IR transmitter focussed on their IR Receivers, I DO NOT use their standard remotes, they are all tucked away in a drawer for emergencies only, and I really do not need them.

The MX-810 controls all units from anywhere in the house, it is RF, so completely non directional. So the chinsy 205 remote is of no consequence.

The Idea is 1 remote (fondly known around here as "The Com") that controls everything.

Examples; I have 4 Icons programmed into it. Basically as follows: I will highlight the Programs at a basic level to give you an idea:

1) Main System Power On - Turns all all devices - Check to make sure the TV is set to HDMI Input 4 - Sets The AVR to read from the PHD-205 Component Video Input.

This basically turns everything on, and defaults to Cable TV.

2) Media Player - Sets the AVR to read from HDMI port 1

This is for playing movies, listening to CDs etc.

3) Watch TV - Sets The AVR to read from the PHD-205 Component Video Input.

This is the same as the last part of the Power on sequence so I can flip between PHD-205 controlled TV and the Media Player.

4) Conventional TV - Sets the TV to regular TV Mode - Sets the AVR to read audio from Optical input 1

This is so I can bypass all the video components with the exception of the AVR and watch TV as if no other device was install. This is just a failsafe that I only use for comparing video signals and just because I can :).

So perhaps you get the idea of what I am trying to achieve. This way any component I add, say if I go absolutely mad and subscribe to Satalite TV or get an FTA Receiver.

All your Comments and ideas will be REALLY appreciated.

SWR

You are talking about using 'Macros" whcih I don't like or use. I'm from the old school and perfer to do one thing at a time since it makes programming alot easier. Sure, it is a PITA to push multiple buttons, but I have gotten use to it. Even my wife has been able to make most things work (most of the time).

One thing I didn't point out, as I have had this argument in the audio forum, is you have to switch inputs on both the TV AND on the receiver/int. amp as opposed to just swtiching them on the receiver if you send audio to the receiver and video to the TV. Of course, having a A/V receiver adds alot of cos that I didn't see worth it and the previously mentioned issue of not having the ability of different picture adjustments between inputs.

You do know you an use the DVI out on the 205 (with the proper cable) to the receiver or TV, don't you?

You do know you an use the DVI out on the 205 (with the proper cable) to the receiver or TV, don't you?


Yeah, but my Receiver does not like the DVI output of the 205 for some obscure reason :mad:

Some good news, Onkyo is sending me a Firmware upgrade for the 875 that fixes the Audio Delay. The HDMI failure is because the 875 only supports inputs that conform to the Media Encryption Scheme and the 205 does not.

SWR

You also selected the switch on the back to DVI and not component or the other? That's not the 480/720/1080 setting. Just checking, because that can make a difference on what port is sends the picture over.

Even after my upgrade to the firmware I have had no success with optical audio. Only rca's work. :(

Do you get anything at all over optical? I used to get only stereo sound from my 205. No matter what I did or changed, the Dolby Digital would not work. I had decided to just live with it till I later found a better alternative. (I use the 205 in my theater and don't do a lot of tv watching in there anyway)
Then one day, I turn it on and it suddenly starts sending the proper surround sound signals. Ever since then it has worked fine. I have no idea how that happened. :confused: [/shrug_shoulders]

Do you get anything at all over optical? I used to get only stereo sound from my 205. No matter what I did or changed, the Dolby Digital would not work. I had decided to just live with it till I later found a better alternative. (I use the 205 in my theater and don't do a lot of tv watching in there anyway)
Then one day, I turn it on and it suddenly starts sending the proper surround sound signals. Ever since then it has worked fine. I have no idea how that happened. :confused: [/shrug_shoulders]

Just a suggestion; did you verify that the broadcaster was sending out 5.1? I know in my area, only CBS sends out a 5.1 signal.

Do you get anything at all over optical? I only get sound from the analog cables. The optical doesn't work. I tried different cables. The 205 is also freezing or completely stopping when I watch HD television. I'll have to give customer service a call. I need something to watch Football in HD.

Just a suggestion; did you verify that the broadcaster was sending out 5.1? I know in my area, only CBS sends out a 5.1 signal.

Ya, everything was as it should be. I just could not get the 205 to work properly. Like I said though, it's working fine now, so no sweat... for ME anyway.

So my problems worked themselves out. Looks like my DVI to HDMI cable wasn't compatible with my 885 and the optical cable I was using is bad. So now everything works fine. Always fun to troubleshoot.

Anyone has remote codes or discrete codes for the remote of the PHD205?

I am looking for a Set Top Box that has both NTSC and ATSC. Would a PHD-205 be a good choice? Where is the best place to buy one used? Ebay?

Direct from the importer.

I want to love the PHD-205, but for me it's been a nightmare. I've contacted their tech support so many times and the thing is a real PITA in my opinion. Can't see to get it to work with my MX-3000 properly or any other universal remote. It didn't pick up nearly as good reception as other boxes we've had. They keep pointing the finger in my direction, but I disagree. It's the only piece of equipment I have the doesn't work error free.

Others have asked about remote codes for this. One thing I have never bothered looking into. I would say most decent 'Learning' remotes should be able to deal with this. You just have to 'learn' each button. It's easier then trying to figure out complicated codes etc.

I use this more as a 'test' and 'troubleshooting' receiver to take to friends homnes that have issues with reception. I know what I can and can not receive with this unit. I use it as a benchmark up against what he has.
With the availability of the newer CECB's, the tuners in those are far better than what is in this model (being a year older). I don't know how this compares with the Samsung tuner (now for around the same price) that came out before the orginal version of this.

Example, I have three 'locals' 20+ miles away that are usually to the backside of my antenna. With two of them, the signal is strong enough, but due to multipath, the four tuners I have (TV's, STB & DVR) will not receive them. These new CECB's will! I'm sure it's because of better BER correction, not necessarly sensistivity.

pgwalsh; What other STB's do you have or had?

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pgwalsh; What other STB's do you have or had?

Juts a comcast box and built in tuners for TV's. The built in tuners on two of the TV's did a better job than the 205. The comcast box picked up everything from comcast. The 205 failed to pick up many stations with the cable connection. Our cable runs are long, but still couldn't believe that this dedicated box was outdone by two tv's built in tuners. The 205 is used for the projector in the room where the other tv's are for casual watching. Great sports setup. One TV is a 42" sharp LCD and the other is a samsung 61" dlp. Both did a much better job.

However, I've pretty much fixed the reception issues. I've tried several times to program the remote with the mx-3000, which is a very highend remote, but have mixed results.

I may get some discrete codes this weekend. I've been given some information from epvision that should help. They'll be pronto codes, but at least I know the frequency and the standard etc. If I have success, but it's still flakey, then I'll have to get rid of the unit and find something else.

Juts a comcast box..........The 205 failed to pick up many stations with the cable connection.1. Are you talking about CATV or OTA?
2. How long are these 'runs'?
If you are talking about encripted digital channels that aren't 'in the clear' (ones you are paying for), than any other tuner won't receive them either.

Using the term "cable" is too broad, since it can mean many things.

As far as that remote, forget those silly codes and just get a "Learning" remote. it's alot easier. ;)

1. Are you talking about CATV or OTA?
2. How long are these 'runs'?
If you are talking about encripted digital channels that aren't 'in the clear' (ones you are paying for), than any other tuner won't receive them either.

Using the term "cable" is too broad, since it can mean many things.

As far as that remote, forget those silly codes and just get a "Learning" remote. it's alot easier. ;)
Bruce,

The URC MX-3000 is one of the best learning remotes on the market. Those codes aren't silly and have been vital in setting up a completely automated system including room lighting and electronic curtains. Toggle switches are useless when automating a system. Discrete codes allow you to hit on or off without toggling and that's key. Apparently you're not familiar with the remote, but it's something else. Touch screen etc.

The cable runs are 100ft plus. No encrypted channels and it's basic cables. Brand new cable lines. Fact is, the 205 just isn't as good at picking up the stations. When I use a signal enhancer where the cable splits it works okay.

The 'Learning' remotes I have used only require you to aim one remote at the other and push buttons. No codes. I don't need to control everything in the house. This is just a simple STB, it surely doesn't need a fancy remote. You probably paid 2x for the remote that what you paid for the box.

100' is a very long run, especially inside the house. With the usual, marginal CATV signal coming in, and a few splits, what is left over is in the mud. I never bothered to compare any of my tuners with marginal CATV signals. There was no need to. As you stated, useing a DA ("signal enhancer" as you called it), would solve low signals levels which you apparently have.

Any luck locating discrete power on/off codes for the PHD-205?

Any luck locating discrete power on/off codes for the PHD-205?I haven't had a chance to work with it yet. Hopefully tomorrow.

I haven't had much luck finding one of these used. Are there any of set top boxes that I can get that are both NTSC and ATSC? Also, are there any places where people have reviewed these and compared them to one another?

The PHD-101 doesn't have NTSC.

I haven't had much luck finding one of these used. Are there any of set top boxes that I can get that are both NTSC and ATSC? Also, are there any places where people have reviewed these and compared them to one another?

I use an older RCA DTC-210 stb for basic cable and ATSC reception. This is an old Directv receiver that can be used without a subscription. Because it is older, the ATSC reception is not good in areas with high multipath interference, at least not nearly as good as the current converter boxes. But if you are in an area where you can get a good, clean OTA signal, it works great.

The one thing that makes me like this box over others is that it combines basic cable, NTSC and ATSC channels into one lineup. It has seperate RF inputs for cable, antenna, and satellite (which I don't use). Alot of other stb's or TV tuners make you switch inputs in the menu in order to change channels. But if I hit the channel up button on the RCA unit, and if I have a cable channel 38, an analog broadcast 38, and a digital 38.1, then it will go something like cable channel 37, cable channel 38, analog 38, digital 38.1, then cable channel 39. The unit makes a small click when it switches tuners internally, but otherwise it is seamless.

I have purchased a few of these boxes on Ebay over the last couple of years, usually for around $25-35/shipped.

Thank you for the tip. I will start watching Ebay for an RCA DTC-210.

Any time I try setting the PHD-205 to 720 or 1080 by the back panel switch the picture is not watchable and is mostly purple. If it's set to 480 it's ok but when watching something that is 1080i I would like to see it projected at 1080! Any one seen this before or know what the fix might be if there is one? Or do I have a bad unit?

Thanks,

- Justin

Justin,

How do you have it connected HDMI, Component. If it's DVI to HDMI, try using a component cable.

jbwjbw; Posting what TV you have would help.

BTW; welcome the the forums.

Justin,

How do you have it connected HDMI, Component. If it's DVI to HDMI, try using a component cable.

I'm using the VGA connector on the back of the PDH-205 unit to a projector, a Sanyo 16:9 projector, I don't happen to have the model number with me but it's less then a year old.

- Justin

I'm using the VGA connector on the back of the PDH-205 unit to a projector, a Sanyo 16:9 projector, I don't happen to have the model number with me but it's less then a year old.

- Justin
Email epvision.com to see if there are any VGA limitations. You could try another type of connector if possible. I had to switch from DVI to component and then I had no issues.

Email epvision.com to see if there are any VGA limitations. You could try another type of connector if possible. I had to switch from DVI to component and then I had no issues.

I did order a component to vga cable after I had the issue just in case that would work better then the vga connector/connection on the PHD-205.

Because of the location of the projector and the the fact it only has a VGA cable run to it I'm trying to utilize that, running additional cables to the projector is not practical at this time. I did e-mail epvision but have not heard anything as of yet. We'll see how the component to vga cable works.

Thanks,

- Justin

I did e-mail epvision but have not heard anything as of yet. We'll see how the component to vga cable works.

Thanks,

- Justin

If the component to vga doesn't work call them. I forgot that they're not that responsive to email.

If the component to vga doesn't work call them. I forgot that they're not that responsive to email.

I did finally get a reply. They suggested connecting the unit up to a regular computer monitor and see if it does the same thing. Rather then lug a monitor where I have the 205 at I'll wait and try the component to vga first. We'll see what happens. - Justin

component to vga cableNo such thing, unless you believe those marketing scams (eg. HD antenna). Just as there is no such thing as a composite to S-video or S-video to composite cable. There are component to VGA and composite to S-video transcoders, but you can't convert one format to another with just a simple cable. It needs an active device between the two.

VGA has five signal lines, component only has three (H&V sync rides on the Y signal);
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YPbPr

Many ATI cards can use their component adapter, but the conversion is done within the card, not the adapter.

The 205 isn't the greatest with computer monitors. On two that I tried, the results were disappointing due to the lack of a scaler within the monitor, since one isn't needed for computer use.

I'm using the VGA connector on the back of the PDH-205 unit to a projector, a Sanyo 16:9 projector, I don't happen to have the model number with me but it's less then a year old.
Posting the model number of the projector would help. As videobruce said, I really doubt a component to VGA connector is going to work. Is your projector designed to handle 720p/1080i signals? What input ports does it have on it?

I had mixed results using my PHD-205 with a computer monitor, the 480 seemed to work best for my purposes that the time, but I don't think I was trying to watch a HD station. I didn't get purple colors though in 720p/1080i. It just would put the output shifted too far to one side of the screen, and not quite the right aspect ratio. If I'd played with the adjustments on the monitor, I probably could've gotten it to look good, but it was just a temporary setup. But the monitor was a pretty old, high-end Sony multisync that's handled nearly everything I've thrown at it.

No such thing, unless you believe those marketing scams (eg. HD antenna). Just as there is no such thing as a composite to S-video or S-video to composite cable. There are component to VGA and composite to S-video transcoders, but you can't convert one format to another with just a simple cable. It needs an active device between the two.

VGA has five signal lines, component only has three (H&V sync rides on the Y signal);
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YPbPr

Many ATI cards can use their component adapter, but the conversion is done within the card, not the adapter.

The 205 isn't the greatest with computer monitors. On two that I tried, the results were disappointing due to the lack of a scaler within the monitor, since one isn't needed for computer use.

I guess you are correct about the cable. I was in a hurry to order some cables. It may work but I'm not sure how likely. Here is one of the cables I'm getting, who knows what it will do.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10235&cs_id=1023503&p_id=2170&seq=1&format=2

We'll see.

- Justin

Posting the model number of the projector would help. As videobruce said, I really doubt a component to VGA connector is going to work. Is your projector designed to handle 720p/1080i signals? What input ports does it have on it?

I had mixed results using my PHD-205 with a computer monitor, the 480 seemed to work best for my purposes that the time, but I don't think I was trying to watch a HD station. I didn't get purple colors though in 720p/1080i. It just would put the output shifted too far to one side of the screen, and not quite the right aspect ratio. If I'd played with the adjustments on the monitor, I probably could've gotten it to look good, but it was just a temporary setup. But the monitor was a pretty old, high-end Sony multisync that's handled nearly everything I've thrown at it.

The projector is a SANYO PLC-XT25 and does support 1080i, it looks like. The VGA connection first goes to a scaler / video switcher first before going to the projector, I wonder if that could be causing an issue or if I there is something wrong with the 205. I guess I may need to hook the 205 right up to a monitor and not the projector to see what the picture looks like. I assume on the 205 you can just switch between the 480/720/1080 on the fly without power cycling it? I wish the projector was closer to where I'll have the 205 so I could run a DVI cable but the distance is just too great.

- Justin

I'm new to using this forum, but hoped someone had located the discrete IR codes for the PHD-205. If im not looking in the right place...could you point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance

I recieved my 205 recently and set it up quickly.

I wanted to see what I would get out of my 15 bills a month basic broacast cablevision here on LI (cut them back) it's money of course.

Looked good initially but got to fully play with it today.
Picture quality on 52" inch toshiba crt 1080i living room tube is excellent!
That is on the 8 1080 chanels I get. I also get another 32 non hd or 720p both ntsc and atsc after removing the ntsc doubles.
40 usable channels, not bad i was hoping for this.
Picture quality is as good or better than the cablevision box that it replaced at 1080i.
NTSC and non 1080 ATSC look much better than with the cable provided box!

Cons:

It looked to me like like the box it came in had been around the block a few times and their was an obvious light scratch or maybe I'd call it a streak on top of the unit, it looks like someone ran a pencil eraser across it.I expect a new unit not someones return (eh hem epvision). Maybe they just took it out and updated the firmware I dunno. It has he latest firmware after searching through this thread.

I had to remove over 200 channels, tedious process, can't it tell encryted from non encrypted channels?

Audio didn't work on digital dolby 5.1 to my samsung theatre in a box surround system through optical cable at first but a cold reboot did fix that.

Anyway, 30 minutes of writing down numbers and playing with it and I have it set up perfect, it works better than I'd hoped.
The remote works at my 8-9 foot viewing distance but does have to pointed directly at the unit from any distance.

It does what I wanted and does it well but not happy it wasn't brand new.

I'll keep it due it works well and not worth the hassle of returning for not being new when it does work.
They should sell a unit like this as open box or re-certified and charge 50 bucks less.


I think my review here is enough, people here are the ones most likely to order it and they and epvision will see my comments and I read someone else had the same experience, "mixed batteries in the remote etc...".

Once again though, it does work very well and I would buy another if I could be sure it was new or get a deal on another open box unit.

I'm new to using this forum, but hoped someone had located the discrete IR codes for the PHD-205. If im not looking in the right place...could you point me in the right direction.Along the same lines, does anybody know if the PHD-205 can be controlled by any recorder's IR blasters, and if so, which ones and what tuner brand's codes does it use?

I use an older RCA DTC-210 stb for basic cable and ATSC reception. This is an old Directv receiver that can be used without a subscription. Because it is older, the ATSC reception is not good in areas with high multipath interference, at least not nearly as good as the current converter boxes. But if you are in an area where you can get a good, clean OTA signal, it works great.

The one thing that makes me like this box over others is that it combines basic cable, NTSC and ATSC channels into one lineup. It has seperate RF inputs for cable, antenna, and satellite (which I don't use). Alot of other stb's or TV tuners make you switch inputs in the menu in order to change channels. But if I hit the channel up button on the RCA unit, and if I have a cable channel 38, an analog broadcast 38, and a digital 38.1, then it will go something like cable channel 37, cable channel 38, analog 38, digital 38.1, then cable channel 39. The unit makes a small click when it switches tuners internally, but otherwise it is seamless.

I have purchased a few of these boxes on Ebay over the last couple of years, usually for around $25-35/shipped.

Does the RCA provide guide data for "In the clear" cable channels?

Does the RCA provide guide data for "In the clear" cable channels?

No, the RCA does not have a QAM tuner, so it cannot get "in the clear" cable channels. It can tune analog cable (no guide data), NTSC OTA, and ATSC OTA. It will only show PSIP data for ATSC stations (pretty much limited to title only, no program description) if the station broadcasts it.

Here is my latest problem with the PHD-205, as described in my email to them below. Anyone else notice this issue?

And by the way, this link is a great place to get QAM lineups by zip code:
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us
*****
Dear epvision,
In my area (zip 95014) with comcast QAM cable, for example, USAN should be at 78.7 but on your PHD205 it is 78.11. PBS Kids should be on 91.10, but on the PHD205 it is 91.6. There are dozens of channels that are wrong like this. The main channel number is good, but the subchannel number is wrong.

I have two PC digital tuners and a brand new Philips digital DVR. They all agree with each other and with the lineup listing at
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineupui?Cmd=LocationProgramsWeb&Country=US&Postcode=95014

Only the PHD205 is different. All equipment is hooked to the same comcast service.

Can you please explain this and when you will fix it with a firmware update? Thanks.

For anyone who was asking about universal remotes for the PHD-205, the OneForAll remotes have an upgrade available over the phone (their remotes reprogram by the tones on the phone through a built-in audio modem!) for some of their more advanced remote. I had an 89xx something I got on ebay for about $50. I think the upgrade was in the category of Sattelite Receivers or something bizarre like that. It wasn't in my manual, but when I called, they found the model and played the tones for me. Unfortunately, I had dropped my remote and the built in audio modem got broken. So the reprogram was not successful.

Then I got a Logitech Harmony 550 on sale somewhere for $50. Logitech keeps up with all this gear. They had the software for the PHD-205 online. I loaded it to the remote through the USB connector and it worked fine. But I had to custom program a few buttons using the Logitech software to make, e.g., favorites lists convenient and to preserve some buttons to control some TV features.

The weak remote performance is definitely the included remote, not the sensor. The universal remotes work much better than the included remote.

physicsguy52; Funny, I use my 205 as a reference for physical channel numbers since my other three tunesr are so inconsistent. I have noticed a couple of discreptencies with a few CATV channels. Ones that don't get remapped to some fictitious, fabricated, unofficial channel number. :mad:

A very simple solution if thises Asian companies and their lame American counterparts would wake up and realize how much a problem these MSO's are causing with their lousy musical channel channel lineups and just allow (through a option) to display phicial channel numbers. :rolleyes:

Your PC tuners, do both of them allow displaying 'physical' channel numbers instead of 'virtual' channel numbering?

Those AllInOne 8910's and the discontinued 9910 are great remotes, especially considering the price. A fraction of what those overpriced Harnony remotes go for. The ability of programming all the keys except two (which is undocumented), makes them a "Best Buy". It's too bad there isn't more memory, since that is the limiting factor. There is only enough memory for 20 to 22 'saves' or changes.

Why they ever discontinued the 9910 with the RF function is beyond me. At $28 it was a 'steel'.

Videobruce: Yes, those were all physical channel numbers I was reporting. A few of the major networks map into the ATSC-type virtual channels and that is OK with me. I just wish comcast would be consistent. If they are going to include that info in the PSIP stream of some of the broadcast channels they provide over cable, they should do it for all of them.

I sent a prod over to epvision tonight to answer my question. They usually respond on the second request. We'll see.

A couple months later and my PHD-205 is still working properly.
I just picked up a Logitech Harmony 550 on ebay and it works so much better than the remote that came with it, in fact the programming software let me program in my PHD-205 my Hitachi 52" and my samsung HT-X40 surround system. I push one button and all three turn on or off, it's brilliant.

Whoever it was that mentioned the Harmony 550 here on the thread, THANK YOU.

Thank you. I just recently found this forum for the 205. I was relieved to find out that others were having similar problems as i was. I applied this mod to fix analog sync loss, along with firmware update, and now things are much improved. I use receive signal through comcast cable. Within the last week, I did my monthly rescan of channels to keep up with comcast's changes. Now suddenly all of the "on demand" channels that used to appear are now black with "no picture" displayed. Anyone else seeing this problem?

Your MSO just caught up with their error. Your 'free' ride is now over.

PS: Welcome to the forums.

I don't know what's going on. I just received the PHD-205 and connected it to my Comcast cable. It was working fine for about 2 hours or so, now any digital TV QAM channel skips like mad. As if it's got low signal, but when looking at the signal strength on the channel it's only missing 1 slit.

Very annoying as the TV in the living room, a Samsung HDTV with built in tuner, is tuning into these channels just fine.

Looks like I've got a defective unit or something... :(

Already on FW 33.33.15 too

EDIT: Maybe it's my wall outlet in my bedroom? It's odd cuz it showed all full 'cept one slit... I put one of those SIGNAL AMPLIFIER boxes on the wall outlet, though I also unplugged the unit, and now it's not skipping. The signal level is the same, though. Full 'cept for one slit. If it starts skipping again after 2 hours or whatever, the unit is probably bad. 'cuz like I said, front room TV is having no issues, but it's using it's internal tuner.

"Skipping"??
You shouldn't need that amp, especially right out the outlet. A amp should go where the feed enters the building, not at the end of the line.

"Skipping"??
You shouldn't need that amp, especially right out the outlet. A amp should go where the feed enters the building, not at the end of the line.

Well even with the amp, it's still occasionally skipping. Like, you know acting like the feed is low signal where you get artificats every now and then and it pauses for a split second or the sound breaks up, etc now and then.

I probably should just return this unit.

I've noticed recently on HD channels that sometimes the picture freezes for an instant and the dolby cuts then comes back, driving my Onkyo receiver crazy clicking back and forth. I turned it off for a few min last night and it seemed to work. This morning it would do it randomly throughout a 20 min session. It has never done this in 6 months of using it.

Anyone else have this isssue?

Thought I should quote this guy after looking back in the thread. This is pretty much what my unit is doing and started doing it after the first couple of hours of using it after unboxing.

It's still doing it and it's quite annoying. Makes me sad :(

Shouldn't be doing this as it's hooked up to Comcast cable and not an antenna.

Like, you knowLike, I don't know.
Sounds as you are talking about the 'cliff effect' though it shouldn't be a issue with CATV.
Probably more likely a high BER (Bit Error Rate) or other problems due to the usual crappy CATV feed.

1. How many splits (TV's, STB's etc) do you have?
2. Bypass all of them (with barrels) and run a direct cable line into this tuner and report back.
3. Do you have any other amps? If so, remove them.
4. Does this happen after the unit has been on for any time period, or is it only occasional?

Like, I don't know.
Sounds as you are talking about the 'cliff effect' though it shouldn't be a issue with CATV.
Probably more likely a high BER (Bit Error Rate) or other problems due to the usual crappy CATV feed.

1. How many splits (TV's, STB's etc) do you have?
2. Bypass all of them (with barrels) and run a direct cable line into this tuner and report back.
3. Do you have any other amps? If so, remove them.
4. Does this happen after the unit has been on for any time period, or is it only occasional?

1. To the first, there's only one split and that's on the TV in the front room. It splits the signal with the cable modem and the TV.
In the room I'm having a problem with, my bedroom, the cable was directly connected to the PHD-205 directly and experienced the problem.
2. Did that initially, still happens.
3. No, none.
4. It happens all the time at random intervals. Even from power on.

Then you have three devices, a cable modem, TV and this tuner, correct?
Does this happen on any channel?
Have you tried moving the tuner to another room or move it away from whatever TV you have in the bedroom?

Might have to send it back for an exchange.

Then you have three devices, a cable modem, TV and this tuner, correct?
Does this happen on any channel?
Have you tried moving the tuner to another room or move it away from whatever TV you have in the bedroom?

Might have to send it back for an exchange.

Yep, just those 3 devices.

And, yes, any channel that's digital... analog channels are fine. Look fine too.

I haven't tried moving the tuner to the living room where the TV that has it's own internal tuner is, though. Those are the only two outlets I have. (I live in a 1 bedroom apartment...)

I shall contemplate it, but I'm also thinking of just returning the PHD-205 and probably buying another TV for the bedroom anyway.

I'm hooking up the PHD-205 now to a small 24" Dell 2405FPW... I sort of found I'd like a slightly bigger picture... was thinking about just picking up a cheap 32" LCD from Wal-Mart or something that already has a tuner built in. It'll be a little over $200 more than the PHD-205, but it'd probably be worth it for the increase in screen size. I do MOST of my TV watching on the LN52A650 in the living room, but sometimes I like to watch something just before falling asleep... so yeah... I will think about my options!

Need to know has anyone had this box just get stuck in boot. The unit was working a few days ago I do not watch much tv at all. But tonight I turn it on and it just sits on the boot the tv is blank.

Bad thing not sure when I got it or were any of the stuff like the box is at.

I am getting the "BOOT" message. Was there ever a fix for it???

Best bet is to call him and ask. Don't bother with e-mails.

Best bet is to call him and ask. Don't bother with e-mails.

That is just BAD customer service to not answer emails. He is perfectly content on collecting money transferred via the web, and take order via the web, but won't answer emails.:rolleyes:.

It converts optical/toslink (audio) into digital coax (audio). Has nothing to do with video.
I think I may have misunderstood what you were asking in the first place. I thought you were saying that your tv had a digital coax audio input, but no optical input. Maybe what you are saying is that it only has an F-cable input?

And that reply pertains to which post?? :confused:

A question from a friend. He has one of the PHD-101 which he uses to view HD cable (unencrypted). He is now looking at ditching cable completely and just watch FTA channels. I am assuming the PHD-101 has both a QAM and ATSC tuner so he can put up a UHF antenna and potentially pick up the digital FTA channels?

The main problem I think he has is, he's in a poor reception area (lives in the San Ramon, CA valley) so it might be touch and go if he can pick up anything. Still with digital my experience is, if you can get a signal, then while if it's an analog UHF picture it might be unviewable, digital is more forgiving?

Hello...
I have a question about this line of HDTV STB, do any of them have any kind timed recording, manual or guide based, for unattended recordings of different channels to a DVDrecorder, DVR or even VCR ...
I read the instructions online for the 205 and they are nebulous in that regards... only a line in the troubleshooting section that states that a power outage would would clear the timers which i assume means just the clock...

Also, in the same vein, does anyone know if the PHD-205 can be controlled by an IR blaster?

I am assuming the PHD-101 has both a QAM and ATSC tuner so he can put up a UHF antenna and potentially pick up the digital FTA channels?As posted eariler, with the 1st firmware upgrade, it allows dual memories for OTA and CATV. You just have to have an extenal RF switch and change tuner modes through the menu. If I remember correctly, there was a 2nd firmware upgrade, but I never looked into this as what it changed and/or fixed.

Hello...
I have a question about this line of HDTV STB, do any of them have any kind timed recording, manual or guide based, for unattended recordings of different channels to a DVDrecorder, DVR or even VCR ...
I read the instructions online for the 205 and they are nebulous in that regards... only a line in the troubleshooting section that states that a power outage would would clear the timers which i assume means just the clock...

The PHD series is only a tuner box. No recording of any kind.

The PHD series is only a tuner box. No recording of any kind.
I don't mean to say that the box will record anything, can the box be set to change channels by date/time for unattended recording onto another device

I don't mean to say that the box will record anything, can the box be set to change channels by date/time for unattended recording onto another device
no

As posted eariler, with the 1st firmware upgrade, it allows dual memories for OTA and CATV. You just have to have an extenal RF switch and change tuner modes through the menu. If I remember correctly, there was a 2nd firmware upgrade, but I never looked into this as what it changed and/or fixed.

I must be blind since I can only find a link for the 205 firmware, not for the 101 which My friend has. Is there a 101 firmware release?

Thanks

Hey all,
I was curious if anyone has ever tried using the phd 205 as an upconverter? I have a projector with no scaling and a Time Warner HD DVR which scales poorly. I was thinking of using the PHD 205 set on channel 3 to upconvert my TW HD DVR set to output auto(480p,720p,1080i). Would this work? I may try and report back if no one knows the answer. But with a scaler costing around $1000 this might be a good solution for those of us without a decent scaler.

Unless your DVR output clear QAM on the channel 3 output, I don't think that will work as you hope.

Yeah unfortunately the rf cable out will only put out 480i as I found out. I guess I will just keep switching back and fourth between hd on my dvr and sd on the phd 205 as it does a great job with sd.

i performed a succesful firmware upgrade 33.33.15 on my 205. But I now have lost the ability to keep separate scans from both OTA and cable. When you perform a scan now it overwrites the previous regardless of what tuner is set. Has this happened to anyone else after updating?

I have only done the 1st upgrade: 33.33.09.
Is this .15 version the 2nd upgrade or was there something in between?

this has been my only update from the stock firmware issued on the receiver. Was I supposed to update incremental firmwares? The reason i ask is most firmwares include all changes/additions as each one is made; or am I incorrect?

I don't know. I only tried the 1st update that allows separate scans with memory (OTA & CATV).
Did you call for the firmware? What are the changes?

I searched back into this thread. The ".15" version was issued last November (or eariler). Nothing was posted what the changes were.

A friend is having a strange problem with his 205

To quote

"The digital tuner appears to be locking up  Not sure if it’s shenanigans from Comcast it unexpectedly powers itself down a lot and needs to be power cycled to get it to come back up. If I simply tune up/down for the most part it seems to work (though it will occasionally power off) but if I dial in a channel directly the system powers itself off  I don’t think it’s a heat thing as it is not near any major heat sources so if it’s not a unit error, I suspect zap-signals from Comcast! "

He is with Comcast in the Bay Area.

Has anybody experienced this problem. Not sure what firmware he has but the unit was bought Dec 07 so I think there is a later firmware out there. Might that help?

Thanks

Larry

My PHD-200 did that a lot and I call tech support. Turned out to be a bad power supply. Even though it was out of warranty they fixed it for free. Great company but email support is lacking so I would recommend you just skip that and call them.

My PHD-200 did that a lot and I call tech support. Turned out to be a bad power supply. Even though it was out of warranty they fixed it for free. Great company but email support is lacking so I would recommend you just skip that and call them.

Thanks for that. Will tell my friend to call them next week after the holiday weekend. Hope they will be accommodating for him as they were for you

Any sign of the the new PrimeDTV PHD-205LE yet?

They have it listed on there website for sale with a $10 discount.

Is there any real difference from the old 205 model besides just the inclusion of hdmi?

No NTSC anymore - only RF pass-through now.

Other than the clock (when in standby), $10 less than the 205 and the "Digital volumne control, I don't see any difference. Same ATI decoder. What was the old volume control? Nothing about the tuner other than its a; "next generation digital tuner".
Has anyone compared the analog audio out to the digital audio out? The analog on the 205 is rolled off at the high end.

In spite of what the comparision sheet shows, the 205 has/had S video out also.

Owners manual is here:
http://www.epvision.com/Documents/PHD-205LEv3.6_manual.pdf

Last I spoke to epvision tech support he said that they were working on a new device that would have DVR functionality. He did not give a time frame on when it would be to market.

Also looking at the manual for the LE it still only has one RF input so you can not have both cable clear QAM and OTA on one box. That is a my biggest complaint. Why should I have to have two boxes in my system???!!! But I digress.....

still only has one RF input so you can not have both cable clear QAM and OTA on one box. That is a my biggest complaint.I brought this up to him over a year ago.they were working on a new device that would have DVR functionalityHe discussed this a year ago also. :rolleyes:

Biggest question is; exactly what/which tuner is in this version.

No NTSC anymore - only RF pass-through now.
What a waste. Combined digital/analog reception was the best feature of this unit. If they're using the same chipset, why throw out the best feature?