Lnd Svyr -- And HD-DVD has only 3 titles available. Warner does not make any of the movies I want to watch anyway. At the price of the NS75H, it takes care of my current needs until the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war settles out and establishes a clear trend. Spending $500 (4x the cost of the NS75H) on an unproven new, and possible obsolete piece of equipment just does not make good economic sense.

If you don't think the NS75H is worth talking about, then don't post to this thread.

digitalvortex -- That's exactly the point! We agree 100%.

Just got my NS75H over the weekend. I went through the manual but could not find out how to change the play back resolution (480p, 720p or 1080i). thanks in advance :)

I went through the manual but could not find out how to change the play back resolution (480p, 720p or 1080i). thanks in advance
Depends - for component connections you set the progressive button on the front.

For HDMI connections = display -> bottom (config/toobox icon) -> custom -> video options -> HDMI default (you can use auto which will pick for TV)

I picked up an open box the other day @ BB - seems to work pretty well......but....when I played WOTW I noticed the picture was kind of grainy. This seemed especially prevelent in the beginning outdoor scenes.

I haven't noticed it on any other movies - is this the way it normally looks? (didn't see it in the theater)

you must stop playing whatever dvd is in your player..hit display buttom..scroll down to setup....highlight custom..hit enter...then you can scroll down to the video set up...and highlight the hdmi output....it is defaulted to auto..but you can change it to whichever looks best on your tv

thanks for the quick responses :) , I will check it out tonight. Mine was hood up through HDMI.
I watched The Matrix last night, while the picture is a lot nicer and very detail compared to my old panny, but I did see it was kind of grainy too. I have not do any adjustment yet.

I would suggest trying it at 1080i-- surprisingly mine looked better there and I have a native 720 projector.

Now here is a question for you...did any of you guys mess with the hue, tint, diffent buttoms that I found within. I only accidently came across it when I was switching between cinema 1, normal etc. I pressed a buttom that would allow me to customize my own setting there-- did any one see this??

I had gone to the tweaks thread for my panny projector to try some of the callibrations and one of the callibrators suggested not messing with the brightness after a point on the projector because then it causes other things to go up and so on. Anyway, he (CKL) suggested changing that at source and so I set the brightness up there.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know it was there...I had no idea.

if you set this thing to "auto" and you have a 768p native resolution tv, will this thing upconvert to 768p or the closest to 768p?

if you set this thing to "auto" and you have a 768p native resolution tv, will this thing upconvert to 768p or the closest to 768p?

I am also wondering about this. I just bought this DVD player and the Westinghouse 32w6. The Westy has a native resolution of 1366 x 768. I have it set to auto and was wondering the same thing. Also the Sony DVD remote's buttons do funky things to the Westinghouse TV. Hitting the DVD "Audio" buttons causes the TV's PIP to pop-up. Weird...

I am also wondering about this. I just bought this DVD player and the Westinghouse 32w6. The Westy has a native resolution of 1366 x 768. I have it set to auto and was wondering the same thing. Also the Sony DVD remote's buttons do funky things to the Westinghouse TV. Hitting the DVD "Audio" buttons causes the TV's PIP to pop-up. Weird...

Over HDMI the player can only output 480P, 720P and 1080i. If you set the player to AUTO the HDMI handshake will tell the player to get as close as possible to the native resolution of the display. In my case I have a 576P projector and the AUTO setting sets to 1080i which my display reports as 540P. In your case the player should set to 720P.

As for the remote, I use a Harmony so I have no experience with it's weird stray commands. If you've never used a Harmony remote you should look into it. It's one of those "how did I ever live without it" products.

In my case I have a 576P projector and the AUTO setting sets to 1080i which my display reports as 540P.
I never knew this. so if my display is 720p, then it is also 1440i???????


So can you dim the light on the front of this thing?

Yes, you can dim the lights and display. It's in the setup. I've got mine set to dim after a few seconds of inactivity.

The HDMI light is still bright though. Kinda distracting, I wish I could just turn it, and the progressive scan light, off entirely.

I had the new sammy 860 player and was not impressed. I got it at CC and returned it and got the DVPNC85HB last night. Wow, nice player. Much better picture and audio! I am getting a new sammy HLS tv os unfortunately it won't mach as well but I'll take the better picture.

Now I haven't had hardly any time with it yet other than basic set up and the major tweaks like audio. I was disappointed that I had to stop the movie to adjust settings.

I have one small problem. When I hit stop on the remote, it just starts the movie over? How do you actually STOP the dvd?

One stop is a "resume from here". This works across discs (6 IIRC). To fully stop a DVD just hit stop twice.

Note: one stop should have displayed a message along the lines of disc resumes from here

I also believe there's a way to turn if off in the settings.

where in the options is there a option to dim the display?

I believe it is called backlight or something like that. In the menu section. You can do it because i did it to mine.

Ktulu_1 -- I reran the HQV again last night (Component Connections only! -- My HDMI PJ is Dead!). The only difference was that the 3:2 Detection (Race Car) should have been a "0" at 480p and a borderline "10" (better than a "5" though) on 480i (the same results I got with my RP91 DVD player - same connections). Someone said (& I can't find it) that my total was wrong, true it was wrong :eek:. The correct total should be = 103, 480p (component) and 108+, 480i (component).I, too, am curious as to why we get different results (no to all your items 1 - 4). BTW, the NS75H has a button on the front panel to switch the Progressive mode On/Off. The other difference is that you are using the HDMI connection vs. my use of the Component Connections. This difference is likely the major cause (the original HQV Test Results thread gave the early models of the Panny S97 & Oppo 971H about the same results that you got with your NS75H, and they were worse than you got with your S77 tests - I went back and looked at your Post #296).

The only other possibility that I can come up with are the differences in our displays or our NS75Hs. I'm using a Mitsubishi HC3 LCD (960 x 540) projector on a 106" diagonal screen and you're using a JVC 56", D-ILA (1280 x 720) RPTV. As such, your display, although smaller, is much more precise than mine (mine does auto detect a progressive input). Also, I don't know what processing my projector is doing to the signal ("behind my back" :rolleyes: ). I have the HC3 "auto" functions turned off - at least the ones I can get to.

When my MT700 was working (1280 x 720, DLP projector, same screen), the results I got with my Panny RP91 DVD player (also Component connections) were similar to yours. After my MT700 failed & I got the HC3 as a (cheap backup), the RP91/HC3/HQV results were about the same. You can imagine how happy I was to see the NS75H improvement. There will be some differences in our scores due to the differences in our subjective perceptions, but not 40-50 points worth.

Its too bad we're about a half a continent away from each other. It would be interesting to see our NS75Hs side by side on the same display.



Since we both have digital (inherently progressive) displays, the displays have very little or nothing to do with many of the tests. The tests measure deinterlacing performance. If the player is outputting a progressive signal, your display does not/can not deinterlace it further.

When you test the player at 480i you are not testing the player's deinterlacer you are testing your display's deinterlacer. As such the 480i scores have no bearing in a discussion about the player. Except that you might be better off letting your display do the deinterlacing and you might be able to get an idea what different results look like.

It seems that your display's deinterlacer is better than the player's at least at 3:2 detection. You might also find that running the player at 480i the display passes one or more of the cadence tests. Pay careful attention to the lines in the cups in the cadence detection tests. Remember some flickering is as much of a failure as lots of flickering. If you go back to 480p, I think you'll find that the player fails them all.

I had a problem with many of the tests on the disc until I saw a example of a deinterlacer that clearly passed the test. The scoring in the test is carefully crafted to remove much of the subjectivity. Adhere as tightly as possible to the scoring guidelines. For example, you state that "[The 3:2 detection test is]a borderline "10" (better than a "5" though)" The result either meets the requirements of a 10 or it is a 5. There is no in between.

You also stated earlier that "Picture Detail = 10 (this was a 5 on some DVDs as I can see EE on some of them)." To score the tests properly you should only use the material on the test disc. Some DVDs have edge enhancement on them. Faulting the player for this is not cool.

I've gone back and made a honest effort to verify my results. I can find no fault in my methods. I'm convinced that they are sound. My results are in line with many of the results found in the HQV Benchmark 1.4 DVD Player Shootout (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=550103&page=1&pp=60). I not going to try and convince anyone else.

With all due respect Claus, the more I read your comments the more I think that you might be misinterpreting some of the results. If you wish, I would be willing to help. Please contact me via PM and we can go from there. Otherwise I urge you to question your methods.


FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm done with this player. I sent it back today for a refund. I've accumulated quite a little pile of good, inexpensive, players and I don't need another one. I've also recently acquired a HD-DVD player and it's a pretty good SD-DVD player as well.

The 75H is a good player for the price. Good picture, good sound, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to someone looking for a player in this price range. My findings indicate that it's not a great deinterlacer but it's on par with players in it's price range and it matters little if you primarily watch movies.

The 75H is a good player for the price. Good picture, good sound, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to someone looking for a player in this price range. My findings indicate that it's not a great deinterlacer but it's on par with players in it's price range and it matters little if you primarily watch movies.
was this a review for component or hdmi?
if its not a great deinterlacer, could i set it to output 1080i, would the player do any deinterlacing?
and what do you mean if you primarily "watch movies"

Thanks man! Double stop it is; now we'll see how many times I have to tell the wife that before she remembers. lol

Just picked one up at Sears for $129. I'm using HDMi to my Sony 42A10 and resolution set to 720p. Big upgrade over my Panny RP-91. Looks like the NS75H is a keeper until Blu-ray gets rolling.

when he says if you primariliy watch movies...I think he means that tv shows (you know how they offer the series on dvd) require a good deinterlacing dvd player while with normal film source you do not.

was this a review for component or hdmi?
if its not a great deinterlacer, could i set it to output 1080i, would the player do any deinterlacing?
and what do you mean if you primarily "watch movies"

I don't think so, I don't know about this player but others I have experience with deinterlace, scale, and then interlace to output 1080i.

Film sourced material is relatively simple to deinterlace. Things shot on video, animation, etc. can be difficult. A better deinterlacer will show less artifacts with this kind of material.

EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I realize I have no idea how the player would scale an interlaced signal. I might be missing something but I'd be willing to bet that it deinterlaces before it scales.

I've had the 42px60u for a month now and it looks great. SD channels look good and the HD channels phenomenal ,were very happy
I was thinking about picking up a Sony’s DVP-NS75H upscaling dvd player while the Blu-ray/HD-DVD wars play out lol. It seems cheap and upscales to 780p/1080i.

Is it a good idea or a waste of money?
Is it going to improve PQ substantially on a 60u or is it a gimmick to get peoples cash?
This sight is addicting I'm constantly looking at it for the next best thing lol

Thanks for your input

I think those settings (out of 100) are on the TV, to get the equivalent results on the AVIA test disk for each of the DVD settings. I don't think you can adjust the DVD player picture settings on standard, cinema 1 or cinema 2.

JCPZero


That is correct - those are the settings on the TV. I haven't adjusted any picture settings on the DVD Player, beyond Standard, Cinema 1 or Cinema 2.

ohhh soo he set his tv different for each dvd setting? do you get better PQ if you do that?


You definitely should recalibrate your display if you change from Standard, Cinema 1 or Cinema 2. The optimum settings listed are for each display mode, as calibrated using the AVIA calibration disc.

What's the difference between RGB and YCbCr over HDMI and which is a better choice? I've tried both & see some differences but nothing that couldn't be tweaked & replicated from either setting.

What's the difference between RGB and YCbCr over HDMI and which is a better choice? I've tried both & see some differences but nothing that couldn't be tweaked & replicated from either setting.

Actually, I noticed this last night and was wondering the same thing...??

i have the panny 42px50u.....it is a great match..the picture looked great through the components..but now that I resolved my hdmi problem...had a bad cable......it looks incredible..the panny plasma is a great tv..and this dvd player will bring out the best in it..other than hdtv of course...or when the format war ends ...a good hd-dvd player

I am trying to decide if I want to get the 75H or the 85H.... and there is one thing that is concerning me...

Does anyone actually know for sure that the "guts" of the 85H is the same as the 75H? It seems to be assumed throughout this thread, but I haven't seen any real proof of this. (I have seen other brands completely change the components used between different models with very similar model numbers)

Thanks.

Guys did you notice that in the area where you choose cinema one, cinema 2 ,etc. there is a setting where you can make your own and within that you can adjust brighness, tint, etc.???

Yes, you can dim the lights and display. It's in the setup. I've got mine set to dim after a few seconds of inactivity.

The HDMI light is still bright though. Kinda distracting, I wish I could just turn it, and the progressive scan light, off entirely.

Try a small piece of electrical tape over the light, might do the trick for you.

Actually, I noticed this last night and was wondering the same thing...??

On my direct view CRT I have to set it to RGB to get the colors right otherwise it's like one of the colors is missing if I use the other setting.

Guys did you notice that in the area where you choose cinema one, cinema 2 ,etc. there is a setting where you can make your own and within that you can adjust brighness, tint, etc.???
Yep - called "memory" I believe. Already have too many settings - lol - not sure I'd use those.

RE: RGB and YCbCr - the only difference I noticed was a bit of change in some dark scenes & then nothing I couldn't tweak to match if I chose (PDP). I.E. Incredibles scene were Mrs was hopping onto the mono rail ball it was much lighter w/ RGB - otherwise no diff as far as I could tell.

Is there anyway to make this player region free?

And speaking of that, i have a pal dvd on my Hard drive. if i burn this to a dvd and play it on a player that is region free on my tv, will it look the same as if i played the same dvd but it was ntsc (will the aspect ratio be the same)????

I got the 85H today, still waiting for the HDMI cable in the mail...

I played an MP3 CD that I burned, and it worked fine.... but I noticed that the setting for shuffle went away in this mode. (Still exists for Audio CD and DVD Video)

Did Sony really disable the shuffle on MP3 discs???? My previous 2 cheap DVD players had this feature and I used it a lot to have a lot of random music in the background. I don't think I would actually return this player because it is missing this feature, but it seems pretty basic to not have.

Has anyone tried the "Track Selection" feature? It says it gives priority to the "soundtrack with the highest number of channels" when there are multiple audio formats.

Doesn't this usually happen anyway? How is the default audio track usually selected?

My test: I put in the Toy Story 10th Anniversary Edition, and it automatically picked the Dolby 2.0 track, not the DD5.1 or DTS6.1 that exist on that disc. But, all other movies I tried went to the proper 5.1 channel selection I would have expected. (It didn't matter if the Track Selection setting was Off or Auto, I saw the same results with the limited number of discs I tried.)

My local Best Buy is selling the 75H and the 85H at a few bucks HIGHER than the MSRP. I had them look up the Sony website and they knocked the price back down to "normal".

Anyone else seeing this, or are they just trying to rob us since they have no competition in my area?

And speaking of that, i have a pal dvd on my Hard drive. if i burn this to a dvd and play it on a player that is region free on my tv, will it look the same as if i played the same dvd but it was ntsc (will the aspect ratio be the same)????Been there, done that, got the T-shirt! The answer is No, unless your TV is PAL-capable (assuming your DVD player will even play a PAL DVD). Although copying the PAL DVD to your PC effectively makes it region free, if you then burn it to a new DVD it will be region free but still in PAL format. That is unless you can find an app that will do PAL-to-NTSC conversion on the PC (sorry, don't know of any). I've been through all of this myself and it looks like the quickest and easiest solution is to buy a region-free player that does PAL-to-NTSC conversion (the Pannys and Sonys don't) like the Pioneers, LGs, Oppo, etc. They can cost as low as $100 (some even cheaper but questionable quality) and is probably money well spent to get the desired results. I'm most likely going with the Pio 383 that a couple of other members recommended. Anyway, no need to get into it all of that here as there are some other threads on this from last week.

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EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I realize I have no idea how the player would scale an interlaced signal. I might be missing something but I'd be willing to bet that it deinterlaces before it scales.It's really hard to say because it depends on how Sony decided to design their processing chip(s). Since the 480i on the DVDs are already digital, they could just upscale to 1080i without de-interlacing. With a lot of players, you’re right though, they would deinterlace to 480p and then scale to 1080p and re-interlace to 1080i, since that's cheaper (same scaling path for both 720p and 1080p, with different endpoints).

I will send you a PM on our HQV discrepancies, when I get the time and have had a chance to re-run HQV again (with a much more critical eye -- I have to get my S.O. out of the room, because it bores her). I'm also interested (off-line) in your take on the HD-A1, since there are some preliminary "reviews" published that think it was rushed to market a little too fast.

yeah i saw bestbuy raised their price on the 75h too...the worst is PC richard's..which lists the player at 189.00..and sells it for 149.99....

Anyone else seeing this, or are they just trying to rob us since they have no competition in my area?
Yep - In my area they had it listed @ 132.99 (just a tad over).....happy I grabbed the open box @ $109.

It seems as though there are some varying opinions on this player. Is the overall take thats its just an average player?

Well my take on this player (based on experience & others statements) is that it's a good budget player. You get decent upconverting without the macro blocking associated with Faroudja based players.

It seems as though there are some varying opinions on this player. Is the overall take thats its just an average player?
My read of this thread is very different from yours - that the reaction to this player is overwhelmingly positive. I've been involved in the purchase of 2 NS75H players, one for a 32" LCD and the other for a 43" plasma. I think it's a very good player, especially for the low price. Without knowing long-term reliability, it just seems to work without any quirks. Just the kind of player you'd want to recommend to someone who wants to forget about having to mess with the player once it's installed.

Lnd Svyr

If you don't think the NS75H is worth talking about, then don't post to this thread.


Jeez! Where the h*ll did that come from? I wasn't knocking you so what's up? I HAVE the 75. I stated my opinion which is that HD-DVD will win out.

I'd have to agree that this is a great player for the price. I own this and the S97. Although the 540 firmare for the S97 greatly reduced macroblocking for me, I still do see it from time to time on my Toshiba DLP. So although I'm mostly happy with my Panasonic, I have kept my eye on the DVD forums to see if I can find a non-Faroudja replacement. When I read the early positive reviews on this Sony I decided to try it out.

I had tried a number of different upconverting players (Toshiba 5980, Samsung 850, LG 511, IIRC), and picture quality aside, the NS75H is the first player that has matched all the convenience features of the S97: Multi-disk resume, 2 channel audio via HDMI (for the wife and kids) and 5.1 to receiver without having to manually change anything, HDMI actually works with my TV, handles 4X3 AR automatically, no random lockups, and a few other things.

With all the other players I could tell differences in PQ as well, but I would have returned them anyway just based on those other issues. I don't have the most discriminating eye (you know when you go to the eye doctor for your yearly checkup and the first thing he says is, "Man, I forgot how blind you are!", you're fighting an uphill battle :) ). I haven't done any extensive side-by-side comparisons between the Panny & the Sony, but I have watched several DVD's that I'm familiar with and the PQ seems excellent, and on par with the S97 in most cases.

So I still plan to do some more critical comparisons between the two, but right now I'm definitely leaning towards keeping the Sony and sending the Panny on to some other happy home.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the Sony so far.

You can make a deal at PC Richards. I got the 85 version with changer for only $5 more than the lowest price posted for the 75. Go to the manager and try to make a deal. Each store manager will make a diffrerent deal to stop you from leaving.

Can't post the exact price I paid since it is against the rules.

Personally I think there is an overwhelming majority on this thread that thinks it's a really good buy.

i just bought this player but didnt recieve it yet
i do have 1 general question is it ok to stack a center speaker on top of this unit will it interfer
with playing dvds?
also im hooking it up via hdmi cable for the first time what im unclear on is,i think the cable carries audio as well as video and it going to my tv so do i connect a optical cable from my tv's output to my reciever to get 5.1 sound?
thanks for any info you guys can give me
also i dont know if it makes a differance but i have a sony kdp51ws655

I paid 90 bucks for my open box at best buy

I paid 90 bucks for my open box at best buy
How are you guys finding these Open Box? It just came out...

I talked to Sony about MP3s not working in shuffle mode, and they said that "operation can not be guaranteed with data discs". They wouldn't tell me if this was even normal or not... anyone else try MP3 discs on this player yet?

Is the Sony DVP-NS75H overkill if its paired with a 27" Direct View Sony TV which has Component In and no HD capability. It can't even handle 480p. However, if it has a great de-interlacer, comparable to what Faroudja offers, that could help out compared to lesser priced players that have terrible de-interlacing. Lastly, its not a bad idea to have extra capabilites for a future HD display.

I got an NC85 (Silver) for a decent price at Ultimate Electronics. I'm happy enough with it that I just sold my beloved Panny S97 and also a Sony NC80V changer. I would buy an NS75 as well if it had a different remote code from the NC85 as its handy having both a single-DVD player and a 5-DVD-changer.
Edit: What I mean is that because the NS75 (single) and NC85 (changer) have the same remote codes they will both respond to the remote control. Same if you try to supplement a NC80V (component) changer with a NS75 HDMI single-player, etc.
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I bought a 85H because my old Sony changer died after three years. The 85H had a good price, and did what I wanted it to do, and then some. I connected it with HDMI on a lark, and was impressed with the results. It's a good player, and I'm glad I spent $150 on it.

It's not Hi-Def, but I can wait for that.

I would buy an NC75 also if it had a different remote code from the NC85.
You meant NS75h right and NS85h right??
What does remote code mean?
are you knocking the ns75h?? sorry im dvd player illiterate

You meant NS75h right and NS85h right??
What does remote code mean?
are you knocking the ns75h?? sorry im dvd player illiterate

I am sure he meant those models. The remote codes meaning the signals each remote sends out. The same remote codes/signals are used on both players. If you had both players in teh same room you would be controlling both of them at the same time.

You meant NS75h right and NS85h right??
What does remote code mean?
are you knocking the ns75h??No, I'm NOT knocking the NS75H (though I did mistype as NC75). I updated my original post to clarify. See also HTNitwit's explanation.
sorry im dvd player illiterateReally? ;)

Is there a way to hack the ns75h to be region free?

Is there a way to hack the ns75h to be region free?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=671131

How are you guys finding these Open Box? It just came out...
Likely returns. Took it home & then found out that it only upconverts via HDMI - otherwise it's pretty much the same as $65 progressive version.

I got to say that I am really liking the NS75H. I had read up on it, here in this thread. And with a brand new Pioneer Elite 1130HD that I had on order, I wanted a decent upscaling DVD player that did not have macroblocking issues that could rear it's ugly head on a plasma. I am very pleased with the performance of this player. The picture is great. I have watched a few movies so far and am impressed with what I seeing. I have a Denon DVD-3910 for my dedicated theater but I didn't want to drop that kind of money for a room I was not really going to be watching movies all that often. This player fit the role perfectly. Great price and great picture!

i just bought this player but didnt recieve it yet
i do have 1 general question is it ok to stack a center speaker on top of this unit will it interfer
with playing dvds?
also im hooking it up via hdmi cable for the first time what im unclear on is,i think the cable carries audio as well as video and it going to my tv so do i connect a optical cable from my tv's output to my reciever to get 5.1 sound?
thanks for any info you guys can give me
also i dont know if it makes a differance but i have a sony kdp51ws655Putting anything on top of the NS75H is a very bad idea. The case is not that strong. You shouldn't put anything underneath it either (except a shelf) because any added heat will eventually kill the laser sensor and may also give you terrible video (because of electrical interference and heat). DVD players are sensitive electronics and this player is only 1 5/8" thick so it can't support much weight.

Correct Model numbers -- The single disc pllayer is the DVP-NS75H (S = single) and the 5-disc changer is DVP-NC85H (C = changer).

Lnd Svyr -- Sorry. That's not the way you came across, however (you sounded like you were bashing the NS75H). I'm not sure the HD-DVD is going to be the winner of the Hi-Def wars (Blu-Ray has a lot of advantages), but that's another Forum and threads, and I don't really think a winner can be picked for at least another year or two (which is why I bought my NS75H).

people dont waist your money ! the next gen movie format is right around the corner (its either gonna be blu-ray or hddvd). I feel its pointless to get a hd upconversion player sinply because the source of the video is only 480p. Guys just wait for true high def movies where the source starts at 720p~1080p. I just got a Sony DVP-NS75H, reviewed it, and i'm bringing it back tomorrow. I notice very very little if any difference between it and my samsung dvd-r120 dvr. I hooked the Sony DVP-NS75H to my tv via a 6ft ar hdmi cable, and my samsung to my tv via comp. The difference in video quality is really really not worth the extra $130 since i already have a very good player (samsung dvd-r120). I'm just gonna pack my hdmi cable away until the ps3 comes out......

i just bought this player but didnt recieve it yet
i do have 1 general question is it ok to stack a center speaker on top of this unit will it interfer with playing dvds?

Just a guess, but the vibrations from the speaker can't be good for a DVD player. I wouldn't put a speaker on top of any DVD player.

people dont waist your money ! the next gen movie format is right around the corner (its either gonna be blu-ray or hddvd). I feel its pointless to get a hd upconversion player sinply because the source of the video is only 480p. Guys just wait for true high def movies where the source starts at 720p~1080p. I just got a Sony DVP-NS75H, reviewed it, and i'm bringing it back tomorrow. I notice very very little if any difference between it and my samsung dvd-r120 dvr. I hooked the Sony DVP-NS75H to my tv via a 6ft ar hdmi cable, and my samsung to my tv via comp. The difference in video quality is really really not worth the extra $130 since i already have a very good player (samsung dvd-r120). I'm just gonna pack my hdmi cable away until the ps3 comes out......

I note (based on your post to another thread) that you are feeding the Sony into a Westinghouse LTV-27w7 HD. It may well be that on a screen of that size, with the resolution of the Westinghouse that you are not seeing the full benefits of the Sony player. I suggest you try a larger screen or better resolving monitor before making a determination.

LIY

people dont waist your money ! the next gen movie format is right around the corner (its either gonna be blu-ray or hddvd). I feel its pointless to get a hd upconversion player sinply because the source of the video is only 480p. Guys just wait for true high def movies where the source starts at 720p~1080p. I just got a Sony DVP-NS75H, reviewed it, and i'm bringing it back tomorrow. I notice very very little if any difference between it and my samsung dvd-r120 dvr. I hooked the Sony DVP-NS75H to my tv via a 6ft ar hdmi cable, and my samsung to my tv via comp. The difference in video quality is really really not worth the extra $130 since i already have a very good player (samsung dvd-r120). I'm just gonna pack my hdmi cable away until the ps3 comes out......


Why are you trying to compare players that are 4 & 8x more expensive than the Sony? I'm no expert, but the NS75 is NOT meant to be a "giant killer" nor does it claim to rival the Toshiba HD-A1 or any other 'true' HD DVD players. I personally feel that it serves its purpose very well in my HT, and that is to produce a clean, clear, and accurate presentation of DVD's.

Are you guys using RGB or YCbCr?

I needed another DVD player. $65 or $130, it's not much difference really. A tank of fuel. And, I wanted to try upconversion. Is it worth double a progressive player? No. Not if $65 is critical. However, I would not go to the trouble to take it back. It is a good player and does the job--it is not HD.

Are you guys using RGB or YCbCr?
YCbCr is the default, right? I'm using the default setting for HDMI.

If I recall correctly, I think the manual said to use RGB for HDMI

Are you guys using RGB or YCbCr?

If you are running HDMI>HDMI then you should set it to YCbCr but if you are running HDMI>DVI then you have no option, the player will default to RGB. It will still give you the option to select what you want but all you'll get is RGB.

Is HDMI hot pluggable????? In other words, wil it damage the cable if i repeatedly plug and unplug it while the dvd player or tv or cable box is on????

Why are you trying to compare players that are 4 & 8x more expensive than the Sony? I'm no expert, but the NS75 is NOT meant to be a "giant killer" nor does it claim to rival the Toshiba HD-A1 or any other 'true' HD DVD players. I personally feel that it serves its purpose very well in my HT, and that is to produce a clean, clear, and accurate presentation of DVD's.


the samsung dvd-r120 is around the same price at the sony ns75 if not less, i got it a lil while ago to replace my vcr, i wanted a dvr. Dont get me wrong but the sony plays very whell, I do notice a little difference between that and my sam dvd-r120, but I feel its just not worth the extra 130 for another box since gas prices are going up, the ns75 is good but i'll just wait for tru high def movies

The NS75h is a great player for the money! I bought an HDMI cable for under 6 bucks shipped from Monoprice and was so much better than my 3 year old JVC prog SB500bk. I think it's A WASTE OF MONEY to shell out $500 plus right when HD/Blue comes out as there will be very little real HD/Blue DVD's out. I'd wait at least a year from when it's ACTUALLY availible at your big box stores...and that there for than 50 movie titles in true HD/Blue format. I'm pretty sure after a year or so there will be HD/Blue DVD players for under 300 bucks made from OPPO or someone else. In the mean time I'll use the ns75h for years to come till (realistically) I buy a PS3 in 2-3 years.

cheers

Putting anything on top of the NS75H is a very bad idea. The case is not that strong. You shouldn't put anything underneath it either (except a shelf) because any added heat will eventually kill the laser sensor and may also give you terrible video (because of electrical interference and heat). DVD players are sensitive electronics and this player is only 1 5/8" thick so it can't support much weight.


Hmm...I have my NS75H on top of my HTIB DVD player/receiver, which is pretty sturdy and the Sony player is really light. But now you are making me think about the heat from the receiver damaging the Sony player. Hmmm...if only I had another shelf.....

Hmm...I have my NS75H on top of my HTIB DVD player/receiver, which is pretty sturdy and the Sony player is really light. But now you are making me think about the heat from the receiver damaging the Sony player. Hmmm...if only I had another shelf.....

I have my NS75H on top of my Motorola DVR

cant you put a thin cloth betwen the dvp-ns75h and dvr. that is what I did.

My sons XBox is sitting on top of my NS-75H with no apparent ill effects.

I guess I'm not as careful but I don't worry too much having my dvd recorder and my PS2 above the NS75H. I figure as long as the weight above the player is AT the corners and not pushing in the middle it's fine for most components , that's why I don't have the PS2 directly above the player. As far as heat goes .... it's best to give your receiver/amp it's own self with plenty of air flow to not only protect it but to protect your other components. I've had apple and pc laptops with DVD drives with HOT G4 or P4 processors sitting next to them for YEARS and never had problems yet:) So although the NS75H is thin ... it's not that thin in the realm of electronics. But if you have space, then space them out.

Cheers

Hmm...I have my NS75H on top of my HTIB DVD player/receiver, which is pretty sturdy and the Sony player is really light. But now you are making me think about the heat from the receiver damaging the Sony player. Hmmm...if only I had another shelf.....


That's why I searched far and wide for an entertainment center that would hold 6 components on their own shelves. To many hold just 4 or even just 2! Sure, you could just stack them, but both my receiver and DVR run so hot, I wouldn't put anything on top of them. And both are so heavy, I wouldn't stack them on anything either.

Still, if you have no other option, don't put the DVD player directly on anything that runs hot. In the old days, I just got two pieces of wood, maybe 1.5" wide, 1" tall, 18" long and placed them on my receiver (front to back on each side), then put the feet of the DVD player on the wood. That gave at least some space for air to flow between the receiver and the DVD player. Putting a small fan in the back to help blow some air around there, might help too. Heat really is the enemy of electronics.

scherer326 -- A cloth is a bad idea. The NS75H (or any other electronics) should not be placed on anything soft. The manual specifically says NO. A piece of wood would be much better. The top and bottom of the NS75H is how the unit gets rid of the heat generated inside (heat radiation from the panels).

Tigershark -- You're correct. There have been at least several AVS members that had failures of their DVD players as the result of putting them on STBs (especially cable ones). BTW, my receiver manual says that it needs more than 18" of free space above it for proper ventillation and should never be placed on top of another electronics box.

scherer326 -- A cloth is a bad idea. The NS75H (or any other electronics) should not be placed on anything soft. The manual specifically says NO. A piece of wood would be much better. The top and bottom of the NS75H is how the unit gets rid of the heat generated inside (heat radiation from the panels).

Tigershark -- You're correct. There have been at least several AVS members that had failures of their DVD players as the result of putting them on STBs (especially cable ones). BTW, my receiver manual says that it needs more than 18" of free space above it for proper ventillation and should never be placed on top of another electronics box.


18" is a lot. I doubt any entertainment center has that level of clearance above an already tall component. I have about 4" of space above my 7" tall receiver to the next shelf - which is the most clearance that most people will have in a traditional set-up. Still, more is definitely better, and a fan is even better (although the noise could be distracting).

I have my NS75H on top of my Motorola DVR

Same here. So far so good.

cheezzzz

How is this player compared to the new Panasonic S52S? Does anyone have both and done a comparison?

Quick question about the audio on this DVD player.
Ok i have the new samsung lcd 46" display(ln-s4692d). I will be using HDMI for my connection from the player to the tv. i will use the tv's speakers.

Now here is my question :

Shoudl i set this to output dolby digital and dts or not???? in the manual it says if the audio equipment you use doesnt have a dts or dolby digital decoder, then set it to off. How do i know if my tv has a dolby digital or dts decoder.

Here is the link to the specs of my tv if anybody can help me
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS4692DXXAA.asp

you can look it up in manual or google search it for your tv ...you can turn the dts on on dvd player.. it does not matter...the sound you get is determined by the soundtrack you pick on dvd....assuming the disc has a dts soundtrack..not all do

ok all my recorded dvds have been recorded in dolby digital 2.0, now is mytv capable of that???? and if it isnt and i set the player to output dolby digital, what happens?

the manual ofthe player said something about a squeeking noise when your tv cant accept dts and you set thw player to dts.

this is comparable to pro logic...setting the digital outputs to on for dd and dts will not affect the sound carried through the hdmi cable.....it will carry the 2 channel encoded sound only..you can enhance sound with dvd menu..or if your tv has enhanced sound menus....but all you will get is 2 channel through the hdmi...if your tv cannot accept dts..and you pick a dts soundtrack on a dvd to play..you will get no sound from your tv.....setting the digital outs to on..is mainly for the coax and optical out to your receiver in order for it to play back soundtracks that are dd..or dts

I currently use a Bravo D1 hooked up to a Hitachi HDP J52 pj and found out that some of the local Sonystores have a couple in stock - they had not as yet even put one on display -we sure lag behind the U.S. having to wait while those of you south of the border are able to purchase these things earlier and more readily. As much as I like the Bravo's pq it is still less than reliable despite some modifications - especially annoying is the jerkiness to images in motion that I experience. I'd really like to purchase the Toshiba HD A1 but we all know that if anything the prices will drop eventually so what I am wondering is whether the Sony player is a good stand in unit until High Definition works out one way or the other regarding the two formats and the availablility of titles. Having bought one overpriced Monster HDMI/DVI adapter I should just by another since my 15' cable is DVI and I doubt I'll find a decent HDMI cable for 50.00 cdn. Eventually I imagine a HDMI cable would be the best bet though.

Brought one home and after setting it up - I am using Cinema 1 and the 1080i ouput and the picture is very close to the Bravo - which has been noted for having the ability to produce an excellent image. I may try 720p again later just to play around with it but I think this is one great player so far - answers my previous question regarding whether it is a good stand in player, no use spending more than you need to. Also, I agree with those noting an improvement on the audio - definitely more refined than the Bravo - seems more open with an increase in detail. I find it easier to follow dialogue. If there is some way to make it region free that would be great too, something the Bravo is very good at. I picked up a basic 12 ft. HDMI cable from Radio Shack ( The Source up here ) and it seems to work fine.

The only complaint I have so far is that the audio & video timing are off for me. I was playing with the AV Sync options, but then I read in the manual that this doesn't work if you are using Digital Out (that sucks). It is definitely noticeable to me. I guess I will have to try to fix it on the receiver side.

How is this player compared to the new Panasonic S52S? Does anyone have both and done a comparison?
Actually today I bought both the Sony and the Panny S52. I have taken pictures of both and will post them probably sometime tomorrow. So far, I have only watched about 2.5 hours of DVDs on the S52. So far, I really like it. Good picture quality (at least better than my older Panny S35), good sound, and only $99. I'm planning to hook up the Sony tomorrow and compare the results.

Hmm...I have my NS75H on top of my HTIB DVD player/receiver, which is pretty sturdy and the Sony player is really light. But now you are making me think about the heat from the receiver damaging the Sony player. Hmmm...if only I had another shelf.....


We bought a denon 1920 (last night) and since we don't have the right stand yet, we put it on top of a new Pioneer vsx 816 - played 30 min. of movie and 2 hours later the player shot off. Unplug, turn on, repeat...

I was going to return it but this am I removed it and plugged it in alone away from the receiver. Works. I guess some players are more sensetive.

The only complaint I have so far is that the audio & video timing are off for me. I was playing with the AV Sync options, but then I read in the manual that this doesn't work if you are using Digital Out (that sucks). It is definitely noticeable to me. I guess I will have to try to fix it on the receiver side.I have NC85. Seems like audio synch mismatch occurs after I go into the display menus to tinker with sttings while DVD is playing. Pressing Stop once then Play to resume seems to fix it.

WOW, Just bought this player and an Acoustic Research HDMI cable for my Sony 30HS420 CRT and i am in love with it. My DVD's look better then my Comcast HDTV even. And audio is also amazing i can't beleave how bad my old Pioneer progressive scan player was, This thing makes it look like a vcr. I was wondering though, How do you make the screensaver come on? Cause when i listen to music cds it doesn't come on even though i have the screensaver turned on in the menu.

nick2003 -- I think you have to store a "screensaver" picture in the player's memory -- it should be in the manual. When you play music, you really shouldn't have your display on anyway (it may disable the video output when playing music CDs).

Hey nick what resolution are you upconverting this player to output?

anyone in the No Va area knows where to get the 75 from?

Thanks

anyone in the No Va area knows where to get the 75 from?

Thanks

Got my NS75H from Best Buy. Specifically the one is Sterling, but I am sure they are in every store.

anyone in the No Va area knows where to get the 75 from?

Thanks

I believe Sears carries this in store as well.

Stupid question. Does this, and the NC85H version, only upconvert over HDMI and not component? And is there a reason for it if so?

Stupid question. Does this, and the NC85H version, only upconvert over HDMI and not component? And is there a reason for it if so?

Yes, upconversion only over HDMI (for copy protection).

Yes, upconversion only over HDMI (for copy protection).

Figured it was the good old copy protection BS. I swear they must have a contract with cable(ie monster) companies for that pile of crap. I'll wait till the hdmi cable I ordered comes to really let it go then.

CT_Wiebe: Thanks, Yeah your right, I'll leave the display off while playing music from now on.
mikej3131: Outputing to 1920x1080i with YCbCr/RGB set to RGB

Best Buy had these players in there sunday ad so every Best Buy should have them in stock, My Best Buy was loaded.

Took a screenshot earlier and thought it might be useful to post it here for anyone considering this player. Keep in mind my camra isn't the best and no screenshot can show the full quality.

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/3852/kingkongupconvert2bh.jpg

Thanks for the screenshot, I do see some fine detail.

Does anyone have a 60" or bigger 1080 resolution DLP and can describe the improvement they see in newer movies like LOTR, Narnia, King Kong, Star Wars, ect. .?

I am upgrading for a 3 yr. old Panny HDTV to a Toshiba 62mx195. I finally get my TV and this DVD player in tommorow. I can't wait to see it! I just want to hear how much of a visual improvement you guys are seeing on the higher end Tvs.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphoto.php/photo/20692/cat/500/ppuser/7593082

This definately brings out the fine detail of every movie. I watched the High Def version of Phantom of the Opera on a 3 chip DLP projector 150 inch screen. On my DLP 50 inch screen using the DVPNS75H, the movie looked just as crisp and detailed.

I've got the NS75H hooked up to my Toshiba 34HFX85 and am having some unexpected issues....any help would be appreciated in the 'can someone help a noob' thread (would post a link but I haven't reached the mandatory minimum post count)

Thanks all!

I just purchased this new Sony model. I want to make sure I am taking advantage of its features. My tv is a Sony crt KD-30XS955 wide screen. Do I use the settings on the tv to adjust the picture quality or the DVD, or both. Right now I have my tv set to CineMotion over progressive. The only setting I changed on the DVD player is to Cinema 1 per the sony manual. I am using a HDMI connection. Is there any thing else to do?

dbalone - Use the settings on your TV to adjust the picture quality.

Sheesh, I just went to Circuit City to purchase one, and they are backordered at every store in the region!

Just got this player. The audio ( Digital Coax) and video (1080i via HDMI) are equal to my Denon 2900 feeding an interlaced signal to My Fujitsu P50(40) with the famous AVM2 processor. I do have one question. Why is the Progressive light on when playing 1080i via HDMI? Pushing the progressive button (light) does nothing I guess in HDMI. How would you know if you are in Progressive auto or video mode? Is this normal? Thanks.

Jim

I bought this player cause I'm 61 and getting lazy. Don't have to get as often to change discs. Ha!

Hey everyone,

Im new here so maybe thats why im asking this, but im confused....if the Oppo player is definitively "the best" and ive seen the panasonic s77 considered to be almost as good as the Oppo, then why is there so much anticipation or attention given to this sony model?

also, if youd humor me, what do you think of the samsung 860?

Hey everyone,

Im new here so maybe thats why im asking this, but im confused....if the Oppo player is definitively "the best" and ive seen the panasonic s77 considered to be almost as good as the Oppo, then why is there so much anticipation or attention given to this sony model?

also, if youd humor me, what do you think of the samsung 860?

I have tested both the newest Oppo next to this Sony, and the image quality is about the same through HDMI as viewed on a 50 inch DLP from samsung.

by pushing the progressive button on the front of player..you can change the mode ..but only through the components..it displays on your tv screen....if you are using an hdmi hookup.....the blue light comes on ..and if set to auto in custom menu..it will send out the best picture to your tv...or you can go to custom set up menu and change auto to 1080i, 720p, or 480p manually

Hey everyone,

Im new here so maybe thats why im asking this, but im confused....if the Oppo player is definitively "the best" and ive seen the panasonic s77 considered to be almost as good as the Oppo, then why is there so much anticipation or attention given to this sony model?

also, if youd humor me, what do you think of the samsung 860?

Because if you read the oppo thread, its full of 10000 bugs/issues.

Because if you read the oppo thread, its full of 10000 bugs/issues.....and the Sony is 130 bucks. :D

hey genep,

But it doesnt let you send 480i through hdmi. Thats why you can not turn the progressive button off using hdmi. the video will always be deinterlaced by the player when using hdmi

Just got the NC85 tonight, hooked it up via HDMI to a Mits55 RPCRT with digital optical to the A/V receiver and it looks great.

hey genep,

But it doesnt let you send 480i through hdmi. Thats why you can not turn the progressive button off using hdmi. the video will always be deinterlaced by the player when using hdmi

Not so, it will let you send 1080i over HDMI and that is interlaced.

by pushing the progressive button on the front of player..you can change the mode ..but only through the components..it displays on your tv screen....if you are using an hdmi hookup.....the blue light comes on ..and if set to auto in custom menu..it will send out the best picture to your tv...or you can go to custom set up menu and change auto to 1080i, 720p, or 480p manually


Thus in HDMI, the orange Progressive light is always on? Also. if HDMI is set to auto, how do you know whether it is sending 720p or 1080i? Thanks.

Jim

if HDMI is set to auto, how do you know whether it is sending 720p or 1080i? Thanks.
"Info" button on the TV?

Blue light = digital sync w/ display

Orange light is always on w/ HDMI because the lowest it will send is 480p = it's doing some scaling.

It's really hard to say because it depends on how Sony decided to design their processing chip(s). Since the 480i on the DVDs are already digital, they could just upscale to 1080i without de-interlacing. With a lot of players, you’re right though, they would deinterlace to 480p and then scale to 1080p and re-interlace to 1080i, since that's cheaper (same scaling path for both 720p and 1080p, with different endpoints).

it deinterlaces then scales to 1080p then interlaces into 1080i.

Thats why when you go to press the progressive button, there is no "off" option using hdmi, its only "video" or "film"

for HDMI which should you leave it to (regarding the progressive button)
"Video" or "Auto" ?

auto is for film based sources(24fps). Video is for televisio shows, sports sources etc.(30 to 60 fps)

I use the dvd player 90% of the time for watching tvs. I assume that I should just leave it on auto and forget about it. Right?

That's what I do.

auto is for film based sources(24fps). Video is for televisio shows, sports sources etc.(30 to 60 fps)

Does that mean that if I'm watching DVDs of TV shows, I should switch it to Video?

if the dvd consists of 30 to 60 fps material

Everyone, hear this:

CircuitCity has the NS75H for $115 right now.

I just bought mine from bestbuy with a price match.... My samsung 42" DLP comes tomorrow morning, and my HDMI cable is here, so tomorrow will be the big day.

Everyone, hear this:

CircuitCity has the NS75H for $115 right now.

I just bought mine from bestbuy with a price match.... My samsung 42" DLP comes tomorrow morning, and my HDMI cable is here, so tomorrow will be the big day.
I got mine shipped for a dollar less at crutchfield when it first came out.

What would happen if you tried to play one of the new HD dvd? Would it play it? And if it does, what kind of pq.

What would happen if you tried to play one of the new HD dvd? Would it play it? And if it does, what kind of pq.

No you need a Toshiba HD-DVD player to play HD-DVD's its a diffrent format.

I got mine shipped for a dollar less at crutchfield when it first came out.


Around here no one has it except for Sears - Crutchfield says: Expected - 5.31.2006. for $129,99

How did you get it? It isn't available from them yet.

Circuit City has it also

Circuit City has it also


not around the Dc area.

I got my H85 at Fry's in Duluth, GA a couple weeks ago. I don't think they had the H75, but they had at least a dozen or so H85's on the shelf.

Everyone, hear this:

CircuitCity has the NS75H for $115 right now.

I just bought mine from bestbuy with a price match.... My samsung 42" DLP comes tomorrow morning, and my HDMI cable is here, so tomorrow will be the big day.

Thanks i just took my receipt up to Best Buy and got some money back for the pricematch :D

Around here no one has it except for Sears - Crutchfield says: Expected - 5.31.2006. for $129,99

How did you get it? It isn't available from them yet.
I used a coupon code. I'm not sure if the code still works, but I don't have it right now and I don't have a mouse, so I won't go looking for it at the moment. If you're a SDer, then you can just find it in the coupons forum by doing a simple search.

And yes, they do have it. I have no idea why the web site says it's not available, but I and other people here bought it from crutchfield, though I bought it at the lowest available price when it first came out.

I got my 85H from Crutchfield. It was out of stock in I ordered it, but I only had to wait a few days. They must be going in and out of stock if they show an in-stock date of 5/31. But they definitely have had it before.

Thanks i just took my receipt up to Best Buy and got some money back for the pricematch :D
Nice :)

I was reading about component output and it says it can produce as high output (up to 1080p) as HDMI and DVI... is that true? If so, then the PQ should be the same using the same devices right?

Then its really only the quality of your display and player that matter, not necessarily your connection medium/cables?

Like lets say for instance with my 42" samsung dlp and the ns75, im using hdmi...if i used component then the PQ would be the same as the hdmi PQ. Then I would only see a difference if i used an inferior/cheaper dvd player, lets say a run of the mill progressive scan player from last year that didnt have upscaling right?

Just got mine a few days ago (along with my 62" 1080p DLP) and I must say, wow. . I have played many of the same DVDs as others: Monsters Inc, LOTR, Star Wars, Finding Nemo. . And I must say that the movie that impressed me the most was, Monsters Inc. If you haven't gotten this in yet. Let MI be the first DVD you play. It will floor you. Most of the movies look great, deffinatly not "HD" but very very close (I should know, I've been watching Discovery HD and HDnet like a madman since I got my new TV). If this is standard DVD with upscaling. I can deffinatly wait until HDdvd is in the $200 pricerange. I'm in no hurry with how good these movies are looking. I can see details in Gandalfs face and when they do face closeups in LOTR that look almost like HD. Very detailed, you can just see the detail in the skin and pores. It's crazy.

The only thing is, I vaguely remember my old sony 5-disc changer had a mode in it or something, that stretched the image on "extreme" widescreen movies where it seemed to increase the size image just a tad vertically (IE not stretching it to loose any image on the sides). . . This dvd player doesn't seem to have that. And it makes me wish it did because I like to get the most use out of my 62" as I can.

yes the hd quality over components is pretty damn good..I was doing that b4 i picked up and hdmi cable for my hd cable tv box...now I am doing it again because i have the ns75h hooked to my hdmi input....however..this player does not deliver the upscale over the components...the video quality is still excellent over the components...but not as good as over the hdmi because of the upconversion...so don't be misled into thinking this player does upconversion over the components

I understand. Gene, since you've tried both component and HDMI on the Sony, is there a major difference in PQ between the two? Sharper clarity or a more smooth image? Im just curious as to how effective the upconversion is. Thanks

I understand. Gene, since you've tried both component and HDMI on the Sony, is there a major difference in PQ between the two? Sharper clarity or a more smooth image? Im just curious as to how effective the upconversion is. Thanks

The PQ over component vs. HDMI will be an indication of how good your display's scaler is vs. the upconversion circuitry in the Sony. Unless Gene is using the same display as you, his component vs. HDMI results won't necessarily correlate to what your experience may be.

/steve

No more shift issues yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Also i do see a diffrence in the picture over the 70. I think the 75 is smoother especially on 1080i the 70 seemed to add edge enhancemtn. The sound seems crisper also. All in all i am very happy with the 75. My friend has a oppo with the newest firmware and we tried them both on my tv "SXRD". The 75h blew it away we both agreed....

I have:

(1) Sony DVP-NS75H DVD player
(2) Sony KD-27FS170 27" 4:3 Direct View
(3) Component Cable
(4) 480i (no Progressive Mode on TV)
(5) 16:9 Enhanced Mode capability via Component Input

Here is the problem.

I can not make my Sony TV permanently remember the 16:9 anamorphic mode on Component Input Video 3. I have to go into the TV menu every time I want to watch a DVD and set it to 16:9 enhanced mode ON.

When 16:9 is ON for both TV and DVD player, I get a properly scaled picture in the correct AR every time. I also get the full 480 scan lines, in a rectangle with black bars above and below. Also, it looks much better than non using 16:9 enhanced mode!

SIMPLE QUESTION:

Is the DVP-NS75H converting Letterboxed DVDs into Anamorphic mode before sending the video to the TV set?

It sure appears that way to me. Also, watching a LB DVD with 16:9 ON (both TV and DVD Player) looks much better than watching a LB DVD with 16:9 OFF (both TV and DVD Player).

everyone's setup is different..including how you calibrate your tv settings.....I can tell you this much..that I was using this dvd player through the components first.....I picked it up because of the dual digital outputs and the new technology to play homemade dvds better..including dl's..which i make alot of.....and I thought the video quality was just great...it was after looking at this thread that I decided to hook up the hdmi to my tv.....I was never a big fan of upconversion players...i have a samsungdvd-hd931 player with faroudja dcdi chip......and it never really enhanced the video liked i hoped..it does a very good job with my infocus 4805 when upscaling..but not on any of my tv's....but this player's up scaling is terrific on my panasonic 42px50u plasma tv..which is highly rated and has super video quality itself........
that being said...if I never hooked it up through the hdmi.....I would be very happy watching it through the components..it is that good a dvd player in my opinion

I have:

(1) Sony DVP-NS75H DVD player
(2) Sony KD-27FS170 27" 4:3 Direct View
(3) Component Cable
(4) 480i (no Progressive Mode on TV)
(5) 16:9 Enhanced Mode capability via Component Input

Here is the problem.

I can not make my Sony TV permanently remember the 16:9 anamorphic mode on Component Input Video 3. I have to go into the TV menu every time I want to watch a DVD and set it to 16:9 enhanced mode ON.

When 16:9 is ON for both TV and DVD player, I get a properly scaled picture in the correct AR every time. I also get the full 480 scan lines, in a rectangle with black bars above and below. Also, it looks much better than non using 16:9 enhanced mode!

SIMPLE QUESTION:

Is the DVP-NS75H converting Letterboxed DVDs into Anamorphic mode before sending the video to the TV set?

It sure appears that way to me. Also, watching a LB DVD with 16:9 ON (both TV and DVD Player) looks much better than watching a LB DVD with 16:9 OFF (both TV and DVD Player).

Turn off the progressive mode on the dvd player by pushing the button on the front.....it will tell you on the screen it is off and in the interlaced mode..and the orange light should be off on player...if it is in the progressive mode and you tv is non progressive..I doubt you will see any picture since it will be non compatable..usually just distorted picture...in the interlaced mode the dvd player does not produce an anormorphic picture of 480p..just 480i..like a non progressive scan dvd player

not sure why your tv does not remember the enhanced mode..check you manual if you have it.......but I say watch what it the way you think looks best to you...that's what matters the most

ok ran into a very weird problem and maybe you guys can help me...have been watching hours and hours on the sony 75 NO PROBLEMS but last might I watched brand new out of box Triple X (VAn Diesel) and it would several times act like it went into slow motion type of fast forward (hard to explain) but it didn't really skip a scene it just began to fast forward that scene slowly. AT first I thought maybe a heat issue- I felt it and it was very cool to touch (in open cabinet). It did it at least 8 times during the movie--any thoughts??

Anyone else noticing an up and down shift on your tv when selecting between 480p 720p or 1080i? I'm running HDMI into my Samsung DLP. Lets say when in 480p mode I'm seeing more picture at the bottom. When I select 720p some of that picture at the bottom disapears. Whats causing this? And how do I know what mode is offering the correct picture? Thanks

Turn off the progressive mode on the dvd player by pushing the button on the front.....it will tell you on the screen it is off and in the interlaced mode..and the orange light should be off on player...if it is in the progressive mode and you tv is non progressive..I doubt you will see any picture since it will be non compatable..usually just distorted picture...in the interlaced mode the dvd player does not produce an anormorphic picture of 480p..just 480i..like a non progressive scan dvd player

not sure why your tv does not remember the enhanced mode..check you manual if you have it.......but I say watch what it the way you think looks best to you...that's what matters the most

If you have this player hooked up via HDMI to a 720p projector...the progressive button should be ON and on AUTO? correct?

anytime you use the hdmi output..the progessive light is on as well as the blue hdmi light...you cannot change the progressive mode with front button when using the hdmi...it automatically sends out the best quality picture it senses for the end equipment......in your case a 720p projector should receive a 720p picture over the hdmi automatically..but i would check your display to see if you are getting the 720p picture..my infocus 4805 uses a dvi input.....but no matter what i select..auto, 1080i, 720p, in the custom set up mode........the dvd player will only pass a 480p picture over the hdmi using a dvi to hdmi adaptor....it is important to remember that the progressive mode button only works when using the component cables to your tv or display..the only way to change the pq via the hdmi output is done by going to the custom setup menu...

ok ran into a very weird problem and maybe you guys can help me...have been watching hours and hours on the sony 75 NO PROBLEMS but last might I watched brand new out of box Triple X (VAn Diesel) and it would several times act like it went into slow motion type of fast forward (hard to explain) but it didn't really skip a scene it just began to fast forward that scene slowly. AT first I thought maybe a heat issue- I felt it and it was very cool to touch (in open cabinet). It did it at least 8 times during the movie--any thoughts??

try using the components to tv and see if this problem continues..if not then you may have a bad hdmi cable...I went crazy trying everything with the video problems i was having via the hdmi output ....the dvds always played perfect via the components....never thought the brand new cable could be the problem....but when i changed the cable..everything worked perfect

you cannot change the progressive mode with front button when using the hdm yes you can change it from auto to video

..my infocus 4805 uses a dvi input.....but no matter what i select..auto, 1080i, 720p, in the custom set up mode........the dvd player will only pass a 480p picture over the hdmi using a dvi to hdmi adaptor....

Something is wrong with your setup then, My Sharp PJ is DVI and I can select and run 480P, 720P and 1080i over HDMI. My cable has HDMI on one end and DVI on the other. The 4805 has a true DVI input, correct? If so, you should be able to achieve any of those three resolutions over HDMI.

Anyone else noticing an up and down shift on your tv when selecting between 480p 720p or 1080i? I'm running HDMI into my Samsung DLP. Lets say when in 480p mode I'm seeing more picture at the bottom. When I select 720p some of that picture at the bottom disapears. Whats causing this? And how do I know what mode is offering the correct picture? Thanks

So it still has shift issue....hmmm.

So it still has shift issue....hmmm.

No it doesn't. If you read this thread from the beginning you'll notice that there is a sporadic number of "shift" issues reported which are probably due to display/DVD compatibility. The bulk of the messages state that the shift is gone. I had the NS70H and it had the shift, I have the NS75H and it doesn't. My display is the same.

How does the picture quality of the NS75H compare to the Panasonic S97 or S77? How does the sound compare?

Something is wrong with your setup then, My Sharp PJ is DVI and I can select and run 480P, 720P and 1080i over HDMI. My cable has HDMI on one end and DVI on the other. The 4805 has a true DVI input, correct? If so, you should be able to achieve any of those three resolutions over HDMI.

the infocus uses a pc adapter type cable with an hdmi plug on one end.....this causes the issue of only passing the 480p..my friend has same problem with his infocus 4805 and same dvd player..so i just use the components to the projector or my samsung with dvi out upconversion..which the projector responds to when upconverting......it's not a big deal...since I love the picture from the hdmi to my panny plasma

auto is for film based sources(24fps). Video is for televisio shows, sports sources etc.(30 to 60 fps)

Auto will not automatically adjust for TV shows/sports sources? Seems like a pain to have to switch to 'video' and back to 'auto' for movies.

yes you can change it from auto to video

has no effect on the picture since the hdmi picture is controlled via the custom setup you choose...it is just putting a display message on the screen..same as you would see through the components..only when you are using the components..you actually change what the player does by pushing the front button...try it for yourself....and you will see

has no effect on the picture since the hdmi picture is controlled via the custom setup you choose...it is just putting a display message on the screen..same as you would see through the components..only when you are using the components..you actually change what the player does by pushing the front button...try it for yourself....and you will see

No matter what you set in the custom setup (420p/720p/1080i) when using HDMI, the player is doing a type of deinterlacing. By pressing the progressive button on the front, you are telling the player what type of deinterlacing to do (auto or video).

anytime you use the hdmi output..the progessive light is on as well as the blue hdmi light...you cannot change the progressive mode with front button when using the hdmi...it automatically sends out the best quality picture it senses for the end equipment......in your case a 720p projector should receive a 720p picture over the hdmi automatically..but i would check your display to see if you are getting the 720p picture..my infocus 4805 uses a dvi input.....but no matter what i select..auto, 1080i, 720p, in the custom set up mode........the dvd player will only pass a 480p picture over the hdmi using a dvi to hdmi adaptor....it is important to remember that the progressive mode button only works when using the component cables to your tv or display..the only way to change the pq via the hdmi output is done by going to the custom setup menu...

OK..hmm.. so if you are hooked up via HDMI and have chosen 720p in the custom menu.. then the progessive button is irrelevant? The progessive button applies only to a component hook-up, correct?

Hey dts

No matter what you set in the custom setup (420p/720p/1080i) when using HDMI, the player is doing a type of deinterlacing. By pressing the progressive button on the front, you are telling the player what type of deinterlacing to do (auto or video).

Hey dts

No matter what you set in the custom setup (420p/720p/1080i) when using HDMI, the player is doing a type of deinterlacing. By pressing the progressive button on the front, you are telling the player what type of deinterlacing to do (auto or video).

Ok.. I am hooked up HDMI, custom set to 720p to match my FP and progressive on AUTO... does this sound optimal?

I am hooked up HDMI also, custom set to 1080 to go with my 42px60u plasma FP and progressive on AUTO. I think picture looks great.

Even thought the native resolution of my tv is 768, I think the dvd player produces a better picture set to 1080 rather than 720. Anyone agree pr disagree.

I am hooked up HDMI also, custom set to 1080 to go with my 42px60u plasma FP and progressive on AUTO. I think picture looks great.

Even thought the native resolution of my tv is 768, I think the dvd player produces a better picture set to 1080 rather than 720. Anyone agree pr disagree.

I has my FP ISFed last week and the calibrator (very experienced, yrs in the business)
suggested matching my HD DVR and DVD player output (to 720p) with my FP (720p) for optimal PQ .

dtsfanoh, but my plasma's native resolution is 768 not 720. I have both my STB and DVD player set to 1080 not 720 and I feel the picture quality looks great. Just didnt know if I should set everything to 720 instead.

dtsfanoh, but my plasma's native resolution is 768 not 720. I have both my STB and DVD player set to 1080 not 720 and I feel the picture quality looks great. Just didnt know if I should set everything to 720 instead.

My FP is 1280x768 (essentially a "720p display") as well... I am just passing along his advice. In fact, I had my HD DVR set for 1080i when he arrived . He noticed that and promptly recommended we change it to 720p.

it deinterlaces then scales to 1080p then interlaces into 1080i.

Thats why when you go to press the progressive button, there is no "off" option using hdmi, its only "video" or "film"

So you're saying Sony took the extra step to make this a cheaper player? If it will scale to 1080p why didn't they just leave it there and output it? Why take the extra step to reinterlace to 1080i?

That said, this player is taking a 480i source, deinterlacing it to 480p upscaling it to 1080P (maybe), reinterlacing that to 1080i and sending the signal to my projector which scales it to its native 576p. Whew! That doesn't even take into account any picture 'enhancement' settings that may be turned on on BOTH the DVD player and the projector.

That's a lot of digital trickery going on there. It's amazing the picture doesn't look like a bad 50's TV show. On the contrary, I'm still amazed at just how good a standard DVD can look with this player.

So you're saying Sony took the extra step to make this a cheaper player? If it will scale to 1080p why didn't they just leave it there and output it? Why take the extra step to deinterlace to 1080i?

That said, this player is taking a 480i source, deinterlacing it to 480p upscaling it to 1080P (maybe), deinterlacing that to 1080i and sending the signal to my projector which scales it to its native 576p. Whew! That doesn't even take into account any picture 'enhancement' settings that may be turned on on BOTH the DVD player and the projector.

That's a lot of digital trickery going on there. It's amazing the picture doesn't look like a bad 50's TV show. On the contrary, I'm still amazed at just how good a standard DVD can look with this player.

It makes sense to me that the few "conversion" events you put your signal through, the better....

Yesterday I was watching The Godfather (brand new out of the box) and a few times during playback, the player would stop, screen would go blank for about 2 seconds, and start back where it left off. My older progressive scan dvd player played the same dvd without a problem. Any ideas what this could be??

Yesterday I was watching The Godfather (brand new out of the box) and a few times during playback, the player would stop, screen would go blank for about 2 seconds, and start back where it left off. My older progressive scan dvd player played the same dvd without a problem. Any ideas what this could be??

This happened to me last night for the first time playing Willy Wonka at 720P via HDMI; 2 seconds of black with audio - the plasma never lost HDMI signal though.

This happened to me last night for the first time playing Willy Wonka at 720P via HDMI; 2 seconds of black with audio - the plasma never lost HDMI signal though.

Yeah I get 2 seconds of black with no audio or picture. I have it hooked up to a panny plasma th42px50u with via HDMI at 1080i.

I am hooked up HDMI also, custom set to 1080 to go with my 42px60u plasma FP and progressive on AUTO. I think picture looks great.

Even thought the native resolution of my tv is 768, I think the dvd player produces a better picture set to 1080 rather than 720. Anyone agree pr disagree.

I have a Pio 4360 with the DVR and DVD set to 1080i.
To me it produces a better PQ. I don't
understand this, since logic says it should be set to 720p.
But then and again whats logic got to do with it.

Yeah I get 2 seconds of black with no audio or picture. I have it hooked up to a panny plasma th42px50u with via HDMI at 1080i.


I had same problems with same tv..was using a generic online cable I bought...switched to a A/R hdmi cable.....no more problems....i think this player is sensitive to low quality built cables..mine was a 15 foot cable i bought on e-bay..it gave me lots of video audio dropouts....the 12 foot A/R cable was 41 bucks on buy.com...it works great

I have a Pio 4360 with the DVR and DVD set to 1080i.
To me it produces a better PQ. I don't
understand this, since logic says it should be set to 720p.
But then and again whats logic got to do with it.

Of course "better" is a highly subjective adjective. I have switched back and forth between 720p and 1080i into my Pio 1130, recalibrating with AVIA each time. I think the more dramatic, sharpest picture is produced at 1080i, but the smoother more film- like picture is produced at 720p (borne out by AVIA's sharrpness test, much less ringing and other artifacts of oversharpening at 720p)

Additionally, while I had originally set the Sony sharpness control to +1, I have ratcheted back and now use only the Pio to sharpen the pic, as necessary.

It is "...in the eye of the beholder...." ;)

LIY

I had same problems with same tv..was using a generic online cable I bought...switched to a A/R hdmi cable.....no more problems....i think this player is sensitive to low quality built cables..mine was a 15 foot cable i bought on e-bay..it gave me lots of video audio dropouts....the 12 foot A/R cable was 41 bucks on buy.com...it works great

Do you think I would get good results with an HDMI cable from monorprice?

Do you think I would get good results with an HDMI cable from monorprice?

Absolutely. I have been using the least expensive MOnoprice HDMI cables in a number of applications with very good result!

LIY

Howdy,

Thanks to all on this forum for the great info on this player. I bought the 85H (in black) a couple of weeks ago and love it but would like to buy the 75H as well when I just want to play a dvd. My question: does the 75H come in black? I have only seen it available in silver. Thanks!

Absolutely. I have been using the least expensive MOnoprice HDMI cables in a number of applications with very good result!

LIY
Thanks for your input. They have different types of HDMI wire and I'm pretty much a newbie don't know what it all means (24 awg, etc.) What kind should I get?

Thanks for your input. They have different types of HDMI wire and I'm pretty much a newbie don't know what it all means (24 awg, etc.) What kind should I get?

I got the $18 3' net jacketed HDMI from monoprice 6 months ago for my 70h and have had excellent results with it.

Howdy,

Thanks to all on this forum for the great info on this player. I bought the 85H (in black) a couple of weeks ago and love it but would like to buy the 75H as well when I just want to play a dvd. My question: does the 75H come in black? I have only seen it available in silver. Thanks!


Good question..
I've looked online and in stores and have only seen it in silver. The color is the only thing stopping me from buying this player. I find silver components to be cheap-looking and ugly.

Thanks for your input. They have different types of HDMI wire and I'm pretty much a newbie don't know what it all means (24 awg, etc.) What kind should I get?
The number refers to the guage of the wire. The lower the number the thicker the wire. If you're under 12' I would think the less expensive option would be fine. I use the $6+ monoprice HMDI w/o a problem. If I was going 12' I'd like opt for the heavier guage.

Can this player be set to skip the menus and start playing the movie immediately? Thanks.

I think this player performs best when using component video while using your HDTV's built in upscaler, If your HDTV's upscaler is good that is. I switched to component using my Sony 30HS420's CineMotion setting and it looks alot better then the first pic. Heres what it looks like now http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphoto.php/photo/20755/cat/500/ppuser/7462018

Can this player be set to skip the menus and start playing the movie immediately? Thanks.There is no "setting" to do this but you can hit the FF button to skip through most commercials, FBI anti-piracy screens, etc. and get to the main play menu on most DVDs.

I think this player performs best when using component video while using your HDTV's built in upscaler, If your HDTV's upscaler is good that is. I switched to component using my Sony 30HS420's CineMotion setting and it looks alot better then the first pic. Heres what it looks like now http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphoto.php/photo/20755/cat/500/ppuser/7462018


Anyone have any idea how good of an upscaler the panny th-42px50u has?

Hi all,

I'm considering buying this to replace the Oppo. I've got a Sammy HLR-5067W and irregardless of the calibration (it's been professionally done), the macroblocking is horrendous. Watched the new Harry Potter movie with the kids last weekend and I wanted to throw the Oppo out the window - it was that bad. Has anybody had any luck with (a) replacing the Oppo with this unit specifically on the Samsung DLP or (b) the general picture quality when this unit is matched with the Sammy HLR-5067W. Any advice would be great - thanks in advance.

Anyone have any idea how good of an upscaler the panny th-42px50u has?


I have same set..it has no upscaler..my sony kd34xbr2...has a bulit in line doubler..progressive, cimemotion, interlaced..but even that is not an upscaler...the panny plasma has cinema ,standard and vivid mode..but that is pq settings..not an upscaler

Can't say with 100% certainty but the Sony uses it's own chipset & the one in the Oppo (known for that issue)............it should be fine. I can say I've seen no signs of macroblocking (nor read any in the 30 pages of this thread).

Definately worth a shot. Same reason I passed on the Oppo - you never know if it will react well to a given display until you try it.

Is the documentation correct in that av sync doesn't work over optical and coax?

Thanks for your input. They have different types of HDMI wire and I'm pretty much a newbie don't know what it all means (24 awg, etc.) What kind should I get?
I use a 10ft 28AWG cheapie HDMI cable from Monoprice for under seven bucks. Works great.

Is the documentation correct in that av sync doesn't work over optical and coax?
I'd say the documentation is correct.
Soon after getting the 75H several weeks ago, I tried to make timing changes in the av sync feature, but my changes had no effect whatsoever, and I'm using optical audio. I believe other owners have reported the same thing.

I'd say the documentation is correct.
Soon after getting the 75H several weeks ago, I tried to make timing changes in the av sync feature, but my changes had no effect whatsoever, and I'm using optical audio. I believe other owners have reported the same thing.

Yeah, the AV sync doesn't work if you are using the optical out. It is pretty annoying.

Yeah, the AV sync doesn't work if you are using the optical out. It is pretty annoying.Actually, it (AV sync) does work with optical/coaxial out, but the results are a bit strange. If I have the DVD player set at 1080i I get a slight echo between my AVR and my TV. If I set the DVD player to 720p there is no echo. In either case, if I increase the DVD player's delay the echo increases and becomes really bad at 100ms. I would have expected the echo to decrease. Very strange! So, it may not be working as expected but changing the AV Synch delay in the DVD player does do something.

Can't say with 100% certainty but the Sony uses it's own chipset & the one in the Oppo (known for that issue)............it should be fine. I can say I've seen no signs of macroblocking (nor read any in the 30 pages of this thread).

Definately worth a shot. Same reason I passed on the Oppo - you never know if it will react well to a given display until you try it.I have not seen any MB from the new Sony player. I experienced moderate MB with a S97 that I recently sold. I also have the new Panny S52 and am finding that it seems to have a little MB but nowehere near as objectionable as the S97.

Actually, it (AV sync) does work with optical/coaxial out, but the results are a bit strange. If I have the DVD player set at 1080i I get a slight echo between my AVR and my TV. If I set the DVD player to 720p there is no echo. In either case, if I increase the DVD player's delay the echo increases and becomes really bad at 100ms. I would have expected the echo to decrease. Very strange! So, it may not be working as expected but changing the AV Synch delay in the DVD player does do something.

I suspect the echo you're hearing is the AV sync working with the TV audio, but not the optical.

I have not seen any macroblocking (MBE) with this player like I did with my S97. The 540 firmware (on the Panny) had GREATLY reduced macroblocking for me, but I did still see it from time to time. But I don't see any now on my Sony (other than what's inherent in the transfers).

I suspect the echo you're hearing is the AV sync working with the TV audio, but not the optical.

I have not seen any macroblocking (MBE) with this player like I did with my S97. The 540 firmware (on the Panny) had GREATLY reduced macroblocking for me, but I did still see it from time to time. But I don't see any now on my Sony (other than what's inherent in the transfers).

This is the main reason I was looking at this new sony. The macroblocking on the s97 is absolutely horrible. But I'm really concerned about audio sync which the s97 deals with just fine. So now I don't know what I'm going to do. My processor doesn't have an audio delay feature built in and I'm hesitant to buy yet another external box to deal with this since there is no reason sony couldn't have made the optical out work with av sync also.

I suspect the echo you're hearing is the AV sync working with the TV audio, but not the optical.How can the AV synch setting in the DVD player affect the TV audio?

I plan to run some AV synch tests with the NC85 digital output set to PCM rather than DD to see what happens.

This is the main reason I was looking at this new sony. The macroblocking on the s97 is absolutely horrible. But I'm really concerned about audio sync which the s97 deals with just fine. So now I don't know what I'm going to do. My processor doesn't have an audio delay feature built in and I'm hesitant to buy yet another external box to deal with this since there is no reason sony couldn't have made the optical out work with av sync also.Unless you really need 5.1ch analog DVD-Audio, try the new Panasonic S52. Its costs one-third what the S97 did, is not as well built as the S97, has most of the same features as the S97, has av sybch delay setting, and has little or no MB-enhance problem. Not sure yet if its Faroudja based. If it isn't you lose out on whatever benefits Faroudja-based deinterlacing/scaling provides but don't have to worry about MB-enhance.

Stumacdo,

I tested the Sony tonight against my Panny s77. I have the Samsung HLR-4667W so results should be fairly similar for you.

The Sony still displays macroblocking but nowhere near to the extent that the Panny does.
Overall, the Sony has a much better picture quality. Oddly enough, my hacked xbox upscaling to 720p can do almost as good of a job, so the Sony is going back to BB until I can purchase a HD-DVD player. Hope this helps.

Adam

How can the AV synch setting in the DVD player affect the TV audio?

I plan to run some AV synch tests with the NC85 digital output set to PCM rather than DD to see what happens.

My understanding (have not done any tests myself) is that the AV sync (delay) is applied to the 2 channel audio only (the audio that you would get through your tv speakers), not the 5.1 audio (the audio that you would get through your receiver). So if you are playing audio both through the TV speakers and through your receiver, the AV Sync setting would be delaying the audio you're hearing through your speakers, but not the audio you're hearing through the receiver.

I also bought the 85h last month, and so far I love it. Excellent picture quality and colors. The only thing I don't like too much is the build quality of the carousel, it's a bit clunky and it makes a lot of noise when it changes from one dvd to another. I guess I can't complain too much for $154.

now the only thing I need is a freaking Panasonic Plasma tv. :)

I also bought the 85h last month, and so far I love it. Excellent picture quality and colors. The only thing I don't like too much is the build quality of the carousel, it's a bit clunky and it makes a lot of noise when it changes from one dvd to another. I guess I can't complain too much for $154.

now the only thing I need is a freaking Panasonic Plasma tv. :)This is why the HS75H (in silver) is recommended over the NC85H (in black). Sony has had problems with their 5 disc carousels.

Adam,

Thanks for the heads-up. Probably going to pick one up early next week and check it out. Worst case, it's a simple return to BB. Will check it out and post back. Thanks again

Stumacdo,

I tested the Sony tonight against my Panny s77. I have the Samsung HLR-4667W so results should be fairly similar for you.

The Sony still displays macroblocking but nowhere near to the extent that the Panny does.
Overall, the Sony has a much better picture quality. Oddly enough, my hacked xbox upscaling to 720p can do almost as good of a job, so the Sony is going back to BB until I can purchase a HD-DVD player. Hope this helps.

Adam

Don't assume the Sony player has a better scaler than your tv and forget to try the 480p setting when choosing the best picture. I have a 720p Samsung HLP5063 and after trying all of the different settings, 480p looked the best on my tv.

Don't assume the Sony player has a better scaler than your tv and forget to try the 480p setting when choosing the best picture. I have a 720p Samsung HLP5063 and after trying all of the different settings, 480p looked the best on my tv.
Agree, try them all & see what looks best. For me 1080i gives the best picture - go figure (even though display isn't 1080i native)

This is why the HS75H (in silver) is recommended over the NC85H (in black). Sony has had problems with their 5 disc carousels.

Any specifics on what these problems may be? A friend is looking for a 5-disc changer and I was just going to recommend this one. Thanks.

/steve

I've been through all 32 pages of these posts. Is there any way to turn off audio through HDMI?? This cause a real problem to me on my Sony HDTV, as I don't want to have to turn the volume down everytime I switch over to a movie. My receiver doesn't pass hdmi, so I use Coax. I can't believe that there is no way to turn off HDMI sound. :eek:

I've been through all 32 pages of these posts. Is there any way to turn off audio through HDMI?? This cause a real problem to me on my Sony HDTV, as I don't want to have to turn the volume down everytime I switch over to a movie. My receiver doesn't pass hdmi, so I use Coax. I can't believe that there is no way to turn off HDMI sound. :eek:


I can turn off the hdmi sound via the audio set up in my panny plasma tv...I can set the hdmi sound input to auto..digital...or analog...if you set tv to analog..you need two rca cables ..same as using a dvi cable..to carry the sound..so if you do not have any rca cables hooked up..the tv will not play any sound from the hdmi cable

hope this helps

Thanks for the response. I've got a sony 36 inch 955xs and from what I see, there is no way to disable HDMI audio there either. Sucks.... :confused:

You must have missed post # 115. :) It generally says that the receiver will handle the digital audio chores if you connect by means of optical or coaxial cable from the player to the receiver.

So has anyone picked up the DVP-NC85H 5-disc changer? I'm assuming it should be the same in term of function as the ns75. I need a good upconverting player for my sony 30hs420 hdtv. Getting a five changer would be a plus. I just saw them both on sale at BB here. :)
I've had one for about a month now, I've got it hooked up to my tv with an hdmi cable and to my reciever with a coaxial digitial cable-get one asap. The picture is to die for.

Apaullo, I do know how it works. I think you are just misunderstanding what I'm trying to do. I have my coax into my Pioneer receiver. It does not have HDMI inputs on it. The problem I was addressing was that there is no way to turn off the HDMI audio going into my tv. HDMI is going straight from the DVD player to the tv. If I have the volume up a third of the way, then swith over to the hdmi input to watch a movie through the dvd player, I have to turn the tv volume down or I will hear it through the tv speakers as well as the floor standing speakers. I shouldn't have to turn the voume down on the tv speakers every time I want to watch a movie.

I have a Denon 1920 on my other tv, and I'm able to disable HDMI audio on that one. Seems shortsighted on Sony's part. Thanks for your inputs!!

I shouldn't have to turn the voume down on the tv speakers every time I want to watch a movie.

Can't you just hit the audio "mute" button on your TV when you want to listen to the sound via your receiver? I'm not sure what the problem is. Any of us with audio receivers hooked-up have the same issue... it's not HDMI-specific.

Then the "MUTE" sign would be displayed and very annoying. I agree though, just hit the volume down button everytime - it's not a big deal.

Many TVs have a speaker off setting in the menu and that setting is also available in programmable remotes like the Harmony. Also, fwiw, the Panny S52/77/97 DVD players have the ability to turn HDMI audio off in the setup menu. Unfortunately Sony neglected to add such a feature.

ok doom..you might try this: Use a hdmi to dvi cable..then another dvi cable with reverse sex ending in HDMI for the tv. DVI, as far as I know, wont pass audio but the digital video will stay digital into the tv. Hey..it might work!

Sorry, that won't work, I tried it a while back in a similar scenario. Remember: HDMI audio is passed in the digital domain along with digital video through the HDMI connection. Its not like there is a seperate path for the audio like there is with DVI which uses analog audio. What would be needed would be to stop the HDMI audio at the source.

Sorry, that won't work, I tried it a while back in a similar scenario. Remember: HDMI audio is passed in the digital domain along with digital video through the HDMI connection. Its not like there is a seperate path for the audio like there is with DVI which uses analog audio. What would be needed would be to stop the HDMI audio at the source.

You actually tried it and it didn't work? That would surprise me. I've never tried it so I can't state anything as factual here (so I shouldn't even be posting :rolleyes: ) but as I understand it, HDMI/DVI will strip the audio at the DVI point. I can't see the audio being passed on when you go back to HDMI because it's been stripped (not ignored). Your TV should only see a DVI video source (which means no audio) during the HDCP handshake and have no audio.

The other slight problem with this is the Sony will also detect the DVI during the HDCP handhake and only send and RGB signal. Not a big deal though, 8 bit vs. 10 bit color.

Hey, thanks for the response guys, but if you look at my earlier posts, HDMI is going straight to the tv, not through the Pioneer Amp. Thus, the audio gets to the tv unless there is a way to turn it off at the DVD player. Unfortunately, Sony did not put this in, which may be a small oversight to some, but a pain in the butt to me. Everytime I want to watch a movie, I have to mute the TV, or turn it down. Should not have to. I took the player back, as to me, this is a stupid oversight by Sony. Thanks for the responses guys, I just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing an option on the Sony that allows you to turn it off.

It's really no big deal-just turn off the volume on the tv-mine remembers what the volume was set at when its powered down.

<anyone has tested with KDL-40S2000 yet????>

I just got Bravia KDL-40S2000 on Friday.
anyone has tested Sony DVP-NS75H with Bravia KDL-40s2000 yet?????????

<anyone has tested with KDL-40S2000 yet????>

I just got Bravia KDL-40S2000 on Friday.
anyone has tested Sony DVP-NS75H with Bravia KDL-40s2000 yet?????????

i believe that is the 40 in lcd tv....if it is..it is the one I tested this player on in PC richard's via the hdmi and it looked spectacular...I put 4 or 5 dvd's on it it and it looked great ....Toy Story 2 looked like a 3d movie..so if it's the set I'm thinking of...this dvd player is the one for you

i believe that is the 40 in lcd tv....if it is..it is the one I tested this player on in PC richard's via the hdmi and it looked spectacular...I put 4 or 5 dvd's on it it and it looked great ....Toy Story 2 looked like a 3d movie..so if it's the set I'm thinking of...this dvd player is the one for you


the set I was testing was the 40 inch xbr lcd tv...my apologies

I turned the SS on and it works when I hit stop. However, I watched a movie recently and slept. The Screen Saver did bo kick in. After the movie, the player navigated back to the main menu, which is a motion menu. Is that why the Screen Saver did not execute? Is there a fix for this, like an option to use the SS if you stay at the Meain Menu for the requisite perion of time?

Thanks,

Gary

Is that why the Screen Saver did not execute? Is there a fix for this, like an option to use the SS if you stay at the Meain Menu for the requisite perion of time?
I don't believe this is unique to the Sony. Activity (menu motion) = SS doesn't kick in. No way around it aside from setting the sleep timer on the TV prior to starting the movie.

When I use my Panasonic DVD player with my Sony SXRD TV and the audio receiver I get the full 6 speaker surround with the main talking coming from the front speakers and the side speakers filling in with background effect.

When I use the Sony NS 75 DVD player all 6 speakers are putting out the same volume with no surround it seems.

I'm plugging into the same input I plugged my Pioneer into.

Is there something I need to adjust on the Sony DVD player to allow for my 6 speaker system?

Excuse the question as I'm not that technical.

Thank you,

Lance

It's really no big deal-just turn off the volume on the tv-mine remembers what the volume was set at when its powered down.I have the Sony NC85 (5-disc changer version of NS75) and use the Speaker Off option in my Sony RPTV's menu when I don't want to listen to TV speakers in favor of via AVR using digital coax connection.

Menu -> Audio option -> turn Dolby Digital (& DTS if applicable) on

When I use my Panasonic DVD player with my Sony SXRD TV and the audio receiver I get the full 6 speaker surround with the main talking coming from the front speakers and the side speakers filling in with background effect.

When I use the Sony NS 75 DVD player all 6 speakers are putting out the same volume with no surround it seems.

I'm plugging into the same input I plugged my Pioneer into.

Is there something I need to adjust on the Sony DVD player to allow for my 6 speaker system?

Excuse the question as I'm not that technical.

Thank you,

Lance

I think I'm having the same problem and I don't know if there's a fix. I'm not technical at all either, but here's what I think is happening. When you connect the NS75 to a sony television via hdmi, they talk to each other, and apparently, the dvd player will only send out audio signals that can be decoded by your television. I don't really understand sound that well or multichannel stuff, but my sony television (the xs955) does not decode dts (I don't think) or 6:1, so the NS75 doesn't send it. Here's the problem -- it also doesn't send it through the optical sound output, so your receiver is only getting the maximum type of signal your tv can accept.

I'm sure I got about half of that wrong, but that's the general point. In the owners manual on page 70 it says, "Note If the HDMI OUT jack is connected to equipment not compatible with DTS signals, the "OFF" signals will automaticlaly be output even when you select "ON"."

I'm not sure whether I have this exactly right or not, but when I connect my NC85 (the 5 disc version of the 75) to my 60xs955 via HDMI, I get no signal through my subwoofer, but when I connect it through component, I get full 6:1 signal. I'm not sure there's a fix, although I haven't been through this whole thread yet. Glad to see it's not just me.

Not sure that's the issue....though can't say for certain. Yes, HDMI passes the audio signal - but I believe the Sony passes the signal through all outputs at the same time. Not 100% sure if when the digital link is established that the unit disables the DD/DTS streams if the TV doesn't acknowledge????

I use the HDMI to TV & optical to the reciever = works fine...........though TV speakers aren't connected (& set to off in TV's menu). My display has no DD/DTS decoder.

Somewhere there's a post in this thread asking of the Sony passed the audio through all outputs & the answer was yes even though the manual suggest otherwise.

Very strange situation you have. I have my NS75H hooked to my projector using HDMI and the sound hooked to my receiver via coax digital and everything is hunkydory. My projector obviously can't reproduce DTS-ES through it's 2 watt single speaker!

Yesterday I was watching The Godfather (brand new out of the box) and a few times during playback, the player would stop, screen would go blank for about 2 seconds, and start back where it left off. My older progressive scan dvd player played the same dvd without a problem. Any ideas what this could be??

So I ordered the High-Quality 24 AWG HDMI cable from monoprice and it arrived last week.

Hooked it to the ns75 and I still experience the same problem. When video and audio stops, the blue HDMI light flashes. What could be the problem?? Anyone's input on this would be greatly appreciated.

Somewhere there's a post in this thread asking of the Sony passed the audio through all outputs & the answer was yes even though the manual suggest otherwise.

You are correct. The Sony will pass audio through all of it's ports all of the time. This is something I had to have and was the reason I sent a few other DVD players back.

So I need to go back to my Panasonic H1000 (an oldie but a goodie), connected to the Sony via Component or connect the Sony DVD via component which goes contrary to why I purchased the Sony Player in the first place..(so I could hook up HDMI).


GGEEEZZ

Lance

When video and audio stops, the blue HDMI light flashes. What could be the problem?? Anyone's input on this would be greatly appreciated
Flashing blue light = loss of digital sync. Since you've gotten a new cable it would seem to imply that either the display or the player is having trouble maintaining the connection. Only sure fire way to determine where the fault lies is to do just what you did with the cable - diff player, diff display = PITA :D

So I need to go back to my Panasonic H1000 (an oldie but a goodie), connected to the Sony via Component or connect the Sony DVD via component which goes contrary to why I purchased the Sony Player in the first place..(so I could hook up HDMI)
Might be unique to the Sony -> Sony connection. Can you disable the sound on the display? If the display ignores the audio (vs can't decode) maybe the player will send audio via the digital outs?

FWIW - the unit doesn't upconvert via component. W/o HDMI it's just a progressive player.

Menu -> Audio option -> turn Dolby Digital (& DTS if applicable) on


Just wanted to say 'THANKS'! It worked..my 6 spkr system is working great with the Sony DVD now.

Lance

Might be unique to the Sony -> Sony connection. Can you disable the sound on the display? If the display ignores the audio (vs can't decode) maybe the player will send audio via the digital outs?

This is my concern. I've tried diasabling sound, and it doesn't help. Lance sounds like he resolved his problem, so I'm not sure what's going on with mine. When I use HDMI, I don't get full 6 channel on digital optical, but when I use component, I do.

I have the NC85 hooked up to my sony xbr960 through HDMI and digital out to my receiver and it gets 5.1.

I have had about 4 audio/video dropouts on various dvd's since Ive had it.

I have the NC85 hooked up to my sony xbr960 through HDMI and digital out to my receiver and it gets 5.1.

I have had about 4 audio/video dropouts on various dvd's since Ive had it.

I posted many times the same problem you are having..the audio video dropouts..I was using a generic hdmi cable I bought on e-bay....this was causing the problem..I went out and bought an Acoustic Research cable at best buy...they sell it for 110..but buy .com sells it for 42.00......and I have had no more problems..this player seems very sensitive to those cheap online cables......check it out for yourself..pick one up at best buy then return cable like i did and get it from buy.com......I have not had a single dropout since i changed cable......It was driving me nuts..and I spent endless hours trying to resolve issue..including Sony tech support..and exchanging player..only to find out it was the cable all along

I posted many times the same problem you are having..the audio video dropouts..I was using a generic hdmi cable I bought on e-bay....this was causing the problem..I went out and bought an Acoustic Research cable at best buy...they sell it for 110..but buy .com sells it for 42.00......and I have had no more problems..this player seems very sensitive to those cheap online cables......check it out for yourself..pick one up at best buy then return cable like i did and get it from buy.com......I have not had a single dropout since i changed cable......It was driving me nuts..and I spent endless hours trying to resolve issue..including Sony tech support..and exchanging player..only to find out it was the cable all along

Im using the AR 6' hdmi cable I got from best buy.

I'm also using an Acoustic Research 6 foot hdmi cable from BB with my 75h. No audio dropouts at all and I have an awesome picture on my 60inch SXRD.

And for a bit of "the other side" I use a 6' Monoprice (their cheapest) works fine = zero issues.

To join the bandwagon I'm using a 25' HDMI 22 awg from Monoprice to a Flexible HDMI adaptor cord thing (mentioned here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=674028) As an aside, that thing was a lifesaver. For those who havent seen it, the 22awg HDMI from monoprice looks like an industrial power cable. Its massive, way bigger in person. There was no way I would have been able to connect the thing to where I have the projector mounted without the adapter.

I was using a 3m HDMI cable (forget which type) that I got at Circuit City until my monoprice order arrived. The only issue I've ever had was when I switched the one for the other. Dont know why but for about a half hour my projector wouldn't sync up at all. Would flash a black screen with the proper video stats (720x60) and then flash the generic screen that you get when you dont have a signal. Kept doing that even though powering down the projector but stopped after I unplugged the pj and plugged it back in. Since then, no issues. I have no idea what happened or why but since everything works again I'm not inclined to press the issue at the moment.

This is why the HS75H (in silver) is recommended over the NC85H (in black). Sony has had problems with their 5 disc carousels.


I haven't had any problems with my 85h so far (knock on wood). I just like the convenience of a changer too much.

I have the 85H, and I've noticed some audio issues. It seems that sound gets louder and softer through a movie. I have it connected to my TV via HDMI and noticed that the cable at the input on the player has a little bit of "play". I'm using the HDMI cable I got from Comcast (my STB is running into component). Does anyone else have this audio issue? Should the cable seem so flimsily connected (ie; the input itself is solid, but when a cable is connected, one can push it from side to side with no effort at all).

The HDMI cable is sitting very firmly in my set, so I'm wondering if the input on the back of the Sony just doesn't like this particular cable, or if it's just the nature of HDMI to be somewhat loose?? LOL

Any help would be appreciated! :)

And for a bit of "the other side" I use a 6' Monoprice (their cheapest) works fine = zero issues.


No problems with my cheap 6' Monoprice HDMI cable either.