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gene9p
05-17-06, 07:12 PM
No problems with my cheap 6' Monoprice HDMI cable either.
unfortunately the cable i bought was 15 ft and monoprice did not have any at the time..so I bought it from someonelse....I use some 6ft jumpers myself from monoprice for my hd cable box without any problems..so i like their stuff too...and the cable I got looked well made and very heavy built..but it had video dropout issues...and the clown has the cable back and my money too..so it's time for an e-bay fraud complaint......one thing you can do is power down the player and the display by turning off and unplugging from electric outlet..same as you would a pc for a minute ..then repower.....it will help clear any static elecricity that can cause issues when cables are hooked up while unit was plugged into electric

WaldorfSalad
05-17-06, 07:59 PM
I haven't had any problems with my 85h so far (knock on wood). I just like the convenience of a changer too much.Ditto. Prior to the NC85 I had the NC80 for about a year and experienced NO problems with its carousel.

I have the 85H, and I've noticed some audio issues. It seems that sound gets louder and softer through a movie. I have it connected to my TV via HDMI and noticed that the cable at the input on the player has a little bit of "play". I'm using the HDMI cable I got from Comcast (my STB is running into component). Does anyone else have this audio issue? Should the cable seem so flimsily connected (ie; the input itself is solid, but when a cable is connected, one can push it from side to side with no effort at all).

The HDMI cable is sitting very firmly in my set, so I'm wondering if the input on the back of the Sony just doesn't like this particular cable, or if it's just the nature of HDMI to be somewhat loose?? LOL

Any help would be appreciated! :)No audio problems experienced with my NC85 connected to my Sony RPTV via HDMI. I'm using the cheapo 6' HDMI cable that came with my D* HDTivo receiver.

Locke13
05-18-06, 11:07 PM
Hey people,
This site is awesome the one and only source I've needed for about everything to get my system hooked up, its been extremely helpful thanks a lot everyone. :) . I just picked up a panny 42px60u from bestbuy along with Sony’s 75h and got it connected with monsters hdmi cable, this thing looks amazing. Have not had any problems so far but one and its really throwing me off. I have a substantial anime collection and prefer to watch these in Japanese. Here’s the thing whenever the subtitles pop up my whole screen gets noticeably brighter, when they go away back to normal, so it basically flickers throughout the entire movie whenever someone talks :confused: . This does not happen on my ps2 and I have changed about every setting I have on both my plasma and dvd player. I switched my hdmi cable for a S-Video connection and the problem is still there. The really weird thing is that this does not affect regular movies as far as I can tell (I have tried about 6) only hand drawn animation, these are commercial dvds btw. I love this player for the hdmi/optical outputs and upconversion features. Is this only happening to me? That would be awesome as I don't really want to return this and search for a new player but if no solution is found it will be my only choice. Thanks again for the info

CT_Wiebe
05-18-06, 11:25 PM
Locke13 -- Are you sure that your panny 42px60u isn't the culprit? If it has an "auto" brightness control turned on, then you can get that knid of effect anytime a subtitle pops up.

zrdb
05-18-06, 11:51 PM
Simple solution-watch your anime dubbed with the subs turned off-seriously, I had a problem like that with my old hdtv, I just turned the brightness down. I do watch anime dubbed whenever I have a choice-but this is the wrong place to talk about that.

Tigershark
05-19-06, 05:19 AM
Hey people,
This site is awesome the one and only source I've needed for about everything to get my system hooked up, its been extremely helpful thanks a lot everyone. :) . I just picked up a panny 42px60u from bestbuy along with Sony’s 75h and got it connected with monsters hdmi cable, this thing looks amazing. Have not had any problems so far but one and its really throwing me off. I have a substantial anime collection and prefer to watch these in Japanese. Here’s the thing whenever the subtitles pop up my whole screen gets noticeably brighter, when they go away back to normal, so it basically flickers throughout the entire movie whenever someone talks :confused: . This does not happen on my ps2 and I have changed about every setting I have on both my plasma and dvd player. I switched my hdmi cable for a S-Video connection and the problem is still there. The really weird thing is that this does not affect regular movies as far as I can tell (I have tried about 6) only hand drawn animation, these are commercial dvds btw. I love this player for the hdmi/optical outputs and upconversion features. Is this only happening to me? That would be awesome as I don't really want to return this and search for a new player but if no solution is found it will be my only choice. Thanks again for the info

Is it all subtitles, or only those on Anime discs? I have had no problem watching subtitles on numerous discs, including foreign language movies with English subtitles. Haven't tried any anime yet.

And yes, I never watch Anime dubbed if I can help it.

zrdb
05-19-06, 09:51 AM
I run a Sony DVP-NC85H through hdmi at 1080I to my crt hdtv and have no problems what so ever with any brightness varations when waching subbetitles anime.

gene9p
05-19-06, 10:11 AM
Hey people,
This site is awesome the one and only source I've needed for about everything to get my system hooked up, its been extremely helpful thanks a lot everyone. :) . I just picked up a panny 42px60u from bestbuy along with Sony’s 75h and got it connected with monsters hdmi cable, this thing looks amazing. Have not had any problems so far but one and its really throwing me off. I have a substantial anime collection and prefer to watch these in Japanese. Here’s the thing whenever the subtitles pop up my whole screen gets noticeably brighter, when they go away back to normal, so it basically flickers throughout the entire movie whenever someone talks :confused: . This does not happen on my ps2 and I have changed about every setting I have on both my plasma and dvd player. I switched my hdmi cable for a S-Video connection and the problem is still there. The really weird thing is that this does not affect regular movies as far as I can tell (I have tried about 6) only hand drawn animation, these are commercial dvds btw. I love this player for the hdmi/optical outputs and upconversion features. Is this only happening to me? That would be awesome as I don't really want to return this and search for a new player but if no solution is found it will be my only choice. Thanks again for the info


I have 42px50u......make sure you calibrate settings...color, contrast, etc,..using the standard mode...never use the vivid mode..especially for animated movies as it really brightens up the screen...I watch everything, tv..dvds, etc..in the standard mode..the 60u has higher contrast ratio..10,000 to 1....so be aware how that can affect the picture if you do not calibrate tv and are watching it using factory settings which always turned way up and can harm tv

bradu
05-19-06, 04:30 PM
Just wanted to chime in on the Sony NS75H as I just picked one up on Wednesday..., In a word awesome. I was so impressed by the performance of the NS75H, that I convinced a fellow co-worker to pick one up. He too is very happy with his purchase. My TV is a small 32" LG lcd, and the picture is impressive when playing well made DVD's (Sin City looked fabulous). My buddy has a Sony Wega 60 LCD projection and he is also very impressed. He left his fully defaulted and he says it looks great. So far I played with mine a bit and am planning to break out the DVE disk this weekend to tweak it (btw we both used the HDMI connections with cheap cables made by a local computer cable company).

I had tried the LG LDA-731 and was sadly disappointed. The picture quality was horrible, worse than my old non progressive scanning player and the sound through the HDMI to the TV would clip, crack and pop (not good at all).

I was also considering the Panasonic S52 but the oh so flimsy disk tray was a concern as I have 3 kids that are prone to have the occasional "accident". Though it would have been nice to have Divx functionality, the Sony picture, features, and build quality provided the best all round package for me.

Can't go wrong with this player, I have had no shift issues, pixelation (or macro blocking) issues, and the sound is great through both the HDMI and digital out to my receiver. DTS is awesome as is the Dolby, very dynamic sound better than my old Sony DVP-ns300.

Cheers,
Brad

JimSD
05-19-06, 04:47 PM
Can't go wrong with this player, I have had no shift issues, pixelation (or macro blocking) issues, and the sound is great through both the HDMI and digital out to my receiver. DTS is awesome as is the Dolby, very dynamic sound better than my old Sony DVP-ns300.
That's the same player that my NS75H replaced. I'm also using it on a 32" LCD.

jnunez
05-19-06, 06:03 PM
What do BNR and MNR do!!?

dap2
05-19-06, 07:03 PM
I justed purchased the NS75H and am too very happy with the picture quality, actually quite amazed at how good DVD's look on my new Hi-Def Plasma.

But, I was under the impression the NS75H would play PAL DVDs. When I insert a PAL DVD, it says it is unplayable due to being out-of-region. Also, the users manula clearly states it only plays NTSC DVDs. Does anyone know if there is a way (hack?) to enable the NS75H to play PAL DVDs?

If not, does anyone have a recomendation for an unconverting HDMI DVD player that will play PAL.

Thanks,
Dave

WaldorfSalad
05-19-06, 07:59 PM
The Sony DVD players won't play PAL DVDs out of the box. There are some hacked Sony DVD players available online that are region free but they won't work with an NTSC TV because they don't have PAL-to-NTSC converters. If you really need to be able to play PAL DVDs on an NTSC TV, look for hacked/region-free players from Pioneer, Yamaha, LG, etc.

WaldorfSalad
05-19-06, 08:01 PM
What do BNR and MNR do!!?BNR = block noise reduction. MNR = mosquito noise reduction. MNR cleans up the edges a bit and is usable but BNR tends to smear the image a bit so not really recommended.

jnunez
05-20-06, 06:22 AM
Thanks for the response to my question!

CT_Wiebe
05-20-06, 05:12 PM
dap2 -- The Oppo DV971H is both region free and will play both NTSC and PAL (no hacks needed). However, it's really only useable with it's DVI output (its component outputs will only do 480i and does not put out a very good quality picture).

tommy122
05-20-06, 05:39 PM
According to the specs that I have read about this player, 720p/1080i is selectable. Mine is putting out 1080i and the picture is fine. I would like to change it to 720p to see if it is any better but I can't figure out how to do this. (I am using the HDMI hookup) Does anyone know how to do this?

WaldorfSalad
05-20-06, 05:43 PM
There is an option in the setup menu. See also the manual.

CT_Wiebe
05-20-06, 05:58 PM
tommy122 -- It's under "Screen Setup" => "HDMI Resolution", see page 62 of the manual. The 1080i output is the default, and you can select 1080i, 720p or 480p there.

FYI - All of the setings details are covered in the manual, starting on page 60. It took me a little while to figure out where they put all of that information. All of the stuff, in front of that section, is sort of confusing.

daniels1994
05-20-06, 06:06 PM
Just wanted to chime in on the Sony NS75H as I just picked one up on Wednesday..., In a word awesome. I was so impressed by the performance of the NS75H, that I convinced a fellow co-worker to pick one up. He too is very happy with his purchase. My TV is a small 32" LG lcd, and the picture is impressive when playing well made DVD's (Sin City looked fabulous). My buddy has a Sony Wega 60 LCD projection and he is also very impressed. He left his fully defaulted and he says it looks great. So far I played with mine a bit and am planning to break out the DVE disk this weekend to tweak it (btw we both used the HDMI connections with cheap cables made by a local computer cable company).

I had tried the LG LDA-731 and was sadly disappointed. The picture quality was horrible, worse than my old non progressive scanning player and the sound through the HDMI to the TV would clip, crack and pop (not good at all).

I was also considering the Panasonic S52 but the oh so flimsy disk tray was a concern as I have 3 kids that are prone to have the occasional "accident". Though it would have been nice to have Divx functionality, the Sony picture, features, and build quality provided the best all round package for me.

Can't go wrong with this player, I have had no shift issues, pixelation (or macro blocking) issues, and the sound is great through both the HDMI and digital out to my receiver. DTS is awesome as is the Dolby, very dynamic sound better than my old Sony DVP-ns300.

Cheers,
Brad


Hi Brad
regarding the NS75H, are you able to get true 5.1 channel surround thru HDMI and if so which receiver are you using. I have a Kenwood that was purchased 2 years ago but I think its not that great and thinking of getting a new receiver and dvd player (mine is denon 1920). Thanks, Dan

tommy122
05-20-06, 06:07 PM
tommy122 -- It's under "Screen Setup" => "HDMI Resolution", see page 62 of the manual. The 1080i output is the default, and you can select 1080i, 720p or 480p there.

Thanks. Currently, the HDMI resolution is set to "AUTO". This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway. According to my TV specs, the native resolution of my TV is 1366x768. So which resolution should I choose?

CT_Wiebe
05-20-06, 06:16 PM
That's simple, whichever one looks the best :D.

Honestly, it's really hard to say, it would depend on what your display does with the various HDMI signal formats (as well as what the NS75H does to generate those outputs). The real answer depends on which one uses the least signal processing. Unfortunately, the only way to tell that is to try it and see :eek:. My guess would be 1080i, but that's based on my engineering background and my very big assumption that the Sony engineers "did it right".

rwestley
05-21-06, 11:48 AM
CC is offering this player with a $30 rebate now. This brings the price even lower and one can often find a extra 10% off coupon making it a great buy.

mikej3131
05-22-06, 11:47 AM
anybody find out for sure if this player deinterlaces when set to 1080i?

480i->480p->1080p->1080i????????

or

480i->1080i????????



The progressive light is on when this player is set to 1080i so I assume it does the first option. Plus someone told me it is cheaper is Sony does it that way so they probably did?

flykid83
05-22-06, 02:41 PM
I am deciding weather to go with the Sony DVP-NS75H or the Sony DVP-NC85H. I heard many people are having problems with the audio on the NC85. Is this the only problem they are receiving? I just ordered a few HDMI wires from online and I’m scared that they will have the dropouts like everyone else and I would have to spend around 50bucks for the real ones. What about the NS75 do they have problems with the cheap HDMI wires?

liy
05-22-06, 04:40 PM
I am deciding weather to go with the Sony DVP-NS75H or the Sony DVP-NC85H. I heard many people are having problems with the audio on the NC85. Is this the only problem they are receiving? I just ordered a few HDMI wires from online and I’m scared that they will have the dropouts like everyone else and I would have to spend around 50bucks for the real ones. What about the NS75 do they have problems with the cheap HDMI wires?

Currently using the 85h with cheapest Monoprice cable - no problems. :D

LIY

zrdb
05-22-06, 08:04 PM
I have had no problems what so ever with my 85, no audio sync problems-nada, so I guess it comes down to personnel preferences-do you like the convience of 5 disc carasol unit or do you like a single disc player better?

WaldorfSalad
05-22-06, 11:49 PM
I am deciding weather to go with the Sony DVP-NS75H or the Sony DVP-NC85H. I heard many people are having problems with the audio on the NC85. Is this the only problem they are receiving? I just ordered a few HDMI wires from online and I’m scared that they will have the dropouts like everyone else and I would have to spend around 50bucks for the real ones. What about the NS75 do they have problems with the cheap HDMI wires?Many people? Like Everyone else? No offense but I've only read about a couple of people having a problem but many more people (myself included - I have NC85) are not having a problem. If you are worried, make sure to buy from somewhere that has a good return policy.
I have had no problems what so ever with my 85, no audio sync problems-nada, so I guess it comes down to personnel preferences-do you like the convience of 5 disc carasol unit or do you like a single disc player better?I want both and would do so if they did not both use the same remote codes! :( My only real gripe with the NC85 is the time it takes to load a disc. On the bright side though it is 2-3 times faster to load than a Yamaha 5-disc changer. ;)

CT_Wiebe
05-23-06, 01:06 AM
flykid83 -- There is a big difference between "cheap" HDMI cables and "low-cost" ones (and it's not price, but cable quality). If you're in doubt, get them from monoprice, as liy said.

sfong
05-23-06, 05:20 PM
I just bought a Sony XDR 50" tv so now I'm looking to buy this dvd player. I have checked around and my question is why does BB have DVP-NS750H, CC have DVP-NS75H, and Fry's has DVP-NS75B? Are these all the same unit just each with their own unique model # for each store or what?

wcaughey
05-23-06, 08:34 PM
Anyone using their DVP-NS75H with a sanyo z3 PJ?

I'm curious at to what other z3 users had their dvd player settings set to.

I just picked up this player today after reading all the positive responses here and was tinkering in the setup and PQ settings.

Is it just me or should sharpness/bnr/mnr all have been set to on/highest by default? Would this give the best possible PQ or is having these turned on sometimes not desireable or even negative? I'm assuming its all on a display-to-display basis, though. Just seemed like bumping up the sharpness made me feel like I was really watching 720p.

I must say I'm quite impressed with this dvd player (upscaling to 720p) just in the quick comparision I did to my xbox360 dvd player. Tweaking tips for the z3 anyone?

zrdb
05-23-06, 09:14 PM
Any things gotta play dvds better than an xbox.

brezz
05-23-06, 11:19 PM
I am starting to set up a new home theater system, and I am trying to decide on the DVD player to get. I'm planning on getting the Samsung HLS-5687W for my TV. I was debating initally between the Oppo (which I have heard good things about but I'm a little intimidated by all of the "fixes" that people are suggesting to get it to play right) and the new Samsung DVD player (which I haven't read many reviews yet so I'm a little skeptical).

Recently I had someone suggest this DVD player for my new TV. What are others' opinion regarding this suggestion? How does this DVD player compare to the two I have mentioned above?

Thanks for the help, sorry if this has been discussed already.

Brian

WaldorfSalad
05-24-06, 12:11 AM
I just bought a Sony XDR 50" tv so now I'm looking to buy this dvd player. I have checked around and my question is why does BB have DVP-NS750H, CC have DVP-NS75H, and Fry's has DVP-NS75B? Are these all the same unit just each with their own unique model # for each store or what?The NS750H is a misprint on the BB web site. If you look at the item in the store it is a NS75H, same as CC.
Btw, when you say you just bought a Sony XDR 50" tv do you mean an SXRD or an A10? If so, either way, the Sony NS75H is a good choice for that TV.

sfong
05-24-06, 07:19 AM
Yes I meant SXRD. Sorry I was typing too fast and didn't catch my mistake. Thanks for the help!

Tigershark
05-24-06, 09:43 PM
That's simple, whichever one looks the best :D.

Honestly, it's really hard to say, it would depend on what your display does with the various HDMI signal formats (as well as what the NS75H does to generate those outputs). The real answer depends on which one uses the least signal processing. Unfortunately, the only way to tell that is to try it and see :eek:. My guess would be 1080i, but that's based on my engineering background and my very big assumption that the Sony engineers "did it right".


I agree that you just have to see for yourself and that each player/display combination would have different "best" settings. However, in theory, with all other things being equal, why would having the Sony DVD Player upconvert to 1080i be best for a 1366x768 display? In other words, why is 480i -> 1080i -> 768p better than 480i -> 720p -> 768p?

Seems like the 2nd method would involve less work by the display, which makes sense IF you believe the Sony is better at the signal conversion than the display. Also, from a technical perspective, aren't you modifying the signal less by going from 480 -> 720 -> 768 versus 480 -> 1080 -> 768 which requires you to overshoot, and then drop lines to get back to 768? Just wondering.

Jon_in_Boston
05-25-06, 07:21 PM
Hi All,

I'm buying my mother a new LTV-32W6 which she will use for T.V. viewing and playing DVDs. In her area, the local cable company only has analog cable at this time but they expect to provide HD sometime within the next year. Her current coaxial cable is hooked into her VCR unit. I also plan on buying a new Upconverting DVD player to go with the new LCD T.V. If I hook the coaxial cable up to the DVD player and connect the DVD player to the LTV-32W6 using the HDMI cable, will the analog cable signal get upconverted? Or should I just hook the coaxial cable directly to the LTV-32W6? I'm trying to figure out what the best configuration will be until her local cable company gets HD cable.

The two upconverting DVD players I'm considering are the Sony DVP-NS75H and the Panasonic DVD-S77S. Which is the better option for the LTV-32W6? Thanks for your help!

Best Regards,
Jon

zrdb
05-25-06, 09:05 PM
Go with the Sony-you won't be sorry!!

dayvo
05-26-06, 12:19 PM
There's no tuner in the DVD players -- no way to hook up the coax so no upconversion of regular cable. You'll have to rely on the scaler in the TV for that.

I've got the Sony NS75H and am very happy with it. Of the various video settings, the cinema 1 mode in the Sony seems to have the most accurate signal levels and color for HDMI output.

Good luck.

Jon_in_Boston
05-26-06, 07:46 PM
Hi,

Thanks ZRDB and Dayvo for your replies! It will be the Sony NS75H. I'm headed to Best Buy this evening! Thanks!


Best Regards,
Jon

ssen
05-27-06, 07:13 PM
Does this player have the feature that scales up a 2.39:1 letterboxed movie to vertically fill a 16:9 screen? I am trying out the Oppo, but among other things that I don't like about it is that I have to do a Zoom to fill the screen and that degrades the PQ to my eyes. I was wondering if the Sony has a stretch feature that allows this without loss of PQ.

Also, I heard that when you zoom the 2x sign comes up on the screen and does not go away. Is this true?

Thanks

Ein
05-27-06, 09:45 PM
Does this player have the feature that scales up a 2.39:1 letterboxed movie to vertically fill a 16:9 screen? I am trying out the Oppo, but among other things that I don't like about it is that I have to do a Zoom to fill the screen and that degrades the PQ to my eyes. I was wondering if the Sony has a stretch feature that allows this without loss of PQ.

Also, I heard that when you zoom the 2x sign comes up on the screen and does not go away. Is this true?

Thanks

Yes, it doesn't go away.

I just pick one today. It's going back. The picture is not that much better than my current 480P player, but it does play most of the recored media I put in it.

I'm getting the Toshiba HD DVD player instead.

zrdb
05-27-06, 10:15 PM
Yes, it doesn't go away.

I just pick one today. It's going back. The picture is not that much better than my current 480P player, but it does play most of the recored media I put in it.

I'm getting the Toshiba HD DVD player instead.
It must be nice to have 500 bucks burning a hole in your pocket-there is no way I would buy one of those Toshiba pieces of hddvd garbage.

gwsmith
05-27-06, 10:38 PM
Yes, it doesn't go away.

I just pick one today. It's going back. The picture is not that much better than my current 480P player, but it does play most of the recored media I put in it.

I'm getting the Toshiba HD DVD player instead.It's not supposed to be "that much better" than a 480P player....you're putting 480 source material into it. The upconverting feature is a crap shoot with any player, IMO, and results depend a lot on the source material, not just the player.

I'd buy an HD player too, if there was sufficient HD content to view. Buy one now and it'll be worn out (from playing SD DVD's in it) or "last year's model" by the time HD content is widely available.

In a year or so, I'd bet I can junk the $129 Sony, buy a new 2007 model HD player and still not have spent more than $500. ;)

Ein
05-28-06, 01:09 AM
It's not supposed to be "that much better" than a 480P player....you're putting 480 source material into it. The upconverting feature is a crap shoot with any player, IMO, and results depend a lot on the source material, not just the player.

I'd buy an HD player too, if there was sufficient HD content to view. Buy one now and it'll be worn out (from playing SD DVD's in it) or "last year's model" by the time HD content is widely available.

In a year or so, I'd bet I can junk the $129 Sony, buy a new 2007 model HD player and still not have spent more than $500. ;)

I know it's a crab shot. That's why I didn't try an up-converted play till now. My old player can't read any of the DVD+r DL disk.

I was going to keep the Sony until I check my Netflix queue. There are few new releases on HD DVD next month not just some old re-releases. Why not enjoy now? :)

Ein
05-28-06, 01:10 AM
It must be nice to have 500 bucks burning a hole in your pocket-there is no way I would buy one of those Toshiba pieces of hddvd garbage.

Yes, it is.

I can always return it. :)

gene9p
05-28-06, 10:02 AM
Yes, it doesn't go away.

I just pick one today. It's going back. The picture is not that much better than my current 480P player, but it does play most of the recored media I put in it.

I'm getting the Toshiba HD DVD player instead.

I guess you will be one of the lucky ones who gets to watch Blazing Saddles and Phantom of the Opera till you drop.....oh wait then there's the Fugitive..

get real man the technology sucks..the players freeze up all the time ..and have trouble with soundtracks...read up on this baby b4 you waste your money....it is already outdated and it just hit the streets......

brezz
05-28-06, 11:56 AM
how does this DVD player look on the Samsung HLS tv's? I'm going to be getting a HLS-5687W and I am trying to decide on which DVD player to get. Thanks for the help!

Brian

Ebbit
05-28-06, 08:48 PM
I am deciding weather to go with the Sony DVP-NS75H or the Sony DVP-NC85H. I heard many people are having problems with the audio on the NC85. Is this the only problem they are receiving? I just ordered a few HDMI wires from online and I’m scared that they will have the dropouts like everyone else and I would have to spend around 50bucks for the real ones. What about the NS75 do they have problems with the cheap HDMI wires?

Why would there be problems with one over the over, they are essentially the same machine right (5 vs. 1)?

Mofongo
05-28-06, 09:32 PM
Does this player have the feature that scales up a 2.39:1 letterboxed movie to vertically fill a 16:9 screen? I am trying out the Oppo, but among other things that I don't like about it is that I have to do a Zoom to fill the screen and that degrades the PQ to my eyes. I was wondering if the Sony has a stretch feature that allows this without loss of PQ.

Also, I heard that when you zoom the 2x sign comes up on the screen and does not go away. Is this true?

Thanks

As far as I have been able to discover, the only players that have the feature that you are looking for are the ones that use the Zoran Vaddis chipset as the decoder (either the Vaddis 6, 7, or 8 series). As far as I know, all of the Samsungs over the last 2 or 3 years use this decoder, and Samsung calls this feature "EZ-View". The new LG DN191H also uses the Vaddis8 decoder, and LG calls this feature by some other name.

Samsung's new blu-ray player will have the Vaddis9 chipset...so it will probably do the zoom thing, too. :)

Mofongo

CPALIU
05-28-06, 09:33 PM
i just picked up this player and my tv samsung hl-s6187w will be arriving tomorrow. Since the native resolution on the screen is 1080p, what will the player auto default to?

akushlan
05-28-06, 10:27 PM
any thoughts on how this player compares with the sony DVP-NS90V?

CT_Wiebe
05-28-06, 11:05 PM
CPALIU -- The default settings (HDMI output) is "Auto" (page 62 of the manual). This will probably default to 1080i for your display (it does not output 1080p - most upscaling DVD player don't either). Page 62 also tells you that you can set the HDMI output to 480p, 720p and 1080i. You should try each setting an see what looks the best.

akushlan -- The NS75H uses the latest version of Sony's video processing chips (the NS90V uses an older version). The NS90V plays SACD discs, the NS75H does not, but it does play Divx discs and the NS90V does not. So you win some and lose some. If you have the NS90V and it's working to your satisfaction, there is no need to "upgrade", IMHO.

RicFlair
05-28-06, 11:42 PM
CPALIU -- The default settings (HDMI output) is "Auto" (page 62 of the manual). This will probably default to 1080i for your display (it does not output 1080p - most upscaling DVD player don't either). Page 62 also tells you that you can set the HDMI output to 480p, 720p and 1080i. You should try each setting an see what looks the best.

akushlan -- The NS75H uses the latest version of Sony's video processing chips (the NS90V uses an older version). The NS90V plays SACD discs, the NS75H does not, but it does play Divx discs and the NS90V does not. So you win some and lose some. If you have the NS90V and it's working to your satisfaction, there is no need to "upgrade", IMHO.
What exactly is an SACD disc? Is there a chance I won't be able to play some movies if I buy this?

sufan
05-29-06, 08:13 AM
I am considering the nc85 and the ns75h. I have tried to read through most of the posts but the different configuration options for HiDef and Home Theater is enough to make my head spin!!

Anyway, I would appreciate any help or answers to the following:

1. Do these players work well for CD's, MP3's etc? I read somewhere the NC85 doesn't shuffle songs between discs so if that's the case I would opt for the smaller ns75H.

2. I have an Onkyo reciever and Toshiba 1080p DLP with HDMI and am using a cable card. The TV is connected to the receiver's Optical input and the speakers on my TV are turned off. There is a remaining available digital coaxial input on the receiver.

-Should I use an HDMI cable from the DVD player to the TV for both video and audio?
-Should I use the Digital input on the receiver for DVD's and for playing CD's?

Thanks for any help.

zrdb
05-29-06, 01:44 PM
Use the hdmi for the video to the tv, use an optical or coaxial digitial cable to the reciever for the audio.

CT_Wiebe
05-30-06, 04:36 AM
sufan -- To answer your question #1, yes they will play CDs and MP3s. I have the NS75H, but I believe your recollection about the shuffle play on the NC85H is correct.

RicFlair -- SACD = Super Audio CD. It's a high quality surround sound version of regular CDs. This format never really caught on, but for those that have SACD discs, they put out sound that's hard to beat.

waiting485
05-30-06, 10:04 AM
The NS75H uses the latest version of Sony's video processing chips (the NS90V uses an older version). The NS90V plays SACD discs, the NS75H does not, but it does play Divx discs and the NS90V does not. So you win some and lose some. If you have the NS90V and it's working to your satisfaction, there is no need to "upgrade", IMHO.


Are you sure NS75H plays DivX discs ?? I saw the manual and it is not mentioned any where that it can play Divx .

gene9p
05-30-06, 10:27 AM
What exactly is an SACD disc? Is there a chance I won't be able to play some movies if I buy this?
sacd's are super audio cd's..a higher priced cd technology that never really took off..you can see them in your local stores...they usually cost a few bucks more than a regular cd..but you must have a cd player or dvd player that is sacd compatible to play them

DarrinH
05-30-06, 04:11 PM
I purchased this player and mine IS exibiting the 1" vertical shift for movies that are 2:35:1. The problem is the overscan of the player is 1% on the top and 2.5% on the bottom so the center of the image is not where it is supposed to be. I discovered this using Avia's test patterns.
The problem is that on my Panasonic PT-L500U you can not change the horizontal and vertical offsets for the DVI input. So I ordered a service manual in hopes that I can change this and makeup for the DVD players problem.
Also of note, the pixel cropping is zero on the left and right, 4 on the top and 9 on the bottom. So I actually see more of the image (for full 16X9 a.r.) on three sides and less on the bottom than my old Sony progressive player. This helps to work against the overscan problem for the 1.85:1 movies. I measured fixed objects on an image for my old and new player and ended up with 3/8" more on the top, 7/8" more on the left, 1" more on the right, and 1/4" less on the bottom.

Grayson73
05-30-06, 04:28 PM
Any thoughts on CD playback quality on this DVD player?

zrdb
05-30-06, 07:52 PM
Are you sure NS75H plays DivX discs ?? I saw the manual and it is not mentioned any where that it can play Divx .Which version-the canadian or us one?

CT_Wiebe
05-30-06, 08:31 PM
I have the US one. waiting485 -- I thought it did, but you're right, there is no mention of Divx capability in either the on-line or printed manual (or on the carton or the sticky ad on the player itself). I guess I misread what others were saying, and didn't double check after I got it.

Grayson73 -- Others have reported that it is very good. I haven't tried that yet on mine. I'll see if I can stick in my Telarc Demo CD tonight, that should be a good test.

zrdb
05-30-06, 08:36 PM
There a new Philips model that can play just about everything and it's only 54 bucks at Walmart and the video dacs are as good as the LG's.

sufan
05-30-06, 09:23 PM
Thanks for the replies to my posts. One other question, should video adjustments be made on the TV or the DVD player if it has that capability? Does one over ride the other? Thanks again.

ChrisCollins
05-30-06, 09:49 PM
Any idea how this unit compares to the new Oppo 970?

WaldorfSalad
05-30-06, 10:44 PM
Take a look at the new Oppo 970 Brain Dump thread. Looks like they are comparable.

Grayson73
05-31-06, 09:52 AM
Grayson73 -- Others have reported that it is very good. I haven't tried that yet on mine. I'll see if I can stick in my Telarc Demo CD tonight, that should be a good test.

Great! Look forward to your findings. I'd like to know whether it is worth it to buy a dedicated CD player.

Grayson73
05-31-06, 10:33 AM
Also, has anyone compared sound quality of Digital Coax vs. Optical?

gwsmith
05-31-06, 12:45 PM
Also, has anyone compared sound quality of Digital Coax vs. Optical?I can discern no difference whatsoever. I like the thinner optical cable.

gwsmith
05-31-06, 12:52 PM
Great! Look forward to your findings. I'd like to know whether it is worth it to buy a dedicated CD player.IMO, a good CD *changer* is worth having. My 6-CD changer can be programmed for an evening of random music selections. I have no use for a DVD changer, as I am not a "serial movie watcher".

arveugenio
05-31-06, 01:07 PM
Guys, a lot of the threads here show that the Sony dvp-ns75h has overcomed its predecessor especially in relation to the upshift problem. I'm good to go except that one commented that since this unit saves your disc information in memory (as the player can recall 40 dvds and start where it has left off), you should leave the player to do something else...

Does anyone here know how long it takes the sony to do that? How many seconds or minutes??!!! Can you turn off this feature so that it doesn't take long to start playing a disc?

WaldorfSalad
05-31-06, 02:05 PM
Can you turn off this feature so that it doesn't take long to start playing a disc?Yes, its a setup option and is described in the manual.

zrdb
05-31-06, 08:29 PM
I like the player to remember where the disc stopped so I don't have to.

boostfrenzy
05-31-06, 09:50 PM
I just hooked this player up, forgive me for not reading ALL 36 pages, but I chose "auto" resolution (hdmi, 32" lcd), enabled all the digital audio features (coaxial audio) and set cinema 1, bnr/mnr on... does it automatically do the upconvert? (progressive is set to on)

boostfrenzy
05-31-06, 09:54 PM
also, do i want YCbCr opposed to RGB for output? (both work fine, connected HDMI)

gene9p
06-01-06, 08:34 AM
I just hooked this player up, forgive me for not reading ALL 36 pages, but I chose "auto" resolution (hdmi, 32" lcd), enabled all the digital audio features (coaxial audio) and set cinema 1, bnr/mnr on... does it automatically do the upconvert? (progressive is set to on)


yes but only if you are using an hdmi cable..otherwise you get 480p through the components

boostfrenzy
06-01-06, 08:43 AM
yes i'm using hdmi, i'm supposed to have the output set to YCbCr right? (and not rgb)

also, i have a 32" rca lcd with a native resolution of 1366x768, should i try the 480p output too over hdmi just to see if the tv's scaler is indeed better?

teddyc23
06-01-06, 11:04 AM
Hello everyone. I just purchased this Sony DVD Player. I should have it on friday. I currently have a Toshiba 51HX93 rear projection CRT using DVI. Just curious what settings eveyone is using to get a good picture. (Pass BTB and eliminate white crush) I will be using AVIA to calibrate it. Also is anyone using the noise reduction? Thanks

Teddy

Bailey151
06-01-06, 11:59 AM
It's really display dependant - it's pretty much trial & error to find what works best for your display. For example mine seems to prefer 1080i even though the display is closer to 720p native (1024x768) - go figure. Not sure about the other settings but Cinema1 passes BTB.

Zipplemeyer
06-01-06, 05:37 PM
Is there a lot of video noise with this player or is it pretty smooth? I have the Panasonic S52 and while it is very detailed and colorful it also has a noisy, sort of grainy picture. Has anyone compared these side by side on a big front pj screen? Thanks.

Moe

samus_aran_iv
06-01-06, 05:50 PM
Hi, guys. I bought this player the other day and have a question..

I am using the player's HDMI output to the HDMI port on my Samsung HP-S4253. I then have a digital coaxial audio cable running from the out port on the TV to my set of speakers (Logitech Z-5500). When I play a DVD with 5.1 channel digital sound, the console on the speakers does not detect a digital signal. The HDMI cable preserves up to 8 channels of digital sound, correct? I'm taking the sound through a digital cable from the DVD player to the TV, and then from the TV to the digital decoder via a DIGITAL coax cable, so all should be good, right?? Digital sound output is setup on both the DVD player and the TV. If I run the coax cable directly from the player to the coax port on the speaker console, I get a digital signal.

Any suggestions??

gene9p
06-01-06, 08:12 PM
Hi, guys. I bought this player the other day and have a question..

I am using the player's HDMI output to the HDMI port on my Samsung HP-S4253. I then have a digital coaxial audio cable running from the out port on the TV to my set of speakers (Logitech Z-5500). When I play a DVD with 5.1 channel digital sound, the console on the speakers does not detect a digital signal. The HDMI cable preserves up to 8 channels of digital sound, correct? I'm taking the sound through a digital cable from the DVD player to the TV, and then from the TV to the digital decoder via a DIGITAL coax cable, so all should be good, right?? Digital sound output is setup on both the DVD player and the TV. If I run the coax cable directly from the player to the coax port on the speaker console, I get a digital signal.

Any suggestions??
use the digital output from your dvd player and hook it up directly to the logitech input...the digital output of the tv is only for the ota tuner that picks up hdtv over the air waves and sends the digital sound to your receiver ....it is not for sound put into the tv by an external scource other than the built in hdtv tuner

samus_aran_iv
06-01-06, 08:23 PM
I was not aware of that. Thanks a ton for your advice!

iforbes
06-01-06, 10:28 PM
Have there been any firmware updates for the Sony DVP-NS75H? If there have, do any of you have a link to the update and/or any update instructions?

Thanks!
Ian

zrdb
06-02-06, 08:03 AM
From what I understand Sony doesn't belive in releasing firmware updates to the public.

anger
06-02-06, 02:15 PM
anyone with the NS75 or NC85 hooked up to a westinghouse LCD TV?

if so any color issues via HDMI? there isnt a setting in the Westinghouse options for changing SD/HD matrix's

Supermans
06-02-06, 02:24 PM
Have there been any firmware updates for the Sony DVP-NS75H? If there have, do any of you have a link to the update and/or any update instructions?

Thanks!
Ian


Why are you asking for a firmaware update on your first post? Are you exhibiting some sort of problem.. I would ask sony to make the zoom 2x sign to go away on an update if I had a choice.

Also, anyone know what MNR and BNR actually do besides what it says in the manual. I don't know what to look for when I turn one or the other feature on.

Teremei
06-02-06, 06:16 PM
So I tried to play a burned dvd-r movie on this. It could not load. So what types of burned discs is this dvd player supposed to beable to play?

mathrandir
06-02-06, 06:52 PM
I've had great success playing all of my burned DVD's on this Sony. I have been able to play DVD-R/-RW/+RW of varying brands. Most of them were burned by the new WalMart/Sam's Magnavox recorder, and a couple on a Pioneer 531. I did have one DVD-R that didn't bring up the menu when I first popped it in the player. It just stayed on the blue sony screen. I thought something was wrong and that it wasn't going to work, but when I pressed play, it played just fine. After I started it playing and then pressed menu and it went to the menu fine. I haven't done any more testing to determine if it was just a glitch, or something that's reproduceable.

CT_Wiebe
06-02-06, 07:28 PM
Teremei -- It might depend on the video format you used (should be MPEG-2 or DVD-Video) and may also depend on what speed you burned them at (using the "Max" speed will not work with cheap DVD-R discs like the ones I use). The NS75H should be able to play DVD-Rs, if they're burned in the right format and at the correct speed.

zrdb
06-02-06, 07:34 PM
My experiance with my 2 Sony players has been "if it won't play on the Sony-it won't play on anything."

samus_aran_iv
06-02-06, 08:09 PM
Sucks that the NS75H doesn't play DIVX/XVID. :(

anger
06-02-06, 08:57 PM
i got owned, DVP-NC85H/B

player looks nice, but its slow, loud, missing functions, I.E. a button to disc skip on the deck without the remote. There was a blue line on the right hand side on some movies unless i used the 37w2 fill mode. I can see the missing green, so did my buddy, when i hooked up my old sony 575 they were back (there isnt a color matrix option on the Westinghouse 37w2), so I will have to take this NC85 back to CC tomorrow, too bad. it was on sale too, i liek the 5 disc, but its too slow and loud.


the blue line showed up on Super Troopers, on the far right of the screen at the very edge, this movie also had a black cropping around it (overscan or underscan i think its called), i could fill the screen with my TV options... but why do that.. my other sony filled screen standard mode, no problems.. only if it was HDMI :(

I did like the remote, lol, and the upscaling looked nice. Just to many other bugs for me to be satisfied.

should i try the Panasonic DVDS52S?

what you guys think?

zrdb
06-02-06, 08:58 PM
Darn right-if it and the 85 did they would be the perfect all in one solution.

RicFlair
06-02-06, 09:00 PM
Dudes I'm lovin this DVD player ...it's awesome...and it does make a big difference IMO...

LawrenceJ
06-03-06, 12:48 AM
i got owned, DVP-NC85H/B

player looks nice, but its slow, loud, missing functions, I.E. a button to disc skip on the deck without the remote. There was a blue line on the right hand side on some movies unless i used the 37w2 fill mode. I can see the missing green, so did my buddy, when i hooked up my old sony 575 they were back (there isnt a color matrix option on the Westinghouse 37w2), so I will have to take this NC85 back to CC tomorrow, too bad. it was on sale too, i liek the 5 disc, but its too slow and loud.


the blue line showed up on Super Troopers, on the far right of the screen at the very edge, this movie also had a black cropping around it (overscan or underscan i think its called), i could fill the screen with my TV options... but why do that.. my other sony filled screen standard mode, no problems.. only if it was HDMI :(

I did like the remote, lol, and the upscaling looked nice. Just to many other bugs for me to be satisfied.

should i try the Panasonic DVDS52S?

what you guys think?


Not to be rude but there is a disk skip button on the deck , its right under the eject button and on the right of the exchange button and above the progressive button.

My wife and I just watched super troopers last night on a vizo 50 inch plasma, no blue lines here. We dont seem to have the underscan or overscan issues either, perhaps you got a bum unit?

What do you have the upcoverting set at in the player btw , that might help the underscan issue.

Its is loud and slow but the price is right :D

tbstbs
06-03-06, 01:27 AM
Thanks to all the posts here, I went yesterday looking for a 75H at Ccity to hook up to the new Panasonic 32" LX60 lcd hd panel via hdmi. They were out of stock. I was sad, until the salesguy said "Would you take the changer for the price of the solo player?" :D

Initially I tried the settings most folks have recommended, but I found that even with sharpness on the Panny set to -30, Sharp 1 on the Sony was too sharp with noticeable haloing in 720p. However with the 85H set to Sharp Off the DVE sharpness setting pattern leads to a sharpness setting of just about 0 on the Panny.

Wow! Very smooth and detailed image, so far have watched SW III and ST Insurrection. Happy Camper here so far!

Oh, I can certainly verify that the Disk skip button on the front panel works just fine.


No odd lines here so far. And no color issues, actually the color seems noticeably more saturated without adding any red push (the Panny does have HD color matrix that locks for the hdmi input).

Widescreen so far is properly framed here.

It does make some noise when switching discs, but otherwise it is quiet enough that any noise is not audible with the tivo hard drive next to it.

Finally, yeah, it is just a bit slow, but it is much faster than getting out of bed 4 more times to change the discs!

anger
06-03-06, 08:07 AM
Not to be rude but there is a disk skip button on the deck , its right under the eject button and on the right of the exchange button and above the progressive button.

My wife and I just watched super troopers last night on a vizo 50 inch plasma, no blue lines here. We dont seem to have the underscan or overscan issues either, perhaps you got a bum unit?

What do you have the upcoverting set at in the player btw , that might help the underscan issue.

Its is loud and slow but the price is right :D


oh thanks, found the skip button, dunno why i didnt see before

it was at 1080i for super troopers, maybe ill try the 720p what resolution did you watch super troopers at?

I dunno i just didnt get the "wow" affect everyone else seems to be getting.

its in the car right now, i was going to take it back today, but maybe ill keep it for a week and mess around with it.

indeed the price was right on the unit.

I wanted to add, that sound was superb from the unit. I dont know if the DVD player really matters.... but coaxil from my old sony unit didnt sound as good.

zrdb
06-03-06, 10:29 AM
I don't think mine is "loud and noisy", it sounds the same as any other 5 disc carasol player I've ever had, as for the pq-it's exceptional.

anger
06-03-06, 02:16 PM
well i swapped out the NC85 for a new one at CC today, no questions asked. :) i love that, seriously a recommendation for CC return services. I like the players appearance, and honestly its not that loud, a little slow, but from what everyone else says, pretty much the norm for dvd disc changers.

the blue bar i saw on Super Troopers is my main concern, but im gonna give it a second shot, im probably just noobed out on configuring the player. :) i'll report my findings... if it matters to anyone :eek:

CT_Wiebe
06-03-06, 03:50 PM
Yes it does matter. I sure hope you had a bad one the first time.

anger
06-03-06, 03:58 PM
Yes it does matter. I sure hope you had a bad one the first time.

cool cool, at work right now, i'll post an update later :)

CT_Wiebe
06-03-06, 04:05 PM
NOTE: The "Wow" effect is more of a reaction to a very good picture rather than anthing spectacular (it also depends on your display - the larger it is, the bigger the "wow" and the improvement is less on displays with excellent internal processing).

LawrenceJ
06-03-06, 11:31 PM
We watched it at at 1080i, for us the it looks shaper and has more pop that 720p ( as silly as it sounds :P )

Episode 3 looks really really good, hell I robot looked sharp as hell also :)

Btw this is coming from a panasonic xp-30 that looked eh, ok on both plasmas we have , but looked very good on an older panasonic RP hdtv.


At any rate Ill be returing the vizio for some other issues, and getting the samsung
HL-S5087W , cant wait to see what this player looks like on that :D

(iam waiting for the hd dvd/ blu-ray to get settled , thats why I picked this player, price and perfomance its all there , but damn my wife really wants an hd-dvd player :cool: )

anger
06-04-06, 09:06 AM
i got owned, DVP-NC85H/B

player looks nice, but its slow, loud, missing functions, I.E. a button to disc skip on the deck without the remote. There was a blue line on the right hand side on some movies unless i used the 37w2 fill mode. I can see the missing green, so did my buddy, when i hooked up my old sony 575 they were back (there isnt a color matrix option on the Westinghouse 37w2), so I will have to take this NC85 back to CC tomorrow, too bad. it was on sale too, i liek the 5 disc, but its too slow and loud.


the blue line showed up on Super Troopers, on the far right of the screen at the very edge, this movie also had a black cropping around it (overscan or underscan i think its called), i could fill the screen with my TV options... but why do that.. my other sony filled screen standard mode, no problems.. only if it was HDMI :(

I did like the remote, lol, and the upscaling looked nice. Just to many other bugs for me to be satisfied.

ok, so with a little more patience and after reading a bit more about "upscaling" players and possibly expecting a little less out of the player than originally.

I'd say the sony NC85 is pretty nice. Like i said i already liked it, just had some initial jerk reactions.

The only other option in my price range was the sammy or panny models, and IMO they look poorly made. The Sony, a beast of a machine, still looks well made.

however, swapping out the unit, did not resolve the blue line and black underscan cropping for me on Super Troopers, (1080i) changing the resolution to 720p resolves the problem.

I went thru about 20 dvds last night and was not able to reproduce the issue. so maybe its just the back-up im using (however other back-ups, 1.85 aspect, same media, back up production style, at 1080i doesnt show this problem), Gonna try the original, currently misplaced, copy tonight.

It still seems slow, but I've never had a 5 disc DVD changer so I really dont have anything to base that off of except my single disc players...

Like i said i found the disc skip on the player, and the disc swapping works great.

The "color issues" i think were in my head. Once i matched up Sony "Display modes" (dynamic 1) the color looked the same on both players. Also. I think i am correct in saying that if that problem were to be present on the TV, i would only see it with a HDMI to DVI connection. Colors look the same s-video or hdmi so thats cool.

One thing to note. There is MARKED improvment from my prior S-video Connection to the new HDMI. I'm actually pretty happy about the DVD player now.

One feature my girlfriend immediately liked was the customizable "memory" display mode.

Audio seems outstanding.

so in the end my NC85 and Westinghouse 37w2 make a good match via HDMI.

btw i'm not talking to myself, just quoted my incorrect statements :D

anger
06-04-06, 09:17 AM
(iam waiting for the hd dvd/ blu-ray to get settled , thats why I picked this player, price and perfomance its all there , but damn my wife really wants an hd-dvd player :cool: )

same reason I got this player also, wanted HDMI, and many features.

I am hoping that maybe in 1.5 years.... Blue Ray and HD-DVD players "will be one" with eachother and only cost 150$ bux for a player!

fortunate for me, my girlfriend barely knows what HD-DVD is :eek: cuz my wallet knows i'm not going to pay 500$ for that thing. we'll see i guess, it might be better off for me to get an internal PC HD-DVD drive when they are available and get an HDMI vid card and go HTPC.

WaldorfSalad
06-04-06, 01:19 PM
ok, so with a little more patience and after reading a bit more about "upscaling" players and possibly expecting a little less out of the player than originally.

I'd say the sony NC875 is pretty nice. Like i said i already liked it, just had some initial jerk reactions.

The only other option in my price range was the sammy or panny models, and IMO they look poorly made. The Sony, a beast of a machine, still looks well made.

however, swapping out the unit, did not resolve the blue line and black underscan cropping for me on Super Troopers, (1080i) changing the resolution to 720p resolves the problem.

I went thru about 20 dvds last night and was not able to reproduce the issue. so maybe its just the back-up im using (however other back-ups, 1.85 aspect, same media, back up production style, at 1080i doesnt show this problem), Gonna try the original, currently misplaced, copy tonight.

It still seems slow, but I've never had a 5 disc DVD changer so I really dont have anything to base that off of except my single disc players...

Like i said i found the disc skip on the player, and the disc swapping works great.

The "color issues" i think were in my head. Once i matched up Sony "Display modes" (dynamic 1) the color looked the same on both players. Also. I think i am correct in saying that if that problem were to be present on the TV, i would only see it with a HDMI to DVI connection. Colors look the same s-video or hdmi so thats cool.

One thing to note. There is MARKED improvment from my prior S-video Connection to the new HDMI. I'm actually pretty happy about the DVD player now.

One feature my girlfriend immediately liked was the customizable "memory" display mode.

Audio seems outstanding.

so in the end my NC875 and Westinghouse 37w2 make a good match via HDMI.

btw i'm not talking to myself, just quoted my incorrect statements :DDo you mean the NC85 and not NC875?

anger
06-04-06, 01:48 PM
Do you mean the NC85 and not NC875?

lol too many model numbers here.... :( yea i had NC85 in there then i changed it lol i dunno y, i think i thought i typo'd.

i have since repaired my repairs or edited my edits, thx

WaldorfSalad
06-04-06, 02:06 PM
lol too many model numbers here.... :( yea i had NC85 in there then i changed it lol i dunno y, i think i thought i typo'd.

i have since repaired my repairs or edited my edits, thxNo prb. I have an NC85 that I'm overall very happy with. Sure, it takes a while (longer than I would like) to load/change discs and is mechanically noisy doing it but there is no mechanical noise when watching a disc. On the plus side, the NC85 is much faster and queiter loading/changing discs than the Yamaha models.

teddyc23
06-04-06, 02:32 PM
Just wanted to chime in. Just recieved the 75H. Wow what a picture. I have a Toshiba 51HX93 (RPTV CRT). Before I was using a Panasonic S97. I realized after using the sony, I have been having Macroblocking issues with the S97 and didnt even know it. Some DVDs that were kinda blocky in dark scenes, were incrediably smooth and detailed on the Sony. Buying the Faroujia based player I thought I was getting the best. I would say the Sony is better on film based stuff than the S97 and is decent for video based stuff. (Which somethimes look like crap anyway.)


Teddy

zyad
06-04-06, 06:39 PM
Sorry for this question guys, but I got up to page 18 of this thread, and didn't see an answer to my question, and I'm kind of too busy to read the entire thread.
My friend bought this player to go with his new 50" Sony LCD RP KFE TV, and I'm supposed to help him set up his home theatre. My question is:
Is there a firmware hack available to activate upconversion through component on this player? As many of you know, the TV in question only has 1 HDMI input, and he kind of wanted to use that for his cable STB (DVI from a Motorola). Personally, I have done this type of firmware hack for my LG LD-531 DVD player by simply downloading and unzipping a dertain folder (from LG's website) and burning it on a disc and putting that disc into the player, which gave me access to setup menus that de-activated the original restriction on upconverting copyrighted DVDs though component.

If any of you know of such a firmware hack for this Sony, please let me know!

WaldorfSalad
06-04-06, 07:28 PM
Short answer: No.

jrkarp
06-04-06, 08:15 PM
Sorry for this question guys, but I got up to page 18 of this thread, and didn't see an answer to my question, and I'm kind of too busy to read the entire thread.
My friend bought this player to go with his new 50" Sony LCD RP KFE TV, and I'm supposed to help him set up his home theatre. My question is:
Is there a firmware hack available to activate upconversion through component on this player? As many of you know, the TV in question only has 1 HDMI input, and he kind of wanted to use that for his cable STB (DVI from a Motorola). Personally, I have done this type of firmware hack for my LG LD-531 DVD player by simply downloading and unzipping a dertain folder (from LG's website) and burning it on a disc and putting that disc into the player, which gave me access to setup menus that de-activated the original restriction on upconverting copyrighted DVDs though component.

If any of you know of such a firmware hack for this Sony, please let me know!

Just have him get an HDMI switch. He's going to need the ability to have multiple HDMI sources in the near future, with PS3, HDDVD/BluRay, etc.

zrdb
06-04-06, 08:26 PM
And considering that they (hdmi switchboxs) can be gotten for as little as 25 bucks-that's the way to go.

ccoop44
06-04-06, 11:31 PM
If you use an HDMI switchbox, will it decrease the quality of video/sound that your cable box or dvd player puts out? Or is it just as good as going straight from the HDMI input in the TV to the box or player?

zyad
06-04-06, 11:46 PM
Well, the HDMI cable itself is carrying pure data, so there should be no loss of quality whatsoever, since a data connection either works or it doesn't (there's no in-between).

jrkarp, the HDMI switch was already a suggestion I made to him. monoprice is the cheapest around for those. But when browsing their site, I also ran into another kind of cable that I have never seen used. DVI on one end, and Component on the other end. Does anyone have any experience with this type of cable? How is the picture quality compared to regular component-component type of cable? My friend's cable box is a Motorola that has DVI out (not HDMI), and I'm thinking that this DVI-Component cable might be a good idea.

Mofongo
06-05-06, 01:03 AM
I doubt that that cable will work with the DVI output of your cable box. The DVI standard permits both analog and digital connections. The idea is that a single connector can be used for either kind of signal. A cable that can carry analog only is DVI-A, and digital only is DVI-D. If it has the capacity to carry either, it is DVI-I. There is a slight difference in the pin connections for each type. See this site for a more detailed guide. (http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html)

If you buy an HDMI->DVI cable, for example, you will notice that the DVI connector is DVI-D, since HDMI is digital only.

It is rare that a video device will output both analog and digital. It is usually one or the other. This cable is designed for devices with DVI ports that can input or output analog DVI in YPbPr format (although if you look at the picture of the monoprice connector, it is a DVI-I dual link...why this is, I have *no* idea). I do not know for sure that the Motorola cable box cannot output DVI-A (much less component values and not RGB), but I would bet heavily against it.

Mofongo

LongRufus
06-05-06, 01:26 AM
Sorry for this question guys, but I got up to page 18 of this thread, and didn't see an answer to my question, and I'm kind of too busy to read the entire thread.
My friend bought this player to go with his new 50" Sony LCD RP KFE TV, and I'm supposed to help him set up his home theatre. My question is:
Is there a firmware hack available to activate upconversion through component on this player? As many of you know, the TV in question only has 1 HDMI input, and he kind of wanted to use that for his cable STB (DVI from a Motorola). Personally, I have done this type of firmware hack for my LG LD-531 DVD player by simply downloading and unzipping a dertain folder (from LG's website) and burning it on a disc and putting that disc into the player, which gave me access to setup menus that de-activated the original restriction on upconverting copyrighted DVDs though component.

If any of you know of such a firmware hack for this Sony, please let me know!

If your friend is planning on using Motorola 6412 or 3412 DVR, you might want to hold off on any switcher or cable purchases until after you give component a try. The general consensus over at the 6412 thread is that there is no difference in PQ between HDMI and component. I tried them both on my XBR960 CRT and couldn't see any difference. As a result, my 70H gets HDMI and my 6412 gets component. The PQ for both are outstanding.

zyad
06-05-06, 05:04 AM
I doubt that that cable will work with the DVI output of your cable box. The DVI standard permits both analog and digital connections. The idea is that a single connector can be used for either kind of signal. A cable that can carry analog only is DVI-A, and digital only is DVI-D. If it has the capacity to carry either, it is DVI-I. There is a slight difference in the pin connections for each type. See this site for a more detailed guide. (http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html)

If you buy an HDMI->DVI cable, for example, you will notice that the DVI connector is DVI-D, since HDMI is digital only.

It is rare that a video device will output both analog and digital. It is usually one or the other. This cable is designed for devices with DVI ports that can input or output analog DVI in YPbPr format (although if you look at the picture of the monoprice connector, it is a DVI-I dual link...why this is, I have *no* idea). I do not know for sure that the Motorola cable box cannot output DVI-A (much less component values and not RGB), but I would bet heavily against it.

Mofongo



OK, thanks for the reply. I found it weird when I saw the cable with DVI-I and component. I though to myself: Digital in and analogue out? how? But I don't know as much about the subject as others here.

tbstbs
06-05-06, 06:24 AM
As promised my HDMI settings using the Sony DVP NC85H changer upsampling to 720p with the 32" PanasonicTC32LX60. The Sony is set to mode Cinema 2, Sharpening Off, BNR Off, MNR Off.

The environment is a completely dark room with the single 6' rope light coil laying behind the set.

The sets settings are Cinema mode, Warm Color Temp, AI Off, NR on, Light Black Level, BackLight -30 Picture -10 Brightness -18 Color -8 Tint 0 Sharpness -10. (And I did just fix the other color saturations in service menu, full discussion is in the Plasma and LCD forum).

Picture can go significantly higher if more contrast range is needed (upto maybe 22-24 if I had to guess), I just have it that low for dark room viewing comfort.

The Sharpness is how far down I had to go to remove all hints of edge halo's. Many here have been setting their player's sharpening to "1", but even with the Panny's Sharp set to -30 it is too sharp and artifacty. With the current settings and player things are really looking tack sharp but very smooth.

All settings were made with DVE and/or the new Monster/ISF disc and verified with The Fifth Element. :)

Vipper IV
06-05-06, 09:33 AM
Does anyone have one of these connected to the Westinghouse LVM-42w2 monitor? If so, is the picture noticeably better than it is with a standard progressive scan DVD player? Because of my purchase of the Westy, I have a good deal of Reward Zone coupons coming my way, and I was thinking of getting this player. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

sd72667
06-05-06, 09:53 AM
tbstbs, I also just bought the Sony DVP NC85H changer. I got it at CC and was $15 off the reg price. I actually was looking for a 5 disc changer that could do upconverting for movies and replace my 10 year old cd 5 disc changer. I am waiting for the HDMI cable to arrive. I have all of my components hidden in my closet, so noise is not an issue. I have it hooked up via component to my Panny plasma. Maybe we need to start a new thread about this new player.

JFISHER
06-05-06, 04:09 PM
I have not been able to find anything on this in the thread so does the NS75H output Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS over the HDMI? I would like to hook the player up to a receiver via HDMI to get the Dolby Digital 5.1 and then pass the pic from the Receiver to the HDTV via HDMI. I know that I can run the HDMI directly to the HDTV and the digital sound to the Reciever but would like to get the full value of the HDMI connection.

Thanks

kurt_fire
06-05-06, 04:45 PM
I have not been able to find anything on this in the thread so does the NS75H output Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS over the HDMI? I would like to hook the player up to a receiver via HDMI to get the Dolby Digital 5.1 and then pass the pic from the Receiver to the HDTV via HDMI. I know that I can run the HDMI directly to the HDTV and the digital sound to the Reciever but would like to get the full value of the HDMI connection.

Thanks
Yes, you can do it as described (if you TV is capable of doing so). Although, the way you want to do it will require 2 HDMI cables. The other way requires only 1 HDMI cable and 1 toslink. Toslinks cost less than HDMI.

figure8
06-05-06, 05:22 PM
I have not been able to find anything on this in the thread so does the NS75H output Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS over the HDMI? I would like to hook the player up to a receiver via HDMI to get the Dolby Digital 5.1 and then pass the pic from the Receiver to the HDTV via HDMI. I know that I can run the HDMI directly to the HDTV and the digital sound to the Reciever but would like to get the full value of the HDMI connection.

Thanks
Yes, I am using mine with a JVC 402b reciever and my JVC 61" tv this way. Phil

zrdb
06-05-06, 05:33 PM
Yes, I am using mine with a JVC 402b reciever and my JVC 61" tv this way. Phil
That's the best way to do it-run the video to the tv with the hdmi cable and the audio to the reciever with with an optical or coaxial digitial cable.

ChrisCollins
06-05-06, 08:28 PM
I have been trying to catch up here, has anyone compared this unit to the Panasonic s77

kman484
06-05-06, 11:18 PM
I just purchased this unit, having been led by various comments and reviews to believe that its picture quality would be a step up from my Samsung DVD-HD950. The comparison was an interesting one. I viewed both players on a Dell 42-inch plasma and set both players for 1080 resolution and 16 by 9 screen size but otherwise used their default picture settings. I found the Sony to yield a tad sharper image with slightly crisper contrast, but nothing on the order of a night-and-day difference (and the difference I did note might have been due as much to the default settings as to the inherent properties of the players). On the other hand, the Samsung's very slightly softer presentation struck me as more natural--somehow a bit easier on the eyes and subtly less hot and hyped than the Sony. My guess is that the Sony would score higher on various tech tests than the Samsung--maybe even trounce it--but a casual viewer sitting 8-10 feet from a good plasma would not be struck by any differences dramatic enough to feel deprived by the Samsung or humbled by the Sony. In fact, aesthetic considerations might trump technical ones, as they did in my case, and lead to a slight preference for the Samsung's very marginally less sharp but "easier" image quality. The lesson for me here is this: don't entirely trust the impressions or opinions of others, whether they emanate from ordinary users or professional reviewers. Make every effort that you can to view players in controlled comparisons, and leave the final verdict to your own eyes.

narcispy
06-06-06, 05:02 PM
I picked this up today as a replacement from a Pioneer progressive scan dv-270. I had it hooked up though component to my tv which upscales in 480i to 960i though the tv modes. When I hooked up the NS75H I noticed the picture was already somewhat better, I knew it would be because the video processor is better. I have been playing around with it for a while and I think the HDMI does make a bit of difference, have it set to 1080i now though it and it looks pretty clean, the sharpness setting grains up the picture too much for my taste so I leave it off. As far as the audio is concered I have been using digital coax out and compared to my Pioneer I don't think it's as good in that aspect. I'll have to try optical to see if that makes a difference.

Itsdon
06-06-06, 05:29 PM
I picked this up today as a replacement from a Pioneer progressive scan dv-270. I had it hooked up though component to my tv which upscales in 480i to 960i though the tv modes. When I hooked up the NS75H I noticed the picture was already somewhat better, I knew it would be because the video processor is better. I have been playing around with it for a while and I think the HDMI does make a bit of difference, have it set to 1080i now though it and it looks pretty clean, the sharpness setting grains up the picture too much for my taste so I leave it off. As far as the audio is concered I have been using digital coax out and compared to my Pioneer I don't think it's as good in that aspect. I'll have to try optical to see if that makes a difference.

Audio is actually this units strong point. Have you been through the menus to kick it up from its default 48khz to 96khz (assuming you reciever can handle that)? Also, be sure to turn DD and DTS on as they are off by default.

MusicFan
06-06-06, 11:59 PM
I just picked up the NS75H as well, based on some of the positive things people have been saying about it. I don't have it hooked up yet, but will probably do so tomorrow.

Just quickly, though, can someone explain to this newbie what the "shift" problem is? I've heard it mentioned in reference to previous Sony DVD players, but I don't know exactly what it is or how to look for it.

Thanks.

punisherofall
06-07-06, 12:18 AM
I just picked up the NS75H as well, based on some of the positive things people have been saying about it. I don't have it hooked up yet, but will probably do so tomorrow.

Just quickly, though, can someone explain to this newbie what the "shift" problem is? I've heard it mentioned in reference to previous Sony DVD players, but I don't know exactly what it is or how to look for it.

Thanks.

No image shift on ns75h; only on the older model ns70h... I should know I returned the 70 for that problem and got the 75

Itsdon
06-07-06, 01:32 AM
I just picked up the NS75H as well, based on some of the positive things people have been saying about it. I don't have it hooked up yet, but will probably do so tomorrow.

Just quickly, though, can someone explain to this newbie what the "shift" problem is? I've heard it mentioned in reference to previous Sony DVD players, but I don't know exactly what it is or how to look for it.

Thanks.

Basically the shift problem that plagued the 70h was more of a compression problem. The picture would be compressed top and bottom so that there would be an inch or so of black where there would normally be a picture. Strange thing is, the picture was pretty spectacular and didn't appear to be compressed at all. I also had the 70h and returned it for the 75h. No compression now, just the same old spectacular picture.

MusicFan
06-07-06, 01:59 PM
Basically the shift problem that plagued the 70h was more of a compression problem. The picture would be compressed top and bottom so that there would be an inch or so of black where there would normally be a picture. Strange thing is, the picture was pretty spectacular and didn't appear to be compressed at all. I also had the 70h and returned it for the 75h. No compression now, just the same old spectacular picture.

Thank you for the explanation. I'm very glad to know that the 75H doesn't have this problem (and what an odd problem). I can't wait to get the 75H set up -- I'm really looking forward to seeing how well it performs via HDMI.

Itsdon and punisherofall, thanks for replying.

narcispy
06-07-06, 02:33 PM
Audio is actually this units strong point. Have you been through the menus to kick it up from its default 48khz to 96khz (assuming you reciever can handle that)? Also, be sure to turn DD and DTS on as they are off by default.

Yeah I did bump it up to 96khz, I dunno I still think the pioneer sounds quite a bit better in the audio section. Video on the other hand, this does extremely well in, been watching all my superbit's over again and noticing a lot more.

ssen
06-07-06, 02:42 PM
Is there any workaround to remove the 2x 'logo' on the screen when using zoom?

Norrmally I use the zoom of my Panasonic 42PX60U display when I view the movies with 2.39:1 aspect ratio. But for viewing non-english movies that have subtitles, the display zoom cuts off a part of the subtitles and I have to use the dvd players zoom.

Aside from the ridiculous blue 2x sign (they really should have provided an option to turn it off - what were they thinking?), I am afraid of burn-in for my new plasma tv.

I understand that there are no firmware updates and in any case Sony does not provide firmware updates I believe. I was wondering if there are any hacks out there to resolve this. Any inputs anyone?

Thanks

robottik
06-08-06, 09:03 AM
Is there any workaround to remove the 2x 'logo' on the screen when using zoom?

Not that I am aware of. I also like to zoom movies on occassion but found the 2x logo annoying and could not get rid of it. If anyone has a workaround I'd be interested in hearing it.

focker99
06-08-06, 08:42 PM
Does DVP-NS75H provides the capability of outputting S/PDIF while simultaneously outputting HDMI video ?

WaldorfSalad
06-08-06, 11:57 PM
Yes. However, you can not turn off HDMI audio in the player so you'll need to turn it off in the TV if you don't want to hear it through the TV's speakers and the AV receiver. Having both together may result in an echo.

cisc0tek
06-11-06, 12:30 PM
Guy's, I just picked mine up yesterday with the 60" SXRD and it is locking up on almost every DVD I have. It doesnt appear anyone else is having this problem so I may just have a defective one. I am waiting on my HDMI cables so I have it going directly to the TV via component. From what I have read this player doesnt upconvert over componant...only HDMI so I cant comment on picture quality. At this point my friends Oppo looks better on his E50A10 but he is upconverting. I just hope I got a bad unit.

CT_Wiebe
06-11-06, 03:55 PM
It sounds like you have a bad unit - get a replacement. It doesn't upconvert over component (no "legal" ones do) and the PQ is very good over component on my 106" screen with my front projector (the HDMI connection should be better, but my HDMI PJ is broken right now).

cisc0tek
06-12-06, 11:10 AM
Yep, just a bad unit. Exchanged it yesterday and ran it pretty much all day without a problem. Now just waiting on those hdmi cables.

Also, is there anyway to check what resolution Im getting from dvd player? This might be a function of the TV rather the DVD player.

soldonandy
06-12-06, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE=rwestley]For those interested in using the component connection you should save your money and get a lower cost player. The benefit of this and the Oppo are the ability to upscale to 720P and 1080i using the HDMI or DVI output[/QUOTE}

Absolutely not true, the Sony is a solid DVD player via component. In fact, Sony with component looks better than with HDMI on my Panasonic Plasma and LG lcd. Considering that HDMI is display dependent, I wouldn't run out and buy this player because it has HDMI but I would because you know that you are assured solid progressive scan through component. I bought the 85 for the kids in the basement set up, CC had it for $129 today, I hate 3 pound DVD players so the changer appealed to me. It is pretty nice for the money so far, good picture and features.

soldonandy
06-12-06, 09:34 PM
I hooked it up and played with it for the past 2 hours or so. I also have it hooked up via component cables so I could toggle between inputs to see the difference.

I played around with scenes from SPIDERMAN, Fifth ELEMENT SUPERBIT, INCREDIBLES

I must say there is not night and day difference between HDMI and component. I had to watch scenes over and over very carefully to see any differences. Here is what I found:

The HDMI looked the best on my set at 1080i (toshiba dlp 53hm95). The colors seemd more accurate using HDMI, and i did see very slight evidence of increased resolution when I sat about 4 feet away from the TV. At normal viewing distance I could not tell any difference.

My biggest complaint with HDMI is that it seems to also magnify the defects on the DVD as well. On some scenes the component setup looked much smoother. The HDMI had considerable noise in the background and you can see pixels kind of moving around and making the picture kind of shaky. (hard to explain) I also noticed in some dark scenes with HDMI the background looked like a dark jpeg picture that you try to lighten up. I don't know if this is called macroblocking, but it looks as if the background can't be displayed properly and has jagged lines all around it. If someone wants I can call out the exact movie scenes I am referring to.

So to summarize......HDMI was not a night and day difference over component. It did seem to sharpen up hte picture slightly and express more vibrant colors but the picture on average had much more "noise" associate with it. I would have to say the component hookup was definately smoother.

I am not sure if I am going to keep this player or not. I don't know if my expectations were too high or maybe there is a problem with my display. Maybe I just need to tweak some settings but honestly I don't know what else I can try.

My HDMI cable is the 14 dollar one from monoprice (3 feet in length, 24 gauge)

Bravo. I have found the same thing with HDMI, at best it improves some aspects but also weakens others. Theoretically, the all digital thing sounds much better than the reality. The bottom line is that people want to see "night and day" differences so they will, just like I want to hear differences in cables and I do.

PhillyRoom
06-13-06, 02:44 PM
Guys I was trying to decide between the DVP-NS75H or going with the oppo dv-970hd for my samsung 40" lcd...what do you guys think? thanks

JFISHER
06-13-06, 06:04 PM
Guys I was trying to decide between the DVP-NS75H or going with the oppo dv-970hd for my samsung 40" lcd...what do you guys think? thanks

I bought the NS75H just because I could pick it up at best buy and hook it up that night. Also felt like Sony is a good brand and the posts here gave it a good review but everything I read about the oppo has been great customer service and a great pic so I think it would a toss-up. I have to say that I have been impressed with the 75H's picture though it not a night/day improvement over my previous Sony component progressive scan DVD player. I do not think you can wrong with either player.

Tigershark
06-13-06, 07:56 PM
Absolutely not true, the Sony is a solid DVD player via component. In fact, Sony with component looks better than with HDMI on my Panasonic Plasma and LG lcd. Considering that HDMI is display dependent, I wouldn't run out and buy this player because it has HDMI but I would because you know that you are assured solid progressive scan through component.


Any particular ways that component looked better than HDMI on your Panasonic Plasma? My 85H has trouble with shadows on my Maxent Plasma (Panasonic glass). I may have to try component at 480p to see if it looks better than HDMI, although I really bought the 85H for the up-converting aspect.

soldonandy
06-13-06, 08:59 PM
Any particular ways that component looked better than HDMI on your Panasonic Plasma? My 85H has trouble with shadows on my Maxent Plasma (Panasonic glass). I may have to try component at 480p to see if it looks better than HDMI, although I really bought the 85H for the up-converting aspect.

I don't remember although I just recall that it didn't look good. I tried adjusting it every which way, the picture was noisy. Believe me, I wanted to like HDMI and wanted to believe that upscaling to the displays' native resolution would elevate a SD picture another notch closer to hidef. The reality is that on my plasma and lcd, I found myself going back to component, it was so much easier to make the picture look just right. I'd try component if I were you and I wouldn't be surprised if it looks better to you. You'll find plenty of folks here that feel that there is a dramatic difference and you know, maybe on some displays partnered with a certain DVD player, there is an improvement over the user's previous player. HDMI was established first and foremost for copyright reasons and is being sold to the public as a universal improvement when the truth is that it is display dependent at best. To go nuts getting a $100 to $200 "upscaling" DVD player and expect it to do wonders with 480P is beyond me. I'd put a good ol' Denon 2200 (used) with the silicon chip via component against any of your cheap Samsung, Oppo's and Sony's any day. As far as the Sony, I think they are the best of the bunch for the money, half decent build, good features and great progressive scan picture. My 85 looks like a winner so far.

Matrix_Prime
06-13-06, 10:39 PM
I am having a major issue with this player. When I play a DVD, the audio is NOT synched to the video when I hook the player to the TV with the HDMI cable, but it IS synched up when I use standard RCA cables. Any ideas why? The player does have an A/V synch option, which you can set from 0 to 100 ms for delay, but setting this only makes the problem worse, not better. I need to set it to something like -10 or -20, but the player doesn't allow me to set it to a negative number. anyone else experience this? Any ideas on how to fix it? Is this a player, cable or TV problem?

narcispy
06-14-06, 12:09 AM
I am having a major issue with this player. When I play a DVD, the audio is NOT synched to the video when I hook the player to the TV with the HDMI cable, but it IS synched up when I use standard RCA cables. Any ideas why? The player does have an A/V synch option, which you can set from 0 to 100 ms for delay, but setting this only makes the problem worse, not better. I need to set it to something like -10 or -20, but the player doesn't allow me to set it to a negative number. anyone else experience this? Any ideas on how to fix it? Is this a player, cable or TV problem?

I think I have the same exact problem.

WaldorfSalad
06-14-06, 12:23 AM
Questions:
1. Which display?
2. Which DVD(s). Certain ones or all?

I have occassionally experienced lip synch on my NC85 but only after accessing the display menus to tinker with settings. Pressing Stop and then Play seems to fix the problem.

miker104
06-14-06, 12:46 AM
I agree 100% Everytime I have tried HDMI on my samsung hls-5086w or my hitachi 57s500 I went back to the component's every time. I first bought the cheap HDMI cables on ebay and though just by chance maybe they were the problem. WRONG>> I bought a 150.00 dollar brand name cable (quality was super nice) but the picture outcome was the same HORRIBLE>> My brother has also tried my hdmi cables with his Panasonic 50plasma and his sony sxrd, THe outcome was the same with him back to component's. We both have tried the hdmi/dvi with are dish network 811hd boxes and both of us with our dvd players mine is the sony his is samsung there is more noise with the hdmi on all source's. It might be display specific but I have tried it on four very nice tv and never had a good outcome.. Mike .

Matrix_Prime
06-14-06, 06:04 AM
Questions:
1. Which display?
2. Which DVD(s). Certain ones or all?

I have occassionally experienced lip synch on my NC85 but only after accessing the display menus to tinker with settings. Pressing Stop and then Play seems to fix the problem.

1.) Samsung 3082 Slimfit
2.) All of the DVDs I have tried, which included LOTR, The Matrix, The Crow, Back to the Future.

talon_3
06-14-06, 12:35 PM
Hi all,
I have read most of this thread and maybe I missed it, but has anyone compared the NS55 to the NS75? They look like they have the same specs but the 55 doesn't have the HDMI. I ask because I will be using it component only for the next year or so.

Thanks for the information and reviews!

T

Matrix_Prime
06-14-06, 06:35 PM
well I got the audio/video synch problem all worked out, but I have a question about picture quality.

I have a SamSung SlimFit 3082, and this DVD player. THe DVD player is hooked up to the TV via HDMI, and the DVD player is outputting at 1920x1080i at the moment. Now I've tried all of the different HDMI output settings (720p and 480p), and I've also used the component out, and the picture still has "noise" in the darker portions (dark blue, black, etc..) of the picture. I don't know the technical terms, so noise may not be the correct term, but its like a bunch of tiny little particles dancing around in the dark colors on the screen. Any way to get rid of this? Is this an issue with the TV video settings, or the DVD video settings?

Melanotheron
06-14-06, 07:10 PM
What kind of HDMI cable do you have? Sounds like sparkles to me.

Tigershark
06-14-06, 07:54 PM
I don't remember although I just recall that it didn't look good. I tried adjusting it every which way, the picture was noisy. Believe me, I wanted to like HDMI and wanted to believe that upscaling to the displays' native resolution would elevate a SD picture another notch closer to hidef. The reality is that on my plasma and lcd, I found myself going back to component, it was so much easier to make the picture look just right. I'd try component if I were you and I wouldn't be surprised if it looks better to you. You'll find plenty of folks here that feel that there is a dramatic difference and you know, maybe on some displays partnered with a certain DVD player, there is an improvement over the user's previous player. HDMI was established first and foremost for copyright reasons and is being sold to the public as a universal improvement when the truth is that it is display dependent at best. To go nuts getting a $100 to $200 "upscaling" DVD player and expect it to do wonders with 480P is beyond me. I'd put a good ol' Denon 2200 (used) with the silicon chip via component against any of your cheap Samsung, Oppo's and Sony's any day. As far as the Sony, I think they are the best of the bunch for the money, half decent build, good features and great progressive scan picture. My 85 looks like a winner so far.

I will try component tonight and report back. Frankly, I will use whatever looks best. I needed a new DVD player anyway, and the 85H fits my needs for everything else. Funny how my TV came with only 1 HDMI input, which I thought would be a problem, yet my cable box (SA8300HD), my PC (128MB ATI video card), and maybe even this DVD player (85H) all have some problem or another with HDMI. Either its a bad port (I doubt that), or HDMI is not all that it was advertised to be.

nate358
06-14-06, 09:47 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows if the Sony DVP-NS71HP that's sold at Costco is the Sony DVP-NS75H? Looks to be about the same price and looks the same. thanks

soldonandy
06-14-06, 10:35 PM
I will try component tonight and report back. Frankly, I will use whatever looks best. I needed a new DVD player anyway, and the 85H fits my needs for everything else. Funny how my TV came with only 1 HDMI input, which I thought would be a problem, yet my cable box (SA8300HD), my PC (128MB ATI video card), and maybe even this DVD player (85H) all have some problem or another with HDMI. Either its a bad port (I doubt that), or HDMI is not all that it was advertised to be.

Like I said, HDMI may be the answer depending on everything else, but it certainly isn't a given that it is going to help things.

WaldorfSalad
06-14-06, 10:51 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows if the Sony DVP-NS71HP that's sold at Costco is the Sony DVP-NS75H? Looks to be about the same price and looks the same. thanksIt sure does. Plus, according to the Costco listing, it includes a 1.5m HDMI cable!

gwsmith
06-15-06, 02:59 AM
It sure does. Plus, according to the Costco listing, it includes a 1.5m HDMI cable!These units are showing up on Amazon also, with a price at $40 more than the 75H....:confused:

Matrix_Prime
06-15-06, 05:58 AM
What kind of HDMI cable do you have? Sounds like sparkles to me.

They are Philips brand cables that I purchased at Sams Club.

Tigershark
06-15-06, 05:59 AM
These units are showing up on Amazon also, with a price at $40 more than the 75H....:confused:

$40 for a 1.5m cable? That's one expensive HDMI cable.

zrdb
06-15-06, 09:30 AM
I've got news for you guys-an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable- a 15 dollar one works the same as a 100 dollar one.

craftech
06-15-06, 10:11 AM
I've got news for you guys-an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable- a 15 dollar one works the same as a 100 dollar one.
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Maybe within reason. I bought a Philips DVI to HDMI cable at Walmart. It went in a week and a half so I had to return it. I thought at first that it was my player or my projector, but it was the crappy cable.

John

Cobra2001
06-15-06, 03:16 PM
Anyone know of a better place to pick up the DVP-NS75H other than amazon? They have the best price I have seen thus far. Thanks.

MattKaye
06-15-06, 04:21 PM
Anyone know of a better place to pick up the DVP-NS75H other than amazon? They have the best price I have seen thus far. Thanks.

$120 @ circuit city.. if you can get a hold of a 10% off coupon brings it down to $108.

Cobra2001
06-15-06, 04:39 PM
$120 @ circuit city.. if you can get a hold of a 10% off coupon brings it down to $108.

Thanks for the info about CC. I was hoping for a online place so I can avoid having to pay tax. But I'll keep CC in mind and be on the lookout for a 10% off coupon. Thanks again.

Typhoon!
06-15-06, 09:04 PM
Newbie here.
I got mine from Best Buy, great unit.
A question:
My TV has a DVI input only. So I picked up an HDMI to DVI cable and everything seems to work fine except the resolution.
The TV supports up to 1360 x 760. When changing the resolution option on the setup of the DVD player, the resolution on TV never changes. It is only 720 x 480.
Any idea? :confused:

dsanders16
06-15-06, 11:17 PM
Too many pages to seek my answer. will this player upconvert to 720p through the component out, or only with the HDMI?

Itsdon
06-15-06, 11:20 PM
Too many pages to seek my answer. will this player upconvert to 720p through the component out, or only with the HDMI?

HDMI Only

dsanders16
06-15-06, 11:23 PM
HDMI Only
Thank you.

Typhoon!
06-16-06, 12:42 AM
My TV has a DVI input only and the TV supports up to 1360 x 760. When changing the resolution option on the setup of the DVD player, the resolution on TV never changes. It is only 720 x 480.
Any idea?

WaldorfSalad
06-16-06, 12:55 AM
Do you have the Resolution option in the NS75 set to Auto or are you forcing it to 720p or 1080i?

CT_Wiebe
06-16-06, 01:08 AM
What is the input on the TV set to? It might be forcing 480p because that's what it is set to as a default. Check your TV set's owner's manual under Input Settings.

Typhoon!
06-16-06, 03:29 AM
Do you have the Resolution option in the NS75 set to Auto or are you forcing it to 720p or 1080i?

It doesn't matter, whatever the setting is I get the same result. :(


What is the input on the TV set to? It might be forcing 480p because that's what it is set to as a default. Check your TV set's owner's manual under Input Settings.

It's kinda weird, it's locked. Won't let me change the setting. I think that's because the DVD player is set to 720 x 480 and as the result the TV tries to follow the source.

Do you think I should return it?
BTW, I'm using an HDMI to DVI cable, could it be the reason?

Bluewookie
06-16-06, 12:02 PM
Anyone know of a better place to pick up the DVP-NS75H other than amazon? They have the best price I have seen thus far. Thanks.

I got my NS75 from BHPhoto a few weeks ago. If I recall correctly the price was better than Amazon

Tybee
06-16-06, 12:26 PM
I got my NS75 from BHPhoto a few weeks ago. If I recall correctly the price was better than Amazon

CC has the NS85HB for the lowest price I have seen. It was still full MSRP in store, but the price was valid online and you can do in-store pickup. In addition, there's a $15 off $100 Father's Day coupon (though it uses a distinct code that can only be used once, so you'll have to find one in a store or find someone online who has some) floating around that is applicable. That will soon to be followed by a Days of Summer coupon valid starting the last day of June. This is the deal I used and I'm picking it up today.

mogambo
06-16-06, 07:47 PM
if i am not looking for an upconverting dvd player (my new tv is an edtv) is there any good reason for me to get the ns75h over the ns55p?

soldonandy
06-16-06, 09:10 PM
if i am not looking for an upconverting dvd player (my new tv is an edtv) is there any good reason for me to get the ns75h over the ns55p?

No.

Cobra2001
06-16-06, 09:54 PM
CC has the NS85HB for the lowest price I have seen. It was still full MSRP in store, but the price was valid online and you can do in-store pickup. In addition, there's a $15 off $100 Father's Day coupon (though it uses a distinct code that can only be used once, so you'll have to find one in a store or find someone online who has some) floating around that is applicable. That will soon to be followed by a Days of Summer coupon valid starting the last day of June. This is the deal I used and I'm picking it up today.

Thanks Tybee and Bluewookie. I'll keep my eyes peeled. :) I still have some time before my tv arrives so I'm pretty flexible.

byelye
06-16-06, 11:07 PM
Hi All.

Just got myself a HL-S5687W and bought the NS75H to go with it. Hooked it up HDMI, set the resolution to 1080i and poped in Return of the Kings. Looked nice. I A/B'ed with
my older Pioneer DV-373 using component. This looked better...

The detail was identical but the colors of the Pioneer were much clearer. The Sony had an unfortunate green tint to it. I'm using both Monster HDMI and Component so I assume the HDMI cable is not the culprit.

I'll hang on to the cable for future use but the player is going back... Unless I've overlooked the magic button that makes it all utterly brilliant. Have I missed it?

tbstbs
06-17-06, 12:13 AM
Hooked it up HDMI, set the resolution to 1080i and poped in Return of the Kings.

Uh, you did calibrate the display's hdmi input with DVE, Avia or some other such?

Oh, and have you checked out the custom settings for the 75h? You can tweak the green there if you really need to.

tbstbs
06-17-06, 12:35 AM
Typhoon, to me it sounds like your TV might be telling the player over the HDMI cable that it is only capable of recieving 480p or simply not responding to requests.

Under those circumstances the 75h will only send the max rez "allowed" irregardless of the setting on the 75, according to the manual. And yeah, that could be the cable format conversion, If I understand correctly, it needs a legit HDMI connection to upconvert.


It doesn't matter, whatever the setting is I get the same result. :(

It's kinda weird, it's locked. Won't let me change the setting. I think that's because the DVD player is set to 720 x 480 and as the result the TV tries to follow the source.

Do you think I should return it?
BTW, I'm using an HDMI to DVI cable, could it be the reason?

mogambo
06-17-06, 01:01 AM
No.

thank you. that saves me $40.

(i'm assuming an upconverting player will be of no use to me with an edtv--the panasonic th42pwd--with no hdmi board)

gene9p
06-17-06, 08:59 AM
if i am not looking for an upconverting dvd player (my new tv is an edtv) is there any good reason for me to get the ns75h over the ns55p?

the ns75h has both coaxil and an optical outputs for sound which the 55 does not have.....that is important to me since I have several other components hooked up to my lexicon processor and it gives you more options and compatability with your receiver....also the 75h is designed for playback of homemade dl dvds....the 55 is not...though the 55 probably can play them back if you burn them correctly....

Typhoon!
06-17-06, 12:57 PM
Typhoon, to me it sounds like your TV might be telling the player over the HDMI cable that it is only capable of recieving 480p or simply not responding to requests.

I called the tech support and they confirmed that the TV supports high resolutions.

Max. resolution: 1280x768
Supports 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i formats

Under those circumstances the 75h will only send the max rez "allowed" irregardless of the setting on the 75, according to the manual. And yeah, that could be the cable format conversion, If I understand correctly, it needs a legit HDMI connection to upconvert.

Any ways to force higher resolutions?

PhillyRoom
06-17-06, 07:52 PM
just picked this one up from CC to replace the pan s47...for my samsung 4092 LCD...wow...I must say that I was really missing something once I hooked this up to it...picture quality is perfect...$100 well spent...

byelye
06-17-06, 09:55 PM
tbstbs:

Yeah, I tried tweaking my TV's HDMI input but alas...

I did however, not realize that I could control the tint/color from the Sony player itself.
How would I go about doing that? The few menus I can access does not offer such an option. I'd love to try before returning the unit.

Thanks

tbstbs
06-18-06, 01:10 AM
Byelye: It's in the standard setup menu for the dvd player. You have to stop the disc, then hit the display button twice, and for the display mode select MEMORY. You should now be able to adjust contrast/bright/color/HUE there. Hmm...I thought I saw actual RGB controls but I guess not...

Typhoon: From my 85H manual (75 should be the same) "you cannot connect the HDMI OUT jack to DVI jacks that are not HDCP compliant (e.g., DVI jacks on PC displays)". That maybe happening with your setup, it may not be reporting as an HDCP compliant set, thus forcing a non-upscaled display.

It may be possible to use an HDMI processing box designed to filter/etc to eliminate the problem, but that could be an expensive no go too...

It is possible that the player and your set just don't play well together. If that is the case, do please post the model of your set so someone with that set can be warned in the future.

Anyone else have any ideas?

CT_Wiebe
06-18-06, 01:22 AM
I called the tech support and they confirmed that the TV supports high resolutions.

Max. resolution: 1280x768
Supports 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i formats



Any ways to force higher resolutions?
Check your manual, pages 61 through 63 or pages 60 through 62 (depends on the manual version). That shows how to set the output resolution of the NS75H. The default should be "Auto", which would make your display do the chosing.

Unless you got the wrong cable (it should be a HDMI to DVI - I'm not sure this is different from a DVI to HDMI, it shouldn't be), the fact that your display has a DVI input shouldn't be a factor. However, if it's not done correctly, then that could be the problem and you will have to set the NS75H to force the correct output (720p or 1080i).

Also, if your display is not HDCP compliant, then you won't be able to use anything other than 480p. The Sony player requires that the HDMI (or DVI) display be HDCP compliant or it will not send an upconverted signal to the display.

NOTE: You also may have to change your display's settings to force it to 720p or 1080i, also. It almost sounds like the NS75H and your display are each waiting for the other to decide what the display resolution should be - the result is that it just stays at 480p.

tbstbs -- I guess I echoed your response (with different wording). I agree, without information on Typhoon's display, we can't be of much more help.

Typhoon!
06-18-06, 04:56 AM
Thanks for the fedback guys.

Typhoon!
06-18-06, 04:56 AM
This is the whole setup:

TV:
Insignia IS-LCDTV26

Video Functions:

• Supports PAL/NTSC/SECAM video formats
• Supports 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i formats
• Motion adaptive 3D Digital comb filter
• Closed caption and V-chip functions
• Dynamic adaptive smoothing filter
• Dynamic temporal frame-filtering noise reduction
• Dynamic motion and edge adaptive de-interlacing
• 3:2 and 2:2 pull down film modes
• Supports 16:9, 4:3, panorama, zoom, PIP, and POP
• 24-pin DVI/HDCP and computer display
• Fast 16ms response time
• Widescreen aspect ratio
• Max. resolution: 1280x768
.
.
.
Link to full specs page:
http://www.insignia-products.com/t-26inch_lcdtv_specs.aspx

Link to the user manual:
http://www.insignia-products.com/skins/Skin_1/Topics/Drivers//IS-LCDTV26_Manual.pdf

DVD Player:
Sony DVP-NS75H

Cable:
Generic 3ft HDMI to DVI cable
Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2&style=

Typhoon!
06-18-06, 05:07 AM
Typhoon: From my 85H manual (75 should be the same) "you cannot connect the HDMI OUT jack to DVI jacks that are not HDCP compliant (e.g., DVI jacks on PC displays)". That maybe happening with your setup, it may not be reporting as an HDCP compliant set, thus forcing a non-upscaled display.

It may be possible to use an HDMI processing box designed to filter/etc to eliminate the problem, but that could be an expensive no go too...

It is possible that the player and your set just don't play well together. If that is the case, do please post the model of your set so someone with that set can be warned in the future.

Anyone else have any ideas?

I am totally confused.
In 75H user guide, it says the HDMI indicator light won't light up unless it is connected to an HDCP compliant device.
Since it lights up on my 75, I'm assuming the TV is HDCP compliant.

Typhoon!
06-18-06, 05:37 AM
NOTE: You also may have to change your display's settings to force it to 720p or 1080i, also. It almost sounds like the NS75H and your display are each waiting for the other to decide what the display resolution should be - the result is that it just stays at 480p.

The tech support rep says the TV follows the source request.
Also I cannot find any settings for it.

gene9p
06-18-06, 10:45 AM
The tech support rep says the TV follows the source request.
Also I cannot find any settings for it.
try rebooting player by turning it off and unplugging it from the electric outlet for about a minute...if the player was plugged into electric while hooking up cables you can cause the player to misread the cable connections per Sony tech support...if that does not work try a better cable

Tybee
06-18-06, 11:07 AM
I just got the NS75H on Friday and have been very happy with it thus far. I have it connected to a Samsung LCD (LN-S3251D) via HDMI and the audio running via toslink to an old Kenwood VR-407 amp.

Last night I did notice one issue, though I'm not sure it's attributable to the player, the TV, or the DVD itself. I was watching Miyazaki's "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind" and when the titles were transitioning from the THX logo to the first titles on a black background, there were remnants of the THX logo still visible against the black background. Then remnants of those first titles were still visible as it transitioned to the next set. Once color appeared on the screen everything was copacetic. It was just the black background that seemed to have problems. Is this an upconverting issue, the result of poor mastering, an incorrect setting somewhere, or what? We watched "Match Point" earlier in the weekend, and being a Woody Allen movie, there were plenty of white titles on a black background, with no noticeable issues.

I have the player output set to 1080i.

sbrowne
06-18-06, 01:51 PM
I just discovered a neat feature which is absent in earlier DVPs I've owned. When you press <STOP> and then turn the unit off, it will automatically bookmark the place on the DVD you stopped at. When you turn the unit back on and press <PLAY> it will ask if you want to start at this point.

I have all the elements of my home theater system on an AC on/off strip, so when I shut it down there is not even residual "sleep" power. The DVP-NS75H must have improved flash memory, because it remembers the bookmark without ANY power.

SBB

Tybee
06-18-06, 03:26 PM
I just discovered a neat feature which is absent in earlier DVPs I've owned. When you press <STOP> and then turn the unit off, it will automatically bookmark the place on the DVD you stopped at. When you turn the unit back on and press <PLAY> it will ask if you want to start at this point.

I have all the elements of my home theater system on an AC on/off strip, so when I shut it down there is not even residual "sleep" power. The DVP-NS75H must have improved flash memory, because it remembers the bookmark without ANY power.

SBB

Yep. Not only that, but it will remember the starting place even after you take the disc out! The next time you put it in, it will ask you if you want to resume from where you last stopped the film. Not sure how many discs the 75 can remember this information for, I believe the 85 does it for up to six.

Doksoul
06-18-06, 04:22 PM
BTW I read in the manual it can remember the last 6 DVD starting points...since the last post asked how many it can remember on restart.

I have mine hooked up to my HLR5067W via HDMI. It's replacing a 6 yr older RV-80 Panasonic. The Pannie had wavy lines...on certain strong vertical lines and muted color compared to the Sony. Like on the scan of the colosseum in gladiator, the vertical risers on the columns wiggled. The sony has none of this and smooth looking rendering with strong colors...much more real colors than the very old pannie. Setup was easy. I ran Avia and tuned the TV to the player. I have noticed a few times on the rented disks that I was using that the player would not recognize them as a disk and fail to load. I don't know if its all disks or just rented...will have to see. If I opened and closed the door, then they would load. I not sure if the sound is better or I'm just thinking its better, but it sounds damn good. I have a pioneer elite 24x receiver and Klipsch Heresey's, C5, and 2 - SB3 rears...plus a custom build Tempest 18" 42 gal sub...capable of REAL 18hz lows. On yeah, I have butt shakers attached to the two lounge chairs and sofa run off a separate amp...to control them separately...adds a little more shake without having to overdrive the sub and shake and the pictures off the wall....HA! :) :)

tbstbs
06-18-06, 06:48 PM
Byelye: Actually you don't have to stop the playback to get to that MEMORY setting. But to try flipping to RGB instead of YCrCb (just to see if a different color mode helps) in the toolbox, Custom, you will have to stop playback. Might be worth a try, just to see how it changes things for you.

Doksoul: Congrats on passing on your Genes! :D
I have noticed the 85H changer is sensitive to having the discs placed properly, but I would have expected the single disc to be less fussy about it.

BTW what settings did you choose for the player when you calibrated? I did Cinema-2, SHarpness off, MNR off, BNR off.

mogambo
06-19-06, 12:01 PM
the ns75h has both coaxil and an optical outputs for sound which the 55 does not have.....that is important to me since I have several other components hooked up to my lexicon processor and it gives you more options and compatability with your receiver....also the 75h is designed for playback of homemade dl dvds....the 55 is not...though the 55 probably can play them back if you burn them correctly....

my current dvd player is connected through the optical out. but the coaxial input in my receiver has been sitting unused for 5 years now. since i can get a coaxial cable for less than $10 at monoprice.com it seems to make more sense to get the 55 and not the 75. UNLESS there is some other important quality difference anyone would warn/caution against. again, i don't need hdmi or upconversion, just a very good progressive scan player.

Itsdon
06-19-06, 12:14 PM
I'd spring for the 75H just to future proof your setup. HDMI will be around for quite a few years and if you decide to upgrade your display your new one will probably have this feature. The additional optical output is nice to have. My reciever has both coax and optical in and I like to have choices in how I connect the components.

mogambo
06-19-06, 02:53 PM
I'd spring for the 75H just to future proof your setup. HDMI will be around for quite a few years and if you decide to upgrade your display your new one will probably have this feature. The additional optical output is nice to have. My reciever has both coax and optical in and I like to have choices in how I connect the components.

yeah, the problem is the 75h is only available in silver and everything else in my setup is black.

if there are no other major pq or other differences in quality between the 55 and 75 i think i'll get the 55 for now and get a newer dvd player when/if i do upgrade the display. that probably won't be for another few years, till the dvd format wars have been settled and hd becomes cheaper. the 55 can then move into the bedroom with the edtv.

Tybee
06-19-06, 03:01 PM
yeah, the problem is the 75h is only available in silver and everything else in my setup is black.

if there are no other major pq or other differences in quality between the 55 and 75 i think i'll get the 55 for now and get a newer dvd player when/if i do upgrade the display. that probably won't be for another few years, till the dvd format wars have been settled and hd becomes cheaper. the 55 can then move into the bedroom with the edtv.

The DVP-NC85H/B is 5-disc changer version of the 75 and it does come in black. It has a relatively small footprint (and is very thin) for a changer and is not hard to find for less than the MSRP of the 75H.

Typhoon!
06-20-06, 12:05 AM
Guys, I'm still waiting for help!
Please read my posts on the previous page.

jer88
06-20-06, 09:27 AM
I just purchased this player from Amazon after reading this thread. What a great value while waiting for the format war to be decided! Most of you are suggesting to calibrate after I get the player hooked up. I only have 1 HDMI input on my Samsung DLP and that had a professional ISF calibration a few months ago. Since the DVD player and Satellite will share this connection, do I still need to calibrate? What is the best setting, 720p or 1080i, to upconvert for a Samsung DLP?

Tybee
06-20-06, 09:59 AM
I just purchased this player from Amazon after reading this thread. What a great value while waiting for the format war to be decided! Most of you are suggesting to calibrate after I get the player hooked up. I only have 1 HDMI input on my Samsung DLP and that had a professional ISF calibration a few months ago. Since the DVD player and Satellite will share this connection, do I still need to calibrate? What is the best setting, 720p or 1080i, to upconvert for a Samsung DLP?

I read something in the latest Crutchfield catalog last night that sounded sensible: Because it offers faster refresh (60 fps), they suggest using 720p for sports, action movies, and other rapidly moving material, while 1080i, which offers greater detail at a slower frame rate (30 fps), is better for nature documentaries, dramas, and other material where you have long detailed shots of faces, architecture, landscapes, etc. I would say this primarily applies to a true HD signal rather than an upconverted one, but still something to think about. Personally, I set it to 1080i for display on my Sammy LCD.

gene9p
06-20-06, 10:01 AM
I just purchased this player from Amazon after reading this thread. What a great value while waiting for the format war to be decided! Most of you are suggesting to calibrate after I get the player hooked up. I only have 1 HDMI input on my Samsung DLP and that had a professional ISF calibration a few months ago. Since the DVD player and Satellite will share this connection, do I still need to calibrate? What is the best setting, 720p or 1080i, to upconvert for a Samsung DLP?

The player has a default setting of auto in the custom menu for the hdmi output..I would leave at auto..but if you are not satisfied with picture you can manually set it to 1080i or 720p.....you can go to display mode and pick the picture quality you prefer..i use cinema 1 for my panny plasma and have the sharpness settings to 1... you can also pick the memory settings in the picture mode and adjust the video quality the way you like via the dvd player with messing the professional calibration of set

hope this helps

Itsdon
06-20-06, 10:48 AM
I just purchased this player from Amazon after reading this thread. What a great value while waiting for the format war to be decided! Most of you are suggesting to calibrate after I get the player hooked up. I only have 1 HDMI input on my Samsung DLP and that had a professional ISF calibration a few months ago. Since the DVD player and Satellite will share this connection, do I still need to calibrate? What is the best setting, 720p or 1080i, to upconvert for a Samsung DLP?

First rule of thumb for picture quality is "go native if possible". Most Samsung DLP sets are 720P (unless you have a recent 1080P model) and as such, I'd run the Sony at 720P. The less scaling (no matter how good) the better.

soldonandy
06-20-06, 02:02 PM
First rule of thumb for picture quality is "go native if possible". Most Samsung DLP sets are 720P (unless you have a recent 1080P model) and as such, I'd run the Sony at 720P. The less scaling (no matter how good) the better.

I think the better rule of thumb is "cheap is cheap", "good is good". You can throw all the native resolution theories around that you want but you are still dealing with a $100 DVD player. You take a better DVD player with a better power supply with more attention to detail in the build and you can run it through at a foreign resolution and it will best a cheap upscaling DVD player that runs at the DVD players' native resolution. This upscaling/native resolution stuff sounds really great and everything but we should not lose sight of what we are dealing with here. :)

Itsdon
06-20-06, 02:11 PM
I think the better rule of thumb is "cheap is cheap", "good is good". You can throw all the native resolution theories around that you want but you are still dealing with a $100 DVD player. You take a better DVD player with a better power supply with more attention to detail in the build and you can run it through at a foreign resolution and it will best a cheap upscaling DVD player that runs at the DVD players' native resolution. This upscaling/native resolution stuff sounds really great and everything but we should not lose sight of what we are dealing with here. :)

But "cheap and good" is better! :) This Sony puts out a better picture than the Oppo or S97 I had (all calibrated of course.)

Tybee
06-20-06, 02:30 PM
But "cheap and good" is better! :) This Sony puts out a better picture than the Oppo or S97 I had (all calibrated of course.)

Amen. In researching an upconverting player, I read more rapturous reviews of this player than most other models on the market, including high-end models. So you can scoff at the $100 price tag, but the fact is, the thing works pretty darn well. Don't fall for the old mo' expensive = mo' better falacy.

jer88
06-20-06, 04:10 PM
This is a value player intended only to be a stopgap for the next couple of years until the format war is decided. Most people don't want to shell out big bucks for a player that may be obsolete with little or no titles released yet. This upconverting player is replacing my Sony DVP-S7000, their reference standard player when DVD technology was first released. That player still works great and is being moved to my bedroom with my standard TV.

soldonandy
06-20-06, 04:30 PM
But "cheap and good" is better! :) This Sony puts out a better picture than the Oppo or S97 I had (all calibrated of course.)

Yes, cheap and good is better relatively speaking. I am not surprised that the Sony works better for you than the Oppo. :)

n3vino
06-20-06, 08:14 PM
This sure is a long thread. I hope you don't mind me asking a question that may have already been answered.

Has anyone tried the ns75h with HDMI to DVI and if so, are there any problems such as the shift issue with the ns70h? My Sony TV has a DVI input.

psquared
06-20-06, 08:19 PM
This question has been asked so many different ways, but I have to ask it again. Why would I want to pay 100 - 150 for a DVD scaler when my TV is going to turn around and scale it again. I have a 32" Samsung LCD (1388 x 768 I think) Wouldn't I do better with a player that simply deinterlaces the 480i signal and sends it to the TV to do the upscaling?

I've got an old 60" Mitsy HDTV "ready" TV downstairs and I can see using the upscaler on that, but it doesn't have HDMI so I'd have to find one that would upscale over component cables.

Bottom line, wouldn't I be better off spending the money for the Oppo for the downstairs TV and just buy a panny progressive scan for the new Samsung?? (they make one that uses HDMI)

Itsdon
06-20-06, 09:07 PM
This sure is a long thread. I hope you don't mind me asking a question that may have already been answered.

Has anyone tried the ns75h with HDMI to DVI and if so, are there any problems such as the shift issue with the ns70h? My Sony TV has a DVI input.

I had the NS70H that I fed my DVI equipped Sharp projector from and it had the shift. The NS75 (HDMI>DVI) has no shift and no problems. A great unit!

ssen
06-21-06, 01:59 AM
I purchased this product a couple of weeks back and am greatly satisfied with the PQ. But I do not seem to detect any marked difference between 480 and 720P. To my eyes, the 1080i looks best especially when I have to zoom (using the panny 42Px60U) for the 2.39:1 material. Even with the 1080i, there is no real big difference in PQ compared with 480P and I am beginning to wonder if a basic progressive player would have been enough or not.

I have not done any calibration at all - just have fiddled a little with the standard and cinema settings of the display. Will I get to see a significant difference in PQ if I do calibrate with Avia?

psquared
06-21-06, 08:22 AM
I purchased this product a couple of weeks back and am greatly satisfied with the PQ. But I do not seem to detect any marked difference between 480 and 720P. To my eyes, the 1080i looks best especially when I have to zoom (using the panny 42Px60U) for the 2.39:1 material. Even with the 1080i, there is no real big difference in PQ compared with 480P and I am beginning to wonder if a basic progressive player would have been enough or not.

I have not done any calibration at all - just have fiddled a little with the standard and cinema settings of the display. Will I get to see a significant difference in PQ if I do calibrate with Avia?

Good question. How much is an Avia disk? If it helps that much I'm going to buy the cheapest upconvert HDMI I can find and go from there.

Itsdon
06-21-06, 11:45 AM
Good question. How much is an Avia disk? If it helps that much I'm going to buy the cheapest upconvert HDMI I can find and go from there.

There's much more to this player than just it's PQ (which is outstanding BTW). Sound quality is probably the best I've heard from any DVD player and the fact that this unit offers many picture fine tuning tools and the ability to have all outputs live all the time make it stand out from the crowd.

Melanotheron
06-21-06, 02:01 PM
the ability to have all outputs live all the time

What do you mean by this?

pottscb
06-21-06, 02:09 PM
This question has been asked so many different ways, but I have to ask it again. Why would I want to pay 100 - 150 for a DVD scaler when my TV is going to turn around and scale it again. I have a 32" Samsung LCD (1388 x 768 I think) Wouldn't I do better with a player that simply deinterlaces the 480i signal and sends it to the TV to do the upscaling?

I've got an old 60" Mitsy HDTV "ready" TV downstairs and I can see using the upscaler on that, but it doesn't have HDMI so I'd have to find one that would upscale over component cables.

Bottom line, wouldn't I be better off spending the money for the Oppo for the downstairs TV and just buy a panny progressive scan for the new Samsung?? (they make one that uses HDMI)


Your TV won't "re-scale" an upconverted image coming through HDMI or DVI, this would hurt the PQ. It boils down to whether the scaler in your TV is better than the scaler in your TV. You can A-B test each scaler and see which your eye prefers.

I have a Sony 42A10 and I'm wondering if the scaler in the NS75H is any better/worse than the one in my TV...guess I'll buy from BB and return it if its not.

pottscb
06-21-06, 02:31 PM
I think the better rule of thumb is "cheap is cheap", "good is good". You can throw all the native resolution theories around that you want but you are still dealing with a $100 DVD player. You take a better DVD player with a better power supply with more attention to detail in the build and you can run it through at a foreign resolution and it will best a cheap upscaling DVD player that runs at the DVD players' native resolution. This upscaling/native resolution stuff sounds really great and everything but we should not lose sight of what we are dealing with here. :)

I had a friend once that said "You can go first class for only 350% more money..." People who buy players like these could care less that a $3500 player performs ~5% better...if you don't agree look at the DVD Benchmark testing here:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=&manufacturer=0&maxprice=0&deInt=0&mpeg=0

And no, the best power supply in the world will not save an overpriced player from crappy scaling/deinterlacing...it can (and is) bested by players with an inferior power supply that do other fundamental operations well, again, see the benchmark test in the link above.

Itsdon
06-21-06, 02:49 PM
What do you mean by this?

Not all players will have both optical & coax outputs live at the same time, it's one or the other. Same with Component out and HDMI out, one or the other. The Sony has every output live all the time. This lets me run HDMI to my projector and component to my DLP TV at the same time. Some players do not allow this.

n3vino
06-21-06, 03:55 PM
There's much more to this player than just it's PQ (which is outstanding BTW).

That was my next question. In your opinion, is the PQ in upconverted 1080I better than 480P? I have a 4 year old JVC progressive player, XV-s500. I do have the AVIA disk.

n3vino
06-21-06, 04:13 PM
I called the tech support and they confirmed that the TV supports high resolutions.

Max. resolution: 1280x768
Supports 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i formats



Any ways to force higher resolutions?

Dont confuse supports and native. For example, my tv supports all of the above but it's native resolutions are 480I, 480P and 1080I. It will accept a 720P signal but my set will downconvert it to 480P. Therefore, it is to my advantage to upconvert all HD signals to 1080I before it is sent to my TV.

You need to read your manual and see what your sets native resolutions are and what it does with those that are not native.

anthrojohn
06-21-06, 05:55 PM
Has anyone else had any issues splitting their RCA L+R outputs from the back of their NS75H? I am trying to send stereo sound to both my TV and to my amplifier. My old panasonic player had two separate RCA L+R outs which was very convenient in my situation. With this new sony, I have been forced to use a short Y-splitting cable for each output to achieve the same effect.

This would be totally fine, but I am experiencing audio distortion through my stereo and my TV, when one or the other is not on at the same time. If I wire either one directly to the DVD player, without the Y-splitters, neither the TV nor the stereo distorts. And if I am using the Y-splitters and both the TV and the stereo are on, things are fine. But if I turn off the TV (for CD listening, for instance), the stereo begins to distort. If I turn on the TV, even with the volume muted, the sound coming through the stereo is no longer distorted. The same effect occurs if I unplug the RCA plugs from the back of the TV while listening to CDs through the stereo.

I have the DVD player's audio attentuation turned on and that still doesn't help. Is there some electrical principal I am overlooking here? It seems that I should be able to split an audio signal in two with perhaps the only loss being that of audible volume.

Thanks for your help. --John

zrdb
06-21-06, 06:52 PM
Why don't you try using a switchbox?

soldonandy
06-21-06, 08:03 PM
I had a friend once that said "You can go first class for only 350% more money..." People who buy players like these could care less that a $3500 player performs ~5% better...if you don't agree look at the DVD Benchmark testing here:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=&manufacturer=0&maxprice=0&deInt=0&mpeg=0

And no, the best power supply in the world will not save an overpriced player from crappy scaling/deinterlacing...it can (and is) bested by players with an inferior power supply that do other fundamental operations well, again, see the benchmark test in the link above.

First of all, if the scaler in one of these $100 upscaling specials is better than the scaler in your TV you got a couple of problems.

Secondly, I am all too familiar with the DVD Benchmark and wouldn't put too much stock in it, great read but not necessarily the best buyers' guide.

And lastly, I agree with your comment about the "best power supply will not save an overpriced player...." but keep in mind that the power supply in these 3 pound cheapy upscaling players are far from robust. In fact, these players are a video board, the most basic power supply and alot of air. Further, little attention is paid to the transport mechanism, isolation and shielding.

soldonandy
06-21-06, 08:05 PM
This question has been asked so many different ways, but I have to ask it again. Why would I want to pay 100 - 150 for a DVD scaler when my TV is going to turn around and scale it again. I have a 32" Samsung LCD (1388 x 768 I think) Wouldn't I do better with a player that simply deinterlaces the 480i signal and sends it to the TV to do the upscaling?

I've got an old 60" Mitsy HDTV "ready" TV downstairs and I can see using the upscaler on that, but it doesn't have HDMI so I'd have to find one that would upscale over component cables.

Bottom line, wouldn't I be better off spending the money for the Oppo for the downstairs TV and just buy a panny progressive scan for the new Samsung?? (they make one that uses HDMI)

"You wouldn't" is the answer to the first paragraph and "yes" to your question in the last paragraph.

psquared
06-21-06, 11:35 PM
"You wouldn't" is the answer to the first paragraph and "yes" to your question in the last paragraph.


Let me get this straight, the "You wouldn't" applies to my statement of why would I want to spend money for a DVD player that my TV already does?

So, why make upconvert DVD players? Are they a scam for fools like me?

Typhoon!
06-22-06, 12:36 AM
Dont confuse supports and native. For example, my tv supports all of the above but it's native resolutions are 480I, 480P and 1080I. It will accept a 720P signal but my set will downconvert it to 480P. Therefore, it is to my advantage to upconvert all HD signals to 1080I before it is sent to my TV.

You need to read your manual and see what your sets native resolutions are and what it does with those that are not native.

The manual doesn't say anything about native resolution. But I am able to get all high resolutions using my laptop D-SUB jack.

Rooski
06-22-06, 12:42 AM
OK, I bought a 75H. This is my first upsampling player. I have it hooked to a Sharp LD-26SH1U 26" LCD using a Phillips hdmi/hdmi cable I picked up from Sam's Club. Using the hdmi connection, the black levels are whacked. Way to bright and washed out. I can get it looking pretty good with the custom settings, but still notice a washed out look in certain scenes. Using the component connection looks normal, but softer and less accurate colors.

Has anyone else experienced a substantial black level difference between the two connections??

Also, I was under the impression that using the hdmi conection would allow me to properly view my wide screen movies, without using my tv's zoom control. The first couple movies I watched displayed fine, but when I tried to watch "The Ghost and the Darkness", no matter what settings I tried, I could not get the width of the picture to fill the width of the tv. I had to use the component conection and the tv's zoom control to watch this movie properly.

Is it normal for certain movie dvd's to not display properly over the hdmi connection??

Tybee
06-22-06, 01:06 AM
Also, I was under the impression that using the hdmi conection would allow me to properly view my wide screen movies, without using my tv's zoom control. The first couple movies I watched displayed fine, but when I tried to watch "The Ghost and the Darkness", no matter what settings I tried, I could not get the width of the picture to fill the width of the tv. I had to use the component conection and the tv's zoom control to watch this movie properly.

Is it normal for certain movie dvd's to not display properly over the hdmi connection??

This has nothing to do with the DVD player or HDMI. "The Ghost and the Darkness" and many other big budget movies are shot in a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, meaning that, when viewed properly, they're still going to be wider than a widescreen TV, which has an aspect ratio of 16:9 (or 1.78:1). Hence, they still require black bars to properly format the image for your television.

The image with the black bars IS the proper aspect ratio. The only way you're going to get the image to fill the whole screen is to zoom until you cut off some of the picture on the sides (sounds like the method you used via component), or squish the image to fit so that everyone looks skinny. I don't recommend either of these options.

Rooski
06-22-06, 01:17 AM
This has nothing to do with the DVD player or HDMI. "The Ghost and the Darkness" and many other big budget movies are shot in a 2.39:1 aspect ratio, meaning that, when viewed properly, they're still going to be wider than a widescreen TV, which has an aspect ratio of 16:9 (or 1.78:1). Hence, they still require black bars to properly format the image for your television.

The image with the black bars IS the proper aspect ratio. The only way you're going to get the image to fill the whole screen is to zoom until you cut off some of the picture on the sides (sounds like the method you used via component), or squish the image to fit so that everyone looks skinny. I don't recommend either of these options.

Thanks for the reply! I'm not talking about the black bars at the top and bottom. I understand about the different aspect ratios, and don't mind black bars at top and bottom on wider then 16:9 movies. I just assume see the whole movie, and refuse to crop or stretch. I'm talking about the WIDTH. Watching this movie over hdmi, gave me not only black on top and bottom, but also bars on the left and right, like as if I was watching a 4:3 movie.

WaldorfSalad
06-22-06, 01:35 AM
Thanks for the reply! I'm not talking about the black bars at the top and bottom. I understand about the different aspect ratios, and don't mind black bars at top and bottom on wider then 16:9 movies. I just assume see the whole movie, and refuse to crop or stretch. I'm talking about the WIDTH. Watching this movie over hdmi, gave me not only black on top and bottom, but also bars on the left and right, like as if I was watching a 4:3 movie.There a few movies out there that do this. Another example is an early release of Deep Impact. I believe they are referred to as non-anamorphic.

Tybee
06-22-06, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the reply! I'm not talking about the black bars at the top and bottom. I understand about the different aspect ratios, and don't mind black bars at top and bottom on wider then 16:9 movies. I just assume see the whole movie, and refuse to crop or stretch. I'm talking about the WIDTH. Watching this movie over hdmi, gave me not only black on top and bottom, but also bars on the left and right, like as if I was watching a 4:3 movie.

I see. It sounds like the problem may be a non-anamorphic disc. If it's an older DVD (and the "The Ghost and the Darkness" was one of the earlier DVDs to come out), it probably isn't formatted for widescreen televisions and instead just has a 1.33:1 letterboxed image. This would result in the windowboxed image you describe when watched on a 16:9 television. Not much you can do other than zoom in (this is why so many of us argued against non-anamorphic DVDs 5-6 years ago). I know the film is available in an anamorphic version, though, so I could be wrong.

Have you noticed this phenomenon with any other (newer) discs?

Rooski
06-22-06, 01:51 AM
There a few movies out there that do this. Another example is an early release of Deep Impact. I believe they are referred to as non-anamorphic.


Hmmm....I also just watched Deep Impact, ant it displayed normally. Must be the newer release, I guess.

I should be able to live with an occasional dvd doing this. I did see something in the manual about some dvd's displaying improperly like this. When I come accross any, I could always use the component connection.

What really bothers me about the player is the brightness over hdmi. This issue will probably force me to return it. It's a shame, because I really like the PQ (aside from the washing out) when using hdmi. When using component, it's real close to my current player.

Now, I feel like buying a different model upconverting player just to make sure it's not my Sharp LCD causing the brightness issue.

Rooski
06-22-06, 02:05 AM
I see. It sounds like the problem may be a non-anamorphic disc. If it's an older DVD (and the "The Ghost and the Darkness" was one of the earlier DVDs to come out), it probably isn't formatted for widescreen televisions and instead just has a 1.33:1 letterboxed image. This would result in the windowboxed image you describe when watched on a 16:9 television. Not much you can do other than zoom in (this is why so many of us argued against non-anamorphic DVDs 5-6 years ago). I know the film is available in an anamorphic version, though, so I could be wrong.

Have you noticed this phenomenon with any other (newer) discs?


No, but I've only tried a handful. I was all anxious to watch all kinds of movies after hooking this baby up, but the excess brightness over hdmi has got me bummed. I was watching one movie, the other night, and half way through I switched to my old player, cause the occational washed out seens were bothering me. Sure, my old player shows less detail and less accurate colors, but at least the contrast is consistant throughout an entire movie. With the sony using hdmi, some scenes would have me in awe, and others would look bad. My brain is having trouble dealing with it :confused:

WaldorfSalad
06-22-06, 02:37 AM
Hmmm....I also just watched Deep Impact, ant it displayed normally. Must be the newer release, I guess.It was the older (original?) release of DI that I got when it first came out that would not display properly. I replaced ours with a newer release and it worked just fine.

Btw, I have the NC85 changer and no problems with brightness or color over HDMI. Doesn't look washed out at all. If anything it is a tad on the dark side (typical of Sony DVD players & changers) and needs the Brightness increased a few clicks. I set it to Cinema2.

P.S. The Eagle Has Landed has the same problem.

Itsdon
06-22-06, 09:39 AM
No, but I've only tried a handful. I was all anxious to watch all kinds of movies after hooking this baby up, but the excess brightness over hdmi has got me bummed. I was watching one movie, the other night, and half way through I switched to my old player, cause the occational washed out seens were bothering me. Sure, my old player shows less detail and less accurate colors, but at least the contrast is consistant throughout an entire movie. With the sony using hdmi, some scenes would have me in awe, and others would look bad. My brain is having trouble dealing with it :confused:

My Sharp PJ has several inputs and each one needs to be calibrated individually. If your LCD is similar that would likely explain the bright washed out picture over HDMI. This player does a stellar job over HDMI so perhaps you need to replace it with another if the calibration/input issue doesn't apply to your setup.

Rooski
06-22-06, 10:13 AM
My Sharp PJ has several inputs and each one needs to be calibrated individually. If your LCD is similar that would likely explain the bright washed out picture over HDMI. This player does a stellar job over HDMI so perhaps you need to replace it with another if the calibration/input issue doesn't apply to your setup.


My Sharp LCD's settings affect all inputs, so I'm screwed there. If I adjust the TV's black level to compensate, then the other sources get way too dark.

mistermike40
06-22-06, 11:43 AM
Is there any workaround to remove the 2x 'logo' on the screen when using zoom?

Norrmally I use the zoom of my Panasonic 42PX60U display when I view the movies with 2.39:1 aspect ratio. But for viewing non-english movies that have subtitles, the display zoom cuts off a part of the subtitles and I have to use the dvd players zoom.

Aside from the ridiculous blue 2x sign (they really should have provided an option to turn it off - what were they thinking?), I am afraid of burn-in for my new plasma tv.

I understand that there are no firmware updates and in any case Sony does not provide firmware updates I believe. I was wondering if there are any hacks out there to resolve this. Any inputs anyone?

Thanks

I really like this player, but I have no idea why they don't offer a 1.33x zoom that doesn't display the ever-present zoom icon (even a 1.5x zoom would be acceptable).

With so many 16:9 TVs out there, I would imagine the market for this feature is pretty big.

This past week I tried two other players - the Panny S52S and the Sammy HD860. Both have the zoom function I wanted. Both "worked" (4:3 and 2.35:1 DVDs filled my 16:9 screen, with no icon). But the PQ was not very good... not horrible, but nowhere near the Sony.

The thing that gets me, Sony's 2x zoom has good PQ. If they could just zoom "less" (which I think would improve PQ over 2x) and lose the icon, it would be the ideal player.

gene9p
06-22-06, 08:09 PM
My Sharp LCD's settings affect all inputs, so I'm screwed there. If I adjust the TV's black level to compensate, then the other sources get way too dark.

sounds like the issue is your sharp lcd tv......it just ain't good enough.....like most lcd tv's out there with the exception of sony's bravia line...but I still prefer a good panny plasma tv over anything else out there for viewing hd..or dvds...pioneer's plasmas are right up there too....but those sharp aquos lcd's.....yuch!

n3vino
06-22-06, 08:37 PM
Thanks for the reply! I'm not talking about the black bars at the top and bottom. I understand about the different aspect ratios, and don't mind black bars at top and bottom on wider then 16:9 movies. I just assume see the whole movie, and refuse to crop or stretch. I'm talking about the WIDTH. Watching this movie over hdmi, gave me not only black on top and bottom, but also bars on the left and right, like as if I was watching a 4:3 movie.


I have the same movie. My 480P player will show it the way you say if not set up to the proper aspect ratio. If I set the player to 16x9 auto, it will fill the entire screen. See if your player has more than one 16x9 options.

However, if your set thinks it's receiving an HD signal via HDMI, non anamorphic DVD's will probably not display properly because your set is locking on HD mode and cannot be changed. You might be better off, viewing non anamorphic DVD's via component at 480P.

n3vino
06-22-06, 08:46 PM
My Sharp LCD's settings affect all inputs, so I'm screwed there. If I adjust the TV's black level to compensate, then the other sources get way too dark.

Doesn't your tv have more than one viewing mode? For example I use cinema for HD and regular tv inputs and pro for DVD input. Both modes are calibrated differently.

Black and white levels and color are set two notches higher each for DVD, calibrated with AVIA.

n3vino
06-22-06, 09:01 PM
The manual doesn't say anything about native resolution. But I am able to get all high resolutions using my laptop D-SUB jack.

According to this web site, your tv's native modes are 720P(HD), and 480P, and 480I.

I'm not sure that I understood you original post, but I'll reply to it this way. Most TV's will lock to their native HD resolution when viewing HD material. So if your set thinks it's receiving an HD signal, it's locking at 720P. My set, for example, will lock at 1080I when receiving a 1080I signal. If I'm watching an HD channel, HD content will fill the screen at 16 x 9. But when a non HD commercial comes in, the set will display at 4x3 with black bars on the side and cannot be changed. I assume that a DVD, that is being viewed via HDMI, will do the same thing if it's not a widescreen anamorphic DVD.



http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Insignia_LCDTV26

Rooski
06-23-06, 08:57 AM
My Sharp PJ has several inputs and each one needs to be calibrated individually. If your LCD is similar that would likely explain the bright washed out picture over HDMI. This player does a stellar job over HDMI so perhaps you need to replace it with another if the calibration/input issue doesn't apply to your setup.

I re-investigated this, and the tv's contrast and black level settings are global. All other settings are individual to the different inputs.