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SEMIJim
10-09-06, 09:40 AM
I've got my 75H hooked to my Yamaha RX-V795 via coax. (HDMI to the TV.) No audio dropouts so far.

WaldorfSalad
10-09-06, 12:31 PM
I have a Sony NC85H DVD changer connected to a Panasonic XR50 receiver using digital coax connection. I have never experienced any audio dropouts.

atye
10-09-06, 01:49 PM
Weird. Any ideas why this might be happening? I replaced an old Monster RCA cable with a new MonoPrice cable and seem to have fewer drops, but it's still happening. I'm thinking either I have something set up wrong in the menus or a defective player. I've done a cursory check of all connections, speaker wire, etc.

Thanks

JAD2
10-09-06, 04:55 PM
The problem lies in YOUR setup, somewhere. This unit most definitely DOES upconvert to 720P or 1080i over HDMI>DVI cable. I'm doing it and so are many others. My Sharp DT-300 (which has only a DVI input) reliably shows the input as being 720P. Additionally, 720P looks much better than 480P. The PJ also shows 1080i as coming in also although to me 720P is much better for my display. Something is amiss in your setup I'm afraid.


I would be inclined to agree if it wasnt for one fact, both other DVI output players I have/had, had no problem showing a 720P or 1080i signal and the one that still works , which is in another room, still does.
Setup on the thing isnt all difficult, set it to 16.9 TV, HDMI at RGB output, and whalla done. Dont work, didnt on 2 LCD's I have.
Besides the fact that thing after toying with it some more yesterday has definitely a WHITE push problem. Dark scenes are fine, but very bright, light and scenes with alot of white, it just overpowers you to look like the contrast is jacked way up. In my sons Fast and Stupid Tokyo drift, the cars which have alot of color and shine, but this player seems to lack luster compared to the other player. Like I said I got 2 units and neither one works and I checked and rechecked and checked again the setup and so fourth.
Late yesterday I returned the unit to CC and we tried it on 2 TV's they had there, that are older models with DVI, one it worked on, the other it did not. WHY?????
My Sammy 931 blew this thing away with its color rendition, contrast and simpleness of usage. Its gone now and I bit the bullet and have a 971 Oppo coming, so will see!!!

YeuEmMaiMai
10-10-06, 03:29 AM
I have my sony player hooked up to a ViewSonic N3251W LCD via HDMI using 720P and to my Yamaha HTR 5635 receiver using a straight RCA cable for the coaxial audio.

PQ is excellent (using a cheap $20 HDMI cable) and no dropouts on the audio either......

Excellent DVD player IMHO

DrGregC
10-11-06, 10:48 PM
Any comments on the Costco Sony DVP-NS71HP version of the model 75 player? I see it comes with a 1.5 meter HDMI cable. Good deal at $129?

StormyQ
10-13-06, 12:02 PM
Any comments on the Costco Sony DVP-NS71HP version of the model 75 player? I see it comes with a 1.5 meter HDMI cable. Good deal at $129?From what I've read it's an exact replica of the 75H. At that price it's a tad higher than the last price I saw for the 75 on Amazon but as you said, the Costco version comes w/ an HDMI cable and the added protection of Costco's generous return policy if something does wrong on day 31 of ownership.

tacos
10-24-06, 03:55 PM
Has there been a firmware update for this player? Thanks

Lee Bailey
10-24-06, 04:23 PM
I've never seen Sony release a firmware update for any of their stand alone DVD players. I wouldn't hold your breath.

wudevious
10-25-06, 10:37 AM
Good day all-
Thanks for the forums, I've picked up this DVD player 75H and a Sony KDs-55A2000...now of course I am trying to pair them up for optimal viewing enjoyment...does anyone have this or a similar setup? I am basically trying to figure out what has worked best for people in terms of 720p or 1080i. Actually, even if you do not have this TV, anyone have any opinions on whether it would be better to set the DVD player to 720p or 1080i when the TV's native resolution is 1080p? I've played a couple movies and its not looking as clear as I thought (I use HDMI if that helps).

Thanks a bunch!

Jay_Davis
10-25-06, 04:14 PM
I have the 75H hooked to a 50A2000 via HDMI, so it's basically the same.

DVD source is 480i and the TV is 1080p, so you have to deinterlace and scale. You don't want to output 720p because then you'll scale twice (480 to 720 and 720 to 1080).

I've got the 75H sending 480p. So the 75H is deinterlacing and the A2000 is scaling. I think that looks the best (and, on paper, should look the best).

You could also try comparing it to sending 1080i where the 75H does the scaling and the A2000 does the deinterlacing to see if you like one or the other better.

One thing to remember is that DVD is still standard def and you will see every detail of imperfection. Even within the same movie one scene can look perfectly clear and the next is slightly blurry. But that IS what the movie looks like.

petergaryr
10-25-06, 07:21 PM
Good day all-
Thanks for the forums, I've picked up this DVD player 75H and a Sony KDs-55A2000...now of course I am trying to pair them up for optimal viewing enjoyment...does anyone have this or a similar setup? I am basically trying to figure out what has worked best for people in terms of 720p or 1080i. Actually, even if you do not have this TV, anyone have any opinions on whether it would be better to set the DVD player to 720p or 1080i when the TV's native resolution is 1080p? I've played a couple movies and its not looking as clear as I thought (I use HDMI if that helps).

Thanks a bunch!

Well, the best results for me (I have the 75H connected to a 50E2000), is a 720p output to the TV (it is 720p native). That has resulted in a noticeably improved picture versus using a standard progressive scan DVD player outputting a 480p signal.

However, let your eyes be the final judge since you are the only one who needs to be pleased with the results.

DrDetroit
10-25-06, 07:26 PM
Picked one up tonight for $129+tax. Going to connect to my Sony KDF-42WE655 LCD HDTV and my Sony DAV-FC9 HTiB via HDMI and digital optical.

And only because it was available to rent for $1 I picked up The Fast & the Furious: Tokyo Drift to test it out. I'll also pop in LoTR RotK a little later.

I'll let you know the results.

DrDetroit
10-25-06, 10:15 PM
Easy hook-up. Connected the tv via HDMI and to my HTiB via digital optical. I set the output to Auto and turned on DTS. I didn't fiddle with any other settings and didn't adjust the tv at all.

Warching The Fast & the Furious via the DVP-NS71HP versus via my HTiB and I could not tell much of a difference. The colors appeared a little more brilliant via the DVP-NS71HP. The same was true watching RotK.

What's the consensus around here re: these upconverting DVD players? Do many of you recognize a distinct or strong difference in PQ? Other factors? Am I possibly missing something?

gtgray
10-25-06, 10:43 PM
I have had 5 different DVD players hooked up my HP 6580n including the NC85H. The each have their strong points and weak points. I have a Tosh A1 as well. Some are better over component, some better over HDMI, some have marginal upscaling. I have a Pioneer Elite 82 with a built in scaler. It scales much sharper than the scaler in any of the players including the HD DVD. Some of the players crush blacks very badly through this scaler. The Sony will not work through the HDMI on the Pioneer. It works fine through component and it scales very well but the blacks crush a lot. Once you have seen the caliber of scaling you can get out of the A1 or the scaler in the Elite it is very unsatisfying to use the built in scaler in the Sony. My crappy Samsung HD850 that is no where near the caliber player of the Sony is defintely sharper with much better blacks than the Sony when scaled through the Faroudja in the Elite. Both going straight to the TV through HDMI the Sony is wins hands down. I have a Pioneer progressive player that works well with the Pioneer scaler.. some how that is not a surprise. Very little black crush but it is an older player and while the scaler dramatically improved the picture quality it is several steps less sharp than the Sony, the A1, or the surpsising Samsung. Right now I have all 3 players hooked up. The Sony goes straight to the TV via HDMI and is to 480P which gives the best shadow detail,so it gets the very dark movies with no scaling. The A1 would be my choice for most movies that are fairly well lit, and the Samsung gets the concert and animation stuff. So much for the concept of a universal player eh. Forget the audio formats, they each seem to behave differently with video depending on the connection, the content, and whether it is upscaled or not.. and there is no question that the scaler in the DVDs is not as good as the one in the Elite (the A1 is close though).

I thought the A1 would give the ultimate SD picture quality going through the scaler in the Elite, and that is indeed the sharpest combination but the blacks are already weak on that player on my HP to begin with and the Faroudja kills them off altogether.

Tigershark
10-26-06, 05:01 AM
... The Sony will not work through the HDMI on the Pioneer. It works fine through component and it scales very well but the blacks crush a lot. ... The Sony goes straight to the TV via HDMI and is to 480P which gives the best shadow detail,so it gets the very dark movies with no scaling. ...


I struggle getting good shadow details (false contouring) on my 85H and 768p plasma. Is outputing 480P through HDMI really better than 720P or 1080i, especially if it has to be scaled by the display to 768P?

acqui
10-26-06, 01:33 PM
I just got this player for my parents and it's hooked up directly via hdmi to a Sony KDS 60A2000 and the picture quality is brilliant! I honestly couldn't see any difference between the picture quality of my Oppo 971 and the Sony. Until the sort out the Blu Ray/HD debate, I am quite happy with this Sony for a very small fraction of the price of the current crop of HD players.

D1013
10-26-06, 06:02 PM
proud owner for over a month now and just started playing with the settings. Was wondering if people leave the picture mode on 'standard' or use 'cinema 1' 'cinema 2' or 'dynamic 1' or 'dynamic 2'. I read through this thread a while back and I don't remember a lot of people commenting on this. Personally I thought 'cinema 2' looked pretty good and was wondering what others use? I'm guessing most people leave it on standard.

WaldorfSalad
10-26-06, 06:37 PM
Cinema 2 for me. :)

n3vino
10-26-06, 06:50 PM
I use standard via HDMI at 1080I calibrated with AVIA. Tv's native format is 1080I. Great picture.

JimSD
10-26-06, 09:57 PM
I use Cinema 1. I couldn't get it to pass BTB (blacker than black) with Standard.

JF_Aidan_Pryde
10-26-06, 10:17 PM
Can anyone get 2.31:1 ratio through this player? I can't. The picture comes out wider than 16:9 but nowhere near wide enough. The blacks bars should be twice as thick to get 2.31:1. I am watching "The Island".

bmwf1techie
10-27-06, 03:42 PM
Can anyone tell me why a JPEG CD that I put into the player would not show the pictures in HD resolution? I am plugged in via HDMI to my Dell W4200HD plasma and I have resolution set to 720p on the player. The pics do not fill the screen and they are fuzzy. Any ideas? Thanks.

rufusrex
10-29-06, 10:57 AM
I've been trying out this player and really want to keep it, except for major problem. I'm getting a great HDMI out picture on my Westy 46" LCD, but if I do anything like pause or stop the playback, when I restart I lose my picture. I have to select another input on then switch back to HDMI to get the picture back. Seems like some sort of handshake issue. I'm guessing that it's specific to my TV model and the Sony since I searched this thread and couldn't find anything similiar. Any idea? I've got a Monoprice HDMI cable, so I think that is OK. I've tried a Panny ES25H and that works fine.

Kracko
10-29-06, 11:40 AM
I have a Westy 42" with a Monoprice cable and this player and never have the problem you describe.

rufusrex
10-29-06, 02:06 PM
I have a Westy 42" with a Monoprice cable and this player and never have the problem you describe.

It's odd, I was able to isolate the problem. When I unplug the HDMI cable then plug it back in it works fine until I power off the DVD player. I noticed when I turn on the DVD player, the DVD lists "HDMI" on the screen, which is what the TV is getting for a signal. But when I pause or stop the player, then resume, the TV reads "DVD" as the input source, but my TV has no DVD source, it has 2 composite, 1 componet, 1 HDMI and 1 S-Video. I have to press HDMI again on the remote to switch it back to the correct input source. Does your Westy have a specific "DVD" input?

dave69
10-29-06, 07:18 PM
I picked up a 75 at BB ... HDMI to the Sammy 6167... screen flashes green, the HDMI light on the 75 doesn't come on. I do get composite - havent checked component tho. Even swapped cables with the one in use with the Dish 622.

Is there a setting I am missing to enable the HDMI out?

Thanks!
Dave

petergaryr
10-29-06, 08:02 PM
I picked up a 75 at BB ... HDMI to the Sammy 6167... screen flashes green, the HDMI light on the 75 doesn't come on. I do get composite - havent checked component tho. Even swapped cables with the one in use with the Dish 622.

Is there a setting I am missing to enable the HDMI out?

Thanks!
Dave

I can't help you with the Sammy. However, with my Sony KDF-50E2000, I have to make sure I am on the DVD external input before turning on the 75 for the HDMI handshake to occur.

If I am on any other input when I turn the DVD player on, the HDMI light does not come on (not unexpected). Once I switch to the DVD input, the TV does the handshake with the player and the blue light turns on.

From your comment, my experience, and others, it is probably just a matter of how the handshake occurs between different sets and the player.

Rooski
10-29-06, 09:03 PM
It's odd, I was able to isolate the problem. When I unplug the HDMI cable then plug it back in it works fine until I power off the DVD player. I noticed when I turn on the DVD player, the DVD lists "HDMI" on the screen, which is what the TV is getting for a signal. But when I pause or stop the player, then resume, the TV reads "DVD" as the input source, but my TV has no DVD source, it has 2 composite, 1 componet, 1 HDMI and 1 S-Video. I have to press HDMI again on the remote to switch it back to the correct input source. Does your Westy have a specific "DVD" input?


Hmmm............Maybe an issue with a duplicate remote code?

Zues
10-30-06, 11:43 PM
proud owner for over a month now and just started playing with the settings. Was wondering if people leave the picture mode on 'standard' or use 'cinema 1' 'cinema 2' or 'dynamic 1' or 'dynamic 2'. I read through this thread a while back and I don't remember a lot of people commenting on this. Personally I thought 'cinema 2' looked pretty good and was wondering what others use? I'm guessing most people leave it on standard.

Clicking on memory gives you all kinds of options.

naviguessor
10-31-06, 05:11 PM
Hi,

I have had this player for about a week now and am very satisfied with its video performance, I also purchased the player to be my mp3 player for my stereo. The thing is, when I play cd's(cd-r,cd-rw,commercial) I get this ticking sound that comes from inside the player roughly every 3/4 of a second, not real loud, but loud enough that I can hear it 12 feet away at soft music levels. Does anyone else have this? It does not have the same symptom during video playback. :confused: Thanks in advance!

Kevin

dave69
11-01-06, 12:15 PM
I can't help you with the Sammy. However, with my Sony KDF-50E2000, I have to make sure I am on the DVD external input before turning on the 75 for the HDMI handshake to occur.

If I am on any other input when I turn the DVD player on, the HDMI light does not come on (not unexpected). Once I switch to the DVD input, the TV does the handshake with the player and the blue light turns on.

From your comment, my experience, and others, it is probably just a matter of how the handshake occurs between different sets and the player.




I plugged the 75 in to the hp plasma, and it works fine. Would the problem be with the 6167 as both hdmi inputs work with the Dish 622 and Bravo?

Thanks

Mok Dan Lan
11-04-06, 12:17 AM
Hi,

I have had this player for about a week now and am very satisfied with its video performance, I also purchased the player to be my mp3 player for my stereo. The thing is, when I play cd's(cd-r,cd-rw,commercial) I get this ticking sound that comes from inside the player roughly every 3/4 of a second, not real loud, but loud enough that I can hear it 12 feet away at soft music levels. Does anyone else have this? It does not have the same symptom during video playback. :confused: Thanks in advance!

Kevin

i did a LOT of comparison shopping and for the money, not much comes close. i havent heard any ticking sound to speak of, perhaps its a dropper. i cant speak for you but my rule of thumb is if 1 little thing bothers me, back it goes.

wish i could say the same for my LG LCD... spilled an unfortunate substance on the frame and well... can't take it back now... ha, ha ha, ha... ha... sigh, *sniff*.

Tirconnell
11-05-06, 07:56 PM
I just picked up the NS75H and hooked it up Via component , I wasn't going to pay $40 - $70 for the stores HDMI cable , I will pick one up tomorrow at a more realistic price somewhere else . So for now I can only get 480p to my Toshiba MX .

Here is my question . Has anyone found a REGION CODE HACK that works on this unit ???

I need to have this region free or at least region 1 & 2 . I have looked extensively on the net and the best place I found is videohelp com and they show no known code hack for this model .

So I will go see what the Sony looks like at 480p until I get a HDMI cable . If I can't get a Region Code Hack I guess I will have to take it back and get the Samsung HD 960 , that unit can be made region code free ,,,

Thanks

steaksauce111
11-06-06, 03:16 AM
I've been trying out this player and really want to keep it, except for major problem. I'm getting a great HDMI out picture on my Westy 46" LCD, but if I do anything like pause or stop the playback, when I restart I lose my picture. I have to select another input on then switch back to HDMI to get the picture back. Seems like some sort of handshake issue. I'm guessing that it's specific to my TV model and the Sony since I searched this thread and couldn't find anything similiar. Any idea? I've got a Monoprice HDMI cable, so I think that is OK. I've tried a Panny ES25H and that works fine.

I have the same damn problem:

Hi all.

I recently bought a Sony DVP-NS75H to go along with a Westinghouse LTV-32W6 32" LCD TV. The picture looks great via HDMI and it's playing at 1080i... the only problem that I have is that when I fast forward or something and then press "PLAY" on the DVD remote, the TV goes into a "DVD" mode from either the HDMI or AV mode (the problem exists with both HDMI and RCA). So the screen goes blank into the DVD mode and so what I end up doing is to press the HDMI button on my TV remote to get it connected again. It's annoying and wish I can fix it somehow. Anyone else have this issue and anyone solve this?

I've isolated this problem to the DVD player since there are no such issues with another DVD player that I've used. Or maybe a Westy and Sony combo is the issue.

For anyone who has this DVD Player, do any of you get the symptoms that I am experiencing?

Thanks- steaksauce from SD.

Chris Gerhard
11-06-06, 05:22 AM
I just picked up the NS75H and hooked it up Via component , I wasn't going to pay $40 - $70 for the stores HDMI cable , I will pick one up tomorrow at a more realistic price somewhere else . So for now I can only get 480p to my Toshiba MX .

Here is my question . Has anyone found a REGION CODE HACK that works on this unit ???

I need to have this region free or at least region 1 & 2 . I have looked extensively on the net and the best place I found is videohelp com and they show no known code hack for this model .

So I will go see what the Sony looks like at 480p until I get a HDMI cable . If I can't get a Region Code Hack I guess I will have to take it back and get the Samsung HD 960 , that unit can be made region code free ,,,

Thanks

I own the NS75H and owned the NS70H and have never seen an all-region hack. Sony DVD players better do what you want out of the box based on my experience since you aren't likely going to see any hacks or firmware updates for additional features or functionality. I would suggest you look at one of the Oppo players.

Chris

Skillz911
11-06-06, 11:08 AM
Hello all,

Im currently using the NS75H and its not outputting in DTS it sends DD just fine but wont send the dts signal. I have made sure its set to both DTS and DD. I have tried this with two different DTS format dvds. And my reciever automatically detects it in DD ex. When I switch my reciever to dts there is no sound and it just blinks as it should. Im connected using an optical cable. Maybe I should try coax? Any ideas? anything I should try?- When I get home on my lunch break Im going to try connecting one of my other dvd players that outputs in DTS and see what happens.

rack04
11-06-06, 11:16 AM
If I connect my Sony DVP-NS75H directly to my Samsung HL-S6187W via HDMI do I have to tell the Sony DVD to output digital audio via optical cable or will it output both the HDMI audio to the TV and digital audio to receiver?

Jay_Davis
11-06-06, 05:53 PM
Hello all,

Im currently using the NS75H and its not outputting in DTS it sends DD just fine but wont send the dts signal. I have made sure its set to both DTS and DD. I have tried this with two different DTS format dvds. And my reciever automatically detects it in DD ex. When I switch my reciever to dts there is no sound and it just blinks as it should. Im connected using an optical cable. Maybe I should try coax? Any ideas? anything I should try?- When I get home on my lunch break Im going to try connecting one of my other dvd players that outputs in DTS and see what happens.

I've had no problem with outputting DTS. Double-check your DVD and receiver settings.

Skillz911
11-07-06, 08:25 AM
I've had no problem with outputting DTS. Double-check your DVD and receiver settings.

Doh me I figured out the issue (user error) :) anyhow I was forgetting to go to the movies menu to set it to DTS I wasn't aware a DTS movie defaulted to DD.

Chaosphere482
11-07-06, 11:43 AM
So if I understand correctly, this DVD player DOES NOT play DVD-Audio?

WaldorfSalad
11-07-06, 12:53 PM
So if I understand correctly, this DVD player DOES NOT play DVD-Audio?Yes and No. You will only be able to play the DVD-Video layer. In most cases, this means you will be able to play the 5.1 DD layer (output via digital output) just not the hi-rez DVD-Audio layer.

chelray1
11-07-06, 01:33 PM
Ok, this post is for all the people with CRT HDTVs.. I noticed a few posts earlier in this thread asking about the Sony with CRTs.

Welp, here is what I have..

Sony 34" WEGAź Flat Screen HDTV (KD34XBR970)
Sony 5-Disc DVD/CD Changer (DVPNC85HB)

The Sony DVD Player is hooked directly to the TVs HDMI port.

I hooked this up in about 2 minutes and turned it on and put in Revenge of the Sith. First thing a had to do is make adjustments on the DVD(Picture, Brightness, Sharpness etc etc). Once I did, I had what I felft like was a close HD picture. However, in light backgrounds with little color, it looked a little to "white"...The load time on the dvd player per disc is around 20 seconds. Not to bad for the quality you get. There was no shift issue like on the older Sony models. The picture size was just as it should be. I tried the Zoom feature to get rid of the black bars, but it zoomed to much for my taste and caused artifacts in the picture. I quickly unzoomed and watched it with the black bars. My TV also has a ZOOM feature, but it had the same result as the DVD ZOOM..(minus the 2x logo)..

I have heard that SAMSUNG dvd players have whats called EZView.. Where in you can set it to get rid of the black bars and have no picture quality loss. (Is this true?) If so, is the feature only on SAMSUNG Standard players and is it also on the SAMSUNG HD Upconversion players???

My only problem is that I hate black bars, but I want top picture quality also. I think the SONY does a great near HD Up-Conversion and that SAMSUNG can not come close to that...It really too bad you cant get both in one player...(no black bars and Near HD quality).

Also, the "white" effect in light backgrounds is annoying to me in some movies..

I also tested this player with T2 and ST2 Wrath Of Khan.

One question, the sound is not all that great. I messed with the settings but never could get it to sound as good as my regular tv channels.

hall
11-07-06, 01:41 PM
Revenge of the Sith, Terminator 2, and Wrath of Khan, according to IMDB, are all filmed in 2.35:1 format. You WILL get black bars across the top and bottom of the screen, even on a widescreen TV.

chelray1
11-07-06, 01:44 PM
Revenge of the Sith, Terminator 2, and Wrath of Khan, according to IMDB, are all filmed in 2.35:1 format. You WILL get black bars across the top and bottom of the screen, even on a widescreen TV.


Right, but I was asking about the EZVIEW feature of SAMSUNG DVD Players that Eliminate the Black Bars..Does it work without PQ loss? and do their upconversion players have this feature or is it just their standard Def players....

Wal Mart has a 98.00 Samsung DVD-VHS with EZVIEW Letterbox Eliminator.However its a Standard DEF player..

The Samsung DVD-HD960 is the one I really want to know about. What is the quality like on it compared to the Sony. Also, if you use the EZview feature will it lose as much picture quality as the sony in zoom?

hall
11-07-06, 02:27 PM
Unless they crop the picture, they are stretching the picture so there WILL be PQ loss. Of course, it may not be enough that anyone can notice though.

I'm very slowly looking at up-converting DVD players and the Samsung you list isn't thought of too highly around here. There's a Sony that is though. I want to say it's the DVP-NS75H.

chelray1
11-07-06, 02:54 PM
Unless they crop the picture, they are stretching the picture so there WILL be PQ loss. Of course, it may not be enough that anyone can notice though.

I'm very slowly looking at up-converting DVD players and the Samsung you list isn't thought of too highly around here. There's a Sony that is though. I want to say it's the DVP-NS75H.


Yeah, I have the Sony...Love the PQ on it! Just wanted to know how the Samsung 960 compared and what the quality loss was when using EZVIEW.

I will problably stick with the sony, I am just debating a little. I think I can get use to the black bars

steaksauce111
11-07-06, 03:47 PM
I have the same damn problem:

Hi all.

I recently bought a Sony DVP-NS75H to go along with a Westinghouse LTV-32W6 32" LCD TV. The picture looks great via HDMI and it's playing at 1080i... the only problem that I have is that when I fast forward or something and then press "PLAY" on the DVD remote, the TV goes into a "DVD" mode from either the HDMI or AV mode (the problem exists with both HDMI and RCA). So the screen goes blank into the DVD mode and so what I end up doing is to press the HDMI button on my TV remote to get it connected again. It's annoying and wish I can fix it somehow. Anyone else have this issue and anyone solve this?

I've isolated this problem to the DVD player since there are no such issues with another DVD player that I've used. Or maybe a Westy and Sony combo is the issue.

For anyone who has this DVD Player, do any of you get the symptoms that I am experiencing?

Thanks- steaksauce from SD.

So, I did call Sony yesterday and they recommended me to unplug the DVD player for a couple of minutes and then plugging it back again. It solved the problem. I don't know how, but it did... I just hope it doesn't start up again.

I have been in contact with another person with the same DVD player and a Westinghouse 32" (but a older version with older firmware) but for him, the "play" button on the DVD remote makes the tv go into DVD mode even if the DVD player is off. He contacted Westinghouse and was told that the Sony and Westy remote codes are similar and that not even a firmware upgrade would solve that issue.

garyc8710
11-09-06, 01:18 PM
A question about HDMI setup.
I have the DVP-NS75H connected to my TV via the HDMI input. I set the output at 1080i. When I select the input on my Sony KD-34XBR960 to the corresponding HDMI input, the DVD player's progressive scan light goes on. While on this input , I am unable to defeat the progressive scan mode on the player. It only allows my to select Progressive-auto, or Progressive video. Is this normal?

WaldorfSalad
11-09-06, 03:12 PM
Take a look at the page in the manual that covers this. Progressive scan only applies when you are using the component output (480i/p). 1080i is fixed at interlaced (can't get 1080p from this player) and 720p is fixed at progressive (no 720i).

garyc8710
11-09-06, 06:08 PM
Thanks for the reply, but the question still remain. Does the player first take the signal from the disk, convert it to progressive and then upconvert to 1080i ?
Is this why the progressive light can't be defeated?

Mok Dan Lan
11-11-06, 07:25 PM
Yeah, I have the Sony...Love the PQ on it! Just wanted to know how the Samsung 960 compared and what the quality loss was when using EZVIEW.

I will problably stick with the sony, I am just debating a little. I think I can get use to the black bars

the SAMSUNG was an awful, awful experience.

the menu is ridiculous, it's clear someone from japan with poor english translated it.

the blue light of death will burn a hole in your brain while you watch a movie.

for a player that is supposed to handle 1080p, watching movies at 1080i would skip between chapters. (skipping?!? in this day and age?!?)

when i ran the 4:3/16:9 test in the THX video tuner, it was so far left, i couldn't see the 2nd line.

to make matters worse, it's twice the price of the SONY.

i never used any ezview option, but i suspect that anyone who wants to stretch a 2.35:1 perspective to 16:9, can't be too concerned with PQ.

...

huffer4
11-11-06, 10:19 PM
I have just purchased the 75H. I am trying to run it through my Home Theatre in a Box for the sound. It is a Philips MX3900D Home Theatre.
I am using an HDMI cable to run it to the TV and a Digital Coax cable to run it to my Home Theatre. I have the Coax run into the Digital IN on the back of my Home Theatre. I have the "Digital Output" option set to "All" on my home theatre menu, which the book says is the setting to put it to for a piece of equiptment with a multichannel decoder.
On the DVD player I have the options set as follows.

Dig Out - On
Dolby Digital - D PCM
DTS - On
PCM - 96kHz/24bit

When I begin to watch the DVD I am using as a tester (Star Wars), I believe can hear surround Sound, especially at the THX screen at the beginning. My problem is that when I do the THX optomizer, It blends the 2 rear speakers together into one channel, and there is no noise at all from the sub.
If I try to play the movie with Dolby Digital option in the menu turned to "Dolby Digital" instead of "D PCM" I dont get any sound.

Any help to resolve my problem would be great.
If you are confused or need more info, just ask or PM me.

Thanks

WaldorfSalad
11-12-06, 12:45 AM
Most likely your TV isn't passing DD 5.1 through from your HDMI input. Most TVs don't do this. The optical output on your TV is for outputting DD 5.1 when you are using the TVs tuner. So, run a digital optical/coax connection directly from your NS75 into your HTIB.

huffer4
11-12-06, 01:07 AM
Most likely your TV isn't passing DD 5.1 through from your HDMI input. Most TVs don't do this. The optical output on your TV is for outputting DD 5.1 when you are using the TVs tuner. So, run a digital optical/coax connection directly from your NS75 into your HTIB.
Sorry, I wrote it kind of confusing. I am already running an HDMI to the TV and a digital coax directly into the HTIB.

Mok Dan Lan
11-12-06, 12:21 PM
Dolby Digital - D PCM


i verified against my own setup, and the only difference i can see is this setting above, which i have set to DOLBY DIGITAL: DOLBY DIGITAL

i run the thx test as well, and everything is fine.

huffer4
11-12-06, 01:00 PM
i verified against my own setup, and the only difference i can see is this setting above, which i have set to DOLBY DIGITAL: DOLBY DIGITAL

i run the thx test as well, and everything is fine.

That seems to be the only setting that effects it. If I change almost any other setting it still plays fine, but if I change that to DOLBY DIGITAL I get no sound. I know my HTIB plays DOLBY DIGITAL.

rsonnens
11-12-06, 01:48 PM
That seems to be the only setting that effects it. If I change almost any other setting it still plays fine, but if I change that to DOLBY DIGITAL I get no sound. I know my HTIB plays DOLBY DIGITAL.

I have no problem getting DOLBY DIGITAL or DTS from the 75H. All I can suggest is that you look into all the setting options on your HTIB.

WaldorfSalad
11-12-06, 02:47 PM
That seems to be the only setting that effects it. If I change almost any other setting it still plays fine, but if I change that to DOLBY DIGITAL I get no sound. I know my HTIB plays DOLBY DIGITAL.I also have no problem getting DOLBY DIGITAL or DTS from the NC85H (changer version of NS75).
I have Dolby Digital set to Bitstream rather than PCM.

Davidt1
11-12-06, 03:14 PM
I might buy the NC85H. Can you turn off the display on this dvd player? Thanks.

WaldorfSalad
11-12-06, 03:20 PM
I might buy the NC85H. Can you turn off the display on this dvd player? Thanks.No, but you can set it to be dim. See page 67 of the manual. I have my NC85H set to Auto Dark.

camboris
11-13-06, 08:19 PM
i have the ns75h hooked up through hdmi to the tv and digital coax going into a yamaha659 reciever. i have no problems with dts encoding. the reciever picks it up and displays dts also no problems with dolby digital.

Steff3
11-13-06, 11:38 PM
My JVC player is dieing and I need a new player.
Can someone explain to me the difference between the 75H & 85H please? As far as I can tell it looks like the changer but is there any other differences. Also, how is the music CD quality on these players?

Thanks!

hall
11-13-06, 11:43 PM
Assuming you're referring to the NS75H and the NC85H, safe to say that

S = single disc
C = changer

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 12:35 AM
^^^ what he said.

Steff3
11-14-06, 01:08 AM
Assuming you're referring to the NS75H and the NC85H, safe to say that

S = single disc
C = changer

Thanks for the quick reply.
I figured this much out but was curious if there is any other discernable differences. I take it by your reply that the multi disc changer is basically the only difference.
I see BB has it in black for a decent price. Time to go...............
Thanks again.

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 04:06 AM
I'm considering getting this player vs. the Samsung 960 and Panny S52. I'm sorry if this has been answered, but I haven't read this entire thread.

Are there any major playback problems with this Sony, such as macroblocking or incorrect colorspace/decoding?

At its price point, it sounds like a solid player for the price.

petergaryr
11-14-06, 07:28 AM
I'm considering getting this player vs. the Samsung 960 and Panny S52. I'm sorry if this has been answered, but I haven't read this entire thread.

Are there any major playback problems with this Sony, such as macroblocking or incorrect colorspace/decoding?

At its price point, it sounds like a solid player for the price.

For its price, this is one of the better DVD players I have ever owned. It is a winning combination of PQ and SQ.

chelray1
11-14-06, 09:50 AM
For its price, this is one of the better DVD players I have ever owned. It is a winning combination of PQ and SQ.

Yes, I have tried several other players before the SONY and its the best for the price. The PQ and SQ are among the best of any player. I got the changer, cause I like black, only $15.00 more than the single..

Oh, the load times on my SONY changer are only about 10 secs...very acceptable...Many people said it was 20+ secs..not true for me... mine is 10 or under

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the tip. Is the upconversion electronics of Sony's changers (including the 400 disc changer) identical to the DVP-NS75H?

bmwf1techie
11-14-06, 02:16 PM
I agree. great PQ and SQ from this player. I am very happy with it.

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 03:23 PM
Thanks for the tip. Is the upconversion electronics of Sony's changers (including the 400 disc changer) identical to the DVP-NS75H?Yes!
Also, there is NO macroblocking-enhance with the NS75 & NC85.
Btw, I have supplemented my Sony NC85 with a Panny S52.

Steff3
11-14-06, 04:26 PM
Yes!
Also, there is NO macroblocking-enhance with the NS75 & NC85.
Btw, I have supplemented my Sony NC85 with a Panny S52.
Just curious, why supplement the Sony with the Panny? Issues???

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 04:45 PM
Yes!
Also, there is NO macroblocking-enhance with the NS75 & NC85.
Btw, I have supplemented my Sony NC85 with a Panny S52.

How is "macroblocking-enhance" different than regular macroblocking?

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 04:50 PM
Just curious, why supplement the Sony with the Panny? Issues???No issues. I have my NC85 loaded up with DVDs for sitcoms, dramas that have multiple episodes, and a DVD with a few dozen CDs on it in MP3 format. I use the S52 when we want to just watch a movie.
Both have much the same PQ.
I would have got a NS75 to supplement the NC85 had it not been for the fact that the remote codes clash.

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 04:56 PM
How is "macroblocking-enhance" different than regular macroblocking?All DVDs have macroblocking to some extent. Its an unfortunate bi-product of the compression that DVDs use. DVD players that use the Faroudja deinterlacing chip tend to exaggerate (or "enhance") the macroblocking and it can be especially noticeable in dark scenes where blacks can take on a "blinking blocks of green" appearance and some purple. To some extent it can be display dependent. Some DVD players and some displays are worse than others for exhibiting the effects of MBe. DVD players like the Sony NS75 (and Panny S52) don't use the Faroudja deinterlacing chip so don't have the MBe problem.

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 05:00 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

Do you happen to know if the "shift issue" with earlier Sony players has been resolved with their current models? I'm somewhat leaning toward the Sony DVPCX995V 400-disc changer. It retails for less than $1 per disc!

chelray1
11-14-06, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

Do you happen to know if the "shift issue" with earlier Sony players has been resolved with their current models? I'm somewhat leaning toward the Sony DVPCX995V 400-disc changer. It retails for less than $1 per disc!

The shift issue has been fixed. To be honest I cant find anything major wrong with this dvd player.. Its top of the line for the price..

There is one thing I don't like.. When you hit the Zoom button, its displays a 2x logo in the corner.. Very crappy...

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

Do you happen to know if the "shift issue" with earlier Sony players has been resolved with their current models? I'm somewhat leaning toward the Sony DVPCX995V 400-disc changer. It retails for less than $1 per disc!The "shift/squeeze" issue was/is in the NS70 and NS90. It does not occur in the NS75 and NC85. Don't know about the DVPCX995V though.

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 05:35 PM
What was this shift issue about, and how it can be reproduced? I was only able to find some past mentions of vertical pixel shifting over HDMI connections for the older Sony models.

Bill McNeal
11-14-06, 05:44 PM
The "shift/squeeze" issue was/is in the NS70 and NS90. It does not occur in the NS75 and NC85. Don't know about the DVPCX995V though.

I would hope that the shift issue is not in the DVPCX995V, given that it has the same firmware as the NS75. I'm planning on getting a large size, so any problems would be magnified by the display.

WaldorfSalad
11-14-06, 05:46 PM
What was this shift issue about, and how it can be reproduced? I was only able to find some past mentions of vertical pixel shifting over HDMI connections for the older Sony models.If you do a search on NS70 you should find an old thread from earlier this year that gets (deep) into the problem.

CT_Wiebe
11-14-06, 10:03 PM
Bill McNeal -- It wasn't a firmware issue, but it was in the hardware (the video processing integrated circuits). This issue was corrected with the new design chips that were used in the NS75H and NC85H. If the DVPCX995V uses the same video processing hardware, then it shouldn't have the image shift problem.

Steff3
11-15-06, 12:14 AM
WaldorfSalad, thanks for the replys and the explanations. This helped immensely!

KerryG
11-17-06, 02:35 PM
New to this forum, so apologes is this has been previously answered..

I'm looking for an upconvert DVD player, and considering buying the NS75H. One feature I want is the equivalent of TiVo's "10 back" button (the quick 10-second jump backward). I downloaded the manual from Sony's site, but I don't see this feature mentioned anywhere. What I *do* see is the 'Replay' button which supposedly jumps to the begininng of the current scene (as opposed to the chapter jump button). Is this what I'm looking for? If not, what does it consider a "scene", and how does it detct them?

Thanks for the help...

Doug_Eldred
11-17-06, 06:10 PM
From elsewhere on the site, CC has a $99 special through 11/18 ($5 off, $30 mail-in rebate).

Doug

Bill McNeal
11-19-06, 03:21 PM
Bill McNeal -- It wasn't a firmware issue, but it was in the hardware (the video processing integrated circuits). This issue was corrected with the new design chips that were used in the NS75H and NC85H. If the DVPCX995V uses the same video processing hardware, then it shouldn't have the image shift problem.

Thanks for the tip Claus.

Also, does anyone know if either the 75H or 85H includes component and HDMI cables? Sony's website isn't clear on what's included with them.

Itsdon
11-19-06, 03:49 PM
Neither player includes either cables you mentioned. They only come with the silly RCA red/white/yellow cables so figure on buying a cable when you budget for this.

Steff3
11-19-06, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the tip Claus.

Also, does anyone know if either the 75H or 85H includes component and HDMI cables? Sony's website isn't clear on what's included with them.

Just got the 85H and although I have yet to connect it, the box does not contain HDMI or component cables, only one standard AV cable.

WaldorfSalad
11-19-06, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the tip Claus.

Also, does anyone know if either the 75H or 85H includes component and HDMI cables? Sony's website isn't clear on what's included with them.No, but the 71H (from Costco, Sams and Amazon) does. The 71H is the same as the 75H but includes a (cheap) HDMI cable.

Barrelfish
11-19-06, 10:34 PM
Just today, I bought this DVD player for my girlfriend and it has TERRIBLE jaggies, primarily in the red family of colors. I put on The Incredibles and the jaggies were really bad in the costumes. On Finding Nemo, Nemo looked lousy as well.

I am using component cable (no HDMI on TV) connected to a Mits 55857, so it should not look this bad. I figured I would get some thoughts here before I return it since there is no way I will let her keep it with such poor image quality.

That being said, I just bought a new Mits 65831 and gave her the above, taking it to her house today. Is there any chance the bumps from the drive may have caused something to happen to the TV itself? (I may hook the player up to my tv and see what it looks like.)

Any thoughts as to what the problem might be? I'm tempted to just return it and get an Oppo for her but I thought if anyone might have good info, it would be the people here.

Thanks!

Doug_Eldred
11-20-06, 09:46 AM
As someone noted last week, you can reduce the intensity of the blue HDMI light by adjusting the "dimmer" setting, which also dims the main digits display after a few seconds. It's still fairly bright, IMO, but less so. I'd just as soon it weren't there, or still dimmer, but it's not really a big deal either, at least with my equipment arrangement.

Doug

Jay_Davis
11-20-06, 05:42 PM
Just today, I bought this DVD player for my girlfriend and it has TERRIBLE jaggies, primarily in the red family of colors. I put on The Incredibles and the jaggies were really bad in the costumes. On Finding Nemo, Nemo looked lousy as well.

I am using component cable (no HDMI on TV) connected to a Mits 55857, so it should not look this bad. I figured I would get some thoughts here before I return it since there is no way I will let her keep it with such poor image quality.

That being said, I just bought a new Mits 65831 and gave her the above, taking it to her house today. Is there any chance the bumps from the drive may have caused something to happen to the TV itself? (I may hook the player up to my tv and see what it looks like.)

Any thoughts as to what the problem might be? I'm tempted to just return it and get an Oppo for her but I thought if anyone might have good info, it would be the people here.

Thanks!


I don't have those problems at all with this DVD player. Perhaps you have a bad cable, connection, or just a bad player.

The only way the DVD player could hurt the TV is if it had a severe electical problem, which would most likely cause much more serious issues if it was to occur.

Doug_Eldred
11-20-06, 05:48 PM
The fact that it's affecting mostly red sounds suspicious. If you have problems only with DVDs, it's probably the DVD player or its connections or settings (at either end); if you have similar terrible jaggies from other sources, it's probably the bouncy TV. And, as you suggest, trying this DVD player on a known-good TV, and a known-good DVD player on her TV, would be great things to try, too.

Doug

ElwayLite
11-24-06, 03:27 PM
I have a resolution setting question for the upscale due to bringing home a different tv.

I just bought a 46" Sony rear projection lcd (2000e) and was wondering since it was 720p, should I just set the Sony at 720p and run with that?

Buddy C
11-24-06, 03:32 PM
I have a resolution setting question for the upscale due to bringing home a different tv.

I just bought a 46" Sony rear projection lcd (2000e) and was wondering since it was 720p, should I just set the Sony at 720p and run with that?

Yes

ElwayLite
11-24-06, 03:45 PM
Thanks Buddy.

If someone can point me to a post/article about upconverting dvd players I like to learn more about how they work.

I think what I do not understand is why a dvd player that upscales to your native resolution is better than sending 480p to a 720p tv and letting the tv do it. Maybe it's two different processes and I am not understanding it.

thanks

Itsdon
11-24-06, 04:10 PM
It really depends on which device has the better scaler, the TV or DVD player. Only real way to know is to try all combinations and see what looks best. The reason most folks like this player is that the scaler is top notch and in most cases exceeds what you'll find inside your display device.

WaldorfSalad
11-24-06, 04:29 PM
If someone can point me to a post/article about upconverting dvd players I like to learn more about how they work. See the sticky threads at the top of the listing page for this forum.

lmacmil
11-24-06, 05:23 PM
It really depends on which device has the better scaler, the TV or DVD player. The reason most folks like this player is that the scaler is top notch and in most cases exceeds what you'll find inside your display device.

Is it reasonable to assume that the Sony DVD scaler and the Sony TV scaler would be the same?

rsonnens
11-24-06, 07:08 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that the Sony DVD scaler and the Sony TV scaler would be the same?

I think that is hard to know because they are always trying to improve them. However I can't see a real difference between the scaler on my Sony v2500 and the 75H.

However the signal is better using HDMI becuase you have no artifacts from analog signal loss; but that too might be hard to notice when viewing a movie.

Buddy C
11-25-06, 12:43 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that the Sony DVD scaler and the Sony TV scaler would be the same?

For 720p TVs, many folks buy the 75H and set the output to upscale to 1080i thinking they will get a better picture on their 720p sets. The way I look at it, that action creates a worse picture because you are converting twice, upconverting on the DVD player, then downconverting on the TV. It's "sort of" like making a copy of an enhanced copy. If you want to see how your TV scales, set the DVD player output to 480p also when trying options. That way you see how the TV scales alone, then try the other scenario settings. I used an action sequence from the Star Wars Episode 3 DVD to test my results.

ElwayLite
11-25-06, 12:53 PM
After hooking up my new e2000 and the upscale sony, I found that 1080i did look better on the battlestar dvd last night. Less fuzzy

petergaryr
11-25-06, 12:54 PM
For 720p TVs, many folks buy the 75H and set the output to upscale to 1080i thinking they will get a better picture on their 720p sets. The way I look at it, that action creates a worse picture because you are converting twice, upconverting on the DVD player, then downconverting on the TV. It's "sort of" like making a copy of an enhanced copy. If you want to see how your TV scales, set the DVD player output to 480p also when trying options. That way you see how the TV scales alone, then try the other scenario settings. I used an action sequence from the Star Wars Episode 3 DVD to test my results.

Good point. 720p output on the 75H to my Sony 50E2000 produces by far the best results.

boostfrenzy
11-26-06, 06:13 AM
I've had this unit for a few months now on a RCA L32WD12 via HDMI and I must say either the scaler in my TV is good or this upconversion thing is 100% hype, I can't see much (if any?) difference between 480p 720p and 1080i, but I leave it @ 1080i because SOMETIMES I *think* it's a TOUCH more crisp than the others, tried all combinations of settings... ended up with Dynamic 1 video, BNR/MNR left off and I just play movies... don't get me wrong, I like everything about the player, but it in no way even comes remotely close to any true HD quality content, which I understand no upconverter will be magic, but in my case I didn't notice anything over the pioneer 480p I had over component...

standard DVD's just look like crap now next to HD content / bluray / hd-dvd :(

lmacmil
11-26-06, 11:09 AM
I can't see much (if any?) difference between 480p 720p and 1080i, ... but in my case I didn't notice anything over the pioneer 480p I had over component...
:(

Thanks for the input. I've been debating whether to get this Sony to match the recently acquired 50E2000. The picture from my Panny S27 at 480p looks pretty good to me although that player ranks near the bottom of the DVD player benchmark ratings. Since it's only about $115 I may get it just to get the HDMI connection and the ability to use the TV remote for the DVD player also.

Steff3
11-26-06, 02:58 PM
I recently purchased the NC85H. I connected a few days ago but only last night had my first opportunity to view a DVD. I am connected via HDMI to my JVC 56G888. I have it set at 1080i.

My previous player was a JVCXV-N512S but was turning off during DVD playback so I purchased this Sony so to take advantage of the 5 disc changer and do away with my ancient Phillips CD changer that was on its last leg.

At any rate, last night we watched Da Vinci Code and first impressions of this player was great. A much clearer, crisper image then the JVC player. Not HD of course but closer than I had on the JVC. Perhaps the scaler in the 85H does a better job than the TV although I always thought the 56G886 had done a pretty good job. As we got into the movie I did notice on the darkest scenes (and there are a lot of them) a bit of macro blocking. I don't recall noticing this on the previous player however since I do realize this when watching via satellite or OTA I may not have paid much attention to it until I was really looking for it. Don't get me wrong, the extent of the blocking was minimal and had I not been scrutinizing this player I may not had given it a second thought. The audio is great on both DVDs & CDs.

I have yet to try it using component so have no comparison there.

Just my .02 :)

Doug_Eldred
11-27-06, 09:53 AM
For 720p TVs, many folks buy the 75H and set the output to upscale to 1080i thinking they will get a better picture on their 720p sets. The way I look at it, that action creates a worse picture because you are converting twice, upconverting on the DVD player, then downconverting on the TV. It's "sort of" like making a copy of an enhanced copy. If you want to see how your TV scales, set the DVD player output to 480p also when trying options. That way you see how the TV scales alone, then try the other scenario settings. I used an action sequence from the Star Wars Episode 3 DVD to test my results.

Yeah, but if my TV is really 1024x768 plasma then EITHER 720p or 1080i will involve two conversions - one in the Sony, and another up/down to 768 lines in the TV. Since down conversions, like JPEG, are "better" than up-conversions (i.e. it's easier to average pixels than to create entirely new pixels) my logic and so far viewing suggest that 1080i is "better" on my TV.

Doug

ElwayLite
11-27-06, 09:57 AM
After further viewing the 720 vs 1080 on dvd's, I am coming to believe that the 720p setting does look slightly cleaner than the 1080i on my 720p sony tv.

Doug_Eldred
11-27-06, 10:31 AM
In theory at least, 720p (being progressive) should be better for fast-moving action, especially if that's close to the TV's native resolution.

Barrelfish
11-28-06, 02:05 AM
The fact that it's affecting mostly red sounds suspicious. If you have problems only with DVDs, it's probably the DVD player or its connections or settings (at either end); if you have similar terrible jaggies from other sources, it's probably the bouncy TV. And, as you suggest, trying this DVD player on a known-good TV, and a known-good DVD player on her TV, would be great things to try, too.

Doug


Tried the NS75H on my Mits 65831 and it looked great. Now I need to figure out what is wrong with the Mits 55857.

Back to the actual player, I was really impressed with the IQ. Not bad for a low cost player, even when compared to my Pioneer Elite DV-37. I can certainly recommend this Sony to others!

vtpossum
11-28-06, 05:52 PM
I am looking at getting this player due to the fact that my old PS2 has some serious adio sync troubles on my new LCD. I first thought it was all the tv's fault but I hooked up a cheap apex player and the sync problem was much better. After much reading I found out that many LCD and Plasma's have audio sync problems due to the slower processing of the picture compared to tube tv's. I saw that this player has the audio sync correction but to my understanding it does not work with dolby digital! Is this still the case or have they fixed that? If this player is not able to slow the audio down then does anybody have a suggestion of a good DVD player that can??

WaldorfSalad
11-28-06, 05:56 PM
I am looking at getting this player due to the fact that my old PS2 has some serious adio sync troubles on my new LCD. I first thought it was all the tv's fault but I hooked up a cheap apex player and the sync problem was much better. After much reading I found out that many LCD and Plasma's have audio sync problems due to the slower processing of the picture compared to tube tv's. I saw that this player has the audio sync correction but to my understanding it does not work with dolby digital! Is this still the case or have they fixed that? If this player is not able to slow the audio down then does anybody have a suggestion of a good DVD player that can??The Sony NS75 (and NC85) delay does NOT work with the dolby digital optical/coaxial outputs. The Panasonic S52 does. I have both the Sony NC85 and the Panasonic S52. I have found that very few DVDs have a lip synch problem with either player.

vtpossum
11-28-06, 06:55 PM
Why would my PS2 have such problems and my cheap player not? I got my PS2 the week it came out so that could have something to do with it. Funny thing is that I did not notice this on my old 27 inch tube tv. I like sony products plus I like the price of this DVD player so I may still get it. I am kinda stuck with getting a player at CC since I've got a bunch of gift certificates from there to spend. The only other DVD player they had that I liked was the Denon but from what I've read on these posts the sony is just as good.

Doug_Eldred
11-29-06, 09:34 AM
Maybe the PS2 is the CAUSE of some of the problems? After all, if the issue is video speed versus audio speed, anything in the end-to-end connection could introduce a delay, right?

Doug

kkt
11-29-06, 10:23 AM
After further viewing the 720 vs 1080 on dvd's, I am coming to believe that the 720p setting does look slightly cleaner than the 1080i on my 720p sony tv.
I can see the logic in setting the NS75 at 720p for 720p lcd or plasma. But for a 1080p display like the XBR2 or XBR3, what do you guys think is the recommended upconverted resolution as either 720p or 1080i will still require another upconvert by the TV? Thanks for any answer to this question.

lzrdking28
11-29-06, 06:29 PM
I heard that the ns75h does not upconvert to 720p or 1080i unless you are using the HDMI connection. Or else you are stuck with 480p on the progressive scan mode. I am currrently using a component connection through a digital AVR.

Has anyone seen the difference between using the HDMI and Component connections due to accessing the 720p or 1080i formats?

I have a panasonic 8uk TV and a panasonic xr57 AVR that that hdmi connection will run through. Does the TV or AVR upconvert for me or will the dvd player do the upconverting? How does this work?

I just ordered an HDMI blade for the TV and two HDMI cables to get a better picture on the this player. Hoping this was worth the money spent.

DrNate
11-29-06, 06:40 PM
okay, I have a simple probem and would like an answer if anyone could help. First of all, I'm a newb and this is my first post. Second of all, I don't intend to hijack this thread--but I just bought this Sony player.

I also have a new Sharp Aquos LCD TV (1080p).

My question is this:
Why is it that some movies I put in and play and the picture takes up the whole screen, while some movies (Cars, for example) remains in letterbox? This is driving me crazy--this is the whole reason why I bought a widescreen TV to avoid the stinkin' letterbox effect.

Also, I messed with all the settings on TV and DVD player I can think of (DVD is in 16:9 mode, etc)

Thanks if you can help!

vtpossum
11-29-06, 07:02 PM
Movies are presented in different aspect ratios. Just because it is a widescreen movie does not mean it will be presented in full widescreen. There are 3 or 4 different ratios dvd's are presented in and they will show bars on top and bottom. The only way to get rid of them is to zoom in. From what I have read this player will show the "2X" in the corner and won't go away. My LCD also has a zoom but also shows the "2X" and it is annoying. I wouldn't let the bars bother you because you are watching the movie as it was meant to be shown.

Tigershark
11-29-06, 08:09 PM
Maybe the PS2 is the CAUSE of some of the problems? After all, if the issue is video speed versus audio speed, anything in the end-to-end connection could introduce a delay, right?

Doug


Considering how old the PS2 is (I think the poster said he got it the 1st week it came out), and that the PS2 CAN play DVDs, but wasn't designed for the sole purpose of playing DVDs, I would point the finger at the PS2 as causing the problem.

Stupac
11-30-06, 01:00 AM
okay, I have a simple probem and would like an answer if anyone could help. First of all, I'm a newb and this is my first post. Second of all, I don't intend to hijack this thread--but I just bought this Sony player.

I also have a new Sharp Aquos LCD TV (1080p).

My question is this:
Why is it that some movies I put in and play and the picture takes up the whole screen, while some movies (Cars, for example) remains in letterbox? This is driving me crazy--this is the whole reason why I bought a widescreen TV to avoid the stinkin' letterbox effect.

Also, I messed with all the settings on TV and DVD player I can think of (DVD is in 16:9 mode, etc)

Thanks if you can help!

If it says Widescreen Letterbox on the DVD then you will have the black bars. Try to find none letterbox Widescreen DVD's to avoid this.

I think it's stupid they do this also.

AVnoobie
11-30-06, 01:11 AM
I created a thread for this issue before I saw this thread dedicated to the DVP-NS75H:

I just bought the DVP-NS75H for my LG 30FS4D Widescreen CRT. For the most part, the image looks great with the HDMI but I've noticed that the background gets really pixelated at some parts. This is particularly noticeable when it's a solid color background such as the sky or a curtain of some sort. Has anyone else encountered this problem?

lmacmil
11-30-06, 07:28 AM
If it says Widescreen Letterbox on the DVD then you will have the black bars.

If the widescreen format is the same as the TV, i.e., 1.78:1 there won't be any black bars. If it is a wider screen format, e.g., 2.35:1, then you you will.

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 09:32 AM
I heard that the ns75h does not upconvert to 720p or 1080i unless you are using the HDMI connection. Or else you are stuck with 480p on the progressive scan mode. I am currrently using a component connection through a digital AVR.

Has anyone seen the difference between using the HDMI and Component connections due to accessing the 720p or 1080i formats?

I have a panasonic 8uk TV and a panasonic xr57 AVR that that hdmi connection will run through. Does the TV or AVR upconvert for me or will the dvd player do the upconverting? How does this work?

I just ordered an HDMI blade for the TV and two HDMI cables to get a better picture on the this player. Hoping this was worth the money spent.

I believe you're correct, though I've only used my NS75H on HDMI; my two component inputs are being used for other things. Up-scaling aside, some people report better results for a given TV/DVD player via HDMI or via component, so trying both is a good thing on general principles. Doesn't your A/V receiver do up-scaling?

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe you can choose whether the DVD player, the A/V receiver, or the TV does the up-scaling. For sure you can choose whether or not the NS75H does any up-scaling or not; I'd assume something similar for the A/V receiver. If neither does it, and the TV sees 480i or 480p, it'll do the up-scaling.

Doug

Cranioclast
11-30-06, 11:19 AM
I'm an OAR curmudgeon with a 9UK plasma display and my NC85H is making me very uncomfortable. I've had it for a couple months with no complaints until I recently got the complete Six Feet Under series, which is in 4:3 and tends to be very bright. After watching three episodes back-to-back, I could see the pillarbox bars clearly burned into the screen. Even after running the display's image cleaner for 10-15 minutes, I could still see them.

The point is, my DVR and TV both let me select background colors for the sidebars and I don't have any image retention problems to speak of. The NC85H doesn't seem to have any such control and, if I want to use the upconversion feature, it outputs 4:3 content as 16:9 with black sidebars.

Is there a setting I'm missing or should I be looking for a new DVD player?
Thanks in advance if you've got any suggestions...

lzrdking28
11-30-06, 11:33 AM
I believe you're correct, though I've only used my NS75H on HDMI; my two component inputs are being used for other things. Up-scaling aside, some people report better results for a given TV/DVD player via HDMI or via component, so trying both is a good thing on general principles. Doesn't your A/V receiver do up-scaling?

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe you can choose whether the DVD player, the A/V receiver, or the TV does the up-scaling. For sure you can choose whether or not the NS75H does any up-scaling or not; I'd assume something similar for the A/V receiver. If neither does it, and the TV sees 480i or 480p, it'll do the up-scaling.

Doug

how do you choose if the ns75h does upscaling? By the way im not sure in my receiver does upscaling (panasonic xr 57).

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 11:46 AM
I can't see the menus at the moment, but it's well documented in the manual. I believe there are several options, some including "stretch" modes, but I'm working from memory so I could be mistaken or thinking of another component in my setup. If the manual and/or other posts don't help I'll try to check the actual menu later.

FWIW I'm currently upscaling to 1080i, but 720p might also make sense. I have a 1024x768 native resolution plasma. The argument for 720p is obviously progressive, while the argument for 1080i is that an upscale and an in-TV downscale to 768 lines might arguably be "better" than an upscale to 720p and then another upscale to 768 lines; creating pixels is usually worse than averaging pixels. That said, both look roughly the same to me, in casual viewing of normal DVDs. Someone with a better eye or with a more "stressing" DVD might conclude that one or the other is clearly "better".

Doug

lzrdking28
11-30-06, 12:02 PM
I can't see the menus at the moment, but it's well documented in the manual. I believe there are several options, some including "stretch" modes, but I'm working from memory so I could be mistaken or thinking of another component in my setup. If the manual and/or other posts don't help I'll try to check the actual menu later.

FWIW I'm currently upscaling to 1080i, but 720p might also make sense. I have a 1024x768 native resolution plasma. The argument for 720p is obviously progressive, while the argument for 1080i is that an upscale and an in-TV downscale to 768 lines might arguably be "better" than an upscale to 720p and then another upscale to 768 lines; creating pixels is usually worse than averaging pixels. That said, both look roughly the same to me, in casual viewing of normal DVDs. Someone with a better eye or with a more "stressing" DVD might conclude that one or the other is clearly "better".

Doug

doug, how are you choosing what upscaling you are doing? is there a menu option i am missing somewhere? i have a 50 inch so i guess native resolution is a little different from yours but how do you know what you are upscaling to?

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 12:15 PM
I'm nearly certain it's a menu option, described in the manual, but it'll be tonight before I can double-check.

Looking at the online manual, it's around page 61. It's in custom settings.

lzrdking28
11-30-06, 12:33 PM
I'm nearly certain it's a menu option, described in the manual, but it'll be tonight before I can double-check.

Looking at the online manual, it's around page 61. It's in custom settings.

well i am looking at the manual right now and on page 63 there is some stuff about hdmi resolution and output, but the manual doesn't menttion upscaling. Right now i guess my dvd player is set to auto mode which selects the best output automatically. There are choiuces for auto, 1080i, 720p, or 480p. but until i get my hdmi stuff, i guess i can't access these higher resolutions anyways.

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 12:41 PM
Right, I think it's documented as HDMI-only scaling.

lzrdking28
11-30-06, 12:56 PM
ok cool, thanks for clearing that up.

Now if my AVR had scaling features, how would that complicate things. Should I turn it off and then let the signal pass unaltered into the tv and let the tv do the rest?

i checked and my tv is 1355x768 native resolution.

TTwaltham
11-30-06, 12:56 PM
Just got a Sony 50A2000 (SXRD) -- how should I configure the 75H to get the best possible picture quality? FWIW, the SXRD just arrived yesterday, so I haven't had an opportunity to play with any settings yet, but I did notice some jaggies while looking at "Cars" on DVD last night. I never saw any jaggies on my old TV, a 42WE610. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 01:05 PM
ok cool, thanks for clearing that up.

Now if my AVR had scaling features, how would that complicate things. Should I turn it off and then let the signal pass unaltered into the tv and let the tv do the rest?

i checked and my tv is 1355x768 native resolution.

That's where things get subjective. If you have multiple possible places for upscaling to occur, you should pick the one that TO YOU looks best. The Sony is supposed to have a pretty good upscaler. It may or may not be better than what's in your A/V receiver, or your TV for that matter. Probably the best approach is to watch the same DVD(s) and see which TO YOU seems to give the clearest pictures, fewest artifacts, etc. The combinations and permutations of DVDs, players, A/V receivers, TVs, cables, etc. almost guarantee that there's no universal "right answer". In the end, as long as you're happy, it's "right".

Another piece of the puzzle is available ports. If you only have one HDMI port, you might decide that another piece of equipment should use it, and then you'd probably "have to" have something other than the NS75H do the upscaling, since that only works on its HDMI output.

I think you want only ONE box to be scaling though; having both the DVD player AND the A/V receiver do so is probably a bad idea.

Doug

lzrdking28
11-30-06, 01:22 PM
ok

also i was just looking. my dvd player supports hdmi 1.2 but the AVR only 1.1 and the tv probably 1.2 again. does this matter? by the way sorry for so many questions

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 01:25 PM
I doubt that HDMI versions matter much for this, but I'm not an expert.

Doug_Eldred
11-30-06, 04:18 PM
Just got a Sony 50A2000 (SXRD) -- how should I configure the 75H to get the best possible picture quality? FWIW, the SXRD just arrived yesterday, so I haven't had an opportunity to play with any settings yet, but I did notice some jaggies while looking at "Cars" on DVD last night. I never saw any jaggies on my old TV, a 42WE610. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!
There's no "one size fits all" answer, except possibly hiring a pro to do the setup and calibration. I'd certainly start with getting the TV set up as best you can, for whatever inputs you have, and then try adjusting the DVD player. I'd assume you'd want progressive output, at whatever resolution matches your TV's native resolution best. Tweaking things like brightness, contrast, etc. are good, but won't affect jaggies. This player probably outputs best via HDMI, if you can do that at the TV end. You might want to see which does better up-converting - the DVD player, your A/V receiver if any, or the TV. There's a LOT that can be adjusted on the Sony, but you should probably get decent stuff with out-of-the-box settings, unless the TV is especially picky.

All this is general common sense stuff, but as Hercule Poirot would say "order and method" are good. Don't tweak everything simultaneously. Work on the big stuff first.

With all the combinations and permutations of media, DVD players, A/V receivers, cables, TVs, etc. there's no magic always-right answer. In the end, YOU are the one who has to be happy (yourself, your family, whatever), not some theoretical formula and not someone else with different eyes, experience, fussiness, etc.

Doug

Zues
12-02-06, 12:06 PM
proud owner for over a month now and just started playing with the settings. Was wondering if people leave the picture mode on 'standard' or use 'cinema 1' 'cinema 2' or 'dynamic 1' or 'dynamic 2'. I read through this thread a while back and I don't remember a lot of people commenting on this. Personally I thought 'cinema 2' looked pretty good and was wondering what others use? I'm guessing most people leave it on standard.

Actually the memory option is the best. Click on to memory and you will have the most options to tweak.

Kracko
12-02-06, 02:01 PM
I am using the Cinema 1 mode.

bgillyjcu
12-02-06, 04:18 PM
HOLY CRAP THIS DVD PLAYER IS THE BEST THING EVER!

I have this running at 720P through HDMI into my 55E2000 and the picture is something special!

I am so shocked that the picture can look THIS DAMN GOOD.....WOW.

btiltman
12-02-06, 04:40 PM
Can anyone tell if it is the same machine with a different model number because its an overseas version?

http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22814#

petergaryr
12-02-06, 07:12 PM
Can anyone tell if it is the same machine with a different model number because its an overseas version?

http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22814#

From the picture and the description of its specs, I'd say yes.

digitalman4242
12-03-06, 10:47 AM
I have the Sony A10 "42 HDTV LCD Projection, do you think I would notice much of a difference using this DVD player hooked up with HDMI versus using my 360 hooked up with components for DVD's?

Itsdon
12-03-06, 11:03 AM
I am using the Cinema 1 mode.

I use this setting also, it's the one that allows the player to pass BTB.

bgillyjcu
12-03-06, 12:27 PM
I use this setting also, it's the one that allows the player to pass BTB.


what is BTB?

digitalman4242
12-03-06, 12:52 PM
Hey buddy, which DVD player were you using before you got this one?? I am wondering if upgrading to this with HDMI will look better than my 360 playing movies with component. I have a $100 circuit city gift card and dont know what to spend it on, also I hear I should just go to Walmart and get like a phillips HDMI cable for $25 cause the expensive Monsters wont make a difference with HDMI??? Is there a noticable difference with HDMI VS Component connections??

HOLY CRAP THIS DVD PLAYER IS THE BEST THING EVER!

I have this running at 720P through HDMI into my 55E2000 and the picture is something special!

I am so shocked that the picture can look THIS DAMN GOOD.....WOW.

Itsdon
12-03-06, 01:14 PM
what is BTB?

Blacker than Black (or Below black). It allows you to calibrate your display by showing the below black bars.

bgillyjcu
12-03-06, 03:39 PM
I upgraded from a Sony 715P.

Looks pretty good. Now I have to mess around with Cinema 1 and 2 since people say to use that.

rsonnens
12-03-06, 03:46 PM
Hey buddy, which DVD player were you using before you got this one?? I am wondering if upgrading to this with HDMI will look better than my 360 playing movies with component. I have a $100 circuit city gift card and dont know what to spend it on, also I hear I should just go to Walmart and get like a phillips HDMI cable for $25 cause the expensive Monsters wont make a difference with HDMI??? Is there a noticable difference with HDMI VS Component connections??
That is very hard to answer. I had a Panny 480P (component) DVD player and the quality of the output is nearly identical to the 75H running 1080i out to HDMI when viewing "enhanced for widescreen" Dvds. In both cases the picture is awesome on my 1080p Sony v2500.

However this 75H is more 'family' friendly than my other player although I find the load time a little too slow.

You also DO NOT need expensive HDMI cables. Just buy something ($12ish) from monoprice. Some upconverting player include the HDMI cable.

bizeesheri
12-03-06, 09:31 PM
Today, had my new Panasonic 50" installed, I had purchased this DVD player and a HDMI cable (online) so all was waiting. I will caveat all my questions by saying that most of my equipment does not have the newer connections. I'm a bit unfamiliar with it all. I had been hooking up various components (video to the tv and audio to my receiver) Using either the standard a/v cords or s-video or coax.

My receiver does not have any connections available except the red/white audio. I do plan on getting a new receiver shortly that will take all a/v and then let me send it all via ONE HDMI cable to the TV.

I put in Shrek and the picture is WONDERFUL. I doubt my kids ever leave home now with this new toy. :) I have it hooked up via HDMI. I also hooked up the red/white audio cables to my receiver. I was getting two sounds and now only have the HDMI setup. I've tried to read about getting it hooked up to the a/v receiver and wonder, will I have to wait until I get a new receiver and use another cabling situation?

I also put in a dvd backed up via computer and got no sound. I see in the troubleshooting about playing back Super VCD, but didn't understand their answer (page 69 of manual).

Bill McNeal
12-03-06, 09:54 PM
I'm experiencing some colorbanding/contouring from my Sony NC85H to my Panny plasma PX60U through component output only. HDMI looks fine. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

rosh400
12-04-06, 09:11 AM
If it says Widescreen Letterbox on the DVD then you will have the black bars. Try to find none letterbox Widescreen DVD's to avoid this.

I think it's stupid they do this also.

The "they" you refer to is the director who makes the decision regarding aspect ratio of the movie. Directors decide based on artistic considerations, not for the convenience of some HDTV owners who don't want black bars.

As a previous poster pointed out, 16:9 which is the proportions of HDTV screens has an aspect ratio of 1.78:1. Most movies made today have an aspect ratio of 1.85:1. Some have ratios of 2.35:1. I believe Ben Hur is even wider. Imagine the chariot race scene if you had to narrow it down to 1.78:1. Which would you rather have, the full dramatic impact of the width of the two chariots or no black bars?

What I think was the foolis decision was to set the HDTV format to 1.78 to 1. As most movies are 1.85 to 1, it seems to me that would have been a better choice.

P.S. A good reason to by TVs with black bevels is that the black bars blend in the the bevels so you don't notice them.

TTwaltham
12-04-06, 11:13 AM
Is anyone else with a 75H connected to a Sony SXRD (I have a 50A2000) disappointed with the picture? Mine is connected via HDMI, set to 1920 x 1080, and progressive auto/on (progressive off doesn't seem to be an option). The SXRD menu settings are copied from CNET's recommendations (HD cable looks great). In short, the picture looks soft, lacks detail, and suffers from a case of the jaggies. Definitly lacking any wow-factor. In fact, my 75H produced a much better picture when it was connected to a GWIII. Am I missing something??? Please help.

petergaryr
12-04-06, 11:45 AM
Is anyone else with a 75H connected to a Sony SXRD (I have a 50A2000) disappointed with the picture? Mine is connected via HDMI, set to 1920 x 1080, and progressive auto/on (progressive off doesn't seem to be an option). The SXRD menu settings are copied from CNET's recommendations (HD cable looks great). In short, the picture looks soft, lacks detail, and suffers from a case of the jaggies. Definitly lacking any wow-factor. In fact, my 75H produced a much better picture when it was connected to a GWIII. Am I missing something??? Please help.

I can't imagine what could be causing that. My 75H is connected via HDMI to a 50E2000 and the results are extremely good, almost HD quality.

Something is wrong either with the player, the cable, or the settings. From what you have written, it sounds like you have pressed the "Display" button on the 75H and have set all of the options. How about pressing it a second time to get to the advanced picture options? There you can adjust BNR and MNR, as well as other picture settings, though "Standard" seemes to work best for me.

ElwayLite
12-04-06, 11:55 AM
I can't imagine what could be causing that. My 75H is connected via HDMI to a 50E2000 and the results are extremely good, almost HD quality.

Something is wrong either with the player, the cable, or the settings. From what you have written, it sounds like you have pressed the "Display" button on the 75H and have set all of the options. How about pressing it a second time to get to the advanced picture options? There you can adjust BNR and MNR, as well as other picture settings, though "Standard" seemes to work best for me.

Peter,

I have a 46E connected to this DVD player converting to 720p. What are your video settings currently on the TV(when you get a chance).

petergaryr
12-04-06, 12:17 PM
Peter,

I have a 46E connected to this DVD player converting to 720p. What are your video settings currently on the TV(when you get a chance).

After literally weeks of playing around with the settings, I finally did a reset and found that the "Standard" Picture settings on the 50E2000 actually wound up producing the best overall picture. I did make 1 modification, and that was with Sharpness. I reduced that to 10 because the default of 50 looked too unnatural.

However, before just using Standard, here is what my last experimental settings were:

Auto Iris 2
Picture: 90
Brightness: 45
Color: 40
Hue: 0
Temperature: Neutral
Shaprness: 0

Advanced:
Black Corrector: High
Gamma: Off
Clear White: Off
Color Corrector: High

Those actually produced a pretty good picture with deep blacks and overall natural color/hue balances.

DistortedDesigns
12-04-06, 12:29 PM
Is there a hack for this player that will let you play HD through componet?

Civil
12-04-06, 01:28 PM
I have this player, but don't have the manual. I'm connected via component, but I can't find anywhere in the settings to force 480p over component, I'm pretty sure I'm only getting a 480i signal. I'm getting to the settings by stopping DVD playback (the blue screen), and hitting Display on the remote. When I go to the vid settings, most only apply to HDMI it seems. Other players I've had (Samsung, etc) had a specific setting for 480p (or 540p?) and I could definitely tell what I was getting.

Any clues?

Doug_Eldred
12-04-06, 01:37 PM
The manual is online at Sony's web site. I believe the only up-conversion that occurs is via HDMI.

Doug

inca
12-04-06, 01:50 PM
I don't think anyone has hacked anything sony to allow HD-DVD over component, since sony is a staunch supporter of HDMI-HDCP protection. But is still has a nice progressive output via the component cables, it only upconverts throug HDMI.

TTwaltham
12-04-06, 01:56 PM
I can't imagine what could be causing that. My 75H is connected via HDMI to a 50E2000 and the results are extremely good, almost HD quality.

Something is wrong either with the player, the cable, or the settings. From what you have written, it sounds like you have pressed the "Display" button on the 75H and have set all of the options. How about pressing it a second time to get to the advanced picture options? There you can adjust BNR and MNR, as well as other picture settings, though "Standard" seemes to work best for me.

petergaryr -- You're right on. I haven't gone into the advanced settings menu yet. As soon as I read your post I remembered going through the exact same scenario when I first connected the 75H to my old GWIII. At first I was disappointed in the PQ then too, but once I got into the advanced settings and made a few changes, the improvement was dramatic. I'm hoping that I'll have similar results when I adjust the advanced settings tonight. Thanks for jogging my memory!!

Civil
12-04-06, 02:06 PM
The manual is online at Sony's web site. I believe the only up-conversion that occurs is via HDMI.

Doug
Could you link to the manual? This is as close as I could get.

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DVPNS75H&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=hav_DVD_DVDPlayers

I'm not worried about upconverting, I only want to get a progressive signal (480p), rather than 480i over component. It's hooked up to my EDTV, which I'm positive is capable of a 480p signal, as my previous DVD player and game consoles have done.

EDIT: Okay, I'm dumb. I found the manual myself, and found that there's a "progressive" button on the front of the player. I never bothered to look before. Oops. :)

petergaryr
12-04-06, 03:52 PM
petergaryr -- You're right on. I haven't gone into the advanced settings menu yet. As soon as I read your post I remembered going through the exact same scenario when I first connected the 75H to my old GWIII. At first I was disappointed in the PQ then too, but once I got into the advanced settings and made a few changes, the improvement was dramatic. I'm hoping that I'll have similar results when I adjust the advanced settings tonight. Thanks for jogging my memory!!

That's why we are all here!

btiltman
12-04-06, 03:56 PM
Does this player have PAL progressive or only NTSC progressive?

WaldorfSalad
12-04-06, 04:01 PM
Only NTSC. No PAL-to-NTSC conversion either. Also, it can't be made region free.

petergaryr
12-04-06, 04:25 PM
I don't think anyone has hacked anything sony to allow HD-DVD over component, since sony is a staunch supporter of HDMI-HDCP protection. But is still has a nice progressive output via the component cables, it only upconverts throug HDMI.

That is correct. Upconversion is available on the 75H only through HDMI.

Bill McNeal
12-04-06, 04:28 PM
Is the 75H's inability to be made region-free or upconvert over component also apply to the NC85H?

Doug_Eldred
12-04-06, 04:46 PM
Yes, since the only real difference is single-disk versus a changer.

Buddy C
12-04-06, 07:32 PM
Is the 75H's inability to be made region-free or upconvert over component also apply to the NC85H?

I believe that no DVD player upconverts over component. Only HDMI, DVI, and VGA allow for upconversion.

inca
12-04-06, 08:18 PM
I was looking at the oppo so it could work with my Z1, but after playing the sony through my Z1 with progressive turned off and letting the Z1 to the upscaling to its native format, I was pretty impressed. The Sony does an excellent job of sending the 480i signal to the projector, and then letting the projector do the converting,the signal looks amazing. I had a toshiba 4900 before that put out a decent progressive, but its output of 480i was horrible. The sony 480i with the z1 upscaling looked much, much more impressive then the toshiba 4900 did outputting with progressive. The Toshibas output of 480i was shameful.

Still, the sony's output with 1080i upconversion is clearly the winner of all. Its even better then my 36hs500's own internal upconversion, and thats saying something.

jpoints
12-04-06, 10:35 PM
The "they" you refer to is the director who makes the decision regarding aspect ratio of the movie. Directors decide based on artistic considerations, not for the convenience of some HDTV owners who don't want black bars.

As a previous poster pointed out, 16:9 which is the proportions of HDTV screens has an aspect ratio of 1.78:1. Most movies made today have an aspect ratio of 1.85:1. Some have ratios of 2.35:1. I believe Ben Hur is even wider. Imagine the chariot race scene if you had to narrow it down to 1.78:1. Which would you rather have, the full dramatic impact of the width of the two chariots or no black bars?

What I think was the foolis decision was to set the HDTV format to 1.78 to 1. As most movies are 1.85 to 1, it seems to me that would have been a better choice.

P.S. A good reason to by TVs with black bevels is that the black bars blend in the the bevels so you don't notice them.

I say the directors are stupid. I didn't buy a big tv for them to waste pixel space. Screw directors. They should step out of the stone age and adapt to the new technology.

WaldorfSalad
12-05-06, 12:31 AM
:rolleyes: grabs popcorn.

lastxbr960
12-05-06, 06:24 AM
HDTV makers should have adapted a 1:85to 1 ratio this would have eliminated most black bars except in the even wider film.
The directors are not wasting space it is the hdtv makers.
Popcorn time

petergaryr
12-05-06, 06:46 AM
I believe that no DVD player upconverts over component. Only HDMI, DVI, and VGA allow for upconversion.

Studios want to ensure that copy protection will be able to close the "analog gap", thus the push toward HDMI.

TTwaltham
12-05-06, 08:39 AM
I can't imagine what could be causing that. My 75H is connected via HDMI to a 50E2000 and the results are extremely good, almost HD quality.

Something is wrong either with the player, the cable, or the settings. From what you have written, it sounds like you have pressed the "Display" button on the 75H and have set all of the options. How about pressing it a second time to get to the advanced picture options? There you can adjust BNR and MNR, as well as other picture settings, though "Standard" seemes to work best for me.

Update: The advanced settings menu worked wonders for the 75H. I switched to Cinema 2 (1 and 2 were close, but 2 provided a bit more detail) and turned off BNR, MNR, and sharpness -- and just like that, the picture went from blah to wow. Thanks everyone for the advice!! :)

FWIW, if the new Oppo 981 performs as well as everyone in the DVD forum seems to expect it will, I might still pick one up for the SXRD and move my 75H into the bedroom, where I have a small Sony Bravia. But that's for another day. In the meantime, however, I'm happy to report that the 75H is definitely a keeper. Thanks again!

RJB70
12-05-06, 01:48 PM
I'm new to all of this I just bought a Sony KDS-50A2000 and a NS75H and a Pioneer VSX-816 receiver also have DishNet (going to be upgrading to the HD when they come in)

Quesions are on the DVD player what would be the best cabling setup? Should I run the HMDI to the TV and run the audio to the Receiver?

What have people seen as the best settings on the DVD player for picture (what is turned on and off)?

What should I set on the DVD player for the best suround sound out for DVD's (the receiver will do 7.1 if the source is there)


Thanks

Russ

gdog5775
12-05-06, 01:50 PM
Anybody using the NC85 as their primary CD player as well? How is it working out?

Thinking of picking one up to handle all disc avtivities. If it's not a good solution then maybe I should go with the NS75 and get a dedicated CDP......?

petergaryr
12-05-06, 03:52 PM
QUOTE=RJB70 I'm new to all of this I just bought a Sony KDS-50A2000 and a NS75H and a Pioneer VSX-816 receiver also have DishNet (going to be upgrading to the HD when they come in)

Quesions are on the DVD player what would be the best cabling setup? Should I run the HMDI to the TV and run the audio to the Receiver?

That is what I do and it works great.

What have people seen as the best settings on the DVD player for picture (what is turned on and off)?

It is a matter of taste, but I set the Picture to Standard and have BNR and MNR on, but Sharpness way down.

What should I set on the DVD player for the best suround sound out for DVD's (the receiver will do 7.1 if the source is there)

Dolby Digital should be on and if your receiver has a DTS decoder, that should be on as well.


Thanks

Russ]

petergaryr
12-05-06, 03:54 PM
Anybody using the NC85 as their primary CD player as well? How is it working out?

Thinking of picking one up to handle all disc avtivities. If it's not a good solution then maybe I should go with the NS75 and get a dedicated CDP......?

As long as you aren't interested in SACD (Sony makes a higher priced model with that capability), it is fine. I am using it that way for my bedroom system.

btiltman
12-05-06, 04:00 PM
Only NTSC. No PAL-to-NTSC conversion either. Also, it can't be made region free.

Thanks! The region free isnt an issue as its illegal to have region locked players over here so all new players are region free. Unfortunately the other issues are a problem for me.

Doug_Eldred
12-05-06, 04:08 PM
Wouldn't the model you asked about a while ago work? According to the web page it does PAL and NTSC.

http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22814#

gdog5775
12-05-06, 04:43 PM
As long as you aren't interested in SACD (Sony makes a higher priced model with that capability), it is fine. I am using it that way for my bedroom system.

Thanks petergaryr....I'm not interested in SACD so this could be the way to go. Out of curiosity, do you have both outputs from the player hooked to your AVR so you can use the proper input selector? Or do you just use one and play both DVD's & CD's thru the same channel so to speak?

petergaryr
12-05-06, 04:52 PM
Thanks petergaryr....I'm not interested in SACD so this could be the way to go. Out of curiosity, do you have both outputs from the player hooked to your AVR so you can use the proper input selector? Or do you just use one and play both DVD's & CD's thru the same channel so to speak?

I just use the optical out, but set the receiver to stereo only for music listening. I'm not a big fan of "enhanced" effects for music, though I do keep the sub running even for 2.0 music.

WaldorfSalad
12-05-06, 06:25 PM
Current NC85H (HDMI) 5-DVD changer does NOT have SACD.
Current NC80V (Component) 5-DVD changer DOES have SACD.
There is no higher priced model in Sony's 5-DVD changer line with SACD.
I wish they would carried SACD support over into the NC85H.
The NS90 is a single-disc player with SACD support.

JayMan007
12-05-06, 08:26 PM
Update: The advanced settings menu worked wonders for the 75H. I switched to Cinema 2 (1 and 2 were close, but 2 provided a bit more detail) and turned off BNR, MNR, and sharpness -- and just like that, the picture went from blah to wow. Thanks everyone for the advice!! :)


I just picked up this player. -Actually the 71H at Costco -they are supposed to be the same unit.

Anyway, are there any other suggested settings for this player?

bapufish
12-06-06, 02:18 AM
:rolleyes:

btiltman
12-06-06, 02:33 AM
Wouldn't the model you asked about a while ago work? According to the web page it does PAL and NTSC.

http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22814#

Yep... but when you look under the 'Specs' tab it says this:
"Progressive Modes: Precision Cinema Progressive (NTSC)" and I was just trying to find out if that means it doesnt do Progressive on PAL - which is what it sounds like.

FunkyELF
12-06-06, 08:27 AM
Hello,

I was wondering if this can send out 480p signals? I see 720p and 1080i but maybe they just don't list 480p...could someone verify?

My reason is that I have a 1080p TV and if it doesn't scale to 1080p I don't want it to scale at all and leave it in the native DVD resolution and let my TV handle the scaling while the DVD player handles the deinterlacing.

If this set doesn't, then I will consider buying the oppo 981 even though it has macroblocking issues.

~Eric

petergaryr
12-06-06, 08:29 AM
Hello,

I was wondering if this can send out 480p signals? I see 720p and 1080i but maybe they just don't list 480p...could someone verify?

My reason is that I have a 1080p TV and if it doesn't scale to 1080p I don't want it to scale at all and leave it in the native DVD resolution and let my TV handle the scaling while the DVD player handles the deinterlacing.

If this set doesn't, then I will consider buying the oppo 981 even though it has macroblocking issues.

~Eric

On the front panel there is a "progressive" button. That will send a 480p signal to your set.

inca
12-06-06, 09:53 AM
Is anyone else with a 75H connected to a Sony SXRD (I have a 50A2000) disappointed with the picture? Mine is connected via HDMI, set to 1920 x 1080, and progressive auto/on (progressive off doesn't seem to be an option). The SXRD menu settings are copied from CNET's recommendations (HD cable looks great). In short, the picture looks soft, lacks detail, and suffers from a case of the jaggies. Definitly lacking any wow-factor. In fact, my 75H produced a much better picture when it was connected to a GWIII. Am I missing something??? Please help.

I have a 50A2000, just got it yesterday ;) , and I think that the picture coming from the 75h into the tv via HDMI upconverted to 1080i looks about as close to HD as you are going to get from a 480i source, actually I'm still stunned that a DVD can look this good, HDTV does look better, its the colors in HDTV that really stand out to me, and the sharpness has an edge to in HDTV, but not by too much. Still, the picture I get coming from the 75H far surpasses what I expected it to be, my wife was even blown away, and well, all I have to say is that she is usually not to concerned with image quality. We were watching our favorite movie, LOTR, and she was just as stunned as I was about the quality. This TV looks better then my KVS-36H500 did, and thats a top of the line sony CRT HDTV, I probably think it looks so much better because I can see so much more detail, due to the fact that its so much bigger then the 36" 4:3 format TV. But that DVD player is amazing, definitely recommended by me.

Edit: Also, I would highly recommend to make some changes on your DVD settings themselves. Change the sharpness to 1, I know many people are against this, but this looks the best and not unnatural at all, and also set it to cinema 1 or 2. Do not use that BRE and MRI Crap or whatever it is that is under the sharpness options, it ruins the picture
1 thing that I noticed made a big difference was to turn down the sharpness on the TV alway down to 0, sounds weird, but now the picture is much sharper that way :confused:

Jay_Davis
12-06-06, 04:07 PM
Hello,

I was wondering if this can send out 480p signals? I see 720p and 1080i but maybe they just don't list 480p...could someone verify?

My reason is that I have a 1080p TV and if it doesn't scale to 1080p I don't want it to scale at all and leave it in the native DVD resolution and let my TV handle the scaling while the DVD player handles the deinterlacing.

If this set doesn't, then I will consider buying the oppo 981 even though it has macroblocking issues.

~Eric

Duplicating my response from the other thread:

Yes, it outputs 480p. I have it outputting 480p to my Sony 50A2000 over HDMI.

inca
12-06-06, 04:10 PM
Hmmm, I also have a 1080P tv, what signal should I feed it?? I thought that the 1080i looked insanley good, but if it can look better so be it. Do you think that a Samsung 960 would work better upscaling the picture to 1080p then the sony's sxrd's internal scaler would if it was fed a 480i signal from the 75H?? I also have the 50A2000 so I might as well try it.

Doug_Eldred
12-06-06, 04:31 PM
As with most scaling discussions, it really comes down to which component in a given setup does the best job. For some it'll be the DVD player, for some it'll be the A/V receiver, for some it'll be the TV, etc. As long as you get a good picture, which component did the upscaling isn't terribly important, IMHO.

My collection of components may have one "best quality" answer, someone else's setup may have another, etc. There's no absolute one-size-fits-all answer.

Doug

DVPNS75HJCICONE
12-07-06, 09:40 PM
Does anybody knows hot to make the Sony NS75H "Region Free". Cause mine is region 1 (as everybody in here I guess) but I also have several DVDs from other regions.
Anybody can help?
Please... :)

Thunderbroom
12-07-06, 11:21 PM
Hmmm, I also have a 1080P tv, what signal should I feed it?? I thought that the 1080i looked insanley good, but if it can look better so be it. Do you think that a Samsung 960 would work better upscaling the picture to 1080p then the sony's sxrd's internal scaler would if it was fed a 480i signal from the 75H?? I also have the 50A2000 so I might as well try it.

My 60A2000 will be here next week, and I need a new DVD player. I think I've narrowed it down to the Sony DVP-NS75H and the Samsung HD960. The reviews I've read on both are overwhelmingly positive. In my mind, a player that can send a 1080p signal to a 1080p tv seems to make the most sense thus giving the nod to the Samsung, but it seems that the Sony "should" mate up with the Sony TV better.

Does it really make a difference between these two?

Thanks!

Doug_Eldred
12-08-06, 10:05 AM
From other posts I don't believe you can make the NS75H region-free. You can probably view your non-region-1 DVDs via a PC or Mac, if you have one.

DVPNS75HJCICONE
12-08-06, 10:48 AM
:( I really hope that In the future we can find someway to make it Region Free.... There should be one... Do you know any other DVD Player with HDMI that can be unlocked?

DVPNS75HJCICONE
12-08-06, 06:10 PM
What do you know about this software "DVD Unlocker"?....

dvdunlocker

anybody have experience on it......? looks kind of suspicious for me....

FunkyELF
12-09-06, 08:49 AM
I know dvd decrypter which just rips the movie to your hard drive without compressing it will not only make it region free, but also make it so you can skip past warnings and trailers.

That would be a good tool to make backups of your movies anyway.

You'll need a dual layer burner and discs, otherwise you'll have to use 'dvd shrink' and burn to single layer.

FunkyELF
12-09-06, 08:52 AM
Well, I got my 60A2000 and my DVP-NS75H yesterday.
Does this player not do any upconversion on component out? I can only seem to get it to go 480i out to the TV in which case the TV is doing everything isn't it? The deinterlacing as well as the upscaling?
I saw options for output resolution on the HDMI out but nothing for the component. I'd be happy with 480p on the component because it seems the a2000s do a real bad job at deinterlacing.
BTW I'm waitin for my $6 hdmi cable in the mail because I wasn't about to spend $80 for one at the store.

Doug_Eldred
12-09-06, 09:21 AM
That's correct, on this player upconversion is only via HDMI.

Melanotheron
12-09-06, 09:22 AM
No upconversion via component, only through HDMI. To get 480p, there is a "progressive" button on the front of the player.

Mel

Tibo
12-09-06, 03:28 PM
Hello Guys,

When I try to read some divx with my 75h, I dont hear any sound on my TV. This does not happen with some other divx. Do you have any idea why? Does any firmware upgrade exists?

Tnaks for your help!

Doug_Eldred
12-10-06, 10:02 AM
I don't recall the NS75H claiming to support divx...

FunkyELF
12-10-06, 03:21 PM
Hello Guys,

When I try to read some divx with my 75h, I dont hear any sound on my TV. This does not happen with some other divx. Do you have any idea why? Does any firmware upgrade exists?

Tnaks for your help!

Not sure that the 75h is supposed to support divx....anyway, with files like divx and xvid, you can have a wide variety of different sound formats.

Download this program and see how your audio is encoded....

http://yaai.sourceforge.net/

Post your results here for the ones that work and the ones that don't work.

I'm guessing that the one that doesn't work is either encoded with some weird codec.

Thunderbroom
12-10-06, 03:33 PM
My 60A2000 will be here next week, and I need a new DVD player. I think I've narrowed it down to the Sony DVP-NS75H and the Samsung HD960. The reviews I've read on both are overwhelmingly positive. In my mind, a player that can send a 1080p signal to a 1080p tv seems to make the most sense thus giving the nod to the Samsung, but it seems that the Sony "should" mate up with the Sony TV better.

Does it really make a difference between these two?

Thanks!

Tap. Tap. Tap.

Is this thing on?

Anybody?
:)

rack04
12-10-06, 04:27 PM
I'm hoping for a little advice. I just purchased a Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player to go along with my Sony DVP-NS75H, SA 8300HD, and Samsung HL-S6187W. The problem that I'm faced with is that my Samsung HL-S6187W only has two HDMI inputs? So I'm faced with the decision whether to run the Sony DVP-NS75H or the SA 8300HD via HDMI and the other via component. Through reading this forum I know that the Sony DVP-NS75H does not upconvert via component so that factors in to my decision. Any opinions?

SAAudio
12-10-06, 04:40 PM
I'm hoping for a little advice. I just purchased a Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player to go along with my Sony DVP-NS75H, SA 8300HD, and Samsung HL-S6187W. The problem that I'm faced with is that my Samsung HL-S6187W only has two HDMI inputs? So I'm faced with the decision whether to run the Sony DVP-NS75H or the SA 8300HD via HDMI and the other via component. Through reading this forum I know that the Sony DVP-NS75H does not upconvert via component so that factors in to my decision. Any opinions?

Why do you want to keep the sony dvd player? The toshiba upconverts doesn't it?

SofChance
12-13-06, 12:46 AM
Hi, I just bought the DVP-NS71HP player, which seems to be similar to this player. I have it hooked up to a Philips plasma tv (42pf7320a) and I am seeing a LOT of macroblocking with my player.

For instance, in the movie "Sin City":
-When Jackie Boy is banging on Shelly's door, the shadows on the wall are a mix of black and ugly grey squares which keep shifting around.
-Two chapters later, when Dwight is chasing Jackie in his red convertible, when the camera pans around the car, the red isn't a constant gradient - instead it looks like a series of blocks which shift around.

I tried about a dozen dvds and almost all of them have those ugly blocks in places (usually in the blacks of shadows, which look more like a bunch of grey squares).

The only way I was able to make the blocking less noticable was to turn the brightness of the player to -3, but then it seems to make some of the movies too dark. BNR and MNR just make the picture look cakey and blurry.

Is there anything else I can do to make this less noticable? I don't have the AVIA disc but I do have the THX optimizer on the T2:EE disc. If I use that, will it help smooth out blacks and make color variations look smoother?

Thanks.

rsonnens
12-15-06, 12:08 PM
Hi, I just bought the DVP-NS71HP player, which seems to be similar to this player. I have it hooked up to a Philips plasma tv (42pf7320a) and I am seeing a LOT of macroblocking with my player.

For instance, in the movie "Sin City":
-When Jackie Boy is banging on Shelly's door, the shadows on the wall are a mix of black and ugly grey squares which keep shifting around.
-Two chapters later, when Dwight is chasing Jackie in his red convertible, when the camera pans around the car, the red isn't a constant gradient - instead it looks like a series of blocks which shift around.

I tried about a dozen dvds and almost all of them have those ugly blocks in places (usually in the blacks of shadows, which look more like a bunch of grey squares).

The only way I was able to make the blocking less noticable was to turn the brightness of the player to -3, but then it seems to make some of the movies too dark. BNR and MNR just make the picture look cakey and blurry.

Is there anything else I can do to make this less noticable? I don't have the AVIA disc but I do have the THX optimizer on the T2:EE disc. If I use that, will it help smooth out blacks and make color variations look smoother?

Thanks.
THis does not happen to me on my 1080p 40" LCD; infact Sin City is one of the best looking DVDs I have seen! Two things, are you running either 480p on component and a higher resolution on HDMI (you need to) and have you set the player to wide screen mode. You need to do this to get the extra 30% information that anamorphic DVDs have (and I also assume you are looking at widescreen format 'enhanced' DVDs.

This issues may also be with your set (I doubt it since it is a plasma) and the ability to display many levels of black.

However in the end DVDs are highly compressed and if you get too critical you just need to move to an HD format.

inca
12-16-06, 05:21 PM
I'm hoping for a little advice. I just purchased a Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player to go along with my Sony DVP-NS75H, SA 8300HD, and Samsung HL-S6187W. The problem that I'm faced with is that my Samsung HL-S6187W only has two HDMI inputs? So I'm faced with the decision whether to run the Sony DVP-NS75H or the SA 8300HD via HDMI and the other via component. Through reading this forum I know that the Sony DVP-NS75H does not upconvert via component so that factors in to my decision. Any opinions?

Considering that you have the HDA2, you should just sell the sony. I heard that the Toshiba HD-DVD HD-A2 and A1 is the best upconverting DVD player that you can get, and will blow the Sony out of the water.

Doug_Eldred
12-16-06, 07:26 PM
You should also try the STB both ways, HDMI and component, and see which YOU think is better. Different people, with different hardware combinations, have different "best" connections. If you want up-conversion, the NS75H definitely does that only for HDMI.

SofChance
12-16-06, 08:31 PM
THis does not happen to me on my 1080p 40" LCD; infact Sin City is one of the best looking DVDs I have seen! Two things, are you running either 480p on component and a higher resolution on HDMI (you need to) and have you set the player to wide screen mode. You need to do this to get the extra 30% information that anamorphic DVDs have (and I also assume you are looking at widescreen format 'enhanced' DVDs.

This issues may also be with your set (I doubt it since it is a plasma) and the ability to display many levels of black.

However in the end DVDs are highly compressed and if you get too critical you just need to move to an HD format.
I was using HDMI with every resolution and combination of settings I could, and the bad squaring remained. Now I'm using just component with RGB and 480p, and the picture looks a LOT better! The squares are pretty much gone, though many of the near-HD shots now look a little more blurry.

One more thing though. I have the player set to 16:9 and my tv set to widescreen, and there is still some overscan on the right and left sides of the screen (when I use the right and left buttons on my tv remote, I can see parts of the dvd image which are hidden off the screen). Is there any way to fix this? I've tried the different picture settings on my tv, and there's always some overscan present.

rsonnens
12-17-06, 02:18 AM
I was using HDMI with every resolution and combination of settings I could, and the bad squaring remained. Now I'm using just component with RGB and 480p, and the picture looks a LOT better! The squares are pretty much gone, though many of the near-HD shots now look a little more blurry.

One more thing though. I have the player set to 16:9 and my tv set to widescreen, and there is still some overscan on the right and left sides of the screen (when I use the right and left buttons on my tv remote, I can see parts of the dvd image which are hidden off the screen). Is there any way to fix this? I've tried the different picture settings on my tv, and there's always some overscan present.
Clearly your experience shows that your TV's scalar is better for you then the 75Hs and I am not necessarily surprised by that. I have used 480p from this player and an older Panasonic I believe that the signals looked nearly the same as 1080i over hdmi.

As far as the other issue; It is possible that you don't need to set your TV to wide screen but rather 'normal' mode of some sort (it is hard to tell what you TV means when it says wide screen.) However if the overscan is just a few percent than I think the cropping is happening on your TV and I can't help you much.

On my Sony v2500 I have to set the HDMI input explicitly to "FULL-PIXEL" to avoid automatic cropping by the TV when I feed it a 1080i (or 1080p) sources. When my set takes in a 480i, 480p or a 720p signal (using either OTA, HDMI, or component) it always crops--I can't override this.

Mok Dan Lan
12-17-06, 08:17 PM
Clearly your experience shows that your TV's scalar is better for you then the 75Hs and I am not necessarily surprised by that. I have used 480p from this player and an older Panasonic I believe that the signals looked nearly the same as 1080i over hdmi.

As far as the other issue; It is possible that you don't need to set your TV to wide screen but rather 'normal' mode of some sort (it is hard to tell what you TV means when it says wide screen.) However if the overscan is just a few percent than I think the cropping is happening on your TV and I can't help you much.

On my Sony v2500 I have to set the HDMI input explicitly to "FULL-PIXEL" to avoid automatic cropping by the TV when I feed it a 1080i (or 1080p) sources. When my set takes in a 480i, 480p or a 720p signal (using either OTA, HDMI, or component) it always crops--I can't override this.

sigh, when are manufacturers going to stop underestimating the consumers need to tweak and tune.

it's like my LG LCD, it has this annoying "contrast" adjusting feature that is ridiculous and i just wish i could turn it off. (trust me, i could explain it but you really have to see it for yourself. i even had to go back to the store i purchased it from to show them and the salesperson was like "wow, that sucks". indeed)

thank goodness i'm someone who can rationalize accepting the minor annoyances for the greater reward of a (somewhat) prettier picture.

MStem
12-18-06, 12:16 PM
Am a newbie to the HT world and have been hanging out over on the Sony E2000 display forum. Just discovered this thread and notice some of the same folks over here. I have a new Sony NC85H connected to my AVR receiver. So far I have only used it for watching DVD movies and am more than satisfied with the unit. My question concerns the use of this player for AUDIO CD's?

Currently I am using a vintage Sony audio CD player, and the only connection option is the old standard red/white RCA cables. The NC85H is connected via an optical cable to the AVR. Is it right for me to assume, given the advances in technology AND the use of the optical feed, that I should bag the old CD player and use the NC85H for my audio CD's also?

Thanks in advance...

Doug_Eldred
12-18-06, 12:19 PM
Whichever sounds better to you is the one you should use! :D

Morpheo
12-18-06, 03:15 PM
It's my first post here so hi to everyone.... :)

I've read almost the entire thread over the weekend and it was amazingly helpful, so thanks !.... I have a Viewsonic 3252 32" LCD, I first bought the panasonic s52 but wasn't really satisfied with the picture quality (colors were ok, but it showed some very subtle vertical lines at times), plus the fact that it has no open-close button on the remote (no big deal but still), no screen saver, etc. I bought the the Samsung 960 last weekend, and though colors were vibrant with great detail, I couldn't stand the ghosting, very apparent and very annoying. So I decided to get the ns75h, and it's an excellent player so far. I "think" I prefer 720p over 1080i... I say 'think' because sometimes it's very hard to notice an actual difference between the two. That said, I'm under the impression 720p gives me a sharper and more detailed image, so... One last thing, eventhough the samsung uses the faroudja chip, I do think the 75h does a better job....

--M.

k889289
12-18-06, 04:14 PM
Any ideas????

If I connect the DVP-NS75H directly to my projector (Mitsubishi HD1000U) I can get the DVD player to send an upconverted 720p (or 1080i) signal.
However, if I go through my HDMI switchbox, it will only send a 480p signal.

I noticed the manual says that if the DVD player detects that your TV can not support 720p or 1080i then it will send a 480p signal even if you have the output set to 720p or 1080i.

Is the switchbox causing it to not be able to detect that my projector can support the upconverted signal?

(I'm still not sure the upconverted signal makes that much of a difference, but I would like to be able to send a 720p signal to my 720p projector).

Thanks,
Kenn

DFW50E2000
12-18-06, 07:52 PM
Hello;

I have a quick question: I have the DVP NS75H, and it works great with my 50E2000. My problem I think is human error. I have the sound hooked up to my Old Onkyo 484 via Coaxial (sp) and when I set it to DTS it lights up on my onkyo saying DTS, but for some reason I only get sound out of my front, center and sub woofer, I am not getting sound from my rear surround sound speakers. Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong, I have rehooked up and checked the settings on my reciever and it seems right. When I switch to DD 5.1 on the all the speakers work. Thanks in advance for the help.

rsonnens
12-18-06, 08:22 PM
Hello;

I have a quick question: I have the DVP NS75H, and it works great with my 50E2000. My problem I think is human error. I have the sound hooked up to my Old Onkyo 484 via Coaxial (sp) and when I set it to DTS it lights up on my onkyo saying DTS, but for some reason I only get sound out of my front, center and sub woofer, I am not getting sound from my rear surround sound speakers. Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong, I have rehooked up and checked the settings on my reciever and it seems right. When I switch to DD 5.1 on the all the speakers work. Thanks in advance for the help.
Are you playing a DTS encoded DVD. IF the answer is yes, and your Onkyo is truly reconizing the DTS signal then the problem is most likly in how your reciever is configured.

petergaryr
12-18-06, 08:48 PM
Hello;

I have a quick question: I have the DVP NS75H, and it works great with my 50E2000. My problem I think is human error. I have the sound hooked up to my Old Onkyo 484 via Coaxial (sp) and when I set it to DTS it lights up on my onkyo saying DTS, but for some reason I only get sound out of my front, center and sub woofer, I am not getting sound from my rear surround sound speakers. Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong, I have rehooked up and checked the settings on my reciever and it seems right. When I switch to DD 5.1 on the all the speakers work. Thanks in advance for the help.

Assuming both the 75H and the receiver are set for DTS in their respective menu settings, and the fact that DD plays 5.1, then I have to ask which DTS DVDs or CDs are you playing?

DFW50E2000
12-18-06, 10:09 PM
The DVD I used was Gladiator, and went to the menu settings and picked DTS. All that worked for me were the front, center and subwoofer. When I say 5.1; I mean 5 ch stereo displayed on the onkyo receiver. this is when I turn it off of DTS and switch to PCM

sorry for the confusion, as you can see I am still learning, and it has been fun and frustrating.

primetimeguy
12-18-06, 11:17 PM
The DVD I used was Gladiator, and went to the menu settings and picked DTS. All that worked for me were the front, center and subwoofer. When I say 5.1; I mean 5 ch stereo displayed on the onkyo receiver. this is when I turn it off of DTS and switch to PCM

sorry for the confusion, as you can see I am still learning, and it has been fun and frustrating.

If the receiver is saying 5 channel stereo it is not 5.1. It is getting 2 channel (left and right) and just playing it through 5 speakers. Do you have a Dolby or DTS sound field option? What is the model of your receiver?

DFW50E2000
12-18-06, 11:32 PM
OK:

Well I went through the manual again, and fixed the problem. Basically I had the player set with the TVS Dynamic theater on (info found on page 43 in notes). I turned it off, and all of the sudden everything started working correct, everything works great now!!!!

Morpheo
12-19-06, 09:49 AM
Earlier in the thread, some people said the ns75h still had some slight shifting issues... Well I think I can confirm this as well. Here's what I noticed (testing with Revenge Of The Sith, POTC-Dead Man's Chest, and LOTR-Return Of The King): using HDMI, upscaling from the player, at 1080i there is no shifting whatsoever, at 720p there is a barely noticeable bigger black bar at the top, and at 480 it's really apparent, the top black bar is even bigger.

Now, of course this concerns only 2.35:1/2.40:1 (or anything different than 1.85:1) movies, and maybe it only occurs with certain TVs, mine is a Viewsonic n3252w, so this is probably too specific to one's own setup to be considered a bug from Sony. Again, at 1080i the image is perfectly centered, and it's negligible at 720p.

I haven't tried the component outs, so I can't comment, as I'm only using HDMI. Now I have to decide whether I prefer 720p or 1080i, or maybe there is a discussion covering that somewhere... ? :p ;)

Having said that, I still think it's the ns75h is an excellent player with an amazing image quality, and I'm more than happy with it.

Zues
12-19-06, 11:07 AM
I was using HDMI with every resolution and combination of settings I could, and the bad squaring remained. Now I'm using just component with RGB and 480p, and the picture looks a LOT better! The squares are pretty much gone, though many of the near-HD shots now look a little more blurry.

One more thing though. I have the player set to 16:9 and my tv set to widescreen, and there is still some overscan on the right and left sides of the screen (when I use the right and left buttons on my tv remote, I can see parts of the dvd image which are hidden off the screen). Is there any way to fix this? I've tried the different picture settings on my tv, and there's always some overscan present.

Do you have a crt? 480p gets blown away by 720-1080i on my tests, like enabiling HD on the xbox360. Tv should be set to full i believe. :confused:

42Plasmaman
12-19-06, 02:30 PM
I've owned the DVP-NS75H for a few days and did some testing.

The HDMI 720p and Component 480p look the same quality wise. Nothing noticible that jumped out that one signal format was better than the other.

I was about to take the unit back since the 480p Component looks just as good as the HDMI 720p but then did a comparison to my Sony DVP-NS55P 480p Component output using the same movie.

Well, Sony must of either upgraded the HW or SW on the DVP-NS75H units because the 480p Component output on the DVP-NS75H looks better then the DVP-NS55P Component output using 480p. (On the outside, both DVD players look almost identical on the front panel and rear connectors.)

Everything just looks more clear/crisp and sharp on the 75H component output as well as the HDMI.

Only thing I don't like is as people have mentioned is the larger blackbars for some WS movie formats on the HDMI output. I can stretch them on my TV but the picture then looks distorted.

If I use the Component output, then the blackbars are not as large and the picture takes up more of the screen using the same WS format on the TV.

For $119, it's not a bad buy for an interm solution until an HD standard is established.

Morpheo
12-19-06, 02:46 PM
Only thing I don't like is as people have mentioned is the larger blackbars for some WS movie formats on the HDMI output. I can stretch them on my TV but the picture then looks distorted.

If I use the Component output, then the blackbars are not as large and the picture takes up more of the screen using the same WS format on the TV.


Not sure I follow you here, when you say you stretch the image on some movies. You mean stretch to fill the entire screen ?

Like I said, it's negligible (and obviously 2.35:1 movies must have those bars anyway), it's just that the image is not *perfectly* centered on the screen, but it's really not a big deal.

42Plasmaman
12-19-06, 03:41 PM
Not sure I follow you here, when you say you stretch the image on some movies. You mean stretch to fill the entire screen ?

Like I said, it's negligible (and obviously 2.35:1 movies must have those bars anyway), it's just that the image is not *perfectly* centered on the screen, but it's really not a big deal.
Correct. My TV has an Auto Format feature to stretch/adjust the WS format/picture to fill up the entire screen(no black bars). So it does a best guess algorythm to fill the screen but I can tell it's not to exact sizing as the WS. My friends couldn't tell what I was talking about until I switched between Auto to WS to Auto. If you walked in to the room while it was in Auto, you might not even notice.

I just hate the fact that I have a 42" TV and certain WS movies only utilize 70-80% of the screen if I use WS format on the TV.
This is my curse for having attention to details.

Morpheo
12-19-06, 03:56 PM
Correct. My TV has an Auto Format feature to stretch/adjust the WS format/picture to fill up the entire screen(no black bars). So it does a best guess algorythm to fill the screen but I can tell it's not to exact sizing as the WS. My friends couldn't tell what I was talking about until I switched between Auto to WS to Auto. If you walked in to the room while it was in Auto, you might not even notice.

Yes but aren't you losing image on the sides ?

42Plasmaman
12-19-06, 05:32 PM
Yes but aren't you losing image on the sides ?
Maybe about a 1/4-1/2 inch on each side at most.

rosh400
12-20-06, 02:40 PM
Maybe about a 1/4-1/2 inch on each side at most.

Maybe for a 1.85:1 movie which is still not acceptable me. For a 2.35:1 movie, you will lose much more and the zooming will soften the image.

brezz
12-22-06, 12:32 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I was wondering if anyone had recommendations on settings to use with this DVD player and the Samsung HLS-5687W? Thanks for the advice in advance.

Brian

Herdfanwv
12-23-06, 09:24 PM
I just bought this player...and upon getting it home, because of its small size, I am having trouble placing it in my TV stand. My previous player sat underneath my Scientific Atlanta cable DVR. But the new Sony DVD player is too small for that, so I have had to set it on top of my DVR. My concern is that it covers about 2 inches of the vent openings on the DVR. There are still about 2 inches of vent openings on the top, and unobstructed openings on the sides. I was wondering if this setup could possibly do damage to either the DVR or DVD player. Thanks for any opinions.

petergaryr
12-23-06, 09:36 PM
I just bought this player...and upon getting it home, because of its small size, I am having trouble placing it in my TV stand. My previous player sat underneath my Scientific Atlanta cable DVR. But the new Sony DVD player is too small for that, so I have had to set it on top of my DVR. My concern is that it covers about 2 inches of the vent openings on the DVR. There are still about 2 inches of vent openings on the top, and unobstructed openings on the sides. I was wondering if this setup could possibly do damage to either the DVR or DVD player. Thanks for any opinions.

As long as you aren't blocking all of the vents, it probably isn't going to be a problem. You may though, want to consider raising the DVD player a little off the DVR, maybe with something like this:

http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?origkw=rubber+feet&kwCatId=&kw=rubber+feet&pg=1

Winky65
12-26-06, 04:50 PM
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I checked quite a few pages and did not see it. I just puicked up a 75H and hooked it up to mySony KF-50XBR800 via and HDMI-DVI cable, I think the picture on widescreen DVDs in my limited testing is noticeably sharper than via component on my old Sony300 DVD player. My question is this. through the HDMI-DVI cable, my tv is locked on the <FULL> setting, and the only options via the DVD player are <FULL> or <4:3> for viewing non widescreen material. I would like to watch non widescreen material with a partial zoom setting if available. Anyone know of a way to access this? The full setting through the DVD player seems stretched only to fit the screen. Is it something in the tv that needs to be changed? I did not see anything, but I cannot cycle through the wide settings when using the DVI connector it seems. Thanks so much, Bill.

rosh400
12-27-06, 08:28 AM
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I checked quite a few pages and did not see it. I just puicked up a 75H and hooked it up to mySony KF-50XBR800 via and HDMI-DVI cable, I think the picture on widescreen DVDs in my limited testing is noticeably sharper than via component on my old Sony300 DVD player. My question is this. through the HDMI-DVI cable, my tv is locked on the <FULL> setting, and the only options via the DVD player are <FULL> or <4:3> for viewing non widescreen material. I would like to watch non widescreen material with a partial zoom setting if available. Anyone know of a way to access this? The full setting through the DVD player seems stretched only to fit the screen. Is it something in the tv that needs to be changed? I did not see anything, but I cannot cycle through the wide settings when using the DVI connector it seems. Thanks so much, Bill.

This advice is coming from a purist and I know there are those who like to zoom or stretch but I think it is best to leave 4:3 material in its original aspect ratio.

petergaryr
12-27-06, 09:13 AM
This advice is coming from a purist and I know there are those who like to zoom or stretch but I think it is best to leave 4:3 material in its original aspect ratio.

Always.

If you zoom or "expand" to fill the screen, you are cropping things and increasing the grain/noise in the picture.

I will not even consider stretching.

farleyville
12-27-06, 10:19 AM
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I checked quite a few pages and did not see it. I just puicked up a 75H and hooked it up to mySony KF-50XBR800 via and HDMI-DVI cable, I think the picture on widescreen DVDs in my limited testing is noticeably sharper than via component on my old Sony300 DVD player. My question is this. through the HDMI-DVI cable, my tv is locked on the <FULL> setting, and the only options via the DVD player are <FULL> or <4:3> for viewing non widescreen material. I would like to watch non widescreen material with a partial zoom setting if available. Anyone know of a way to access this? The full setting through the DVD player seems stretched only to fit the screen. Is it something in the tv that needs to be changed? I did not see anything, but I cannot cycle through the wide settings when using the DVI connector it seems. Thanks so much, Bill.

I too have the same issue, with a 46e2000... if you set it to 4:3 the dvd player outputs a signal at 16:9 and thus adds the vertical black bars in the picture... so this renders the zoom functions useless. I have found though, that if you set the output on the dvd player to 4:3 resolution up top & 4:3 down below, you can then zoom and stretch the picture. I decided against using it in this way, but it worked... hope that helps.

Winky65
12-27-06, 10:35 AM
This advice is coming from a purist and I know there are those who like to zoom or stretch but I think it is best to leave 4:3 material in its original aspect ratio.

Thanks for the info, I usually will, but sometimes want to fill the screen. I did find hidden in the tv manual that the <WIDE> button will not function in 720p or 1080i mode, so that is why it was locked on full. when I switched the DVD output to 480p, the WIDE button on the tv would work. So that was the problem. Is this common on newer tvs as well? Just curious. Thanks again.

Bill

Manny805
12-27-06, 03:13 PM
is this player worth the money ??

ElwayLite
12-27-06, 03:57 PM
is this player worth the money ??

If you are not happy with a 480p player then I would say, if you have the money and want a sharper picture with better colors yes.

If you are happy with the 480p and really do not want to spend the money I'd say no.

I had the $100 laying around and went and bought it. After comparing the last week with my old 480p player i have found that the images are much sharper on the 720p upconvert.

Do not on the other hand expect HD-like PQ. It's not even close to that as nothing is. BUT, it is an improvement over 480p, so if you're in the market definitely get an upconvert over a standard 480p. If you are not in the market it's a matter of whether you want to spend the money.

If you are up for spending $200 on one, (which I was not) the Oppo 971 is supposed to be very nice.

Winky65
12-27-06, 04:25 PM
is this player worth the money ??

I thought it was, I found it on sale and had a $50 gift card, and was replacing a ncie, but almost 4 year old Sony 480p player. The picture is noticeably better with HDMI, it really is sharper and crisper than my older player was. A nice bridge machine until the HD war ends and Blu-Ray probably wins. Just my uninformed opinion.

farleyville
12-27-06, 04:48 PM
is this player worth the money ??

I am as far from a video-phile as an AVSer can be... I am also extremely frugal and hate to spend money unless its a deal.

Having said that, I recently purchased the NS75H, plugged it into my 46e2000 sony, and was very happy with the results... To my non video-phile eyes, it is a big improvement over the older NON-PROGRESSIVE XBOX, that I used before. Don't know how to describe it technically, so I will just use the words from the wife about the first movie we popped in.... "Wow, that looks better."

Bottom Line .... HAPPY WIFE = WORTH THE MONEY

cubits
12-27-06, 06:07 PM
I just got this unit and hooked it to my brand-new Sony 32" LCD. I am running through HDMI. First thing I noticed, since I watch a lot of foreign films, is that the subtitles show up pretty pixelated. I've tried several disks and they all have this appearance.

To try and verify whether it's a TV or DVD-player issue, I checked to make sure that the TVs closed-captioning is smooth, which it is. I am used to getting crappy subtitle performance on my computer's DVD player, but they've always been good when I used them in my older DVD player (a DVP-NC600 multidisc) coupled with my old 19" tube TV.

Is the drastic change in equipment combining to cause such poor res, or could it be just the 75H? Is there any function that controls the output resolution of subtitles? I can find nothing in the manual, or through the onscreen controls. Or is it just one of those limitations in the DVD format that I just have to deal with?

Dyvim
12-27-06, 08:43 PM
Hey all, just purchased the 75H and hooked it up to my Sony HDTV (KDS-R50XBR1) via HDMI. Checked out a few DVDs, and it upscaled beautifully to 1080i and 720p on a several DVDs, however, I ran into a problem on a DVD with a 1.66 aspect ratio that I can not fix, and as this is one of the largest groups with knowledgeable people, I am hoping someone can help. I have searched the thread and can't come up with anyone who has had a similar problems or can give me a heads up.

Problem: "Black bar" appears on right side of TV when playing DVD with 1.66 aspect ratio.

Black bar is larger depending on the higher resolution, i.e. bar is bigger in 1080i than in 720p, than in 480p, but is present in all of them.
However, when played in non-progressive DVD player via component, no bar is present.
No bar on right side is present in other DVD aspect ratios or using HDTV via HDMI etc.

So, this bar on the side only appears on the 1.66 DVD (Dr. No - James Bond, remastered edition) - all other DVDs play normally.

Setup: 75H DVD player, HDMI to Sony HDTV (R50XBR1)

Comments: I think it might be a problem with the upscaling with the 1.66 aspect ratio, I have tried changing all of the settings with no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! I have also sent in an email to Sony, but who knows what they will say.

Thanks again in advance.

Tigershark
12-27-06, 09:08 PM
Hey all, just purchased the 75H and hooked it up to my Sony HDTV (KDS-R50XBR1) via HDMI. Checked out a few DVDs, and it upscaled beautifully to 1080i and 720p on a several DVDs, however, I ran into a problem on a DVD with a 1.66 aspect ratio that I can not fix, and as this is one of the largest groups with knowledgeable people, I am hoping someone can help. I have searched the thread and can't come up with anyone who has had a similar problems or can give me a heads up.

Problem: "Black bar" appears on right side of TV when playing DVD with 1.66 aspect ratio.

Black bar is larger depending on the higher resolution, i.e. bar is bigger in 1080i than in 720p, than in 480p, but is present in all of them.
However, when played in non-progressive DVD player via component, no bar is present.
No bar on right side is present in other DVD aspect ratios or using HDTV via HDMI etc.

So, this bar on the side only appears on the 1.66 DVD (Dr. No - James Bond, remastered edition) - all other DVDs play normally.

Setup: 75H DVD player, HDMI to Sony HDTV (R50XBR1)

Comments: I think it might be a problem with the upscaling with the 1.66 aspect ratio, I have tried changing all of the settings with no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! I have also sent in an email to Sony, but who knows what they will say.

Thanks again in advance.


Since a 1.33:1 would have black bars on both sides, and a 1.78:1 would have none, it makes sense that a 1.66:1 would have some black on the sides (but less than a 1.33:1). But you would expect thin black lines on both sides, not a fatter bar on one side. Not really sure why the change in resolution would affect the width of the bar either. Hmmm...

Dyvim
12-27-06, 09:38 PM
Tigershark: I know! It's a very puzzling problem. Usually 1.66 aspect ratio video shows up full on 16x9 TVs (i.e. 480i only).
At first I thought it maybe a form of the normal "bars" you see on letterbox or 2+ aspect ratio video, but the fact that it changes in width depending on the output resolution makes me wonder if it has something to do with the upscaling? I've been searching the internet for people having similar problems (with Sony DVD players or not), but haven't found anything.

Tigershark
12-28-06, 03:45 AM
Tigershark: I know! It's a very puzzling problem. Usually 1.66 aspect ratio video shows up full on 16x9 TVs (i.e. 480i only).
At first I thought it maybe a form of the normal "bars" you see on letterbox or 2+ aspect ratio video, but the fact that it changes in width depending on the output resolution makes me wonder if it has something to do with the upscaling? I've been searching the internet for people having similar problems (with Sony DVD players or not), but haven't found anything.


Do you have any other 1.66:1 DVDs you could test? That would eliminate the DVD as a possible cause.