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I have the 85H changer and I'm very happy with the picture. However, I have a question about the audio out settings. I have the audio into my receiver via HDMI, and all it ever shows is "2-channel audio." Audio from my cable box (also via HDMI) shows "5.1 audio" on the HD channels.
Is the 2-channel audio normal from the 85H/75H, or is there an audio setting I need to change? Or do I need to connect the audio differently to get all the channels?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
tonybradley 03-27-07, 07:40 AM Black bars usually indicate a DVD that's not a perfect 16:9. Many are 2.35:1 or other ratios. Some DVD players, and some TVs, give some options on dealing with non-16:9 DVDs, but almost all involve either stretching (distortion) or cropping (losing parts of the picture). Which is "right" depends on the consumer - PERSONALLY I want the DVD the way it was recorded, not stretched or cropped.
Doug
Ok, not what I'm talking about at all. I know the difference in aspect ratios. The OPPO has a problem where there are black bars at the top and bottom...it's a known problem and OPPO has a fix coming. The old SONY (the 70H maybe?) had this problem as well. I was curious if the 75H had the problem or if it completely filled the screen when watching a 16x9 movie (not even talking 2.35:1 here).
EDIT: I just remembered that I asked this question months ago and did a search. I just found the reply that the Image Shift problem from the 70 has been fixed on the 71, 75 and 85.
Chris Gerhard 03-27-07, 08:52 AM Ok, not what I'm talking about at all. I know the difference in aspect ratios. The OPPO has a problem where there are black bars at the top and bottom...it's a known problem and OPPO has a fix coming. The old SONY (the 70H maybe?) had this problem as well. I was curious if the 75H had the problem or if it completely filled the screen when watching a 16x9 movie (not even talking 2.35:1 here).
EDIT: I just remembered that I asked this question months ago and did a search. I just found the reply that the Image Shift problem from the 70 has been fixed on the 71, 75 and 85.
I have both the NS75H and the Oppo DV970HD and it is correct that the Oppo has the vertical squeeze problem, maybe 3% - 5% and it is a serious problem that I expect Oppo to fix. The NS75H does not have the problem.
Chris
tonybradley 03-27-07, 11:15 AM I have both the NS75H and the Oppo DV970HD and it is correct that the Oppo has the vertical squeeze problem, maybe 3% - 5% and it is a serious problem that I expect Oppo to fix. The NS75H does not have the problem.
Chris
I heard Oppo has a Beta firmware fix now, but they aren't happy with the results. I'm curious, since the Sony and Oppo use the same mediatek chipset, is Sony's fix not up to par for what Oppo wants for their fix, or am I talking apples and oranges here?
girdnerg 03-27-07, 11:26 AM As most here know, the NS75H leaves it's "zoom amount" icon on-screen if the ZOOM function is initiated. While I don't use this much, I do have a few older DVDs that are not "widescreen-enhanced". The letterbox image is formatted for 4:3 screens.
While I can "blow up" these DVDs using the aspect function of my set, I'd prefer using the player's ZOOM function. It allows any subtitle info to still be seen on screen and seems to give me a tad bit better PQ.
And before anyone chimes in....yes, I know...the Oppos don't leave the ZOOM icon on during playback. Neither did my old Panny 5 disc changer. Not gonna ditch my Sony just because of this little quibble. The ZOOM icon isn't even an issue 99.9% of the time.
Anyway, I spoke with a Sony online CSR today. Said I should try setting the 75H output to 480i and use my set's wide/16x9 Zoom function. Since I'm not near my TV or DVD player right now, what would this do? Send out a vertically "stretched" image that the 16x9 zoom on the TV will fill out? And does the 75H even output 480i over HDMI?
Get the feeling the Sony drone was talking out his anus. But maybe I'm wrong.
Any thoughts?
It can't do 480i over HDMI. Unfortunately, using the ZOOM on your TV is your only option (without the 2x display). I'd leave it on your TV's native resolution (720P - 1080i) for the best possible PQ and ZOOM in on the TV. You're gonna get degraded PQ when zooming in whether on the DVD player or the TV. If the subtitles are displayed in the bottom letterbox, you'll loose them.
My TV has a full setting, which just stretches the sides to fill the 16X9. This leaves the top and bottom letterbox. The next step is called ZOOM which is almost perfect for 4X3 letterbox content. It still crops the image about an inch all around, but fills the screen.
Hope that helps,
Rob
WaldorfSalad 03-27-07, 12:09 PM I have the 85H changer and I'm very happy with the picture. However, I have a question about the audio out settings. I have the audio into my receiver via HDMI, and all it ever shows is "2-channel audio." Audio from my cable box (also via HDMI) shows "5.1 audio" on the HD channels.
Is the 2-channel audio normal from the 85H/75H, or is there an audio setting I need to change? Or do I need to connect the audio differently to get all the channels?
Thanks in advance,
TomThere are audio setting in the setup menu that you need to change to get 5.1 Bitstream for DD and DTS. These are described in the manual.
burdell1 03-27-07, 01:05 PM Will this DVD player play DVD-Audio discs?
There are audio setting in the setup menu that you need to change to get 5.1 Bitstream for DD and DTS. These are described in the manual.
Thanks so much, Mr. Salad! I'm looking at my receiver's manual and it may not accept 96 kHz over the HDMI (1.1), but it looks like it will accept it over optical.
I'll try it tonight!
Tom
jwebb1970 03-27-07, 01:55 PM It can't do 480i over HDMI. Unfortunately, using the ZOOM on your TV is your only option (without the 2x display). I'd leave it on your TV's native resolution (720P - 1080i) for the best possible PQ and ZOOM in on the TV. You're gonna get degraded PQ when zooming in whether on the DVD player or the TV. If the subtitles are displayed in the bottom letterbox, you'll loose them.
My TV has a full setting, which just stretches the sides to fill the 16X9. This leaves the top and bottom letterbox. The next step is called ZOOM which is almost perfect for 4X3 letterbox content. It still crops the image about an inch all around, but fills the screen.
Hope that helps,
Rob
Thanks, Rob. Figured as much.
When I really think about it, the only time this is truly an issue is when watching the "original" Star Wars Trilogy (ie--the kinda crappy unaltered laserdisc ports that came out last year)--which is prettty rare since I actually tend to prefer the "new" cuts more, believe it or not. The alien language subtitle stuff from SW and JEDI gets cut off when zooming the image from my TV, since they're in the lower section of the letterbox.
My old Panny changer zoomed w/o a constant on-screen icon and repositioned any subtitle info so that you could see it just fine. No go on both counts with the otherwise fine 75H. However, PQ of zoomed video (either with the 75H or the TV) is actually better via the Sony than the old player.
But, I've seen those flicks so much...well, I already know what Greedo says to Solo before he gets blasted (and DOESN'T shoot first ;) )
WaldorfSalad 03-27-07, 09:17 PM Thanks so much, Mr. Salad! I'm looking at my receiver's manual and it may not accept 96 kHz over the HDMI (1.1), but it looks like it will accept it over optical.
I'll try it tonight!
TomWhat you'll need to do, if not already done, in the audio setup menu is to change Dolby Digital to Dolby Digital rather than the default of D-PCM. This will give you full 5.1 Dolby Digital. Also, set DTS to On rather than the default of Off. This will give you full 5.1 Dolby Digital. These are in the audio settings menus in the NS75. These are on page 70 in the NC85 manual so they should be about the same place in the NS75 manual.
burdell1 03-28-07, 09:05 AM Will this DVD player play DVD-Audio discs?
anyone?
a 3 second Google search tells me NO, it won't play DVD-Audio.
Doug_Eldred 03-28-07, 09:29 AM anyone?
Reading the online manual might be helpful. For this particular question, see page 8.
Doug
Chris Gerhard 03-28-07, 10:28 AM anyone?
I can tell you no Sony player of any kind will play DVD-Audio, period, end of discussion.
Chris
I checked and double-checked my settings.
Unfortunately, I still get only two channels being input to my Yamaha 5990, just like when watching SD from the cable box.
When watching HD channels (via HDMI), the receiver's input indicator shows LFE, L, C, R, SL, SR, 5.1 separate channels.
When watching the 85H (also via HDMI), all that lights up is L and R. The receiver decodes it into surround sound, but the DVD I was playing was in 5.1 (THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK SE).
I may reset the 85H to its "fresh out of the box" setting and trying again.
Tom
Well, that was helpful - NOT!
You're on my blocked list, Mr. Troll.
Tom
I figured out what happened. When I bought the 85H, I did not yet have an HDMI receiver. But I had to see that sparkling upscaled image on my SXRD. So I plugged the HDMI directly into the set.
The 85H and the SXRD "shook hands" and the SXRD told the DVD player it could only handle 2-channel audio. The 85H "imprinted" on that first contact, and stayed in that 2-channel mode even after the HDMI was plugged into the Yamaha. No matter what audio settings I changed, the 85H would only deliver 2-channel audio to the Yamaha. And the Yamaha only displayed "L" and "R."
So I reset the DVD player from the settings menu, and proceeded to activate Dolby Digital and DTS. And I started up THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK SE, and I've got Dolby Digital with 6.1 audio channels! And the sound is amazing!
Sorta like "When in doubt, reboot," I would say "When in doubt, reset!"
Tom
dclemm79 03-30-07, 09:58 AM Hi,
I've had the NS75H for a few months now and it plays commercial DVD's great. However, I'm having problems with playback on DVD-R's. I use Verbatim (have for a long time) and never had any problems before. However, for some reason the NS75H doesn't seem to like them. After 10-15 minutes of play time, the movie will either skip a few seconds or freeze the player all together.
So has anyone else had DVD-R problems with this player? Can anyone recommend a reliable brand of blanks for the NS75H? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
girdnerg 03-30-07, 10:19 AM Hi,
I've had the NS75H for a few months now and it plays commercial DVD's great. However, I'm having problems with playback on DVD-R's. I use Verbatim (have for a long time) and never had any problems before. However, for some reason the NS75H doesn't seem to like them. After 10-15 minutes of play time, the movie will either skip a few seconds or freeze the player all together.
So has anyone else had DVD-R problems with this player? Can anyone recommend a reliable brand of blanks for the NS75H? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
I haven't had any problem with Sony DVD+R 1x-16x burned at either 4x or 16x.
I do have some older Memorex and Sony DVD-Rs, but haven't had any problem with the unit reading them.
Rob
I have the NC85H and I use all kinds of different blanks and I've never had a problem with it not playing one unless it was a bad burn.
Grimdeath 03-30-07, 05:49 PM Hi,
I've had the NS75H for a few months now and it plays commercial DVD's great. However, I'm having problems with playback on DVD-R's. I use Verbatim (have for a long time) and never had any problems before. However, for some reason the NS75H doesn't seem to like them. After 10-15 minutes of play time, the movie will either skip a few seconds or freeze the player all together.
So has anyone else had DVD-R problems with this player? Can anyone recommend a reliable brand of blanks for the NS75H? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
I only use Verbatim DVD-R's, have some 100+ DVDs, and NEVER have a problem with the NS75H. Verbatim, as with everyone else, uses many different suppliers for their DVD-R's. You probably got a bunch from a grade B/C vendor.
Pull up the manufacturer info via Nero "Test Drive". My Verbatims are MCC's, particularly "MCC 02RG20" 12x.
JimboTHX1138 03-31-07, 01:28 AM Hi,
I've had the NS75H for a few months now and it plays commercial DVD's great. However, I'm having problems with playback on DVD-R's. I use Verbatim (have for a long time) and never had any problems before. However, for some reason the NS75H doesn't seem to like them. After 10-15 minutes of play time, the movie will either skip a few seconds or freeze the player all together.
So has anyone else had DVD-R problems with this player? Can anyone recommend a reliable brand of blanks for the NS75H? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Could have dust on your lens, try a lens cleaner.
Themajickman 03-31-07, 02:49 PM First-time poster on this thread, and having read all 34 pages, I want to thank everybody for all the great information. I finally decided that this was the player for me. I didn't see any new ones available, even Sony only had refurbished units (my local Costco didn't have any). I found a factory refurbished unit on Amazon for $69 (delivered). And went ahead and bought a two-year extended warranty for an additional $16. I figure I couldn't go wrong for the price. I ordered it last Sunday and it arrived on Wednesday. I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the picture using component connections to my sharp 52" LCD. I'm sure it will even get better once I receive the HDMI cable I have on order from MonoPrice. Anyway, I really don't have a question, I just wanted to thank all of the people who have posted here for helping me make my decision.
I've heard that the NS-71HP is the same as the NS-75H.
Are they identical players?
Can anyone confirm that?
Thanks,
Brian
prime21 04-02-07, 02:11 AM with my sony dvd player hook up via component, the picture looks great and everything works well..However, when i hook up HDMI, i get nothing.(no picture or sound) I tried this going to both my PJ and my HDTV so i figure it must be a problem with the dvd player...Is there something in the menu that i must change before i hook up the HDMI or is my HDMI output just messed up?
jwebb1970 04-02-07, 02:36 AM I've heard that the NS-71HP is the same as the NS-75H.
Are they identical players?
Can anyone confirm that?
Thanks,
Brian
Aside from some small cosmetic diffs. on the front panel, they are the same from what I've been told here. The 71HP is the "Costco exclusive" version of the 75H (and comes w/ an HDMI cable).
dclemm79 04-02-07, 08:25 AM Thanks for all the replies everyone. Well I went out and bought some Memorex DVD+R's that were on sale @ Best Buy. Burned about 20 discs so far with no errors. The player has played them flawlessly so far.
I'm starting to wonder if Grimdeath is correct and that I just bought a bunch of lower quality Verbatims. :confused:
girdnerg 04-02-07, 10:24 AM Thanks for all the replies everyone. Well I went out and bought some Memorex DVD+R's that were on sale @ Best Buy. Burned about 20 discs so far with no errors. The player has played them flawlessly so far.
I'm starting to wonder if Grimdeath is correct and that I just bought a bunch of lower quality Verbatims. :confused:
I've heard of it happening more than once. Depends on who they farmed 'em out to for the last batch. I live in a small town and really only have Wal-Mart to buy from. I seem to have really good luck with their Sony DVD+Rs. I generally loose 1-4 discs out of a 50 count spindle. The bad discs are usually near the top or bottom for some reason.
Rob
Lee Bailey 04-02-07, 01:26 PM Could have dust on your lens, try a lens cleaner.
The only problem with the lens cleaners, it's like hitting a speed bump at 300mph. Better off just opening it up, and cleaning it with a Q-Tip.
Brian E 04-03-07, 06:52 PM Hi guys.
I have a quick newbie question.
I bought both the NS75H and NC85HB. One for the bedroom and one for the family room. Both are using HDMI cables from the Motorola 3416 STB's to the TV's.
I have the NS75H hooked up to a Panasonic TC32LX60 LCD TV.
I have the audio from the TV going to my JVC receiver. Should I keep the audio hooked up from the TV to the receiver, or should I hook up the audio from the DVD player to the receiver?
What would be the advantage to hook up from the DVD player to the receiver versus the TV to the receiver?
rsonnens 04-03-07, 08:31 PM Hi guys.
I have a quick newbie question.
I bought both the NS75H and NC85HB. One for the bedroom and one for the family room. Both are using HDMI cables from the Motorola 3416 STB's to the TV's.
I have the NS75H hooked up to a Panasonic TC32LX60 LCD TV.
I have the audio from the TV going to my JVC receiver. Should I keep the audio hooked up from the TV to the receiver, or should I hook up the audio from the DVD player to the receiver?
What would be the advantage to hook up from the DVD player to the receiver versus the TV to the receiver?
Many TVs will not pass thru digital audio to the reciever from no broadcast sources. So for example you might not get 5.1 sound by only passing the audio from the TV to the reciever. For my Sony v2500 TV this is the case. Also, if you are using RCA connectors to the TV you also will not be getting digital audio. In my setup I run the DVR to my AVR to my TV.
DennisBP 04-03-07, 09:43 PM Can I hook up one HDTV via the HDMI output and another HDTV via the component output? Both HDTV's will unlikely be on at one time and there will be no receiver in between.
Thanks.
sivartk 04-04-07, 10:44 AM with my sony dvd player hook up via component, the picture looks great and everything works well..However, when i hook up HDMI, i get nothing.(no picture or sound) I tried this going to both my PJ and my HDTV so i figure it must be a problem with the dvd player...Is there something in the menu that i must change before i hook up the HDMI or is my HDMI output just messed up?
No changes are necessary, it sounds like it may be problem with your TV / Monitor / Projector. Are they HDCP compliant?
I have tried conecting a Sony DVP-NS75H the my 8700+ through HDMI-DVI but cannot get them to sync at 720p, only 525p. I have tried changing the edid on the 8700 with powerstrip but no success. I also have an LG LDA-531 and it works no problem all the way to 1080i with the default edid. Are there some custom timings that the Sony is requiring in order to run at 720p through HDMI? If someone has gotten this combination player/proj to work, please help out by posting your solution. I tried watching the LG for a while, very clear picture, but macroblocking was absolutely terrible, hence the reason for wanting to use the sony. ( I have also asked this on the PE8700 thread).
sivartk 04-04-07, 02:51 PM I have this DVD player with my Optoma 720p HD72 projector. All I did was set the DVD player to output 720p over HDMI (if I remember correctly) and it works every time without a problem.
I have my projector set to "native" so it will show a smaller image if the resolution is below 720p.
WantABigScreen 04-06-07, 01:58 PM I'm picking this up this weekend. It's going to be paired with a 5016HD Pyro Plasma.
I'll report how it looks once I get it setup.
droid56 04-09-07, 01:44 AM I did a comparison of my old DVD player and the Sony NS75H, and the old player showed the entire wide screen 2.35:1 version of LOTR, while the Sony upconverter had an aspect ratio that couldn't have contained the full wide angle view of the movie.
Is this fixable on the Sony, and is this always what upconverter DVD players do because the extra pixels make the overall image bigger, thus eliminating the far left and right portion of the image?
I didn't zoom in on the picture, and I'm pretty sure I made the correct settings on both the tv and the DVD player..
girdnerg 04-09-07, 10:46 AM I think you may have missed something. Mine shows the whole pic. The letterboxes on the top and bottom of LOTR are huge on my 16:9 tv.
What's your tv's aspect ratio and how are you connected to the tv? Give as much info as you can and I might be able to give you some more specific help.
Rob
GamerGirl 04-09-07, 11:58 AM Question for you NS75H owners... I'm planning on picking this up soon to go with my new set until the price on an HD-DVD player drops a lil more, and at the moment I'm in the middle of getting a new surround system, too. So for the time being I'm using just the front right and left speakers. Can I connect the player and TV using HDMI for the video and then just run a regular RCA audio cable (L+R) to my TV's (or stereo receiver's) analog audio inputs to get 2-channel audio from DVDs?
jwebb1970 04-09-07, 01:48 PM Question for you NS75H owners... I'm planning on picking this up soon to go with my new set until the price on an HD-DVD player drops a lil more, and at the moment I'm in the middle of getting a new surround system, too. So for the time being I'm using just the front right and left speakers. Can I connect the player and TV using HDMI for the video and then just run a regular RCA audio cable (L+R) to my TV's (or stereo receiver's) analog audio inputs to get 2-channel audio from DVDs?
Yes, you should. I use HDMI for video only and the 75H's optical dig. out for audio to my HT receiver. Don't see why the Sony's analog l/r outs would be any different.
However, if you were going to run the stereo audio into the TV itself, the HDMI cable will do that for you. Does so on my TV.
GamerGirl 04-09-07, 04:04 PM Yes, you should. I use HDMI for video only and the 75H's optical dig. out for audio to my HT receiver. Don't see why the Sony's analog l/r outs would be any different.
However, if you were going to run the stereo audio into the TV itself, the HDMI cable will do that for you. Does so on my TV.
Oh. I guess that makes sense. Hadn't really thought about that. So HDMI passes multi-channel audio but if the unit playing the audio (TV or speakers) doesn't support multi-channel sound, the audio will still be transferred but just played back in stereo?
has sony announced a replacement for the 75H or 85H ...?
Jedi Kermit 04-09-07, 10:10 PM Oh. I guess that makes sense. Hadn't really thought about that. So HDMI passes multi-channel audio but if the unit playing the audio (TV or speakers) doesn't support multi-channel sound, the audio will still be transferred but just played back in stereo?
Yes.
Make sure you have the audio and video settings on your DVD player set to go through the HDMI connection to your TV. Hook up your TV audio to your reciever using the standard RCA cables to get the stereo sound and you're good to go! :)
Supermans 04-09-07, 11:22 PM has sony announced a replacement for the 75H or 85H ...?
The NS75H was a replacement for the NS70H which did have a problem that was well documented. The NS75H does not have any image issues.. At least mine doesn't..
Booner79 04-10-07, 12:16 AM Hey guys,
A newbie on the site but this thread has been great and pretty much sealed my decision to pick up the NS75H. It looks nice so far...but I do have one issue with it. At 1080i, I see a sort of horizontal strobing across the screen and the colour shifts (subtley) from red to green and back again. It's only noticeable in movie scenes where the background is somewhat plain (I noticed it on my Attack of the Clones and Incredibles DVDs). The colour shift is more noticeable in close-up shots of actors as their skin tone goes from a redish hue to a green-yellow one.
No problems at 720p or 480p.
I have a 3-year old Sony 34" HD CRT. The 75H is hooked up via HDMI and an HDMI/DVI converter (my set only has a DVI input). I tried different cables and they all had the same problem...so it's either my TV or the player itself.
I tried scanning through this thread quickly so if this has already been addressed, my bad. But any help would be great.
Supermans 04-10-07, 12:56 AM Hey guys,
A newbie on the site but this thread has been great and pretty much sealed my decision to pick up the NS75H. It looks great so far...but I do have one issue with it. At 1080i, I see a sort of horizontal strobing across the screen and the colour shifts (subtley) from red to green and back again. It's only noticeable in movie scenes where the background is somewhat plain (I noticed it on my Attack of the Clones and Incredibles DVDs). The colour shift is more noticeable in close-up shots of actors as their skin tone goes from a redish hue to a green-yellow one.
No problems at 720p or 480p.
I have a 3-year old Sony 34" HD CRT. The 75H is hooked up via HDMI and an HDMI/DVI converter (my set only has a DVI input). I tried different cables and they all had the same problem...so it's either my TV or the player itself.
I tried scanning through this thread quickly so if this has already been addressed, my bad. But any help would be great.
hmm... never seen that problem before and I had both the DVP-NS70H and then replaced by Sony to the DVP-NS75H after complaining to customer support about the image squish of the first one.. So far the only problems I have with the DVP-NS75H are the black levels are set by default to crush blacks.. So the image is blacker than black and you lose some detail.. However this is fixed if you go into the settings and set it to Vivid1 or Vivid2.. I don't remember which one or you can manually do a custom and up the brightness. Now remember this is seperate from your TV's brightness settings which should be matched up with your new Sony.. Overall I am very very pleased with the quality I get out of my old SD-DVD's and playing movies like "The Rock" Criterion gives even HD a run for its money in many cases.. The Matrix Trilogy SD-DVD's look great upconverted and so do the Star Wars films.. :) Gotta love Indiana Jones Trilogy as well being played on this upconverted... Something has to hold me off until they are released on Blu-Ray...
Booner79 04-10-07, 01:07 AM hmm... never seen that problem before and I had both the DVP-NS70H and then replaced by Sony to the DVP-NS75H after complaining to customer support about the image squish of the first one.. So far the only problems I have with the DVP-NS75H are the black levels are set by default to crush blacks.. So the image is blacker than black and you lose some detail.. However this is fixed if you go into the settings and set it to Vivid1 or Vivid2.. I don't remember which one or you can manually do a custom and up the brightness. Now remember this is seperate from your TV's brightness settings which should be matched up with your new Sony.. Overall I am very very pleased with the quality I get out of my old SD-DVD's and playing movies like "The Rock" Criterion gives even HD a run for its money in many cases.. The Matrix Trilogy SD-DVD's look great upconverted and so do the Star Wars films.. :) Gotta love Indiana Jones Trilogy as well being played on this upconverted... Something has to hold me off until they are released on Blu-Ray...
Yeah totally...I bought this player until the format war is over. Or until I can afford a PS3. :)
I suspect my problem has to do with my TV being an older HD set..and being a CRT. The "strobing" I see looks kinda like a photocopier...a faint white strip that runs from right to left across my screen....and the colours alternate between a redish hue to a greener one. I thought I'd ask around just to be sure it's not the player...since I can still exchange it in the next few weeks for another one.
One solution would be keep the player settings at 720p...but the image really pops out at 1080i so if there's any way to fix the bug (short of buying a new set) I'm all ears.
Supermans 04-10-07, 01:11 AM Yeah totally...I bought this player until the format war is over. Or until I can afford a PS3. :)
I suspect my problem has to do with my TV being an older HD set..and being a CRT. The "strobing" I see looks kinda like a photocopier...a faint white strip that runs from right to left across my screen....and the colours alternate between a redish hue to a greener one. I thought I'd ask around just to be sure it's not the player...since I can still exchange it in the next few weeks for another one.
One solution would be keep the player settings at 720p...but the image really pops out at 1080i so if there's any way to fix the bug (short of buying a new set) I'm all ears.
I don't notice much difference between 720p setting and 1080i on my 720p set. For you is the difference that great that 1080i comes out better? I'm going to have to go back and compare again...
Booner79 04-10-07, 01:33 AM I don't notice much difference between 720p setting and 1080i on my 720p set. For you is the difference that great that 1080i comes out better? I'm going to have to go back and compare again...
Personally I noticed a difference. I'm not sure how to explain it except that the picture seemed just a little more vibrant and had a bit more depth. Like environments and characters had more of a 3D appearance. This was only noticeable on digital transfers like Pixar and Star Wars movies. Anything shot on film and the difference is negligible.
I showed a few friends on the weekend and only one saw the same things I did. Everyone else thought I was crazy. :p
Supermans 04-10-07, 01:49 AM Personally I noticed a difference. I'm not sure how to explain it except that the picture seemed just a little more vibrant and had a bit more depth. Like environments and characters had more of a 3D appearance. This was only noticeable on digital transfers like Pixar and Star Wars movies. Anything shot on film and the difference is negligible.
I showed a few friends on the weekend and only one saw the same things I did. Everyone else thought I was crazy. :p
You are right, I just had to get a little close to my TV :) My Samsung has this feature called Dnie which also enhances the image even further (turning it on and off to test it). This DVD player does a better job at playing SD-DVD's than my PS3...And I have the movie Phantom of the Opera in both Blu-Ray and SD-DVD and I have to tell you that there isn't that much of a difference if you use the DVP-NS75H to play it vs the Blu-Ray being played on the PS3. However when playing POTO SD-DVD on the PS3, it looks like crap since at the moment the Ps3 does not upconvert...Hopefully that is updated with firmware sometime in the future.. Hoever even if it does, I doubt it will do as good a job as the 75H....
DennisBP 04-10-07, 06:50 AM I posted this a few days ago and still no answer - even any guesses?
Can I hook up one HDTV via the HDMI output and another HDTV via the component output? Both HDTV's will unlikely be on at one time and there will be no receiver in between.
I posted a few days ago. If someone has an NS75H working at 720P, would they be able to post the EDID of the projector or native 720P display. I was able to flash my PE8700 with the EDID from my Hitachi RPTV and now the 8700 will sync to 1080i. If I can flash the 8700 with a native 720p EDID, I should be able to get this running at resolution. I've tried building one with different timings but was unable to get it working.
Please help a newbie.
I own a Sony E2000 46". And I just received my DVP-NS75H yesterday. After popping in a couple different DVD's, I'm not noticing anything special about this player. I hooked it up to my TV using HDMI. I have the HDMI settings set to "Auto". Anything else I should be doing?
thanks!
sivartk 04-10-07, 10:19 AM sounds like your TV has a scaler that is as good as the one in this player. For some reason people don't understand that your HDTV will upconvert the signal if you don't have an upconverting player. While staying all digital (HDMI) should provide a better picture, the eyes have it in the end. :)
Now you might notice a difference on a 100" screen as I did with my projector ;)
Well that reason would be because I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff! My wife gave me a budget and I'm just trying to get the best possible equipment for the buck.
So I just spent $120 on a DVD player that wont provide a better image than I'm accustomed to with my $30 Memorex player? Hmm, well we needed a new DVD player anyway, just not one for $120 if it's no improvement.
Booner79 04-10-07, 11:05 AM Well that reason would be because I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff! My wife gave me a budget and I'm just trying to get the best possible equipment for the buck.
So I just spent $120 on a DVD player that wont provide a better image than I'm accustomed to with my $30 Memorex player? Hmm, well we needed a new DVD player anyway, just not one for $120 if it's no improvement.
Sivrtk is right and I've seen his sentiments echoed elsewhere in this forum. Chances are if you have a relatively new HDTV, the upscaling ability found in the set will probably be as good as the ones found in upconverting DVD players...at least at the $100-150 price range.
The main reasons I went with the 75H is because my HDTV is older and I was pretty sure I'd see some improvement in picture quality since a) my tv probably can't upscale that well b) it's the first time I'll make use of the HDMI port and c) I'm upgrading from my 6-year old Toshiba DVD player.
I say if you don't notice any difference in picture quality, just go ahead and get a regular progressive scan DVD player. It'll have the added DivX support and you'll have some extra cash to buy that tv box set you always wanted.
girdnerg 04-10-07, 02:32 PM Please help a newbie.
I own a Sony E2000 46". And I just received my DVP-NS75H yesterday. After popping in a couple different DVD's, I'm not noticing anything special about this player. I hooked it up to my TV using HDMI. I have the HDMI settings set to "Auto". Anything else I should be doing?
thanks!
I have the 50" E2000. I went from an old Sony 5 disc player that didn't even do progressive to this player and noticed a huge difference. My son's playstation, over composite @ 480i, looks bad too when playing a movie. But, I keep hearing the same as the others are saying....a newer progressive is just as good.
The only thing I can suggest is to set the HDMI to 720p (the e2000's native resolution). Since the e2000 "can" take a 1080i signal the "auto" function will send out 1080i. The other setting is Y(something, something) or RGB, the manual suggest the Y?? setting. Might help, might not.
I really don't think any of this will do you any good tho. I actually like 1080i on my e2000 since the background image (the part that is out of focus) looks better to me instead of 720p.
Does the pic actually look "near-HD" like it is supposed to? If it does, then that's as good as it's gonna get.
Rob
gird - that was me, same guy from Friday posting in the Sony E2000 thread. :)
Anyway.... maybe I was watching the wrong movies... I just got Borat from Netflix and popped it in. Looks pretty good. The other movies I was watching might not have been the best test samples; one was kind of old and another was a kid's animated movie.
So... maybe more testing is needed. But I like the way this particular movie looks. I dont have an eye for this stuff so you'll have to forgive me. I dont know what exactly I'm looking for. But this movie looks pretty good.
girdnerg 04-10-07, 04:22 PM gird - that was me, same guy from Friday posting in the Sony E2000 thread. :)
Anyway.... maybe I was watching the wrong movies... I just got Borat from Netflix and popped it in. Looks pretty good. The other movies I was watching might not have been the best test samples; one was kind of old and another was a kid's animated movie.
So... maybe more testing is needed. But I like the way this particular movie looks. I dont have an eye for this stuff so you'll have to forgive me. I dont know what exactly I'm looking for. But this movie looks pretty good.
You cross-poster you :D
Sounds like we have been buying at the same store...well actually I got the 5 disc version, but they are the same as far as play-back.
I think the picture should be very close to what you see at the movie theater.....not perfect, but close.
EDIT: I have found that the source material plays a BIG roll in how the pic looks on an HDTV, so that may be it.
Rob
alinski 04-10-07, 06:27 PM Has anyone heard any big difference between using the optical audio connection vs the analog audio 5.1 connection?
Thanks,
alinski...
sivartk 04-10-07, 06:32 PM analog 5.1? this unit only has a TOS link (SPDIF) and a Digital Coax. It doesn't have an internal processor to decode 5.1 channels and output analog. Only 2 channel out...that would be a big difference between 2 channel analog and 5.1 digital
The digital coax and digital optical outs should sound the same.
Best Buy has these now for $107.99. Several online places do not have them in stock. I got one last night and plugged in the HDMI and the optical audio and everything worked fine with the default settings.
I just bought a refurbished one from sonystyle for $69.95 with free shipping until thursday.
girdnerg 04-11-07, 12:55 PM Best Buy has these now for $107.99. Several online places do not have them in stock. I got one last night and plugged in the HDMI and the optical audio and everything worked fine with the default settings.
While the optical audio may be passing something thru, you may still want to go into the setup and make sure DD and DTS are enabled. I don't think they are by default.
Rob
My Sony NS75H has started acting a little funny. When I first turn it on, it says loading, then it says CANNOT READ DISK when there is no disk. I think it's supposed to say NO DISK. Then when I put a DVD in, the load time seems a lot slower than what it was before. The DVD does end up playing, but I worry that this is a pre cursor to what is about to happen. This just started when I recently started to play DVD+R dual layer disk. I don't know if that's related to what's going on or what. But the load times are much slower on regular DVD now too. I've had the player for about 7 months.
Can someone tell me what is said on the display when you first turn your player on with no disk inside? Does it say NO DISK or CANNOT READ DISK? Thanks.
rsantos97 04-11-07, 03:37 PM Best Buy has these now for $107.99. Several online places do not have them in stock. I got one last night and plugged in the HDMI and the optical audio and everything worked fine with the default settings.
CircuitCity has it for $99 with free shipping online. I got one and used a $15 coupon so it came out to $85.
girdnerg 04-11-07, 05:03 PM My Sony NS75H has started acting a little funny. When I first turn it on, it says loading, then it says CANNOT READ DISK when there is no disk. I think it's supposed to say NO DISK. Then when I put a DVD in, the load time seems a lot slower than what it was before. The DVD does end up playing, but I worry that this is a pre cursor to what is about to happen. This just started when I recently started to play DVD+R dual layer disk. I don't know if that's related to what's going on or what. But the load times are much slower on regular DVD now too. I've had the player for about 7 months.
Can someone tell me what is said on the display when you first turn your player on with no disk inside? Does it say NO DISK or CANNOT READ DISK? Thanks.
I've had a few DVD+R CANNOT READ DISC errors. They have all cleared by remove and reinstall of the disc. Mine reads NO DISC when empty. I've got the DVP-NC85H version so I get the fun of it going thru all five slots first, but then it says it.
Rob
Supermans 04-11-07, 05:39 PM sounds like your TV has a scaler that is as good as the one in this player. For some reason people don't understand that your HDTV will upconvert the signal if you don't have an upconverting player. While staying all digital (HDMI) should provide a better picture, the eyes have it in the end. :)
Now you might notice a difference on a 100" screen as I did with my projector ;)
Even if your HDTV has as good a scaler as the Sony DVP-NS75H, it makes a big difference that it is HDMI as opposed to component...
I've had a few DVD+R CANNOT READ DISC errors. They have all cleared by remove and reinstall of the disc. Mine reads NO DISC when empty. I've got the DVP-NC85H version so I get the fun of it going thru all five slots first, but then it says it.
Rob
Thanks. I'm almost positive that mine said NO DISC when empty before all this stuff happened. It all started happening this week, when I played some DVD+R DL disks in it. They played fine, but the past couple of days my load times are real slow and it says CANNOT READ DISC when no disk is inside. If it starts to mess up, it still is under factory warranty. I think it's covered for one year.
girdnerg 04-12-07, 10:05 AM Thanks. I'm almost positive that mine said NO DISC when empty before all this stuff happened. It all started happening this week, when I played some DVD+R DL disks in it. They played fine, but the past couple of days my load times are real slow and it says CANNOT READ DISC when no disk is inside. If it starts to mess up, it still is under factory warranty. I think it's covered for one year.
Just a thought, but you might try unplugging it for a few minutes and plug it back in to let it clear the memory. Worth a try anyway.
Rob
Just a thought, but you might try unplugging it for a few minutes and plug it back in to let it clear the memory. Worth a try anyway.
Rob
I think the problem is now fixed. I went into the menu and reset everything to factory settings. Everything seems back to normal. When I cut my player on, it says "no disk" now and the load times are better.
If I were to guess what caused the problem, it would be this. You know how the player has a memory in it, like if you play a dvd for 15 minutes, then stop watching it and eject the dvd, the next day you can insert the same dvd and the player will pick up where you left off and start the disc at the 15 minute point. What I think happened was when I was playing a DVD+R DL disc, I got some sort of error reading and it was memorized by the player. So when I took the disc out, the error was still in the memory. I don't know if that's what happened or not, but I think it was. What caused the error IMO was that I put a label on the DVD+R DL. What sucks is that I did that with a bunch of my Dual Layer recordings this week. I'm going to stay away from those labels from now on.
girdnerg 04-12-07, 04:22 PM LOL, that's exactly what I was aiming for by saying to unplug it to clear the memory. 2 different routes to the same destination. :D
Glad you got it working again. I was sure hoping that it wasn't breaking down this soon.
Rob
LOL, that's exactly what I was aiming for by saying to unplug it to clear the memory. 2 different routes to the same destination. :D
Glad you got it working again. I was sure hoping that it wasn't breaking down this soon.
Rob
Yeah, it sure beats buying a new one. I did unplug it, but it still was acting funny. It didn't reset the memory. But when I hit reset in the menu, it wiped the memory clean. Now I'm ticked that I put labels on my DVD+R DL discs. Those things are expensive. On the pack of labels, in very small print on the back it says "may make disc unreadable". They should put that warning in bold face red print on the front. Some of the disc I played seem to work, but I guess a label makes them a little unreliable.
sivartk 04-12-07, 06:22 PM inkjet printable discs are your friends and I saw a photo printer (Epson 2XX?) that prints on inkjet printable discs on clearance at WallyWorld for $35...should have bought it just for the ink :)
raouliii 04-15-07, 04:14 PM Hey guys,
A newbie on the site but this thread has been great and pretty much sealed my decision to pick up the NS75H. It looks nice so far...but I do have one issue with it. At 1080i, I see a sort of horizontal strobing across the screen and the colour shifts (subtley) from red to green and back again. It's only noticeable in movie scenes where the background is somewhat plain (I noticed it on my Attack of the Clones and Incredibles DVDs). The colour shift is more noticeable in close-up shots of actors as their skin tone goes from a redish hue to a green-yellow one.
No problems at 720p or 480p.
I have a 3-year old Sony 34" HD CRT. The 75H is hooked up via HDMI and an HDMI/DVI converter (my set only has a DVI input). I tried different cables and they all had the same problem...so it's either my TV or the player itself.
I tried scanning through this thread quickly so if this has already been addressed, my bad. But any help would be great.The problem is very likely the tv. Check out this Scrolling Vertical Bar (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190083) thread. There are service menu adjustments that will resolve the problem but there are tradeoffs.
Good Luck
Booner79 04-15-07, 05:39 PM The problem is very likely the tv. Check out this Scrolling Vertical Bar (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190083) thread. There are service menu adjustments that will resolve the problem but there are tradeoffs.
Good Luck
Oh wow thanks man! It definitely sounds like the same problem. I'll tinker around later in the week when work frees up.
UPDATE: Worked like a charm. I did notice a drop in colour saturation when adjusting the HDPT but it was compensated for using the DVD presets (I'm now using "Cinema 2" instead of "Cinema 1") and the tv's picture setting. It sharp, but not as razor sharp as before...but still MUCH preferable over the colour shifting and vertical bar. Thanks again for the tip!
jweisler 04-16-07, 11:15 AM I recently bought the NS75H. I've been trying to search this thread for an answer on this but can't seem to locate it.
I am experiencing out-of-sync audio when I listen to the audio from DVD player to stereo. Here is my set up:
DVD HDMI to Television
DVD red/white RCAs to Stereo amp
Television red/white RCAs to Stereo AMP
(Television is Sony projection HD; stereo is a 10-year-old Yamaha with pro-logic).
If I choose to listen to the audio from the Television to Stereo feed, the audio seems fine. But if I choose to listen to the audio from the DVD to Stereo feed, the audio is out of sync.
Would this have to do with the DVD player set up menu? I've looked in the book on how to access the set up menu and it says to turn it on, don't insert a disc, and press enter. But that doesn't seem to bring up the menu for me. And I'm not quite sure I'd know what settings to change in there anyway.
Any help?
samsurd2 04-16-07, 01:09 PM If I choose to listen to the audio from the Television to Stereo feed, the audio seems fine. But if I choose to listen to the audio from the DVD to Stereo feed, the audio is out of sync.
Would this have to do with the DVD player set up menu? I've looked in the book on how to access the set up menu and it says to turn it on, don't insert a disc, and press enter. But that doesn't seem to bring up the menu for me. And I'm not quite sure I'd know what settings to change in there anyway.
See procedure and read NOTES on page 49 of your manual (Adjusting the Delay Between the Picture and Sound).
Rob G68 04-16-07, 07:45 PM Just checked this weeks BB ad, $20.00 off reg price of $119.00 now $99.00
I purchased mine 10 days ago and love it, way better picture than my 2 year old player. I also went to the store today with my reciept and got my $20.00
jweisler 04-17-07, 12:46 PM Thanks for the help I've already gotten on fixing my audio/video sync issue. I now have this other newbie question:
For my regular cable TV, I have my television set to show anything broadcast in 16:9 as 16:9, and anything that is actually 4:3 as 4:3 (not stretched). I believe on my Sony TV this is called "normal", but this is actually "native", right?
Anyway, is there a way to do the same thing for DVDs? If it is a widescreen DVD it would take up the whole screen, but if not it would frame it with black bars? I set the DVD settings to tell it that my TV was 16:9, but I put a widescreen movie in and when the TV was on "normal" it showed it scrunched up as 4:3. (HDMI connection). Also, I have my upscaling set to 1080, not auto.
Also, should a "widescreen" DVD fill the entire screen, but a "widescreen letterbox" be letterboxed within the screen (and I'll have to manually blow it up to fill the screen?"
girdnerg 04-17-07, 04:35 PM Anyway, is there a way to do the same thing for DVDs? If it is a widescreen DVD it would take up the whole screen, but if not it would frame it with black bars? I set the DVD settings to tell it that my TV was 16:9, but I put a widescreen movie in and when the TV was on "normal" it showed it scrunched up as 4:3. (HDMI connection). Also, I have my upscaling set to 1080, not auto.
It sounds like a TV setting to me. I have the Sony KDF50-E2000 3 chip lcd RP TV and when I put anything out at high def the "normal" setting is not available and the base setting is "full". Put in the DVD and try that setting.
Also, should a "widescreen" DVD fill the entire screen, but a "widescreen letterbox" be letterboxed within the screen (and I'll have to manually blow it up to fill the screen?"
A widescreen movie will fill it up from side-to-side, you may still get letterboxes on the top and bottom depending on the aspect ratio of the movie. Widescreen letterbox (I know it as 4:3 letterbox???) will have them on all 4 sides and zooming in is the only way to fill the screen.
There is also a setting in the DVD player for 4:3 that will send it out with bars or stretch it. An example would be a 4:3 video after a widescreen movie. In one mode the video would be normal 4:3 and the other would be stretched to fit the screen. Can't remember which is which, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out. I think it's on the same screen you set the TV type to 16:9.
Rob
timescape 04-17-07, 10:04 PM I am new to this forum. Looking for some help on a problem I've been experiencing with my NS75H DVD Player. I purchased a new HT system this past Dec which includes this DVD Player connected via an HDMI cable to a Sony KF-50E200A Grand Wega 50" LCD Projection TV. The audio is connected via optical cable to a Yamaha HTR-5940 AV Rcvr.
The problem is during playback of commercial discs (have not played any others). The playback will just stop at no particular interval that I've detected. Sometimes the audio will continue for several secsond after the video stops. The DVD player will shut down if any button on the remote is pressed. I have not waited to see if the player shuts off automatically. When I turn the player back on and try to playback the disc, the disc starts up at the last stoped position before the stoppage. This problem occurs quite frequently, at least every other disc, and over the last few weeks, more frequently.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems? If so what did you do to resolve the problem?
I have not been able to find anything on this problem in other site, and to be honest, I only quickly scanned the last several pages in this forum, so I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed.
First, see if there is a way to reset the dvd player- I don't remember if there is or not. If not, unplug it for a bit and then replug and see if this is still an issue. It may end up being an issue with the remote, if I read the post correctly, soo try a different remote. Otherwise, it sounds like the player is faulty. If none of the above works and it's still under warranty, I would take it in.
Good luck with this.
Buckeye911 04-19-07, 01:59 AM I just picked up the next to last NS75H at my local BB on my way to work today. I can't wait to hook it up Thursday night. CC and BB are having a great sale on these units right now. Most locations are now sold out. I have a Panasonic 42PX60U and the salesman said they had the NS75H hooked up to the same tv a while ago and in his opinion the PQ was the best of any upconverting dvd player he had seen.
saunupe1911 04-19-07, 09:46 AM Does this DVD player play everything like SVCDs, VCDs, DIVX etc
sivartk 04-19-07, 10:09 AM Does this DVD player play everything like SVCDs, VCDs, DIVX etc
No, it won't play DIVX, it should play VCD's, but I'm not sure if it will play SVCD's. My guess is that it will if the header looks like a VCD.
Buckeye911 04-19-07, 10:11 PM I got my new NS75H hooked up tonight. All I can say is "WOW!!!" I wasn't expecting much in terms of PQ since my Panasonic plasma supposedly has a pretty decent scaler but there is a noticeable improvement in PQ. I'm running hdmi into my plasma and digital optical to my Onkyo receiver. The sound is terrific, I am very pleased.
I'm just curious. Do most people run their dvd players through their receivers/amps or run the video through the tv and only audio through the receiver? I'm new to surround sound systems so I was just wondering.
samsurd2 04-19-07, 11:11 PM I got my new NS75H hooked up tonight. All I can say is "WOW!!!" I wasn't expecting much in terms of PQ since my Panasonic plasma supposedly has a pretty decent scaler but there is a noticeable improvement in PQ. I'm running hdmi into my plasma and digital optical to my Onkyo receiver. The sound is terrific, I am very pleased.
I'm just curious. Do most people run their dvd players through their receivers/amps or run the video through the tv and only audio through the receiver? I'm new to surround sound systems so I was just wondering.
I've got the NC85H which is the 5 disc version of your NS75H. I too saw a noticable difference in PQ between the Sony and an non-upscaling Samsung DVDR on a Samsung DLP.
As for how folks hook up their components, I think you'll find it's a mixed bag. Some (like me) like to run all A/V through the receiver to simplify switching and achieve one-cable-to-the-TV-Nirvana. As many others swear that the only way to hook up is to have all video go directly to the TV and send all audio to the receiver. Some of them achieve a similar altered state via a universal remote that's programmed to do all the necessary A/V switching with the press of a single button. From my perspective I say "to each his own" and move on.
raidersrock 04-20-07, 12:30 AM Just got this DVD player. Looks great but when I use the zoom function on the remote in 16:9 mode it puts a little magnifying glass x 2 in the upper right corner that doesnt disappear. How do I make that go away? THanks. When I hit clear it goes back to original letterbox.
sivartk 04-20-07, 10:12 AM don't zoom, watch in original aspect ratio. If you DVD isn't "enchanced for 16:9 TV's" go buy a new one. I didn't even know that this unit had that function and I've had mine for 8 months now.
raidersrock 04-20-07, 10:26 AM Well hopefully there is another answer other than don't use the function. There must be a way to clear the display from the x2 thing. On other DVDs I have seen there is no x2 that consistantly stays on the screen when zoomed.
Well hopefully there is another answer other than don't use the function. There must be a way to clear the display from the x2 thing. On other DVDs I have seen there is no x2 that consistantly stays on the screen when zoomed.
As far as I know, you can't remove the icon. It is the one con of the unit. I don't use the zoom, so it was never an issue for me. If I need to zoom on a non-anamorphic DVD, I use the zoom on my TV instead. What kind of TV do you have? If it's a HD widescreen TV, I imagine it has a zoom function where you can change aspect ratios.
jwebb1970 04-20-07, 11:29 AM don't zoom, watch in original aspect ratio. If you DVD isn't "enchanced for 16:9 TV's" go buy a new one. I didn't even know that this unit had that function and I've had mine for 8 months now.
Well, in some cases you can't just buy a new one as there isn't yet a newer version available. I also have this player and a handful of older DVDs that are non-anamorphic letterbox--some of which are out of print. Zooming from the player would be preferable, as any subtitle material would be repositioned and remain intact on screen. Switching aspect on a TV leads to getting those cut off.
Out of all the non-anamorphic titles I have, though, only the "original" theatrical Star Wars movies have any subtitles that would be an issue for me. But, when you've seen those movies as much as I have, you already know what Greedo, Jabba and Co. are saying already anyway. :)
That said, the zoom icon issue is the only real problem I have with the 75H. Otherwise, it's been a great player.
For viewing non anamorphic DVD's, you need to get the DVD Player out of HD mode. Change the aspect ratio to 480P. Now you can use your TV's zoom features. Another option is to connect the player via component cables to a different input. In other words, the player will be connected to HDMi via the HDMI cable and to component via component. All you need to do then is change inputs.
jwebb1970 04-23-07, 01:54 PM For viewing non anamorphic DVD's, you need to get the DVD Player out of HD mode. Change the aspect ratio to 480P. Now you can use your TV's zoom features. Another option is to connect the player via component cables to a different input. In other words, the player will be connected to HDMi via the HDMI cable and to component via component. All you need to do then is change inputs.
How is this different than "zooming" an upscaled (720p/1080i) image via HDMI? My set (Hitachi 51F59A) will still allow aspect ratio changes with 1080i output/HDMI. And if need be, it's what I do with non-anamorphic DVDs.
My only hangup with zooming from the TV is the cutoff of subtitle info, which is repositioned when using the 75H zoom function (but obviously leaves the zoom icon on-screen). How, if at all, would switching resolution (to 480p or i) and/or mode of output (component or HDMI) affect this issue? Or any PQ issues?
Does switching to a 480p output change the output aspect ratio in anyway? I would think switching aspect to 4:3 then zooming to fit 16x9 would still cut off subtitle info, since it would then be positioned within the lower black letterbox bar (which would be partially or completely cut off).
Again, it's what switching aspect on the display does to subtitle info that is my major non-anamorphic DVD hangup with the 75H. And since I use subtitles on those older discs so little anyway (original SW Trilogy is the only one that kinda matters for me), it's not a giant issue.
sivartk 04-23-07, 02:11 PM A non-anamorphic DVD is just a 4:3 image with the "black bars" as part of the image. So no matter what resolution the DVD Player outputs the image (480p/1080i) the image is still a 4:3 image. So zooming (TV or Player) and/or stretching is the only way to avoid the window boxed image.
jwebb1970 04-23-07, 03:45 PM A non-anamorphic DVD is just a 4:3 image with the "black bars" as part of the image. So no matter what resolution the DVD Player outputs the image (480p/1080i) the image is still a 4:3 image. So zooming (TV or Player) and/or stretching is the only way to avoid the window boxed image.
Exactly.
Don't see how the non-anamorphic video is being sent (component or HDMI) or it's output resolution would have any affect in terms of how it's displayed on a 16x9 screen.
I got an answer along the lines of "set the player to 480i output" to the zooming question when I contacted Sony about this. Contacted Sony originally to ask if the 75H zoom icon could be disengaged during playback. Would just prefer to zoom non-anamorphic stuff from the player instead of the TV, just to keep any player info/subtitles displayed on screen properly (not cut off).
Then again, the Sony CSR told me to try 480i, knowing full well the player was hooked up via HDMI (which the 75H does not support over HDMI), so I didn't put much value to that particular Sony drone's info/hepfullness.
If my only choice is to change the TV aspect to fill the screen with a non-anamorphic letterbox image, so be it. Not something I have to deal with the vast majority of the time, however.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the difference between zooming with the player or tv. Maybe different brand tvs zoom differently than others, but my Sony zooms perfectly. I don't recall losing any subtitles or anything like that and I watched the non-anamorphic Star Wars using the zoom from the tv. Guidos words were readable. The zooms from the tvs resulted in perfect aspect ratios. However, my dad's Vizio is a little more difficult to work with in regards to the zooming for proper aspect ratios.
sivartk 04-24-07, 06:28 PM Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the difference between zooming with the player or tv.
The player leaves the zoom icon on screen during playback (as stated previously)
anyone have a region free hack?
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gscundiff 04-29-07, 08:03 AM Just hooked up new DVP-NS75H to my Vizio 32 LCD with HDMI and DVD's are displaying faint pixel wide vertical lines every inch across the entrie screen similar to venetian blinds.
I tried the component feed, same vertical lines...was wondering if anyone had seen this before (seems like a defective unit, and I'll return it for another one)?
I’ve never had this with any setting on my Costco equivalent unit- it must be a bad player. You did check that it's not the set? I've heard of this with a computer LCD going bad after awhile. It's most likely the player’s processor though. If you don't have another player to test the set with, take it back anyway and you will then know. Let us know what happens. Good luck.
Buckeye911 04-29-07, 01:49 PM It sure seems like you got a bad one, definitely take it back for an exchange.
burdell1 05-24-07, 05:20 PM has anyone tried this http://www.selen.org/sonydvd.html just wondering if it truly does make it region free
powerknowledge 05-31-07, 03:09 PM The Situation:
I have a Sony SXRD 60A2020 (1080P) that's currently being fed, via component, a 480i signal from a 4-year-old Sony DVP-NC655P. Cinemotion is set at auto and DRC is High Density. The image has been carefully calibrated with DVE and Avia.
I arrived at the current configuration after LOTS (probably 20-30 hours) of comparisons and tweaks. For the record, all other image "enhancements" (detail enhancer, noise reduction) are disabled (they did horrendous things, IMO). It looks pretty good on most sources, excellent on some (LOTR, SWE3).
Finally, were I to get an upscaling DVD player it would be connected via HDMI.
The Question:
Could anyone attest whether the NS75H is more capable at upconverting (to 1080i)and/or deinterlacing than the current-generation SXRD?
I find that without DRC on, the image is overly-soft. But with it on -- and in varying degrees, depending on the disc -- things can get slightly to very noisy, and there is in every case ever-so-slight EE that cannot be disabled.
I wonder whether the NS75H alleviates these issues, while still providing the (sometimes remarkable) clarity and detail provided by DRC. Or better, whether the NS75 is even better...when mated with this particular set, of course. Or worse, if it essentially has the same scaling as the SXRD, the only benefit thus being a direct-digital interface with HDMI.
Thanks for reading this long post. And if it's not too much to ask, please only reply if you've got both this player (or its changer equivalent) AND an equivalent SXRD. PM me if you like, to keep this thread from getting even MORE cluttered. :)
WaldorfSalad 05-31-07, 03:46 PM The Situation:
I have a Sony SXRD 60A2020 (1080P) that's currently being fed, via component, a 480i signal from a 4-year-old Sony DVP-NC655P. Cinemotion is set at auto and DRC is High Density. The image has been carefully calibrated with DVE and Avia.
I arrived at the current configuration after LOTS (probably 20-30 hours) of comparisons and tweaks. For the record, all other image "enhancements" (detail enhancer, noise reduction) are disabled (they did horrendous things, IMO). It looks pretty good on most sources, excellent on some (LOTR, SWE3).
Finally, were I to get an upscaling DVD player it would be connected via HDMI.
The Question:
Could anyone attest whether the NS75H is more capable at upconverting (to 1080i)and/or deinterlacing than the current-generation SXRD?
I find that without DRC on, the image is overly-soft. But with it on -- and in varying degrees, depending on the disc -- things can get slightly to very noisy, and there is in every case ever-so-slight EE that cannot be disabled.
I wonder whether the NS75H alleviates these issues, while still providing the (sometimes remarkable) clarity and detail provided by DRC. Or better, whether the NS75 is even better...when mated with this particular set, of course. Or worse, if it essentially has the same scaling as the SXRD, the only benefit thus being a direct-digital interface with HDMI.
Thanks for reading this long post. And if it's not too much to ask, please only reply if you've got both this player (or its changer equivalent) AND an equivalent SXRD. PM me if you like, to keep this thread from getting even MORE cluttered. :)I have the NC85, which is the 5-disc changer version of the NS75, connected to a 52XBR3 LCD TV (prior to that I had the 50XBR1 SXRD) and after using at 1080i over HDMI for a while I tried it at 480p (still over HDMI) and preferred that better. This would seem to suggest that the upconversion in the TV (uses DRV-MFv2.5) is better than that in the player. At the TV end I've tried DRC Modes 1, 2 and Off and prefer Mode 1. Mode 2 seems to be rather noisy for upconverted material even though its the mode Sony recommends for upconverted material.
powerknowledge 06-01-07, 10:50 AM I have the NC85, which is the 5-disc changer version of the NS75, connected to a 52XBR3 LCD TV (prior to that I had the 50XBR1 SXRD) and after using at 1080i over HDMI for a while I tried it at 480p (still over HDMI) and preferred that better. This would seem to suggest that the upconversion in the TV (uses DRV-MFv2.5) is better than that in the player. At the TV end I've tried DRC Modes 1, 2 and Off and prefer Mode 1. Mode 2 seems to be rather noisy for upconverted material even though its the mode Sony recommends for upconverted material.
Thanks for this!
Unfortunately, this isn't quite as "apples to apples" on the display side as I'd hoped: the SXRD 1) Uses DRC-MFv1 (and I haven't been able to find a good comparison between this and the higher-end, newer v2.5 in the Bravias and XBR2s); 2) Only has one level / mode of DRC for moving images ("High Density"/4X; likely one of the upgrades in V2.5 is selectable DRC then?); and 3) DRC is defeated when feeding the set any signal above 480i (the SXRD does, of course, upscale everything to 1080p, but without the DRC on for SD, 480i/p sources, the image is overly-soft, with fine details completely obscured -- of course, comparatively speaking to what it looks like with DRC on).
So all that to say that it's clear that YOUR set's upscaling/VP is superior to the NS75/NC85; it's also likely superior to my set's. ;) Which leaves you in a position that I envy, and me, perhaps, still at square one.
But again, I really do appreciate the response! Anyone else?
Edit: Maybe the question is better put this way: How does the NS75's 1080i image (untouched by any SXRD image processing) over HDMI compare to what the set does to a clean, component-fed, 480i signal run through Cinemotion and DRC (with all other video processing adjustments/enhancements/etc. set at off or default)? Particularly interested in: clarity, depth, color, and noise.
girdnerg 06-01-07, 12:25 PM powerknowledge,
If you haven't already thought of it, you may want to post this in the thread about your specific TV. Double your chances of a "apples to apples" comparison.
I have the NC85 version and it does a way better job of scaling on my KDF-50E2000 (720p).
Rob
powerknowledge 06-01-07, 12:42 PM powerknowledge,
If you haven't already thought of it, you may want to post this in the thread about your specific TV. Double your chances of a "apples to apples" comparison.
I have the NC85 version and it does a way better job of scaling on my KDF-50E2000 (720p).
Rob
Thanks, might do that. I posted here because a) some other folks (a while back in the thread) briefly mentioned they had paired this player with the same TV I have, and b) if I go to the page for my TV, I'll get 3 pages of people telling me to get an Oppo instead. :rolleyes:
Looking at the specs for your set, this seems like a more "apples to apples" comparison on the video processing side of things: the whole 720p vs. 1080p difference notwithstanding, my set and yours have the same DRC, scaling engine, etc.
So a question for you, if you don't mind: had you ever tried running a 480i DVD signal into your set and applied Cinemotion and DRC to it -- and if so, how did/does THAT compare to the NC85's upscaled image? It's that exact A/B comparison that I'm really interested in, if you'd be so kind.
Thanks!!!
koolmoj 06-03-07, 03:27 AM Just hooked up the Sony 75H via HDMI to my 4 month old Samsung HL-S5086w DLP and I must say I wasn't wowed by the upconverting abilities of the Sony 75H. Before the Sony 75H I had a 6 year old Sony DVD player hooked via component @ 480i and the picture was outstanding with the Samsung doing the deinterlacing & upconversion. Because of this I was on the fence about getting a an upconverting DVD player. After reading the forums here for a few months I took the plunge and got the Sony 75H hoping to see an improvement. Not so much, after playing around with it for a while I get the best results with setting the player to 480p and let the display do the work. When I set the Sony 75H to 720p I got a lot of noise in the picture and lost a lot of detail compared to the old Sony @ 480i component.
My experience with different setups that I've seen is that the newer HDTV's do a great job of upconverting DVD than displays in the past. I did notice quite an improvement in the sound department though so I think it was a good purchase just for that matter. Just my two sense, I'm no expert by any means but I want to get into habit of contributing to this great community instead of just being an observer.
sivartk 06-03-07, 11:14 AM I thought that my 75H did a good job on my 100" screen and Optoma HD72 projector. Then I bought a Toshiba HD-D2 HD DVD player (Costco - $250) and found out just how lacking the Sony is at up-converting. The Toshiba unit up-converts great and plays HD DVD's to boot. So, I completely understand why your display may do a better job than the 75H.
I thought that my 75H did a good job on my 100" screen and Optoma HD72 projector. Then I bought a Toshiba HD-D2 HD DVD player (Costco - $250) and found out just how lacking the Sony is at up-converting. The Toshiba unit up-converts great and plays HD DVD's to boot. So, I completely understand why your display may do a better job than the 75H.
Same here. Bought the Toshiba and there's no comparison. It's night and day. I'm returning the Sony back to Sony (paid $75).
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Not so much, after playing around with it for a while I get the best results with setting the player to 480p and let the display do the work. When I set the Sony 75H to 720p I got a lot of noise in the picture and lost a lot of detail compared to the old Sony @ 480i component.
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Same here. Got the best picture at 480p but my TV skewed the picture to the right for some reason.
Count me among the believers as well. I just retired my NS-75h to the bedroom and now have the A2 feeding my Sharp DT-500 projector. The upscaler on this machine 'kills' the Sony and that's saying a lot, the Sony is a great machine and I've boasted of its capabilities for over a year now.
Apocalypto last night looked so good and that was just a standard DVD, Serenity in HD is simply stunning. The Toshiba is a marvel to use.
WaldorfSalad 06-04-07, 12:27 AM Count me among the believers as well. I just retired my NS-75h to the bedroom and now have the A2 feeding my Sharp DT-500 projector. The upscaler on this machine 'kills' the Sony and that's saying a lot, the Sony is a great machine and I've boasted of its capabilities for over a year now.
Apocalypto last night looked so good and that was just a standard DVD, Serenity in HD is simply stunning. The Toshiba is a marvel to use.It (HD-A2) would be even better if it had the stop/resume capability found on just about every standard DVD player ever made. :(
Hey everyone, just got my first HDTV and upconvert dvd player. Got the Sony Upconvert to go along with the Sony 40 inch XBR2.
I have been noticing on the picture quality, especially in dark scenes, that it seems almost like the contrast ratio is very low. Almost like things have a very slight green tint to the picture.
I know upconvert players cannot display perfect HD quality images, but I was wondering if this is normal.
Anyone else out there with a similar set up? Is there a DVD player that might be better? Would going with a blu ray dvd player get me a better picture quality? Or a ps3?
Thanks for the help.
Chris Gerhard 06-04-07, 05:41 AM Hey everyone, just got my first HDTV and upconvert dvd player. Got the Sony Upconvert to go along with the Sony 40 inch XBR2.
I have been noticing on the picture quality, especially in dark scenes, that it seems almost like the contrast ratio is very low. Almost like things have a very slight green tint to the picture.
I know upconvert players cannot display perfect HD quality images, but I was wondering if this is normal.
Anyone else out there with a similar set up? Is there a DVD player that might be better? Would going with a blu ray dvd player get me a better picture quality? Or a ps3?
Thanks for the help.
Have you calibrated your display? That is not normal. Yes, of course Blu-ray is better than DVD. Not all Blu-ray players offer better DVD performance than the DVP-NS75H. The Samsung BD-P1200 is one that is better in my opinion.
Chris
girdnerg 06-04-07, 12:02 PM Thanks, might do that. I posted here because a) some other folks (a while back in the thread) briefly mentioned they had paired this player with the same TV I have, and b) if I go to the page for my TV, I'll get 3 pages of people telling me to get an Oppo instead. :rolleyes:
Looking at the specs for your set, this seems like a more "apples to apples" comparison on the video processing side of things: the whole 720p vs. 1080p difference notwithstanding, my set and yours have the same DRC, scaling engine, etc.
So a question for you, if you don't mind: had you ever tried running a 480i DVD signal into your set and applied Cinemotion and DRC to it -- and if so, how did/does THAT compare to the NC85's upscaled image? It's that exact A/B comparison that I'm really interested in, if you'd be so kind.
Thanks!!!
When I first got the NC85, I was waiting on my HDMI cable from monoprice and hooked it up with component cables. Fed it both 480i/p. I did play with the controls, but I honestly don't remember if I touched Cinemotion and DRC or not. The PQ did significantly improve with the upscale thru HDMI.
One other test that I did do that might help was hook up the PS2 to the side composite inputs. Running a DVD thru it looked very grainy. With composite, I beleave that Cinemotion and DRC are on by default.
I'm gonna have the entertainment center pulled out on 6/6/07 for my VIP622 from E* installation and will try to remember to do a better test for you.
Rob
guitardedboy 06-04-07, 12:38 PM I bought a NS75H yesterday (I took a JVC & a Samsung back in the last 3 days)
This DVD player kicked the JVC & Samsung's arse. I couldn't be happier with the picture even though I have an old school HDTV with component only. I have no jaggies, the pixelation is almost obsolete in super dark scenes even. I'm glad I found the reviews for this DVD player. I was starting to think every DVD player was junk.
I still have to play with it a little to just see all the options, but all in all I'm happy with my purchase.
I bought mine from Sears...they pricematched Circuit City's 99 bucks, than gave me the 10% difference.
I got it with tax & a two year warrant out the door for 119.40! I'm psyched :)
Thanks!
powerknowledge 06-04-07, 03:30 PM When I first got the NC85, I was waiting on my HDMI cable from monoprice and hooked it up with component cables. Fed it both 480i/p. I did play with the controls, but I honestly don't remember if I touched Cinemotion and DRC or not. The PQ did significantly improve with the upscale thru HDMI.
One other test that I did do that might help was hook up the PS2 to the side composite inputs. Running a DVD thru it looked very grainy. With composite, I beleave that Cinemotion and DRC are on by default.
I'm gonna have the entertainment center pulled out on 6/6/07 for my VIP622 from E* installation and will try to remember to do a better test for you.
Rob
Thanks, Rob. You're my hero if you can find the time to do that; if not, your notes on the "HDMI bump" alone are helpful.
P.S.: I believe that Cinemotion and DRC are only able to be activated with a 480i signal, whether that signal is over component or s-vid (I'm not sure if a 480p signal is passable over composite, and in any case it'd certainly be a lot grainer than component or s-vid given the nature of that kind of connection). It also works with 480i cable signals. But in all cases, I think you have to consciously activate both Cinemotion and DRC on a per-input basis (maybe not with Cinemotion, though; that might be defaulted at "auto").
Hey everyone, just got my first HDTV and upconvert dvd player. Got the Sony Upconvert to go along with the Sony 40 inch XBR2.
I have been noticing on the picture quality, especially in dark scenes, that it seems almost like the contrast ratio is very low. Almost like things have a very slight green tint to the picture.
I know upconvert players cannot display perfect HD quality images, but I was wondering if this is normal.
Anyone else out there with a similar set up? Is there a DVD player that might be better? Would going with a blu ray dvd player get me a better picture quality? Or a ps3?
Thanks for the help.
Try setting the Sony to Cinema 1 or Cinema 2 in the video settings. And adjust for the green push on the TV input that's connected to the Sony. Your Sony should remember separate video settings for each input.
Have you calibrated your display? That is not normal. Yes, of course Blu-ray is better than DVD. Not all Blu-ray players offer better DVD performance than the DVP-NS75H. The Samsung BD-P1200 is one that is better in my opinion.
Chris
nope...how do i do this?
Chris Gerhard 06-05-07, 06:06 AM nope...how do i do this?
Having a professional ISF calibration is best but most of us don't do that. There are two calibration DVD's that get a lot of discussion online, Avia and DVE. I use DVE and although it is a little cumbersome to use, it will provide step by step instructions to adjust your display. Without an adjustment of this kind, your display is most likely the cause of your issues.
Chris
powerknowledge 06-05-07, 08:22 AM Having a professional ISF calibration is best but most of us don't do that. There are two calibration DVD's that get a lot of discussion online, Avia and DVE. I use DVE and although it is a little cumbersome to use, it will provide step by step instructions to adjust your display. Without an adjustment of this kind, your display is most likely the cause of your issues.
Chris
If you're new to the calibration game (and don't want to wait to have avia or dve shipped), you could start with the THX Optimizer available on some discs (Star Wars, Indy Jones, etc.). It's not as comprehensive as Avia or DVE, but it will get your contrast, brightness, color and hue in more decent shape than otherwise.
To do this properly regardless of the disc you use, you should a) set all DVD player settings to their default position (including picture mode: turn off 'cinema I or II' or whatever you have it set on, and instead set it at whatever "normal" is), and b)do likewise for you display (no "vivid" mode setting, and for a Sony set it to "custom").
Depending on how long you've lived with uncalibrated displays, the image might look too dark, not colorful enough, etc. Give your eyes a day or two to adjust; you'll actually be seeing a truer, better image. And if you're still not happy, you're of course free to adjust.
Hope this helps!
Do you guys use the BNR and MNR? does it make a big difference in the picture?
should i have my player set on 1080i or 720p for the xbr? Also...should i have it set on YCbCr or RGB?
Thanks for the help
CT_Wiebe 06-06-07, 03:18 AM nope...how do i do this?See the threads in this forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=139. Here is a summary of calibration techniques: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6368677&&#post6368677.
O332H -- I leave both of those (BNR & MNR) turned off (disabled). They make the image worse, IMHO.
Tesno -- It depends on which XBR2 you have. Try ecah one and seee which combination looks better. Generally the YCbCr is the better choice, and using the resolution which matches your display is also the best (see your XBR manual).
well my tv is 1080p. 1080i would be the closest right? Would it have been better to get a dvd player that can upconvert to 1080p? I had been looking at the new pioneer--it was the same price but i heard more good things about the sony.
koolmoj 06-07-07, 09:11 AM should i have my player set on 1080i or 720p for the xbr? Also...should i have it set on YCbCr or RGB?
Thanks for the help
I got the best results setting the player to 480p and color mode to YCbCr (I have a 720p Samsung DLP, which apperently has a better scaler than the Sony through my testing). I noticed a lot more noise in the picture with the color mode set to RGB. Is there any more educated people on the subject that can explain the difference between RGB & YCbCr?
:confused:
Aren't DVDs (mpeg) encoded as YCbCr as their color space?
girdnerg 06-07-07, 02:32 PM Thanks, Rob. You're my hero if you can find the time to do that; if not, your notes on the "HDMI bump" alone are helpful.
P.S.: I believe that Cinemotion and DRC are only able to be activated with a 480i signal, whether that signal is over component or s-vid (I'm not sure if a 480p signal is passable over composite, and in any case it'd certainly be a lot grainer than component or s-vid given the nature of that kind of connection). It also works with 480i cable signals. But in all cases, I think you have to consciously activate both Cinemotion and DRC on a per-input basis (maybe not with Cinemotion, though; that might be defaulted at "auto").
Well, I got to play with it a little. Running the DVD player @ 480i to the TV via composite and s-video both looked too grainy for me no matter how I played with the settings. Oddly enough the the straight composite looked better than s-video.
Component @ 480i very similar to composite. @ 480p it improved considerably. Very hard to tell a difference from HDMI @ any resolution.
HDMI was, IMO, the best. Even tho my TV is 720p native, 1080i over HDMI looks the best.
My conclusion is that the Sony KDF-50E2000 does just as good a job at scaling the image as the NC85, but the NC85 deinterlaces better. The TV did not handle 480i signals that well. The PQ was very soft as the edges were not well defined. 480p and up was handled much better. Sometimes I could only tell a very subtle difference...like the foreground would be sharp on all resolutions, but I could tell a difference on the clarity of the background in the scene.
Hope that helps,
Rob
powerknowledge 06-07-07, 11:29 PM Well, I got to play with it a little. Running the DVD player @ 480i to the TV via composite and s-video both looked too grainy for me no matter how I played with the settings. Oddly enough the the straight composite looked better than s-video.
Component @ 480i very similar to composite. @ 480p it improved considerably. Very hard to tell a difference from HDMI @ any resolution.
HDMI was, IMO, the best. Even tho my TV is 720p native, 1080i over HDMI looks the best.
My conclusion is that the Sony KDF-50E2000 does just as good a job at scaling the image as the NC85, but the NC85 deinterlaces better. The TV did not handle 480i signals that well. The PQ was very soft as the edges were not well defined. 480p and up was handled much better. Sometimes I could only tell a very subtle difference...like the foreground would be sharp on all resolutions, but I could tell a difference on the clarity of the background in the scene.
Hope that helps,
Rob
That helps immensely. I just may pick up an NC85 this weekend and give it a test run! :D Thanks, thanks, and thanks again.
Chris Gerhard 06-08-07, 06:10 AM If you're new to the calibration game (and don't want to wait to have avia or dve shipped), you could start with the THX Optimizer available on some discs (Star Wars, Indy Jones, etc.). It's not as comprehensive as Avia or DVE, but it will get your contrast, brightness, color and hue in more decent shape than otherwise.
To do this properly regardless of the disc you use, you should a) set all DVD player settings to their default position (including picture mode: turn off 'cinema I or II' or whatever you have it set on, and instead set it at whatever "normal" is), and b)do likewise for you display (no "vivid" mode setting, and for a Sony set it to "custom").
Depending on how long you've lived with uncalibrated displays, the image might look too dark, not colorful enough, etc. Give your eyes a day or two to adjust; you'll actually be seeing a truer, better image. And if you're still not happy, you're of course free to adjust.
Hope this helps!
I always forget about the THX Optimizer, that is probably a good idea and less expensive. I have never used it.
Chris
powerknowledge 06-08-07, 10:36 AM I always forget about the THX Optimizer, that is probably a good idea and less expensive. I have never used it.
Chris
If you've got a disc with it on there, absolutely use it: you've already "paid for it"! :D
If you're REALLY anal-retentive (like me), DVE (Digital Video Essentials) and Avia can be found at many big box B&M stores (BB, CC), and cheaper online (around $20).
Some words of caution with these:
1) Avia is much easier to use, especially after the first "full run-through" (e.g., going back to review specific patterns, etc.), but is somewhat less comprehensive than DVE in terms of total system calibration on the video end of things;
2) DVE has more professional-end calibration screens (for grayscale, RGB, etc.) AND comes with a 3-strip color filter for really accurate color/tint adjustment (can't remember if Avia includes one) that can also be used with the THX optimizer color screens for quicker adjustments. This is VERY nice. BUT its layout and navigation is a total mess if you want to come back for a quick adjustment after the first run-through; on that count, THX Optimizer and Avia win. The upside to DVE is that its "full run-through" is INCREDIBLY thorough: not only taking you through each adjustment step-by-step, but talking you through each, and also telling you why each is important and how one setting (say, contrast) can affect another (say, brightness). But with DVE (to a greater extent than with Avia) you'll have to block off a couple hours to get through it all in full: it even goes through the history of home video, differences between analog and digital processing, etc. In other words: cool stuff, but stuff you may not need or have the desire to watch to simply calibrate your set.
3) Unless you have a SPL meter, there is little difference between how useful DVE, Avia, and THX Optimizer are in helping you set speaker levels. All let you know whether you have inverted speaker polarities (checking for out of phase speakers), and all provide a white-noise test tone (which most receivers do anyway, and is my preferred way of setting these levels: there has been a lot of discussion around the fact that each of these calibration discs' sound test patterns are slightly different, so best to adjust this from the source itself). In short: the sound calibration features across these methods are not the reason for the more or less casual listener/viewer to run out and spend the extra $.
4) If you go the DVE route, be careful: some online and B&M merchants are still selling the old "Video Essentials" DVD, which is outdated (it was mastered from, and speaks more to, calibrations for Laserdiscs than DVDs). If it has a black cover and snapper case, don't buy it. If it has a grey/silver cover and a clamshell case, that's the one to get.
5) Finally, if you want to go REALLY nuts, there's a third option that in some ways is superior to both DVE and Avia: HQV. You can get it directly from HQV's website for around $25. They also now offer a version for HDDVD and BluRay -- if either of these are the sources you're using, this is the one to look into. As I'm still stuck in SD land for the foreseeable future, I can't vouch for it personally. But the fact that most professional review sites use it for calibration and testing of HD sources should tell you something.
So: brain exploding yet?
Simpler: Absolutely use THX. If you're feeling up to it, either DVE or Avia would be good step-ups (there are more comparisons between the two online, so you can get a better sense of which would suit your needs better; the fact that DVE comes with the color filter, for me, makes it the worthier tool despite its buggy interface). And especially if you're using an HD player of whatever variety, get the HQV without reservation.
Hope this helps!
girdnerg 06-08-07, 12:37 PM That helps immensely. I just may pick up an NC85 this weekend and give it a test run! :D Thanks, thanks, and thanks again.
You are welcome :)
Rob
mackiefan 06-11-07, 09:35 AM Hi,
I'm considering one of these players, but was wondering if you can send HDMI to the display and at the same time run digital audio (via either optical or coax) to a receiver (my Yamaha YSP
-1 does not accept HDMI)
Or to put it another way...are all the outputs hot?
Thanks,
Rob
sivartk 06-11-07, 09:45 AM Yes, I had mine hooked up HDMI to my projector and digital coax to the receiver with no problem. I'm assuming that digital optical out would behave the same way.
dmaul1114 06-11-07, 12:23 PM Hi,
I'm considering one of these players, but was wondering if you can send HDMI to the display and at the same time run digital audio (via either optical or coax) to a receiver (my Yamaha YSP
-1 does not accept HDMI)
Or to put it another way...are all the outputs hot?
Thanks,
Rob
Yep. I have mine with HDMI to the TV and optical cable to the receiver and it works great.
I"m very happy with this player. I bought the Samsung DVD 1080P7 first as it was on sale for $30 less, but it wasn't working right as it wouldn't save any settings changes when you powered off (namely, wouldn't keep the audio on dolby digital and always defaulted back to PCM).
I haven't had a single problem with the Sony, and the picture and sound quality is great.
mackiefan 06-11-07, 01:08 PM Thanks!
That pretty much seals the deal for me.
Appreciate the input
Rob
I picked up my Sony NS75H DVD player today. I had another brand with HDMI and was 50/50 with getting the Sony. I am really glad I did, the old one is going back. There is a remarkable difference between the Sony and the other player! Picture is so much clearer and crisper on regular dvd's. I have a huge DVD collection and was really disappointed with the quality of my first (hdmi) player. I have a Sony LCD KDF-46E2000, and until the hd war is over, I really wanted to have a player that could give my dvds the best possible picture quality. On sale here at BB in Canada for $99.00. VERY happy I made the purchase. My hdmi cable was only $12.00 at monoprice. No complaints there either.
Sonystyle is giving free shipping so a good time to buy this player there (new and refurbed) (or PS3).
powerknowledge 06-25-07, 03:57 PM I picked up my Sony NS75H DVD player today. I had another brand with HDMI and was 50/50 with getting the Sony. I am really glad I did, the old one is going back. There is a remarkable difference between the Sony and the other player! Picture is so much clearer and crisper on regular dvd's. I have a huge DVD collection and was really disappointed with the quality of my first (hdmi) player. I have a Sony LCD KDF-46E2000, and until the hd war is over, I really wanted to have a player that could give my dvds the best possible picture quality. On sale here at BB in Canada for $99.00. VERY happy I made the purchase. My hdmi cable was only $12.00 at monoprice. No complaints there either.
What was the "other brand", if you don't mind me asking?
(ps: Monoprice absolutely rules, don't they? I got a 6' HDMI cable for about $15 with a build quality that blows away the high-end Monster at 6X-8X the price...)
The old one was a KOSS I picked up at CanTire for 80 bucks (hdmi with cord). I know the pq will never be anything close to HD, but the Sony certainly and obviously does a much much nicer job with my standard dvds.
Sonystyle is giving free shipping so a good time to buy this player there (new and refurbed) (or PS3).
Thanks for pointing that Sony was offering free shipping. Bought the refurb model last night and it's now on its way. I can't wait =)
Once I get the player, are there any firmware updates that I need to d/l?
I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.
If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.
At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.
Thanks!
sivartk 06-26-07, 08:05 PM I had a Sony 5 disc (non-upconvert) hooked up through component and then the NH75S through component. I noticed a slight difference (even on my 100" screen). I then hooked up the HD-D2 (think Costco Version of the HD-A2) and noticed a lot bigger difference.
In my opinion, the NH75 is a slight increase over a progressive scan 480p
Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.
sivartk 06-26-07, 10:17 PM Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.
Didn't think of that and you are right, so I pulled out my trusty LG LST-3510A (which will upconvert through component) and it does look quite a bit better than the Sony through component, but not as good as the Toshiba HD-D2 through HDMI...so no really fair way to a comparison.
All I can say is that the Toshiba (HDMI) does a better job at up-converting than the Sony (HDMI). Thus the reason I'm selling the Sony to a co-worker for $50.
He gets a good deal, I get a little cash and the player gets out of the house.
HDMI Guy 06-27-07, 12:48 AM I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.
If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.
At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.
Thanks!
I had two different non upconverting DVD players connected with component to a 62 Toshiba DLP and then connected a Sony NS75 with HDMI to the same display. The Sony NS75 has significantly better picture quality.
Buckeye911 06-27-07, 01:20 AM I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.
If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.
Thanks!
I previously had two different progressive scan dvd players connected via component cables. The NS75H through HDMI to my Panny plasma was clearly an improvement. I now have a Toshiba HD D2 so the 75H has been moved to the bedroom. The upconverting in the D2 is a little better than the 75H IMO. I would encourage you to go ahead with your purchase plans.
Thanks for the advice, guys!
I did look for an HD-D2 at Costco, but was unsuccessful.
I think now that it may make more sense for me to pick up an A2 or D2 and just sell my 360 add-on -- That would give me excellent upscaling, plus Dolby True HD capability when I upgrade to an HDMI receiver. Hmmm... I suppose I probably should've pulled the trigger on that while the instant rebate was being offered.
I'm now considering picking up a DVP-NS75H, especially since the price at CC has dropped to $100, and I wanted to ask, specifically, if any of you NS75 owners previously used a non-upconverting player connected through component video.
If you have, I'd like to know your impressions on the comparison between the two. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the reason folks are so pleased with their of upscaling players is, often, but not always, because they're going from composite to HDMI, not component to HDMI.
At any rate, I'm all-ears on any of your advice about whether I should pick up an NS75 -- I've got a 60" LCD RPTV (the Sony 60XS955) and am currently using the (non-upscaling) Pioneer DV-45A, having resisted the urge to pick-up an HD-A2 since I already have the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on.
Thanks!
badassfajita 06-27-07, 05:24 PM I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?
Thanks
girdnerg 06-27-07, 05:57 PM I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?
Thanks
My NC85 is behind smoked glass and i don't have any problems with it. I have the supplied and 2 additional remotes programed to operate it and all 3 work just fine. I usually sit about 11' from it. Angle is usually dead on, but sometimes I sit 30 degrees or so off center.
Rob
I've read a couple of reviews on pricegrabber about the Sony DVP-NC85HS in that the remote does not work through glass (i.e. in a cabinet). Is there any merit to this? Has anyone had a problem with this?
Thanks
Mine is behind glass and I have no problems with the remote.
klemsaba 06-27-07, 06:35 PM Sony 75H does NOT upconvert through component for copy protected DVDs. Thus, you are likely comparing one 480p to another and that's why it's only "slightly" different.
And I broke the HDMI slot on my S75! :mad:
my4065f 06-29-07, 08:30 PM I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.
samsurd2 06-29-07, 08:37 PM I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.The manual specifically says Yes.
Buckeye911 06-30-07, 12:50 AM I am thinking of buying this player. Does this Sony DVP-NS75H plays VCDs (Video CDs)? I owned Samsung 1087P as it wasn't playing VCDs. I have lot of VCDs and looking for upconverting player that plays VCDs as well.
Yes.
DanGords 06-30-07, 01:44 AM Look, if you're trying to find an easy answer about whether or not this player is a good deal for the money -
I'm a long-time lurker on this board and have gotten tons of useful info from it. I'm watching Braveheart on my first night of owning this player and I'm completely blown away by how sick it looks. I have a Samsung 4264 and don't have any HDTVs or up-converting DVD players to compare it with, but can tell you that the picture is so good that I am chuckling out loud at times, noticing how awesome it looks. I bought this thing for the best hundred bucks I have spent in a long time.
I'm very impressed.
my4065f 06-30-07, 03:44 PM Yes.
Thanks. I am testing this with VCDs and other DVDs that I have. Apparently it plays only region 1 dvds. I tried with dvds other than region 1 and it doesn't play. Is there any hack available on this dvd player for other regions?
Thanks in advance.
CT_Wiebe 07-01-07, 02:04 AM Not that I'm aware of. It has been said many times, in this thread, that this player is Region 1 only (the manual says it too). Since Sony also is a Movie producer, they are very strict about this.
powerknowledge 07-02-07, 03:23 PM Look, if you're trying to find an easy answer about whether or not this player is a good deal for the money -
I'm a long-time lurker on this board and have gotten tons of useful info from it. I'm watching Braveheart on my first night of owning this player and I'm completely blown away by how sick it looks. I have a Samsung 4264 and don't have any HDTVs or up-converting DVD players to compare it with, but can tell you that the picture is so good that I am chuckling out loud at times, noticing how awesome it looks. I bought this thing for the best hundred bucks I have spent in a long time.
I'm very impressed.
Some questions for those still on the fence:
1) What's your display's native resolution, and what type of display is it (that Sammy model number corresponds to a DLP and to a plasma set);
2) Are you connected via HDMI or component?
3) What was your previous player?
4) Before the Sony, did you have your display use its internal upscaling technology (can't remember what Samsung calls this on their displays) or did you simply run the 480i signal in untouched? (The purpose of this question is to see how the Sony's upscaling compares to that offered by your display).
Thanks!
So after testing out the NS75H these are my observations:
My TV is a Pio 5070HD
My receiver is an Onkyo 605
Previous DVD player was a sony NS575P, 480p capabilities
On my setup, the DVD player produced the best image at 720p.
Overall the improvement in picture quality is noticeable, but minimal IMHO. Movies such as Star Wars ep. III, Spiderman 2, or LOTR did look slightly better compared to my old dvd player, but not by much. Colors appeared to have more pop, especially in Star Wars' Corusant space battle at the beginning. Explosions and laser blasts stood out more. However sharpness and detail didn't change much. This could be due to the my Pio TV which have a reputation for having a softer more film-like quality.
Sound is significantly louder on this DVD player. Previous player needed my receiver's sound dial to be set at 70 for a theater like experience, but with this player it's more like 62. Clarity is about the same although I am no audiophile.
Overall, for $65 it is a reasonable upgrade. Picture quality is better although not a whole lot and it is mainly is color saturation. However, sharpness not even close to HD signals. Sound is louder and I don't have to crank up my receiver as much to obtain the same output.
Big Pauly 07-11-07, 01:50 PM sorry if this question has been asked repeatedly....but will the 5 disc dvd changer version of this (the "85") have the same zoom issues as the "75"?
i picked up the 75 knowing that there was a zoom issue with leaving the zoom icon on the display and the sales rep that helped me told me it wouldn't stay on perminantly...which it does
I'm returning it for somethng else....even tho I love the PQ with the "75"...
if i upgrade to the "85" 5 disc changer wll it have that same annoying "zoom" icon...
girdnerg 07-11-07, 02:35 PM The 85 leaves the zoom icon up also. Sorry.
Rob
Big Pauly 07-11-07, 03:48 PM thanks for your response Rob....very appreciated
the 75 is great...can't believe Sony would make a unit with that icon being left on there like that....terrible design flaw
Buckeye911 07-11-07, 04:04 PM thanks for your response Rob....very appreciated
the 75 is great...can't believe Sony would make a unit with that icon being left on there like that....terrible design flaw
Perhaps it is a design flaw but for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to watch a movie in the zoom mode. I can understand zooming in on an area or part of a frame to try to see something but to actually watch a movie in this mode would not be an enjoyable experience for me. For me the icon is a non-issue but do you have a zoom function on your tv that you could use instead?
Big Pauly 07-11-07, 04:09 PM well if your a plasma owner then you understand why you'd wanna zoom when watching a 2.34 (aspect ratio) DVD
I only understood after buying my plasma that the black bars on top/bottom will cause burn-in
Buckeye911 07-11-07, 04:20 PM well if your a plasma owner then you understand why you'd wanna zoom when watching a 2.34 (aspect ratio) DVD
I only understood after buying my plasma that the black bars on top/bottom will cause burn-in
I understand your concern about burn-in however watching a movie with black bars is not going to cause burn-in. I have a Panasonic plasma that has displayed black bars and pillar boxes galore with no problem. You may be right to be concerned during the 100 hour break-in period on your plasma but after that you can feel free to do anything you want with the display without fear of burn-in. Enjoy your display.
Big Pauly 07-11-07, 05:03 PM really?
I've read countless times that the black bars on the display are going to casue burn-in..
I want to believe you..hahaa but I don't have $3000 to throw away on a maybe
I've read conflicting info that it does burn in and maybe it doesn't....I honestly don't know what to believe anymore so I figure it's better to be safe...
if theres any proof you can give me on this I would really appreciate it...
I appreciate your reply BTW...
I'm so paranoid now.....
here's my question then.....
if you say theres no burn in with the black bars.....perhaps I'll hang on to my Sony "75" and not worry about the black bars when viewing 2.34 movies
I just figured I needed to get a dvd player with the zoom feature to avoid the black bars...
you've thrown me for a loop here now......how long have you had your Plasma?....if you've had it for years and still don't have burn-in with the black bars then you've made me a believer
cheers
jwebb1970 07-11-07, 05:08 PM Zoomng an image (for me at least) is only an issue when watching older, non-anamorphic (4:3 letterboxed) DVDs.
I still have a couple of older titles that are this way, although I have replaced most with their newer double-dips for this very reason.
My old copies of M:I, OFFICE SPACE, DAZED & CONFUSED, SCREAM to name a few have ben swapped for their newer anamorphic editions.
The only real holdout for me now are the unaltered SW Trilogy discs, which while having been released last year are the old 4:3 letterbox LD transfers. Usually just leave 'em as the rectangular letterbox form instead of zooming. My old Panny player, OTOH, had several preset as well as manual zoom functions. You could get just about any movie "zoomed" properly and not lose subtitles (it would just reposition them). Still a loss in PQ when zooming, though.
jwebb1970 07-11-07, 05:12 PM really?
I've read countless times that the black bars on the display are going to casue burn-in..
I want to believe you..hahaa but I don't have $3000 to throw away on a maybe
I've read conflicting info that it does burn in and maybe it doesn't....I honestly don't know what to believe anymore so I figure it's better to be safe...
if theres any proof you can give me on this I would really appreciate it...
I appreciate your reply BTW...
I'm so paranoid now.....
here's my question then.....
if you say theres no burn in with the black bars.....perhaps I'll hang on to my Sony "75" and not worry about the black bars when viewing 2.34 movies
I just figured I needed to get a dvd player with the zoom feature to avoid the black bars...
you've thrown me for a loop here now......how long have you had your Plasma?....if you've had it for years and still don't have burn-in with the black bars then you've made me a believer
cheers
Those bars CAN be burned into your plasma or CRT phospors. The trick is to not leave them on screen for HOURS on end and to keep your contrast out of "torch mode". A movie or two every day or so, with contrast kept at reasonable levels should be OK. Just be sure to have plenty of full 16x9 images on screen whenever your set is on and you're not watching anything specific with black bars anywhere.
My 1st HD set was a Hitachi 43UWX10B CRT RPTV. After about 5+ yrs of use, I noticed burn-in from black 4:3 sidebars generated by my HD cable box when tuning into SD channels. This was also in conjunction with it's Perfect Picture setting set to ON for the majority of it's life (the function used a light sensor to auto-adjust picture levels based on ambient lighting. It also locked Contrast btwn 70-100 at all times. Adjusting Contrast in the user menu was impossible with this on). Those black bars did burn into the phospors, but far from overnight.
Have read/heard that for both plasma and CRT, it's a good idea to keep any static burn-in-able images on screen as little as possible during the 1st 100 hrs or so. After that, you can be a little less cautious.
Maybe just try an avoid 10-12 hr movie marathons of 2.35:1 or greater ratio movies...and keep the contrast down.
Big Pauly 07-11-07, 05:22 PM thanks for your advice/response....
I just don't know if I can risk 3k on a maybe...
I'd rather not take the chance...
I'm under no illusions that I will eventually have to get another TV...this thing won't last forever....but I need to do the things nessasary to keep it going as long as possible..
I only use it for movies....no video games...no cable tv
I'm just too paranoid now...hahaa
the kick in the pants is I can only exchange the player for the other options in the store....and everything else they have isn't as good as the "75"...
my other options in the store is the Samsung DVD1080p or the Panasonic S53K
I really don't want to switch playeers...the "75" is jsut awesome in terms of PQ....
any idea if the Panasonic player is decent?
thanks again for the reply
jaynkim 07-11-07, 05:54 PM Hello I am thinking about picking this Sony player up this week. My Tv is a Hitachi 57" CRT with a DVI input not HDMI. My Reciever is AN Onkyo HT-R520. Currently I am using my xbox 360 as a DVD player. Anyone have any idea if this would be a better quality picture. I would hook it up through DVI with an HDMI adapter. Unfortunately this means my Dtv HD box would have to go back to Component cables but I honestly dont see much difference between the two. Any help would be appreciated thanks.
jwebb1970 07-11-07, 06:32 PM thanks for your advice/response....
I just don't know if I can risk 3k on a maybe...
I'd rather not take the chance...
I'm under no illusions that I will eventually have to get another TV...this thing won't last forever....but I need to do the things nessasary to keep it going as long as possible..
I only use it for movies....no video games...no cable tv
I'm just too paranoid now...hahaa
the kick in the pants is I can only exchange the player for the other options in the store....and everything else they have isn't as good as the "75"...
my other options in the store is the Samsung DVD1080p or the Panasonic S53K
I really don't want to switch playeers...the "75" is jsut awesome in terms of PQ....
any idea if the Panasonic player is decent?
thanks again for the reply
Could check the threads here. I know the Panny has one dedicated to it. The real judge, however, are your own 2 eyes.
Haven't played with the Panny in question, but the others I have used over the last couple of years had similar zoom options to the ones I mentioned. See if the retailer will hook one up for you, if only to play w/ the zoom bits.
Still don't think you need to worry about the 2.35:1 black bars, though. Keep the contrast low and watch some 1.85:1 movies as well....you should be fine.
Burn in, from what I've seen/heard, is more an issue with static stuff like news channel tickers, video games HUD's, and the more commonly seen 4:3 sidebars. Doesn't mean the horizontal ones aren't...they are just less likely to be static day after day like the other images can be and ofter are with typical TV watching--movies or otherwise.
Even if you watch only movies on your set, it's doubtful that every movie you will watch is going to be in the same aspect ratio. Hell, any movie pre-1953 or so is going to be in 4:3 ratio. There were no "widescreen" movies until after the dawn of the TV age.
Besides, even the best player or TV will degrade the PQ when zooming.
Buckeye911 07-11-07, 06:51 PM you've thrown me for a loop here now......how long have you had your Plasma?....if you've had it for years and still don't have burn-in with the black bars then you've made me a believer
cheers
I've had my Panasonic plasma for 13 months now and except for the first hundred hours I have just taken things as they come. I watch plenty of movies with black bars on top and bottom. I watch SD programming with black pillars on the sides. I've had no problem with burn-in or image retention. In theory burn-in is possible but the chances of it occurring are very remote. The odds of getting burn-in on a plasma display are no greater than getting them on a regular tube tv. Here are some links with information.
Look at myth 6: http://pcworld.about.com/od/consumeradvice/15-Tech-Myths-Busted-and-Conf.htm
http://www.hedmag.com/The-Latest-The-Best/Flat-Panel-TV-Special-Erasing-Plasma-Myths-2.asp
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vFAQ?page=PlasmaFAQ&storeId=15001&catGroupId=24973&catalogId=13401#tv5
LoserBeater 07-12-07, 06:09 AM Does anybody here have any info on the new line of Sonys'. Other than a slight cosmetic change and 1080p, what's the difference. Hopefully no ZOOM icon left on for all eternity :D
WaldorfSalad 07-12-07, 11:38 AM Does anybody here have any info on the new line of Sonys'. Other than a slight cosmetic change and 1080p, what's the difference. Hopefully no ZOOM icon left on for all eternity :DOnly a few threads away...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=872367
Big Pauly 07-12-07, 12:55 PM I've had my Panasonic plasma for 13 months now and except for the first hundred hours I have just taken things as they come. I watch plenty of movies with black bars on top and bottom. I watch SD programming with black pillars on the sides. I've had no problem with burn-in or image retention. In theory burn-in is possible but the chances of it occurring are very remote. The odds of getting burn-in on a plasma display are no greater than getting them on a regular tube tv. Here are some links with information.
Look at myth 6: http://pcworld.about.com/od/consumeradvice/15-Tech-Myths-Busted-and-Conf.htm
http://www.hedmag.com/The-Latest-The-Best/Flat-Panel-TV-Special-Erasing-Plasma-Myths-2.asp
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vFAQ?page=PlasmaFAQ&storeId=15001&catGroupId=24973&catalogId=13401#tv5
thanks alot for the links........I guess I can relax a little :o
still going to be overly cautious tho..lol
mackiefan 07-14-07, 11:39 AM I have a Panny 75U with a Sony NS75H hooked up to it via hdmi. If I want to get rid of the black bars on dvd, the "zoom" function on the plasma works fine. Oddly enough, this was not the case for my Panny HDD dvd recorder. The zoom function of the tv made the image look "squished". Everybody looked too tall and thin! That's why I picked up the Sony.
harryhood 08-16-07, 03:34 PM Thinking about picking one of these up. Do I need surround sound or a receiver to output audio. Waiting till christmas to get a surround sound system and I would be running this player directly to my panny plasma and using the stock speakers on the 75U for DVD audio. Does this player still work for me?
Thinking about picking one of these up. Do I need surround sound or a receiver to output audio. Waiting till christmas to get a surround sound system and I would be running this player directly to my panny plasma and using the stock speakers on the 75U for DVD audio. Does this player still work for me?
Yes
HailTheHD 08-18-07, 09:36 PM I just purchased the HD DVD version of Digital Video Essentials or DVE (it contains both regular and HD DVD version) for my Sony DVP-NS75H connected straight to my Sony KDL-52XBR2 1080p Flat screen LCD TV through a 4 meter Monster HDMI300 cable. What do the main settings get set to? Like are you supposed to use standard, or cinema 1 or 2, the sharpness and noise reducing settings etc? And is the quick setup good enough, or do I got to set something special in the custom one? So basically what does everything get set to?
Thanks.
jaquila 09-01-07, 09:43 PM So, I bought this dvd player over a year ago (mid august '06).
well, all of a sudden the dvd player is having a hard time loading movies. sometimes it will load them no problem, sometimes it will take a long time, and sometimes i will have to turn the unit on and off/ ejecting and the disc back and forth to get it to finally load.
whats the deal?
i bought one of those dvd lense cleaner things at wallymart - doesn't seem to help.
Am i s.o.l.? do you think Sony will extend my warranty a couple weeks if I call them this Tues after labor day?
ty in advance.
Grimdeath 09-01-07, 10:13 PM Am i s.o.l.? do you think Sony will extend my warranty a couple weeks if I call them this Tues after labor day?
Honestly I think you are out of luck; I've never heard of Sony doing anything out of warranty, even with DVD players they've sold that have had horrendous known problems with the optics.
junkyak 09-03-07, 07:13 PM So I hook this up via HDMI cable to my Sony KV-34HS420 CRT HDTV and the resolution was worse than my regular progressive scan Sony DVP-NS775V hooked up via component cables.
Anyone have an idea what the problem is? Do I need to adjust the settings somehow?
Ive tried changing the resolution from the auto to 1080i and 720p and didnt notice any improvement.
Maybe this only works on LCD/Plasmas?
I didnt expect to see a huge difference, but definitly did not expect to see noticably worse resolution.
sivartk 09-03-07, 08:03 PM So I hook this up via HDMI cable to my Sony KV-34HS420 CRT HDTV and the resolution was worse than my regular progressive scan Sony DVP-NS775V hooked up via component cables.
It sounds like the scaler in the TV is better than the one in the DVD player. I wouldn't find this highly unusual since the scaling function on this player is average. If you know someone that has an OPPO that you could borrow, it would be a good test.
Otherwise, return the player and stick with the progressive scan Sony you were using before. Better picture (to your eyes...where it counts) and you save some money in the process.
To get a true improvement in picture, you need to go HD DVD or Blu-ray Disc
HailTheHD 09-11-07, 10:23 PM What do I use? Cinema 1, Cinema 2 or standard? Help, Please? Thanks.
Melanotheron 09-11-07, 10:55 PM What do I use? Cinema 1, Cinema 2 or standard? Help, Please? Thanks.
Most people are using Cinema 1, I believe. But, of course, it depends on what you think looks best.
Grayson73 09-27-07, 09:37 PM I'm using Cinema 1. I played with the sharpness setting and it looked better at sharpness 1. At sharpness 0 (off?), the picture was "soft".
For those who have calibrated, can you post your settings?
subwoofer 11-01-07, 12:00 PM I am thinking about selling this dvd player because I want to upgrade. Any buyers? any places to sell something like this for a good price?
Buckeye911 11-01-07, 07:34 PM I am thinking about selling this dvd player because I want to upgrade. Any buyers? any places to sell something like this for a good price?
Are you planning on hopping on that $98.87 deal at Walmart tomorrow for the Toshiba HD A2? The sale starts at 8AM.
sivartk 11-01-07, 09:02 PM Are you planning on hopping on that $98.87 deal at Walmart tomorrow for the Toshiba HD A2? The sale starts at 8AM.
I sold my Sony after I bought the HD-A2 and saw how much of a better job it does at upconverting...especially with my 100" screen.
I sold my Sony after I bought the HD-A2 and saw how much of a better job it does at upconverting...especially with my 100" screen.
I still have my Sony but no longer use it. I have the A20, and I was actually surprised at how much better it was at upconverting. However, having said that, I am hooked on HD now and only occasionally watch standard dvds. Even upconverted they are simply not equal to HD.
subwoofer 11-01-07, 11:20 PM I sold my Sony after I bought the HD-A2 and saw how much of a better job it does at upconverting...especially with my 100" screen.
where did you sell it at?
sivartk 11-01-07, 11:54 PM where did you sell it at?
I sold it to a guy at work for $50. He had just bought a 50" plasma, so the timing was right.
Just to be clear for others who may want this machine as a music player as well as a dvd player, you are saying that this player will play 5 dvds in order and will repeat 1 dvd disc, but will it...
1. ...random play 5 music cd's?
2. ...play 5 music cds in a row?
What I read is that it won't do #1 above.
Anyone know what the answers are to these questions?
Thanks.
girdnerg 01-02-08, 12:36 PM 1. no, it will not random play between the discs. It will on the currently loaded disc
2. yes, it will automatically move to the next disc and continue
MysteryGoat 09-28-08, 11:40 PM Does anyone have a comparison between this and the pioneer DV-410V-K? With black friday around the corner, I'm contemplating a new dvd player and right now I don't want blu-ray. However, I am looking to get the best picture and audio possible on standard dvd's. I was also looking at Toshiba's XDE, but I'm not sure if there's really a dvd player out there that can give me much more than I already have.
Nick4597 10-04-08, 11:00 PM Does anyone have a comparison between this and the pioneer DV-410V-K? With black friday around the corner, I'm contemplating a new dvd player and right now I don't want blu-ray. However, I am looking to get the best picture and audio possible on standard dvd's. I was also looking at Toshiba's XDE, but I'm not sure if there's really a dvd player out there that can give me much more than I already have.
I am looking for a comparison of the same. My DVP-NS75H seems to really do a great job at upconverting, especially with some of the various contrast and picture settings turned on. I have been contemplating moving this DVD player to the bedroom and trying out the XDE500. Not sure if it's really worth it though, this is still a great player IMO.
aerosnow88 01-13-09, 03:49 PM Sorry for digging up a old thread. The HDMI light is blinking and I am not getting signal from my sony 85H to the sony LCD.
What does the blinking blue light mean?
Thanks.
FORIAMBILL 04-01-09, 10:29 PM I can't figure out how to make my dvd player output 1080i via component. TV says it's getting 480p. I bought this about two years ago and remember it being a pita to get 1080i via HDMI. now my hdmi doesn't work. I think I damaged the port, or maybe something internal when moving components. Before I send it in to be worked on, I wanted to know if I can get the same quality with component and optical. Can somebody help me with the settings.
It is currently connected directly to a Sony XBR1 via component. I want to hook it back to my Yamaha V661. (it's to the tv now to isolate the avr for troubleshooting)
WaldorfSalad 04-01-09, 11:41 PM I can't figure out how to make my dvd player output 1080i via component. TV says it's getting 480p. I bought this about two years ago and remember it being a pita to get 1080i via HDMI. now my hdmi doesn't work. I think I damaged the port, or maybe something internal when moving components. Before I send it in to be worked on, I wanted to know if I can get the same quality with component and optical. Can somebody help me with the settings.
It is currently connected directly to a Sony XBR1 via component. I want to hook it back to my Yamaha V661. (it's to the tv now to isolate the avr for troubleshooting)Again, upconverting via component is not supported, only through HDMI. So, the most you'll get via component is 480p.
Buckeye911 04-02-09, 02:04 AM Again, upconverting via component is not supported, only through HDMI. So, the most you'll get via component is 480p.
True unless the DVD has no DRM attached. The powers that be will not allow upconverting via component inputs. If there is no DRM then you can upconvert, otherwise it's 480p.
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