I just recieved my 2nd PC-Ultra. Located on each side of my projection screen about a couple feet back of mains. Have not tweeked yet but I sense a fullness to the bass in the room already.

I have an SVS 20-39 pc-plus and a B&W ASW-650. The b&w is in the front right corner of my theater and the svs is on the left wall about 4.5 feet from the front corner.

I haven't taken any measurements yet but am very pleased with the sound. The B&W plays really loud down to around (I'm guessing) 30 hz and the SVS provides the tactile impact at the sub 30hz frequencies.

I think I would worry about the construction of my room with 2 ultras.

Cool, you got it! What do you have them tuned to?

Dual Velodyne DD-15s, at the 40% mark down each side wall.

2 pb10's and setup up the same way as you. I had them across from each other and it sounded like crap

Currently have 2 PB-12 Ultra's one in each front corner of my living room, soon to have 2 PCU's instead. Absolutely love it, and absolutely love hearing my wife complain because it frightens her! :eek:

A PB+12/2 and a sealed Tumult next to each other, right front corner EQ-ed by a BFD.

An SVS 20-39 PCi in the left corner and an SVS 20-39 PC+ in the right corner.

Dual PB10's running about half on the gains and staggered across from on another. One on the left of the HT and the other on the right next to the main seat.

Velo CHT12 behind the right main, and 2 Energy ESUB2's, 1 in each rear corner of the room, running full range. (small little guys don't go very low, but a nice extension for the LSi9 mains)

Cool, you got it! What do you have them tuned to?

20 Hz native tune for now. I will experiment with 16Hz.

I have twin glossy black Plus/2s in each front corner.

Do I need two? No.

Do I want two? Oh yeah.

I read somewhere that the optimal locations for dual subs is on opposite corners of the room.

2 Mirage S10's next to each other up front.

Long time ago.....Replaced those things with 2 SVS PB12/2's. The 10's are thumping outside in the garage with the cars.

An SVS 16-46 PC+ in the right front corner; an "antique" M&K 15" passive in the rear left. (These are actually directly in front and back of my seating area, which is on a diagonal).

Experts would generally advise against this, but it works for me.

The arrangement flattens out my room response significantly. Not perfect, but measured +/- 4dB from 16Hz to 100Hz, meter compensated. (It sounds smoother, as the highest adjusted readings are below 25Hz, where ear sensitivity drops off. Measurement peaked at 18 Hz.)

No EQ on the SVS, but I use an ART 351 equalizer on the M&K, which is driven by a 200 watt AudioSource amp. I measured 108 dB SPL at my seating area on WotW, at -10 on the receiver. Room is 2200 cu. ft. including adjoining kitchen.

dual S12's, colocated in back right corner behind sofa (gives a nice massage)

I have twin glossy black Plus/2s in each front corner.

Do I need two? No.

Do I want two? Oh yeah.

I hear ya :D
I also have an ATI amp (3003). How's it workin with those Ushers'?

I read somewhere that the optimal locations for dual subs is on opposite corners of the room.

That will vary room by room.

2 servo 15's, stacked, placed 7 feet from listing position on left hand side facing backwards towards wall , not where they should be but the room sucks poo. Still sounds great though. In my old house the subs were on either side of the coutch and they sounded fantastic. In my new house they sounded sooooooooo bad it was crazy they basically cancelled them selves out, then I stacked them and bingo was thy name and his game was house crumbling bass!!!!! Ahhh the look on people faces when glasses shake off the coffee table is priceless!!

3 subs:
Two JBL S120's placed up front under my JBL S38s. They are set up to be the bottom to make the front L and R speakers be full range.
I have an ACI Titan II in the left rear of the room to handle the LFE sub duties.
The sound is smoother and cleaner and more effortless now with three 12 inch sub woofers in the room.
Of course (SHE) and the (BRATS) all think I am crazy.

Former: dual stacked Paradigm PW-2200 v.1's front right corner.

Current: 1 SVS PB12Ultra/2 left rear corner.

Absent 3 months, and noticed/cared. :(

Dual SVS PB12-Plus/2's symmetrically located in each front corner just behind the mains and at the bottom corners of the screen... tuned to 16hz in a fully sealed 1800 cubic foot HT room.

I have dual HSU VTF-3HO with Turbo. They're either in China or on a boat somewhere in the Pacific Ocean.

So far I'm not satisfied with the output. I can't hear them at all. ;)

Two JBL B212 12" subs connected to the main L/R speakers; plus two JBL/Revel 15" subs, connected to the subout.
The 12" subs are right next to their L/R mates and the 15" subs are at the mid-points of the side walls.

Currently my subs are on the left and right of my screen just slightly behind the L+R mains. They are 2 double 18" Bag End boxes running in stereo via the ELF-1 processor. The bass is very even and capable of structural damage if I'm not careful. I am running them right down to 8Hz.

I have two recently purchased TN1220's placed opposite from each other along the side walls 80" from the screen wall and 62" from the first row of seating in my HT. I first tried placing them both in the corner to the left of my screen, but there was a big dip at my seating location, and the bass was lacking in some areas. So I moved one to the opposite corner, which helped the dip and the sound, but I felt the placement was still hurting the bass so I moved them just past the first columns on the side walls, and the bass noticably tighetened up and now sounds great. Now all I have to do is learn how to use RoomEQWizard and check my room to see if I need a BFD.

I have four SVS PB 12 Plus 2's arranged in a row symmetrically across the front of the room behind the screen.

Art

I have four SVS PB 12 Plus 2's arranged in a row symmetrically across the front of the room behind the screen.

Art
Did you have to do anything to deal with phase issues between the subs?
And are they all driven from the same LFE channel?

I just bought an SVS myself and considering using it in conjunction with my other sub (Veloydne 18"). Not sure best way to set-it up.

--curtis

Dual JL Audio F113 Fathoms. Next to the R&L mains

Two PB Ultras stacked in each front corner. Not optimal, but midwall placement not possible in my room

Dual CSW p1000's. one located by each of the B&W mains.

Currently my subs are on the left and right of my screen just slightly behind the L+R mains. They are 2 double 18" Bag End boxes running in stereo via the ELF-1 processor. The bass is very even and capable of structural damage if I'm not careful. I am running them right down to 8Hz.

That is insane! What is the wife approval factor on that?

Two Velodyne MiniVee's in front of Elac mains. They may not go down to 8Hz, but my NYC apartment definitely rocks, movies or music! :cool: :D

Dual PCUs, one in each front corner behind my mains. I am now saving for a third to go behind my Lazy-Boys, just to use the last output from the Velo SMS!!
Need?? NO!
Want?? YES!!

Dual SVS PB12 +/2s. One in each front corner. (these may be looking for a new home due to a new room layout. PM if interested)

-Eli

2 M&K MX350's, one in each front corner of the room under the left and right speaker.

I have an M&K MX-350 up front off center, but I don't have a corner for it. I also have a Velodyne CT-120 in the back rear but not hooked up. I could never get them in phase and sounding good. Hopefully my SMS-1 that is on order will help me tune these up.

Is it okay to run a sealed sub and a ported sub in the same room?

How could the OP ever figure out where to put his woofers based on these responses. They are all over the map. But I guess that's what this hobby is all about...
I have 2 Linn 5150's. The front is along the left wall about 5 or 6 feet into the room. The rear woofer is 5 or 6 feet in from the right rear wall. Very flat and well defined bass.
If I want more (read excessive) boom I simply move the rear woofer into the rear corner and viola, movies have more impact. But that's not how I want to listen to music so most of the time the rear is out of the corner.
BTW, bass traps and other acoustical treatments will really help too.
BP

Just one PB12-Ultra/2 but seriously thinking about another. Too much? Maybe so,
but I am a believer that in order to get really flat response, you need at least 2
subs. Am looking at each 1/3 down the right and left walls. Room is treated with
GIK acoustics and I run an SMS-1.

PB-12 Ultra on one side, DIY AV15 on the other..........soon to be replaced by the twin towers

http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/36/37/9/60/55/2325960550037002257LjWrGz_th.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2325960550037002257LjWrGz)http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/30/30/7/52/41/2007752410037002257ZHxbtV_th.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2007752410037002257ZHxbtV)

Dual HSU VTF-3 MKII's in between left and right front speakers soon to be VTF HO's.

Ridicubass 1 on the left and Ridicubass 2 on the right. They are DIY sealed sonotube subs.

http://www.ridicubass.com/pics/rb2/rb2.jpg

nicely done Darren....and is that an SP1000 you got there? :)

but dude, seriously, talk to Santa, tell him you were a good boy this year, and have him buy you a big flat screen tv!! :p ........ It's like you are driving a Corvette on Donut wheels! Subs look outstanding though!

and is that an SP1000 you got there? :)

No, it is just an Onkyo 6 disk cd changer. It has since been replaced by the slimdevices Squeezebox 3 you can see on the shelf above it. My two year old could not resist the buttons on the front of the thing so I had to stop using it before she ruined all my CDs. (Anybody need a less than a year old Onkyo 6 disk player? :o )

but dude, seriously, talk to Santa, tell him you were a good boy this year, and have him buy you a big flat screen tv!! :p ........ It's like you are driving a Corvette on Donut wheels! Subs look outstanding though!

Everybody says the same thing and most people are completely dumbfounded that I have the audio system that I do and a 27" TV. :) I am an "audio first" person. The TV is the next thing on the list. At least it is a good 27" TV. That's got to count for something.

Everybody says the same thing and most people are completely dumbfounded that I have the audio system that I do and a 27" TV. :) I am an "audio first" person. The TV is the next thing on the list. At least it is a good 27" TV. That's got to count for something.
you can say that again!!! I'm beyond dumbfounded! a Nice flat panel, a decent upscaling source (Oppo971 or go big bucks with denon 3930) and you are set!! Yes, you got the "sound" portion covered, but nothing like watching Football in HighDef or watching your DVDs in 1080i/p with full 5.1 surround :)

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Front corner loaded, colocated LAB 12 bass horns, shown below during install.

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/files/labs.jpg

I'm curious what people think is the cutoff for room size for going to 2 subs? I have a 1600 cubic foot (20x11x7) dedicated basement theater room and am debating between 1 or 2 PC ultras or just 1 Fathom F112. not sure I could fit a F113 or PB+/2.

I have two F113s in about 3000 cu.ft. and it's probably a bit of an overkill, but sounds real good to say the least!

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Aye.

Darren, for goodness sake, look at the clearance DLPs from Vanns or search around on Pricegrabber. I don't care if you have to eat mac & cheese three meals a day for a year, you need to see what you're hearing with those subs!

yeah Darren....and for Christ sakes, get rid of those hideous curtains!! hahahaha :p :D

Or check the Black Friday ads. There will be name brand 42" HD plasmas for under $1600; even some 50" plasmas in that range. Other HD sets will be under $1000.

Certainly those subs deserve it! ;)

JBL Array 1500 on left side corner - JBL HB5000 or right corner .... one for movies .. one for music.

dual DIY sonotubes rL-p15, 265L - opposite sides of midwall. Freq response is very flat compared to corner loaded which had more dips & peaks

I dont think that any room is too small for dual subs. It just evens out the bass better. My quest now is to find the right subs to use in my new set-up. I want something very clean that plays ultra deep. Suggestions?

1 SVS Ultra, 2 UFW10's and all are in the left front corner. The right front corner is the doorway in. The SVS is about 10 " from the side wall with the UFW's stacked right next to it to pick up the mids and let the SVS strictly do the bottom feeding. I also have the Butt Shakers as well. So far it does a great job but I may be looking just for something to do next year...

I have twin PB12-Ultra/2's placed at 1/3's along the front wall. My room is 1950 cubit feet. I have tried several locations and found in my room this one produced the smoothest response. I also have the room treated with bass traps and also use a Rane EQ. In my setup these puppies don't break a sweat even during the most demanding bass scenes.

Some people are set in stone planners, but, I like to build a little flexibility into my designs. Before I come up with a way to hide my gear, I try different locations in the room. The thing about sub placement is they should sound and feel good, as with the rest of the speakers in the room. Close your eyes and listen; if you can pinpoint the location of the speaker, especially subs (since bass is omnipresent) move them until they become somewhat transparent. Also, meter your speakers.

In my old 5.1 setup I used one Velodyne, below the front right speaker. Too small for my new space.

My plan is to place a single sub near the left rear corner in my new 7.1 theater (under construction). I'm going with B&W 801's L/R and I'll use one B&W ASW 875.
I can always add on.

Twin JL Audio F113. I have them set in the front corners behind front speakers.
Room is between 3800 - 4000 cubes. Raised wooden floor. When these play the whole house sounds and "feels" like its coming down on you.

Kotches, usher, nethomas, 4dhd, sonnie, n8dogg, etc and of course ART--crazy good bass. I would love to hear all of them. I am currently working on expanding my "bass system." I currently have a pb12+/2 in the only place it will fit in my room--in the right rear corner, and I will be adding 2 pb12+'s to the front sound stage in between the center and the mains. My single pb12+/2 can reach about 120db's now, I figure I can get over 125 when it is all said and done--fun, fun, fun.

Brian, welcome back. Life must be keeping you busy. Have you been catching up on all the fun?

Adding more PB12s, I thought you were going over to the dark side to try DIY.

Well, good to see some sanity return.

Well this is how it is for the meantime, thou I would prefer to have second JBL 4645 but has you can see space is limited at the front and I don’t really need another JBL 4645, so what I do is use a second sub bass for the screen and surround channels sub bass extension where it blends in nicely with kick depth slam, and for extra the LFE.1 that is played exclusively via the JBL 4645 18” THX approved professional cinema sub, and this can go mighty loud, LOUD! And very deep depending on the mix!

http://www.audioheritage.org/photopost/data//500/IMAG00031.JPG

The little 12” Eltax R 12-A seems suited for the task of reproducing the left centre right and surrounds, arr, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve, this little audio mixer has been a real benefit over the past few years and if I was slightly dissatisfied with the amount of the low end on the Eltax then all I have to do is adjust the pan pots on the mixer and send the individual channels to the JBL 4645 THX sub bass!

http://www.audioheritage.org/photopost/data//500/JBL_4645_Eltax_sub_bass_array_4.JPG

I will be getting dual HSU HO subs at the end of the month and I am wondering if any of you that have dual subs can tell me how you went about calibrating them into your system? I thought there was a thread that talked about how to set up dual subs but I can't find it.

Thank you in advance

I currently have 1 velo dd10 and it sounds great with music, anyone have 2 dd10s or a dd10 and another sub, how does it sound? I will be getting another sub, just not sure if i want to throw a dd12 or a dd15, or heck even a JL audio fathom 12, any thoughts?

currently have 1 x-sub and will adding another one of these little beasts in the next couple weeks when av123 gets them in. i have the first up front behind my right main and the new one will go in the same spot by my left main. i have a relatively smallish room 20L x 13W.

I have 4 subs in my HT: one Velodyne FSR18 (front right), an SVS PC-Ultra (front left), and two Triad bronze in-walls (on the sides). I also have the Velodyne SMS-1 to help with room EQ.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4353/htfrontiv7.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1738/ht2039pcihn5.jpg

Two Hsu's in front and an SVS 20-39Pci in the center of back of the room (2400cu. ft. room)

Had two SVS PB10-NSDs stacked in front right corner.

I have dual ACI Maestro's with a pair of ACI Panorama's! One one each side of my new Samsung HL-S4676S DPL TV. I have a Panorama sitting on top of a Maestro with a 6" beautifully black painted 1/4 inch thick 6 x 6 steel I-beam between them raising the Panorama about 6" off the Maestro.
It sounds fantastic. If you like a subwoofer then dual subs is a must. A single sub just don't cut it. With stereo sub's, you really get that wall of full sound. It is the only way to go! :)

Dual Avalanche 18" DIY large EBS subs, tuned to 12.4hz:

the twins:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1306/ava18drivers1and2wh9.jpg

in their underwear:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3652/almostdone009zm4.jpg

at the party, fully dressed:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/DIY%20Ava18%20subs/ava18subs001.jpg

singing their favorite tune:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/AVA18%20measurements/1steq_try.jpg

:eek: WOW

http://www.kalman.org/chris/Images/Zoo%200452.jpg


Infinity Kappa 7.1II
Dual Titanic MKIII 10"
Carver C-1000

Does anyone have any advice on how to calibrate dual subs?

Does anyone have any advice on how to calibrate dual subs?
I use this method...seperate channel per sub (own bass management per), into DEQ2496 for EQing, then out to K2 amp.

if you have a single sub output, you could do a similar thing by calibrating both subs together as a single sub:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/DIY%20Ava18%20subs/testies2.jpg

^^^ I don't have all the equipment you do and I only have a single sub out of my receiver so if you could help me with what I have that would be appreciated.

I have/will have a Denon 987, BFD 1124P and dual HSU HO's

I have/will have a Denon 987, BFD 1124P and dual HSU HO's
that's all you need. ;)

use the sub output of the 987 to the BFD, and then onto the HO's. However, you will need to measure your in-room response to see what your FR looks, and then EQ the FR via the BFD. So at some point you are gonna need a laptop with a good external soundcard, a mic or ratshack SPL, and REW or TrueRTA software, and take some measurements. Once done, you can play with the EQ settings on the BFD, and set your XO and bass management on the 987 (not on the HO).

that's all you need. ;)

use the sub output of the 987 to the BFD, and then onto the HO's. However, you will need to measure your in-room response to see what your FR looks, and then EQ the FR via the BFD. So at some point you are gonna need a laptop with a good external soundcard, a mic or ratshack SPL, and REW or TrueRTA software, and take some measurements. Once done, you can play with the EQ settings on the BFD, and set your XO and bass management on the 987 (not on the HO).

That is exactly what I was planning to do, I just thought there may be more to it then that. I already have REW and an external sound card for my laptop so I guess I am all set to go once my subs come.

Thanks :D

For distance, should I use the average distance between the 2 subs?
I assume after setting it all up and calibrating them both that I need to listen to some movies and make sure that one doesn't stand out more than the other and if so adjust the subs volume accordingly?

That is exactly what I was planning to do, I just thought there may be more to it then that. I already have REW and an external sound card for my laptop so I guess I am all set to go once my subs come.

Thanks :D

For distance, should I use the average distance between the 2 subs?
I assume after setting it all up and calibrating them both that I need to listen to some movies and make sure that one doesn't stand out more than the other and if so adjust the subs volume accordingly?
the gain of each sub you should do separately....with your SPL meter. Make sure they both have equal SPL readings at seating position, and that the combination is at the level you want when you enter your bass management info on the 987. Distance should be per subwoofer if you have them equidistant at opposite sides of seating position...you will need to play with the phase on the HO to get the proper.

So ssabripo, do you have to velcro down the 3 candles, picture frame and the flower??

nice set up!

So ssabripo, do you have to velcro down the 3 candles, picture frame and the flower??

nice set up!
velcro??! try Epoxy! :p

the gain of each sub you should do separately....with your SPL meter. Make sure they both have equal SPL readings at seating position, and that the combination is at the level you want when you enter your bass management info on the 987. Distance should be per subwoofer if you have them equidistant at opposite sides of seating position...you will need to play with the phase on the HO to get the proper.


How do I set the gain of each sub separately? I was planning to set them both initially at the same level with their gain knob, then with my spl meter adjust to 75 db with both of them playing through the receiver. After that is set fine tune each to make sure they can't be localized using a movie.

How do I set the gain of each sub separately? I was planning to set them both initially at the same level with their gain knob, then with my spl meter adjust to 75 db with both of them playing through the receiver. After that is set fine tune each to make sure they can't be localized using a movie.
correct.

Thanks ssabripo :D

Dual Avalanche 18" DIY large EBS subs, tuned to 12.4hz:

the twins:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1306/ava18drivers1and2wh9.jpg

in their underwear:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3652/almostdone009zm4.jpg

at the party, fully dressed:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/DIY%20Ava18%20subs/ava18subs001.jpg

singing their favorite tune:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/AVA18%20measurements/1steq_try.jpg


That lay out is weird. How did you arrive with the second sub like that, next to the sofa?

That lay out is weird. How did you arrive with the second sub like that, next to the sofa?
two reasons: better response and aesthetics (I didn't want to block the window into that room by putting the 2nd sub to the right of the display)

ssabripo,
Have you ever hooked up the k2 to the B&W's and vice versa, the cinenova to the subs? How tall are those things? Also, that center has to be huge, makes the cinenova look like a dvd player. Nice. I am still trying to get pics of my theater and post them as well.

two reasons: better response and aesthetics (I didn't want to block the window into that room by putting the 2nd sub to the right of the display)

Yeah, your room's right side isn't visible. I'm guessing since those are pretty big mains and surrounds that you run the subs LP-ed quiet low to avoid localization?
Nice set up though, I used had a double Shiva sonosub almost as big as those years ago.

ssabripo,
Have you ever hooked up the k2 to the B&W's and vice versa, the cinenova to the subs? How tall are those things? Also, that center has to be huge, makes the cinenova look like a dvd player. Nice. I am still trying to get pics of my theater and post them as well.
Nope, and dont plan to. Chasw98 already tried the cinenova's on his subs (IB), and as I predicted, it clipped like crazy. Most Pro amps have a much higher power rating and better handling of transients, than your regular Class D, A amps for home use. I'm sure the K2 would do a very good job on the mains, but the cinenova wont be able to handle the load on the subs on healthy levels. However, the Cinenova is just pure clean goodness ;)

Yeah, your room's right side isn't visible. I'm guessing since those are pretty big mains and surrounds that you run the subs LP-ed quiet low to avoid localization?
No localization problems whatsoever...these guys are invisible, acoustically speaking of course :p

here is the right side, where the windows are, so no, they cant block that window:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/DIY%20Ava18%20subs/ava18subs004.jpg

Are those 8 ft tall? I love them. I thought with the cinenova putting out 1000 watts per channel at 2 ohms it could drive those. Do you have a 20-30 amp circuit? I have two 18 inch horn subs now running off a sampson s2000. I tried the sampson with my mains and liked the results so I was just curious. I am not changing amps but man some of these pro amps get bad raps.

Are those 8 ft tall? I love them. I thought with the cinenova putting out 1000 watts per channel at 2 ohms it could drive those. Do you have a 20-30 amp circuit? I have two 18 inch horn subs now running off a sampson s2000. I tried the sampson with my mains and liked the results so I was just curious. I am not changing amps but man some of these pro amps get bad raps.
exactly...that's exactly what it is: a bar rap...and generally speaking, totally unfounded except for your few elitist pricks that prounce around showing why their $20,000 worth of cables made such an impact in their systems :rolleyes:

Pro amps are excellent in most applications, but particularly in subwoofer applications were THD% and S/N ratios are not critical....and they offer MUCH MUCH better bang for buck in terms of power.

ps- the towers are about 7ft and couple of inches tall.

SVS 16-46 in the front right corner and ...............

I keep switching between an M&K MX125Mk II and a Velodyne 1012x about 5 feet from the front on the left wall..........trying to get the best slam factor. So far the Velo seems to blend with the SVS better.

In a double blind test 2 out of 3 people liked the sampson over the gemstone. The only one who picked the gemstone was my wife and she has really good hearing. It was hard for me to tell, I can tell a difference but it is hard to describe the difference and whether it was bad or good. Just different(slight). I also had to turn down the pro amp 10 db's to level match. Now this pro amp is not cheAp and your crown is even more expensive. I did not like the cheaper crown's as much. I did buy mine used and for that price probably one of the best amps for the money I have ever heard. Now back to the subs.
I have 2 18 inch horn subs located in the back corners of my theater. They measure 35 x 35 x 22 and weigh about 160 pound each. Having 1 in 2 corners really helps the extension and I can not localize them at all. It actually feels like it comes from the front sometimes. They are not eq'd but I am looking in to this. I just split the sub channel on my processor and then run it to my sampson, then to the subs. I gain 5 db's with them in separate corners compared to colocating them, this smooths out the bass in my room much better. Any seat in the theater now is within 1 db of each other. I used to be 3-5 db's off from front row to back row using just one svs plus/2 sub. If I corner loaded the SVS it would be 6 db's off from the back row and front row.

BTW I always thought proceed with B&W was a great combo, and the cinenova was much better than Krell kav stuff, never heard their FPB gear.

BTW I always thought proceed with B&W was a great combo, and the cinenova was much better than Krell kav stuff, never heard their FPB gear.
I can't complain....i likes it :D

Durabrqand Sub on top of TV shelf and a cyber acoustics sub which I dont use becaause it is always TOO loud! (shakes the wall too much) but the Durabrand suceeds in subsonic bass!