Has anyone heard of EluneVision screens? They are an Asian brand. Are they any good?

im waiting for some input ...eastporters are starting to ship those this week-end

someone post when they get one. At the price they rae I am really interested. I have a CRT so I'd be interested how they perform.

It appears as though the fixed frame model will be available in white and high contrast grey, both at 1.4 gain, while the manual and electric are being offered only in the white.

I have been eyeing these screens since they first appeared online; the price is no doubt very attractive.

I am currently in the process of completeing my basement HT project and I will probably install an Epson ProCinema 800 to match with one of these screens. If there is anyone with any more info. on these screens, please pass it along.

I received my Elunevision screen from Eastporters and it seems great to me. It is the electric 120" version. It goes up and down very smoothly and quietly. The screen sits flat although I have only had it installed for 4 days. There are no variations in screen contrast or hot spots that are visable. I was very pleased with the final product given the low price paid. Installation was also very simple. I also bought the Epson TW600 from Eastporters.

I am also processing my signal through a DVDO Iscan HD. The whole set up is perfect as far as I can tell.

Mike H2

How about a few screenshots. We are also all anxious on some more feedback as far as any noticeable dropoff. Does it have a wide cone?

Just got my 106" manual screen in the mail today. I've been using a DIY screen (black out fabric) for a few days and that seemed pretty nice with my Panny AE900U. I'll post my impressions of the Elunevision screen later this week when I get it setup.

Brockoli

Sorry I can not post any screen shots as I am not into the digital camera mode yet. (no Camera)

From what I can see the screen has avery wide display without any noticable drop off. It does not matter if I sit directly infront of the screen or lay down on the couch which is way off to the side the picture is great.

I am presently trying to find the propper setup for the video scaling as the standard 720p from the DvDO HD does not show the full picture. I have been serching most of the day for a video scaling program that can determine the right front porch, back porch and any other porch that might be relivant. If anyone can direct me in the right direction please do so

Reviews by CRT owners with this screen would be sweeet!!

I'm also looking forward to more opinions/pics about those screens considering great price

Same thing for me..
I would like to get one if they are not bad.
Price is good but we don't know about the quality.

Hi Guys,

I just picked up my 92 electric screen and Hitachi projector yesterday. As this is my first projector I can't compare it to anything. However I can tell you guys that it produces a very bright beautiful picture. I see Zero grains or anything distracting. the remote and on wall controller are cool. As long as it lasts a while I'm very happy with my purchase. I say go for it a that price.

If you guy have any direct questions about it, just ask and I'll take a look.

Brian

Brian,

Congrats on taking the plunge. I assume that when you say Hitachi projector you are talking about the TX200. I was also looking at this combo (but with a fixed frame model) and think it should pair well.

Did you go for the grey or white? Do you have any idea if it is a direct-reflective material or angular-reflective? In other words, do you notice a substantial drop off when viewing at an angle?

Any feedback would be helpful. THanks.

Brian,

Congrats on taking the plunge. I assume that when you say Hitachi projector you are talking about the TX200. I was also looking at this combo (but with a fixed frame model) and think it should pair well.

Did you go for the grey or white? Do you have any idea if it is a direct-reflective material or angular-reflective? In other words, do you notice a substantial drop off when viewing at an angle?

Any feedback would be helpful. THanks.

Sorry for the delay, busy with the install. Ya I was talking about the tx200. I went with the white, and there is almost no drop off. I can stand almost right beside the screen and it is still bright. I tried the stand up sit down thing and there is no difference.

Let me know if you have any other questions
Brian

Thanks for the info Brian. Could you describe the frame? Is it painted black, or velvet/cloth wrapped?

Ken

Sorry for the delay, busy with the install. Ya I was talking about the tx200. I went with the white, and there is almost no drop off. I can stand almost right beside the screen and it is still bright. I tried the stand up sit down thing and there is no difference.

Let me know if you have any other questions
Brian

PAINTED BLACK

Screen size on the 120" was measured at 104" to outside edge of black borders across instead of 104" inside of border so the size is not a true 16:9 so I found that if I adjusted to the full width of the screen I had overlap to the top and bottom of the screen which needed to be covered with the border adjustment of the Iscan. But the quality of the picture for the price of the screen is great. You can not go wrong with this screen for the money

PAINTED BLACK

Screen size on the 120" was measured at 104" to outside edge of black borders across instead of 104" inside of border so the size is not a true 16:9 so I found that if I adjusted to the full width of the screen I had overlap to the top and bottom of the screen which needed to be covered with the border adjustment of the Iscan. But the quality of the picture for the price of the screen is great. You can not go wrong with this screen for the money

I decided to go and measure my screen after reading this, and it turns out it is about 87" diagonal instead of 92". I'm still happy with my screen but 5" seems quite a bit to be off. What is your actual diagonal size?

Hi, this is Dave here, we should have cleared this up before, the screen size includes the border 1.5" which is just how it came from the manufacturer and the aspect ratio is 1.85 WideScreen format which we have listed on our site. This is true of the Electrical and Manual Screens. With 1.85 you get full screen at 1.85 movies, for 1.77 content you get some no filled areas at the sides and 2.35 you bigger film area then 1.77 screen. The Fixed Frame Screens are exactly 16:9 or 1.77 and the sizes we quote for them are actually viewable sizes. Sorry about the confusion, we didn't know about this issue until a customer brought it up just a few days ago. Sometimes we are just not always on top of things with running a buiness and going to school at the same time.

Good to know.. I want a Fixed frame so I should be fine, but now which one should I get, the Grey or the White ? My room is completely dark (no windows) just 4 walls and thats it. I have total control on light with a dimmer.

Right now i'm using a blackout cloth white and picture is fine but I have some wave because the blackout cloth is old. My projector is the Sanyo PLV-Z4 and I light bright image so thats why i'm worry about the grey screen... i'm worry for the red,blue all those color ?
I know it's better for black but I want your advice guys :)

Thank again.

I'd go for White, if you want gain, and grey if you want better colours and better blacks. I use a 134" gray in my basement with AE900, the colours are very nice. It is all up to your own preference, if you are a brightness, gain type of guy, go for white, if you like better colours go for gray. Also white is better if you are in a more well lit room as you want more gain so your colours don't wash out.

I pulled the trigger on 120' electric screen and will arrive today. I'm very curious about the quality because It's very cheap screen. Will post some pictures because I know everybody wants to see it and nobody posted anything yet.

Regards
DeathEvil

I also bought a Fixed Screen from EastPorters, as well as an TW600 Epson, the picture is Fantastic, BUT i have bought the 106 Grey screen, and it seems to big for me, I only have 12 feet to the screen from the first seat, and about 16 feet for the second row, is 12 feet too close?, anyone has the screen that close?, thanks in advance Daniel.

i'm interested in the electric screens. any further feedback out there?
what is the gain of the white screen?.
do they have any "waves"?
are they available in tensioned models?
the Eastporters site doesn't offer pricing info. how much is the 16:9,120"diag, white electric?
do they ship to the states, or is there a us distibuter?
thanks,
e.

Has anyone done a comparison between the EluneVision hi-def gray and Optoma Graywolf?

You can order screen to the US by using our order now section and on top it says if you are US resident click here. Just click that and you are ready to go.

getting mine in a few days, Will let you know then

okay Dave, I've got a real good one for you. I'm a US citizen living in the UK. Can you tell me what my options are? I've looked at your website and your prices are the best I've seen in a long while....in dollars that is. Also, between white and grey which would you recommend with a Sim 2 300e in a light controlled room?
Thanks
javry

DeathEvil

I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on the 120" you have. Post those images!!!!

I'd go for White, if you want gain, and grey if you want better colours and better blacks. I use a 134" gray in my basement with AE900, the colours are very nice. It is all up to your own preference, if you are a brightness, gain type of guy, go for white, if you like better colours go for gray. Also white is better if you are in a more well lit room as you want more gain so your colours don't wash out.

If they are both 1.4 gain why would you choose white if you want more gain? Is the grey screen truly 1.4 gain or is it somewhat less? I woud be interested in comparisons to the Optoma Graywolf screen.

Moe

any reviews/comments about the quality of these screens????


Eric

Another curious poster here.

Brockoli, you mentioned you had BOC before the screen. How would you describe the difference?

No pics yet?

I'm looking for experineces of CRT Owners, and some screen shots if anyone has any

hey

just to let you know, I did receive the screen but I'm still waiting for my ae900u. The screen same nicely packed (double boxed) and the quality seems very good especially for the price. Didn't noticed any hot spots, but don't have projector yet so can't tell what effect will be. The screen is quiet and rolles smoothly. Remote control and control panel are very nice. Can post some pics right know but I wanted to wait for projector first. If you guys have to see it now then let me know:).

BTW, this is my first 16:9 screen and it seems very wide to me. I got the 120' version and from 13feet and seems okay size wise. What I'm trying to say is IF YOU HAVE FLEXIBLE PROJECOTR (X2 zoom, lens shift etc.) THEN BUY THE BIGGEST SCREEN YOU CAN GET!. 120 is the maximum I could fit in my room but if I could I would go bigger. Before I used 4:3 and that's probably why this screen seems small/medium to me.

For the price so far I would recommend it; however, wait a little so I see how it will sctively perform.

Best Regards
DeathEvil

Screenshots! Anyone got some

Lets' see some feedback on the performance levels!!!

No news on this product??

Hey, I got my screen yesterday. (92" Fixed White Screen) I assembled the screen and I just need to fix the screen on the wall. I will do that tonight :). I will have some screenshots soon.

The only thing I can comment for now is:

*Screen quality seem to be good for the 5 minute of test that I did.
*Package is good
*The installation is a bit tricky.
*Frame is not heavy.

I tried to follow the instruction, 1 page with 4 pictures, not very well explained. Finally, I followed a mix of the instruction with my sense :). It took 1/2 hour to assembled the screen.

The frame is in alluminium painted and it is very thick. The only problem is it easy to scratch it, so make sure you dont scratch the frame with your screw driver or something else. But for the price so far it's a good screen :) . I will do more test soon. I think for this price it's a good screen for a NON-DIY and want a good screen for the price.

I'll keep you updated.

Updates? Screenshots?

I bought the 106" fixed grey to go with with my Sanyo PLV-Z4. I thought I would post my impressions since everyone wants to know.

The assembly instructions are very weak but with a little logic and common sense you can get it done in about an hour. Build quality is decent enough.

If you have a tight space to work with, be warned that the 106" is actually 108.4". I see the web site has since been updated with the real dimmentions.

I have attached a few pictures with just basic calibration on the projector. It looks good but the screen is not quite as invisible as I had hoped.

Overall, it's a good screen for the price, just don't expect it is going to equal a high end screen at this price.

Anyone buy the White screen for use with a CRT?

What I'm really interested in is a comparsion of the EluneVision High Def Gray screen and the Optoma Graywolf. Is the EluneVision retroreflective? Are there noticeable sparklies on the gray screen surface? How wide is the viewing angle? Is there a noticeable drop in brightness/contrast for ceiling mounted projectors? Any feedback on these questions appreciated.

I received an EluneVision 120" Electric with white material. I plan to post a more detailed review in the next few days but here are a few quick comments. EastPorters took my order on the 28th of June and Purolator tried to deliver it on the 30th (I was not home). EastPorters cost of shipping $50, TigerDirect.ca wanted $389 for shipping a similarly sized screen. What gives?

Rollers is only about 1.5" in diameter. It moves very slowly up and down. I will time it for the detailed review but I'd say about a minute to full retract. No up-down limit adjustment. White material very susceptible to ambient light. The screen has gentle V waves. The edges curl slightly forward. In a darkened white walled room the image quality is good. I am seeing some, what I would call dusty window effect. I think it is the screen I'm seeing. It was hardly noticeable in the darkened room but this afternoon with some ambient light in the room it was quite noticeable. Considering the closest alternative would be more than twice the price I think it is good value for the money. I was using a homemade bungee cord suspended screen made from light grey Sportlight material. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=692101 I liked it better! I will probably keep this screen. I still have some light control mods to make to our living room. If it works out ok great if not it was so cheap I will take a chance on trying to modify it. It's starting to look like there might be some fairly easy solutions to he waves so I'm not too concerned about them. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686526

Why didn't you get a fixed frame screen?

Does anyone have any screenshots of this screen's performance in ambient light?

I really like the price point of this screen, especially for a fixed screen.

But, I will be watching sports during the day, and will have some ambient light. According to projector central's calculator, I need a 1.8 gain screen for my setup for ideal viewing.

Will 1.4 be enuf? That seems to be the question. It seems like eastporters has a very good return policy, which is intriguing me to just pull the trigger.


Hmmmm.

One more question:

Is this screen material easily cleaned?

pics?

cleaning question?

Tiddler, I have a question. With those screen shots had you done any room modifications yet or were the walls and ceiling still white?

Sorry for the late response. To be honest, I found the picture quality of my BOC DIY screen to be about the same as the Elunevision white pulldown. However, my DIY started developing ripples as the cloth sagged a bit after about a week. I will be trying my hand at another DIY screen at some point. I'm happy enough with the Elunevision screen, but I want to see what a grey screen will do for my Panny 900U.

Brockoli

Another curious poster here.

Brockoli, you mentioned you had BOC before the screen. How would you describe the difference?

I am looking at getting one of these screens, the 92" fixed frame screen fixed with a Infocus sp5000, would you go with the grey or white,l I will have total light control.Thanks

Here are a couple of shots with and without some ambient light.

Optoma HD72, factory settings, bright mode
EluneVision 120" White Screen

Thanks Tiddler! That's exactly what I was looking for.

How much amient light was that and what kind (i.e. daylight, lamps)?

I'm thinking of going a white 106 in with my Panny 900...

Thanks Tiddler! That's exactly what I was looking for.

How much amient light was that and what kind (i.e. daylight, lamps)?

I'm thinking of going a white 106 in with my Panny 900...

Smitty, how far from your 106" screen will you mount your Panny 900?

Smitty, how far from your 106" screen will you mount your Panny 900?

It is on a bookshelf, at eye level, with about a 16' throw.

It is on a bookshelf, at eye level, with about a 16' throw.

Thanks Smitty. I am mounting my panny on a stand, which will also be 16 feet from the screen. I can't wait to get My Elune Vision Screen.

After not getting my DIY screen completed over the past year, I decided to give this Elunevision screen a try. I ordered the 106" gray screen. I expect it in the next day or two and will provide some feedback once I get it set up and running. Hopefully it will be better than the BOC one I'm using now.

I was planning on picking up the da lite hp screen but I may end up going this route more feedback would be great

I'm considering an EluneVision fixed frame screen.

Can anybody comment on how the black aluminum handles light absorption? Is there any reflection or is it as effective as black velvet?

Thanks.

I have an Elune Vision screen and think it is marvelous.
Here are some pics:

First, my old blackout cloth screen, which I will be replacing:
http://static.flickr.com/29/64246592_3af9a20795.jpg

Okay, now onto the Elune Vision screen!

Frame:
http://static.flickr.com/76/208793225_cb294101a2.jpg

Additional Pieces (Corner clamps, tension clips, screws, Allens wrench):
http://static.flickr.com/88/208793858_01349b9542.jpg

Closeup view of Tension clips:
http://static.flickr.com/90/208793562_88101e5d9a.jpg

Closeup of 1 Tension clip sitting on frame (Yes the frame is aluminum and is black though it is more of a grey-black then a true dark black):
http://static.flickr.com/91/208794929_bd11a33045.jpg

The Instructions sheet:
http://static.flickr.com/45/208794206_25ebe26219.jpg

The screen material:
http://static.flickr.com/69/208795617_7bb09b2fbb.jpg

Corner assembled. That is the mounting bracket you see:
http://static.flickr.com/90/208787191_6b12bfc632.jpg

Closeup of frame and parts, those poles in the plastic baggie slip into edge of screen for tension clips to grab onto:
http://static.flickr.com/94/208795324_6f18bf37a9.jpg

Assembled on floor:
http://static.flickr.com/72/208795944_6866650006.jpg

Assembled leaning against wall:
http://static.flickr.com/83/208796295_e802990a33.jpg

Assembled and mounted on theater wall:
http://static.flickr.com/68/208798383_56e2023388.jpg


In action (It's actually way brighter than this in person. I suck at taking in-action shots):
http://static.flickr.com/74/208801874_af4a2e5167.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/59/208804461_4387b44962.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/67/208805908_c8758f5e2e.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/87/208806360_0e95dc70de.jpg

Bottom line. For the price, it's an amazing bargain. Better than my blackout cloth screen due to better blacks (I have the hi-def gray screen). I don't get the dirty window effect. Screen is perfectly taut and the texture never shows up unless the screen is all white (which almost never happens). My Sanyo Z2 lights this baby great. High definition is amazing on it. I was worried that the price would mean "you get what you pay for." I am a very picky person and even my father-in-law came over to see it. He paid over $3K for his Stewart 100 inch screen and said he thought my screen was amazing.

The only downer is the black, painted aluminum doesn't do a great job of light absorption, since it isn't draped in black cloth. This is a non-issue for me as I have my image mapped almost perfectly to end where the screen ends. The screen is a true 16:9 screen. Would I buy again? You better believe it!

nice pictures,kej2u ! It is an encouragement to me since I am choosing a fixed screen. I like the price of Elunevision screen, now I have some idea about the image quality. jj

What is the size of your new screen? I have been toying with getting a new "commercial" screen. My first one was a graywolf but a. it was too small (92") and b the texture really got to me so I replaced it with a 100" Bher silverscreen screen painted right on the wall. This is working very well however gain is VERY low and the seating arrangement is not working well for the flow of our living room. I thought about other diy options but I am just not that handy. I am thinking about either the 106" or the 120". I am using a Z3 myself, thats why I am curious as to the size of yours.

yeah thanks for the pics. What size is that and is it bright enough?

Amazing pictures, kej2u. Thanks for the detailed photos of the setup and design of the screen.:)

The only downer is the black, painted aluminum doesn't do a great job of light absorption, since it isn't draped in black cloth. This is a non-issue for me as I have my image mapped almost perfectly to end where the screen ends. The screen is a true 16:9 screen.
How obvious is the light absorption? If you have experience, how does it compare to a painted black wood frame? Or, in general, is it obvious in a) a dark room; b) a dimly lit room; or c) a fully lit room?

Thanks again.

I recently purchased a tw600 from eastporters and decided to go with the blackout screen first to figure out what screen size would do well in my place. So now I am looking at going with a 120in fixed frame and I was wondering how heavy these screens were. Mainly wondering this because right now I am renting an apartment, so I cant really tear up the the walls too much.

Anyone have any experience hanging things this heavy without tearing up walls or anything like that?

btw, highly recommend the tw600 for anyone thinking about it

ezelkow1 ,If memory serves the screen weighs around 60 pounds ( like I said, thats just memory from looking at their website) but it says it comes with mounting hardware. I would try to get it into the studs if possible, if that is not possible, I would almost suggest running a 1x4 along the wall where the screen will be, attach it to as many studs as you can and then attach the screen to the lumber. Also, if you do this, I highly reccomend you run a 1 x 4 along the bottom of the screen as well so it will hang flush.

What is the size of your new screen?
What size is that and is it bright enough?

134" Fixed Frame Hi-Def Grey
Yes, it is very bright in the room. The pictures above don't do it justice. I haven't figured out that digital camera yet. The blacks (contrast) is much better since I switched from the white blackout cloth option to the grey screen.

How obvious is the light absorption? If you have experience, how does it compare to a painted black wood frame? Or, in general, is it obvious in a) a dark room; b) a dimly lit room; or c) a fully lit room?

I have never had a painted black wood frame to compare it to. In my room, it is so dark that the overspill onto the frame is mostly hidden. It is a simple aluminum frame painted black and a greyish black at that. It looks very sleek and professional but was clearly not designed to eat light. I suppose you could rig the front with fabric, but it's just not enough of an issue for me as I really have to stare at the edges to see it -- and most of the time, I'm watching the movie instead!

I was wondering how heavy these screens were. Mainly wondering this because right now I am renting an apartment, so I cant really tear up the the walls too much.

Mine felt like it was around 60 pounds. Had to have help hanging it as the two top corner brackets simply slide over and slot onto two dry-wall anchored screws. I lifted my end and the wife lifted the other (go honey!) and we hung it fairly easy. I went ahead and purchased 2 toggle screws frome Home Depot as opposed to using the cheap drywall anchor screws that come with the unit.

Just got my new carpet and home theater seating in last night. Click on my signature to see the new look!

Just ordered my 92" fixed frame. Going to pair it with an Optoma HD72.

I wish I could have ordered a 100" screen. The choice between 92" and 106" is too big a gap, but the size of the 92" screen was my only option in my HT.

I'll post pics next week.

Let me know how the 92 " turns out Im going to order it in 2 weeks....

Just ordered my 92" fixed frame. Going to pair it with an Optoma HD72.

I wish I could have ordered a 100" screen. The choice between 92" and 106" is too big a gap, but the size of the 92" screen was my only option in my HT.

I'll post pics next week.

I hear you. I really would like to get a hold of an inexpensive screen like the EluneVision in a 100" size. And it looks like the 106" EluneVision only comes in gray.

I hear you. I really would like to get a hold of an inexpensive screen like the EluneVision in a 100" size. And it looks like the 106" EluneVision only comes in gray.
Ah well, there's almost always a "catch" when getting a good deal. A 100" Carada screen, for example, would have fit PERFECTLY in my shadow box, but at a cost of over $700 more. I'll settle for the smaller screen with a 5" gap to each side wall.

Hopefully, I'll get it set up this week. The projector and mount are also on their way.

I received my 92" fixed frame screen yesterday and assembled it last night.

First impressions: man, this box is long. It was able to fit in my car which only has a centre arm-rest pass-through in the back seat. I think that's when it first hit me how big my screen will be.:D (my first pj screen ever, can you tell?)

Overall weight is about 30-35 lbs for mine. As kej2u pointed out, the frame is aluminum which makes it quite lightweight, but it is definitely NOT black. It is dark grey and has a slightly shiny rather than matte surface. I don't think it would easily accommodate any customization via a black velvet wrap to create a totally black frame. Anyways, not a real surprise since kej2u already posted great assembly pics.:)

Upon close examination, my screen had a MINOR light brown smudge/streak, about 1" long and 1/8th" wide. It is so faint that I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't been looking at it from 1' away during assembly. It is not viewable under room lighting from more than a couple feet away. If it is viewable under a white projector light, then I'll call Eastporters to see what they say. I want to stress, that is the only imperfection I've noticed and I don't think it will be noticeable under normal (ie. > 1' viewing distance) circumstances. In any event, I expect my 3 year old to do much worse in coming weeks. [the five stages of grief ... :eek: :mad: :cool: :( :rolleyes: ]

Assembly took about half an hour. Would have been less if I hadn't forgot to insert the bolts into the frame in the very first step!

At first, I thought they had shipped the wrong size screen as it was several inches too short to reach the frame edges. I was wary of pulling the screen too hard, thinking it might rip. After some pulling, I came to realize what tension really is. The screen material is a lot more stretchy than I had anticipated (remember, this is my first pj and screen:)). Once I had used my limited muscle power, I was able to create a very taut and wrinkle-free surface. The tension clips work perfectly and feel secure.

Mounting plates are positioned at the top 2 corners only which means I will need drywall anchors. The 2 drywall anchors that are included are quite lame.

Overall, a fairly straight-forward assembly, although the instructions aren't very good. Think of it this way: better than no instructions but not as good as Ikea (and I'm not saying the Ikea always has easy instructions). :p

So, overall it probably SHOULD have taken about 15 minutes to assemble unless you're a guy like me and don't ask for directions.:D

Now, I just have to figure out how to mount this onto the wall. First off, I have to install my projector and mount (today?) and see exactly where the image will be projected. Then I have to decide if I want to shim out the top of the screen so that it angles downward slightly (which may be preferrable due to the high offset of the Optoma HD72 and my low ceiling to avoid digital keystoning). If I mount it flush with the wall, I may pick up some toggle screws as kej2u did. My main concern is that I thought toggle screws were better for ceiling drywall installation rather than walls??? Another option would be those metal drywall anchors that spread out like a mushroom behind the wall (I forget what those are called).

Anyways, I can't do much until I get the pj installed, so I will post pics when that's done.

I also received my 92" screen last night and it took me about 45 minutes to assemble. I only had 21 of the 24 hangers and one of the L brackets was just too thick and wouldn't fit inside the frame. I ended up taking a sander to it and it fit just perfect after that.

The frame is a bit reflective and not really a nice absorbant black. It is a nice frame though, looks pretty classy.

Shipping took 6 days which is definately impressive. They use Purolator shipping and if you need a tracking # you will have to call them.

Overall I'm happy with it. Very very nice looks but obviously not quite the performance you'll get out of higher priced screens.

well lets see some pictures of that badboy in action. I should be moved in to my new house in mid september and I'll take some hq shots of the 134"

I just got my 120in fixed frame in today and Ive been trying to put it together, got the frame all done and now Im working on the screen. So for those of you who have done the fixed frame option, how far did you have to stretch your screen, because mine looks like its 5in off from the side, didnt want to put a whole lot of force behind until I knew for sure if this was correct.

eze, from what I have read, that is pretty much how they are and you have to stretch the devil out of the material but I guss thats what a fixed frame is all about.

yea, i emailed them to make sure and then went ahead and did it. I got it all setup now and it is a really nice picture.

I would post the flickr link to my pics but it says i cant since I havent done 5 posts yet. maybe this one makes 5 and then Ill post them.

My digicam really sucks so I can only really take pictures that have at least some ambient light, but the completely dark usage is perfect. And now with this screen it is completely viewable in daylight in even the lowest lamp setting.

Yea, that was 5 posts, so here's the link:

Pics here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sasquatc4/sets/72157594252675102/)

So, here's my 92" screen:

Close-up angle view:
http://static.flickr.com/77/230906129_98ecf4c59e.jpg

Front view, with speaker panels below:
http://static.flickr.com/66/230906131_fa7aa9c35e.jpg

Obligatory screenshot:
http://static.flickr.com/77/230906132_290859ab1c.jpg

Very nice Dragon. I really want to get a 120 or possibly 135" but ( the last time I looked) Eastporters just does not have many sizes to choose from anymore, I think the last time they had 120 and 135 both in gray only? It will be a little longer before I can buy so I wonder if I will still be able to get it from them..

I just looked again and they have the 120 in white and gray and the 135 in gray only. No 92 or 106".

Very nice Dragon. I really want to get a 120 or possibly 135" but ( the last time I looked) Eastporters just does not have many sizes to choose from anymore, I think the last time they had 120 and 135 both in gray only? It will be a little longer before I can buy so I wonder if I will still be able to get it from them..

I just looked again and they have the 120 in white and gray and the 135 in gray only. No 92 or 106".
Wow, that sucks. And I thought they had limited options before! :eek: For instance, I would have loved to get a 100" screen as that would have fit perfectly in my shadow-box.

You can only hope that they are clearing out old inventory in order to make room for a new shipment of Elunevision screens (with more options too, hopefully). Try contacting them to see what they say. Either that, or they're going to stop selling Elunevision altogether.:(

On a side note, does anybody know how I can display my pictures within my post like kej2u did with his post #61? The "attachments" don't garner as much notice, IMHO.

Well you can see the 120 white in my pics, so they do have those in. I think on the site i saw the only ones they were limited on were the 134's

I went ahead and sent them an e-mail, I will post their reply once I get it.

Canadian version of site has a note that says:

"As you may have already noticed lately, most of our Fixed Frame Screens no longer listed. This was because we ran out of stock, due to overwhelming demand. They will be back in stock by end of September. We apologize for this inconvenience."

I ordered a 120" fixed frame screen from Eastporters, but they delivered a much cheaper manual pull down screen. They have promised me that the the replacement is on the way, but I haven't seen the tracking number yet. I'm a bit worried given their reported lack of stock.

This is the response I got from the today

"They went out of stock, but will be available again in about a month.

Thanks."

This is the response I got from the today

"They went out of stock, but will be available again in about a month.

Thanks."
If they get a 100 incher, I'll be kickin myself. :rolleyes:

If the frame is too reflective, have any of you tried painting the frame with a flat black paint before installing the fabric?

Ron Jones

If the frame is too reflective, have any of you tried painting the frame with a flat black paint before installing the fabric?
The paint will probably reduce its reflectiveness, but will it be enough of an improvement that you'd be willing to risk ruining the finish of your frame? Not for me.

Personally, the reflectiveness doesn't bother me as I've projected the image to have only about 1-2 pixels of overspill, and the only time it's really noticeable is on closed-captioned tv channels (with the top couple pixel rows displaying white garbage).

would it be possible to wrap the frame in velvet before attaching the material?

would it be possible to wrap the frame in velvet before attaching the material?
It would be difficult for several reasons:

1. The aluminum frame is hollow, and at the corners you must insert these L brackets inside the frame which would make it difficult to get a tightly wrapped mitered corner. [thanks to kej2u for the detailed pics]
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2. It would be hard to attach the velvet to the backside of the aluminum frame. It's not like you can just use staples like with DIY wood frames.

3. The screen and tension clips may get in the way of securing it to the backside of the frame.

I think the trickiest task would be #2. A spray adhesive may do the job, but I'm not sure it would be strong enough. Not to mention the fact that if the spray doesn't work, there's no going back because you've just ruined the frame's finish.

Having said that, if anybody has tried it (successfully), let's see it.:)

Just got off the phone:

The new arrival date is 1st week of October and of notable mention is a 1.8 grey screen material.

I might have to hold out for that.

1.8 is awesome, I might be able to do white screen if it is that high. Did they mention any price increase?

I didn't ask about pricing... Sorry

Not a problem. Thanks for the heads up though.

Just got off the phone:

The new arrival date is 1st week of October and of notable mention is a 1.8 grey screen material.

I might have to hold out for that.

Did they say whether the 1.8 grey will be available in 120" or bigger?

IIRC, they said that all four screen materials will be available in all four sizes.

...

Make that arrival date in 1 to 2 weeks.

I wish they would just say 16 years from now because I get excited and then they push it back. But if they said 16 years from now when it comes in 2 weeks I would be suprised AND excited.

More pics of my screen.

Click on my signature to view the slideshow.

Dragon, that in one word is perfect. Your room is my "grail" . How long did it take to complete? I am suprised that you left the sub out, with that much extra play room I think I would of pushed the scren wall out another few feet and put an i.b sub in/behind it.

Is the screen meeting all of your expectations or do you have any complaints? With it getting so close to christmas time I probably will need to wait until after the holidays before I will be able to buy so that gives me time ( assuming they ever get the new stock out) to replan and look at other option but right now I am planning on going with either 106 or 120" 1.8 gray screen ( again if they get it ).

Are there texture or sparkley issues with your screen? That was one of the biggest issues I had with my Graywolf. It is still leaning in the corner of my living room, I keep saying its going up for sale but I never get that far.

Dragon, that in one word is perfect. Your room is my "grail" . How long did it take to complete? I am suprised that you left the sub out, with that much extra play room I think I would of pushed the scren wall out another few feet and put an i.b sub in/behind it.THANKS! It took about 8 months to finish the HT and the rest of the basement. The HT section was about 1/3 the size of the basement but about 1/2 of the work. :)

I initially planned to have the sub in the back right section of the HT space, right beside the chairs and under the right surround speaker. However, after hooking things up, it sounded AWFUL in that placement, so I moved it and now it sounds GREAT. I didn't want to put the sub into the wall because I wanted to keep the shadow box as deep as possible, and I was afraid it might sound too boomy in that wall cavity. The depth of the shadow box is 1' and the space behind the wall is 1' (just enough depth for the LCR speakers).


Is the screen meeting all of your expectations or do you have any complaints? With it getting so close to christmas time I probably will need to wait until after the holidays before I will be able to buy so that gives me time ( assuming they ever get the new stock out) to replan and look at other option but right now I am planning on going with either 106 or 120" 1.8 gray screen ( again if they get it ).One complaint with the Elunevision is that it didn't come in a 100" size which I had planned for (that's why there is a gap of 5-6 inches beside and under the screen). A second complaint would be the grey frame as it does not absorb any light.

Fortunately, it is a perfect 16:9 size, so I have scaled my PJ output right to the edge of the screen material. This works good for TV (except for some SD channels where you see a couple lines of garbage along the top). Unfortunately, my dvd player (Oppo) has a slight underscan issue so that the image stops short of the frame by a few pixels. For me, this doesn't detract from the overall enjoyment of the picture because I ignore it. And for 2.35:1 movies, there's a huge bar above and below the screen anyways.:) Ideally, I would like to have a light-absorbent frame so that I can utilize those couple extra lines using the DVD player and hide the subtitle garbage with TV.

But, then I tell myself, for $300, you can't go wrong with the EluneVision.


Are there texture or sparkley issues with your screen? That was one of the biggest issues I had with my Graywolf. It is still leaning in the corner of my living room, I keep saying its going up for sale but I never get that far.The only sparklie issue I've seen is when I sit directly on the floor right in front of the stage (about 3' away). There was a very bright scene on screen at the time and I noticed just a little. Again, a non-issue really because nobody would ever sit where I did, and even from my red rocker chair position, the sparklies aren't a problem. There isn't any sparklie issues from any of my chairs (although, I admit, I haven't actively looked for it). Suffice it to say, there has been nothing noticeable in regular viewing.

Good luck with your screen choice. I left mine until last minute, and I guess I ordered it just in time!

Glad you are enjoying your setup. I actually got back on her just now to show your pictures to my wife. There used to be a day when projectors, hundreds of movies, more than a half dozen speakers etc. seemed very " eccentric" ( as she used to say) to her but now she is making lists of all of the movies she would like to have and is buying widescreen instead of pan and scan and she has been noticing that our sub sounds better in one place than the other.

Glad you are enjoying your setup. I actually got back on her just now to show your pictures to my wife. There used to be a day when projectors, hundreds of movies, more than a half dozen speakers etc. seemed very " eccentric" ( as she used to say) to her but now she is making lists of all of the movies she would like to have and is buying widescreen instead of pan and scan and she has been noticing that our sub sounds better in one place than the other.
EXACTLY!

There's a limit on what you can put into words about what you're going to do and how much you're going to spend, but once she experiences (sight AND sound) the finished product, it's a Eureka moment.:D

More Information:

The NEW screens should arrive in a week. They are totally different than the old ones.

Frame is velvet wrapped
Screen material is now 3 ply with a black back layer (NO light leakage)
White gain is going down to 1.2 (from 1.4)
Grey gain is going down to 1.1 (from 1.2)

The new grey is a 1.8 gain and it is IDENTICAL to the Optoma Greywolf II. Acoording to the guy I talked to it "comes from the same factory".

The pricing will be within $20 for the replacements and about $100-150 more for the 1.8 grey.

All three materials will come in all four sizes.


Can you tell I'm ready for a screen?

Thats exciting that it has a velvet border. I have read that the dark gray border is less than pleasing. I am concerned about it looking just like the graywolf. Thats what I "had" ( finally took it out of the corner and put it back in its box in the basement) I had to switch because the texture was just overwhelming at times. It really made a lot of good transfers look dirty. I may not jump in early but if the reviews I read are good I won't be far behind.



One quick though,he said it " comes from the same factory" I wonder if thats like when I was a kid and did not want generic ( Insert random food, object etc here) because I wanted name brand and she would always say "It comes from the same factory" and neglected to say that it very well might come from the same factory but its made of the scraps and left overs and pieces that were not up to par.

My exact question about the 1.8 (Since I only knew of one other 1.8 grey):

"Is it like or similar to the Graywolf II"

Then the guy laughed and said yes it comes from the same factory.

I too wondered if it is "seconds", but then that wouldn't make good business sense. I think that if you like or dislike the GWII, you will feel the same about this screen, also.

Well, I had the GW1 and other than texture I loved the screen, then again, it was my first screen so I never had any reason not to. Granted I did loose quite a bit of brightness which in turn cost me a little detail and blackness when I switched to the much larger bher silverscreen but going from 92" up to 110" is a lot bigger than the math may suggest. Since there is not a 110" Elune screen I will either have to go down to the 106 or up to 120,but according to projector central, either will be just fine and dandy.

More Information:

The NEW screens should arrive in a week. They are totally different than the old ones.

Frame is velvet wrapped
Screen material is now 3 ply with a black back layer (NO light leakage)
White gain is going down to 1.2 (from 1.4)
Grey gain is going down to 1.1 (from 1.2)

The new grey is a 1.8 gain and it is IDENTICAL to the Optoma Greywolf II. Acoording to the guy I talked to it "comes from the same factory".

The pricing will be within $20 for the replacements and about $100-150 more for the 1.8 grey.

All three materials will come in all four sizes.


Can you tell I'm ready for a screen?

Crap. That would mean the 1.8 is retroreflective, i.e. not so good for ceiling mounting. Crap.

I'm not in need of a 1.8 grey. I get pretty good results off of my white wall but I'd like a little extra punch. I also like how "finished" a screen makes the whole set-up look. So, I plan on getting the 1.2 white.

But, I wouldn't give up on the 1.8 grey if I were you. It seems to be real subjective when it comes to ceiling mounted applications. Some people like it, some people dislike it. You might have to try it to see if you like it.

Hey Lidless,

As mentioned, I have / used the graywolf and I also have kids and a dog and cat so keeping my projector elevated was important plus I did not want to have to get it out and set it up so I bought a stand, my dvds are in the lower shelves, my receiver is in the top shelf and my projector and dvd player are on the top of the stand, I would say around 5' off of the ground. Its really about the max you could put it up but there is no difference between having the projector on the coffee table and 5', after that it is noticable. I wonder how much lense shift plays into that, though. My z3 has vertical and horizontal shift ( which is wonderful!) .

The darker gray of the graywolf did offer much better black levels than my current silverscreen and I do miss that whole big bunches ( sorry... talking to the kids too)but the gw did dirty the whites some. I still worry about texture. I need to read some reviews re:texture with gw2 I guess.

Thanks for the input, but no way i'm doing other than ceiling mounting. Too many advantages, keeping it away from the kiddies (two year old and 7 month old here), is only one of them. I also like being able to jump up during a ball game and still not block the picture.

As for the kids, I'm also looking for a enclosed equipment rack with locks, but that search isn't going so well (at least if I want to spend < $2k).

For 2 grand, heck for a lot less than that you could just do a built in and put a shelf with fans for the projector so its only open during a movie.. or just give it its own door so the rest of the rack can stay closed?

I love ceiling mounting my projector. It looks very professional.

And the 5 year old and the 6 month old can crawl around his hearts content.

and then the Wii (http://wii.com) is coming soon.

I'm looking for a new electric/auto screen...............

-I have the panasonic PT-AX100U projector on order (arriving today)
2000 lumens, 6000:1 contrast ratio

-14 & 1/2 foot throw distance (I have 20 foot ceilings and plenty of room)

The EluneVision prices are great. Found the 120" online for $254.99! That's for the the 1.4 gain pure white. My projector is pretty bright so I dont think I need the extra gain. I have a light controlled room with dimmers for some minimal lighting.

I'm leaning towards the Elite CineTension. (with high contrast gray) for around $700

Does the EluneVision come in high contrast gray? like the elite

I'm trying to find the best bang for the buck screen.
(some quality overrules over price though)

Also,

The throw calc says I can fit up to a 130" screen. Do you think anything over 100" is too big? I guess I'll find out what feels comfortable as I thow it on the bare wall for the initial testing later today.

As for the kids, I'm also looking for a enclosed equipment rack with locks, but that search isn't going so well (at least if I want to spend < $2k).For a couple hundred dollars, here's an idea.

I designed a built-in shelf for my equipment when I finished my basement. It's an Ikea Pax wardrobe cabinet which is the perfect width for components, and it's also plenty deep. Check out my signature to see the end-result, the "left wall" picture. My only problem was that it was a little bit too high to fit where I wanted, so I cut it down slightly and doors are available in 2 heights for this unit. In my case, I put a door on the back so that I could access my components from the closet behind, and just left the front open.

However, you would need a RF (vs. IR) programmable remote to control your equipment with the door closed. And, you could probably install a lock on the door to limit access by your kids.

Someone wake me up when they arrive.

Someone wake me up when they arrive.
Well, they've arrived.

But wait! Stop! Don't Go!

They aren't listed on the website, yet. The nice guy on the phone said "In a few days."

I ordered a 120"fixed screen in the grey yesterday. The prices are 60 higher for the new screen compared to the old one. It should be shipped out today.

Kind of like in Young Frankenstien when the blind men ( Gene Hackman) says to the monster " Wait, where are you going.... I was gonna make espresso" One of the best lines ever!

Good, glad they have arrived! I am anxious to start reading some reviews because I just got a nice raise this week and I am ready to spend some sweet moola.

well the new screens are up

and they also have a 2.4 pro cinema white series

Cool, I have been watching the site but have not checked since yesterday afternoon, looking forward to checking it out!

I just looked at the site, are they going to be available for us south of the border like before? I hope so!

I'msure I'll just have to make a phone call.... again ;)

Lol, your the man ( I guess your a man, anyway)

the thing that gets me interested in these screens ( besides the price ) is that they say that the screen material is flexible and is not prone to waves ,mmmm if this is true that would be a bonus , but who knows :)



because this screen will be for my sis. and brother in law as a gift that will be also be presented with there new optoma hd70 pj ... , the only thing is which material will work ?


because my optoma h56a and h79 pj's work very well with my Video Spectra™ 1.5, ?,but hd70, i do not know , i will check it out on my screen to see how it works out ,

the thing that gets me interested in these screens ( besides the price ) is that they say that the screen material is flexible and is not prone to waves ,mmmm if this is true that would be a bonus , but who knows :)
For my screen, it definitely was flexible. In fact, when I laid it out on top of the frame, I thought they had sent the wrong size screen because it looked too small.

But after stretching it out, it has remained perfectly flat for the past 2 months.

that's great to hear Dragon for my future purpose ;) , and it does not let in light from the back say if you set it up in front of a window ?, but the thing is and I know this very well I think I my have to get an electric for my sis. setup 80x45 , because she lives in a condo and the only place that it will fit perfectly is in front of an opening leading to the dinning room that I can mount the screen ,so I wonder if the electric will do well ,


the dreaded waves :D ,


ps nice job on the theater ;) , and what pj you have and what material of screen are you kicking ?

that's great to hear Dragon for my future purpose ;) , and it does not let in light from the back say if you set it up in front of a window ?, but the thing is and I know this very well I think I my have to get an electric for my sis. setup 80x45 , because she lives in a condo and the only place that it will fit perfectly is in front of an opening leading to the dinning room that I can mount the screen ,so I wonder if the electric will do well ,


the dreaded waves :D ,


ps nice job on the theater ;) , and what pj you have and what material of screen are you kicking ?
Can't comment on the light transmissibility for my setup, but, I don't imagine it would be a problem.

I have an Optoma HD72 projector with the 1.4 gain EluneVision screen. It's a good pairing for me because I like to keep a few lights on (usually the 6 pot-lights along the side walls).

Can't comment on the light transmissibility for my setup, but, I don't imagine it would be a problem.

oh I know what you mean , but because that you have the screen I thought that you could give me the low down on the material thickness and stuff . ;)

So I called and told them which one I wanted and they sent me a link and I ordered it.

FINALLY, I ordered a screen. I was so sure that I would get the 1.2 white but I opted for the 2.4 pro cinema.

After "doing the math" and making a ton of assumptions (I mean a 100 degree viewing angle is a lot), I figure worst case I'll be getting 1.5 on the wings.

Wish me luck :D

I did the same today....I was looking HARD at the Da-Lite HP, but the price and features of the new EluneVision Elara series won me over.

Standard with a 3inch Black velvet border, that would cost me over double to duplicate with the Dalite Cinema Contour with Pro-Trim.

The only major downsides I can see are:
1. Screen gain not quite as high as Dalite HP (2.8 vs 2.4)
2. Elunevision screen is not washable.

I can live with that for the price ;)


Anyone in the market for a screen should seriously look at the new EluneVision's

I am close to pulling the trigger. Let us know how these new screens perform. Is the grey the best for DLP?

I have a DLP and I am getting the white.

I am close to pulling the trigger. Let us know how these new screens perform. Is the grey the best for DLP?
That would depend on several factors including:

a) your viewing habits; e.g. lights on or off
b) your room colour; e.g. walls, ceilings, flooring
c) your projector and screen size

What's your setup?

It's a dedicated home theater with 100% light control. We watch with lights off. DIY Parkland screen is 120" with curtains on each side. Walls are a light brown. Projector is an old but reliable Infocus X-1 which will probably be kept for two more years (want to replace the family room 37" CRT with a 50" plasma around the holidays so I am cash limited). Want the screen to be "future proof" as possible which means when the 1080p DLPs get cheap enough it will work well with it, as well as the current X-1.

Hey guys, I just picked up the new 92" EluneVision Elara white fixed screen with 1.2 gain as I live about an hour from them to match my Hitachi tx200.

I have my projector mounted from the ceiling and everything looks awesome. It took a little bit to get the screen together yesterday, but it looks great and my wife most importantly loves it. The velvet border looks very classy and adds such a nice touch to our home theater.

I have curtains to the side and top, medium to light colour wall and white ceiling with light controlled room. We watched history of violence in HD, CSI miami and couple other shows and looked great. No noticeable texture or spots in the background or anything, real nice colours and good blacks.

For the price I didn't consider anything else, picture looks great to me and the screen looks like it's worth four times as much.

Hey guys, I just picked up the new 92" EluneVision Elara white fixed screen with 1.2 gain as I live about an hour from them to match my Hitachi tx200.

I have my projector mounted from the ceiling and everything looks awesome. It took a little bit to get the screen together yesterday, but it looks great and my wife most importantly loves it. The velvet border looks very classy and adds such a nice touch to our home theater.

I have curtains to the side and top, medium to light colour wall and white ceiling with light controlled room. We watched history of violence in HD, CSI miami and couple other shows and looked great. No noticeable texture or spots in the background or anything, real nice colours and good blacks.

For the price I didn't consider anything else, picture looks great to me and the screen looks like it's worth four times as much.


Sounds nice! Thanks for your review!
What were you using before? Just wondering if there is anything you could compare it to. Its quite hard and frustrating buying a screen!!

I just had painted the wall, but after my wife recently surprised me with curtains as gift I needed to have that professional home theater look. I'll try to take some pictures when I have a chance and when I turn on the projector again.
Any tips for taking picture while PJ is on? Loved to show you guys. I tried during world cup to take shot to show friend but didn't turn out. I have a basic 3.2 Canon camera. Thanks.

Thanks for the updates – I’m in the middle of finishing the theater room in the basement and want to pick out a 92” fixed screen to make sure that I have everything set up correct for the screen placement. I will be using the screen with a Sanyo Z5 (placed about 10/11 feet back - ceiling mounted)

I was wondering if there was a big difference between the new Elunevision High Def Cinema White Gain 1.2 and the Carada Brilliant White Gain 1.4 screen – I will have a 100% light controlled room. The Carada screen is about double the cost. This will be my first projector set-up.

Sure would love to see the pictures of the new screens :)

Thanks

Hi guy's, as i'm reading this, i'm waiting tomorrow for my new screen, i have ordered the tw600 from eastporters and a 106 " screen old model, gray, i was not impresed at all, sold that and did a blackout clot one same size, picture is fantastic , specialy on toshiba hd dvd a1, after i saw that they got the new screens in i have ordered a 106" pro cinema white 2.4 gain, i will post my impresions, the main reason for ordering this new one is because of the black velvet and 3 plying screen, i will get my screen friday, late, can't wait.

I just took a look at the American site and they have the varities up but not all of the sizes. I think this and a hd dvd player will be my splurge for tax time ( shhh I may replace my bookshelves for floor standers up front too...but thats between you and me)

I just took a look at the American site and they have the varities up but not all of the sizes.

I noticed this last weekend and contacted Eastporters about it. They are not limiting their products available to the US. They said to use the Canadian version of the site for product information and for pricing us a 1.13 conversion factor.

I looked again today and the various sizes are up.I am anxious to see a couple screen pictures, not the same generic pictures they have had up for their first run of screens. I would especially like a shot of the corners of one of the new frames, to see the velvet and how it looks etc. A screen shot would be fine and dandy but unless they do it with a Z3 in my room its not going to matter much anyway.

I did manage to sell my GWI this week which got me to thinking.I have been trying to find a reason to justify their low prices and somebody mentioned these screens are made at the same location as GW screens. We discussed them being left overs, scraps etc. but I wonder if they aren't just GWI screens repackaged? It would make perfect marketing sense, they have all of this material to do something with.

I really REALLY want to go with a 134" screen but will probably have to do a 120" It falls in pretty well with the projector central calc. but 135 is a little overboard, even at 1.8 gain, I think I need a gray screen, its what I have always had and could not live with the "blacks" from a white screen. I thought about trying a wide angle lens to make the image a little bigger but I think 120" will be just fine...At this price its easy enough to upgrade when we get a larger room.

well i have received the screen just got home, i opened the package, and the first aluminium frame to see the black velvet and , oh my god it is absolutely fantastic, the box is very well packed, i am now going to assemble this baby, will post some screen shots, soon.

well i have received the screen just got home, i opened the package, and the first aluminium frame to see the black velvet and , oh my god it is absolutely fantastic, the box is very well packed, i am now going to assemble this baby, will post some screen shots, soon.
which screen did you get?

Well, come on... I don't know what time zone you're in, but you've had at least 40 minutes already. Let's hurry up with those pictures ;) :D

My screen shows up on Tuesday and "Darn it all to heck!" Im going to be in Utah for work!

Guess I'll have to quit my job.

I got the 106" 2.4-gain screenElune Vision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema White

I got the 106" 2.4-gain screenElune Vision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema White
Well good. I NEED to know what you think. My cognitive dissonance is killing me. I'm sure I made a great decision but if you could just confirm that for me... that'd be great :D

Would you say the screen is retro-reflective or angular reflective
and:
What pj do you have and how is it mounted

if you guys don't mind, please educate me about the different gain parameters. I have a Panny 900U. I want to get a 134" fixed frame screen, but don't know what "gain" I need. I thought gain 1.0 or 1.2 was good enough.

Thanks,

i have taking some pics, (the velvet looks very Rich, )
but with the flash on it looks with a lot of white pigments in it,

try this guy's but those pics are not doing anu justice, reality is far more better.
as i've said those white pigments are only with the flash.the black of the velvet is very black, rich , beautiful

http://www.members.shaw.ca/dbalas/screen.JPG
http://www.members.shaw.ca/dbalas/screen1.JPG

Cool. I think I get the idea.

if you guys don't mind, please educate me about the different gain parameters. I have a Panny 900U. I want to get a 134" fixed frame screen, but don't know what "gain" I need. I thought gain 1.0 or 1.2 was good enough.

Thanks,
Well much like everything else in FP, it is all about you. If you think the 1.0 or 1.2 would be good enough, you're probably right.

I am going with the 2.4 gain because I am at the top of my lumens and I don't want to kick on up the lamp to high output.

I've heard people says things equating a high gain screen to a new/brighter lamp.

i just unpack the screen , it has glass beads on it, very bright, i'm just taking the time to put this together,the manual could be better, also there is no confirmation on the package that i have received the screen that i have ordered, i guess trust is one of the factors.
i will be using with this an Epson TW 600 , ordered from the same place, and the Pj is ceiling mounted.

well i have just finished , first impresions are that is more bright then my blackout cloth, also the colours are more vibrant, overall i am very pleased with it, , will do the calibration again tomorrow, for the money it is very good P Q

Hey octogon, nice pics. My frame looks exactly the same and the velvet is beautiful. You're definitely right, pics don't do justice. The velvet is perfectly black, those white specs are from flash on camera, the velvet is perfectly smooth and black all around and fits perfect around frame. Furthermore, I did forget to mention that everything is packed perfectly, so I wouldn't worry about anything there. Still haven't used PJ, maybe in next day or two I can get a pic of screen if camera co-operates.

thanks , also last night after looking more careful, i have seen a black spot on the right hand corner close to the bottom, i have mailed them to see how they will solve the problem, have not tried yet to wash that, i now it is not washable, after i have seen that you tent to look for it all the time, i still have to hang the screen today, and do the calibration, but this screen if brighter then the blackout cloth, i had the blackout cloth screen hanged and put the new one under it, so i had half the image on one screnn and the other half on the other, the difference is quite abit, as the colours are more vibrant, they come more to life, some buildings in batman begins are grey on the old one, they apear very bright white on the new one, very happy with it , except that black spot on the right hand, and no i did have no grease on my hands when i put this togehter, also on the back of the screen, they were a dozen of hand prints that you can see very well, the back of the screen is black, i have to wait to see about the answer and i will let you know, all the best.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/dbalas/damage.jpg

Man o Man, I go to bed early and sleep for 12 hours and miss all sorts of "hot action" Looking good guys!

I have to admit, i just got an e-mail from eastporters, that states they will send me a new material on monday, this is fantastic service, and customer service, i have sent them the picture with the black spot as well, i will take this out and wait for the new one.

Also i forgot to mention, that i had to shake the frame a bit , it had a lot of black dust inside, and after i had all assembled i stoled one of those sticky lint rolers and run it over the velvet , man it looks amazing, now just have to wait for the new screen.

While we are all entitled to our stories and opinions, this entire thread is full of "happy stories".

If you wouldn't mind some pictures and some specifics, two things would happen:

First, you'd look a little more credible
But two, I'd love the input.

So be a sport and give some detail: Size, screen material, when did you buy it, etc.

Do not buy this inferior product from EluneVision (Eastporters). Yes, it's cheap but save yourself the aggrivation of screw holes that don't line-up, stitches that come apart, important plastic parts that easily break. The company will send you new parts if they break but who is to say it won't break again one or two years from now when this company goes out of business. Enough said.

Visual2o, back yourself up.. WHY?

Somebody once told me not to buy Hyundai because they were cheap, my first was an Accent, after 140,000 miles I traded in for an Elantra and have almost 80,000 on it and all I have had to replace so far was a clutch on the Accent but I had never driven a stick before.

So come on with all of your wisdom, why not.Oh, and if you want to be paid attention to, don't troll the thread and type in some new material instead of the same thing over and over in.

By no means I am saying this to make a comercial for the east porters, sure , problems can occur, I can atest to that but the customer service that i have received from them is by far one of the best, and i'm sure i'm not the only one, also i have noticed that price just went up on the model that i have bought.

Do not buy EluneVision unless you want stitches that come apart, screw holes that don't line-up, or important plastic parts that easily break. The company will send you new parts but save yourself the time and aggrivation and buy a quality product from someone else.
Re: Visual20 ... a new member who uses 5 posts to say the same thing. Hmmm, that's not too suspicious. :rolleyes:

Do not feed this troll.

Well said Dragon.

Are there any screen shots of the new screens yet? More specifically, any screen shots using a Z3, calibrated just like mine with just under 400 hours... in my room?

Well, by next week I can post pics of the 106" 2.4 white screen with a Z3. Although I have 5000+ hours on my bulb :)

How did you get that many hours out of a Z3? Is there any picture left?

in a rush and couldnt read the whole thread but where can I purchase this is I was interested?

Well here are the pictures for those who just want to see pictures (http://web.mac.com/theblackmanfamily/iWeb/Our%20family/New%20Screen.html)

Here is the story:

So it finally arrived! Well, it only felt like "finally". I think total time was about a week. I ordered the 135" 2.4 gain white.

The product is packaged well and I took my time opening all the parts because that is what I do.

Assembly was a little taxing as there are things you need to do that aren't in the instructions. For starters the tensioning screws part of the instructions read "7 in the long side and 5 in the short side" but for this screen it is 10 in the long side and 6 in the short side. I realized I had "extras" and unrolled the screen to see how many holes were in the border. It was a good thing I did.

Speaking of the screen, it has an odor to it that lingers for awhile. If you are sensitive to smells, open a window.

Another little tidbit that is not in the instructions (actually I think this is in the instructions it just might be translated poorly) is the use of some small hex nuts that are inserted into the frame. They will eventually be to hang the screen with. They also act as more reinforcement for the corners.

Soeaking of the corners be careful with the corner braces. They are plastic and will break. I know. I broke one. There are about three reasons why I didn't breakdown and cry and scream and call Eastporters for another one. First, I broke it. Second the corners are also held together by the metal plates and by the sheer tension of the screen. And lastly, I didn't want to wait for another one to show up. In that regard, I was a little impatient.

The corner bracing does, however, leave a lot to be desired. The pre-drilled holes in the aluminum of the frame are designed to line up with metal inserts in the plastic. It is simple: You place the corner braces in the frame and then screw it all together with allen-head bolts.

If I have any advice to give you: Skip this step. The corner braces are just that: braces. Trying to line up the holes with the braces was tedious and downright difficult. For the most part I simply strong-armed the bolts into the inserts since they weren't lining up perfectly. I ended up breaking one of the corner braces because I tried to pull one side out. It was clearly my fault. Torque is a killer... a killer! But as I thought about it the screen is going to ultimately hold the frame together.

edit: So to be clear, insert the corner braces but don't screw them in.

So then after you get the frame all done, it is time for the screen material. Or course you have to roll it out and insert nice long rods into it. I only bring this step up because you need lots of space. Be sure you have room to actually do this. I also disliked this step because as you are pushing the rod through the pocket, it likes to come up through the slits (holes) for the tensioning screws.

So then you slide the tensioning screws into place so that they line up with the slits in the screen material. Then you tighten them. The actual instructions read something like "tighten until there are no waves or wrinkles. This is actually a step I screwed up on. I jut kept tightening and tightening and the middle of my long rails bows a little.

There are these long plastic strips and corners that are about 1/2 an inch thick that aren't mentioned in the instructions. They are designed to hide the tensioning bolts. They "snap" into a small groove in the back of the frame. The corners didn't line up at all. Luckily the mounting plates also screw into the corners and do a fine job of holding the corners down.

So then I called a friend to help me hang it on the wall and I was done. The end.


It is nice being able to watch my projector with lights on. it is a vast improvement from the wall. The screen is clearly retro-reflective. If I stand up on my couch the image is brighter. Not so much so that I think I need to raise my seating, though. The fall off from the seated position to literally anywhere in the downstairs in non-existant. It basically looks the same everywhere. Including standing at the wall the screen is on. I realize this wouldn't be true for projectors that are sitting on a table or that are closer to eye height.

Anyway, great "bang for the buck" and all that. There are some instances while you are putting this thing together where you will be thinking "Oh yeah this is a budget screen". But if you take your time and pay close attention to everything I did wrong, you'll like the finished product very much.

Very nice, refresh my memory, what sort of projector is that on? You said its the 2.4 white screen, right? How are black levels on that?

Well, : puts on holier than thou voice : I have a DLP projector: PE700

Actually, it is clear that the blacks are brighter but I think the ceiling mounting actually helps this. I do plan oh re-AVIA-ing to see if I can get it blacker without making a whole lot less brighter.

Thanks for the review! I think I may go with one of these!

just bought this in 106"

http://www.eastporters.com/usa/cart.php?target=category&category_id=77

just bought this in 106"

http://www.eastporters.com/usa/cart.php?target=category&category_id=77
:thumbs up:

Be sure to tell us your install story!

:thumbs up:

Be sure to tell us your install story!

definetly, I cant wait to get everything hooked up

Has anyone ordered the manual pull down screen? If so, could you post some comments/opinions on these screens?

Thanks!

I really have to add this:

The Eastporters guys are a class act. Aside from answering all of my annoying phone calls "Hey when are the new screens gonna be in" and "Hey what are the new screeens gonna be like" and "hey how much are the new screens gonna be?' and at least a dozen more phone calls...

Today while watching the Rutgers/Louisville game, I noticed an odd defect in the screen. It's tough to describe.. so I won't ;) It's like the reflective material is "dented". Now this is the most expensive screen they sell.

They are going to send me new material.

Wow. Class Act. No hoopla. No hoops for that matter.

If you are the fence about these guys, don't be. Get off of your fence and order the freakin' screen/projector/whatever. Do it. The internet is always open.

Any Sparkles, noise, or visible texture to the screen?

I don't have any sparklies or visible texture. I am not sure what "noise" would look like so I must not have any.

If I approach the screen so that I am less than a foot away I can see the sparklies. But I think this is related to being way off axis.

Hi, guy's my new replacement screen has come in , i have to pick that up tomorrow, Tony, before this i had a blackout cloth screen, I left the old one up and just lean the new one 2.4 gain white, against it , i was using batman HD dvd for test, there is a scene where they show a building in the city, well with blackout cloth the building was kind of grey in comparison with the new screen where it apears white, and the colours are more vibrant and they come to life, i was very very hapy with my old screen until i have seen this.

Six, you said ". Do it. The internet is always open." I guess you never go to BH Photo.com then. Im not on the fence as much as " I must of jumped over a fence, it ripped a hole in my pocket and all of my money fell out" I just need to get through christmas and then I can buy.

Do you know if they will send screen samples? I would really like to compare the 1.8 gray to the 2.4 white. Being higher gain I wonder if the blacks will really suffer *as* much.

I don't know if they do samples. But I'm about to have a whole lot of extra 2.4 material ;)

But to answer your question I think it depends on size. I got around to playing with the settings on my projector and the 2.4 gain is perfect. I think that at the same size the 1.8 would've killed the whites. Let me say this plainly: My blacks are just fine with the 2.4 white.

I think you should do the math to get fL and see what kind of number you get. I think if you are near 16 with the 1.8 grey you should be okay.

fL=lumens times gain then divided by the square feet of your image area

Of course the main assumptions you have to make is how many calibrated lumens your projector puts out. I am (assuming) I am getting (based on reviews) 450 lumens. So with the 2.4 white I am about 20 fL. With the grey I'd be at 15 fL. The wall was giving me around 8 fL

Then there would be the reduction in brightness for off axis viewing. Which, I am guessing is easily 15%

I then took into account that I want to use the lamp in economic mode to extend it's life and I ddi want to turn some lights on.
All that to say that while I initially thought I wanted the grey, the white made more sense to my application.

All that to bring me back to a question "What size screen are you thinking of getting and with which projector and are you going to change projectors in the near future?"

Well, I am really torn between 2.4 white and 1.8 Gray, 120" and I use a Sanyo Z3 projector, probably won't change for 1-3 years. I use economy bulb mode and I am using behr silverscreen paint with a poly / pearl / ss topcoat.

Most viewing is done at night, but, for afternoon movies I have to cover the windows in dining room with a comforter, I have the living room windows covered now.With my Graywolf, windows in other rooms were not an issue, ofcourse I went from 1.8 gain to (what I have been told to be ) .8

Anyone have any comments on just how "cleanable" the HD Cinema screens actually are? I am trying to decide between a fixed (which I would much prefer from a performance standpoint) versus pull down (due to the factor of my young children). My room that I am developing is going to be multi-purpose, with both my HT stuff and a play area for the kids, so there is some potential for the occasional sticky hand to make contact with the screen, particularly when we are not in the room.

Could someone comment on the 120'' white 1.4 gain pulldown Elunevision screens?? (ie. Brightness & how does it compare to the GWII) I'm interested in buying one for my Optoma HD6800 (Will have a PT-AX100 in the future) . Could someone also comment on shipping charges relatively??? I live in Calgary Alberta.

Somewhat light controlled apartment with blinds but I tend to leave them open right now with my 92'' GWII & the picture is still very acceptable.

I wish they had some pulldowns with gray materal as this would work better in a room with more ambient light.

Thanks!

Hey there. I have an IN72 to which I'm shooting the image on a 92" DIY BOC screen I made. The projector is table/shelf mounted behind my seating area ~ 13' away from my screen. I'm seated right in front of it at about 12'. Anyway, I think it's time for my to upgrade and get a more professional looking screen. I like the look of these EluneVision screens as the large velvet frame really looks nice. Anyway, I'm thinking of either getting the 1.2 white or the 1.1 gray and wanted your opinions / recommendations as to what I should get. Black levels are pretty important to me however, I don't want "dirty" whites which is what I'm afraid of if I get a gray screen. Also, what are these "sparkles" you guys speak of? I want to steer clear of any screen that might potentially produce those as I'm sure I would see them - haha. Anyway, I'm wanting to order one of these suckers pretty soon but I wanted to get all of your expert opinions beforehand.

Thanks!

You won't get sparklies on those screens because they aren't glass beaded.

However! If you were to get glass beaded screen you'd almost be assured of sparlies and hotspotting.

I think you'll really like the look of the screen but I'm not too sure tat it will improve your picture all too much over the BOC. Also, the general consensus (I believe) is that Matte White is better than grey, with DLP, in most situations.

The HD Vivid Pro Cinema White /Grey ARE glass beads impregnated, as stated in the specs.and there for are not to be cleaned.

http://www.eastporters.com/PDF/Elara/picking_material.pdf

I think you'll really like the look of the screen but I'm not too sure tat it will improve your picture all too much over the BOC. Also, the general consensus (I believe) is that Matte White is better than grey, with DLP, in most situations.

Thanks for the info. I didn't figure it would improve much however, I just wanted something that looking more professional and had the thick velvet borders without having to spend a ton of $$$. I guess I'll just go with the matte white.

The HD Vivid Pro Cinema White /Grey ARE glass beads impregnated, as stated in the specs.and there for are not to be cleaned.

Yes, I will likely try to steer clear of the Pro Cinema variety for that reason. I will need to control my ambient light to go with the lower gain screens, but I am thinking it will be worthwhile to do so in the long run (and relatively easy in my case with a basement set-up, with 2 smallish windows, north and west facing at the end of a fairly long room) . For the 1.1 and 1.2 gain HD Cinema screens, it states that "the surface can be cleaned", so again, my question is just how well do they clean up. Anyone have any experience with this?

Could someone comment on the 120'' white 1.4 gain pulldown Elunevision screens?? (ie. Brightness & how does it compare to the GWII) I'm interested in buying one for my Optoma HD6800 (Will have a PT-AX100 in the future) . Could someone also comment on shipping charges relatively??? I live in Calgary Alberta.

Somewhat light controlled apartment with blinds but I tend to leave them open right now with my 92'' GWII & the picture is still very acceptable.

I wish they had some pulldowns with gray materal as this would work better in a room with more ambient light.

Thanks!


BUMP! Any responses are appreciated.

-Thanks

The HD Vivid Pro Cinema White /Grey ARE glass beads impregnated, as stated in the specs.and there for are not to be cleaned.

http://www.eastporters.com/PDF/Elara/picking_material.pdf

so what happens when they get dusty. I just bought this one and now I'm worried

"Dusty" isn't technically "dirty" . I think you can take a lint roller to it.

I have a Optoma HD72. Anyone have this projector with A 120" screen. I am thinking of buying the 120" 1.8 gray fixed frame. Seating position will be about 15 feet back. Will this be a good combination?

Thanks

I have a Optoma HD72. Anyone have this projector with A 120" screen. I am thinking of buying the 120" 1.8 gray fixed frame. Seating position will be about 15 feet back. Will this be a good combination?

Thanks

I bought a 120'' white pulldown from eastporters to pair with my HD6800. I'm expecting it for the end of the week. Anyone else bought the 120'' manual pulldown from eastporters??

BUMP! Any responses are appreciated.

-Thanks
I just got the 106" 1.4 gain White Manual Pulldown. I am using a Panasonic ae900. They charged me $50 shipping (but I live in Ontario). Brightness is Good. I have a light controlled room and my projector is 16" from the screen and 6 off the ground on a shelf. I can't compare it directly to the GWII since I don't have one (though I know someone who has and who has the same projector as I do). I didn't like the GWII. If they were the same price I would still buy the one I have (I dislike the sparklies in the GW). The 106 I bought (they have it on sale for $84.99 + $50 for shipping) was cheap enough that I felt it wasn't much of a risk. I am happy with it.

Could someone comment on the 120'' white 1.4 gain pulldown Elunevision screens?? (ie. Brightness & how does it compare to the GWII) I'm interested in buying one for my Optoma HD6800 (Will have a PT-AX100 in the future) . Could someone also comment on shipping charges relatively??? I live in Calgary Alberta.

Somewhat light controlled apartment with blinds but I tend to leave them open right now with my 92'' GWII & the picture is still very acceptable.

I wish they had some pulldowns with gray materal as this would work better in a room with more ambient light.

Thanks!

I emailed eastporters and they told me they have the grey pulldowns, they just haven't had a chance to put them on the site yet. If you really want grey I say try contacting them.

I emailed eastporters and they told me they have the grey pulldowns, they just haven't had a chance to put them on the site yet. If you really want grey I say try contacting them.

Thanks cgl! I'm having a tough time deciding if I want to change my order now.... and get the 1.8 grey instead of the 1.4 white. I don't mind the sparklies on my GWII now but it would still be nice to have a nice natural looking screen with true bright colors. The only reason i'm considering the grey is because I live in an apartment and my light control involves closing the shades on the windows.

I bought the 106" grey, manual pull down screen about 1-2 weeks ago. They told me it just came in the day I was enquiring, so I decided to give it a whirl.

Eastporters told me that it was from the same factory, and was the same model as the GWII. So far, my projector has not been hung from the ceiling, which is where it will live, so my experience has not been as refelective (no pun intended), as it will be once I have it set up correctly.

My comments so far, based on using my PT-AX100 sitting oin a raised platform, about 48" from the floor....pretty good. Unfortunately, I have noting to compare it to, and am not 100% sure about the performance. The image seems to be quite nice on the blacks, but when white scenes come up, the sparkly glass beads make me a little crazy.

I am also having a difficult time with the retracting system....I have to pull and retract up to 10 times to get it to fully retract into the case. I can;t see this being normal....it's a real pain in the you know what.

I was told by Eastpoters that it was not a retro-reflective screen, and that my ceiling mounted projector was not going to suffer any performance issues....I'm second guessing that advice, as everything I have read about the GWII screens, suggest the opposite.

I purchased this screen based on reviews on the net, as well as the prpmise of increased blacks, and better performance in a less than 100% light controlled room.....I'm starting to wonder if I made the wrong choice? They advertise a 30 day money back gurantee (including shipping), and I'm starting to feel I may have to excercise that service.

So far, my dealings with the have been preety decent, and I have no inclination that they will give me any problems. I really wish they had a high gain white manual pull down, or even a light grey, non beaded screen.

CHIA

I bought the 106" grey, manual pull down screen about 1-2 weeks ago. They told me it just came in the day I was enquiring, so I decided to give it a whirl.

Eastporters told me that it was from the same factory, and was the same model as the GWII. So far, my projector has not been hung from the ceiling, which is where it will live, so my experience has not been as refelective (no pun intended), as it will be once I have it set up correctly.

My comments so far, based on using my PT-AX100 sitting oin a raised platform, about 48" from the floor....pretty good. Unfortunately, I have noting to compare it to, and am not 100% sure about the performance. The image seems to be quite nice on the blacks, but when white scenes come up, the sparkly glass beads make me a little crazy.

I am also having a difficult time with the retracting system....I have to pull and retract up to 10 times to get it to fully retract into the case. I can;t see this being normal....it's a real pain in the you know what.

I was told by Eastpoters that it was not a retro-reflective screen, and that my ceiling mounted projector was not going to suffer any performance issues....I'm second guessing that advice, as everything I have read about the GWII screens, suggest the opposite.

I purchased this screen based on reviews on the net, as well as the prpmise of increased blacks, and better performance in a less than 100% light controlled room.....I'm starting to wonder if I made the wrong choice? They advertise a 30 day money back gurantee (including shipping), and I'm starting to feel I may have to excercise that service.

So far, my dealings with the have been preety decent, and I have no inclination that they will give me any problems. I really wish they had a high gain white manual pull down, or even a light grey, non beaded screen.

CHIA

Chia,

Thanks for the report. I am in the same boat as you with myAX100 coming soon and looking for what I thought should be a grey screen. I too spoke with the Eastporters guys and they tried to downplay my concerns about retroreflectivity (I'll be going ceiling mount). I think your reports on the glass beading and the related effect along with the retracting issues is enough to have me continue my search. I'm looking for pull down due to WAF. In the interim I am building my own blackout cloth screen which has a light grey finish to it so that I can beta test the theory on grey vs. white screen. Otherwise I'm following the 25+ screen testing thread to see what the recommended choices turn out to be. After 2 yrs of research on the pj it seems that I'm back where I started in that making a choice of screen is just as confusing. I say test the 30 day money back guarantee.

ok got the screen and it looks amazing. The instructions are the worst instructions I've ever seen. The wall mounts are the most confusing thing I've ever dealt with in my life. I just couldnt understand them so I left them out. Luckily my step father is good with construction and is making different mounts.

If anyone knows how to set these mounts up with pics that would be great. Although it's too late to put them on now I'd just like to see it

I will be getting my 120'' white Elunevision Pulldown from eastporters either friday or monday & I will post my thoughts.

Thanks

I will be getting my 120'' white Elunevision Pulldown from eastporters either friday or monday & I will post my thoughts.

Thanks

Thanks....please let us know the projector model, and your mounting config too.

If anyone knows how to set these mounts up with pics that would be great. Although it's too late to put them on now I'd just like to see it

I second SollyD's request, Mount and assembly pics would be great. I'm contemplating a purchase and would like to see a little more detail.

You have to imagine that the wall mount plates are nothing more than to hang onto.

You screw your "whatever" (i used the wood screw that came in the packaging) into the wall and hang the screen up that way.

If you don't have a stud to go into, get better drywall anchors. the ones in the packaging are utter crap-ola.

I know you can't set stopping intervals but can you stop the screen travel wherever you want? I think I read somewhere in this post that you couldn't. It states that the electric screens come with 20" of blacked out screen on top and I just wanted to make sure that you could adjust the screen height to align with a ceiling mounted projector. Both remotes clearly show a stop button but I'm asking anyway. Also, anyone noticing the edges curling up yet on any ceiling mounted screens (manual or electric) or any waves or creases? I'm just wondering if these screens are 3-ply fiberglass or not. I'd like to get an electric tensioned screen but they cost more than the Z5 I'm looking at. Finally, what are folks paying for shipping to the US? I live in Chicago, IL. Thanks and keep the reviews coming. :D

You have to imagine that the wall mount plates are nothing more than to hang onto.

You screw your "whatever" (i used the wood screw that came in the packaging) into the wall and hang the screen up that way.

If you don't have a stud to go into, get better drywall anchors. the ones in the packaging are utter crap-ola.

yeah we used anchors, drilled right through the corners of the screen and mounted it with drywall screws and anchors. The silver screw is visible but I am gonna put a dot on black fabric over it. Cant even notice and this thing doesnt move, way better to mount it this way because it's perfectly flat and flush with the wall.

I'm so thankful my step dad is in construction or I'd be screwed lol

I'm thinking of getting the 2.4 Gain 106" for use with a Z2, and also considering a 92" for an X1. Quick question (I haven't checked the website for this) How must do they weight (more importantly the 106")?

I'm thinking of getting the 2.4 Gain 106" for use with a Z2, and also considering a 92" for an X1. Quick question (I haven't checked the website for this) How must do they weight (more importantly the 106")?

fixed frame or pull down

I'd say the fixed fram is like 40 lbs maybe less actually. Between 30-40 maybe

Packing List has my fixed frame 106" at 33lbs.. Shipping to USA was $50 (asked in previous post).

I have a Z3 with the 2.4 gain white 106" Fixed frame....PM me if you have any questions.

anyone using an optoma HD72 with the EluneVision High Definition Vivid Pro grey screen (Fixed Frame). I will be ceiling mounting mine. Just looking for some feed back on this combination. I understand you will lose some gain by ceiling mounting it, but not that much. Also looking at the lower gain grey screen too. If anyone have that with the HD72 I would also like to hear some feed back. Trying to decide which screen will be the best for this projector.

fixed frame or pull down

I'd say the fixed fram is like 40 lbs maybe less actually. Between 30-40 maybe

Sorry about that.. That would be Fixed frame (no more pull down for me).. I was just concerned with what type of wall anchors to use.

Thanks

Can anyone with a manual pull down screen comment on whether there are noticable waves?

Thanks!

Can anyone with a manual pull down screen comment on whether there are noticable waves?

Thanks!

I have the new grey high gain pull down they recently listed on their site....so far so good.....supposed to be a GWII in disguise.

I just recieved the 106" High gain Grey screen today. I am using it with the HD72 and I am very pleased with the picture. One thing I did not like was the frame. I have gaps at every joint and the mounting hardware was crap the screws they gave me were too long. Anyone else have the problem with the gaps at the joints.

No problems with the joints here on 92", be patient with aligning the screws, they do fit and everything goes together, but you need patience. I would email them with any concerns you have and they'll take care of you, great customer service.

Does anyone know about the Mustang screens? Or Elunevision manual pull-downs? I'm wondering if the pulldown works ok. I cannot do a fixed screen at this time so I'm looking for an interim cheap screen until I build the theater.
Thanks for any leads on inexpensive elec or manual pulldowns

I just recieved the 106" High gain Grey screen today. I am using it with the HD72 and I am very pleased with the picture. One thing I did not like was the frame. I have gaps at every joint and the mounting hardware was crap the screws they gave me were too long. Anyone else have the problem with the gaps at the joints.

my step father and I just put screws through each corner to mount it. By gaps do you mean where the screen hits the frame in each corner?

I have had a 120'' Elunevision white pulldown screen for a couple days now. It is well worth the money. First off, I am noticing waves on the screen already but I believe most of it is due to my inbalanced mount job which I will be correcting. The waves are not noticeable when watching a movie. Its retracting system is not the quality I hoped for as you basically have to feed it back into the casing but it is quite easy to do. Overall fairly good screen... has some build quality issues but once its on the wall.... no worries. Well worth the $$ & I recommend for people just looking for an affordable great looking screen.

There were gaps in the corners where the frame miters join, but they tightened up when I loosen the tension on the screen. But there is a gap between the fram and the screen all the way around. Doesn't bother me because it the same size gap all the way around. I notice on alot of different type of manufactured screens it doesn't have the gap.., What is this from.

anyone know how to clean this these screens. I think i may have a few little finger prints on mine that can only be seen in extremely bright scenes.

Guys does anyone have this screen: 92" EluneVision High Definition Vivid Pro-Cinema Grey Fixed Frame Screen - 16:9 with the HD70 projector????

anyone know how to clean this these screens. I think i may have a few little finger prints on mine that can only be seen in extremely bright scenes.

I'd like an answer to that as well. I have a streak right across the middle that shows up during bright scenes...i tried warm soapy water but it didn't budge it. Was afraid to try anything any harsher than that without checking first. I have their 1.1 gray screen btw.

I'd like an answer to that as well. I have a streak right across the middle that shows up during bright scenes...i tried warm soapy water but it didn't budge it. Was afraid to try anything any harsher than that without checking first. I have their 1.1 gray screen btw.

yeah I'm scared to try anything on the screen

Well here are the pictures for those who just want to see pictures (http://web.mac.com/theblackmanfamily/iWeb/Our%20family/New%20Screen.html)

Here is the story:

So it finally arrived! Well, it only felt like "finally". I think total time was about a week. I ordered the 135" 2.4 gain white.

The product is packaged well and I took my time opening all the parts because that is what I do.

Assembly was a little taxing as there are things you need to do that aren't in the instructions. For starters the tensioning screws part of the instructions read "7 in the long side and 5 in the short side" but for this screen it is 10 in the long side and 6 in the short side. I realized I had "extras" and unrolled the screen to see how many holes were in the border. It was a good thing I did.

Speaking of the screen, it has an odor to it that lingers for awhile. If you are sensitive to smells, open a window.

Another little tidbit that is not in the instructions (actually I think this is in the instructions it just might be translated poorly) is the use of some small hex nuts that are inserted into the frame. They will eventually be to hang the screen with. They also act as more reinforcement for the corners.

Soeaking of the corners be careful with the corner braces. They are plastic and will break. I know. I broke one. There are about three reasons why I didn't breakdown and cry and scream and call Eastporters for another one. First, I broke it. Second the corners are also held together by the metal plates and by the sheer tension of the screen. And lastly, I didn't want to wait for another one to show up. In that regard, I was a little impatient.

The corner bracing does, however, leave a lot to be desired. The pre-drilled holes in the aluminum of the frame are designed to line up with metal inserts in the plastic. It is simple: You place the corner braces in the frame and then screw it all together with allen-head bolts.

If I have any advice to give you: Skip this step. The corner braces are just that: braces. Trying to line up the holes with the braces was tedious and downright difficult. For the most part I simply strong-armed the bolts into the inserts since they weren't lining up perfectly. I ended up breaking one of the corner braces because I tried to pull one side out. It was clearly my fault. Torque is a killer... a killer! But as I thought about it the screen is going to ultimately hold the frame together.

edit: So to be clear, insert the corner braces but don't screw them in.

So then after you get the frame all done, it is time for the screen material. Or course you have to roll it out and insert nice long rods into it. I only bring this step up because you need lots of space. Be sure you have room to actually do this. I also disliked this step because as you are pushing the rod through the pocket, it likes to come up through the slits (holes) for the tensioning screws.

So then you slide the tensioning screws into place so that they line up with the slits in the screen material. Then you tighten them. The actual instructions read something like "tighten until there are no waves or wrinkles. This is actually a step I screwed up on. I jut kept tightening and tightening and the middle of my long rails bows a little.

There are these long plastic strips and corners that are about 1/2 an inch thick that aren't mentioned in the instructions. They are designed to hide the tensioning bolts. They "snap" into a small groove in the back of the frame. The corners didn't line up at all. Luckily the mounting plates also screw into the corners and do a fine job of holding the corners down.

So then I called a friend to help me hang it on the wall and I was done. The end.


It is nice being able to watch my projector with lights on. it is a vast improvement from the wall. The screen is clearly retro-reflective. If I stand up on my couch the image is brighter. Not so much so that I think I need to raise my seating, though. The fall off from the seated position to literally anywhere in the downstairs in non-existant. It basically looks the same everywhere. Including standing at the wall the screen is on. I realize this wouldn't be true for projectors that are sitting on a table or that are closer to eye height.

Anyway, great "bang for the buck" and all that. There are some instances while you are putting this thing together where you will be thinking "Oh yeah this is a budget screen". But if you take your time and pay close attention to everything I did wrong, you'll like the finished product very much.

6KoW,

Thx so much!! Your detailed info helped me greatly. Eastporters definitely need to work on their instructions. Personnally, all they have to do is update them and post them on the website. I'm sure folks wouldn't mind printing out an accurate set of instructions.

Two questions for you:

- how did you overcome the broken corner braces? I broke one clean in half and I'm wondering if it will affect the screen later
- were your wall mount screws too long to secure the wall plate to the frame.

6KoW,

Thx so much!! Your detailed info helped me greatly. Eastporters definitely need to work on their instructions. Personnally, all they have to do is update them and post them on the website. I'm sure folks wouldn't mind printing out an accurate set of instructions.

Two questions for you:

- how did you overcome the broken corner braces? I broke one clean in half and I'm wondering if it will affect the screen later
- were your wall mount screws too long to secure the wall plate to the frame.

to answer your question, my step father and I screwed an L bracket in the corner to hold the two pieces together and it works great

to answer your question, my step father and I screwed an L bracket in the corner to hold the two pieces together and it works great


Thanks SollyD...did your technique put a hole in the velvet?

Well, got it fixed w/ a run to Lowes. I had to buy some M6-1.00 x12 (metric) to attach the wall mounts to the frame.

That secured the corners. Now I just have to mount on the wall.

Thanks SollyD...did your technique put a hole in the velvet?
no we used screws just long enough to go through the metal.

here are some screen shot of the EluneVision Vivid HD Gray 1.8 Gain screen (106" Fixed Frame) with a optoma HD72 projector ceiling mount. Pictures takin at eye level of seating position. I am pretty happy with this screen, you will notice minor sparklies on bright white images, but at my seating position 14FT it won't really bother you. As for hot spotting, none. I find the image to be still bright when side viewing (width of room over 20 FT).

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/RawB8figure/IMG_0650.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/RawB8figure/IMG_0648.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/RawB8figure/IMG_0649.jpg

RawB8,

Nice looking setup.

I just got an Elune Vision screen, I ordered a white screen but they sent me a gray one. I have already contacted them and they are sending me the white as that is what I ordered. In the mean time, however, I went ahead and hung the gray screen to see how it performed since I have never viewed on a gray. I researched and research trying to decide which screen to get (white or gray). Anyway, I have a question and it might have been answered already but I am seeing what I call the actaul texture of the screen on bright white scenes. The above poster mentioned about sparklies, and I wonder if that's what I'm seeing. Also, I have no idea what gain the screen is that I received, whether it's the 1.1 gray or the 1.8 gray, is there anyway of me telling one from the other so I know which I have? Is this anomoly that I'm experiencing something inherent with gray screens. I am coming from a BOC DIY screen, I never noticed this before. The white screen they are sending me is supposed to be the 1.2 matte white, if I move to that will it do away with these sparklies? I only ask because I wasn't sure if it was the gray causing the effect or the texture of the screen itself. Thanks!

RawB8figure,

In your shot of the screen it doesn't look very grey. Is that photo accurate?

I have a DIY screen now and would like to get a manual screen that would improve the picture. I have tested some samples from Da Lite and Draper. I like how white screens keep the whites white and do good colors. I also like how a light gray screen improves the blacks but it crushes the whites some. So I was thinking if I could find a screen that is a light gray with gain it might help keep the whites from being crushed while increasing the black levels.

The projector is a AE900 and it's mounted high on the wall so it's like a ceiling mount. This is a temporary location until I can make a room in the basement. The walls are a light color and I have light control.

its a light grey, but the flash was on in that pic, so that is why it looks so white.

its a light grey, but the flash was on in that pic, so that is why it looks so white.

So do you find it increases the blacks and still does a good job with the whites?

Yes I find that the black levels have increased and still does a decent job on the whites

RawB8figure could you post the original sized photos of the movie stills somewhere, unfortunately the pictures as I see them are a bit fuzzy. I'm assuming the camera you took them with has much higher resolution. Thanks :)

Raw, what kind of speakers are those? The tag in the front looks like a JBL tag?

lynx01- that is the biggest I could get the pics, The image in person is way better.

Chadci- check out my system specs here;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9143071#post9143071

RawB8figure, I was wondering if you know how the EluneVision HD Vivid Cinema Pro Grey compares to the Da Lite high contrast matt white in realation to the gray color. Do you know if it is darker, lighter or about the same shade of gray?

Ahh, very cool. I thought they were JBL! I have a full Jbl sound system myself and I am really suprised at how well they preform for the amount I paid for them. I have no problem stating that I like them better than the Klipsch speakers I paid well over double the cost of the jbl. I loved the Klipsch speakers when I had them they were just way too bright.

I have the Ec35 center with 30's as my mains but I have been thinking about throwing those on the sides, my 20's ( which are sides now) in the back and using my 10's elsewhere and picking up a set of 50's to replace the 30's. I would just like to have 3 ways across the front.

buck351- never had a screen before this one, first HT

new to the forum - Eastporters lists the 106" White 1.4 EluneVision for $80 (pull down) and the 106" Grey 1.8 EluneVision HD ProCinema (pull down) for $160 . At these prices I'm thinking they're close to DIY screen material I was considering (melamine, BOC or Parkland) - I have a light controlled small dedicated HT (12x14) with ceiling mounted an Optoma HD70 - I'm thinking of using the material and mount it on my DIY frame (probably stapled on wood frame) - is this a good idea? has anyone done this yet and what were the results. Thanks for the input.

- were your wall mount screws too long to secure the wall plate to the frame.

the wall mount screws are the correct length. The screen ships with some thin plastic pieces... there are four corner pieces, two short, two long. They need to be arranged in the correct order and then tapped into the outer 'thin' slot around the outisde of the back of the frame. The four metal wall brackets go over top of these plastic pieces, and then the screws are the correct length.

I think the plastic pieces are there to provide enough stand-off distance from the wall for the new screen tensioning system this screen uses, as compared to the old screens.

There is absolutely NO mention of this in the instructions, and in fact the Eastporter guy I called to ask about these plastic bits told me to just throw them out!

The instructions are sooo bad you could not follow them and put the screen together correctly by doing so.

GB

GB's instructions to put together the new screens:

1) lay screen rails out, upside down
2) insert tensioners into rails as per instructions
3) insert metric nuts into rails... they can be worked around a corner afterwards, FWIW. The instructions I have shows a couple of the nuts in place (in the correct slot) but doesn't actually tell you to insert them.
4) insert corner plastic pieces and assemble frame rails
5) fiddle endlessly with arrangement until you can get the screws through the holes in the frame rails and into the plastic corner "L" pieces... this was the most frustrating part for me. I ended up having to slightly open up a couple of the holes in the aluminum rails to get the screws to be seated. The included washers go with these screws, which is a good thing as you might need to make the holes bigger ;)
6) insert metal rods into screen, carefully. Lie screen face down inside of frame rails, black side up. tension screen... do not over tension, just enough to get rid of waves.
7) collect plastic bits and arrange around upside down screen. Each piece has a thin edge protrusion which can be tapped/rammed into the very thin slot at the outside edge of the frame rails. The two long and short pieces are not quite long enough to actually reach the corner pieces, but the corner pieces have some 'overhang' which will reach the edge pieces provided the edge pieces are reasonably centered in the frame rails. Tap/Ram pieces in place. Be prepared to do much retapping as pieces tend to 'bounce out'.
8) screw four metal corner pieces/wall hangers into place, using the metric screws which match the metric nuts you previously inserted into the rails... three screw per wall hanger. The screws are the correct length if you use the plastic pieces in step 7. Two of these hangers are used to actually hang the frame, the others simply hold the corners together.
9) get some decent wallboard hangers... the included ones are crap.

FWIW, the 'velvet coating' seems to shed somewhat. It makes a bit of a mess, and I was glad that my screen was one of the beaded ones, as it needs a good wipe down afterwards. I don't know how you'd get a beaded screen together with getting black stuff all over it.

Overall, the screen is still a tremendous value. IMHO. Just be prepared to fiddle a bit.

GB

Hi guys, new to the forum and frankly I'm a little overwhelmed with info.

Here's my setup...I'm currently in the middle of finishing my basement but I have purchased the Sanyo Z5 and plan to hang it from ceiling (white tile drop ceiling which should be interesting) but wandering kiddies make this a necessity. I've got a long narrow room 20' L x 10' W. The room will have dark grey painted walls when I'm done. Due to the duct work along the ceiling, I'm not 100% sure I can do a fixed frame option so I'm considering a pulldown. I like the idea of the electric but I'm not sure it's worth the extra $$$ but I'm also concerned about the edge waviness and now the ceiling sparkly effect). Also, I'm completely lost on what model to get (grey/white, HD vivid pro or HD cinema grey). Given that the Z5 is 1100 lumen, I was leaning toward the 106" HD Vivid pro cinema Grey motorized one??? However then I read that they are difficult to clean and in a basement (100% light controlled), this may not be a good choice. Anyone have any suggestions for a real newbie to the projection world?

Any opinions are greatly appreciated!!!

How would the 106" gray vivid 1.8 work with a Sanyo Z5? Or is it better go with a white screen?

I have several posts on this screen with my ceiling mounted projector....read them for my opinion.......

Anyone in the BC Lower Mainland who wants a 106", I'd sell it.

Reviews by CRT owners with this screen would be sweeet!!

Running a 120" with my vidikron... looks great. I also have one in the master bedroom with an Infocus LP530 DLP and its really sharp.

Hi guys, new to the forum and frankly I'm a little overwhelmed with info.

Here's my setup...I'm currently in the middle of finishing my basement but I have purchased the Sanyo Z5 and plan to hang it from ceiling (white tile drop ceiling which should be interesting) but wandering kiddies make this a necessity. I've got a long narrow room 20' L x 10' W. The room will have dark grey painted walls when I'm done. Due to the duct work along the ceiling, I'm not 100% sure I can do a fixed frame option so I'm considering a pulldown. I like the idea of the electric but I'm not sure it's worth the extra $$$ but I'm also concerned about the edge waviness and now the ceiling sparkly effect). Also, I'm completely lost on what model to get (grey/white, HD vivid pro or HD cinema grey). Given that the Z5 is 1100 lumen, I was leaning toward the 106" HD Vivid pro cinema Grey motorized one??? However then I read that they are difficult to clean and in a basement (100% light controlled), this may not be a good choice. Anyone have any suggestions for a real newbie to the projection world?

Any opinions are greatly appreciated!!!

I too am interested in any opinions ......
I have a light controlled dedicated room and can't decide what screen would suit it better, the 106 HD Vivid pro Grey motorized or the white. Projector is the panasonic PT-AX100