Hey guys,

I just purchased a 42" LCD and hence needed component cables for my Gamecube and decided it was time to freshen up my library with some new games. In the spirit of this forum and the search for a better quality picture and surround sound gaming I started doing a little research. I was not satisfied with some of the HD gaming websites and found their data lacking and incomplete. I compiled data from Nintendo.com, VideoGameDB.com, HDTVArcade.com, HDTV Technologies & HDGames.net. Attached is an excel spreadsheet that contains all the games I was able to find that are either 480p, presented in Dolby Prologic or Prologic II or offer a 16x9 aspect ratio. Some games are even THX Certified....not really sure what the standard is for that on a video game :) The columns are easily sortable using the tabs, just choose the 'x' and it will limit it to games that support that particular technology.

Some stats:
Total Gamecube Games listed at Nintendo.com: 539
Total Games on List: 231
Games on my List not at Nintendo.com: 8
% of Games that offer Enhanced Video Gaming of some sort: ~ 42%

480p Games: 177 = ~ 32%

16x9 Games: 65 = ~ 12%

Dolby PL/PLII: 134 = ~ 24%

THX Certified: 4 = ~ 1%

If you have more information to add, please post any adds/corrections in this thread and I will update the spreadsheet as needed. Enjoy everyone!!

Download here: Nintendo Gamecube Games - 480p, 16x9 & PLII.xls (http://www.missingremote.com/images/stories/Nintendo/nintendo%20gamecube%20games%20-%20480p%2C%2016x9%20%26%20plii.xls)

Great info.

Thanks for this. I noticed that HDTVArcade was getting outdated. Might I suggest you lock the first row (freeze panes)? It makes the list more readable when scrolling. It's not hard for someone to do it themselves but it would be nice if it was on by default. :)

Additions:
Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix is 480p with PLII and 2 players
Mario Party 7 is 480p with PLII and 8 players
Chibi Robo is 480p with PLII and 1 player

Good idea...updated....maybe this is worth a sticky too :)

Just found another helpful resource...
http://hdgames.net/

Updated to reflect the info at hdgames.net

Updated with Kev's inputs

Just a note: some games are PL some are PLII...both get an X in the same column.

I'll try to keep the stats up top up to date but I'll probably get lazy :)

The one thing I really need help on is 16x9 or not...this seems to be the most iffy one people are reporting on.

Good idea...updated....maybe this is worth a sticky too :)
Sure thing.

I am pretty sure that SW: Clone Wars does NOT support progressive scan.

Starcraft: Ghost definitely supports nothing, since the GCN version is cancelled.

Review of the gamecube version of SW: Clone Wars

http://www.theforce.net/videogames/reviews/clonewarsreview-mark.asp

One thing I was pleased to see (something other developers are regularly forgetting about), is the inclusion of progressive scan support as well as the previously mentioned Dolby Pro Logic II. For those who have the right TV and speaker setup, you can be guaranteed of a great experience here, especially while in the heat of battle with blaster fire flying past your eyes and ears.

I'll update Ghost tonight...I guess that'd be why I wasn't able to find that game in the Nintendo.com db :)

Hmm... I have never seen the prog scan option come up, but I will check myself after work and let you know for sure. :)

Some games don't ask you to reconfirm after you change the setting once...but the whole list is definitly hearsay....i can only confirm about a dozen games personally :)

SW: Clone Wars definitely does NOT support 480p. Confirmed just now. That review is wrong.

cool....that's why we're doing it here. so we can get some real feedback

how about 16x9 or Dolby PLII?

Spreadsheet updated...I'll be on vacation for the next week :) so go ahead and post updates and I'll make all the necessary changes when I get back.

ProLogic 2 = Yes
16:9 = I think so. There is a "widescreen" mode, so I suppose that's what it's for. However, I have a 4:3 TV and I have the widescreen option set cause it gives me more of a wide view. (??)

Sounds proper to me if it has the setting....that's what I really want to represent with the middle column...games that allow you to choose widescreen.

Does anyone know if any games have widescreen auto enable when using progressive scan? Or is it always a menu option?

I thought I had a game that went to auto widescreen on progressive scan but after going through my games this weekend I can say the few that I have all use menu options.

At least by going through my games I have some updates for the list. :)

The Gameboy Player has progressive scan support (though it's not technically a game).
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing is THX certified.
NHL 2003 supports Dolby Surround (not PL though).

Super Monkey Ball 2 has no DLPII logo on the case and no option for surround in the sound settings. However, the official site (among other places) say this game has PLII support.

I noticed that James Bond 007: Nightfire is listed as having a widescreen mode, but I cannot figure out how to turn that on at all.

Is it 16x9 widescreen? or is it 4:3 widescreen? I turned on the "widescreen" option in the menu, but it didn't make any difference. Is it only in certain game modes or something?

Super Mario Strikers is 480p, widescreen, and has Dolby PLII. Not a bad game either. It reminds me of Sega Soccer Slam.

Updated with the latest info....I'll take a look at nightfire this weekend and see if I can figure anything out.

I've been having some problems activating progressive scan on my dell 2405FPW 24" monitor. I have the composite cables from Lik-Sang and the picture looks better and crisper, but I checked the picture setting and it's still interlacing (480i). I know you have to hold B when you power up until the option comes up to make it work, and I've tried that on Wind Waker, Rebel Strike and F-Zero, and I haven't gotten any option to switch to progressive scan.

Whenever I start up a game it still asks me to choose between 60Hz and 50Hz though... I'm not sure if that's a seperate issue or not but there you go.

Can anyone help me out?

I have the composite cables from Lik-Sang

Composite...or component?

Composite is one cable for video and two for audio. Component is three cables plugged into the Digital A/V Out port for video and the audio still runs from the old analog jack.

For some reason it's letting you choose between PAL and NTSC, I've never seen that happen before and my LCD supports both /shrug

Ah yes sorry I meant component. Damn why do they both have to start with 'compo'? :)

Yeah it's strange, could it be that my monitor only supports interlacing?

"Supported EDTV and HDTV Resolutions: 1080i pixels"

EDIT: Hmm no I found this letter, the monitor should support 480p on component:

Hi Jeff, George,

The Dell 2405FPW is not a HD-Ready or HDTV LCD monitor.

Used with a desktop PC or notebook PC with the correct graphics card and drivers, will display up to a maximum of 1920 x 1200 pixels (WUXGA) resolution.

The built-in AV connectors allow for –

1) Composite Video input à connection with a VCR or any AV equipment with a composite video output

2) S-Video input à connection to a VCR, VCD or DVD player or any AV equipment with a S-Video output

3) Component Video input à connection to a DVD player or any AV equipment with component (Red, Green & Blue) video output

The highest AV resolution is via the Component Video input which supports up to 480i (i = interlaced) and 480i (p = progressive scan) i.e. SDTV standard

HD-Ready (i.e. monitor without HD Tuner/Receiver) and HDTV resolution starts from 720p and 1080i

Rgds,

Andrew
I'm assuming that the second 480i is a typo.

DDR Mario Mix is listed as having PLII support on many websites. However, the in-game options show mono or stereo. Also, I don't see the Dolby logo anywhere on the game packaging or in the manual.

Do you have a reciever with PLII? If so try listening to see if you can hear distinct movement of sound from front to back (after choosing stereo) then it supports it. If it sounds like the same sound front and back then it doesn't.

Just be glad you have DDR Mario Mix. This game is impossible to find now, and has been for months!

It's be rereleased on May 16th :) I'm looking forward to it.

Do you have a reciever with PLII? If so try listening to see if you can hear distinct movement of sound from front to back (after choosing stereo) then it supports it. If it sounds like the same sound front and back then it doesn't.

Yep, I've got PLII. I didn't notice any surround effects but I'll check again tonight.

I missed my chance to get this game last year so when I saw it at Wal-Mart on the weekend I grabbed the last one. I've also seen one at Future Shop and Best Buy. I guess the new shipment is selling out quickly too.

I played some more DDR Mario tonight and paid attention to the sound. It seems more like dual stereo than surround to me. Can anyone else comment?

I wrote to Nintendo about DDR Mario Mix. I know I'm putting too much time into this but now I'm just curious. :)


Hello,
I have searched forums and the Internet and I cannot find a definitive answer to my question: Does Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix support Dolby ProLogic II? A lot of websites say yes. However, the game doesn't have a surround option and the packaging itself doesn't have any mention of Dolby at all.
I love the game and don't have any problems. I'm just wondering about the sound.
Thanks for great products!
Kevin


And here's what the Nintendo Rep replied:

Message(#6851-000496-8245\4968245)

Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,

Good question. I checked, and it doesn't look like Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix supports Dolby Pro Logic 2. I hope this helps!

By the way, for official information about our products, feel free to visit our website at www.nintendo.com.

Thank you for your e-mail.
Nintendo of America Inc.
Nicolas Ramu

i'll update tonight

:thumbsup: for persistance :)

posted update

Thanks for maintaining this list - its the best one I've seen for the Cube.

I see you have the first 2 Prince of Persia games listed but not Two Thrones (the 3rd). Do you know if it supports widescreen? I've read that it does on the PS2 and PC but I can't find the info for the Cube. I prefer the PoP games on the Cube but I'll get it for the PC if it doesn't support WS.

I wasn't able to find any specs on the 'Two Thrones'....anyone else?

I was wondering, how do you connect through component cables when the cable that came with the gamecube is composite? Do you have to buy a converter or a seperate cable or just plug the composite cables into the component input on the tv?

Yes you have to buy them...check ebay.

Yes you have to buy them...check ebay.
Also, to use the component cable you need an old Gamecube with a "Digital AV Out" port. Nintendo stopped making GCs with that port in 2004.

Also, to use the component cable you need an old Gamecube with a "Digital AV Out" port. Nintendo stopped making GCs with that port in 2004.

thanx, so what exactly is the name or type of cable i am looking for? Like an AV to component cable?

just search for "gamecube component cables" on ebay

here's an example of a hit

currently at $66 with 14 hours left....damn

can paste the stupid big links :(


www.lik-sang.com carries it usually but seems to be out of stock
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=76&products_id=1468&

Does anyone have or ever had the Pelican Universal HD System Selector? If so, was the quality of the Gamecube good? Gamestop has this and I want to get it if the quality is good.

thanx, so what exactly is the name or type of cable i am looking for? Like an AV to component cable?
"Component cable for the Gamecube" is the only designation I know about. One end plugs into the GC Digital AV Out and the other has the standard rgb component connectors. Rumor has it that the cable contains a digital-analog converter of a peculiar sort, making Nintendo the sole source for this part.

I hear the cables can be had on ebay, but they're quite expensive. Despite the fact that Nintendo lists them as discontinued, it might be worthwhile phoning Nintendo customer service every week or so. Or maybe you'd think about buying a Wii next Fall to play GC games on that.

It's a rather irritating situation.

Does anyone have or ever had the Pelican Universal HD System Selector? If so, was the quality of the Gamecube good? Gamestop has this and I want to get it if the quality is good.
I believe there was a review in our sister forum "General Gaming Help". The bottom line is you will lose resolution from an HD signal switched through the device, according to the review.

I don't know yet if it has 480p but "Serious Sam: Next Encounter" has 16:9. I think it has PLII as well but I need to check.

Out of town for the week, I'll update the chart when I get back.

If most major GameCube games support 480p, 16x9, and Pro Logic 2, then you can assume that Twilight Princess will support all those on the Cube version, right? So then why are so many people mad that the Cube version wont have those features while the Wii one will?

It's already been said that the GameCube version of Twilight Princess won't have widescreen.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/wii-twilight-princess-in-widescreen-gamecube-in-4-3/

It's already been said that the GameCube version of Twilight Princess won't have widescreen.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/wii-twilight-princess-in-widescreen-gamecube-in-4-3/

Ah, i must have missed that article. Nintendo probably did this to draw more customers to the Wii. I will buy the Wii regardless.

There's too much news to keep track of everything. That's why you have us. :)

Need For Speed: Most Wanted
-480p
-16:9
-DPLII
-2 players

just search for "gamecube component cables" on ebay

here's an example of a hit

currently at $66 with 14 hours left....damn

can paste the stupid big links :(


www.lik-sang.com carries it usually but seems to be out of stock
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=76&products_id=1468&

I suppose this is a bad time to mention that two years ago I found a used GCN component cable at GS for $5. At the time, I actually mulled the decision whether to buy it or not. :rolleyes:

Does "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell" do 480p? Its box has the progressive logo, and it's given as having 480p in the databases at hdgames.net and HDTV Arcade. Yet I can't get 480p out of it -- I've tried two copies. (I have lots of 480p GC games; no problem with the others.)

Does "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell" do 480p? Its box has the progressive logo, and it's given as having 480p in the databases at hdgames.net and HDTV Arcade. Yet I can't get 480p out of it -- I've tried two copies. (I have lots of 480p GC games; no problem with the others.)

It's even listed as a 480p / PLII game on nintendo.com....anyone else have this game?

Updated with the last few updates I was lazy about.

It's even listed as a 480p / PLII game on nintendo.com....anyone else have this game?
Never mind; it was me. I jammed in the component cable connection to my GC a little tighter, and now "Splinter Cell" gives 480p with no problem. Maybe some corrosion or looseness.

Sweet list thanks - just ordered a component cable off e&ay - darn expensive sucker. Got new LCD TV and hooking up sons gamecube to component will hopefully improve the picture vs. the composite picture I'm getting now.

And it looks like super monkey ball 2 (one of our favorites!) is 480p AND 16:9 compatible - AWESOME!

Thanks again.

I'm a little lost here. It appears none of my games are 16x9. But they fill up the whole screen on both my HD sets that are 16x9 without looking stretched. Is there something that I'm missing?

They are being stretched by your tv, it's just that games are often cartoony so the stretching is less noticeable. Put it side by side with a 4x3 tv and you'll be able to see it.

I've found some games actually look better stretched. I can only play Metroid Prime 1&2 stretched to 16:9 now. It just looks wrong at its original aspect ratio. I kind of wonder if they designed it that way.

I wasn't able to find any specs on the 'Two Thrones'....anyone else?

POP: The Two Thrones
-480p
-NOT 16:9
-DPLII
-1 player

I picked it up this weekend for a mere $20 CAD. Good game for the price. I really like the new POP games (and the old ones too).

FYI, I was pleasantly surprised to discover that Lego Star Wars II for the GCN not only runs in 480p but also supports widescreen. LucasArts didn't have to include these goodies, but kudos to them for doing so. ALMOST makes me want to forgive them for getting out of the point & click adventure business. :mad:

Can someone confirm that Harry Potter: Prisoner of Azkaban supports progressive scan? The master database says it does, but it doesn't say so on the box.

By the way, Blockbuster - Game Rush now has NGC Battalion Wars (prog. and widescreen) for $9.99.

Nintendo was my source:
http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=a5e67895-c91e-4987-b71e-c31a8d1d0949

Thanks.

Edit: I bought and tried Prisoner of Azkaban for the GC. Despite what the Nintendo magazine says, it's not 480p. Not widescreen, either.

Are you planning to create and maintain a similar list for the Wii? It might not be necessary since most games will be 480p widescreen. But it would be handy to some I think.

Are you planning to create and maintain a similar list for the Wii? It might not be necessary since most games will be 480p widescreen. But it would be handy to some I think.

Might actually be easier to track which games AREN'T 16:9/480p for the Wii. All first party titles will be. Of third party titles, I know Trauma Center: Second Opinion is 480p but not widescreen.

Also, to use the component cable you need an old Gamecube with a "Digital AV Out" port. Nintendo stopped making GCs with that port in 2004.

so for those of us who have a newer GC (got mine in Nov. '05), we're pretty much out of luck and are stuck w/composite, right? i just got a 46" LCD TV and tried Metroid Prime on it and it looked horrible! :mad:

they do have S-video cables available, will that help the situation any?

so for those of us who have a newer GC (got mine in Nov. '05), we're pretty much out of luck and are stuck w/composite, right? i just got a 46" LCD TV and tried Metroid Prime on it and it looked horrible! :mad:

they do have S-video cables available, will that help the situation any?
Yes, you're pretty much out of luck. Nintendo once offered to replace GCs with older refurbished ones with the digital port, but even if that offer is still good, it still leaves you with the problem of getting a component cable.

I have compared component output to S-video, and component is lots better for games with 480p output. I didn't think S-video looked very good. I haven't compared composite with S-video, but I've seen several others comment that S-video is considerably better.

i guess the work around would be to play GC games on the Wii w/component cables, right? that should improve how GC games look on my tv, right?

i guess the work around would be to play GC games on the Wii w/component cables, right? that should improve how GC games look on my tv, right?

Definitely. You'll get 480p and 16:9.

You know, not that it matters too much anymore, but I remember Metroid Prime 2 (I had the original Prime before my HD monitor so I'm not sure about that one) had an option to horizontally stretch and compress the screen. The default setting was 50, so if I set that down to 0, and then used the Fill mode on my TV to stretch the image to fill the screen, I think it was in the correct proportions.

I registered just to say thank you for this thread.
May be a little note would help that points oout that you need to hold the "B" button to bring up the mode change question...
Otherwise I hope a Wii list gets made. Here's the first entry:
CoD3 does not support 480p

Otherwise I hope a Wii list gets made. Here's the first entry:
CoD3 does not support 480p

Hi BoxInTheJack. Here's the Wii list (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753422). :D

Another note. I have PAL versions and Metroid Prime only supports 480i(60Hz) and not 480p, neither does number 2

I just got a component cable off eBay and 480p looks awesome.

One problem though, I have been in the game menu/ options area and changed the settings to 16x9 or widescreen but the ratio is still 4x3 on my TV uless I switch it to full screen vs normal. I have a Sony GWIII 60' LCD.

Any suggestions on what to do to get the games to fill the screen? I tried FZero and Soul Caliber II.

Thanks!

You have to change the tv to Full mode. None of the video games systems seem to flag the 480p 16x9 output as widescreen, so you have to do it manually.

Thanks, that's what it was.

I have a Gamecube w/component cables on the way from an Ebay purchase that will be hooked up to a 4:3 1080i set. Do I need to do something (hold B button) each time I power on the GC to enable 480P or is this a one time requirement? I would appreciate any advice on this subject. I will continue to do some searching in old threads in the meantime. Thanks.

I believe it's the first time you play a game, and then it remembers it for that game.

I was going through the list and noticed you have Double Dash as being 480p but not 16 x 9. I've been playing it quite a bit lately and I'm pretty sure it is widescreen, although it does have slight underscan.

I don't see any options for widescreen in Double Dash and it's clearly stretched on my TV.

Don't some games automatically switch to widescreen if you're playing them on progressive scan? I know I had Madden 04 on 4:3 and once I got a hold of component cables and played it in progressive it switched. I thought the same thing happened with Double Dash. All my icons are perfectly proportioned and I've played the game "stretched" before and it seriously affected my gameplay (and my gf's too, and she's better at it than me), particularly when drifting. That doesn't happen anymore. My apologies if I'm mistaken.


Update: Hit info on my tv while running Double Dash and displayed source as 720 x 480p @ 60 mghz.

I have my gamecube set up with s-video, so I understand I can't get 480p out of it. Can I still switch it to 16:9?

Thanks!

Thanks for assembling all this info Naylia. I'm new to the Cube (another Wii owner) and am anxious to catch up on some of the titles I missed. Before I found your thread, I had ripped the rankings/review links from IGN and Gamespot to get a better idea of what was worth owning or not. I decided to combine your spreadsheet with mine so people can get an idea of how well reviewed a game is, not just whether it is wide/480p or not. I hope you don't mind... And please feel free to link to this spreadsheet in your original post to build off. I didn't get rid of any information you had, I only added. Thanks again.

For those using this, the first sheet is the stats while the second sheet is the actual list. And just click on the IGN/GameSpot score to be taken to their review. Enjoy.
-Matt

The fields are as follows:
1. Title
2. Genre
3. 480p
4. 16:9
5. Both 480p & 16:9
6. DPL/II
7. THX
8. Players
9. IGN Score (w/link to review)
10. IGN Ranking
11. GameSpot Score (w/link to review)
12. GameSpot Ranking
13. Release Date
14. IGN & GameSpot ave. Score
15. IGN & GameSpot ave. Ranking

Here are the stats I came up with...

Description_______________Score____Percent
Total Games Nintendo.com__539______N/A
Total Games in List_______427______79%

Characteristics
Total 480p________________176______33%
Total 16:9________________66_______12%
Total Both 480p & 16:9____48_______9%
Total Dolby_______________134______25%
Total THX_________________5________1%

IGN Scores
>= 9.0____________________19_______4%
>= 8.0____________________136______25%
>= 7.0____________________240______45%

GameSpot Scores
>= 9.0____________________19_______4%
>= 8.0____________________130______24%
>= 7.0____________________255______47%

IGN & GS ave. Scores
>= 9.0____________________13_______2%
>= 8.0____________________106______20%
>= 7.0____________________174______32%

I just wanted to remind people that Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3: Rebel Stirke actually has Dobly Pro Logic IIx. 7.1 surround. Not sure if this matters, just thought it might be important to note.

I bought and tried Prisoner of Azkaban for the GC. Despite what the Nintendo magazine says, it's not 480p. Not widescreen, either.
I see in the database that Prisoner of Azkaban is still listed as 480p and 16:9.

I decided to combine your spreadsheet with mine so people can get an idea of how well reviewed a game is, not just whether it is wide/480p or not.
This is neat. Thanks. By the way, for those without MS Excel, like me, MS has a free viewer for Excel spreadsheets for XP.

Happy to help.

Awesome List. Seriously

I've got 5 corrections to the master list:
The following five games support progressive scan:
Fight Night Round 2
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Naruto: Clash of Ninja
Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2
Spartan: Total Warrior

I have these games and have played them in pro-scan regularly.
Thanks again!

the download link is broken. could you post another one please?

Download link has been repaired, sorry about that guys. Tomorrow I'll go through and make sure it's up to date with the last dozen or so posts of info.

I was wondering if we could add a FPS (frames per second) column to the list as the difference between 15, 30, and 60 fps is very important to me.