One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread [Text View] - Page 12

eddieb187

01-29-07, 11:51 PM

I have the AE900U, Toshiba HD-A1 and was disappointed in the low number of movies to be released. So I went to Wally World today and p/u a PS3. They only had the 60GB and no movies. Frickin Walmart. I bought a game to have something. Anyway, got it home set it up, updated the firmware, and d/l some BD trailers and some games. Gotta say, I'm not sorry. HDMI 1.3, 1080P, adv. audio support. I love this thing. I bought the remote also, I'm glad much better than the controller for movies. I played a few SD DVDs, they look ok, not as good as the HD-A1 though. I wish we could enable the scaler.
I have Blu-Ray coming from Blockbuster and Bestbuy, can't wait to see what the PS3 can do wish those. The BD trailers I d/l look really good.
There seems to be a lot more Blu-Ray coming than HD-DVD and now I won't have to watch SD instead.
I have one question, what the heck is ATRAC they don't say what it is in the manual.

bplewis24

01-30-07, 12:02 AM

Looks like Universal is stepping it up with HD-DVD titles: http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9681306-1.html?tag=cnetfd.mt

Brandon

SirDrexl

01-30-07, 12:09 AM

I have one question, what the heck is ATRAC they don't say what it is in the manual.

It's Sony's audio compression codec. I'd stick with MP3 or maybe AAC for compatibility reasons.

bommai

01-30-07, 12:11 AM

If you want to make sure you're getting a "future-proof" AVR that will do all of the required tasks on an HDMI audio source, read this: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9617745#post9617745

I have owned the Denon AVR 2307CI for about a month now and am very pleased with it. It does everything you would need for the best possible audio from an HD-DVD/BD player via HDMI, including proper LFE bass mgmt, and the ability to apply PLIIx to the LPCM feed coming in via HDMI in order to get 7.1 surround. I don't believe the Onkyo's can do the latter (meaning you'll only get 5.1 from LPCM over HDMI). Maybe someone else can confirm/deny that about the Onkyo's. I found my 2307CI online for $599.

Thanks for your help. How does the 2307CI compare to the 2807. I have the 2803. I did not remember there being a 2303. Is this a new model for '07? I think I am going to wait a while and manage for a while with my 2803. I will be limited to DTS and DD for now. I just ordered a 20GB PS3 online from EBGames. Hopefully it actually ships.

Also, I hope Sony continues optimization and development on this as well as improve the scaler, etc.

sawtooth81

01-30-07, 06:21 AM

Does anyone know if using an HDMI-->Component cable will work with the PS3/blu-ray playback? HDMI out of the PS3 to Component in on a 720p/1080i HDTV?

Thanks.

MASrules

01-30-07, 08:30 AM

Universal has not announced many titles at all. Reading the article from above does nothing to change that feeling.

We are going to release 100 new titles by the end of the year, and here are three with dates and five more that are coming soon that we already announced as coming soon monthes ago.

Not exactly anything to quell the panic in the HD-DVD camp.

Universal has to be thinking when and how to start producing Blu-ray movies. They just are not enough on their own to keep HD-DVD competitive with Blu-ray.

I love my PS3 Blu-ray player, and I would love a few Universal movies, but I am willing to wait a couple of years until Blu-ray has "won" the format war

Norgoth

01-30-07, 09:02 AM

eengert

01-30-07, 09:10 AM

Thanks for your help. How does the 2307CI compare to the 2807. I have the 2803. I did not remember there being a 2303. Is this a new model for '07? I think I am going to wait a while and manage for a while with my 2803. I will be limited to DTS and DD for now. I just ordered a 20GB PS3 online from EBGames. Hopefully it actually ships.

Also, I hope Sony continues optimization and development on this as well as improve the scaler, etc.

The 2807 adds a front cover to hide all the panel buttons for a sleeker look, 10 more watts per channel, the Audyssey Room EQ, a better remote, and of course about $300 extra.

You can also consider the AVR887 and AVR987, which are the basic equivalents of the 2307 and 2807 respectively.

For more info, go to http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp

space2001

01-30-07, 09:23 AM

Over at the playstation forum, they are saying if you disable the internet connection the freezing stops.

I will be trying this later in the week can anyone else confirm

WriteSimple

01-30-07, 09:58 AM

Played Prada on 1.5. No lockups, even with internet connection.

fuad

WriteSimple

01-30-07, 10:14 AM

One question I have is this. I puchased two PS3 games. One says 720p output (Madden 07) and I have not broken the wrapper while I think about it. Since my TV is 1080i only I know this means it will be downscaled to 480p or 480i. Will it play in widescreen or 4x3 only. If it is 4x3 only maybe I should return it for the PS2 version as it is SD only and half the price. Thanks for any advice you could give me. If your HDTV can accept only 480p/i and 1080i, you will get 480p video for the games. If your HDTV can also accept 720p, then you get 720p.

Read your HDTV manual. Or just check your settings and try it out.

fuad

sawtooth81

01-30-07, 10:56 AM

Does anyone have experience with using a HDMI --> component cable with the PS3? (HDMI on PS3 to component on HDTV).

Thanks.

grendelrt

01-30-07, 11:03 AM

I have never seen a HDMI -> Component cable personally. Why wouldnt you just use a PS2 or PS3 component cable instead? It has the multi AV side plug for the PS3 with component connections. I am using my PS2 component cables on mine right now for when I play PS2 games ( my TV doesnt take 480i/p over HDMI) and it works fine.

Does anyone have experience with using a HDMI --> component cable with the PS3? (HDMI on PS3 to component on HDTV).

Thanks.

sstephen

01-30-07, 11:26 AM

HDMI is all digital, so no HDMI--> component without some kind of electronic box to do the conversion.

DVI on the other hand can carry the analog signal (DVI-A or DVI-I), but I think it is limited to RGB, not YCbCr, which is what component needs. So even then you would need to buy a transcoder.

Offbeat BareAss

01-30-07, 11:34 AM

Jeff_DML

01-30-07, 12:12 PM

I have a question regarding the PS3 as a blu-ray player.

I have the Hitachi 42HDS69 plasma, which has a native resolution of 1024x1080.
When I play Talladega Nights on it, it really doesn't look that great for some reason. Nowhere near broadcast HD looks.

Is my PS3 displaying this in 480p or something?? My TV is capable of 720p and 1080i, but I just don't think this movie is playing in either one of those resolutions....

Talledega Nights is not a good blueray movie for PQ so probably playing ok on your tv, try a different one with higher Picture Quality , the blueray software forum has PQ ranking thread

Offbeat BareAss

01-30-07, 12:15 PM

Talledega Nights is not a good blueray movie for PQ so probably playing ok on your tv, try a different one with higher Picture Quality , the blueray software forum has PQ ranking thread

Thanks for the advice! I'll go check it out.

AVBill

01-30-07, 03:28 PM

I've tried using GetGray with my PS3, and I noticed something peculiar. For some reason, the all the vertical black bars (in the contrast test pattern) smear as they move. This doesn't seem to happen with my Xbox 360 (with the same TV settings). Is there something wrong with my PS3?

BdoUK

01-30-07, 04:15 PM

Over at the playstation forum, they are saying if you disable the internet connection the freezing stops.

I thought the PS3 automatically logged you out when you started to play a Blu-ray movie?

Vega

01-30-07, 05:04 PM

I have the Sony VW-VPL50 and the PS3. When I connecting it nothing is happening. Just blank screen. Do I mising any step or something? Thanks for your help!

JacobC1983

01-30-07, 05:14 PM

does it work when you hook it via hdmi to any other display devices? Sometimes you have to set the ps3 to hdmi first before you get video out of it

here is what I would do

turn the PS3 off.. then turn the switch to off on the back so that no lights are on the front.

next turn the button on the back to back on
then hold down the power button until you hear a series of beeps (don't let go for about 30 seconds or until beeps are heard)
turn the playstation back off then on via the buttons on the front (not the switch on the back of the unit)

this resets the ps3
see if you have video

Vega

01-30-07, 06:17 PM

scolumbo

01-30-07, 06:51 PM

I am not sure if this issue has been discussed but I wanted to point out that for those people owning the 20gig PS3 and then realized that you wanted a wireless connection, this product works perfectly right out of the box for me:

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826619&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

It is the wireless game adapter that requires no software on install(thereby avoiding the issue of what OS you are using).

Does anyone know if this can be used on the 60g PS3, bypassing the internal antenna? My signal is very weak (25-30%) even though another computer on my network in the same room as the PS3 gets a 85-90% signal. I'm hoping this would have the potential of boosting the signal strength.

SirDrexl

01-30-07, 07:24 PM

Does anyone know if this can be used on the 60g PS3, bypassing the internal antenna? My signal is very weak (25-30%) even though another computer on my network in the same room as the PS3 gets a 85-90% signal. I'm hoping this would have the potential of boosting the signal strength.

Since there's still an ethernet port, it will work.

JacobC1983

01-30-07, 07:27 PM

Thanks a lot!!! that was the problem......thanks again :)

no problem.. I had to do this going from a 1080p display to a 720p display and forgot to switch it off 1080p.. glad to help you out

zoro

01-30-07, 07:56 PM

Does anyone know if this can be used on the 60g PS3, bypassing the internal antenna? My signal is very weak (25-30%) even though another computer on my network in the same room as the PS3 gets a 85-90% signal. I'm hoping this would have the potential of boosting the signal strength.

any good source to buy online? hopefuly will work with xbox 360 too

rpete

01-30-07, 08:10 PM

sb1

01-30-07, 08:16 PM

I have just set up a new PS3 and am downloading game demos. Sadly, the fan noise on this thing is going to be awfully difficult to ignore while watching Blu-Ray movies. It has plenty of ventilation, and is sitting about 12 feet from me now, but the fan is quite clearly audible. I returned an xbox 360 for just this reason, and now I think the PS3 is going back to the store as well. Apparently these game consoles aren't for me.
Can you hear the PS3 during a movie? Even at low volume? I can only notice mine is on if the movie is either off or paused. If I'm listening for it, that is. Others have mentioned the noise, for sure. Maybe I just don't hear that well.

scolumbo

01-30-07, 08:17 PM

Since there's still an ethernet port, it will work.

And you would set the PS3 for a wired connection?

bplewis24

01-30-07, 08:18 PM

rocketman-7

01-30-07, 08:40 PM

I have just set up a new PS3 and am downloading game demos. Sadly, the fan noise on this thing is going to be awfully difficult to ignore while watching Blu-Ray movies. It has plenty of ventilation, and is sitting about 12 feet from me now, but the fan is quite clearly audible. I returned an xbox 360 for just this reason, and now I think the PS3 is going back to the store as well. Apparently these game consoles aren't for me.

Mine is very quiet. I am sitting about 10-11 ft away. Even when up close it seems very quiet whether playing a BR or video game.

rpete

01-30-07, 08:42 PM

How would you compare the PS3 noise to the 360 noise? I have played my friends 360 and it seems to be about 3 times as loud as the PS3, which I cannot hear at all while playing Blu Ray movies.

Brandon

Comparing just the cooling fans, the two consoles have fairly similar noise levels. Perhaps this PS3 is just a little bit quieter than the xbox was. While playing a game at high spin rate though, the xbox 360 DVD drive was insane. I've never seen any other piece of AV equipment that even came close to matching it.

Some Blu-Ray discs are on the way from Netflix and I'ill see if I can watch a movie without this fan becoming too bothersome. I really want this console to work out, but I seem to be a bit more sensitive to outside noise than others.

doc63

01-30-07, 09:37 PM

JacobC1983

01-30-07, 09:53 PM

How would you compare the PS3 noise to the 360 noise? I have played my friends 360 and it seems to be about 3 times as loud as the PS3, which I cannot hear at all while playing Blu Ray movies.

Brandon

I have both the ps3 and 360 w/ hd dvd drive

in my opinion the xbox is far louder. The xbox sounds like it is under complete load with fans at max when playing a HD movie.. the ps3 is not whisper silent but near so compared to the xbox360

JacobC1983

01-30-07, 09:55 PM

I just watched Flyboys BD on ps3 and it froze twice during the movie-- it was not the disc because I went back and rewatched the parts it froze on

the freeze was interesting though.. it froze and then 5 seconds later it resumed playing at both points during the movie

do you guys think it is firmware (I have 1.5) or possible heat problems??

any thoughts would be appreciated

MitchR

01-31-07, 04:50 AM

teiresias

01-31-07, 07:18 AM

SirDrexl

01-31-07, 07:27 AM

Hi guys, well, I got in on the 20GB PS3 action when they were available at Amazon yesterday, so it's on its way, woohoo!!

In any case, I'll be using a Panasonic PT-AE900 front projector setup with an older Onkyo TX-DS595 receiver, so no PCM output for me, just plain old DD5.1 at the moment, receiver upgrade to come by the end of the year I hope (and probably a new subwoofer).

In any case, I'm already using an Oppo on the HDMI input of the projector and would prefer to leave it there since I'm happy with its upscaling image and would rather continue to use it for DVD playback instead of the PS3.

So, I was thinking of just using my old PS2 component cable with the projector. Will there be any issues with this? The only reason I'm considering this is because it will lower the cash outlay needed for cables (otherwise I'd need to buy an HDMI switch and two shorter HDMI cables to get both the PS3 and the Oppo to the projector's HDMI input).

Have people noticed any significant video quality loss using component versus HDMI on the PS3? Thanks.

I don't know about quality issues, but will the PS2 cable be long enough to reach the projector?. You may have to plug the PS2 cable into the receiver (assuming it has component video input) and then have a long component cable from the receiver to the projector.

BTW, you can get a simple 2-input push-button switch at Monoprice for under $30, and the short HDMI cables would cost under $10 each, so having two HDMI may be less costly than you realize.

teiresias

01-31-07, 08:06 AM

I don't know about quality issues, but will the PS2 cable be long enough to reach the projector?. You may have to plug the PS2 cable into the receiver (assuming it has component video input) and then have a long component cable from the receiver to the projector.

BTW, you can get a simple 2-input push-button switch at Monoprice for under $30, and the short HDMI cables would cost under $10 each, so having two HDMI may be less costly than you realize.

There's already 25ft.+ runs of both HDMI and component going through the walls to the projector. I used to have the PS2 hooked up there and just had to use adapters on the end of the cable to get female connectors there for the PS2 cable to plug into. I also had the Ps2 hooked up to the receiver via optical, so it's really just a matter of swapping out the PS2 for the PS3.

And yes, I know what the pricing of the HDMI solution would be, it would still be between $40 - $60 (depending on which cable I go with), which is definitely more than the $0 I'd spend to use component. :)

DarkKnight2k4

01-31-07, 08:16 AM

I think the fan on the 360 is much louder.

Also the PS3's fan should be louder on gaming than video playback due to continuous load and processing being performed.

yuichiror

01-31-07, 08:21 AM

Have people noticed any significant video quality loss using component versus HDMI on the PS3? Thanks.
To my eyes with my Sony TV, the HDMI output seems to produce a much sharper picture than over component. I would give both interfaces a try and see which one works best for you.

bommai

01-31-07, 08:25 AM

teiresias

01-31-07, 08:25 AM

To my eyes with my Sony TV, the HDMI output seems to produce a much sharper picture than over component. I would give both interfaces a try and see which one works best for you.

Yeah, I'll probably at least disconnect the Oppo a few times to just do some testing between the component and HDMI output to see if I want to outlay the cash to get the PS3 on an HDMI input.

DavidHir

01-31-07, 08:29 AM

Have people noticed any significant video quality loss using component versus HDMI on the PS3? Thanks.

I haven't tried component yet with the PS3. But, your results may depend, in part, on your display.

However, I'm curious of the proprietary method being used for PS3 component vs component players with built-in RGB. Maybe someone more technical can explain the theoretical pros or cons of such implementation.

yuichiror

01-31-07, 08:32 AM

March update

I just ordered the 20GB PS3 from Amazon primarily for movie playback (BD and mostly traditional DVDs). I know that the PS3 does not upconvert traditional DVDs. I have a JVC HD-ILA 61" 1080p (1080i through HDMI though) TV. I will be using HDMI to connect the PS3. Will upconverting be better. I am hearing a lot of March update. Is this published by Sony or just rumors? Any hope for upconverting of DVDs. Should I wait and cancel my order?

Does the PS3 have built-in decoders for all future high resolution audio formats? I cannot keep all these straight. I have an old Denon 2803 receiver, so I will probably wait a year before upgrading that to an HDMI capable one. If PS3 can send everything through HDMI, that will be great.

I paid $700 for my Toshiba SD-9200 (built like a tank) in 2001. Now, it is worth probably $150! This is becoming expensive :(
All updates, for now, are published by Sony. The March update is pretty much a rumor, but it seems everyone knows about it.
There is a scaler chip in the PS3, so it may be able to upscale video sometime in the future.
Rumor has it that sometime in the future a firmware update will include a DTS lossless decoder.
From what I've been reading, for the next gen in HT, most makers of hardware are expecting the audio portion of decoding to take place in the actual disc players rather than in AVR's. But who knows...

teiresias

01-31-07, 09:00 AM

I haven't tried component yet with the PS3. But, your results may depend, in part, on your display.

However, I'm curious of the proprietary method being used for PS3 component vs component players with built-in RGB. Maybe someone more technical can explain the theoretical pros or cons of such implementation.

As far as I know, there's nothing proprietary about the electrical characteristics of the PS3s (or PS2s - same cable) component cable. The only thing proprietary about it is the actual pinout and shape of the connector on the console itself. Instead of using a standard RCA output they use their own proprietary connector - for obvious reasons.

Aetherhole

01-31-07, 11:01 AM

I tried turning off auto sign-in and watched Open Season last night. I had a 15 second pause during the movie. So I don't think that resolved the pausing issue.

hrokling

01-31-07, 12:04 PM

Living in Europe, I look forward to it's release in late March. In addition to gaming, I'm hoping to use it as my Blu-Ray player, but I'd like to get rid of juddering to get the max out of my new new Panasonic 1080p projector which supports 1080p24. Searching through this thread I see there's been some talk/speculations the last few months that this could be part of the major upgrade Sony is planning for March to coincide with the European launch. Does anyone have any more info about this?

jasonDono

01-31-07, 12:14 PM

Just got my PS3 from Circuit City in the mail. No Taladega Nights. Was I supposed to get it or did they end that promotion? Now I have nothing to play on it. What a bummer! :mad:

yuichiror

01-31-07, 12:17 PM

Just got my PS3 from Circuit City in the mail. No Taladega Nights. Was I supposed to get it or did they end that promotion? Now I have nothing to play on it. What a bummer! :mad:
I think it was only the first 500k units that came with that movie. Those units actually had a small pic of the movie on the outside of the PS3 box. Don't worry, I haven't heard anything good about the BD version of it.

jasonDono

01-31-07, 12:23 PM

I think it was only the first 500k units that came with that movie. Those units actually had a small pic of the movie on the outside of the PS3 box. Don't worry, I haven't heard anything good about the BD version of it.
Yeah, but I liked the movie okay and i want to try out the PS3! Now I have to wait for my Netflix delivery this afternoon.

Rick_R

01-31-07, 12:49 PM

March update

I just ordered the 20GB PS3 from Amazon primarily for movie playback (BD and mostly traditional DVDs). I know that the PS3 does not upconvert traditional DVDs. I have a JVC HD-ILA 61" 1080p (1080i through HDMI though) TV. I will be using HDMI to connect the PS3. Will upconverting be better. I am hearing a lot of March update. Is this published by Sony or just rumors? Any hope for upconverting of DVDs. Should I wait and cancel my order?

Does the PS3 have built-in decoders for all future high resolution audio formats? I cannot keep all these straight. I have an old Denon 2803 receiver, so I will probably wait a year before upgrading that to an HDMI capable one. If PS3 can send everything through HDMI, that will be great.

I paid $700 for my Toshiba SD-9200 (built like a tank) in 2001. Now, it is worth probably $150! This is becoming expensive :(
The PS3 does not upconvert standard DVDs to HD. However it does deinterlace them to 480p. It has the best deinterlacer I have seen. Much better than my two progressive scan DVD players. My HDTV (a 2000 Toshiba 65") does an outstanding job of upconversion to 1080i. I have no need of PS3 upconversion capabilities. Standard DVDs play fantastically on my PS3.

Rick R

eddieb187

01-31-07, 05:40 PM

Played my first Blu-Ray movie in the PS3 today.
I got Flyboys from Blockbuster.
It froze 3 times for about 10 or 15 seconds.
When I rewound and played over the same spot it played fine.
I don't think it's the DVD it was just released and there is not a mark on it.
The picture looks amazing on my AE900U!
Uncompressed DTS is fantastic also.
I wonder why it froze?
I have not had any other problems so far with games or downloaded content.
I have the 60GB and 1.5 firmware.
I going try Flyboys one more time tonight.

yuichiror

01-31-07, 05:50 PM

Uncompressed DTS is fantastic also.

Really?? I thought since there's no DTS lossless decoder yet, the PS3 can't output it...

eddieb187

01-31-07, 06:04 PM

Really?? I thought since there's no DTS lossless decoder yet, the PS3 can't output it...

Then what am I getting with Bitstream out on Optical?

bfdtv

01-31-07, 06:12 PM

Then what am I getting with Bitstream out on Optical?DTS @ 1.5Mbps, the same thing available on ~150 DVDs.

yuichiror

01-31-07, 06:18 PM

DTS @ 1.5Mbps, the same thing available on ~150 DVDs.
Yup. You can't get lossless audio out of Toslink.

DavidHir

01-31-07, 06:19 PM

How much will lossless DTS be?

yuichiror

01-31-07, 06:21 PM

How much will lossless DTS be?
HDMI 1.0: 4.9Gbps
HDMI 1.3: 10.2 Gbps

But first there has to be a decoder and nothing decodes DTS lossless yet, I think.
Well, at least the PS3 doesn't have one yet.

curlyjive

01-31-07, 06:34 PM

eddieb187

01-31-07, 06:47 PM

Try cleaning the disc...even if it doesn't look dirty. Under certain lights, I have noticed that obvious smudges are more hidden. Especially rentals.

Thanks.
I cleaned it and will play again tonight and post back.

bfdtv

01-31-07, 06:50 PM

How much will lossless DTS be?DTS-HD MA is variably encoded so the actual bitrate read off the disk will vary depending on the audio complexity of the scene. Typically, tracks run from 3Mbps to 5.5Mbps.

On players with DTS-HD MA decoding, the output through HDMI is 6.9Mbps to 8.0Mbps uncompressed LPCM. This is for current titles encoded at 24/48. Future music / concert disks encoded at 24/96 would output at twice that bitrate.

eddieb187

01-31-07, 06:55 PM

DTS @ 1.5Mbps, the same thing available on ~150 DVDs.

You're right.
When I hit display on the remote it says:
DTS Multi-Channel 48 kHZ 1.5 Mbps

Dave_G

01-31-07, 07:00 PM

Try cleaning the disc...even if it doesn't look dirty. Under certain lights, I have noticed that obvious smudges are more hidden. Especially rentals.

What firmware are you using....there is a freezing issue with the 1.50 update :mad:

yuichiror

01-31-07, 07:03 PM

What firmware are you using....there is a freezing issue with the 1.50 update :mad:
LOL, actually, I've had 2 playback incidents since I've updated to 1.5. But so far only on BD's.

Dave_G

01-31-07, 07:32 PM

LOL, actually, I've had 2 playback incidents since I've updated to 1.5. But so far only on BD's.

Some report that disabling the internet connection will fix the issue, for now.

yuichiror

01-31-07, 07:38 PM

Some report that disabling the internet connection will fix the issue, for now.
Well my playback issues have been very infrequent. Only 3 so far. However, if it increases, I'll give that a try. Thanks!

maverick0716

01-31-07, 07:52 PM

DTS @ 1.5Mbps, the same thing available on ~150 DVDs.

I didn't know there were 150 DVDs with the 1.5 Mbps soundtrack. I thought most DVD's had the half bitrate DTS soundtrack.

bfdtv

01-31-07, 08:36 PM

I didn't know there were 150 DVDs with the 1.5 Mbps soundtrack. I thought most DVD's had the half bitrate DTS soundtrack.The majority of DVDs with DTS do use 768Kbps. However, there are still 150+ DVD releases worldwide with DTS @ 1.5Mbps; around one-third were released in the United States.

AVBill

02-01-07, 12:11 PM

If you are an A2000 owner, with a PS3, could you please try to comment on this issue I'm having here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9647574&&#post9647574

My A2000 keeps stating the message "Unsupported Audio Signal. Please check your device output." There are more details in the linked to post. Thank you in advance.

contagion

02-01-07, 02:16 PM

Hi all.

I got a PS3 about a month ago, and am enjoying it so far. Been watching lots of Blu-ray movies, and think they're amazing.

One issue I'm having is in regards to the picture. I notice a green hue in midtones, or shadows, etc. and it's really annoying! :-)

I've calibrated my screen with Avia, and with the help of some of the setups in the forum for my set, and I thought I had it looking great (with Comcast HD), but the Blu-ray movies all seem to have that green hue. I tired to calibrate to the Blu-rays and have a separate setup for Blu-ray movies only, but I couldn't get rid of the green hue without completely destroying the rest of the color.

I don't notice it in games, and I haven't watched any standard DVDs in the player yet, so I'm not sure if those will have that hue to them...

A note regarding my setup:
TV is a Sony KDL40V2500 connected through Onkyo 604 A/V Receiver via Monoprice HDMI cables... Comcast HD box is running through receiver as well, and there's no green hue on video through it.

I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue...

Also, to note, I haven't had any issues with Blu-ray playback after the 1.5 update.

Thanks everyone!

eddieb187

02-01-07, 05:54 PM

Try cleaning the disc...even if it doesn't look dirty. Under certain lights, I have noticed that obvious smudges are more hidden. Especially rentals.

That did the trick.
I clean it with a disc washer and it played all the way though without a hitch.

CRFTony

02-01-07, 06:15 PM

I just noticed that my PS3 is being shipping out by EBGames today (doing the happy dance)!

Now I need to buy a receiver. Decisions, decisions.

tingham

02-01-07, 08:15 PM

contagion

02-01-07, 09:06 PM

Did you try to bypass your hdmi receiver and connect the ps3 directly to the sony?
I would try that first to see if that helps the green hue. That would eliminate the receiver causing the problem.

Thanks for the idea! I tried that though, and it didn't help... Same green hue... I have my cable TV running through the receiver too, and no green there...

I thought I read about other people experiencing this issue, but I can't seem to find anything about it now...

It really makes no sense... I've tried different HDMI cables, running direct to TV, running through receiver... I'm not sure what else I could do... I'm hoping a firmware update will somehow magically fix the problem.

techwisenyc

02-01-07, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the idea! I tried that though, and it didn't help... Same green hue... I have my cable TV running through the receiver too, and no green there...

I thought I read about other people experiencing this issue, but I can't seem to find anything about it now...

It really makes no sense... I've tried different HDMI cables, running direct to TV, running through receiver... I'm not sure what else I could do... I'm hoping a firmware update will somehow magically fix the problem.

Did you try and change the Video Output BD settings on the PS3 for HDMI from Auto to RGB? I think this fixed some color issues for some people that encountered it.

yuichiror

02-02-07, 07:11 AM

Aparently there's a 1.51 update availible now. It's supposed to address playability issues with PS2 games.

contagion

02-02-07, 08:47 AM

Did you try and change the Video Output BD settings on the PS3 for HDMI from Auto to RGB? I think this fixed some color issues for some people that encountered it.

I think I tried that, but I'll certainly try it when I get home today. I'll try anything.... :-)

Thanks!!

SirDrexl

02-02-07, 09:45 AM

The setting for YCbCr or RGB has to match your display. I believe many TVs use YCbCr, while computer monitors use RGB, but there are exceptions. You may be able to change your display's setting, but whatever you do, the display and console have to match. The Auto setting detects what your display uses and outputs the appropriate type.

My projector allows for either setting, but if they don't match, what do I get? You guessed it: a green screen. However, my green screen is nothing but green, as if viewed through a green filter that comes with Avia or Digital Video Essentials. It sounds like yours is more subtle, so that may not be what's causing it.

bommai

02-02-07, 10:08 AM

PS3 annoyance

I just got my PS3 and love it, except for the following:

1) I wish I could use my Harmony remote, but oh well. I am buying the DVD remote also.
2) Inserting media does not prompt PS3 do act on it. If you put a BD-ROM, CD, DVD, etc into the PS3 while it is on, it should act on it and do a default action - like play it. Even PC and Mac DVD player software allow this.
3) Hopefully all the future software updates come through and Sony is financially healthy to achieve all that.
4) I wish I could do a samba share and get my pictures and music from my Mac upstairs. I have a Squeezebox in my living room and love it, but would like the PS3 to mimick its capabilities. I love the fact Squeezebox can do Apple Lossless. I have ripped all my CDs as Apple Lossless using iTunes. Works great with Squeezebox. I might have to just get a MacMini or AppleTV to play my music and pictures. PS3 has all the hardware but no software ;-) Apple and Sony should collaborate on this - wishful thinking.

SonnyAZ

02-02-07, 12:29 PM

Agreed. Sony is trying to sell the PS3 as a media hub, and it has no capabilities to that end at all. It can't stream media from my Mac, it can't network with any of my computers, it doesn't recognize a Mac formatted iPod -- um hello. It's like Sony had its head up its *ss half the time, kind of like Microsoft. Consumers want options and compatibility with the equipment they already have, so why not put the capabilities into the thing if the hardware is there to support it?

CRFTony

02-02-07, 01:08 PM

Sorry for the irrelevant post, but I just had to say that I received my PS3 5 minutes ago. Unfortunately my new receiver with hdmi support won't arrive until Monday, but I'm still excited.

contagion

02-02-07, 01:12 PM

Sorry for the irrelevant post, but I just had to say that I received my PS3 5 minutes ago. Unfortunately my new receiver with hdmi support won't arrive until Monday, but I'm still excited.

What receiver did you decide to get?

CRFTony

02-02-07, 01:14 PM

I ended up going with the Onkyo 604. It's not perfect, but it fits my budget constraints well (money is tight after having bought a new 50 inch plasma, an A1 and a PS3 within the past 4 months).

contagion

02-02-07, 01:20 PM

I ended up going with the Onkyo 604. It's not perfect, but it fits my budget constraints well (money is tight after having bought a new 50 inch plasma, an A1 and a PS3 within the past 4 months).

I'm right there with ya... Just bought a new 40" 1080p Sony TV, PS3, Wii, and Onkyo 604...

And today I just found out my homeowners insurance went up A LOT! :mad:

PooperScooper

02-02-07, 01:41 PM

And today I just found out my homeowners insurance went up A LOT! Why? These are just household items and ones that depreciate quickly.

larry

yuichiror

02-02-07, 01:44 PM

And today I just found out my homeowners insurance went up A LOT! :mad:
Live on the coast?

contagion

02-02-07, 01:47 PM

Why? These are just household items and ones that depreciate quickly.

larry

Nothing to do with these purchases.... Everything to do with the insurance industry being a huge scam! I live in FL, and because we had 2 years with some hurricanes, they decide they need to up everyones premium by at least double... I hoped it wouldn't affect me, but alas, my hopes went unanswered.

At least I have plenty to keep me busy while I camp out in my house, since I can't afford to do anything else anymore... :)

Rick_R

02-02-07, 01:49 PM

bplewis24

02-02-07, 01:55 PM

Nothing to do with these purchases.... Everything to do with the insurance industry being a huge scam! I live in FL, and because we had 2 years with some hurricanes, they decide they need to up everyones premium by at least double... I hoped it wouldn't affect me, but alas, my hopes went unanswered.

At least I have plenty to keep me busy while I camp out in my house, since I can't afford to do anything else anymore... :)

In some parts of California some insurance companies are considering not offering Homeowners insurance policies at all!

Brandon

contagion

02-02-07, 01:57 PM

In some parts of California some insurance companies are considering not offering Homeowners insurance policies at all!

Brandon

It's just amazing when you see how many billions of dollars these companies profit, then they have to pay out because of a bad year or two, and that's grounds for them to skyrocket, or all together, cancel your coverage...

Getting off topic here, and I could go on for far too long! :)

contagion

02-02-07, 01:59 PM

My PS3 plays HD movies great. However I just played my first PS3 game (Call of Duty 3). The game is great but I am unable to play the game in HD.

The PS3 outputs the video at 480 letterboxed which I can zoom to fill my HDTV but it is not HD! My HDTV is a 480i, 480p, & 1080i (component) TV and I have it set that way in the setup menu. The PS3 game says 480i, 720p, and 1080i supported on the package. I have another game that says 480i and 720p supported on the package which I do not expect to display HD on my HDTV. However I expect the 1080i supported game to play in HDTV but I can not get it to.

Any help would be appreciated.

Rick R

I think this is one of the issues that Sony is addressing, the lack of support for previous gen HD sets... I believe I've read in other forums, posts where people are complaining of the same issue... I wish I could find a post to direct you to, but after a quick search, I didn't find anything...

bommai

02-02-07, 02:09 PM

I ended up going with the Onkyo 604. It's not perfect, but it fits my budget constraints well (money is tight after having bought a new 50 inch plasma, an A1 and a PS3 within the past 4 months).

I have never owned an Onkyo. I have owned two Denons. AVR 2700 - I sold it 3 years ago. To replace that, I bought a Denon AVR 2803. Sounds great. Now, I am tempted to upgrade since it does not have HDMI and with PS3 and lossless audio - I need HDMI. I have seen the 604 pretty cheap online and even in Circuit City. Upscaling through HDMI is not important for me since my JVC Pro 61" LCoS TV has a very good scaler. However, I am interested in the sound quality. How does the Onkyo compare to Denon. I have heard that the Onkyo's are a little bright. I have Klipsch Reference Series speakers (RF5 mains, RC7 center, RS35 surround, RW12 sub). I might just wait a year and get one that is good! But the cheap price of the 604 is tempting. Denon 2807 is too expensive for me right now.

yuichiror

02-02-07, 02:12 PM

My PS3 plays HD movies great. However I just played my first PS3 game (Call of Duty 3). The game is great but I am unable to play the game in HD.

The PS3 outputs the video at 480 letterboxed which I can zoom to fill my HDTV but it is not HD! My HDTV is a 480i, 480p, & 1080i (component) TV and I have it set that way in the setup menu. The PS3 game says 480i, 720p, and 1080i supported on the package. I have another game that says 480i and 720p supported on the package which I do not expect to display HD on my HDTV. However I expect the 1080i supported game to play in HDTV but I can not get it to.

Any help would be appreciated.

Rick R
It's a misprint. From the Activision website:
Please be advised that a limited number of Call of Duty 3 game packages contain a misprint regarding support for 1080i resolution – it should state that Call of Duty 3 supports 720p. Future game packaging has been updated to reflect support for 720p resolution.

yuichiror

02-02-07, 02:16 PM

I have never owned an Onkyo. I have owned two Denons. AVR 2700 - I sold it 3 years ago. To replace that, I bought a Denon AVR 2803. Sounds great. Now, I am tempted to upgrade since it does not have HDMI and with PS3 and lossless audio - I need HDMI. I have seen the 604 pretty cheap online and even in Circuit City. Upscaling through HDMI is not important for me since my JVC Pro 61" LCoS TV has a very good scaler. However, I am interested in the sound quality. How does the Onkyo compare to Denon. I have heard that the Onkyo's are a little bright. I have Klipsch Reference Series speakers (RF5 mains, RC7 center, RS35 surround, RW12 sub). I might just wait a year and get one that is good! But the cheap price of the 604 is tempting. Denon 2807 is too expensive for me right now.
I have an Onkyo SR600 and Klipsh Synergy speakers. I've never listened to Denon AVRs, but I do know that my Onkyo isn't as bright as the Yamahas that were used when I "auditioned" the speakers at the store.

Rick_R

02-02-07, 03:47 PM

It's a misprint. From the Activision website:
Please be advised that a limited number of Call of Duty 3 game packages contain a misprint regarding support for 1080i resolution – it should state that Call of Duty 3 supports 720p. Future game packaging has been updated to reflect support for 720p resolution.
That sucks. Activision that is. Thank you very much for the answer.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread I have a copy of the PS3 game Madden 07 that supports 720p only and I have not yet broken the wrapper as I am considering returning it. I can not return Call of Duty 3 even if WalMart let me return an opened package (defective labeling?) as I promised my son he could play Call of Duty 3 when he house sits for me later this month.

Rick R

Freshmeat36

02-02-07, 03:51 PM

Hello All!!
I have had a PS3 for about two months now and am happy to report that I have no issues with playback, dropped sound or fan noise. Only complaint would be the extremely slow downloads but I am sure that is a topic for the wireless thread.

What I would like to know is whether or not it is possible to maximise the sound availably via BR right now or if this is something that will require a receiver that is still on the horizon. At the present time I am hooked up directly to my Mitz via HDMI and am running optical to my Denon AVR 5800. 5.1 is great and all but I would like to start investigating a receiver expansion. Hopefully something that receives both video (untouched) and audio via HDMI and has the capability of working with all the new HD audio options available via BR. Best case would be something that I could use as a Pre for my Denon. I paid a pretty penny for the watts and need every one with my Logans. I would hate to have to talk the wife into a 7*200watt "6 ohms" upgrade to finally hear what HD audio sounds like. ;)

Thanks,
Chris

yuichiror

02-02-07, 03:54 PM

That sucks. Activision that is. Thank you very much for the answer.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread I have a copy of the PS3 game Madden 07 that supports 720p only and I have not yet broken the wrapper as I am considering returning it. I can not return Call of Duty 3 even if WalMart let me return an opened package (defective labeling?) as I promised my son he could play Call of Duty 3 when he house sits for me later this month.

Rick R
Sorry dude. Since we've discovered there's a scaler on the PS3, everyone's hoping we'll get an update soon to upscale to 1080 some time soon.

cadams

02-02-07, 04:32 PM

My PS3 plays HD movies great. However I just played my first PS3 game (Call of Duty 3). The game is great but I am unable to play the game in HD.

The PS3 outputs the video at 480 letterboxed which I can zoom to fill my HDTV but it is not HD! My HDTV is a 480i, 480p, & 1080i (component) TV and I have it set that way in the setup menu. The PS3 game says 480i, 720p, and 1080i supported on the package. I have another game that says 480i and 720p supported on the package which I do not expect to display HD on my HDTV. However I expect the 1080i supported game to play in HDTV but I can not get it to.

Any help would be appreciated.

Rick R

Make sure you have the proper resolutions set in the display options. My TV is a 768p but the PS3 set the max resolution to 1080i and unchecked 720p, when I went to play R:FOM it displayed as 480p.

So go in and check to see what's set to output and then maybe turn everything off except 1080i to see if that gets COD3 to work.

yuichiror

02-02-07, 04:45 PM

Make sure you have the proper resolutions set in the display options. My TV is a 768p but the PS3 set the max resolution to 1080i and unchecked 720p, when I went to play R:FOM it displayed as 480p.

So go in and check to see what's set to output and then maybe turn everything off except 1080i to see if that gets COD3 to work.
COD3 doesn't output 1080...

You don't intentionally play RFOM at 480p do you?

AndyM

02-02-07, 05:03 PM

just received PS3. not had a chance to connect it up yet ... but ...

i was expecting there to be a demo blu-ray disc to show off ... well, blu-ray. more to the point, films on blu-ray. picture this ... gamer picks up PS3. not that intereted in movies. but sees blu-ray demo disc. what's this ? check's it out for curiosity's sake. wow, gamer didn't realise films could look this good, and now must go and get some of these purdy blu-ray disks.

and back to reality. and we get ... a little paper booklet with some titles you can buy. not a very agressive tactic to sell blu-ray as a movie format to those that just bought it as a games console.

it's entirely possible that i'm missing something out here, but it seems unbelievably fc*king stupid on sony's part to miss out this marketing opportunity. you want to promote blu-ray, what better place to do it than on the playstation 3. even more so when (or if) the gaming population grows in the future to more signifficant numbers.

bommai

02-02-07, 05:18 PM

Just got my PS3 from Amazon and it has Talladega Nights!!!!

I just got the 20GB PS3 from Amazon and noticed that it has the Talladega Nights DVD in it. Does this mean, it is an old unit, a return, etc? I am becoming paranoid. The units (60GB) that I saw locally did not have Talladega Nights label on the box. Am I being paranoid or just cautious. I just updated the software to 1.51. It came with 1.0.

bommai

02-02-07, 05:21 PM

Ron Jones

02-02-07, 05:36 PM

Bluray movie coupon question

I am planning on ordering a few Bluray movies from Amazon (they have good prices). If I order an bunch of them, I will have only one receipt. I noticed there are a bunch of $10 rebate coupons (from various studios) along with the PS3. Can I use multiple coupons within the same envelop with one original receipt to get multiple $10 off (one from each studio). Has anyone successfully done this yet?
All of the coupons have the same mailing address. I just attached 3 of the coupons to an Amazon receipt showning the 3 titles that I purchased. I haven't got the rebate back yet, but it should be OK.

Ron Jones

jschefdog

02-02-07, 05:48 PM

PS3 annoyance

I just got my PS3 and love it, except for the following:

1) I wish I could use my Harmony remote, but oh well. I am buying the DVD remote also.
You might want to check out this article at Remote Central (http://www.remotecentral.com/articles/ps3-ir-remote.htm). You can't make an IR remote do everything, but per this article it can do the basic functions with the PS2 IR sensor. I haven't tried it yet but am planning to. Some have posted that the parts to do it don't cost much more than the official Bluetooth remote.

CRFTony

02-02-07, 06:11 PM

I just hooked up my new PS3 after getting an HDMI cable. I ran the setup and everything went smoothly. I rented a few PS2 games on the way home (video store only has a handful of PS3 games and all were out). After getting the system set up, I popped in Hitman, one of my fav games when I had the Xbox360.

First impressions - wow, the jaggies everyone mentioned are really bad. I didn't expect them to be so dramatic. That was a little disappointing, but was bearable. I played the game for a bit and clicked to save, and the screen froze on the save screen. I could hear by the audio that the game was still "playing", but all I could see was the save screen. I had to turn the system off as there was no way I could make it do anything else no matter how hard I tried. I didn't get a chance to play the game again and to try to save it, but I sure hope it was a fluke thing. One of my big selling points on buying a PS3 was that it was backwards compatible. I didn't get duped, did I?

Jedi2016

02-02-07, 06:29 PM

Darobga

02-02-07, 06:31 PM

As for the backward compatibility there have been a TON of updates to make it MUCH better since launch. Make sure you update to the newest firmware (1.51) before playing a game, and make sure to make a virtual PS1 or PS2 mem card so you can save! You can download the firmware directly on the PS3 or onto a USB drive or cd/dvd from your pc and load it onto your PS3.

CRFTony

02-02-07, 06:40 PM

Thanks for the advice! I'm downloading the 1.51 firmware update now and will install it this evening.

I'm waiting on watching movies until I get my new receiver on Monday. It's hard, but I'm forcing myself as I want to hear the best audio on my first viewing. :)

yuichiror

02-02-07, 06:42 PM

BoSoxMole

02-02-07, 08:11 PM

I have to send back my PS3 because the audio keeps cutting out for half a second; throughout the whole film.

They are sending me a new PS3 though, so that should be good.

asaturno

02-02-07, 08:13 PM

yuichiror

02-02-07, 08:15 PM

I am debating on whether to get the 20 gig or 60 gig PS3. My primary use will be as a Blu-Ray player. Secondary is games....say 5-10 games over the next year or two. Is 20 gig enough space for that many games? Or should I go with 60gb?

Thanks!
I think the HDD space is not an issue since you can always swap in a bigger disk drive. If you want the built in flash card readers and/or wireless connectivity, then you should go with the 60gig. Else the 20gig model is fine.

FWIW, game saves don't take much memory. For an infrequent game player, it'll take a LOOOONG time to fill up just a gig of memory.

SirDrexl

02-02-07, 08:34 PM

I think the HDD space is not an issue since you can always swap in a bigger disk drive. If you want the built in flash card readers and/or wireless connectivity, then you should go with the 60gig. Else the 20gig model is fine.

I agree about the hard drive. Heck, I think 60GB isn't really enough for serious media center use. Since you'd want to replace it anyway, you might as well get the one with the smaller drive and use the saved money to buy a bigger drive at some point.

If you're not using it as a media center, 60GB may be too much, but that will depend on how you use the downloadable content. I'm going to just have the demos and trailers temporarily and delete them to make room for more, but I could see where some would want to "collect" them, and that is where a bigger drive would be helpful. Are you planning on purchasing some downloaded games from the store? That might also affect your decision as to whether the bigger drive is needed.

The card readers aren't necessary either, as USB flash drives serve the same purpose. I find them to be more useful and compatible than cards anyway.

What I think it really boils down to is whether you want wi-fi or not. A wireless bridge can be added, but they cost around $80-90. At that price you'd be better off just getting it built in with the 60GB model if you need it soon.

asaturno

02-02-07, 10:50 PM

Thanks for the input. Sounds like the 20gig is perfect for me then! :)

jamare

02-03-07, 01:11 AM

what people not have hdtv's? Come on I've had HDTV since 2001. Its 7 years later. Thats sad. OH by the way most computer monitors are HD.. SO get some speakers. And getting the 60gig for another $100 is a better choice. I've filled my 10 gig xbox several times. Xbox is now even endorsing a special xbox Sandisk Cruzer thumb drive up to 4gig or even 8 gig so gamers can cary content, and swap. But that gonna cost $100-250. Notice all the sandisk micro 1gig,2gig, and 4 gigs going on sale at various stores, for $19,$39, and $69 respectivly? Thats why. Well for the price of few of those I bought a nice trusty external drive.What did i get you ask? I bought a ONE TERABYTE external drive for $450(gross) my actual net OOP was about $245. So my next question Got Gigs?

walk

02-03-07, 01:53 AM

PS3 version 1.51

Can not access the pop up menu selections with the BD movie "Good Night and Good Luck".

Great movie by the way, I've always been a student of Edward R. Murrow...

The movie plays fine, all the way thru, no problems.

BUT - if you bring up the "pop up" menu, you can't actually select any of the menu items! In fact if you bring up the "special features" menu, you are stuck in a loop, and the only way out is to hit "stop" or cancel out of Blu-ray playback altogether.

jdleano1

02-03-07, 03:52 AM

winghus

02-03-07, 04:27 AM

PooperScooper

02-03-07, 07:26 AM

yuichiror

02-03-07, 08:36 AM

sb1

02-03-07, 09:46 AM

contagion

02-03-07, 09:53 AM

Anyone who describes the PS3 as "very loud" playing a movie, may want to exchange it. I only notice mine is on if the movie is muted. That's if I'm listening for it. It sits right out in the open under my screen, about 15 ft from seating.

I'd also like to chime in and say I've yet to hear the fan in my PS3... I notice the Wii more than the PS3...

Always a good idea to leave plenty of breathing room for the PS3 though, there's a lot of heat inside that beast. :)

Audiguy3

02-03-07, 11:24 AM

As long as I keep my PS3 well ventilated, I rarely hear the fans. If I do, I crank up the volume.
Same here My HR-20 is much more noisy than the PS3

Kenn157

02-03-07, 11:54 AM

Hey guys... I just bought a PS3 yesterday. Hooked it up to my Sony DA5200ES receiver. Looks great! Cant wait to get a Blue Ray DVD. Any sugestions on a movie? :)

yuichiror

02-03-07, 12:07 PM

Hey guys... I just bought a PS3 yesterday. Hooked it up to my Sony DA5200ES receiver. Looks great! Cant wait to get a Blue Ray DVD. Any sugestions on a movie? :)
Check out Open Season, the PQ is absolutely stunning.
Black Hawk Down,
Kingdom of Heaven,
Crank,
and Corpse Bride look pretty good.

jamare

02-03-07, 12:42 PM

wow thats a sad statement. So do you have a Hdtv,Digital camera, or computer? I don't know anyone who doesn't have a hdtv.

Quite a lot of people don't have HDTVs yet, as more programming becomes available in HD, that will change. You're probably not old enough to remember how long it took for people to switch from B&W TVs to color but suffice it to say that it took a lot longer than the HD switch will IMO.

aaronwt

02-03-07, 01:31 PM

wow thats a sad statement. So do you have a Hdtv,Digital camera, or computer? I don't know anyone who doesn't have a hdtv.

The majority of people don't have HD sets. And most of the people that do probably aren't even watching HD even though they think they are.

geb724

02-03-07, 02:05 PM

FLBoy

02-03-07, 02:24 PM

Hello
Sorry if this has been addressed but has anybody had any issues with watching dvd (movies) and having to deal with the fans from the PS3 coming on. They seem to be very loud and a little bothersome. Is there a way of just watching movies without having to activate the hard drive similar to quick play on hp laptops???
I originally had placed my PS3 in my equipment cabinet under my RPTV. The PS3 could not get rid of its heat very efficiently there, so the fan ran on high speed and made a lot of noise.

I then moved the PS3 to the top of the equipment cabinet, behind the screen of my RPTV, and positioned the PS3 vertically on the small island of space available there. This allowed plenty of ventilation, thus reducing the fan speed. Also, the front of the RPTV blocks the direct path of the fan noise, which is mostly high frequency and very directional.

This works beautifully, because the Bluetooth RF controller/remote does not require line-of-sight to the PS3. One word of caution: If you do this, make sure the PS3 heat does not exhaust towards the lamp cooling air intake of your RPTV, or you may shorten the lamp life!

Talkstr8t

02-04-07, 12:31 AM

im running HDMI from ps3 to my Onkyo 604.when playong a bluray with pcm track I set it to pcm.should I always leave at pcm?.I set at bitstream when playing blu ray with DTS,DD 5.1.If I just leave it at pcm Im just having the ps3 decode;is this correct?Yes, always leave it on PCM if you are connected via HDMI audio. This will ensure you always get the highest quality decoding (since your PS3 can decode more than your receiver can).

Talkstr8t

02-04-07, 12:32 AM

A nice feature of the Pioneer is the ability to play audio, video and jpeg files that are stored on a PC. Is the PS3 able to be used as a media center (with playback from a PC NOT the unit's 60gb hd) similar to the Pioneer BDP-HD1?The PS3 firmware doesn't currently support PC-based playback, other than through solutions like Orb which allow you to use the PS3 web browser to stream audio/video. It is expected that future updates will support this capability, but nothing has been confirmed.

It is possible to install Linux on the PS3 and use it as a media center. I expect this capability will be rapidly improved upon.

- Talk

Tarunc

02-04-07, 08:18 AM

Yes, always leave it on PCM if you are connected via HDMI audio. This will ensure you always get the highest quality decoding (since your PS3 can decode more than your receiver can).

I have a less then smart question. If I leave my ps3 in PCM then my Denon AVR-4306 shows a simple 5.1 channel input when using a Blu-Ray dvd (Xmen the last Stand) which is a 6.1 Channel DTS disc. However, if I switch the ps3 to Bitstream my receiver shows a 6.1 channel input and it outputs 6.1 channels.

I guess the question is....if you have a Dolby Digital EX or DTS ES disc then Linear PCM will only send 5.1 channels to the receiver and thus you will only hear 5.1 channels. If you use Bitstream then you get the full 6.1 etc.

Is this the way it should be?

Am I missing something?

yuichiror

02-04-07, 08:53 AM

I have a less then smart question. If I leave my ps3 in PCM then my Denon AVR-4306 shows a simple 5.1 channel input when using a Blu-Ray dvd (Xmen the last Stand) which is a 6.1 Channel DTS disc. However, if I switch the ps3 to Bitstream my receiver shows a 6.1 channel input and it outputs 6.1 channels.

I guess the question is....if you have a Dolby Digital EX or DTS ES disc then Linear PCM will only send 5.1 channels to the receiver and thus you will only hear 5.1 channels. If you use Bitstream then you get the full 6.1 etc.

Is this the way it should be?

Am I missing something?
The PS3 doesn't have a DTS lossless decoder, yet. So when you set it to bitstream for XMen III you're getting the compressed DTS core. For Dolby, leave at PCM and you should get the lossless tracks.

Tarunc

02-04-07, 09:08 AM

The PS3 doesn't have a DTS lossless decoder, yet. So when you set it to bitstream for XMen III you're getting the compressed DTS core. For Dolby, leave at PCM and you should get the lossless tracks.

Thanks....I will do just that until the ps3 can decode DTS.

aaronwt

02-04-07, 09:43 AM

It'smuch easier to just have the PS3 do all the decoding and send the PCM stream from the DTS core. It sounds very good although I'll be glad when it can decode the DTS-HD master tracks.

Tarunc

02-04-07, 09:48 AM

It'smuch easier to just have the PS3 do all the decoding and send the PCM stream from the DTS core. It sounds very good although I'll be glad when it can decode the DTS-HD master tracks.

While I agree...my only problem is that when you do have a disc that has DTS-ES on it you get 6.1 channel sound via bitstream and only 5.1 channels via PCM.

I have a 7.1 setup so ofcourse I would want to make use of that extra channel.

Kenn157

02-04-07, 09:53 AM

While I agree...my only problem is that when you do have a disc that has DTS-ES on it you get 6.1 channel sound via bitstream and only 5.1 channels via PCM.

I have a 7.1 setup so ofcourse I would want to make use of that extra channel.

I get 6.1 with PCM or Bitstream makes no difference. I just tried it. I have the Sony 5200ES, maybe thats why.

Tarunc

02-04-07, 09:54 AM

I get 6.1 with PCM or Bitstream makes no difference. I just tried it. I have the Sony 5200ES, maybe thats why.

I have a Denon avr-4306. And when the ps3 is on the input and output shows multichannel 7.1 on pcm. HOwever when I pop in a BluRay disc, XMEN Last stand in this case, the input swtiches to 5.1 and output is at 5.1. If I use bitstream then input is 6.1 and output is 6.1

I have updated to latest firmware on the ps3.

Kenn157

02-04-07, 10:02 AM

Nice 7.1! I only have a 6.1 speaker system (Bose). The 5200 will do 7.1 :)

jdroh

02-04-07, 12:19 PM

I, and at least one other person were having a very similar problem.

I posted my solution to the problem here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9601667#post9601667

For me, it appared to be an issue with my Receiver's DSP processing in THX Home Cinema mode. Setting the reciever to normal 5.1 mode made my problem go away.

I have to send back my PS3 because the audio keeps cutting out for half a second; throughout the whole film.

They are sending me a new PS3 though, so that should be good.

bplewis24

02-04-07, 12:30 PM

And most of the people that do probably aren't even watching HD even though they think they are.

Not only that, but a good amount of people don't even realize they don't have a true HDTV, they are watching EDTVs.

One of my better friends just upgraded from an EDTV plasma about 8 months ago, and my grandparents (who could easily upgrade to an HDTV) are still watching tv on an EDTV. I don't have the heart to tell them because a) they may not completely understand and might mistakenly think I'm telling them they've been ripped off and b) they don't have HD programming or players. The only thing they could use to take advantage of HD is over-the-air broadcasts.

Brandon

tacos

02-04-07, 03:13 PM

Just curious if any of you are having a dust build up on your PS3. Man, as soon as I clean mine off its right back on(dust). Normally don't care about that kind of thing. But damn.

SirDrexl

02-04-07, 03:30 PM

Just curious if any of you are having a dust build up on your PS3. Man, as soon as I clean mine off its right back on(dust). Normally don't care about that kind of thing. But damn.

It's probably the same as for other things, but the PS3's finish makes it easier to see. It's the same way with fingerprints.

aaronwt

02-04-07, 05:24 PM

All my electrical components get dust on them just as fast as the PS3. I remember it always being that way for me for over 30 years. I try to dust them every week.

maverick0716

02-04-07, 07:09 PM

The PS3's finish must be static charged or something because dust just gloms onto it. I wiped some anti static spray onto it, however, and the problem is gone.

jwv651

02-04-07, 11:09 PM

The PS3's finish must be static charged or something because dust just gloms onto it. I wiped some anti static spray onto it, however, and the problem is gone.Yes I agree the PS3 does produced a lot of static which in turn attracks dust. Anti static spray sounds good. Thanks for the info. :)

strpyw

02-05-07, 01:07 AM

I am using the PS3 both as game console and blue ray dvd player.
Should I buy extended warranty?It costs 175 and covers two years, including accidental destruction of the player.

jsil

02-05-07, 01:31 AM

aak

02-05-07, 02:05 AM

maverick0716

02-05-07, 02:21 AM

maverick0716

02-05-07, 02:23 AM

I'm thinking about getting a PS3 for blu-ray only. I have the epson 400 projector and it's resolution is 720p will the PS3 out it at 480p for blu-ray playback. Do I need to set the PS3 to 1080p or 1080i and let the epson down convert to 720p Thanks. :confused:

If you tell your PS3 that your display can support 480p, 720p, and 1080i, then it will output Blu Ray movies at 1080i (and then your projector will downconvert to 720p). If you don't do this, then the PS3 will automatically output at 480p.......it shouldn't do this, but it does for some reason. It doesn't matter though because there is no loss in quality by choosing 1080i.

SirDrexl

02-05-07, 02:41 AM

There's only one HDMI out on the PS3.......why would they have more than one?

Back when they first showed it at E3 in 2005, it was going to have 2 HDMI outputs (for 2 separate monitors, apparently). That was scrapped, along with 2 extra ethernet ports.

aak

02-05-07, 03:47 AM

Thanks for reply .
I think I have to use component output for Samsung.
HDMI for Epson.

I am very dissapointed.

HDCP will be my new enemy.

tooleey

02-05-07, 05:32 AM

aaronwt

02-05-07, 07:50 AM

I am planning to buy PS3 in march after european launch.

But I demoed 60 gb Japanversion and I couldn't find second HDMI out on it.

I have Samsung 720p DLP rptv and Epson TW520 720p projector.

How can I connect PS3 via HDMI simultaneuosly.

You need to get an HDMi compliant HDMI splitter. Connectgear has a 1x2 splitter. I ordered one for $90. Monoprice also has a good HDCP compliant HDMI 1x2 splitter for around $125. I'm still waiting for my Connectgear splitter. Monoprice is extremely fast when shipping their products out. Apparently Provantage isn't.

dc_pilgrim

02-05-07, 07:54 AM

aak - you can always get an HDMI switch with 2-out. I think Gefen has one.

Tooley - it will play ps1 games. There were some issues with the graphics on ps2 games, not sure if ps1 games were effected also. Recent firmware fixed this. You'll need new controllers - it might be possible to find usb adapters, but the new ones are wireless. It plays Blu ray and DVD @480p. DVD's won't be upconverted to a higher rez at this time. May come in a later firmware. Your display may already be doing this well anyways. Can't tell you if the blu ray will look better. I would imagine so, but incrimentally.

bommai

02-05-07, 10:18 AM

I am using the PS3 both as game console and blue ray dvd player.
Should I buy extended warranty?It costs 175 and covers two years, including accidental destruction of the player.

I bought mine using American Express card. I believe they double the manufacturers warranty. So, if the PS3 warranty is one year, I get two years.

bplewis24

02-05-07, 11:14 AM

I am using the PS3 both as game console and blue ray dvd player.
Should I buy extended warranty?It costs 175 and covers two years, including accidental destruction of the player.

Where were you going to purchase this warranty from? Sony or the store you bought it at?

Bommai, I did the same thing you did. Amex for the x2 warranty extension. That's how I purchase all of my electronics.

Brandon

lyris

02-05-07, 12:29 PM

For those who are interested in another review of the PS3 as a Blu-ray / NTSC DVD player:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63973

Overall: 8/10
The PS3 is an incredibly capable Blu-ray, DVD, and media player, not to mention a good value one.

jsil

02-05-07, 12:31 PM

Thanks maverick0716 for your input. I will try that and see what happens.

SirDrexl

02-05-07, 12:47 PM

I really enjoy this forum. Not only do I get intelligent answers, but they also seem to be for the most part, unbiased. I have an old PS1 player and of course PS1 games, which raises questions.
1.) If I decide to purchase a new Blu-ray player for movies, will it also play my old PS1 game discs?

By "Blu-ray player," do you mean any BD player? Only the PS3 will play the PS games.

2.) Will I need to go out and purchase controllers or can I use the ones from my PS1 box?

On the PS3, you can use the controller that comes with it. It doesn't rumble though. At this time, there is no way to connect PS/PS2 controllers to the PS3, but there may be an adapter at some point.

3.) The Blu-Ray will also play regular rented DVD movies and DVD-R disc that I make on my Mac, right?

I really don't know about DVD-Rs, but they should work. DVDs will play of course, although they won't upscale at this time.

4.) Is there truly THAT much difference in watching a regular DVD on a brand new Sharp LCD 52" TV vs a Blu-Ray Disc?
Thanx Much, Pat

Well, a lot of us seem to think so! :) It varies from title to title though. I've noticed an improvement with every disc I've watched so far on both formats, but in some cases it was subtle, while others were night and day. Check reviews, as they will generally say whether the disc is a big improvement or not. Also, check out the Tier thread to see what are considered by members to be the best overall looking titles.

lyris

02-05-07, 02:42 PM

3 - Yes, both work fine.

4 - On a good disc, YES. On a not so good disc, yes.

jschefdog

02-05-07, 05:57 PM

Thanks for reply .
I think I have to use component output for Samsung.
HDMI for Epson.

I am very dissapointed.

HDCP will be my new enemy.
If you only want to watch on one display at a time you might be able to use an inexpensive mechanical 2x1 HDMI switch like the ones at Monoprice. There was some discussion about this somewhere in AVS but I don't remember where. These switches are designed to switch two HDMI sources to a single input, but you can also hook up two displays to one HDMI output. You can only send the output to one display or the other, not both at the same time. To send to both at the same time you need a more expensive HDCP compliant distribution splitter.

For what it's worth, I haven't yet seen any player that has more than one HDMI output.

pcrx

02-05-07, 06:25 PM

Owned:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070205.GAMER05/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

La Esponja

02-05-07, 07:20 PM

Owned:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070205.GAMER05/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

Yes you are absolutely right! That guy and many others looking to make a profit by gauging people did get owned.

If you meant the PS3, then you are misguided. We will not know whether that is the case or not for a while.

lockdown

02-05-07, 08:06 PM

If you only want to watch on one display at a time you might be able to use an inexpensive mechanical 2x1 HDMI switch like the ones at Monoprice. There was some discussion about this somewhere in AVS but I don't remember where. These switches are designed to switch two HDMI sources to a single input, but you can also hook up two displays to one HDMI output. You can only send the output to one display or the other, not both at the same time. To send to both at the same time you need a more expensive HDCP compliant distribution splitter.

For what it's worth, I haven't yet seen any player that has more than one HDMI output.

i have this switch from monoprice and it works with my ps3 going straight into my xr57, which in turn outputs to my plasma...

bommai

02-06-07, 01:29 AM

I have been enjoying the PS3 as a BD/DVD player for the past 3 days. I got the Bluetooth remote today. I thought the remote would somehow enable me to play the DVD even though it is in the normal PS menu. I still had to navigate to the BD-ROM menu and then select the BD-ROM to play. I wish they had a shortcut in the remote to enable playback by just clicking on a button. This will make it harder for my wife and 4.5 year old daughter to play movies. They just need to make sure it is in standby before inserting the DVD or waking it up. I hope there is a software update to enable the playback automatically. Even a Mac or PC can do that upon insertion of the appropriate media. It could even be rules based as per individual preferences.

maverick0716

02-06-07, 01:36 AM

I also got my PS3 about 3 days ago and I love it for Blu Ray playback! Even regular DVDs look good using it.......just as good as my Panasonic S97 upconverting player that I packed away. I couldn't stand using the PS3 game controller so I bought the Blu Ray remote, which made it much easier to operate.

smohaban

02-06-07, 03:07 AM

Hi,

I have a question for the experts in this forum. I recently got a PS3 and have been using it also for BD playback. It is connected with HDMI to a Denon AVR-2807 and from there, again with HDMI, to my Panny TH-50PX60U.
The image look quite stunning except for one effect that I can't ignore - it seems a bit grainy, or snowy, which is especially obvious e.g. when the screen is entirely dark. When I turn the PS3 off then the screen turns entirely black, but when it is on you do see a little white snow effect throughout the screen.
Anybody has a clue how to get rid of that? Can it be because the HDMI cables are of low quality (I am using some brand-less cables)? Anything else?

Many thanks!

jd213

02-06-07, 05:11 AM

For those who are interested in another review of the PS3 as a Blu-ray / NTSC DVD player:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63973

Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not the PS3 passes blacker than black for Blu-Ray movies? This review says that it probably doesn't. This is a damn serious issue...

Edit: Whoops, NM. Found the answer earlier in this thread, sorry.

DarkKnight2k4

02-06-07, 07:50 AM

My PS# autoplays upon insertion. No need to manuever the menu. Doesn't yours ?

sycho316

02-06-07, 08:38 AM

dmass

02-06-07, 09:51 AM

jasonDono

02-06-07, 09:56 AM

My PS# autoplays upon insertion. No need to manuever the menu. Doesn't yours ?
It does this if the unit is off. If the PS3 is already on, you have to navigate to Video/BD and select the disc. I agree, there should be an option to autoplay BD even if the unit is already on.

dagostino

02-06-07, 10:14 AM

hi guys

i just order the PS3 in EUROPE when well came on 23th march,but i am a little worry because i buy the blu ray dvd from US and the PS3 is from europe.

i try the blu ray samsung the europe one and play them well the US blu ray dvd

well play the US blu ray dvd on PS3 (europe)

I NEED HELP PLEASE

dagostino

SonnyAZ

02-06-07, 10:37 AM

Owned:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070205.GAMER05/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

What does this have to do with using the PS3 as a Blu-ray player? Stay on topic please, and take juvenile comments like this to the Playstation forum where all the 12 year olds hang out. Cheers.

dagostino

02-06-07, 10:48 AM

What does this have to do with using the PS3 as a Blu-ray player? Stay on topic please, and take juvenile comments like this to the Playstation forum where all the 12 year olds hang out. Cheers.

i just ask a question ***hole

yuichiror

02-06-07, 10:54 AM

i just ask a question ***hole
SonnyAZ was not referring to your post.

From what I know, the Blue Ray regions are different from DVD regions. The US and Japan are in the same region but Europe is not. So I would think that would would NOT be able to play US BD's on a European PS3.

SonnyAZ

02-06-07, 10:56 AM

i just ask a question ***hole

I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the person quoted in my email. I think you owe me an apology.

Connavar

02-06-07, 11:01 AM

At this time, there is no way to connect PS/PS2 controllers to the PS3, but there may be an adapter at some point.

That's incorrect, you can use PS/PS2 <=> USB converters that were made for PCs, they also work with the PS3.
I'm using one myself, because I didn't want to buy another SixaxiS pad, and it works fine, except no motion sensing :)

However the pad requires to have the "analog" button, but that comes on all Dual Shock 1 and Dual Shock 2 so it shouldn't be an issue.

bplewis24

02-06-07, 11:02 AM

lol...I don't even know what just happened.

Brandon

dagostino

02-06-07, 11:02 AM

I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the person quoted in my email. I think you owe me an apology.

i apology to you and i am very sorry

dagostino

jank0023

02-06-07, 11:18 AM

Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not the PS3 passes blacker than black for Blu-Ray movies? This review says that it probably doesn't. This is a damn serious issue...

Edit: Whoops, NM. Found the answer earlier in this thread, sorry.

It does not and I think it impacts viewing significantly...see my previous posts.

dagostino

02-06-07, 11:20 AM

SonnyAZ was not referring to your post.

From what I know, the Blue Ray regions are different from DVD regions. The US and Japan are in the same region but Europe is not. So I would think that would would NOT be able to play US BD's on a European PS3.

but why when i try the BDP1000 sumsang player (europe one) was playing ok with no region the US BD and the europe BD,because i need the PS3 for only to play BD not for play games or i have to cancel the order and buy a new blu ray player.

what shall i do?

dagostino

smohaban

02-06-07, 11:29 AM

I have the EXACT same setup, except commercial model of tv, the 9UK.
Which movie are you seeing the grain/snow? or is it all movies? I'll try to take a look at my set tonight.

I noticed that with a number of movies. Last night it was with Enron: The Smartest Guys in The Room.
I tried it just with Blue-Ray movies, not with standard DVDs.
Here is a stupid question: can the HDMI cable quality have any effect or does it transfer pure digital info, in which case either it works or it doesn't but quality should not be affected?

lyris

02-06-07, 12:57 PM

Here is a stupid question: can the HDMI cable quality have any effect or does it transfer pure digital info, in which case either it works or it doesn't but quality should not be affected?An HDMI cable transmits digital video, so it can't introduce snow.

Are you sure you aren't just watching a grainy film?
Bring up the PS3's on screen menus and see if the pattern appears over them. If not, then it's the disc.

If it does, something is seriously wrong.

lyris

02-06-07, 01:00 PM

well play the US blu ray dvd on PS3 (europe)
It will play some BDs (the ones that are region free) but not all.
Same with DVDs.

I live in the UK and I'd recommend that you import a US or Japanese model so you're in Blu-ray Region A so you can buy US discs instead.

bommai

02-06-07, 02:05 PM

It does this if the unit is off. If the PS3 is already on, you have to navigate to Video/BD and select the disc. I agree, there should be an option to autoplay BD even if the unit is already on.

Exactly. Many times, we are already doing something with the PS3 and then we insert a movie and then nothing happens. I thought hitting play in the DVD remote will do the trick, but it does not. Auto-play guarantees simplicity. What we need are rules for CD, DVD, BD, etc. For audio-cd, the choices in the rules could be, play or import and eject, or something like that. For DVD movie and BD movie, it could be do nothing or play. These rules are simple and are already implemented in Mac OS X.

1920x1080

02-06-07, 04:24 PM

An HDMI cable transmits digital video, so it can't introduce snow......not of the analog type, certainly; but poor Q HDMI or DVI cables (typically lousy workmanship attaching the connector to the conductors) and/or longer runs can cause "sparkles" to appear on a digital display. Sometimes enough data is dropped or interference is injected to cause the video to simply mute altogether intermittently (although it's not the only cause of this).

SonnyAZ

02-07-07, 03:18 PM

I'm new to this forum so please bear with me if this has already been posted/discussed.

I'm interested in BluRay (I'm not a gamer) but don't want to spend the $1500 for the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1.

A nice feature of the Pioneer is the ability to play audio, video and jpeg files that are stored on a PC. Is the PS3 able to be used as a media center (with playback from a PC NOT the unit's 60gb hd) similar to the Pioneer BDP-HD1?

The PS3 will not directly network to your PC to access those files, unfortunately, but you can transfer those files to the PS3 via a USB drive. The 60GB model supports a variety of memory card formats if you choose to go that route, enabling you to use the memory cards you may already have for your digital cameras.

bommai

02-07-07, 03:25 PM

yuichiror

02-07-07, 03:34 PM

Has anyone tried hooking up an external USB hard drive to the PS3. Did you try with FAT32 file format? Has anyone tried with a unix file format (UDF). I can format a HD in both FAT32 and UDF on my mac and put some media in it. I wish network support will come soon.
I tried it with a USB drive, formated in FAT32, but didn't have any luck in picking up the mpeg4 file I had on it. I'm gonna try again with a SD card sometime soon.

Jeff_DML

02-07-07, 03:40 PM

Has anyone tried hooking up an external USB hard drive to the PS3. Did you try with FAT32 file format? Has anyone tried with a unix file format (UDF). I can format a HD in both FAT32 and UDF on my mac and put some media in it. I wish network support will come soon.

pretty sure it only supports FAT32 thus you are limited to 4GB file sizes, bummer for us who want to play recorded HD content, copying to the internal harddrive has problems too. Hopefully they address this in the infamous march firmware release

JKLionheart

02-07-07, 05:08 PM

I tried it with a USB drive, formated in FAT32, but didn't have any luck in picking up the mpeg4 file I had on it. I'm gonna try again with a SD card sometime soon.
Make sure it's not located in a folder, the PS3 doesn't handle folders well or at all. Also when you're highlighting the USB stick, hit Triangle and select "Show All" to get all files, even unrecognized formats. I've also had trouble w/ some MP4 files I converted using Red Kawa's PS3 Video 9.

bommai

02-07-07, 05:10 PM

pretty sure it only supports FAT32 thus you are limited to 4GB file sizes, bummer for us who want to play recorded HD content, copying to the internal harddrive has problems too. Hopefully they address this in the infamous march firmware release

I wish Sony would pull a "startup company" and start being transparent about what features are in the pipeline and a way for people to suggest and even help out. With Linux in the fray and open source benefits that come with it, they can definitely benefit.

My own wishlist:

Minor ones:
1) Add rules feature for Audio CD, SACD, DVD Video, Video BD-ROM - what should the PS3 do upon disc insertion. Choices for Audio CD are Play, Import, Do nothing, Choices for the rest are Play or Do nothing.

2) One click button on the DVD remote to turn off (standby) the playstation. Currently, I have to press and hold the PS button and then confirm standby. I couldn't do this today because I already turned off the TV and did not want to turn it on to see what the screen messages are.

Medium ones:

1) Add support for more bluetooth devices such as keyboards, mouse, etc.
2) Built-in browser needs more plug-in support. Hopefully Apple will write a Quicktime plugin!!

Major ones:

1) Full support for Network shares (NFS and Samba)
2) Full support for a variety of uPnP protocols. May be sony can provide a uPnP server that is guaranteed to work with PS3. Make this server run on Linux, Mac OS X and Windows. What I want is the PS3 to gain AppleTV like capabilities. I don't care about the DRM stuff. I don't buy DRM stuff anyway, but I would like to watch my iPhoto pictures and listen to my iTunes music (non-DRM), and watch a few of my eyeTV recordings on the PS3.
3) Support for streaming from a Slimserver. So, what we need is Soft Squeeze running on PS3. I already have a Slimserver running on my Mac in the 2nd floor delivering music to my living room through a Squeezebox 3. I would like the PS3 in the basement to be the second client. This client should support FLAC natively so that music can be streamed and played in a lossless codec. Enlist the Slimserver folks for this. They are open source and owned by Logitech - Hey isn't Logictec buddies with Sony for PS3 accessories now.

I am sure there are several other things people would like to do with their PS3. How about listing them or is this the wrong thread for it?

Indyjones

02-07-07, 07:25 PM

smohaban

02-07-07, 08:50 PM

I noticed that with a number of movies. Last night it was with Enron: The Smartest Guys in The Room.
I tried it just with Blue-Ray movies, not with standard DVDs.
Here is a stupid question: can the HDMI cable quality have any effect or does it transfer pure digital info, in which case either it works or it doesn't but quality should not be affected?
Hi guys,

I had the chance to do some more experimentation with my setup and found some interesting facts. The bottom line is that the problem I have got nothing to do with BD playback. It actually has nothing to do with the PS3. It seems that my Denon receiver (AVR-2807) adds the "noise"/snow...
When I connect the PS3 with HDMI directly to the Plasma TV it looks very clean. When I connect it, again with HDMI, to the receiver, and from there with HDMI to the TV it shows with all that noise. The effect is very evident when you look up close. If you look from far away it is harder to see...

From reviews I have read earlier I thought the AVR-2807 was supposed to be very good at handling video, and should handle ok 1080p. Do I need to do any special configuration to make it work well? Any ideas?

Many thanks!

jank0023

02-07-07, 08:58 PM

Has anyone else experienced this? Sorry if any of this has been addressed already.

I have my PS3 hooked up to a Samsung HLS-6187 via HDMI. The TV is a true 1080p set, it can accept and display a true 1080p signal.

However, when I set the display setting to 1080p on the PS3, the picture looks like crap. It looks very rough and has a sparkly, rainbow-type effect surrounding every object. Is this a PS3 problem? I tried two different HDMI cables which resulted in the same effect. It looks like this even in the PS3 setup menu, with no BD disc loaded.

Also, I noticed that the PS3 doesn't have a enhanced black level like other players. Will this be added in a future firmware update?

For those who are running a PS3 on a Sammy HLS series, what are your display settings at? Any recommendations?

I have a HLS5688W, basically same TV and have no problem other then I can't stand PS3 not have BTB. First are you using an HDMI cable, stupid question but if your using the standard composite cable your note getting 1080i output. Second make sure you change the picture settings. On that TV each input has its own picture controls. I use Movie mode and reduce contrast to around 40 or 45 and Brightness to 45 t o50...also turn off DNILE and NR. Hope this helps, I have no picture problems like your describing but if your using default picture settings it will not be correct.

J y E 4Ever

02-07-07, 11:20 PM

Well, I gave up. My PS3 is heading back to SONY's warranty repair / exchange center in Texas.

Before I gripe about my problem allow me to commend SONY for excellent customer service regarding my dilema. No hassle, free shipping both ways and in a timely fashion.

Anyways, back to my problem, one which I believe others are also unfortunately experiencing.

1080i works fine going thru my Onkyo 674 but 1080p has massive horizontal video break up (flickering) which looks like the image is having a seizure! That being said, when the PS3 is connected directly to the TV, the 1080p works fine.

Be advised that my HD-DVD HD-XA2 player outputs 1080p flawlessly onto my 1080p capable LCD and it's being routed thru the same Receiver.

I didn't ask for this problem, I just wanted everything to work and my wish almost came true!

I'm not here to blame the PS3 and I was very honest with my opinion to the SONY representatives.

It's just frustrating believing that the cause of this problem might be due to the HDCP handshake between the PS3 and the Onkyo! Who the heck knows!

Onkyo sure didn't when I called them but nor did SONY to be honest here.

I chose the PS3 as the problem child due to 1080p working fine from my XA2!

I even tried switching the HDMI cable (silly me) but no success!

xbdestroya

02-07-07, 11:53 PM

Jon S

02-08-07, 12:15 AM

I am having audio issues with my PS3. I am having occasional static bursts of noise while playing Blu-Ray discs. On Superman Returns, the bursts of noise occurs every five minutes or so and is quite loud. Sometimes it lasts for a split second, sometimes for a couple of seconds. On Ice Age 2, I do not have the problem. I am using a 60GB PS3 with firmware 1.51 and connected to a Denon receiver via a TOSlink connection. Any ideas?

jd213

02-08-07, 03:30 AM

It does not and I think it impacts viewing significantly...see my previous posts.

Yeah, not having BTB is a serious issue. I'm definitely going to wait until a firmware upgrade fixes the black crush issue, or go with another player. Sucks because I've been really tempted to get one recently, and I already have one BD title that I'm itching to watch.

jank0023

02-08-07, 07:18 AM

I wonder if it might be an error in displaying the native 1080p material through your TVs wobulation, as the 'rainbow effect' you mention immediately brings to mind your set being DLP.

It has nothing to do with Wobulation or an actual rainbow affect. Rainbow affect is due to color wheel and would not be causing the problem he describes. The new Samsung's barely have rainbows and I have only seen one in 6 months. Obviously everyone's are a different, but with the increase speed of the color wheel rainbows have been greatly reduced and most ppl do not see them on the new sets. With that said even if you did see them you would not see them around every object.

Charles R

02-08-07, 08:45 AM

Yeah, not having BTB is a serious issue. I'm definitely going to wait until a firmware upgrade fixes the black crush issue, or go with another player. Sucks because I've been really tempted to get one recently, and I already have one BD title that I'm itching to watch.Just curious as to how Blacker than Blacker is a serious issue? Since you aren't suppose to see BTB anyway and how is black crush involved since it isn't related to BTB.

Charles R

02-08-07, 09:31 AM

Also, I noticed that the PS3 doesn't have a enhanced black level like other players. Will this be added in a future firmware update?Typically this allows you to set IRE black at 0 to 7.5 and only effects component.

dmass

02-08-07, 10:21 AM

Hi guys,

I had the chance to do some more experimentation with my setup and found some interesting facts. The bottom line is that the problem I have got nothing to do with BD playback. It actually has nothing to do with the PS3. It seems that my Denon receiver (AVR-2807) adds the "noise"/snow...
When I connect the PS3 with HDMI directly to the Plasma TV it looks very clean. When I connect it, again with HDMI, to the receiver, and from there with HDMI to the TV it shows with all that noise. The effect is very evident when you look up close. If you look from far away it is harder to see...

From reviews I have read earlier I thought the AVR-2807 was supposed to be very good at handling video, and should handle ok 1080p. Do I need to do any special configuration to make it work well? Any ideas?

Many thanks! My experience is with the 4306. It is passing through 1080p flawlessly. make sure HDMI out is set to "through" so the receiver is not trying to convert the signal. At that point it should just be routing it, and not processing it. IS your plasma taking 1080p in ? if not then set the ps3 to output what you want to input.

good luck

Jeff_DML

02-08-07, 11:21 AM

Just curious as to how Blacker than Blacker is a serious issue? Since you aren't suppose to see BTB anyway and how is black crush involved since it isn't related to BTB.

yeah I was wondering this too, I guess it depends on the content. As we know PS3 doesnt pass BTB and WTW and my Toshiba HD-DVD A2 does not either via HDMI. Last night I figured out the A2 does pass it via component last night and spent a decent amount of time switching between HDMI and component comparing while watching scenes of Terminator 3 on HD-DVD. I could not find any scenes where BTB or WTW was used and made a difference. So I am figuring it depends on the movie and whether they use BTB or WTW? :confused:

slksc

02-08-07, 11:40 AM

home_theatre_man

02-08-07, 12:31 PM

I'm still a little confused about SACD output from the PS3. I know that SACD requires HDMI; no problem. But is multi-channel SACD limited to HDMI 1.3? I have an HDMI receiver (Denon 2807) but of course it's 1.1.The PS3 outputs multi-channel SACDs to my HDMI 1.1 AVR as PCM. The PS3 will not send the DSD stream, which is not supported by HDMI 1.1.

Chase

Megalith

02-08-07, 12:35 PM

Can the PS3 output SACD through SPDIF if it is downmixed to 2.0?

Charles R

02-08-07, 12:48 PM

I could not find any scenes where BTB or WTW was used and made a difference. So I am figuring it depends on the movie and whether they use BTB or WTW? :confused:In most cases with a digital display (properly adjusted) you will never see BTB or WTW. Based on the simple reason your display's setting for black will be at the lowest level your display can project and your display's white level will be at the highest. However some analog sets will display both even when calibrated properly based on the their display technology.

Jeff_DML

02-08-07, 12:51 PM

In most cases with a digital display (properly adjusted) you will never see BTB or WTW. Based on the simple reason your display's setting for black will be at the lowest level your display can project and your display's white level will be at the highest. However some analog sets will display both even when calibrated properly based on the their display technology.

yeah I know, I tweaked my setting so I could see them. I read somewhere that some calibrators allow a bit of BTB to been seen or was that wtw.

Indyjones

02-08-07, 12:55 PM

My experience is with the 4306. It is passing through 1080p flawlessly. make sure HDMI out is set to "through" so the receiver is not trying to convert the signal. At that point it should just be routing it, and not processing it. IS your plasma taking 1080p in ? if not then set the ps3 to output what you want to input.

good luck

This might be the problem why my 1080p signal looks like crap. I have both the PS3 and HD-A1 running to my receiver via HDMI then out to my tv via HDMI. I also have the HDMI upcoverting signal on the receiver set to "on", so that all of my analog video inputs are be routed and converted to HDMI. I don't have the resolution upconversion selected "on" though, just the analog signal. I'm using a Yamaha RX-V1600 receiver by the way.

So would this be causing my 1080p problems with the PS3?

home_theatre_man

02-08-07, 05:43 PM

Can the PS3 output SACD through SPDIF if it is downmixed to 2.0?I have been unable to get the PS3 to output SACDs in any shape or form through S/PDIF.

Chase

Dan Hitchman

02-08-07, 06:02 PM

vvista

02-08-07, 06:35 PM

The PS3 outputs multi-channel SACDs to my HDMI 1.1 AVR as PCM. The PS3 will not send the DSD stream, which is not supported by HDMI 1.1.

Chase

The spec sheet on hdmi.org said

HDMI 1.1 add DVD-Audio support
HDMI 1.2 add SACD support

Can you please confirm?

TIA! :)

raphaelchan

02-08-07, 06:54 PM

tvted

02-08-07, 08:23 PM

Yeah, not having BTB is a serious issue. I'm definitely going to wait until a firmware upgrade fixes the black crush issue, or go with another player. .

I keep seeing this - the PS3 does *not* crush blacks on a properly calibrated display. It is quite true that it does not pass <16 >235 codes which the processing can make use of for rounding errors but on a display that is correctly calibrated <16 should not be visible (unless you are referring to CRT float). >235 would be handled differently.

Simply because the data is *clipped* does not mean the low IRE's are *crushed*. Perhaps those who experience this *crushing* problem should take a serious look at the gamma settings for their display. A higher gamma - which on some displays can actually be a lower numerical value can result in the lower IRE values being compressed with a display that doesn't have a high ON/Off Contrast ratio.
This (http://www.datacolor.com/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=338) page delineates the various settings and charting and the resultant picture. Scroll down the page and see what incorrect gamma setting can do to a picture.

I've yet to experience *crushed* blacks on my pj except where black levels are poorly - MIII being an example.

Be aware I am not suggesting that <16 >235 do not have value but this should only apply to the display's processing and should not crush blacks or whites.

ted

PooperScooper

02-08-07, 08:52 PM

If BTB or WTW video exists on the disc (and it does, but not often) it will be lost and the info will be displayed incorrectly ("crushed" to the black or reference white endpoint). However, it won't happen often and probably unnoticeable unless you know it's there. And like Ted said, on digital displays you wouldn't see BTB info anyway. I remember seeing some posts where people showed BTB in some DVDs, but nobody bothered with WTW. IIRC, the "desert scene" video on DVE has WTW info. The clipping on the PS3 is nowhere near as obnoxious as what happens when converted to PC levels, like on the Tosh units connect to DVI displays.

larry

bfdtv

02-08-07, 09:09 PM

May I know if I buy the coming Denon HDMI 1.3 AV receiver with DTS- HD decoder would PS3 able to transmit the 7.1 channel data to Denon for decoding? or do I still have to wait for the firmware update? Your help is appreciated.Not yet.

But presumably Sony will enable that functionality once receivers with DTS-HD decoding actually become available.

bfdtv

02-08-07, 09:12 PM

Has anyone else experienced this? Sorry if any of this has been addressed already.

I have my PS3 hooked up to a Samsung HLS-6187 via HDMI. The TV is a true 1080p set, it can accept and display a true 1080p signal.

However, when I set the display setting to 1080p on the PS3, the picture looks like crap. It looks very rough and has a sparkly, rainbow-type effect surrounding every object. Is this a PS3 problem? I tried two different HDMI cables which resulted in the same effect. It looks like this even in the PS3 setup menu, with no BD disc loaded.

Also, I noticed that the PS3 doesn't have a enhanced black level like other players. Will this be added in a future firmware update?

For those who are running a PS3 on a Sammy HLS series, what are your display settings at? Any recommendations?Did you just buy this display? It sounds like you are affected by RBE (rainbow effect), which is perceived by anywhere from 5% to 20% of the population -- depending on who you believe.

If you are seeing this rainbows around image edges, you should return the display and choose a different technology (such as LCOS, also known as D-ILA and SXRD), or wait for the 2007 Samsung DLPs with LED backlighting, which eliminates RBE. You can read more on the new 2007 Samsungs DLPs with LED, coming in April, in the Rear Projection forum.

gunbunnysoulja

02-08-07, 09:46 PM

gunbunnysoulja

02-08-07, 10:01 PM

Is it possible to connect a PS3 to a DVD recorder via composite or S-Video output 480i? It seems this should be similar to recording a HD signal with an HD STB output of 480i on an HD signal.

gunbunnysoulja

02-08-07, 10:03 PM

In regards to my last post, I am aware that the recorded data will not be HD, although recorded SD from an HD signal still looks pretty good.

bommai

02-09-07, 01:24 AM

Not yet.

But presumably Sony will enable that functionality once receivers with DTS-HD decoding actually become available.

The advanced mode disks have to have the decoding done in the player itself. I actually prefer everything happening with PS3 and then PS3 sends the 7.1 PCM to the receiver through HDMI. That way, the PS3 can implement new features while we can spend once on the receiver and be done with it.

bfdtv

02-09-07, 08:21 AM

The advanced mode disks have to have the decoding done in the player itself. I actually prefer everything happening with PS3 and then PS3 sends the 7.1 PCM to the receiver through HDMI. That way, the PS3 can implement new features while we can spend once on the receiver and be done with it.
Yes, but there are no advanced content disks yet on Blu-ray, afaik. At some point in the future, yes, Blu-ray disks will be released that require decoding in the player.

samdu

02-09-07, 09:28 AM

Did you just buy this display? It sounds like you are affected by RBE (rainbow effect), which is perceived by anywhere from 5% to 20% of the population -- depending on who you believe.

If you are seeing this rainbows around image edges, you should return the display and choose a different technology (such as LCOS, also known as D-ILA and SXRD), or wait for the 2007 Samsung DLPs with LED backlighting, which eliminates RBE. You can read more on the new 2007 Samsungs DLPs with LED, coming in April, in the Rear Projection forum.

What y'all may be seeing is the same thing I see on my Sceptre X42. I'm not sure how the Sammy works, but I've discovered some interesting things about the HDMI connection and the Sceptre. If I set the Sceptre to HDMI or HDCP, I get pink and or purple artifacts around objects on the PS3, but ONLY on the interface, browser (store and web), and games. It looks absolutely beautiful on movies. However, if you switch the mode on the TV to DVI, the interface and games look amazing, but movies have color issues. I have absolutely no idea why things work this way, but there it is. If there's a DVI mode on the Samsung, try switching to that. You'll still get 1080p from the PS3 interface and games. Then switch over to HDMI/HDCP for Blu-Ray or DVD movies.

Edit - Knew I forgot something :)

The same thing happens with my PC, so it's apparently not just a PS3 thing. Of course, I never thought much of it on the PC as it IS actually using a DVI connection over a DVI to HDMI adapter.

dmass

02-09-07, 11:27 AM

This might be the problem why my 1080p signal looks like crap. I have both the PS3 and HD-A1 running to my receiver via HDMI then out to my tv via HDMI. I also have the HDMI upcoverting signal on the receiver set to "on", so that all of my analog video inputs are be routed and converted to HDMI. I don't have the resolution upconversion selected "on" though, just the analog signal. I'm using a Yamaha RX-V1600 receiver by the way.

So would this be causing my 1080p problems with the PS3? I don't know the yamaha, but are you sure it can handle 1080p ? i saw an ad for the 1700 that said something like "adds 1080p pass through " try feeding it 1080I. I would assume that the setting on the analog inputs should'nt affect the 2 HDMI inputs, but stranger things have happened. My setup has a tosh a2 and a PS3 into the AV receiver then the av receiver to the TV. i have played with analog inputs, but am not using any now. I upconvert my DVD's on the Tosh, so it is 1080i and the PS3 is set to 1080p (i bought the denon in part because it clearly stated it would pass through 1080p)

home_theatre_man

02-09-07, 01:27 PM

Too much data for the optical cord since it outputs at 24 bit/88.2 kHz LPCM for multi-channel, and ~24 bit/176 kHz LPCM for stereo (it is supposed to increase sampling rates in a later firmware update). SA-CD is only via HDMI.Yep. When I saw that the PS3 was outputting PCM for SACDs, I had a very small hope that the 2-channel mix would be available in some form through S/PDIF -- so someone without HDMI could at least listen to it. No dice.

Chase

home_theatre_man

02-09-07, 01:35 PM

The spec sheet on hdmi.org said:

HDMI 1.1 add DVD-Audio support
HDMI 1.2 add SACD support

Can you please confirm?That's correct. The PS3 is converting DSD on SACDs to PCM and sending that to my 1.1 AVR.

HDMI 1.2 enabled the DSD stream to be sent directly.

Chase

BrianEK

02-09-07, 05:20 PM

If your HDTV can accept only 480p/i and 1080i, you will get 480p video for the games. If your HDTV can also accept 720p, then you get 720p.

Read your HDTV manual. Or just check your settings and try it out.

fuad

Does this hold true for Blu-ray movies as well? I am going to be purchasing a Samsung 50" DLP 720p and want to make sure I will get both games and blu-ray movies in 720p. Don't want either being downscaled to 480p.

yuichiror

02-09-07, 05:30 PM

Does this hold true for Blu-ray movies as well? I am going to be purchasing a Samsung 50" DLP 720p and want to make sure I will get both games and blu-ray movies in 720p. Don't want either being downscaled to 480p.
It really depends on the TV. The PS3 will output the highest resolution your TV will ACCEPT, regardless of it's native resolution. My Sony will take a 1080i signal, but it's native resolution is 720p, so I see the picture in 720p. Don't don't all 720p TV's accept 1080i and or p signals?

JacobC1983

02-09-07, 05:52 PM

many don't accept 1080p signals

most accept 1080i

jedurocher

02-10-07, 09:18 AM

yuichiror

02-10-07, 09:31 AM

I have heard some rumors that Sony is also looking at hardware changes in the near future. Has anyone else heard this and would it coincide with the European release? I am in the market for a PS3, but do not want to get one if, in about a month, a newer chipset, etc. comes out.
There's a rumor of a new chipset with smaller components that's supposed to run with less voltage and cooler. I haven't heard that it'll run any faster.

BTW, I've been running into more issues with movies freezing. Nothing major, but annoying. Also the directional pad won't FF or RR BD's and the X button no longer pauses and starts movies. Anyone having similiar issues? I may go ahead with the BT remote now...

mudfootLgt

02-10-07, 09:56 AM

Also the directional pad won't FF or RR BD's and the X button no longer pauses and starts movies. Anyone having similiar issues? I may go ahead with the BT remote now...

there are certain movies that wont ff or rw using the buttons on the remote. for thos movies you have to hit the square button to bring up the on screen controls to perform those functions

yuichiror

02-10-07, 10:02 AM

there are certain movies that wont ff or rw using the buttons on the remote. for thos movies you have to hit the square button to bring up the on screen controls to perform those functions
Really? So it's movie specific? Hmm, I'm gonna have to test out some of my older BS's. Thanks!

J y E 4Ever

02-10-07, 10:14 AM

rlb

02-10-07, 11:09 AM

jedurocher

02-10-07, 11:12 AM

There's a rumor of a new chipset with smaller components that's supposed to run with less voltage and cooler. I haven't heard that it'll run any faster.

But as far as overall quality and other tweaks, most is updated via firmware? In other words, freezing issues, connectivity with the Onkyo sr674, etc.

wiggo

02-10-07, 11:22 AM

Oh well, is it the PS3, the 674, the cable, my neighbors's cat.....who the heck knows!?!?

According to Onkyo's specs on the 674, it's HDMI 1.1. The PS3 is HDMI 1.3, which supports twice the bitrate of 1.1. So despite Onkyo's claims of 1080p, it may be that the bit rate is exceeding its capabilities.

Or not. But it's how I'd bet.

bommai

02-10-07, 11:37 AM

Well folks, i'm sorry to report this but....

First let me begin by stating that my interaction with SONY was simply amazing! I have never, NEVER had an exchange of a product ever go this fast! Free shipping both ways. I sent out the PS3 on Wednesday 02/07 and just received the replacement a few hours ago Saturday morning 02/10 via overnight UPS and confirmed it's a replacement because of new serial number.

Now, onto the bad news. You guessed it.

1080p thru the Onkyo still really bad with the massive horizontal image break up!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So very depressing it really is!

Busted my butt to have everything HDMI and 1080p and yet once again we the consumer lose out!

Oh well, is it the PS3, the 674, the cable, my neighbors's cat.....who the heck knows!?!?

I simply give up.

I was in the market for a HDMI receiver. I currently have a Denon AVR-2803 that does not have HDMI. I have decided to hold off for another year before I jump on the receiver with HDMI. It looks like there needs to be a lot of progress that needs to be made by every vendor before HDMI is perfect. I don't want to sacrifice any image quality just because I have to go through the receiver instead of going to the TV directly from the PS3. I am almost tempted to go buy a refurbished Denon AVR-3806 for under $700, but I am sure it has had its share of HDMI issues.

bommai

02-10-07, 11:39 AM

There's a rumor of a new chipset with smaller components that's supposed to run with less voltage and cooler. I haven't heard that it'll run any faster.

BTW, I've been running into more issues with movies freezing. Nothing major, but annoying. Also the directional pad won't FF or RR BD's and the X button no longer pauses and starts movies. Anyone having similiar issues? I may go ahead with the BT remote now...

Yikes. I just bought a PS3. Should I have held off! I don't have any problems though. Love it. Just need software updates. As long as Sony does not stop supporting these PS3s I will be fine.

yuichiror

02-10-07, 11:42 AM

But as far as overall quality and other tweaks, most is updated via firmware? In other words, freezing issues, connectivity with the Onkyo sr674, etc.
Yup, firmware updates.

Jeff_DML

02-10-07, 12:10 PM

sony will optimize the chipset to bring down the costs to make the PS3. Functionality wise it be same current PS3. PS2 went through the same revisions (but I think they did add progressive to the dvd player later) Standard stuff for consumer electronics.

also I am pretty sure new revision of HDMI are required to be backwards compatible with older versions. So 1.3 PS3 should revert to 1.1 inorder to talk to a 1.1 device. 1.1 pretty sure has enough bandwidth for 1080p. My 1.2 Sharp TV supports 1080p.

nilsp

02-10-07, 01:40 PM

Yikes. I just bought a PS3. Should I have held off! I don't have any problems though. Love it. Just need software updates. As long as Sony does not stop supporting these PS3s I will be fine.

Nope. No reason to wait. Enjoy the excellent machine now, and more features as time goes by. Welcome the the owners club, btw. :)

mudfootLgt

02-10-07, 02:01 PM

Really? So it's movie specific? Hmm, I'm gonna have to test out some of my older BS's. Thanks!

no problem.. i have about 10 movies and the MI box set. i've also rented a boat load of movies from netflix and run across this a few times.. i prefer the controller to the blue tooth remote.. i'm familiar with the layout so its easier to navigate in the dark. but it would be nice if i could program my mx700 or my pronto to work with it

zoro

02-10-07, 02:10 PM

May I request some video settings on PS3 please using HDMI, on BR and SD DVDS!

I thought I saw some one mentioning some special options only via remote or sixaxis, search and search, could not locate.
thnx

Indyjones

02-10-07, 03:01 PM

I have my PS3 hooked up to a Samsung HLS-6187 via HDMI also. I have noticed a sparkly image, known as SSE, or silk screen effect. SSE is caused by textured screens on DLP's. You may have Contrast and Brightness up too high. Try using settings in the 40-50 range for both. If its RBE that your seeing, switch to a technology as stated above.

No, it's not SSE or RBE. It only happens when I go into the PS3 menu and select 1080p. Any other resolution, 1080i and less, looks fine. I think DMass hit the nail on the head. I don't think my receiver is capable of passing a 1080p signal via HDMI. :( I looked through the manual and it really doesn't say what video resolutions it will support, but I think Dmass is right. So it looks like I'll have to live with 1080i for the time being. I could hook the PS3 via HDMI directly to the tv, but then I would have to do a downgrade on the audio side of things and go optical, which I'm not really wanting to do. That would mean no more uncompressed PCM soundtracks.

So for those who can get a 1080p signal, is there a lot difference between 1080i and 1080p?