I've decided on the 42" Panny, has anyone seen it in stock at a local costco in So Cal. Alhambra only had a floor model. Has anyone gone to the Los Feliz, Montebello, or other close by Costco lately and see it?

Or does anyone know the restocking date for Costcos, I'm sure it varies by location.

Thanks!

I saw the 42" Panasonic at the Costco in Mission Valley in San Diego a couple days ago. They had several. Did you ask at your local Costco for them to tell you who has them? Costco is usually pretty helpful about checking their computer to tell you where you can find the item you want. Good luck.

Oh Thanks sdjdguy, I didn't know they had access to inventory accross stores on the store computers; I hate calling each store and being put on hold till someone else answers, only to be put on hold again, till the next person..... and so on......

I saw the 42" Panasonic at the Costco in Mission Valley in San Diego a couple days ago. They had several.

Well in the Las Vegas store the 42" Panny was marked "Display only for sale". They had none in boxes. Usually this means that they won't be getting anymore. No one on the floor seemed to know for sure but they thought that they probably would not be getting anymore.

Keith

Does the Costco 45"lcd sharp do well with ps2 games via component? How about compared with the 50"vizio?

My component cables for Xbox and PS2 are on the way. Once I get them I'll comment on how these two systems look on the 45" Sharp.

Does anyone knows if there are any 1080P's coming soon to costco? maybe the Aquos?
I returned my Scpetre bcz PQ problems and got me the philips 37" but not to thrill with the PC connection on that low res 1366x768 (u can't even get that good res with the Philips)
So I am looking to get me a diff 1080P and would love to get it at Costco.

Does Costco sell the Samsung S4253? Thanks

Costco sells a 65" commercial on their website. Otherwise, no.

FYI - it doesn't take a lot of effort to check their website or warehouse.

Quick question...I was looking at the Sharp in Sears today and it looks pretty frigin great. Does Costco have the all black version or do they have the version with grey speakers?

Theirs includes the grey speakers, which I like b/c it will likely look better with your other HT components (if visible).

Unless everything you have happens to be black, of course.

Has anyone seen the Panny 50" plasma sets in Northern CA or the greater San Francisco bay area? Most sightings seem to be in the East...

I was looking at the Sharp in Sears today and it looks pretty frigin great.

I should have known (or at least called). I decided I would walk down to my locate Sears store in to see what they could do on a Sharp LCD TV. I walked in and talked to the first guy who had a puzzled look on his face when I asked about "their LCD TVs." He referred me to the "expert" who proceeded to tell me I did not want a LCD TV that the plasmas were far superior and would work much better in my situation (brightly lit room with lots of windows, etc). Anyway, after convincing him he should listen to the customer wants rather than pushing opinions, he indicated he did not have any in stock (Sharp that is) and could only get the 37" (now I know why he has the opinion he has - sell what you have, not what the customer requests).

The interesting thing about our conversation is when he compared the plasma to "look at this " LCD TV. "See how much better the plasma is that it is." I said to the saleman, "Well gee sir, that is a rear projection TV" He fired back, "It's still an LCD and they are all the same."

So, my search continues. I am looking for the all black Sharp (45") but may have to settle for the grey & black from Costco.

So, my search continues. I am looking for the all black Sharp (45") but may have to settle for the grey & black from Costco.
I too was disappointed that the costco sharp wasnt all black and I was willing to buy it
because of the stunning picture and figured I would tolerate the cabinet. Now that I have it in my house I think it goes very well with my decor and all black in comparison would not look so good. I have a silver DVD player and some silver accents on my all black wall unit. To me its a really cool, classy, expensive looking tv. And if I could do it again I would CHOOSE the black and silver over the all black.
It looks very sexy IMHO.

I should have known (or at least called). I decided I would walk down to my locate Sears store in to see what they could do on a Sharp LCD TV. I walked in and talked to the first guy who had a puzzled look on his face when I asked about "there LCD TVs." He referred me to the "expert" who proceeded to tell me I did not want a LCD TV that the plasmas were far superior and would work much better in my situation (brightly lit room with lots of windows, etc). Anyway, after convincing him he should listen to the customer wants rather than pushing opinions, he indicated he did not have any in stock (Sharp that is) and could only get the 37" (now I know why he has the opinion he has - sell what you have, not what the customer requests).

So, my search continues. I am looking for the all black Sharp (45") but may have to settle for the grey & black from Costco.
On a side note---Ive found guys who work in Sears tv dept to be some of the most under-educated people when it comes to knowing ANYTHING about the product they are asking you to spend $2-4000 on. I cringe when I hear some of the idiotic things these guys say---
If I were you I would consider it a BONUS to buy from costco.
What if Sharp comes out with a 52" 1080p Aquos in 3 months for only a few hundred more ? Its nice to know you can return whenever you want to Costco...sears will rape you with a 15% restocking fee.
Costco = No buyers remorse.....

With said Costco return policy do you need the original box? My phillips LCD just got here and the box is a POS.

Costco now has a Visio 42" LCD for just a tad more than the 42" plasma. I have a Visio 42" plasma to return and cant decide between new Visio 50, Panny 42 or 50, Sharp 45 or now the Visio 42" LCD. Right now I am leaning towards one of the Panny's because in all 3 stores I went in, the Pannys were clearly sharper that all the rest. The Sharp was nice but was too dark and the colors werent as realistic as the plasmas (and almost double the price of the Visio 42). I did try adjusting all the sets and all had component hookups. I should just wait until the holidays and see what happens.

Well, I saw the new 50" Panny tonight at my Costco and all I can say is WOW. Great picture, sharp with great color. It also didn't seem to have as much glare/reflection as the other screens around it. I wonder if they are using some anti-glare finish on the glass now. It wasn't as glare free as the Sharp LCD but was a lot better than the Phillips, Toshiba and Visio.

Now I am back to trying to decide between the Sharp 45" LCD and the Panny 50" plasma. I think I may buy the Panny and try it out in my room. If I can stand the glare, I will take it back and get the Sharp.

If you have seen both Panny 50, & Sharp45 - please poll: Does sharp come in as a close #2 or is it Panny all the way?

They were not side by side but I would say the sharp was close to the panny. The one thing I noticed (my eyes are not like they use to be) was the panny picture seemed to move "smoother" than the sharp. It just seemed to have a more overall pleasing picture. Of course, I was standing 2 to 3 feet away. From a normal viewing distance, there may not be much of a different, except for the 5 extra inches of screen.

Both were using component connections off the Dish HD Demo feed

The one thing I forgot to do was get the model number off the panny. Does anyone know what it is?

If you have seen both Panny 50, & Sharp45 - please poll: Does sharp come in as a close #2 or is it Panny all the way?

I thought they looked very close in quality (although they were not side-by-side in Costco and I made no adjustments). I like the larger screen and the better picture quality of the Panasonic TH-50PX6U when viewed from a sharp (no pun intended) angle. (I have a loveseat in my family room that is at a sharp angle to the TV). I purchased the Panasonic.

So far (1 week) I'm absolutely amazed at the PQ of the Panny. Standard DVDs look much better than I expected them to. The HD channels are incredible.

Thanks to all of you have been posting information and opinions in this thread and elsewhere on this site. You have been extremely helpful.

Opie

If you have seen both Panny 50, & Sharp45 - please poll: Does sharp come in as a close #2 or is it Panny all the way?

My vote for Panny. I saw them both(not side by side) as well. Colors on panny was more true to nature and Sharp had brighter (like my dell Laptop 700M) screen.

I would vote for the Panny plasma (50PX6U) also. I picked this set up 2 weeks ago when it first hit the floor. I looked at the Sharp also, and it looked nice so I do not think that there is a winner and a loser here. I was very surprised by the deep blacks on the Sharp - about the best Ive seen on an LCD. However, I am able to control lighting reasonably well, will not be doing any gaming and liked the extra 5" of screen size, so I went with the Panny. The picture is excellent and the blacks are very deep. I too was amazed how well DVD's look. Especially since I am not using a high end player (I have the panny S52).

I really don't think that you can go wrong with either of these sets, especially when you consider Costco's return policy......

Keith

I would vote for the Panny plasma (50PX6U) also. I picked this set up 2 weeks ago when it first hit the floor. I looked at the Sharp also, and it looked nice so I do not think that there is a winner and a loser here. I was very surprised by the deep blacks on the Sharp - about the best Ive seen on an LCD. However, I am able to control lighting reasonably well, will not be doing any gaming and liked the extra 5" of screen size, so I went with the Panny. The picture is excellent and the blacks are very deep. I too was amazed how well DVD's look. Especially since I am not using a high end player (I have the panny S52).

I really don't think that you can go wrong with either of these sets, especially when you consider Costco's return policy......

Keith

Yeah I agree, you can't lose with either set, both are really nice. It comes down to personal preference and what you plan on doing with the TV. But definitely, the 50" and 42" Panny are the best plasma's Costco has ever carried and the the 45" Sharp LCD is the best LCD Costco has ever had available. I'm just glad that Costco has two quality displays that use dfiferent technologies. More choices are better than none.

madflava makes a good point. These are both REALLY good sets...definitely leagues above the other crap costco has. Although the Bravia looks good to me too. One thing I will say is that the Sharp 45 really shines using HDMI and the store seems to mostly have it hooked up on component. I recently went to CC to look at the all black version of the 45" sharp--
In Circuit City it really looked like crap and the Bravia looked much better. Which led me to believe that Circuit City hooked the sharp up via component and the Sony(which they have a higher profit margin) over HDMI....
When I looked at these same 2 sets at costco the sharp looked great, as did the bravia but I gave a slight edge to the sharp which is why I own it.
One thing that JUMPED out at me on the Sharp at Costco was that I could see it pretty clearly from like 30 feet away. It was just so bright....none of the plasmas were as bright or vivid.
For my viewing I like this as I can see the TV from my kitchen which is like 25 ft away from my family room. (Its sort of one big room).
Even though the panasonic may have LESS glare than the other plasmas it still has much MORE glare than the Sharp. This was a huge deciding factor for me---as I would have preferred 50" tv over 45". After all who wants to pay 3k for a tv that you cant really watch in the daytime ?

hey everyone- new here- but I wanted to say I just bought the 50 inch panasonic TH50PX6U from costco today- don't have any HD hooked up yet- so can't really judge the set. One thing though- the zoom feature seems to be grayed out in the menu (watching digital cable for now)- is this supposed to be like this? Also don't want to take the plunge for HD DVD player just yet- but I was thinking of getting another player that upconverts via HDMI- do you think this will be worthit? (only using S-cable now for movies)- thanks everyone and hello to all!
thetman

How does the new much cheaper vizio 42" lcd compete with sharp "45 If at all. Is sharp way better? vizio I like for vga 1:1 pixel mapping. I have only today to decide which pannel I will be picking up. Please advise

I haven't seen the 50" 6Us yet here in the DC area yet. Do they have the same ugly silver bezels that the 42" 6Us have?

How does the new much cheaper vizio 42" lcd compete with sharp "45 If at all. Is sharp way better? vizio I like for vga 1:1 pixel mapping. I have only today to decide which pannel I will be picking up. Please advise
let your eyes/wallet decide.
Im not blown away by Vizio products in general...I view a television as something to enjoy over a course of 6-8 years. So for me to pay even 1000 more for a tv I think its worth it over time. The sharp lcd is the best 45" lcd on the market today with unmatched black levels--I havent seen the vizio so I cant comment but I cant imagine it being in the same league bsed upon vizios other products.

To all who've purchased the Panasonic 6Us from Costo (50" or 42"):

Does your TV have a black bezel on top? The 42" I got last month is all silver. I was about to take it back, but I see the 6Us on the Panasonic website, and they are black.

What color is yours? Thanks.

50": http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&itemId=97744&catGroupId=24973&modelNo=TH-50PX6U&surfModel=TH-50PX6U&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702
42": http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&itemId=97743&catGroupId=24973&modelNo=TH-42PX6U&surfModel=TH-42PX6U&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702

Hmmm--Just read this on an lcdtv review site...something to consider.
So lets say you have your new sharp for 8 years and the bulb burns out or dims...
Some may never keep the tv this long or just throw it away..but I know if I did and wanted to move it to another room I could instead of throwing it away.

Taken from lcdtvbuyingguide.com---

"Note: Sharp is currently the only manufacturer that makes LCD displays whose lamps can be changed out. This is definitely something to consider, given that LCD monitors dim as their lightsources do, so being able to replace its lamp will restore your picture to "like new" levels"

50PX6U is exactly like 42PX6U ...its all silver. Quite different from the image on panny website for this model.

To all who've purchased the Panasonic 6Us from Costo (50" or 42"):

Does your TV have a black bezel on top? The 42" I got last month is all silver. I was about to take it back, but I see the 6Us on the Panasonic website, and they are black.

What color is yours? Thanks.

Another newbee here. I have 42PX6U and I compared my 4 year old panny dvd player(rv31) on component against the Toshiba upconvert(recently on sale at costco) thru HDMI. Didn't see much difference and returned the toshiba back


hey everyone- new here- but I wanted to say I just bought the 50 inch panasonic TH50PX6U from costco today- don't have any HD hooked up yet- so can't really judge the set. One thing though- the zoom feature seems to be grayed out in the menu (watching digital cable for now)- is this supposed to be like this? Also don't want to take the plunge for HD DVD player just yet- but I was thinking of getting another player that upconverts via HDMI- do you think this will be worthit? (only using S-cable now for movies)- thanks everyone and hello to all!
thetman

agree with what you said. we were all set to take either the panny 42 or sony bravia 40 home. but, when we saw the vizio lcd 42 we were completely surprised. we had completely written off the vizio plasmas (despite sound and vision review, etc) for the simple reason that at the store they all looked washed out.

but at our costco, we found the vizio 42 lcd directly next to the sharp 45 and thought it held up, if not looked better, than the sharp. just a few sets away, the panny and the sony were next to each other. we thought it looked better than the sony and as good as the panny. what sealed the deal was that later in the day with the sun and glare, the lcd looked great, while the plasmas were reflecting every bit of light.

decision made. the 42 lcd went home with us. value, pq, features. on a different note, if you google this model (gv42L). there's not a bit of press on it.

let your eyes/wallet decide. Im not blown away by Vizio products in general...I view a television as something to enjoy over a course of 6-8 years. So for me to pay even 1000 more for a tv I think its worth it over time. The sharp lcd is the best 45" lcd on the market today with unmatched black levels--I havent seen the vizio so I cant comment but I cant imagine it being in the same league bsed upon vizios other products.

let your eyes/wallet decide.
Im not blown away by Vizio products in general...I view a television as something to enjoy over a course of 6-8 years. So for me to pay even 1000 more for a tv I think its worth it over time. The sharp lcd is the best 45" lcd on the market today with unmatched black levels--I havent seen the vizio so I cant comment but I cant imagine it being in the same league bsed upon vizios other products.

Surprise, surprise...I agree that the 42" Vizio LCD looks great too...when the 50" plasma came out last year I at the time agreed that it looked like crap too but it was another example of needing to tweak the settings (and making sure of course that the tv is using a component input)...I will agree that I'm not thrilled with their other products...

Harden,
I Have Seen The Panny's At Cost**. They Are Certainly Not All Silver. Part Of The Bezel Is A Deep Grey, Just As The Pic Indicates.

Yeah, the bottom party is grey while the top is silver.

But the pic on the box and website shows a black bezel. Just trying to see if there are 6Us that have black on them.

Went to check out LCDs at Costco (Durham, NC) today and once again came out with the conclusion that I always do - in-store comparisons are next to worthless.

The Vizio L37 was one of the older models with a non-functional backlight adjustment, meaning that it is an older rev, which apparently has a different panel with worse black levels. Not to mention the backlight can't be turned down to help those black levels.

The Philips 37PF7320A/37 looked completely green. At first I thought it was a wacky color temperature setting, but when I went to the user controls, everything looked normal, which I wouldn't expect if it were a simple setting. Looking at the back of the TV, some of the component cables were loose, which is what I suspect was happening. The picture was also very noisy, once again I suspect the cables. I've seen that TV there before and was fairly impressed with it, so I know this isn't typical.

The Sharp LC-40C37U and LC-40C45U were both very impressive. Colors and black levels both looked great...under the super bright warehouse lights, so it's really hard to judge accurately. Of course they were next to the old rev Vizio and screwed up Philips, so that complicated things a bit as well.

Picked up a Sony 40" LCD at the St Louis South County Costco today. They also had the 42" and 50" Panny plasma available. Didn't look at anything else. I had to carry this up one flight of stairs so I went with the LCD thinking it would be lighter. But actually the 42" Panny Plasma box didn't seem any heavier. This was for my mom. She is using it for OTA. It only took me few minutes to set up. Worked great with set top uhf/vhf antenna. Had to turn the backlight and picture down. They were both set at max from the factory.

SS

I was reading someone having trouble with their Panasonic TH-42PX6U they had purchased from Costco. ANother member quickly checked the complaint and pointing out that he had not adjusted his television and cable hook up properly. I can no longer find that post and am hoping someone can help me out.


I just purchased the Panasonic TH-42PX6U from Costco and picked up a HD Digital Box from Time Warner. I've done the installs and all and have a few questions.

1. Does the tv and cable signal auto adjust the frequency (1080i, 7xxp, etc.)?
2. Why is my tv pixelated on certain moments??
- During the HBOHD fight of Mosley/Vargas, there was some pixelation during fast exchanges up close. Quick jabs on the white part of the gloves were most noticeable. Small, but noticeable.
- Watching Huell Howser there was pixelation on the water where dolphins were swimming.


Are there adjustments i need to make? If so, any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Earlier today I stopped at Sams on the East side of St Louis (Fairview Heights). They had three Sony 40" inch Bravia's laying flat on top of each other on a pallet. The boxes are clearly marked to be stored upright. This may be another reason to shop Costco vs Sam's. They seem to handle the merchandise a little more carefully. YMMV. The checkout lines are shorter too.
They also had a 37" Samsung LCD laying flat. I think for the Sammy's that may be ok though.

I would vote for the Panny plasma (50PX6U) also. I picked this set up 2 weeks ago when it first hit the floor. I really don't think that you can go wrong with either of these sets, especially when you consider Costco's return policy......

Keith

Keith,

You actually bought that paticular model at Costco?

I know it's not on the web site.

I guess it's the "NEW" model that they just got.

Thanks, Tim

Hmmm--Just read this on an lcdtv review site...something to consider.
So lets say you have your new sharp for 8 years and the bulb burns out or dims...
Some may never keep the tv this long or just throw it away..but I know if I did and wanted to move it to another room I could instead of throwing it away.

Taken from lcdtvbuyingguide.com---

"Note: Sharp is currently the only manufacturer that makes LCD displays whose lamps can be changed out. This is definitely something to consider, given that LCD monitors dim as their lightsources do, so being able to replace its lamp will restore your picture to "like new" levels"

i thought the sony wega's bulbs could be replaced?

Anyone know if the Phillips 37" LCD that goes on sale tomorrow at Costco is worth it?
I live in a small apartment, and I'd only be sitting 6 feet from the screen, so I figure anything more than a 42" would be overkill.
Based on pictures I think its the 37PF9431D/37 model.

Just saw the next 42" Vizio LCD. Looked pretty good, especially for the price.

I too am thinking about getting the Sharp 45" LCD from Costco. I am debating between that set and the Panasonic 50" Plasma. Does anyone have any opinions?


me too... i just got back from Costco looking at both, wondering the same thing lol




also, if I go with the Panasonic, do they sell the wall mount kits there? I didn't see any there.

Hi All,

I have a $2k budget, and I was planning on getting the 42" Panny, but I haven't been able to find them in stock at costco. Just got a xbox 360, so I am now looking at LCD's. Narrowed it down to the 37" Aquos or the 40" Sony Bravia at costco. I would love the 45" costco, but its out of my budget.

I have a feeling that the sharp may provide a better picture, but is it negligible? I prefer the extra 3 inches in favor of the bravia as well. Then again the sharp also has 2 hdmi's.

Can any one please sway me? I'm such a follower, guide me!

also, if I go with the Panasonic, do they sell the wall mount kits there? I didn't see any there.

My Costco has them.

I went to get the 50" Panny and came home with the Sharp 45". After looking at the glare on the Panny and knowing my lighting situation, I determined the Sharp was going to work the best in my situation. I haven't got it unpacked yet. Something to look forward to!!!

Keith,

You actually bought that paticular model at Costco?

I know it's not on the web site.

I guess it's the "NEW" model that they just got.

Thanks, Tim

I got the 50PX6U two weeks ago. It was manufactured in June 2006. It is a great set, almost identical to the 60U. Many times what's on the floor at my local Costco is not on the web site.

One word of caution if you do decide on this model. The digital tuner does drop channels, just like the 60u (and 50u). Panasonic has issued a firmware update for the 60u models, but has not issued anything from this model yet. I called them this weekend to see if (and when) they would be issuing a fix for the 6U models. They said they did not know but would get back to me in a few days. I am afraid they may not do a firmware update for the 6U's since there are so few of them out there...

Keith

Hi All,

I have a $2k budget, and I was planning on getting the 42" Panny, but I haven't been able to find them in stock at costco. Just got a xbox 360, so I am now looking at LCD's. Narrowed it down to the 37" Aquos or the 40" Sony Bravia at costco. I would love the 45" costco, but its out of my budget.

I have a feeling that the sharp may provide a better picture, but is it negligible? I prefer the extra 3 inches in favor of the bravia as well. Then again the sharp also has 2 hdmi's.

Can any one please sway me? I'm such a follower, guide me!

Check out the new Vizio 42" LCD:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=701542

2 HDMI inputs like the Sharp, bigger than the Bravia. Opinions are mixed at this point, but it's much cheaper than either the Bravia or the Sharp.

I bought a Sharp LCD from costco about a year ago. Heres my experience on what to buy. I first looked at CRT RPTV and brought one home from a local retailer and it wasn't what I wanted and it was so big, but alot a members here were pushing them at that time. Then a local retailer had a 50" plasma msrp 8K discounted that looked great with the best PQ but theres more too it and don't let it sway you. Plasma has two issues. 1) floating blacks is the biggest problem. Do a forum search and read about it and know what it is and to look for. 2) Glare and reflections.

I ended up getting a Sharp 37" LCD from Costco and its worked well for me. Now if you do your homework LCD's have its issues also. Motion blur and Lag are two but I don't see them so its not an issue to me and believe there way overblown on AVS. The only problem which isn't a big problem is the lack of shadow detail with blacks.

If your considering a DLP or Lcos tv's I'd buy it at CC or BB for the extended warranty that will cover the bulb issue. Thats the problem with RPTV.

Now what I see what a problem is when you notice it and it bugs you. The problems I stated on plasma drove me crazy. The funny thing is when I started looking flat panel LCD wasn't even a consideration and thats what I ended up with.

Do your homework before buying and whats right for me might not be your choice, but LCD worked the best for me.

I got the 50PX6U two weeks ago. It was manufactured in June 2006. It is a great set, almost identical to the 60U. Many times what's on the floor at my local Costco is not on the web site.

One word of caution if you do decide on this model. The digital tuner does drop channels, just like the 60u (and 50u). Panasonic has issued a firmware update for the 60u models, but has not issued anything from this model yet. I called them this weekend to see if (and when) they would be issuing a fix for the 6U models. They said they did not know but would get back to me in a few days. I am afraid they may not do a firmware update for the 6U's since there are so few of them out there...

Keith

Keith,

Thanks for the info... what do you mean it "does drop channels" ?

Tim

Thanks for the advice.

I guess the biggest question i have, is that I see all these positive reviews re: the sharp model, and not as many, although positive, reviews on the bravia.

Just wondering if the pq of both models are comparable, and if it just comes down to viewer preferences. Or is there a noticable difference. I haven't been able to see them side by side, and even if i did, it would be in a costco/store situation.

thanks again.

Thanks for the advice.

I guess the biggest question i have, is that I see all these positive reviews re: the sharp model, and not as many, although positive, reviews on the bravia.

Just wondering if the pq of both models are comparable, and if it just comes down to viewer preferences. Or is there a noticable difference. I haven't been able to see them side by side, and even if i did, it would be in a costco/store situation.

thanks again.
Go to Costco's website and look at the Phillips 42" LCD. I'm very bias towards Sharp's but they do cost more. Some really like the Phillips and you should check it out and its below your budget. Sony make very nice LCD's but with Costco's liberal return policy I believe the Phillips is a tv to consider. Plus my only mistake I wish I would bought the 45" size but at the time they weren't available.

BTW: See if your local Costco has it on display and check it out. If not get a rain check.

Earlier today I stopped at Sams on the East side of St Louis (Fairview Heights). They had three Sony 40" inch Bravia's laying flat on top of each other on a pallet. The boxes are clearly marked to be stored upright. This may be another reason to shop Costco vs Sam's. They seem to handle the merchandise a little more carefully. YMMV. The checkout lines are shorter too.
They also had a 37" Samsung LCD laying flat. I think for the Sammy's that may be ok though.

Well not so sure, when I got my philips 37" LCD at Costco here in Hoover AL. they had the pallets of sharps and philips stacked upp right next to each other all laying down, not up like the box recommends it. I was amazed how can they do that. Not to say that when I got my TV I got a used unit really noticeable with hands printed on the screen and remote scratched and everythign, I return it same day and opened up the box of the next TV I got before putting it on my cart. I talked to the manager and they said they don't kjnow what happen, but it was an open box being sale as a brand new TV.
Just somethign to keep in mind, recheck your packaging befroe buying.

My local Costco - in Jacksonville, FL - finally ran out of the Vizio 50" sets. The employee I talked to there wasn't sure what was happening next, but there was no order in for more P50s.... he said maybe a new model, maybe Maxent 50s, or maybe nothing would replace it. Anyone have any insight on this?

Keith,

Thanks for the info... what do you mean it "does drop channels" ?

Tim

On digital channels only at times the channel will not tune, and a message such as "channel not available" will be displayed. This may happen for a few seconds or a few minutes and then the channel may (or may not) come back. If you rescan all channels, this will usually correct the situation, but only temporarily. This was a known problem with the 50U models and 60U models (and also many Panasonic LCD models) made in the last few years. The other models (including the 60U) have had this corrected by firmware update since last month, but so far Panasonic has not issued an update for the 6U models. I still have not heard back from them as to whether there will ever be a firmware update for the 6U models. So far my opinion of the Panasonic concierge service is that it is nice that you can usually talk to a live person in a reasonable amount of time, but they usually will tell you whatever it takes to get you off the phone and if they do promise to call you back with information they don't follow through.....

Keith

My local Costco - in Jacksonville, FL - finally ran out of the Vizio 50" sets. The employee I talked to there wasn't sure what was happening next, but there was no order in for more P50s.... he said maybe a new model, maybe Maxent 50s, or maybe nothing would replace it. Anyone have any insight on this?
theyre getting a 50 inch vizio with tuners...and of course, no cable card. so a clear qam tuner, especially on time warner cable, is as useless as tits on a bull.

I got to tell you guys I am more than happy with the new "to me" Costco's customer satisfaction policy I discovered yesterday.
I bought a Philips 37" LCD TV a week+ ago, and after I got home I found out there was a coupon on it starting this week, so I figured I'd go over there and check it out myself and maybe just return the TV and get me another one so I could use the coupon.
So went to costco last night and found out not only the coupon was good but the price had drop too, so in other words the TV was 400 cheaper, so I told this to a Costco lady and I said I was angry, and she said to me that if I bought the TV between a 30 day period, then I should get my money back, they would refund me the difference and give the discounted price currently available. So I went to membership services and walked out with 400+ in my hand.
Aint that the greatest thing ever? and the good thing is I didn't have to go thru the whole process of returning the TV uninstalling the old(1 week older) one and installing the new one.
So guys just something be aware of, it may help some of you in the future too.
Got to love Costco

Just came back from Sams and they had the new Visio 50 with tuners. Of course it wasn't hooked up to any source. Instead of 50HDM it is now 50HD10a. Same $. It even says on the box "same as HDM with HDTV tuners added". Now if only Costco will get them in. I have a Visio 42 that I need to return and have been deciding between the new V50, the V42LCD, the Panny 42 or 50 and now the Sharp 45. I am leaning towards the V50.

Just came back from Sams and they had the new Visio 50 with tuners. Of course it wasn't hooked up to any source. Instead of 50HDM it is now 50HD10a. Same $. It even says on the box "same as HDM with HDTV tuners added". Now if only Costco will get them in. I have a Visio 42 that I need to return and have been deciding between the new V50, the V42LCD, the Panny 42 or 50 and now the Sharp 45. I am leaning towards the V50.

I'm curious to see if the new V50 is the same as the P50HDM...the P42 that came out with tuners does not produce as good of a picture as the P50HDM...

I am about to buy the Panasonic 50PX60U PDP some time soon and noticed online that BOTH stores' selling prices fluctuate several hundred (sometimes as much as $400) dollars in the span of a couple of weeks! Is this their normal pricing practice? Do most retailers with B/M stores do this? Also, do prices of flat panel displays, in general, drop in the Fall of the year near holiday time?

manny, just go to costco and get the 50px6u..its the same as the 60u with a slightly different case, and youll get the exact same features and picture wiht that great costco return policy.

theyre getting a 50 inch vizio with tuners...and of course, no cable card. so a clear qam tuner, especially on time warner cable, is as useless as tits on a bull.
I totally disagree. with a clear QAM tuner, you get all the locals in HD, which is where the majority of the good stuff is anyways. the only thing i'll actually miss is ESPN-HD. cablecard just seems pretty useless except in the few scenarios where you don't want a cable box. and i'm hooked on the HD-DVR anyways ;)

I'm a new poster to this forum, but read it a lot because I've been looking for a new tv. I'm thinking of getting one from Sams. Do I go for the 50" Vizio Plasma I'm not sure of the model#, but the one with HDTV or the 50" Panasonic Plasma Model# 50PF7220A/37 ? Which would you say has a better picture ? Any other thoughts I should consider ?

Thanks

I totally disagree. with a clear QAM tuner, you get all the locals in HD, which is where the majority of the good stuff is anyways. the only thing i'll actually miss is ESPN-HD. cablecard just seems pretty useless except in the few scenarios where you don't want a cable box. and i'm hooked on the HD-DVR anyways ;)
mike, thats right at this second...and most of my HD wacthing is NOT the networks, its the hi def cable channels. plus, as more and more regular channels, such as food tv go hi def, that qam tuner will be less and les useful without cable card.

As an owner, I like this pannel so far, however there is too much Red push in middle temp and I'd rather not have to move temp into Mid high to fix problem. How does everyone deal with this problem?

manny, just go to costco and get the 50px6u..its the same as the 60u with a slightly different case, and youll get the exact same features and picture wiht that great costco return policy.


Unfortunately, it's not that simple, since there are no Costco stores/wharehouses anywhere near me in Central Wisconsin! I can only wish!! :(

I've heard rumors of a Costco coming to Madison, my cheesehead friend.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple, since there are no Costco stores/wharehouses anywhere near me in Central Wisconsin! I can only wish!! :(
thats ok, sams club has the set now also, and they have the same return policy currently...regardless of what anyone else here tells you.

I noticed at Sam's in north Plano on 121 and Ohio the Samsung HP-S5033. It appears very similar to the 5053 except for a diffenent speaker arrangement and a lack of the anti-glare feature. The displayed picture seemed more detailed than the Panasonic 50" next to it. The price point was substantially less than the 5053s sold at BB and CC. Has anyone else see these sets in Sam's and like to comment?

Does anyone know if Samsung plasmas have QAM tuners?

Thank you

Kelvin

mike, thats right at this second...and most of my HD wacthing is NOT the networks, its the hi def cable channels. plus, as more and more regular channels, such as food tv go hi def, that qam tuner will be less and les useful without cable card.
fair enough...unless they leave them as unencrypted as well (doubtful). your post has made me rethink whether or not i should get CableCard. On the one hand, I love having the HD-DVR because my schedule is not too conducive to watching TV live. On the other hand, being able to have a free standing, wall mounted TV with no additional boxes is also quite appealing (not it's current use, but potentially in the future)....hmmm...

I got the 50PX6U two weeks ago. It was manufactured in June 2006. It is a great set, almost identical to the 60U. Many times what's on the floor at my local Costco is not on the web site.

One word of caution if you do decide on this model. The digital tuner does drop channels, just like the 60u (and 50u). Panasonic has issued a firmware update for the 60u models, but has not issued anything from this model yet. I called them this weekend to see if (and when) they would be issuing a fix for the 6U models. They said they did not know but would get back to me in a few days. I am afraid they may not do a firmware update for the 6U's since there are so few of them out there...

Keith

Keith,

Did you hear anything from the Panny representatives? So is there anyway to do the firmware update in 6U? Please do let us know if you hear anything.

Thanks.

Keith,

Did you hear anything from the Panny representatives? So is there anyway to do the firmware update in 6U? Please do let us know if you hear anything.

Thanks.

I had a phone message on my answering machine yesterday from Panasonic. I called them back and they said that there IS :) a firmware update for the 6U which resolves the digital tuner problem dropping channels. I asked the rep if it was the same one as that posted for the 60U and he said he did not know for sure but it probably was. Anyway I asked him just to send it to me (on SD card-as I don't have an SD card reader/writer anyway) as I did not want to take a chance flashing the (possibly) wrong firmware from the website.

I think this is good news, as it seems like Panasonic is going to support the 6U models on a equal basis with the 60U and other models. I will update again when I receive the firmware and have it installed.

Keith

I had a phone message on my answering machine yesterday from Panasonic. I called them back and they said that there IS :) a firmware update for the 6U which resolves the digital tuner problem dropping channels. I asked the rep if it was the same one as that posted for the 60U and he said he did not know for sure but it probably was. Anyway I asked him just to send it to me (on SD card-as I don't have an SD card reader/writer anyway) as I did not want to take a chance flashing the (possibly) wrong firmware from the website.

I think this is good news, as it seems like Panasonic is going to support the 6U models on a equal basis with the 60U and other models. I will update again when I receive the firmware and have it installed.


Hum, it seems to me they need to be sending a Tech out to correct their problem with the TV. Why should the consumer be required to make the repair. With that kind of support, I am glad I bought the Sharp.

I got the 50PX6U two weeks ago. It was manufactured in June 2006. It is a great set, almost identical to the 60U.


Keith

How do you mean? Internally?

If you're talking bezel, doesn't it look more like last year's 50U?

I had a phone message on my answering machine yesterday from Panasonic. I called them back and they said that there IS :) a firmware update for the 6U which resolves the digital tuner problem dropping channels. I asked the rep if it was the same one as that posted for the 60U and he said he did not know for sure but it probably was. Anyway I asked him just to send it to me (on SD card-as I don't have an SD card reader/writer anyway) as I did not want to take a chance flashing the (possibly) wrong firmware from the website.

I think this is good news, as it seems like Panasonic is going to support the 6U models on a equal basis with the 60U and other models. I will update again when I receive the firmware and have it installed.

Keith
the 6u does not have an SD card slot. youre going to upload it from a laptop?

the 6u does not have an SD card slot. youre going to upload it from a laptop?

There is an SD card slot on the back marked "service only". Very similar to that on the 42PD60.

Keith

Hum, it seems to me they need to be sending a Tech out to correct their problem with the TV. Why should the consumer be required to make the repair. With that kind of support, I am glad I bought the Sharp.

I am happy they are providing the firmware without the need for a tech to come out. Personally I don't have time now to take off of work to sit around and wait for a tech to show up. They did offer to send a tech out if I thought that would be necessary.

Keith

How do you mean? Internally?

If you're talking bezel, doesn't it look more like last year's 50U?

I am not good with colors, but the bezel is the same silver on the bottom (like the PX60u) but grey on the top, rather than black on the PX60U. I don't mind the looks, as it goes with the stand that I have for it and fits in OK in my living room. The dark grey bezel on the top does not reflect light at all - it is a matte finish.

As far as internals go, the only difference of the 6U is that there is no front inputs for composite video and SD card slot on the front for viewing photos. I don't need these features. They do have an SD card on the back for firmware updates.

Keith

I am happy they are providing the firmware without the need for a tech to come out. Personally I don't have time now to take off of work to sit around and wait for a tech to show up. They did offer to send a tech out if I thought that would be necessary.

Keith
amen to that.
and if someone posts the firmware, we can save yet another step for a lot of us here.
(not that this even applies to me since I don't have this TV, but this is a matter of principle).

The rumor is true about the new Vizio 42" LCDs at Costco. [EDIT]

That's the last coupon post I edit. The next time anyone posts about coupons at costco the entire post will be removed. That goes for the other threads as well.

I've been patient, but that is over.

thanks all

Does anyone in the SF Bay Area know which Costco has the Panny 50" 6U. I just went to the Foster City store and they just had a display with "sold out" printed on the tag.

Definitely check out this new Vizio 42" at Costco in a couple weeks.

Does anyone in the SF Bay Area know which Costco has the Panny 50" 6U. I just went to the Foster City store and they just had a display with "sold out" printed on the tag.W
Saw the Panny 50" 6U at the Novato Costco on 7/27/06.

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price, coupon or discount discussion is not allowed on this board.

Thanks

That Samsung model (the 33) is an OLD one, I believe. I think they are currently selling 53s in stores like BB, etc. these days.

Our Sams carries these two mfgs 42 " plasmas but with slightly different models.
The panny is TH-42PX6u (not 60U)
The sammy is HPS4233 (not 4253)
Any insight into this? Specs appear the same with maybe an input or something missing. Would these be "special models"? Sams just got them in so I would not think "old" models?
Considerable less $ but what's the tradeoff?

Thanks

Trust me - the 33s are old. Sams and Costco act the same way with TVs. You are NOT going to get the latest and greatest TVs at Costco/Sams. Their bread and butter are TVs that are really stripped down computer monitors (which is fine for many) or older sets with older technology.

Trust me - the 33s are old. Sams and Costco act the same way with TVs. You are NOT going to get the latest and greatest TVs at Costco/Sams. Their bread and butter are TVs that are really stripped down computer monitors (which is fine for many) or older sets with older technology.
none of this is true at all. Occasionally they have stripped down models, but for the most part they're identical. or at least identical internally. they don't sell the highest end models for the most part, but the TV's are fully functional. "the 33s" may be old - i know nothing about that specific model. But the 6U panny's at Costco & Sams are the same as the 60U with a slightly different casing. Same goes for Sharp, Sony, etc.

I guess I'm going to CC to buy the TH-50PM50U tomorrow...

anyone have any clue how big the box is? Will it fit in a Suburban? Or do I need a truck?

I guess I'm going to CC to buy the TH-50PM50U tomorrow...

anyone have any clue how big the box is? Will it fit in a Suburban? Or do I need a truck?
dear god, I hope it does! If it doesn't, what the hell is the point of one of those gas guzzling monsters?

anyone have any clue how big the box is? Will it fit in a Suburban? Or do I need a truck?

Just remember, you can't lay it down. It has to remain upright.

Can someone who has purchased the Panasonic 50" 6U plasma please post the box size and the type of SUV/truck used to get it home?

I purchased the 43" Pioneer 4312 last year and had to remove the contents of the large single box so that the individual TV only box would fit upright in the back of a 2004 Toyota Highlander. I only had an inch of clearance to spare in the height direction. I'm worried that the 50" Panny plasma won't fit and a pickup or trailer will be required to get it home!

I'm in the market for an LCD for our Kitchen. Viewing distance will vary between 4-6 feet (depending on where you sit at the table). I've been checking out LCD's all over but decided to limit my search to COSTCO for price and return policy.

Here is what I observed in store.

Sony Bravia 32" (32s20L1) Punchy colors and nice blacks, Connectivity (1 HDMI, 2 component) 8 ms- Small footprint - Price point - highest of 32's

Panasonic 32" (32KE60) display colors are nice (not as nice as Sony), Blacks were as good as Sony Connectivity (1 HDMI 1 Comp) 8 ms-Small footprint - Price - less than Sony

Phillips 32"32 (PF7320A) Display colors as punchy as Sony, Blacks as good as Sony, Connectivity (2 HDMI 2 Comp) 8 ms- Large foot print - Price less than Panasonic

Vizo 32 (L32HDTV10A) Display color okay, nothing special a little washed out, Blacks=Dark Gray, Connectivity (1HDMI 2 Comp) 8 ms-Small footprint - Price less than Phillips

Sharp Aqous 37" (LC40C37U) Display colors are equal to Sony and Phillips, Blacks are excellent, Connectivity (2 HDMI 2 Comp) 6 ms - Small footprint for a 37" (1 inch larger than the 32" Phillips) Price Highest of the 37's

Phillips 37" (--------) display colors are equal to the best I saw there, Blacks were good, connectivity (1HDMI 2 Comp) 8 ms - Large footprint (nearly as large as a 42") Price less tha Sharp

Vizo 37 (L37HDTV10A) display colors okay, slightly washed out, blacks = Dark Gray, Connectivity (1 HDMI 2 Comp) 8 ms - Small footprint- Price less than Phillips

Since most of my viewing will be form a fairly close distance and most of the programs I watch are SD from Dish Network, I'm torn. I hear that Sony and Panasonic look great with SD programing...but the Panny really suffers for connectivity. Sony is priced higher that it's value compared to the other sets.

I really like the Phillips 32 but the footprint is large for a 32....so my eyes wandered to the Sharp 37" as both would take up about the same amount of space. The Sharp and Phillips have the connectivity I want and the display colors w/ blacks that are as good as the best I've seen there...but I have never observed either set's performance with SD DISH network signals (I have the DISH HD packages but actually watch more regular SD stuff and lots of DVD's).

I don't want to sacrifice connectivity as I plan to add a (Up converting) DVD player until the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war is over...so 2 HDMI's are pretty much necessary to cover Satellite and DVD connections.

Any comments on how the 37" Sharp or the Phillips 32" will look being viewed at 4-6 feet with SD signals?

I really like what I saw on both sets...but when it comes to TV screens, "size does matter" (footprint and viewing area). There is a pretty big dollar difference between two sets - however I'm looking at this purchase as something I only do once with no regrets.

none of this is true at all. Occasionally they have stripped down models, but for the most part they're identical. or at least identical internally. they don't sell the highest end models for the most part, but the TV's are fully functional. "the 33s" may be old - i know nothing about that specific model. But the 6U panny's at Costco & Sams are the same as the 60U with a slightly different casing. Same goes for Sharp, Sony, etc.
Wrong.

You are mistaking my post for insinuating that Costco/Sams sells junk; I said nothing of the sort.

They often do sell HDTV monitors, not TV (e.g. Panasonic 50" 8UK, which is a monitor without a tuner). The 6U is a scaled down version of the 60U. It's not merely a difference in casing. For example, it doesn't have a cablecard like the 60U.

Costco's return policy is a huge plus, which compensates for its less compelling selection.

Note - I never said that you can't get models identical to ones found elsewhere; of course you can. But Costco often sells models that are at the end of the lifecycle (e.g. selling Panasonic 50Us on their website).

Can someone who has purchased the Panasonic 50" 6U plasma please post the box size and the type of SUV/truck used to get it home?

I purchased the 43" Pioneer 4312 last year and had to remove the contents of the large single box so that the individual TV only box would fit upright in the back of a 2004 Toyota Highlander. I only had an inch of clearance to spare in the height direction. I'm worried that the 50" Panny plasma won't fit and a pickup or trailer will be required to get it home!

Look for the post "How to get a plasma home"
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=700825

The Width is around 57" and the height is around 41" and the depth is around 22 or so. We got it home in a 2006 Toyota Sienna

For those of you who have the 50PX6U, Panasonic sent me the firmware update today to fix the problem with the digital tuner sometimes dropping channels. What they sent me was labled "PX60" ver 1.02. Did not have any problems installing. The upgrade did not erase any picture or audio settings. The only thing I had to do was rescan the channels. Total time it took to install the update and rescan was less than 10 minutes.

Keith

Wrong.

The 6U is a scaled down version of the 60U. It's not merely a difference in casing. For example, it doesn't have a cablecard like the 60U.


The 60U does not have a cablecard slot either. Only the 600 models have cablecard this year. The only differences are: 1) the casing, 2) the 6U does not have front video (S-Video and composite, shared) input w/audio input and 3) the 6U does not have an SD card slot on the front for viewing pictures. There is an SD slot on the rear of the unit marked "service only" for firmware upgrades (see my prior post).

Keith

i know there's no pricing but i was wondering, what if a person buys a tv and 6-7 months later its 600 bucks less? can that person go ask for some money back? or is that a done deal, shoulda waited.

W
Saw the Panny 50" 6U at the Novato Costco on 7/27/06.


Thanks! I ended up doing some driving today and found it (Panny 50" PX6U) at the San Ramon Costco, they had 3 units.

So far after unpacking and plugging in, I am very impressed with this unit. The colors and the blacks are very vivid and the contrast seems amazing in HD. I also was actually pretty impressed with Comcasts analog channels as well. They are much more bearable to watch than the projection tv I replaced.

Does anyone have some numbers for a good all around setting for this panny? I know I can adjust for my own viewing pleasure, but I was just hoping to cheat a little. :)

Thanks to all for the great feedback on this forum. I must say that after reading all the posts I felt much better about going out and spending the $$!

"The Width is around 57" and the height is around 41" and the depth is around 22 or so. We got it home in a 2006 Toyota Sienna"

The Panny 6U box height is the tight dimension for my Toyota Highlander. Is the posted 41" box height the maximum? Any chance of giving the exact box height? My closest Costco is 100 miles away. I would hate to find out the the box doesn't fit when I get there.

I just purchased a Panasonic Th-50PX6U from Costco. Panasonic has a link to this model (missing cable card insert, SD card connectiona and computer connection) All the things i don't need. I love this t.V. It's great.

i know there's no pricing but i was wondering, what if a person buys a tv and 6-7 months later its 600 bucks less? can that person go ask for some money back? or is that a done deal, shoulda waited.
you have to return the set and buy another one. its asinine but its their policy. or there are other shadier ways to get the money back...

dear god, I hope it does! If it doesn't, what the hell is the point of one of those gas guzzling monsters?


stfu

you have to return the set and buy another one. its asinine but its their policy. or there are other shadier ways to get the money back...

Or if you have a hot wife like I do, let her ask for the money back...it worked for me twice :D

Went to the Costco in Clinton and Hackensack NJ. Neither has the 42inch Vizio on display. Both have them on the top of shelves still bundled. I did look at the 37 inch LCD however, and the plasmas have way better PQ, blacks, viewing angle, and just seem smoother in any scenes with motion. LCD still has a way to go in my eyes. Just my opinion

Plasmas
The Panasonic 6Us were hands down the best sets at these Costcos, but also the most expensive. I would rate the PQ a 9 for the Pannys, and a 7 for the Vizio plasmas. The blacks were just slightly better on the Pannys, but who knows about the settings and feeds. I was ready to jump on the 50 inch Vizio (price being the factor), but they only had the model without a tuner. Checked the Sams club in Secaucus, and they dont have the 50 inch Vizio w tuner in stock either. Thinking about ordering off the web, but shipping is nearly 200 with 3 week delivery period. I will go back to Sams, and try to get a date for when the 50 inch Vizio with tuner will be available.

Went to the Costco in Clinton and Hackensack NJ. Neither has the 42inch Vizio on display. Both have them on the top of shelves still bundled. I did look at the 37 inch LCD however, and the plasmas have way better PQ, blacks, viewing angle, and just seem smoother in any scenes with motion. LCD still has a way to go in my eyes. Just my opinion

Plasmas
The Panasonic 6Us were hands down the best sets at these Costcos, but also the most expensive. I would rate the PQ a 9 for the Pannys, and a 7 for the Vizio plasmas. The blacks were just slightly better on the Pannys, but who knows about the settings and feeds. I was ready to jump on the 50 inch Vizio (price being the factor), but they only had the model without a tuner. Checked the Sams club in Secaucus, and they dont have the 50 inch Vizio w tuner in stock either. Thinking about ordering off the web, but shipping is nearly 200 with 3 week delivery period. I will go back to Sams, and try to get a date for when the 50 inch Vizio with tuner will be available.


Sams near me had the new V50 with tuners (but it was not hooked up). I heard they have been shipped to Costcos too. I agree with you that the Pannys blow away the competition at the stores. I went to 3 different Costcos and the Pannys were much sharper than all the rest and adjusting the Visio didnt help. Of course the Pannys are more expensive.

the pannys are sharper, but in order to compare you must put it in "standard" mode...it will be sharper in "vivid" mode, but if you really look at it, youll see tons of pixelization and clayface with everything looking totally unnatural because of all the electronic processing. put it in standard mode (get the remote from them if necessary) then compare the pictures. almost nobody on here leaves their pannys in vivid mode because it looks so fake.

the pannys are sharper, but in order to compare you must put it in "standard" mode...it will be sharper in "vivid" mode, but if you really look at it, youll see tons of pixelization and clayface with everything looking totally unnatural because of all the electronic processing. put it in standard mode (get the remote from them if necessary) then compare the pictures. almost nobody on here leaves their pannys in vivid mode because it looks so fake.


Which set do you have? What would you buy if you were my at this point?

i have a pioneer 5070. i just returned my vizio p50...it had too many issues i didnt like, the main being vertical stretching and too much overscan. i was going to get the panny 50px600u, but got tired of waiting for them to get them out to anyone other than huge box retailers. plus the more i saw the panny the more i thought the picture looked fake in vivid mode, and in standard mode i felt the pio was better. you cant go wrong with the 6u at costco, plus you cant beat the return policy. if you dont need cable card, go for it. you really cant go wrong with either one.

i have a pioneer 5070. i just returned my vizio p50...it had too many issues i didnt like, the main being vertical stretching and too much overscan. i was going to get the panny 50px600u, but got tired of waiting for them to get them out to anyone other than huge box retailers. plus the more i saw the panny the more i thought the picture looked fake in vivid mode, and in standard mode i felt the pio was better. you cant go wrong with the 6u at costco, plus you cant beat the return policy. if you dont need cable card, go for it. you really cant go wrong with either one.

Thanks, I have a feeling that if I go for the Vizio 50 that I will be returning it for the Panny in 3 to 6 months anyway.

I was just at the Costco in Oxnard, CA, and although they had a 42" 6U on display, they did not have any in stock, and there was no 50" 6U to be found. It was a pretty cr@ppy feed, so all the displays looked pretty bad (lots of pixellation).

They also had a huge number of the Vizio 50" monitors, and a bunch of the Vizio 42" LCD & Plasma TVs, as well as a bunch of Toshibas & Philips.

Bad news. As I reported in an earlier thread, I did get a firmware update for the problem of the digital tuner dropping channels on this model (50PX6U). I applied the update last night (to version 1.02 as on the Panny site) and everything was fine. However this afternoon the digital channels started to cut in and out again as before. I am using QAM with Cox Cable in Las Vegas. So I guess that this firmware does not fix the problems with QAM channels dropping in and out - just over the air digital channels. Or maybe it is just something going on with Cox Cable here. I know that my signal levels are good, so it can't be that. But they will be rearranging channels on 8/1 from what I have heard. Anyway, rescanning fixes the problem, but that is not an acceptable long-term fix to me.

I guess the bottom line here is that I will wait and see if this problem fixes itself after the channel changes on Tuesday. If it doesn't and Panasonic holds no hope out for a fix, I will most likely return it. What I will get as a replacement, I have no idea as I am sure that this is software problem (or rescanning the channels would not fix the problem) and the software is the same as that for the 60u models.

Anyway, I thought that I would report this as if you are thinking about getting this set and utilizing the digital QAM tuner, you may experience some problems.
If anyone has the set (or a 60U model) working with cable (QAM) digital channels please PM me or post a reply. This may help me determine if the problem is with my cable service or the set itself...

Keith

I was just at the Costco in Oxnard, CA, and although they had a 42" 6U on display, they did not have any in stock, and there was no 50" 6U to be found. It was a pretty cr@ppy feed, so all the displays looked pretty bad (lots of pixellation).

They also had a huge number of the Vizio 50" monitors, and a bunch of the Vizio 42" LCD & Plasma TVs, as well as a bunch of Toshibas & Philips.
youre going to get pixelization on the pannys out of the box anyway, its vivid mode...so a bad feed is going to look REALLY bad. change to standard mode and see what you think.

Went to Costco to check out the 45 inch Sharp and they had it! My only question is the model number they had was Sharp’s LC-40C45U. Whereas the model number in sears, all black frame, was LC-45D40U. Whats the difference if any?

Thanks

To those who bought the new Vizio 42" LCD, is anybody having the same problems I am?

1. Can't get S-Video to work. Composite video with RCA audio is fine for AV-1 and 2, but not S-Video. Anybody else?

2. TV makes a lot of cracking sounds for the first two minutes of operation while it warms up.

Thanks.

i know there's no pricing but i was wondering, what if a person buys a tv and 6-7 months later its 600 bucks less? can that person go ask for some money back? or is that a done deal, shoulda waited.

Costco policy for this kind of stuff is only 30 days. It just happened to me last week when I bought the Phillips full price and then it came down 400 bucks, they gave me the money back 'cause I was still in the 30 day frame.

I bought the Phillips 37pf9431d/37 yesterday and while I am happy with it as a TV, I am a bit disapointed with it for the following reasons, maybe someone here can help me with this:

- No VGA input - had to get a VGA to RGBHV cable (Don't know how I missed this when looking at it at Costco.)
- 1024x768 is the highest resolution of the LCD and it looks like fark. its blurry/not sharp etc.
- I thought it was WXGA but in setup it says XGA.

anyone have any tips on getting this thing to look better when hooked up to a computer?

I want to setup media PC to run off it - and want to be able to have a decent looking internet session - but this looks as bad as the original 42" plasmas we bought at Intel back in 98/99 when they were 20K.

I would have thought this would have looked very good.

Have you tried using DVI from your PC? Also, you might try a utility like powerstrip to tweak the video card to exactly match the synch frequencies listed in the display's manual. It's pretty common for the smaller flat panels (under 50") to have 1024x768 native resolution. You would need to move up to a 1920x1080 display to get more pixels.

FYI: Philips generally isn't very well respected around here. I know that every time I have seen them, they looked pretty cr@ppy compared to just about any other panel in the store.

Does the Costco 45"lcd sharp do well with ps2 games via component? How about compared with the 50"vizio?

Ok I tested the 45" lcd sharp with my PS2 and Xbox using component cables and here is my initial evaluation. For all my gaming, I used the "game" mode that the TV has. I haven't figured out my own gaming settings but if someone can come up with one please share.

PS2 - Using the official Sony Component Cables, I tested several games, regular games that don't support progressive scan (Winning Eleven 9), 480p games (God of War, Tekken 5, Soul Calibur 3), 1080i (Gran Turismo 4).

First the bad news, regular games that don't support any progressive scan don't look too hot. They are pixelated, and the colors aren't very vibrant, using component gives you somewhat of an improvement over composite. I don't blame the TV here, the signal source is just to low resolution and all the imperfections are just enhanced. The good news is playing a sports game, there is no visible ghosting or lag. But since the video doesn't look very good you might as well stick to playing non progressive games on a regular TV.

480p - Wow, what a huge ass improvement. God of War looks fantastic, in the dark levels, I get a better appreciation of how it can handle black levels. But the true test for lag and ghosting, I used Tekken 5 and Soul Calibur 3. Great news, the 6 m/s response time really holds up and there is no lag or ghosting (that I can notice). Tekken 5 and SC 3 play just like they did using my regular TV. No problem pulling off combos or moves. As for the graphics, 480p is just Jaw Dropping. I'm noticing details that I have never seen before, The colors are beautiful too, it's really a different experience I have never had playing games before. I wish more companies were like Namco producing jaw dropping 480p for there PS2 games.

1080i - Gran Turismo 4, again no lag, car responds just like it did when I was playing this on a regular old TV. 1080i is even more detail than 480p. But at this resolution, you can really start to see the limits of the PS2's graphics capabilities, PS2 problems with jaggies are very noticeable. Along with some pixelation. I haven't tested 720p but when I do I'll post my opinions.

Xbox - Since almost all Xbox games play in 480p this LCD display matches well with it. I tested Ultimate Dead or Alive 2 and it not only looks fantastic but no lag or ghosting. Crimson Skies and Burnout 3 also look awesome in 480p. Again, no lag with either game. Soul Calibur 2 in 720p is better looking than Soul Calibur 3 in 480p on the PS2! The colors are vivid and just like the other games no visible ghosting and no noticeable lag. By far Soul Calibur 2 is the best looking game I've seen on the Xbox so far. Xbox does a better job displaying all the games in widescreen compared to the PS2. Xbox also shows DVD movies in 480i, even though it not the best signal source, the TV does shows movies pretty well in 480i. Although I can imagine how much better DVD movies are going to look in 1080i, 720p, or even 480p.
I still need to test some more games but the Xbox will surely remain connected to this TV for now on.

Overall the Sharp 45" LCD TV performance on games is really good IMHO. The 6 m/s reponse time on the set turned out to be a key factor in its ability to play games well with no lag or ghosting. Black levels on the set are fantastic for an LCD, probably the best I've ever seen on an LCD display. Plus you don't have to worry about image retention of the huds and menus, so far I have not seen any image retention occur on this TV. I'm now very tempted to purchase a Xbox 360 just to play games at even higher resolutions. I'll post more reviews/opinions about this TV as I keep on using it.

Does anyone have any insight as to whether Costco is going to carry the 46-inch Sony Bravia any time soon? I bought the 45-inch Aquos from them last week and need to return it for lack of ability to display computer output in native resolution as well as some nasty vertical streaks that show up. I decided to go with the Sony because it has a VGA input that will display in 1366x768. However they only have the 40 for now and I'd hate to lose 5 inches. Anyone know anything about them getting the 46?

Thanks,
Dave

I bought on Saturday the Panasonic 42PD60U ED model. CC had a ridiculous deal on it only through the website (I think this discussion, since it lacks specifics, should be OK ;)). So anybody interested on this model go check it out.

Anyways, I have OTA HD and all channels look awsome. The first thing I saw was Finding Nemo and it looked amazing even with the Pic and Brightness settings to -10 in Standard mode for breaking in. I am thrilled.

I bought the 45-inch Aquos from them last week and need to return it for lack of ability to display computer output in native resolution

Is this because it does not have a VGA input or did you hook it up with a DVI-to-hdmi cable and still couldn't get native resolution? Also what's the resolution your video card outputing at?

Is this because it does not have a VGA input or did you hook it up with a DVI-to-hdmi cable and still couldn't get native resolution? Also what's the resolution your video card outputing at?

It does not have a VGA input. I hooked it up with DVI-to-HDMI and I can't get it to display native resolution. I set the card to output 1360x768, but when I do, it puts the TV into 1080i mode and shows the computer output small in the center of the screen. I've asked around trying to get it working and haven't been able to -- do you have any ideas? It sounds like the HDMI input just won't do the native resolution.

Sharp customer service says: "There is no way to correctly connect a PC to this unit. The only connection type that does fully support a PC would be the DVI connection. It is not the actual connection that restricts it, rather the hardcoded software behind the connection." Uh, OK.

Does either Costco or Sam's carry the newer Samsung plasmas?

I almost pulled the trigger on the Panasonic, but just couldnt justify the extra money. I dont have anything HD to hook it up to yet, but Directv is coming on the 8th with the new 5 LNB dish and receiver. Hooked up and old DVD player with Robots, and it looks great.



BTW my Sams club had the Samsung Plasma

I got home last night, and was browsing the web. I saw a deal on the 60u for a few hundred more. I couldnt resist. Now I have to lug this damn Vizio back up to Sams club. At least I have something to hold me over until the Panny arrives.

damn nyupipe...you had a busy evening...sounds like one of my cluster F**Ks

BTW my Sams club had the Samsung Plasma

Any idea what model it was? Was it an all black model or one with a bottom silver speaker?

I got home last night, and was browsing the web. I saw a deal on the 60u for a few hundred more. I couldnt resist. Now I have to lug this damn Vizio back up to Sams club. At least I have something to hold me over until the Panny arrives.

To me, the reason to buy a set at Costco is for their fantastic return policy...otherwise you will find better prices online...

Costco in Union, NJ now has the 506U on display and in stock. PQ was phenomenal, especially considering the Toshiba, Phillips and Vizio nearby.

I'm going to wait to later August to see the new Maxent 50", and then decide..

Don't buy that Samsung from Sams - its the 33 model. Very old.

Just wondering if Costco accepts returns without the original packaging...for example, I don't have much storage space, thus hate to keep boxes--but if I have to return something...

Pedro2:

Nope...you don't need the packaging at all. For my first plasma return (defective) I called ahead of time and they said just bring in the plasma, remote, manual/documents, and your receipt (if you still have it) and you're good to go.

Of course being Costco, it was super painless.



In fact, I'm taking my second tv back today or tomorrow (again...defective) :o

Well I called Vizio yesterday and sales told me that Costco is not getting the new 50 at this time. Called back and talked to Ken at tech support (X1669) and he told me that "he was told the new 50 was the same as the old one but with tuners". I questioned him about the different specs and he didnt know why they would be different. He did say they were coming out with the 46 LCD this month and a 1080P at end of year. So I guess I either have to go to Sams to get the V50 or just spring for the extra cash and get the Panny. I think fate is telling me to get the Panny.

Hmm...Vizio 46" LCD? That could be enough to get me to take back the Vizio 42" PDP. I've been on the fence about the 42" LCD. Thanks for the info!

Well I called Vizio yesterday and sales told me that Costco is not getting the new 50 at this time. Called back and talked to Ken at tech support (X1669) and he told me that "he was told the new 50 was the same as the old one but with tuners". I questioned him about the different specs and he didnt know why they would be different. He did say they were coming out with the 46 LCD this month and a 1080P at end of year. So I guess I either have to go to Sams to get the V50 or just spring for the extra cash and get the Panny. I think fate is telling me to get the Panny.

Did he say if the 1080p was an LCD or plasma?

I went to Costco last night to compare the 32" Panny and the 37" Vizio. The Panny looks great so does the screen size of the Vizio. [EDIT] should I just go for the Panny then? I plan on possibly buying it tomorrow [EDIT]

- JOhn

Is that a sure thing they will do that without making you return and rebuy?

I was gonna buy the Pannny 32'' too, but now that I know it doesn't have pc input I won't buy it.

Went to Costco to check out the 45 inch Sharp and they had it! My only question is the model number they had was Sharp’s LC-40C45U. Whereas the model number in sears, all black frame, was LC-45D40U. Whats the difference if any?

Thanks

There is no difference. This one is made specifically for Costco. I have the set and its awesome for sd, hd, gaming, any time of day viewing. My only beef is I would love it to be 10 inches bigger but--outside of that its a great set.

Hey I'm still planning on returning the my 50 inch Vizio back to Costco in the next few weeks. I was there today and noticed that they [EDIT]. I have the reciept from when I bought it. [EDIt]
Also, any one has legit info on the price of that 46 inch Vizio LCD let me know in pvt mail. Thanks.

I was gonna buy the Pannny 32'' too, but now that I know it doesn't have pc input I won't buy it.

By PC input do you mean VGA. Isn't that kinda outdated? My 4 year old mac has DVI. DVI is way better than VGA and is more appropriate since the display can actually tell the computer what it is capable of and the computer can automatically send the appropriate signal over.

I will never use VGA again.

I have the reciept from when I bought it. Will I get credit for the price I paid OR for the current price?
Thanks.

Price adjustments:

If it's outside 30 days, you're supposed to bring the set in. Although, you might get a nice manager to do it only on the receipt.

If you return it with the receipt, you'll get credit for the price you paid. [EDIT]

I don't have price info. on the 46" Vizio, but I just called sales and the woman I spoke with said it wouldn't be out for a few months. :(

I was gonna buy the Pannny 32'' too, but now that I know it doesn't have pc input I won't buy it.

This is somethign that also worries me because I have an XBOX 360 which I was planning on using the VGA input for. Are there any other LCDs in costco that has a VGA input?

- John

This is somethign that also worries me because I have an XBOX 360 which I was planning on using the VGA input for. Are there any other LCDs in costco that has a VGA input?

- John

Just about every other model does.

By PC input do you mean VGA. Isn't that kinda outdated? My 4 year old mac has DVI. DVI is way better than VGA and is more appropriate since the display can actually tell the computer what it is capable of and the computer can automatically send the appropriate signal over.

I will never use VGA again.

I am not sure if the 32'' Panny has DVI input.

Finally had a chance to visit my local warehouse and check out the Panny 6U. I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was still disappointed to see that the PQ in the warehouse was absolutely horrendous. I knew most of these sets are pushed into the "Vivid" mode on the sales floor, but I swear this one was in "Thermonuclear Warfare" mode. All the colors were blotchy, the reds in particular hurt my eyes to look at them. I had read about clayface, but this was my first actual experience with it: all skin tones were full of artifacts and totally lacked any semblance of realism.

The only thing positive I can say is that the glare seemed to be somewhat less than I remember from previous models, but that could be more of a function of the set's positioning under the million watt bulbs of the warehouse.

I can't imagine Mr. Sam thinks he can sell any sets like that. If I hadn't read so many positive reviews about these sets (the 6u and the 60U) from people who actually have them installed in their homes, I would certainly not consider it.

It's been said many times, but I'll repeat it: please don't make your buying decision based on what you see in the warehouse.

There is no difference. This one is made specifically for Costco. I have the set and its awesome for sd, hd, gaming, any time of day viewing. My only beef is I would love it to be 10 inches bigger but--outside of that its a great set.


Great, thanks for the response. Thats the answer I was looking for & more..I am gonna try and head down there this weekend to pick it up!

Another quick question..how does it look with an upconverting DVD player? I am dying to get the set to watch V for Vendetta.

Did he say if the 1080p was an LCD or plasma?
almost certainly an LCD at this price point. 1080p plasmas are just too new and still very expensive - not really Vizio's market.

I am not sure if the 32'' Panny has DVI input.

Of course it does - may be in the form of HDMI but it does. HDMI is nothing but DVI-D + Audio. All you need is a little pin converter to convert from DVI to HDMI. My Sony HD-DVR came with a HDMI cable with a HDMI to DVI converter. I have used this to connect my PowerMac (with DVI) to a Sanyo HDTV with HDMI. My computer automatically recognized 1080i and output a correct signal.

Of course it does - may be in the form of HDMI but it does. HDMI is nothing but DVI-D + Audio. All you need is a little pin converter to convert from DVI to HDMI. My Sony HD-DVR came with a HDMI cable with a HDMI to DVI converter. I have used this to connect my PowerMac (with DVI) to a Sanyo HDTV with HDMI. My computer automatically recognized 1080i and output a correct signal.

Actually, I recently bought a Samsung LN-S2338W from Costco. It has a VGA port, and, of course, an HDMI port. My PC look slightly better than decent connected with the VGA port in Windows, with some slight shadows around the icons and fonts, which was explained to me as being caused by the vga signal (don't know if this is true or not, but it is what it is). Games like Oblivion and WoW look great though.

BUT, the manual says that the set doesn't support PC input through the HDMI port, and boy, it sure doesn't. I hooked up using a DVI-HDMI converter cable, and the picture was terrible, even at the same resolution (1280x720) as the VGA. And yes, I tried tweaking it with Powerstrip, to no avail. So, apparantly, not all telvevisions support a PC hook up through the HDMI. Which is why I'm searching, at this moment, for a 27-32" set that has a DVI-I PC Input.

Great, thanks for the response. Thats the answer I was looking for & more..I am gonna try and head down there this weekend to pick it up!

Another quick question..how does it look with an upconverting DVD player? I am dying to get the set to watch V for Vendetta.
dont know about upconverting but I have a cheapie 50 dollar progressive scan dvd and think it looks pretty good.

Bad news. As I reported in an earlier thread, I did get a firmware update for the problem of the digital tuner dropping channels on this model (50PX6U). I applied the update last night (to version 1.02 as on the Panny site) and everything was fine. Keith How did you upgrade the firmware without the SD slot? I am looking at this model and was worried about upgrades.

How did you upgrade the firmware without the SD slot? I am looking at this model and was worried about upgrades.

There is an SD slot on the rear marked "Service Only". No problem at all doing the upgrade.

However the upgrade did not fix the problems I am having with the QAM tuner. After discussing this with both Panasonic and the local repair center they have both advised me to return the set and get another one as it is possible my set has a bad digital tuner. I will be doing that in the next couple of days and will report back.

Keith

Well I called Vizio yesterday and sales told me that Costco is not getting the new 50 at this time. Called back and talked to Ken at tech support (X1669) and he told me that "he was told the new 50 was the same as the old one but with tuners". I questioned him about the different specs and he didnt know why they would be different. He did say they were coming out with the 46 LCD this month and a 1080P at end of year. So I guess I either have to go to Sams to get the V50 or just spring for the extra cash and get the Panny. I think fate is telling me to get the Panny.

Looks to me like Costco is selling the new 50 on their website.

Does anyone have any insight as to whether Costco is going to carry the 46-inch Sony Bravia any time soon? I bought the 45-inch Aquos from them last week and need to return it for lack of ability to display computer output in native resolution as well as some nasty vertical streaks that show up. I decided to go with the Sony because it has a VGA input that will display in 1366x768. However they only have the 40 for now and I'd hate to lose 5 inches. Anyone know anything about them getting the 46?

Thanks,
Dave

Keep in mind the Sony only has one HDMI input.

Looks to me like Costco is selling the new 50 on their website.
Can someone tell me how Sam's return policy compares to Costco's return policy? Is it the same or as generous?


I'm ready to buy the new Vizio 50HDTV, but I don't think Costco is going to have it in their stores anytime soon... it might even be a website item only. I don't want to order something over the web from Costco and have to pay the $200 shipping cost and then pay it again should I want to send it back at sometime in the future. I'd rather just deal with a local Sam's or Costco store and not have to worry about the shipping costs. I've found a Sam's near me that has 1 50HDTV in stock and I'd like to pick it up tomorrow AM if their return policy is as good as Costco's...

Any input would be much appreciated! ;)

Actually, you would not have to ship it back. all you need to do is take it back to your nearest Costco.

Yes, you can return any item bought online at your local Costco. They will also refund the shipping cost to you. You can't beat Costco when it comes to returns online and locally. :)

- JOhn

I've had it for about 2 weeks now... it's the S6787 model. this thing is huge so if you don't have a large room I wouldn't recommend it. No complaints so far except that my cable feed leaves a little to be desired. Charter is coming out Monday to check it out. Low number channels are really noisy. About the only thing is the DNIE function. The picture is horrible when it's turned on. Not sure why. Makes things grainy and lines have a distinctive sparkle to them. Also has great sound. Almost whished I hadn't popped the half G for a JVE 702 AV amp though it is an awesome amp and it lets you dump all your AV feeds into it and it dumps them all into the TV via HDMI. Very nice... gets rid of having to climb behind the TV to hook all those wires up. The VGA input maxes at 1920 X 1200 but the display is awesome to say the least. 1280 X 1024 is a little more practical though. With the hi setting even with 67" the stuff is pretty small on the screen at 10 feet or so. regular 4-3 digital cable feed is pretty good at least on my non noisy channels. The HBO HD feed is also awesome. Very close to that of a DVD feed. Only thing I don't like is there is no way to put a center channel speaker on the top of the TV since it just slopes down from the edge of the display. has only about 3 inches of flat area on top which isn't enough for my speaker to set on. I'll probably try to rig some sort of stand to accomodate it. The only other place to put it is on the shelf stand under the TV but is seems a little disconnected from the picture, but it is livable. Just too much stuff and too little space. finally sprang for a component rack from Big Lots 4 glass shelves and silver painted metal frame. Very nice looking and it was CHEAP. Like less than half of what I'd seen comparably on my searches on the web when I was looking for a rack. Anyone has any questions about this model just let me know and I'll try to answer them. I did notice that when Costco first got this unit in it dropped $300 in price after two weeks. Think they were asking a little too much initially.

Returns of web purchased Costco TV'S are painless as long as you can cart it to a local warehouse.

They only need the TV, manuals, and remote.....no boxes!

And then you have the choice to credit the paying card, Costco Cash, or Merican Greenbacks on the spot.

And yes, you get the total paid including SHIPPING.... :) .

Trust me, I returned a set 12 months ago.

Tiggerzz

Can someone tell me how Sam's return policy compares to Costco's return policy? Is it the same or as generous?


I'm ready to buy the new Vizio 50HDTV, but I don't think Costco is going to have it in their stores anytime soon... it might even be a website item only. I don't want to order something over the web from Costco and have to pay the $200 shipping cost and then pay it again should I want to send it back at sometime in the future. I'd rather just deal with a local Sam's or Costco store and not have to worry about the shipping costs. I've found a Sam's near me that has 1 50HDTV in stock and I'd like to pick it up tomorrow AM if their return policy is as good as Costco's...

Any input would be much appreciated! ;)

Thanks for your responses guys. I guess I'll just order from Costco online. With a return policy that good why go anywhere else! :)

sams policy matches costco. if any manager tries to tell you different, get customer service on the phone.

is it my imagination, or is Costco's inventory a little more desirable overall than Sam's? I always picture Sams as having 2 yr old technology, but really haven't checked there in awhile.

Costco TVs seem to be pretty up-to-date, I was surprised the Vizio had 2 HDMI slots.

Anyone else thinking the new Vizio on Costco.com will be showing some sort of a discount in the near future? I'm thinking they definitely want people to focus on this week's in-house special first and maybe even wait until the P50HDM's stock is depleted.....but than it's discount city!

Granted, there's no reason to assume this is true other than wishful thinking.

Anyone know a Costco in the DFW area I can find the 42" Vizio LCD? All seem to be sold out.

I also noticed that Costco has a 42" Vizio Plasma for the same price as the Vizio special. Should I go with the LCD or Plasma?

I saw the Maxent MX-5020HPM at the Burbank, CA Costco today. Actually I saw the box that it was in...not unpacked yet. About 10 on the floor....I'm pretty sure this will be the one in the Passport Coupon book coming up later in the month. No built in Tuner. Other info available at www.maxentusa.com Would love to see a review before the sale. :)

Anyone know a Costco in the DFW area I can find the 42" Vizio LCD? All seem to be sold out.

I also noticed that Costco has a 42" Vizio Plasma for the same price as the Vizio special. Should I go with the LCD or Plasma?

First post... I love this forum!

It's been a couple of weeks, but the Costco at the Tollway and Park in Plano is where I first saw the 42" Vizio LCD. They didn't have many in stock the day I was there and they had hastily set one up on one of their corner displays. It did draw a fair amount of attention from all passers-by, though.

That Costco seems to get a little less traffic than others in the area so it might be worth placing a call there to see if they still have any.

My experience has been that the Costco at 75 & Spring Creek Parkway (also in Plano) does a better job of re-stocking sets as soon as they sell them so they may also be worth a phone call.

I can't help with your second question. Sorry. :o

Picked up the 45 inch Sharp last night. My DVDs look pretty crappy though. I am using the regular component cables (red, yellow, white) hooked up to the video 1 input. Am I doing something wrong? I might pickup an upconverting dvd player w hdmi on the way home.

Also how far should I be sitting from this thing?

any info on the Maxent 50" would be much appreciated. The Maxent site finally has some specs, which look good, but I'd like to know whose glass their using. The 42x3 used alot of Panny parts, not so sure about this one... maybe we'll get lucky again, like with the 42x3!!

Picked up the 45 inch Sharp last night. My DVDs look pretty crappy though. I am using the regular component cables (red, yellow, white) hooked up to the video 1 input. Am I doing something wrong? I might pickup an upconverting dvd player w hdmi on the way home.

Also how far should I be sitting from this thing?

If you are using red, white, and yellow cables, you are not using component - you're using composite...component is green, blue, and red...

If you are using red, white, and yellow cables, you are not using component - you're using composite...component is green, blue, and red...


Got it..thanks! I knew I was doing something wrong! I'll check it out when I get home and let you know how it looks. My xbox 360 looks great!

you can still use the red/white/yellow cables for component, correct? I thought component cables were just rcas??

I didnt try them in the componet input, I was putting them in the video 1 input. Are there any DVD players that come with HDMI cables..I was looking at some 6 foot hdmi cables, but they were 80 bucks!

JBungie, go to forum sponsor Monoprice for your HDMI cable. Unbeatable prices, fast shipping.

You will not be disappointed.

you can still use the red/white/yellow cables for component, correct? I thought component cables were just rcas??

The cheap red/white/blue cables that come with the TVs, DVD players, etc are really cheap and even though they have the correct connectors on both end (RCA connectors), they are not really meant for component video. Component video requires shielded 75 ohm coaxial cables. You can get these pretty cheap on eBay as well as other local stores. You don't have to buy really expensive ones like from Audioquest, however need to make sure the connectors are heavy duty, that they plug in snugly and the cable itself is RG6 quality shielded coaxial cables. Also make sure you are connecting from Y, Pb, Pr connections on the DVD player to the corresponding connections on the TV. Make sure, the DVD player is configured to output progressive scan since the default mode is interlaced.

Are there any DVD players that come with HDMI cables..I was looking at some 6 foot hdmi cables, but they were 80 bucks!

Oppo DVD players, which many people consider to be one of the best bargains in the market, come with HDMI cables.

Oppo DVD players, which many people consider to be one of the best bargains in the market, come with HDMI cables.

I just obtained a Toshiba SD-K860SU from Costco with a HDMI cable. And the Sony model also has one included.

About a year and a half ago, the players didn't include them.....go figure? Those cables are relatively inexpensive, especially via eBay. I'm amazed how much the pricing has dropped for these players currently at about half of a Benjamin Franklin!!! :p

Tiggerzz

I bought the philips 42" lcd a couple weeks ago from costco onlinem but have yet to get it set up (I'm in the process of moving). Now, I'm seeing news of the 42" vizio lcd at costco. Should I return my philips for the vizio? Any advice? All of the specs look the same, well better for the vizio with a second hdmi, but i am quite unsure of which direction to go. Any advice? Thanks!

It's been a couple of weeks, but the Costco at the Tollway and Park in Plano is where I first saw the 42" Vizio LCD. They didn't have many in stock the day I was there and they had hastily set one up on one of their corner displays. It did draw a fair amount of attention from all passers-by, though.

That Costco seems to get a little less traffic than others in the area so it might be worth placing a call there to see if they still have any.

My experience has been that the Costco at 75 & Spring Creek Parkway (also in Plano) does a better job of re-stocking sets as soon as they sell them so they may also be worth a phone call.



I actually called all the Costcos in the area and none had any and only one (121 in Lewisville)had some on order, so I decided to drive to Duncanville for the grand opening of a new store this morning. They had like 12 of them. I got my 42" LCD home and hooked up tonight. Haven't had much time to play with it, but looks good so far.

So I hooked my DVD player up to my 45 inch Sharp lcd set the dvd player on progressive scan with component cables and the noise reduction setting to high and it looks better, but it still seems like I see some pixalation especially in the ratings screen at the beginning of the film. Is this normal? Am I sitting too close? I just expected it to look better, it seems like I can see all the imperfections in the DVD (Back to the Future). Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the help guys, its my first good tv. btw its a crappy dvd player a cyberhome.

get an upconvert DVD player.

or

turn down the sharpness and turn off the noise reduction.

you can still use the red/white/yellow cables for component, correct? I thought component cables were just rcas??Cheap cables can be used for component video, but there will be more degradation in picture quality. If you use cheap cables, try to use shorter ones (6 feet or less), and use the yellow cable for "Y" (luma), to minimize the degradation.
Component video requires shielded 75 ohm coaxial cables.
Techically, RCA connectors are not 75-ohm, even if the rest of the cable is.

So I hooked my DVD player up to my 45 inch Sharp lcd set the dvd player on progressive scan with component cables and the noise reduction setting to high and it looks better, but it still seems like I see some pixalation especially in the ratings screen at the beginning of the film. Is this normal? Am I sitting too close? I just expected it to look better, it seems like I can see all the imperfections in the DVD (Back to the Future). Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the help guys, its my first good tv. btw its a crappy dvd player a cyberhome.
you are blowing up a 480i picture onto a 45 inch screen with a higher resolution. you are going to see pixelization on almost any large flat panel.

you are blowing up a 480i picture onto a 45 inch screen with a higher resolution. you are going to see pixelization on almost any large flat panel.


Thats kinda what I thought, but I wasnt sure. I thought maybe it was something with the tv, but my xbox 360 looks great. How much will an upconverting dvd player help?

Thanks again for the patience!

So I hooked my DVD player up to my 45 inch Sharp lcd set the dvd player on progressive scan with component cables and the noise reduction setting to high and it looks better, but it still seems like I see some pixalation especially in the ratings screen at the beginning of the film. Is this normal? Am I sitting too close? I just expected it to look better, it seems like I can see all the imperfections in the DVD (Back to the Future). Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the help guys, its my first good tv. btw its a crappy dvd player a cyberhome.

Invest in a better DVD player. You've blown a bundle on the TV, $200 on the Oppo will make it all worth while. There is a big difference between even known name DVD players and the good stuff. I bought a cheap Sony closeout for the bedroom and had to use it with the plasma when my Panny RP82 died and couldn't believe the difference. Sony was pure junk and I stopped watching DVDs for a week until the Oppo arrived.

rat

Thats kinda what I thought, but I wasnt sure. I thought maybe it was something with the tv, but my xbox 360 looks great. How much will an upconverting dvd player help?

Thanks again for the patience!

The Xbox 360 is an upconverting DVD player when you hook it up to your HDTV via VGA cables, if you've applied the recent "spring update": http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/2006/0605-springrelease-features.htm

It says "DVD player outputs at native resolution over VGA connection". I've heard it does a really nice job of it too (I'm still deciding on which HDTV to buy).

The Xbox 360 is an upconverting DVD player when you hook it up to your HDTV via VGA cables, if you've applied the recent "spring update": http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/2006/0605-springrelease-features.htm

It says "DVD player outputs at native resolution over VGA connection". I've heard it does a really nice job of it too (I'm still deciding on which HDTV to buy).

Thanks for the tip, I didnt know that. Unfortunately the 45inch Sharp doesnt have a vga input...but I took rats advice and ordered an oppo!

I bought my mom the 42" Vizio LCD at Costco. WOW! That is was great set! I purchased the Sharp 45" LCD a couple months back, and it is a great set, but it is NOT $1500 better, not even close. I am taking my Sharp back and getting two Vizio's. One for my family room and one for my bedroom, or one Vizio and $1500 back.

This is my first post after lurking for a while. Glad to be here at avsforum :)

I am debating between the 50" Vizio P50HDM and the Panasonic 50" TH-50PX60U. I've heard good things about the HD display on the Vizio and the fact that it has HDMI inputs is great. I will be feeding my plasma a single HDMI cable from a video-switching A/V receiver. The problem is that I have heard the standard definition display on the Vizio is subpar or looks a little foggy or cloudy.

The Panasonic is clearly the better display for SD, HD and DVD but I'm wondering by how much. I will likely be watching a mix of 50% standard def. (CNN, CNBC, etc.) and 50% HD (NFL Sunday ticket, over-the-air local HD broadcasts, NFL Sunday Ticket and HBOHD, etc.). on my set. I don't want to be disappointed in 3 months that I skimped on a TV I'll own for at least the next 5 years.

Thanks.

10-9-8......

10-9-8......


Thanks. I said I'm new....drop me a hint, wise guy. What's the problem with the question? Is there a better place to post it??? Then tell me so. Was there a problem with putting in ballpark pricing that is not specific to any store? Just say it.

7...6...its still here.

if you've lurked like you said, you would know (or if you even read the title of the thread, uh, let's see "...NO PRICING...") not to post prices...

but on a positive note, you are in the right forum. and fwiw, i'd go with the panny...

if you've lurked like you said, you would know (or if you even read the title of the thread, uh, let's see "...NO PRICING...") not to post prices...

but on a positive note, you are in the right forum. and fwiw, i'd go with the panny...

Fair enough. Thanks!

sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way. wasn't my intent... its just that the mods are pretty quick to jump on that kinda stuff... good luck whichever way you go...

This is my first post after lurking for a while. Glad to be here at avsforum :)

I am debating between the 50" Vizio P50HDM and the Panasonic 50" TH-50PX60U. I've heard good things about the HD display on the Vizio and the fact that it has HDMI inputs is great. I will be feeding my plasma a single HDMI cable from a video-switching A/V receiver. The problem is that I have heard the standard definition display on the Vizio is subpar or looks a little foggy or cloudy.

The Panasonic is clearly the better display for SD, HD and DVD but I'm wondering by how much. I will likely be watching a mix of 50% standard def. (CNN, CNBC, etc.) and 50% HD (NFL Sunday ticket, over-the-air local HD broadcasts, NFL Sunday Ticket and HBOHD, etc.). on my set. I don't want to be disappointed in 3 months that I skimped on a TV I'll own for at least the next 5 years.

Thanks.

You can always get the Viz and even if in 3 months you change your mind, take it back for the Panny...

any info on the Maxent 50" would be much appreciated. The Maxent site finally has some specs, which look good, but I'd like to know whose glass their using. The 42x3 used alot of Panny parts, not so sure about this one... maybe we'll get lucky again, like with the 42x3!!


I called Maxent tech support two times yesterday and spoke with two different tech people about the panel. Both confirmed that the panel is a Panasonic! I’m 99.99% sure it’s a Panasonic panel. I'm a happy Vizio P50HD owner. :cool:

I called Maxent tech support two times yesterday and spoke with two different tech people about the panel. Both confirmed that the panel is a Panasonic! I’m 99.99% sure it’s a Panasonic panel. I'm a happy Vizio P50HD owner. :cool:

Hmmm...the Maxent is tempting though isn't it, fellow Viz owner :D

You can always get the Viz and even if in 3 months you change your mind, take it back for the Panny...

Would that work at Sam's Club even if there was nothing wrong with the set? I don't want to abuse the return policy but I would like to hang the Vizio on the wall for a month and then, if it isn't good enough, return it.

Would that work at Sam's Club even if there was nothing wrong with the set? I don't want to abuse the return policy but I would like to hang the Vizio on the wall for a month and then, if it isn't good enough, return it.

Technically you have 30 days for any reason although even after that you can take it back for any reason...whether that is considered "abusing the policy" or not is typically a huge, heated discussion around here...

Hey all. Need some help deciding.
Buying a 37" LCD at costco, i now have a choice between the Vizio L37HDTV10A and the "soon to be on sale" Sceptre X37SV-Komodo.

I've seen the Vizio in store and i like the image. Of course i cannot see the scepter as it is online only. Has anyone seen this new Sceptre? Should i just save the shipping money and go with the Vizio?
They seem pretty close in specs, other than the contrast ratio, which as i've read, is near meaningless, since hte specs are not standardized. The Scepre has 2 S-video and the Vizio only 1, and an extra RCA.

this TV will be in a bedroom, and will be used primarily to watch cable TV (analog or maybe digital if i decide i upgrade), and DVDs.

Thanks for the help.

jason

Hmmm...the Maxent is tempting though isn't it, fellow Viz owner :D


Pdawg...have you seen the picture on the Maxent? Just curious. Maybe its a different model now...but when I saw them about 6 months ago I wasnt too impressed with the blacks. That was in the store though....so really its not too vaild.

Did they ever find out a way to adjust geometry in the newer Panasonic models. I think last year it was taken away from the service menu. I was wondering if has returned of there is another way to play with it.

Pdawg...have you seen the picture on the Maxent? Just curious. Maybe its a different model now...but when I saw them about 6 months ago I wasnt too impressed with the blacks. That was in the store though....so really its not too vaild.

I haven't seen it yet...I was only saying that based on the fact it's a Panny...well - sort of a Panny...actually - it's Panny glass I think...hmmmm....

I haven't seen it yet...I was only saying that based on the fact it's a Panny...well - sort of a Panny...actually - it's Panny glass I think...hmmmm....


Its what's behind that glass that counts :)

Its what's behind that glass that counts :)

Totally :)

Hello, i'm a first poster... Purchased a Panny TH_50PHD8UK - love it - purchased from costco. i have a few questions.
1. i thought that costco's return policy was that you had to return it in it's original packing -ie th big massive boxes, on in this panny's case two of them - is their policy different for large screen tv's?

2. this tv has a PC input that will run at 1,366 × 768 dots - it has a "D-sub 15p" connection - is that a VGA connection.

3. has anybody hooked up their xbox 360 in this fashion - is it better quality than the component cables? for games? for DVDs? will it make dvd's look better than playing on standard 480p dvd player?

Any idea if we'll see any of the newer 46" (4696) Samsung's at Costco?

I returned my first Panasonic 50PX6U last weekend. See my prior posts. The digital tuner was faulty and I would constantly get dropouts on the digital channels using the QAM tuner. The Costco that I purchased it at did not have another one in stock to replace it at that time.

Anyway today they had one in stock so I decided to try a second one to see if the problem would be resolved. I noticed on the side of the box that this set was shipped out to the warehouse on 7/25. I had picked up my first set on 7/9 so I know that this one was from a different batch.

Anyway after setting this one up the the first thing I noticed was that the menu was different from my first set. It had a "Memory Card" option on it and an additional 3rd video input (that physically is not on the set). Now the 6U does not have an SD card slot on the front like the 60U has. But it does have one on the back marked "service only". I had used this slot on my previous set to upgrade the firmware to version 1.02.

So just for fun, I put an SD card in the slot marked "service only" with some jpg's on it. Then I went to the menu marked "Memory Card" and sure enough it displayed all of the jpg's. Could even get the slide show function, etc. to work.
This function is not supposed to be included on the 6U.

Then it gets even stranger. I looked at the software version in the menu and it was indeed 1.00, the same one I had originally had on my first set. I then put the 1.02 firmware upgrade (the same one that worked on my first set) in the memory slot, and the set would not load it - which indicates that it is the incorrect firmware for this set.

I have no idea what to think now. Who knows what firmware this set is running.
It will be interesting to see in the next few days if the digital tuner problems are solved......


Keith

I returned my first Panasonic 50PX6U last weekend. See my prior posts. The digital tuner was faulty and I would constantly get dropouts on the digital channels using the QAM tuner. The Costco that I purchased it at did not have another one in stock to replace it at that time.

Anyway today they had one in stock so I decided to try a second one to see if the problem would be resolved. I noticed on the side of the box that this set was shipped out to the warehouse on 7/25. I had picked up my first set on 7/9 so I know that this one was from a different batch.

Anyway after setting this one up the the first thing I noticed was that the menu was different from my first set. It had a "Memory Card" option on it and an additional 3rd video input (that physically is not on the set). Now the 6U does not have an SD card slot on the front like the 60U has. But it does have one on the back marked "service only". I had used this slot on my previous set to upgrade the firmware to version 1.02.

So just for fun, I put an SD card in the slot marked "service only" with some jpg's on it. Then I went to the menu marked "Memory Card" and sure enough it displayed all of the jpg's. Could even get the slide show function, etc. to work.
This function is not supposed to be included on the 6U.

Then it gets even stranger. I looked at the software version in the menu and it was indeed 1.00, the same one I had originally had on my first set. I then put the 1.02 firmware upgrade (the same one that worked on my first set) in the memory slot, and the set would not load it - which indicates that it is the incorrect firmware for this set.

I have no idea what to think now. Who knows what firmware this set is running.
It will be interesting to see in the next few days if the digital tuner problems are solved......


Keith
sounds like 60U firmware got on there somehow....

yeah, don't complain!!!

sounds like 60U firmware got on there somehow....

That could be correct but then why would this set not accept the 60U 1.02 upgrade that the other set would accept???? And Panasonic even confirmed that my first set (which did not have the "Memory Card" menu option like this one has) did have the same firmware as the 60U...

I am definitely confused. But if this set does not have the digital tuner problems that the first set had it looks like I will be coming out ahead on the deal....

Keith

That could be correct but then why would this set not accept the 60U 1.02 upgrade that the other set would accept????
ya got me...i have no clue.

Was in Sams last night and saw this TV. For a 42 inch hi def plasma the price seems real cheap. When you see this kind of deal and no reviews and disscustion i would think run don't walk from this deal.

What i found so far is it looks like is is made by Samsung and the remote stinks but that is about it. Does anyone have any feedback on this TV.

Was in Sams last night and saw this TV. For a 42 inch hi def plasma the price seems real cheap. When you see this kind of deal and no reviews and disscustion i would think run don't walk from this deal.

What i found so far is it looks like is is made by Samsung and the remote stinks but that is about it. Does anyone have any feedback on this TV.

Given the 1024x1024 resolution it is probably Hitachi glass. There is a dedicated discussion of this model (and a virtually identical model) under Plasma and LCD Flat Panel Displays called "Akai PDP4225M plasma review?" Read it over. The last posting was August 4th but there may be some helpful discussion there.

With the popularity of the Panasonic and Sharp flat screens at Costco, I wonder if a Pioneer Plasma will be available at Costco again?

does costco charge tax on online purchases?

Yes.

Based on the tax rate in your State.

Tim

I called Maxent tech support two times yesterday and spoke with two different tech people about the panel. Both confirmed that the panel is a Panasonic! I’m 99.99% sure it’s a Panasonic panel. I'm a happy Vizio P50HD owner. :cool:

I do not have this Maxent model but I had a MX-42X3 which has a Panasonic glass. I have given this set to my kid but I thought the picture on the MX-42x3 was excellent.

The MX-5020 HPM has "glass made in Japan" sticker on the front and frankly, I thought it looks stunning, very comparable to my Panasonic TH-50PX50U. I would not be surprised that this Maxent MX-5020 has a Panasonic glass as well.

The Vizio and Philips next to the Maxent did not look as good. Close but still not as good is the Toshiba 50".

With plasma, the calibration is very important, it took me some time to get it right. If I did not have the Panasonic, this would be the set I would buy.

;)

I just came back from Costco in East Hanover, NJ, and they had it prominently displayed. As soon as you walked in the door, it almost hits you in the face.

Unfortunately, it only had a dvd feed to it (480p) and I was not impressed by the picture. The blacks looked crushed. There was no remote, so I fiddled around with the settings from the front panel. Contrast was set very high. When I lowered it, the picture just got hazy. I played a little with the brightness, etc., but couldn't dial in a good pic.

I can't believe they have this right as you walk in the door, and don't even have a HD feed to it. dumbasses....

I have a 42x3, and I love the HD, but dvds and SD don't look that great. I know that's normal, but I think Maxent's scalers/deinterlacers are much more geared to HD than anything else.

Bottom line - I need to go to a different Costco where they have a HD feed.

And yes, it did have the funky "M" logo in the back (inside the case). It said it was made in May, 2006.

oh, by the way guys, the Panny 509UK is now on Costco's website.

Costco doesn't price-match from its own web store?

I purchased the Panny TC32LE60 ten days ago from my local Costco. Yesterday, I saw the price was lowered $200 on their web site. I called the store and they told me the lower price is only good for internet order.

Costco doesn't price-match from its own web store?

I purchased the Panny TC32LE60 ten days ago from my local Costco. Yesterday, I saw the price was lowered $200 on their web site. I called the store and they told me the lower price is only good for internet order.

Return the tv and get a full refund. Then order from their website for an instore pickup. I think they will let you do that.

cheezz

do you have to pay shipping for an in-store pickup?

do you have to pay shipping for an in-store pickup?

Not if its already in stock at the store.

cheezz

there is NO SUCH THING as in store pickup on costco.com. if you order off the website you pay shipping, and they ship it PERIOD. you CAN however return it to a store.

I bought my mom the 42" Vizio LCD at Costco. WOW! That is was great set! I purchased the Sharp 45" LCD a couple months back, and it is a great set, but it is NOT $1500 better, not even close. I am taking my Sharp back and getting two Vizio's. One for my family room and one for my bedroom, or one Vizio and $1500 back.

Is the 42" unit only available in the store? I don't see it on the website.

Is the 42" unit only available in the store? I don't see it on the website.

Only in store. Although, I think you can order it directly from Vizio at a higher price.

Invest in a better DVD player. You've blown a bundle on the TV, $200 on the Oppo will make it all worth while. There is a big difference between even known name DVD players and the good stuff. I bought a cheap Sony closeout for the bedroom and had to use it with the plasma when my Panny RP82 died and couldn't believe the difference. Sony was pure junk and I stopped watching DVDs for a week until the Oppo arrived.

rat

When I first read this I laughed when I read that you stopped watching DVD's until the Oppo arrived. After I hooked up my new Oppo DV-970HD tonight I am no longer laughing! I cant belive the difference in quality with the hdmi and upconversion..this is what I bought the 45 inch Sharp for!! I just finished watching the Vader / Luke saber duel in ROTJ for the fourth time! Thanks for the tip! :D

Costco doesn't price-match from its own web store?

I purchased the Panny TC32LE60 ten days ago from my local Costco. Yesterday, I saw the price was lowered $200 on their web site. I called the store and they told me the lower price is only good for internet order.

I've faced a similar predicament a year ago.

To benefit from the price reduction, you'll have to order it online and pay for shipping which is probably over $100. And the tax for your state will be also tacked on.

Hence you'll only derive a approximate $100 savings with the hassle of returning your set to Costco. I recommend holding on to the original set till you test out the newly shipped one.

It's frustrating what happens in today's pricing with electronic equipment. But as always, you get more for the money as time goes on.

Tiggerzz

Hey, dont shoot the messenger.
But I read this and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this, or this post is just a crock of bull. :cool:
t-i-n-y-u-r-l-dot-com/jfars

And what about his costco manager warranty claim? :eek:

Costco doesn't price-match from its own web store?

I purchased the Panny TC32LE60 ten days ago from my local Costco. Yesterday, I saw the price was lowered $200 on their web site. I called the store and they told me the lower price is only good for internet order.

in store also, check the Passport Booklet they sent.

Hey, dont shoot the messenger.
But I read this and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this, or this post is just a crock of bull. :cool:
t-i-n-y-u-r-l-dot-com/jfars

And what about his costco manager warranty claim? :eek:

Since when does a Costco employee become the expert on the corporate structure of an electronics mfg company?

V, Inc is an importer based in Costa Mesa, CA. I've never heard of any relationship with Sony, although it wouldn't suprise me if Sony was one of the mfg sources for some part of the Vizio products, or has some business relationship with V, Inc or whoever builds the Vizio displays. Most the electronics mfg companies have one or more relationships with each other as either vendor, customer or both. But "owned by"? I highly doubt it.

http://blogs.ocregister.com/gadgetress/archives/2005/11/a_company_calle.html

Since when does a Costco employee become the expert on the corporate structure of an electronics mfg company?

V, Inc is an importer based in Costa Mesa, CA. I've never heard of any relationship with Sony, although it wouldn't suprise me if Sony was one of the mfg sources for some part of the Vizio products, or has some business relationship with V, Inc or whoever builds the Vizio displays. Most the electronics mfg companies have one or more relationships with each other as either vendor, customer or both. But "owned by"? I highly doubt it.

http://blogs.ocregister.com/gadgetress/archives/2005/11/a_company_calle.html

The parent company of Vizio is Amtran based out of Tiawan. Digitimes is a great resource to get this kind of info.

I had a Costco guy tell me that Sony makes the sets; I don't believe him, although maybe some parts are from Sony.

Look, Vizio is what it is - ok picture at an incredible price. It is not comparable to top flat screens, but the vision is ok and the price is fantastic.

Bought a Vizio P42HDe last year and watch mostly HD programming on Cablevision over a 25' HDMI to DVI gold cable. Also use an upconverting 3:2 Toshiba DVD player over the same cable. I have enjoyed the TV but have been frustrated by blockiness/mosquitoing with fast motion (since I spend most of my time watching sports & DVDs), which seems to be a bigger problem on certain feeds (NBC's HD for example is much worse than ESPN's). There is also a bit of false contouring, especially with darker scenes. Part of the problem is related to the viewing distance, something I can't do much about in my house. And in general I could live with this PQ since I know I bought an entry-level set and shouldn't expect A+ performance.

However recently I have begun seeing crops of small red pixels intermittently which appear along the contours of objects, stay for a few seconds and disappear, only to return later. This seems to happen after the TV's been on for awhile, toward the end of a game for example. I am bothered enough by this distortion that I am likely to return the set to Costco. I would like the next set I take home to perform without these issues. The newer P50 Vizio set seems to have an upgraded deinterlacer and has gotten some pretty rave reviews. I certainly respect Panasonic's market share and loyal following too, and their 42" set looks great in the store...though I've read some less than complimentary reviews. Does anyone have a suggestion about a product that might eliminate the types of problems that I'm experiencing? I'm not sure how much of the artifact is related to the set itself vs. the cables vs. the feed, but I can't take the red dots any longer.

Your comments are most welcome.
Thanks
BV

I had a Costco guy tell me that Sony makes the sets; I don't believe him, although maybe some parts are from Sony.

Look, Vizio is what it is - ok picture at an incredible price. It is not comparable to top flat screens, but the vision is ok and the price is fantastic.
sony makes none of it. the panel is an LG panel, and the electronics are Amtran's. i think this is one reason the vizio customer service idiots dont know anything about them...they dont design them. they are built in taiwan and designed by engineers in taiwain.

After many helpful AVS threads I have pretty much narrowed my choices down to the Plasma TV, HTIB, wall-mount, and dvd player that I want.

Do the Big Box stores cut deals if you buy more than one or two big items??

Anyone have any success or tips for dealing with these stores??

does anyone have the Toshiba upcoverting dvd player from Costco? Its at a very attractive price, and with hdmi output, could be a good deal. Any opinions? Thanks!!

Go to the DVD player (standard) forum and you'll find extensive discussions of these players.

got it - thanks! bottom line, you get what you pay for...

First post,

Just came back from costco, and checked out their 50" Vizio. I like the price at [EDIT], but I am game to get anything else from costco as long as it's less than $3k

Do the Big Box stores cut deals if you buy more than one or two big items??

Anyone have any success or tips for dealing with these stores??


I have tried negotiating at a variety of these types of stores with varying degrees of success. At Costco I have had no success. I have tried a couple times on various items

My best success was at CompUSA about a year ago. When i was buying a laptop and some software I got them to knock off a couple hundred off the laptop throw in some kids games for free. In addition, I also got them to agree to knock over $800 off of a 50" plasma if I bought it at the same time. I almost went for that as well but my wife nixed that idea. :(

I find that the best way to get a great deal is to bring hundred dollar bills, pull it out of your pocket and count out your offer right in front of the salesman, and then make your offer. Sure it is really cheesy and it embarresses my wife (one of the best reasons for doing it in my opinion :p ) but in the end after getting their manager they always come down.

(for best buy anyway)

bring 100-150 dollars more than the tv costs (cash) to the store...

tell them you want the TV and the most expensive extended warranty (400-500 dollars) for your tv price + 150...

return the warranty within thirty days to another best buy (or the same one with different people working) for the full 400-500 bucks...



Trust me, this works. They'll give you the TV for whatever you want when they think you're buying the 500 dollar warranty (95% pure profit for them and managers get huge kickbacks from these).

Quick question. Got the 45 inch Sharp from Costco and just got my HD box. I have it hooked up with component cables and the hd picture is ok. Will the dvi / hdmi connection improve the picture. Also is the cable I want t get fpr the hdmi connection? Its a comcast hd box with a dvi input on the back

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=2218&seq=1&format=2&style=

Thanks for the help! :D

the answers are: probably no, and yes. component and HDMI are very close in quality on most sets. it usually comes down to slightly better one way or the other. on my pio5070, i think HDMI looks slightly better blacks and sharpness wise than component from my sa8300hd box. YMMV