Also whats up with CBS? survivor not in HD?It will be HD at next location. Apparently Jeff Probst (sp.) would not go HD part way and wanted to wait until all hand held cameras could be HD. They are using Sony and switching to Sony HDCam. I saw this in the local newspaper. The columnist has been harping on that for a while and was glad to report this. /Dan

TWC here in Staten Island added 10 HD channels today. We now officially have 50 HD channels.

Are you getting all those because of SDV (Switched Digital Video)? That's considerably more than most TWC outlets.

Are you getting all those because of SDV (Switched Digital Video)? That's considerably more than most TWC outlets.

Nope... no SDV here yet

TWC-NY/NJ is dropping analog service (1 boro/region at a time)

Currently, Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Queens are now analog free (Manhattan North is next)

RE: SDV

TWC stated the following in its 10-K filing with the SEC:

"Availability of SDV technology may not enable TWC to effectively manage its existing bandwidth.

As of December 31, 2007, TWC had deployed switched digital video, or SDV, technology to over 1.4 million digital video subscribers, and TWC intends to further deploy this technology during 2008. SDV allows TWC to save
bandwidth by transmitting particular programming services only to groups of homes or nodes where subscribers are viewing the programming at a particular time rather than broadcasting it to all subscriber homes. Deploying SDV requires installation of new hardware and software at each cable system where it is employed. In addition, bandwidth savings are based on the actual viewing habits of subscribers. As a result, TWC may experience operational difficulties in deploying SDV and may not realize all of the efficiencies it anticipates from the deployment of this technology. In addition, the FCC may interpret existing regulation or introduce new regulation to restrict cable operators’ ability to use SDV technology. If TWC experiences operational difficulties in deploying SDV, if TWC is unable to gain anticipated additional network capacity as a result of its SDV deployment plans or if TWC is prohibited by regulation from using SDV technology, TWC may have difficulty carrying the volume of HDTV channels and other bandwidth-intensive traffic carried by competitors and may be forced to make costly
upgrades to its systems in order to remain competitive."

Available at http://ir.timewarnercable.com/annuals.cfm

what is the deal with the lack of SPEED HD

can some one help!?

what is the deal with the lack of SPEED HD

can some one help!?

there is no known agreement to carry it.

The Staten Island announcement was incorrect and changed

RE: SDV

TWC stated the following in its 10-K filing with the SEC:

"Availability of SDV technology may not enable TWC to effectively manage its existing bandwidth.

As of December 31, 2007, TWC had deployed switched digital video, or SDV, technology to over 1.4 million digital video subscribers, and TWC intends to further deploy this technology during 2008. SDV allows TWC to save
bandwidth by transmitting particular programming services only to groups of homes or nodes where subscribers are viewing the programming at a particular time rather than broadcasting it to all subscriber homes. Deploying SDV requires installation of new hardware and software at each cable system where it is employed. In addition, bandwidth savings are based on the actual viewing habits of subscribers. As a result, TWC may experience operational difficulties in deploying SDV and may not realize all of the efficiencies it anticipates from the deployment of this technology. In addition, the FCC may interpret existing regulation or introduce new regulation to restrict cable operators’ ability to use SDV technology. If TWC experiences operational difficulties in deploying SDV, if TWC is unable to gain anticipated additional network capacity as a result of its SDV deployment plans or if TWC is prohibited by regulation from using SDV technology, TWC may have difficulty carrying the volume of HDTV channels and other bandwidth-intensive traffic carried by competitors and may be forced to make costly
upgrades to its systems in order to remain competitive."

Available at http://ir.timewarnercable.com/annuals.cfm

The paragraph you cited is on page 28, in the section titled:
Additional Risks of TWC’s Operations

Their expectations, though, are on page 9 of that same document:

TWC believes that its network architecture is sufficiently flexible and extensible to support its current requirements. However, in order for TWC to continue to innovate and deliver new services to its customers, as well as meet its competitive needs, TWC anticipates that it will need to use more efficiently the bandwidth available to its systems over the next few years. TWC believes that this can be achieved largely without costly upgrades. For example, to accommodate increasing numbers of HDTV channels and other demands for greater capacity in its network, TWC is deploying a technology known as switched digital video (“SDV”). This expansion of network capacity relies on switching equipment in TWC’s headends and hubs and, as necessary, segmenting its plant to ensure that switches and lasers are shared among fewer households. By using SDV, only those channels that are being watched within a given grouping of households are transmitted to those households. Since it is generally the case that not all channels are being watched at all times by a given group of households, this frees up capacity that can then be made available for other uses. As a result of this process, capacity is made available for new services, including HDTV channels. As of December 31, 2007, over 1.4 million (or 18%) of digital video subscribers received some portion of their video service via SDV technology. TWC expects to continue to deploy SDV technology during 2008.

I thought I saw a couple episodes in HD? So I didnt know if it was the stb or my tv or cbs. But I hope all this mess gets cleared up soon and by mess I mean all the different formats that are shown on just one channel, from the main show in HD full screen to a commercial in sd 4:3 to a commercial in HD to a commercial in what looks like widescreen in 4:3. I get wral raliegh news at 6 in HD and its stunning and thats followed by the cbs evening news(dont watch it) with the bars on the side. A local station showing up a national one.



It will be HD at next location. Apparently Jeff Probst (sp.) would not go HD part way and wanted to wait until all hand held cameras could be HD. They are using Sony and switching to Sony HDCam. I saw this in the local newspaper. The columnist has been harping on that for a while and was glad to report this. /Dan

what is the deal with the lack of SPEED HD

can some one help!?

SpeedHD is on the HD Showcase on demand. Not sure why we don't have it yet, but we should probably look forward to it soon.

Still no word on these...


HD Channels Launching

IFC-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)
AMC-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)
WE-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)
FUSE-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)
Sci-Fi-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)
Bravo-HD --- (Coming soon to Hawaii)


but we just got ESPN NewsHD and DisneyHD in Hawaii today.

Why can't I find trutv hd anywhere on the front page?

Why can't I find trutv hd anywhere on the front page?

because truTV-HD does not exist nor has their been any word about a possible launch in the future.

Does anyone know if Turner Classic Movies (TCM) exists as an HD channel? Will we ever see it on our TW systems?

Does anyone know if Turner Classic Movies (TCM) exists as an HD channel? Will we ever see it on our TW systems?

I don't believe it does *yet*. I've seen talk about a Turner Classic Movies HD being in the works though.

I don't believe it does *yet*. I've seen talk about a Turner Classic Movies HD being in the works though.If it does come into reality, I wonder if they will use "StretchOVision" like many of the other Turner networks (TNN, TBS)?

If it does come into reality, I wonder if they will use "StretchOVision" like many of the other Turner networks (TNN, TBS)?:eek: If that’s the case then forget it...

...But I’d love to see their programming (TCM) in HD, in their original aspect ratio. :cool: That would be sweet.

:eek: If that’s the case then forget it...

...But I’d love to see their programming (TCM) in HD, in their original aspect ratio. :cool: That would be sweet.

A few of their old movies are on prints so good that they almost look like HD when they're shown in analog. They should be stunning in actual HD.

Oh yes, they MUST remain in their original aspect ratio. Stretching will never, never do!

A few of their old movies are on prints so good that they almost look like HD when they're shown in analog. They should be stunning in actual HD.


Film has much more resolution than digital.

Film has much more resolution than digital.Yeh, but the question is what resolution was the transfer made in. If they simply take 480i transfers and upscale them to 1080i, then little is gained.

Nobody asked that question but yeah there are many factors that go into how "HD" they would want to be.

:eek: If that’s the case then forget it...

...But I’d love to see their programming (TCM) in HD, in their original aspect ratio. :cool: That would be sweet.

I seriously can't imagine that a movie channel dedicated to the "classics" would commit an atrocity like low-res, TNT-style stretch-o-vision.

I seriously can't imagine that a movie channel dedicated to the "classics" would commit an atrocity like low-res, TNT-style stretch-o-vision.

I seriuosly can't imagine anyone in their right minds creating an atrocity like low-res, TNT-style stretch-o-vision. :mad::mad: But TNT has!!!

Film has much more resolution than digital.
Film negatives have more resolution than most digital movies, but after copying to prints and mechanical theater projection, film resolution plummets to about the equivalent of 720p HD. (See consultant Matt Cowan's pdf paper (http://www.etconsult.com/papers/Technical%20Issues%20in%20Cinema%20Resolution.pdf), page 8 table.) While digital-cinema camera recordings such as the 4k-sensor RED One (http://www.red.com/cameras/tech_specs) (~3.2k effective resolution) can be digitally projected at ~3.2k effective resolution, cinematography camera filters used shrink resolution, and transfer to film (for most theaters) brings in film losses again. -- John

Okey doke, but at issue was how good prints of old movies might look on TCM HD.

TWC here in Staten Island added 12 HD channels this past week. It's because we have SDV.
We now have a grand total of 51 HD channels here in Staten Island, including HD Movies on Demand.

TWC here in Staten Island added 12 HD channels this past week. It's because we have SDV.
We now have a grand total of 51 HD channels here in Staten Island, including HD Movies on Demand.


S.I. does not have SDV, but has eliminated analog. That's where all the space to add HD channels at will comes from.

I believe the reason for the additional HD channels is due to the elimination of the analogue channels. edit,,, I see Andy just beat me to it..:cool:

I believe the reason for the additional HD channels is due to the elimination of the analogue channels. edit,,, I see Andy just beat me to it..:cool:
Either way, we are getting more HD channels here in SI. When they bring SDV to SI, oh baby, our HD lineup will explode.
We have 51 HD channels now, I believe the most of any TWC division. Will SDV free up even more space for HD, or add capacity or something like that?

I just got an 8300HDC HD-DVR. I have an 8300HD in my living room, this is for my office. I can't tune to any of the new SDV HD channels with the box. I called Time Warner and they said they "think" it has to be hooked up for 24 hours, but "really don't know" why it's not getting these channels. My other DVR (no cable card in that one) gets the channels with no problem.

Anybody have any idea what the deal is?

I just got an 8300HDC HD-DVR. I have an 8300HD in my living room, this is for my office. I can't tune to any of the new SDV HD channels with the box. I called Time Warner and they said they "think" it has to be hooked up for 24 hours, but "really don't know" why it's not getting these channels. My other DVR (no cable card in that one) gets the channels with no problem.

Anybody have any idea what the deal is?Yes. I might be a problem with the return path signal. Can you get On Demand OK? That also depends on a good return path. It could be an issue with a sub-standard splitter or an amp in the line that is not in the path for the living room.

Time warner just updated channel changes for Staten Island, NY.

"Effective May 30th Golf Channel on Demand (ch. 1009) and Speed Channel on Demand (1026) will be dropped and the content featured as part of Sports on Demand.

Effective June 1st we will launch Find It On Demand on ch. 1278.

Effective June 11th we will launch the international premium NTV America on ch. 523, The Jewish Channel on Demand on ch. 528, HD MOD on ch. 700, Planet Green HD (formerly Discovery Home HD) on ch. 768."

So we will be getting a full HD on demand channel and another Discovery network (The worst one, go figure.)

"planet green HD"? Who's idea was that, anyway?

Time warner just updated channel changes for Staten Island, NY.

"Effective May 30th Golf Channel on Demand (ch. 1009) and Speed Channel on Demand (1026) will be dropped and the content featured as part of Sports on Demand.

Effective June 1st we will launch Find It On Demand on ch. 1278.

Effective June 11th we will launch the international premium NTV America on ch. 523, The Jewish Channel on Demand on ch. 528, HD MOD on ch. 700, Planet Green HD (formerly Discovery Home HD) on ch. 768."

So we will be getting a full HD on demand channel and another Discovery network (The worst one, go figure.)

"planet green HD"? Who's idea was that, anyway?
wait a minute, HD-MOD on June 11th? I already have HD-MOD on ch.700. Just got it a few days ago.

I just got an 8300HDC HD-DVR. I have an 8300HD in my living room, this is for my office. I can't tune to any of the new SDV HD channels with the box. I called Time Warner and they said they "think" it has to be hooked up for 24 hours, but "really don't know" why it's not getting these channels. My other DVR (no cable card in that one) gets the channels with no problem.

Anybody have any idea what the deal is?

You need to go back to your member profile and fill in the field about where you're from. This needs to be constantly repeated, unfortunately. Nobody can help you with a question that specific if they don't know where you live.

SPG1, I think we have a preview now, supposedly the June 11th one will have a larger selection.

SPG1, I think we have a preview now, supposedly the June 11th one will have a larger selection.
I think you are right because HD-MOD has a small selection compared to Movies On Demand.

What's better? Going all digital or getting SDV? They did away with analog in S.I. and made us all digital. We got more HD channels because of this (We have 51 HD channels here in S.I.). I am just wondering, if they bring SDV to S.I., will we get MORE HD channels?

What's better? Going all digital or getting SDV? They did away with analog in S.I. and made us all digital. We got more HD channels because of this (We have 51 HD channels here in S.I.). I am just wondering, if they bring SDV to S.I., will we get MORE HD channels?


Going all digital is much better.

We were one of the first TWC areas to use SDV,and we do not have anywhere near 51 HD channels.:rolleyes:

Going all digital is much better.Not if you have analog TVs connected directly to cable!:eek:

Going all digital is much better.

We were one of the first TWC areas to use SDV,and we do not have anywhere near 51 HD channels.:rolleyes:

But that is not the reason we do not.

"And certainly logical for Time Warner, which plans to deploy switched digital in all of its markets. “SDV is absolutely living up to its potential,” Time Warner corporate executive vice president and chief technology officer Mike LaJoie said. “Switching allows you to introduce as many channels as you want, including HD." (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6408717.html)

Not if you have analog TVs connected directly to cable!:eek:

Why would anyone do that?

Why would anyone do that?

Are you serious? Because many of us have more than 1-2 TVs that we want to be able to watch channels like ESPN, USA, etc. on without having to pay lease fees for extra cable boxes. I still say that it would be the height of stupidity for cable to drop analog service. If cable ever drops analog and bricks 3 of my existing TVs, that would eliminate the biggest obstacle that keeps me from switching to Direct TV.

Are you serious? Because many of us have more than 1-2 TVs that we want to be able to watch channels like ESPN, USA, etc. on without having to pay lease fees for extra cable boxes. I still say that it would be the height of stupidity for cable to drop analog service. If cable ever drops analog and bricks 3 of my existing TVs, that would eliminate the biggest obstacle that keeps me from switching to Direct TV.

Over a year ago, in some areas of central CA, Comcast did go digital on almost everything except the "limited basic" tier. BUT what they did was provide, free of any additional charge, a very basic digital-to-analog converter and remote for each analog TV a customer has. We have 3 TV's total up there, all analog, and one leased STB. So I got 2 of the free D-A converters. We'll see what TWC does if/when they drop analog channels.

When in diag mode in my STB, it has an SDV page that says..

SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: Ready
Packets Sent/Recv: 348/1

No new HD channels but does this say SDV is up and running? Am in the Kansas City market.

Here in Staten Island, of those 51 HD channels we have, 43 HD channels are non-premium. The remaining 8 HD channels, which are premiums and are included when you buy that particular premium are, HBO HD, Showtime HD, Cinemax HD, TMC HD, Starz HD, HDNET, HDNET Movies, and MOJO. The only one of those I have is HBO HD.

Are you serious? Because many of us have more than 1-2 TVs that we want to be able to watch channels like ESPN, USA, etc. on without having to pay lease fees for extra cable boxes. I still say that it would be the height of stupidity for cable to drop analog service. If cable ever drops analog and bricks 3 of my existing TVs, that would eliminate the biggest obstacle that keeps me from switching to Direct TV.

Of course, I'm serious. I have 3 tv's. If they were all analog (one is), I would buy 3 $50 boxes in the next year using 2 $40 vouchers from the government.

Of course, I'm serious. I have 3 tv's. If they were all analog (one is), I would buy 3 $50 boxes in the next year using 2 $40 vouchers from the government.

Those boxes do nothing for cable though, only OTA TV.

When in diag mode in my STB, it has an SDV page that says..

SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: Ready
Packets Sent/Recv: 348/1

No new HD channels but does this say SDV is up and running? Am in the Kansas City market.No it doesn't. It just indicates that some pieces are in place. So the system is likely getting close.

There should be a line on a diagnostic screen indicating service type. It will indicate Broadcast or Switched. The following is a SARA diagnostic screen showing a Switched channel:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh85/DaveHancock_bucket/SDVPg39a.jpg

Of course, I'm serious. I have 3 tv's. If they were all analog (one is), I would buy 3 $50 boxes in the next year using 2 $40 vouchers from the government.??????????????Those boxes are for OTA only - not cable!

Here in Staten Island, of those 51 HD channels we have, 43 HD channels are non-premium. The remaining 8 HD channels, which are premiums and are included when you buy that particular premium are, HBO HD, Showtime HD, Cinemax HD, TMC HD, Starz HD, HDNET, HDNET Movies, and MOJO. The only one of those I have is HBO HD.

You left out 1 more 'Premium' - GameHD (part of MLB Extra Innings and NHL Center Ice)

Those of you who are arguing against dropping analog have to remember one other thing:

In NYC, everyone had to have a cable box either way for over 10 years now. All they really did was make you get a new cable box. In the areas where this is not true, it is a bigger issue. (Not sure if this applies to Manhattan.)

Those of you who are arguing against dropping analog have to remember one other thing:

In NYC, everyone had to have a cable box either way for over 10 years now. All they really did was make you get a new cable box. In the areas where this is not true, it is a bigger issue. (Not sure if this applies to Manhattan.)

Yogi would say nobody knows this because NYC is so crowded nobody lives there anymore.

You left out 1 more 'Premium' - GameHD (part of MLB Extra Innings and NHL Center Ice)
Oops, I did leave out GAME HD. Ok, so out of 51 HD channels, 42 are non-premiums. GAME HD is actually on ch. 445 and ch. 791 and both are HD channels.

??????????????Those boxes are for OTA only - not cable!

I stand corrected. Guess I would have to hope to get one of the boxes that another poster said he got free from the cable company. If the cable company dropped analog, it would seem that they would have to do as they did with the other poster. .............. Doesn't one analog channel equal 2 digital? Seems like dropping analog channels to make room might come to seem like a good idea.

You could always rent a box, but nobody likes being forced to do that. The free box might very well become a reality when and if the cable company decides it wants to swim with the tide.

I stand corrected. Guess I would have to hope to get one of the boxes that another poster said he got free from the cable company. If the cable company dropped analog, it would seem that they would have to do as they did with the other poster. .............. Doesn't one analog channel equal 2 digital? Seems like dropping analog channels to make room might come to seem like a good idea.

You could always rent a box, but nobody likes being forced to do that. The free box might very well become a reality when and if the cable company decides it wants to swim with the tide.

1 analog channel is equal to 2-3 HD digital channels or 8-12 SD digital channels

Hi Dave. It's good to interact with you again. We have missed you on the local forum. I just got off the phone with a TWC service rep who was helping me with an issue with my SA8300HDC. While I was waiting for my box to reboot, I asked her when TWC Rochester was getting rid of their analog channels. She told me next year. The thing is, it sounded like she was referring to the OTA switchover, not cable. I mentioned that the FCC was allowing the continuation of cable analog signals until 2012, and she didn't know anything about that. So, who knows. I thought I would pass that nugget along to you.Typical that the database for TW reps has little info. I'm sure she was confusing the analog OTA shutdown with cable. Actually, the FCC is essentially REQUIRING* carrying analog versions of local OTA stations till AT LEAST 2012. They have indicated that they will review the situation before then and may well REQUIRE them to continue supporting analog PAST 2012.

*To be more correct, the FCC only requires that cable make these local DTV stations receivable on analog sets connected by cable. It is up to cable to determine how: 1) Convert DTV signals to analog for distribution on the system; or 2) Convert to 100% digital and provide converters for the connected analog sets.

Typical that the database for TW reps has little info. I'm sure she was confusing the analog OTA shutdown with cable. Actually, the FCC is essentially REQUIRING* carrying analog versions of local OTA stations till AT LEAST 2012. They have indicated that they will review the situation before then and may well REQUIRE them to continue supporting analog PAST 2012.

*To be more correct, the FCC only requires that cable make these local DTV stations receivable on analog sets connected by cable. It is up to cable to determine how: 1) Convert DTV signals to analog for distribution on the system; or 2) Convert to 100% digital and provide converters for the connected analog sets.

Dave, is SDV used with the analog channels or the digital channels or both?

Switched Digital Video

Dave, is SDV used with the analog channels or the digital channels or both?Gary answered that. I should add that the cable companies are not using SDV for all digital channels - just the less watched ones (like Food HD).

Gary answered that. I should add that the cable companies are not using SDV for all digital channels - just the less watched ones (like Food HD).

Perhaps, a better question: CAN it be used for analog? (switched ANALOG video ................ SAV) Seriously, more and more people will have digital sets and the need for supplying analog will be decreasing. If there is a shortcoming to switching available channels in this manner, the problem would be borne by a shrinking percentage of the viewing public.

Perhaps, a better question: CAN it be used for analog? (switched ANALOG video ................ SAV) Seriously, more and more people will have digital sets and the need for supplying analog will be decreasing. If there is a shortcoming to switching available channels in this manner, the problem would be borne by a shrinking percentage of the viewing public.

What's the point? Analog is dead in less than a year, why work on something twice? They are having enough problems with their SDV situation, TWC don't need anything else holding them up.

Originally Posted by Stan54
Perhaps, a better question: CAN it be used for analog? (switched ANALOG video ................ SAV) Seriously, more and more people will have digital sets and the need for supplying analog will be decreasing. If there is a shortcoming to switching available channels in this manner, the problem would be borne by a shrinking percentage of the viewing public.What's the point? Analog is dead in less than a year, why work on something twice? They are having enough problems with their SDV situation, TWC don't need anything else holding them up.VisionOn, A couple of thing's about your response: The only analog thing dead in less than a year is MOST (but not all) OTA. Nothing analog is necessarily DEAD on cable. In fact, the FCC has mandated that cable make local OTA stations available to connected analog sets till at least 2012.

Also what do you mean by: They are having enough problems with their SDV situationThey DO NOT appear to be having problems with SDV (we have it here).

Stan54: Actually they COULD do analog SDV, but there would just be no reason to do it. SDV requires a cable box to communicate BACK to the local node that a certain channel is wanted. So a box is required, it might just as well be digital - which takes 1/12 the bandwidth of analog.

VisionOn, A couple of thing's about your response: The only analog thing dead in less than a year is MOST (but not all) OTA. Nothing analog is necessarily DEAD on cable. In fact, the FCC has mandated that cable make local OTA stations available to connected analog sets till at least 2012.

Also what do you mean by: They DO NOT appear to be having problems with SDV (we have it here).

Stan54: Actually they COULD do analog SDV, but there would just be no reason to do it. SDV requires a cable box to communicate BACK to the local node that a certain channel is wanted. So a box is required, it might just as well be digital - which takes 1/12 the bandwidth of analog.

OK, Dave, SDV (or SAV in the case of analog) requires a box. It seems to me it would be more reasonable to place the burden of a box on the viewers of analog tv than on the viewers of digital tv. .................... I have cablecard on one digital tv and strictly QAM on another digital tv.

Most people prefer the benefits of a box to the limitations of cablecard and QAM.

Most people prefer the benefits of a box to the limitations of cablecard and QAM.

Except for the reported slight degradation of HD picture from the box, I, too, would prefer the box, but it costs $96 per year. My annual cable costs are already significant.

Other than not working with SDV, cablecard doesn't seem to limit me at all. It's great. The new Panasonic plasma this Fall, supposedly, will have the new cablecard capability and I hope to be able to take advantage when I buy another one for the livingroom later this year.

Naturally, QAM is very limiting, but my wife couldn't care less, so far. As we know, HD is primarily a male thing. All you have to do is read the AVS Forum and visit the stores for proof.

Other than not working with SDV, cablecard doesn't seem to limit me at all.

Well that would be a biggie to many. And getting biggie-er.

Naturally, QAM is very limiting, but my wife couldn't care less, so far. As we know, HD is primarily a male thing. All you have to do is read the AVS Forum and visit the stores for proof.

Don't make such assumptions. My girlfriend just bought an HDTV and researched out DirecTV for the most HD channels without a hint of input from me.

I think the market for HD is more diverse than the folks who post around here.

And TWC's compression/bitrate is horrible for HD compared to DirecTV and Dish. Transformers on MaxHD looks terrible with fast action scenes. So much blockiness, it doesn't even qualify for decent standard tv. Unfortunately I live in a condo building that doesn't allow dishes otherwise I'd switch.

Was hoping TWC SDV would have better bitrates and compression ratios but it sounds like others are saying there is no improvement. TWC should be sued by the content providers for reducing quality below not just HD, but below SD.

And TWC's compression/bitrate is horrible for HD compared to DirecTV and Dish. Transformers on MaxHD looks terrible with fast action scenes. So much blockiness, it doesn't even qualify for decent standard tv. Unfortunately I live in a condo building that doesn't allow dishes otherwise I'd switch.

Was hoping TWC SDV would have better bitrates and compression ratios but it sounds like others are saying there is no improvement. TWC should be sued by the content providers for reducing quality below not just HD, but below SD.

Its kinda ironic that the 'HD Lite' badge of shame has transferred from DBS to Cable. SDV should fix it though....

Several have said that TWC's SDV doesn't improve compression or bitrates. Hope that's not the case.

Several have said that TWC's SDV doesn't improve compression or bitrates. Hope that's not the case.

That probably depends on the division. Up in Albany we have some of the most channels and what I have tested has all been essentially what the bitrate should be. Albany however, did implement SDV before they started any compression and almost all additions have been SDV. Adding all these channels has not caused them to start compressing though.

So much blockiness, it doesn't even qualify for decent standard tv.

TWC or Vizio? :eek:

The Vizio tuner with local HD stations doesn't show blockiness with fast action scense. Clearly less compression over the air than with TWC. So it's TWC, not Vizio.

acs, hope you are right about less compression used with SDV.

The Vizio tuner with local HD stations doesn't show blockiness with fast action scense. Clearly less compression over the air than with TWC. So it's TWC, not Vizio.

acs, hope you are right about less compression used with SDV.I've got two points:


From my experience with Vizio TV's there are a lot of video processing issues. I wouldn't be surprised if your problem was with a crappy TV.

PLEASE, post your LOCATION in your profile! As acs12798 said, each system is different. My experience here with the new TW channels (as all TW HD channels) is EXCELLENT - in cases far superior to OTA. So why not make the effort to include your location in your profile, so we can all understand what system you are complaining about IN ALL OF YOUR POSTS!

And TWC's compression/bitrate is horrible for HD compared to DirecTV and Dish. Transformers on MaxHD looks terrible with fast action scenes. So much blockiness, it doesn't even qualify for decent standard tv. Unfortunately I live in a condo building that doesn't allow dishes otherwise I'd switch.

I have experienced exactly what you are talking about (MPEG artifacting caused by TWC's rate shaping). However, TWC in my neighborhood has improved greatly over the last year as they are gradually eliminating analog channels. My parents have Dish and I find the softness and artifacting much more egregious than TWC here in SoCal.

Lower quality video processing often amplifies MPEG artifacting but does not cause it. My grandfather has a Visio LCD and it is a decent panel, but I find that its does poorly with subpar signals. It is by no means a "bad" display, but you do get what you pay for.

From my experience with Vizio TV's there are a lot of video processing issues. I wouldn't be surprised if your problem was with a crappy TV.


I guess I was a little too subtle. ;)

I received a flyer from TWC in the mail today.

Here in SoCal they are adding more HD channels soon.

No date is given, but the flyer states:

"Get ready to watch History, Disney, and Food Network in HD and MORE COMING SOON"

COMING SOON...
Food Network HD
A&E HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
National Geographic HD
History HD
Vs HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
HGTV HD
ESPNEWS HD

Currently in Staten Island, we have the following HD channels:

A&E HD
ABC Family HD
Animal Planet HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
Disney HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
ESPN NEWS HD
Food Network HD
Fox Business News HD
Fox News HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
HD Theater
HGTV HD
History Channel HD
The Learning Channel HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
Music: High Definition
MSG HD
MSG+ HD
National Geographic HD
NY1 HD
Planet Green HD (Launching June 11th, 2008)
Science Channel HD
SportsNet New York HD (Get your New York sports here!!!)
TBS HD
TLC HD
TNT HD
Toon Disney HD
Travel Channel HD
Universal HD
Versus/Golf HD
WABC HD
WCBS HD
Weather Channel HD
WNBC HD
WNET - Thirteen HD
WNYW Fox HD
WPIX - CW HD
WWOR – My Network HD
YES HD

Free With Sports Packages-
MLB HD

HDXtra-
HD Net
HD Net Movies
MOJO HD

Free with Premium Services-
HBO HD
Cinemax HD
Showtime HD
The Movie Channel HD
Starz HD

Pay Per View-
HD Movies On Demand

I am telling you, I am very satisfied with my TWC HD lineup, and there's only one other HD channel I would like to have:

SPEED CHANNEL HD

Once we get Speed Channel HD here in Staten Island, I will be a 100% satisfied TWC HD customer. :)

Oh, and another thing, Discovery Times Channel was renamed Investigation Discovery right? How come on my SA8300HD it still says Discovery Times Channel?

Well that would be a biggie to many. And getting biggie-er.

Yes, and that is why I said earlier that SDV should be used on the cable's analog channels (SAV) rather than the newer digital form of transmission. Fortunately, my area doesn't have SDV, yet. My cablecard works great.

Hey, Dave, will Panasonic's forthcoming 2 way cablecard work with SDV?

Don't make such assumptions. My girlfriend just bought an HDTV and researched out DirecTV for the most HD channels without a hint of input from me.

I think the market for HD is more diverse than the folks who post around here.

Would you say that I am wrong then in believing that HD is primarily a male thing? It seems more than obvious to me after 3 or 4 years of researching this stuff that the strong majority of females are just not interested. Of course, there are exceptions.

Once we get Speed Channel HD here in Staten Island, I will be a 100% satisfied TWC HD customer. :)

and that's "The Power of ... FiOS!"

Meanwhile in the non-FiOS world it's still Switched Digital Tumbleweeds.

Yes, and that is why I said earlier that SDV should be used on the cable's analog channels (SAV) rather than the newer digital form of transmission.I still don't understand why you keep saying this:

SAV would still require a box
You must have missed what I said earlier: "So a box is required, it might just as well be digital - which takes 1/12 the bandwidth of analog." So there is NO advantage for ANYONE for them to do something like SAV.
(Could be the reason why something like that has not been commercialized)
Hey, Dave, will Panasonic's forthcoming 2 way cablecard work with SDV?If it is "tru2way" AND your cable system supports that (they might not right off) - YES.

BTW: It is not the cablecard that is 2way (they all support 2way) it is the TV (or STB).

I've got two points:


From my experience with Vizio TV's there are a lot of video processing issues. I wouldn't be surprised if your problem was with a crappy TV.

PLEASE, post your LOCATION in your profile! As acs12798 said, each system is different. My experience here with the new TW channels (as all TW HD channels) is EXCELLENT - in cases far superior to OTA. So why not make the effort to include your location in your profile, so we can all understand what system you are complaining about IN ALL OF YOUR POSTS!



No need to shout in bold, I'm in Kansas City. Don't think it's the Vizio because I don't have blockiness with OTA or with Blueray directly attached. Also, a friend has the same Vizio 52" with DirecTV and not same level of blockiness with fast action scenes.

Anyone who does video processing (I do) can demonstrate blockiness when lowering bit rates or if setting compression too high. It's likely one of those two factors, not the Vizio video processor.

Lots of articles out there on people complaining about cable HD compression.

BTW, check out Transformers on MaxHD. The last action scenes in downtown LA have more blockiness than clarity - it's deplorable on a 52" display.

Anyroad, hoping SDV will improve things.

No need to shout in bold, I'm in Kansas City.I didn't "shout in BOLD" - only in CAPS. But it does not appear that you are going to pay any attention to the suggestion either.

Perhaps if I asked nicely::)

Would you PLEASE put your location in your profile so when you make posts about your cable system that we all can immediately understand just what system you are on.

Or you could just ask instead of making snappy demands. Kansas City.

Click on UserCP/Edit Profile

and that's "The Power of ... FiOS!"


Yes that Power is becoming increasingly evident -
[end of commentary, begin quoted article]

" Verizon Raising FiOS Prices Again Soon
Sometime this quarter by an unspecified amount...
01:45PM Monday Apr 28 2008 by Karl
tags: prices · Fiber · business · telco · Verizon FIOS

Discussing this morning's earnings, Verizon CFO Doreen Toben told investors, analysts and reporters on a conference call today that FiOS users can expect a new round of price hikes this quarter. "You may recall we increased prices for selected products in the first quarter last year," said Toben while discussing FiOS (see transcript (pdf)). "We anticipate increasing prices once again in certain products and bundles in the second quarter this year." Which FiOS products and bundles was not specified.

Verizon has consistently nudged up the price of FiOS broadband, especially for customers who refuse to sign up for long term contracts or add additional bundled services. Standalone broadband service jumped $5 in many markets last fall, while double and triple play bundles have consistently increased anywhere from $5 to $20 since FiOS was launched (depending on the product market).

For instance, users who bundle Verizon phone, FiOS 5Mbps/2Mbps and FiOS TV Premier (with two-year commitment) have seen that price increase from $104.98 to $115.98 in many markets. Users who bundle the company's 5Mbps/2Mbps FiOS service and FiOS TV Premier have seen the double play bundle price rise from $85.98 to $101.97 in many markets. The FiOS 20Mbps/20Mbps + FiOS TV Premier bundle has jumped from $107.98 to $123.97.

Given that most of their cable competitors continue to raise rates, Verizon has also found they've been able to raise TV rates in kind (as much as 12% in some instances). Last year alone, Verizon increased FiOSTV prices by 7%, added a new $75 disconnect fee, and bumped the price for their high-definition DVR rental from $12.99 to $15.99 per month in many markets."

Yes that Power is becoming increasingly evident -


Verizon Raising FiOS Prices Again Soon
Sometime this quarter by an unspecified amount...
01:45PM Monday Apr 28 2008 by Karl
tags: prices · Fiber · business · telco · Verizon FIOS

Discussing this morning's earnings, Verizon CFO Doreen Toben told investors, analysts and reporters on a conference call today that FiOS users can expect a new round of price hikes this quarter. "You may recall we increased prices for selected products in the first quarter last year," said Toben while discussing FiOS (see transcript (pdf)). "We anticipate increasing prices once again in certain products and bundles in the second quarter this year." Which FiOS products and bundles was not specified.

Verizon has consistently nudged up the price of FiOS broadband, especially for customers who refuse to sign up for long term contracts or add additional bundled services. Standalone broadband service jumped $5 in many markets last fall, while double and triple play bundles have consistently increased anywhere from $5 to $20 since FiOS was launched (depending on the product market).

For instance, users who bundle Verizon phone, FiOS 5Mbps/2Mbps and FiOS TV Premier (with two-year commitment) have seen that price increase from $104.98 to $115.98 in many markets. Users who bundle the company's 5Mbps/2Mbps FiOS service and FiOS TV Premier have seen the double play bundle price rise from $85.98 to $101.97 in many markets. The FiOS 20Mbps/20Mbps + FiOS TV Premier bundle has jumped from $107.98 to $123.97.

Given that most of their cable competitors continue to raise rates, Verizon has also found they've been able to raise TV rates in kind (as much as 12% in some instances). Last year alone, Verizon increased FiOSTV prices by 7%, added a new $75 disconnect fee, and bumped the price for their high-definition DVR rental from $12.99 to $15.99 per month in many markets.

Gary, it would be very helpful if you could use the quote function provided. It is difficult to see in your post where the quoted article ends and your commentary begins.

I still don't understand why you keep saying this:

SAV would still require a box
You must have missed what I said earlier: "So a box is required, it might just as well be digital - which takes 1/12 the bandwidth of analog." So there is NO advantage for ANYONE for them to do something like SAV.
(Could be the reason why something like that has not been commercialized)
If it is "tru2way" AND your cable system supports that (they might not right off) - YES.

BTW: It is not the cablecard that is 2way (they all support 2way) it is the TV (or STB).

Yes, SAV would still require a box. I guess I am simply not sympathetic to the idea that cable is continuing analog even for non-locals. This whole business has been years in the making. An inexpensive box similar to the one for over the air could have been made available during that time.

In other words, all signals sent to subscribers could be in digital format. The signals could have been transferred to analog by either the box the subscriber has always rented or by an inexpensive box designed to do the same thing that the over the air box does for over the air customers.

I saw cable executives testifying a couple of years ago on CSPAN and they became cable heroes to the "cable common man" by saying that THEIR customers would NOT experience any loss of service thanks to cable "technology" (switching local digital signals to analog at the headend ---- truly a miracle of technology). What they were really doing in my mind was saving the cost of making a complete switchover to digital. Obviously, the switch to digital is only mandated for over the air, but cable could have done it for their customers and nobody would have objected. Few would have objected if they had been required to participate in the cost to the same extent as the "strictly over the air" customer.

The path that cable has chosen would seem to be slow and painful.

Yes, I am referring to tru2way and, yes, it is the set not the card that would provide 2 way.

Yes that Power is becoming increasingly evident -
[end of commentary, begin quoted article]

For instance, users who bundle Verizon phone, FiOS 5Mbps/2Mbps and FiOS TV Premier (with two-year commitment) have seen that price increase from $104.98 to $115.98 in many markets. Users who bundle the company's 5Mbps/2Mbps FiOS service and FiOS TV Premier have seen the double play bundle price rise from $85.98 to $101.97 in many markets. The FiOS 20Mbps/20Mbps + FiOS TV Premier bundle has jumped from $107.98 to $123.97.

I'm not sure if that's meant to denigrate FiOS or not, but all I see is a bill that's $40 cheaper a month for more HD channels and broadband that's 4 times as a fast.

I'm currently paying $110 just for digital, DVR, HBO and Encore. That doesn't include the $40 for broadband.

If FiOS want to install down here they can charge me exactly the same as cable for all I care. I know that I'll be getting three times as many HD channels and not have to use the Navigator guide TWC thrust upon us.

Currently in Staten Island, we have the following HD channels:

A&E HD *
ABC Family HD
Animal Planet HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD *
Disney HD
ESPN HD *
ESPN2 HD *
ESPN NEWS HD
Food Network HD *
Fox Business News HD
Fox News HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
HD Theater
HGTV HD *
History Channel HD *
The Learning Channel HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
Music: High Definition
MSG HD
MSG+ HD
National Geographic HD
NY1 HD
Planet Green HD (Launching June 11th, 2008)
Science Channel HD
SportsNet New York HD (Get your New York sports here!!!)
TBS HD *
TLC HD
TNT HD *
Toon Disney HD
Travel Channel HD
Universal HD
Versus/Golf HD
WABC HD
WCBS HD
Weather Channel HD
WNBC HD
WNET - Thirteen HD
WNYW Fox HD
WPIX - CW HD
WWOR – My Network HD
YES HD



It's hard for me to comprehend the disparity between TW there and TW in Erie. I put an asterisk on the ones we currently get. Our RSN in HD is Sports Time Ohio.

I do get the locals in HD, but that's only because I split the cable signal into a QAM tuner. The only one we get in HD here through TW legitimately is Fox (but that's because our other locals are so crappy they aren't going HD yet).

Un-freaking-believable. I can't even watch the Penguins in HD until they go to NBC. Now TW almost has me rooting for my team to lose one game in their series so I can see them in HD once before the Stanley Cup Finals.

It's hard for me to comprehend the disparity between TW there and TW in Erie. I put an asterisk on the ones we currently get. Our RSN in HD is Sports Time Ohio.

I do get the locals in HD, but that's only because I split the cable signal into a QAM tuner. The only one we get in HD here through TW legitimately is Fox (but that's because our other locals are so crappy they aren't going HD yet).

Un-freaking-believable. I can't even watch the Penguins in HD until they go to NBC. Now TW almost has me rooting for my team to lose one game in their series so I can see them in HD once before the Stanley Cup Finals.
Well we have a lot of HD channels in S.I. because TWC did away with analog on S.I. Obviously SDV doesnt free up as much space as going digital did in S.I. I mean, TWC launched 12 HD channels on S.I. in one week last month. I believe that every division of TWC should have the same HD channels.
Good luck on that happening... :(

Well we have a lot of HD channels in S.I. because TWC did away with analog on S.I. Obviously SDV doesnt free up as much space as going digital did in S.I. I mean, TWC launched 12 HD channels on S.I. in one week last month. I believe that every division of TWC should have the same HD channels.
Good luck on that happening... :(As a past TWC customer and present Dish customer, I am thinking of going back to TWC, I am also in S.I., how is the quality of the HD channels, and what are you paying if I may ask a month for the whole package, does it include HBO, Cinemax, SHO, and is there any contracts that I have to sign like with the satellite companies, thanks.

Man, when you stop to think of all the money we are willing to spend on television viewing, internet browsing and cell phone chatting, one has to believe that Americans have plenty of spare dough to unload. How on earth are so many people able to afford all of this stuff? America ........... the land of plenty, I guess!

I received a flyer from TWC in the mail today.

Here in SoCal they are adding more HD channels soon.

I got that same flyer too, but I'm worried that this might be a harbinger for an upcoming introduction of SDV here in Orange County, to support that many new HD channels. Anyone have any insight on if that's due any time soon?

I just switched to TWC the other month and have 2 TiVo HDs, so naturally SDV will interfere with that until the CC USB adapter it out that will co-operate with SDV.

SWEET! I finally got the new HD channels last night!!!!!!!!!!!!! No sci-fi but at this point, I will take it. Very excited!

SWEET! I finally got the new HD channels last night!!!!!!!!!!!!! No sci-fi but at this point, I will take it. Very excited!

What are "the" new HD channels? and what market?

Time Warner is retarded and still only have a handful of HD channels. Freaking pisses me off.

SWEET! I finally got the new HD channels last night!!!!!!!!!!!!! No sci-fi but at this point, I will take it. Very excited!

Funny how the tone of the whiners can change.

I got that same flyer too, but I'm worried that this might be a harbinger for an upcoming introduction of SDV here in Orange County, to support that many new HD channels. Anyone have any insight on if that's due any time soon?
So Cal HD additions: Most sound like by August, rest by end of year. Don't think via SDV since not supported on most systems and won't be by then. My GUESS is some analog channel movement, but interested to know how they plan to do this also. /Dan

Does anyone know when more HD channels will be added in Charleston, SC area?? We don't have as many as alot of the other areas. Hopefully more will come soon. Please ignore that my profile says Connecticut. I am now living in South Carolina.

The first page in this thread is up to date.

And you have 30-some HD channels available which is more than average.

I hear Sci-Fi HD is launching in Hawaii....HAWAII? Why not here somewhere in the lower 48?

As a past TWC customer and present Dish customer, I am thinking of going back to TWC, I am also in S.I., how is the quality of the HD channels, and what are you paying if I may ask a month for the whole package, does it include HBO, Cinemax, SHO, and is there any contracts that I have to sign like with the satellite companies, thanks.
The quality of HD channels here in S.I. is amazing. No blocking up, pixelizing, none of that. Don't know if it has to do with the 32" Toshiba 1080p HDTV I am using, but either way the quality is amazing on the HD channels on all the HDTVs in my house. I pay about $120.00 a month (yikes!) but for $120.00 a month I have 1 DVR, DVR service, 2 Regular cable boxes, HBO, Digital Sports Tier, 42/51 HD channels offered (some are included with movie packages), DTValue, about 350 channels, including music channels and HD channels, about 30 on demand channels, including HD Movies on Demand, and thats about it. None of the movie channels are included, i subscribe to HBO. When I signed up for TWC i got HBO and CineMax free for a month. Don't know if they still do that.

Funny how the tone of the whiners can change.

I still think Time Warner is retarded. We still only have a handful of HD channels compared to satellite systems. It also took them 3 months to roll out these additional channels, and 1 month after the promise date. And when I called this month (May) and asked when they would come out, their operators are so stupid she said April (must of been reading from a scripted response). Pathetic.

I am, however, excited to at least get some new HD channels. Heck I would do flips if they added a few more. However, Time Warner still sucks in the HD market, but I can still be happy about getting some new channels. My feelings about Time Warner hasn't changed, they are seriously lacking. Since I use them, I can get excited about new channels while still thinking as a whole, they are retarded.

What are "the" new HD channels? and what market?

NE Ohio.

Sportstime Ohio
Cavaliers HD
HD Sports
A&E HD
HGTV HD
Food HD
History HD

I hear Sci-Fi HD is launching in Hawaii....HAWAII? Why not here somewhere in the lower 48?

That rumor has been around for ever and we still haven't seen it. Our local guy said that as soon as we see it anywhere on TWC we will get it very shortly here too (Austin).

xnappo

I'm removing those NBC Universal channels now as well as the Rainbow channels, putting back to negotiating as their has been no word since January.

Andy, you should probably remove SpeedHD from Rochester's (NY) future line-up. It looks as though it's not going to happen here. :(

Not being picky here. But, Time Warner isn't in Charleston, SC. Charleston has Comcast and Knology.

Andy, you should probably remove SpeedHD from Rochester's (NY) future line-up. It looks as though it's not going to happen here. :(

Yeah I guess they changed their mind. I'll give it till the end of the month before I remove it.

Might be a bit off topic but, the HD boxes from TWC output 1080i, so if i use a 1080p tv will the tv upscale the 1080i picture to 1080p?

Might be a bit off topic but, the HD boxes from TWC output 1080i, so if i use a 1080p tv will the tv upscale the 1080i picture to 1080p?YES

I hear Sci-Fi HD is launching in Hawaii....HAWAII? Why not here somewhere in the lower 48?

Small bone that if true ... Hawaii has so few HD channels ... that almost anything in HD would be watched for novelty sake. OTA - a handfull, TWC - a few more ... Dish? I've heard that it has a fair amount (but still far short of most other areas) ... and worst of all NO VERIZON FIOS :(

Small bone that if true ... Hawaii has so few HD channels ... that almost anything in HD would be watched for novelty sake. OTA - a handfull, TWC - a few more ... Dish? I've heard that it has a fair amount (but still far short of most other areas) ... and worst of all NO VERIZON FIOS :(
TWC is doing pretty well in Hawaii, HD-wise, so I hear. But I get a full complement of HD channels from DirecTV, here on the east side of Oahu.

Erased, sorry fellas.

You quoted that entire thing to repeat the first line? :confused:

No NFL Network here in Staten Island.

......

That whole first section is existing HD networks NOT available on TWC (but currently under 'possible negotiations')

Im pretty sure SDV hasnt been deployed in Raleigh. We just had Navigator pushed to the boxes in the past couple of weeks (sucks), and the HD lineup is easily one of the poorest in the country.

Im pretty sure SDV hasnt been deployed in Raleigh. We just had Navigator pushed to the boxes in the past couple of weeks (sucks), and the HD lineup is easily one of the poorest in the country.

It's been deployed and is in place, just isn't being used yet. Maybe after the navigator roll out is complete in mid-June.

just isn't being used yet. Maybe after the navigator roll out is complete in mid-June.

Are you sure your not getting SDV? I am over in Wilmington, NC and Food-HD, HGTV-HD & NatGeo-HD were the first SDV channels deployed in our market months ago. I would assume that is the same for you guys since you have basically the same channel lineup as us on the coast.

Im pretty sure SDV hasnt been deployed in Raleigh. We just had Navigator pushed to the boxes in the past couple of weeks (sucks), and the HD lineup is easily one of the poorest in the country.

Same situation in Charlotte; we feel your pain. Says in the diagnostics that SDV has not been switched on yet. Counting the days. It's the only thing that will make the bitter taste of Navigator go down a little easier.

Well my bad then...I guess IMHO, deployed means its actually in use :). Oh well, doesnt matter to me...moving next Saturday, Dish installer coming on Sunday :).

NE Ohio.

Sportstime Ohio
Cavaliers HD
HD Sports
A&E HD
HGTV HD
Food HD
History HD

Oh and also The CW in HD.

Well TWC is rock solid for Cable modems arround here 8 Mb/sec down and 400 kb/sec is what I get all day every day. Now if FIOS was an option I would probably dump TWC in a heart beat. I would give anything for 2 mb/sec upstream. That is actually enough to stream 540p Hd content over. TWC will have to step it up when FIOS arrives here. That probably won't be for another 2 or 3 years though. You FIOS users are really lucky!
I have Fios and get 20MB download and 5MB upload ALL the time, it is dedicated to me, not shared like Cable Networks.

Has anyone noticed a drop in signal strength since Time Warner began packing more HD channels on their wire w/SDV?

My PRO-150FD w/CableCARD is reporting a 10% decline with its digital signal meter and nothing has changed from my end.
In the last 2 weeks there has been a significant drop in resolution with Time Warner Manhattan on my SONY 52XBR4 . I'm hoping it's my Samsung cable box - however, I suspect that because of the addition of a few more new HD channels, it's very coincidental that this is happening.

Time Warner is coming in in a couple of days. I'm not sure how they're going to resolve this.

In the last 2 weeks there has been a significant drop in resolution with Time Warner Manhattan on my SONY 52XBR4 . I'm hoping it's my Samsung cable box - however, I suspect that because of the addition of a few more new HD channels, it's very coincidental that this is happening.

Time Warner is coming in in a couple of days. I'm not sure how they're going to resolve this.
Interesting. Is that just from the appearance of HD images in general? Here, with NYC's TWC, they've had some HD sources at 3 per 6-MHz frequency slot for years. (Member Berk32 listed local allocations in a Excel spreadsheet (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=109206&d=1209621223).) It seems feasible that a significant change in rate shaping at a head end (with requantization (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8011489&&#post8011489)) might change overall effective resolution noticeably.

Measuring the maximum resolution from HDNet's test pattern (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7359152&&#post7359152) might aid diagnosis. Someone locally measured ~1335 lines (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8865051#post8865051) effective resolution with HDMI to a 1080p front projector. My long-time maximum reading has always been 1290 lines (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5175424#post5175424), using the technique outlined, with YPbPr to a 9"-gun RPTV. Many report readings at ~1300 lines, too, although a few have posted readings of ~1920X1080.

(HDNet seems to have again discontinued its test pattern scheduling recently; a recent calibration-forum post about the patterns mentions someone to write [sublinked] requesting starting them up again.)

Using HDNet test patterns for overall resolution requires assuming similar maximum effective resolutions apply to other cable/DBS channels. STB limitations, such as inadequate RAM, might play a role in addition to head end signal manipulations. -- John

In the last 2 weeks there has been a significant drop in resolution with Time Warner Manhattan on my SONY 52XBR4 . I'm hoping it's my Samsung cable box - however, I suspect that because of the addition of a few more new HD channels, it's very coincidental that this is happening.

Time Warner is coming in in a couple of days. I'm not sure how they're going to resolve this.

Same thing here in Dallas. For a while I was happy to see new channels added to the TWC HD lineup, now we have CNNHD and mahy others but...when I first watched transformers on cinemax we got TONS of pixelation- On every scene where there is lots of detail and fast movement we get pixelation. This is unnaceptable. A standard DVD gets better picture than at 480i than this supposedly 1080i signal. They are comming on friday but it's likely they are just wasting their time, still I will give them a chance before I move to FIOS.

Franke46

Time Warner to add MGM HD.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6562019.html?desc=topstory

Time Warner to add MGM HD.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6562019.html?desc=topstory
Well then. Let's add MGM HD to the other multitude of signed HD carriage deals TWC has in storage collecting dust in hopes of being seen on customer tv's in a couple years (sometime after 2011) if we're lucky. :D

Well then. Let's add MGM HD to the other multitude of signed HD carriage deals TWC has in storage collecting dust in hopes of being seen on customer tv's in a couple years (sometime after 2011) if we're lucky. :D

I agree with your sentiment. I get tired of seeing these press releases of Time Warner tooting their own horn about some new HD channel they've reached agreement with. I get tired of it because I know that I wont see ANY of these new HD channels in my area any time in the next 12 months...or more.


Bruce
Charlotte, NC

In kentucky we just got On Demand :( So by this take that leaves us 3 years out until we see any additions in HD channels.

Here in NYC, TWC has promissed 100 HD channels by the end of the year.
Some areas have a little over 50 now. Over the next 6 months I expect 50 more out of the 60 or so channels yet to be announced to be active in NYC for a 100 in total.
I don't see why other areas can't come close to that by years end.

Oh and also The CW in HD.

Can you please verify this? What is the channel # because I have not gotten this one yet. I also have TWC NEO.

I have been waiting for Spike HD for quite some time in this area. Anyone have any info on this to pass along?

Can you please verify this? What is the channel # because I have not gotten this one yet. I also have TWC NEO.

I have been waiting for Spike HD for quite some time in this area. Anyone have any info on this to pass along?

Positive. I just watched Smallville and Supernatural in HD last week. Freaking amazing looking (compared to the SD crapped I've had to watch for years with the CW).

I think my channel number is 407. I will have to verify when I get home though.

Here in NYC, TWC has promissed 100 HD channels by the end of the year.
Some areas have a little over 50 now. Over the next 6 months I expect 50 more out of the 60 or so channels yet to be announced to be active in NYC for a 100 in total.
I don't see why other areas can't come close to that by years end.

They need to be all on SDV, and that means they need to transition every Passport box to Navigator first.

They need to be all on SDV, and that means they need to transition every Passport box to Navigator first.

I didn't think you had to have Navigator for SDV to work. I have SDV and I believe I am running on Sara.

Originally Posted by VisionOn
They need to be all on SDV, and that means they need to transition every Passport box to Navigator first.I didn't think you had to have Navigator for SDV to work. I have SDV and I believe I am running on Sara.Yes, but their system uses Passport (not SARA) and the version of Passport that they have won't do SDV. TW COULD have purchased a version of Passport that would do SDV from Aptiv, but they chose to "do it themselves".

TW COULD have purchased a version of Passport that would do SDV from Aptiv, but they chose to "do it themselves".

Thus Saving Millions of dollars in the process! :)

I didn't think you had to have Navigator for SDV to work. I have SDV and I believe I am running on Sara.

Exactly as Dave said. So if anyone is in a Passport market and hasn't been Navigated yet, the possibilities of more HD are much further out than those on SARA or even those where Navigator updates have begun.

I've got two Passport boxes and only the DVR has just been updated. The other is still running Passport and as far as I know until that is changed over at some undisclosed point, they can't enable a full SDV operation here. So no free bandwidth for those 100 HD channels.

Here in NYC, TWC has promissed 100 HD channels by the end of the year.
Some areas have a little over 50 now. Over the next 6 months I expect 50 more out of the 60 or so channels yet to be announced to be active in NYC for a 100 in total.
I don't see why other areas can't come close to that by years end.

This is due to them shutting down analog service in those areas (or most analog service) over the lines, which means that they have to force everyone to give up their old analog converters so they can get any channels.

No SDV involved at this point.

This is due to them shutting down analog service in those areas (or most analog service) over the lines, which means that they have to force everyone to give up their old analog converters so they can get any channels.

No SDV involved at this point.

yeah i know, I meant to say that I don't see why other areas can't come close to 100 by years end with the addition of SDV in their particular division.

Can you please verify this? What is the channel # because I have not gotten this one yet. I also have TWC NEO.

I have been waiting for Spike HD for quite some time in this area. Anyone have any info on this to pass along?

Verified last night, my HD CW channel is 407.

Verified last night, my HD CW channel is 407.

You are correct. I verified this as well last night. Thank you.

Like I said in my previous post, I would really appreciate some information on SpikeHD in our area. I have searched all over the internet for info on this as well as contacted my local TW representatives and not gotten any answers. I have been lurking here for quite some time and find this site to be very informative. I would love to be able to watch UFC in HD as well as gametrailers tv and the misc. movies that they air as well.

Some other channels that I am waiting on are

Cartoon Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Chiller HD
Fuse HD

TWC here in Syracuse has added 9 new test channels, hinting toward future new HD additions. Last week, one of the test channels (tst4) was unlocked and showing Bio HD, though it was certainly a test channel, since left side of the picture was regular HD and the right was definitely compressed. It was showing 1080i, according to the Sara status, but I don't know why half of the picture was way more compressed than the other. Maybe some kind of a comparison technique. tst4 with bioHD is now gone, and there's tst8 through tst16 showing on the guide, but they're all locked. I'm really hoping that TWC is working on some new stuff behind the scenes.

On TWC in S.I., i have a channel called CC1. Its on channel 77. Its been there for ages. Its always a blank screen. It is also on ch. 1300 which is also always a blank screen. I also have CCamera 2 on ch. 1302 which has also been there for ages and also is a blank screen. What are these channels?

On TWC in S.I., i have a channel called CC1. Its on channel 77. Its been there for ages. Its always a blank screen. It is also on ch. 1300 which is also always a blank screen. I also have CCamera 2 on ch. 1302 which has also been there for ages and also is a blank screen. What are these channels?

This is a national TWC thread, most people have no clue what your talking about.
Ask your local questions here in the TWCNYC thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=513

On TWC in S.I., i have a channel called CC1. Its on channel 77. Its been there for ages. Its always a blank screen. It is also on ch. 1300 which is also always a blank screen. I also have CCamera 2 on ch. 1302 which has also been there for ages and also is a blank screen. What are these channels?

This is definitely not an national HDTV programming issue, but the quick answer just to end the discussion is, that in some large buildings in NYC, Time Warner agrees to include a channel that is programmed to show the building lobby (where people are buzzing to be let in), so that residents can see who is buzzing their intercom. It sounds like that may be what those channels were intended to be, but then building management never implemented or didn't maintain the cameras.

Some other channels that I am waiting on are

Cartoon Network HD...

I'm wondering how much Cartoon Network would benefit from HD treatment. most of their cartoons look great in Digital, but then again that's on a CRT HDTV.

I'm wondering how much Cartoon Network would benefit from HD treatment. most of their cartoons look great in Digital, but then again that's on a CRT HDTV.

This channel gets a lot of viewing in my house due to having a 6 year old son and a nerdy wife who loves Naruto. :p Although I don't know how much it would benefit the bulk of their programming, I do know that when watching other animated shows in HD, there is a significant difference in quality.

My assumptions were correct. Just this morning around 3:30AM TW in Syracuse, NY added Bio HD and National Geographic HD to the lineup.

I'm wondering how much Cartoon Network would benefit from HD treatment. most of their cartoons look great in Digital, but then again that's on a CRT HDTV.
I think cartoons gain a lot just going from 480i to 480p. Moving to 16:9 doesn't help them though.

Looks like SDV is about to hit Kansas City. I show 4 new channels that popup but not active yet.

When I go into Diag, the Switch Digital Video page says..
SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: State Ready
but
Primary Tuner State: Inactive

The channels are in a new range, 1800s. The names are..

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel

What does SDB stand for, switch digital broadcast? I'm disappointed there's no HD versions of Science, SciFi, TLC, Animal Planet and others. Tennis seems to be very special interest to waste HD bandwidth on. Does it have more mass appeal than the others?

I thought this was kind of interesting...

Time Warner Cable looks to bring internet content to TVs

by Darren Murph, posted May 30th 2008 at 3:59PM

Shortly after hearing TiVo's top dog speak of a "whole home model" to reduce the amount of STBs required for entertaining individuals in various rooms, along comes Time Warner Cable's chief executive talking up some innovation of its own. We'll be frank -- we're not entirely sure what Glenn Britt is getting at here, but through a broken series of quotes, we're led to believe that the carrier is prepping some "equipment" that will easily bring internet content to TVs. Not like there isn't a perfect solution for this quandary already, but we digress. Specifically, he mentions a " new wireless cable modem that will allow you to network everything in your house," which is about as broad / vague as you can get. Nevertheless, it's enough to keep us watchin', though we can't say our expectations are extraordinarily high. [Disclosure: Engadget is part of the Time Warner family]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/30/time-warner-cable-looks-to-bring-internet-content-to-tvs/

Looks like SDV is about to hit Kansas City. I show 4 new channels that popup but not active yet.

When I go into Diag, the Switch Digital Video page says..
SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: State Ready
but
Primary Tuner State: Inactive

The channels are in a new range, 1800s. The names are..

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel

What does SDB stand for, switch digital broadcast? I'm disappointed there's no HD versions of Science, SciFi, TLC, Animal Planet and others. Tennis seems to be very special interest to waste HD bandwidth on. Does it have more mass appeal than the others?

Update, TWC just added NHL NET, MoJo and NBA to the 'SDB' channel section in just an hour after posting above message. Looks like we should be getting a lot more HD channels soon.

I got a letter couple weeks ago and a phone call a couple days ago about persons being in the area working on the TWC lines. Neighbor talked a bit with the guy working yesterday. Lineman mentioned they were adding 1 Meg. I am assuming that is 1 Mb of capacity (1MHz of bandwidth is too small) so there should be room for 50+ channels in HD.

TWC had told me the HD channels they have been advertising would be going by Aug 1 with more by end of year. An LA Times article seems to say July 1. So, maybe we are getting close to some HD additions in the So Cal area.

/Dan

Perhaps he said they were upgrading for 1 GHz (vice 870 MHz) bandwidth....which would
be used by the soon to be deployed DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modems....with 4 QAM channel bonding.

I got a letter couple weeks ago and a phone call a couple days ago about persons being in the area working on the TWC lines. Neighbor talked a bit with the guy working yesterday. Lineman mentioned they were adding 1 Meg. I am assuming that is 1 Mb of capacity (1MHz of bandwidth is too small) so there should be room for 50+ channels in HD.

TWC had told me the HD channels they have been advertising would be going by Aug 1 with more by end of year. An LA Times article seems to say July 1. So, maybe we are getting close to some HD additions in the So Cal area.

/Dan

Will I ever see it in an Adelphia area with Moto boxes?

Looks like SDV is about to hit Kansas City. I show 4 new channels that popup but not active yet.

When I go into Diag, the Switch Digital Video page says..
SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: State Ready
but
Primary Tuner State: Inactive


Stupid question: how do you get into Diag, and where are you seeing this info? I would be curious to see what mine says here in Charlotte, NC.

Stupid question: how do you get into Diag, and where are you seeing this info? I would be curious to see what mine says here in Charlotte, NC.

For Scientific Atlanta boxes, using the remote, hold down the pause button until the Mail light on the box turns on, then press the Page Up button. Use Page Up and Page Down to see the various diagnostic screens. Press Exit to exit.

Page Down....vice Page Up.
Then cursor LEFT and RIGHT.

I've seen talk about a Turner Classic Movies HD being in the works though.Breaking news….

:rolleyes:Well… not really:rolleyes:

I finally got a response from Turner Classic Movies regarding HD.

Here is the question I sent over a month ago…

Is TCM available in Hi Definition via any providers?
If so, which ones?
If not, when?

Thank you.

The answer I just received…

Turner Classic Movies is exploring the possibility of broadcasting in high definition. Unfortunately, we have no timetable as when we might achieve this goal.

AP
Time Warner Cable tries metering Internet use

Monday June 2, 5:37 pm ET

By Peter Svensson, AP Technology Writer

Time Warner Cable starts customer trial with metered Internet access in Texas

NEW YORK (AP) -- You're used to paying extra if you use up your cell phone minutes, but will you be willing to pay extra if your home computer goes over its Internet allowance?
Time Warner Cable Inc. customers -- and, later, others -- may have to, if the company's test of metered Internet access is successful.
On Thursday, new Time Warner Cable Internet subscribers in Beaumont, Texas, will have monthly allowances for the amount of data they upload and download. Those who go over will be charged $1 per gigabyte, a Time Warner Cable executive told the Associated Press.
Metered billing is an attempt to deal fairly with Internet usage, which is very uneven among Time Warner Cable's subscribers, said Kevin Leddy, Time Warner Cable's executive vice president of advanced technology.
Just 5 percent of the company's subscribers take up half of the capacity on local cable lines, Leddy said. Other cable Internet service providers report a similar distribution.

"We think it's the fairest way to finance the needed investment in the infrastructure," Leddy said.

Metered usage is common overseas, and other U.S. cable providers are looking at ways to rein in heavy users. Most have download caps, but some keep the caps secret so as not to alarm the majority of users, who come nowhere close to the limits. Time Warner Cable appears to be the first major ISP to charge for going over the limit: Other companies warn, then suspend, those who go over.

Phone companies are less concerned about congestion and are unlikely to impose metered usage on DSL customers, because their networks are structured differently.

Time Warner Cable had said in January that it was planning to conduct the trial in Beaumont, but did not give any details. On Monday, Leddy said its tiers will range from $29.95 a month for relatively slow service at 768 kilobits per second and a 5-gigabyte monthly cap to $54.90 per month for fast downloads at 15 megabits per second and a 40-gigabyte cap. Those prices cover the Internet portion of subscription bundles that include video or phone services. Both downloads and uploads will count toward the monthly cap.

A possible stumbling block for Time Warner Cable is that customers have had little reason so far to pay attention to how much they download from the Internet, or know much traffic makes up a gigabyte. That uncertainty could scare off new subscribers.

Those who mainly do Web surfing or e-mail have little reason to pay attention to the traffic caps: a gigabyte is about 3,000 Web pages, or 15,000 e-mails without attachments. But those who download movies or TV shows will want to pay attention. A standard-definition movie can take up 1.5 gigabytes, and a high-definition movie can be 6 to 8 gigabytes.

Time Warner Cable subscribers will be able to check out their data consumption on a "gas gauge" on the company's Web page.
The company won't apply the gigabyte surcharges for the first two months. It has 90,000 customers in the trial area, but only new subscribers will be part of the trial.

Billing by the hour was common for dial-up service in the U.S. until AOL introduced an unlimited-usage plan in 1996. Flat-rate, unlimited-usage plans have been credited with encouraging consumer Internet use by making billing easy to understand.

"The metered Internet has been tried and tested and rejected by the consumers overwhelmingly since the days of AOL," information-technology consultant George Ou told the Federal Communications Commission at a hearing on ISP practices in April.

Metered billing could also put a crimp in the plans of services like Apple Inc.'s iTunes that use the Internet to deliver video. DVD-by-mail pioneer Netflix Inc. just launched a TV set-top box that receives an unlimited stream of Internet video for as little as $8.99 per month.

Comcast Corp., the country's largest cable company, has suggested that it may cap usage at 250 gigabytes per month. Bend Cable Communications in Bend, Ore., used to have multitier bandwidth allowances, like the ones Time Warner Cable will test, but it abandoned them in favor of an across-the-board 100-gigabyte cap. Bend charges $1.50 per extra gigabyte consumed in a month.

http://www.timewarnercable.com
http://www.bendcable.com

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080602/tec_time_warner_cable_internet.html?.v=4

if TWC meters my market I'll be switching to DSL the day after...

if TWC meters my market I'll be switching to DSL the day after...

I wonder how this would affect Earthlink over TWC?

Hopefully our market is competitive enough to keep this away - the bad thing will be if this starts a trend with all providers.

With things like Netflix 'Watch Now' service becoming more and more accessible, one could burn through 40GB in no time.

xnappo

One more example of the unlimited capacity of TWCs "advanced fiber network." :rolleyes:

You could also throw about conspiracy theories saying that TWC is intentionally trying to limit the usability of IP based movies and TV to force customers towards their own VOD offerings.

HD streaming would be effectively useless with a bandwidth cap.

if TWC meters my market I'll be switching to DSL the day after...

Agreed 100%.

if TWC meters my market I'll be switching to DSL the day after...

If you exceed the cap limit that is probably their intended result.

Even metered, high speed cable service will run circles around DSL....
Which, of course, will no doubt ALSO adopt capacity metering.....

So I was thinking about all this Road Runner metering bull sh!t and was wondering what the real agenda is behind it. TWC claims that it will serve the best interests of our customers to charge those who basically take up more bandwidth causing the network to slow down. The problem with all this, in my opinion, is that there is no problem at all! I have to say that Road Runner has great speed and reliability, even at peak times of the day. In my area, standard road runner is 7mbps (really about 5.5 mpbs but still fast though), which is where the issue starts with TWC. The faster their internet is, the more video on demand services become available with companies OTHER than TWC. Basically pig TWC wants me to buy their On Demand movies instead of buying movies from other internet options like the Vudu box, Netflix, or the Playstation network.

One more example of the unlimited capacity of TWCs "advanced fiber network." :rolleyes:

You could also throw about conspiracy theories saying that TWC is intentionally trying to limit the usability of IP based movies and TV to force customers towards their own VOD offerings.

HD streaming would be effectively useless with a bandwidth cap.

Yeah, i don't see a conspiracy theory. It's orchestrated. TWC is worried that as content moves to the web, they'll lose TV subs so they want to get that money back on overages charged for HD downloads from other services. Imagine paying for your XBL HD movie for $4, and then paying another $4 in overages just to download and watch it.

.... wondering what the real agenda is behind it. ...Everyone should pay attention to this metering expense and make their displeasure known now before it’s too late.

TW is setting up tollbooths by the beach in the middle of the winter when not too many are heading to the shore. When the hot weather kicks in and the traffic fills the roads people will pay and at it won’t be an issue.

Everyone should pay attention to this metering expense and make their displeasure known now before it’s too late.

TW is setting up tollbooths by the beach in the middle of the winter when not too many are heading to the shore. When the hot weather kicks in and the traffic fills the roads people will pay and at it won’t be an issue.

Well, hopefully we'll get access to FIOS before this takes effect.....

Well, hopefully we'll get access to FIOS before this takes effect.....

and they probably won't enforce caps in those regions. Choosing instead to screw over every market without a viable alternative.

Kind of like they do now for everything else.

and they probably won't enforce caps in those regions. Choosing instead to screw over every market without a viable alternative.

Kind of like they do now for everything else.

If that doesn't violate anti-trust laws, it should.

If you exceed the cap limit that is probably their intended result.


Yeah but I don't even come close I don't think at least...I just don't really feel like having to be a kilobyte horny clock watcher and get surprise overages because one month I used too much. I've got several internet devices at home - Xbox, Wii, 2 laptops not to mention the need to telecommute and I have no idea how much bandwidth it all uses Month to month nor do I or should I care...

In any case TWC Austin has added 4 test channels. Word in the local thread is Toon Diney HD, ABC Family HD, Disney HD, Hallmark Movie HD.

Yeah but I don't even come close ...
This is the issue—the majority of users don’t come close to this “cap” ….today.;)

This is the issue—the majority of users don’t come close to this “cap” ….today.;)

What exactly is the cap number?

I would argue that many of us DO come close to the cap, or exceed it. Think about some of the random activities we do online...purchase mp3s or movies from iTunes, transfer files from work, share photos online with friends & family, or downloading software from a variety of sources.

These activities DO add up. And I for one, will not stand for my provider instituting a cap on what I do online. When I can go to Sams Club and buy a 1 terabyte harddrive, its obvious that we are doing more things that require more HD space. Many of those 'things' are done online.

Cap me and i'm gone from TWC...and not just as my internet provider.

What exactly is the cap number?

I would argue that many of us DO come close to the cap, or exceed it. Think about some of the random activities we do online...purchase mp3s or movies from iTunes, transfer files from work, share photos online with friends & family, or downloading software from a variety of sources.

These activities DO add up.I have no idea what the cap is but regardless, I suspect that the majority of Internet users will be exceeding it…and soon. As far as arguing :) whether the majority of users currently come close or exceed—I don’t know. You are probably correct... definitely the folks here on AVS—these users are in that category but I don't know if the masses are there yet.

This is the issue—the majority of users don’t come close to this “cap” ….today.;)

Once downloading of HD movies becomes more prevalent, that will change. Not sure if anyone is even offering that yet because of the bandwidth situation. Why are we, as the country that invented all this stuff, so far behind the broadband curve?

What exactly is the cap number?


From this (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Caps-Behind-The-Numbers-95035) article. -


"My friend Om Malik, a long time industry journalist, would seem to agree. This morning he e-mailed me his piece dissecting the numbers behind the caps TWC is considering, which range from 5GB per month for their 768kbps tier, and 40GB per month for their 15Mbps tier."

Looks like SDV is about to hit Kansas City. I show 4 new channels that popup but not active yet.

When I go into Diag, the Switch Digital Video page says..
SDV Authorized: True
SDV Server Registration: State Ready
but
Primary Tuner State: Inactive

The channels are in a new range, 1800s. The names are..

SDB-Tennis
SDB-ESPN Classic
SDB-CSTV
SDB-Fuel

What does SDB stand for, switch digital broadcast? I'm disappointed there's no HD versions of Science, SciFi, TLC, Animal Planet and others. Tennis seems to be very special interest to waste HD bandwidth on. Does it have more mass appeal than the others?

TWC KC has officially started the first SDV channel - MHD (music HD). I've confirmed it's using SDV in the Diag screen. Am now able to view it. The others above haven't been activated yet.

TWC went down in S.I. around 1:30 in the morning. Anybody else in S.I. with this problem? TWC is back up, just curious who was affected by this.This is the national TW thread. You might want to check the local TW thread. ;) And yes, there have been reports of outages over the last 24 hours or so…
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=518

All of TWC-NYC had an outage of cable and internet. Anybody outside of NYC have an outage? I had no cable for 12 hours. Maybe it has to do with the heat we are having here in NYC?

I don't know if this has been posted, sorry if it has - has anyone else in Southern California (Orange County) disappointed in the HD offerings TWC has? Not counting premium channels (HBO, SHOW HD), I only have 12, 7 local channels, MHD, HD Theater, Universal HD, Mojo, and TNT HD.

Seeing that long list on the front page makes me wonder when we'll get access to those channels; in the 4 years I've had HD service TWC has only added 3 HD channels in my area.

I wonder when the San Diego North County Channels go to the non North County TWC subscribers? I really want food network HD. Maybe by July or August.

I don't know if this has been posted, sorry if it has - has anyone else in Southern California (Orange County) disappointed in the HD offerings TWC has? Not counting premium channels (HBO, SHOW HD), I only have 12, 7 local channels, MHD, HD Theater, Universal HD, Mojo, and TNT HD.

Seeing that long list on the front page makes me wonder when we'll get access to those channels; in the 4 years I've had HD service TWC has only added 3 HD channels in my area.
Im disappointed along with everyone else who has or stuck with TWC limited HD channels in the So Cal area. Heres a post from the TWC L.A. thread regarding the recent L.A. Times article about TWC fewer HD channels and possibly adding 12 new HD channels soon. I got their email newsletter last month notifying about more HD channels coming soon.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13952607#post13952607

I don't know if this has been posted, sorry if it has - has anyone else in Southern California (Orange County) disappointed in the HD offerings TWC has? Not counting premium channels (HBO, SHOW HD), I only have 12, 7 local channels, MHD, HD Theater, Universal HD, Mojo, and TNT HD.

Seeing that long list on the front page makes me wonder when we'll get access to those channels; in the 4 years I've had HD service TWC has only added 3 HD channels in my area.

Well, until last year you guys had Comcast, right? Over on DSLReports there were complaints for months after that, so I figure they were focusing on taking over and integrating the Comcast operations into TWC's way of running things. Now, with SDV coming on full force this year, HD channels will likely be well on their way.

Does anyone get or have HD pay per-view movies? I have the channel but when I tune to it, there are like 3 or 4 movies listed, none of them I have even remotely heard of. Curious if anyone has more information on this (will Time Warner be expanding this service soon)?

Does anyone get or have HD pay per-view movies? I have the channel but when I tune to it, there are like 3 or 4 movies listed, none of them I have even remotely heard of. Curious if anyone has more information on this (will Time Warner be expanding this service soon)?We've had HD ppv for some time (2-3 years) now. I don't use it much (Netflix/Blu-ray subscriber), but it seems to have a reasonable selection in HD.

Must be your local provider, here they have all kinds of current titles. I've only ever used it once - a couple weeks ago for Sweeney Todd.

Decent quality, but I was disappointed that it wasn't OAR and they don't tell you that before (or after) you pay for it. Luckily that movie was filmed at 1.85 (I believe) so not too much was cropped.

We've had HD ppv for some time (2-3 years) now. I don't use it much (Netflix/Blu-ray subscriber), but it seems to have a reasonable selection in HD.

I am getting a Blue-Ray player and thinking about Netflix. Do you find that they have a good selection To chose from?

Netflix & BB have a good selection To chose from.

We've had HD ppv for some time (2-3 years) now. I don't use it much (Netflix/Blu-ray subscriber), but it seems to have a reasonable selection in HD.

Crap, figures it would be my local provider, they sure lag behind the times. I just get more and more frustrated with Time Warner.

Time Warner Prepared For NYC Verizon Battle
Will Fight Back With Start Over, Price Lock
By Mike Farrell -- Multichannel News, 6/9/2008 2:51:00 PM
Time Warner Cable chief operating officer Landel Hobbs offered a little more insight into the MSO’s planned response to Verizon Communications’ encroachment into the New York City video market later this year, adding that the cable operator is prepared to fight back the threat with advanced services and innovative pricing plans.

Verizon already has about 1.2 million video customers across the country for its FiOS TV service and has said it plans to launch the product in the nation’s biggest TV market, New York City, in the third quarter. New York City is Time Warner Cable’s second-largest system (after Los Angeles), with about 1.4 million customers.

Verizon has said that it hopes to start offering FiOS later this year in all five boroughs of New York, including four controlled by Time Warner Cable—Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan. Cablevision Systems is the incumbent cable operator in the Bronx.

Hobbs (pictured), speaking at the Deutsche Bank Media & Telecommunications conference Monday, said Time Warner Cable is prepared, readying its plant—it is already all-digital in Staten Island, Brooklyn and Queens and will be all-digital in Manhattan by the end of the year—for additional HDTV channels and its Start Over service. Hobbs said that TWC will nearly double its HDTV capacity in New York from 55 channels to about 100 channels by the end of the year. Its popular Start Over service should be available by then as well.

Hobbs also said that TWC has been rolling out a “price-lock guarantee” package which enables customers to lock in a set price for video, voice and data service if they agree to a two-year contract.

“HD in vast numbers, Start Over will be launched in Manhattan before year end, price-lock guarantee throughout the entire market, scouring the market ahead of anybody before the competition moves in,” Hobbs said at the conference. “That’s what we do in every area, whether it be AT&T or Verizon. That’s how we can compete. We’re very effective in getting out ahead of folks and implementing some of these things that, for us, have been proven effective.”

Hobbs pointed to the cable industry’s and TWC’s success in the high-speed data market against telcos like Verizon. He said nationwide cable has a 53% share of the broadband market (Time Warner share in its footprint is about 56%, he said), while digital subscriber line service from telephone companies has declined.

“FiOS is cannibalizing itself,” Hobbs said.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6568511.html?desc=topstory

TWC in KC now has two SDV channels up and running, MHD and Food Network (confirmed they are SDV in Diag screen) - with HGTV appearing but not active yet. Some have mentioned that changing between SDV channels is slower. I'm not noticing any slowness at all, no different than time to change non SDV HD channels.

Am hoping for a blast of 50+ HD channels soon. KC currently has 30 regular HD channels plus the 2 SDV HD.

Speaking of TWC vs FIOS just above, this local forum post (//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14059884&postcount=15560) earlier today outlines HDNet's summer test pattern schedule and how it might be applied for comparisons. -- John

Time Warner Prepared For NYC Verizon Battle
Will Fight Back With Start Over, Price Lock
By Mike Farrell -- Multichannel News, 6/9/2008 2:51:00 PM

Hobbs pointed to the cable industry’s and TWC’s success in the high-speed data market against telcos like Verizon. He said nationwide cable has a 53% share of the broadband market (Time Warner share in its footprint is about 56%, he said), while digital subscriber line service from telephone companies has declined.

“FiOS is cannibalizing itself,” Hobbs said.


Ha. Whatever Mr Hobbs.

As someone else pointed out in our local thread, NC now has competition from a city based FTTP service ( http://www.greenlightnc.com/ ) which offers better internet (from 10Mb up and down to 100Mb up and down) and more local and national HD channels (35 to TWCs 28) in our market.

And did I mention it was also cheaper? Not a surprise.

Wilson, N.C. — Wilson residents began signing up for community-provided internet, cable and phone service Tuesday.

Over the past few years, the city has installed hundreds of miles of fiber-optic lines to create a network that competes with Time Warner.
...

http://www.wral.com/news/local/noteworthy/story/3022343/

It seems everyone is trying to get out of TWCs stagnating clutches.

Planet Green HD launched today in S.I., which brings our total to 52 HD channels. :D

100Mb up and down

$299.95 :eek:

Some have mentioned that changing between SDV channels is slower. I'm not noticing any slowness at all, no different than time to change non SDV HD channels.I think that was DUMB CONJECTURE by some folks who confused SDV with "On Demand". Because some elements of the technologies used are same, some incorrectly assumed that ALL characteristics would be the same. As you found out, this is not so. We have 25 or so SDV HD channels here now, and (as you found) there is NO difference in switching times.

Wilson, N.C. — Wilson residents began signing up for community-provided internet, cable and phone service Tuesday.

It seems everyone is trying to get out of TWCs stagnating clutches.

Salisbury, NC is also planning a municipal fiber cable/internet/telephone service modeled after the system in Wilson. They are about 12-18 mos. behind Wilson.
Anyone know how TWC has responded in Wilson. Have they upgraded their service or lowered prices? Or have they chosen to just ignore this like they ignore their customer's pleas for more HD programming?

Anyone know how TWC has responded in Wilson. Have they upgraded their service or lowered prices? Or have they chosen to just ignore this like they ignore their customer's pleas for more HD programming?

TWC is very much aware of this and not ignoring it. If you look at some of the other stories about this on WRAL, TWC has started calling customers and
offering to take $20 off their monthly bill if they sign a 2 year contract. TWC says this offer applies anywhere but someone in Raleigh tried to called and get the same offer but was told that customer service knew nothing of the offer. Haven't added any new channels yet.

Time Warner Cable will no longer offer internet newsgroups beginning later this month.

Thread Title - More news about HD on Time Warner Cable.

TWC KC just added HGTV to the SDV section. We now have 33 HD channels, 30 regular HD and now 3 SDV HD (HGTV, MHD and FoodHD).

Now if they would just add the other Discovery HD channels, I'd be happy. It looks like 6 sports channels are next though as they are showing up as 'ghost' channels in the Favorite setup, though aren't active yet.

Time Warner Cable will no longer offer internet newsgroups beginning later this month.But you didn't tell the whole story. This is being done to stop child pornography (per settlement with the New York State Attorney General (http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/june/june10a_08.html)).

But you didn't tell the whole story. This is being done to stop child pornography (per settlement with the New York State Attorney General (http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/june/june10a_08.html)).

As always, punish everyone because of a few bad apples.... for the children!!!

But you didn't tell the whole story. This is being done to stop child pornography (per settlement with the New York State Attorney General (http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/june/june10a_08.html)).

The NY State AG speaks of child porn newsgroups and offending newsgroups, not all newsgroups. TWC in your link says "newsgroups" will be removed and that is what I saw on the TWC website. The website referred customers to several other sources to pick up newsgroups for a price. It appears that TWC is going beyond the requirement and we are losing a service that can be quite useful for virtually any subject matter that you can imagine.

Thread Title - More news about HD on Time Warner Cable.

This has long been a thread for bashing and complimenting (rarely) TWC with frequent references to their internet and telephone service. Obviously, however, HD is the focus of the conversation.

The NY State AG speaks of child porn newsgroups and offending newsgroups, not all newsgroups. TWC in your link says "newsgroups" will be removed and that is what I saw on the TWC website. The website referred customers to several other sources to pick up newsgroups for a price. It appears that TWC is going beyond the requirement and we are losing a service that can be quite useful for virtually any subject matter that you can imagine.So, this has what to do with HD on Time Warner Cable? Or is the prime purpose to bash TW with anything negative you can find? (I suspect so).

So, this has what to do with HD on Time Warner Cable? Or is the prime purpose to bash TW with anything negative you can find? (I suspect so).

Heavens to Betsey, NO! I do not bash Time Warner Cable at all. In fact, I am very happy with my TWC television and internet service. Here in Central Maine, TWC (formerly Adelphia) is just fine. Although I wish they would add Fox News HD (and MSNBC HD when available), I do not want TWC to add more HD channels than they can really handle. Service and picture with cablecard is great and I am content.

On the other hand, it hurts nobody to learn that TWC is eliminating the newsgroup service on the internet. Since it might be that it is unnecessary to remove the entire newsgroups service in order to eliminate the child porn element, TWC might even be persuaded to modify their announced course of action.

OK, now?

On the other hand, it hurts nobody to learn that TWC is eliminating the newsgroup service on the internet. Since it might be that it is unnecessary to remove the entire newsgroups service in order to eliminate the child porn element, TWC might even be persuaded to modify their announced course of action.

OK, now?

Have to agree here. While normally I would agree with Dave and others that this is OT for this thread - TWC is pretty quietly eliminating Newsgroups and it was helpful of you to publicize it here for those not paying particular attention.

Plus it is relevant because I get my CW in HD from Newsgroups since LIN is evil.

xnappo

Huh? Skimmed the linked document above and it suggests TWC, etc., isn't dropping all newsgroups, just the illegal ones. Seems remarkable they'd be carrying them to begin with! -- John

Huh? Skimmed the linked document above and it suggests TWC, etc., isn't dropping all newsgroups, just the illegal ones. Seems remarkable they'd be carrying them to begin with! -- John
Are any newsgroups "illegal"? I don't know what that means. The document is ambiguous in places about whether all newsgroups are proscribed or just certain ones. It's hard to see how the distribution of child pornography could be prevented by blocking only some binary newsgroups without blocking them all, since posting to newsgroups is uncontrolled.

Huh? Skimmed the linked document above and it suggests TWC, etc., isn't dropping all newsgroups, just the illegal ones. Seems remarkable they'd be carrying them to begin with! -- John

They are just going to revoke all access. IMHO this gave them an excuse.

Newsgroups Service Discontinuation


I cannot access Road Runner Newsgroups or download articles?
As of June 23, 2008, Road Runner will no longer offer Newsgroups, however users can subscribe on their own to third party News providers.

Why is Road Runner discontinuing their own Newsgroups service?
Due to low subscriber usage Road Runner has decided to discontinue Newsgroups service as of June 23, 2008.

If I still want a news service, what can I do?
Subscribers can choose to use a third party service and purchase on their own through that service. There are many providers with offerings, as an example here are several providers:

* Easynews
* Newshosting
* UsenetServer

When is the last day that Road Runner Newsgroups service will be available?
Newsgroups service will cease on June 23, 2008.

Are any newsgroups "illegal"? I don't know what that means.
Those dealing with child porn would be by law. Haven't researched this, but hard to see why they'd drop everything from HDTV to cooking, etc., etc. because of a few nut-case groups. Used to follow the tech groups but haven't in a while. If they're accessible elsewhere via computer, without added charges, couldn't care about RR that much. If they can block exotic worms and viruses from their routers, a few newsgroups shouldn't be impossible. -- John

Those dealing with child porn would be by law. Haven't researched this, but hard to see why they'd drop everything from HDTV to cooking, etc., etc. because of a few nut-case groups.
I doubt there is such a law. A law against posting child porn, yes. A law against having a newsgroup "dealing with child porn", no. How could it be interpreted? You probably read in the article that they identified bad newsgroups by searching them for bad postings with certain hash values. But as I just pointed out, anybody can post anything in any newsgroup, except for a few moderated groups. And the creation of new newsgroups is also uncontrolled.

It's an old problem of censorship. Once you get started on it, it's hard to know where to stop.

I doubt there is such a law. A law against posting child porn, yes. A law against having a newsgroup "dealing with child porn", no.
Obviously. And the reason I didn't make the distinction. Yes, there is a federal law. This topic is straying too far from HD IMO. -- John

Hey guys, live in eastern North Carolina, Goldsboro to be exact and about 50 miles from Raliegh. Anyways I am wondering where I can find info on upcoming HD channels in my area. In the past year they have only added 3 or 4 channels and several of them the audio breaks up every 5-10 secs and it makes the channel unwatchable. The only channels that are even watchable are ESPNHD ESPN2HD and HD Theater. I would really like to see the Discovery HD package and the Weather ChannelHD as well. Here is my current line up, I just want to know when I could expect some new stuff... BTW we recently got the "mystro" system update...

Current Line Up

High Definition
201 UNC (PBS) HD
211 WTVD (ABC) HD
217 WNCN (NBC) HD
222 WLFL (CW) HD
228 WRDC (MyNetwork) HD
250 WRAZ (FOX) HD
255 WRAL (CBS) HD
277 HGTV HD
278 Food Network HD
279 National Geographic HD
280 HD Theater
281 TNT HD
282 TBS in HD
283 Versus/Golf Channel HD
284 A&E High Definition
285 HBO East High Definition
286 Showtime High Definition
289 ESPN2 High Definition
290 ESPN-HD
292 Music: High Definition
298 HD Showcase On Demand
299 Movies on Demand HD
411 HBO HD
451 Showtime High Definition
502 Movies on Demand HD
558 HD Showcase On Demand
HD Suite
291 MOJO
293 HD Net
294 HDNET Movies
295 Universal HD

Thanks!!!

FINALLY, back to HD!:)

Hey guys, live in eastern North Carolina, Goldsboro to be exact and about 50 miles from Raliegh. Anyways I am wondering where I can find info on upcoming HD channels in my area.

You're reading it!

You can read the local thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=147473) as well but it doesn't make a big difference. The information will go to both places somehow.

Hey nolimit06 I am in Goldsboro too but don't have the audio breakups that you do. Only thing that bothers me is the NBC 17.1 with the sound levels so low and some artifacting.

I too would like the additions that you mentioned. I wonder when we'll get SDV?

Did TWC in Charlotte remove Discovery HD? I could've swore I had this channel not too long ago. It's not listed on TW's channel lineup on their website, but I can't find anything saying they dropped it. They talk about it on the website, but nothing else.

TIA!

I guess I need to switch out my box, but I think I am limited because I also have DVR. And I do thing that we have the SDV here but who knows when we will get more HD. I have actually contacted them via the live chat and they told me they have no plans to expand their HD selection. Well I have to say is they need to get their act together or they will lose another customer to DirecTV/Dish Network...:mad:

I've got the 8300HDC dvr box. I did have the 8300HD box and did have some audio troubles and noticed them a lot on CBS during football games. It was quite annoying.
I have checked the diag page and it still says SDV not authorized.

Did TWC in Charlotte remove Discovery HD? I could've swore I had this channel not too long ago. It's not listed on TW's channel lineup on their website, but I can't find anything saying they dropped it. They talk about it on the website, but nothing else.

TIA!

They changed their name to HD Theater.

TWC KC just added HGTV to the SDV section. We now have 33 HD channels, 30 regular HD and now 3 SDV HD (HGTV, MHD and FoodHD).

Now if they would just add the other Discovery HD channels, I'd be happy. It looks like 6 sports channels are next though as they are showing up as 'ghost' channels in the Favorite setup, though aren't active yet.

TWC-KC has added Discovery HD to the SDV section, this is in addition to Disc HD Theatre that has been around a while. Hope that means HD Animal PLanet, Science and TLC are coming soon.

KC now has 34 HD Channels, 30 non-SDV and 4 SDV HD. There are 6 sports channels that show up in the Favorite setup listing but are not active yet.

Oh ok Hiatt, was not sure. Anyway I think we are going to DirecTV here shortly, 100x better HD selection and for everything plus Nascar Hotpass were gonna be paying $55/month. So we will see what happens...

I've been thinking about switching to satellite but now that TWC is rolling out SDV, they can technically have 500+ HD channels. And no issues with weather. I would hope TWC could rollout all channels they have negotiations with by the end of the year. TWC does need to compete on price though and get MPEG4 boxes out the door.

wow very interesting there. I'm about 2weeks away from moving into my newly purchased home and I was dead set on keeping the TWC roadrunner and dropping the cable to go with Direct TV as the price after discounts will be about the same maybe roughly $10 more a month and even so will include many more channels.
The HD channel capacity was my main reason for wanting to switch along with TWC always being so slow to roll things out on the HD side esp. lately, and also the numerous issues TWC runs into.

I'm in the Raleigh, NC area but have not herd much of anything from TWC about more HD channels in the near future, where DTV is pushing over 100 by year end evidently.

The one thing that also pulls me into TWC some is the fact that Cisco bought SA awhile back and at the last CES they had their 8550HDC box that supported mpeg-4 and a bunch other stuff.
http://ces.cnet.com/1606-13855_1-6826149.html

Tough decision for me. If I knew for a fact twc was rolling out all the new hd channels that dtv has like speedhd and cnbchd...id prolly stay with them but twc is always so quiet on things you never know what the hell they are going to do till about a month away.

PLease forgive me if I'm in the wrong section but I'm looking for some info and can't seem to find it....If this is in the wrong section, Please point me in the right direction. :)

Does anyone know when or if Spike HD will be coming to TWC Northeast Ohio? If not soon, Which other cable carrier already provides it. I have had my HD television for over a year and patiently awaiting this channel. :mad: I can't seem to get an answer from anyone I contact through TWC-NE OHIO

I'm in the Raleigh, NC area but have not herd much of anything from TWC about more HD channels in the near future, where DTV is pushing over 100 by year end evidently.Albany Time Warner, serving the Upstate NY region, has also stopped adding new HD channels during the past couple of months. This cable provider currently has ~30 HD channels (not counting PPV or the not-so-premium HD movie channels).

Besides producing some very misleading commercials regarding TWs CATV service versus the competition, does Time Warner have plans to add additional HD channels anytime soon?

PLease forgive me if I'm in the wrong section but I'm looking for some info and can't seem to find it....If this is in the wrong section, Please point me in the right direction. :)

Does anyone know when or if Spike HD will be coming to TWC Northeast Ohio? If not soon, Which other cable carrier already provides it. I have had my HD television for over a year and patiently awaiting this channel. :mad: I can't seem to get an answer from anyone I contact through TWC-NE OHIO

I dont know of any other cable provider that offers Spike-HD. I know DirecTV does.

take a look at the 1st post of this thread to find out what other HD channels TWC has the rights to add.

I dont know of any other cable provider that offers Spike-HD. I know DirecTV does.

take a look at the 1st post of this thread to find out what other HD channels TWC has the rights to add.

Speaking of which - you should probably add AMC to the 'HD Showcase Content'. They have had both 'Mad Men' and 'Breaking Bad' on there. Unless you keep that updated with currently running shows?

xnappo

Speaking of which - you should probably add AMC to the 'HD Showcase Content'. They have had both 'Mad Men' and 'Breaking Bad' on there. Unless you keep that updated with currently running shows?

xnappo

I guess i can add it, didn't even know about it.

Andy, you move Fuel and Tennis channel as known negotiations. TWC has added it to our SDV channel section. It's not active yet but it does show up.

Andy, you move Fuel and Tennis channel as known negotiations. TWC has added it to our SDV channel section. It's not active yet but it does show up.

if your positive it's the HD versions I will move them to the known deals done section.

Sorry if I can't have any sympathy for those that have 30, 50 or more HD channels, from TW. Here in Palm Desert, we still have the same old 11 HD channels, with just a vague promise (that is years old), of more coming soon. I wonder how many more years is "soon".

Andy, you move Fuel and Tennis channel as known negotiations. TWC has added it to our SDV channel section. It's not active yet but it does show up.

They might just be moving the SD versions to SDV.

They might just be moving the SD versions to SDV.

Analog on Switched Digital Video? A neat trick.

Sorry if I can't have any sympathy for those that have 30, 50 or more HD channels, from TW. Here in Palm Desert, we still have the same old 11 HD channels, with just a vague promise (that is years old), of more coming soon. I wonder how many more years is "soon".

I feel your pain. I complained via e-mail a couple weeks back and got a call from them. They explained that, because there are a lot of older people in our area and we are not in a major market (NY, etc), they didn't think HD was that big of a deal for their customers. But he was going to pass along my concerns. :mad:

I hope FiOS TV service hits our area soon...

Cheers!

Analog on Switched Digital Video? A neat trick.

The digital tier is full of SD stations which are sent digitally... SD != Analog.

It's a possibility that they're moving SD stations to SDV, but it seems pretty pointless. If they want to free up bandwidth, they should move all HD stations to SDV first, and then work on moving the rest of the digital tier to SDV.

The digital tier is full of SD stations which are sent digitally... SD != Analog.

It's a possibility that they're moving SD stations to SDV, but it seems pretty pointless. If they want to free up bandwidth, they should move all HD stations to SDV first, and then work on moving the rest of the digital tier to SDV.

You are going to have a lot more viewership of the HD channels though, vs. the sports tier, spanish tier, etc.

You are going to have a lot more viewership of the HD channels though, vs. the sports tier, spanish tier, etc.

Exactly. They have to be careful of which channels they select to put on SDV. This is a good article:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6454447.html

xnappo

The digital tier is full of SD stations which are sent digitally... SD != Analog.


Forgot about them. I only subscribe to analog and HD.

Food Network HD
HGTV HD
CNN HD
History Channel HD
A&E HD
Golf/Vs HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
ESPNews HD
National Geographic HD

Socal HD users should expect these channels. No SciFi yet but 70 HD channels by next year. These channels should be expected in July. TWC is probably going to add a bunch more in San Diego non ex Adelphia sometime soon.

Food Network HD
HGTV HD
CNN HD
History Channel HD
A&E HD
Golf/Vs HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
ESPNews HD
National Geographic HD

Socal HD users should expect these channels.
Thanks for posting this. However, I'm not sure what you meant by SoCal. San Diego? OC? or Los Angeles? San Diego and OC have newer networks and are able to support some additional HD channels, Los Angeles is made up of a tangled web of older networks as well as many many disparate head ends, each of which decides whether new channels will be shown or not. San Diego already has SDV so there really is a good chance they'll see the above channels if they don't have them already. OC depends on city by city, but even then July is way optimistic, unless of course it's July 2009. TWC just doesn't move at those kinds of speeds in this part of the country. In Los Angeles, the probability of seeing all 12 of those channels are at best 10% to 20%, and by July .... :)

No SciFi yet but 70 HD channels by next year.

Sorry that just isn't going to happen. Period. :( As I posted in the local SoCal thread. In Los Angeles, specifically, it will take TWC at least a decade before that many channels become available. Anyone who says otherwise would have to provide hard physical evidence to the contrary. I mean we are talking about a frozen Hell with pigs flying in it while fat ladies are singing. There is just no way. San Diego and OC may, I reiterate may, see them sooner. But then again ....

These channels should be expected in July. TWC is probably going to add a bunch more in San Diego non ex Adelphia sometime soon.

Thanks for the post though.
Rudy

if your positive it's the HD versions I will move them to the known deals done section.

I've confirmed they are SDV channels in the Diag screen but I can't confirm if they are HD channels. They likely will be since one of the SDV inactive channels is called HD PPV.

There is also CSTV (College Sports), NBA and NHL that I can tune to, but it's not active yet either. Says it's not yet available.

Might hold off for a bit or check into it.

Thanks for posting this. However, I'm not sure what you meant by SoCal. San Diego? OC? or Los Angeles? San Diego and OC have newer networks and are able to support some additional HD channels, Los Angeles is made up of a tangled web of older networks as well as many many disparate head ends, each of which decides whether new channels will be shown or not. San Diego already has SDV so there really is a good chance they'll see the above channels if they don't have them already. OC depends on city by city, but even then July is way optimistic, unless of course it's July 2009. TWC just doesn't move at those kinds of speeds in this part of the country. In Los Angeles, the probability of seeing all 12 of those channels are at best 10% to 20%, and by July .... :)

Sorry that just isn't going to happen. Period. :( As I posted in the local SoCal thread. In Los Angeles, specifically, it will take TWC at least a decade before that many channels become available. Anyone who says otherwise would have to provide hard physical evidence to the contrary. I mean we are talking about a frozen Hell with pigs flying in it while fat ladies are singing. There is just no way. San Diego and OC may, I reiterate may, see them sooner. But then again ....


Thanks for the post though.
Rudy

I meant for SoCal is the non San Diego area. Orange County is probably what I meant. LA will probably get an upgraded network. Actually San Diego doesn't have SDV deployed yet. It's enabled but no channels are on SDV yet in San Diego.

You are going to have a lot more viewership of the HD channels though, vs. the sports tier, spanish tier, etc.

Exactly. They have to be careful of which channels they select to put on SDV. This is a good article:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6454447.html

xnappo

great article! I hadn't read that before.