I notice a lot of pixelation on WWE's Friday Night Smackdown on HD channel 711 whenever there is fast motion, blinking lights, or smoke/fog. In an attempt to blame this on Time Warner, I watched the local over-the-air CW 11.1 HD broadcast and the same pixelation was noticeable. (So, it's not TW's fault.)

On WWE's Wrestlemania XXIV blu-ray, however, there was no pixelation despite frequent fast motion, blinking lights and smoke/fog.

Good to know it isn't TWC's fault at least on that particular channel.

TWC San Diego shut off the NBC Olympic channels except Universal HD. They now mention that new HD channels are coming to Time Warner Cable which is nice. Those channels will likely be SDV since the olympic channels were SDV.

Guess TWC didn't make a deal with NBC Universal after all.

Guess TWC didn't make a deal with NBC Universal after all.

This morning USA HD and CNBC HD were still available. TWC North Texas had UNIVERSAL HD prior to the Olympics. The specialty channels just had a freeze-frame graphic saying "Thanks for watching. Tune in to the Closing Ceremony" blah blah blah, but the program guide lists them being as OFF-AIR.

Perhaps USA HD will be available for the duration of the US OPEN.

This morning USA HD and CNBC HD were still available. TWC North Texas had UNIVERSAL HD prior to the Olympics. The specialty channels just had a freeze-frame graphic saying "Thanks for watching. Tune in to the Closing Ceremony" blah blah blah, but the program guide lists them being as OFF-AIR.

Perhaps USA HD will be available for the duration of the US OPEN.

After reading your post, you got my hopes up that TWC would leave USA-HD on air. Unfortunately, I just went and checked and all the added Olympics channels are gone!

They still have them. I guess some of the channels will be a part of those HD channels. Plus they still have an area thats an ex adelphia that gets more HD than us. I guess they will add those and more on Tuesday or something like that.

Orange, CA began shutting off the Olympics channels on Sunday. The Soccer channel was dropped sunday morning and was returned to the TWC Channel that shows FSNHD and FSN Prime Ticket HD games.

The Basketball Channel was the next to leave, going back to being MojoHD. USA and CNBC hung around long enough for me to record the Law And Order:CI Season Finale, but they were gone by the time I got home from work.

They better get USA-HD back soon, the PQ on the still analog SD channel is awful.

Orange, CA began shutting off the Olympics channels on Sunday. The Soccer channel was dropped sunday morning and was returned to the TWC Channel that shows FSNHD and FSN Prime Ticket HD games.

The Basketball Channel was the next to leave, going back to being MojoHD. USA and CNBC hung around long enough for me to record the Law And Order:CI Season Finale, but they were gone by the time I got home from work.

They better get USA-HD back soon, the PQ on the still analog SD channel is awful.

FYI - if you are getting the channel on a digital cable box - the SD channel is most likely digital.... not analog.... very very few SD channels show up on digital cable boxes via an analog feed. (how your TWC region gets the feed to being with is another story - but I am referring to how they send it to you)

For example: TWC-Manhattan, the digital box only picks up 1 analog channel for its SD lineup (Channel 51 TVGuide) - why? no idea... there are about 70 analog channels being sent out, and the others all have digital counterparts (even TVGuide has a digital counterpart that's available on channel 157)

Bottom line - don't refer to all Standard Definition content as analog....

I suspect USA HD and CNBC HD will be gone by the time I get home. :(

FYI - if you are getting the channel on a digital cable box - the SD channel is most likely digital.... not analog.... very very few SD channels show up on digital cable boxes via an analog feed. (how your TWC region gets the feed to being with is another story - but I am referring to how they send it to you)

For example: TWC-Manhattan, the digital box only picks up 1 analog channel for its SD lineup (Channel 51 TVGuide) - why? no idea... there are about 70 analog channels being sent out, and the others all have digital counterparts (even TVGuide has a digital counterpart that's available on channel 157)

Bottom line - don't refer to all Standard Definition content as analog....

I'm not, I know the difference between digital and analog, and between standard def and analog. I lived in Anaheim prior to June, a former Adelphia city, now Time Warner, and every channel was digital on the box, and you could easily see the difference between the digital and analog feeds switching from the box to a straight cable.

Over here in Orange, there is no difference. Box and analog channels look the same. There are digital feeds in the clear for the locals, and it does look like at least some of them are being picked up by the box as opposed to analog. But not all the channels have been done here. And USA looks pretty bad, as is Sci-Fi. There is very noticable difference between the channels below 100 and those above.

Thats because they are using ADS. ADS is Digital simulcasting of the analog channels. ADS can allow all digital cable boxes which is nice.

Olympic HD channels are history on TWC San Diego.

FYI - if you are getting the channel on a digital cable box - the SD channel is most likely digital.... not analog.... very very few SD channels show up on digital cable boxes via an analog feed. (how your TWC region gets the feed to being with is another story - but I am referring to how they send it to you)

This is mostly in original TWC areas or other providers. Here on NE Ohio the "legacy" TWC systems in Akron and Canton do provide digital simulcasts of ALL channels. This began in 2006 and of now, there is not even one analog channel on the cable boxes. The community Access channel is also in digital now, which means we could start using the new digital-only boxes. However, in the Cleveland area and the other former Adelphia and Comcast areas, these channels are still analog, depending on the area. The Cleveland system sends out faux "digital" versions of the local channels. These appear to be upconverted from analog, as the CW station has ghosting and horizontal stripes in the picture(two things NOT supposed to be on digital). And it's not the network as the HD channel is flawless. In Akron, the cable channels are a crapshoot. I'm not sure whether they are digital source feeds converted to analog for non-STB viewers or analog source feeds converted to digital for STB viewers.

One thing I've noticed as the former analog and digital channels were mixed is the former analog channels have extra "black space" to the left of the screen(obviously seen when the channel banner is on screen). The digital channels are the same width as the 4:3 safe channel banner.

All the HD that was added here in Lewisville for the olympics are gone even USA and CNBC.

All the HD that was added here in Lewisville for the olympics are gone even USA and CNBC.

Channels still alive on TWC-NYC

CNBC HD and USA HD were gone when i woke up today. oddly enough, im still getting universal HD even though i dont subscribe to the tier that its included in. the basketball channel and soccer channel were taking up existing channels (MOJO HD and FSN HD) so theres no problem there. i still have FSN HD since its included in my tier but not MOJO HD.

Channels still alive on TWC-NYC

Update:

BasketballHD and SoccerHD were just removed from the lineup (along with the foreign language SD channels). However, as of now their signals are still being sent out with the same frozen images as yesterday (still active in same QAM/channel slots)

USAHD and CNBCHD remain for TWC NYC (perhaps they realize that NYers would really like to watch the US Open.. of course that doesn't explain why CNBCHD is still around... not that I'm complaining)

Update:

BasketballHD and SoccerHD were just removed from the lineup (along with the foreign language SD channels). However, as of now their signals are still being sent out with the same frozen images as yesterday (still active in same QAM/channel slots)

USAHD and CNBCHD remain for TWC NYC (perhaps they realize that NYers would really like to watch the US Open.. of course that doesn't explain why CNBCHD is still around... not that I'm complaining)

Just figured out why CNBCHD may still be around for a little while longer...

Next Monday it has live US Open coverage for a few hours (WWE Raw will air as usual and wont air on SciFi as it did tonight with a tape delay on USA later)

I called today to find out why they took away USA HD and CNBC HD, I figured they only gave them to us temporarily for the Olympics but it seemed silly to take them back. The lady told me they were going to be adding them back in on September 10th along with a bunch of other HD channels she listed off.

I called today to find out why they took away USA HD and CNBC HD, I figured they only gave them to us temporarily for the Olympics but it seemed silly to take them back. The lady told me they were going to be adding them back in on September 10th along with a bunch of other HD channels she listed off.

Where?

I am in San Fernando Valley, Southern California, but who knows the Customer Service lady could have been confused or just plain out lying to me. She had no idea what I was talking about at first but then started reading this long list of HD channels that they were supposedly rolling out on September 10th.

I am in San Fernando Valley, Southern California, but who knows the Customer Service lady could have been confused or just plain out lying to me. She had no idea what I was talking about at first but then started reading this long list of HD channels that they were supposedly rolling out on September 10th.

Does your area have SDV?

Big Ten Network to Appear on Time Warner Cable

By Jon Lafayette

The Big Ten Network reached a carriage agreement with Time Warner Cable that will put the channel on systems in Big Ten markets including Ohio and Wisconsin in time for the start of college football season.

The deal follows on the heels of Big Ten Network’s deal with Comcast, which had balked at carrying the network on its broadly viewed channel packages or paying the asking price of about $1 a subscriber.

Big Ten Network resisted be placed on sports tier, which are bought by few subscribers.
The stalemate lasted through all of the network’s first season of football and basketball games.

Other major cable operators took a similar position and most of the channel’s subscribers watched via satellite-TV. Some analysts said that battles with Big Ten Network and NFL Network were costing the cable operators subscribers.

After months of nasty advertising, Comcast and Big Ten network reached a deal in June that pays the network about 70 cents per subscriber in Big Ten states like Michigan, Illinois and Indiana, but allows the operator to put it on sports tiers outside those markets.

The network began appearing on Comcast systems earlier this month.

That deal was expected to establish guidelines for the network to set arrangements with other cable operators.

Time Warner Cable’s agreement with Big Ten Network covers both its standard and high-definition services, as well as video on demand.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/08/big_ten_network_to_appear_on_t.php

I am in San Fernando Valley, Southern California, but who knows the Customer Service lady could have been confused or just plain out lying to me. She had no idea what I was talking about at first but then started reading this long list of HD channels that they were supposedly rolling out on September 10th.

Well the lady must know something TWC is not advertising if you look at TWC web page they have a list of new channels being added in the So Cal and dates they are being added. Some Areas in Sept others in Oct.

The Channels are:

MyTV Channel 13 HD
ABC Family HD
Disney Channel HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD
Golf HD
Espn News
A&E HD
History HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
National Graphics HD

Those are the only channels listed as being added in So Cal.

TWC North Texas checking in. Both CNBC HD and USA HD are gone (as I expected). Looks like the last few episodes of BURN NOTICE will be back to standard def. :mad:

Well the lady must know something TWC is not advertising if you look at TWC web page they have a list of new channels being added in the So Cal and dates they are being added. Some Areas in Sept others in Oct.

The Channels are:

MyTV Channel 13 HD
ABC Family HD
Disney Channel HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD
Golf HD
Espn News
A&E HD
History HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
National Graphics HD

Those are the only channels listed as being added in So Cal.

Yea, those are all channels she listed off, those must be the ones she was talking about. I could have sworn she listed a few more though including the USA HD and CNBC HD that I was originally calling about. By the way, where on the website do they list the dates they are adding the new HD chanels in So Cal?

Well the lady must know something TWC is not advertising if you look at TWC web page they have a list of new channels being added in the So Cal and dates they are being added. Some Areas in Sept others in Oct.

The Channels are:

MyTV Channel 13 HD
ABC Family HD
Disney Channel HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD
Golf HD
Espn News
A&E HD
History HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
National Graphics HD

Those are the only channels listed as being added in So Cal.
Hmmm interesting. Two weeks ago they said November. Come to think of it, that may still be the case. They were supposed to have launched August 13th. :eek::)

Rudy

Yea, those are all channels she listed off, those must be the ones she was talking about. I could have sworn she listed a few more though including the USA HD and CNBC HD that I was originally calling about. By the way, where on the website do they list the dates they are adding the new HD chanels in So Cal?

Click on Programing then HD then you will see list of coming soon channels then followed by "Will be launching in Aug cities, Sept Cities and Oct Cities".

Topic title change.

I was scrolling through the program guide and saw SONS OF ANARCHY, a new show that premieres on FX next week being listed as HD and to my knowledge TWC does not offer FX HD in North Texas. Did anyone else also see this?

Well the lady must know something TWC is not advertising if you look at TWC web page they have a list of new channels being added in the So Cal and dates they are being added. Some Areas in Sept others in Oct.

The Channels are:

MyTV Channel 13 HD
ABC Family HD
Disney Channel HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
TLC HD
Golf HD
Espn News
A&E HD
History HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
National Graphics HD

Those are the only channels listed as being added in So Cal.
Many of us got those in August. Rest to follow over next 3 months in the So Cal area (not San Diego, they are different). /Dan

TWC North Texas checking in. Both CNBC HD and USA HD are gone (as I expected). Looks like the last few episodes of BURN NOTICE will be back to standard def. :mad:

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Burn Notice too. I never should have watched those few episodes in HD. I'ts going to be hard to go back to SD.

In an attempt to preemptively cut off any questions about this one in advance:

Yes, ESPNU HD launches on Thursday. It is known (or at least strongly believed) that TWC DOES have a deal already with Disney to add ESPNU HD to their lineup. It is up to your local provider to add it, have enough bandwidth, etc. So, the best place to check for it in your area is in your local thread, or by contacting and asking your local branch.

If people want to report its availability in their area here, that might be nice. :)

Time Warner Cable, Verizon’s FiOS TV, RCN, Atlantic Broadband and Broadstripe will all carry ESPNU HD when it launches at 6 a.m. (ET) on Aug. 28, according to ESPN officials.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6590153.html

In an attempt to preemptively cut off any questions about this one in advance:

Yes, ESPNU HD launches on Thursday. It is known (or at least strongly believed) that TWC DOES have a deal already with Disney to add ESPNU HD to their lineup. It is up to your local provider to add it, have enough bandwidth, etc. So, the best place to check for it in your area is in your local thread, or by contacting and asking your local branch.

If people want to report its availability in their area here, that might be nice. :)

i confirmed weeks ago that esps u-hd would be on TWC, and as recently as last week updated saying that it would launch in NY in september. you might want to take a look at post #1 to see what HD channels TWC has the rights to. and I also encourage posters to report when HD channels are launched, especially ones that are unknown to me.

Update from New York...

Channels 715 and 716 have popped up as placeholders for CNBC HD and USA HD. Right now it's just a message informing viewers to go to 196 for CNBC and 195 for USA. Obviously I was expecting these channels to get shut down after the Olympics, although it seemed to make some sense to keep USA HD up for all though who couldn't score tickets to the US Open. But would TWC NYC tease us like that if they weren't planning on keeping the channels long term? Crossing my fingers that this is for real, wouldn't be a bad thing at all to keep those 2 channels around long term.

Update from New York...

Channels 715 and 716 have popped up as placeholders for CNBC HD and USA HD. Right now it's just a message informing viewers to go to 196 for CNBC and 195 for USA. Obviously I was expecting these channels to get shut down after the Olympics, although it seemed to make some sense to keep USA HD up for all though who couldn't score tickets to the US Open. But would TWC NYC tease us like that if they weren't planning on keeping the channels long term? Crossing my fingers that this is for real, wouldn't be a bad thing at all to keep those 2 channels around long term.

yeah I just noticed that. Our Original olympic press release said it would stay on till the 30th. So I guess we will see if TWC actually keeps it.

yeah I just noticed that. Our Original olympic press release said it would stay on till the 30th. So I guess we will see if TWC actually keeps it.

It said the 24th.

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14392989#post14392989

the new system message channels on 715 and 716 are making the situation very confusing.....

DId TWC in NY heavily advertise the added channels? That could be why they're keeping an on screen message if viewers got used to it. Here in NE Ohio they added them with only a brief newspaper article about it. No promotion from TWC itself. Then they just disappeared overnight.

DId TWC in NY heavily advertise the added channels? That could be why they're keeping an on screen message if viewers got used to it. Here in NE Ohio they added them with only a brief newspaper article about it. No promotion from TWC itself. Then they just disappeared overnight.

No advertising at all....

In fact, the only press release a week before the Olympics was pulled a day later.

No advertising at all....

In fact, the only press release a week before the Olympics was pulled a day later.

they put out another release that says the channels would last till the 30th.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/InvestorRelations/PressReleases/TWCPressReleaseDivDetail.ashx?PRID=2336&MarketID=50

they put out another release that says the channels would last till the 30th.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/InvestorRelations/PressReleases/TWCPressReleaseDivDetail.ashx?PRID=2336&MarketID=50

Maybe I'm reading into this wrong, but I thought it was the On Demand content that was staying up until 8/30, not necessarily the HD channels. I could be wrong about that and these will disappear on the 30th, but the fact that other TWC systems have already dropped them and they're still up in New York, let alone that they showed up in the 700s AFTER the Olympics, as opposed to during.


DId TWC in NY heavily advertise the added channels? That could be why they're keeping an on screen message if viewers got used to it. Here in NE Ohio they added them with only a brief newspaper article about it. No promotion from TWC itself. Then they just disappeared overnight.

They barely advertised them at all. I called/e-mailed TWC NYC for days leading up to the Olympics and rarely got a straight answer as to where/if the channels would be carried. And when I went to sleep (well after Midnight) the night before the first soccer game, the channels hadn't yet shown up in the program guide. And that they put the channels in a strange location (most of the HD channels are in the 700s for us), it's really strange that only now is there a placeholder in the 700s directing us to where those channels are.

Maybe I'm reading into this wrong, but I thought it was the On Demand content that was staying up until 8/30, not necessarily the HD channels. I could be wrong about that and these will disappear on the 30th, but the fact that other TWC systems have already dropped them and they're still up in New York, let alone that they showed up in the 700s AFTER the Olympics, as opposed to during.


I figured the exact same thing (which makes sense....)

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/Programming/BigTenNetwork.html
(from TWC NY/NJ site)


Big Ten Network Update

August 27th, 2008

Time Warner Cable and the Big Ten Network announced today that they have reached an agreement-in-principle on terms of carriage for the Big Ten Network and its high-definition and video-on-demand programming on Time Warner Cable's line-ups throughout the Big Ten territory, including Ohio and Wisconsin.

The pending agreement will ensure that Time Warner Cable's customers across these Big Ten states will have access to this Saturday's Big Ten college football season openers and all future Big Ten Network programming on an expanded basic level of service.

Once Time Warner Cable gets the core Big Ten market agreements in place we will evaluate the possibility of carrying these games locally. Continue to check our website, timewarnercable.com/nynj, for information updates.


So as of now only the 'Big Ten markets' will be getting games right away.

They will consider the other TWC markets 'later' - whatever that means....

These were added in KC recently. I think we have near 60 HD channels now.

* ABC Family Channel HD – Channel 1048

* Disney Channel HD – Channel 1070

* ESPNU HD – Channel 1203 (soon)

* Toon Disney HD – Channel 1243

* Hallmark Movie Channel HD – Channel 1283

I'm still waiting for the other HBO channels. TW owns HBO afterall.

Would sure be nice in KC if we had USA HD (permanently) and FX HD before The Shield comes back...

In Cincinnati, I noticed ESPNU shows up in the Search as Channel 110 and 1803, but the guide jumps from 1501 to 1900. Here's hoping we get ESPNU-HD tonight (Vandy grad).

I noticed last night that Time Warner-Albany has added content from FearNet (http://www.fearnet.com/) to HD Showcase on Demand. It has a few movies/shorts in HD.
Would sure be nice in KC if we had USA HD (permanently) and FX HD before The Shield comes back...
Since The Shield starts Tuesday, that's not going to happen.

DId TWC in NY heavily advertise the added channels?

Amusingly when the tech came to visit my house to see why I couldn't receive the Olympic HD channels he (and two other techs he spoke to on the phone) didn't even know they had been added.

Now that's the TWC level of professionalism for you.

There is no reason they should know.

I noticed last night that Time Warner-Albany has added content from FearNet (http://www.fearnet.com/) to HD Showcase on Demand. It has a few movies/shorts in HD.


added to HD Showcase content on post 1

There is no reason they should know.

Eh I think there is. When you are out responding to a report that concerns that in particular and have no knowledge of what your employer is deploying to the field and how they are doing it then there is every reason to know.

Especially when they can't fix the problem and the best response is "something similar was happening when we were testing SDV but I don't know what they did to fix it."

That's like saying there's no reason to know that USAHD is off air because it was temporary carriage and scheduling a truck roll to try and fix the reason it isn't showing up.

ESPN U-HD added in TWC of Buffalo.

Since The Shield starts Tuesday, that's not going to happen.

Please don't crush my dreams, it's not Tuesday yet, I'm sure it will happen and FX HD will be added.....next year, maybe in time for Rescue Me;)

Amusingly when the tech came to visit my house to see why I couldn't receive the Olympic HD channels he (and two other techs he spoke to on the phone) didn't even know they had been added.

Now that's the TWC level of professionalism for you.

It amazed me the number of times I had to call/e-mail TWC to find out what the story was with the Olympic channels before the games. And to their credit, there was 1 or 2 reps who put me on hold for a good 10 minutes just to get me a correct answer. Of course, some took that whole 10 minutes and still couldn't get me a straight answer. Oh well.. from the city that still has USA HD up, I guess I shouldn't complain.

just sent TWC an email asking when ESPNU HD will be added in my area. i bet theyll say something like "we are not aware of the deal with ESPN you mentioned as that channel is not one our current offerings."

just sent TWC an email asking when ESPNU HD will be added in my area. i bet theyll say something like "we are not aware of the deal with ESPN you mentioned as that channel is not one our current offerings."

We're supposed to be getting Big Ten Network here in NE Ohio. Still not yet added. If you or any other TWC system gets ESPNU HD, you're pretty lucky. I doubt we'll be seeing that one.

TWC-Queens,NY
currently USA-HD and CNBC-HD on 195/196 are working good. happy to have USA-HD.

here in LA, USA HD and CNBC HD are still available through clear QAM but FSN HD isnt working. FSN HD works through the box though.

KC got ESPNU-HD last night!

Is it normal for TWC to have programs listed as HD on their DVR program guides when they don't have the channel available in HD? I noticed some FX shows with the HD tag (though I've yet to find FX HD in the channel lineup) and now I've started seeing the same thing with some Bravo shows. I thought the "HD" tag was for content available in HD?

Well.... it was great while it lasted...

TWC NY/NJ dumped USAHD and CNBCHD a few hours ago....

HAHA!!

ROFL!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Couldn't resist. USA HD was my favorite channel. I'm still recovering from that loss. :(

here in LA, USA HD and CNBC HD are still available through clear QAM but FSN HD isnt working. FSN HD works through the box though.

And gone as of 10am as I turned on to watch US Open! Unless they changed channels????? I was also watching on QAM tuner channel 81.622 for USA hd.

I'm ticked! USA Network is just a basic cable channel not basic expanded, if it's in hd shouldn't that be part of the regular included HD cable line up, (non tier)?

Still have Universal hd though. Are they gonna take that away too?:mad:

And gone as of 10am as I turned on to watch US Open! Unless they changed channels????? I was also watching on QAM tuner channel 81.622 for USA hd.

I'm ticked! USA Network is just a basic cable channel not basic expanded, if it's in hd shouldn't that be part of the regular included HD cable line up, (non tier)?

Still have Universal hd though. Are they gonna take that away too?:mad:

nothing to do with tiers - USAHD was dropped completely. it was only added for the olympics

Yes, USA is independent of tiers. TWC didn't make a permanent agreement. Now it's back to being another one of those channels that is permanently has "Negotiations In Progress" with TWC.

Jeez!! I think there will be an agreement and peace in the Middle East before TWC ever makes an agreement to carry more HD. How f---ing hard is it? They already carry SD.

Well.... it was great while it lasted...

TWC NY/NJ dumped USAHD and CNBCHD a few hours ago....

Yeah I just noticed that a few minutes ago ... what a load of crap.

Yeah I just noticed that a few minutes ago ... what a load of crap.

This really sucks. They tell us its for the Olympics only, then they keep the channels up for what seemed like a good reason (the US Open, played right here in NY), put 2 placeholder channels which weren't even up until after the Olympics, and not they're gone. I know I should be happy we at least got the Olympics, but damn.

TWC here in DFW didn't waste anytime removing USA HD and CNBC HD. They were gone by the next morning. I'm surprised some got them for an extra week.

just sent TWC an email asking when ESPNU HD will be added in my area. i bet theyll say something like "we are not aware of the deal with ESPN you mentioned as that channel is not one our current offerings."

as expected they responded like they didnt know what i was talking about. heres my original message sent a few days ago:

It is my understanding the Time Warner has reached a deal with ESPN to offer ESPNU HD which was launched today. It was supposed to be available at 3 AM this morning. When can I expect it to be added to my channel grid?

heres their response:

Thank you for your inquiry. I apologize for the inconvenience regarding these channels and will be glad to assist you. We have recently we launched ESPN News in HD on channel 426. This is a free channel.

We are also offering ESPN GamePlan on channels 721-726. This however is a Pay Per View service.

These are the prices (does not include taxes/fees):


- Early Bird Special - $109 (Through August 29th)
- Regular Season - $129 (available starting August 30th)
- Mid-Season - $79.95 (available starting October 19th)
- Weekly - $21.95 (available starting August 30th – end of season)

Has anyone else in the Dallas area or even outside it gotten a september mailer noting new HD channels coming soon? Over at broadbandreports they are reportedly going to be added in november/december and they are.

espn news hd
Science HD
Weather Channel HD
Travel HD
National Geographic HD
Biography HD
PlanetGreen HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
fox business hd
tmc hd
tlc hd

Also there is the possibility of these additions but no agreements are in place yet. The goal is reportedly 60 HD by years end in the DFW area.

espnu hd
disney hd
toon disney hd
abc family hd
tennis hd
showtime 2 hd
fox news hd
mgm hd
outdoor hd
game hd
team hd
starz egde hd
starz kids and family hd
starz comedy hd
paladia hd (formerly mhd)
halmark movie hd

Also there is the possibility of these additions but no agreements are in place yet. The goal is reportedly 60 HD by years end in the DFW area.

espnu hd
disney hd
toon disney hd
abc family hd
tennis hd
showtime 2 hd
fox news hd
mgm hd
outdoor hd
game hd
team hd
starz egde hd
starz kids and family hd
starz comedy hd
paladia hd (formerly mhd)
halmark movie hd

everyone of those channels are on post #1 under "Known Deals Done With TWC" and has launched on various TWC systems with the exception of tennis-hd which is set to debut in NY later in september.

looks like TWC LA wont be getting ESPNU HD for a while


Thank you for your e-mail. We will be happy to assist regarding ESPNU HD channel. We sincerely apologize for any confusion regarding this matter. ESPNU is broadcasted in channel 251. We will be adding lots of new HD programming upon completion of our network integration projects. CNN, History Channel, Discovery, TLC, Disney Channel, ESPNews, Golf, A&E, ABC Family, HGTV, National Geographic, and Food Network are examples of that HD programming. Unfortunately, ESPNU is not included in the New HD channel launch.

Although we are attempting to provide the best service possible, we have not achieved the same licensing agreements with networks that your previous carrier had established. Time Warner Cable pays license fees to networks in order for us to bring the content to customers. We are working hard to reach an agreement with these networks and will work as long as we must to make sure it's a fair deal for our customers. TWC is committed to providing all customers offers that are a good value and will resolve this issue as quickly as possible. Please keep in mind, we had similar negotiations with dozens of other programmers and were able to finalize a deal to continue carrying other favorite channels. If you wish to find upcoming changes to your channel lineup please visit the link below.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/socal/programming/alerts.html

Links to Local TWC Threads

New York, NY – TWC
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592

Los Angeles, CA – TWC
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=306411

Dallas, TX – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=529070

Cleveland, OH – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=287017

Charlotte, NC – TWC
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=128876

San Diego, CA – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=376666

Raleigh, NC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=147473

Kansas City, MO – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=234120

Columbus, OH – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=444586

Milwaukee, WI – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=463747

Cincinnati, OH – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=306883

Greenville, SC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=322947

San Antonio, TX – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=137205

Greensboro, NC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=137768

Buffalo, NY – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=137214

Austin, TX – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=336964

Albany, NY - HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=232530

Green Bay, WI - HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=333145

Honolulu, HI - HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=329826

Omaha / Lincoln, NE - HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=144464

Rochester, NY – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=394083

Syracuse / Utica, NY - HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=334413

Columbia, SC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=99727

Waco / Bryan, TX – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=387012

El Paso, TX – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=256631

Charleston, SC
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=221319

Myrtle Beach, SC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=186712

Greenville, NC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=393419

Santa Barbara, CA – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=248309

Bakersfield, CA – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=460701

Wilmington, NC – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=254668

Erie, PA – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=389129

Palm Springs, CA – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=520724

Bangor, ME – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=233668

Binghamton / Elmira, NY – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=253210

Yuma, AZ – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=575324&goto=newpost

Dayton/Lima, OH – HDTV
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=136336

Laredo, TX
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14548333#post14548333

Links to Local TWC Threads


Not sure if you are keeping this AVS only or not, but Austin TWC users use this Yahoo group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cable we also use this thread, but it covers all Austin reception, not just cable: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=336964

xnappo

Another lame thing with TWC's HD is that none of their premium content available on HBO HD or SHO HD is available in HD through VOD. Since HD VOD is the one thing that allows them to claim that they offer more HD than satellite, you would think at least HD premium content would also be available ON DEMAND.

sad to see USA-HD gone. i was enjoying it. hope it comes back. love to see WWE RAW in HD

sad to see USA-HD gone. i was enjoying it. hope it comes back. love to see WWE RAW in HD

Same here. ALOT of people are teed off here because TWC never advertised the fact that these were temporary additions. I was ecstatic when I saw it in the guide! I was even saying that that move alone would bide my time from switching to a satellite provider only to see it removed when pissed me off so much that I am now actively looking at satellite. I also noticed today that MHD is gone as well. What the hell is going on?

I mean I give props to TWC when its due and they were making great headway as we had about 50 - 60 channels (not including VOD). No the I see them dumping channels???

EDIT: Ok, I see MHD is now Palladia.

Same here. ALOT of people are teed off here because TWC never advertised the fact that these were temporary additions. I was ecstatic when I saw it in the guide! I was even saying that that move alone would bide my time from switching to a satellite provider only to see it removed when pissed me off so much that I am now actively looking at satellite. I also noticed today that MHD is gone as well. What the hell is going on?

I mean I give props to TWC when its due and they were making great headway as we had about 50 - 60 channels (not including VOD). No the I see them dumping channels???

EDIT: Ok, I see MHD is now Palladia.


Um... they actually did make it VERY clear that it was only for the olympics.

Um... they actually did make it VERY clear that it was only for the olympics.

Maybe in your division they did, but not here. There wasn't anything on the website or otherwise. I know now that some divisions ran ads and things. Our division as a whole is horrible with disseminating information about programming. Hell, half the time, the only way you know there is a change is by scrolling through the guide and finding out a channel was added or taken away. The CSR's are clueless as well. I mean, really, how hard is it to update the website?

Maybe in your division they did, but not here. There wasn't anything on the website or otherwise. I know now that some divisions ran ads and things. Our division as a whole is horrible with disseminating information about programming. Hell, half the time, the only way you know there is a change is by scrolling through the guide and finding out a channel was added or taken away. The CSR's are clueless as well. I mean, really, how hard is it to update the website?

No - they didn't advertise it at all actually.

but any press release that did come out did state clearly that it was only for the olympics.

It was also made very clear by everyone in this thread that they were aware of this.......

No - they didn't advertise it at all actually.

but any press release that did come out did state clearly that it was only for the olympics.

It was also made very clear by everyone in this thread that they were aware of this.......

I was aware it about two days in, but I reiterate that it was my research that led to that information. TWC in this division provides zero knowledge of anything for the most part. DirecTV and Dish drop press releases when they have things going on, not TWC. I was stating that there are alot of people in this division bummed out because they thought these channels would be added on a more permanent basis.

Time Warner-Albany has added ABC Family HD and ESPNU HD.

Links to Local TWC Threads

New York, NY – TWC....

Something about Florida you don't like?

Seems Brighthouse just raised their rates across the board, basic, expanded, digital, etc all went up. So I am looking into Dish Turbo HD to save some money. I'm tired of Brighthouse raising rates every 8 months or so and adding crap HD channels that aren't even broadcasting programs in HD!!!!

Something about Florida you don't like?

LOL, I absolutely love Florida, especially Orlando!
I still keep BHN separate from TWC in my mind. I think there is a separate BHN thread here somewhere on AVS.

does TWC upconvert channels in other markets outside of los angeles? here in LA (eagle rock former adelphia), theyre upconverting ABC, ESPN and Fox to 1080i. until a couple days ago they were upconverting FSN HD too.

LOL, I absolutely love Florida, especially Orlando!
I still keep BHN separate from TWC in my mind. I think there is a separate BHN thread here somewhere on AVS.
Yeah, I was "kicked out" of the TWC thread a few months back. There is now a BHN thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1060422

I still catch up with this thread, because it does add information about new channels for TWC, which invariably coincide with the BHN new channels. The new BHN thread appears to not be very popular, though.

Yeah, I was "kicked out" of the TWC thread a few months back. There is now a BHN thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1060422

I still catch up with this thread, because it does add information about new channels for TWC, which invariably coincide with the BHN new channels. The new BHN thread appears to not be very popular, though.

Not much going on in that thread. The local BH thread is huge, but I'm looking for some numbers so I can fuel myself for a jump to Dish. I'm tired of BH raising rates, any recent information on Dish's (new mpeg4) bit rates compared to TWC/BH?

does TWC upconvert channels in other markets outside of los angeles? here in LA (eagle rock former adelphia), theyre upconverting ABC, ESPN and Fox to 1080i. until a couple days ago they were upconverting FSN HD too.

What makes you think it's being upconverted? You sure your cable box isn't set to upconvert?

UPDATE: Time Warner Cable COO: Expects To Ramp Up Marketing

September 09, 2008: 01:41 PM EST

(Updated with additional executive comments starting in the ninth paragraph.)

By Roger Cheng

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Time Warner Cable Inc. (TWC) has been aggressive in its marketing efforts and expects to further ramp up its advertising, said Chief Operating Officer Landel Hobbs.

The company's ads will continue to aggressively target rival satellite and telecommunications providers, Hobbs said during an investor conference hosted by Merrill Lynch. He added, however, that the company continues to monitor its spending on advertising so that it remains level as a percentage of revenue.

Advertising is critical to Time Warner as it faces increased competition. Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ), in particular, has been rolling out its FiOS TV service in New York City, one of Time Warner Cable's core market.

Hobbs said Time Warner has a standard "playbook" in regards to competition, including pushing bundles, a "price-lock guarantee" promotion, and door-to-door sales.

"We're effectively positioned in Manhattan," Hobbs said. "(Verizon) is just getting started."

The company is also heavily promoting its service to the Hispanic market, which Hobbs said generates new customers.

As for the Docsis super-fast Internet connection, Hobbs said Time Warner Cable plans to use it "surgically" to compete in areas where FiOS is available. He called it a "super premium product."

On high-definition content, Hobbs said he was confident that Time Warner Cable is competing strongly against satellite companies and telcos. The company plans to roll out more high-definition channels, as well as HD video-on-demand services.

On future investments, Hobbs said he sees capital expenditures falling as a percentage of revenue. He doesn't see another full rebuild of the network, but added that technology demands will require continued spending on upgrades.

Hobbs said he is comfortable with the size of the company. While Time Warner Cable is always looking for acquisition opportunities, the company wouldn't overpay. It will also look to possible dividends and stock buybacks.

Hobbs pointed to opportunities in the commercial business, advanced advertising and wireless as future growth drivers.

-By Roger Cheng, Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-2020; roger.cheng@dowjones.com

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UPDATE: Time Warner Cable COO: Expects To Ramp Up Marketing


On high-definition content, Hobbs said he was confident that Time Warner Cable is competing strongly against satellite companies and telcos. The company plans to roll out more high-definition channels, as well as HD video-on-demand services.

CNBC HD is about the only channel I would like to have that I do now get now on TWC. Certainly not enough to make me want to make satellite commitments, but DVRs, limit multi-room setups, find a place for the pizza pan, etc.

Advertising??? How about getting some HD content people actually want and NOT take it away!!??!! USA, Fx, Sci-Fi - get them already.A guide that is actually usable with functions consumers want? SARA is so far behind the times that the first gen satellite IPGs were far batter and Navigator has been a disaster. Still can't show HD only, still can't add/delete channels, still don't have keyword search, etc. They might make gains in areas where FiOS is poised to start kicking their butt, but in more rural places I'm guess it will be the same old crap.

Advertising??? How about getting some HD content people actually want and NOT take it away!!??!! USA, Fx, Sci-Fi - get them already.A guide that is actually usable with functions consumers want? SARA is so far behind the times that the first gen satellite IPGs were far batter and Navigator has been a disaster. Still can't show HD only, still can't add/delete channels, still don't have keyword search, etc. They might make gains in areas where FiOS is poised to start kicking their butt, but in more rural places I'm guess it will be the same old crap.

Navigator doesn't even identify HD programing anymore. Passport did. Passport also used to have a keyword search. Navigator only has title search. Plus it is awful.

And that was low. After adding USA HD, they take it away.

Navigator doesn't even identify HD programing anymore. Passport did. Passport also used to have a keyword search. Navigator only has title search. Plus it is awful.

And that was low. After adding USA HD, they take it away.

My main point is CONTENT! They need actual content. The can advertise all they want and tout "Free HD", but unless they get channels people care about, then to me it's pointless. I'm looking to dump them because the guide leaves so much to be desired. I was looking forward to Navigator because SARA was butt ugly with zero options, but after reading up on what a disaster Navigator has been I'm bracing for a provider change.

Andy: I email to her all the time, never a reply.

I also told her that we are boycotting the viewing of any channel that is available in HD, but not being carried by them. i.e. USA/SciFi/Bravo/FX, etc. I also indicated I'm ready to go Satellite.

Anyone else we can email & pressure?

Not to mention that their cable guide will list programs as "HD" when TWC doesn't even offer the program in HD (and premium cable available in HD, but not HD ON DEMAND).

Andy: I email to her all the time, never a reply.

I also told her that we are boycotting the viewing of any channel that is available in HD, but not being carried by them. i.e. USA/SciFi/Bravo/FX, etc. I also indicated I'm ready to go Satellite.

Anyone else we can email & pressure?

yeah she doesnt respond any more, she used to fwd it to others underneath her but that has stopped as well.

I guess you can google TWC executives and send them a message. The email format is pretty easy to figure out.

Some PR people are:
Mark.Harrad@twcable.com
Alex.Dudley@twcable.com

What makes you think it's being upconverted? You sure your cable box isn't set to upconvert?

i record to my PC using firewire so it tells me what the original resolution of the channel is. the thing is with ESPN, sometimes its 1080i and other times it goes back to 720p. ESPN 2 and ESPN News both are still 720p. in the local thread for LA, others are experiencing the same upconversion problems as i am.

yeah she doesnt respond any more, she used to fwd it to others underneath her but that has stopped as well.

I guess you can google TWC executives and send them a message. The email format is pretty easy to figure out.

Some PR people are:
Mark.Harrad@twcable.com
Alex.Dudley@twcable.com


The truth is that TWC doesn't really care about us (tech savvy users) and probably wishes there were less of us. We know how bad we are being ripped or what minor changes can be done to appease the masses. They don't listen to us because to them we are acceptable loses should we switch. They prefer the uniformed technophobe who thinks the current DVR is the best thing in the world because they have never seen anything else.

yeah she doesnt respond any more, she used to fwd it to others underneath her but that has stopped as well.

I emailed her a polite note and received a response a couple of days later from the VP of marketing for my local TWC (Austin). I was quite pleased with the responsiveness. It was not a form letter, it was a personal note.

yeah she doesnt respond any more, she used to fwd it to others underneath her but that has stopped as well.

I guess you can google TWC executives and send them a message. The email format is pretty easy to figure out.

Some PR people are:
Mark.Harrad@twcable.com
Alex.Dudley@twcable.com

That's what she said!! LOL! :p

But seriously they don't care about real HD viewers. I think that's part of the reason why Navigator doesn't identify HD programming in the guide. Even though that system was flawed on networks like TNT and TBS that said everything was HDTV. But it was correct on others like History and Food. Plus Navigator now gives the "Press Select For Enhanced" option that tunes to the HD channel. Further confusing the uninformed viewer by making them think everythign is HD just because it is on the HD channel.

Andy: I email to her all the time, never a reply.

I also told her that we are boycotting the viewing of any channel that is available in HD, but not being carried by them. i.e. USA/SciFi/Bravo/FX, etc. I also indicated I'm ready to go Satellite.

Anyone else we can email & pressure?

Threats and emails are pointless now. If you can switch then do so. TWC are not listening to words. If they are then they are technologically crippled anyway and are not in a position to fix everything they screwed up. They have a poor infrastructure slowing them down and a bad user interface they cannot program.

Losing subscribers is the only way they will move and if you are not in a directly competitive location for FiOS, U-Verse etc. to force them to preemptively upgrade their services, losing numbers is the only thing they will pay attention to.

Time Warner Cable will add two new channels to its HD lineup in Greensboro.

ESPNU HD, a 24-hour college sports channel, and Planet Green HD, an eco-lifestyle channel, will both launch Friday.



http://www.news-record.com/content/2008/09/10/article/time_warner_cable_to_launch_new_hd_channels_friday

yeah she doesnt respond any more, she used to fwd it to others underneath her but that has stopped as well.

I guess you can google TWC executives and send them a message. The email format is pretty easy to figure out.

Some PR people are:
Mark.Harrad@twcable.com
Alex.Dudley@twcable.com
Sent message to both but Mark's address kicked back. Either full, changed his email, or quit.

I'm from the Bangor, Maine demographic/market. The local CBS affiliate and TWC are at an impasse and the CBS HD signal is not available through TWC. Is this phenomenon common in other markets? We've got a rinky dink ABC affiliate here that might as well be a college station and even it has inked a deal with TWC for carriage. The CBS affiliate is a locally owned, well thought of outfit but is clearly out of step with the NBC, ABC, (even PBS) affiliates. I'm a neophyte on these issues. Anyone know what the possibilities justifying a hang up could possibly be. I've emailed both the affiliate and TWC and I get back polite albeit vague responses. My gut tells me it's $$$ but I wondered if anyone had any insight on something more subtle or technical that goes on in these negotiations. Thanks in advance.

I'm from the Bangor, Maine demographic/market. The local CBS affiliate and TWC are at an impasse and the CBS HD signal is not available through TWC. Is this phenomenon common in other markets?We had the same problem in Central Ohio between TW and Sinclair Broadcasting which owns the local ABC and FOX affiliates. The hangup was that Sinclair insisted on being paid for the HD feeds.

I'm from the Bangor, Maine demographic/market. The local CBS affiliate and TWC are at an impasse and the CBS HD signal is not available through TWC. Is this phenomenon common in other markets? We've got a rinky dink ABC affiliate here that might as well be a college station and even it has inked a deal with TWC for carriage. The CBS affiliate is a locally owned, well thought of outfit but is clearly out of step with the NBC, ABC, (even PBS) affiliates. I'm a neophyte on these issues. Anyone know what the possibilities justifying a hang up could possibly be. I've emailed both the affiliate and TWC and I get back polite albeit vague responses. My gut tells me it's $$$ but I wondered if anyone had any insight on something more subtle or technical that goes on in these negotiations. Thanks in advance.
Same problem we had in Hawaii with CBS & TWC. The issue was if TWC was going to charge subs for the CBS-HD (in a HD package), then they wanted to get their share. They resolved this by TWC providing the 5 major networks for free to cable subs, and not on Switched Digital Video (SDV). Anyone with a QAM tuner can pick them up with the cable connected.

I'm from the Bangor, Maine demographic/market. The local CBS affiliate and TWC are at an impasse and the CBS HD signal is not available through TWC. Is this phenomenon common in other markets? We've got a rinky dink ABC affiliate here that might as well be a college station and even it has inked a deal with TWC for carriage. The CBS affiliate is a locally owned, well thought of outfit but is clearly out of step with the NBC, ABC, (even PBS) affiliates. I'm a neophyte on these issues. Anyone know what the possibilities justifying a hang up could possibly be. I've emailed both the affiliate and TWC and I get back polite albeit vague responses. My gut tells me it's $$$ but I wondered if anyone had any insight on something more subtle or technical that goes on in these negotiations. Thanks in advance.

We had the same problem in Central Ohio between TW and Sinclair Broadcasting which owns the local ABC and FOX affiliates. The hangup was that Sinclair insisted on being paid for the HD feeds.

phousley is right. TWC and the local might not come out and say it, but this is a new common tactic of broadcast stations to basically extort big bucks from cable providers and it's all legal due to the Cable Act of 1996. Sinclair is the worst offender, but they are setting precedent. What it boils down to is that these FREE OTA stations want big cash payments per sub by providers to show their feeds. We have gone through this in my market as well. Expect it to get more and more common.

They resolved this by TWC providing the 5 major networks for free to cable subs, and not on Switched Digital Video (SDV). Anyone with a QAM tuner can pick them up with the cable connected.

All cable providers are required to carry local broadcasts via ClearQAM, unswitched and unencrypted per FCC regulation. However, the broadcast station doesn't have to allow the cable company carriage.

All cable providers are required to carry local broadcasts via ClearQAM, unswitched and unencrypted per FCC regulation. However, the broadcast station doesn't have to allow the cable company carriage.

There was some discussion on our local thread that the ClearQAM requirement did not necessarily mean it had to be HD, but digital SD?

We have the same problem here with LIN and TheCW (no great loss there, but they also own NBC and it took a LONG time to get that).

From what I can tell LIN and Sinclair are the ones charging more than other owners for local stations - I blame them. On the basic cable front, it is NBC charging more than their competition. I only watch one SD show anymore(The Daily Show) - but I guess there aren't enough people doing that that the loss of viewers drives them to negotiate.

xnappo

TLC-HD (755) and Animal Planet HD (764) added to TWC San Diego today.

non Adelphia TWC San Diego customers get Animal Planet HD and TLC HD. More HD channels are coming. Some ex Adelphia channels that were added earlier may not be added :(. Both channels are SDV.

I received the following reply from TWC:

Greetings:



Thank you for writing Time Warner Cable. We have no immediate plans to add USA HD to our lineup. It was only given to us by NBC temporarily as a way to maximize viewers' enjoyment of the Olympics. Please know that we are dedicated to expanding our HD channel offerings. We continue to explore ways to add that channel on a permanent, full-time basis.



Due to a confluence of contractual and technical issues, we are currently limited in our ability to offer additional HD content. We are looking forward to resolving those concerns in the coming months, which will allow us to offer additional HD content to our customers. Please know that our division of Time Warner Cable continues to dedicate itself to expanding our HD channel offerings. We will continue to negotiate in good faith with the owners the local affiliates, and networks like SciFi to upgrade our systems in order to expand our channel offerings, and work with the content providers to secure additional broadcast rights.



Customer feedback is very important to us, so we appreciate hearing from you. E-mail messages - including yours - are reviewed by all levels of management within our local office. Thank you for your input. I will also be forwarding your message to our Programming department for their review.



If you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact our office. We can be reached by phone at 315-634-6000 from 7AM until 10PM daily. Once again, thank you for taking the time to write us and thank you for being our customer.



Sincerely,

Jennifer Rattigan

Customer Service


Take it how you want to take it, but to me it seems like we will be stagnated at the HD content we currently have. I wish the new DirecTivo was out already. I'm actually surprised TWC put out there that they don't plan on adding USA HD. One would think they would at least try and BS it a little to keep people hanging on. Anyhow, I have to go check out Dish and DirecTV websites now and get an idea of where I stand.

Pure speculation:

NBC Universal (USA, SciFi, Bravo, CNBC, etc.) is asking TWC to commit to more aggressive universal HD deployment schedule of their channels than is consistant with TWC regional technical capabilities, that they may be asking for distribution of channels in markets that don't currently offer those channels even in SD. Even the status of Universal HD as a tiered channel may be in play.

The reality is that NBC Universal will lose viewship in TWC markets if their programming is not offered in HD, and TWC will lose additional subscribers to alternate providers if their HD offerings don't have reasonable parity. A deal WILL be done, the urgency factor just isn't quite to that tipping point yet.

Pure speculation:

NBC Universal (USA, SciFi, Bravo, CNBC, etc.) is asking TWC to commit to more aggressive universal HD deployment schedule of their channels than is consistant with TWC regional technical capabilities, that they may be asking for distribution of channels in markets that don't currently offer those channels even in SD. Even the status of Universal HD as a tiered channel may be in play.

The reality is that NBC Universal will lose viewship in TWC markets if their programming is not offered in HD, and TWC will lose additional subscribers to alternate providers if their HD offerings don't have reasonable parity. A deal WILL be done, the urgency factor just isn't quite to that tipping point yet.


I agree that eventually a deal will be cut, but it will be too little too late for many people like me who are looking to get them elsewhere. DirecTV is et to go live with HD locals in my market this month and there is one less reason to keep TWC.

Looks like TW finally added Big Ten network in Austin, TX. You have to buy the Sports Pak to get it though. Wonder if NFL network is on its way as well..

Looks like TW finally added Big Ten network in Austin, TX. You have to buy the Sports Pak to get it though. Wonder if NFL network is on its way as well..

If the NFL would allow TWC to put the NFL Net on the Sports Pak, we would have it straight away. That's their main point of contention.

I believe their agreement with the Big 10 Network was to air on basic cable in the Big 10 markets. It's interesting that in your non-Big 10 market you can get it on the sports tier. I know my dad would be thrilled if he could do that here in Greensboro. Maybe it will be made available here at some point too...?

If the NFL would allow TWC to put the NFL Net on the Sports Pak, we would have it straight away. That's their main point of contention.

I believe their agreement with the Big 10 Network was to air on basic cable in the Big 10 markets. It's interesting that in your non-Big 10 market you can get it on the sports tier. I know my dad would be thrilled if he could do that here in Greensboro. Maybe it will be made available here at some point too...?


i got the big ten here dallas as of 9/15 on the sports tier.

TWC adds ESPNU HD, about to add Big Ten Network in Columbia, SC
by Darren Murph, posted Sep 16th 2008 at 11:01PM


Not that many (any?) Gamecock games are relegated to ESPNU or anything, but folks in the Columbia region of South Carolina can now tune into ESPNU HD on slot 952. The channel is being arranged beside ESPN HD (950), ESPN2 HD (951) and ESPNews HD (953). Also of note, Dan Santelle, Time Warner vice-president of programming and product development for the Carolina region, has suggested that his company is finalizing an agreement that will bring Big Ten Network to the system, which ought to make the scads of transplants and legions of sports fans in general quite pleased. [Disclosure: Engadget is part of the Time Warner family]

TWC adds ESPNU HD, about to add Big Ten Network in Columbia, SC
by Darren Murph, posted Sep 16th 2008 at 11:01PM


Not that many (any?) Gamecock games are relegated to ESPNU or anything, but folks in the Columbia region of South Carolina can now tune into ESPNU HD on slot 952. The channel is being arranged beside ESPN HD (950), ESPN2 HD (951) and ESPNews HD (953). Also of note, Dan Santelle, Time Warner vice-president of programming and product development for the Carolina region, has suggested that his company is finalizing an agreement that will bring Big Ten Network to the system, which ought to make the scads of transplants and legions of sports fans in general quite pleased. [Disclosure: Engadget is part of the Time Warner family]

Time Warner is adding the Big Ten here in Raleigh/Durham area on the 25th. Looks like they will add it in Charlotte area at the same time.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/Carolinas/programming/channelChangeUpdate.html


Sept. 25, 2008: Big Ten Network will be available to Digital Sports & Games subscribers. Big Ten Network is a 24-hr channel consisting of primarily of Big Ten Conference sporting events and sports programming, as well as an amount of ancillary programming related to the Big Ten Conference member universities, their students, communities and alumni. Coverage includes live telecasts of football, basketball, baseball and Olympic sports.


Standard Definition: Channel 323
High Definition: Channel 287

Time Warner is adding the Big Ten here in Raleigh/Durham area on the 25th. Looks like they will add it in Charlotte area at the same time.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/Carolinas/programming/channelChangeUpdate.html


Sept. 25, 2008: Big Ten Network will be available to Digital Sports & Games subscribers. Big Ten Network is a 24-hr channel consisting of primarily of Big Ten Conference sporting events and sports programming, as well as an amount of ancillary programming related to the Big Ten Conference member universities, their students, communities and alumni. Coverage includes live telecasts of football, basketball, baseball and Olympic sports.


Standard Definition: Channel 323
High Definition: Channel 287

Seriously? Big 11 Network, but no ESPNU-HD? No MASN? No NFL network? Of all the HD channels we don't have (and Directv does) and thats what we get? Psshh, boo Time Warner.

pen15nv I agree with 100%, twc continues to fall further behind

Don't you think TWC chose the Big Ten Network because they can add it to the Sports Tier which will potentially generate more revenue for them. There are lots of transplants in NC from Big Ten areas who will gladly pay a couple bucks for the channel.

Seriously? Big 11 Network, but no ESPNU-HD? No MASN? No NFL network? Of all the HD channels we don't have (and Directv does) and thats what we get? Psshh, boo Time Warner.

Some divisions have ESPNU-HD (mine, for example). And I'm quite happy not to have the tremendously overpriced NFL-Network on the standard tier (since they won't accept being on the sports tier).

Am I the only one who think these sports HD channels should be included if you subscribe to the HD Tier?

Am I the only one who think these sports HD channels should be included if you subscribe to the HD Tier?

they're not?

I have digital cable and the HD tier and I have the ESPNs (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNNEWS) and local RSN in HD all included in my package.

I'm subscribed to the HD tier and I'm quite sure that only comes with MOJO, HDNET, HDNET MOVIES and UNIVERSAL HD. :mad:

they're not?

I have digital cable and the HD tier and I have the ESPNs (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNNEWS) and local RSN in HD all included in my package.

Sorry, I meant the sports tier HD channels, IE NHL-HD channel and Big Ten

Am I the only one who think these sports HD channels should be included if you subscribe to the HD Tier?I don't have a problem with the way they work it now. If you subscribe to the SD version of a channel, you get the HD for no additional programming cost (such as ESPNs-HD via Digital Cable, Food-HD via Variety tier, HBO-HD via HBO, etc.). Why would the HD tier give you sports HD that people on Sports Tier get for a fee. You would need Sports tier to get them in HD, and HD tier gets you the limited channels on there. We would all sign up for HD tier if it gave us all channels that are available in HD without having to pay for the tier they are really on.... /Dan

I don't have a problem with the way they work it now. If you subscribe to the SD version of a channel, you get the HD for no additional programming cost (such as ESPNs-HD via Digital Cable, Food-HD via Variety tier, HBO-HD via HBO, etc.). Why would the HD tier give you sports HD that people on Sports Tier get for a fee. You would need Sports tier to get them in HD, and HD tier gets you the limited channels on there. We would all sign up for HD tier if it gave us all channels that are available in HD without having to pay for the tier they are really on.... /Dan

Then why is it I get ESPN News HD but not ESPNU HD both of which are on the digital tier to which I do not subscribe?

CBS College Sports-HD added to TWC of San Antonio.

CBS College Sports-HD added to TWC of San Antonio.

dallas just got cbs college sports in sd. on 195 in the sports tier:D:D:D

What sucks is that there is so much variation from division to division. I would love to see a "national" cable lineup where all markets get the same content (except locals of course). I know it's far easier said than done, but it should be something to work for. It would be nice to have a centralized line up.

What sucks is that there is so much variation from division to division. I would love to see a "national" cable lineup where all markets get the same content (except locals of course). I know it's far easier said than done, but it should be something to work for. It would be nice to have a centralized line up.

No kidding. Especially for those of us in minimum HD TWC markets. I wrote to our local TWC and asked why they had capacity for Olympic Games; but dropped those channels, as soon as it was over. Of course no answer. :mad:

What sucks is that there is so much variation from division to division. I would love to see a "national" cable lineup where all markets get the same content (except locals of course). I know it's far easier said than done, but it should be something to work for. It would be nice to have a centralized line up.Of course, not all systems have infrastructures that will allow for the same capacity everywhere. I can't imagine that that would change any time in the foreseeable future.

Anyone know why -- TW didn't!-- the MSU/ND football game was blacked out on ESPNHD but carried on ESPN. This is one of those "reverse mirror " games that ABC/ESPN shows at 3:30. Our ABC station showed an ACC game. My son who lives in Boston said his ABC showed the MSU/ND game and ESPN showed the ACC game -- he does not have HD so that is why I am posting this. I called TW and they really didn't even know what I ws talking about. ESPNHD showed ESPN News and as soon as the ABC game was over went back to regular ESPN stuff.:confused:

I live in SC near Myrtle Beach -- forgot to include that.

Anyone know why -- TW didn't!-- the MSU/ND football game was blacked out on ESPNHD but carried on ESPN. This is one of those "reverse mirror " games that ABC/ESPN shows at 3:30. Our ABC station showed an ACC game. My son who lives in Boston said his ABC showed the MSU/ND game and ESPN showed the ACC game -- he does not have HD so that is why I am posting this. I called TW and they really didn't even know what I ws talking about. ESPNHD showed ESPN News and as soon as the ABC game was over went back to regular ESPN stuff.:confused:

It wasn't a TW issue. The reason is the reverse mirror that ESPN/ABC does with the 3:30 games.

ESPN or ESPN2 is not able to provide alternate programming in HD currently. They can switch it to a different feed such as ESPNEWS HD but they currently do not have the ability to send multiple games in HD at the same time. So when ABC/ESPN does a reverse mirror, only the game going to more of the country on ESPN is in HD with the other game only on the SD channel.

What sucks is that there is so much variation from division to division. I would love to see a "national" cable lineup where all markets get the same content (except locals of course). I know it's far easier said than done, but it should be something to work for. It would be nice to have a centralized line up.

Demographics play a huge role in the lineups, too. Here in SoCal where there is a large Hispanic population, TWC has at least 15-20 Spanish only channels which wouldn't be a big hit in Maine or Montana.

Demographics play a huge role in the lineups, too. Here in SoCal where there is a large Hispanic population, TWC has at least 15-20 Spanish only channels which wouldn't be a big hit in Maine or Montana.

I understand that, but both satellite companies have "national" lineup. If a sub wants Spanish langiage programming they can get it.

Cable companies could easily do this, but they would have to switch to an all digital system and do away with analog. That would open the bandwidth as most MSO's have an 800Mhz to 1Ghz plant. Problem is people would flip because they would need a box. However, if cable were to implement the Terrapix system, they could convert back to analog at the demarc point. There are alot of options out there. I personally like the way satellite does it with a fixed line up and reserved channels in the 0-100 tier for OTA/locals. Cable could do the same thing.

I understand that, but both satellite companies have "national" lineup. If a sub wants Spanish langiage programming they can get it.

Cable companies could easily do this, but they would have to switch to an all digital system and do away with analog. That would open the bandwidth as most MSO's have an 800Mhz to 1Ghz plant. Problem is people would flip because they would need a box. However, if cable were to implement the Terrapix system, they could convert back to analog at the demarc point. There are alot of options out there. I personally like the way satellite does it with a fixed line up and reserved channels in the 0-100 tier for OTA/locals. Cable could do the same thing.
The cost of putting up an additional satellite or two versus upgrading plants, cutting analog, forcing stb usage, or implementing a new delivery system makes cable investment a far more costly undertaking than satellite investment.

I was saying it could be easily done as far as eliminating the analogs, the implementation is a whole other story. I didn't say it would be easy or (feasible) in some markets, but it could be done. It would be much easier if third party cable boxes were available at retail outlets. Anyway, they already have the delivery system. It would simply be a matter of eliminating analog channels to open up the bandwidth for additional digitals. I think it could be done, but where they would have massive backlash is over the cable boxes because every set would need one unless they adopted the Terrapix system (Residential Gateway then no forced set tops) to homes with multiple outlets. As we discuss it, MSO's are in the process of doing it. Within a few years you will see the gradual demise of analog. How many markets are already dropping analog channels in order to move them into the digital tiers? It is happening, I just wish it would happen faster.

Then why is it I get ESPN News HD but not ESPNU HD both of which are on the digital tier to which I do not subscribe?
Because ESPN-News is available in HD and you are subscribed to the SD version. ESPNU-HD is not available to anyone on your system (correct?). When it is added you should get it if you get ESPNU-SD. /Dan

I subscribe to this tier but am not getting ESPNU HD. I get a message that says to order this channel call.

BONUS WITH BASIC CABLE SUBSCRIPTION
AND HD CONVERTER
833 HDTV - The learning chanel
834 HDTV - HGTV
835 HDTV - FOOD
836 HDTV - lmn
837 hdtv - history
838 hdtv - TBS
839 HDTV - CNN
840 HDTV - TNT
841 HDTV - PALLADIA
842 HDTV - A&E
843 hdtv - golf/versus
844 HDTV - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
845 HDTV - HD THEATER
846 HDTV - Discovery Chanel
847 HDTV - Disney Chanel
848 HDTV - Science chanel
849 HDTV - animal planet
850 HDTV - ABC Family
851 Hdtv - planet gren
950 HDTV - ESPN
951 HDTV - ESPN 2
952 HDTV - ESPNU
953 HDTV - ESpnews

I subscribe to this tier but am not getting ESPNU HD. I get a message that says to order this channel call.

BONUS WITH BASIC CABLE SUBSCRIPTION
AND HD CONVERTER
833 HDTV - The learning chanel
834 HDTV - HGTV
835 HDTV - FOOD
836 HDTV - lmn
837 hdtv - history
838 hdtv - TBS
839 HDTV - CNN
840 HDTV - TNT
841 HDTV - PALLADIA
842 HDTV - A&E
843 hdtv - golf/versus
844 HDTV - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
845 HDTV - HD THEATER
846 HDTV - Discovery Chanel
847 HDTV - Disney Chanel
848 HDTV - Science chanel
849 HDTV - animal planet
850 HDTV - ABC Family
851 Hdtv - planet gren
950 HDTV - ESPN
951 HDTV - ESPN 2
952 HDTV - ESPNU
953 HDTV - ESpnews

Do you get ESPNU SD?

Do you get ESPNU SD?

No. Neither do I get ESPN News SD. I do get ESPN News HD.

Charlotte, NC (September 23, 2008) – Get ready sports fans! Beginning this Thursday, September 25, 2008, more college sports coverage is coming to the Time Warner Cable lineup. The Big Ten Network (BTN) will be available to Time Warner Cable digital converter customers with the Sports & Games Tier. The Big Ten Network will also be available in High Definition. A digital converter is required to receive the channels.

Big Ten Network is a 24-hr channel consisting of primarily of Big Ten Conference sporting events and sports programming, as well as an amount of ancillary programming related to the Big Ten Conference member universities, their students, communities and alumni. Coverage includes live telecasts of football, basketball, baseball and Olympic sports. Universities in the Big Ten Conference are Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Northwestern.

The Big Ten Network is available on the following channels:

o S. Carolina – 148(SD); 956(HD)
o Greensboro – 189(SD); 571(HD)
o Charlotte – 136(SD); 288(HD)
+ (Statesville/Iredell – 425(SD); 719(HD)
o Raleigh – 323(SD); 287(HD)
o Wilmington – 135(SD); 954(HD)

No. Neither do I get ESPN News SD. I do get ESPN News HD.well that's just freakin arbitrary.

Welcome to TimeWarner, lol.

well that's just freakin arbitrary.

Welcome to TimeWarner, lol.

They refreshed my signal twice and scheduled a tech visit. It will be interesting to see what he has to say because I do not think there are any box or wiring problems whatsoever.

Bright House and TW usually have similar carriage agreements for channels, right? Because Engadget is reporting that BH has added FX-HD (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/25/bright-house-networks-adds-lifetime-movies-hd-fx-hd-in-tampa/) to its Tampa system. Could that mean that an agreement with TW could be close/done?

Bright House and TW usually have similar carriage agreements for channels, right? Because Engadget is reporting that BH has added FX-HD (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/25/bright-house-networks-adds-lifetime-movies-hd-fx-hd-in-tampa/) to its Tampa system. Could that mean that an agreement with TW could be close/done?

Could be so, let's wait for a TWC division to add it before we jump on it.

Flipping through the on-screen program guide, I noticed that TW Desert Cities added three new channels today:

Discovery Channel HD
Animal Planet HD
CNN-HD

CNN is fine, but I can think of lots of channels that would have been preferable to those other two.

FX HD possibly being added is good news. According to the Cleveland Ohio HDTV thread, letters have been going out from TWC Northeast Ohio about SDV. SDV is supposed to begin in NE Ohio on 10/20/08. It seems that the letters have only gone to Tivo viewers, probably since they must give them notice because of the situation with cable cards and SDV. There are supposed to be around 90 or more channels on the SDV list, so I'd assume there will be HD channels added in the near future.

San Diego that use to have adelphia get 2 more HD channels. Disney HD and Science HD. Hopefully San Diego can add those HD channels plus a couple of others. Food Network HD and HGTV HD have yet to be added to the TWC network that's non adelphia. They did add TLC HD and Animal Planet HD via SDV. I'm sure the new HD channels will be SDV to conserve bandwidth. Time Warner was rumoring of reclaiming the expanded basic tier to get even more bandwidth. The very basic tier will likely stay analog unless they need the extra bandwidth. TWC San Diego is very behind in HD channel coverage yet other TWC areas get even more than us.

The Raleigh NC division got letters indicating SDV would be activiated 9/13/08. So far nothing has changed.

"DarkUFO" needs to start a rumor and spoiler thread for TWC. I swear these guys hold their cards closer than the producers of "Lost".

Flipping through the on-screen program guide, I noticed that TW Desert Cities added three new channels today:

Discovery Channel HD
Animal Planet HD
CNN-HD

CNN is fine, but I can think of lots of channels that would have been preferable to those other two.Like what? Other than FX, USA, and Sci-fi (stations which TWC doesn't have agreements for), I can't think of many other HD stations with actual HD content on them...

Like what? Other than FX, USA, and Sci-fi (stations which TWC doesn't have agreements for), I can't think of many other HD stations with actual HD content on them...


off the top of my head:

ESPNNews-HD
ESPNU-HD
whatever local Fox Sports channel each market has
GAME-HD and TEAM-HD - the HD channels that should go with pay sports packages like MLB Extra Innings, NHL Centre Ice, etc.
SHOWTIME, CINEMAX, etc - HD
Disney-HD
ABCFamily-HD
NHL Network-HD

and thats just off the top of my head without my thought..i'm sure there's more

Earlier this week the sound via my cablecard stopped working for CNN-HD, A&E-HD and TBS-HD. The picture remains perfect and sound continues to work on all other HD stations. Everything works as usual via the DVR. After sending a tech and replacing the cablecard TW determined, of course, that chagnes are being made at the head-end. In fact they were able to re-enable the sound on CNN and then turn it off again. The problem persists.

I'll post an update when I know more.

Bernie

off the top of my head:

ESPNNews-HD
ESPNU-HD
whatever local Fox Sports channel each market has
GAME-HD and TEAM-HD - the HD channels that should go with pay sports packages like MLB Extra Innings, NHL Centre Ice, etc.
SHOWTIME, CINEMAX, etc - HD
Disney-HD
ABCFamily-HD
NHL Network-HD

and thats just off the top of my head without my thought..i'm sure there's moreThat's a good selection. I'd add Fox News and Fox Business.

That's a good selection. I'd add Fox News and Fox Business.

I wouldn't. FOX Business News is a hemorrhage when it comes to wasting bandwidth. I say the exact same about CNBC HD. FOX "News" HD? Wouldn't that induce seizures?:D;):D

Now, what I would like to see along with ESPN News and ESPNU would be the real HD simulcast of Discovery(not the stupid 'HD Theater' channel). I'd also like to see National Geographic HD, Animal Planet, Spike TV, FX, AMC, Speed and MHD. As well as the multicast channels of HBO.

And I also have to give a big NO to the GAME/TEAM channels. On an extremely limited bandwidth system like cable, there's no reason why they should waste bandwidth on channels few people subscribe to. Unless they're extremely compressed and packed in.

And I also have to give a big NO to the GAME/TEAM channels. On an extremely limited bandwidth system like cable, there's no reason why they should waste bandwidth on channels few people subscribe to. Unless they're extremely compressed and packed in.

But isn't that the point of SDV? Once SDV is implemented, there should not be bandwidth issues.

One other thing- Its true that GAME/TEAM-HD channels have lower viewership than other channels however people are paying extra for those premium packages. Time Warner charges the same amount for the MLB/NBA/NHL/NCAA packages as satellite providers do, yet satellite offers those HD feeds. You want the same money from me, I expect the same product in return.

But isn't that the point of SDV? Once SDV is implemented, there should not be bandwidth issues.

True - there is no longer a bandwidth issue now that most of the systems have SDV. Cable is not 'extremely bandwidth limited' in and way - it has many times the bandwidth of the AT&T Uverse system. It is just that the way the bandwidth was being used under the old paradigm was inefficient. SDV resolves that.

xnappo

True - there is no longer a bandwidth issue now that most of the systems have SDV. Cable is not 'extremely bandwidth limited' in and way - it has many times the bandwidth of the AT&T Uverse system. It is just that the way the bandwidth was being used under the old paradigm was inefficient. SDV resolves that.

xnappo

And if they were to streamline their analog offering it would free up that much more room. I'm all for going to an all digital system *IF* they can do so and implement a low cost set top or residential gateway (D/A Converter). Going all digital would solve a ton of issues I see on my system like grainy/wavey pictures, analog ingress and AC hum. I would think it would even work if they just lowered the box rental from the $7 it is to $3 in order to under cut sat or even $5 to compete directly. The gains would be worth it for the overall product. Even if they offered a cheapo box with no EPG. There are options to look into because sooner or later cable companies are going to make the switch anyway.

And if they were to streamline their analog offering it would free up that much more room. I'm all for going to an all digital system *IF* they can do so and implement a low cost set top or residential gateway (D/A Converter). Going all digital would solve a ton of issues I see on my system like grainy/wavey pictures, analog ingress and AC hum. I would think it would even work if they just lowered the box rental from the $7 it is to $3 in order to under cut sat or even $5 to compete directly. The gains would be worth it for the overall product. Even if they offered a cheapo box with no EPG. There are options to look into because sooner or later cable companies are going to make the switch anyway.

There are more and more "all digital" systems, Comcast seems to be more aggressive than TWC. The set top boxes they deploy are IR receivers with no customer interface on the box itself. They are small and unobtrusive, are addressable, and have interactivity, including program guide.

The BEST solution would be to mirror the broadcast TV solution. The cable operator should, where possible, ONLY carry the HD version of each channel and let the set top box downconvert the output to 480i when necessary. Let the customer choose his aspect ratio, either letterboxed or cropped, and be done with it. Once you go "all digital" there is no need to simulcast anything.

Then the basic channels could be presented in clear QAM for viewing WITHOUT a set top box.

Gateway devices which recontruct analog channels have, from what I've seen, pretty shoddy looking video. There are other significant limitations. I believe the benefits of having interactivity at each set location certainly outways the benefits of using an built in tuner and the digital conversion at the set is indeed the best solution.

I have a cable card on one of my sets, and the inability to access a guide I find is a very annoying deficiency. I would prefer full access to all the programming and features available, but just can't justify the expense of an addtional HD set top rental.

Another comment on bandwidth efficiency and SDV. SDV only works when it is statistically consistent with customer viewing habits and the depth of cable plant segmentation. If there is too little bandwidth allocated to a service area, and there are more viewers demanding more different viewing options that the bandwidth can support, well then you'll get the dreaded "try again later" screen. The more features such as "start over", "on demand", and non-linear channels they offer, and the larger the number of interactive set tops in a household, the smaller the tethered service areas must become.

That's why I feel like an all digital solution is in the cards, and once the "analog" broadcast requirement ends in 2012, I think we'll see it as the preffered solution.

There are more and more "all digital" systems, Comcast seems to be more aggressive than TWC. The set top boxes they deploy are IR receivers with no customer interface on the box itself. They are small and unobtrusive, are addressable, and have interactivity, including program guide.

The BEST solution would be to mirror the broadcast TV solution. The cable operator should, where possible, ONLY carry the HD version of each channel and let the set top box downconvert the output to 480i when necessary. Let the customer choose his aspect ratio, either letterboxed or cropped, and be done with it. Once you go "all digital" there is no need to simulcast anything.

Then the basic channels could be presented in clear QAM for viewing WITHOUT a set top box.

Gateway devices which recontruct analog channels have, from what I've seen, pretty shoddy looking video. There are other significant limitations. I believe the benefits of having interactivity at each set location certainly outways the benefits of using an built in tuner and the digital conversion at the set is indeed the best solution.

I have a cable card on one of my sets, and the inability to access a guide I find is a very annoying deficiency. I would prefer full access to all the programming and features available, but just can't justify the expense of an addtional HD set top rental.

Another comment on bandwidth efficiency and SDV. SDV only works when it is statistically consistent with customer viewing habits and the depth of cable plant segmentation. If there is too little bandwidth allocated to a service area, and there are more viewers demanding more different viewing options that the bandwidth can support, well then you'll get the dreaded "try again later" screen. The more features such as "start over", "on demand", and non-linear channels they offer, and the larger the number of interactive set tops in a household, the smaller the tethered service areas must become.

That's why I feel like an all digital solution is in the cards, and once the "analog" broadcast requirement ends in 2012, I think we'll see it as the preffered solution.

Terapix is another one of those gateway systems. Does it work? Maybe, Maybe not. You also forgot DCAS. DCAS is the proposed replacement for Cablecard. This would just get the security of a secure network. It would be like having a virtual cablecard. DCAS does have it's hurdle. Then we could have cable ready TV's that you just plug in the TV into the coax and you're good to go.

Also Time Warner is looking at going all digital for San Diego. Well just the expanded basic tier. The first 22 channels will be analog. Will offer a ton of bandwidth for more HD and other interesting features.

Terapix is another one of those gateway systems. Does it work? Maybe, Maybe not. You also forgot DCAS. DCAS is the proposed replacement for Cablecard. This would just get the security of a secure network. It would be like having a virtual cablecard. DCAS does have it's hurdle. Then we could have cable ready TV's that you just plug in the TV into the coax and you're good to go.

TWC in my market actually has an all-digital backbone and reconstructs analog at the node (transition point between fiber and coax). The analog channels look terrible as compared to what they would look like if they were analog throughout the chain.

DCAS and OCAP solutions are certainly in play. They will not in the short term have much impact on what cable operators do to manage bandwidth.

The long term goal is to minimize truck rolls. If the drop is allowed to remain "hot", and the customer merely connects a TV to an active outlet, and navigates through a subscription setup menu, well there you have it. But ALL programming at that point needs to be secured. Bye Bye Clear QAM.:(:(:(

But isn't that the point of SDV? Once SDV is implemented, there should not be bandwidth issues.

One other thing- Its true that GAME/TEAM-HD channels have lower viewership than other channels however people are paying extra for those premium packages. Time Warner charges the same amount for the MLB/NBA/NHL/NCAA packages as satellite providers do, yet satellite offers those HD feeds. You want the same money from me, I expect the same product in return.

If they can add them without wasting bandwidth, then I'd say go for it. Those sound like the perfect channels for SDV, since they do not have many viewers.

My area is supposed to begin SDV on October 20, so I am going to be watching for new channels or if anything else changes.

Take it from someone who has had SDV since they began. Any HD channel that is added once SDV is implemented will be switched. We have dozens of switched channels (not just HD). Still, there are still quite a few HD channels with agreements that have not been added.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/SouthCarolina/products/HDTVAvailableChannels.html

San Diego is getting even more SDV channels. Versus/Golf HD, Starz HD, Cinemax HD, Lifetime Movie Net HD, Fox Sports HD, and National Geographic HD. Changes take effect on October 27th. Later in November the Cisco tuning resolvers will be released. They will require a truckroll.

I guess I'm uninformed, but once SDV is implemented in an area, I'm not sure why EVERY single HD channel that TWC has an agreement with is not available.

If they have a signed agreement, and SDV allowed for basically unlimited bandwidth...what am I missing?

Didn't see this said yet..

but here in Dayton, Ohio, we've never had NBC HD, but we've had NBC SD. They are removing the NBC SD feed here in dayton soon so we won't even have NBC at all in dayton, ohio on TWC. :(

Didn't see this said yet..

but here in Dayton, Ohio, we've never had NBC HD, but we've had NBC SD. They are removing the NBC SD feed here in dayton soon so we won't even have NBC at all in dayton, ohio on TWC. :(

Welcome to the wonderful world of retransmission extortion! Broadcast companies are getting bolder now using the HD signal as leverage and with no competition via exclusive DMA rights TWC is barred from importing a neighboring NBA affiliate. It's unfortunate that it has come to this, being charged more for free programming.

I guess I'm uninformed, but once SDV is implemented in an area, I'm not sure why EVERY single HD channel that TWC has an agreement with is not available.

If they have a signed agreement, and SDV allowed for basically unlimited bandwidth...what am I missing?

They pay for it when they add it to the lineup not when they have an agreement.

I guess I'm uninformed, but once SDV is implemented in an area, I'm not sure why EVERY single HD channel that TWC has an agreement with is not available.

If they have a signed agreement, and SDV allowed for basically unlimited bandwidth...what am I missing?
I can think of at least two things.....

1. Must procure MPEG4 to MPEG2 Transcoders for some new HD channels, plus
whatever additional Satellite downlink & demod equipment is needed:
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=127163&site=cdn
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=155405&site=cdn
http://www.cable360.net/ct/strategy/businesscases/23790.html

2. Thus far on TWC-SD, they've been stealing capacity from existing VOD channels.
To minimize "Sorry, Try Again Later" alerts, at some point they will have to actually DROP SOMETHING.
For example, although HDNET/HDMOV are SDV for STB/DVRs, CableCARD DTVs watch the non-SDV QAM carrier.

Tuning Adapter ONLY placates a few viewers using TiVo Ser3/HD and does NOTHING for more numerous CableCARD DTVs....
Nonetheless, maybe they're waiting for Tuning Adapter before they convert any more existing channels to SDV.

TWC-SD already notified TiVo/CC HDTV owners re losing some channels.....still waiting for the change....
And the wails of anger when customers are forced to use a cable box with their CableCARD DTVs to watch some
HD and some Premium channels.

Note that it is possible to convert some HD and Premium Channels (say 3-6 QAM carriers) to SHARED SDV QAMs
(thereby reducing frequency of "Sorry, Try Again Later") without necessarily affecting Extended Analog Tier....

San Diego is getting even more SDV channels. Versus/Golf HD, Starz HD, Cinemax HD, Lifetime Movie Net HD, Fox Sports HD, and National Geographic HD. Changes take effect on October 27th. Later in November the Cisco tuning resolvers will be released. They will require a truckroll.

Why on earth would this require a truck roll?:confused:

Odds are strong that the average Tivo S3/HD customer knows as much about CableCards and SDV as the average TWC contractor or field technician.

Take it from someone who has had SDV since they began. Any HD channel that is added once SDV is implemented will be switched. We have dozens of switched channels (not just HD). Still, there are still quite a few HD channels with agreements that have not been added.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/SouthCarolina/products/HDTVAvailableChannels.html

I really, really hate to sound like an idiot, but even with SDV that is all the HD channels TWC has? Out of that list, there are only about 5-7 channels I actually want(ESPNU/ESPN News, National Geographic, CNN, Discovery, Animal, TLC, MHD). I have no clue what etv is, probably wouldn't like it. Planet Green HD sounds atrocious and a huge waste of bandwidth(even on SDV). And I could really give a rat's ass about LMN, Disney and ABC Family.

I was really hoping for something better, like FX HD. That and the very much wanted NBC/Universal package including USA HD and SCIFI HD.

But I guess it's a start!

Why on earth would this require a truck roll?:confused:

Odds are strong that the average Tivo S3/HD customer knows as much about CableCards and SDV as the average TWC contractor or field technician.

No idea but maybe it has to do with the unit being tied to the cablecards. Thats what a person with authority in Austin, TX says.

I really, really hate to sound like an idiot, but even with SDV that is all the HD channels TWC has? Out of that list, there are only about 5-7 channels I actually want

What one person wants is irrelevant. Plenty of us like the lineup. It was only 4 1/2 years ago when we had 2 HDTV channels.

what one person wants is irrelevant. Plenty of us like the lineup.

+1

I wouldn't. FOX Business News is a hemorrhage when it comes to wasting bandwidth. I say the exact same about CNBC HD. FOX "News" HD? Wouldn't that induce seizures?:D;):D Fine. If you want to talk like that, you'll get the response you deserve. That is, none.

What is amazing is the arrogance that given capacity, negotiated agreements and other constraints that a channel lineup should be exactly the way one person wants it.

What is amazing is the arrogance that given capacity, negotiated agreements and other constraints that a channel lineup should be exactly the way one person wants it.

It is. I'm changing my position on "paying for services YOU want" more an more. Once the capacity is there and the provider makes the deals with the networks, we should be allowed to choose which channels we want. If I want FX, USA, SCIFI, MSNBC and CNN; and they are available from the provider, I should be able to choose them. And if someone else wants FOX News and Planet Green, and those channels are available from the provider, then the should be able to choose them.

Also, if I DON'T want FOX News and Planet Green, then I SHOULD be able to choose NOT to get them. And NOT to have to pay for that crap.

I find it arrogant that someone would want a NICHE channel like FOX Business News to be added ahead of better networks like FX HD or even the NBC Universal networks like USA and SCIFI. And before you pull out that political card(I know how those people are) I would be EQUALLY pissed if TWC wanted to add CNBC HD. BOTH of these channels are essentially glorified PPV barker channels, with an audio track and video inserted above. Why that needs HD or anything above 480i widescreen is beyond me.

Hey, maybe TWC will add FBN HD just in time for me to watch the markets really crash and burn. And see Neal Cavuto attempt to downplay the severity of the situation. :D:p

It is. I'm changing my position on "paying for services YOU want" more an more. Once the capacity is there and the provider makes the deals with the networks, we should be allowed to choose which channels we want. If I want FX, USA, SCIFI, MSNBC and CNN; and they are available from the provider, I should be able to choose them. And if someone else wants FOX News and Planet Green, and those channels are available from the provider, then the should be able to choose them.

Also, if I DON'T want FOX News and Planet Green, then I SHOULD be able to choose NOT to get them. And NOT to have to pay for that crap.
Chances are, if you want a-la-carte, you'll find that eventually you'll end up just paying the same price but get less channels (but gee-willikers they'll be the 40 channels that you really really want!)

What is amazing is the arrogance that given capacity, negotiated agreements and other constraints that a channel lineup should be exactly the way one person wants it.

What's amazing when someone truly believes it is arrogant to want my own lineup - corporate mindwashing at its best, seriously.

Chances are, if you want a-la-carte, you'll find that eventually you'll end up just paying the same price but get less channels (but gee-willikers they'll be the 40 channels that you really really want!)

But that's just because corporations will never allow you to pay LESS - if pricing would anything to do with their cost+profit then we would pay a LOT LESS.

FYI: their internet bandwidth costs is the best example how unscrupulous liars they are - they keep figting net neutrality only to keep their profit, citing bandwidth costs when it's documented they have over 1000% markup on bandwidth when you are subscribing for their internet service.

Cable companies are the worst kind of monopolies: they have their own service area carved out, no competition and no oversight whatsoever.:mad:

Bear in mind if you check history the poster is on a constant corporate/government conspiracy rant. ;)

I wouldn't. FOX Business News is a hemorrhage when it comes to wasting bandwidth. I say the exact same about CNBC HD. FOX "News" HD? Wouldn't that induce seizures?:D;):D


Politics (or perceived bias) aside, Fox News is by far the cable news channel with the most viewers. Why would they NOT want that?

Also, CNBC doesn't have huge viewership but they have very loyal viewership that has lots of money, so their ad time sells.


Now, what I would like to see along with ESPN News and ESPNU would be the real HD simulcast of Discovery(not the stupid 'HD Theater' channel). I'd also like to see National Geographic HD, Animal Planet, Spike TV, FX, AMC, Speed and MHD. As well as the multicast channels of HBO.


Here in Austin on TWC, we get most of what's on your list. DSCHD (along with DSC Theater), NGEO, ANI, AMC, and MHD (which is now called Palladia or something like that).


And I also have to give a big NO to the GAME/TEAM channels. On an extremely limited bandwidth system like cable, there's no reason why they should waste bandwidth on channels few people subscribe to. Unless they're extremely compressed and packed in.

These are big money makers for the cable people.

Politics (or perceived bias) aside, Fox News is by far the cable news channel with the most viewers. Why would they NOT want that?


If I said why, it would be considered political.:D:D I think you can infer why. Just because something has alot of viewers doesn't automatically make it good. American Idol has way more viewers that 'Arrested Development' did. Does that make AI better? Dancing With the Stars has more viewers than Nature on PBS. Does that make Dancing better? I'd say not in both cases. Same goes for FNC.

And for the record, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

If I said why, it would be considered political.:D:D I think you can infer why. Just because something has alot of viewers doesn't automatically make it good. American Idol has way more viewers that 'Arrested Development' did. Does that make AI better? Dancing With the Stars has more viewers than Nature on PBS. Does that make Dancing better? I'd say not in both cases. Same goes for FNC.

And for the record, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

And for the record, the world doesn't revolve around A/V geeks.

But that's just because corporations will never allow you to pay LESS - if pricing would anything to do with their cost+profit then we would pay a LOT LESS.

FYI: their internet bandwidth costs is the best example how unscrupulous liars they are - they keep figting net neutrality only to keep their profit, citing bandwidth costs when it's documented they have over 1000% markup on bandwidth when you are subscribing for their internet service.
You're preaching to the converted. I'm fully aware of their high profit margins. But reality aint gonna change. They're charging $50/mo for cable, and there's no way that they're going to give up their carriage bargaining position, take on additional administrative costs, and cut income to implement a-la-carte. If you go a-la-carte, they're going to charge $2+/channel.

Cable companies are the worst kind of monopolies: they have their own service area carved out, no competition and no oversight whatsoever.:mad:Thank your local municipality for that! They're the ones who gave away those monopoly rights

I have CNN HD and I love it, but I'll really be in television pig heaven when TWC adds FOX HD, MSNBC HD, CNBC HD and CNN Headline HD. I love them all.

And for the record, the world doesn't revolve around A/V geeks.

Then you clicked on the WRONG forum. This is the AV Science Forum, it's population is AV 'geeks'(meant in a good way).

The exit is located at the top of the screen in the form of a red "X". Try the "Bright, Pretty Colors Entertain Me" forum. :p

I have CNN HD and I love it, but I'll really be in television pig heaven when TWC adds FOX HD, MSNBC HD, CNBC HD and CNN Headline HD. I love them all.

Actually you'll be in people heaven by the time TWC adds all of those.:D:D:D

All I hope is when MOJO-HD comes to an end they add another HD channel to the lineup.

Is MOJO-HD going away?

Our local CBS is in a fight with TW over wanting to be paid for their signal.

Has anyone had this happen with TW in their area and what was the outcome?

Did they pull the station, or was a last minute deal reached?

Our local CBS is in a fight with TW over wanting to be paid for their signal.

Has anyone had this happen with TW in their area and what was the outcome?

Did they pull the station, or was a last minute deal reached?

This is now commonplace. Free Over The Air broadcasters are using exclusive DMA rights to demand cash for carriage. WKTV in Utica, NY is doing this (Smith Media)over the carriage of their HD signal and LIN TV is currently embattled with Time Warner over carriage. It's a bunch of crap as far as I'm concerned. These are freely distributed signals and it shouldn't matter how viewers get them either via cable or antenna. Cable carriage benefits the station in many ways by reaching people who can't get the signal OTA as well as giving the station greater market penetration. How many people do you know still using antennas as compared to cable? A friend of mine summed it up best when I told him he'd have to get an antenna to watch NBC in HD. He simply stated "What is this, 1950!"

A friend of mine summed it up best when I told him he'd have to get an antenna to watch NBC in HD. He simply stated "What is this, 1950!"

TWC Austin is also fighting with LIN right now over our local NBC affiliate.

LIN is actively advertising DISH - I wonder if they are getting money from DISH?

LIN's side:
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?s=9009224

TWC's side:
http://www.thetruthhurtskxan.com/main.php

xnappo

TWC Austin is also fighting with LIN right now over our local NBC affiliate.

LIN is actively advertising DISH - I wonder if they are getting money from DISH?

LIN's side:
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?s=9009224

TWC's side:
http://www.thetruthhurtskxan.com/main.php

xnappo

Well, the broadcasters have never made a good argument to basically extort money from the cable providers in my book. Cable providers have their hands tied because they either "must carry" the local or have to deal with a retransmission agreement. The deck is stacked because there is not competition between markets. The broadcaster like to paint a picture that the cable company makes big money off the channel which is bunk. Cable companies are forced to carry locals at specific levels of service. IE: basic. TWC in my market gets $12 a month for a basic sub which seems perfectly reasonable to me for providing the service to my home. What's next? The broadcasters are going to demand money from antenna installers because they are getting a signal to me as well?

added on ch 563

I'll get excited when the add USA HD (and KEEP it), Fx HD and Sci-Fi HD as well as give us better guide and channel alignment. Until then, I am still looking at DirecTV. If the DirecTivo drops and has the missing features I want, they will get my business! All they need is a PIP capable unit with 2 sat plus 1 built in ota recording capability and dual live buffers. It shouldn't be hard to do considering Dish already has the technology. The other option is if Dish adds the programming options that DirecTV has as far as VOD then I'll look at them. TWC has some time to get me a working (stable) version of Navigator and the missing HD networks .... for now!

It's a LIN station here too - I guess I'll get my answer tomorrow morning.

I'll get excited when the add USA HD (and KEEP it), Fx HD and Sci-Fi HD as well as give us better guide and channel alignment. Until then, I am still looking at DirecTV. If the DirecTivo drops and has the missing features I want, they will get my business! All they need is a PIP capable unit with 2 sat plus 1 built in ota recording capability and dual live buffers. It shouldn't be hard to do considering Dish already has the technology. The other option is if Dish adds the programming options that DirecTV has as far as VOD then I'll look at them. TWC has some time to get me a working (stable) version of Navigator and the missing HD networks .... for now!

Trust me, you don't want Navigator!!! I too am waiting for a working (stable) version of Navigator. :D

I'd give a kidney(or two:p) just to get SARA instead.

I'd give a soul to get that new version of Passport that supports SDV! ;)

twc New England adds tennis channel hd

The Tennis Channel-HD added to post #1

Hi, I have a Samsung LA46550 and I'm trying to set up the picture in picture but I'm having a little trouble. The second source I'm getting has awful reception when I was under the impression I could even get HD.

1) Time Warner Cable goes to splitter.
2) From there VHF cables goes to TV, UHF cable goes to cable box which is connected to the TV through an HDMI cable.

The channels on from the cable box look great, however when I do the PIP the channels from the cable look awful and the ones over around channel 40 are borderline unwatchable. I used the STD to auto program, and I don't know if I should have used IRC or HRC. I think I can receive the digital cable through my TV because it has a QAM tuner. Shouldn't some of the channels be coming in with HD?

Is this a problem with my cables or something I did with the TV or should I just call the cable company?

Thanks.

These are freely distributed signals and it shouldn't matter how viewers get them either via cable or antenna.

Well ... yes you can get the signal using an antenna, but you probably don't. Time Warner repackages and redistributes the signal and charges a fee. You're not allowed to duplicate copyrighted material and resell it ... and neither is Time Warner. The broadcasters have a right to charge Time Warner for their content and they shouldn't be faulted for exercising their legal rights.

But, it's a sticky situation, because the broadcasters' revenue comes from advertising based upon the number of viewers they have. So ... if the local cable providers did not carry the broadcasters' signals, then the number of viewers would plummet and so would the advertising revenue.

That's why the law was written in such a way as to encourage carriage of all local stations without infringing on the broadcasters' copyrights. It's a symbiotic relationship between the broadcasters and the cable providers.

Besides, the amount of money per subscriber that a broadcaster would "extort" is mere pennies, not likely to increase your cable bill much. It seems to me more a battle of principles.

Yes, but for years cable has granted other concessions for compensation. IE: channel placement, carriages of sub channels, ad time, etc. I can debunk every argument the broadcasters make. You have to remember that they operate on free government granted spectrum paid for by the taxpayers with the expectation that they serve the public. I'm not going to get into a big debate here as it was done before in another thread. I just feel that carriage is vital to their existence, both on cable and sat. They should recognize that.

I think I just figured out what Time Warner meant when it said 100 HD channels by the end of the year. One new channel on each of 100 systems. I guess our one channel was Big Ten Network. Too bad we aren't in the Big Ten Conference.

Since DirecTV inflates their HD number you can expect all other providers to follow suit. DirecTV still remains the leader, but the 130 figure is just marketing hype.

Is MOJO-HD going away?

MOJO HD gets canceled, should vanish by year's end

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/02/mojo-hd-gets-canceled-should-vanish-by-months-end/

How many times have we heard about TWC going to switched digital and adding a bunch of HD channels? Lots. What do we in the Triangle get? One. One lousy channel that I will personally never watch (though I'm sure there are some in the area who will love it). I'm sooooo ready for U-verse.

On another note, I e-mailed their useless customer service and asked about channel additions. Nothing but the usual bs. No answers at all. Really pathetic.

I doubt they are done with the SDV. Here in WNY they added about 20 channels in the last month since finishing.

SDV works and depending on your network you should see more channels. We have about 50 HD channels in CNY.

Oceanic launches 4 HD channels

Oceanic Time Warner Cable said this week it will launch four new high-definition premium channels on Monday. The new channels, which will be available on Oahu and Kauai, will include Hallmark Movie Channel HD on digital Channel 1453, Fox Business HD on digital Channel 1108, Big Ten HD on digital Channel 1248, and the Travel Channel HD on digital Channel 1325.

http://www.starbulletin.com/business/businessbriefs/20081003_Business_Briefs.html

Time to update the first post.

Lots of HD news coming from TWC NY/NJ

The following changes are planned for customers in Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens & Mt. Vernon:

The previously announced drop of MOJO (ch. 796) on October 1st has been postponed.

Effective October 22nd in Brooklyn and Queens: We will provide additional channel positions for existing services, specifically: HBO HD will be added to 651, Cinemax HD to 658, Showtime HD to 666, TMC HD to 674, and Starz HD will be added to 676. In these areas we will also launch the following HD services: Cartoon Network HD on 722, FX HD on 737, and Speed HD on 774.

In Brooklyn, Queens, and Mount Vernon we will also launch the following HD services: Big Ten Network HD on 472, CBS College Sports HD on 467, ESPNU HD on 793, and Tennis Channel HD on 465. Big Ten Network HD, CBS College Sports HD, and Tennis Channel HD will be a part of Sports Tier. We will also launch the following premium HD services: HBO2 HD on 652, HBO Signature HD on 653, HBO Family HD on 654, HBO Comedy HD on 655, HBO Zone HD on 656, HBO Latino HD on 657, More MAX HD on 659, Action MAX HD on 660, Thriller MAX HD on 661, WMAX HD on 662, @MAX HD on 663, Five Star MAX HD on 664, OuterMAX HD on 665, Showtime Showcase HD on 668, SHO Extreme HD on 669, TMC HD on 647, and TMC Xtra HD on 675.

In Mount Vernon: We will temporarily provide additional channel positions for existing services, specifically: HBO HD will be added to 651, Cinemax HD 658, Showtime HD to 666, and Starz HD will be added to 676. We will launch the additional premium HD services: Showtime 2 HD on 667, Showtime Showcase on 668, Starz Edge HD on 677, Starz Kids & Family HD on 678, and Starz Comedy HD on 681. We will also launch the following HD services: Cartoon Network on 776, Discovery HD on 774, Fox Business News HD on 728, Fox News HD on 731, FX HD on 738, TLC HD on 751, Palladia HD on 727, Travel Channel HD on 763, Weather Channel HD on 736, ESPN News HD on 792, and NHL Network HD on 795. NHL Network HD will be a part of Sports Tier.

(note - Staten Island gets the same channels as Brooklyn and Queens - no idea why they still list it separately on their website.)

(Manhattan.... gets nothing...)

Is there any progress on working something out with NFL Network??

Is there any progress on working something out with NFL Network??

I haven't heard anything about it. Right now, Time Warner's big issue is with LIN TV over retransmission consent for free broadcast channels.

(note - Staten Island gets the same channels as Brooklyn and Queens - no idea why they still list it separately on their website.)

Actually, S.I. did get one extra channel than Brooklyn and Queens. They will be getting Fuse HD on 691.

Actually, S.I. did get one extra channel than Brooklyn and Queens. They will be getting Fuse HD on 691.

If they are adding that channel, then maybe others from rainbow media will be coming soon like: IFC-HD, AMC-HD & WE-HD

Known Deals Done With TWC, Not Available in All Areas

HD PPV
HD Movies OnDemand
HD Adult OnDemand
HD Showcase OnDemand
HBO-HD
Cinemax-HD
Showtime-HD
Showtime 2-HD
The Movie Channel-HD
Starz-HD
Starz Comedy-HD
Starz Edge-HD
Starz Kids & Family-HD
MGM-HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MOJO
Universal-HD
TNT-HD
TBS-HD
Palladia (MHD)
Food Network-HD
HGTV-HD
A&E-HD
History Channel-HD
Biography-HD
Lifetime Movie Network-HD
Hallmark Movie Channel-HD
CNN-HD
Fox News-HD
Fox Business Network-HD
The Weather Channel-HD
National Geographic-HD
DHDT
The Science Channel-HD
The Discovery Channel-HD
The Learning Channel-HD
Animal Planet-HD
Planet Green-HD
Travel Channel-HD
Disney Channel-HD
ABC Family-HD
Toon Disney-HD
Cartoon Network-HD
FX-HD
Speed-HD
ESPN-HD
ESPN 2-HD
ESPN News-HD
ESPN U-HD
Golf/Versus-HD
Big Ten Network-HD
NBA TV-HD
NHL Network-HD
The Outdoor Channel-HD
CBS College Sports-HD
The Tennis Channel-HD
Game-HD (MLB Extra Innings & NHL Center Ice in HD)
Team-HD (NBA League Pass in HD)
HBO2-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
HBO Family-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
HBO Comedy-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
HBO Signature-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
HBO Zone-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
HBO Latino-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
MoreMax-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
ActionMAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
5StarMAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
ThrillerMAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
WMAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
@MAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
OuterMAX-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
ShowCase-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
ShowExtreme-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
TMCxtra-HD --- (Coming Soon to Bklyn, Qns & S.I)
FUSE-HD --- (Coming Soon to S.I)
Encore-HD --- (Coming Soon to S.I)
Sleuth-HD --- (Has the rights to, Channel Launching in 2008)
MLB Network-HD --- (Has the rights to, Channel Launching in January 2009)



Negotiations Known In Progress With TWC

NFL Network-HD
MavTV-HD
IFC-HD
AMC-HD
WE-HD
Sci-Fi-HD
Bravo-HD
USA-HD
CNBC-HD
MSNBC-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 of 2008)
Chiller-HD --- (Channel Launching in October 2008)



Negotiations Unknown With TWC

Rave-HD
Equator-HD
Gallery-HD
Animania-HD
Rush-HD
Ultra-HD
Monsters-HD
HD News
Film Fest-HD
Kung Fu-HD
WorldSport-HD
World Cinema-HD
Gameplay-HD
Family Room-HD
Treasure-HD
TBN-HD
RFD-HD
QVC-HD
World Fishing Network-HD
Wealth TV-HD
WGN-HD
Lifetime Television-HD
Smithsonian-HD
Fuel-HD
County Music Channel-HD
Nickelodeon East-HD
MTV-HD
VH1-HD
Spike-HD
Jewlery TV-HD
Golf-HD (Full Time) --- (Channel Launching in December 2008)
Versus-HD (Full Time) --- (Channel Launching in December 2008)
E! Entertainment-HD --- (Channel Launching in December 2008)
Style-HD --- (Channel Launching in December 2008)
G4-HD --- (Channel Launching in December 2008)
BBC America-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
Crime & Investigation-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
TV One-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
SI TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
Cars.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
Pets.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
Comedy.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
MyDestination.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
ES.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
Recipe.TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q4 2008)
ION TV-HD --- (Channel Launching in January 2009)
ShowBeyond-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q1 2009)
ShowWomen-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q1 2009)
ShowFamilyZone-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q1 2009)
ShowNext-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q1 2009)
FLIX-HD --- (Channel Launching in Q1 2009)
HSN-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
OWN-HD (Discovery Health) --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
BTNC-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
Soundtrack Channel-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
Comedy Central-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)
BET-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)
MTV2-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)
TruTV-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)
Headline News-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)
Oxygen-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)

I think a better header would be:

Known Deals Done With TWC, Not Available in Most Areas:rolleyes:

I think a better header would be:

Known Deals Done With TWC, Not Available in Most Areas:rolleyes:


LOL, that is true. Hopefully over the next couple months other systems will come close to 100 channels.

LOL, that is true. Hopefully over the next couple months other systems will come close to 100 channels.

As one of the first areas to get SDV, we still do not have many of the channels listed. During primetime tuning SDV channels is a major challenge. I have to set my dvr to record after midnight to make sure I get a recording. I have a nickname for SDV. Switched Digital Voodoo.:eek:

It seems like I get a new postcard in the mail each month saying they're adding more HD channels, but I have yet to see any changes since last spring.

It seems like I get a new postcard in the mail each month saying they're adding more HD channels, but I have yet to see any changes since last spring.

that's pretty bad. and what is your location?

As one of the first areas to get SDV, we still do not have many of the channels listed. During primetime tuning SDV channels is a major challenge. I have to set my dvr to record after midnight to make sure I get a recording. I have a nickname for SDV. Switched Digital Voodoo.:eek:

yeah it seems that TWC is almost scared to pack 100 HD channels in a system with SDV. The way they have it set up now, it will cause alot of headaches.

yeah it seems that TWC is almost scared to pack 100 HD channels in a system with SDV. The way they have it set up now, it will cause alot of headaches.

And this is where it gets down to statistical modeling. A node (typically 500-1000 homes passed, not subscribers, but potential subscribers, figure 60% take rate) is a discreet service area tethered to the headend by a dedicated fiber circuit. SDV and PPV requested by viewers in that node are added to the feed being delivered to that node. Each node has it's unique programming session.

The number of homes in that node, the number of SDV capable boxes, the number of homes using TV, the number of homes trying to access a PPV, SDV, or other non linear programming are variables that will impact the number of SDV channels it can support in a peak demand time period.

Since most nodes have "dark" fiber running to them, it is relatively simple, (not cheap, but simple) to split nodes into smaller universes to aleviate the demand on bandwidth.

In systems that have gone "all digital", there should be no issues, in fact, I suppose that all channels could be SDV on a all digital system, but Cable Card users would not be happy.

There are many solutions to the bandwidth crunch. The problem is that solutions cost $$$, and last I read, we are all out of $$$.

Exactly why I'm a proponent of cable going all digital and supplying a no/low cost, low end converter box for those who need it. What they would gain in bandwidth would more than make up for it.

Exactly why I'm a proponent of cable going all digital and supplying a no/low cost, low end converter box for those who need it. What they would gain in bandwidth would more than make up for it.

Some sort of all digital solution will be mainsteam in the not to distant future.

TWC San Diego just added the following channels today:

763 - Disney HD
780 - Science HD (not Sci-Fi HD!!!)

Note: these were on the old Adelphia (North County) system that Time-Warner took over. Only today did it propogate to the regular TWC system. Sheesh! What a system! :eek::p:eek::D

Some sort of all digital solution will be mainsteam in the not to distant future.

And once this happens, I will lose my last remaining reason for sticking with cable and make the switch. I *want* my analog tv.

I want my analog too. I had about 15 outlets built in. I can plug into one in the freakin bathroom.

And once this happens, I will lose my last remaining reason for sticking with cable and make the switch. I *want* my analog tv.

you want your analog so you'll switch to what?

I want my analog too. I had about 15 outlets built in. I can plug into one in the freakin bathroom.

I stand by my earlier statement:

All digital is okay, but make the legacy basic cable channels clear QAM.

xnappo

The all digital systems I've seen use a very small converter which has no controls, everything is accessed through the PROGRAMMABLE remote supplied with the unit. It only needs to be able to see the IR signal, otherwise it can remain out of sight.

It gives you much better picture quality, an interactive guide, and you still only need one remote. Why anyone is emotional about their clunky 19" CRT is beyond me. And we should not move forward technical because someone needs to watch QVC in the bathroom on a 13" Orion ??? Analog died in the audio world years ago and will soon die in video. Get over it.

PS, you still can watch your analog VHS tapes if you need an analog fix.

The all digital systems I've seen use a very small converter which has no controls, everything is accessed through the PROGRAMMABLE remote supplied with the unit. It only needs to be able to see the IR signal, otherwise it can remain out of sight.

It gives you much better picture quality, an interactive guide, and you still only need one remote. Why anyone is emotional about their clunky 19" CRT is beyond me. And we should not move forward technical because someone needs to watch QVC in the bathroom on a 13" Orion ??? Analog died in the audio world years ago and will soon die in video. Get over it.

PS, you still can watch your analog VHS tapes if you need an analog fix.

posg, your recent posts have been excellent. Very informative and thought provoking.

you want your analog so you'll switch to what?

If I understand his complaint he understands he won't be able to get analog anywhere else, however, analog may be the only reason Gary is still with cable. It is the only reason I am with cable. Once analog goes away I have no reason to stay with cable and would be likely to switch to DirectTV. I know my parents woud switch to FiOS if Cablevision got rid of analog. Right now, because they don't need a box at every TV they prefer cable over FiOS. If analog went away, the better FiOS service would make the switch worth it if they need boxes everywhere anyway(where as now, analog is more important, since they have a bunch of tv's without boxes). Analog is a competitive advantage for cable.

Alot of people are missing my point from an earlier post. I said cable needed to find a way to go all digital and keep that competitive advantage of the free additional outlets or at the very least keep them low cost. They need to find a way to deploy either small low cost digital to analog converters or use a gateway device for customers who require it. If they could offer an all digital lineup with a very basic converter box (similar to what you need for OTA come Feb. 2009) with a guide and offer a full channel lineup minus premiums, PPV, HD, etc then people would stay. Instead of grabbing $5 a month, charge $1 a month. Plus they wouldn't need truck rolls to deploy boxes because people could pick them up locally and install them on their own if they wanted to. This would allow them to offer an expanded basic lineup with more channels and better picture while not slamming people who have multiple outlets.

It's a reason a lot people choose cable over satellite. If I go with satellite then I have to pay an extra $25 to have service at my extra outlets that I only watch sometimes. Now, if satellite co's were smart, they drop this fee or at least reduce it.

It seems you are all about the providers just dropping fees for stuff. How many subscribers does TWC have? Let's take a wild guess of 30 million x $4 x !2 months, that's $1.44 billion a year. Do you think they can afford that?

It seems you are all about the providers just dropping fees for stuff. How many subscribers does TWC have? Let's take a wild guess of 30 million x $1 x !2 months, that's $360 million a year. Do you think they can afford that?

What's your point? Please clarify what you are trying to say. I think most customers would happily pay TWC an extra buck or two a month for a basic converter that allowed expanded lineup instead of paying $5 or $7 a month to rent an addressable digital set top. If nothing else, TWC would make money off going all digital. The benefit outweigh the negatives for both sides.

TWC San Diego is very interested in going all digital. Well at least the expanded basic tier going all digital. The super basic tier will stay analog. Nearly 55 channels will go to digital which should give TWC San Diego a ton of bandwidth. Not sure on the Ex Adelphia areas that they have. TWC San Diego is probably using a 750 MHz system and hasn't gotten around to updating. Yet some say they have a 1 GHz system but a 750 MHz headend. I say it's a 750 MHz system. They are planning 10 to 15 HD channels which is probably catching up to the other areas. There might even be some new features. Bob Barlow says the new version of navigator will make it to this area by the end of this month. I assume that all new HD channels on TWC SD will likely be on SDV.

posg, your recent posts have been excellent. Very informative and thought provoking.

Thanks. They're not always that way, it just depends on my mood.;);)

I stand by my earlier statement:

All digital is okay, but make the legacy basic cable channels clear QAM.

xnappo


there is no clear HD QAM on our TWCSC SDV system.

The typical cable model is as follows:

1) 5-42 Mhz is the return path for data being transmitted FROM the subsciber to the cable system, this includes your half of a phone conversation, internet requests, uploads, programming requests from your set-top, etc.

2) 54-750 (or 860-1000) Mhz is allocated to transmission TO the subcriber, and typically 54-550 Mhz (channels 2-77) are the analog channels, and the remaining 200+ Mhz is for everything else. Remember each analog channel occupies 6 Mhz of space. That same 6 Mhz can be used to transmit between 10-12 standard def channels, or 2-3 HD channels.

3) SDV/PPV reserves several channels in the 550-750 Mhz range for dynamic rather than fixed programming. If a cable operator used 100 mhz (roughly 16 six Mhz channels) for "fixed" channels, that could provide maybe a mix of 100 SD channels and 20 HD channels. The other 100 Mhz would be "dynamic" and could support 40 or so unique HD programs.

You start to see the problem. Two thirds of the bandwidth is stuck providing 75 stupid analog channels, half of which nobody watches, and you start getting "busy" signals when you try to access a switched video channel, just like in the early days of PPV.

Bottom line is that analog NEEDS to go away, in order for cable operators to risk having the 100 or so HD channels they could have.

I saw a couple of above 750 MHz stations on the San Diego system. They might just have a 1 GHz or even an 860-870 MHz cable system.

Letters about SDV went out to Tivo and cable card users a few weeks back about the switch to SDV on October 20. Also, a list of channels to be broadcast in SDV was included. It's mostly shopping channels and the foreign language channels. It's also odd that the cable news channels like FNC and CNN are included on the SDV list as well.

Existing channels that will be delivered using SDV beginning 10/20/08

1 Movieloft
185 Access TV
186 Shopping
187 Cable Response TV
188 Gems TV
189 America's Auction Network
190 Hollywood Celebrity Products
191 Celebrity Shopping
192 TV Superstore
193 The Jewelry Channel
194 Shoping
281 Sundance
282 Flix
290 Encore
291 Encore Love
292 Encore Mysteries
293 Encore Drama
294 Encore WAM!
295 Encore Westerns
296 Encore Action
319 FCS Atlantic
320 FCS Central
321 FCS Pacific
322 College Sports TV
324 NHL Network
325 NBA TV
327 Tennis Channel
328 Fuel TV
329 G4
330 Outdoor Channel
350 CNN
351 Headline News
352 Fox News
354 MSNBC
355 CNBC
370 Weather Channel
385 EWTN
399 TWC Infomercials
435 STOHD
436 FSN HD
470 Universal HD
471 HDNet
472 HDNet Movies
473 Mojo
610 HBO W
611 HBO2 W
612 HBO Signature W
613 HBO Family W
614 HBO Comedy W
615 HBO Zone W
710 HD PPV Events
741-754 NHL Center Ice/MLB
761-770 NBA/MLS Sport Packages
781-786 ESPN GamePlan / Full Court
801 GalaVision
805 mun2
806 Canal Sur
807 Cnn en Espanol
808 History en Espanol
809 Discover en Espanol
810 La Familia
811 Toon Disney en Espanol
812 Boomerang en Espanol
813 ESPN Deportes
814 Fox Sports en Espanol
815 MTV Tr3s
816 CineLatino
850 International MOD
851 ART Arabic
852 RAI International
853 TV Asia
854 DW TV
855 Zee TV
857 Filipino Channel
858 TV5Monde
859 TV Japan
860 TV Russia

Also, on the subject of going all digital, TWC NEO has posted that the Versus channel will move to the digital tier on October 26.

Plus, I noticed some channels in the usual "contract will soon expire" legal notice that are talked about here:

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future.

WUPW, WYTV, Starz/Encore, Lifeskool On Demand, Sleuth, Universal HD, USA, Great American Country, Flix, GSN, Showtime/ The Movie Channel, Oxygen On Demand, BBC America On Demand, Inspirational Life, Fuel TV, Sci-Fi Channel, Outdoor Channel, NHL Network, MOJO, NBA TV.

There's an entire thread about MOJO going off the air sometime around the end of the year. And with USA and SCIFI listed, I'm back to wishful thinking that the addition of USA and SCIFI HD are in the near future.

there is no clear HD QAM on our TWCSC SDV system.

Not even the locals?

xnappo

Cable companies are required by law to carry the locals via ClearQAM. There is still some grey area as to whether or not that includes the HD feed when they carry it via digital cable. However, most cable companies do offer the HD feed via ClearQAM when they carry it.