I have the Timewarner Triple Play (Turbo). I have been enjoying HD channels of Timewarner on my Sharp AQUOS 52" LCD HDTV for a while now until I went to my friends house.

They have the RCN package and I noticed the difference immediately. They have the Samsung 40" LCD HDTV. I was watching USA HD channel and I could see the difference of PQ of RCN VS Timewarner.

We are using both HDMI (same brand). Now, I am lead to believe that Timewarner does not fully stream HD channels compared to RCN. My setup on my HDTV is 1080i... and I am using SA 8300HDC (with DVR).

Is there a way for me to change any settings on my cable box so that PQ is more crisp?
Set my new plasma (Panasonic TH-65VX100U (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16424503&highlight=th+65vx100#post16424503)) up this spring using HDMI, then experimented with a YPbPr hookup. Found component cables, with a 8300HD on NYC's TWC, provided slightly higher effective resolution using HDNet's Saturday am resolution-wedge test patterns with this technique (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5175424#post5175424), (which several years back also showed slightly better RCN resolution compared to TWC). YPbPr was ~1424 lines versus ~1335 lines for a high-end 9' HDMI cable. Adjusting your sharpness control will boost apparent 'crispness' but it shouldn't be set high enough to create ringing (white outlines) on fine lettering etc., like the gradually smaller text on the HDNet resolution pattern; (see image with the HDNet sublink within the 'technique' link above.) -- John

RCN is an alternative cable/telecom provider, an "overbuilder" in cable parlance. They have a presence in NYC, Boston, D.C., and Chicago.

I'm surprised they are still in business. They had been pitching my building about 10 years ago, but called it off when they said they were doing no more wiring and would only serve buildings they were already wired into. I have not read anything about them adding any buildings since then.

So unless it's already in your building, no RCN... unless something changed since then!

Same story here: There are several places in town, here, where one neighbor can get RCN, while next door is not available, and it has been that way for about ten years.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/353998-Time_Warner_Cable_Taps_BigBand_For_Switched_Digital_Expansio n.php

dallas , los angeles, nyc most of these areas are 870MHz.

NYC is supposedly at 1 GHz. San Diego ex Adelphia is 870 MHz. San Diego SA is at 870 or 1GHz or even 750 MHz.

Watching CNN Newsroom with Rick Sanchez right now, I notice a different background off to the side of the desk. When the camera was on Roland Martin I saw some CNN logos on glass and a more colorful background. I don't remember seeing it before so it makes me think it is something for HD. I think New York has a wall of CNN logos on their set too.

NYC is supposedly at 1 GHz.

I'm not aware of anything above 870 MHz

You know BBC America HD seems to be added very quickly in various TWC divisions. TWC Charlotte is getting it. However, San Diego will eventually get it on SDV.

You know BBC America HD seems to be added very quickly in various TWC divisions. TWC Charlotte is getting it. However, San Diego will eventually get it on SDV.

Yes... we are getting a nice bump here next month:

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

The HBO multicast package is very welcomed. This will bring Charlotte's Total HD Count (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17193044#post17193044) to 79... 55 of which are "HD Basic".

We supposedly already have Fox Sports Carolinas HD, but it's been 90% SD color bars for months... maybe this means the full programming schedule is coming rather than a few cherry-picked events.

I have the Timewarner Triple Play (Turbo). I have been enjoying HD channels of Timewarner on my Sharp AQUOS 52" LCD HDTV for a while now until I went to my friends house.

They have the RCN package and I noticed the difference immediately. They have the Samsung 40" LCD HDTV. I was watching USA HD channel and I could see the difference of PQ of RCN VS Timewarner.

We are using both HDMI (same brand). Now, I am lead to believe that Timewarner does not fully stream HD channels compared to RCN. My setup on my HDTV is 1080i... and I am using SA 8300HDC (with DVR).

Is there a way for me to change any settings on my cable box so that PQ is more crisp?

You can calibrate your TVs all the way you want, but still the picture quality will sucks. TWC compress the HD channels except the locals, Have you compare a channel like CBS HD to ESPN- HD you can see the difference because one is compressed and the other is not (CBS). RCN doesn't compress the HD channels.

Now with SDV coming maybe time warner will give every hd channel the treatment that they are suppose to get in the first place.

I do know that SDV will let them keep the same bit rate. Most SDV divisions still use 3:1 HD per QAM channels.

You know BBC America HD seems to be added very quickly in various TWC divisions. TWC Charlotte is getting it. However, San Diego will eventually get it on SDV.

FWIW, their HD DOES seem to be very good (Being Human, Torchwood, Dr. Who). Don't think they are even stretching commercials but running them OAR.

It occurs to me that we should organize a huge letter writing campaign to anyone who advertises on the stretch-o-vision channels that we will boycott their products because they are being stretched.

Yes... we are getting a nice bump here next month:

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

The HBO multicast package is very welcomed. This will bring Charlotte's Total HD Count (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17193044#post17193044) to 79... 55 of which are "HD Basic".

We supposedly already have Fox Sports Carolinas HD, but it's been 90% SD color bars for months... maybe this means the full programming schedule is coming rather than a few cherry-picked events.

Happy for ya!

San Diego proper got a few HD channels this week

CH. 499 - Encore HD
CH. 611 - HBO Latino E
CH. 737 - Fox News HD
CH. 748 - E! HD
CH. 778 - Fox Business HD
CH. 779 - Planet Green HD

Of course a bunch of channels will eventually be added later. I expect even more to be added by the end of this year. Maybe we'll hit the 100 HD mark sooner rather than later. Of course Ex Adelphia is now being shafted. They'll have to play the waiting game and wait for SDV and iGuide A28.

Hello all,

We don't yet have FX-HD and AMC-HD in Austin. If you have it in your area can you please reply so I can use it as fodder to get it added here?

Thanks,
xnappo

Hello all,

We don't yet have FX-HD and AMC-HD in Austin. If you have it in your area can you please reply so I can use it as fodder to get it added here?

Thanks,
xnappo

Both of these in Greensboro NC

Both of these in Greensboro NC

ditto...in the charlotte area

Hello all,

We don't yet have FX-HD and AMC-HD in Austin. If you have it in your area can you please reply so I can use it as fodder to get it added here?

Thanks,
xnappo

Have both in Raleigh-Durham area.

Hello all,

We don't yet have FX-HD and AMC-HD in Austin. If you have it in your area can you please reply so I can use it as fodder to get it added here?

Thanks,
xnappo

NYC system has both. I believe both launched in northern Manhattan 12/08 and in Southern Manhattan on 3/09, but had been available prior in the other boroughs.

NYC system has both. I believe both launched in northern Manhattan 12/08 and in Southern Manhattan on 3/09, but had been available prior in the other boroughs.

Thanks guys. Here is the email request I sent...
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My understanding is that TWC now negotiates programming contracts at the national level. Two popular channels with Emmy award winning HD content - FX-HD and AMC-HD have been negotiated, yet are still not available in Austin. These channels have been available in Rochester NY, NYC, North Carolina and other markets for quite some time.

As we have SDV in Austin - I do not understand why these channels have not been added - nor for that matter why BBCAmerica-HD has not been added.

So - with contacts and bandwidth no longer an excuse - please add these channels!
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Thanks guys. Here is the email request I sent...

Best of luck...

Thanks guys. Here is the email request I sent...
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My understanding is that TWC now negotiates programming contracts at the national level. Two popular channels with Emmy award winning HD content - FX-HD and AMC-HD have been negotiated, yet are still not available in Austin. These channels have been available in Rochester NY, NYC, North Carolina and other markets for quite some time.

As we have SDV in Austin - I do not understand why these channels have not been added - nor for that matter why BBCAmerica-HD has not been added.

So - with contacts and bandwidth no longer an excuse - please add these channels!
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i bet you'll get the same reply i got a few weeks back when i mailed them letting them know that i wanted bbcahd. and siteing various places that already have it. cant find the exact message but it was something like,

thanks for contacting us regarding the BBCA-HD channel. we are working hard to provide the best service and content possible to our customers. we are continually adding HD channels. please check the web site for upcoming line up changes.

a few weeks later and now i see we will be getting it in oct.

i bet you'll get the same reply i got a few weeks back when i mailed them letting them know that i wanted bbcahd.

Yeah, I figure it will be something along those lines - but I am getting others from our local mailing list to do the same, and I also know that some TWC employees read our local list - though they very rarely comment anymore due to people being too obnoxious.

xnappo

Yes... we are getting a nice bump here next month:

October 28, 2009: The following channels will be added:

Lo Mejor On Demand - Channel 848 (Free On Demand)
HBO2 HD - Channel 312 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Signature HD - Channel 313 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Family HD - Channel 314 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Comedy HD - Channel 315 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Zone HD - Channel 316 (requires subscription to HBO)
HBO Latino HD - Channel 549 (requires subscription to HBO)
BBC America HD - Channel 219 (Digital Basic)
Fox Sports Carolinas HD - Channel 263 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Headline News HD - Channel 272 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
Investigation Discovery HD - Channel 274 (Digital Basic)
MSNBC HD - Channel 273 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
truTV HD - Channel 275 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)
TCM HD - Channel 218 (Basic Cable plus HD converter)

The HBO multicast package is very welcomed. This will bring Charlotte's Total HD Count (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17193044#post17193044) to 79... 55 of which are "HD Basic".

We supposedly already have Fox Sports Carolinas HD, but it's been 90% SD color bars for months... maybe this means the full programming schedule is coming rather than a few cherry-picked events.

God I envy you guys...we still got nothing here in the Queen City (Cincinnati OH) - I would kill to have BBC America in HD...do they have alot of content in HD or is it all strecho-vision/4:3 video?

God I envy you guys...we still got nothing here in the Queen City (Cincinnati OH) - I would kill to have BBC America in HD...do they have alot of content in HD or is it all strecho-vision/4:3 video?

You mean "we still got nothing here in the the OTHER Queen City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina)?:p

I'll let you know next month after its added, but from what I hear its OK!

You mean "we still got nothing here in the the OTHER Queen City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina)?:p

I'll let you know next month after its added, but from what I hear its OK!

dude we are THE queen city...charlotte looks quite modern compared to cincy..but I also think my hometown of meridian ms is also called the "queen city" but you can have the title b/c I actually want to live there in charotte. how is it there?

dude we are THE queen city...charlotte looks quite modern compared to cincy..but I also think my hometown of meridian ms is also called the "queen city" but you can have the title b/c I actually want to live there in charotte. how is it there?

I was just in cincy 2 weeks ago... Evendale/Sharonville, actually, but drove through downtown and across the river in KY a little while I was there. Definitely an older more established feel... more like the northeast than down here. The rolling hills in the area are beautiful.

Been here 16 years after moving from NY/NJ Metro area. Had an 18 year career in CATV going at the time... that got derailed by a "joint venture" with our friends at TWC only a year after moving here.

Gets better AND worse here each year. Basically its good but a lot of growing pains... infrastructure hasn't kept up with growth going from 40th to 18th largest city in last 25 years or so. City is heavy on banking, so this economic "crisis" weighs heavily here.

Hate to say it, but TWC provides some decent service here, though.

I've been pestering my local TWC/LA programming executive contact about the absolute absence of any new HD channels here since the huge group of additions made between December 2008 and February 2009.

There's still nothing on the Programming Alerts page, but yesterday she replied in response to my complaint that TWC/Charlotte had a big set of additions arriving in the next month, and TWC/NYC already had a huge number of additions operational for a few months (implying, obviously, that TWC/national had clearly entered into HD carriage agreements with these networks). I specifically also asked about AMC-HD being available through On Demand (HD Showcase, probably) since I have been missing the entire "Mad Men" Season 3 in HD (as AMC-HD is not carried, nor is it available On Demand).

"We are planning a good number of HDs in early November. Finalizing list now. AMC will be on it. We would like to carry AMC On demand and are talking to them about it."

So, I anticipate a [hopefully] full slate of the next batch of "commonly available" HD channels already available or announced for other parts of the country, as being announced and added to the TWC/LA HD channel lineup over the next month or two.

"We are planning a good number of HDs in early November. Finalizing list now. AMC will be on it. We would like to carry AMC On demand and are talking to them about it."

From a look at your HD lineup it looks like you guys have 54 HD channels. By comparison we here in NYC have 117. I dont see any reason why at least 100 channles should be reached before years end.
If you haven't already you should take a look at the first post in this thread to see a updated listing of channels that can be added in your division.

I've been pestering my local TWC/LA programming executive contact about the absolute absence of any new HD channels here since the huge group of additions made between December 2008 and February 2009.

There's still nothing on the Programming Alerts page, but yesterday she replied in response to my complaint that TWC/Charlotte had a big set of additions arriving in the next month, and TWC/NYC already had a huge number of additions operational for a few months (implying, obviously, that TWC/national had clearly entered into HD carriage agreements with these networks). I specifically also asked about AMC-HD being available through On Demand (HD Showcase, probably) since I have been missing the entire "Mad Men" Season 3 in HD (as AMC-HD is not carried, nor is it available On Demand).

"We are planning a good number of HDs in early November. Finalizing list now. AMC will be on it. We would like to carry AMC On demand and are talking to them about it."

So, I anticipate a [hopefully] full slate of the next batch of "commonly available" HD channels already available or announced for other parts of the country, as being announced and added to the TWC/LA HD channel lineup over the next month or two.

we all lost AMC on demand content.

From a look at your HD lineup it looks like you guys have 54 HD channels.Actually, I think we have 68 counting premium HD channels. I listed all of them recently, in this post on the local TWC/LA thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=17167689&postcount=6808).


By comparison we here in NYC have 117.Grrr...


I dont see any reason why at least 100 channels should be reached before years end.I'm hoping that all of the channels available elsewhere in the TWC nation will be made available with the presumably upcoming announcement of the November channel rollout.

we all lost AMC on demand content.As did we. I read about a failure in the negotiations between TWC/national and AMC for On Demand this season... hence a complete vanishing.

though they very rarely comment anymore due to people being too obnoxious.

xnappo

Boy do I remember a thread an exec from TWC I think actually started. It was fabulous for the first week, there was a good exchange between her and us... then the a**holes started with their typical crap and she was never seen again. We lost an ability to have a conversation with the mothership...

I would kill to have BBC America in HD...do they have alot of content in HD or is it all strecho-vision/4:3 video?

Hate to tell ya, but Torchwood, Being Human and Dr. Who are all fabulous, proper HD for sure. I see some of the shows I don't watch having very thin pillars, my guess because they are 1440 wide BUT they are NOT distorting anything. It appears someone in charge believes in OAR.

Boy do I remember a thread an exec from TWC I think actually started. It was fabulous for the first week, there was a good exchange between her and us... then the a**holes started with their typical crap and she was never seen again. We lost an ability to have a conversation with the mothership...

Yep - it was Diane. We had something similar happen in our local forum with the head of our local customer support team - and we are much worse off for it.

xnappo

Diana. She used to be our Customer Rep in South Carolina. Got kicked upstairs to HQ. Connecticut I think.

Diana. She used to be our Customer Rep in South Carolina. Got kicked upstairs to HQ. Connecticut I think.

oops - well hopefully she isn't still reading, because now that you reminded me she hates being called Diane.

xnappo

What really sucks is that here in Greensboro we are getting tons of new HD which is great. However we are still stuck with the clunky Sara guide. It's still SARA one to two years after most of the rest (Triad excluded)of NC have received Navigator. My division cannot still give me a date when we will get it.All they will say aftr 6 months that it;s still being tested by employees.That really sucks.TIVO is looking better all the time. Woody

Oceanic Time Warner Cable to release five new HD channels

Turner Classis Movies
Cartoon Network
Headline News
Jewelry TV
Outdoor Channel

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090921/GETPUBLISHED/909210348

Don't knock Jewelry TV. My wife's cousin works there! :)

Don't knock Jewelry TV. My wife's cousin works there! :)

Any special coupon codes you can share with us?:D

[QUOTE=AndyHDTV;7244431] Known Deals Done With TWC, Not Available in All Areas

HD PPV
HD Movies OnDemand
HD Adult OnDemand
HD Showcase OnDemand
HBO-HD
HBO2-HD
HBO Family-HD
HBO Comedy-HD
HBO Signature-HD
HBO Zone-HD
HBO Latino-HD
Cinemax-HD
MoreMax-HD
ActionMAX-HD
5StarMAX-HD
ThrillerMAX-HD
WMAX-HD
@MAX-HD
OuterMAX-HD
Showtime-HD
Showtime 2-HD
ShowCase-HD
ShowExtreme-HD
The Movie Channel-HD
TMCxtra-HD
Starz-HD
Starz Comedy-HD
Starz Edge-HD
Starz Kids & Family-HD
Encore-HD
MGM-HD
Palladia-HD
TNT-HD
TBS-HD
CNN-HD
Cartoon Network-HD
TCM-HD
HLN-HD
Food Network-HD
HGTV-HD
A&E-HD
History Channel-HD
Biography-HD
Crime & Investigation-HD
Lifetime Movie Network-HD
Hallmark Movie Channel-HD
Discovery HD Theater
The Science Channel-HD
The Discovery Channel-HD
The Learning Channel-HD
Animal Planet-HD
Planet Green-HD
Travel Channel-HD
Disney Channel-HD
ABC Family-HD
Toon Disney-HD
ESPN-HD
ESPN 2-HD
ESPN News-HD
ESPN U-HD
Universal-HD
The Weather Channel-HD
Sci-Fi-HD
Bravo-HD
USA-HD
CNBC-HD
MSNBC-HD
FUSE-HD
IFC-HD
AMC-HD
WE-HD
Fox News-HD
Fox Business Network-HD
National Geographic-HD
FX-HD
Speed-HD
Big Ten Network-HD
TV One-HD
E! Entertainment-HD
Style-HD
G4-HD
Versus-HD
Golf-HD
QVC-HD
HSN-HD
Smithsonian-HD
MavTV-HD
The Outdoor Channel-HD
CBS College Sports-HD
The Tennis Channel-HD
Game-HD (MLB Extra Innings & NHL Center Ice in HD)
Team-HD (NBA League Pass in HD)
NHL Network-HD
MLB Network-HD
NBA TV-HD
RFD-HD
WGN America-HD
BBC America-HD
Investigation Discovery-HD
Lifetime Television-HD --- (Coming soon to TWC in San Diego)
truTV-HD --- (Coming soon to TWC in Rochester, NY)
Oxygen-HD --- (Coming soon to TWC in Buffalo, NY)
Jewlery TV-HD --- (Coming soon to TWC in Hawaii)
Chiller-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
Sleuth-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)



Negotiations Known In Progress With TWC

NFL Network-HD



Negotiations Unknown With TWC

Nickelodeon-HD
Spike-HD
County Music Channel-HD
MTV-HD
VH1-HD
Comedy Central-HD
BET Jazz-HD
BET-HD
LOGO-HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MTN-HD
TBN-HD
World Fishing Network-HD
Wealth TV-HD
Fuel-HD
Jewlery TV-HD
Fashion TV-HD
Cars.TV-HD
Pets.TV-HD
Comedy.TV-HD
MyDestination.TV-HD
ES.TV-HD
Recipe.TV-HD
NFL Redzone-HD

BTNC-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
Qubo-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
ION Life-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009)
Fox Soccer Channel-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009 or 2010)
Fox Reality Channel-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009 or 2010)
Fox College Sports-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009 or 2010)
Fox Movie Channel-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009 or 2010)
Fox Sports En Espanol-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2009 or 2010)
OWN-HD (Discovery Health) --- (Channel Launching in 2010)
Hallmark Channel-HD --- (Channel Launching in 2010)
ShowBeyond-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
ShowWomen-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
ShowFamilyZone-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
ShowNext-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
FLIX-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
SI TV-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
BBN-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
Africa Channel-HD --- (Channel Launch TBA)
MTV2-HD --- (Channel Launch Rumored)



Hey Andy,

Thought you might want to update your list to include these 2 national spanish HD channels coming soon to TWCNYC.


Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens and Mount Vernon

September 18, 2009



From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

On or about October 1, 2009, we will launch two sports overflow channels on ch. 197 and ch. 198.



On or about October 21, 2009, we will move Planet Green HD from 768 to 698 and launch WFUT HD (Telefutura) on ch. 768. We will also launch WXTV HD (Univision) on ch. 741 in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens and on ch. 716 in Mount Vernon

Hey Andy,

Thought you might want to update your list to include these 2 national spanish HD channels coming soon to TWCNYC.


Manhattan, Brooklyn/Queens and Mount Vernon

September 18, 2009



From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

On or about October 1, 2009, we will launch two sports overflow channels on ch. 197 and ch. 198.



On or about October 21, 2009, we will move Planet Green HD from 768 to 698 and launch WFUT HD (Telefutura) on ch. 768. We will also launch WXTV HD (Univision) on ch. 741 in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens and on ch. 716 in Mount Vernon


Those don't apply here.... just like ABC/NBC/etc aren't listed. those are regional-only deals - not national Time Warner ones

Time Warner Cable To Announce 'Wideband' Plan For NYC

Operator to Detail First Deployment of DOCSIS 3.0 Services

by Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 9/24/2009 10:12:54 AM EDT

Time Warner Cable will announce details of its first deployment of DOCSIS 3.0 services, in New York City, at a launch event Thursday.

The services, called Time Warner Cable Wideband Internet and Business Class Wideband Internet, will be introduced at the event at Metropolitan Home's Showtime House showcase penthouse in the city's Tribeca neighborhood. The launch comes as the cable operator fights Verizon's FiOS Internet rollout in the Big Apple.

More details to follow.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/355200-Time_Warner_Cable_To_Announce_Wideband_Plan_For_NYC.php

Got my new TV today and the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD box. The TV is awesome and the HD channels are great but every few minutes the picture pauses or pixelates. If it happens long enough the Dolby signal will drop from the display on the receiver.

Is this a problem with the signal or is the 8300HD box defective?

Also, is there a HBO-HD On-Demand channel?

TIA.

Tipsy

Got my new TV today and the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD box. The TV is awesome and the HD channels are great but every few minutes the picture pauses or pixelates. If it happens long enough the Dolby signal will drop from the display on the receiver.

Is this a problem with the signal or is the 8300HD box defective?

Also, is there a HBO-HD On-Demand channel?

TIA.

Tipsy

I have an 8300HD and have had that problem many of times before. It's probably more in the signal than it is with your specific box.

Also, is there a HBO-HD On-Demand channel?There is (theoretically), but it's not available through TWC... at least not yet.

According to this item from a few months back (http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast072409.htm), Comcast is now the first provider to offer HBO HD On Demand.

Perhaps TWC may get it eventually as well.

Got my new TV today and the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD box. The TV is awesome and the HD channels are great but every few minutes the picture pauses or pixelates. If it happens long enough the Dolby signal will drop from the display on the receiver.All channels? Specific channels? Specific programs? What is your HDTV? What is your city?

As was replied above, this is probably more from the content itself (or recompression by TWC) rather than coming from something flawed in the SA8300 box.

There is (theoretically), but it's not available through TWC... at least not yet.

According to this item from a few months back (http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast072409.htm), Comcast is now the first provider to offer HBO HD On Demand.

Perhaps TWC may get it eventually as well.

Time Warner in our division is running ads touting Start Over HD and On Demand HD but they don't exist here. They did the same thing with Navigator when they launched a totally redesigned website with all these great new features that we didn't have. I called excitedly to ask when they were going to deploy Navigator and within a few days all traces were removed from the website.

All channels? Specific channels? Specific programs? What is your HDTV? What is your city?

As was replied above, this is probably more from the content itself (or recompression by TWC) rather than coming from something flawed in the SA8300 box.
My city is NY (Manhattan).

I've only had the TV (Sony KDL-52Z5100) and SA 8300HD box for less than a day so I can't say for sure how many channels are affected but it happened while watching at least two or three HD movies on seperate channels.

Tipsy

I can't say for sure how many channels are affected but it happened while watching at least two or three HD movies on seperate channels.What channels? Premium commercial-free channels (e.g. HBOHD, SHOHD, MAXHD, etc.)? Low-end cable channels, known to not care much about HD quality (e.g. TNTHD, TBSHD, UHD, AMCHD, MGMHD, etc.)?

Welcome to the HD club with your new TV, but one quickly learns that not all so-called HD is the same. This is not a defense of TWC, but more of a condemnation of low-end networks oblivious to something called "quality" and OAR.

What channels? Premium commercial-free channels (e.g. HBOHD, SHOHD, MAXHD, etc.)? Low-end cable channels, known to not care much about HD quality (e.g. TNTHD, TBSHD, UHD, AMCHD, MGMHD, etc.)?

Welcome to the HD club with your new TV, but one quickly learns that not all so-called HD is the same. This is not a defense of TWC, but more of a condemnation of low-end networks oblivious to something called "quality" and OAR.Thanks for the Welcome!

Like I said...I've only had the set and service for less than 24 hours but the problem has been annoying enough in that short time that I'm seeking information.

They were all premium commercial free movie channels (HBO, Starz, Cinemax, etc).

Tipsy

Time Warner launches more HD channels

The Desert Sun • September 25, 2009

Time Warner Cable Desert Cities has launched six new high definition channels, including three sports channels, for customers with an HD converter.

CBS College Sports Network HD (channel 687), Speed HD (694) and Outdoor Channel HD (674) are available to subscribers of the Sports Tier.

In addition, Fox News Channel HD (655) and FX HD (668) are available to customers who subscribe to Expanded Cable. Fuse HD (671) is available to customers who subscribe to the Variety Tier.

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20090925/SPORTS/909250344/1026/news12

My city is NY (Manhattan).

I've only had the TV (Sony KDL-52Z5100) and SA 8300HD box for less than a day so I can't say for sure how many channels are affected but it happened while watching at least two or three HD movies on seperate channels.

Tipsy

In the NYC thread, we have had similar reports from different boxes (HDCs) and I can say it has happened with both Passport and MDN software. As for channels, most complaints seem to be around the local FOX channel. I have noticed a concentration around 3 channels that happen to be on the same QAM channel. Those three channels have also multiple times gone to gray screens for 10 minutes to an hour.

It also has been notice by more than one person that recently, the issue seems to be happened on channels that never had the issue before, I have the same experience.

All this certainly seems to point to issues at the various head ends... unfortunately many who report never list box, software and which head end they are from, but by location it can be inferred it's not all in one head end... that it may be moire system wide.

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/time-warner-cable-brings-docsis-3-0-big-apple/2009-09-25?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss&cmp-id=OTC-RSS-FT0

No thanks, at ~$100 for 50/5 Mbps (more than double the cost of my current NYC TWC Road Runner service). Might consider it if they'd splice in some super-HD services such as MPEG4 24p movies; 1080i with greatly boosted effective resolution; 1080p60@3Gbps (double standard HD's rate), compressed of course, via MPEG4; 3D video (live/recorded)...even if a 2nd 3D-capable display was required. -- John

EDIT: Make that 48-fps MPEG4 movies as well as true-24p ones. :-)

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/time-warner-cable-brings-docsis-3-0-big-apple/2009-09-25?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss&cmp-id=OTC-RSS-FT0

No thanks, at ~$100 for 50/5 Mbps (more than double the cost of my current NYC TWC Road Runner service). Might consider it if they'd splice in some super-HD services such as MPEG4 24p movies; 1080i with greatly boosted effective resolution; 1080p60@3Gbps (double standard HD's rate), compressed of course, via MPEG4; 3D video (live/recorded)...even if a 2nd 3D-capable display was required. -- John

EDIT: Make that 48-fps MPEG4 movies as well as true-24p ones. :-)

Totally agree... no sale. Besides, it STILL is that TWCs "standard is 10/512 while FiOS seems to be 25/5 (in NYC).

TWC NorthEast Ohio

From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned on or after October 15, 2009

Sleuth and Hallmark Movies will be added to the Digital Basic Tier.

The following channels will be added to standard HD: Cartoon HD, TCM HD, HLN HD, E! HD;

The following channels will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Basic Tier: Biography HD, Disney SX HD, Outdoor HD, Fox Business News HD, Style HD, Hallmark Movies HD

The following channels will be relocated to new channel positions: On standard HD, Palladia HD from 469 to 470. On the HD Tier: Universal HD from 470 to 496; Smithsonian HD from 471 to 497; Mav TV HD from 472 to 498 and MGM HD from 473 to 499.

The following changes are planned on or after November 4, 2009:

The Weather Channel HD will be added to standard HD.

The following channels will be added to HD with carriage level varying by area: WE HD and TV One HD.

The following channels will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Basic Tier: Planet Green HD, IFC HD and Fuse HD.

The following channels will be added to HD for customers with the Digital Sports Tier: NHL Network HD, Tennis Channel HD and CBS College Sports HD.

* Changes will vary by service area. Not all services available in all areas.

I'm pretty sure Disney SX doesn't exist, and they mean Disney XD

Time Warner launches more HD channels

The Desert Sun • September 25, 2009

Time Warner Cable Desert Cities has launched six new high definition channels, including three sports channels, for customers with an HD converter.

CBS College Sports Network HD (channel 687), Speed HD (694) and Outdoor Channel HD (674) are available to subscribers of the Sports Tier.

In addition, Fox News Channel HD (655) and FX HD (668) are available to customers who subscribe to Expanded Cable. Fuse HD (671) is available to customers who subscribe to the Variety Tier.

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20090925/SPORTS/909250344/1026/news12

Yeah. And sometime in the last month we got four Big Ten Network channels to go along with the regular Big Ten Network channel we got several months ago. Big Ten sports--talk about a waste of bandwidth for most of us living out here in the middle of the California desert.

Anyone have any idea if Time Warner is planning on adding ABC and Fox shows to their on demand channels?

One of my favorite TW features is that I can watch CBS, NBC, USA, SyFy, FX's shows on demand. They do not carry all their programs but do have the most popular ones.

If they presently carry any of the ABC or Fox ones, I have not found which on demand channels has them.

Thanks
Gail in SC

It would be on PrimeTime OD. TWC has yet to add Fox and ABC VoD. If it does come out Primetime OD and HD Showcase OD would be the place for it.

Thanks, hopefully they will add it soon. I was not sure if some markets already had this.

For TWC Southwest Division they will be adding the following HD Channels in November:

MSNBC HD
Headline News HD
E! HD
Versus HD
Speed HD
Disney XD HD
Biography HD
Travel Channel HD
Weather HD
AMC HD


Still not the channels I would like (BBC America HD) but hey the more HD we get the merrier! So by years end we will have roughly 53 HD channels not including the Premium HD channels you have to pay extra for like Smithsonian or MAV HD.

Anyone have any idea if Time Warner is planning on adding ABC and Fox shows to their on demand channels?

One of my favorite TW features is that I can watch CBS, NBC, USA, SyFy, FX's shows on demand. They do not carry all their programs but do have the most popular ones.

Gail in SC

I also like this feature; in addition to more networks, it would be even better if this free on-demand channel was available in HD. On my system (TWC Austin) the primetime-on-demand channel is SD only.

The HD primetime content would be in HD Showcase OD.

I still would like to see TWC San Diego add MSNBC HD and BBCA HD.

I still would like to see TWC San Diego add MSNBC HD and BBCA HD.Still no official word that I can find, but I'm pretty confident these will be here in November (based on my sources).

I still would like to see TWC San Diego add MSNBC HD and BBCA HD.

+ Comedy & Travel AND Premium channels OD in HD. Also realignment of HD premium channels from 600s to 700s.

- Big10. I can take 1 Big10 HD but I don't get 5, ALL showing same content :confused:.

Still not the channels I would like (BBC America HD) but hey the more HD we get the merrier! So by years end we will have roughly 53 HD channels not including the Premium HD channels you have to pay extra for like Smithsonian or MAV HD.

It seems to me that everyone who quotes the "number of HD" in each market DO include all "pay-extra" channels. In general, they also seem to include any VOD or PPV HD channels as single channels... while some MSOs are known to add in 30+ HD channels for one HD VOD service!

I still would like to see TWC San Diego add MSNBC HD and BBCA HD.Looks like we're getting closer...

Local TWC/LA thread just pointed out that the HDTV page now shows:


Coming Soon!

KMEX HD (Univision)
KFTR HD (Telefutura)
AMC HD
WE HD
Fuse HD
IFC HD
E! HD
Style HD
MSNBC HD
BBC America HD
HSN HD

CBS College Sports HD
G4 HD
HLN HD (Headline News)
History International HD
NBA TV
Outdoor Channel HD
QVC HD
TCM HD
TV One HD
WGN America HD
Investigation Discovery HD



Still nothing on the Programming Alerts page, but it definitely looks like the wheels are in motion. I still think it's planned for November.

Yes and a good majority if not all of them will be SDV. TWC LA is hoping to install a BigBand SDV system which means Tuning resolvers will be offered for those Tivo, Moxi, and UDCP PC owners.

Yes and a good majority if not all of them will be SDV. TWC LA is hoping to install a BigBand SDV system which means Tuning resolvers will be offered for those Tivo, Moxi, and UDCP PC owners.

KMEX and KFTR will not be SDV because they are OTA channels but the rest will most likely be SDV.

TWC dallas already has 52HD so we only need 48 more to have 100 HD

I wonder when dallas will launch SDV because Iguide A28 is coming soon.

- Big10. I can take 1 Big10 HD but I don't get 5, ALL showing same content :confused:.When Big Ten teams are playing simultaneously, the channels show different games.

It seems to me that everyone who quotes the "number of HD" in each market DO include all "pay-extra" channels. In general, they also seem to include any VOD or PPV HD channels as single channels... while some MSOs are known to add in 30+ HD channels for one HD VOD service!

Well I don't because TWC boasts about having free HD so I want to keep it real.

- Big10. I can take 1 Big10 HD but I don't get 5, ALL showing same content :confused:.

The extra 4 channels are only there for football, and will go away after the season ends. Getting all the feeds for the same price is still a good deal compared to ESPN Gameplan or all of the pro leagues.

Well I don't because TWC boasts about having free HD so I want to keep it real.

But I do pay extra for those channels. I get them so I count them.

But I do pay extra for those channels. I get them so I count them.

They are available/carried whether paid for or not.

While some areas still need to get busy, it seems we might want to gradually turn attention/ire to stretch-o-vision channels. Seems to me, they do that because they think customers want it. While it DOES seem some do want that, I think they are quite the minority.

They are available/carried whether paid for or not.

While some areas still need to get busy, it seems we might want to gradually turn attention/ire to stretch-o-vision channels. Seems to me, they do that because they think customers want it. While it DOES seem some do want that, I think they are quite the minority.

Here it sure seems that way.

But of course we don't represent the average HDTV viewer.

And I'm sure almost all of us have experienced friends/family that would rather have the screen filled.

When Big Ten teams are playing simultaneously, the channels show different games.

ahh...makes sense, i only checked weekdays, usually watched other games on Saturdays.

I know bandwith is a key..but why does some TW area have some HD channels and not others that are in other markets....

Speed is on my basic HD listing but I see its showing up on others Sport Tier..

why isn't all time warner systems lineups the same..(Minus locals and Regional Sports channels).

what am I missing....

Here's a summary of the new channels added to the Albany TWC lineup this morning:
1750 Fox News HD
1759 Bravo HD
1762 E! HD
1824 Crime & Investigation HD
1828 USA HD
1830 SyFy HD

Albany TWC added another 6 HD channels on October 1, 2009:

1757 Fuse HD
1758 G4 HD
1770 Big 10 HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)
1789 Big 10 On Demand (iCL39) (must subscribe to Sports Tier)
1862 AMC HD
1863 TCM HD

12 new channels in 2 days.

I know bandwith is a key..but why does some TW area have some HD channels and not others that are in other markets....

Speed is on my basic HD listing but I see its showing up on others Sport Tier..

why isn't all time warner systems lineups the same..(Minus locals and Regional Sports channels).

what am I missing....Each region is basically independent (their own Presidents) and can decide locally what to show. I suspect that was originally set-up to manage the company better (too big to do nationwide all together). Also, each region is of different age and infrastructure so variable capabilities. Also allows each region to do channels that are more needed in that area. There is pricing differences and the way channels are lined up differently too. /Dan

Each region is basically independent (their own Presidents) and can decide locally what to show. I suspect that was originally set-up to manage the company better (too big to do nationwide all together). Also, each region is of different age and infrastructure so variable capabilities. Also allows each region to do channels that are more needed in that area. There is pricing differences and the way channels are lined up differently too. /Dan

Not only that,

But there are local contractual agreements that vary from cable market to cable market within the same company, which may explain why you may have some channels and not others. Channels do not just magically appear on ANY cable system. The age of the equipment, the bandwidth capacity for the head-end, the number of nodes within a municipality, licensing agreements and system age, ALL play a factor in not only what channels you get, but a lot of times where channels are placed and how packages are organized.

Generally, the most requested channels on a national scale are considered first when space is available for them. But they also have to take into consideration Standard Service, which is generally channels 2-99. These stations are harder to move around because their are local networks and standard cable operators that may even PAY higher residuals to have their station appear earlier than later in a basic or standard required package.

Note that Digital Services are more national based with some Ala-Carte options for customers, giving the cable company greater flexibility where to put channels. This is one reason why it is easier to add channels to digital tiers than standard tiers and why you will often see very little changes in basic/standard (non-digital) lineups in the future.

Jack

...12 new channels in 2 days.

Downstate still holds the record, we got 60-70 or so on one day; actually, more accurately that was one head end in the city, all the other boroughs got new channels in 2-6 bunches over about a year and then Manhattan got a HUGE group... and even then, northern Manhattan got them in 12/08, while southern Manhattan and to wait 4 months... no matter, happy you are getting more!

The official press release:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/AlbanyHDTV/TWCoct22009.jpg

It's official in Greensboro that we get Navigator Oct.6. Got the flyer in the mail today.

It's official in Greensboro that we get Navigator Oct.6. Got the flyer in the mail today.

Great welcome to the club. It may look better but it doesn't perform better.

Albany TWC added another 11 HD channels today (October 7, 2009):

1747 Headline News HD
1748 MSNBC HD
1749 CNBC HD
1760 Style HD
1761 IFC HD
1765 We HD
1775 Encore E HD
1849 MSG+ HD
1878 CBS College Sports HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)
1881 HBO2 E HD
1889 Showtime Showcase HD

Another 4 HD channels this morning (Oct 8) in Albany, NY:

1751 BBC America HD
1780 HBO Latino HD
1821 Home Shopping Network HD
1895 Showtime Extreme HD

That's 27 new HD channels in the last 9 days.

Instead of the 16 or so we were supposed to get next week and in November we get this

Hallmark Movies HD
Team HD

instead of the 16 or so we were supposed to get next week and in november we get this

hallmark movies hd
team hd

lmao!!

While San Diego gets more HD premiums, Fuse HD, Lifetime HD, QVC HD, The Weather Channel HD, WGN HD, and G4 HD. I still would like them to add MSNBC HD, Travel HD, and BBCA HD. Those channels should be added.

I'm surprised San Diego doesn't have Travel HD. I've had it for awhile

Our management gives Desert Cities CBS College sports HD but not us. We'll probably get it once they add all the other stuff. I guess it's not high on their list.

I'm surprised San Diego doesn't have Travel HD. I've had it for awhile

Same here in Grensboro NC. Travel channel has been here a while.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14086328@N00/sets/72157622547538388/

Here are pics of the new guide data. I've used Showtime HD as an example. Serial shows aren't much better but no longer show the year. Instead it shows the original airdate. It does have good descriptions and shows the name of the episode like all versions of Navigator.

Instead of the 16 or so we were supposed to get next week and in November we get this

Hallmark Movies HD
Team HD


For the last 2 months our legal channels changes say we will be getting mav-hd. Still haven't seen it yet.

For the last 2 months our legal channels changes say we will be getting mav-hd. Still haven't seen it yet.


You are missing absolutely nothing!

For the last 2 months our legal channels changes say we will be getting mav-hd. Still haven't seen it yet.


You are missing absolutely nothing!

That is true of about 75% of the channels. Very few offer a lot in the way of entertainment. I want the network broadcast channels, a couple of sports channels and the news channels. Toss in a couple of others and I'm satisfied.

It seems kind of foolish to be excited about the addition of channels that you will skip right past once they are there.

Here's the press release from Albany TWC:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/AlbanyHDTV/twc_oct9_2009.jpg

I just realized today at 7pm that TWC NYC had freeview (all premium movie channels free for a period of time)... Is there any website/newsletter we can subscribe to in order to be notified of these freeview events? I did not see anything in the circular TWC sends with the bill every month.

Thanks in advance!

I just realized today at 7pm that TWC NYC had freeview (all premium movie channels free for a period of time)... Is there any website/newsletter we can subscribe to in order to be notified of these freeview events? I did not see anything in the circular TWC sends with the bill every month.

Thanks in advance!

umm... there was no freeview...

but if something was scheduled it would come up in the local TWC NYC thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=723

And they also have a regular email (which i got once i started paying online)

No freeview? I am now watching HULK. :) Maybe a glitch?
Anyhow, it would be great if they could actually notify subscribers a little earlier. I remember they do it around thanksgiving most of the time. I will check in that topic, thanks.

No freeview? I am now watching HULK. :) Maybe a glitch?


Every once in a while, glitches happen. About ten years ago I was watching something on (what used to be) the Sci-Fi channel, which suddenly became a porn channel for about 20 minutes. Fired up the VCR for that one.

Sunspots !?

Well, I have to live with Hulk and a glimps of Liv Tyler's sexy legs, that's about all.. :) Nothing much else.. I tuned to Playboy and whatever else there was to see if I was lucky enough, as you may have expected, nothing.. All the adult channels are now either pay-per-view or special add-on, anyway.

Well, I have to live with Hulk and a glimps of Liv Tyler's sexy legs, that's about all.. :) Nothing much else.. I tuned to Playboy and whatever else there was to see if I was lucky enough, as you may have expected, nothing.. All the adult channels are now either pay-per-view or special add-on, anyway.

Did you just swap a box? Long ago I got 2 weeks of absolutely everything wide open, all premiums, all porn (which are all softcore), even all PPV things. Last box swap I got some things I wasnt paying for, but a few things I SHOULD be getting wewre blocked. lasted 2-3 days then back to only what my account was supposed to have.

Hi Riverside Guy,
Yes, I just swapped my SA box for SMT yesterday. I lost a good amount of recorded stuff, but this free HBO thing totally makes up for my lost DVR recordings! :) I did not turn off the cable box last night (Chandler+Joey) and this morning when I woke up I checked 201 and there it was, HBO. :) Let's see how long this will last. Your 2 week period sounds like a lucky one, most likely TWC is sweeping all boxes every few days to every week, refreshing programming, etc.. You got a lucky break of not getting refreshed for 2 weeks. Will report when my HBO's are gone... I got no PPV/OND/Playboy..

Hi Riverside Guy,
Yes, I just swapped my SA box for SMT yesterday. I lost a good amount of recorded stuff, but this free HBO thing totally makes up for my lost DVR recordings! :) I did not turn off the cable box last night (Chandler+Joey) and this morning when I woke up I checked 201 and there it was, HBO. :) Let's see how long this will last. Your 2 week period sounds like a lucky one, most likely TWC is sweeping all boxes every few days to every week, refreshing programming, etc.. You got a lucky break of not getting refreshed for 2 weeks. Will report when my HBO's are gone... I got no PPV/OND/Playboy..

o... you didn't mention that it was a new box...

That can go either way. Sometimes channels are there that shouldn't be - sometimes channels are missing that shouldn't be....

Hi Riverside Guy,
Yes, I just swapped my SA box for SMT yesterday. I lost a good amount of recorded stuff, but this free HBO thing totally makes up for my lost DVR recordings! :) I did not turn off the cable box last night (Chandler+Joey) and this morning when I woke up I checked 201 and there it was, HBO. :) Let's see how long this will last. Your 2 week period sounds like a lucky one, most likely TWC is sweeping all boxes every few days to every week, refreshing programming, etc.. You got a lucky break of not getting refreshed for 2 weeks. Will report when my HBO's are gone... I got no PPV/OND/Playboy..

Too bad TWC won't let us have HBO HD OnDemand!

I suspect it's all about a signal sent to "lock in" your specific account... once that is done, you'll only get what you are overpaying for. Enjoy it while it lasts...

you'll only get what you are overpaying for.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll189/Cumminalong/Smileys/kneelsuckerssmiley.gif

That is true of about 75% of the channels. Very few offer a lot in the way of entertainment. I want the network broadcast channels, a couple of sports channels and the news channels. Toss in a couple of others and I'm satisfied.

It seems kind of foolish to be excited about the addition of channels that you will skip right past once they are there.

For me it's the princple of the fact. Just give me the channels I pay for and I'll decide to watch or not. This is why I'm still mad over BigTenHDoD still showing call cust serv to subcribe for the past two months yet I get all the other channels in that tier.

Plus, you never know if you like something as you flip thur channels.

For me it's the princple of the fact. Just give me the channels I pay for and I'll decide to watch or not. This is why I'm still mad over BigTenHDoD still showing call cust serv to subcribe for the past two months yet I get all the other channels in that tier.

Plus, you never know if you like something as you flip thur channels.

Yeah, I know. Once in a great, great while, I stumble onto something on a channel I never watch, but it is so accidental, it just doesn't seem that the channel has any significance to me whatsoever.

Recently, it was necessary to take a digital box from TWC because the cablecard was not going to work with SDV. Suddenly, I had all of those free digital channels and it was fun to explore them. ............ That fun lasted for a couple of hours, then I realized I was going to have to force myself to go back and check those channels once in a while because I was just not going to come across them in the normal course of events.

It was always a kick when the cable company added a channel or two, but they now have hundreds and it's easy to feel that television has lost something as a direct result. So many choices and so few that arouse interest.

The talk about tv among the people that I see most days is always about a network show, the news talkers, our Boston sports teams' games or something else from the primary channels. It makes me wonder how the other channels have enough viewers to survive. I'm sure that there are always a certain number of people out there, but economic survival must be a challenge.

The other day, I noticed that the digital homosexual channel had a sign up that said something like, "We're gone for now, but we'll be back after the parade." Now, that is what you call 'operating on a shoestring'. Nobody to run the station when the operator wants to be somewhere else for a little while. Most of the digital channels create the same general impression. I suppose that time will sort it all out.

The talk about tv among the people that I see most days is always about a network show, the news talkers, our Boston sports teams' games or something else from the primary channels. It makes me wonder how the other channels have enough viewers to survive. I'm sure that there are always a certain number of people out there, but economic survival must be a challenge.


It's not a challenge at all.

I doubt there are many independent cable channels out there. Many are owned by an entertainment consortium, such as Rainbow Media, Turner Networks, Viacom, NBC Universal Media, etc... The task is simple. All you need is one or two hit stations that cable viewers cannot live without. Then, you force cable operators to carry all the excess baggage in order to carry the hit channel.

For example, you want to carry the SyFy Channel... well, the owner of SyFy also owns USA, Oxygen, Bravo, MSNBC, CNBC, mun2, to name a few. If you want SyFy, you'll have to take these other channels, along with their children. And by the way, we want 50 cents per channel... So you end up having to buy 12 channels for 1 channel that you do want, and the content provider gets paid regardless if people watch it or not.

When digital cable came to be, it became a vehicle by which the content generators can create new channels and force them down the throats of the content providers, thereby raising their revenue stream (and your cable bill)

It has nothing to do with having viewers... it all has to do with how the channel is packaged by its owner.

You provide media jobs by being forced to subscribe to things you don't want.


Cheers!
-Doug

anyone else have their box get hosed by the latest update? I went in to the local TWC store today and they said they're aware of the issue, but say to just keep the box plugged in. Apparently it's only the 4250 boxes. They end up saying OCAP, and upon reboot scroll through tons of r### numerics.

I don't know if my box is "hosed" or not but I am really frickin sick of TW constantly rebooting my 4250. Probably once every three days on average over the last three weeks. :mad:

I record with a PC connected to the cable box and have missed a ton of recordings. Anyone know WTF they are doing (it certainly appears that TWC doesn't) ?

I don't know if my box is "hosed" or not but I am really frickin sick of TW constantly rebooting my 4250. Probably once every three days on average over the last three weeks. :mad:

I record with a PC connected to the cable box and have missed a ton of recordings. Anyone know WTF they are doing (it certainly appears that TWC doesn't) ?

You know I was wondering if that was just me or not, but the same thing keeps happening to me. It's really freaking anoying what do you think they're doing?

I've been having SDV issues now. The channels are now pixellating. Only the HD ones are tiling. It's like watching a bad OTA signal. Only the SDV HD channels are affected by this.

I've been having SDV issues now. The channels are now pixellating. Only the HD ones are tiling. It's like watching a bad OTA signal. Only the SDV HD channels are affected by this.

Where are you located? We have had that problem here in Raleigh for quite some time. If you check diags for RS Uncorrected... does it remain zero after a pixelation burst?

Not sure since they fixed it today.

yeah, the constant updates/reboots hosed my recordings until I set up the 4250 to turn on when a channel is changed (works since I use a USB-UIRT channel changer). But the new Samsung box doesn't work that way. I have it set to auto-turn on at a set time each day just in case.

My 4250 is working okay now.

Hey glyph, thanks for the tip ! I never knew there was a setting for that.

Three new HD Channels on TWC-San Diego:
Ch790 CBS-College-Sports-HD
Ch791 Outdoor-Channel-HD
Ch792 Fuse-HD (music)

Two more PPV channels:
Ch1011: VVS Family OnDemand (Old movies for $2-3)
Ch1012: VVS Thriller OnDemand (Old movies for $2-3)

Other changes:
Ch232 BET-Jazz renamed Centric

Now if we (being TWC San Diego) could (finally!) get the ESPNU-HD channel....

For TWC NYC (finally)
On or abut October 25, 2009 we will launch the simulcast, NBA TV HD on ch. 461. This service will be part of our Sports Tier and NBA League Pass offerings.

For the most part, television programming does not display high definition at its best. HDTV looks its very best during commercials. Every hair and blade of grass appears in the finest of detail. The actual programs almost look to to be slightly smoothed over. I imagine the technical people feel this is for the best, but I certainly do not share that feeling.

For the most part, television programming does not display high definition at its best. HDTV looks its very best during commercials. Every hair and blade of grass appears in the finest of detail. The actual programs almost look to to be slightly smoothed over. I imagine the technical people feel this is for the best, but I certainly do not share that feeling.

and the food in the commercials looks much better than the food on the plate when you get to the resturant:rolleyes:

and the food in the commercials looks much better than the food on the plate when you get to the resturant:rolleyes:

Ha... my favorite is Subway, both print and TV ads. What you get looks nothing whatsoever like what they advertise.

Does anyone know if there's a promotional code for NBA League Pass signup through this webpage? http://www.nba.com/leaguepass/signup.jsp

Why does Direct TV broadcast many games on NBA League pass in HD while Time Warner Cable (San Diego) does not broadcast in HD, only SD? Makes me want to change

We have the same problem here in Raleigh/Durham with TWC, really stinks!

Why does Direct TV broadcast many games on NBA League pass in HD while Time Warner Cable (San Diego) does not broadcast in HD, only SD? Makes me want to change

It probably has to do with the distributor, inDemand Networks (which is a jointly owned venture by the cable companies) . They only have 1 HD channel for MLB Extra Innings/NHL Center Ice games (GAME HD), and 1 HD channel for NBA League Pass/MLS Direct Kick, and the 2 hd channels are available only in select markets (all depending on the cable operator on when to add those 2 HD channels). What inDemand needs to do is somehow provide HD feeds of all those games. The reason why DirecTV is able to show all those out of market games in HD, is because they have just about every most major regional sports network, and they just use the feed on the on the regional sports network. In addition a block of channels reserved for each sports league on DirecTV (usually used for games only to be shown on over-the-air stations or cable only stations, like CSN Philadelphia, or COX 4 San Diego). But for the most part, let's say for example, I have DirecTV and subscribe to NBA League Pass. Now living in the San Diego area as I do, if I don't subscribe to NBA LP (on DirecTV), and try to watch the Nuggets on Altitude HD on DirecTV ch. 681 or 682-1, I'd get blacked out from watching the Nuggets (since I'm in the Clippers television territory on an NBA LP channel). Now If I tune into Altitude HD via DirecTV, ch. 681/682-1, subscribed to NBA LP, I could watch the Nuggets on tv without any restriction. It's just that DirecTV has a majority of the regional sports networks in HD, thus more out-of-market games in HD.

I think San Diego will get more HD channels once they get ex Adelphia upgraded to SDV. They must be beta testing the Moto TA's for the UDCP owners. Non TA compatible CableCard devices are SOL. CableCard TV's can use an ancient crippled HD cable box.

Now if we (being TWC San Diego) could (finally!) get the ESPNU-HD channel....

I still want more HD for San Diego. They always seem to pick the wrong channels. San Diego is a fairly big market and they deserve lots of HD. Even Cox has more HD than TWC. Maybe later this year or there's always next year.

Kind of old
October 15th TWC NEO got

Cartoon HD
TCM HD
HLN HD
E! HD
Biography HD
Disney SX HD
Outdoor HD
Fox Business News HD
Style HD
Hallmark Movies HD

Kind of old
October 15th TWC NEO got

Cartoon HD
TCM HD
HLN HD
E! HD
Biography HD
Disney SX HD
Outdoor HD
Fox Business News HD
Style HD
Hallmark Movies HD

And expect these by November 4th:

http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

Look under the post for Sunday October 11th 2009 for the ones comning in November, and there should be more by the end of the year.

Keep that link pasted to your favorites file, as their information is much more reliable than even TWC NEO internet site. Even TWC programming notices there are usually incorrect.

Does anybody really watch the digital standard definition channels that TWC carries? (I try to force myself to surf through them once a month.)

^^
yep, i'll watch spike, VH1, BBCA and the military channel occasionally.
the wife watches the non HD starz channels like encore and the non HD versions of HBO and SHO sometimes. they dont look too terrible on my 60".

the digital tier is also watched alot on our other 3 smaller bedroom TV's

For Cincinnati and Sorrounding Areas:

"Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future.
Inspirational Life, NBA TV, Zap2It, E!, Style, BBC VOD, Game Show Network, Great American Country, Shop NBC, Weather Channel, WKOI, WKRC, Lifetime.


In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:
none


The new service(s) listed below cannot be accessed on CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional, two-way capable equipment:
MSNBC HD, Headline News HD, Travel HD, Weather HD, E! HD, Versus HD, Biography HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, Showtime HD On Demand-Why no HBO OD? Don't they freaking own HBO? December 10 adding Outdoor HD, Cartoon HD, TCM HD, Style HD, BBC America HD, Fox Business HD, WE HD, TV One HD, Planet Green HD, G4 HD, RFD TV, Reelz Channel, Cornerstore TV, Gem Shopping Network, Untamed Sports, GemsTV, ONTV4U


Finally, we are currently involved in discussions regarding the services and/or stations listed below. While we cannot guarantee that we will reach agreement with the relevant programmers and/or broadcasters, we are listing these services/stations here in the event that we are able to start carrying them in the future:
October 27 adding MSNBC HD, Headline News HD, Travel HD, Weather HD, E! HD, Versus HD, Biography HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, AMC HD, Showtime HD on Demand. December 10 adding Outdoor HD, Cartoon HD, TCM HD, Style HD, BBC America HD (OMG I can't wait, woot!), Fox Business HD, WE HD, TV One HD, Planet Green HD, G4 HD, RFD TV, Reelz Channel, Cornerstore TV, Gem Shopping Network, Untamed Sports, GemsTV, ONTV4U"

Posted 10/23/09

We are getting closer to having 100 HD (67 begining Dec 10 2009) channels this is great news! WOOT!

Showtime HD On Demand-Why no HBO OD? Don't they freaking own HBO?

No.. they don't...

Time Warner and Time Warner Cable are 2 completely separate entities.

But the fact that a region is getting an HD (premium) movie on demand channel is a great sign.

No.. they don't...

Time Warner and Time Warner Cable are 2 completely separate entities.

But the fact that a region is getting an HD (premium) movie on demand channel is a great sign.

I knew that they were adding it last week when they had a test on demand folder for showtime hd it had no listings. Im in dallas.

Does anybody really watch the digital standard definition channels that TWC carries? (I try to force myself to surf through them once a month.)I even sometimes record digital SD channels when there is a corresponding HD channel available (because I have TiVos and can only transfer SD programs from my HD TiVo onto my SD TiVo).

Any word on if a deal for the Viacom Suite is near for any TWC areas?

It affects Bright House as they piggyback on all of TWC's deals.

Any word on if a deal for the Viacom Suite is near for any TWC areas?

It affects Bright House as they piggyback on all of TWC's deals.

if there was even a hint of it you'd see a lot of talk about it here.....

We've got nothing.... sadly...

Those bastards...they added "Smithsonian HD on Deman" instead of Showtime...WTF??? I could have sworn I saw Showtime HD on Demand this morning (430am) but now it's gone? I don't get it? It's not on their lineup page either.

Those bastards...they added "Smithsonian HD on Deman" instead of Showtime...WTF??? I could have sworn I saw Showtime HD on Demand this morning (430am) but now it's gone? I don't get it? It's not on their lineup page either.

it was probably always supposed to be Smithsonian OnDemand - we have that in NYC

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/10/22/nbatv.release/index.html

NBA TV is supposed to move off the sports tier.... sometime soon...

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/10/22/nbatv.release/index.html

NBA TV is supposed to move off the sports tier.... sometime soon...Well, if this is handled anything like the way MLB was implemented by TWC/LA (where they do not have a "Digital Basic" offering that does not cost extra but is just a basic level of service that is the minimum you can pay and get so-called digital channels), we'll get screwed again out here.

MLB's arrangement with the providers was to make it available "AT NO CHARGE, AS LONG AS YOU HAD DIGITAL BASIC". Well, since TWC/LA has no such thing as "digital basic", they decided to stash MLB in the Variety Tier ($5/month) which 85% of LA subscribers pay for. If you were in that 85% you got it "for free". If you didn't (like me), you had to add Variety Tier for $5/month to get MLB.

This wasn't what MLB really wanted, but apparently TWC/LA convinced them that it was "close enough" (i.e. reaching 85% of LA at no additional charge, over and above what those subscribers were already paying).

So, my guess is that if/when NBA moves out of where it is right now in TWC/LA, in Sports Tier (yes, another $5/month), that it will have no place to go "for free" other than the same Variety Tier (for $5/month, but which 85% of LA already pays for) that got MLB.

Personally, I'd like to see Tennis Channel available for free (it's not... it's in Sports Tier). Don't know why Golf Channel is truly available for no charge (i.e. it is in "Basic Cable", which for some crazy reason is not considered "Digital Basic" by TWC/LA even though it actually is the lowest-level digital service) but MLB and NBA and Tennis and NHL are priced.

Note: TWC/LA considers "digital basic" to be "basic cable" plus one of the $5/month optional tiers. That's how they conned MLB into accepting this Variety Tier crap, even though MLB wanted to reach 90 million "digital basic" people at ZERO additional charge. 85% of LA who'd already chosen Variety Tier was "close enough".

Considering that Time Warner is part owner in MLB Network, I don't think there was any con game going on.

Considering that Time Warner is part owner in MLB Network, I don't think there was any con game going on.

TW divested TW CABLE, so it may not be that the cable unit got ownership. Far as I know, it was ONLY the cable operations...

TW divested TW CABLE, so it may not be that the cable unit got ownership. Far as I know, it was ONLY the cable operations...

TWC doesn't have any ownership in any national networks (just a few local cable ones) - although this depends on how you define SNY.

MLB Network launched before the split though.

Is there anything on MLB Network worth watching? They did this big run up to the start at the beginning of the year, made a big deal of it being 'everything baseball' and even added a few live games on Thursdays and Saturdays.

I watched it at the start, but my feelings for the channel have gone meeh.

Maybe the highlights on Baseball Tonight or SportsCenter on ESPN seem to be enough for me. Maybe it's because I live in San DIego and the Padres haven't been too interesting the last two seasons (63 and 75 wins - we got used to 82+ wins in the four years since Petco Park opened and the playoff chases).

just got today

IDHD
truHD
TCMHD
HLNHD
MSNBCH
BBCAHD

just got today

IDHD
truHD
TCMHD
HLNHD
MSNBCH
BBCAHD

Don't forget HBO2 HD!

Looks like Charlotte area is getting the rest of the HBOs in HD next month, along with SHO Too, ActionMAX, IFC, Cartoon, CNBC World (?), and We.

Is there anything on MLB Network worth watching? They did this big run up to the start at the beginning of the year, made a big deal of it being 'everything baseball' and even added a few live games on Thursdays and Saturdays.

I watched it at the start, but my feelings for the channel have gone meeh.

Maybe the highlights on Baseball Tonight or SportsCenter on ESPN seem to be enough for me. Maybe it's because I live in San DIego and the Padres haven't been too interesting the last two seasons (63 and 75 wins - we got used to 82+ wins in the four years since Petco Park opened and the playoff chases).

Whether it's MLB, NBA or NFL, if it's only a few games over an entire year, it's a huge waste of bandwidth.

Recently, I had to leave my cablecard and move to the TWC converter box (Motorola). While surfing up and down the channels, the unsubscribed premium channels show up and I would like to skip them. Is the only way to do that through the parental lock feature?

I have an SA4250 box and tried the parental lock to skip channels. It doesn't skip but puts up a "channel blocked" screen :mad:

If there is any way to program skipping channels I would love to know.

I second that. I wish there was a way to just skip completely over them when flipping through so you don't have to worry about that dreaded "Call TWC 1-800#s"...some one please tells us a fix? Or we may have to ask TWC for a software fix I'm sure it's easy to do right?

Whether it's MLB, NBA or NFL, if it's only a few games over an entire year, it's a huge waste of bandwidth.

NFL may be just a few live games - but MLB is at least 2 a week for 6 months...

and NBA is 4-5 games a week for 6 months....

NFL may be just a few live games - but MLB is at least 2 a week for 6 months...

and NBA is 4-5 games a week for 6 months....

Good point on NBA and to a large extent, MLB. I wasn't aware of that. NFLHD is still an issue with me, however.

We had NFLHD at our daughter's house this summer. It is a complete waste of time. It is a bunch of ex players types telling me what they think. UGH! Of course they do show some (8 games a year) football but the whole NFL model means it does not matter what they show. On a weekend with no byes the NFL has 16 games to show. At best most of us will see 5 of them. The other 11 are not available for us to see. The people who want to see all those games have already left cable and gone to a dish. There may be a few around who can't have a dish but that does not mean a cable co should put the NFLHD on everybody. I rarely agree with TWC but in this case I do.

The only thing that NFL Network has going for it now, besides the live games, is the ability of cable companies to sell the Red Zone channel. Unfortunately, all the RZ channel shows are live look ins that the NHL, MLB, and NBA already include on their main channels.
Other than the live games, I agree that the programming on NFL Network is garbage.

I have an SA4250 box and tried the parental lock to skip channels. It doesn't skip but puts up a "channel blocked" screen :mad:

If there is any way to program skipping channels I would love to know.

RE: TWC. I've asked that question here and other places. For the Motorola box I have, the answer is "NO".

The only thing that NFL Network has going for it now, besides the live games, is the ability of cable companies to sell the Red Zone channel. Unfortunately, all the RZ channel shows are live look ins that the NHL, MLB, and NBA already include on their main channels.
Other than the live games, I agree that the programming on NFL Network is garbage.
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NFL? NFL Network? NFL?

The whole sport of professional football has become so lackluster, boring, routine and uninteresting that I no longer care--or bother to watch.

Bad stuff.

Is there anything on MLB Network worth watching? They did this big run up to the start at the beginning of the year, made a big deal of it being 'everything baseball' and even added a few live games on Thursdays and Saturdays.

I watched it at the start, but my feelings for the channel have gone meeh.

Maybe the highlights on Baseball Tonight or SportsCenter on ESPN seem to be enough for me. Maybe it's because I live in San DIego and the Padres haven't been too interesting the last two seasons (63 and 75 wins - we got used to 82+ wins in the four years since Petco Park opened and the playoff chases).



The Padres aside (sorry for your geographical sports location though San Diego continues to be a GREAT place sports aside!), I think that the MLB Network does a commendable job. Varied programming. Interesting and informed hosts. Great insight into the sport (and MLB is a very good sport--as opposed to the NFL).

However, the first couple of weeks last January were AWFUL. NY Yankees this and NY Yankees that. Who cares what goes on east of the Hudson River? Not me--and I'm not alone. However, after the first month (and, I'm sure, some hot negative feedback) the MLB folk finally decided to cover BASEBALL and that include all 30 teams--even the KC Royals. MLB made a mistake in putting the MLB Network studio in NJ. Ouch. Should have been in the mid-west.

So, given everything and as a baseball-only network, the MLB Network is pretty good if you like/love/understand the sport.

Pretty darned good ('til they become the YES Network wannabee once again).

I have an SA4250 box and tried the parental lock to skip channels. It doesn't skip but puts up a "channel blocked" screen :mad:

If there is any way to program skipping channels I would love to know.

About the best you can do is not program them as favorites and then use the FAV button in place of the CH UP function.

The Padres aside (sorry for your geographical sports location though San Diego continues to be a GREAT place sports aside!), I think that the MLB Network does a commendable job. Varied programming. Interesting and informed hosts. Great insight into the sport (and MLB is a very good sport--as opposed to the NFL).

However, the first couple of weeks last January were AWFUL. NY Yankees this and NY Yankees that. Who cares what goes on east of the Hudson River? Not me--and I'm not alone. However, after the first month (and, I'm sure, some hot negative feedback) the MLB folk finally decided to cover BASEBALL and that include all 30 teams--even the KC Royals. MLB made a mistake in putting the MLB Network studio in NJ. Ouch. Should have been in the mid-west.

So, given everything and as a baseball-only network, the MLB Network is pretty good if you like/love/understand the sport.

Pretty darned good ('til they become the YES Network wannabee once again).

Maybe sports doesn't interest me as much as it used to.

As for Yankees this and Yankees that in January - who's still playing ball in October/November - right, those DAMN Yankees, so someone in that organization got it right! :D

As for being in Jersey, MLB bought the the old MSNBC broadcast facility in Secaucus and reconfigured it for their needs - which was probably cheaper than building from scratch.

I for one like MLB Network. In fact, that is pretty much the only network I watch for baseball highlights as opposed to ESPN. With MLB network, they show just about every important highlight from every game, and not just the ones involving teams east of the Hudson River. Plus MLB Network shows a lot of games during the season (and its not always the Red Sox/Yankees/Mets, so in my opinion MLB Network is a plus for me. NBA TV isn't a waste of bandwith either. NBA TV show lots of games throughout the season, usually on Mondays, Tuesdays, Saturdays, Sundays. I don't know enough about NHL Network to make an opionion of it. But NBA TV and MLB Network have much more live sporting events on their networks than NFL Network's 8 games a season.

Rio Grande Valley added 27 new HD channels.

A&E HD – Channel 1458
ABC Family HD – Channel 1105
Animal Planet HD – Channel 1253
Bravo HD – Channel 1455
CNBC HD – Channel 1354
CNN HD – Channel 1350
Discovery HD – Channel 1252
Disney HD – Channel 1126
ESPNews HD – Channel 1303
Food Network HD – Channel 1209
FOX News HD – Channel 1356
Golf HD – Channel 1311
Hallmark Movie HD – Channel 1425
HGTV HD – Channel 1208
History Channel HD – Channel 1255
LMN HD – Channel 1203
MLB HD – Channel 1320
MSNBC HD – Channel 1353
Palladia HD – Channel 1511
Science Channel HD – Channel 1272
Syfy HD – Channel 1450
TLC HD – Channel 1251
Travel Channel – Channel 1210
USA HD – Channel 1400
Versus HD – Channel 1314
Weather Channel – Channel 1364

Hope this helps.

Funny, we're all pretty much in agreement as to the value of the NFL HD channel. It wasn't this way a year or two ago when a number of people thought they might actually miss a couple more tv football games. ............ I feel like I'm seeing all I can handle, now.

I for one like MLB Network. In fact, that is pretty much the only network I watch for baseball highlights as opposed to ESPN. With MLB network, they show just about every important highlight from every game, and not just the ones involving teams east of the Hudson River. Plus MLB Network shows a lot of games during the season (and its not always the Red Sox/Yankees/Mets, so in my opinion MLB Network is a plus for me. NBA TV isn't a waste of bandwith either. NBA TV show lots of games throughout the season, usually on Mondays, Tuesdays, Saturdays, Sundays. I don't know enough about NHL Network to make an opionion of it. But NBA TV and MLB Network have much more live sporting events on their networks than NFL Network's 8 games a season.

I agree about the MLB Network. Like I posted above, it has gotten much better after the first month mimicking YES. I'm a big fan...and I've probably sold more people on watching it than I care to think about.

Location of studios: I've been by the building in NJ & realize that it was MSNBC at one time. I still think it would have been better (and probably cheaper) to have established the Network in, say, St. Louis or Cleveland or even Chicago instead. These are good baseball areas. Makes more sense to me rather than being in the nyc orbit.

Funny, we're all pretty much in agreement as to the value of the NFL HD channel. It wasn't this way a year or two ago when a number of people thought they might actually miss a couple more tv football games. ............ I feel like I'm seeing all I can handle, now.

As noted, now with RedZone, the value of NFL Network has increased dramatically.

You haven't seen RedZone yet, have you? All I can say is until you've seen it, reserve your judgment.

Even if the 8 regular season games and RedZone were all they had to offer, I believe most NFL fans feel they are a necessity.

Having said that, I find myself watching some of the other programming, in particular I like NFL Replay:

Mondays at 7:00 PM ET

Tuesdays & Wednesdays at 8:00 & 10:30 PM ET

NFL game broadcasts from the previous weekend, complete with original television announcers and cameras are re-televised on NFL Network just days after their live airing.

During the 2007 season, NFL Replay features five of the most exciting games from the weekend, airing exclusively on NFL Network Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday evenings.

The first NFL Replay game each week airs on Monday at 7:00 PM ET followed by two contests shown each Tuesday and Wednesday night with 8:00 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. ET kickoff times.

NFL Replay games air in a 90-minute fast-paced format, without halftime and other elements not critical to the outcome.

In order to give the games context, NFL Network adds sideline and on-field sound captured during the game and post-game press conference sound bites.

Other enhancements include exclusive shots and camera angles from NFL Films, allowing fans an inside look at game action they did not see on Sunday. This gives fans a deeper understanding of the game, the players and the coaches.

For example, if NFL Replay was featuring the Cowboys-Seahawks NFC Wild Card game where Tony Romo fumbled the field goal snap late in the game, viewers would see related comments from Romo, coach Bill Parcells and others immediately after the play, as well as slow-motion footage showing the play as it unfolded.

NFL Network has the ability to select any NFL game for use on NFL Replay.

I agree about the MLB Network. Like I posted above, it has gotten much better after the first month mimicking YES. I'm a big fan...and I've probably sold more people on watching it than I care to think about.

Location of studios: I've been by the building in NJ & realize that it was MSNBC at one time. I still think it would have been better (and probably cheaper) to have established the Network in, say, St. Louis or Cleveland or even Chicago instead. These are good baseball areas. Makes more sense to me rather than being in the nyc orbit.

Um...

I'm sure most of the people on the network itself (like.. Bob Costas) are much happier that the studios are in the NYC area.

It really shouldn't matter where the studios are from a viewer perspective - you are making something out of nothing.

I saw a division in KY that only has 7 HD channels!

Um...

I'm sure most of the people on the network itself (like.. Bob Costas) are much happier that the studios are in the NYC area.

It really shouldn't matter where the studios are from a viewer perspective - you are making something out of nothing.

Wrong. Sorry.

Actually, I'm making something out of something.

The farther from NYC an entity is, the less likely a bias. ESPN has taken heat for many number of years for its NE-centric reporting and silly biases. Now that they run a SportsCenter from Los Angeles, much of that crap has abated.

Thankfully.

Oh, BTW, last I heard, Bob Costas lives in the St. Louis area.

The world does not, unfortunately for you, revolve around nyc.

Sorry. Again.

Wrong. Sorry.

Actually, I'm making something out of something.

The farther from NYC an entity is, the less likely a bias. ESPN has taken heat for many number of years for its NE-centric reporting and silly biases. Now that they run a SportsCenter from Los Angeles, much of that crap has abated.

Thankfully.

Oh, BTW, last I heard, Bob Costas lives in the St. Louis area.

The world does not, unfortunately for you, revolve around nyc.

Sorry. Again.

This Bias you speak of is a matter of opinion....

but whatever....

You try and put a national cable station in the middle of 'nowhere' - you wont find many people who will want to work for it.

I saw a division in KY that only has 7 HD channels!

I lived in a division in OH that only had 10 HD channels!! ;)

I lived in a division in OH that only had 10 HD channels!! ;)

I lived in a division that had had 2 TBS HDs

Former Adelphia division for the lose

I lived in a division that had had 2 TBS HDs

Former Adelphia division for the lose

just because TBS hd was on 2 channels doesn't mean it was taking up twice the bandwidth.

They can assign one channel to as many virtual channels as they want to.

For a while we in NYC had the main primary movie networks assigned to 2 channels each (when they were adding the additional HD movie channels) - but they never took up twice the bandwidth - they were still only being sent out once.

In SC (Time Warner) we got the UM/ILL game in HD on ESPN2 and the Miami game was on ABC in HD. At night the USC/Ducks game was only on SD ESPN2 and the Texas game was on ABC in HD. Anyone know why? ESPN2HD was blocked with ESPN News.

Funny, we're all pretty much in agreement as to the value of the NFL HD channel. It wasn't this way a year or two ago when a number of people thought they might actually miss a couple more tv football games. ............ I feel like I'm seeing all I can handle, now.

I recall getting upset, but learned (and have seen) that at least your local team wouldn't get blacked out, so one can always watch their local team (mostly, we have 2 of' em and this year twice already they pit them against each other... although with how they played yesterday, both were a total waste!).

I recall getting upset, but learned (and have seen) that at least your local team wouldn't get blacked out, so one can always watch their local team (mostly, we have 2 of' em and this year twice already they pit them against each other... although with how they played yesterday, both were a total waste!).

I'm sure its gotta blow living in New York City with regards to watching NFL football. If I'm not mistaken, if 1 New York team is playing a early game (eg:Jets), with the other New York team playing a late game (eg: Giants), that would mean you'd only get 2 games normally whenever WNYW and WCBS are televising games from their respective networks. The same goes for the San Francisco Bay Area with regards to the 49ers and Raiders (although lately, no one has been going to Raider games, so for their sake in the Bay Area, the Raiders have been getting blacked out, so they've been getting better games on local tv there). Obviously if you're a fan of those teams it doesn't really matter. I'm sure it would it would bug people who are fans of other teams, (which was the point that I was getting at).

I'm sure its gotta blow living in New York City with regards to watching NFL football. If I'm not mistaken, if 1 New York team is playing a early game (eg:Jets), with the other New York team playing a late game (eg: Giants), that would mean you'd only get 2 games normally whenever WNYW and WCBS are televising games from their respective networks. The same goes for the San Francisco Bay Area with regards to the 49ers and Raiders (although lately, no one has been going to Raider games, so for their sake in the Bay Area, the Raiders have been getting blacked out, so they've been getting better games on local tv there). Obviously if you're a fan of those teams it doesn't really matter. I'm sure it would it would bug people who are fans of other teams, (which was the point that I was getting at).

That's not exactly it.

The rule is no game can air opposite a local market team home game.

So - If the network with the doubleheader has a NY team with a home game - then NYC will get 3 games. If the singleheader network has the NY home game - then there are only 2 games that day for that market (this goes for every NFL city - it just comes up more often in NY and the Bay Area since they have 2 teams)

This rule can be waived by the NFL when special circumstances forces them (such as Week 1 when CBS only has 1pm games due to the US Open Finals - cities with a home game on FOX at 1pm still get a 1pm CBS game since everyone is guaranteed 1 game on each network)
They have waived this rule twice this year for NYC - back in September when they moved the Jets home game to 1pm due to Yom Kippur starting that night (and with a Jets home game the previous week on Rosh Hashonah - many local ticket holders were losing out on the first 2 game of the season) - and now this week the Giants/Eagles were moved to 1pm at the same time as the Jets home game due to the security and parking logistic problems in Philly created by the World Series.

Rio Grande Valley added 27 new HD channels.

A&E HD – Channel 1458
ABC Family HD – Channel 1105
Animal Planet HD – Channel 1253
Bravo HD – Channel 1455
CNBC HD – Channel 1354
CNN HD – Channel 1350
Discovery HD – Channel 1252
Disney HD – Channel 1126
ESPNews HD – Channel 1303
Food Network HD – Channel 1209
FOX News HD – Channel 1356
Golf HD – Channel 1311
Hallmark Movie HD – Channel 1425
HGTV HD – Channel 1208
History Channel HD – Channel 1255
LMN HD – Channel 1203
MLB HD – Channel 1320
MSNBC HD – Channel 1353
Palladia HD – Channel 1511
Science Channel HD – Channel 1272
Syfy HD – Channel 1450
TLC HD – Channel 1251
Travel Channel – Channel 1210
USA HD – Channel 1400
Versus HD – Channel 1314
Weather Channel – Channel 1364

Hope this helps.

Wow your division is really late in the game, most division have had these channels for awhile. It's a shame all the local divisions can't be on the same page. It would be nice, but hey you guys got them now. Better late than never! :D

This Bias you speak of is a matter of opinion....

but whatever....

You try and put a national cable station in the middle of 'nowhere' - you wont find many people who will want to work for it.



Build it. Broadcast it.

They will come.

"Nowhere" is only a matter of opinion.

Wow your division is really late in the game, most division have had these channels for awhile. It's a shame all the local divisions can't be on the same page. It would be nice, but hey you guys got them now. Better late than never! :D

Actually that's not my division. I live in San Diego, CA.

Actually that's not my division. I live in San Diego, CA.

Those look like all the channels we got over the last few months in NE Ohio. That division must have just started SDV.

That's not exactly it.

The rule is no game can air opposite a local market team home game.

So - If the network with the doubleheader has a NY team with a home game - then NYC will get 3 games. If the singleheader network has the NY home game - then there are only 2 games that day for that market (this goes for every NFL city - it just comes up more often in NY and the Bay Area since they have 2 teams)

This rule can be waived by the NFL when special circumstances forces them (such as Week 1 when CBS only has 1pm games due to the US Open Finals - cities with a home game on FOX at 1pm still get a 1pm CBS game since everyone is guaranteed 1 game on each network)
They have waived this rule twice this year for NYC - back in September when they moved the Jets home game to 1pm due to Yom Kippur starting that night (and with a Jets home game the previous week on Rosh Hashonah - many local ticket holders were losing out on the first 2 game of the season) - and now this week the Giants/Eagles were moved to 1pm at the same time as the Jets home game due to the security and parking logistic problems in Philly created by the World Series.

I can only say that this is a MASSIVE change then when I lived in NJ(1975-1995).

The NY Jets and NY Giants, back then, and I think the same is true now, NEVER play at the same time(both don't have 1pm or 4pm starts, ever), whether they are home or not.

So if the Giants and jets both play on Sunday, and neither one is playing in primetime, one of them will start at 1pm and the other will start 4pm. Always.

And the kicker is, since they are both HOME in the NYC market, there is no game opposite the game currently on, so you get just one. And boy, did that SUCK during the 80's-90's when the Jets were just G*d awful(still are IMHO. I am a closet Giant fan having grown up in NJ, but the Steelers are still #1).

Now unless that has changed(the team playing at the Meadowlands is considered home, and therefore the team on the road has a game opposite them).

Here in Western PA, that is not the case. When the Steelers are on, they are the only show in town. Then there are usually 2 games playing opposite each other at 1pm or 4pm, depending on when the Steeler game is(and if they are in primetime, we would get 3-4 games between FOX and CBS).

I can only say that this is a MASSIVE change then when I lived in NJ(1975-1995).

The NY Jets and NY Giants, back then, and I think the same is true now, NEVER play at the same time(both don't have 1pm or 4pm starts, ever), whether they are home or not.

So if the Giants and jets both play on Sunday, and neither one is playing in primetime, one of them will start at 1pm and the other will start 4pm. Always.

And the kicker is, since they are both HOME in the NYC market, there is no game opposite the game currently on, so you get just one. And boy, did that SUCK during the 80's-90's when the Jets were just G*d awful(still are IMHO. I am a closet Giant fan having grown up in NJ, but the Steelers are still #1).

Now unless that has changed(the team playing at the Meadowlands is considered home, and therefore the team on the road has a game opposite them).

Here in Western PA, that is not the case. When the Steelers are on, they are the only show in town. Then there are usually 2 games playing opposite each other at 1pm or 4pm, depending on when the Steeler game is(and if they are in primetime, we would get 3-4 games between FOX and CBS).

They (almost) never play at the same time thanks to the rule. They have made 2 exceptions this season.
(Technically, if both are on the road they could be at the same time - NFL TV preference is to avoid it though)

Those look like all the channels we got over the last few months in NE Ohio. That division must have just started SDV.

no SDV yet. They are a 870MHz system like most of the texas twc systems.

I can only say that this is a MASSIVE change then when I lived in NJ(1975-1995).

The NY Jets and NY Giants, back then, and I think the same is true now, NEVER play at the same time(both don't have 1pm or 4pm starts, ever), whether they are home or not.

No fooling... far as I know, the Jewish high holidays always fall in the fall during football season, but were never used as an excuse. AND they could have run the Jets game at 4:15 this past weekend, I'd bet you 95% of the Jets fans would rather see them at that time than watch Favre in Green Bay and miss the Jets game.

No fooling... far as I know, the Jewish high holidays always fall in the fall during football season, but were never used as an excuse. AND they could have run the Jets game at 4:15 this past weekend, I'd bet you 95% of the Jets fans would rather see them at that time than watch Favre in Green Bay and miss the Jets game.

More often then not the High Holidays fall out in the middle of the week.
And this was an issue of poor planning where the first 2 home games were back to back and on those days. It doesn't happen often. AND it also included a Jets home game at 4pm for the 2nd game - which also doesn't happen alot.

And as for moving the Jets this past Sunday - that was CBS's decision (and would've affected a large chunk of the national schedule - not just NYC - and also would've meant that the GB-Min game would have not been on in NYC) - and I'm not sure what you are talking about missing the Jets game

They have waived this rule twice this year for NYC - back in September when they moved the Jets home game to 1pm due to Yom Kippur starting that night (and with a Jets home game the previous week on Rosh Hashonah - many local ticket holders were losing out on the first 2 game of the season) - and now this week the Giants/Eagles were moved to 1pm at the same time as the Jets home game due to the security and parking logistic problems in Philly created by the World Series.

Giants / Eagles was originally supposed to be the 'National Game' on Fox at 4:15. The network used the World Series as an excuse to move Packers / Vikings to 4:15 and show that to the nation instead.

There is PLENTY of parking down by the Sports Complex. It was a lame excuse to boost ratings to make a buck. Don't let anyone tell you different.

Cheers!
-Doug

More often then not the High Holidays fall out in the middle of the week.
And this was an issue of poor planning where the first 2 home games were back to back and on those days. It doesn't happen often. AND it also included a Jets home game at 4pm for the 2nd game - which also doesn't happen alot.

And as for moving the Jets this past Sunday - that was CBS's decision (and would've affected a large chunk of the national schedule - not just NYC - and also would've meant that the GB-Min game would have not been on in NYC) - and I'm not sure what you are talking about missing the Jets game

I should have said they HAVE fallen on weekends with games being moved. I meant Giants HAD to be moved back to 1, but they COUILD have moved the Jets to 4... at least in their home market. I dare say the vast majority of local Jets fans would prefer to watch their them play than GB-Min. SURE DVR folks got to see both home teams, but again, not both home teams AND GB-Min... remember, there was a Yankee game on that night!

I can only say that this is a MASSIVE change then when I lived in NJ(1975-1995).

The NY Jets and NY Giants, back then, and I think the same is true now, NEVER play at the same time(both don't have 1pm or 4pm starts, ever), whether they are home or not.



Back then, Sunday Night Football didn't exist, so there wasn't a prime time to play in. Besides, the NY teams rarely made Monday Night Football, so it was always NY Teams at 1 and 4, and no good second game. Things have changed, and we in NY are now more likely to get the second out-of-market game.

To this day, people don't understand how bad it was. I vividly remember watching football at 1, and the announcer would EXPLICITLY say that everyone will be seeing Oakland / Denver, except those in New York, because we HAD to had the Giants on CBS at 4.

I meant Giants HAD to be moved back to 1, but they COUILD have moved the Jets to 4... at least in their home market. I dare say the vast majority of local Jets fans would prefer to watch their them play than GB-Min. SURE DVR folks got to see both home teams, but again, not both home teams AND GB-Min... remember, there was a Yankee game on that night!

Moving the Jets to 4 pm does not change a thing. If they moved the Jets to 4pm, the Giants would still be playing at 4pm down in Philly, and there would still be traffic issues (allegedly)...

If they moved the Giants to 1 pm, and the Jets to 4 pm, then yes, GB-MIN would be N/A in NYC, and only because the Jets would be playing at home. Not sure what other markets would have been affected by the change. There are some markets that get the junk (non DH network) 4pm games because of the 1 pm games being shown.

Moving the Jets to 4 pm does not change a thing. If they moved the Jets to 4pm, the Giants would still be playing at 4pm down in Philly, and there would still be traffic issues (allegedly)...

If they moved the Giants to 1 pm, and the Jets to 4 pm, then yes, GB-MIN would be N/A in NYC, and only because the Jets would be playing at home. Not sure what other markets would have been affected by the change. There are some markets that get the junk (non DH network) 4pm games because of the 1 pm games being shown.

Well, it's over and done with and given how BADLY it went, it almost would have been better NOT to suffer through either game!

new HD Channels in North East Ohio/Western PA


455 Planet Green HD
482 G4 HD
487 MSNBC HD
489 TWC HD
490 BBC America HD
491 WE HD
492 TV One HD
760 TEAM HD

looks like there is some sort of national synchronicity with the HD channel rollouts

TWC plans to eliminate STBs, step up Promotions on Demand
By Brian Santo
CedMagazine.com - November 05, 2009
Time Warner Cable reported an increase in revenue, said it has a long-term plan to eliminate set-top boxes in favor of gateway-like devices, and is on the verge of a wider rollout of its Promotions on Demand interactive advertising feature. The company also reiterated its support for Canoe Ventures.

Time Warner Cable reported a 4 percent increase in revenue to $4.5 billion, compared with its third quarter a year ago. The company lost basic subscribers but migrated more of its remaining customers into bundles, leading to overall RGU (revenue-generating unit) growth.

Net income was down to $268 million from $301 million a year ago, largely a result of the special dividend that former parent Time Warner Inc. forced TWC to pay to finance its own spin-off.

Capital spending is down from a year ago, the company reported. For the first nine months of 2009, total capex totaled $2.3 billion, an 11 percent decrease compared with the first nine months of 2008. It is now 17 percent of revenue, down from 20 percent in ’08.

more at
http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-TWC-STB-Promotion-on-Demand-110509.aspx

TWC plans to eliminate STBs, step up Promotions on Demand
By Brian Santo
CedMagazine.com - November 05, 2009
Time Warner Cable reported an increase in revenue, said it has a long-term plan to eliminate set-top boxes in favor of gateway-like devices, and is on the verge of a wider rollout of its Promotions on Demand interactive advertising feature. The company also reiterated its support for Canoe Ventures.

Time Warner Cable reported a 4 percent increase in revenue to $4.5 billion, compared with its third quarter a year ago. The company lost basic subscribers but migrated more of its remaining customers into bundles, leading to overall RGU (revenue-generating unit) growth.

Net income was down to $268 million from $301 million a year ago, largely a result of the special dividend that former parent Time Warner Inc. forced TWC to pay to finance its own spin-off.

Capital spending is down from a year ago, the company reported. For the first nine months of 2009, total capex totaled $2.3 billion, an 11 percent decrease compared with the first nine months of 2008. It is now 17 percent of revenue, down from 20 percent in ’08.

more at
http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-TWC-STB-Promotion-on-Demand-110509.aspx

How would this work if you had a DVR in terms of recording and playback?

Jack

Sounds like a load of crap. If that ever gets off they ground, I'm out.

How would this work if you had a DVR in terms of recording and playback?

JackThere's been a lot of talk about centralized recording by the cable company. Playback would be like on-demand.

Any word if any TWC affiliates are going to add the viacom suite?

Probably not as TWC seems to be in protest with Viacom. There are a few anti viacom people who like the idea of TWC not adding it. I too would like to have Comedy Central HD but no. If it does happen it would likely be next year.

What are gateway - like devices?

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/10/22/nbatv.release/index.html

NBA TV is supposed to move off the sports tier.... sometime soon...

And its happening in NYC on December 7th

One more HD Channel added to my lineup today but it is exclusive to the Western PA region
FSN Pittsburgh HD

And its happening in NYC on December 7th

Just out of curiosity which tier are they going to move NBA TV in your area? There's no such thing as "basic" tier, in the wonderful world that is Time Warner Cable. I remember with MLB Network in the Time Warner Southern California region, through other posters on this site, they put MLB Network in the "Variety" tier. Although where I live in, in North San Diego County, MLB Network is available in both the "Sports Package" tier and "Variety Package" tier. Although oddly enough, and I'm not complaining, we don't subscribe to either of those tiers and still get MLB Network. It seems like the leagues have screwed itself in defining on what a basic tier is with Time Warner Cable.

Just out of curiosity which tier are they going to move NBA TV in your area? There's no such thing as "basic" tier, in the wonderful world that is Time Warner Cable. I remember with MLB Network in the Time Warner Southern California region, through other posters on this site, they put MLB Network in the "Variety" tier. Although where I live in, in North San Diego County, MLB Network is available in both the "Sports Package" tier and "Variety Package" tier. Although oddly enough, and I'm not complaining, we don't subscribe to either of those tiers and still get MLB Network. It seems like the leagues have screwed itself in defining on what a basic tier is with Time Warner Cable.

you obviously have a unique situation from most Time Warner Cable area.

In NYC is DTValue (same as MLB Network and many other channels) - its the basic digital tier (even though we don't have analog service beyond the most basic channels - they still package the channels as if they still do - there is basic, standard, then DTValue)

http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/4/50/Content%20Management/Documents/Learn/CLUs_1009_Manhattan.pdf

Seems to me NYC also has it's share of confusing packages. We have an HDXtra tier which includes some or maybe all of the channels from the Sports Tier. Not to mention that it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere "officially."

Just out of curiosity which tier are they going to move NBA TV in your area? There's no such thing as "basic" tier, in the wonderful world that is Time Warner Cable. I remember with MLB Network in the Time Warner Southern California region, through other posters on this site, they put MLB Network in the "Variety" tier. Although where I live in, in North San Diego County, MLB Network is available in both the "Sports Package" tier and "Variety Package" tier. Although oddly enough, and I'm not complaining, we don't subscribe to either of those tiers and still get MLB Network. It seems like the leagues have screwed itself in defining on what a basic tier is with Time Warner Cable.

The weird thing is that TWC San Diego (non Adelphia) HAD NBA TV in HD (channel 713). Went away about a year ago.

We still have the regular channel (413). Channel 713 mostly had a static message screen about "tune into this channel when we have programming on that channel". No clue these people. :mad:

The weird thing is that TWC San Diego (non Adelphia) HAD NBA TV in HD (channel 713). Went away about a year ago.

We still have the regular channel (413). Channel 713 mostly had a static message screen about "tune into this channel when we have programming on that channel". No clue these people. :mad:

We were supposed to get NBATVHD in NYC about a year ago and didn't - it was just recently added for the first time.

You probably lost it for the same reason we never got it in the first place - and hopefully should see it added again soon.

We were supposed to get NBATVHD in NYC about a year ago and didn't - it was just recently added for the first time.

You probably lost it for the same reason we never got it in the first place - and hopefully should see it added again soon.

Well, it was originally only supposed to be available in our market to those who paid extra for the Sports or the HDXtra tiers... now it's supposed to be available to all.

Frankly, I'd rather they put it back on those tiers and give us Smithsonian... but that won't happen!

Does anyone know if Time Warner Cable has rolled out DOCSIS 3.0 in its Los Angeles-served market yet? Thanks!

Well, as far as I could glean from a quick Google search, DOCSIS 3.0 roll-outs have been suspended (is this still accurate?), somewhat due to customer backlash from a threatened, tiered-pricing structure for the higher-speed internet service. None of the four test markets planned (San Antonio, TX; Austin, TX; Greensboro, NC; and Rochester, NY) included Los Angeles. Near-future plans for a DOCSIS 3.0 roll-out in TimeWarner's system is unknown.

Does anyone know if Time Warner Cable has rolled out DOCSIS 3.0 in its Los Angeles-served market yet? Thanks!

Well, as far as I could glean from a quick Google search, DOCSIS 3.0 roll-outs have been suspended (is this still accurate?), somewhat due to customer backlash from a threatened, tiered-pricing structure for the higher-speed internet service. None of the four test markets planned (San Antonio, TX; Austin, TX; Greensboro, NC; and Rochester, NY) included Los Angeles. Near-future plans for a DOCSIS 3.0 roll-out in TimeWarner's system is unknown.

no they have not they are now deploying it in NYC, soon in buffalo, syracuse.

I have heard that DFW is getting it next year. So LA should get it next year.

no they have not they are now deploying it in NYC, soon in buffalo, syracuse.

I have heard that DFW is getting it next year. So LA should get it next year.

Think I read the same thing about them "going to" roll it out here. BUT the only point would be to offer a much higher speed tier, like 100 bucks for 50 Mb/s. STILL can't get close to competing with FiOS, but they also probably know the actual FiOS rollout (here) has virtually been stopped.

Was going to ask how one might be able to tell, figured it had to be by querying the modem. Here it gets interesting... I had a web address I somehow got years and years ago. BUT about a year ago I HAD upgraded to a combo modem that does telephjone as well as IP. So i gave oit a shot... whatddya know, it WORKED!

http://192.168.100.1/

I have NO idea if that works anywhere else, but ya got nothing to lose. Bottom line is it seems to be still DOCSIS 1.x:

Downstream
Freq/Power: 687.000 MHz -7 dBmV
Signal to Noise Ratio: 33 dB
Modulation: QAM256
Upstream
Freq/Power: 33.000 MHz 43 dBmV
Channel Type: DOCSIS 1.x (TDMA)
Symbol Rate: 2560 kSym/sec
Modulation: QAM16

Including that http address sent off a phishing alert in my email program.

Including that http address sent off a phishing alert in my email program.

It shouldn't. That is just an internal IP that goes to your cable modem. Must be some security software you have installed that is overreacting.

Actually my ISP, Earthlink marked it as phishing and Windows Live Mail would not allow clicking on any link in it.

Think I read the same thing about them "going to" roll it out here. BUT the only point would be to offer a much higher speed tier, like 100 bucks for 50 Mb/s. STILL can't get close to competing with FiOS, but they also probably know the actual FiOS rollout (here) has virtually been stopped.

Was going to ask how one might be able to tell, figured it had to be by querying the modem. Here it gets interesting... I had a web address I somehow got years and years ago. BUT about a year ago I HAD upgraded to a combo modem that does telephjone as well as IP. So i gave oit a shot... whatddya know, it WORKED!

http://192.168.100.1/

I have NO idea if that works anywhere else, but ya got nothing to lose. Bottom line is it seems to be still DOCSIS 1.x:

Downstream
Freq/Power: 687.000 MHz -7 dBmV
Signal to Noise Ratio: 33 dB
Modulation: QAM256
Upstream
Freq/Power: 33.000 MHz 43 dBmV
Channel Type: DOCSIS 1.x (TDMA)
Symbol Rate: 2560 kSym/sec
Modulation: QAM16

That works on the Moto modem I have at home and the Ambit modem I have at work. The Ambit requires a password to access diagnostics (easily found online), but the Moto does not. The Moto can also be rebooted from its menus, as well as release/renew its IP address from the headend.

Think I read the same thing about them "going to" roll it out here. BUT the only point would be to offer a much higher speed tier, like 100 bucks for 50 Mb/s. STILL can't get close to competing with FiOS, but they also probably know the actual FiOS rollout (here) has virtually been stopped.

1) DOCSIS 3.0 has launched in NYC - just not in our area yet. It's being rolled out - just like every other service - but we're supposed to see it by year-end. I know they are close - they have recently did some minor QAM shifting and now have 2 groups of 4 channels not being used by analog or digital cable.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/learn/hso/wideband-internet/default.html

2) It's been made clear from the start that full NYC service by FiOS was going to take a number of years.

That works on the Moto modem I have at home and the Ambit modem I have at work. The Ambit requires a password to access diagnostics (easily found online), but the Moto does not. The Moto can also be rebooted from its menus, as well as release/renew its IP address from the headend.

Ooops, you remind me I forgot to indicate what I have... it's a:

ARRIS DOCSIS 1.1 / PacketCable 1.0 Touchstone Telephony Modem HW_REV: 32
VENDOR: Arris Interactive, L.L.C.
BOOTR: 5.01
SW_REV: 5.3.19.D11PLUS
MODEL: TM402G

Interesting the same IP is used for veery different modems... not to mention different capabilities. It appears it only gives information and doesn't provide any interactivity... as in there's no provision via any via button or link.

1) DOCSIS 3.0 has launched in NYC - just not in our area yet. It's being rolled out - just like every other service - but we're supposed to see it by year-end. I know they are close - they have recently did some minor QAM shifting and now have 2 groups of 4 channels not being used by analog or digital cable.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/learn/hso/wideband-internet/default.html

2) It's been made clear from the start that full NYC service by FiOS was going to take a number of years.

Ah, thanks for the link. I HAD read about 50 Mb/s, but up speed (as I recall) was something like 2-3 Mb/s. AND that it wold cost 100 bucks, more than double current standard service. FiOS standard seems to be 25/15.

Verizon's commitment, including 3 pre-scheduled delays, is to wire the city by 2017. Which is not to say they can't ask for further delays. BUT they also listed a few neighborhoods and said they'd have 60% of Manhattan wired by the end of the year. They also told us they'd have us wired by August (we had business discussions with them about serving as a central hub location, theysaid "not at this time"). However, they said it was available in the East Village at contract signing and it simply isn't. I really don't have any facts, but anecdotally it seems less than 20% have it available. Nobody that I personally know have it available. Not to mention that it also seems to ONLY be available in a few large buildings/complexes, like 400+ units.

So tell me, why do they continue to spend MILLIONS saturating us with TV ads? Sure seems like they drastically slowed down wiring to save money, but kept spending the big advertising bucks... POINTLESS!

Interesting the same IP is used for veery different modems... not to mention different capabilities. It appears it only gives information and doesn't provide any interactivity... as in there's no provision via any via button or link.
Any 192.168.x.1 address (some ending not in .1) are internal to your local network (in your house). If you have network printers, wired or wireless routers, other PCs on your internal network (including those connecting wirelessly), they will be in this range (up to 256 connections, up to 192.168.255.1). Deafult for routers are 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 . Your in-house router will also probably have DHCP on and assign numbers in your house up from there (192.168.2.1, 192.168.3.1). Of course you can set a range to for the DHCP and reassign your routers address. I have 2 routers, so I needed to change the default. I also like to keep my DHCP above 10 for wireless connections to keep my other stuff at the same address.

So, yes, using .100 as a standard does not conflict and would be safe from interferring with anything (unless you have more than 100 IP needing items attached, but then it should still just skip the # 100).

/Dan

So tell me, why do they continue to spend MILLIONS saturating us with TV ads? Sure seems like they drastically slowed down wiring to save money, but kept spending the big advertising bucks... POINTLESS! To sell to those with the cable out front already and not using it. Still a large market for TWC, ATT, Verizon if their cables are in the neighborhood and not being used by everyone there. /Dan

To sell to those with the cable out front already and not using it. Still a large market for TWC, ATT, Verizon if their cables are in the neighborhood and not being used by everyone there. /Dan

Oh I DO understand that... but those folks in my market have been that way for a while now... while millions have no access at all. Seat of the pants tells me maybe only 20% of them that see the ads CAN actually get the service.

Actually, not so sure I can tell if those ads are national or local. Even so, given the densities in my market, it still is a better business decision to have a few less ads and a lot more running of fiber. 2 miles of trunk run on the 'burbs has what, several hundred potential? 2 miles up my area has several hundred thousand potentials.

2 miles of trunk run on the 'burbs has what, several hundred potential? 2 miles up my area has several hundred thousand potentials.

In terms of street miles, sure. But there are a bunch of "vertical miles" to account for in NYC, as well.

But there are a bunch of "vertical miles" to account for in NYC, as well.

Not to mention that those "vertical miles" can be a bonus or a major drag. I have a very large array of windows facing south... bedroom & living room. My southern view is formed by a kind of large V... much taller buildings at either end, but similar down the middle. Gives me an intense splash of sun... at the right time of the seasons. Winter it floods in going almost 35 feet. Summer, it just touches a foot or two inside those windows. About 50 yards away from Riverside Park, a nice bike path running right along the Hudson River... I tell ya, not bad at all! Carping about not having access to FiOS in reality is kinda minor!

My southern view is formed by a kind of large V... much taller buildings at either end, but similar down the middle. Gives me an intense splash of sun... at the right time of the seasons. Winter it floods in going almost 35 feet. Summer, it just touches a foot or two inside those windows. About 50 yards away from Riverside Park, a nice bike path running right along the Hudson River... I tell ya, not bad at all! Carping about not having access to FiOS in reality is kinda minor!

I hate you.

I have FiOS, but that's nothing compared to the city you have around you. I would be staring out the window all the time.

San Diego is getting more HD channels on 12/8 but this will require them to eliminate 6 analogs. 10 HD's will be added on that date. The rest are in the legal notice. Those 6 analogs will require a box but TWC will give you a free HD box for 1 year.

MSNBC HD
QVC HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
NBA TV HD

Hope this helps.

I hate you.

I have FiOS, but that's nothing compared to the city you have around you. I would be staring out the window all the time.

Ohhh FiOS, I'm jealous! Hey Virginia has it's pluses!

Not to mention there are many very grim places here, but having lived here all my life, I steered myself to where I wanted to live and once I got my foothold (as a renter) I bought (as a shareholder).

I am new to the dreaded TWC Motorola HD converter box and have been exploring what the box and the remote will do.

Yesterday, I made myself a list of about 10 HD channels that I would like to be able to forward through using the FAVORITES button. I won't go through the details, but I ended up with 4 lists that I do not want and I would like to erase or cancel them and start again with a single list of channels in the order that I want to scan them.

I went to the TWC office today for instructions, but they had no printed instructions and the office tv and remote were temporarily unavailable to demonstrate or figure out how to do it. They, also, tried their in-house, private TWC website for information on using FAVORITES, but found nothing.

Does someone here have the answers on FAVORITES?

go into the main menu -> select setup -> select favorites setup -> select new -> you can chose sort by name or sort by channel number. you can also punch in channel numbers . You can name the list. Also you can have up to 5 lists. You cant delete channels from the guide unless you use favorites.

I am new to the dreaded TWC Motorola HD converter box and have been exploring what the box and the remote will do.

Yesterday, I made myself a list of about 10 HD channels that I would like to be able to forward through using the FAVORITES button. I won't go through the details, but I ended up with 4 lists that I do not want and I would like to erase or cancel them and start again with a single list of channels in the order that I want to scan them.

I went to the TWC office today for instructions, but they had no printed instructions and the office tv and remote were temporarily unavailable to demonstrate or figure out how to do it. They, also, tried their in-house, private TWC website for information on using FAVORITES, but found nothing.

Does someone here have the answers on FAVORITES?
Actually we're pretty happy with out Motorola box (excpet for the occasional dealys in responsiveness). We also have a Tivo and have played with a U-verse box and find the Motorola box to be pretty easy to use, and better in some respects. But the graphics aren't as pretty as on the other boxes.

To get rid of the excess Lists, Click Menu and then select the Home screen.
In the Home screen, select Setup.
In the Setup screen, select Favorites.
From that screen you will be able to remove your excess lists.

same info i posted above.

same info i posted above.And written at the same time. But I got distracted watching something in the midst of writing.

San Diego will actually get 10 HD more channels on 12/8.

TWC/LA (at least in my area) has today gotten a bunch of new channels.

For me, all the ones I was looking for are now available: AMC-HD, MSNBC-HD, E!-HD, BBCAM-HD, and TCM-HD.

NBA-HD is also available, but it's in the Sports Tier along with Tennis-HD. I thought it was going to move out of there and probably into Variety Tier (which is also where they placed MLB/MLB-HD earlier this year, since TWC/SoCal doesn't have a "digital basic" service as such).

Anyway, for now since I don't subscribe to Sports Tier it's unavailable. I thought this was specifically NOT what NBA wanted, but I guess they either don't know what TWC did or they got rolled by TWC or it's home will change eventually. I think Sports Tier has a very low subscribership (but don't know that for absolute sure).

Anyway, no AMC HD On Demand, so I missed Season 3 of 'Mad Men" and have no way to watch it yet (until AMC re-runs it, or the BluRay comes out).

Considering that Time Warner is part owner in MLB Network, I don't think there was any con game going on.Well some kind of hanky panky obviously went on, because TWC/LA did not implement MLB per the agreed upon terms... i.e. FREE FOR ALL DIGITAL BASIC SUBSCRIBERS... because they don't have a "digital basic" tier, and pulled the wool over MLB's eyes (in my opinion).

In my opinion, had they placed MLB in ALL optional tiers, that would have satisfied the national agreement. Since here in LA a "digital subscriber" must buy (a) basic cable, plus (b) at least one optional tier, if MLB went into ALL tiers then that would have covered 100% of LA's "digital subscribers", about as close an equivalence to "digital basic tier" as you can possible define.

But they didn't do it. Anyway, water under the dam.


But now they seem to have done a similar hokey pokey with NBA TV. According to the NBA.COM web site, "Time Warner Cable, the second-largest cable operator in the U.S., will offer NBA TV to its customers on its Digital Basic tier."

Well, that's just flat out untrue here in TWC/LA.

In fact, NBA-HD (which became available today) is STILL in the Sports Tier. It wasn't put into ALL tiers, and it wasn't moved to Variety Tier. It was left in Sports Tier, in obviously total contradiction to what they supposedly agreed to do per NBA.COM.

So they seem to want you to buy Variety Tier for MLB and Science channel and many others, Choice Tier exclusively for NatGEO which really should have been in Variety but was put into Choice so that you'd get sucked in as there are no other channels in that group of any value, Sports Tier for NBA, NHL and Tennis, while Golf is in absolutely free for everyone who's a subscriber "basic cable".

I, for one, will have none of it. I know, I'm only punishing myself by missing out on all these other channels that would only cost me another $15 if I really wanted them, but it's the principle at this point.

I'm still waiting for RoadRunner Turbo to increase to 15Mbps as was announced.

NBATV is going to move next month

TWC/LA (at least in my area) has today gotten a bunch of new channels.

For me, all the ones I was looking for are now available: AMC-HD, MSNBC-HD, E!-HD, BBCAM-HD, and TCM-HD.

NBA-HD is also available, but it's in the Sports Tier along with Tennis-HD. I thought it was going to move out of there and probably into Variety Tier (which is also where they placed MLB/MLB-HD earlier this year, since TWC/SoCal doesn't have a "digital basic" service as such).

Anyway, for now since I don't subscribe to Sports Tier it's unavailable. I thought this was specifically NOT what NBA wanted, but I guess they either don't know what TWC did or they got rolled by TWC or it's home will change eventually. I think Sports Tier has a very low subscribership (but don't know that for absolute sure).

Anyway, no AMC HD On Demand, so I missed Season 3 of 'Mad Men" and have no way to watch it yet (until AMC re-runs it, or the BluRay comes out).

BBC is great, assuming you're a fan of things like Torchwood, Dr. Who, Robin Hood, Being Human. As for Mad Men, you can get the DVDs if you have a Netflix sub, if not, try your local library. In NYC, that DOES mean you may have a LONG wait for it, but it IS available.

San Diego is getting more HD channels on 12/8 but this will require them to eliminate 6 analogs. 10 HD's will be added on that date. The rest are in the legal notice. Those 6 analogs will require a box but TWC will give you a free HD box for 1 year.

MSNBC HD
QVC HD
AMC HD
ESPN U HD
NBA TV HD

Hope this helps.

Means that I can finally move recordings I've been doing on SD channels (Countdown on MSNBC (50) and any programs on AMC (43)) to the HD channels. I will finally be able to stop watching the SD channels! :cool:

Well, maybe with the exception of occasional programs on Cartoon Network (62) and Boomerang (246)... :D

Means that I can finally move recordings I've been doing on SD channels (Countdown on MSNBC (50) and any programs on AMC (43)) to the HD channels. I will finally be able to stop watching the SD channels! :cool:

Well, maybe with the exception of occasional programs on Cartoon Network (62) and Boomerang (246)... :D

Cartoon Network is coming to Charlotte's HD lineup later this month, along with the rest of the HBO multicasts which they originally promised for an October launch.

That's odd, it looks like almost everyone on TWC just recently got MSNBC HD and BBC HD. NE Ohio added them last week. We've already had ESPN U HD and AMC since June and Cartoon Network since October.

San Diego will actually get 10 HD more channels on 12/8.

Does anyone know how many HD channels TWC San Diego stuffs into a single QAM?

Does TWC use 64QAM or 256QAM?

3 HD's per QAM using SDV. They use edge QAM's for SDV. They should use QAM256.

Means that I can finally move recordings I've been doing on SD channels (Countdown on MSNBC (50) and any programs on AMC (43)) to the HD channels. I will finally be able to stop watching the SD channels! :cool:

Well, maybe with the exception of occasional programs on Cartoon Network (62) and Boomerang (246)... :D

There are more HD channels as well as those 5. 6 Analogs are being reclaimed for those HD channels.

There are more HD channels as well as those 5. 6 Analogs are being reclaimed for those HD channels.

You're trying to tease us by only listing 5 of the 10 new channels coming (it's about time on some of them). I guess I'll have to check the U-T to get the complete list. :cool:

3 HD's per QAM using SDV. They use edge QAM's for SDV. They should use QAM256.

"Should" is a dangerous word....:D

Even so, that is 38Mbps (256QAM) for 3 HD channels or about 12.6Mbps per HD (assuming a straight QOS allocation).

Wouldn't that be a tad low compared to 18Mbps that folks get OTA for HD channels and would explain why some of us see bad macroblocking for certain sporting events via TWC?

"Should" is a dangerous word....:D

Even so, that is 38Mbps (256QAM) for 3 HD channels or about 12.6Mbps per HD (assuming a straight QOS allocation).

Wouldn't that be a tad low compared to 18Mbps that folks get OTA for HD channels and would explain why some of us see bad macroblocking for certain sporting events via TWC?

Someone on the Cleveland TWC thread posted some data about our new HD channels and I believe USA HD was close to 13 or 12 Mbps. It's horrible. WWE Raw looks worse on the HD channel than on the analog channel because of the blocking and posterizing on dark colors. It's even visible on some other programming. Lopez Tonight! on TBS HD suffered from the same thing.