Check this out:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6417934.html?display=Breaking+News

I, for one, am happy that TWC went public. We get these little nuggets that have been hidden away for years. Hey, I'm happy they are doing so well. But, wouldn't it be nice if they applied some of this to keeping customers happy?

that's why I got rid of TWC in NYC after 15 years with them, they just did not have enough HD content for my HD sets in my house, so I went with Dishnetwork "should have done it allot sooner" and have never looked back, 30HD channels including the locals in HD, I am in HD heaven, I got the Platinum package which includes all the digital channels and all the HD channels, with 2 HD receivers it would run you $110 a month, after the promotional thing they had running , which got me $20 off for the next six months, so now I pay $90 a month. And for my Broadband I got FIOS from Verizon 20MB download speed and 5MB upload speed for $40 a month, and the bandwith is all mine not shared, and I get every drop of it on a consistent basis, TWC will never see the inside of my home again, besides treating their customers like crap, their content also blows, hope this helped you out.

Do you know of anyone who uses Dish in Manhattan? I know (and have seen) a lot of Direct dishes in certain areas, but not a Dish unit. What is the bird location (direction, elevation)?

Others might be interested to see what those 30 channels are, so here's a link:

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index.shtml

Do you know of anyone who uses Dish in Manhattan? I know (and have seen) a lot of Direct dishes in certain areas, but not a Dish unit. What is the bird location (direction, elevation)?

Others might be interested to see what those 30 channels are, so here's a link:

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/programming/index.shtml

That be more like 34 HD channels - 30 national (w/Voom) and the four NYC local HD networks. :D

I think you are in a location where one dish could get the 61.5 and 110 locations, unless there are more than that to lock on to and your highrise balcony or townhouse (don't know what you have there) faced south, right? :o

FYI: cybertec and AndyHDTV-you think Dressler and his kind are fun, you should see how much fun our local TWC is, too!
Wait until you hear from our very own Bev G in Milwaukee (wait, you never do).

Dish HD total is 35: there are 30 National HD and 1 HD-PPV channels in the list....plus usually 4 HD-Local-In-Locals (where available).

I think you are in a location where one dish could get the 61.5 and 110 locations, unless there are more than that to lock on to and your highrise balcony or townhouse (don't know what you have there) faced south, right? :o

Are you saying there are more than one bird to see with Dish? Or that more than one bird and I only need to see one of them? Obviously, directions would be different from NYC than where you live, so I should have said is there any resource that will give me a direction/elevation so I could see IF I could get to it. Yes, most of my view is south, yes there seem to be a narrow "hole" between 2 high rises to the Direct bird, what I don't know is how wide an arc there needs to be to get a good signal.

It's silly to contemplate any programming differences unless I am reasonably sure I COULD get the service. I DO have terrace all around me, so certain barriers I don't have, but I also don't know what the building may or may not have to say about where I mount stuff.

Dish HD total is 35: there are 30 National HD and 1 HD-PPV channels in the list....plus usually 4 HD-Local-In-Locals (where available).

Due to the pure-hatred of TWC locally, I never add the HDPPV since it usually cuts out, offers very little in choice anyway and the TWC managers like to add it to their trumped-up list of HD channel totals.

Recently TWC-Milwaukee ran an ad in the Sunday paper touting "18 HD Channels!", when in fact, we only have 14 monthly subscription-based HD channels, 15, if you add their god-awful HDPPV to "total".

Though I don't have any idea what kind of HD PPV service and selection is offered on Dish (or Directv), I am certain it could be called an HD channel of sorts. :D

Are you saying there are more than one bird to see with Dish? Or that more than one bird and I only need to see one of them? Obviously, directions would be different from NYC than where you live, so I should have said is there any resource that will give me a direction/elevation so I could see IF I could get to it. Yes, most of my view is south, yes there seem to be a narrow "hole" between 2 high rises to the Direct bird, what I don't know is how wide an arc there needs to be to get a good signal.

It's silly to contemplate any programming differences unless I am reasonably sure I COULD get the service. I DO have terrace all around me, so certain barriers I don't have, but I also don't know what the building may or may not have to say about where I mount stuff.

Not having Dish service personally, though it is tempting vs. TWC's meager offerings in SE Wisconsin and no HD channel additions whatsoever in over a year!
Now, some of my clients in the very-adjacent state of Illinois DO have it, especially since they also offer the 4 major local HD channels
(we do not have that option yet in Wisconsin).
The installer aims at the two sats, using a bigger oval dish, 24" oval, to be exact.

The HD MPEG4 I believe comes in at 61.5 degrees W. Lat and the SD channels come in on the 110 degree one, someone correct me on this, as I often see just two more round dishes for this provider aimed in slightly different directions to get all the required channels, including HD, too.
Your NYC location may be different, but then again, you will probably have this situation, too and it could be difficult to aim for all the sats in your location, even if it IS facing south.
Now, you have could have a Dish installer check it out for you or whatever Dish does do in NYC, since it is a different "scenario" than many other locations with taller buildings,etc.

While we are on the subject of TWC HD, you DO have CinemaxHD and StarzHD and we never got it (and movies I WOULD have watched in HD had we had it).
Looking at your TWC listings, you also have CWHD, too, something we don't have, either.
So why are you complaining so much? :confused:

Oh I did not want to give any impression that I was "complaining," I was trying to ask questions so I could learn a bit more. But this is a thread about HD on TWC systems, so any discussion about Dishes marketing claims really isn't appropriate.

It may have happened a couple of days ago, but I just noticed yesterday that the Raleigh-Durham area now has the CW in HD on Time Warner. Looks like the agreement with Sinclair lead to the new channel.

Yeah, we had the same thing with a Sinclair O&O station with CWHD and TWC here in Milwaukee, but unlike TWC-Raliegh, NC scenario, our local TWC-Milwaukee management has continued to ignore this and not add CWHD. :mad:

But I am not surprised at this any longer, since TWC-Milwaukee has shown no interest in HD channel additions for over a year. :(

The new CWHD channel is number 222, not listed on their TWC-Raleigh, NC site yet.

Oh I did not want to give any impression that I was "complaining," I was trying to ask questions so I could learn a bit more. But this is a thread about HD on TWC systems, so any discussion about Dishes marketing claims really isn't appropriate.

Satellite companies are different from cable companies as you can get the service from anywhere you want, at least for HD national channels, unlike cable, so you asking for alternative service was in order vs. TWC HD service...maybe as an addition to vast number of HD channels of programming TWC offers (NOT!).

Honestly, I was hoping you weren't complaining (that much) about TWC HD service in your area, as you are at the very least getting more than 3 HD channels for programming that we don't have (and would grab at the chance to get from TWC)! :)

The new CWHD channel is number 222, not listed on their TWC-Raleigh, NC site yet.
Yep, it's on there site. Added early yesterday. It's just in the wrong place (the SD channel list).

Found them, thank you...looks like TWC has problems with the web sites in getting it right in other location, too, just like ours.

Your CWHD channel 222 is in the other listings, just out-of-place...but there, at least...unlike ours (not at all).

Ours currently has no HD premium channels listed at all, though we (still) have the two vs. 4 like many of you TWC HD subs out there do have. :D

Honestly, I was hoping you weren't complaining (that much) about TWC HD service in your area, as you are at the very least getting more than 3 HD channels for programming that we don't have (and would grab at the chance to get from TWC)! :)

Truth be told, that's a complex issue, meaning there's real good and real bad. From everything I've read, my location has tons of bandwidth, so I expect bit rates are high and macroblocking not an issue. I do not see macroblocking, nor much motion blur, so I believe quality is pretty damn good. BUT, we do get a variable amount of "skippage" and I'm convinced the cause is 80% the DVR and 20% stuff happening at the head end.

On the business side, I have MANY issues with them. Worst is we have a 5 channel pay HD tier. One of those channels went away, but no price adjustment was made. They SAID they had every intention of replacing it... meanwhile we continue to pay for 5 and get 4 three months AFTER it should have been replaced. HOWEVER, 100 miles upstate, the same thing happened AND one of the 4 remaining I pay for got moved to the regular tier. AND as a "compensation" they gave THOSE customers a free full year of a premium service. AND rates went up. One very true thing is those guys upstate DO have the option of satellite service and we in the city mostly do NOT. AND my best guess is that it's going to be a good 3 years before I have the availability of Version FIOS TV on my block. AND OTA doesn't even figure into the picture, when they took down our Towers, antennas got re-located to the Empire State Bldg. which from me is much more shielded than our Towers were.

In our entire state, to get ESPNHD, INHD, HDNET, HDNET Movies and Universal HD you must pay for the HD package.
INHD2, just like your situation, was not replaced with anything like other locations got, MHD, due to the new contract with Viacom, we just got to pay the same price for the package, no discounts or treatment like upstate NY.
I thought that by now with MHD (MTV,CMT, etc. in HD) it would have at least been the new "addition" for the HD package, but no.
Looks like upstate NY has ESPN2HD, too, just like parts of southern CA, but this appears to be the case not for most other locations, I think that it could be that Comcast takeover thing, closeby (as the reason).
Like you, I am at a disadvantage due to location, but in my case, I am too far to get a good OTA signal as I am between both larger cities' transmissions.
So without a very high tower and monster antenna (I have been told), will I not get those farther-away digital signals, so that is out of the question.
Adding a dish, probably two from Dishnetwork in my backyard along with that massive antenna and my yard will start looking like the backlot from the very cable company who cares less about my HD channel additions...no way. :rolleyes:

Found them, thank you...looks like TWC has problems with the web sites in getting it right in other location, too, just like ours.

Your CWHD channel 222 is in the other listings, just out-of-place...but there, at least...unlike ours (not at all).

Ours currently has no HD premium channels listed at all, though we (still) have the two vs. 4 like many of you TWC HD subs out there do have. :D

UPDATE:
Unlike our TWC location, which never fixes its errors on its website, your TWC website in Raleigh, NC has fixed that error and CWHD channel 222 is now correctly listed in the HDTV section for channels! :)

Note: Our Sinclair CWHD channel was never added, unlike yours, too.

Wow...you have FOUR more HD channels than our (miserable) TWC area has!

You would think that with AT&T (as of today), breathing down their TWC necks in my area as of today, TWC-Milwaukee would have added some HD channels by now...but do they care...no. :(

I receive the following from TWC for the $1.75 monthly price of a cablecard:
FOX, NBC, ABC, PBS, CBS, MTV (or whatever), A&E, TNT, HDNET, HDNET Movies, ESPN, NESN, INHD, Discovery, Universal, ESPN2 and Fox Sports New England.

I receive the following from TWC for the $1.75 monthly price of a cablecard:
FOX, NBC, ABC, PBS, CBS, MTV (or whatever), A&E, TNT, HDNET, HDNET Movies, ESPN, NESN, INHD, Discovery, Universal, ESPN2 and Fox Sports New England.

Yes, I have seen the extra HD channels you get in your TWC area vs. our lack of additions (literally).
This a good lineup for a TWC area, even though NESN I will assume is a localized channel.
MTV HD is listed as "MHD", but along with A&EHD and ESPN2HD, you got something to show for any TWC subscriber increases we all got sometime this past year.

That $1.75 a month for a cablecard in our/your area, BTW, does not include the HD package or any DigiPic digital package, it just allows you to get your SD and HD cable channels (exception HD PPV and On-Demand) without a HD cable box, that is all, Stan54... :p

Yes, I have seen the extra HD channels you get in your TWC area vs. our lack of additions (literally).
This a good lineup for a TWC area, even though NESN I will assume is a localized channel.
MTV HD is listed as "MHD", but along with A&EHD and ESPN2HD, you got something to show for any TWC subscriber increases we all got sometime this past year.

That $1.75 a month for a cablecard in our/your area, BTW, does not include the HD package or any DigiPic digital package, it just allows you to get your SD and HD cable channels (exception HD PPV and On-Demand) without a HD cable box, that is all, Stan54... :p

NESN HD is New England Sports Network (Red Sox, Bruins, etc.)

I am not sure what "HD package" is since these are all of the HD channels anyway except for the premiums (HBO, TMC, Cinemax & Starz) which I don't really want anyway. Our system doesn't have National Geographic HD, yet. The $1.75 gives me all there is except for the premiums.

There is nothing at all the SD digital channels that interests me at all, so I didn't purchase them. On the rare occasions that I don't find something in HD, I catch up on the analog news channels which I used to watch all of the time before HD.

Hey guys, Time Warner in my area (Northeast Ohio) did a large update the other morning to my Scientific America DVR. It changed each station so it displayed the shows time length, wether it is HD or not, etc. all when you are turning the channel or hit info the first time.

My question is, is there anywhere to go that will show me what other updates where applied, what changes, etc. Makes me wonder what else was done.

Hey everyone.

Since Versus and inHD ended their agreement to show NHL games I have been banging on my local TWC (Buffalo, NY) to pick up VSTGC-HD and I continue to get the standard "We don't offer this yet but will forward your request to the programming department to show demand".

Has anyone gotten an answer to whether this is going to be offered soon? Not being able to watch the NHL playoffs in HD (aside from NBC) is not going to make me very happy, especially if its something they've been told they're able to offer at no charge!

Since the Sabres aren't carried in HD here on MSG locally, Versus is my only option sadly.

Thanks in advance

Has anyone gotten an answer to whether this is going to be offered soon? Not being able to watch the NHL playoffs in HD (aside from NBC) is not going to make me very happy, especially if its something they've been told they're able to offer at no charge!
April 1st at the earliest. See post #990 in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9755085&&#post9755085) for additional info.

Hey guys, Time Warner in my area (Northeast Ohio) did a large update the other morning to my Scientific America DVR. It changed each station so it displayed the shows time length, wether it is HD or not, etc. all when you are turning the channel or hit info the first time.

My question is, is there anywhere to go that will show me what other updates where applied, what changes, etc. Makes me wonder what else was done.
What are the various OS versions listed in your Extended Diagnostics Menu???

It's probably the new Digital Navigator IPG....or one of several other alternatives....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=723830&page=1&pp=30

What are the various OS versions listed in your Extended Diagnostics Menu???

It's probably the new Digital Navigator IPG....or one of several other alternatives....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=723830&page=1&pp=30

How do I get to the Extended Diagnostics Menu?

How do I get to the Extended Diagnostics Menu?

There's more than one way, it seems specific to box model, location and software. For me (details in sig & by avatar) it's press and hold SEL and EXIT on the box's front until you sand "diag" on the LED screen, then press EXIT again, you'll see it "tune" to 1999 and there you go.

in northeast ohio if you go to channel 611 that is their diagnostic stuff.

Has there been any news on these assclowns adding ESPN2HD in time for Opening Day? I swear if I didn't live in an apartment I'd disown them since they clearly don't care about keeping up with HD.

Has anyone in the Columbus area tried WOW? Their HD lineup, while it doesn't include ESPN2HD, is at least superior.

How do I get to the Extended Diagnostics Menu?

Riverside_Guy described method for PASSPORT OpSys.

Method for SARA OpSys is found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=471859

Has there been any news on these assclowns adding ESPN2HD in time for Opening Day? I swear if I didn't live in an apartment I'd disown them since they clearly don't care about keeping up with HD.

Has anyone in the Columbus area tried WOW? Their HD lineup, while it doesn't include ESPN2HD, is at least superior.

You should email the new Queen Ass Clown (melinda.witmer@twcable.com) and ask her what's up. To my knowledge, she has avoided this particular subject-- just like her predecesor.

You should email the new Queen Ass Clown (melinda.witmer@twcable.com) and ask her what's up. To my knowledge, she has avoided this particular subject-- just like her predecesor.


Is this person "Melinda Witmer" the main person in charge of adding new HD channels. Obviously some markets have other channels we dont. Is there a person at each local branch that is in charge of the addition of new channels? Does anyone know how to get their names and contact info? Or does the responsibility lie soley on the higher ups like Ms. Witmer? any help would be appreciated.

Hey guys, I wish TWC would get on the ball with adding new channels too, but grown adults calling other people "assclowns" because you don't have the TV channels you want is a little sad.

grown adultsThat is an assumption.

You're right, Gary, that's something I shouldn't take for granted.

Oh come on guys, lighten up a bit! It's a bit hard for me to be overly kind since TWC seems adverse to any HD channel lineup changes unless they are extremely necessary (Fox & ABC for instance) and I haven't been happy with them of late. Since I live in an apartment I don't have a lot of other options. Considering they just gave their CEO a nearly $6 million bonus, I'd say they have the dough to actually beef up their lineup and please their customers.

Anyone else's HDNET and HdnetMovies grayed out in NYC?

This sucks! I was pumped up when I read the first page of this thread. It took me a while to realize it was started on March 4th of frickin 2006!

One year later and none of the channels mentioned are available.

TW is charging me nearly $200 for cable and internet, but can't offer me channels that are available on other cable systems. TW is a greedy SOB.

Is this person "Melinda Witmer" the main person in charge of adding new HD channels. Obviously some markets have other channels we dont. Is there a person at each local branch that is in charge of the addition of new channels? Does anyone know how to get their names and contact info? Or does the responsibility lie soley on the higher ups like Ms. Witmer? any help would be appreciated.

Melinda Witmer is the corporate VP of Programming for TWC. She replaced Fred Dressler. It's her job to negotiate carriage agreements on a national level (currently there isn't one for ESPN2HD). Then, the local TWC offices decide on delivery based upon their own limitations. Some TWC markets have ESPN2HD but they appear to be carry-overs from previous Adelphia markets (which did have an agreement to carry ESPN2HD).

Melinda Witmer is the corporate VP of Programming for TWC. She replaced Fred Dressler. It's her job to negotiate carriage agreements on a national level (currently there isn't one for ESPN2HD). Then, the local TWC offices decide on delivery based upon their own limitations. Some TWC markets have ESPN2HD but they appear to be carry-overs from previous Adelphia markets (which did have an agreement to carry ESPN2HD).

Local TWC offices are allowed to decide what they want to add despite what Melinda or Fred get for contracts nationally.
IMO, TWC could offer everything Dishnetwork currently offers and our local TWC would care less!
I think we have the lowest TWC HD channel count than anywhere else for a subcriber base like we have in Wisconsin...very sad. :confused:
IF your local TWC area, like mine (Wisconsin) doesn't "like" HD channels or thinks their system "has enough", the TWC local won't add them. :(
Other locations - just look at some of the other areas on the TWC websites - have more HD channels than others-it is all a local thing.
So you can keep your local TWC service and wait until you lose patience, then go to a dish-delivery service (if you are able to).
Another thing we are starting to do in Milwaukeeland (or are about to do, depending on neighbourhood hookups) that works for some with hookups done already:
They changed to AT&T HD for 27 HD channels (NFLHD, ESPN2HD,etc.)
While their service is not perfect in some ways, it is sometimes less expensive for some and the offerings of so many more HD channels has already swayed some folks I know in the area.
Although it makes a small impact, maybe our local TWC will "see the light" about HD additions as HD subs drop them altogether. :D
Then again, there are deep tints on TWC-Wisconsin's rose-coloured glasses.

Some TWC markets have ESPN2HD but they appear to be carry-overs from previous Adelphia markets (which did have an agreement to carry ESPN2HD).

SyracuseTWC carries ESPN2HD, but it is definitely not an Adelphia legacy.

Since it looks as if the MLB Extra Innings package might be exclusive to DirecTV. That would mean as of April TWC will not carry the 14 SD channels that would normally carry the MLB Extra Innings package.

They could put 2-3 HD channels in it's place, since they would have some space freed up.

I hope.

They could put 2-3 HD channels in it's place, since they would have some space freed up.

I hope.


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Hey guys, I wish TWC would get on the ball with adding new channels too, but grown adults calling other people "assclowns" because you don't have the TV channels you want is a little sad.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Maybe if they hadn't dropped INHD2 from the lineup...or if they were decent enough to actually replace it with something. But when they treat us like garbage while constantly increasing their fees I'm not sure why we should treat them any better. That we still don't have a number of HD channels found elsewhere is unacceptable to me. Unfortunately I don't have any alternatives so I'm stuck with them, and that is what they count on.

I'm dissatisfied with TWC currently also. But the name calling just makes us look bad. And while TWC should certainly have replaced INHD2, they didn't "drop" it. It was collapsed into one station.

I'm dissatisfied with TWC currently also. But the name calling just makes us look bad. And while TWC should certainly have replaced INHD2, they didn't "drop" it. It was collapsed into one station.

So unless I'm mistaken I'm gonna have to watch the biggest Rangers game of the year in crappy SD tomorrow night, even though it's a home game. Even if it's not their fault I want to blame TWC anyway. ;) NHL fans and TWC customers, the worst possible combination.

So unless I'm mistaken I'm gonna have to watch the biggest Rangers game of the year in crappy SD tomorrow night, even though it's a home game. Even if it's not their fault I want to blame TWC anyway. ;) NHL fans and TWC customers, the worst possible combination.

Islanders vs. Rangers is definately a big game and I will be watching. also in SD.
TWC doesn't carry Versus-HD and Versus has stopped sending the signal to INHD which is weird because Comcast is the only provider to carry it.

Reply from Ms. Witmer

Mr. Bennett,

I appreciate your thoughtful inquiry. We are working hard to expand our high definition lineup and with most of our divisions rolling out switched digital broadcast over this next year capacity for adding those channels will not be a significant hurdle. We are working on adding the following services, among others, ESPN2 HD, Versus/Golf HD, NatGeo HD, Lifetime HD, HGTV/Food HD and several VOD HD offerings. Keep a lookout for increased VOD HD, particularly in our movie offering. We have been very focused on bringing quality rather than quantity and also bringing our customers a true HD offering. While much content on networks is being upconverted and is not all native high definition, we are concerned about some of the false claims being made in the marketplace about greater capacity and claiming channels are 'high definiton" when they are simply "line doubled" or "stretched" to fit the screen.

TWC is committed to bringing our customers a quality high definition lineup and it is a priority of our company to get the deals done to bring the content to our customers. Unfortunately, there are many factors that can slow us down - licensing agreements that get caught up in larger deals (ESPN2HD has been held up for 2 years in a larger Disney deal) and capacity in certain systems that require upgrading or switched digital to make the best offering. We are working on getting the deals done and are grateful for the patience of our loyal customers. As each of our local divisions are affected by lineup changes somewhat differrently and because we normally reach out for customer service on a local basis to most effectively address customer concerns, I would urge anyone with a particular question to contact their local TWC office. We know this is important and we are working to bring the content to you and our other customers that are looking for it. We appreciate your taking the time to reach out.

I expect to see the next 12 months bring significantly more HD content to our lineup.

Best regards,

Melinda Witmer

Wow, actual channel names!

Lifetime HD, huh?

Glad to see she mentioned National Geographic, that's one that can really benefit from the HD treatment.

Although I'm disappointed they're still pushing the SDV route. I had hoped they would go with some other strategies.

Glad to see she mentioned National Geographic, that's one that can really benefit from the HD treatment.

Although I'm disappointed they're still pushing the SDV route. I had hoped they would go with some other strategies.


Yea im suprised she actually replied to me with all the other comments from other members posted about non-replies. Yea im not a big fan of switched digital video either, but at this point i will take anything to get more channels as long as teh quality isnt reduced... I didnt post my original email to her because you all would think i was a complete ******* ;) the rhetoric of it wasnt nice at all. I can imagine how big her inbox is from all of us.

I hereby withdraw my assclown comment from above since that is actually a pretty impressive email from Ms. Witmer. That she mentions actual channels gives me some hope. I guess in the end it will come down to how dedicated TWC Columbus is in rolling them out whenever agreements are reached.

ESPN2HD is definitely at the top of my list. With baseball season a mere month away and the way the Busch Series broadcast was handled yesterday (high-def only on ESPN2 with the Spanish language broadcast on simulcast on ESPN Deportes and ESPN), I have to think demand is currently at an all-time high.

Thanks to Donnie for posting that email.

I contacted Melinda Witmer a few months ago concerning the Sinclair carriage discussions and she replied promptly with accurate information so she gets props from me for now.

Now that I have my local Sinclair owned FOX station in HD, ESPN2 HD tops the list :cool:

I hereby withdraw my assclown comment from above since that is actually a pretty impressive email from Ms. Witmer. That she mentions actual channels gives me some hope. I guess in the end it will come down to how dedicated TWC Columbus is in rolling them out whenever agreements are reached.

ESPN2HD is definitely at the top of my list. With baseball season a mere month away and the way the Busch Series broadcast was handled yesterday (high-def only on ESPN2 with the Spanish language broadcast on simulcast on ESPN Deportes and ESPN), I have to think demand is currently at an all-time high.

Thanks to Donnie for posting that email.


Yea I think ESPN2-HD is tops for most people. I still like the "assclown" though. Falls in line with "asshat" another fav...

Yea I think ESPN2-HD is tops for most people. I still like the "assclown" though. Falls in line with "asshat" another fav...

I also appreciate her reply. Although, I recall Fred Dressler's replies and this one looks like a verbatim cut/paste version. Me thinks it's a form letter, but I'm a cynic. Someone may want to ask her why certain TWC markets have ESPN2HD without a national agreement. The common belief is that those who do are former Adelphia markets, but some on this and other forums (ex. Syracuse TWC, St. Augustine FL TWC) who now have ESPN2HD, insist they have no connection to Adelphia. So, the question to Ms. Witmer is, why do some TWC customers have ESPN2HD and other markets (ex. here in Raleigh) claim they are unable to deliver it. Hmmm.

Although I'm disappointed they're still pushing the SDV route. I had hoped they would go with some other strategies.
Why? It seems to work quite well here.

"(ESPN2HD has been held up for 2 years in a larger Disney deal)"

I think this quote says alot. A few years back when ESPN and ESPN2 contracts were up, ESPN pushed ESPN Classic onto the expanded basic tier. I'm willing to bet that ESPN wants the following:

1. Put ESPN and ESPN2HD on the basic HD Tier (in most TWC markets this includes only Discovery HD and TNTHD; TWC-CNY has ESPNHD and ESPN2HD already on this basic HD Tier while almost all other markets have ESPNHD on the HD Tier). ESPN doesn't want people to have to pay extra to watch its networks.

2. Put ESPNU on the expanded basic tier. Its the NFL Network all over again, except ESPN has a stronger argument because at least ESPNU appeals to more than just football fans.

3. Keep everything else status quo with respect to ESPN networks.

4. Include other Disney networks in the deal (like ABC Family and Disney Channel).

5. Raise fees on all of the above.

Question: Is ESPNU available everywhere ESPN2HD is available?

Why? It seems to work quite well here.

I know in essence what SDV is, i guess U could say in its most simplistic form is that its like video on demand? Is it that slow? because i know VOD isnt that speedy. Just wanted comments on your day to day interaction with SDV, hitting the channel button up and down, etc... do you have to verify if U want to watch that channel? so then it will switch over the program on that specific bandwith etc etc.

just read that ESPN news wants to launch a hd version later this year.
I hope TWC is smart enough to include this in any deal.

remember when TWC announced that they made a deal to get ESPN-HD and then a couple months later ESPN2-HD launched. and they didn't even think to include that in their deal.

I know in essence what SDV is, i guess U could say in its most simplistic form is that its like video on demand? Is it that slow? because i know VOD isnt that speedy. Just wanted comments on your day to day interaction with SDV, hitting the channel button up and down, etc... do you have to verify if U want to watch that channel? so then it will switch over the program on that specific bandwith etc etc.
SDV is on MHD and and A&E HD here and is transparent to the user. If no one on your neighborhood node is watching those channels they are not being transmitted. If you tune to one of those channels it is switched on instantaneously. That is the over simplified version.

"(ESPN2HD has been held up for 2 years in a larger Disney deal)"

I think this quote says alot. A few years back when ESPN and ESPN2 contracts were up, ESPN pushed ESPN Classic onto the expanded basic tier. I'm willing to bet that ESPN wants the following:

1. Put ESPN and ESPN2HD on the basic HD Tier (in most TWC markets this includes only Discovery HD and TNTHD; TWC-CNY has ESPNHD and ESPN2HD already on this basic HD Tier while almost all other markets have ESPNHD on the HD Tier). ESPN doesn't want people to have to pay extra to watch its networks.

2. Put ESPNU on the expanded basic tier. Its the NFL Network all over again, except ESPN has a stronger argument because at least ESPNU appeals to more than just football fans.

3. Keep everything else status quo with respect to ESPN networks.

4. Include other Disney networks in the deal (like ABC Family and Disney Channel).

5. Raise fees on all of the above.

Question: Is ESPNU available everywhere ESPN2HD is available?

Don't forget that the program providers are ALSO asking/demanding that
Cable companies carry their PPV/VOD products--which requires a big investment
to provide multiple VOD servers at each network node.

And is interwoven into the "instant-play" SDV upgrades and OCAP/Navigator Guide
upgrades so the user can actually FIND what they want within thousands & thousands
of PPV/VOD offerings....

Here is what TWC is doing wrt "instant-play" using SDV and MediaHawk 4500 VOD server:
http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/2/5219.html#POST27585

and similar (but slower with MediaHawk 4000) plans from COX:
http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/3/5552.html#POST27748

Glad to see she mentioned National Geographic, that's one that can really benefit from the HD treatment.

Although I'm disappointed they're still pushing the SDV route. I had hoped they would go with some other strategies.



We have had SDV for a long time and it works perfect.

Question: Is ESPNU available everywhere ESPN2HD is available?

Syracuse TWC has ESPN2-HD but not ESPNU.

"(ESPN2HD has been held up for 2 years in a larger Disney deal)"

I think this quote says alot. A few years back when ESPN and ESPN2 contracts were up, ESPN pushed ESPN Classic onto the expanded basic tier. I'm willing to bet that ESPN wants the following:

1. Put ESPN and ESPN2HD on the basic HD Tier (in most TWC markets this includes only Discovery HD and TNTHD; TWC-CNY has ESPNHD and ESPN2HD already on this basic HD Tier while almost all other markets have ESPNHD on the HD Tier). ESPN doesn't want people to have to pay extra to watch its networks.

2. Put ESPNU on the expanded basic tier. Its the NFL Network all over again, except ESPN has a stronger argument because at least ESPNU appeals to more than just football fans.

3. Keep everything else status quo with respect to ESPN networks.

4. Include other Disney networks in the deal (like ABC Family and Disney Channel).

5. Raise fees on all of the above.

Question: Is ESPNU available everywhere ESPN2HD is available?

ESPN2 HD on Albany TWC is NOT in the HD Tier. ESPN HD is in the HD Tier.

ESPNU is not carried by Albany TWC.

Albany TWC HD lineup:

High Definition TV
1800 Movies On Demand HD
1806 WRGB HD (CBS)
1808 WXXA HD (FOX)
1810 WTEN HD (ABC)
1811 WMHT HD (PBS)
1813 WNYT HD (NBC)
1815 WCWN HD (CW)
1827 TNT HD
1837 Discovery HD Theater
1838 A&E HD
1840 MTV HD
1847 MSG HD
1866 SportsNet New York HD
1870 ESPN2HD

High Definition Tier ($3.95 / month)
1855 INHD
1857 HD Net
1858 HDNET Movies
1860 NBC Universal HD
1867 YES HD
1869 ESPN-HD

High Definition Premium (must subscribe to premium channel)
1880 HBO High Definition
1885 Showtime High Definition

ESPN2 HD on Albany TWC is NOT in the HD Tier. ESPN HD is in the HD Tier.

ESPNU is not carried by Albany TWC.

Albany TWC HD lineup:

High Definition TV
1800 Movies On Demand HD
1806 WRGB HD (CBS)
1808 WXXA HD (FOX)
1810 WTEN HD (ABC)
1811 WMHT HD (PBS)
1813 WNYT HD (NBC)
1815 WCWN HD (CW)
1827 TNT HD
1837 Discovery HD Theater
1838 A&E HD
1840 MTV HD
1847 MSG HD
1866 SportsNet New York HD
1870 ESPN2HD

High Definition Tier ($3.95 / month)
1855 INHD
1857 HD Net
1858 HDNET Movies
1860 NBC Universal HD
1867 YES HD
1869 ESPN-HD

High Definition Premium (must subscribe to premium channel)
1880 HBO High Definition
1885 Showtime High Definition

nice lineup but it makes no sense to me to have espn2 hd for free and the flagship channel in the pay tier.... but as I type this out maybe it does make sense..... who knows. figured they both be in the same sub category

We have had SDV for a long time and it works perfect.
Yeah, it works perfect if you like that Scientific Atlanta DVR you're using and it's ridiculously inferior interface. But it causes problems for those of us who use something better.

http://www.wealthtv.net/pr_030207.html

Time Warner Cable and WealthTV Deliver Free on Demand High Definition Programming to San Antonio Viewers

Major HD VOD Roll-out Hits San Antonio Customers First

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“Time Warner Cable is committed to providing our customers with the ultimate viewing experience by combining the ability to enjoy exciting programming when they want it with the life-like clarity of high definition. Our new high definition Free On Demand programming lineup featuring lifestyle programming from WealthTV delivers on that promise,” said Jon Gary Herrera, vice president of governmental and public affairs for Time Warner Cable San Antonio.

According to Charles Herring, president of WealthTV, “Time Warner Cable has taken a leadership role in delivering what viewers are seeking. We’re pleased to be part of this exciting new product offering and delivering on the high definition promise.”

In addition to the new high definition Free On Demand channel highlighting WealthTV programming, Time Warner Cable offers more than 30 Free On Demand channels featuring movies, sports, music, news, the arts, children’s programming and more.
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http://www.timewarnercable.com/sanantonio/programming/freehdondemand/wealthtv.html

Journal Star Link (http://journalstar.com/articles/2007/02/22/news/local/doc45dce8551dcd2874905526.txt)

Lincoln, NE was/is the testbed for the new Navigator system, and has been meet with plenty of complaints. The resolution for the City Council to evaluate (put the pressure on) TW passed today.

Cook calls for evaluation of Time Warner Cable
By JEFF KORBELIK / Lincoln Journal Star
Thursday, Feb 22, 2007 - 12:04:03 am CST
Lincoln City Councilman Jonathan Cook is introducing a resolution today calling for a performance evaluation of and a legal investigation into Time Warner Cable’s new Navigator program guide and DVR software.

“There are serious problems here,” Cook said Wednesday afternoon. “I think Lincoln customers deserve better. They are not getting what they have paid for.”

A public hearing on the resolution is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. March 5.
Time Warner asked Cook to wait a week before introducing his resolution to see if its latest software upgrade, scheduled to be finished by Friday, takes care of the problems, said Ann Shrewsbury, director of public affairs for the cable company’s Nebraska division.

“This is a top priority for this division and our company,” Shrewsbury said. “It’s very important for us to make the changes needed to create a great product that will have incredible opportunities in the future.”

According to Cook, the city’s franchise agreement with Time Warner, approved in November 2005, gives the city the authority to order a performance evaluation.

Cook’s resolution calls for the Cable Television Advisory Board to conduct the evaluation. It also calls for city attorneys to review any franchise agreement violations, Federal Communications Commission violations or other regulatory infractions.

Last fall, Time Warner dropped the contracted Passport channel guide in favor of the company-created Navigator.

Time Warner changed the guide to make it compatible with other software programs coming down the line, such as TV caller ID for those who have the company’s phone and digital cable service.

The change affected 46,000 digital cable subscribers. Time Warner has 110,000 television subscribers in Southeast Nebraska.

Time Warner is the nation’s second largest cable company with more than 18 million subscribers. The Nebraska division was the first to introduce Navigator to its customers.

The new guide has been beset with problems since its introduction. Complaints have ranged from the guide itself — ugly graphics, incomplete information, etc. — to problems with slow-reacting cable boxes and DVRs after the software was loaded into them, causing some subscribers to reboot one or more times a day.

Cook said he is a Time Warner subscriber and DVR user. As the council’s liaison to the Cable Television Advisory Board, he said he received his upgrade with Time Warner employees before it was introduced to the public.

“I didn’t think it was ready,” he said. “I thought it needed more work before it was released.”

Shrewsbury said Time Warner will comply with an evaluation. She also said the company has kept city officials abreast of the situation.

“The timing of this is unfortunate because we believe this latest (upgrade) will solve the most important issues affecting customers,” she said.

Glad to see she mentioned National Geographic, that's one that can really benefit from the HD treatment.

Although I'm disappointed they're still pushing the SDV route. I had hoped they would go with some other strategies.

Totally agree about NG HD. But I am curious about your comment on SDV. I'm not an engineer, but think I have a reasonable ability to understand "engineering" explanations, and I understand the bandwidth issues. SDV appears to me to address the issues involved. So what "other strategies" do you know of that will address the limited bandwidth issue?

ESPN2 HD on Albany TWC is NOT in the HD Tier. ESPN HD is in the HD Tier.

Hmmm, I actually retained a scan of a TWC letter that went to upstate NY residents (my impression was that it WAS the Albany area) that was posted on AVS. As we know, InHD's 2 channels became one, but TWC "moved" ESPN HD from the "pay-extra" tier to the regular digital service (something they did not do here). As COMPENSATION, they gave a full YEAR'S worth of a premium channels services (SHO) including it's HD channel. We WERE promised a "replacement" channel as part of losing one of 5 channels on the pay tier, but nothing has happened.

This really gets me angry as I don't have ANY options at all, not even satellite, whereas I'd guess most upstate customers probably have a far easier time getting a good view of the satellite(s) in use (yes there are people in my city who CAN and DO have satellite service, but most parts of my borough can't). The only thing that makes sense is they are being very nice to you guys because you have more options that folks in most areas of my city do.

Yeah, it works perfect if you like that Scientific Atlanta DVR you're using and it's ridiculously inferior interface. But it causes problems for those of us who use something better.

Sorry to let you in on this, but most of us with 8300's running "Passport" (SARA users a bit less) are quite happy with it. Works great, and I neither need nor want the TiVo functionality of letting the software choose shows I might like; I'm perfectly capable of making those choices myself. :rolleyes: It's the impending doom of the "Navigator" rollout that has us all worried. The 8300 itself is a superb device; I've never had the first problem with it in over 2 years - and it didn't cost me $800, either.

I do not have any problems with SARA 8300. It gets an upgrade about once a year and I don't have to buy a new one every few years or ever.

Hmmm, I actually retained a scan of a TWC letter that went to upstate NY residents (my impression was that it WAS the Albany area) that was posted on AVS. As we know, InHD's 2 channels became one, but TWC "moved" ESPN HD from the "pay-extra" tier to the regular digital service (something they did not do here). As COMPENSATION, they gave a full YEAR'S worth of a premium channels services (SHO) including it's HD channel. We WERE promised a "replacement" channel as part of losing one of 5 channels on the pay tier, but nothing has happened.
The letter was from TWC Central NY, also known as the Syracuse area.
While Syracuse and Albany are both "upstate", Albany TWC is a seperate franchise.

Sorry to let you in on this, but most of us with 8300's running "Passport" (SARA users a bit less) are quite happy with it. Works great, and I neither need nor want the TiVo functionality of letting the software choose shows I might like; I'm perfectly capable of making those choices myself. :rolleyes: It's the impending doom of the "Navigator" rollout that has us all worried. The 8300 itself is a superb device; I've never had the first problem with it in over 2 years - and it didn't cost me $800, either.
No need to apologize. :rolleyes: We've had this discussion many times in the other forums, and you know it. Stop arguing that the physical box of the SA8300 is so great. We all know it's not the hardware, it's the software, that's just a stupid point to bring up (but one of the DoubleDave's favorites).

I have SARA and it's awful. That's why I bought a TiVo S3. If you have PASSPORT, you're very lucky. I've seen it, it's actually pretty good. I'd be happy with it too. But wait until you get Navigator. Then let's hear what you have to say. For those of us that have suffered with older versions of SARA, there is no going back.

Totally agree about NG HD. But I am curious about your comment on SDV. I'm not an engineer, but think I have a reasonable ability to understand "engineering" explanations, and I understand the bandwidth issues. SDV appears to me to address the issues involved. So what "other strategies" do you know of that will address the limited bandwidth issue?
I don't have any problem with saving bandwidth, that's great. But there are several other ways to accomplish it that don't interfere with folks using TiVo or other DVRs. One strategy that was announced last year was to put a converter box on the outside of customer's houses that would convert the digital signals back to analog. That would allow the bandwidth savings of eliminating the analog feeds over the big pipes, and it would also allow folks not to have to get digital converter boxes for all of their analog tvs in the house.

The other "strategy" would be to NOT ADD 9 different shopping channels to my digital tier if they supposedly don't have enough bandwidth for a new HD station. Saving bandwidth doesn't necessarily mean adding anything, how about eliminating some of the trash?

I don't have any problem with saving bandwidth, that's great. But there are several other ways to accomplish it that don't interfere with folks using TiVo or other DVRs.

How exactly does SDV interfere with using DVRs?

The other "strategy" would be to NOT ADD 9 different shopping channels to my digital tier if they supposedly don't have enough bandwidth for a new HD station. Saving bandwidth doesn't necessarily mean adding anything, how about eliminating some of the trash?

This is an old, tired argument. One person's trash is another's treasure. Providers add channels at the expense of picture quality because, in general, that is what people want.

How exactly does SDV interfere with using DVRs?




Its cablecard equipped DVRs that is the problem. There is documentation that SDV will simply not work with the current version of cablecards as implemented in today's hardware. There are also significant legal issues that result from this, particularly questions whether a cable company can in effect, discriminate, against cablecard users by adopting SDV.

There is some speculation that TWC is holding off adding any new channels because of the SDV/cablecard issue. If TWC adds, say, ESPN2HD then decides to move that channel to SDV, it then would, in effect, cut off the channel from cablecard equipped devices. Its a little more defensable, although legally still questionable, for TWC to implement SDV and then add the additional programming.

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How exactly does SDV interfere with using DVRs?
If you don't know the answer to this question, then you have a lot of reading to do. Why don't you educate yourself on SDV before you start preaching how wonderful it is.

It basically locks you into using your cable box and no other DVR if you want to receive the channels on the switched tier--which eliminates any competition--which defeats the purpose of the cablecard legislation in the first place. It also basically makes your TV with a cablecard useless as well since you can't tune the switched channels.

Do your research on the purpose of the cablecard legislation and then look at SDV again. You'll see that it completely defies that purpose.


This is an old, tired argument. One person's trash is another's treasure.
There's nothing more old, tired and lame than the old quote of "one man's trash is another man's treasure".

Providers add channels at the expense of picture quality because, in general, that is what people want.That's your opinion, and it's wrong. Providers add channels at the expense of picture quality because they generate revenue. Shopping channels pay TWC to get carriage, don't they?

And while we're at it, maybe you can explain why you're apologizing for TWC and SDV in the first place. I just can't understand it.

It basically locks you into using your cable box and no other DVR if you want to receive the channels on the switched tier--which eliminates any competition--which defeats the purpose of the cablecard legislation in the first place. It also basically makes your TV with a cablecard useless as well since you can't tune the switched channels.


The fact remains there is greater benefit with SDV for the vast majority, those who choose not to use the first generation of Cablecard.

That's your opinion, and it's wrong. Providers add channels at the expense of picture quality because they generate revenue. Shopping channels pay TWC to get carriage, don't they?



I wonder why it is that the Shopping channels are willing to pay?

The fact remains there is greater benefit with SDV for the vast majority, those who choose not to use the first generation of Cablecard.
Simply not true. Places that already have SDV implemented have not seen any benefit. We have SDV in my town, I haven't seen any new HD channels, only shopping channels.

The fact remains that
a) TWC is locking you into only one way of getting your content, THEIR way, and that's not what the FCC had intended

b) there are better methods to save bandwidth than SDV, and those methods don't involve the consumer getting stuck with a TWC-only solution



I wonder why it is that the Shopping channels are willing to pay?
In hopes of making a buck. It's a business venture for them, it's not for the "good of the consumer" or because customers asked for more shopping channels as you are trying to imply.

Simply not true. Places that already have SDV implemented have not seen any benefit. We have SDV in my town, I haven't seen any new HD channels, only shopping channels.


South Carolina TWC has a bandwidth problem largely because it re-transmits HD exactly as they receive it - no added compression. We recently got MHD and A&E HD because they are SDV channels. So, guess that is, well, simply not true.

In hopes of making a buck. It's a business venture for them, it's not for the "good of the consumer" or because customers asked for more shopping channels as you are trying to imply.

Ok, I guess I should not imply it. They pay because they are making money because there is demand because there are viewers.

I am probably a typical AVS member. I would trade every shopping channel for more HD channels. A typical AVS member and a typical TWC customer fit two very different profiles.

your input is needed

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9966217#post9966217

SyracuseTWC carries ESPN2HD, but it is definitely not an Adelphia legacy.

Syracuse must have absorbed some Adelphia customers. See Melinda Witmer's answer (below) as to why some TWC markets have ESPN2HD while most do not.

TVP: Why is ESPN2 HD not in every Time Warner market?

MW: We acquired some (cable) systems (from Adelphia) that had it. We are talking to (ESPN ) about (adding it to the remaining markets.)

(from http://www.tvpredictions.com/tw030907.htm)

Syracuse must have absorbed some Adelphia customers. See Melinda Witmer's answer (below) as to why some TWC markets have ESPN2HD while most do not.

TVP: Why is ESPN2 HD not in every Time Warner market?

MW: We acquired some (cable) systems (from Adelphia) that had it. We are talking to (ESPN ) about (adding it to the remaining markets.)

(from http://www.tvpredictions.com/tw030907.htm)

I noticed that one, too. He really needs to start asking follow-up questions. That would have been a good first one.

TVP: What is your favorite show in HDTV?

MW: Well, this one is easy. I don't have a high-def set. My husband and I are renovating a new home so I'm getting one when I move into my new house...I did see Discovery's (Planet Earth) in HD and it was extraordinary.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/tw030907.htm

The only piece of information I found informative in the entire interview is that Melinda Witmer doesn't own a high-def set in year 2007. What does that tell you about the sad state of affairs for all the TWC customers with high-def sets like ourselves. If a high ranking executive who's in charge of programming for a major cable operator doesn't care to own a high-def set herself then what should we truly expect in the way of HD offerings. I hope she gets that new home renovated very soon so that way her husband, hopefully a big sports fan, will buy that high-def set he's probably been wanting for many years and begs her to get ESPN2 HD.

FYI at TWC-NY, one existing HD channel has been deleted with none in it's place. 2 analog channels have recently been deleted, leaving room for 3-4 (or more) HD channels. So there sure as hell is "room" for a few more HD channels prior to SDV rollout.

Out of these HD Channels Confirmed & Rumored for 2007, I bet TWC will not add a single one. Not even the ones owned by Time Warner INC.

2007:
Chiller-HD
Sci-Fi-HD
USA-HD
Bravo-HD
Sleuth-HD
History-HD
TBS-HD
CNN-HD
CartoonNet-HD
TheWeatherChannel-HD
FX-HD
Speed-HD
Smithsonian-HD
BBC-HD
Al Jazeera-HD
Lifetime-HD
MGM-HD
Big Ten Network-HD

feel free, to add to the list channels that we will not see this year!

Al Jazeera in HD???? Good God All Mighty!

It seems that two thirds of original TWC markets (not former Comcast & Adelphia systems) will get SDV. don't know where or when this year.

according to this webcast:

John Martin, Time Warner Cable's EVP & CFO, to present at the Bear Stearns' Media Conference

http://ir.timewarnercable.com/events.cfm

Out of these HD Channels Confirmed & Rumored for 2007, I bet TWC will not add a single one. Not even the ones owned by Time Warner INC.

2007:
...

feel free, to add to the list channels that we will not see this year!

Every time I see a list like this I imagine it being read by Conan in his Year 200 segment.

Every time I see a list like this I imagine it being read by Conan in his Year 200 segment.


LOL i love that bit... in the year twoooo thouuuuusaaaaaaaand

feel free, to add to the list channels that we will not see this year!

2008
ESPNews-HD
Toon Disney-HD
Disney Channel-HD
ABC Family-HD

However, I think that all of us can agree, that there is really not going to be much viewer demand in this country for Al Jazeera SD (let alone the HD version) - at least not enough to displace something like CartoonNet HD.

What are the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE HD channels that Time Warner Cable is missing? I know ESPN2 is a problem for the systems that were not formerly Adelphia. I do have it on my TWC system. I would like to have the National Geographic channel, but couldn't care less about the Food channel. I am simply unaware of other national channels that I should be critical of TWC for not carrying. It appears that some of the people here have a long list of HD channels that TWC should be carrying right now.

I'm curious to know the answer, as well.

It really doesn't matter that much as every TWC "franchise" (don't know what the operable term for the local TWC outlets is...) creates its own channel lineup based on their available bandwidth. What's carried in one area may not be carried in another. That said, it would be nice to know just which national HD channels they've actually negotiated carriage with, and which they haven't.

However, that subject is not the subject of this thread. This question, on the other hand, is and was ignored in all the off-topic bickering:



I'm curious to know the answer, as well.


If you bothered to take the time to read back just a couple of post before the "bickering" started you will see that AndyTV had started a list of HD programs not yet available on TWC.

However, I do agree enough said about this subject and onto better things.

If you bothered to take the time to read back just a couple of post before the "bickering" started you will see that AndyTV had started a list of HD programs not yet available on TWC.

However, I do agree enough said about this subject and onto better things.Wait a minute there! I read back, and the question that you are picking on was "What are the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE HD channels that Time Warner Cable is missing?" AndyTV's list was for FUTURE HD channels -not ones CURRENTLY AVAILABLE! There is a difference!

If you bothered to take the time to read back just a couple of post before the "bickering" started you will see that AndyTV had started a list of HD programs not yet available on TWC.

However, I do agree enough said about this subject and onto better things.
Yes, and everyone went off on a tangent about who's more biased. Get over it. The subject of the thread is "More News About HD on Time Warner", not what news channels are more biased or even what channels are eventually going HD. Unless TW announces they plan to offer those channels on launch (or ever), it's not news about HD on TW.

A little off topic along with a bit of kidding around is fine, however, the direction this thread is headed is toward being locked.

References toward biased news leads to political talk and political talk leads to the mods taking action.

Now, does anyone have an answer to the question?

Wait a minute there! I read back, and the question that you are picking on was "What are the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE HD channels that Time Warner Cable is missing?" AndyTV's list was for FUTURE HD channels -not ones CURRENTLY AVAILABLE! There is a difference!

My bad... Here's a useful idea for a change check out the thread below to find out what HD channels are missing from TWC and maybe someone could start a new thread listing what HD channels TWC doesn't offer.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=419472&page=6&pp=30

Yes, the reason I asked the question, "What are the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE HD channels that Time Warner is missing?" is that posters were complaining as if TWC is ignoring a great number of HD channels that we would be viewing if only TWC would pay attention to business.

The criticism seems a little off the mark to me, since I am not aware of currently available HD channels that I could be sitting here eating my heart out about not having. Quite the contrary, I have 17 HD channels plus premiums (if I wanted them). National Geographic would be nice, but I imagine they'll slide that one in some day.

Why worry about a problem that doesn't exist? Moreover, why go so far as to actually complain?

References toward biased news leads to political talk and political talk leads to the mods taking action. Aw, you spoiled my surprise <G>. Political and off-topic posts removed.

You have 17 + premiums?

I only have:
4 networks + PBS (don't really count those since they're also OTA)
Discovery HD
TNT HD
INHD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
ESPN-HD

So I really only count 6 that I have, 11 if you count the networks and PBS. What are the other 6 you have if you're not counting premiums like HBO?

You have 17 + premiums?

I only have:
4 networks + PBS (don't really count those since they're also OTA)
Discovery HD
TNT HD
INHD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
ESPN-HD

So I really only count 6 that I have, 11 if you count the networks and PBS. What are the other 6 you have if you're not counting premiums like HBO?

FOX; NBC; ABC; PBS; CBS; MTV (or whatever); A&E; TNT; HDNET; HDNETMovies; ESPN; NESN (New England Sports Network); INHD; Discovery; Universal; ESPN2; FSNE (Fox Sports New England).

You have 17 + premiums?

I only have:
4 networks + PBS (don't really count those since they're also OTA)
Discovery HD
TNT HD
INHD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
ESPN-HD

So I really only count 6 that I have, 11 if you count the networks and PBS. What are the other 6 you have if you're not counting premiums like HBO?

We have:

Networks:

PBS
ABC
NBC
FOX
CBS
CW
MyRDC???

Others:

Universal HD
M-HD (waste of bandwidth)
InHD
HDNET
HDNET Movies
ESPN-HD
TNT-HD
Discovery-HD

Jeff

Looks like Universal, MTV-HD, ESPN2HD, A&E HD is what I'm really missing around here.

You need SDV. ;)

You need SDV. ;)
Good one, Gary! :D

But seriously, we didn't get a replacement (or price adjustment) for the loss of INHD2, and at the same time they've added the shopping channels.

The sad part is that I actually would have been satisfied with just minimal gains, maybe 1 new channel each year. Not asking for much.

I don't know, maybe then sense more demand for shopping channels than HD there. Maybe they get some incentive as satellite keeps adding HD.

Looks like Universal, MTV-HD, ESPN2HD, A&E HD is what I'm really missing around here.

ESPN2HD is a special problem, but you should be asking why you do not have Universal and A&E HD because TWC added them fairly recently.

Our location - TWC Wisconsin, has not had a single HD channel added in over a year with no replacement for INHD2 (yet their website, never updated, still has it listed).
We, too, ask why no MHD (MTVHD), A&EHD or even StarzHD or CinemaxHD as have been added in other areas of the country where supposedly, SDV has yet to be added.
Heck, our Sinclair HD channels were never added for CWHD or MyNtwkTVHD, either.
The total listing of HD channels for monthly full time subscription (not sports or PPV) is only 14, not 16-18 (or more) as with other locations.
They have tried to lie about the total, even claiming 18 HD channels awhile ago, got written up about it and I have even written to the local main office about it all.
Still no reply (of course). :(

National Geographic Cable Channel Missing in Syracuse

March 14, 2007

By WSYR-Syracuse News Channel 9 (DT17)

What happened to Time Warner Cable channel 66?

It used to be the National Geographic channel, but now your TV just skips from channel 65 to 67, and you're wondering why.

First of all, if you have a digital cable box, you'll now find the National Geographic on channel 126.

Time Warner Cable says they took National Geographic off its analog tier so they could add four new high-definition channels.

They say there's an increasing demand for hi-def, and they're responding to that demand.

If you're still in analog and see a blank screen when you scroll to channel 66, you'll want to re-program your tv cable box.

The easiest way to do that is to unplug it, wait a few minutes, then plug it back in.
What new HD channels are there in Syracuse, NY?

Email:
"Mr. Bratches, I've been waiting for ESPN2-HD for over 2 years now, TWC.
It really getting ridiculous now, what's the hold up.
I would finally like to see baseball, Soccer and other various programs on the deuce.
I sure hope the upcoming ESPNews-HD channel is included in any deal with TWC?

Very upset ESPN viewer, Andy

Response:
"Patience is a virtue... Sb"
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I was fooled for a second, "Sb" is his initials not "son of a B****"
lol

From the LA TWC Thread.

Time Warner Shakes Up L.A. Division
By Steve Donohue 3/15/2007 6:03:00 PM

Time Warner Cable said late Thursday that Los Angeles division president Roger Keating had left the company, and that 27-year veteran Barry Rosenblum – currently head of its New York division – would run the Los Angeles division as well.

Keating, a former Comcast executive, joined Time Warner Cable as president of its national division in 2002. He was named head of the L.A. division in April 2003.

The moves put Rosenblum in charge of two of Time Warner Cable’s largest divisions, which encompass more than 3 million basic-cable subscribers. Its Los Angeles division counts about 1.9 million customers, while New York has about 1.2 million subscribers.

Rosenblum will maintain offices in both New York and Los Angeles, according to Time Warner Cable senior vice president of corporate communications Mark Harrad.

One of Rosenblum’s tasks will be to help integrate the subscribers Time Warner Cable acquired from Adelphia Communications last month.

Rosenblum is recruiting Time Warner operations executives from its Northeast Region to help run the Los Angeles region, including former Albany division president Stephen Pagano, New York division chief financial officer Nini Facini and New York division chief marketing officer John Keib.

Harrad said Pagano will relocate to Los Angeles, while Facini and Keib will work out of both New York and Los Angeles.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6425094.html?display=Breaking+News

Thanks to bgooch for the story
http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=306411&page=118&pp=30

Time Warner Cable ousts top SoCal chief
By James S. Granelli, Times Staff Writer
3:34 PM PDT, March 15, 2007

After months of turmoil in melding three cable TV systems in Southern California, Time Warner Cable Inc. today ousted Roger Keating as head of its greater Los Angeles market.

Keating, the company's top executive in Southern California, was in charge of combining the TV and Internet access operations of Time Warner and the much larger properties it acquired last summer from Comcast Corp. and bankrupt Adelphia Communications Inc.

At the end of July, Time Warner's Southern California operation grew from 350,000 customers and became the five-county area's dominant cable company, with 1.9 million customers.

With its smaller presence, it had built a good reputation for customer service. But that fell apart beginning in mid-October when it began changing channel line-ups and moving Internet customers to its own computer servers.

Customer complaints overwhelmed the company's five local call centers and swamped city halls throughout the region--from Los Angeles to such smaller cities as Oxnard, Moreno Valley and a consortium of four Orange County cities.

Keating's departure was "expected," said industry analyst Aryeh Bourkoff of UBS Securities. "This is the most challenging integration for the merger, and it has not gone smoothly."

About 10,000 customers in Los Angeles alone dumped Time Warner by the end of December, and thousands more quit throughout the region. Complaints from L.A. customers nearly trebled in five months to 1,732, according to city figures. Other cities reported similarly huge jumps in complaints.

In an internal corporate memo, Time Warner executive Landel Hobbs thanked Keating "for his tireless work" in preparing the company for the merger and tackling "the difficult first phase in the LA integration effort."

"At this point in Roger's own career and at this stage of the integration process, we both agreed it was a good time to make the changes outlined here," Hobbs said.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-timewarner16mar16,1,2073158.story?coll=la-headlines-business


Thanks to bgooch in the LA TWC thread for the story.

Email:
"Mr. Bratches, I've been waiting for ESPN2-HD for over 2 years now, TWC.
It really getting ridiculous now, what's the hold up.
I would finally like to see baseball, Soccer and other various programs on the deuce.
I sure hope the upcoming ESPNews-HD channel is included in any deal with TWC?

Very upset ESPN viewer, Andy

Response:
"Patience is a virtue... Sb"
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I was fooled for a second, "Sb" is his initials not "son of a B****"
lol

Who is this guy and what kind of answer is that? We've been patient. No doubt we'll be last to get ESPN2HD, just like ESPNHD. I see where Charter Cable is getting ESPN2HD at the end of the month. The question now is who (other than TWC) does NOT have ESPN2HD?

Response:
"Patience is a virtue... Sb"


Well, those of us wanting ESPN2 HD have been patient for about a year now... so saying this at this time could mean we may see it in 08 or 09.

Roger Keating had nothing to do with adding HD channels in Los Angeles.

But he was responsible for the almost impossible achievement of making customers even more furious about service and billing than they had been with Adelphia.

Roger Keating had nothing to do with adding HD channels in Los Angeles.

But he was responsible for the almost impossible achievement of making customers even more furious about service and billing than they had been with Adelphia.


I truly don't believe that the top execs at TWC really care too much about what the average customer thinks about them it really all comes down to loss and profits and when something like what happened in "La La Land" happens to a company, losing thousands of customers$$$$$, then that's when the higher ups take notice and want to find out what went wrong. I do believe that the fatal mistake he made was picking on a customer base that had choices and when customers have choices they will always chose to deal with the company that treats them the best.

Carrying on with that concept: I further believe that management is constantly looking for ways to reduce their "customer service COSTS", so we see universal use of computerized voice prompts and drastically reduced ability for the customer to actually talk to a person in this country who understands what the customer is so desperately trying to tell him. Even then, the results go into a database that is rarely read or thoroughly analyzed so that they have any concept of what the customer is saying (until, of course, the customer gives up and goes somewhere else).

Sad, but so TRUE :o

What new HD channels are there in Syracuse, NY?

As of midnight on March 18, no new cable channels, although we now have all of the network channels. I was hoping for National Geographic HD, but it seems that we suddenly don't even get National Geographic SD.

Carrying on with that concept: I further believe that management is constantly looking for ways to reduce their "customer service COSTS", so we see universal use of computerized voice prompts and drastically reduced ability for the customer to actually talk to a person in this country who understands what the customer is so desperately trying to tell him. Even then, the results go into a database that is rarely read or thoroughly analyzed so that they have any concept of what the customer is saying (until, of course, the customer gives up and goes somewhere else).

Sad, but so TRUE :o

Truer words were never spoken! BUT we do have SOME ways to effect change, it's just that it's difficult to convince everyone to really get together. Take the HD optical format war... if everyone refused to buy into either format, the 2 sides would get their act together for a single format far quicker than what MAY happen now. Combo players, putting BD on one side and HD on the other are only methods to delay any possibility of a single format from happening.

As for TV services, it seems one way we MIGHT have any effect is to aggressively pursue local franchising authorities to grant TV service rights to Verizon... while this obviously is only for the bigger markets that Verizon is interested in rolling out their full suite of FIOS services, I 100% believe that as soon as that step is actually taken in my market, TWC very much will realize "pleasing it's customers" is now more important to their balance sheet than it was when we are completely stuck with taking whatever bones they offer.

This thread is slightly over a year old now and what have we got to show for it???

NOTHING!!!!

All the whining, bitching, complaining, yada, yada, yada and still no new channels from the WORST cable operator in the country.

Nuf said.

Well, we had a channel added to our HD Tier here in Central Texas (Temple). But do not get excited. For some reason right in the middle of the HD Tier is a new Education on Demand channel with a bunch of 99 cent videos to watch! As far as I can tell, nothing on it is HD, but I don't feel like spending 99 cents to test that theory. Anyways, I doubt 99 cent educational videos are what anyone has in mind for expanding the HD tier.

All I know is our On Demand SD channels seem to be growing like crazy. Are people really using these things? I have used them occasionally, but when I ask most people if they have used them, they just say "huh"?

This thread is slightly over a year old now and what have we got to show for it???

NOTHING!!!!

All the whining, bitching, complaining, yada, yada, yada and still no new channels from the WORST cable operator in the country.

Nuf said.

Well to be totally honest, in NYC they've added a couple of premium channels in HD over the last year. Hopefully this is the year the dam breaks and the HD comes pouring through!

Well to be totally honest, in NYC they've added a couple of premium channels in HD over the last year. Hopefully this is the year the dam breaks and the HD comes pouring through!

And if you think about it a bit, the premium channels HD channel is "paid for" by the money you spend for that series of channels (there's only one rate for any of them). So we were essentially paying for HBO, SHO or Cinemax's HD channel for the past 2+ years without getting it. So we "got" what we had been paying for for a long while...

this is a crucial year for time warner, I might switch by the end of this year over to DTV if they don't get their heads out of sand

this is a crucial year for time warner, I might switch by the end of this year over to DTV if they don't get their heads out of sand


Switch now!!! Their heads are so deep in the sand they can't hear a thing we are saying!!!!

What's DTV? :rolleyes:

DTV is industry standard abbreviation for DIGITAL TELEVISION.....
But some people like to confuse us by typing DTV when they really mean D*....DirecTV....
Which is a poor imitation of Dishnet's E*.....with HD-LIL, 31 National HD channels...and more coming....

What's DTV? :rolleyes:
A failure to read the forum glossary.... ;)

Congrats Folks, this thread is a little over a year old and we have over 1,000 posts & over 100,000 views with little to show for it.

let's hope the rest of 2007 brings more news about HD on TWC!

Congrats Folks, this thread is a little over a year old and we have over 1,000 posts & over 100,000 views with little to show for it.

let's hope the rest of 2007 brings more news about HD on TWC!

I'm not sure what you expect. Do you actually think that an on-line forum would persuade the TWC execs one way or another? They can care less what you or I think they should do. This is nothing more than a place for frustrated customers to moan and groan. Somehow it makes us all feel better.

As for 2007, don't expect anything and be happily surprised if the planets align and TWC adds one or two quality HD channels. But, I would not be optimistic ... given that the head of programming doesn't even own an HDTV (see M. Witmer's interview on http://www.tvpredictions.com).

[But, I would not be optimistic ... given that the head of programming doesn't even own an HDTV (see M. Witmer's interview on http://www.tvpredictions.com).[/QUOTE]

Like many of us who also read the same article and posted similar type comments about Ms. Witmer not even bothering to own an HDTV set. What I was also equally disappointed with about the interview, besides the fact that nothing really useful was disclosed, is how Swammi allowed her to make such a terrible and almost callous admission without even thinking it wouldn't sit too well with the readers who care about HD programming.

I'm not sure what you expect. Do you actually think that an on-line forum would persuade the TWC execs one way or another? They can care less what you or I think they should do. This is nothing more than a place for frustrated customers to moan and groan. Somehow it makes us all feel better.
Talk about a leap. He was just referring to the interest in the thread, not that it has any impact with TWC. Relax. He's just saying a lot of people seem to find the thread worth reading and posting to.

Talk about a leap. He was just referring to the interest in the thread, not that it has any impact with TWC. Relax. He's just saying a lot of people seem to find the thread worth reading and posting to.

I'll defer to AndyHDTV (my apologies if I made an incorrect assumption) ... but, just what do you think "we have nothing to show for it", means? Since most of the posts on this forum express some sort of frustration about TWC's lack of HD programming, I took a wild leap.

I'm glad I started this this thread. whether it's for sharing frustration, or reporting on the little news we get compared to other providers, so please do continue to keep this thread alive, even though our TWC local divisions are currently dead and waiting for there Defibrillators!

Hey Andy, here's an idea... start a Melinda Witmer HD Display Fund. I bet you will get folks to pony up a quarter a piece until you had 5 bucks or so. Call a press conference, announce that after an extensive campaign, you are turning over the funds collected so that she can understand first hand what HD content or lack thereof is all about.

Of course, the issue is the various news media and whether they will run such a story AND how prominently. Personally, I think from an editorial perspective it's a fabulous story.

Hey Andy, here's an idea... start a Melinda Witmer HD Display Fund. I bet you will get folks to pony up a quarter a piece until you had 5 bucks or so. Call a press conference, announce that after an extensive campaign, you are turning over the funds collected so that she can understand first hand what HD content or lack thereof is all about.

Of course, the issue is the various news media and whether they will run such a story AND how prominently. Personally, I think from an editorial perspective it's a fabulous story.

that's funny, she might give us less HD as a result of public humiliation.

Honestly, with our current set of only 14 HD channels (down 1 since January), I don't see how it could get much worse.
My area is getting AT&T service with over 27 HD channels and although the service allows only one HD channel at a time (for now, in non-all-fiber areas), TWC has not stepped up to the "plate" with more HD channels at all (we have had only 14 since 2005).
Writing our very own Bev Greenburg in Milwaukee has produced zero results, no matter what campaign of emailing has been devised:
TWC-Milwaukee just doesn't think that HD channel additions are important at all.
Our Sinclair HD channels locally were never even added unlike other TWC locations that did after the agreement was done, these not even being national HD channels.
What TWC does not realize, is that the bigger cable revenue per subscriber is from the HDTV owners that have HD service and these HD subs are worth more in keeping than half a dozen or so basic cable subscribers apiece.
Alienating the HD subscriber only makes you lose some very valuable revenue streams and that is beginning to happen in my area.
So far, AT&T HD subs have been happy with the service if they can get by with watching that one HD programme already recorded while recording another HD channel, if only one at a time.

[QUOTE=gparris]Honestly, with our current set of only 14 HD channels (down 1 since January), I don't see how it could get much worse.


We have 14 as well (including 3 PBS stations with practically the same programming). This is down one since January. We are at -1 additions for the past 2+ years.

This thread is slightly over a year old now and what have we got to show for it???

NOTHING!!!!

All the whining, bitching, complaining, yada, yada, yada and still no new channels from the WORST cable operator in the country.

Nuf said.

Charter is right up there too...These crooks have not signed a new national HD contract in years that I know of.

Their customer service is also just unfathomably horrible. When you have a problem with the few HD channels they do have, you can pretty much be guaranteed it wont be fixed for months, if ever..

Ah the joys of living in the sticks..My Charter HD channel selection and reliability have both gotten so bad in the last few years Im on the verge of switching back to D*..Wow! Now that is a travesty!

Honestly, if it wasnt for Blu Ray and HD DVD I would have totally dropped out of the HD game over a year ago..

The business of broadcast HD has pretty much gotten to the point of criminal in my eyes. Christ, Ive even seriously considered packing it up and moving to the Detroit area just so I can get Comcast HD, which I hear is awesome :)

Ive even seriously considered packing it up and moving to the Detroit area just so I can get Comcast HD, which I hear is awesome :)

From what I know, 200 plus miles up state from me one seems to get a LOT more HD than what I now get, so I'd submit you look at upstate NY. Not only do they get more HD channels than I, but their RR service is 10 Mb/s while we were unofficially moved from 5 Mb/s to 7 Mb/s.

Best example... they had ESPN1 HD on a pay extra tier, just as I did. In January, they got it moved to the regular digital service AND got a full year of a premium as compensation. Here, we still pay extra for it.

Undoubtedly it isn't illegal or criminal, but it sure as hell seem immoral.

Go ahead and laugh at me for asking this, as I have been a TWC subscriber for a long time (but am pretty new to HD), but is there any chance in hell of getting ESPN2HD in time for baseball season?

Go ahead and laugh at me for asking this, as I have been a TWC subscriber for a long time (but am pretty new to HD), but is there any chance in hell of getting ESPN2HD in time for baseball season?

You have two chances.....

FAT and NO! :D :D

From what I know, 200 plus miles up state from me one seems to get a LOT more HD than what I now get, so I'd submit you look at upstate NY. Not only do they get more HD channels than I, but their RR service is 10 Mb/s while we were unofficially moved from 5 Mb/s to 7 Mb/s.

Best example... they had ESPN1 HD on a pay extra tier, just as I did. In January, they got it moved to the regular digital service AND got a full year of a premium as compensation. Here, we still pay extra for it.

Undoubtedly it isn't illegal or criminal, but it sure as hell seem immoral.


It wouldn't surprise me to find out that many of the places where TWC divisions have the poorest service and rates has a lot to do with the lack of a viable competitor. I bet if we did a survey to compare the various TWC divisions against each other as far customer service, rates and programming choices we would discover that the majority of the better divisions are located where there's a strong competitor pushing them.

I might be wrong but it's just a hunch.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that many of the places where TWC divisions have the poorest service and rates has a lot to do with the lack of a viable competitor. I bet if we did a survey to compare the various TWC divisions against each other as far customer service, rates and programming choices we would discover that the majority of the better divisions are located where there's a strong competitor pushing them.

I might be wrong but it's just a hunch.

I'd agree with that assessment. I live in a pretty big city (Columbus, OH) and short of satellite services, the only cable competition is WOW, which actually has more HD channels but I don't know whether or not to give them a shot (I've heard mixed reviews from friends). No Verizon, no Insight, no Comcast, no AT&T. I seriously doubt TWC feels threatened by WOW, so there's not much motivation to add programming.

Go ahead and laugh at me for asking this, as I have been a TWC subscriber for a long time (but am pretty new to HD), but is there any chance in hell of getting ESPN2HD in time for baseball season?

Dude, you're asking the wrong people. No one on this forum has any idea. Ask the person whose name goes on the contract-- Melinda Witmer, Corp VP of Programming for TWC:

melinda.witmer@twcable.com

Don't expect a reply, however.

Actually over the years a number of forum members have received email replies from Ms. Witmer.

I'd agree with that assessment. I live in a pretty big city (Columbus, OH) and short of satellite services, the only cable competition is WOW, which actually has more HD channels but I don't know whether or not to give them a shot (I've heard mixed reviews from friends). No Verizon, no Insight, no Comcast, no AT&T. I seriously doubt TWC feels threatened by WOW, so there's not much motivation to add programming.

According to the annual J D Powers survey of customer satisfaction, WOW! has consistently had by far the highest ratings anywhere in the industry.

I don't know what bad experiences some of your friends had, but were I in an area served by WOW! I would at the very least give it a try.

Actually over the years a number of forum members have received email replies from Ms. Witmer.

I found her to be very professional and prompt in her reply to me a couple of months back. I was 50% pleased with her email since she told me that the Sinclair agreement had just been signed but that negotiations were still ongoing for ESPN2.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that many of the places where TWC divisions have the poorest service and rates has a lot to do with the lack of a viable competitor. I bet if we did a survey to compare the various TWC divisions against each other as far customer service, rates and programming choices we would discover that the majority of the better divisions are located where there's a strong competitor pushing them.

I might be wrong but it's just a hunch.

Seems I've expressed exactly the same view. I'm in one of those big cities, and the section I live in has mostly zero alternatives. Mostly because there are a very few buildings that have a competing company, but their "expansion" was halted years ago because they had no capital funds left and they kind of froze in place. Mostly because most the residents can not get ANY satellite service (expect those lucky few that have views between buildings AND have landlords who will allow a dish to be erected on an apartment building). Mostly because we don't even have OTA as a possibility (again, there probably are a very lucky few, much less now that out Towers came down on 9/11).

One reason why we are uber anxious that Verizon rolls out FIOS here. Most data seems to say they have a year plus to go before they get a franchise agreement, so no reason for TWC to do anything until that happens.

Oh, here a good one, one part of this city (Staten Island) is about to get 3 brand new HD channels while the rest of us sit and stew. AND, AFAIK, we both pay the same rates.

Britt Unsure About Local HDTV for Basic-Only Subs

By Ted Hearn 3/28/2007 11:20:00 PM

Time Warner Cable CEO Glenn Britt said Wednesday that his company hadn’t established policy for making HD local TV signals available to customers who buy just the introductory basic-programming tier.

“We have not addressed yet somebody who buys basic only and might want HD. My guess is that there aren’t very many of those people,” Britt said in testimony at a House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet hearing on cable’s role in the national shutdown of analog TV signals on Feb. 17, 2009.

Presumably, Britt’s point was that a subscriber who had spent hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars on an HD set was unlikely to be among the small percentage of customers who don’t buy multiple programming tiers.

Britt’s comments came in an exchange with Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.), who indicated that cable subscribers with HD sets shouldn’t have to buy unwanted tiers of service from a cable company just to gain access to local TV signals in HD.

“Broadcasters provided this for free. It seems to me that cable subscribers ought to be able to get those on whatever tier they subscribe to,” Boucher said.

In response, Britt explained that his customers with HD set-top boxes who buy the digital-programming tier currently do receive HD local signals free-of-charge.

“In our case today, if you buy digital service, which does cost more than basic, and if you then want HD, we don’t charge any extra for it. Most of the other cable and satellite companies do charge extra, by the way,” said Britt, whose company serves 13.4 million video customers.

In another exchange, Boucher referred to February 2005 House testimony by Insight Communications CEO Michael Willner that after an analog-TV cutoff, cable operators intended to send local TV signals from their headends to homes both in analog and digital.

“Do you agree with that? Is that still the industry’s plan?” Boucher asked. Affirming a commitment to voluntary dual must-carry, Britt replied: “Yes, I do.”

Afterward, a reporter asked Britt if he believed his company had legal authority to convert digital-TV signals to analog at the headend. “We think we have flexibility to do what we need to do,” Britt said.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6428870.html?display=Breaking+News

Hmmm, maybe we don't all have the same understanding what "basic" service is. AFAIK, that means you get a cable, but no cable box. Basic in that you should get all the local broadcast stations by plugging the cable directly into you TV. AND is it not true that if one had a QAM equipped TV, one should also be able to get those locals that have a HD channel, in HD?

AND is it not true that if one had a QAM equipped TV, one should also be able to get those locals that have a HD channel, in HD?Yes, per FCC regulations and subsequent FCC rulings - UNLESS the FCC has ruled a particular cable system to be subject to "effective competition". Most systems do not fall under this (subject to effective competition) so, until they do, they MUST carry the local HD stations (that they do carry). The FCC Report & Order Regarding Carriage of Digital Television Broadcast Signals (FCC Document 01-22) states:
We believe that in the context of the new digital carriage requirements, it is consistent with the statutory language to require that a broadcaster's digital signal must be available on a basic tier such that all broadcast signals are available to all cable subscribers at the lowest priced tier of service, as Congress envisioned.

So I don't know what the hell Mr. Britt is thinking about! :rolleyes:

My twc local had all local hd available via my qam tuner, and recently they were taken away.

TWC Clarifies Britt’s House Testimony
Basic-Only Subscribers Can Receive HD-Capable Set-Tops
By Ted Hearn 3/29/2007 6:30:00 PM

A Time Warner Cable official said Thursday that subscribers who buy just the basic tier and lease an HD set-top box have free access to local TV signals in HD, clarifying CEO Glenn Britt’s testimony before a House subcommittee the previous day.

“As an operational point-of-fact, Time Warner Cable offers basic-only customers the opportunity to receive an HD-capable set-top box without any requirement to step up to the digital tier of services,” said Mark Harrad, senior vice president of corporate communications at Time Warner Cable. “With such a box, customers can get the HD signals of all channels they would otherwise get in standard-definition, including broadcast networks.”

Responding to questions, Britt said the company hadn’t addressed basic-tier subscriber access to local HD signals. When Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) raised concern about cable subscribers having to buy more than one programming tier in order to receive local HD signals, Britt indicated that his company required purchase of a digital tier as a prerequisite to gaining access to local HD signals free-of-charge.

“In our case today, if you buy digital service, which does cost more than basic, and if you then want HD, we don’t charge any extra for it. Most of the other cable and satellite companies do charge extra, by the way,” Britt told the House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet.

Harrad, correcting the record, said the company does not require a digital-tier purchase to gain access to local HD signals.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6429385.html?display=Breaking+News

As I said about Mr. Britt knowing what he was talking about. :D

My twc local had all local hd available via my qam tuner, and recently they were taken away.Are you sure that they were taken away - or did TW change the QAM channel assignments (they've been known to do that)? You might try doing a re-scan to check for that.

TWC still doesn't recognize that users can simply plug cable into a
DCR HDTV (without CableCARD), ATSC/QAM HDTV or ATSC/QAM STB and watch local HD channels.

{Insert photo of TWC spokesperson holding hands over both ears and muttering, "LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA....."}

Time Warner Boosts New York HD Lineup

By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/29/2007 5:23:00 PM


Time Warner Cable says that the high-definition signal of My Network TV affiliate WWOR will now be available throughout its New York and New Jersey systems, which serve some 1.4 million customers, on Channel 709.

TWC customers in Staten Island will also be to watch three additional new HD channels (provided they have an HD set-top): MTV in HD on Ch. 718; A&E in HD on Ch. 746; and Fox Sports New York (FSNY) in HD, which offers coverage of the New York Mets, New Jersey Nets, and the New Jersey Devils and New York Islanders of the NHL, on Ch. 748.

http://broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6429379.html?display=Breaking+News

Time Warner Boosts New York HD Lineup

By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/29/2007 5:23:00 PM


Time Warner Cable says that the high-definition signal of My Network TV affiliate WWOR will now be available throughout its New York and New Jersey systems, which serve some 1.4 million customers, on Channel 709.

TWC customers in Staten Island will also be to watch three additional new HD channels (provided they have an HD set-top): MTV in HD on Ch. 718; A&E in HD on Ch. 746; and Fox Sports New York (FSNY) in HD, which offers coverage of the New York Mets, New Jersey Nets, and the New Jersey Devils and New York Islanders of the NHL, on Ch. 748.

http://broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6429379.html?display=Breaking+News


I guess that makes Staten Island #1 in the nation as far as HD channel choices through TWC. As far as FSNY HD I don't believe they have rights to carry the NY Mets or NJ Nets games since they went with SNY and YES respectively.

I guess that makes Staten Island #1 in the nation as far as HD channel choices through TWC. As far as FSNY HD I don't believe they have rights to carry the NY Mets or NJ Nets games since they went with SNY and YES respectively.

I officially hate new york now ;)

I officially hate new york now ;)

Uh, guess what? Something like 94.5% of the population got zip, nada, nothing in the way of new HD. Yes, Staten Island (5.5% of the NYC population) made out like a champ, but only there and NOT the rest of the city.

BTW, the supposed HD "MyNetwork" affiliate that ALL of us got... is nothing more than a SD channel, broadcasting in SD, calling itself HD and being placed in the middle of a bunch of real HD channels.

Still hate us?

Heres the austin cahnnel lineup..

1501 KTBC - DT

1511 KVUE-DT

1512 KVUE-24-2

1521 KXAN-DT

1531 KEYE-DT

1541 KLRU-DT

1542 KLRU- Inspiration Channel

1617 Discovery HD Theater

1635 ESPN-HD

1639 Fox Sports - HD

1649 MLB HD

1650 HD PPV Sports Events

1654 TNT HD

1656 Universal HD

1660 A&E HD

1664 MHD

1670 HBO East High Definition HBO East High Definition

1675 Cinemax HD Cinemax East

1678 Showtime High Definition

1684 Starz HD

1687 INHD HDTV

1692 HD Net

1693 HD Net Movies

1699 HD VOD

My twc local had all local hd available via my qam tuner, and recently they were taken away.


I am on TWC in the Triad area in North Carolina, and we also had our's taken away. Repeated calls to TWC have not resolved anything. Based on our local programming thread, many QAM users are experiencing this in our area.

Just wondering if VSGLF will be avaliable on April 1 as Comcast promised it would be avaliable to them at that time.
Anyone got any info?

TWC still doesn't recognize that users can simply plug cable into a
DCR HDTV (without CableCARD), ATSC/QAM HDTV or ATSC/QAM STB and watch local HD channels.

{Insert photo of TWC spokesperson holding hands over both ears and muttering, "LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA....."}
yeah, this point was mildly frustrating when i called to tell TW that KTTVHD (Fox in LA) was out, even more confusing because i personally don't have cable tv service, i have basic cable that is provided by my apartment complex, so the CSR was a little confused after looking at my account (I have HSI), and took a few minutes for them to get past the "but you don't have cable tv" hump

Uh, guess what? Something like 94.5% of the population got zip, nada, nothing in the way of new HD. Yes, Staten Island (5.5% of the NYC population) made out like a champ, but only there and NOT the rest of the city.

BTW, the supposed HD "MyNetwork" affiliate that ALL of us got... is nothing more than a SD channel, broadcasting in SD, calling itself HD and being placed in the middle of a bunch of real HD channels.

Still hate us?


They took out Universal HD for this MY Network crap? what the heck, come August we won't be able to watch night matches of the US tennis Open in high def that was on the Universal HD network? Last years matches under the lights were great matches including that classic agassi match.

They took out Universal HD for this MY Network crap? what the heck, come August we won't be able to watch night matches of the US tennis Open in high def that was on the Universal HD network? Last years matches under the lights were great matches including that classic agassi match.

relax, don't catch a case.
Universal-HD was just moved from 709 to 740 in NYC.

If your part of TWCNYC then you sould take a look at this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=297592&page=346&pp=30

I am on TWC in the Triad area in North Carolina, and we also had our's taken away. Repeated calls to TWC have not resolved anything. Based on our local programming thread, many QAM users are experiencing this in our area.

I still have all of mine??? Have you rescanned? They have been changing the channel assignments.

Jeff

Time Warner Cable says that the high-definition signal of My Network TV affiliate WWOR will now be available throughout its New York and New Jersey systems, which serve some 1.4 million customers, on Channel 709.

Does anyone know if this includes the systems across the Souther Tier of New York including the Elmira Corning area? And when it will be on?

Bill G

Heres the austin cahnnel lineup..
1501 KTBC - DT
1511 KVUE-DT
1512 KVUE-24-2
1521 KXAN-DT
1531 KEYE-DT
1541 KLRU-DT
1542 KLRU- Inspiration Channel
1617 Discovery HD Theater
1635 ESPN-HD
1639 Fox Sports - HD
1649 MLB HD
1650 HD PPV Sports Events
1654 TNT HD
1656 Universal HD
1660 A&E HD
1664 MHD
1670 HBO East High Definition HBO East High Definition
1675 Cinemax HD Cinemax East
1678 Showtime High Definition
1684 Starz HD
1687 INHD HDTV
1692 HD Net
1693 HD Net Movies
1699 HD VOD

Show-off ! :p

San Antonio, TX has a few more HD channels than you have, it seems, more as in more StarzHD and CinemaxHD (probably the West or East versions) and has Wealth HD VOD, too.
It uses SDV (as I understand it) as it has asterisks on the A&EHD and MHD channels listings, denoting that you have to have a HD STB to get them vs. with a cablecard you cannot access.

Time Warner Cable says that the high-definition signal of My Network TV affiliate WWOR will now be available throughout its New York and New Jersey systems, which serve some 1.4 million customers, on Channel 709.

Does anyone know if this includes the systems across the Souther Tier of New York including the Elmira Corning area? And when it will be on?

Bill G

It's a BS flat out lie. Channel 709 is 100% a 720 x 48- signal, pure SD. AND it's a far, far WORSE SD picture than any other SD channel we get from them in NYC.

Seems to me you guys are about 1000% ahead of us in service from TWC (assuming you are part of the "Central NY" district). From what I've read, you get a 10Mb/s RoadRunner, ESPN HD 1 AND 2 on the regular tier AND got a full year of SHO (including HD) for FREE when you lost InHD2 from a HD tier.

The Southern Tier of NY is not part of the Central NYsystem. This afternoon though, TWC added YES HD on channel 721. I have not seen any anouncements of this.

Bill G

Brighthouse Networks in Tampa and Orlando just got ESPN2HD today.

Michael

Brighthouse Networks in Tampa and Orlando just got ESPN2HD today.

Michael

that could be a very good sign people!!!

it has been discussed in the past that Brighthouse Networks is a TWC clone.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/31/is-hell-freezing-over-time-warner-cable-to-add-espn2/

Time Warner South Carolina added ESPN2 HD this afternoon to the HD Tier.

Time Warner South Carolina added ESPN2 HD this afternoon to the HD Tier.

congrats..

their goes another TWC division that never had ESPN2-HD before.
keep your eyes open guys!

I received an email from a TW spokesman on Tuesday in response to a complaint about the lack of HD programming:

"Word today from our Corporate programming group is that the ESPN master contract (which includes ESPN2HD) should be signed this week."

He also mentioned that they "hope to add National Geographic HD soon."

Once National Geographic is added, exactly what existing HD channels will TWC be denying you guys? (The way people talk on this thread, I would expect to see a list of dozens of channels. Certainly, the list will contain at least a half-dozen.)

Once National Geographic is added, exactly what existing HD channels will TWC be denying you guys? (The way people talk on this thread, I would expect to see a list of dozens of channels. Certainly, the list will contain at least a half-dozen.)

take a look at the very first post in this thread for some insight.

Once National Geographic is added, exactly what existing HD channels will TWC be denying you guys? (The way people talk on this thread, I would expect to see a list of dozens of channels. Certainly, the list will contain at least a half-dozen.)

That's going to vary all over the lot, TWC seems to be at the point where you get big differences even in the same city.

Where I live, try:

NG HD
ESPN 2 HD
FSNY HD
MHD
A&E HD
Versus HD
any PPV HD
any VOD HD

AND I'm not even mentioning the Voom channels...

From LonghornXP

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthr...?t=51362&page=4

"I called Fred and this is what I was told should be coming soon.

TMC HD within weeks (deal is done so weeks is the launching of it on the various systems).

Cinemax HD is expected to have a deal in a couple of weeks.

ESPN2 HD will be done before the start of baseball.

MTV HD and NGC HD are being worked on but no ETA yet but we might see them before or around the summer.

Starz HD and Starz On Demand will be at least 4th QT of 2006 wait.

I hope this helps you all out."

Ha, this post is from March 06, 2006, a year ago. We got Cinemax and Starz HD and NONE of the others. Dare I point out that long time Cinemax and Starz customers have been PAYING for the HD channel for YEARS before we actually got them. AND we STILL don't have Starz OnDemand, even though it's supposed to be a part of what you pay for them.

Ha, this post is from March 06, 2006, a year ago. We got Cinemax and Starz HD and NONE of the others. Dare I point out that long time Cinemax and Starz customers have been PAYING for the HD channel for YEARS before we actually got them. AND we STILL don't have Starz OnDemand, even though it's supposed to be a part of what you pay for them.

Here in Columbus, OH we have gotten NONE of those (doesn't TWC even have ownership in Cinemax?). I'm not a premium channel subscriber, but we're sitting at HBO and Showtime. All we have had added, to my knowledge, is ABC and Fox from the whole Sinclair debacle.

All of my fingers and toes are crossed that ESPN2HD makes it soon for baseball season.

Here's our spread: http://www.timewarnercable.com/midohio/products/hdtv.html

That's going to vary all over the lot, TWC seems to be at the point where you get big differences even in the same city.

Where I live, try:

NG HD
ESPN 2 HD
FSNY HD
MHD
A&E HD
Versus HD
any PPV HD
any VOD HD

AND I'm not even mentioning the Voom channels...

NG HD = I would like this one, too, but I can wait.
ESPN2 HD = Have it, but HD is pretty slim pickings, so you can relax just a little.
FSNY HD = Have FSNE, but only shows Celtic home games. (more slim pickings)
MHD HD = Have it, but YUCK! Would prefer TWC saved the bandwidth.
A&E HD = Have it, but HD is VERY slim pickings, so .................
Versus HD (The Outdoor Channel) = This would be nice, too, just like NG HD.
PPV & VOD = Personally, I couldn't care less about these, but of course other people do, I suppose.

All in all, you appear to be not too bad off. Naturally, ESPN2 is a concern. One of these days they're going to show another event in HD.

My comments are a little tongue in cheek. We all want the maximum number of HD channels so that all options are open, but it seems like the posters here are frustrated by the delay of what is actually pretty inconsequential. As long as you have the primary networks, ESPN and a couple of spare general entertainment channels, you're pretty much good to go for HD right now. We'll all be catching up on additional channels over the next year, I would wager. Certainly, folks should not be standing and pounding their heads and fists in despair against the wall in the meantime. It's time for a fresh and positive outlook.

Every college football game on ESPN2 last year was in HD. It really pissed me off that I didn't get to see them that way. I hope this latest rumor is true. Frankly after we get ESPN2 I won't be so rabid for them to add new stuff, though FSN would be my next wish.

...All in all, you appear to be not too bad off. Naturally, ESPN2 is a concern. One of these days they're going to show another event in HD.
...
TW in my neck of the woods has been promising ESPN2HD for about a year and a half, other parts of los angeles have had it for a couple years, i know they have/had the bandwidth because they added MHD, i'm not giving them anymore money for cable-tv service until they add ESPN2HD (which actually has more HD content than i want to see than most of the other HD channels they carry, especially when baseball and college football intersect)

I am in the area of Hudson Valley New York. Since last week, when I tune to FOX-HD I am getting 480? I called TW and they said it is FOX's fault. Is anyone else in the area having this issue? I also am not receiving DD from this channel. All other HD channels are good.

Andy

You guys are lucky that's all you don't have. We got picked up by TWC from Adelphia in August, and we still don't even have Discover Theater HD.

Ha, this post is from March 06, 2006, a year ago. We got Cinemax and Starz HD and NONE of the others. Dare I point out that long time Cinemax and Starz customers have been PAYING for the HD channel for YEARS before we actually got them. AND we STILL don't have Starz OnDemand, even though it's supposed to be a part of what you pay for them.


Speak 4 yourself. My TWC doesn't have Cinemax and Starz HD , let alone Starz OnDemand. We probably have the least amount of HD content of any major TWC city!!

Speak 4 yourself. My TWC doesn't have Cinemax and Starz HD , let alone Starz OnDemand. We probably have the least amount of HD content of any major TWC city!! :eek: :D No offense but I’m sure there are more people in RG’s neighborhood than there are in your entire city. Heck, there are almost as many people at a Yankees game than there are in your major city. :D But seriously, I hope that your HD offerings (and everyone else’s too) improves. :cool:

:eek: :D No offense but I’m sure there are more people in RG’s neighborhood than there are in your entire city. Heck, there are almost as many people at a Yankees game than there are in your major city. :D But seriously, I hope that your HD offerings (and everyone else’s too) improves. :cool:


I don't think so! Check your map. I'd tell you what major city I am a suburb of but I'd rather you look it up yourself! (a clue - We used to spit and chew Yankee (fill in your own blank) just for entertainment between innings!)

I am in Columbia, SC and we just got ESPN2-HD yesterday. No announcements it just showed up ~!!!!!

I don't think so! Check your map. I'd tell you what major city I am a suburb of but I'd rather you look it up yourself! (a clue - We used to spit and chew Yankee (fill in your own blank) just for entertainment between innings!) :eek: :D :D This is where I got my information...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Allis,_Wisconsin

I don't think so! Check your map. I'd tell you what major city I am a suburb of but I'd rather you look it up yourself! (a clue - We used to spit and chew Yankee (fill in your own blank) just for entertainment between innings!)


I used to live in Wauwatosa... We had a saying....

Milwaukee where good ideas go to die!

I am in the area of Hudson Valley New York. Since last week, when I tune to FOX-HD I am getting 480? I called TW and they said it is FOX's fault. Is anyone else in the area having this issue? I also am not receiving DD from this channel. All other HD channels are good.

Andy


Anyone?

TWC Wisconsin has well over a half million subscribers alone, including lovely West Allis, a suburb of Milwaukee whose metro area approaches TWO MILLION people alone. :D

Why our TWC has not added a single HD channel or even replaced the INHD2 from over 3 months ago with something HD is beyond both me and gb4fan92. :confused:

We DO have enough subscibers to make a difference in getting more HD channels added, its just the crappy management there at TWC Wisconsin that doesn't think its at all worth it.

BTW, AT&T has entered the area offering over 25 HD channels with DVR included, so that should have been an incentive for TWC management to move their collective butts to add HD channels, but no. :mad:

Originally Posted by Alowe
I am in the area of Hudson Valley New York. Since last week, when I tune to FOX-HD I am getting 480? I called TW and they said it is FOX's fault. Is anyone else in the area having this issue? I also am not receiving DD from this channel. All other HD channels are good.

AndyAnyone?

I guess not - but the answer that you got from TW is likely the truth (cable pretty much just sends out what it gets).

Andy

I guess not - but the answer that you got from TW is likely the truth (cable pretty much just sends out what it gets).

Wow! So FOX - WNYW could be having an issue with their HD in my area. do any one know how to find this out?

So I guess the Versus/Golf coming to TWC on 4/1 rumor was false? Will we get it before the Conference Finals?

I am in Columbia, SC and we just got ESPN2-HD yesterday. No announcements it just showed up ~!!!!!
anyone in the Los Angeles area recently have ESPN2HD show up? (i know some people in LA have gotten ESPN2HD for years, i'm talking to the people who didn't previously get it)

Wow! So FOX - WNYW could be having an issue with their HD in my area. do any one know how to find this out?

Hey bud!

I'm in the Hudson Valley too! I have the exact same problem. Since last week, FOX-HD has been broadcasting in 480i. I have spent a few minutes trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and came to the conclusion that it's FOX's problem - not mine.

HOWEVER, I did get the channel to display 1080i non-widescreen. I went into the settings of the STB and only selected 1080i (I previously had all checked). This immediately enlarged the viewing area, however it is still 4:3 and will not display in widescreen, which is pissing me the hell off!

I'm hoping FOX finds out sooner then later that they have a small problem. Then again, maybe I should fire them an e-mail? I guess I have nothing to lose :p.

Cheers bud,

I couldn't tell if it was water blowing from the Kauffman Field fountains via the center field camera or tears of joy welling up in my eyes, but I sat down to watch ESPN2 HD yesterday afternoon and enjoyed every second of the Royals-RedSox game.

I'm with TWC in Charleston, SC and found out about the Deuce from this thread yesterday!

We've been having a problem with our Time Warner for months. When you go to Movies on Demand and scroll through the list of all movies, it eventually locks up the DVR. It happens every time you scroll through the list. The technician said it had nothing to do with our equipment that they are experiencing it with a lot of customers and that they have to fix it on his end. He said he had to do with HD TV, the DVR, Digital Cable, etc. etc. I didn't believe him since it just started a few months ago and I've had the stuff for awhile. He said that they are working on it for everyone and it is a top priority for them. Anyone else hear of this?

William,

There are other AVS threads dealing with cable DVRs - you will likely have better results posting there (perhaps you have). It also helps if you add your location to your profile, so that we all can see "where you are coming from". These kinds of problems are very system specific (not just TW, but TW in NYC as opposed to Rochester, NY, which is different than Columbus, OH).

William,

There are other AVS threads dealing with cable DVRs - you will likely have better results posting there (perhaps you have). It also helps if you add your location to your profile, so that we all can see "where you are coming from". These kinds of problems are very system specific (not just TW, but TW in NYC as opposed to Rochester, NY, which is different than Columbus, OH).

Northeast Ohio. According to the tech, it had nothing to do with the DVR but was a Time Warner problem in general and HD TV, that is why I am posting it in here.

ESPN2-HD showed up at my parents house in Salisbury NC (I think it is part of the Charlotte branch) today. I will have to wait to see whether it was turned on also in Raleigh when I get home from work.

What ever happened to 'Voom" LOL ;)

ESPN2-HD showed up at my parents house in Salisbury NC (I think it is part of the Charlotte branch) today. I will have to wait to see whether it was turned on also in Raleigh when I get home from work.

The VP of Mktg for TWC Raleigh emailed me today and said that ESPN2HD will launch for TWC Raleigh "today or tomorrow".

According to TWC in Hawaii thread, they are now getting NGC-HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10205493#post10205493

According to TWC in Hawaii thread, they are now getting NGC-HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10205493#post10205493

Yep, yay.

i would have preferred ESPN2 or MHD but hopefully those will be along in the short term. They just re-arranged our channel numbers to make more space in the HD channel area so hopefully we're about to be inundated with new HD channels!

The VP of Mktg for TWC Raleigh emailed me today and said that ESPN2HD will launch for TWC Raleigh "today or tomorrow".

If TWC Raleigh is getting ESPN2HD (and I think we can be pretty sure they're not an Adelphia acquisition), then my sneaky suspicion is - ESPN and Disney may have (or are just about to) signed that master carriage agreement to get all the ESPN channels (and their HD counterparts) on the TWC systems. :cool:

Once it shows up on my system (TWC San Diego), we'll know for sure. :D

^Im sure TWC managed to completely forget about ESPNU :rolleyes:.

Hey bud!

I'm in the Hudson Valley too! I have the exact same problem. Since last week, FOX-HD has been broadcasting in 480i. I have spent a few minutes trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and came to the conclusion that it's FOX's problem - not mine.

HOWEVER, I did get the channel to display 1080i non-widescreen. I went into the settings of the STB and only selected 1080i (I previously had all checked). This immediately enlarged the viewing area, however it is still 4:3 and will not display in widescreen, which is pissing me the hell off!

I'm hoping FOX finds out sooner then later that they have a small problem. Then again, maybe I should fire them an e-mail? I guess I have nothing to lose :p.

Cheers bud,


I have emailed FOX and received a response from the VP Engineering and Operations:

Dear Mr. ########, Thanks for your interest in WNYW HD on Time Warner Cable. We continuously monitor both the SD and HD feeds to our Cable and Satellite providers and have not had any instances over the past few weeks of HD problems with Time Warner. We also reviewed our HD recordings of our feeds and found them to be in HD when in Network such as Nascar. We have contacted Time Warner to alert them to this issue and we will continue to follow-up with them. We appreciate your comments and feedback please feel free to contact me directly if you should have any additional questions. We currently feed the TWC system a 720P60 signal 24 hours a day. During primetime and sports, the signal is 16:9, during non-prime the signal is an up converted 4:3 720P60 signal. I have confirmed with TWC this morning that they are passing our unprocessed ASI signal for QAM distribution throughout their system. TWC engineers suggested that you check and confirm the setting in your HD Scientific-Atlanta converter.

We did speak with our Technical contact at TW and he said that the WNYW
feed is in HD and that they have not had any issues he knows of. He did
say that with many new folks getting the SA HD converters that he is
getting flooded with calls about not getting HD when the viewer thinks
he should. TW notes that many times this is related to settings in the
SA converter which can be changed in the home. Apparently this has to do
with the display options pages and the original service setup page which
is accessed through a number of button presses on the converter itself.
I know when I changed my converter display properties I had to go on the
WEB and find someone who had posted the info.


I hope this information has assisted you

Take it for whats its worth. I have a service call into TW now.

^Im sure TWC managed to completely forget about ESPNU :rolleyes:.

ABC/Disney and TWC strike a deal:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/tw040407.htm

I'm happy that we are getting ESPN2-HD :D but I'm worried since they don't mention ESPNU. If they struck a new deal with Disney/ESPN, surely they would included ESPNU. :(

I'm happy that we are getting ESPN2-HD :D but I'm worried since they don't mention ESPNU. If they struck a new deal with Disney/ESPN, surely they would included ESPNU. :(
This article (http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/BREAKING%20NEWS/526696/) mentions ESPNU

Hello everyone I am here in NY Queens and My TWDC won't show ESPN2-HD but I get ESPN-HD though. The MLS games will be on ESPN2-HD every Thursday and this is the first time ESPN is showing Soccer/Football in HD. I called them last month on the phone they said they are adding ESPN2-HD and NGC-HD very soon.I just wanted to know if this will happens soon or I am going Dish.

This article (http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/BREAKING%20NEWS/526696/) mentions ESPNU

An unusually early announcement of HD channels, probably because of D*'s announcement. No mention of Toon Disney, however.



Time Warner Cable, Walt Disney Enter Distribution Agreements For Carriage Of Disney And ESPN Media Networks' Products And Services - Update


Wednesday, April 04, 2007; Posted: 09:18 AM



(RTTNews) - Wednesday, before the bell, Time Warner Cable, Inc. (TWC | charts | news | PowerRating), a company owns and manages cable television operations, and Walt Disney Co. (DIS | charts | news | PowerRating) revealed that they have entered into comprehensive multi-year distribution agreements. Walt Disney is a leading diversified international family entertainment and media enterprise. Separately, Time Warner Cable said that it has started an offering of debt securities, with five, ten and 30 year maturities.

Time Warner Cable said that the deal will extend retransmission consent for the ABC-owned broadcast television stations carried in Time Warner Cable systems, and provide for carriage of a broad array of Disney's leading networks and services including: ABC Family, Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPN HD, ESPN2, ESPN Classic, ESPNEWS, ESPN Pay-Per-View, SOAPnet, and Toon Disney. The company further said that additional terms of the agreements were not disclosed.

In addition, Time Warner Cable noted that it will introduce ESPN2 HD and ESPNU later this year, and certain systems will also offer Disney Channel on Demand subscription VOD and ESPN Deportes. Three new high-definition services from Disney and ESPN Media Networks-ABC Family HD, Disney Channel HD and ESPNEWS HD-will launch in Time Warner Cable systems when they become available in 2008.

Additionally, both the companies agreed to make available certain shows from some of the networks on Time Warner Cable's Start Over platform. Time Warner Cable noted that the Start Over functionality provides the company digital cable subscribers in some areas the ability to restart certain live programs, which are in progress, without any preplanning or in-home recording devices.

The Walt Disney will also provide content from certain networks to Time Warner Cable's Quick Clips platform.

Glenn Britt, President and Chief Executive Officer, of Time Warner Cable, commented, "This agreement will give our customers access to an even wider array of sports and high-definition programming. It will also allow us to expand our Start Over and Quick Clips services. Start Over has proven to be one of the most attractive advanced video features we've ever offered."

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/BREAKING%20NEWS/526696/

Hello everyone I am here in NY Queens and My TWDC won't show ESPN2-HD but I get ESPN-HD though. The MLS games will be on ESPN2-HD every Thursday and this is the first time ESPN is showing Soccer/Football in HD. I called them last month on the phone they said they are adding ESPN2-HD and NGC-HD very soon.I just wanted to know if this will happens soon or I am going Dish.

WE have been asking this for a few years.

It's now official - TWC has a deal with Disney to carry ESPN2-HD (see above).

So we should see it added "very very" soon.

Speak 4 yourself. My TWC doesn't have Cinemax and Starz HD , let alone Starz OnDemand. We probably have the least amount of HD content of any major TWC city!!

That's why I said "We get..." But I do read that your area is getting less than many, many others. How about this, in my city, in another borough they are enjoying A&E HD, MHD and FSNY HD while we do NOT have them. Same frakking city!

So one could say TWC is giving 95% of New Yorkers the high, hard one (the are that gets these three channels has about 5% of the population).

We be brothers!

William,

There are other AVS threads dealing with cable DVRs - you will likely have better results posting there (perhaps you have). It also helps if you add your location to your profile, so that we all can see "where you are coming from". These kinds of problems are very system specific (not just TW, but TW in NYC as opposed to Rochester, NY, which is different than Columbus, OH).

Actually, given what TWC is doing, that should be "city and neighborhood." Here, in another neighborhood (Staten Island) in the SAME city, they have 3 full time HD channels the rest of us aren't getting (with NO word why or whether we ever will get those channels).

What ever happened to 'Voom" LOL ;)

Didn't Dish sign them up to a long term exclusive deal?

WE have been asking this for a few years.

It's now official - TWC has a deal with Disney to carry ESPN2-HD (see above).

So we should see it added "very very" soon.

Well, TWC already carries ERSPN2 HD in many markets, but not all of them.

Given that TWC is now starting to deliver HD channels to only certain areas of a given city (i.e. NYC) it wouldn't surprise me that ESPN2 HD will only go to a few areas in the Bronx and shut everyone else out. FS NY HD, A&E HD and MHD are ONLY available in Staten Island, not in the rest of the city.

Well, TWC already carries ERSPN2 HD in many markets, but not all of them.

Given that TWC is now starting to deliver HD channels to only certain areas of a given city (i.e. NYC) it wouldn't surprise me that ESPN2 HD will only go to a few areas in the Bronx and shut everyone else out. FS NY HD, A&E HD and MHD are ONLY available in Staten Island, not in the rest of the city.


I meant "we" in NYC....


And you don't have to worry about that 2nd point.

TWC isn't in the Bronx.

Show-off ! :p

San Antonio, TX has a few more HD channels than you have, it seems, more as in more StarzHD and CinemaxHD (probably the West or East versions) and has Wealth HD VOD, too.
It uses SDV (as I understand it) as it has asterisks on the A&EHD and MHD channels listings, denoting that you have to have a HD STB to get them vs. with a cablecard you cannot access.

It's still not enough :) Hopefully they'll have ESPN-2 online when I get home today (fingers crossed)

It's still not enough :) Hopefully they'll have ESPN-2 online when I get home today (fingers crossed)

Oh sure, but maybe San Antonio, TX will get it first just to get there as they have with all the other HD channels....good luck and happy viewing! :)

ESPN2HD is now on TWC ch.289 on the Raleigh/Durham/Fayetteville NC system.

I guess TWC Southwest Ohio misread the memo. We just got UHD. The memo says ESPN2HD TWC Southwest Ohio.

Im fine without ESPNU for now (until the NCAA Baseball tournament begins)...but why not add it now? If they have room for the big bandwidth HD channel, there should be room for a SD digital channel, right?

Finally no more watching the Busch Series in SD, and Ive been wanting to catch an NHRA event in HD for 2 years now :)

Im fine without ESPNU for now (until the NCAA Baseball tournament begins)...but why not add it now? If they have room for the big bandwidth HD channel, there should be room for a SD digital channel, right?

Finally no more watching the Busch Series in SD, and Ive been wanting to catch an NHRA event in HD for 2 years now :)

Chances are ESPNU will be placed on the expanded basic tier. At least that has been a reported sticking point in negotiations.

Oh sure, but maybe San Antonio, TX will get it first just to get there as they have with all the other HD channels....good luck and happy viewing! :)

Still looking for ESPN-2 HD here on TWC San Antonio. It might take them a few weeks to get it up and running depending on how much notice they had that the deal was imminent.

MLB and the big cable ops including TWC signed an agreement with MLB to carry MLB Extra Innings package again. This may also include Inhd/Mojo getting back MLB games in HD. Hooray!! Beer & Baseball.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/cablebaseball040507.htm

Nothin yet in Austin for ESPN2

Nothin yet in Austin for ESPN2


Southeastern North Carolina now Has ESPN2 HD.

Nothin yet in Austin for ESPN2

Same for Columbus, OH (Mid-Ohio in TWC terms) as of early this morning.

Same for Columbus, OH (Mid-Ohio in TWC terms) as of early this morning.

Yep, not surprised as we STILL don't even have StarzHD or CinemaxHD. I called TWC Columbus today and they are not even aware that a deal with Disney has taken place. They are always last to know anything...I still can't believe these people actually get paid for what they do, but whatever.

Yep, not surprised as we STILL don't even have StarzHD or CinemaxHD. I called TWC Columbus today and they are not even aware that a deal with Disney has taken place. They are always last to know anything...I still can't believe these people actually get paid for what they do, but whatever.

Oh man, that is sadly hilarious. Do they not even receive their own company's press releases? I have to say that it seems like our area has the most paltry selection of just about any TWC location in the country.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that they get this whole thing worked out soon (it could be weeks since you are evidently their first source for new deals...hahaha). I don't subscribe to the movie channels, but it is unacceptable that they haven't added Cinemax and Starz.

In Raleigh, NC we now have ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD for free. In other words, not part of the special HD Tier, but instead part of the "free" HD tier. I also checked my wife's HDTV that has no tuner box but just a cable running into the set's QAM tuner and she's picking up ESPN2HD there as well (on 107.1). I can't seem to find ESPNHD via her qam tuner though.

Now if TWC would stop being aholes and get us the NFL Network.

Getting ESPN2-HD on TWC, Portland Maine. Showed up last night w/ "You are not subscribed..." but this afternoon its on.

So, what does this mean for Brighthouse Networks?

http://www.tvpredictions.com/twhawaii040507.htm


"Time Warner Adds National Geographic HD In Hawaii
But the cable operator refuses to confirm that it will be added elsewhere.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (April 5, 2007) -- Time Warner Cable has added National Geographic HD to its high-def lineup in Hawaii.

The HD network, which can be found on channel 1347 on Oceanic Time Warner Cable, was launched on April 2, according to the company's Oahu office.

However, when asked this week if Time Warner had reached a national carriage agreement with National Geographic HD, the company's corporate spokespeople in Stamford, Connecticut wouldn't answer the question.
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Mark Harrad, Time Warner's senior vice president of corporate communications, referred TVPredictions.com's inquiry to Maureen Huff, another TW public relations official.

We then told Huff Wednesday morning in an e-mail that Time Warner had added National Geographic HD in Hawaii and asked if the cable operator had reached a carriage agreement.

She responded on Wednesday afternoon: "According to who?"

Huff did not return our subsequent e-mails and phone calls.

A spokesman for National Geographic HD said he did know if Time Warner was adding the channel. He said he could not reach anyone on Thursday to determine if it would be added.

National Geographic HD, which launched last year, is carried by EchoStar and several other cable operators. DIRECTV says it will add it full-time later this year.

Time Warner has approximately 400,000 customers in Hawaii."
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http://www.tvpredictions.com/twhawaii040507.htm


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From top to bottom, NO ONE at TWC knows anything about their business. It's really sad and pathetic that such a large cooperation is so painfully inept.

In Raleigh, NC we now have ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD for free. In other words, not part of the special HD Tier, but instead part of the "free" HD tier. I also checked my wife's HDTV that has no tuner box but just a cable running into the set's QAM tuner and she's picking up ESPN2HD there as well (on 107.1). I can't seem to find ESPNHD via her qam tuner though.

Now if TWC would stop being aholes and get us the NFL Network.

What channel will it appear on the cable box?

What channel will it appear on the cable box?

ESPN-HD 290
ESPN2-HD 289

Time Warner Cable: Call to Cut Your Costs (in Buffalo, NY)

Posted by: Mike Igoe, Reporter, Updated: 4/5/2007 9:31:21 PM

Jeff Mott is another Time Warner customer who discovered former Adelphia customers could get a lower rate on their cable bills.

Jeff's monthly rate was reduced by $14 but only because he asked. Then the company asked him...

Jeff Mott, Time Warner Customer: "Would I like to do that? I really wanted to say No! I'd like to continue paying $14 more a month than I should be! I certainly switched at that point."

Jeff says he then sent an email to the company saying..

Jeff Mott: "I want a $14 a month credit for the past 8 months now. They have not responded to that email yet."

On Wednesday, Time Warner told 2 On Your Side they wouldn't be issuing credits claiming they extensively advertised all their new programs and services. So it was customer's responsibility to call.

Jeff Mott: "Their advertisement at no point as I recall said call us and get a better rate than what you're currently paying."

Since many of you have asked..2 On Your side asked Time Warner if they'd reconsider their position.

Mike Igoe: "Our viewers don't understand why they have to ask to get the lower rate. Why isn't Time Warner doing this automatically?"

Robin Wolfgang, Time Warner: "Adelphia and Time Warner are two different companies. There really is no way to say someone is getting the exact same services or exact same package. So the packages we offer come with a very low rate. We are pleased to offer that to Western New York."

Mike Igoe: "So people who say they're getting a lower rate for the same thing are not truly getting the same thing?"

Wolfgang: "It's not the same thing."

Jeff Mott's not satisfied with Time Warner's explanation. That's why he's filing a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission.

Click here (http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html) to file a complaint on-line with the FCC.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=46878&provider=top

Are You Paying Too Much for Time Warner Cable?

Posted by: Mike Igoe, Reporter, Updated: 4/5/2007 5:04:31 PM

Tom Stasio of Amherst is a Time Warner cable customer.

He's had cable in his house since Adelphia originally owned the company.Recently when asking Time Warner some questions about his bill, he got a surprise.

"I discovered there's two differen't rates, says Stasio. "There's an Adelphia rate and a Time warner rate. I found the Time Warner rate was less, almost $11 a month."

Tom claims he got the lower rate only because he asked about options.

Tom says that if he had not spoken up, he would still be paying the Adelphia rate.

Tom tells 2 On Your Side to get the lower price, he didn't change anything in his service.

"I don't think they'd hesitate to tell me my rates have gone up," says Stasio. "But to covertly discover a lesser amount, I don't think is fair to me or other subscribers."

Since others have pointed this out to 2 On Your Side, we asked Time Warner about it.

Mike Igoe: "Customers who used to be with Adelphia found out there's a Time Warner rate that's less expensive for the same package, same channels. How is this happening?"

Robin Wolfgang, Time Warner Cable: "Time Warner Cable, as a national company, has cable packages that differ from what Adelphia was offering."

Mike Igoe: "What can you say to existing customers who feel they paid too much since Time Warner took over?"

Robin Wolfgang: "Time Warner came into the market and adverised with print, radio, television and even sent flyers to people. I think it's up to the customer to be educated as to what's out there for them."

Time Warner says there will not be any credits for people who paid the higher Adelphia rate. They do suggest you call the company and ask about all the options that are available.

Robin Wolfgang: "People just need to pick the package that works best for them and then they'll get the best price."

If you want to find out if you're getting the best rate from Time Warner you can call them at (866) 668-6044.

Phone lines are open 24 hours a day.

(Follow link to see video)

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=46859&provider=top

The HDColumbus.net forums are reporting ESPN2HD has been added to TWC Mid-Ohio as channel 786 as of this morning. I'm not at home to confirm, but this is awesome news!

Still nothing in Austin though when I got home yesterday both my boxes had been rebooted remotely so maybe they are prepping for it...

From top to bottom, NO ONE at TWC knows anything about their business. It's really sad and pathetic that such a large cooperation is so painfully inept.
I think a lot of large corporations are painfully inept, the real question is why are the share-holders willing to let these corporations stay inept, i suppose that as long as they aren't tanking nobody cares that they could be actually making substantial profits

That's right...as long as the companies meet their expectations they can be as inept as they want. Once the stock price starts tanking or profits take a downturn...the ineptness may go away...that or executives just decide to remain inept and cut the workforce to cut costs...

That's right...as long as the companies meet their expectations they can be as inept as they want. Once the stock price starts tanking or profits take a downturn...the ineptness may go away...that or executives just decide to remain inept and cut the workforce to cut costs...
so anyone know what the short ratio is for time warner cable? ;)