This show premiered tonite with the former President Palmer from "24". Lots of action about a super secret unite.. Anyone catch it?

Good show!

I did nt catch this yet but I want to get the scoop. Dennis has moved to UNIT 24 ,-life after president

decent I liked the last minute oopps do I smell drama?

Bang bang, boom, bang bang, boom.....

I'm DVR'ing it right now while watching House...I love former president palmer...hopefully it won't be bad...

Donald :)

it was entertaining ...i give it a 6.5 outta 10

Liked it. Was better than "E-Ring".

Bang bang, boom, bang bang, boom.....
That about sums it up.

Liked it. Was better than "E-Ring".

Agreed!

The first part seemed a little slow, and irritating. It really picked up midway through and was hooked up until the last shot of the show. I think it will gain steam as it moves the story forward.

Now, the HD and the DD 5.1 was killer! Take for instance the drop from the plane. When he opened up that door, WHOOSH!, it filled up the room. The pans were dead on, and all channels were a go!

President Palmer, er, I mean Dennis Haysbert, must really like this show to leave 24, which was incredible last night!

I like David Mamet, but to narrow it down, I like The Heist and Spartan, and think he can make this show work.

Bang bang, boom, bang bang, boom.....

Excuse me sir, but we have paint drying in the other room that may have more interest to you. :p I can tell you were excited watching the show!

It was more than just the bang, bang boogie and the broccoli beats. ;)

I enjoyed the show. I liked that they will weave in a little drama as the season goes on. This will be added to my Must DVR list.

Liked it alot...will reserve judgement until I see a few more shows.

I've read a couple of reviews that stated that the first episode was the weakest of the first several episodes. If that is indeed true, this could be a good new show. It was necessary to establish the characters and their relationships to one another in this first show, so hopefully the pace will pick up in coming weeks. I think it's an interesting choice to weave their personal lives into the show, but I think it can help set this apart from the typical "Bang bang, boom, bang bang, boom" military show that some think it already is. The creator of the show (with Mamet) is one of the original Delta Force guys, and this story is truly his baby. I'll watch again next week.

"President Palmer's" characteristic integrity, toughness and competence make the show work. Too bad he couldn't have taken over as our real president after his role in "24" ended. We sure could use someone like him. ;)

Nice addition to the lineup. Mamet's mostly focused dialog adds impact, and the counterterrorist action seems more realistic than what's depicted in many shows. Hope they can keep it going, maybe tossing in a 2 or 3 parter every now and then. Thought his Spartan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360009/), discussed previously here, was well written/directed, too. Curiously, a front page NY Times piece today, "Elite Troops Get Expanded Role in Intelligence," (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/international/americas/08forces.html?hp&ex=1141880400&en=1364e73ff7b9abb4&ei=5094&partner=homepage) relates to The Unit, and also mentions terrorist activity in Paraguay, one country mentioned in a CBS Evening News two-parter on S. America this week. -- John

I thought the show as good, nice action and the story around the wives was strong rather than sappy. I was disapointed with the last few minutes:

I did not think it was believable that this highly trained special forces guy would not be able to distinguish being in a non-threatening environment like home and pull out his gun and shoot off a couple of rounds. I also felt that it was very formula for one of the wives to be cheating on their husband who is out trying to stay alive. Really degrades the Col to think he would send a guy out to possibly get killed and sleep with his wife.

It was fairly decent. I prefer E-ring though. I like a bit of intellectual thinking along with Rambo action.

CCourtney

I hope they limit the scenes with wives-- I kept zoning out here.
Maybe if Jack Bauer came along and shot one in the leg during an interrogation..that would be cool.

I thought the show as good, nice action and the story around the wives was strong rather than sappy. I was disapointed with the last few minutes:

I did not think it was believable that this highly trained special forces guy would not be able to distinguish being in a non-threatening environment like home and pull out his gun and shoot off a couple of rounds. I also felt that it was very formula for one of the wives to be cheating on their husband who is out trying to stay alive. Really degrades the Col to think he would send a guy out to possibly get killed and sleep with his wife.
I agree 100%. I was willing to give this show a few episodes to see where it goes but that last 2 minutes turned me off completely. Typical Hollywood drama BS!!! :rolleyes:

I'll go back to watching one of my most favorite shows in that time-frame (Dirty Jobs) and leave my a$$-kicking fix in the hands of Jack Bauer. :cool:

"You, you, and you... panic. Everyone else, come with me."

Best. Line. Ever. Dennis Haysbert may just be the coolest man on Earth.

The show's opening scene was a little shaky, and the stock footage they kept inserting was annoying, but the episode had some very good dialogue (though not particularly Mamet-ian) and the storming of the plane was really intense.

I did not care for any of the scenes with the wives. Scott Foley's wife in particular is a really poor and annoying actress.

The show has potential. I'll stick with it for a while and see where it goes.

And my lord, the BASS was friggin' incredible! My chair has never shaken so much from a TV show.

Will the first episode be re-broadcast?

The only bad thing about the show is that last night we had elections and possible
servere weather therefor no HD feed. :(

thats no fun TulsaC.
I watched a littlebit of it, seemed ok.

I would say the show got off to a good start and has some potential to be very good since they have some former Delta Force members as advisiors. Stories need to continue to improve and get better, less about the wives and more about the missions.

"You, you, and you... panic. Everyone else, come with me."

Best. Line. Ever. Dennis Haysbert may just be the coolest man on Earth.

The show's opening scene was a little shaky, and the stock footage they kept inserting was annoying, but the episode had some very good dialogue (though not particularly Mamet-ian) and the storming of the plane was really intense.

I did not care for any of the scenes with the wives. Scott Foley's wife in particular is a really poor and annoying actress.

The show has potential. I'll stick with it for a while and see where it goes.

And my lord, the BASS was friggin' incredible! My chair has never shaken so much from a TV show.

I totally agree. The wives bit did play on my nerves a bit, and as I said in my previous post, I was hooked up until the last shot of the episode, which the gun fire and the cheating, especially with the Col. Funny how she quickly said, Not my phone! :D Sounds like she's done this before!!! :p

Speaking of E-Ring, I think I would have liked it more if it wasn't for Dennis Hopper's over acting in it. If he was gone, and his assistant, I would have really enjoyed it! ;)

As for the first episode being the worst, let's hope so. I usually feel that way on all, and if the second or third doesn't really hook me, it's game over man!

I appreciate the focus on these soldiers lives and the issues associated with their lives. How can you have a job like that and not have other issues?

Imagine if you had a job where you really could not talk about it to your spouse/friends? That is a huge angle to play. Sure they know what you do (sort of) but not what that actually entails. They set up further tension with the CO and his 'relations'....

Special Ops guys are a unique breed. In the current world, a breed that we really need, more so than the traditional soldier.

It's only during the credits that I saw that this is the real deal with the ties to Delta Force- not so much the mindless bang-bang show that it could have been.

I enjoyed what I saw. A bit of reality along with "Ranbow Six"

I think that the point of the last two is that he's incredibly wound and that he has it less together than you may think. Really on the edge. Figure that his job is incedibly high stress and he needs to turn it on with that type of notice- meaning none at all. There's alot of issues with these guys due to the violent nature of their jobs and the lack of separation with their personal lives.

was it just me or does David Palmers character (i forget his name on the show) talk weird? he just kept talkin like an idiot.. for instance:

"we will take this plane............we will blah blah"

just strange..

and way to get right into the drama at the end lol.. they waste no time..

was it just me or does David Palmers character (i forget his name on the show) talk weird? he just kept talkin like an idiot.. for instance:

"we will take this plane............we will blah blah"

just strange..

and way to get right into the drama at the end lol.. they waste no time..

I think that's Mamet's style...

Did you see Spartan? Mamet, so far at least, has toned down his style of dialogue for tv...

I don't know if it was national or not, but after the show, they had the allstate commercial with Jonah/Palmer on.

I don't know if it was national or not, but after the show, they had the allstate commercial with Jonah/Palmer on.

Yes that was a National Commercial

I was turned on by the sexual drama at the very end. But I can't accept that Dennis Haysbert, as a super-competent soldier, would fire two rounds into his own shadowy reflection in a mirror because a monkey repeated his Arabic "watch out!"

Even more unbelievable was the way all the bad guys on the plane stood still, without firing, so they could be taken out by our guys. Dennis even got a terrorist who was almost totally concealed underneath a female passenger — and when that bad guy got got, he fell all the way from the middle seat to the aisle!

In spite of the badly choreographed action, I'll be back for more. Yes, it's better than E-Ring even though it's on a much lower intellectual plane.

P.S.

I think somebody here was annoyed by the wife who always wants to bail, while knowing that would hurt her husband's career and kill his dream. Well, I was more annoyed by the not-so-pretty blonde wife (who seems to be a really bad actress) — long before it was revealed that she was playing Bathsheba to the colonel's King David. (I'm sure every geezer got that analogy immediately. The 1951 movie starred Gregory Peck and Susan Hayward. Bathsheba's husband Uriah, who was sent by David to fight and die, was played by Kieron Moore.)

I totally agree. The wives bit did play on my nerves a bit, and as I said in my previous post, I was hooked up until the last shot of the episode, which the gun fire and the cheating, especially with the Col. Funny how she quickly said, Not my phone! :D Sounds like she's done this before!!! :p

Of course she's done it before. That's why the Colonel keeps sending her husband out on back-to-back missions.

I appreciate the focus on these soldiers lives and the issues associated with their lives. How can you have a job like that and not have other issues?[/SPOILER]

I appreciate the effort to show the home life side of the soldier's lives, but I just don't think it was done well in this episode. I didn't like the actresses and didn't feel that their storyline was contributing anything useful, at least not so far. (Did anyone else feel like they were living in Stepford?)

Over There did something similar much more effectively, IMO.

I was turned on by the sexual drama at the very end. But I can't accept that Dennis Haysbert, as a super-competent soldier, would fire two rounds into his own shadowy reflection in a mirror because a monkey repeated his Arabic "watch out!"

Even more unbelievable was the way all the bad guys on the plane stood still, without firing, so they could be taken out by our guys. Dennis even got a terrorist who was almost totally concealed underneath a female passenger — and when that bad guy got got, he fell all the way from the middle seat to the aisle!


Not to mention that after all that gunfire in the cabin of the plane that everyone was able to hear perfectly and not one them [the passengers] had pissed their pants--at least as I could see as they were exiting the plane---hey that's why we/they have HD so that they can show those kinds of details, right? :eek:

I appreciate the effort to show the home life side of the soldier's lives, but I just don't think it was done well in this episode. I didn't like the actresses and didn't feel that their storyline was contributing anything useful, at least not so far. (Did anyone else feel like they were living in Stepford?)
Exactly, the behavior of the wives was almost cult-like, they just weren't believable, or to put it another way, it seemed to me they didn't believe or agree with what they were saying, they were just talking up the "company line". Either that, or the acting was just not very good...

[EDIT] The one believable wife was the one that wanted to live off base, I felt her portrayal was far more believable than the others.

Over There did something similar much more effectively, IMO.
Yes, Over There was much more believable and visceral, it's a shame it's history.

Liked the "feel" of THE UNIT but the details not so much.

I liked that it didn't shy away from showing people getting killed
albeit not in a gory way. TV shows tend to kill without consequence
and THE UNIT shows consequences.

I did not love the look of the show -- really overlit IMHO and not all that sharp either. The night stuff attacking the plane looked pretty good. . . . but it felt abit like HD VIDEO; not a bad thing just an observation.

I must say I like the "look" of E RING better; richer, darker, sharper
AND, thanks to NBC's airing the SD in letterbox, they use the
full 16 x 9 HD image much better compositionally . . .

. . . . whereas THE UNIT suffers from Annoying Center Weighting
thanks to CBS's insistence on protecting a 3x4 center extraction for
SD broadcast.

That said E-RING is decent but fluffy and light weight dramatically compared to THE UNIT and sometimes THE UNIT takes itself a tad too seriously . . . . but it's definitely a promising show.

and then there's the house HOUSE; MD issue. I love HOUSE

Since I can't record HD yet I had to record and watch HOUSE on crappy SD in order to watch THE UNIT. . . so THE UNIT better get better quickly.

HOUSE is off for two weeks -- annoying AMERICAN IDOL -- so I'll
give THE UNIT two more eps to really hook me.

Of course she's done it before. That's why the Colonel keeps sending her husband out on back-to-back missions.
But come on...

One does not become a Colonel and in charge of an elite Special Forces unit by being STOOPID!!! :eek:

Here he was in bed with the wife of one of his own men in base housing where everyone in the unit lives on the same street!!! As if he'll never be seen coming and going by a nosy neightbor... :confused:

Yeah, whatever... :rolleyes:

If they spend just as much time letting this little plot unravel as they do showing the Unit itself doing what it does best then it'll become something that loses my interest very quickly (if it already hasn't). :(

I liked it, and thought that they (the writers) managed to set up the show's main themes pretty well given the 40 or so minutes.

The line from pres. Palmer was fantastic:

to the FBI agents: "You, you, and you panic. The rest of you men come with me." :)


edit: this is going to be a tough time slot though, lots of good shows @9 pm on Tuesday...House, Scrubs, Supernatural...

You just gotta love a show that has UNIT in it. :eek:

Dennis Haysbert has one of the world's great voices. Got to listen when the man talks. Now if he could buff up a bit to "fit" the part...

Looks like I'll have to devote the other feed of my HD PVR to this show. I was a little hesitant to chance a foul-up spoiling "House" at the same time, but if the 5.1 is that good, then I will give it a shot next week. Besides, the putrid American Idiot appears to have bumped "House" again for the next couple of weeks anyway.

But come on...

One does not become a Colonel and in charge of an elite Special Forces unit by being STOOPID!!! :eek:

Here he was in bed with the wife of one of his own men in base housing where everyone in the unit lives on the same street!!! As if he'll never be seen coming and going by a nosy neightbor... :confused:

Yeah, whatever... :rolleyes:

If they spend just as much time letting this little plot unravel as they do showing the Unit itself doing what it does best then it'll become something that loses my interest very quickly (if it already hasn't). :(

I haven't watched the show, but I don't think the show can survive for long if it doesn't do a mix of looking into the family life and the action stuff. I actually think that it makes the show more interesting to look into the private lives of the soldiers. If it was just mind numbing bang, bang you're dead, type of stuff, the show would get old pretty quickly. As the persons who mentioned the show Over There earlier stated, how well the writers implementation of the stories about their personal lives is crucial. It can either be done horribly or great. It's too early to say one way or the other.

Will the first episode be re-broadcast?

Yes, CBS just decided to re-air it after basketball on Saturday 3-11, instead of a rerun of Close to Home.

8pm Eastern/Pacific, 7pm Central and Mountain.

If East Coast or Central time and recording, basketball will most likely go long, so allow some extra time at the end.

If Mountain time, we delay it so no problem.

West Coast, it's far enough away from Basketball, it should also air entirely.


Jerry

For those that don't care for the segments about the wives, from what I read you're gonna have to get used to it. That part of the show is one of the central themes and is specifically there to set it apart from other military/cop shows.

It'll either fly or it won't; they'll either keep it or they won't.

this is going to be a tough time slot though, lots of good shows @9 pm on Tuesday...House, Scrubs, Supernatural...

Supernatural is moving to Thursdays at 9 starting on the 16th.

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"You're in good hands, with The Unit"

Just caught it - my kind of show. Wife had a hard time getting over the mule, but stuck with the show anyway. ;)

Just another average show.

Just caught it - my kind of show. Wife had a hard time getting over the mule, but stuck with the show anyway. ;)

I told my wife "I like it" she said " Of course you do"...... :D

It is kind of funny, my wife hates action and almost anything that has tense scenes in it. She would never sit down and watch many of the shows I watch like Lost, Invasion or Unit. However, she is generally in the kitchen working on this or that. Lately though I'm finding she is asking more questions while I am watching these shows so they are sucking her in. It will be interesting to see at what point she actually stops doing other things and sits down and watches (covering her eys though during the tense scenes)

If they are going to ask tons of questions during the show, sometimes it's best for all involved for them not to get into the shows you like. :)

I noticed that this is actually a show that is made by Fox. Why the hell aren't they keeping it for themselves instead of selling it to CBS?

They passed on "My Name is Earl" also. But I'm sure there are a number of FOX properties that were passed up by the network then went on to fail on another network.

stonecrd, I see you have a Motorola 6412 — that's a recorder, right? Excellent, 'cause I'd hate to think that you were having to field questions about the show while you're watching it.

One of the best things about PVRs is the ability to start up a conversation (or whatever ;)) at any time without missing anything.

If your wife is calling in her questions from the kitchen, why not try to get her to come in and sit next to you, at least for the duration of the Q&A period?

(Did anyone else feel like they were living in Stepford?)


Haha, good one. My wife thought the wives were all cult members or something (;

I noticed that this is actually a show that is made by Fox. Why the hell aren't they keeping it for themselves instead of selling it to CBS?
The broadcast production and distribution business is a confusing one. For example, at the end of each airing of "House" on Fox the NBC Universal logo comes up for a few seconds. What's up with that? And why wouldn't NBC have added "House" to its lineup if it produces the show. It's certainly a lot more successful than most of the other programs on that network right now.

Studios produce pilots for shows and sell them to whoever is interested in them...The studios and networks are separate entities.

I like the show a lot, especially the technical dialogues ("I need you to sideslip and land on the road", and "Let's do HAHO"). They didn't tried to babysit us through them which is refreshing.

I guess everyone picks on their own nits... I, for example, wasn't bothered by the affair happening in the guy's house. When two people decide to have sex, there is no situation too implausible. In fact, the more "stupid" it seems the more I believe it, based on my own life experiences. But no one has mentioned that gee, it was a damn good thing the terrorists swiped a jet in Idaho (!) where the team leader of a Delta Force unit happened to be hanging out merely hours away.

Studios produce pilots for shows and sell them to whoever is interested in them...The studios and networks are separate entities.
I know that, but why would a series produced by whomever and shown on Fox carry an NBC Universal logo? Is NBC Universal also a production house?

I know that, but why would a series produced by whomever and shown on Fox carry an NBC Universal logo? Is NBC Universal also a production house?

Yes. Universal is big in movies and television production.......Universal Studios....

Studios produce pilots for shows and sell them to whoever is interested in them...The studios and networks are separate entities.

Yes, but traditionally, Fox has always been the company with a preference to keep everything in-house (The Simpsons, The X-Files, 24, etc.)

It's true that sometimes Fox got a good deal by selling their bad shows to other networks who lost big (like when they sold Lyon's Den to NBC).

Yes, but traditionally, Fox has always been the company with a preference to keep everything in-house (The Simpsons, The X-Files, 24, etc.)

It's true that sometimes Fox got a good deal by selling their bad shows to other networks who lost big (like when they sold Lyon's Den to NBC).

Fox is a big studio and produces shows for many networks. Buffy and Angel were two big Fox productions that aired on the WB (Buffy later moved to UPN). NYPD Blue was a Fox production for ABC. Muder One also aired on ABC, Roswell on the WB, and The Grid on TNT, for example.

My wife and I both enjoyed the show, but were turned off by the whole "Colonel and the soldier’s wife" deal as well. Other than that, we thought the show was great.

I agree that the young wife was probably the most accurately portrayed of them all. Most military wives are not as conformists as the older wives were made out to be, most of them want to do their own thing.

In the old Army, the unit was your family and your family's family (think We Were Soldiers...). Now, however, this is not as true - at least for families in the states. Married soldiers in the states pretty much "punch out" at the end of the day and do not bring the culture home with them. However, overseas it is a little different.

When we were in Korea for three years, it felt much more "old Army." The people you worked with were the people you saw at the store, when you went out to eat, and when you went to church. It was a much tighter community, and there was definitely a "spouse mafia" where the more experienced spouses would take the younger spouses under their wing and get them acclimated.

While I have never served in any special operations units, I do have several friends who have, and they are just regular folk when they get home from work.

There is one neat thing about those kinds of units, though. You "tours" are usually short, often not exceeding 6 weeks (and usually around a week), which is much better than a 12-18 month deployment. Remember what the young guy said at the end, something to the effect that it was his dream job that he could be all "soldier" during the day and still go home to his wife?

it was his dream job that he could be all "solider" during the day and still go home to his wife?

My dreams are a lot different than that. ;)

I thought the dialogue and acting were extremely robotic. Didn't like the fact that "The Unit" took the plane without changing their clothes into military gear (the red shirt was ridiculous looking). I will give it a chance next week but was disappointed in the first show.

Unlike most of you my favorite part was the Colonel with the wife. Showed that it won't be all heroic characters throughout.

Just caught it - my kind of show. Wife had a hard time getting over the mule, but stuck with the show anyway. ;)

My wife had the same issue with the mule -- but she is going to give it another week. If they kill a dog in the next episode she'll be lost for good!!

That about sums it up.

seconded

"Don't shoot the white guy" :)

Getting better...

why couldn't they find a hotter wife for president palmer?? i'd take sherry palmer over the starr jones lookalike... i'm not being mean, i just think he deserves better... maybe he should get a piece of the town slut... :)

i like it so far, the grittiness of the field contrasted with the lighter drama of the suburban world...

The way Palmer says some of his one-liners, I can't help but think of "H" from CSI Miami. He had some good ones last night.

My question -- he didn't look at all surprised when the guy jumped out last night; it almost seemed like he expected it. But then why go through all the effort if you were then going to let him jump? By effort I mean carrying his ass 19 miles....

Also a bit abrupt for the new guy's wife to come around to the wives' club so fast. But, hey, getting better (remember, the buzz was the first episode was the worst of the ones screened by the media).

At least no mules died tonight.

why couldn't they find a hotter wife for president palmer?? i'd take sherry palmer over the starr jones lookalike... i'm not being mean, i just think he deserves better... maybe he should get a piece of the town slut... :)



I glad someone else thought it looked like Starr Jones too. I mentioned it to my wife when we were watching last night (actually, I said something dumb like, "Is that Starr Jones?"). Wife said no, Starr's about 3 times her size....

Wife said no, Starr's about 3 times her size....

Actually, Star Jones is about half that woman's size now (she did that gastric bypass surgery):

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429274/photogallery

This show is extremely loud. My wife keeps screaming at me to turn it down, and my volume settings are already reduced way below any other show I watch.

All the spousal screaming is really hurting the entertainment value.

Somewhat of a muddled plot and story line, IMO. Chasing down a Chinese satellite payload and fighting whoever it was chasing them...with a known terrorist aboard?! Shades of Ice Station Zebra. Get the feeling that meddling "suits" and network policies are screwing up the creative process, including the likely mandatory wives-at-home angle. -- John

My question -- he didn't look at all surprised when the guy jumped out last night; it almost seemed like he expected it. But then why go through all the effort if you were then going to let him jump? By effort I mean carrying his ass 19 miles....


I know I expected it. I was thinking, this guy is a nut case and would rather die than give up his comrades. The instant Jonas (FKA President Palmer on 24) moved to the front of the plane I was thinking, the idiot's gonna dive out the back door.

At least no mules died tonight.

I'm glad they didn't kill any more innocent mules :o , we got bad people to kill instead :rolleyes: .

CCourtney

My question -- he didn't look at all surprised when the guy jumped out last night; it almost seemed like he expected it. But then why go through all the effort if you were then going to let him jump? By effort I mean carrying his ass 19 miles....


I think that and the obviously covered up shooting in Jones' house are going to play into the retirement sub-plot the writers have going. This show is still a little uneven, but I think there is some basic quality for it to build on.

If the COL gets busted for messing around, they could be setting up Jonas to take his place heading the Unit.

If the COL gets busted for messing around, they could be setting up Jonas to take his place heading the Unit.

I think Jonas is a Sergeant Major (I vaguely recall someone calling him that in epi 1) so he can't command the unit, but I may be mistaken (on the rank, not that a SGM can't command). Regardless, he's better suited to the team leader position he's in now, than he would be as the overall unit leader (I think, an SF team leader is usually a major or captain too, so maybe he IS an officer - or maybe it doesn't matter and they're gonna hollywood-up their ranks anyway...)

Anyway, we enjoyed the show last night, however:

- There's no way the first team member who fired would have missed. He would not have taken that shot unless he knew he'd make it.

- There's no way they would not have had a known terrorist - a crafty bad guy - not be bound up so bad. That was a classic Dr. Evil-esque mistake, except, this time the good guys made it! But, as some of you pointed out, Jonas might of let him go...

- The watches and compasses contain tritium, not uranium, and I doubt it would have measured that much on that fella's geiger counter.

I wonder what isntallation this is supposed to be taking place at... At first I thought it was Fort Bragg, but then the soldier's wife mentioned she knew the woman whose husband died from Fort Bragg ruled that out. I wonder if it's a fictional installation?

Fort Griffith (fictional)

Thanks CP, I intently listened for the location both episodes and never got it. Now if we can just get their ranks ;)

They showed a sign on base.

I've only seen the first episode so far but my opinion is this show is geared toward guys. It's macho on a stick! My god, they even named it after a male body part!!! (Maybe they'll eventually create a spin-off for women called "Mamory Lane"!).

The wives sub-plot is probably to appease the women viewers. I can't imagine how many guys would be forbidden to watch this show if it were 100% shoot em up and explosions only.

Look at 24. How many times has Jack been in the middle of saving the world when he gets a phone call from a girlfriend wanting to talk about their relationship?

having women on the show doesn't necessarily appease women viewers. w/o the wives the show would just be a sausage fest.

They passed on "My Name is Earl" also. But I'm sure there are a number of FOX properties that were passed up by the network then went on to fail on another network.
And Sons & Daughters which airs on ABC is produced by NBC Universal.

I- The watches and compasses contain tritium, not uranium, and I doubt it would have measured that much on that fella's geiger counter.
Yep.. It takes a special instrument to measure tritium as its energy levels are so low. And radium hasn't been used since the 60's.

So does anyone else think the short-haired chick is cute?

The HD quality when I saw the first episode was great. Last nights episode was crap(picture quality only). Every time there was action it looked like it was a divx movie off the internet. Pixels became very noticable, faces looked like they were slightly blurred, anything moving looked very low quality.

I watched it on Cox Cable and after about 2 minutes I switched to OTA, both looked bad and I am pretty sure its the show because the commercials looked crisp and clean.

Did anyone else notice this? Maybe its just my area, Hampton Roads, VA but I tried 2 sources.



As far as the story goes, I take issue as to why these guys are supposedly clerks. Why not just say they are special ops and dont go into detail on it with outsiders. Also anyone ever see base housing that nice for anything less than a full bird Colonel. I doubt it :) Ok thats just nitpicking but its something my wife noticed.

FWIW,

Jonas Blane is a Sgt Major, and Fort Griffith was a real Fort on US soil, it was just that it was built by the British in the war of 1812. Maybe one of the writers is a History/War buff.

CCourtney

So does anyone else think the short-haired chick is cute?
Very, Audrey Marie Anderson
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/amanderson_photo.jpg

having women on the show doesn't necessarily appease women viewers. w/o the wives the show would just be a sausage fest.


Sausage Fest.

Special Agent Urban Secure Action Gorilla Elite

Maybe I'll write that one myself.

And I didn't say simply having women on the show would attract women viewers. It's the soap aspect of it that is meant for the female audience.

They could just have strippers every now and then and most males would be happy. I doubt most women would tune in though.

Also anyone ever see base housing that nice for anything less than a full bird Colonel. I doubt it :) Ok thats just nitpicking but its something my wife noticed.

O-6 housing would blow that away.

Does anyone know offhand if CBS plans to reair this episode, as they did the pilot last week?

CBS starts BB coverage tomorrow so probably not, if you have Comcast it might be available OnDemand.

I'm enjoying the show, watched it with the wife last night. At the end of the show she said "I like this show, but the whole wives thing sucks". Go figure, exactly what I was thinking but was afraid to say! And my wife is a former Melrose Place addict.

Watched ep 2 last night. Man, there's no mistaking Mammet dialogue. I like it but no one talks like that in real life.

What is Mammet Dialog? I looked up mammet in the dictionary and I'm no wiser... :confused:

David Mamet is the Creator/Writer of The Unit.

Ah, the penny's dropped! Thanks. :o

Search IMDB. He's a big time Hollywood guy. Didn't he do a non-comedy movie with Steve Martin just a few years ago?

He likes to have characters repeat the dialogue of the characters they're talking to, like the wife who was trying to console the widow in The Unit, ep 2.

The HD quality when I saw the first episode was great. Last nights episode was crap(picture quality only). Every time there was action it looked like it was a divx movie off the internet. Pixels became very noticable, faces looked like they were slightly blurred, anything moving looked very low quality.

I watched it on Cox Cable and after about 2 minutes I switched to OTA, both looked bad and I am pretty sure its the show because the commercials looked crisp and clean.

Did anyone else notice this? Maybe its just my area, Hampton Roads, VA but I tried 2 sources.


Yea I noticed it too!!!
I recorded both episodes in Full 1080i HD from the CBS feed off of Comcast on my PC and watched it both in 1080i and was like WTF man. Is this even HD?
So something with the quality of epi 2 was ganked.

Now is it illegal to share these 2 episodes in full HD?

Also I kinda thought the 2nd episode was weaker. At least the action was weaker. Not enough drama and build up to the action scene.

Jonas's lines are instant classics in episode 1.
"I got a man out there in the woods that will off you if you give me up!"
In arabic - "How do you like your mule now? Ha ha ha."
"Now who can show me a Ranger badge?"

Here in Los Angeles with Comcast the HD quality was fine. I looked harder because I had read the complaint b4 I viewed the episode.

Search IMDB. He's a big time Hollywood guy. Didn't he do a non-comedy movie with Steve Martin just a few years ago?

The Spanish Prisoner is the movie you're thinking of.

I'm enjoying this show. The first 2 episodes we're outstanding. Last night's episode was good, but the only guy who got shot was Mac. I need a little more violence in my TV! Thumbs up so far.

Is this a mid-season replacement show?

Noted there were two women writers for Tuesday's (3/21/06) episode, and they devised lots of clever, less-violent solutions to conflicts. Not surprisingly, they also gave bigger, more-sympathetic roles to the wives. No doubt they're ex-commandos, lending authenticity to the plot. :) -- John

Last nights episode was a real let down. Not near as good as the first two.

Threads merged.

but the only guy who got shot was Mac.

Well with this spoiler, I'm wondering if I should watch this episode that was recorded last night for viewing tonight.

People. Keep in mind that more and more of us have DVRs and record a show for later viewing. With this forum becoming more of a content and storyline discussion board, spoilers will become more of a problem. There are ways to discuss HDTV Programming, as was presumably intended by the forum founders (is there a forum mission statement?) without discussing the content of a show with regard to storylines. Aren't there other forums and chat rooms for this other kind of discussion?

Sorry Akebono. But by adding you to the ignore list, I won't see any more posts that give away the story.

Well with this spoiler, I'm wondering if I should watch this episode that was recorded last night for viewing tonight.

People. Keep in mind that more and more of us have DVRs and record a show for later viewing. With this forum becoming more of a content and storyline discussion board, spoilers will become more of a problem. There are ways to discuss HDTV Programming, as was presumably intended by the forum founders (is there a forum mission statement?) without discussing the content of a show with regard to storylines. Aren't there other forums and chat rooms for this other kind of discussion?

Sorry Akebono. But by adding you to the ignore list, I won't see any more posts that give away the story.

Once the show airs (EST), nothing from the show or the previews for the following week are considered spoilers. That applies to all show discussion threads. There's no way to avoid discussion of shows for DVR users since the time they choose to watch the show can vary by days, weeks or even months.

Rule of thumb is not to enter the discussion threads (if you want to avoid spoilers) until you've seen the most recent episode of that show.

i agree with the vocal member... once the thing airs, we should be able to discuss, i mean where do you draw the line? one day after it airs? one week? one month? its hard to talk about the contents of the show without getting into specifics of plot, and that's what keeps the discussions fresh and posters coming. i always avoid the 24 thread after 6pst because i know people will post about what happened when i have to wait another 3 hours to watch it.

Well with this spoiler


Ummm, not much of a spoiler really. Watch the episode and you'll enjoy it even with this little tidbit revealed.

BTW, I loved Mack's response regarding a certain apology. I'll leave it at that.

I was blown away when it was revealed the blond chick had a sex change!

I would like a quick summary of Ep 3 if possible. I just tried to watch my TIVO recording, and our local HD feed had the audio screwed up - surrounds were fine, but no dialogue whatsoever. Thanks.

I thought the 5.1 mix was very well done during last nite's episode...things i particularly recall are the helicopter panning across the rears during the beginning of an outdoor scene in the families neighborhood...and when the alpha team stormed the room (when mac got shot)...the gunfire sounded great...especially the last shot that hit mac coming through my SVS...

Best 5.1 I've heard on network TV this season...IMHO...

Agree about the 5.1 audio -- superb. Also, the LFE's on explosions are as good as in many action movies. Really tests your subwoofer.

I must have missed the conversation about a sex change operation. Who was it and what's that all about?

I must have missed the conversation about a sex change operation. Who was it and what's that all about?

Leebo was just goofing on people who complained about spoilers to an episode that already aired.

Leebo was just goofing on people who complained about spoilers to an episode that already aired.
Ooops. How gullible am I? :o

Whoops, sorry about the 'spoiler'. I guess it could be considered that...

What I was really saying was, not enough violence!

"Now who can show me a Ranger badge?"

Hate to nit-pick, but it's "Ranger Tab" not badge.

Spoiler = knowledge of something in a future episode, not including personal speculation.

Discussion = talk about the most recent (or other past) episodes, including substantive content.

We all like to talk about all things HD, including the quality, sound, etc., but guess what? All the threads on specific shows focus mainly on the plot, content, etc. We don't have to be stuck in our techy mode all the time!

;)

Hate to nit-pick, but it's "Ranger Tab" not badge.

Cool thanks for the correction! I think a lot of us Civilians like the inside knowledge & lingo, if it's legit.

It's part of the fantasy of watching certain shows and experiencing what other people's lives are all about.

It's part of the fantasy of watching certain shows and experiencing what other people's lives are all about.

Then you'll love my new show about legal depositions!
It's called "Watching Paint Dry", and it's all about a guy who films depositions while at the same time trying to stay awake while lawyers grill witnesses about exciting things such as when certain documents were filed and how were they supposedly picked on at work.

You can "experience" my life this summer when reruns begin - only on Fox!!! :p

why couldn't they find a hotter wife for president palmer?? i'd take sherry palmer over the starr jones lookalike... i'm not being mean, i just think he deserves better... maybe he should get a piece of the town slut... :)

i like it so far, the grittiness of the field contrasted with the lighter drama of the suburban world...


Totally I aggree!!!
They couldn't find a hotter woman than that! No wonder he likes to be deployed all the time.

David Mamet is the Creator/Writer of The Unit.


Its Co produce/Created by Shawn Ryan - the shield

Then you'll love my new show about legal depositions!
It's called "Watching Paint Dry", and it's all about a guy who films depositions while at the same time trying to stay awake while lawyers grill witnesses about exciting things such as when certain documents were filed and how were they supposedly picked on at work.

You can "experience" my life this summer when reruns begin - only on Fox!!! :p


Interesting Lives.

Fixed!

hahaha

Then you'll love my new show about legal depositions!
It's called "Watching Paint Dry", and it's all about a guy who films depositions while at the same time trying to stay awake while lawyers grill witnesses about exciting things such as when certain documents were filed and how were they supposedly picked on at work.

You just need to videotape different lawyers. Jack McCoy would grill the witness and have them confessing they commited murder in under 5 minutes.

Funny, the day they air a new ep and no one comments, either we're on sleep inducing medication or the show has lost its following, either way it doesn't seem good.

Last nights episode (3/28) was very good. Much better then last week. What is the Colonel doing sleeping with one of the wifes?

What is the Colonel doing sleeping with one of the wifes?
She's hot, that's why! ;)

When "palmer" (I dont know his name on this show) handed the card to the reporter, I thought it was the intro to the A-Team.

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire "The Unit".

Yeah, but you don't have to sedate him when he flies....

:)

She's hot, that's why! ;)

And also a Slut :D

And also a Slut :D


Yes, but at least the Colonel isn't a slut.

And also a Slut :D
You say it like it a bad thing. :eek:

I'm thing her and the brunette, maybe some wine, a hot tub, HD camcorder. Its all good.

My DVR screwed up last night and only recorded the first 29 minutes. I went to the ABC site and they only give a short synopsis which was worthless in trying to find out what happened (unlike the very detailed Prison Break fox site).

Can anyone direct me or post what happened after the first half hour? I left off where the guy confessed to know about meeting the other mexicans after they kill the kidnappees, the guy in the woods states that he is gonna get the unit guy "fixed up" while still keeping a gun on him and the realtor wife asking the cheating wife to get all the wives together for a meeting to head off the mercenary recruiters.

Sorry I don't know anyone's character name. New show and just missed half an episode. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

My DVR screwed up last night and only recorded the first 29 minutes. I went to the ABC site and they only give a short synopsis which was worthless in trying to find out what happened (unlike the very detailed Prison Break fox site).

.

You might have more luck with CBS's website :D


Ok just a little joke. Haven't watched it myself yet, so I can't help...

Last night's show was the best one so far. It could've used a little more action but I thought the lines Dennis Haysbert dropped were f*cking funny.

So if you didn't watch the show yet skip this next part as I am recapping the last 30 minutes from my memory.

So MacK (guy hunting in the woods with dislocated shoulder) pops his shoulder back in after the guy with the gun harrasses him for his serial number. When he goes to radio it in he reveals that he is Mongoose! Mongoose is the guy that is coordinating all of the assination and kidnapping. MacK shoots Mongoose and gets the radio frequency of the location of the kidnappers. Then he has HQ relay the frequency and location to The Unit where they go and take it down and rescue the captives.

As for the wives, they ended up pooling their own monies together to invest in house flipping.

The colonel sleeps with Mack's wife......... again.

Sorry I don't know anyone's character name. New show and just missed half an episode. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

Is it against the rules to link to a torrent on this site?

Yes - at least for copyrighted material.

Is it against the rules to link to a torrent on this site?

Send it via PM or off site EMAIL.....

man.. this is a great show.. just watched episodes 1-2-3 after watching #4 tuesday.. poor mack... the t1000 has it in for his old lady!!

jondoms - Thanks for the recap. It is amazing how Mac happened to be in the right place at the right time. Mongoose, an american, who'd a thunk it.

I wonder who will make the most money flipping real estate. Good time to be a realtor.

DrCrawn - I wondered why ABC showed such a crappy recap. LOL. This is the only show I regularly watch on CBS. My bad.

I wish the casting of the women wasn't so close to physical type. The matronly black woman (Regina Taylor), the young and fresh pretty wife (Audrey Marie Brown), the hot slutty wife (Abby Brammell, who looks like alternate casting from "Desperate Housewives"), etc. Too obvious. It'd be more interesting if the Col. was boning Regina Taylor, the New Guy was married to a slightly older hottie like Brammell, and the deceptively-young Brown turned out to be the true-believer den mother. Or something like that. Something against expectations. But I guess the point in network TV is that you can just flip the show on, having never seen it, and instantly understand the dynamics between the characters just by looking at the actors.

You say it like it a bad thing. :eek:

I'm thing her and the brunette, maybe some wine, a hot tub, HD camcorder. Its all good.

Mmmmm, spin-off series! :D

...
So MacK (guy hunting in the woods with dislocated shoulder) pops his shoulder back in after the guy with the gun harrasses him for his serial number. When he goes to radio it in he reveals that he is Mongoose! Mongoose is the guy that is coordinating all of the assination and kidnapping. MacK shoots Mongoose and gets the radio frequency of the location of the kidnappers. Then he has HQ relay the frequency and location to The Unit where they go and take it down and rescue the captives... Are we expected to believe that it was accidental that Mack just happened to be hunting where the mercenary was holed up?

Or did the Colonel somehow know where their "AO" was and send Mack there?

Because the Colonel denied to Mack's wife that he had sent Mack away in order for them to be alone, which to me implies that there was a real operational reason to send Mack "hunting".

How about this show gets off the cheating wife bit? Do we need it shoved down our throats every week? Yeah, I get that adultery runs rampant among couples where one is in the service. However,is that line that important to this show? Does it have to be so damn blatant?

Otherwise, I got the sense that the Colonel knew where Mongoose was holed up, however, the show never gave us a clue how or why he knew this. It was obvious that he was there on a mission knowing to get the radio freq and then retransmitting on another freq.

Plus, I don't think Mack hurt his shoulder. It was a ruse.

How about this show gets off the cheating wife bit? Do we need it shoved down our throats every week? Yeah, I get that adultery runs rampant among couples where one is in the service. However,is that line that important to this show? Does it have to be so damn blatant?

Otherwise, I got the sense that the Colonel knew where Mongoose was holed up, however, the show never gave us a clue how or why he knew this. It was obvious that he was there on a mission knowing to get the radio freq and then retransmitting on another freq.

Plus, I don't think Mack hurt his shoulder. It was a ruse.

Totally agree on all points. Of course now, it seems like we are going to be subjected to the wives flipping houses all the time.

Adultery, especially with the wife of a man under your command, is viewed very seriously by the Army. If found out, it could be a career killer.

Adultery, especially with the wife of a man under your command, is viewed very seriously by the Army. If found out, it could be a career killer.


Loss of pension, everything gone in one fell swoop..... Very, very serious....

That's another reason why I can't believe why the show is pushing that angle so hard and making the adultery so egregious. You mean to tell me that the wife just buys a ticket to DC and doesn't expect the husband to find out about the expense? Or is the husband so unaware that he'll simply not see it? I don't buy the latter.

And this is career killing stuff. At least a loss of command, if not dishonorable discharge.

I wonder if the book this show is based on included this adultery angle so much?

That's another reason why I can't believe why the show is pushing that angle so hard and making the adultery so egregious. You mean to tell me that the wife just buys a ticket to DC and doesn't expect the husband to find out about the expense?

It's possible, even likely, that the wives handle all the household finances if the husbands are shipped off on missions regularly.

Yeah, calling up your credit card company from Islamabad isn't fun. Although you are much closer to the call center, getting cell service can be a pain. ;)

Do we need it shoved down our throats every week?

"Shoved down our throats"? That's a pretty hostile reaction... and it wasn't on last week, btw. And yes, it's potentially career-killing stuff. That's why it's dramatic.

Plus, I don't think Mack hurt his shoulder. It was a ruse.

I think this is correct, too.

"Shoved down our throats"? That's a pretty hostile reaction... and it wasn't on last week, btw. And yes, it's potentially career-killing stuff. That's why it's dramatic.



I think this is correct, too.

His wife referred to his ability to dislocate his shoulder as a "bar trick"

[QUOTE=Ted WPlus, I don't think Mack hurt his shoulder. It was a ruse. I think this is correct, too.[/QUOTE]

At the end of the show, he was holding his shoulder. He can pop it in and out of socket. His wife said "Another bar bet..." or something similar. He's done it in the past, that was his cover for Mongoose. You didn't really think a Delta Force or whatever Special Forces team dude would set there and scream and cry over a simple injury like that do you? Again, it was his IN to get to Mongoose. Shoulder out of socket, screaming with pain, mongoose leaves him alone thinking he's hurt and gives him time to react.

But come on...

One does not become a Colonel and in charge of an elite Special Forces unit by being STOOPID!!! :eek:

Here he was in bed with the wife of one of his own men in base housing where everyone in the unit lives on the same street!!! As if he'll never be seen coming and going by a nosy neightbor... :confused:

Yeah, whatever... :rolleyes:
:( I can see you have never served in the Military. When I was in; that was the norm. I was stationed in Germany in an elite armor unit and a Colonel from a SF unit was sleeping with the wife of the First Sergeant of my platoon. When soldiers go to the field, a large number of their wives are in the clubs looking for temp. Husbands until their legal ones come home. Most of this nonsense happens on post (base for you non Army people). Have someone send you copies of "Stars and Stripes" (This is the Military’s version of USA Today news) from over seas. You will find some of the craziest stories of what soldiers do when they have too much time on their hands.

I totally Identified with Robert Patrick's Character. It was like being back in the service.

That's another reason why I can't believe why the show is pushing that angle so hard and making the adultery so egregious. You mean to tell me that the wife just buys a ticket to DC and doesn't expect the husband to find out about the expense? Or is the husband so unaware that he'll simply not see it? I don't buy the latter.

And this is career killing stuff. At least a loss of command, if not dishonorable discharge.

This is very realistic. see my post just above this one. Maybe you were not aware of what happened to the Sergeant Major of the Army a few years back; now you have the top enlisted guy in the Army who threw his career out the window with his extra marital affairs. He also has a twin brother who was Sergeant Major of the Army in USEURA (US ARMY in Europe.) a good guy.

I can see you have never served in the Military. When I was in; that was the norm. I was stationed in Germany in an elite armor unit and a Colonel from a SF unit was sleeping with the wife of the First Sergeant of my platoon. When soldiers go to the field, a large number of their wives are in the clubs looking for temp. Husbands until their legal ones come home. Most of this nonsense happens on post (base for you non Army people). Have someone send you copies of "Stars and Stripes" (This is the Military’s version of USA Today news) from over seas. You will find some of the craziest stories of what soldiers do when they have too much time on their hands.

I totally Identified with Robert Patrick's Character. It was like being back in the service.


I don't think you made a valid case denouncing what Mr. Cuddles said. His argument was HOW could this be done with NOBODY noticing. Obviously you are in agreement with that statement as you were aware of the Colonol sleeping with the First Seargent's wife. He wasn't saying it doesn't happen. He's wondering how it could happen on a 'BASE' where everyong in the UNIT lives on the same street without anyone knowing.

I don't think you made a valid case denouncing what Mr. Cuddles said. His argument was HOW could this be done with NOBODY noticing. Obviously you are in agreement with that statement as you were aware of the Colonol sleeping with the First Seargent's wife. He wasn't saying it doesn't happen. He's wondering how it could happen on a 'BASE' where everyong in the UNIT lives on the same street without anyone knowing.

Well, we don't really know that nobody else on the street knows what's going on, except, of course, for Mack. I'll bet we'll find that some of the other wives have their suspicions, especially Pres. Palmer's wife.

Well, we don't really know that nobody else on the street knows what's going on, except, of course, for Mack. I'll bet we'll find that some of the other wives have their suspicions, especially Pres. Palmer's wife.


Agreed. I wasn't saying yes or no to that....I was debating Darthjedi's comments to Mr. Cuddles.

I was debating Darthjedi's comments to Mr. Cuddles.

If you say that out loud, you're likely to get beat up. ;)

Cool thanks for the correction! I think a lot of us Civilians like the inside knowledge & lingo, if it's legit.

It's part of the fantasy of watching certain shows and experiencing what other people's lives are all about.

You really should read Haney's book. I have a friend (former Ranger) that washed out during the 2nd stage of selection for Delta. He said the book is spot on.

edited to add the title of book: Inside Delta Force (Eric Haney)

If you say that out loud, you're likely to get beat up. ;)

Maybe I should have mumbled it...LOL!!

ok episode last night.
I think it is in a tough slot on Tuesday night at 9 after a boring show 8-9.
If it was on a different night on a different time it might do better.

I liked how President Palmer handled his daughter.
The side story of Bob Brown escaping Spain was alright.
I probably owuld have liked it more if I served and was in such a situation.

I found Mack's comments interesting there at the end. He seemed to imply that getting some on the side was fine if you were in a different country. Maybe his wife knows and this is her revenge.

I don't think you made a valid case denouncing what Mr. Cuddles said. His argument was HOW could this be done with NOBODY noticing. Obviously you are in agreement with that statement as you were aware of the Colonol sleeping with the First Seargent's wife. He wasn't saying it doesn't happen. He's wondering how it could happen on a 'BASE' where everyong in the UNIT lives on the same street without anyone knowing.
It was a long time before it came to light......It may take a while on the unit but it will come out.

There was an interesting interview with Mamet on The Treatment the other day -- it's a half-hour interview show that airs on KCRW in L.A. but is available as a podcast or streaming from their website. He talks about the idea behind the show, how it came about, what it all means, his approach to dramaturgy, etc. Well worth listening to.

You can get it here...
http://www.kcrw.com/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?show_code=tt&tmplt_type=Program

... or from your iTunes.

Adultery, especially with the wife of a man under your command, is viewed very seriously by the Army. If found out, it could be a career killer.


Yep, thats the one part of this show that irks me, no CO in his right mind would be knocking boots with one of his soldiers wives......military communities cannot keep secrets very long.

It does happen though. I know of quite a few cases, including a Battalion commander (LTC) that was "retired" (no pension) after sleeping with the wife of one of his company commanders (MAJ).

So yes - it's stupid, risky, and hard to keep a secret - but it does happen anyway. My only hope from the show's standpoint is that if/when it is found out, they drop the hammer on him and don't just gloss over it.

I was in the 3rd Rngr Bn for 3 years, you couldn't take a dump without it being spread around as part of the gossip circuit. Soldiers, adn especially soldiers wives, love to gossip.

My dad was a Ranger - I think even I heard about you taking that dump. :)

My dad was a Ranger - I think even I heard about you taking that dump. :)

LOL.....okay who are you?

BTW hope your dad wasn't a LTC in Hawaii circa 1994, otherwise he had serious poopy pants, not of his doing.

Way before that. Retired in 1986.

Yep, thats the one part of this show that irks me, no CO in his right mind would be knocking boots with one of his soldiers wives......military communities cannot keep secrets very long.The right mind part of your statement is true, but the CO knocking boots with one of his soldiers wives happens all the time and is very common.

I would say that Robert Patrick's character is not in his right mind.

Enjoyed most of this week's episode, but the prolonged soap-opera sequences (e.g. college is too tough, where's my birth certificate) had me squirming. Couldn't help but compare it to producer Mamet's fast-paced, riveting, Spartan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360009/). Recall seeing a man and woman listed as co-writers this week. Hmm. Maybe, to maintain what appears to be a network requirement, they could spin the soap material off into a daytime associated series. :-) -- John

Enjoyed most of this week's episode, but the prolonged soap-opera sequences (e.g. college is too tough, where's my birth certificate) had me squirming. Couldn't help but compare it to producer Mamet's fast-paced, riveting, Spartan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360009/). Recall seeing a man and woman listed as co-writers this week. Hmm. Maybe, to maintain what appears to be a network requirement, they could spin the soap material off into a daytime associated series. :-) -- John

It's the home life and family storylines that keep this show from being just another NCIS / JAG / CSI procedural, of which there are already way too many on CBS right now.

For you Military folks, help me out. I've talked to a lot of my Military buddies (haven't had a chance to talk to my brother...Special Forces) about this show.

I always thought that Delta Force were pushed to live with civilians and blend in. Big reason many of them don't look "Military" per say. When they were needed, they were called up on covert operations. I thought this show was based on the Delta Force...didn't think they lived on a 'Base'. Some of my buddies that were in the Miliary said they don't live on the base.

Some of these questions are addressed by Mamet in the interview that I linked.

in HDTV the chop frame editing and dizzying camera use is very annoying on a big screen (during action scenes especially). anyone else notice this?

it's a real shame as it is visually distracting

My son lives in Beirut and says that you can't legally get through customs if your passport has Israeli stamps, so they obviously got into the country without showing their passports. But if anyone has to show their passport at the Iranian embassy their cover will be blown. I don't think the 'problem' had anything to to do with the operative being jewish. btw I did not see the the last 10 minutes of the show after they left the embassy.

One liner of the year from this show: "If you want to micro manage little pieces go play chess." I hear that and cracked up.

btw I did not see the the last 10 minutes of the show after they left the embassy.

Well, then... you missed it...

My son lives in Beirut and says that you can't legally get through customs if your passport has Israeli stamps, so they obviously got into the country without showing their passports. But if anyone has to show their passport at the Iranian embassy their cover will be blown. I don't think the 'problem' had anything to to do with the operative being jewish. btw I did not see the the last 10 minutes of the show after they left the embassy.


The last 10 minutes explained your comments above.

Thought this week's episode, written by Mamet, the series creator, was quite effective. Nice show. Too bad he can't crank out most of the shows, although that's a lot of writing. -- John

This show is quickly becoming one of my favorites. I thought I'd hate seein the wives involved, but seeing one mess up and get her husband kicked out was awesome. The one thing I don't get is, why give only one transmitter? Even if they're expensive, having each member have one would have made the transfer to the double agent easier (I know they didn't use the agent, but the mission planners couldn't have known).

The one thing I don't get is, why give only one transmitter? Even if they're expensive, having each member have one would have made the transfer to the double agent easier (I know they didn't use the agent, but the mission planners couldn't have known).

Obviously it was never their plan to use the double agent woman, they wanted it in the limo where a conversation that they might actually get good intel on would be heard.

I think this show is progressing nicely, and hopefully gets a full season order from CBS for next season. My wife is on board to bypass 'House' for this show, so I'm enjoying the change of pace. Good show, CBS!

Obviously it was never their plan to use the double agent woman, they wanted it in the limo where a conversation that they might actually get good intel on would be heard.

Yes, the men from The Unit had it planned that way, but you'd think that the CIA (who only knew of the plan involving the double agent) would have given them more than one transmitter as Milmanias said.

I think the question is whether the gambit was just misleading the audience or also the Iranians.

Obviously, the CIA chick had no clue as to the real plan. But was the unit counting on a leak and the Iranians watching the wrong people? The leader was treated courteously, but carefully monitored the entire time, and never could have passed the bug. Counting on some type of leak (maybe the dork diplomat) may have been of the total plan.

Obviously it was never their plan to use the double agent woman, they wanted it in the limo where a conversation that they might actually get good intel on would be heard.
She was supposed to plant it on someone. Apparently Sgt Major decided that was less effective than his unit taking care of it their own way. So he faked the passport and changed the plan without the other agencies knowing.

I'm impressed with the trust he and the Col. put in the newest member almost every episode. Don't know a thing about such a unit IRL, but you'd think there'd be a honeymoon period.

In that business, there is no honeymoon period. There's no ramp up time for that first mission. Get the kinks out in training, or you're out.

They've touched a bit on the fact that they are training constantly for specific needs. When the soldiers are selected for the job, they're already very proficient at what they do. I'd imagaine that they're all at elast E-6 and up with a CIB, Ranger school, current jump qual etc.

then again, I have seen 18 year olds go into Navy BUDs (and make it into the teams)- thanks, Discovery channel.

She was supposed to plant it on someone. Apparently Sgt Major decided that was less effective than his unit taking care of it their own way. So he faked the passport and changed the plan without the other agencies knowing.

I'm impressed with the trust he and the Col. put in the newest member almost every episode. Don't know a thing about such a unit IRL, but you'd think there'd be a honeymoon period.

Nah, it was planned the way it down from the beginning. Bob and Mack were practicing the destraction/stealing of walkie-talkie before Jonas was told that Bob Brown would not be allowed inside the embassy. Also, they had his faked passport ahead of time, all ready to go so that he would get intentionally flagged as not being able to enter. They went from one embassy to the other right after they were told he would not be allowed in, so they must have had that fake passport beforehand.

The original plan, the one the CIA was monitoring, was for the woman to plant it in the conference room (or maybe on a specific person, but not likely). She would get the bug from Jonas (hidden behind his bandage), except that it was never there to begin with (Bob had it from the beginning). The other members of the team had to play along like they were going to use the woman to plant it, knowing the entire time that Brown was taking care of it on the outside.

Anyway, there was no point in each member having their own bug/transmitter. The "real" plan was to have one bug inside the limo, where "real" covert discussions would be made (not in the embassy, where they couldn't discuss things publicly).

My son lives in Beirut and says that you can't legally get through customs if your passport has Israeli stamps, so they obviously got into the country without showing their passports. But if anyone has to show their passport at the Iranian embassy their cover will be blown. I don't think the 'problem' had anything to to do with the operative being jewish. btw I did not see the the last 10 minutes of the show after they left the embassy.

The real interesting thing was that neither the Fake or Real 'Entry Stamp' looked anything like the true Israeli entry stamp (it's not a circle or octagon shape but more like a hexagon that was elongated horizontally. And the Hebrew characters are different. I don't speak or read Hebrew, but I believe one of the words was the same as used on doors for 'Entry' but it's not on my entry stamp. And the character on the far right was not even Hebrew as far as I know.

That said, it did look remarkably similar to an Israeli 'Exit Stamp', again the words were different though. This actually had me fooled for a little bit, but I decided to pull out my passport and see how accurate it was.

BTW, Israel avoids stamping passports of Muslim nations for the exact reason mentioned above. Instead they stamp a peice of paper (like a visa) that you just keep with the passport. I've traveled to Israel on business on a number of ocassions and have seen this done with co-workers who are from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

CCourtney

Anyway, there was no point in each member having their own bug/transmitter. The "real" plan was to have one bug inside the limo, where "real" covert discussions would be made (not in the embassy, where they couldn't discuss things publicly).

Again, the CIA didn't know the "real" plan, so there was definitely a point for them to supply each member with a transmitter.

Again, the CIA didn't know the "real" plan, so there was definitely a point for them to supply each member with a transmitter.

Wasn't the CIA the supplier of the transmitter? And if they CIA expected the plant to be the 'woman' why would they have supplied multiple transmitters? Especially when they were ready to call of the mission because Jonas could not pass the bug to the 'woman/double agent'

The more transmitters you send in, even though they're not transmitting anything until the 'hit air', the more likely that they would be discovered.

It was fairly obvious that there was a CIA leak and that the Iranian Security Agent with Jonas knew of the plan, and kept him in the room so he could not pass off the 'bug' to be planted. This was solidified in my mind when the Iranian Security Agent told Jonas 'Goodbye my friend. I trust we kept you occupied. It was hard to distract an old warrior, but I succeeded. I enjoyed our time together. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose.' I suspected it from the way the CIA agent lady was acting, and I suspect that the person colluding with the Iranian Security Agent was the Diplomat in charge of affairs who took the Knife at the end of the episode. He had a 'you screwed me royally' attitude about the successful mission.

CCourtney

That's the way I read the whole thing, especially when you consider that security of information was the basis for the whole episode(the wives storyline). The Iranians knew of the CIA plan and the Unit circumvented that problem by doing their own thing, and ultimately succeeding.

Wasn't the CIA the supplier of the transmitter? And if they CIA expected the plant to be the 'woman' why would they have supplied multiple transmitters? Especially when they were ready to call of the mission because Jonas could not pass the bug to the 'woman/double agent'

Ok, so I think we can agree that:
1. The CIA provided the transmitter
2. The CIA didn't know about The Unit's alternate plan
3. Most of the CIA people didn't know about the leak

Therefore, if you have more than one Unit member that will be in the embassy and will potentially come in contact with the 'woman/double agent', why not give all of them a transmitter? Mack could have easily given it to her while Jonas was being "distracted" which, if you're one of the CIA people, seemed to be the only chance they had. It's circular logic to say it's ok that CIA didn't think they need to give him one just because everything worked out ok in the end.

why not give all of them a transmitter?

More transmitters = higher risk of getting caught. They must have been patted down and/or searched before entering the Iranian embassy, which is why the CIA had Jonas conceal the device inside of a bandage for a fake wound. Bob didn't get searched since he wasn't going inside the embassy.

More transmitters = higher risk of getting caught. They must have been patted down and/or searched before entering the Iranian embassy, which is why the CIA had Jonas conceal the device inside of a bandage for a fake wound. Bob didn't get searched since he wasn't going inside the embassy.

Wasn't the bandage just used for the woman to identify the carrier of the transmitter? I don't recall anyone saying the transmitter was placed inside it. Didn't jonas already have the bandage on while the woman was showing them the transmitter and how it worked?

Wasn't the bandage just used for the woman to identify the carrier of the transmitter? I don't recall anyone saying the transmitter was placed inside it. Didn't jonas already have the bandage on while the woman was showing them the transmitter and how it worked?

Yeah, you're right. Nevermind.

Nah, it was planned the way it down from the beginning. Bob and Mack were practicing the destraction/stealing of walkie-talkie before Jonas was told that Bob Brown would not be allowed inside the embassy. Also, they had his faked passport ahead of time, all ready to go so that he would get intentionally flagged as not being able to enter. They went from one embassy to the other right after they were told he would not be allowed in, so they must have had that fake passport beforehand.

That's what I said, but it's not quite from the very beginning. Jonas' team changed the plan as originally received from the CIA and created the issue with the fake stamps in the passport to force their modified plan to work. The CIA woman clearly thought the inside-woman was still part of the plan. They wanted the other agencies to discover the passport "problem" to make the last second change seem real. Trust no one outside the Unit, right?

In that business, there is no honeymoon period. There's no ramp up time for that first mission. Get the kinks out in training, or you're out.
But the team has to work together. I don't mean skills, he wouldn't be there if he didn't have them, I mean trust and cohesion between team members.

No comments on last night's show?

I thought it was pretty good, but his old partner (wheel chair) was a little MUCH if you ask me. I thought it ended quite depressing. My wife put herself in that position (in her mind) and it bothered her quite a bit.

No comments on last night's show?

I thought it was pretty good, but his old partner (wheel chair) was a little MUCH if you ask me. I thought it ended quite depressing. My wife put herself in that position (in her mind) and it bothered her quite a bit.

I thought it was a pretty good episode. It felt very much like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter on my Xbox 360. Everything from the UAV drone sending video to their PDA, to the grenade launching machine gun fire, to the helicopter... felt like I was watching a video game (either that, or GRAW is extremely realistic).

Oh yeah, and we had strippers too. How long until Kim decides to make some extra money at the stripper pole? Maybe she'll bring Tiffy with her? As long as Molly's not invited, that's cool with me.

Firearms, high-tech battle gear, explosions, strip clubs. All round good episode, hehe. :)

I though it was one of the best eps so far, and next week looks good too.

I thought last night was another great episode - I too think the old partner was a bit much, but the fact that this show is about people as well and not just another shoot em up drama makes it interesting.

It's becoming one of my favorite shows. I really liked how they focused on the "No man left behind" scenario. Even though Jonas knew he wouldn't make it, he stayed by his side.

I can't imagine being the hurt that guy's wife would feel once she finds out he's gone and she didn't answer the "out of area" call and let it go to Voice Mail. At least she got to hear his voice.

I can't imagine being the hurt that guy's wife would feel once she finds out he's gone and she didn't answer the "out of area" call and let it go to Voice Mail. At least she got to hear his voice.

Yeah, and she'll be even more pissed off if she deleted the message after listening to it. :eek:

Really liked lsat night's show.
I've been reading Eric Haney's book, "Inside Delta Force"
and this show is a visual representation of some parts of the book.

Yea the wheelchair guy was a bit much but all this stuff is pretty true to life.

Glad to see they added a lot of action to the last few episodes.

Too bad they only have 5 more episodes this season.

My DVR recording stopped about three seconds into the "next week's episode" portion. Would somone mind recapping the preview for me?

I've never once watched the show 'live'. Only DVR playback and I'm working the
FF overtime during the wives scenes(except the blonde ;) ), and last nights
dedication to a former team member was a bit dramatic and the whole radio
station segment was laughable. :eek:

Combat/Tactical scenes...A
Wives/background...........C
Overall...........................B

:)

My DVR recording stopped about three seconds into the "next week's episode" portion. Would somone mind recapping the preview for me?


Mine cut off some also, but it appears they are being trained as prisoners and the leader of the experiment/training goes way too far (torture/abuse) and the guys in the unit get pissed.

Best episode thus far. The show is gaining momentum each week. As the previous poster noted, it's too bad there's only a few shows left. This one could really build an audience if it had more time.

I enjoyed Tuesdays episode as well. And the way the old sergeant major was acting was very realistic. If you've ever been around someone who is trying to get off really strong pain meds, you know they what they go through.

When Jonas said "they got a lucky shot" refering to Bravo team getting hit by the mortar, he wasn't kidding. The best mortar man and spotter in the world would have a hard time hitting guys in a 10x10 hole... and by then their spotter was gone!

Love the show (all episodes). Did anyone else notice a fly or insect running into the camera throughout the most recent episode? I got up 5 times to try to shoe it away until it finally just sat there and I tried to touch it and realized it was inside the tv!

Mine cut off some also, but it appears they are being trained as prisoners and the leader of the experiment/training goes way too far (torture/abuse) and the guys in the unit get pissed.

Thank-you CP.

Wow, just watched this week's episode. Disturbing, despite knowing the whole time that it was a TV show, it made me think about when it goes on in the real world. Powerful, and distressing.

Yes...

I liked how how they thought they were going there to do that to other folks, and they ended up being theones tested...

I haven't been to SERE school myself, but knowing many folks that have, it's no where near that bad. They make it relatively easy to escape and most of the test consists of the "survival and evasion" portion. This was more of a "how to survive interrogation" training.

I couldn't figure out if the retired sergeant major being sincere (and there by jeopordizing his relationship with Jonas) or was he trying to give Jonas some info discretely...

I see the supervisor lady being in the trouble in the future and having to have her butt saved by Jonas and the boys.

I think he was playing his role as an enemy to Jonas, but did it to prove that the team wouldn't break. It left us wondering whether Jonas would have signed it or not...

Yes...

I liked how how they thought they were going there to do that to other folks, and they ended up being theones tested...

I haven't been to SERE school myself, but knowing many folks that have, it's no where near that bad. They make it relatively easy to escape and most of the test consists of the "survival and evasion" portion. This was more of a "how to survive interrogation" training.

I couldn't figure out if the retired sergeant major being sincere (and there by jeopordizing his relationship with Jonas) or was he trying to give Jonas some info discretely...

I see the supervisor lady being in the trouble in the future and having to have her butt saved by Jonas and the boys.

That entire scene with the retired segeant major confused me. I can't see something like that happening in a real POW camp, so I thought he was being sincere. I mean...that was a stupid trick if you ask me. "Hey....sign the document because I think your friend is going to die Jonas...as one friend to another". How about this "Jonas, you need to sign the document because your wife was in a car wreck and she only has about an hour to live". I love the show, but that entire scene was crazy.

I know of a few people that went to SERE school as well and they said the same thing you did. It was basically how to handle interrogation. They did get slapped around and shoved, but no beatings to the kidneys. But hey.....these guys are the cream of the crop.....maybe SERE school for Delta Force is a little more hard core.

Before he went to talk to Jonas he said he was going to do it the old way. So he was trying to break Jonas. The problem is, you aren't going to have a former best friend as the head of a North Korea POW camp. That's why Jonas was wavering, he couldn't decide whether the guy had actually called off the training or was still in character, because it didn't make sense. He couldn't even decide after being rescued whether to be really pissed or not at his friend. Probably will come out in another episode.

I don't know if this was silly writing or what. It didn't really work for me. Up until that scene, it was pretty good. Horrible, but well done.

I kept waiting for one of the Unit to kill one of the guards in retaliation. Loved the line at the end, "lucky for you it's a drill...or we'd be 2 miles away." I love understated condescension.

Bronchitis sucks when you are underdressed in the cold.

Very anti-climatic ending after an intense show. They needed to kill a few guards during escape and at least one rifle butt to the jaw of that blond to make me happy.

here, here!

the way she kept saying, "hose him down" right after she found out they were screwing with her showed she had made it personal...

It reminded me a bit (though much more extreme) of the Stanford Prison experiment done back in the 70s. I actually took Psych 1 with Prof. Zimbardo, who made himself the warden when he ran the experiment using Stanford studies split into prisoners and guards. Problem was, as warden, he got too involved and took on a role (like blondy last night), and it took a grad student assisting on the experiment to step in and put a halt to things before they got out of hand. The video from the experiment is quite freaky to watch (especially since it ISN'T just a TV show).

Interesting coda to the story, Prof. Zimbardo later married the grad student who stopped the experiment....

why couldn't they find a hotter wife for president palmer?? i'd take sherry palmer over the starr jones lookalike... i'm not being mean, i just think he deserves better... maybe he should get a piece of the town slut... :)

i like it so far, the grittiness of the field contrasted with the lighter drama of the suburban world...

I know this comment comes well after the original posting...but you may remember her as the Army Wife in Courage Under Fire (Denzel Washington's wife). I have no doubt that role helped her land this part.

President Palmer, er, I mean Dennis Haysbert, must really like this show to leave 24, which was incredible last night!




Leaving 24 wasn't his idea...he was P*ssed off that they killed his character.

Ok, so I've caught up with the thread...I actually enjoy this show a great deal. I didn't want to start watching it (I have so many shows I watch already), but given it had Cerrano/Pres. Palmer (You're in good hands with Jobu) and was created by Mamet and the guy from the Shield...I had to give it a shot.

I'm in for the duration....it seems to be doing well in the ratings. Coming on after NCIS (another strong show with good ratings) seems to be working for it.

Ahhhh....Pedro Cerrano.

I remember not being able to get that character out of my head when 24 started. After about a half season of 24 he was Palmer. Forgot all about that 'til now.

Is very bad to touch Joboo's rum.. very bad..

yo bartender!! Joboo needs a refill!

.. ahh jesus.. I like him very much .. but he no help with the curvebakk... are you saying jesus christ can't hit a curveball.

lol.. what a great movie!!

Ahhhh....Pedro Cerrano..... Forgot all about that 'til now.
For some reason I never made that connection. :o Suprising since it was a great movie I have seen many times.

Speaking of relating to movies. I like how that one guy in the Unit started reciting phrases to Private Ryan. Even though I don't recognize the scene I laughed hard.
Stoopid blonde lady.

I started watching The Unit three episodes into the season. I love it!!!! I am usually sitting on the edge of my seat watching it. Please, can anyone tell me what happened in The Stress Episode, with the shooting at Jonas' house? Who and what did he shot?

Thanks!

I started watching The Unit three episodes into the season. I love it!!!! I am usually sitting on the edge of my seat watching it. Please, can anyone tell me what happened in The Stress Episode, with the shooting at Jonas' house? Who and what did he shot?

Thanks!


First post and actually uses the search function to find a thread! Bravo!

If my memory is correct, basically Jonas has a flashback or vision, sees an enemy as himself in a mirror, and fires his weapon into the mirror. Then he sorta snaps out of it.

His wife later tells an investigator that she accidently discharged the gun, and Jonas wasn't involved. The investigator doesn't really buy it, but lets it go and seems to understand.

Thanks Doc!

to add to what DrCrawn said... I think it was the first episode and they just came back from taking back a plane from terrorists - the gist of it was - the terrorist had a code word that was something like "yalla hallan" - Jonas and the crew used it to gain access.. anyway.. when Jonas got home, Molly had gotten a toy monkey that repeated what you said.. so jonas came home and said "yalla halan" to himself and then the toy money repeated it and he shot up the monkey or shot in that direction and hit the mirror.. something like that.

Can someone explain how the Yugoslav general guy that they were after could have possibly known where the secret no-name men that helped capture him were from or where to find them? You knew that it was coming, the whole "you shot my wife" earlier in the episode wasn't exactly subtle, but how on Earth did this escaped international/UN fugitive get into the US, and then even know who he was looking for, much less find them while out for dinner.

I agree jdiehl, the ending last night was stupid. These terrorist come to the US find their base, infiltrate the base with weapons a attack them. Up until then it was a decent episode but that ending stunk.

Can someone explain how the Yugoslav general guy that they were after could have possibly known where the secret no-name men that helped capture him were from or where to find them? You knew that it was coming, the whole "you shot my wife" earlier in the episode wasn't exactly subtle, but how on Earth did this escaped international/UN fugitive get into the US, and then even know who he was looking for, much less find them while out for dinner.

I don't know, I was actually on the edge of my seat for it...saw the whole revenge thing coming a mile away of course, but I couldn't help but wonder if they would kill someone off, and if so who? After all the marital strife and the possible reconciliation with Mac and his cheating wife, I could see them killing her off (thus keeping him with the Unit).

The Unit boys going right into their CQB stances and walking it to the baddies was also very cool. Although you do have to wonder how terrorists who are so resourceful as to escape French custody, sneak into the US, and obtain automatic weapons could somehow NOT foresee the need to obtain silencers for said weapons.

If the terrorists don't telegraph their presence by shooting that poor female server (bad night to be working late), the Unit doesn't react as quickly. And since their wives were directly in the line of fire....OUCH.

Of course, their real mistake was picking the lock to the bar...everyone knows that it is "very bad to steal jobu's rum"... :-)

My wife and I have really enjoyed the series, watching every episode (recorded the pilot on a whim, and immediately added it to the series record list).

But ... I did think the season finale was weak, in a number of different ways. The resolution between Colonel Ryan and Tiffy seemed forced and unnatural, the Bosnian general plot line wasn't as tight as the plot lines usually are, and the terrorists invading the party didn't seem right, either. Specifically, these terrorists have been evading UN forces for years, obviously have combat experience (whether highly trained or not, just the experience counts for a lot), seemed to have the full element of surprise (and where did they get the intel?), and that was the best they could do? Not to discount the competence of the Unit once the shooting started (that seemed realistic - the amount of training put into close quarters firefights is considerable, I assume ... specially since an earlier episode highlighted it). I think I could have done a better job of planning, with absolutely no military / police / terrorist, etc training ... :)

The last episode seemed like a bad dream that one of the members is having ...

Other episodes seemed a little outside of my imagined "mission statement" of the Unit (they seem like David Mamet suspense thrillers that didn't quite make it to the movie stage), but still enjoyable (tight writing, good acting, realistic payoff in the end). In particular "Security" (Iranian embassy listening device planting), and "Unannounced" (Africa visit by US official) aren't quite what I would expect the team to be doing (those episodes seem more like a CIA team show ... or something like the original"Mission Impossible" TV series, long before the current Tom Cruise set of extravaganza movies).

In any case, I'm looking forward to the next season ... maybe the writers had to quickly wrap up some of the season-long plot lines because of various changes they're having to make.

Cliff

I agree the finale was a bit weird. Was the club supposed to be on base or off?

I kinda wondered if they [the writers] were suprised to have gotten to a season end and to also have a hit on their hands....so as a mid-season pickup it just wasn't as polished as it could have been. Just speculating out of my back end.

Do we know for sure that it was picked up for next season?

Yes. The Unit is a clear "hit" and was already renewed and placed on the Fall schedule.

Agree the finale's ending is pretty dumb. I love this show and it is now a must see/record.

yep.. it was picked up.. will still be at 9pm on Tuesday!

Love this show - any Splinter Cell fans here? On the finale, did you get the heebies when the pair scaled the wall and Jonas took out the light? Very cool. I love the sneaking as opposed to the mauling...

Bob is becoming my favorite. And kudos to his wife for her standing up to Star Jones and Blondie. At the beginning of the season, it seemed like Bob+wife were the ones that were the biggest threat, new, unstable, etc. Now, after Star's screwup and Jonas finding out about it (great scene), and Blondie's problem with the colonel, Bob and wife seem normal. "That's what I call irony."

Jonas' wife: "You seem to love poverty"

What Jonas should have said: "It's a damn good thing since you just made us poor"

The whole real estate thing where she lost their money is almost as absurd as the plot arc in "24" about the digital recording, or even these terrorists in the finale being able to find "The Unit" without so much as knowing their names.

I've bought and sold multiple properties (thanks to moving 3x in the past 2yrs), and the last time I checked, they were done at a title company, and earnest money/deposits are made to escrow company's and/or real estate brokerages... NOT the "owner" of the property. Their seed money was only $40k, which means there was a mortgage involved. She's not getting that mortgage without the lender doing an appraisal and she's certainly not going to close on a loan after an accepted offer the previous day.

The scammer's story was that she had to move ASAP and needed to be out of the house and in her new location pronto. Well, that scam doesn't work unless the writers are expecting the viewers to have absolutely zero knowledge of purchasing and/or selling a home. They made it seem as if it was as simple as buying a 10yr old used car where you pay cash and sign over the title on the hood of the car.

I guess you could say that Jonah's wife felt sorry for the woman and gave her the money directly so that she could buy her new home and they'd take care of the paperwork on her old home through the mail? Sorry, not buying that either, she's not some dumb housewife, she's a licensed realtor.

Even throwing out basic logic of real estate transactions and common sense, and even if Jonas' wife paid the crook directly and not to a escrow account.... she did so with a $40k check, not suitcase full of cash. She could have easily stopped payment (even if was certified funds). If it wasn't a check, and she wired the money (even more beyond the realm of stupid, especially for a realtor), she could contact her bank's fraud department and have them investigate immediately and possibly get the receiving bank to freeze those new funds coming in.

Bob and the wife are my favorites on the show, although she seemed a bit whiny when she learned that their trip was actually a mission. You'd think that she'd actually enjoy being able to see her husband work, would love to be involved in the action (something not many Unit wives can say), AND would be excited to know that said trip was on tax payer dollars so that the money she thought they were spending to go there could be used on a vacation the next month.

I think they said it was wired to an off-shore account.

I don't mind that storyline as long as Jonas and the team end up taking some personal time to take care of the situation. I still can't believe she never mentioned to Jonas the threat towards their family - very stupid.

I think they said it was wired to an off-shore account.

IIRC, Molly wired the money to a bank wherever the woman said she was moving to, which was then wired immediately from there to an offshore bank.

I think they said it was wired to an off-shore account.


I don't remember that, and I'm not sure how that would even work since she's getting a mortgage, but even if it was just money direction to the seller (she's not that stupid), wires can be reversed and investigated week's afterwards (doesn't matter that it's off-shore).

I actually had a personal situation where I had some money wired from a European bank (due to selling some shares of stock over there) and because the idiot Frenchman that emailed me the info to cash out my stock forgot to include a few forms, I got a call about a month later from my bank's fraud dept.

After the company learned that they were missing a signature or two, they contacted their bank and flagged it as fraud... which prompted a call from my bank (telling me that the European bank contacted them requesting the money to be wired back), so I had to give them all sorts of paperwork as proof that I requested the transfer and had legal ownership, blah blah blah (which I guess was easier for them than just emailing me the missing forms).

It seems that the current batch of writers these days just take their audience for complete idiots. On pretty much any primetime scripted drama now, we're expected to hospitably suspend our belief in the laws of physics and common sense, but all too often now the writers are not just pushing the envelope and toeing that line, but instead are crashing past it with blantant disregard in the name of a cheap thrill for the audience.

IIRC, Molly wired the money to a bank wherever the woman said she was moving to, which was then wired immediately from there to an offshore bank.

They could wire it to a dozen different banks, but it's still going to leave a paper trail. You don't even need the cops, the banks police this stuff themselves and have huge fraud departments.