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08-07-07, 01:08 PM
Can I use a program I already have in my file designed for a 670 in a 880? My understanding ??? outside the physical presentation of the device it is the same inside.
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View Full Version : Harmony 880 Official Thread. For all info and FAQs BEAR-AvHistory 08-07-07, 01:08 PM Can I use a program I already have in my file designed for a 670 in a 880? My understanding ??? outside the physical presentation of the device it is the same inside. TNDevil 08-07-07, 01:23 PM Pardon the crosspost, but does anyone know where I can get just the USB cable? Thanks! wdkerbow 08-07-07, 01:40 PM Pardon the crosspost, but does anyone know where I can get just the USB cable? Thanks! Best Buy Circuit City CompUSA Office Depot OfficeMax Staples I use the cable that came with my Canon digital camera, it's the same type of cable. blazeblaze 08-07-07, 01:41 PM TNDevil, I believe you need a USB A to mini-B 5pin cable. Like this one found here on Monoprice, but they have several others: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=107&style=&seq=1&format=1#largeimage craig_wagner 08-07-07, 02:09 PM Can I use a program I already have in my file designed for a 670 in a 880? My understanding ??? outside the physical presentation of the device it is the same inside. If you log on to the web site and click "My Remote" at the very top of the screen, it should present you with the remote you have registered to your account. There should be a Replace button next to that remote so you can replace it with a different one. TNDevil 08-07-07, 02:45 PM TNDevil, I believe you need a USB A to mini-B 5pin cable. Like this one found here on Monoprice, but they have several others: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=107&style=&seq=1&format=1#largeimage Can anyone confirm this, just to make sure? Thanks blaze, I appreciate it. I assumed it was something along these lines, I just didn't want to randomly buy cables until I found what I needed. Thanks for the heads up as well, wdkerbow. *EDIT* I have confirmation. Thanks again for all the help! bobssurfin 08-07-07, 03:10 PM Yes. 16 favorites with icons per "Activity" BEAR-AvHistory 08-07-07, 03:34 PM If you log on to the web site and click "My Remote" at the very top of the screen, it should present you with the remote you have registered to your account. There should be a Replace button next to that remote so you can replace it with a different one. Thank you....will give it a shot when the battery is finished charging. BEAR-AvHistory 08-07-07, 05:23 PM That worked fine & the remote is all set-up. When the replacement for my dead 670 comes it will be able to use it in another room on a different system. General question what is the SOP for placing the 880 on the charger? How far do you let it drain down or do you just place it in the charger when its not in use? Read someplace, could be a urban legend, that you want to exercise rechargeable batteries by running them down rather then keep topping them up. strutter 08-07-07, 08:16 PM there was some discussion awhile back about draining it or not. it was split about 50/50 of users that posted said they let it drain down while the other half put it on the charger whenever not in use. i think in the FAQ. section of the web it says you dont have to let it run down. craig_wagner 08-08-07, 10:54 AM Read someplace, could be a urban legend, that you want to exercise rechargeable batteries by running them down rather then keep topping them up. It's not an urban legend, but as with much advice that is technology-related, it is out-dated. The approach of running a battery down to dead or almost dead before recharging was necessary with old technology nickel-cadmium (NiCd) batteries because if you didn't run them down fully they would develop a 'memory effect (http://rechargeablebatteryinfo.com/rechargeable-batteries-memory-effect.php) ' over time. If memory serves, the 880 (and 720) use a Lithium-ion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion) (Li-ion) battery, which does not suffer from the same issue as the NiCd batteries. I tend to put my on the cradle when we go to bed at night because then I know where it is next time I want to use the system. JBaumgart 08-08-07, 07:01 PM I tend to put my on the cradle when we go to bed at night because then I know where it is next time I want to use the system. I've always done the same, and have never had a battery or charging related problem with either of our 880's, both over a year old now. darkwing99 08-08-07, 08:16 PM My experience with the 880 was very dissapointing to say the least. I had a broken 659 which I thought had expired warranty. But anyways, I bought the 880 and didn't like it bcos the buttons were way to small for my fingers and uncomfortable to click to say the least compared to the hard buttons on the 659 and the positioning of the volume and channel rockers was very small and again paced in an uncomfortable position. But I should say though that the wifey loved the 880. In the end, Logitech sent me a replacement 659 and it rocks. ....down with the 880 and its sucky buttons and sucky backlight. Davenlr 08-08-07, 09:19 PM Sorry if this has been answered but I'm without a computer right now and its hard to search on this pda.. I would like to know how to tell the remote when I select the "watch tv" activity, to select the device "satellite" after it completes so I have all the satellite controls on the screen. Also, can you move more often used commands for a device from page 2 and 3 to page 1? Tech support via email always just tells me I can do it, but I don't really think the understand what I am trying to do. sivartk 08-08-07, 10:56 PM Sorry if this has been answered but I'm without a computer right now and its hard to search on this pda.. I would like to know how to tell the remote when I select the "watch tv" activity, to select the device "satellite" after it completes so I have all the satellite controls on the screen. Also, can you move more often used commands for a device from page 2 and 3 to page 1? Tech support via email always just tells me I can do it, but I don't really think the understand what I am trying to do. There is a firefox extension that will let you "move" the soft buttons on the screen, by just clicking a little "up / down" arrow. Easier than redoing the whole set up. Not sure if you can automatically have it access a device mode in an activity. I just put the buttons I would most often use (that aren't already keyed to a hard button) in the softkeys manually (it may do some for you). czzer 08-08-07, 11:35 PM Sorry if this has been answered but I'm without a computer right now and its hard to search on this pda.. I would like to know how to tell the remote when I select the "watch tv" activity, to select the device "satellite" after it completes so I have all the satellite controls on the screen. Also, can you move more often used commands for a device from page 2 and 3 to page 1? Tech support via email always just tells me I can do it, but I don't really think the understand what I am trying to do. The Harmony is an Activity based remote, so you don;t select an individual device after you have entered an activity...it defeats the purpose. Instead, map all the commands as you want them to your "Watch TV" ACTIVITY. Select "Customize" for the "Watch TV" activity, then "Change behaviour of buttons" (the wording might be different now, but you'll find it easily enough). You will then get a screen where you can assign any command to any button you want. Select "Additional commands" for the LCD commands bernie33 08-09-07, 01:48 AM Sorry if this has been answered but I'm without a computer right now and its hard to search on this pda.. I would like to know how to tell the remote when I select the "watch tv" activity, to select the device "satellite" after it completes so I have all the satellite controls on the screen. Also, can you move more often used commands for a device from page 2 and 3 to page 1? Tech support via email always just tells me I can do it, but I don't really think the understand what I am trying to do. Your best bet may be to call tech support and have them walk you through it, or at least get you started. They're very good and pleasant to talk to. To do what you want, and starting from what you've already done, you need to go back into the setip for the activity and near the end of the process there is a screen that says something like, "do you need to make any adjustments" or something like that. That will get you to a screens that let you tailor each page of the activity so you can put your satellite controls on the first page, and you can put any TV controls that you've removed onto subsequent pages. Bernie skroll116 08-09-07, 10:05 AM Am I reading things right that you can not create macros for this remote, but able to program multiple actions? Isn't this the same thing? I just ordered this remote so my wife can hit the DVD button and the receiver will do it's thing, the TV will do it's thing and the DVD player will do it's thing. She can pop in a movie and hit play. When the movie is over she can hit the TV button and everything will happen in reverse. Is this not the case? Kex 08-09-07, 10:16 AM Am I reading things right that you can not create macros for this remote, but able to program multiple actions? Isn't this the same thing? I just ordered this remote so my wife can hit the DVD button and the receiver will do it's thing, the TV will do it's thing and the DVD player will do it's thing. She can pop in a movie and hit play. When the movie is over she can hit the TV button and everything will happen in reverse. Is this not the case? Yes, it is. Harmony macros are handled by the software using a "wizard" type setup process, much like adding devices to a Windows PC. Some DIY remote enthusiasts (and many/most installers) prefer to tailor their own macros step by step (which is reputed to be harder to learn, but easier to modify and control once you know how to use the software). This is why you keep reading "Harmony remotes cannot do macros" or something of that nature. As you guessed, they do exactly that, and they are excellent at it, but the macros are set up "invisible to the user", so you cannot use the software to see exactly how the macro was set up. The end result will be exactly what you want and 99% of users are ecstatic when they first find out how much easier it is to use a Harmony than all their old remotes. Your wife should love it and you more for it (mine certainly does!). SnellKrell 08-09-07, 10:16 AM Yes, it is! Putting aside whether we call them "macros" or "multiple actions," your remote can do the following: Turn on your TV Tune to the correct Input for your DVD Turn on your DVD Open the draw to allow your wife to "pop in" a movie. She then pushes the play button. If you have your DVD's audio connected to an A/V receiver or processor/amp, you also have the option of the remote turning on the receiver or the processor/amp. It's easy! Enjoy! skroll116 08-09-07, 11:00 AM Cool. Thanks guys. Found it cheap on Amazon and could not pass it up. Davio 08-09-07, 05:06 PM Im totally ignorant as to how much these remotes are capable of, so let me throw a few scenarios out there. Sony KDS-50A2000, Yamaha RX-V2700, Xbox360, PS3 and regular cable is the equipment list. Can the harmony 880: 1. With the press of a button "Play Xbox360" turn the TV on, set the TV input to Xbox 360 (I dont have the 360 video going through the receiver), turn the receiver on, change the receiver input, and ultimately put the remote into "reciever" mode so I can adjust audio settings 2. While everything is already set in Xbox 360, I press "Play PS3", which contains the same set of commands including power on for the TV and receiver, only now because the TV and receiver are already powered on, will the harmony still execute the commands or do I have to conditionally tell it that the power is already on? These are the types of things I am confused about. Do you have to program this remote to account for all possible conditions/situations or is it smart enough to skip things it doesnt need (like powering on TV). 3. My TV takes a good 10 seconds to warm up and be ready to change inputs. Does the harmony wait for it before changing the video input? Does it know when the TV is ready to change inputs? blazeblaze 08-09-07, 05:29 PM Im totally ignorant as to how much these remotes are capable of, so let me throw a few scenarios out there. Sony KDS-50A2000, Yamaha RX-V2700, Xbox360, PS3 and regular cable is the equipment list. Can the harmony 880: 1. With the press of a button "Play Xbox360" turn the TV on, set the TV input to Xbox 360 (I dont have the 360 video going through the receiver), turn the receiver on, change the receiver input, and ultimately put the remote into "reciever" mode so I can adjust audio settings 2. While everything is already set in Xbox 360, I press "Play PS3", which contains the same set of commands including power on for the TV and receiver, only now because the TV and receiver are already powered on, will the harmony still execute the commands or do I have to conditionally tell it that the power is already on? These are the types of things I am confused about. Do you have to program this remote to account for all possible conditions/situations or is it smart enough to skip things it doesnt need (like powering on TV). 3. My TV takes a good 10 seconds to warm up and be ready to change inputs. Does the harmony wait for it before changing the video input? Does it know when the TV is ready to change inputs? 1. I have the same setup at my home and it works great (Xbox 360 video directly connected to the TV via HDMI, and digital audio going to the receiver). This is an activity based remote, so you will not want to put the remote into "receiver mode" (on the harmony remotes, this is called "Device Mode")...but you would want an activity that named something like "Play Xbox 360". The appropriate keys are usually mapped by default for all the devices from the questions the setup wizard asks you, such as the receiver audio would be mapped to the physical Volume UP/DOWN buttons....but you can tweak it further if need be. 2. You would be switching to another activity named something like "Play PS3". In this case, if you were hopping right from playing the Xbox 360 activity....it would be smart enough to skip the commands that are unneeded (such as turning on your TV and receiver, since they are already on). 3. If the startup delay is not already correct in the Harmony database for your specific TV model, you can change the timing yourself in the configuration. Davio 08-09-07, 08:59 PM 1. I have the same setup at my home and it works great (Xbox 360 video directly connected to the TV via HDMI, and digital audio going to the receiver). This is an activity based remote, so you will not want to put the remote into "receiver mode" (on the harmony remotes, this is called "Device Mode")...but you would want an activity that named something like "Play Xbox 360". The appropriate keys are usually mapped by default for all the devices from the questions the setup wizard asks you, such as the receiver audio would be mapped to the physical Volume UP/DOWN buttons....but you can tweak it further if need be. 2. You would be switching to another activity named something like "Play PS3". In this case, if you were hopping right from playing the Xbox 360 activity....it would be smart enough to skip the commands that are unneeded (such as turning on your TV and receiver, since they are already on). 3. If the startup delay is not already correct in the Harmony database for your specific TV model, you can change the timing yourself in the configuration. Wow, thanks for your response. Sounds like this thing does it all, and Im going to purchase one!! One other question though, you mention not to put the remote in "receiver mode"....I guess that would be fine, but can you switch it to receiver mode if for example I want to start playing with the various sound fields that come with my receiver? What if instead of straight Dolby Digital I want to switch it to one of the special movie effects? Is it easy to switch the remote into receiver mode then back to its activity mode? Im excited as it sounds like this is much more capable than I thought my receiver's universal remote is. JBaumgart 08-09-07, 11:47 PM Wow, thanks for your response. Sounds like this thing does it all, and Im going to purchase one!! One other question though, you mention not to put the remote in "receiver mode"....I guess that would be fine, but can you switch it to receiver mode if for example I want to start playing with the various sound fields that come with my receiver? What if instead of straight Dolby Digital I want to switch it to one of the special movie effects? Is it easy to switch the remote into receiver mode then back to its activity mode? Im excited as it sounds like this is much more capable than I thought my receiver's universal remote is. All you should need to do is press the "Device" button once, which will give you access to all of the special sound options your receiver offers. To get back to the Activity mode, you would just press the Device button again. tokerblue 08-10-07, 12:34 AM for example I want to start playing with the various sound fields that come with my receiver? What if instead of straight Dolby Digital I want to switch it to one of the special movie effects? Is it easy to switch the remote into receiver mode then back to its activity mode? As JBaumgart mentioned, once you go into Device mode, the Harmony stops becoming a mixed remote and acts like the original device remote again. If you think you need to access the DSP modes in your receiver, you can simply add them to the LCD screen for that particular Activity. There isn't really practical limit to how many pages of soft LCD commands you can create. craig_wagner 08-10-07, 01:15 AM Sony KDS-50A2000, Yamaha RX-V2700, Xbox360, PS3 and regular cable is the equipment list. There is one thing that no current remote that I know of will do, and that is control the PS3. The PS3's remote is Bluetooth, not IR. You will have to purchase an adapter. More information can be found in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869715). Davio 08-10-07, 06:41 AM There is one thing that no current remote that I know of will do, and that is control the PS3. The PS3's remote is Bluetooth, not IR. You will have to purchase an adapter. More information can be found in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869715). Yeah I was aware of that, at this point Id be okay with just setting up the PS3 inputs and audio, then controlling the PS3 with the controller. I still dont have the Blu-ray remote yet...I might consider that adapter though if I do get the remote. Thanks! Davenlr 08-10-07, 09:55 PM Thanks guys. I wasn't aware I could change all the buttons it picked when I set up the "watch tv" activity. Have now got it set, and just need to fine tune a few. Makes it so much easier than switching between 4 devices with the device button... yoshinoja 08-11-07, 03:18 PM Thanks for the link Eric! So no one out there who can help with configuring 880 with Dish Network DVR 522? Sorry not sure which one is the 522, buy I use my 880 with two different Dish Network Boxes. You can use one of Harmony programmed codes that is close to that number then individually program the keys that don't work from your existing 522 remote. The other thing to do is look under Echo Star listings. heinz256 08-11-07, 04:17 PM Hi there, I have a sammy ln-t4665f tv and I'm having trouble getting it to set to the right input. I have a bell expressvu satellite box connected via cable input. Whenever i want to watch TV, I would press the "watch tv button" and everything would work except that when it lands on the tv source input, the tv would only show a static screen. I would have to go through the 880 list and press "InputAB" to make it show correctly. Does anyone know what the problem is here? Thanks. LastButNotLeast 08-11-07, 05:27 PM All you should need to do is press the "Device" button once, which will give you access to all of the special sound options your receiver offers. To get back to the Activity mode, you would just press the Device button again. Or, as I've done, assign the task to an otherwise unused button (how about +/clear or E/enter) and it will cycle through the options (Pioneer VSX-D711). tigerkn 08-11-07, 09:17 PM Anyone know how to set up so that when I pick Listen to CD or Watch DVD my DVD player would automatically eject the tray? Thanks in advance!!! Kev. tigerkn 08-11-07, 09:24 PM I am trying to get the 880 to control my ceiling fan, the ceiling fan does not come with a remote. Have anyone try this yet?????? Please show me how. Thanks... Kev. LastButNotLeast 08-11-07, 11:12 PM Anyone know how to set up so that when I pick Listen to CD or Watch DVD my DVD player would automatically eject the tray? Thanks in advance!!! Kev. Devices -> (select DVD player, obviously) -> settings -> advanced setup -> "Which command turns your device on and off?" select "my device needs more than one command." Select "eject" from the available options menu. Done/done/done.... Save to remote. Enjoy. LastButNotLeast 08-11-07, 11:16 PM I am trying to get the 880 to control my ceiling fan, the ceiling fan does not come with a remote. Have anyone try this yet?????? Please show me how. Thanks... Kev. Need model of fan if anyone is going to be able to help. Fan, of course, needs to be IR controllable. I'd like my Harmony to start my car, too. :D tigerkn 08-12-07, 03:32 AM Thanks LBNL for helping!!!!!!!! I think you pointed me to the right spot for the setup, BUT I am still strugle with it a little b/c the DVD does not Eject when I turn on the Activity but only Eject when I turn it off and worst the DVD stay ON with the tray open. I will keep trying to play with the setting, mean while if you know why it did this then please let me know. Thanks again for your help!!! Kev. Devices -> (select DVD player, obviously) -> settings -> advanced setup -> "Which command turns your device on and off?" select "my device needs more than one command." Select "eject" from the available options menu. Done/done/done.... Save to remote. Enjoy. LastButNotLeast 08-12-07, 11:35 AM I think you pointed me to the right spot for the setup, BUT I am still strugle with it a little b/c the DVD does not Eject when I turn on the Activity but only Eject when I turn it off and worst the DVD stay ON with the tray open. One more step. Device setup -> on/off? "A button on the remote for On, and a different button for Off" -> "My device needs more than one command...." This way you can have it do one thing when it goes on and another when it goes off. I use this with my receiver to mute the volume when I turn it off. BTW, I use the down arrow key as an eject button (and the up for skip), in case you haven't thought of that as a simple solution. Michael Weaselboy 08-12-07, 01:51 PM I am trying to get the 880 to control my ceiling fan, the ceiling fan does not come with a remote. Have anyone try this yet?????? Please show me how. Thanks... Kev. Most ceiling fans use RF remotes, which are not supported by the 880. craig_wagner 08-12-07, 02:20 PM Anyone know how to set up so that when I pick Listen to CD or Watch DVD my DVD player would automatically eject the tray? The technique that LastButNotLeast gave will work, but I would be inclined to tie what you want to do to the activity rather than to the device's power settings. The following instructions are based on the web interface. 1. Click Customize next to the activity you want to change. 2. Click "Run the Setup Wizard Again" 3. Walk through the Wizard hitting Next until you get to the end. 4. Select the "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity" radio button. 6. Click Save 7. Walk through the Wizard again 8. Add the action you want to the end of the preset actions. The desktop software makes the process a little less painful, but I tend to give instructions based on the web-based stuff because that's what most people seem to use. tigerkn 08-12-07, 03:12 PM I tried the "A button on the remote for On, and a different button for Off" and it still does not Eject when I turn on the Activity but good thing is it no longer Eject when I turn it off. I have been using the E (Enter) button to Eject the DVD try, but still trying to incorporate it with the turn on Activity. One more step. Device setup -> on/off? "A button on the remote for On, and a different button for Off" -> "My device needs more than one command...." This way you can have it do one thing when it goes on and another when it goes off. I use this with my receiver to mute the volume when I turn it off. BTW, I use the down arrow key as an eject button (and the up for skip), in case you haven't thought of that as a simple solution. Michael tigerkn 08-12-07, 03:14 PM I tried the walk through the Wizard again, but there was no option to just add a Eject option. The technique that LastButNotLeast gave will work, but I would be inclined to tie what you want to do to the activity rather than to the device's power settings. The following instructions are based on the web interface. 1. Click Customize next to the activity you want to change. 2. Click "Run the Setup Wizard Again" 3. Walk through the Wizard hitting Next until you get to the end. 4. Select the "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity" radio button. 6. Click Save 7. Walk through the Wizard again 8. Add the action you want to the end of the preset actions. The desktop software makes the process a little less painful, but I tend to give instructions based on the web-based stuff because that's what most people seem to use. LastButNotLeast 08-12-07, 08:32 PM I tried the "A button on the remote for On, and a different button for Off" and it still does not Eject when I turn on the Activity but good thing is it no longer Eject when I turn it off. I have been using the E (Enter) button to Eject the DVD try, but still trying to incorporate it with the turn on Activity. It won't eject unless you tell it to: After you select "My device needs more than one command to turn it on and off," two more boxes appear below "I don't have the original remote, but I know the commands that are used." You want to change the second one from "none" to "eject." The advantage of building it into the device is that it works for each activity; Play DVD, Play CD, whatever. Unfortunately, if your device automatically closes the door when it turns off, you're out of luck - or you have to work fast! :) craig_wagner 08-12-07, 09:33 PM I tried the walk through the Wizard again, but there was no option to just add a Eject option. Just so I understand what you're saying... You got to step 8 (which looks like the screenshot attached). You selected the DVD player from the list of devices (next to the label that says "Add action for"). You clicked Add. You selected the "Send this infrared Command" radio button. When you looked at the list of available infrared commands, Eject wasn't there. You'll need to teach the Harmony the Eject command from your existing remote and it'll show up in the list. Davio 08-12-07, 10:05 PM Does anyone know why Amazon has the Harmony 880 for so much cheaper than regular retailers? I dont know much about Logitechs warranty/return policies but Im wondering if you dont get any customer support if ordered through Amazon? Im considering picking up a Harmony soon and don't understand why it would be worth paying more at a store unless (Like Yamaha receivers) Logitech somehow doesnt recognize AMazon as an authorized dealer. TheMoose 08-12-07, 10:18 PM I bought both my 880's from Amazon & have had no problems with CS. supasexyp 08-12-07, 11:43 PM I have dual wall switch, one for the light and one for the fan. I purchase a Lutron Maestro IR MIR-600THW for my lights but I am looking for something similar with IR or RF for my fan. Does anyone know of a wall switch for fans? bernie33 08-13-07, 01:23 AM I have dual wall switch, one for the light and one for the fan. I purchase a Lutron Maestro IR MIR-600THW for my lights but I am looking for something similar with IR or RF for my fan. Does anyone know of a wall switch for fans? Sure. I got a wireless (RF) remote for a ceiling fan and light. It allows the fan to be turned off or adjusted to three speeds. For the light it acts as a dimmer/off control (actually I'd prefer it if the light just went on or off in this room but the dimmer function is acceptable). I had to install a small receiver in the ceiling fan/lamp housing. Got it at Home Depot or Expo or Lowe's. Bernie supasexyp 08-13-07, 11:24 AM So the difference between using the one for the light and the one for the fan is the fan has to have a receiver? bernie33 08-13-07, 02:05 PM So the difference between using the one for the light and the one for the fan is the fan has to have a receiver? No, a receiver is needed for any device. The controller I bought has an RF receiver that mounts in the shield where the fan/light rod hangs from the ceiling. It gets connected to the wiring for the fan and the light. The remote has one button that controls the light, taking it from dim through bright. A quick push on that button turns the light off. There are two more buttons on the remote. One controls the speed, cycling between high, medium and slow. The other button turns the fan off. The remote and receiver are sold as a package and also come with a wall switch face plate. You can remove the existing wall switch faceplate and replace it with the new one which include a hook for the remote. When the remote is hanging there is covers the actual wall switch. If the remote isn't covering it you can still turn off power to the fan/light completely which we do when we leave town. jw1 08-17-07, 08:37 AM how do i know if a device uses rf or ir? i'm considering the 880 and want to be able to control my minka concept ceiling fan and bionaire air purifier as well as my a/v equipment. does anyone know if these are ir or rf. Weaselboy 08-17-07, 10:24 AM how do i know if a device uses rf or ir? i'm considering the 880 and want to be able to control my minka concept ceiling fan and bionaire air purifier as well as my a/v equipment. does anyone know if these are ir or rf. No.... but it should be easy to tell. Block the path between the device and the remote and if it stops working it is IR. mx6bfast 08-17-07, 10:24 AM 880 is ir. It usually says it on the box or on the website. mx6bfast 08-17-07, 11:04 AM I think you meant IR! Only the (very similar) 890 and 1000 are IR & RF in the current Harmony range. My bad. I meant to say IR. Post is fixed. bernie33 08-17-07, 01:08 PM how do i know if a device uses rf or ir? i'm considering the 880 and want to be able to control my minka concept ceiling fan and bionaire air purifier as well as my a/v equipment. does anyone know if these are ir or rf. If you must point one end of your remote at the device for the remote to work then it is infrared. Ceiling fans are typically RF (radio frequency) devices. If your remote is IR their will be some sort of small glass-like bead at the front-end of the remote where the IR is projected from. As someone else suggested, if you cover that and try the remote you'll verify that is what you are seeing. An RF remote won't have any such thing. AN RF remote is likely to have an FCC id on the back of the remote. Your instruction manuals probably also tell you if you still have them. jw1 08-17-07, 02:57 PM yup. looks like the ceiling fan is rf. i guess that means another $100 for th 890. : / skroll116 08-17-07, 03:42 PM Have spent about a week now with my new 880. So far so good, but today I reconfigured how I watch TV. I used to have an HDMI cable connected from my HR-20 to my V2500. I had the HR-20 change channels and the TV control audio. I now have an HDMI connected the same way for Video, but added an Optical cable to the receiver for audio. I re-configured the activity on my computer to have the receiver control audio and updated the remote. I try to change audio and the TV volume changes. If I select the receiver as the device it works, but not in the activity. Any suggestions? craig_wagner 08-17-07, 04:29 PM yup. looks like the ceiling fan is rf. i guess that means another $100 for th 890. : / From everything I've read, any RF remote will only communicate with its own RF receiver. In other words, the RF signals that the 890 sends won't be recognized by your ceiling fan anyway. bernie33 08-17-07, 04:46 PM Have spent about a week now with my new 880. So far so good, but today I reconfigured how I watch TV. I used to have an HDMI cable connected from my HR-20 to my V2500. I had the HR-20 change channels and the TV control audio. I now have an HDMI connected the same way for Video, but added an Optical cable to the receiver for audio. I re-configured the activity on my computer to have the receiver control audio and updated the remote. I try to change audio and the TV volume changes. If I select the receiver as the device it works, but not in the activity. Any suggestions? The activity you are using to watch TV via your satellite box has not been (properly) updated to control the volume via your audio system. Your TV activity must say that it uses all three devices: TV, satellite tuner, and audio receiver. The Harmony software will ask you which device controls the volume and you'll have to tell it that your receiver controls the volume. At the end of the setup process it will update your Harmony and you should find things operating the way you want. jw1 08-17-07, 05:15 PM From everything I've read, any RF remote will only communicate with its own RF receiver. In other words, the RF signals that the 890 sends won't be recognized by your ceiling fan anyway. i don't quite understand. why does the 890 have rf if it's remote specific? bernie33 08-17-07, 05:41 PM i don't quite understand. why does the 890 have rf if it's remote specific? Two reasons. For people that want their IR controlled equipment to be hidden from view, the 890 has "IR extenders" to control the hidden equipment. They are small IR devices that are hidden along with the equipment. The "IR extenders" are radio controlled by the 890. The second reason, which is more applicable to your situation, is that for z-wave rf devices, the 890 can learn to control them. If your devices conform to the z-wave specification the manuals will say so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave Just like a garage door opener, not every remote will control every door, and even among the same styles, they are programmed so that your garage door opener won't open your neighbors garage. Bernie [omen] 08-18-07, 05:11 PM Should I get an 880? I'm pretty sure I want to go with the Harmony 880, but I have a few concerns. First off, this seems to be the most popular remote on the planet. Every HTGuys podcast I listen to Ara and Braden are raving about it. They've drummed it into my head good. And the thread here has gotten about a million views. But can it do everything I want? Namely, I get the whole Activities thing, but I want to make sure that if I'm in a certain Activity, like "Watch TV" for instance, that I could CHANGE a certain device setting, like change my receiver input to Computer and listen to music while the TV show I'm watching continues to play on. Or, if I'm playing a Halo 2 Multiplayer on my xbox and want to change the TV input to watch TV for a minute while my next game loads. Can the 880 do that sort of thing? Seems pretty basic. Can it work with a Mac? I've read some user reviews on Remote Central that alluded to some bugginess in this regard. Has it gotten better? My cable remote (for a SA 8300) has a "FAV" button (for surfing through your "Favorite" channels) and I use this thing all the time. Can you program that button to the 880? I know the 880 doesn't have a dedicated "Favorite" button, but can you choose which button it would get mapped to? I don't want it mapped somewhere nonsensical like the "EXIT" button or something. Furthermore, has the customer service gotten better? It seemed like everyone complained about it early on and that the number of complaints have diminished. Anyway, thanks guys. :) bweissman 08-18-07, 05:33 PM Yes, you can change device settings while in an activity. But you do so with the understanding that the 880 no longer knows what the settings are because settings are not remembered in device mode. The Harmony Way of doing what you want would be to create another activity called "Listen to Computer while watching TV". (Or you can put the input switching commands onto soft buttons within your activities.) The 880 does have a dedicated "Favorites" button, but it's labeled "Media" and doesn't do what you expect. It's a "local" favorites chooser, meaning the favorites are set on the 880 as opposed to on your cable box. You can assign one of the 880's soft keys to be Favorites on your cable box and label it however you want. I personally use the Media button for this. I can't answer about Macs or Logitech customer service. bernie33 08-18-07, 06:52 PM ;11341306']Should I get an 880? I'm pretty sure I want to go with the Harmony 880, but I have a few concerns. First off, this seems to be the most popular remote on the planet. Every HTGuys podcast I listen to Ara and Braden are raving about it. They've drummed it into my head good. And the thread here has gotten about a million views. That is because, for most people, and especially their families, it is terrific. But can it do everything I want? Namely, I get the whole Activities thing, but I want to make sure that if I'm in a certain Activity, like "Watch TV" for instance, that I could CHANGE a certain device setting, like change my receiver input to Computer and listen to music while the TV show I'm watching continues to play on. Or, if I'm playing a Halo 2 Multiplayer on my xbox and want to change the TV input to watch TV for a minute while my next game loads. Can the 880 do that sort of thing? Seems pretty basic. Yes, easily. Can it work with a Mac? I've read some user reviews on Remote Central that alluded to some bugginess in this regard. Has it gotten better? Yes: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/372&cl=us,en My cable remote (for a SA 8300) has a "FAV" button (for surfing through your "Favorite" channels) and I use this thing all the time. Can you program that button to the 880? I know the 880 doesn't have a dedicated "Favorite" button, but can you choose which button it would get mapped to? I don't want it mapped somewhere nonsensical like the "EXIT" button or something. Map it wherever you want. I have it mapped to a softkey on the first screen for our most common activity (watch DVR) and also for our watch TV activity. I also use the Media key on the remote and have loaded it with icons for our favorite stations. We virtually never use the Fav function of the DVR now. We use the Media function of the 880 instead. Furthermore, has the customer service gotten better? It seemed like everyone complained about it early on and that the number of complaints have diminished. I don't know when it was bad, but for the years that members of our family and friends have had Harmony's the customer support is outstanding. My own experience since getting one less than a year ago has verified that and they are an example of what other companies should do. [omen] 08-18-07, 07:45 PM Awesome. Thanks for the feedback, guys. I really appreciate it. That Media button sounds interesting. I'm going to have to check that out. Yes, you can change device settings while in an activity. But you do so with the understanding that the 880 no longer knows what the settings are because settings are not remembered in device mode. The Harmony Way of doing what you want would be to create another activity called "Listen to Computer while watching TV". (Or you can put the input switching commands onto soft buttons within your activities.) So, if I do something like this and switch an input on my AVR when in the "Watch TV" Activity, for example, the Harmony essentially forgets that I was in the "Watch TV" Activity, right? As far as it's concerned, I'm just in Device mode, right? Well, from that point, could I select another Activity, like "Play Xbox?" Or, even better, could I re-select "Watch TV" again - essentially, undoing the input change I made? Or, would that just confuse the hell out of the Harmony? If I can just go and select another (or the previous) Activity after switching over to Device mode for a moment then that sounds like it would work fine. chris0 08-18-07, 07:55 PM ;11342383']Well, from that point, could I select another Activity, like "Play Xbox?" Or, even better, could I re-select "Watch TV" again - essentially, undoing the input change I made? yup to both ;11342383']Or, would that just confuse the hell out of the Harmony? nope From what I read of what you want the 880 to do, it will do exactly that perfectly. And more.:) bernie33 08-18-07, 09:02 PM ;11342383']Awesome. Thanks for the feedback, guys. I really appreciate it. That Media button sounds interesting. I'm going to have to check that out. So, if I do something like this and switch an input on my AVR when in the "Watch TV" Activity, for example, the Harmony essentially forgets that I was in the "Watch TV" Activity, right? As far as it's concerned, I'm just in Device mode, right? Well, from that point, could I select another Activity, like "Play Xbox?" Or, even better, could I re-select "Watch TV" again - essentially, undoing the input change I made? Or, would that just confuse the hell out of the Harmony? If I can just go and select another (or the previous) Activity after switching over to Device mode for a moment then that sounds like it would work fine. The other thing we haven't mentioned is the Help button on the Harmony. It is the great feature that lets your famliy use all of your equipment pretty much no matter what. If things get out of sync for some reason -- like someone poshing a button on a device to change things instead of using the Harmony -- you just push the Help button and the Harmony displays a series of yes/no questions and adjusts things until everything is back in sync again and working las desired. Bernie bweissman 08-19-07, 03:48 PM ;11342383']So, if I do something like this and switch an input on my AVR when in the "Watch TV" Activity, for example, the Harmony essentially forgets that I was in the "Watch TV" Activity, right? As far as it's concerned, I'm just in Device mode, right?You're in device mode until you go back to your activity. Pressing Activity twice will return the 880 to the most recent activity. But it won't switch your input back. Well, from that point, could I select another Activity, like "Play Xbox?" Or, even better, could I re-select "Watch TV" again - essentially, undoing the input change I made?Yes. And if you do select "Watch TV", it will switch your input back. If I can just go and select another (or the previous) Activity after switching over to Device mode for a moment then that sounds like it would work fine.Yep. So I think we've made your decision for you. Go get it! :) gte747e 08-19-07, 04:01 PM My setup: TV, receiver, HR20, Panamax 5100-PM (powercenter), PS3, old 5-disc CD changer. I'm waiting on my 880 to arrive, but I have a couple of questions. I know that there are various IR solutions for the PS3, but I don't have the dongle, etc., so I am planning on having the 880 turn on the PS3 and use the PS3 remote from there. 1. I will use the PS3 as my primary CD player because it is newer, digital, and higher Hz. What is the best way for me to setup my remote so that I can choose which CD player to use? Should I simply do "Play a CD" be my changer and "Play PS3" for the PS3 (whether a game or CD)? Or should I separate Play PS3 (Game) from Play CD on PS3? 2. I have a Klipsch sub RW-10d with IR control. Can this be controlled with the 880? 3. How does the 880 affect 12v triggers on my CD player, Denon 3808CI receiver, and my Panamax 5100-PM powercenter? All 3 of these have trigger outs, and I am just wondering how I should set that up. Does 880 setup ask how things are plugged in (electrically)? In other words, should I plug the CD changer into my Denon receiver or to the CD outlet on my Powercenter? [omen] 08-19-07, 04:20 PM So I think we've made your decision for you. Go get it! :) Bernie33, bweissman, and chris0 - you guys all rock. Thanks for answering all my questions. Looks like I'm heading over to the HTguys store to place an order! :D joe221 08-19-07, 04:37 PM ;11348049']Bernie33, bweissman, and chris0 - you guys all rock. Thanks for answering all my questions. Looks like I'm heading over to the HTguys store to place an order! :D Good job! Word of advice, keep watching the HT Guys "store" as the 880 has been all over the map, pricewise, in the past few weeks. There might be a good opportunity for a price adjustment. Enjoy! chris0 08-19-07, 06:23 PM ;11348049']Bernie33, bweissman, and chris0 - you guys all rock. Thanks for answering all my questions. Looks like I'm heading over to the HTguys store to place an order! :D Glad I could help. I don't know about HTguys pricing, but Amazon has it for almost 1/2 of MSRP. Let us know if you need help tweaking it once you get it. chris0 08-19-07, 06:37 PM ...so I am planning on having the 880 turn on the PS3 and use the PS3 remote from there. Too bad you don't want it the other way around. The only remote that can turn on the PS3 is the one from Sony, dongle or no dongle. ...Should I simply do "Play a CD" be my changer and "Play PS3" for the PS3 (whether a game or CD)? Or should I separate Play PS3 (Game) from Play CD on PS3? That's completely up to you, any of those will work. I use my PS3 for gaming and BR/DVD movies. Since the settings on my receiver and TV are the same for both I just made one Activity and called it "PS3/Blu Ray." You can separate them if you want, though. ...I have a Klipsch sub RW-10d with IR control. Can this be controlled with the 880? If it's not already in the Harmony database you can teach the commands to the Harmony remote. They have over 175,000 components in the database so odds are your SW is already in there. ...How does the 880 affect 12v triggers on my CD player, Denon 3808CI receiver, and my Panamax 5100-PM powercenter? All 3 of these have trigger outs, and I am just wondering how I should set that up. Does 880 setup ask how things are plugged in (electrically)? In other words, should I plug the CD changer into my Denon receiver or to the CD outlet on my Powercenter? I don't remember if the setup software asks how things are plugged in, but you can tell it to always leave the CD player on. That way it won't ever send an ON/OFF signal to it and it'll power up/down with your receiver. joe221 08-19-07, 06:53 PM Glad I could help. I don't know about HTguys pricing, but Amazon has it for almost 1/2 of MSRP. Let us know if you need help tweaking it once you get it. Same thing, actually. ;):cool: [Post #2000!] gte747e 08-19-07, 09:51 PM Too bad you don't want it the other way around. The only remote that can turn on the PS3 is the one from Sony, dongle or no dongle. Thanks for your help (on all my questions). I realized after I typed that....I had it backwards. I will use the Sony PS3 remote to turn it on/off, and use the 880 for all the other commands. chris0 08-19-07, 11:21 PM you're welcome. joe221 08-21-07, 05:54 PM Good job! Word of advice, keep watching the HT Guys "store" as the 880 has been all over the map, pricewise, in the past few weeks. There might be a good opportunity for a price adjustment. Enjoy! Omen, remember what I said before...TODAY would be that day! ;) hola0204 09-01-07, 11:30 AM Hey guys I just got my 880 yesterday, I just wondering has anyone try to use 880 to control PUREAV PF31D power conditioner. I tried to add this device into my 880 but I can not find it. Since there is no remote control for my PF31D, I assume there may be no RF receiver for PF31D? SnellKrell 09-01-07, 11:43 AM RF? The 880 operates IR devices, only! The 890 can control RF. craig_wagner 09-01-07, 11:48 AM The 880 operates IR devices, only! The 890 can control RF. And even at that it will only send RF signals that its own base station will recognize. It can't control just any RF device. Unless it's Zwave, and even then it's not a certainty, at least as I understand it. bernie33 09-01-07, 12:27 PM Hey guys I just got my 880 yesterday, I just wondering has anyone try to use 880 to control PUREAV PF31D power conditioner. I tried to add this device into my 880 but I can not find it. Since there is no remote control for my PF31D, I assume there may be no RF receiver for PF31D? There is no remote because the device cannot be controlled by a remote. There doesn't seem to be anything to control manually either. hola0204 09-01-07, 01:03 PM There is no remote because the device cannot be controlled by a remote. There doesn't seem to be anything to control manually either. thanks for the reply, that's what I thought because there is no remote for this device. Well, seems like I have to control PF31 by myself joe221 09-01-07, 01:50 PM thanks for the reply, that's what I thought because there is no remote for this device. Well, seems like I have to control PF31 by myself Just to be clear for others too. A universal type remote, like the 880/890 etc can only control a device that originally had a remote to begin with. Thus, your toaster, blender and other such devices can't be controlled by a universal remote. You may want to look into X-10 http://www.x10.com as a controlling option as it goes between the uncontrolled device and the wall plug. It then can turn the item on and off and in the case of lights, dim them. chris0 09-01-07, 02:30 PM Just to be clear for others too. A universal type remote, like the 880/890 etc can only control a device that originally had a remote to begin with... So that's why it doesn't work with my cat. Good to know. Kex 09-01-07, 03:11 PM So that's why it doesn't work with my cat. Good to know. My wife is always pointing the remote at me and pressing the "mute" button, but I have never felt that this generated any impediment to further prolonged speech on my part either. Must be for the same reason. Maybe you need an RTI or Crestron for that to work? gte747e 09-01-07, 09:34 PM I have an old CD changer that won't work with my Harmony. My old receiver had an IR sensor on it and I assume that all the remote functions came via the receiver. If I hooked up the 12V trigger between my CD changer and my new Denon 3808 receiver, will it then accept basic CD commands from my remote? Or is a 12V trigger for on/off only? Thanks. P.S. There are some barbecue grills that use IR technology to cook...so maybe there is hope for universal remotes and appliances! LOL joe221 09-01-07, 10:17 PM So that's why it doesn't work with my cat. Good to know. EXACTLY! and dogs neither! ;):p alnsusan 09-02-07, 10:01 AM 1) where did you find it for $113. 2) I have Scientific America DVR. The remote uses A, B, C buttons and a seperate button for selecting recorded programs. Would this remote accomodate this? bryansj 09-02-07, 10:21 AM Just to be clear for others too. A universal type remote, like the 880/890 etc can only control a device that originally had a remote to begin with. Thus, your toaster, blender and other such devices can't be controlled by a universal remote. You may want to look into X-10 http://www.x10.com as a controlling option as it goes between the uncontrolled device and the wall plug. It then can turn the item on and off and in the case of lights, dim them. Does Logitech have the commands in the database for the remote control used in the movie Click or was that an RF remote? Thanks. sjv 09-02-07, 10:41 AM 1) where did you find it for $113. 2) I have Scientific America DVR. The remote uses A, B, C buttons and a seperate button for selecting recorded programs. Would this remote accomodate this? Scientific America DVR??????? What's that? :confused: SnellKrell 09-02-07, 10:50 AM Scientific America DVR??????? What's that? :confused: I'm sure he meant Scientific Atlanta! joe221 09-02-07, 10:52 AM Scientific America DVR??????? What's that? :confused: They're branching out from Georgia!! It's all new, it can now work in the other 49 states! :D rettenhu 09-02-07, 12:05 PM Scientific America DVR??????? What's that? :confused: Yes, it supports and controls Scientific Atlanta DVRs... Weaselboy 09-02-07, 12:09 PM They're branching out from Georgia!! It's all new, it can now work in the other 49 states! :D Yes... such as... the US of America. :) Mwwilliams 09-02-07, 02:31 PM nope.. :( that plugin was designed by a guy over at remote control forum. it only works with firefox. How do you access the plug in once installed? strutter 09-02-07, 03:34 PM Quote: Originally Posted by strutter nope.. that plugin was designed by a guy over at remote control forum. it only works with firefox. How do you access the plug in once installed? cant help you there. i don't use firefox or the plug in. i do however seem to remember reading about it having a functionality issue after logitech changed the user interface. i don't know if that poster at rcforum ever reworked the plugin. perhaps someone who uses it can chime in and help or maybe you should go to the rcforum and question them. heres the link to the harmony section. http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-harmony/list.cgi sivartk 09-03-07, 12:12 AM How do you access the plug in once installed? Simply go to the harmony remote website and log in, if you use the web-based configuration tool (not the icon on the desktop) and firefox it will load automatically. No need to do anything. You'll see some arrows on the screens where you adjust the soft keys. Clicking the arrows moves the row up / down. SirDracula 09-05-07, 12:21 AM Is there a way to have an "All OFF" activity without first powering on all the devices? Sometimes when others in the house operate the remote some of the devices are still left on. I was thinking of having an activity "All OFF" that sends a discrete OFF code to all of the devices regardless of what state they are in (not the power toggle code, just discrete OFF, so if the device is already OFF it doesn't do anything). Trouble is that even for a Utility activity, when selecting which devices to use, the Harmony will try to turn them all ON first which is not what I want. So is there a way to have a master OFF button that does just that, nothing more? I've seen other universal remotes that are able to do so. thanks. bernie33 09-05-07, 12:50 AM Is there a way to have an "All OFF" activity without first powering on all the devices? Sometimes when others in the house operate the remote some of the devices are still left on. I was thinking of having an activity "All OFF" that sends a discrete OFF code to all of the devices regardless of what state they are in (not the power toggle code, just discrete OFF, so if the device is already OFF it doesn't do anything). Trouble is that even for a Utility activity, when selecting which devices to use, the Harmony will try to turn them all ON first which is not what I want. So is there a way to have a master OFF button that does just that, nothing more? I've seen other universal remotes that are able to do so. thanks. You can do that IF your devices all actually have an Off function rather than just a toggle. In my case all of my devices, TV, receiver, DVR, VCR are toggles so it would be impossible for me. SirDracula 09-05-07, 02:04 AM No, it doesn't work even though all my devices have an OFF command (not toggle). The problem is that by having an activity that uses all the devices, the Harmony will automatically turn all of them ON first and I cannot remove that part from the activity. XtraXpecial 09-05-07, 02:16 AM Does anyone know how the 890 handles 3 zones? i have the denon avr4308ci.. czzer 09-05-07, 04:32 AM Is there a way to have an "All OFF" activity without first powering on all the devices? Sometimes when others in the house operate the remote some of the devices are still left on. I was thinking of having an activity "All OFF" that sends a discrete OFF code to all of the devices regardless of what state they are in (not the power toggle code, just discrete OFF, so if the device is already OFF it doesn't do anything). Trouble is that even for a Utility activity, when selecting which devices to use, the Harmony will try to turn them all ON first which is not what I want. So is there a way to have a master OFF button that does just that, nothing more? I've seen other universal remotes that are able to do so. thanks. No, but that is what the "Off" button is designed to do anyway. If a device is left on after you have pressed the "Off" button, then just press the "Help" button. The first thing the "Help" button does is re-send all discretes, which in this case will send discrete OFF to all devices that have a discrete Off. mmmccall 09-05-07, 04:44 AM Can anyone help me? I have a panasonic plasma flat screen and a samsung dlp tv in the same room. The samsung has a directv H-20 DVR receiver and the panny has a H-10 receiver. When i use my harmony to scroll the directv guide on one tv, the other tv scrolls through at the same time. How can I lock it in to control only one TV at a time? any help would be much appreciated Kex 09-05-07, 09:58 AM ... When i use my harmony to scroll the directv guide on one tv, the other tv scrolls through at the same time. How can I lock it in to control only one TV at a time? ... Have you created a seperate activity for each TV individually? mmmccall 09-05-07, 11:30 AM Have you created a seperate activity for each TV individually? Yes....I created a separate activity for each TV. It just seems that the codes for each receiver are similar so each one responds to the other if you get what I'm trying to say. SirDracula 09-05-07, 01:01 PM No, but that is what the "Off" button is designed to do anyway. If a device is left on after you have pressed the "Off" button, then just press the "Help" button. The first thing the "Help" button does is re-send all discretes, which in this case will send discrete OFF to all devices that have a discrete Off. I guess I have to re-educate the people in the house that "Help" really means "All OFF" in cases when some devices are still left on. It would have been much easier to have an activity that was clearly labeled "All OFF". bernie33 09-05-07, 02:49 PM I guess I have to re-educate the people in the house that "Help" really means "All OFF" in cases when some devices are still left on. It would have been much easier to have an activity that was clearly labeled "All OFF". Here's two other thoughts. If you show the household the Device key then they can pick any device that is left on and then hit the Off key for that device. There is an Off button for each device when you're in device mode. That will always work and is what we do at my house. Another way to consider would be to set up a key, in each activity, that sends the discrete Off codes to all your devices. I don't know how many devices the Harmony will let you control that way with one button currently. I think there was a time when you could control more than one device but they removed that from the software but are now planing on adding it back, probably late this year. The way to do that is near the end of the setup, when it ask if everything is the way you want it and you have to say "no" and have it take you to a pace that lets you add specific additional commands. Kex 09-05-07, 02:49 PM I guess I have to re-educate the people in the house that "Help" really means "All OFF" in cases when some devices are still left on. It would have been much easier to have an activity that was clearly labeled "All OFF". They may be moving the remote too quickly when they press "off": before it has finished sending all the commands. If you can correct this, they shouldn't need the "help" button at all. You could try showing them the icon that shows that signals are still being sent, or just tell them to wait two seconds (or more) before they stop pointing the remote at the equipment. Another solution would be to add something like Hot Link Pro (about $80 shipped on amazon.com) that has a very sensitive receiver eye and will probably pick up the IR signals much better than some/all of your equipment is doing. Have you noticed that certain components seem to have difficulty getting IR signals reliably every time? If so, this solution should really help with that. Gary J 09-05-07, 03:19 PM I don't use All Off at all. I have a Turn Off DVD activity and a Turn Off VCR (TV) activity. They simply send the toggle or discrete codes needed. blazeblaze 09-05-07, 07:11 PM For those with a Sony Playstation 3...this soon to be released PS3 remote featured on Gizmodo appears to have a IR-to-USB dongle...which might work well with the Harmony. I know there was some sort of work around using a PS2 dongle....but this one is designed for the PS3 and should be around $30. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ps3/messiahs-ps3-remote-has-drool+worthy-design-296396.php czzer 09-05-07, 07:51 PM I don't use All Off at all. I have a Turn Off DVD activity and a Turn Off VCR (TV) activity. They simply send the toggle or discrete codes needed. Why are you doing this rather than just using the "Off" button? Gary J 09-05-07, 07:58 PM Because depending on what is turned on some things already off get turned back on. sivartk 09-05-07, 09:04 PM For those with a Sony Playstation 3...this soon to be released PS3 remote featured on Gizmodo appears to have a IR-to-USB dongle...which might work well with the Harmony. I know there was some sort of work around using a PS2 dongle....but this one is designed for the PS3 and should be around $30. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ps3/messiahs-ps3-remote-has-drool+worthy-design-296396.php Nice looking, but not really functional with the Harmony. No on/off command. Since the unit must be on for the USB port to be active, there is no way to turn the PS3 on and off with any IR remote. It would require that Sony add the IR receiver to the design of the PS3, which I doubt will happen. BdoUK 09-05-07, 09:07 PM Is there a way to force the 880 to switch to a certian Device at the end of an Activity? For example, when I choose "Watch TV", I'd like the remote to select the Insight DVR device that I have set. bernie33 09-05-07, 10:29 PM Is there a way to force the 880 to switch to a certain Device at the end of an Activity? For example, when I choose "Watch TV", I'd like the remote to select the Insight DVR device that I have set. Sure. When you setup the activity tell Harmony the devices that must be used. You will also be able to tell it what input your TV should use for that activity. czzer 09-05-07, 10:44 PM Because depending on what is turned on some things already off get turned back on. But if you only use activities to turn devices on (as the remote is intended to be used), then this won't happen. It sounds like either your setup isn't right, or you aren't using the remote correctly. There shouldn't be any need to do things the way you are doing them. czzer 09-05-07, 10:48 PM Is there a way to force the 880 to switch to a certian Device at the end of an Activity? For example, when I choose "Watch TV", I'd like the remote to select the Insight DVR device that I have set. No. That is the whole point of activities...ie you don't control one single device, you control a collection of devices that form the activity. If you want to change the button configuration for the activity, go to "Customize" for the activity, then "Change behavior of buttons". You can then assign any command to any button you want. LCD commands are listed under "Additional commands". BdoUK 09-05-07, 10:53 PM Thanks for the tips. I've only had my 880 a week so I'm still learning the ropes. I think I'm finally getting it close to where I want it. So far I love the remote! Codeman 09-06-07, 07:14 AM Because depending on what is turned on some things already off get turned back on. FYI - If you don't use any Device modes to turn things on and just stick to Activities, you wouldn't have that problem. wdkerbow 09-06-07, 10:51 AM I have a simple setup (DVR, DVD, AVR, TV) and all I do is have every device included in every activity (DVD is on during Watch TV Activity, etc...) When I press the Remote's OFF button, everything gets turned off. I like having all th edevices on for quick switching of activites, no waiting for device startup. On the other hand, if you only use the devices you only use the devices you need in the activiry (the rest are already off) then pressing the off button will turn off the "in-use" devices, leaving everything off (except the DVR which stays on for recording). Make sure your activities are setup correctly as previously stated. webdeck 09-06-07, 12:06 PM A dropped DVD case landed on my 880, its corner hitting the LCD screen and cracking it pretty badly. The remote and LCD still work properly, but I don't know for how long it will keep working. Has anyone gotten their LCD repaired? Do you know how much it would cost? I wrote Logitech and they told me to mail it back to them in Canada and they would send me an estimate, but I figured I would ask here first, because I don't want to send it out if their estimate is going to be close to the cost of a new remote. Thanks! BdoUK 09-06-07, 10:34 PM Has anyone had issues with their "Media" button failing to respond from time to time? Sometimes it works for me and other times I'll press it and it does nothing. There is something rattling around inside my remote, so I'm afraid I might have to send it back for a replacement. SirDracula 09-06-07, 11:16 PM There is something rattling around inside my remote, so I'm afraid I might have to send it back for a replacement. That's the tilt sensor that turns the light on when you pick up the remote. It's normal, no reason to worry about it. I don't use the Media button, so I can't help you there, but in general I found that the force it takes to press each button is not consistent, maybe you just need to press it a little harder. In my case some buttons require a light touch, others more force, in particular the number keys ("3" is a little stubborn). beekeeper 09-07-07, 07:17 AM I use the 880 but it intimidates my wife so she uses a simple remote to just watch TV (and not the DVD HT player and the two DVDRs, and signal splitter) so I can have a dvdr on with the TV and she will shift channels or turn off the TV while the 880 is still in the DVDR activity. So if I use the 880 all-off it will turn off the DVDR and turn on the TV. So I use the help button to turn off the DVDR and then Cover the end of the 880 with my hand and press the all off button. That also works with a lot of activities when you want to do something entirely different, such as have both DVDRs on at the same time. Use the device button to turn the other device on and then cover the remote and shift activities to the newly turned on DVDR. It is amazing all you can do by covering the end of the remote. Holydoc 09-07-07, 08:58 AM I use the 880 but it intimidates my wife so she uses a simple remote to just watch TV (and not the DVD HT player and the two DVDRs, and signal splitter) so I can have a dvdr on with the TV and she will shift channels or turn off the TV while the 880 is still in the DVDR activity. I am surprised that the 880 intimidates your wife. Since you can label your own commands on the LCD screen you can make it as intuitive as you like. Heck, it should be easier to use than any "simple" remote. Even my girlfriend and all her friends find the remote very easy and intuitive. And trust me, they are about as computer savvy as my cats. :p blazeblaze 09-07-07, 10:17 AM I am surprised that the 880 intimidates your wife. Since you can label your own commands on the LCD screen you can make it as intuitive as you like. Heck, it should be easier to use than any "simple" remote. I agree. My wife loves the remote, and so do all the other wives in my circle of friends that purchased an 880 on my recommendation. JayMan007 09-07-07, 10:39 AM Version 7.3.2 is now available. (Sept 6, 2007) It offers a function called sequences (micro) upto 5 commands. I haven't updated my 890 with the sequences yet, but was able to create a few of them... From Harmony/Logitech website/forum: http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=programming&thread.id=5426 The web interface for the Harmony remote client was updated on September 6, 2007. With this update, the Harmony Remote team is pleased to announce that all Harmony Remote customers now have the ability to map multiple commands to a single button. This process is known as creating a Sequence. To create a sequence, please follow these steps: 1. Click Customize Buttons beside an Activity. 2. Click Add Sequence. 3. Give the Sequence a name. 4. Select the device(s) and commands that will be included in the sequence. 5. Click Add another Sequence to append additional sequences to the list. 6. Click Done when you are satisfied with your changes. 7. Sequence will now appear as a selectable item in each drop down menu in the Device column. 8. If Sequence has been selected in the Device column, all the Sequences that have been created will appear in the Command column. 9. Select a Sequence. 10. Click Done. 11. Click Update Remote to download these changes into your remote. There is a Maximum of 5 commands per Sequence. The amount of sequences per account is unlimited, however, there is a maximum of 10 sequences per Activity. It is not possible to use Sequences in Picture or Sound mode. Kindest Regards, The Logitech Harmony Remote Support Team craig_wagner 09-07-07, 11:05 AM This process is known as creating a Sequence. Why does every company feel the need to come up with a new term for every darn little thing? :confused: It's a macro. To create a sequence, please follow these steps Interesting, so the sequence is really a named macro that you then attach to your button, instead of attaching the series of commands directly. I suppose that would allow you to, in theory, re-use the macro (oops, sequence) in more than one activity, and if you wanted to change the behavior, you only have to do so on in one place. Although I don't currently have a need for sequences, I do wonder why they would cap it at five commands per sequence? Seems like an odd arbitrary limit. JayMan007 09-07-07, 11:30 AM Why does every company feel the need to come up with a new term for every darn little thing? :confused: It's a macro. Interesting, so the sequence is really a named macro that you then attach to your button, instead of attaching the series of commands directly. I suppose that would allow you to, in theory, re-use the macro (oops, sequence) in more than one activity, and if you wanted to change the behavior, you only have to do so on in one place. Although I don't currently have a need for sequences, I do wonder why they would cap it at five commands per sequence? Seems like an odd arbitrary limit. I don't really care what they call it, its about time they have it... :) Yes, that would be nice if the sequence could be used in multiple activities, but they will need to be created for each activity. -unless there is a work around that I don't know about... something like a global macro, uh.. global sequence.:rolleyes: craig_wagner 09-07-07, 12:12 PM Yes, that would be nice if the sequence could be used in multiple activities, but they will need to be created for each activity. -unless there is a work around that I don't know about... something like a global macro, uh.. global sequence.:rolleyes: Yup, you're right. I skipped right over step #1 before which states "Click Customize Buttons beside an Activity." :o Okay, now I can't think of a good reason for implementing it that way, other than the fact that it might have been the simplest and quickest way to slip it into the existing database design. kpdillon 09-07-07, 12:57 PM Does anyone see a way to use a "sequence" ahem macro in the device config vs. an activity? Seems if someone pushes device button to control the DVD player for example then they lose their macro capability. tokerblue 09-07-07, 01:23 PM Does anyone see a way to use a "sequence" ahem macro in the device config vs. an activity? Seems if someone pushes device button to control the DVD player for example then they lose their macro capability. - I don't think it's available in Device mode. Not that you should be in device mode too often. ;) mx6bfast 09-07-07, 03:13 PM My 2 big issues with the remote software right now that hasn't been fixed yet are: 1) When the battery runs low I have to keep hitting the right arrow when the battery gets low so I can do any commands. I don't want to continue to be reminded of that. 2) The channel numbers are over the icons in the favorites screen. I want that gone. These were supposed to be fixed in the June or July load. Can anyone confirm those 2 things are not going on in this new version? joe221 09-07-07, 03:29 PM My 2 big issues with the remote software right now that hasn't been fixed yet are: 1) When the battery runs low I have to keep hitting the right arrow when the battery gets low so I can do any commands. I don't want to continue to be reminded of that. 2) The channel numbers are over the icons in the favorites screen. I want that gone. These were supposed to be fixed in the June or July load. Can anyone confirm those 2 things are not going on in this new version? No fix on the channel numbering. It annoys me too! :( tigerkn 09-07-07, 09:01 PM I love yoall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many THANKS for all you guys hard works!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to try it. Kev. Version 7.3.2 is now available. (Sept 6, 2007) It offers a function called sequences (micro) upto 5 commands. I haven't updated my 890 with the sequences yet, but was able to create a few of them... From Harmony/Logitech website/forum: http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=programming&thread.id=5426 The web interface for the Harmony remote client was updated on September 6, 2007. With this update, the Harmony Remote team is pleased to announce that all Harmony Remote customers now have the ability to map multiple commands to a single button. This process is known as creating a Sequence. To create a sequence, please follow these steps: 1. Click Customize Buttons beside an Activity. 2. Click Add Sequence. 3. Give the Sequence a name. 4. Select the device(s) and commands that will be included in the sequence. 5. Click Add another Sequence to append additional sequences to the list. 6. Click Done when you are satisfied with your changes. 7. Sequence will now appear as a selectable item in each drop down menu in the Device column. 8. If Sequence has been selected in the Device column, all the Sequences that have been created will appear in the Command column. 9. Select a Sequence. 10. Click Done. 11. Click Update Remote to download these changes into your remote. There is a Maximum of 5 commands per Sequence. The amount of sequences per account is unlimited, however, there is a maximum of 10 sequences per Activity. It is not possible to use Sequences in Picture or Sound mode. Kindest Regards, The Logitech Harmony Remote Support Team grimholtz 09-08-07, 12:16 AM Does the 890 output RF and IR? I need a remote that can do both. Kex 09-08-07, 12:37 PM Does the 890 output RF and IR? I need a remote that can do both. Yes. The RF is used to communicate with an RF base which in turn emits IR commands to hidden components. The 890 also works with (at least some) Z-wave devices, I believe. IR commands will also be sent normally to devices in line of sight from the remote. grimholtz 09-08-07, 04:12 PM Yes. The RF is used to communicate with an RF base which in turn emits IR commands to hidden components. The 890 also works with (at least some) Z-wave devices, I believe. IR commands will also be sent normally to devices in line of sight from the remote. I understand how the remote communicates to a base via RF and the base translates that to IR. What I'm asking is if the unit held in one's hand (not the base or anything else) can output RF and IR? Based on your last sentence, it sounds like it can... but can you please confirm? Thank you, grimholtz Kex 09-08-07, 04:24 PM Some people seem to expect that an RF remote can communicate with another RF device, such as a ceiling fan that has an RF remote of its own, hence the explanation that you did not need, sorry! As to your question: yes, I can confirm. That is usually how RF remotes work: they still emit IR for line of sight devices that will not be controlled by the hidden RF base. grimholtz 09-08-07, 04:38 PM Some people seem to expect that an RF remote can communicate with another RF device, such as a ceiling fan that has an RF remote of its own, hence the explanation that you did not need, sorry! As to your question: yes, I can confirm. That is usually how RF remotes work: they still emit IR for line of sight devices that will not be controlled by the hidden RF base. Excellent, thank you! Gymbow 09-08-07, 06:32 PM It has been very quiet regarding the latest software update released on Sept 6th for the 880 on Logitech's website. So what does everyone think about it? Does it address the issues & shortfalls that people wanted fixed? Anyone having problems with it? Just wanted to hear what everyone thinks ... tokerblue 09-09-07, 01:52 AM It has been very quiet regarding the latest software update released on Sept 6th for the 880 on Logitech's website. So what does everyone think about it? Does it address the issues & shortfalls that people wanted fixed? Anyone having problems with it? Just wanted to hear what everyone thinks ... - I'm glad that other people can finally use macros, but they are of no use to me. I don't have any piece of equipment that I actually need a macro for. The Activity start and end programming solved all of my issues. blazeblaze 09-09-07, 02:30 AM It appears that the Sequences can't be shared between different activities. So if you want to create a Sequence for use under several different activities, then you will have to re-create it for each activity. blazeblaze 09-09-07, 03:12 AM I was playing around with adding a Sequence tonight, but no matter where I place the sequence on the soft menu, it keeps creating a separate page for the sequence and truncates the label I typed in for it. I guess the Harmony site is having trouble tonight. I guess I will try updating again later. mx6bfast 09-09-07, 08:11 AM It has been very quiet regarding the latest software update released on Sept 6th for the 880 on Logitech's website. So what does everyone think about it? Does it address the issues & shortfalls that people wanted fixed? Anyone having problems with it? Just wanted to hear what everyone thinks ... Doesn't fix these 2 issues for me. So it's a wash. My 2 big issues with the remote software right now that hasn't been fixed yet are: 1) When the battery runs low I have to keep hitting the right arrow when the battery gets low so I can do any commands. I don't want to continue to be reminded of that. 2) The channel numbers are over the icons in the favorites screen. I want that gone. LushMojo 09-09-07, 12:21 PM So, I just sold my 880 to a good friend and it's not working well with his Samsung DLP. I helped him add the devices and set up the activities (watch TV, play DVD, play Xbox 360). When he switches from activity to activity it never goes to the correct input and it's never consistent either (sometimes it passes the correct input by one, sometimes by two, sometimes by three or maybe one again). We read about people having this issue, but can't seem to get a fix in place. The Samsung remote has only one button that he uses to cycle through all inputs. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. tokerblue 09-09-07, 12:36 PM So, I just sold my 880 to a good friend and it's not working well with his Samsung DLP. I helped him add the devices and set up the activities (watch TV, play DVD, play Xbox 360). When he switches from activity to activity it never goes to the correct input and it's never consistent either (sometimes it passes the correct input by one, sometimes by two, sometimes by three or maybe one again). We read about people having this issue, but can't seem to get a fix in place. The Samsung remote has only one button that he uses to cycle through all inputs. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. - Samsung DLP's should have discrete input commands that go directly to the correct input even though the original remote has a toggle. Go back into the setup for the TV and change the input method to direct. The reason it's probably passing inputs is that you may have disabled some inputs in the menu, but that shouldn't matter if you use discrete commands. LushMojo 09-09-07, 12:50 PM When you say "go back into the setup for the TV".....do you mean in an activity or in the device area for the tv? And is it called "direct method"? He's never do any of the setup on his own (just gave him the remote last night) and I've never had to do that specifically with a Harmony. Thanks. - Samsung DLP's should have discrete input commands that go directly to the correct input even though the original remote has a toggle. Go back into the setup for the TV and change the input method to direct. The reason it's probably passing inputs is that you may have disabled some inputs in the menu, but that shouldn't matter if you use discrete commands. tokerblue 09-09-07, 01:40 PM When you say "go back into the setup for the TV".....do you mean in an activity or in the device area for the tv? And is it called "direct method"? He's never do any of the setup on his own (just gave him the remote last night) and I've never had to do that specifically with a Harmony. I haven't programmed my friend's DLP in over a year, so you may have to go with either Method 2 or Method 3. Try Method 2 first. 1. Go into the Device > TV > Settings 2. Select "Re-do setup for this device" 3. Run through the screens until you see the input selection. - Method 2: Select this method if the remote has labeled buttons like VIDEO 1, VIDEO 2, and each button displays a unique source input label on the screen. - Method 3: Select this method if your TV is a Samsung, or if you press a button to bring up an on-screen menu of source inputs, press a different button to cycle between them, and press a third button to accept the selection. blazeblaze 09-09-07, 10:13 PM - Samsung DLP's should have discrete input commands that go directly to the correct input even though the original remote has a toggle. This is exactly the case with my new Samsung HL-T5689S. The only problem I ran into was that one of the HDMI inputs I had to use (I think it was HDMI2) was mislabeled in the Harmony database...but that was easily fixed by trial & error. grittree 09-09-07, 10:31 PM Couple of questions: I seem to recall that Logitech had a place on their site where you could see whether they had codes for your equipment w/o needing an actual remote. Can't find it. Which leads to the equipment I have in mind. Namely, do they have codes for a MCE wireless keyboard? I want to use a 880 to send keyboard shortcuts for VLC. VLC won't be running as an MCE app, but the IR receiver I have is the MCE one, so not sure if that would work anyway. sivartk 09-10-07, 09:05 AM Which leads to the equipment I have in mind. Namely, do they have codes for a MCE wireless keyboard? I want to use a 880 to send keyboard shortcuts for VLC. VLC won't be running as an MCE app, but the IR receiver I have is the MCE one, so not sure if that would work anyway. Even if the code doesn't appear in the database, you can always "teach" the 880 the command as long as the original "remote" sends it out IR. grittree 09-10-07, 12:22 PM Thanks for the reply. When you learn a code, you learn it to a key on a device, right? But does the device have to be set first with the frequency and format to be expected? I tried learning a code from a cheap MS wireless keyboard onto both an old RS 15-2116 and a HTM mx-600. Neither of them would accept the keyboard code. I'm a little over my head here. joe221 09-10-07, 01:28 PM Thanks for the reply. When you learn a code, you learn it to a key on a device, right? But does the device have to be set first with the frequency and format to be expected? I tried learning a code from a cheap MS wireless keyboard onto both an old RS 15-2116 and a HTM mx-600. Neither of them would accept the keyboard code. I'm a little over my head here. Generally, keyboards don't use infra red for trasmission. So the 880 can't learn it. brian32672 09-10-07, 06:08 PM Nevermind this post, just wanted to be in on this thread for all updates.:) BTW, GREAT remote. Codeman 09-12-07, 08:39 AM Nevermind this post, just wanted to be in on this thread for all updates.:) BTW, GREAT remote. FYI - you don't have to post in order to subscribe to a thread. Just go to the Thread Tools button near the top of the page.:) brian32672 09-12-07, 09:17 AM I knew that I could subscribe to any thread without a post. (this is not the only forum, like a lot of us, that I belong to;)) But, I did want a reference point of where I have read to/from. EDIT:: LOL, I even have moderation privelages at some sites (see pic):) Gary J 09-12-07, 09:59 AM Then you would know each notification starts with the newest post. brian32672 09-12-07, 10:16 AM Yeah, you would think so... But with Hotmail & Gmail, (which I have it set to transfer both) That there are plenty of times that I do not get ANY replies (when there are clearly 10+ posts) The 10+ was just an example (1+, 2+, etc.. no rhyme or reason) Granted my reply still stands, I know exactly what post I was up to when I last read (specially when I am subscribed to 20+ forums, with 1,000s of posts) joe221 09-12-07, 11:50 AM Yeah, you would think so... But with Hotmail & Gmail, (which I have it set to transfer both) That there are plenty of times that I do not get ANY replies (when there are clearly 10+ posts) The 10+ was just an example (1+, 2+, etc.. no rhyme or reason) Granted my reply still stands, I know exactly what post I was up to when I last read (specially when I am subscribed to 20+ forums, with 1,000s of posts) Yaeh, and sometimes I get a bunch of emails on one thread each with a different post. CFP 09-12-07, 09:14 PM I'm sorry if this has been covered (this thread is huge) but is there any way to specify what device becomes the currently active device when an Activity ends? For example, I have an Activity - Watch Blu-Ray which uses my TV, AV Receiver, and PS3. When the activity ends, the current active device is the PS3 (which is useless since the remote cannot control the PS3) but I want the active device to the the AV Receiver. Any tips? craig_wagner 09-12-07, 09:21 PM I'm sorry if this has been covered (this thread is huge) but is there any way to specify what device becomes the currently active device when an Activity ends? For example, I have an Activity - Watch Blu-Ray which uses my TV, AV Receiver, and PS3. When the activity ends, the current active device is the PS3 (which is useless since the remote cannot control the PS3) but I want the active device to the the AV Receiver. Any tips? There isn't really any such thing as an 'active device' with an activity-based remote. For example, when my "Watch TV" activity is done executing, the volume controls the receiver, the channel up/down, number pad control, and transport controls control the DVR, and the soft buttons control a handful of TV functions (setting aspect ratio, showing info). You need to do is go into the "Watch Blu-Ray" activity and remap the buttons for that activity to whatever device(s) you would prefer to control. JBaumgart 09-12-07, 09:21 PM I'm sorry if this has been covered (this thread is huge) but is there any way to specify what device becomes the currently active device when an Activity ends? For example, I have an Activity - Watch Blu-Ray which uses my TV, AV Receiver, and PS3. When the activity ends, the current active device is the PS3 (which is useless since the remote cannot control the PS3) but I want the active device to the the AV Receiver. Any tips? I just hit the Activities button and then press the new activity. Then the correct device will automatically control what you want to do next. CFP 09-12-07, 09:30 PM Thanks guys, I didn't realize that there was no "active device" per se. Using the Customize Buttons and remapping the keys did the trick. balpers 09-13-07, 04:50 PM Toying with the idea of getting an 880. I need the ability to insert a time delay in a sequence (macro). Specifically, I need to: 1. Turn on my XBR tv. 2. Wait 5 seconds. 3. Turn on my Denon receiver. If I don't follow this sequence, I get horrible color distortion on the tv. Will I be able to do this if I get the 880? Thanks, Burt wdkerbow 09-13-07, 05:35 PM Toying with the idea of getting an 880. I need the ability to insert a time delay in a sequence (macro). Specifically, I need to: 1. Turn on my XBR tv. 2. Wait 5 seconds. 3. Turn on my Denon receiver. If I don't follow this sequence, I get horrible color distortion on the tv. Will I be able to do this if I get the 880? Thanks, Burt The Harmony remotes allow you to set an inter-device delay so that it knows how long to wait in between sending commands to different devices. You set this in 500 millisecond increments. You would need 5000 milliseconds to do what you are needing to do. The Harmony remotes are capable of what you are asking. balpers 09-13-07, 07:35 PM The Harmony remotes allow you to set an inter-device delay so that it knows how long to wait in between sending commands to different devices. You set this in 500 millisecond increments. You would need 5000 milliseconds to do what you are needing to do. The Harmony remotes are capable of what you are asking. David, Thank you. One further question, if you don't mind. Does the delay apply to all commands sent to the different devices or can it be restricted to individual sequences. My situation is this: I want the delay to be imposed only on power up. However, if I am sending a sequence to the Denon and XBR (e.g., for a device switch to move from my DVR to my DVD) can I eliminate the delay? Burt czzer 09-13-07, 08:36 PM Toying with the idea of getting an 880. I need the ability to insert a time delay in a sequence (macro). Specifically, I need to: 1. Turn on my XBR tv. 2. Wait 5 seconds. 3. Turn on my Denon receiver. If I don't follow this sequence, I get horrible color distortion on the tv. Will I be able to do this if I get the 880? Thanks, Burt This needs to be done by tech support, but that only takes a quick phone call. wdkerbow 09-13-07, 09:07 PM David, Thank you. One further question, if you don't mind. Does the delay apply to all commands sent to the different devices or can it be restricted to individual sequences. My situation is this: I want the delay to be imposed only on power up. However, if I am sending a sequence to the Denon and XBR (e.g., for a device switch to move from my DVR to my DVD) can I eliminate the delay? Burt It's been my experience that this is a global setting. But as czzer points out, it may be possible to restrict it as you describe with a call to tech support. czzer 09-13-07, 11:25 PM It's been my experience that this is a global setting. But as czzer points out, it may be possible to restrict it as you describe with a call to tech support. Correct, it is a global setting for that device. A 5 second Inter Device Delay would make the remote unusable for that device as it would be too slugish. It is also possible that, as the delay is so long, the remote would send the power command to the Denon before the TV anyway to avoid the delay. Tech support is the only way to do it properly. They can edit the code in ways we can't. balpers 09-14-07, 01:07 AM Correct, it is a global setting for that device. A 5 second Inter Device Delay would make the remote unusable for that device as it would be too slugish. It is also possible that, as the delay is so long, the remote would send the power command to the Denon before the TV anyway to avoid the delay. Tech support is the only way to do it properly. They can edit the code in ways we can't. Thank you both for your help. I'll call Logitech tomorrow to see if I can get the specifics. Burt crussell96 09-14-07, 01:02 PM I updated my remote last night after changing some of the delay settings and now my receiver is not changing inputs when switching activities anymore even after going back to the default delay settings. Using Help and trying to change the inputs that way does not work, going to the receiver under Devices and trying to use the dedicated input buttons also does not work. Cycling through the inputs does work though. I have a Pioneer VSX-D608 A/V Receiver. Any help would be appreciated. tokerblue 09-14-07, 01:04 PM I updated my remote last night after changing some of the delay settings and now my receiver is not changing inputs when switching activities anymore even after going back to the default delay settings. - Go into the Device and reset the delays to their default settings. Then try to tweak them after. Jeremy Anderson 09-14-07, 01:04 PM This may fall into the stupid question category, but: I have a Hitachi RPTV and a Sanyo PLV-Z3 projector (and the screen drops down in front of the TV). They're both fed signal through a remote-operated component matrix switcher. I use the projector most of the time, but sometimes I just use the RPTV if I'm hopping in and out of the room. Thinking about buying the 880 to replace my trusty Radio Shack 1994. With the above setup and the whole activity thing, would I have to set up activities for on/off with the projector and then seperate on/off with the TV? Or am I just creating a logistical nightmare? Maybe I'm just confused by the whole "activity" thing, since I'm used to just plugging in macros on my 1994 and bouncing between devices as needed. wdkerbow 09-14-07, 01:18 PM You would have two activities... "Watch RPTV" and "Watch Projector". You would setup each activity to use the devices you need and set the inputs accordingly. balpers 09-14-07, 01:35 PM Thank you both for your help. I'll call Logitech tomorrow to see if I can get the specifics. Burt I just spoke to Logitech support. The tech I spoke to assured me that it is possible to have a delay apply only to the power-on sequence. No other function on the device would be affected by the delay. I hope he is right. I think I'll go for the 880. I'm going to be an unhappy camper if it doesn't work. Burt taboni 09-14-07, 01:35 PM I'm having a strange problem lately with mine. When watching TV, the remote controls the volume from the TV speaker, no problem there; however when I switch activities to watch a DVD, the AV Receiver is supposed to control the volume, not the TV. This used to work fine since I got the thing, however all of a sudden both the TV volume and the AV volume are being controlled at the same time. Obviously no sound is coming out of the TV, but the volume indicator goes up/down. I spent an hour with tech support and she said she had to transfer me to level 2 support. They kept me on hold for 40 minutes so I gave up and figured I would call back again. Anyone else ever have this kind of thing happen? crussell96 09-14-07, 02:45 PM - Go into the Device and reset the delays to their default settings. Then try to tweak them after. I already reset back to the defaults and no luck. I dont think that has anything to do with it because when I go into the device on the remote and try the TV/Sat button or the VCR1 button it doesn't switch the inputs. beekeeper 09-16-07, 06:48 AM This may fall into the stupid question category, but: I have a Hitachi RPTV and a Sanyo PLV-Z3 projector (and the screen drops down in front of the TV). They're both fed signal through a remote-operated component matrix switcher. I use the projector most of the time, but sometimes I just use the RPTV if I'm hopping in and out of the room. Thinking about buying the 880 to replace my trusty Radio Shack 1994. With the above setup and the whole activity thing, would I have to set up activities for on/off with the projector and then seperate on/off with the TV? Or am I just creating a logistical nightmare? Maybe I'm just confused by the whole "activity" thing, since I'm used to just plugging in macros on my 1994 and bouncing between devices as needed. Nice thing about the 880 is you keep finding new things it can do. I have something similar to you but with more units that I use with either my projector or TV. So all I need do is select an activity like "PhilPro" which has the TV for sound, Phillips DVR for picture and projector for viewing. I have three separate activities that use the projector and other equipment. Plus, when I shift from one activity to another that uses the projector, it will change between Pannys or Phillips, change the input (svidio or component), and change the sound source (receiver or TV), with one button. So, yes, you can do what you want. tokerblue 09-18-07, 12:07 PM I already reset back to the defaults and no luck. I dont think that has anything to do with it because when I go into the device on the remote and try the TV/Sat button or the VCR1 button it doesn't switch the inputs. Try adding the device again from scratch. It's possible the profile was corrupted somehow. The_Canuck_1989 09-18-07, 01:27 PM Have any of you had your remote input the number or function twice? For example, if I want to watch Fox, the number is 32. If I punch those two numbers into the remote, it will send out 3 3 2. I am assuming there would be another 2, but the channels don't go that high. This is only happening with a new Samsung Digital Tuner. My guess is that there is something within the set up of the remote or with the device that I can adjust that, but I am not 100% sure. So I am coming here for your input.. hopefully I won't get double outputs. :rolleyes: oh boy that was a lame joke. :rolleyes: :D tokerblue 09-18-07, 06:54 PM Have any of you had your remote input the number or function twice? For example, if I want to watch Fox, the number is 32. If I punch those two numbers into the remote, it will send out 3 3 2. I am assuming there would be another 2, but the channels don't go that high. - It sounds like you need to adjust the number of repeats. The sticky has directions on how to do it. Speedskater 09-18-07, 09:38 PM Have any of you had your remote input the number or function twice? For example, if I want to watch Fox, the number is 32. If I punch those two numbers into the remote, it will send out 3 3 2. I am assuming there would be another 2, but the channels don't go that high. This is only happening with a new Samsung Digital Tuner. My Samsung TV does this double bounce thing even when using the original Samsung remote. The_Canuck_1989 09-18-07, 09:40 PM never had it do it with the original remote, just this. And of course for some odd reason as I am flicking through the channels it will skip a channel as it does its repeat thing. And it always seems to end up on the weather sub-channel. The_Canuck_1989 09-18-07, 09:48 PM Well I don't know the exact sticky you are referring to, but was able to find a link on the Logitech forums on what is going on. Someone even has the same set-top receiver with teh same problems so it made it very easy. Thanks for the input. sivartk 09-18-07, 09:48 PM have you adjusted the inter-key delay setting? Make it longer. tokerblue 09-18-07, 10:48 PM Well I don't know the exact sticky you are referring to, but was able to find a link on the Logitech forums on what is going on. Someone even has the same set-top receiver with teh same problems so it made it very easy. Thanks for the input. The only sticky in the Remote Control Area forum. It's named "Harmony Slow Response? Read here!" :) The_Canuck_1989 09-19-07, 07:55 AM My bad... I was looking at the first page of this thread, not the area. Either way, it has been corrected, and thats another reason why I love this remote so much. So many different things that you can do to it and customize it with. dw0827 09-20-07, 10:13 AM There is a firefox extension that will let you "move" the soft buttons on the screen, by just clicking a little "up / down" arrow. Easier than redoing the whole set up. Not sure if you can automatically have it access a device mode in an activity. I just put the buttons I would most often use (that aren't already keyed to a hard button) in the softkeys manually (it may do some for you). I'm thinking I must be really dumb. Just got a remote. Popped in the software (actually downloaded it) . . . and the software doesn't seem to be using a browser, either IE or Firefox. (I use Firefox and have the extension mentioned above . . . and understand why the extension would be so useful). What gives? How can I configure the remote in a browser instead of the software? fitbrit 09-20-07, 10:26 AM Is it just me, or has Logitech actually reduced how much you can customise your remote's programming recently. I seem to recall having much more flexibility with my 628. Now it's so frustrating because not all activities/components I want fall into the limited variety there is. I have a DVD changer, an upscaling DVD player and an HTPC. Is there some "other level" of programming that the default interface hides for the sake of newbies? BruceS 09-20-07, 10:51 AM I'm thinking I must be really dumb. Just got a remote. Popped in the software (actually downloaded it) . . . and the software doesn't seem to be using a browser, either IE or Firefox. (I use Firefox and have the extension mentioned above . . . and understand why the extension would be so useful). What gives? How can I configure the remote in a browser instead of the software? Try http://members.harmonyremote.com. It used to be easier to find. There was a link to it on the logitech.com web site, but it was removed for some reason. SirDracula 09-20-07, 11:32 AM What gives? How can I configure the remote in a browser instead of the software? Log in via a web browser here: http://members.harmonyremote.com chris0 09-20-07, 03:06 PM I'm thinking I must be really dumb. Just got a remote. Popped in the software (actually downloaded it) . . . and the software doesn't seem to be using a browser, either IE or Firefox. (I use Firefox and have the extension mentioned above . . . and understand why the extension would be so useful). What gives? How can I configure the remote in a browser instead of the software? once you get the Harmony programmed you're not going to be messing with it anymore...do you really need the plugin? TheMoose 09-20-07, 03:39 PM once you get the Harmony programmed you're not going to be messing with it anymore...do you really need the plugin? That's not true, I still tweak mine a lot. I just added a new receiver to my system & I'll be finding things I want to add in different activities for quite a while. chris0 09-20-07, 04:21 PM That's not true, I still tweak mine a lot. I just added a new receiver to my system & I'll be finding things I want to add in different activities for quite a while. obviously the addition of new equipment means you're going to reprogram it. but don't you find once you've figured out the way you want it set you leave it be? TheMoose 09-20-07, 04:52 PM obviously the addition of new equipment means you're going to reprogram it. but don't you find once you've figured out the way you want it set you leave it be? Well I'm finding stuff I want to add quite a bit, since I've had my remote I've probably gone back in & tweaked something at least a couple of times a month. craig_wagner 09-20-07, 06:04 PM Well I'm finding stuff I want to add quite a bit, since I've had my remote I've probably gone back in & tweaked something at least a couple of times a month. I agree. I'll tweak the timings to try to get the activity macros to run faster, or add/remove/rearrange stuff on the soft buttons. SirDracula 09-20-07, 06:09 PM Has anyone figured out how to order the Devices or at least make them stay in the same order? It seems that when I make a change and update the remote the device order on the Devices screen sometimes changes, sometimes doesn't and I don't know what triggers it. But it's annoying, I get used to an order and then it changes again ... How can Harmony leave out such a basic feature when they have it for Activities?? tokerblue 09-20-07, 08:11 PM The device order is determined by what Activity you run. You can't sort it. If you find yourself in Device mode frequently, it means you should think about adding that particular command to the Activity. mx6bfast 09-20-07, 09:11 PM Has anyone ever tried to use this with a V-tech V smile? SirDracula 09-20-07, 09:52 PM The device order is determined by what Activity you run. You can't sort it. If you find yourself in Device mode frequently, it means you should think about adding that particular command to the Activity. I know, but that's not ideal when you have 5 Activities and the receiver has 2 pages of surround/DSP modes with discrete IR codes that I need to get to frequently. It's not easy to add these 2 extra pages to each activity (though the Harmony could make it trivial to copy a page from a Device to an Activity or between 2 Activities). That's why I find myself going back to the receiver all the time. tokerblue 09-20-07, 11:54 PM I saw your name in the Denon 3808ci thread, so I'm assuming you have that receiver. Are you using the Denon surround/DSP modes that often between sources? Doesn't the receiver remember what mode you left it on per input? I still would put the discrete commands in the LCD screen if you access them that often. 5 minutes of setup beats changing to device mode all the time. I'm buying the 3808ci this weekend, so I'll have a better understanding of how it works, but I have set up the 3806 for my father's system. I absolutely can't stand the DSP modes that the receiver has. I'm not sure if the 3808ci is any different, but the only surround modes that I've ever found to be good are Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS: Neo. SirDracula 09-21-07, 01:21 AM Yes, that's my receiver. Here are the modes that I use (and I have the discrete codes for each one of them, rather than toggle through all of them): DPL IIx Music & Cinema, DTS Neo Music & Cinema, Stereo, Direct, Pure Direct, Matrix, Wide Screen, 5CH Stereo. That's 10 of them. Plus there are other useful ones like Room/Audyssey EQ ON/OFF, Input Mode (digital in, HDMI, analog, etc.) that I change based on what type of media I play (e.g. I have a problem with HDCD, Oppo and the Denon where it doesn't work over HDMI, so I have to switch the DVD input to the digital coax in). I can't just copy all of these actions, I'd soon find myself duplicating the AVR and TV commands in each activity. Depending on the input and what that input is playing (e.g. DVD-V/DVD-A/CD/SACD/DTS/HDCD on the DVD input, HDTV with/without DD 5.1 on the TV input depending on the channel, SDTV, etc.) I usually flip through a few modes to see what sounds best at the time. Same with the TV controls, I have discrete codes for its screen format 16:9, 4:3, wide, zoom, etc. then the picture modes that I customized and sometimes switch between depending on the channel and type of video material. It's just very annoying to duplicate all these device specific commands in each activity, I find it much easier to just go to the device itself where I have every device command available. Getting to the device is really just 2 keys (Devices key, then AVR key). I guess having 2 extra pages in each Activity would be 1 less key as I would still have to scroll from the main Activity page to the next page that has these modes. Now, these devices switching their order slows me down as it's no longer an subconscious action, I have to look where the AVR device ended up on the Devices screen. I wish I could program a soft key in the Activity to jump to a device specific page (say AVR device, page 2), sort of like the Sound and Picture buttons that the older Harmony remotes (659 and 670) have, though their implementation was not ideal either. CraigW 09-21-07, 04:30 PM Is it just me, or has Logitech actually reduced how much you can customise your remote's programming recently. I seem to recall having much more flexibility with my 628. Now it's so frustrating because not all activities/components I want fall into the limited variety there is. I have a DVD changer, an upscaling DVD player and an HTPC. Is there some "other level" of programming that the default interface hides for the sake of newbies? Logitech recently released new programming software that brings back some functionality that was lost its previous release. The new software in the customize buttons screen for each activity now has a sequence option. So you can tie a string of commands all to one or multiple devices to a standard or customized button. Example: In my Watch DVD activity I created a sequences called PauseLightsUp (which consists of commands DVD: Pause and Light Control: Scene2) and PlayLightsOff (DVD: Play and Light Control: AllLightsOff). After creating your sequence at the customize screen instead of choosing a component in the pop menu next to the button being configured, choose Sequence and the created sequences for that activity are available. Note: Each sequence is tied to its associated activity, so if there are similar sequences in different activities you need to create unique sequences for each activity. They don't carry over to other activities. So to do the same thing with the lights and pausing the PVR I created the sequences named the same for the PVR activity. IMHO, the sequence option is more powerful than previous software versions since you can now send more than one command to a single device on a single button. Another thing I really like with the newer versions is the easier ability to place commands on specific customized buttons. I like making it as consistent as possible on each activity customized button screen. THX modes, ReEq, RCVR Dimmer, Projector Off, etc... are all on the same buttons regardless of activity. Consistency makes it easier for SO to use. HiHoStevo 09-21-07, 05:01 PM Personally I was quite satisfied with the "old" way of doing it...(before they screwed it up), but I can see where the sequence can be of more value to some folks. However, there is a bug in that any sequence you place on the 880 will wind up leaving a blank space on your screen and the sequence will be placed at the end of what ever pages of commands you have placed on the screen...... this bug for me makes it worthless as it moves my pause and play commands over to the second page... which is not where my most needed commands are located. CraigW 09-21-07, 05:17 PM this bug for me makes it worthless as it moves my pause and play commands over to the second page... which is not where my most needed commands are located. Thanks for the information. I have mapped my sequences to hard buttons, Play and Pause, and I was unaware of the bug. brian32672 09-21-07, 06:45 PM Logitech recently released new programming software that brings back some functionality that was lost its previous release. Cool, thanks for the heads up.:) reyalP 09-21-07, 06:46 PM Just got this remote and need some help. I'm trying to set up my HTPC to work off this remote but the problem I'm having is there is no AUX 1 option in the software for my Onkyo 805 reciever. When I add an Aux 1 option it still dosen't switch the reciever over to Aux1. I think I'm doing something wrong. How do I properly set up the Aux 1 on this remote to work? I also have a cd player but the program will not let me select it as the digital music or listen to music option. It automatically assigns the HTPC as the source. How do I overwrite the assign source with the cd player? I also can't get the remote to turn on my xbox 360. Is it compatible with the 360? thanks brian32672 09-21-07, 06:47 PM You could always learn the command (as long as you have the original remote) joe221 09-21-07, 08:31 PM Just got this remote and need some help. I'm trying to set up my HTPC to work off this remote but the problem I'm having is there is no AUX 1 option in the software for my Onkyo 805 reciever. When I add an Aux 1 option it still dosen't switch the reciever over to Aux1. I think I'm doing something wrong. How do I properly set up the Aux 1 on this remote to work? I also have a cd player but the program will not let me select it as the digital music or listen to music option. It automatically assigns the HTPC as the source. How do I overwrite the assign source with the cd player? I also can't get the remote to turn on my xbox 360. Is it compatible with the 360? thanks Mine does so, but I generally use the joystick controller to turn on the 360. I have the discrete on/off commands in the LCD window. I found the reliability of turning it on and off via the Harmony was soso. But, it will do it. beekeeper 09-22-07, 06:35 AM My harmony froze a couple of days ago and I re-set it by pulling the battery. All was well again, and even my problem with the hard push of the upper volume and channel rocker went away. Both upper and lower are now the same. I cannot see how the re-set changed that, since it seems mechanical, but maybe in getting the battery case open, it did something. Anyway, food for thought. That battery lid is a bear to get off. Is there a trick to making it easy? joe221 09-22-07, 11:26 AM My harmony froze a couple of days ago and I re-set it by pulling the battery. All was well again, and even my problem with the hard push of the upper volume and channel rocker went away. Both upper and lower are now the same. I cannot see how the re-set changed that, since it seems mechanical, but maybe in getting the battery case open, it did something. Anyway, food for thought. That battery lid is a bear to get off. Is there a trick to making it easy? Push down at the curved center area and slide back. jsimmons3 09-22-07, 06:51 PM I have a 880, and I'm having a problem setting up my TV. <RANT> I have a Mitsubishi WD-57731. When the Harmony crapware - er - I meant "software" sets up for the TV, it's missing one of the HDMI inputs, the correctly named "Input" button as well as several other buttons for the remote. Why doesn't their "database" include the right stuff for this TV. It's not like the TV is brand new or something... </RANT> Questions: 1) I changed the name of COMP-1 to "Cable", and HDMI-1 to "DVD". Do I have to change the names of the inputs in the 880 to match, or will the TV figure out what the remote wants to do? 2) How do I add correctly named commands for the TV's remote? I've had this remote for almost a year and have always become frustrated with it and put it ion a drawer due to issues like this. Pacbellguy 09-23-07, 01:10 AM I just started to set up my 880 today. I seem to be having a very slow response to what appears to be software updates. Is this normal? It seems to be freezing at update 34 of 39. I'm also having a hard time figuring out how to have the volume button control my Denon 4308ci no matter what device I'm actively using.. such as my Directv Hr-20. I'm sure I just have to play around with it. chris0 09-23-07, 03:31 AM ...it's missing one of the HDMI inputs, the correctly named "Input" button as well as several other buttons for the remote. Why doesn't their "database" include the right stuff for this TV. It's not like the TV is brand new or something... The database is user defined. That is, it's built upon users such as yourself learning the commands, then using the Logitech software which uploads the commands. Once there are enough of the same thing it gets added to the database. I'd guess not enough users added the commands you wanted. You just need to use the software and "learn" them yourself. ...Do I have to change the names of the inputs in the 880 to match, or will the TV figure out what the remote wants to do? The signals sent by the remote and accepted by the receiver don't change when you rename them. You only have to change the names in the 880 if it helps you keep track of what's what. ...How do I add correctly named commands for the TV's remote? I'm not really sure what you're asking for here. You can use the software to learn a command from your original remote and call it whatever you want. ...I've had this remote for almost a year and have always become frustrated with it and put it ion a drawer due to issues like this. This remote could become one of your most valued HT possessions if you have a little patience. Make sure you've downloaded the latest software, it may have changed in the last year. And check out the Harmony forum at remotecentral.com if you keep having problems, someone there may have alread gone through what you're going through. chris0 09-23-07, 03:46 AM I just started to set up my 880 today. I seem to be having a very slow response to what appears to be software updates. Is this normal? It seems to be freezing at update 34 of 39. I just switched to a new computer and downloaded the software with no problems. I'm not sure about it's update capability. Maybe you should uninstall it and reinstall it. Don't worry about the settings, they're stored on the Logitech web servers. I'm also having a hard time figuring out how to have the volume button control my Denon 4308ci no matter what device I'm actively using.. such as my Directv Hr-20. You can go in and change the HR20s device settings to that it uses your 4308's volume control (select the Devices tab then the HR20 Settings>Customize buttons,) but it sounds like you need to set up some activities. I have one called "Watch DirecTV" and it changes my TV's input and my receivers input. Most of the buttons are for the HR20 but the volume buttons control the receiver. One of the first things you are asked when setting up an Activity (assuming your devices are already programmed in) is which device you want to control the volume. Your receiver should be an option, just select that. One thing you may have to get used to is that with Activities the remote doesn't default to any one device. That defeats the purpose of Activities. It uses the button assignments you give it for that particular Activity. Once you configure it properly this thing is great! One of the best products I've ever purchased. beekeeper 09-23-07, 07:01 AM Push down at the curved center area and slide back. Just what I do but it is reluctant to slide. Guess I have a protective unit. joe221 09-23-07, 12:56 PM Just what I do but it is reluctant to slide. Guess I have a protective unit. Yup, it can be stubborn! ;) Pacbellguy 09-23-07, 09:14 PM "One thing you may have to get used to is that with Activities the remote doesn't default to any one device. That defeats the purpose of Activities. It uses the button assignments you give it for that particular Activity." I see what you mean. The Activity button took me to a different subset of commands for my Directv receiver that don't match the "device" commands. No biggie.. I'll just customize that as well. My volume is working for my receiver.. which is great. Unless I'm missing it though... it does look like I can't use the volume on my receiver if I decide to use the "device" button to select my Directv receiver. I couldn't even find a way to use the IR Learn function because the volume up and volume down don't appear as standard buttons under my Directv receiver choices. Thank you for your help and now I'm off to make some more adjustments :-) LastButNotLeast 09-23-07, 10:26 PM Depending on the input and what that input is playing (e.g. DVD-V/DVD-A/CD/SACD/DTS/HDCD on the DVD input, HDTV with/without DD 5.1 on the TV input depending on the channel, SDTV, etc.) I usually flip through a few modes to see what sounds best at the time. Do you HAVE to use discrete codes for your receiver? Though the Harmony database adds discrete codes for my Pioneer, the receiver's remote uses two buttons, "Standard" and "Advanced," each of which toggles through several sound options. I just mapped "Standard" to the "+" key and "Advanced" to the "E" key for the appropriate Activities and I can cycle through the sound modes easily. tigerkn 09-23-07, 11:16 PM Anyone know if there is an adjustment function for the sensitivity of waking the 880 up after it went into the sleeping mode??? I want to turn my DVD light off when I watch movie at night, but it take 8 keys on the DVD remote control to do that and light off function is not available on the DVD function list. Is there a way set up to use the 880 to turn the DVD light Off/On with 1 key tigerkn 09-23-07, 11:25 PM Please share you fun sequence set-up idea, here is mine: Super Fast Forward: PVR - Fast Forward PVR - Fast Forward PVR - Fast Forward PVR - Fast Forward Change the FF "Skip" key to Super FF and do the same thing for the Rewind. I love to use these sequences to FF or Rewind full speed while watching recorded materials instead of press the FF key 4 times. blazeblaze 09-24-07, 12:08 AM I want to turn my DVD light off when I watch movie at night, but it take 8 keys on the DVD remote control to do that and light off function is not available on the DVD function list. Is there a way set up to use the 880 to turn the DVD light Off/On with 1 key Try learning the key sequence in RAW mode. This type of thing has worked for me (such as toggling my HDTV's internal mute). The new sequence functionality would be perfect for this, but I believe it is limited to only 5 commands, which really sucks. tigerkn 09-24-07, 12:11 AM I thought the raw mode just learn the function from one remote control to another (880) and it only does one key :confused:. Try learning the key sequence in RAW mode. This type of thing has worked for me (such as toggling my HDTV's internal mute). The new sequence functionality would be perfect for this, but I believe it is limited to only 5 commands, which really sucks. blazeblaze 09-24-07, 12:26 AM I thought the raw mode just learn the function from one remote control to another (880) and it only does one key :confused:. I have successfully recorded a series of 15 commands in RAW mode. Other folks have reported mixed results, but it's worth a try to see if it can solve your issue. I would suggest that you script out the key sequence on paper, and try to record it at a swift pace....that seemed to work well for me. tigerkn 09-24-07, 01:21 AM Thanks Blazeblaze!!!!!!!!!!! I will try that. Elton Noway 09-24-07, 09:22 AM I have seen claims that Logitech have redesigned the cradle and it did seem different on the new units. I've read similar threads about Logitec sending out new charging cradles to people who reported charging problems. (i.e., the new ones work better... unit redesigned etc.). I searched this thread looking to see if anyone recorded any of the different part numbers (model versions) and couldn't find anything. I was just wondering (for people who think they have a problem) has anyone determined a way to identify if we have an old original cradle or one of the new redesgned ones? Anyone here care to identify their model / part number and satisfaction level. (Good/Bad etc) The bottom of my cradle is marked: M/N L-LG7 P/N: 866148-0000 Good... working at this time craig_wagner 09-24-07, 09:35 AM Unless I'm missing it though... it does look like I can't use the volume on my receiver if I decide to use the "device" button to select my Directv receiver. I couldn't even find a way to use the IR Learn function because the volume up and volume down don't appear as standard buttons under my Directv receiver choices. If I understand your questions correctly you are correct. When you go into device mode for one device you cannot control another device. SnellKrell 09-24-07, 09:37 AM Mine is marked exactly the same. It is either my third or fourth charging cradle. Received it early June. So far, working perfectly! craig_wagner 09-24-07, 09:50 AM Unless I'm missing it though... it does look like I can't use the volume on my receiver if I decide to use the "device" button to select my Directv receiver. I couldn't even find a way to use the IR Learn function because the volume up and volume down don't appear as standard buttons under my Directv receiver choices. If I understand your questions correctly you are correct. When you go into device mode for one device you cannot control another device. JLINES45@COMCAST 09-24-07, 10:04 AM I have my remote set up for DirecTv and Comcast because I have both so yesterday during football I couldn't get PIP does anyone know anything about this it just got set up all over again and the way it was done is if you push watch tv then everything shuts down and Comcast comes on and ReplayTv it's hooked up to that so no matter what I tried even using there own remotes I couldn't get PIP because of how it shuts down everything it would show the same picture in both so does anyone have any ideas. Thanks in advance. wdkerbow 09-24-07, 12:07 PM Please share your fun sequence set-up idea Good idea! Here are some really simple one's I"ve created so far with my Motorola 6412 Phase III DVR: Scheduled Recordings: DVR - MyDVR DVR - B Series Manager: DVR - MyDVR DVR - C Search Guide: DVR - Guide DVR - C bernie33 09-24-07, 12:21 PM I have my remote set up for DirecTv and Comcast because I have both so yesterday during football I couldn't get PIP does anyone know anything about this it just got set up all over again and the way it was done is if you push watch tv then everything shuts down and Comcast comes on and ReplayTv it's hooked up to that so no matter what I tried even using there own remotes I couldn't get PIP because of how it shuts down everything it would show the same picture in both so does anyone have any ideas. Thanks in advance. If I understand correctly, you want your DirecTV and your Comcast stations to be supplied at the same time using the PIP feature that is built into your TV. If that is correct, the next question is how you have your satellite/cable boxes connected to your TV and whether your TV can accept signals from both of those sources at the same time to display them in its PIP feature. You didn't mention what type of TV you have. HiHoStevo 09-24-07, 02:00 PM "One thing you may have to get used to is that with Activities the remote doesn't default to any one device. That defeats the purpose of Activities. It uses the button assignments you give it for that particular Activity." I see what you mean. The Activity button took me to a different subset of commands for my Directv receiver that don't match the "device" commands. No biggie.. I'll just customize that as well. My volume is working for my receiver.. which is great. Unless I'm missing it though... it does look like I can't use the volume on my receiver if I decide to use the "device" button to select my Directv receiver. I couldn't even find a way to use the IR Learn function because the volume up and volume down don't appear as standard buttons under my Directv receiver choices. Thank you for your help and now I'm off to make some more adjustments :-) ????? Not sure why you would want to stay in the "device mode" while you are watching TV..... when you set up the Watch TV activity it asked you what you wanted to control the volume with... and you should have responded with your receiver... redo the setup for the activity if you selected something else... I use a DTV DVR for all my TV needs and have not found a need to be in "device mode" during TV watching...? I have mapped several of the keys (Menu, Exit, +12 hrs, -12 hrs, List, etc to the LCD screen so they are available during the watch TV activity. munnz 09-25-07, 08:02 AM Hi all, I just got the 880 last week and so far it's pretty great. Buttons are small and hard to read but I guess to fit them all on a one-handed remote they had to. Even my wife has come around to see how much easier it is than all of the different remotes we had. But I do have 2 questions... 1. The Media button does not display favorites as I thought it would. Do you have to set this up? 2. When I hit the Prev. button the tv goes blank and my receiver is getting no signal?? Cable seems to change channel, or if I change it manually it does, but still no signal. If I turn off the TV signal comes back??? I have a Samsung LN-T4661F TV, Onkyo 604 receiver, and SA8300 cable box. (The Help button on remote did not help.) Thanks, Mike craig_wagner 09-25-07, 09:41 AM 1. The Media button does not display favorites as I thought it would. Do you have to set this up? 2. When I hit the Prev. button the tv goes blank and my receiver is getting no signal?? Cable seems to change channel, or if I change it manually it does, but still no signal. If I turn off the TV signal comes back??? I have a Samsung LN-T4661F TV, Onkyo 604 receiver, and SA8300 cable box. (The Help button on remote did not help.) 1. Yes 2. You need to check and see what command the Prev button is mapped to. The initial run through the wizard probably defaulted it to something, but you should check and see what that something is. The Help button won't work in this situation, it is intended to be used when an Activity fails to start correctly. At this point you aren't starting an activity, you are just pressing a button. munnz 09-25-07, 11:08 AM 1. Yes 2. You need to check and see what command the Prev button is mapped to. The initial run through the wizard probably defaulted it to something, but you should check and see what that something is. The Help button won't work in this situation, it is intended to be used when an Activity fails to start correctly. At this point you aren't starting an activity, you are just pressing a button. Thanks for the reply 1. How? Can't find it. 2. I'll check it out mx6bfast 09-25-07, 11:16 AM Thanks for the reply 1. How? Can't find it. In the software select customize buttons and then setup favorites. Something like that. JLINES45@COMCAST 09-25-07, 12:00 PM If I understand correctly, you want your DirecTV and your Comcast stations to be supplied at the same time using the PIP feature that is built into your TV. If that is correct, the next question is how you have your satellite/cable boxes connected to your TV and whether your TV can accept signals from both of those sources at the same time to display them in its PIP feature. You didn't mention what type of TV you have. bernie33 I just wanted to say thanks for your reply I did get it straighten out it was right there I just had to go further in to the remote. Thanks Again bernie33 09-25-07, 02:34 PM Hi all, I just got the 880 last week and so far it's pretty great. Buttons are small and hard to read but I guess to fit them all on a one-handed remote they had to. Even my wife has come around to see how much easier it is than all of the different remotes we had. But I do have 2 questions... 1. The Media button does not display favorites as I thought it would. Do you have to set this up? 2. When I hit the Prev. button the tv goes blank and my receiver is getting no signal?? Cable seems to change channel, or if I change it manually it does, but still no signal. If I turn off the TV signal comes back??? I have a Samsung LN-T4661F TV, Onkyo 604 receiver, and SA8300 cable box. (The Help button on remote did not help.) Thanks, Mike As someone else mentioned, you have to "customize" the Media buttons. Once you do that, pressing the Media button will display up to eight channels on the LCD, and you have the option of a second page with up to eight more. You'll tell the setup what channel number you want in each position. You can also tell it about an image for each channel and it will display those images at each channel position on the remote along with the number. Usually you will want to use the logo for each channel. Logitech's Help used to have a link to external sites that had collections of channel icons, but that seems to have disappeared. You can use a search engine and find collections of TV channel icons though, and if you have photo-editing software you can capture the icons from the channels own websites. The Prev button should tell the DVR to go back to the last channel. Sounds like you may need to tailor that button for your Activity, of train it for your DVR. But no need to waste a lot of time if you can't get it working quickly. Logitech's telephone support is excellent and very helpful. munnz 09-26-07, 08:27 AM As someone else mentioned, you have to "customize" the Media buttons. Once you do that, pressing the Media button will display up to eight channels on the LCD, and you have the option of a second page with up to eight more. You'll tell the setup what channel number you want in each position. You can also tell it about an image for each channel and it will display those images at each channel position on the remote along with the number. Usually you will want to use the logo for each channel. Logitech's Help used to have a link to external sites that had collections of channel icons, but that seems to have disappeared. You can use a search engine and find collections of TV channel icons though, and if you have photo-editing software you can capture the icons from the channels own websites. The Prev button should tell the DVR to go back to the last channel. Sounds like you may need to tailor that button for your Activity, of train it for your DVR. But no need to waste a lot of time if you can't get it working quickly. Logitech's telephone support is excellent and very helpful. Thanks for the replies guys. I was using the downloaded software to configure the remote. It does not look like you can set up the media button here. I tried the web based configuration software and found the media set up easily. Don't now why they can't make both versions the same/similar. I checked the setting on the Prev button and it was set up correct. After I updated the remote I tried it out and it works. Go figure. strutter 09-26-07, 10:34 AM Usually you will want to use the logo for each channel. Logitech's Help used to have a link to external sites that had collections of channel icons, but that seems to have disappeared. . try here: http://squareworld.com/harmony/ and here:http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tv/a.html balpers 09-26-07, 11:38 AM Is there a way to rename activities on the LCD? I can't find a way to do this in the software. Here are some examples of the changes I want to make: I want to change "Watch PVR" to "Watch Satellite," "Watch TV" to "Watch Local TV," "Digital Music" to "Listen to SqueezeBox," etc. Burt keenan 09-26-07, 11:48 AM Is there a way to rename activities on the LCD? I can't find a way to do this in the software. Here are some examples of the changes I want to make: I want to change "Watch PVR" to "Watch Satellite," "Watch TV" to "Watch Local TV," "Digital Music" to "Listen to SqueezeBox," etc. Burt Yes, under the activity, click on Customize. There will be an option for renaming. chris0 09-26-07, 02:44 PM I was using the downloaded software to configure the remote. It does not look like you can set up the media button here.... I only use the software and I set up the media button, even added pictures. I never use it though. balpers 09-26-07, 03:01 PM Yes, under the activity, click on Customize. There will be an option for renaming. Hi Keenan, Thank you for the fast response. You gave me the hint I needed. With the latest software (7.3.2) the procedure is slightly different. The sequence is Settings|Rename [activity]. Thanks again, Burt keenan 09-26-07, 03:09 PM Hi Keenan, Thank you for the fast response. You gave me the hint I needed. With the latest software (7.3.2) the procedure is slightly different. The sequence is Settings|Rename [activity]. Thanks again, Burt Cool, I prefer the web interface myself, but whatever works. :) balpers 09-26-07, 05:08 PM Cool, I prefer the web interface myself, but whatever works. :) How do you get to the web interface? Burt TheMoose 09-26-07, 05:11 PM How do you get to the web interface? Burt Click here!! (http://members.harmonyremote.com/) balpers 09-26-07, 05:19 PM Looks interesting. I'll play with it. Thanks, Burt |