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reyalP
09-27-07, 12:56 AM
Starting activity.....please keep the remote pointed at your system. My remot is working perfectly but I would like to reduce the time limit on this activity. When I turn an activity on the Starting activity message stays on for like 10 seconds and I can't change channels or do anything till it goes away. Is there a way to reduce the time on this so it goes to the menu quicker?

thanks

hastypete
09-27-07, 03:00 AM
This may be caused by an excessiver power on delay. This delay may be necessary, but you can reduce it to see if it works.

munnz
09-27-07, 10:52 AM
Starting activity.....please keep the remote pointed at your system. My remot is working perfectly but I would like to reduce the time limit on this activity. When I turn an activity on the Starting activity message stays on for like 10 seconds and I can't change channels or do anything till it goes away. Is there a way to reduce the time on this so it goes to the menu quicker?

thanks

You can turn this off completely in remote settings.

LastButNotLeast
09-27-07, 10:19 PM
Anyone know if there is an adjustment function for the sensitivity of waking the 880 up after it went into the sleeping mode???

The remote doesn't "sleep" the way your computer does. It's always on, it just turns the backlight off. Press any button, even without moving it, and it lights up (and the button does whatever it was supposed to).
So there's nothing to "adjust."

HollandX
09-28-07, 01:33 AM
Hey all--- I just got an 880!

I had a question... Once I use the Watch PVR activity, the display on the remote gives a number of options. Like Aspect, A, B, C,Fave, PgUp, PgDown, etc.

How do I change those options to be different commands?

Thanks!

bernie33
09-28-07, 01:58 AM
Hey all--- I just got an 880!

I had a question... Once I use the Watch PVR activity, the display on the remote gives a number of options. Like Aspect, A, B, C,Fave, PgUp, PgDown, etc.

How do I change those options to be different commands?

Thanks!

Go back to the Harmony Setup. You can change everything there. But if you've told the setup your correct DVR I'm surprised it didn't set the most commonly used keys for you, and used the Harmony Page Up/Down keys, the up arrow and down arrow keys, rather than LCD keys.

If it doesn't set keys the way you like them, at the end of the setup you cna tell it that you want to make some changes and then that you want to customize things.

HollandX
09-28-07, 12:15 PM
Go back to the Harmony Setup. You can change everything there. But if you've told the setup your correct DVR I'm surprised it didn't set the most commonly used keys for you, and used the Harmony Page Up/Down keys, the up arrow and down arrow keys, rather than LCD keys.

If it doesn't set keys the way you like them, at the end of the setup you cna tell it that you want to make some changes and then that you want to customize things.

Found it! Thanks!

balpers
09-28-07, 06:45 PM
I am trying to create activities in which I want some devices ignored (i.e., left in their current states).

As far as I can tell, I have two options. One is to include irrelevant devices in the activity. This has the consequence of turning the devices on.

The second option is to leave the irrelevant devices out of the activity. This has the consequence of turning the devices off.

I want to do neither. I want the irrelevant devices left in their current states. Is this possible?

Burt

tokerblue
09-28-07, 07:13 PM
I am trying to create activities in which I want some devices ignored (i.e., left in their current states).

As far as I can tell, I have two options. One is to include irrelevant devices in the activity. This has the consequence of turning the devices on.

The second option is to leave the irrelevant devices out of the activity. This has the consequence of turning the devices off.

I want to do neither. I want the irrelevant devices left in their current states. Is this possible?

1. Click on "Settings" for the Activity you want.
2. Change Options
3. Under "Turn Off Unused Devices" select one of the two options.
- Turn Off: Turn off the devices not used by the Activity
- Leave On: Leaves unused devices on during the Activity

beekeeper
09-29-07, 06:06 AM
One thing nice about the Harmony is all those who add the codes to the database. I just bought a Visio 1080 42" set that is fairly new but it had all the functions I needed, including discrete PIP commands, already in the database. It was obvious that they came from a user as the names were not the same as the set's remote, but easily figured out and actually better, such as Aspect instead of Wide for setting the different displays. Plus, there were some that were not on the remote buttons but had to be set through the menu on the set's remote, but directly with the Harmony. Very nice work.

Whoever entered them, thanks for the effort. (I did the same with my Phillips DVDR since it was lacking commands and had some incorrect ones on the harmony site.)

The other nice thing was the transition from one TV to another, with all the dependencies, was easy. (Four units in the daisy chain and eight activities with the TV a central player in six.) In fact, it allowed me to clean up some of the things I did not like with the order of commands on the as well as trying out the new sequence commands.

Outstanding remote.

balpers
09-29-07, 12:41 PM
1. Click on "Settings" for the Activity you want.
2. Change Options
3. Under "Turn Off Unused Devices" select one of the two options.
- Turn Off: Turn off the devices not used by the Activity
- Leave On: Leaves unused devices on during the Activity

Worked like a charm. Thank you for the fast response.

I didn't expect it, but this setting has the added advantage of speeding up the response time when changing activities.

Burt

joe221
09-30-07, 01:24 AM
I'm trying to set up my 880 to now work with a Mitsubishi WD-65833 and found an issue with favorites. The Mits finds some of the channels as
###-### and the 880 can only handle 5 total numbers. Either 2-3 or 3-2 but not 3-3. :confused: Anyone else have this issue. My Sony never did this, but it did lots of other goofy things! ;)

beekeeper
09-30-07, 06:21 AM
I would like my TV to come on to channel 77.1 but in setup the decimal or dash is rejected and I need to "enter a number". I am still in the 4.xx version so does the 7.xx correct this?

draposo
09-30-07, 08:00 AM
Hi guys,

I couldn't come up with any search terms that helped me look for an answer to my problem. I have a new HDTV and the inputs are not active until the device is on and feeding it data. So when I select "Watch DVD" my TV misses the input becasue it tries switching before the DVD is active and sending a signal over HDMI1. Is there a way to change the order of the device IR and set up appropriate delays?


Thanks

Gary J
09-30-07, 08:05 AM
Hi guys,

I couldn't come up with any search terms that helped me look for an answer to my problem. I have a new HDTV and the inputs are not active until the device is on and feeding it data. So when I select "Watch DVD" my TV misses the input becasue it tries switching before the DVD is active and sending a signal over HDMI1. Is there a way to change the order of the device IR and set up appropriate delays?


ThanksYes it's in the instructions and many times in this thread.

joe221
09-30-07, 10:25 AM
I would like my TV to come on to channel 77.1 but in setup the decimal or dash is rejected and I need to "enter a number". I am still in the 4.xx version so does the 7.xx correct this?

It's been too long to remember 4, but is the "." a learned or working command. I had to teach it that for my new Mits, it wasn't there.

draposo
09-30-07, 03:32 PM
Thanks Gary ... maybe you could suggest a search term. I obviously didn't come up with one on my own or I wouldn't have posted the question.

Gary J
09-30-07, 03:59 PM
Thanks Gary ... maybe you could suggest a search term. I obviously didn't come up with one on my own or I wouldn't have posted the question.

Sure - "delay" just turned up 6 pages worth.

darman
09-30-07, 05:13 PM
I want to turn the lights on in the room when the system is powered down, using the off button. I cannot figure out how to make the lights come on only when the off button is pressed. Currently when changing between activities causes the lights to come up and then to go right back down, and they come up w/ the off button. I am trying to eliminate the between activities lights.

Thanks,
Dave

czzer
09-30-07, 07:16 PM
I want to turn the lights on in the room when the system is powered down, using the off button. I cannot figure out how to make the lights come on only when the off button is pressed. Currently when changing between activities causes the lights to come up and then to go right back down, and they come up w/ the off button. I am trying to eliminate the between activities lights.

Thanks,
Dave

You might be able to set up the light controller Power Settings with the Power On command set to "LightsOff" and the Power Off command set to "LightsOn".
Add the light controller to every activity then the lights will turn off when any activity is selected, and stay off until the Off button is pressed.

beekeeper
10-01-07, 07:26 AM
It's been too long to remember 4, but is the "." a learned or working command. I had to teach it that for my new Mits, it wasn't there.

I did teach it the decimal, but I am looking at the initial remote setup when it asks what channel a unit should start with. You can enter a channel, like 15, but will not accept a decimal channel. Probably have to order a sequence of commands.

joe221
10-01-07, 11:19 AM
I did teach it the decimal, but I am looking at the initial remote setup when it asks what channel a unit should start with. You can enter a channel, like 15, but will not accept a decimal channel. Probably have to order a sequence of commands.

I'm having a simmilar issue. I need to send 6 numbers and a dash - for some of my QAM channels. The 880 can only do 5. Bet it's the same type of issue, they restricted what could be input in the field!
I need to call them today about the charger base, I'll bring up this stuff too.

Elton Noway
10-01-07, 02:26 PM
I'm having a simmilar issue. I need to send 6 numbers and a dash - for some of my QAM channels. The 880 can only do 5.

Logitech only recently upgraded the 880 firmware (Sept 06, 2007) to enable the current 5 Steps Per Sequence capability. While doubtful, >these instructions< ( http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=programming&thread.id=5426) may help you work around your issue.

That said, while I was grateful to see Logitech roll out a new firmware release, it quickly became apparent to members of this AVS forum that 5 steps is nice... but its not enough.

I have the similar problem. My new 1080p HDTV has multiple display modes depending on the video feed format. I need to program 10 steps so my new TV and receiver will turn on and perform as needed. As newer and newer HT hardware continues to roll out, on screen programming is becoming the norm. Logictech needs to release another firmware upgrade to keep in sync with the industry.

I believe someone stated in another AVS thread that Logitech needs to try bumping the steps to 13 at a minimum. Right now I'd be happy with 10 :o

Then again... Logitech could argue the 880 has outlived its usefulness, throw in the towel, and officially withdraw all support! :eek: We can only hope they have the foresight to comprehend the impact that "thousands" of disgruntled 880 owners might have on their corporate image... as well as their market share.

SirDracula
10-01-07, 02:46 PM
It sucks that the limit is only 5 steps, I can't automate the TiVo skip 30 sec. hack :( it has 6 steps, without splitting it into 2 sequences (or a seq + OK key)

joe221
10-01-07, 02:52 PM
Logitech only recently upgraded the 880 firmware (Sept 06, 2007) to enable the current 5 Steps Per Sequence capability. While doubtful, >these instructions< ( http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=programming&thread.id=5426) may help you work around your issue.

That said, while I was grateful to see Logitech roll out a new firmware release, it quickly became apparent to members of this AVS forum that 5 steps is nice... but its not enough.

I have the similar problem. My new 1080p HDTV has multiple display modes depending on the video feed format. I need to program 10 steps so my new TV and receiver will turn on and perform as needed. As newer and newer HT hardware continues to roll out, on screen programming is becoming the norm. Logictech needs to release another firmware upgrade to keep in sync with the industry.

I believe someone stated in another AVS thread that Logitech needs to try bumping the steps to 13 at a minimum. Right now I'd be happy with 10 :o

Then again... Logitech could argue the 880 has outlived its usefulness, throw in the towel, and officially withdraw all support! :eek: We can only hope they have the foresight to comprehend the impact that "thousands" of disgruntled 880 owners might have on their corporate image... as well as their market share.

Thanks Elton, but sequencing really won't do for channel changing. I've told support about the issue, and they "know" about it. We'll see what they come up with. :confused:

blazeblaze
10-01-07, 03:08 PM
It sucks that the limit is only 5 steps, I can't automate the TiVo skip 30 sec. hack :( it has 6 steps, without splitting it into 2 sequences (or a seq + OK key)

I was having a similar issue with an option I wanted to enable on my AVR, and RAW mode would only learn a couple of the commands from the original remote inside one command. What I had to do was keep that RAW command that I had learned from the original remote and insert it into a new sequence with the missing commands. After that, everything worked great...but it would have been SO much easier if Logitech had just given us an increase in the max number of commands in a sequence.

BunLengthHotDog
10-02-07, 07:12 PM
Ordered one of these from Amazon (to replace my Harmony 360 remote, which is moving upstairs) and received it yesterday. Placed it in the charging cradle, it would beep like the charging was starting, then beep 2x and the LCD would flicker...basically going nutts until a "Please recharge your battery" eque message came up.

I opened an RMA with Logitech, whose testing revealed to them that the issue was the charging cradle (its the newest cradle part number). They stated I would receive a new cradle in 7-10 days. I went out and purchased another one from a brick and mortar store, replaced the cradle and the same thing happened.

It happend with the new cradle > old remote, new cradle > new remote. Laughing I changed the AC adaptor and the damn thing came right up and started charging. How often does an AC adaptor go bad???....sheesh, just bad luck I suppose.

It's all setup now, fully charged and works like a charm.

czzer
10-02-07, 11:17 PM
I have the similar problem. My new 1080p HDTV has multiple display modes depending on the video feed format. I need to program 10 steps so my new TV and receiver will turn on and perform as needed. As newer and newer HT hardware continues to roll out, on screen programming is becoming the norm. Logictech needs to release another firmware upgrade to keep in sync with the industry.



If you only need to send a sequence when starting an activity, or changing sources, you can do 10 (or more) steps using the Activity start sequence macro. Select "Re-do activity setup" and "I want to add more control"

ny888
10-03-07, 09:36 PM
New 880 owner here - both the wife and I love it so far.

I've set it up for my HTPC and want to know how to set it up so when I click on the Watch HTPC activity, it starts on the media center main screen. The only options I see during setup is My Pictures, My Music, etc.

joe221
10-03-07, 10:17 PM
New 880 owner here - both the wife and I love it so far.

I've set it up for my HTPC and want to know how to set it up so when I click on the Watch HTPC activity, it starts on the media center main screen. The only options I see during setup is My Pictures, My Music, etc.

Not understanding. Is this a Harmony question or MCE question?? :confused:

ny888
10-03-07, 10:38 PM
Not understanding. Is this a Harmony question or MCE question?? :confused:

It's a Harmony question. As I go through the menus in setting up the activity, I have to select the default behavior when it switches to the HTPC. I just don't see an option to start on the media center main screen. I'm forced to pick a submenu of media center like My Pictures or My Music.

For now I have to hit the back button to get to the main menu of media center after the switching of inputs is done.

joe221
10-03-07, 11:37 PM
It's a Harmony question. As I go through the menus in setting up the activity, I have to select the default behavior when it switches to the HTPC. I just don't see an option to start on the media center main screen. I'm forced to pick a submenu of media center like My Pictures or My Music.

For now I have to hit the back button to get to the main menu of media center after the switching of inputs is done.

Sorry, I'm not picturing it, hopefully someone else has your arrangement. I do something simmilar with a 360 but it goes to main screen

<><
10-04-07, 03:17 PM
hey guys, does anyone have specific setup that works well (delay etc) that work well with the following devices, i seem to be experiencing lag for my dish receiver and my audio receiver.

TV: Sony KDL-40XBR2
Dish Reciever: Vip 622
Audio Reciever: Harmon Kardon AVR-340
Media Center USB Receiver

I've played around w/ the settings but can't seem to get the right combination, so if someone has it setup to work nicely, please share your configuration for those devices.

Thank You

blazeblaze
10-04-07, 03:24 PM
hey guys, does anyone have specific setup that works well (delay etc) that work well with the following devices, i seem to be experiencing lag for my dish receiver and my audio receiver.

TV: Sony KDL-40XBR2
Dish Reciever: Vip 622
Audio Reciever: Harmon Kardon AVR-340
Media Center USB Receiver

I've played around w/ the settings but can't seem to get the right combination, so if someone has it setup to work nicely, please share your configuration for those devices.

Thank You

So, are you talking about audio lag, or are you talking about when you press a button on the harmony that there is lag between the time you press it and the time you see the command take effect?

<><
10-04-07, 03:32 PM
no, not audio lag...

the buttons don't respond as the original remotes do, for example, if i hold the volume button down for a second or two and let it go, the volume still keeps decreasing for a little while after i let it go.
For the dish receiver, while scrolling thru the guide and holding a button down and letting go, same thing, keeps scrolling after i let go.
The button response isn't as snappy as the original remotes either.

ny888,
for your issue (i have a setup where i dont' always want to launce media center but just use computer), setup your activity as a utility and you can customize it...adding whatever equipment is needed for that activity.
So for your setup, you would select your TV, Media center PC, Receiver (if you have one), set those up (it won't ask you to select a specific Movies/Music folder), then add a command to execute GreenButton on the media center after the activity. That should work.

blazeblaze
10-04-07, 03:38 PM
I have been using the Harmony on my new VIP622 for a few months now, and it seems to be as responsive as the original remote. The issue you are describing about holding down a button has been experienced by me with other equipment and the Harmony, but not the VIP622. I use the default delays on the VIP622 (never had to change them).

czzer
10-04-07, 10:33 PM
no, not audio lag...

the buttons don't respond as the original remotes do, for example, if i hold the volume button down for a second or two and let it go, the volume still keeps decreasing for a little while after i let it go.
For the dish receiver, while scrolling thru the guide and holding a button down and letting go, same thing, keeps scrolling after i let go.
The button response isn't as snappy as the original remotes either.



You need to reduce the Inter Device Delay, the Inter Key Delay, and the number of repeats. Instructions are in the sticky at the top of the page.

Reduce them all to the minimum and try it out. If something doesn't work, then increase one of them slightly. You should rarely need anything higher than 1 for repeats or 100ms for delay.

Codeman
10-05-07, 11:32 AM
It's a Harmony question. As I go through the menus in setting up the activity, I have to select the default behavior when it switches to the HTPC. I just don't see an option to start on the media center main screen. I'm forced to pick a submenu of media center like My Pictures or My Music.

For now I have to hit the back button to get to the main menu of media center after the switching of inputs is done.


There is an option to add actions at the beginning and ending of an activity. You simply need to add a beginning action (back button) to your activity. Note: the following steps are based on the Harmony website. The harmony software has the same ability, but I haven't used it in a long time, as I prefer the website's interface.

Select the activity and run the setup wizard again, keeping your previous settings as is. When you get to the review window, choose the option that says that you want to add more control of options and devices. On the device review screen, be sure your media center is shown under Devices in Use, then click save. Click through your previous settings again, until you reach a window/page that gives you an option to add actions when you enter this activity. This is where you want to add the "back button" action.

These actions can be a bit confusing. When you select an activity on the 800, the remote first sends the commands to set up that activity which the software set up for you automatically. Then, the beginning of activity commands that you manually added are then sent. At this point, you are now in that activity (watching tv, listening to the radio, etc). When you either turn everything off or change to another activity, the ending of activity actions that you added are executed first, then either everything's power off signals are sent, or the signals for the newly selected activity signals are sent.

For example, when I listen to a SACD on my DVD player, I have a beginning of activity action to change the receiver's input to the analog 5.1 inputs. I also have an end of activity action that changes the receiver's input back to the opitcal cable. When I select my Listen to SACD action, everything that was setup through the Harmony software's normal process is handled, then the signal is sent to my receiver to change to the 5.1 inputs. When I'm finished listening to a SACD, I'll either power everything down or choose another Activity. Before either of those are processed, my receiver gets a signal from the end of activity action to switch back to the optical cable connection.

Hope that helps!

ny888
10-05-07, 02:25 PM
Thanks Codeman for th detailed instructions. Will try that out.

jeff1967
10-05-07, 03:55 PM
Can someone tell me if there is a quick way to get the screens on the 880 to match between the individual device and that same device in an activity? In other words, I spent much time customizing my DVR in the individual device screen. However, when in the activity screen for that same device all the soft buttons are still default to what was generic in the database. I would like to have it match my customized screen.
Also, is there a way to change the order that the devices appear on the device screen? I would like to have my tv listed first instead of last. Please help a Harmony newbie!

jeff1967
10-05-07, 03:57 PM
Forgot to mention I love the 880 so far! It rocks!

czzer
10-05-07, 09:42 PM
Can someone tell me if there is a quick way to get the screens on the 880 to match between the individual device and that same device in an activity? In other words, I spent much time customizing my DVR in the individual device screen. However, when in the activity screen for that same device all the soft buttons are still default to what was generic in the database. I would like to have it match my customized screen.
Also, is there a way to change the order that the devices appear on the device screen? I would like to have my tv listed first instead of last. Please help a Harmony newbie!

The Harmony is an ACTIVITY based remote, and is designed to be used almost exclusively in activity mode. You should spend the time customizing your Activity screens and forget about devices as they should rarely be needed.
For the same reason, you can't change the Device order.

tb311
10-05-07, 10:51 PM
Ok has anyone used the 890 with a Pioneer VSX-92TXH or similar? The thing the the VSX is that to switch between HDMI inputs you have to cycle through them by pressing the HDMI input button, but each input has a dedicated button. For example if your on TV and you want to switch to HDMI 3 you can either cycle through all the inputs or press the HDMI button 3 times, once to get you to hdmi 1 and 2 more to cycle to hdmi 3. Now on to my problem. I have my satellite box connected to HDMI 1 and DVD to HDMI 2 but for some reason I cant get the dish to work right when I choose the "Watch TV" activity. Everything turns on and the input on the reciever is set to HDMI 1 which is correct but then a few seconds later it changes inputs to TV. It seems like theres a rouge ir code been sent out after everything is set. I checked the list of commands under watch TV and theres nothing that shouldnt be there. Is there anything you guys could suggest?

czzer
10-06-07, 12:27 AM
Ok has anyone used the 890 with a Pioneer VSX-92TXH or similar? The thing the the VSX is that to switch between HDMI inputs you have to cycle through them by pressing the HDMI input button, but each input has a dedicated button. For example if your on TV and you want to switch to HDMI 3 you can either cycle through all the inputs or press the HDMI button 3 times, once to get you to hdmi 1 and 2 more to cycle to hdmi 3. Now on to my problem. I have my satellite box connected to HDMI 1 and DVD to HDMI 2 but for some reason I cant get the dish to work right when I choose the "Watch TV" activity. Everything turns on and the input on the reciever is set to HDMI 1 which is correct but then a few seconds later it changes inputs to TV. It seems like theres a rouge ir code been sent out after everything is set. I checked the list of commands under watch TV and theres nothing that shouldnt be there. Is there anything you guys could suggest?

I had a similar problem recently with a new TV I bought. There was an error in device profile that I couldn't fix. I called tech support and they fixed the device profile at their end.

Make sure you phone tech support, don't email them.

tigerkn
10-06-07, 03:19 AM
More sequence funs:
Turn OPPO light off completely for watching movie late at night time.
It takes 10 keys to complete this task with OPPO remote control so I created 2 sequences and assign them to two button on 880 (each button run 5 keys).
Love it.

Please share you fun sequence set-up idea, here is mine:

Super Fast Forward:
PVR - Fast Forward
PVR - Fast Forward
PVR - Fast Forward
PVR - Fast Forward

Change the FF "Skip" key to Super FF and do the same thing for the Rewind. I love to use these sequences to FF or Rewind full speed while watching recorded materials instead of press the FF key 4 times.

Yuss
10-06-07, 08:10 AM
Thanks Codeman for th detailed instructions. Will try that out.

I use my Xbox 360 as my Media Center Extender. I've added a device to the 880 called "Microsoft HD-DVD -MediaCenter". One of the available key choices that come with the device is called "Home" (other options are My TV, My Music, etc.).
When I set up my activity, I ask that the MediaCenter "input or channel" is set to "Home" and it takes me to the main page.

I have to set the Power Options for the Media Center to be "always on". If I don't do that, then the Harmony tries to turn off the Xbox.

I also had to customize the delay, and add a longer delay before the remote changes the MediaCenter input to Home. This gives my Xbox time to turn on.

joe221
10-06-07, 03:53 PM
I use my Xbox 360 as my Media Center Extender. I've added a device to the 880 called "Microsoft HD-DVD -MediaCenter". One of the available key choices that come with the device is called "Home" (other options are My TV, My Music, etc.).
When I set up my activity, I ask that the MediaCenter "input or channel" is set to "Home" and it takes me to the main page.

I have to set the Power Options for the Media Center to be "always on". If I don't do that, then the Harmony tries to turn off the Xbox.

I also had to customize the delay, and add a longer delay before the remote changes the MediaCenter input to Home. This gives my Xbox time to turn on.

In my settings I just have the 360 as a device, and it has all the Media Center control I need. Also, I leave it on and turn it on and off manually. I found that easier. Sometime the turn on command missed, no matter what I did so I worked around it.
The only thing I wonder is did you find a discrete open command for the HDDVD drive? I don't think one exists. :confused:

builder j
10-07-07, 12:06 AM
I apologize for rehashing this issue if it had been previously discussed, but I didn't see anything previously posted.

I just purchased an 880, and I can't seem to get it out of the "Charge Remote First" mode, even though I have fully charged the battery and gone through the entire setup process (according to the packaged instructions). What can I do about this?

joe221
10-07-07, 12:42 AM
I apologize for rehashing this issue if it had been previously discussed, but I didn't see anything previously posted.

I just purchased an 880, and I can't seem to get it out of the "Charge Remote First" mode, even though I have fully charged the battery and gone through the entire setup process (according to the packaged instructions). What can I do about this?

If no on else knows a trick, call Harmony on Monday.

TimV
10-07-07, 02:49 AM
I'm using the Harmony 880 to control my Denon AVR-5700 reciever. I am wondering if there is any way to program custom buttons on the remote to adjust the volume in increments greater than one.

In other words, I want to be able to press one button and have the volume go up or down by 5 or 10 increments. Is this possible on this remote? Thanks.

blazeblaze
10-07-07, 04:10 AM
I'm using the Harmony 880 to control my Denon AVR-5700 reciever. I am wondering if there is any way to program custom buttons on the remote to adjust the volume in increments greater than one.

In other words, I want to be able to press one button and have the volume go up or down by 5 or 10 increments. Is this possible on this remote? Thanks.

Try using the new Sequence feature to add 5 volume key presses into one button. If that is not enough, you can always try learning a bunch of the key presses in RAW mode. On my ole' Denon AVR-3802, when I hold down the volume button for about a half second or more the volume changes VERY quickly...but if I just tap it, it changes one notch at a time. Just something to be aware of if yours does this too.

Yuss
10-07-07, 11:51 AM
In my settings I just have the 360 as a device, and it has all the Media Center control I need. Also, I leave it on and turn it on and off manually. I found that easier. Sometime the turn on command missed, no matter what I did so I worked around it.
The only thing I wonder is did you find a discrete open command for the HDDVD drive? I don't think one exists. :confused:

You are right, the Xbox device setting has all the "Media Center" options you need. I don't have any problems with the Harmony turning the 360 off and on. The power delay is set at 1500, which is the default. It works well for me. Maybe you can try adjusting that setting. It must be a pain turning it off and on manually.
I don't think that the HD-DVD has a eject command. I (unfortunately) sent my HD remote back with a previous 360 that had the RRoD. and despite my efforts to get it back I failed. Does the media center remote have an eject button for the HD DVD? From what I remember, the remote only opened and closed the drive on the 360.
Now that I think about it, the one reason I added the Microsoft HD device, was to try to get the eject working (but it doesn't).

joe221
10-07-07, 02:42 PM
You are right, the Xbox device setting has all the "Media Center" options you need. I don't have any problems with the Harmony turning the 360 off and on. The power delay is set at 1500, which is the default. It works well for me. Maybe you can try adjusting that setting. It must be a pain turning it off and on manually.
I don't think that the HD-DVD has a eject command. I (unfortunately) sent my HD remote back with a previous 360 that had the RRoD. and despite my efforts to get it back I failed. Does the media center remote have an eject button for the HD DVD? From what I remember, the remote only opened and closed the drive on the 360.
Now that I think about it, the one reason I added the Microsoft HD device, was to try to get the eject working (but it doesn't).

Actually I now prefer to manually turn the 360 on and off. Sometimes I want to go straight to MCE and other times I want to play games. So instead of two activities I just chose how to turn it on. Power or MediaCenter. Works for me! :D And AFAIK there is no discrete open for the add on and the remote didn't have one either.

blazeblaze
10-07-07, 05:17 PM
Does the media center remote have an eject button for the HD DVD?

The white remote that came with my Xbox 360 external HD-DVD drive does not have an eject button for the HD-DVD drive on it. The only eject button it has seems to work on the internal DVD drive. I had never actually even put batteries in the remote until this afternoon to answer your question, since I have used the Harmony 880 ever since I purchased the Xbox 360 & HD-DVD drive.

rturner
10-07-07, 06:29 PM
I've had my 890 for 2 months and LOVE it.One key I've never seen mentioned is the "PREV" key located to the right of the "MEDIA" key. I cannot determine how to program it and have a use for it in my Tivo setup. It presently has no function in any of my activities. I have searched but not called Harmony.
rturner--thanks

joe221
10-07-07, 07:45 PM
I've had my 890 for 2 months and LOVE it.One key I've never seen mentioned is the "PREV" key located to the right of the "MEDIA" key. I cannot determine how to program it and have a use for it in my Tivo setup. It presently has no function in any of my activities. I have searched but not called Harmony.
rturner--thanks

It generally takes on the function of "last channel" on devices that have the ability to bounce back to a previous channel.

paul172
10-08-07, 12:33 PM
I have a simple setup (DVR, DVD, AVR, TV) and all I do is have every device included in every activity (DVD is on during Watch TV Activity, etc...) When I press the Remote's OFF button, everything gets turned off. I like having all th edevices on for quick switching of activites, no waiting for device startup.

On the other hand, if you only use the devices you only use the devices you need in the activiry (the rest are already off) then pressing the off button will turn off the "in-use" devices, leaving everything off (except the DVR which stays on for recording). Make sure your activities are setup correctly as previously stated.

I have a philips dvdr 3575. Its defined a always on in the harmony device setup. The problem is that when it completes a timed recording during the night, it automatically shuts it self off. When I go to watch dvdr activity using the harmony, it doesn't turn it on. If I set the activity to power it on, it will shut it off. How can I fix it?

joe221
10-08-07, 01:08 PM
I have a philips dvdr 3575. Its defined a always on in the harmony device setup. The problem is that when it completes a timed recording during the night, it automatically shuts it self off. When I go to watch dvdr activity using the harmony, it doesn't turn it on. If I set the activity to power it on, it will shut it off. How can I fix it?

You really can't unless there is a discrete Power On command. The Harmony is assuming it's on. Can't you tell the device NOT to turn off after an event? If you can't and it has the discrete on, send that command before you enter the device on an Activity.

biglars57
10-08-07, 03:31 PM
Here's my story - I bought my 880 on line in May of 06. I have loved the remote but eventually I had charging problems. I called in and waited for close to an hour and a gal finally came on and after I gave her the serial numbers off of my remote and cradle she told me that her records showed that someone had originally bought it at Best Buy in 05. Best Buy must sell returned units to on line sellers. After determining that there would be no replacements I decided to try a fix myself. Well here is how I fixed the problem:

The problem with my remote is that the gold plating on the remote and cradle connections wears off and the dark metal underneath is not conductive. I took a soldering iron and with a dab of flux on each pin I put a little ball of solder on each connector, and when I put things back together it's charging like a banshee.

Why can't they just say that the problem was in the coating - not the cradle??

biglsar57

hastypete
10-08-07, 04:04 PM
If I set the activity to power it on, it will shut it off. How can I fix it?

I've taken to putting a "power on" button on the soft screen for each activity for the "main" device, because the kids are always turning stuff off without the remote.

that would be a work around for you. then you just click it on in the soft screen if it's off.

hastypete
10-08-07, 04:09 PM
The problem with my remote is that the gold plating on the remote and cradle connections wears off and the dark metal underneath is not conductive. I took a soldering iron and with a dab of flux on each pin I put a little ball of solder on each connector, and when I put things back together it's charging like a banshee.

Why can't they just say that the problem was in the coating - not the cradle??

biglsar57

I have had problems since day 2. the coating is not the problem with mine. It is that there is absolutely no pressure between the contacts. I'm sure it will be much worse when the gold coating wears off. The solder balls won't have much better conductivity that the bare metal, but it must have better pressure. Let us know how it works after some use.

joe221
10-08-07, 04:29 PM
I have to say, I like Harmony! They are something else. :D
I called last week about my almost 2 year old 880 and the charging base issues. I got switched to a level 2 tech who asked more questions about the remote itself. I have chips and cloudiness on the 3 brass connectors on the bottom. He said it was doomed to further failure. I figured he'd switch me to get a refurb sent to me at a fee. Instead he just said the warranty division would contact me about my problem and they're always fair about cost. I said OK, I'll wait. A few hours later an email arrived notifying me a replacement 880 was on the way and to send back the bad parts minus and cables and paper work etc. :eek: No charge?!? WOW!!! Today DHL brought a BRAND NEW 880! Again WOW!!! :eek: I'm way out of warranty and was fully prepared to have to buy a new base or something like that! This is way above and beyond what I expected and am so glad I'm a Logitec/Harmony customer!

By the way. The base is definitely different than my previous ones. It is heavier and has only 2 brass contacts. The outer two. The center on is a plastic circle and seems to do nothing. The shape and look is the same.

biglars57
10-08-07, 05:49 PM
Joe221 - congrats on the new unit. As far as the charging problems go - I'm curious to hear from those who only received a new charging cradle. The gold plating that corroded and failed on mine was on the charging unit and the remote. So even with a new charging cradle the plating would wear off of the remote also. I personally think there is a class action suit that they want to avoid.

biglars57 - aka Dan Ward, Prior Lake Minnesota - if any Harmony reps read this.

biglars57
10-08-07, 06:35 PM
FYI - When I mentioned I bought my unit on line, it was from an on line retailer, not from an individual on ebay or anything similar. So Best Buy sent the unit I bought as new to someone somewhere. This smells funny in more ways than one!

I think it is a wonderful remote with a seriously flawed charging system. Joe221 - why do you think they replaced the charger and remote?? It's because the old design will not last!

grimholtz
10-08-07, 07:24 PM
Hi,

I have a Harmony 890 and am trying to program the wireless extender to control a Windows XP PC for video playback. I have a USB IR receiver--brand unknown. When I plug it into the XP machine, it appears as "Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver" in DeviceManager and I can successfully navigate through applications with the supplied remote (not Harmony) as if I were using a keyboard. Trying to get the Harmony to emulate this, I create a new computer device and when prompted with:

Place your original remote about 2 inches from the bottom of the Logitech Harmony remote control and press the 'PowerToggle' button. If the infrared signal is poor, move the remotes further apart. Wait at least one second between button presses.

Nothing happens. The Harmony works fine controlling my other equipment, but it cannot learn commands from other remotes. I've tried with 3 different remotes, and the Harmony doesn't detect any of them.

What am I doing wrong?

Help greatly appreciated,
grimholtz

MegaHurtz83
10-08-07, 07:58 PM
Hi,

I have a Harmony 890 and am trying to program the wireless extender to control a Windows XP PC for video playback. I have a USB IR receiver--brand unknown. When I plug it into the XP machine, it appears as "Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver" in DeviceManager and I can successfully navigate through applications with the supplied remote (not Harmony) as if I were using a keyboard. Trying to get the Harmony to emulate this, I create a new computer device and when prompted with:



Nothing happens. The Harmony works fine controlling my other equipment, but it cannot learn commands from other remotes. I've tried with 3 different remotes, and the Harmony doesn't detect any of them.

What am I doing wrong?

Help greatly appreciated,
grimholtz
I couldn't imagine... I am assuming that you have the remote plugged in via USB. You should see the IR receiver at the bottom of the Harmony.

grimholtz
10-08-07, 08:14 PM
I couldn't imagine... I am assuming that you have the remote plugged in via USB. You should see the IR receiver at the bottom of the Harmony.

Absolutely have the Harmony plugged in. I can perform updates to it. The only feature that doesn't appear to work is IR learning. What do you mean by "You should see the IR receiver at the bottom of the Harmony"? Is there some icon that the Harmony displays during the learning process?

MegaHurtz83
10-08-07, 08:20 PM
I don't know about any icon. I am referring to the actual IR receiver that is the bottom of the Harmony remote. Every time I've had to learn a code on my 880 I've pointed the remote at the little receiver on the bottom of the Harmony. I am assuming the 890 is the same as my 880.

grimholtz
10-08-07, 08:25 PM
OK, sorry, I misunderstood. Another (related) question, then. What's the difference between device types "Computer", "Laptop", and "Media Center PC"? Why aren't these three devices types just a single type... "computer"?

thank you,
grimholtz

joe221
10-08-07, 08:49 PM
FYI - When I mentioned I bought my unit on line, it was from an on line retailer, not from an individual on ebay or anything similar. So Best Buy sent the unit I bought as new to someone somewhere. This smells funny in more ways than one!

I think it is a wonderful remote with a seriously flawed charging system. Joe221 - why do you think they replaced the charger and remote?? It's because the old design will not last!

And they took care of the problem. So kudos to them. Your issue is with BestBuy or insist on a higher level customer care rep. If you bought a new item, was it sealed? They all come sealed.

derrikm
10-08-07, 08:52 PM
If infrared capability is not a consideration, is the 880 the best choice for a qualty IR remote?

I only have 4 components to control, and don't foresee adding any more in the near future. I am mainly concerned with ease of use, straigtforward programing and screen readability.

Any and all comments or suggestion would be appreciated.

DerrikM

biglars57
10-08-07, 09:23 PM
joe221- It came in the new box, looked new and worked great for a year. I'm guessing every remote that was made with the three point coated connections like mine will quit charging within two years. Again I'm curious to hear from anyone who received only a replacement cradle. I've spent over 2 hours waiting for and then talking to level 2 technicians at Harmony. They were very cordial, but they could have just told me the coating was wearing off and can't be fixed. And actually the third time I called in they didn't have record of the first call. I'm glad they did right by you.

I'm guessing they figured I bought the unit on Ebay, so they were brushing me off. But in the end they designed a defective unit and should have made it right.I would like to find out how the remote went from Best Buy to the on line retailer, which I agree is where I have a beef, but quite frankly I've wasted enough time on this.

The fixes like putting tape simply adjusted the position of the remote so areas of plating that hadn't worn off would make contact.

In the end Harmony has known what the problem is and could have told me and saved me a lot of time.

blazeblaze
10-08-07, 09:35 PM
If infrared capability is not a consideration, is the 880 the best choice for a qualty IR remote?

I only have 4 components to control, and don't foresee adding any more in the near future. I am mainly concerned with ease of use, straigtforward programing and screen readability.

Any and all comments or suggestion would be appreciated.

DerrikM

Derrikm,

There are several different models of the Harmony remotes that cost less than the 880. I would go pick one that you like the look and feel of, and it will be able to do all the stuff that the 880 does. I really love my 880, but some people have reported that they don't like how it fits in their hand or they don't like the feel of the buttons...so I think it just comes down to personal preference.

HollandX
10-09-07, 01:40 AM
Question.

I'm trying to program a sequence on my Harmony 880 that will turn my overscan on and off at my whim.

Unfortunately, the overscan option is buried in a second menu on my plasma.

So I would need like 8 commands to get it to toggle. Unfortuantely, the remote can only hold up to 4 commands for a custom sequence.

Is there any way around this?

I basically have to click menu, down, enter, up, enter, up, right, enter, exit.

Is there anyway I can program that into my remote? There is no overscan button preprogrammed in the harmony according to the list of button options I have to choose from.

:(

Thanks!

blazeblaze
10-09-07, 02:14 AM
So I would need like 8 commands to get it to toggle. Unfortuantely, the remote can only hold up to 4 commands for a custom sequence.

Is there any way around this?

I basically have to click menu, down, enter, up, enter, up, right, enter, exit.

Is there anyway I can program that into my remote? There is no overscan button preprogrammed in the harmony according to the list of button options I have to choose from.

Try learning the key sequence via RAW mode. I have successfully recorded a similar sequence on some devices, while not being able to do it on other devices...so your mileage may vary.

balpers
10-09-07, 09:42 AM
Try learning the key sequence via RAW mode. I have successfully recorded a similar sequence on some devices, while not being able to do it on other devices...so your mileage may vary.

I keep seeing references to RAW mode and it sounds like something that would be useful to me. Can you explain what this is or point me to a source?

Thanks,

Burt

strutter
10-09-07, 10:02 AM
.I would like to find out how the remote went from Best Buy to the on line retailer,.

i'm sure everyone here would love to know who the online retailer was. if you dont mind telling us.

blazeblaze
10-09-07, 10:26 AM
I keep seeing references to RAW mode and it sounds like something that would be useful to me. Can you explain what this is or point me to a source?

Thanks,

Burt

I believe when you are learning a button, there is a CUSTOM option at the bottom. This should take you to the area in which you can learn the sequence in RAW mode. If you need more info, try searching this thread for it...as it has been discussed several times in the past.

JayMan007
10-09-07, 10:29 AM
It generally takes on the function of "last channel" on devices that have the ability to bounce back to a previous channel.

With my DVR, it also acts as the "Last" button in the menu system... basically a page back, or previous page.

grimholtz
10-09-07, 10:38 AM
Anyone know the difference between "computer", "laptop", and "media center pc" when defining a new device?

HollandX
10-09-07, 03:22 PM
Try learning the key sequence via RAW mode. I have successfully recorded a similar sequence on some devices, while not being able to do it on other devices...so your mileage may vary.

I saw the custom page where you can teach it raw commands. But, how do you teach it more than one raw command to come out as a sequence of commands?

Does that make sense?

Like I understand how to assign one button to equal one button. But I don't understand how to assign one button to equal 8 buttons in raw.

Thanks...

4theheelz
10-09-07, 03:31 PM
a couple of newbie questions as i just ordered my 880 today:
1. my previous remote permitted me to program a number of keystokes to establish a macro activated by one button press. as i understand it, the 880 lets you do the same thing as an "Activity". is there a limit to the number of keystroke instructions to an activity.

Is there a limit to the the number of custom activities that one can program?

2. can you program a key or keys to "open/close" the DVD and "eject" on the VCR?

3. if you "learn" a command from another remote, is that learned command global or specific to a given device? thanks.

ny888
10-09-07, 03:43 PM
I would love to be able to reboot my HTPC with one button on the 880.

blazeblaze
10-09-07, 03:45 PM
I saw the custom page where you can teach it raw commands. But, how do you teach it more than one raw command to come out as a sequence of commands?

Does that make sense?

Like I understand how to assign one button to equal one button. But I don't understand how to assign one button to equal 8 buttons in raw.

Thanks...

While it is learning the RAW command, you have to press the entire button sequence on the original remote and hope that it recorded it all.

HollandX
10-09-07, 04:03 PM
While it is learning the RAW command, you have to press the entire button sequence on the original remote and hope that it recorded it all.

Hope and pray!!

I'll try it tonight and let you know... Thanks!

blazeblaze
10-09-07, 04:36 PM
Hope and pray!!

I'll try it tonight and let you know... Thanks!

If for some reason you can only get half of your key sequence learned in one RAW command...you can always learn the two halves (or whatever) in separate RAW commands, then bind them together in a Sequence. I've had to do this before too.

frederixx
10-09-07, 10:15 PM
hi,

anyone can tell me the best deal in Canada for that Harmony 880 remote?

thank you

tigerkn
10-09-07, 11:42 PM
Anyone know if 880 can control Squeeze Box?

Xcessiv
10-10-07, 08:07 AM
I bought two 880s around 11 months ago for me and my mom.

After 8 months of use, my "volume up" button stopped working 50% of the time. All other buttons were working 100% of the time so this was obviously not a signal config problem.

My mom gave me a call this week (after 11 months of use), saying that one of her activity buttons was working less than 25% of the time. I'll have to return it.

Wow! This really worries me. If this happens again after the warranty period I'm screwed.

balpers
10-10-07, 09:39 AM
Anyone know if 880 can control Squeeze Box?

Yes. It's in the database. It's labeled Slimserver. All functions work.

Burt

jschen
10-10-07, 10:31 AM
I bought two 880s around 11 months ago for me and my mom.

After 8 months of use, my "volume up" button stopped working 50% of the time. All other buttons were working 100% of the time so this was obviously not a signal config problem.

My mom gave me a call this week (after 11 months of use), saying that one of her activity buttons was working less than 25% of the time. I'll have to return it.

Wow! This really worries me. If this happens again after the warranty period I'm screwed.

I had this same problem with my volume up button. I had to press the button harder than the other buttons to get the volume to go up. I called a Logitech CSR and he said I was out of warranty and would have to call back since the Level 2 CSRs aren't open yet. Instead of waiting to be most likely denied because of warranty I decided to see if I could fix the problem myself.

I took out the battery and removed the two screws on the top and bottom of the remote. Additional to the screws the remote has about 6 places where it snaps into place. I had to use a screw driver to wedge inbetween where the remote is put together to unsnap the top and bottom parts. I then put a dab of hot glue on the volume up button and put the remote back together. Now the button works as it should.

I hope this helps.

citico
10-11-07, 12:49 PM
I had this same problem with my volume up button. I had to press the button harder than the other buttons to get the volume to go up. I called a Logitech CSR and he said I was out of warranty and would have to call back since the Level 2 CSRs aren't open yet. Instead of waiting to be most likely denied because of warranty I decided to see if I could fix the problem myself.

I took out the battery and removed the two screws on the top and bottom of the remote. Additional to the screws the remote has about 6 places where it snaps into place. I had to use a screw driver to wedge inbetween where the remote is put together to unsnap the top and bottom parts. I then put a dab of hot glue on the volume up button and put the remote back together. Now the button works as it should.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for posting the "fix" for the vol up button. You saved me some money as I was about to throw the 880 in the garbage can and go get another one.
Now all is well.

Djoel
10-12-07, 10:11 PM
I am sorry if this has been asked before I've looked couldn't find any thing , but does the 880 control a Velodyne SMS 1 EQ ? Would like to put that remote away as well , instead of double fistting remotes.:)


Djoel

Rhino5167
10-12-07, 10:17 PM
I just bought my first HD TV and I was looking to get a universal remote....I have read good and bad reviews about this remote...I am hoping to get some pros/cons of this remote form owners....do you suggest this one? Another Harmony unit?? I will have an upcovert DVD, receiver, Xbox 360 as well as the TV...if this helps at all thanks

-Rob

bronxkid
10-13-07, 02:01 AM
So anyone use the nyko bluwave to program the 880 to work with PS3? Just curious how well it works.

sotx66
10-13-07, 12:38 PM
I'm having a problem with the volume control using Directv HR20-100 & Toshiba TV.
On start of activity "watch pvr" volume control works fine but once I push "LIST" button to see recorded programs the volume control stops working until I turn off TV & DVR. It just started doing this in the last 3 or 4 days. It used to work fine.

citico
10-13-07, 12:58 PM
I'm having a problem with the volume control using Directv HR20-100 & Toshiba TV.
On start of activity "watch pvr" volume control works fine but once I push "LIST" button to see recorded programs the volume control stops working until I turn off TV & DVR. It just started doing this in the last 3 or 4 days. It used to work fine.

This sounds like a problem with the DVR instead of the 880. Have you tried a hard reboot of the DVR(pulling power cord)? This might help especially if Direct has downloaded new SW within the 3-4 day time frame.

destefpr
10-13-07, 01:30 PM
Is there a way to make Sequence commands available to all Activities? I am currently typing in the same sequence commands into several activities i.e four identical Super FF sequences for my four PVR activities.

Is there a way to just have a master sequence database that is available to all activities?

Djoel
10-13-07, 04:43 PM
I am sorry for my ignorance but can I teach my 880 the SMS 1 control ?

Thanks


Djoel

brian32672
10-13-07, 04:48 PM
The SMS 1 is already in Harmony's database.
Add device - Receiver - Velodyne - SMS 1 (type in the SMS 1, the buttons it adds are correct)
Done.

And yes, I know the SMS 1 is not a receiver.;):p

Djoel
10-13-07, 05:38 PM
The SMS 1 is already in Harmony's database.
Add device - Receiver - Velodyne - SMS 1 (type in the SMS 1, the buttons it adds are correct)
Done.

And yes, I know the SMS 1 is not a receiver.;):p


Kool & da gang.....I running to their database right now....Thanks:)


Djoel

tokerblue
10-15-07, 12:25 PM
Is there a way to make Sequence commands available to all Activities? I am currently typing in the same sequence commands into several activities i.e four identical Super FF sequences for my four PVR activities.

Is there a way to just have a master sequence database that is available to all activities?

Not currently. You have to program each Sequence for each Activity.

bernie33
10-15-07, 01:59 PM
I just bought my first HD TV and I was looking to get a universal remote....I have read good and bad reviews about this remote...I am hoping to get some pros/cons of this remote form owners....do you suggest this one? Another Harmony unit?? I will have an upcovert DVD, receiver, Xbox 360 as well as the TV...if this helps at all thanks

-Rob

This remote is fantastic! We have one, three of our relatives have one. We all love them and recommend them highly. In my case I use it with an HDTV, DVD player/sound system, VCR, cable DVR. One button turns everything on or off, and the remote always controls everything properly.

We have friends who were going to stop using their Tivo because of the number of remotes they had to use with their HDTV, Tivo, satellite box, audio system, DVD player. They got a Harmony and now all is well and they're very happy.

Harmony phone support is outstanding too. You can get a lot of helpful advice here, but frankly I am surprised at the number of people who ask for help either instead of calling Logitech and and resolving their problem/question interactively in real time with a real person's voice at the other end of the line.

Go for it!
Bernie

bernie33
10-15-07, 02:24 PM
a couple of newbie questions as i just ordered my 880 today:
1. my previous remote permitted me to program a number of keystokes to establish a macro activated by one button press. as i understand it, the 880 lets you do the same thing as an "Activity". is there a limit to the number of keystroke instructions to an activity.

You may not have quite the right understanding of a Harmony Activity. Best to think of an Activity as a custom remote that already knows about all of your equipment and which devices are needed to watch cable/satellite, or to watch a DVD, or to watch TV without cable/satellite, or to listen to music, or to use a video game device, or to use a VCR.

The software and website will guide you through identifying your equipment and specifying which devices are used for which activities. In most cases the only thing you will need to do after the setup is to enjoy the remote. In some cases you may need to do some additional tinkering with the settings to get things working exactly the right way for some Activity. The online setup will let you do that too. And if you still need assistance the Harmony telephone support is outstanding!

Is there a limit to the the number of custom activities that one can program?

I think you are limited to two pages of Activities, with 8 Activities per page. But I have a hard time thinking of even eight Activities. In my case I have:

"Watch DVR" which means anything live or recorded using the cable box.
"Watch DVD"
"Watch TV" ignoring the cable company box (using my cablecard)
"Listen to radio"
"Listen to CD"
"Wii"
"Play VCR"
"System Options" which the software includes automatically and lets you reset the time in the remote. That time is only used to display the time to you on the LCD screen in the remote, not for anything else.

Some of those Activity names are the ones suggested automatically by the Harmony setup software, some are names I picked because they make the most sense in our environment. The Harmony software knew that my surround sound system includes a radio and the ability to play CD's and DVD's and so it set up those activities automatically although we never use our system for radio or CD's.

2. can you program a key or keys to "open/close" the DVD and "eject" on the VCR?

Yes.

The Harmony has a Device key that lets you perform any of the less common functions of your original remote for each of your devices. In my case, I also placed the Eject function on the main LCD softkey screen for the "Watch DVD" Activity, and I labeled that function "Open" rather than Eject.

3. if you "learn" a command from another remote, is that learned command global or specific to a given device? thanks.
It will apply to the device that the original remote was controlling.

Bernie

grimholtz
10-15-07, 02:31 PM
Hi,

What device should I choose if I want to control my Windows Media Center PC with the 880? (I already have an IR receiver on the PC).

Has anyone done this? I'm not getting any help on the logitech forums about this.

jimmyjamesinc
10-15-07, 03:42 PM
Can the 880 scroll through a playlist on media player on it's little lcd screen? ie. if i had an extender (or went with the 890 with rf) could i see the song list on the remote if i'm in another room?

joe221
10-15-07, 03:56 PM
Hi,

What device should I choose if I want to control my Windows Media Center PC with the 880? (I already have an IR receiver on the PC).

Has anyone done this? I'm not getting any help on the logitech forums about this.

I think Media Center PC is in there, if not XBox 360 will give all the needed commands.

xmltok
10-15-07, 04:13 PM
Thanks for posting the "fix" for the vol up button. You saved me some money as I was about to throw the 880 in the garbage can and go get another one.
Now all is well.

Did this work out for you too? I don't have a glue gun so I put a couple of pieces of tape on the button to raise it a bit, but its not making much of a difference.

grimholtz
10-15-07, 05:02 PM
I think Media Center PC is in there, if not XBox 360 will give all the needed commands.

Thanks. The PC doesn't respond to the Harmony when I specify those devices, but it does respond to the original remote. What should I do? Teach it the original remote control or is there an alternative?

Thank you,
grimholtz

citico
10-15-07, 05:34 PM
Did this work out for you too? I don't have a glue gun so I put a couple of pieces of tape on the button to raise it a bit, but its not making much of a difference.

Yes, it worked for me but I don't have a glue gun either. You know the black template(plastic) strip inside the cover. It was positioned in such a manner that it was keeping the vol up button from pushing in without pushing real hard. I cut the template around the vol up out with a razor blade. Also take your finger and push the button on the other half of the remote and be sure it is clicking.The button the vol up pushes. The mute button is close by. Don't get them confused. You can check the vol up button by inserting the battery and just using the bottom half of the remote to check the vol up button to be sure it will function when the vol up button on the top half is pushed.Use your finger and see if it works on the TV or AVR.

joe221
10-15-07, 10:46 PM
Thanks. The PC doesn't respond to the Harmony when I specify those devices, but it does respond to the original remote. What should I do? Teach it the original remote control or is there an alternative?

Thank you,
grimholtz

Yup, teach it from the remote. It is IR, right?

bernie33
10-16-07, 12:49 AM
Can the 880 scroll through a playlist on media player on it's little lcd screen? ie. if i had an extender (or went with the 890 with rf) could i see the song list on the remote if i'm in another room?

The remote is neither receiving nor storing the names of your files or playlists. It is sending signals to control your playback devices.

realjag
10-16-07, 07:55 AM
Hi all. I just wanted to drop in now that I'm a new member of the Harmony 880 club. The wife gave it to me as an early bday present last night and this thing rocks!

We have been using 5 remotes all lined up on a side table. If we simply wanted to watch cable I would have to turn on 3 components but then possibly change the input and the source to what we needed. It was a real pain.

Now I have this great remote and within an hour I had an activity setup to turn it all on and set the inputs correctly. I don't know how we did without it.

I only have 2 small complaints. The setup wizard can be somewhat confusing and it also refused to control my dish 811 until I taught it the commands.

Other than that this remote is simply the best. This is the best bday present ever.

4theheelz
10-16-07, 03:29 PM
You may not have quite the right understanding of a Harmony Activity. Best to think of an Activity as a custom remote that already knows about all of your equipment and which devices are needed to watch cable/satellite, or to watch a DVD, or to watch TV without cable/satellite, or to listen to music, or to use a video game device, or to use a VCR.

The software and website will guide you through identifying your equipment and specifying which devices are used for which activities. In most cases the only thing you will need to do after the setup is to enjoy the remote. In some cases you may need to do some additional tinkering with the settings to get things working exactly the right way for some Activity. The online setup will let you do that too. And if you still need assistance the Harmony telephone support is outstanding!

I think you are limited to two pages of Activities, with 8 Activities per page. But I have a hard time thinking of even eight Activities. In my case I have:

"Watch DVR" which means anything live or recorded using the cable box.
"Watch DVD"
"Watch TV" ignoring the cable company box (using my cablecard)
"Listen to radio"
"Listen to CD"
"Wii"
"Play VCR"
"System Options" which the software includes automatically and lets you reset the time in the remote. That time is only used to display the time to you on the LCD screen in the remote, not for anything else.

Some of those Activity names are the ones suggested automatically by the Harmony setup software, some are names I picked because they make the most sense in our environment. The Harmony software knew that my surround sound system includes a radio and the ability to play CD's and DVD's and so it set up those activities automatically although we never use our system for radio or CD's.

Yes.

The Harmony has a Device key that lets you perform any of the less common functions of your original remote for each of your devices. In my case, I also placed the Eject function on the main LCD softkey screen for the "Watch DVD" Activity, and I labeled that function "Open" rather than Eject.

It will apply to the device that the original remote was controlling.

Bernie

Thanks for the info. I am almost finished with the setup. I used the "sequence" procedure in the "activity" mode to eliminate some repetitive strokes-the only drawback to that is there is a limit of 10 sequences per activity. (I have an old satellite dish and it has to be positioned to 34 different locations. So I picked out the 10 most frequently used locations and I'll enter the other 24 manually-still a big improvement over the way I used to do it)

LastButNotLeast
10-16-07, 07:27 PM
I have an old satellite dish and it has to be positioned to 34 different locations.

I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Could you elaborate on why (I don't even want to know the how) you have to move your satellite dish?!

Gary J
10-16-07, 08:16 PM
I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Could you elaborate on why (I don't even want to know the how) you have to move your satellite dish?!

You must be a whippersnapper. :D He's talking about the big old 10' C-Band satellite dishes. Best picture ever.

4theheelz
10-17-07, 09:00 AM
You must be a whippersnapper. :D He's talking about the big old 10' C-Band satellite dishes. Best picture ever.

Actually it is a 12 footer and picks up both C and Ku band-commonly referred to as a "BUD" short for Big Ugly Dish!

So the "why" is to move across the arc to pick up the available satellites.

czzer
10-17-07, 09:33 AM
Thanks for the info. I am almost finished with the setup. I used the "sequence" procedure in the "activity" mode to eliminate some repetitive strokes-the only drawback to that is there is a limit of 10 sequences per activity. (I have an old satellite dish and it has to be positioned to 34 different locations. So I picked out the 10 most frequently used locations and I'll enter the other 24 manually-still a big improvement over the way I used to do it)

Could you create multiple activities with 10 "locations" per activity? eg "Watch TV 1" has sequences for locations 1 thru 10, "Watch TV 2" has sequences for locations 11 thru 20 etc...

I know nothing about your setup, so I don't know if it's feasible or not, but just an idea...

4theheelz
10-17-07, 10:38 AM
Excellent idea that i had not thought of. will try. thanks!

mcmasterson
10-17-07, 03:22 PM
I tried searching this thread but nothing came up. I am looking at utilizing: GRX-2403 grafik eye lighting control and wondering if the 880 will control this unit. I know the 3000 series it does work with Harmony. I am looking to buy it today so i was hoping for a quick definitive answer.

thanks!

Gary J
10-17-07, 03:27 PM
Works with my Lutron Grafik Eye. Even if it doesn't what do you have to have it learn - about 4 commands?

jorwex
10-18-07, 01:48 PM
I had this same problem with my volume up button. I had to press the button harder than the other buttons to get the volume to go up. I called a Logitech CSR and he said I was out of warranty and would have to call back since the Level 2 CSRs aren't open yet. Instead of waiting to be most likely denied because of warranty I decided to see if I could fix the problem myself.

I took out the battery and removed the two screws on the top and bottom of the remote. Additional to the screws the remote has about 6 places where it snaps into place. I had to use a screw driver to wedge inbetween where the remote is put together to unsnap the top and bottom parts. I then put a dab of hot glue on the volume up button and put the remote back together. Now the button works as it should.

I hope this helps.

Where exactly do you put the dab of glue? I can think of two places, if I understand correctly the rest of what I quoted above. Now, if the remote is apart, then you could either put the glue on the remote's PCB, where the rubber button makes contact with the board, OR you put some glue on the underside of the rubber button part.

Sincerely,

Confused.

joe221
10-18-07, 02:29 PM
Where exactly do you put the dab of glue? I can think of two places, if I understand correctly the rest of what I quoted above. Now, if the remote is apart, then you could either put the glue on the remote's PCB, where the rubber button makes contact with the board, OR you put some glue on the underside of the rubber button part.

Sincerely,

Confused.

Before you actually start glueing anything, call Harmony and see if they will help you.

jorwex
10-18-07, 02:40 PM
I don't have an 880 :(

I have an older one that's out of warranty. I might be delightfully surprized, but I'm betting Harmony/Logitech will say they can't do anything.

Thanks

joe221
10-18-07, 05:16 PM
I don't have an 880 :(

I have an older one that's out of warranty. I might be delightfully surprized, but I'm betting Harmony/Logitech will say they can't do anything.

Thanks

My 880 was almost two years old and they replaced it! So who knows...

chris0
10-19-07, 12:24 AM
I have an 890 and have so far been using it only with IR. There's really no reason I haven't hooked up the RF receiver until now, other than that I have been adding/upgrading equipment over the last month or so, and I was lazy about mounting the RF unit. It's worked beautifully so far, other than me having to raise my arm over my coffee table or point the remote at the side of my couch to get my PS3 and HD DVD player to work. Believe me, I've known all along that once I hooked it up I'd say something like, "Wow, why didn't I hook that thing up sooner?"

Well, I added the RF extender to the remote and velcroed it to the underside of my TV stand and above all my AV equipment and all I have to say is...Wow, why didn't I hook this thing up sooner?

I still have my TV receiving IR but everything else is RF. I left the TV as IR because it uses the same input for everything so only needs to be turned on and off via remote and it's in plain sight of whatever I'm doing with the remote.

Man, I thought the 890 was cool with the Activities and such, it's even cooler controlling my setup without having to play Navy Signalman with my arm anymore. I thought it might add delays to my commands, screwing things up. It actually seems faster than before. I don't know how that can be, but it seems faster. I am so glad I got this thing!

True couch potatoism at it's finest.

JayMan007
10-19-07, 12:11 PM
Yes, the 890 is way cool.

I set mine up the same way... open the doors on the cabinet and set up using IR... then migrate everything to RF using the RF receiver and the cables w/ emitters.

FWIW, I use a sequence that sends volume command to my AVR & TV so that I can see some feedback on screen. (no speakers attached to display)

darkwire
10-19-07, 04:24 PM
Just wanted to say I took apart my remote to do the hot glue fix according to this thread, and I was successful.

1) Remove screw from the top, near IR window
2) Press slightly down on the battery cover groove and slide out, it will come off.
3) Remove battery
4) Remove screw from the botton, below the battery cavity.
5) Gently loosen bottom 1/3 of the remote, so you can wedge in a jewelers flat head screw driver _near_ the 'snap/clip' inside.
6) Repeat on opposite side
7) Gently loosen up to about 2/5 of the remote.
8) Gently loosen the 'snap/clip' on one side and repeat.
9) Loosen up to the 4/5 of the remote.
10) Gently loosen the 'snap/clip' on the left and right.
11) Gently remove seperate the two halves of the remote, but be extra gently with the top IR window, so you don't break it.
12 ) Look for the appropriate rubber bump that corresponds to the poorly responding button.
13) Apply a tiny bit of hot glue, and cut off the excess, or just remove the glue and try again, it doesn't really stick to the rubber. I used about a 2mm dab of glue, that seemed too large but once I closed up the remote and pressed it a few times, it felt fine.
14) Slide IR window back on
15) Snap the remote back together from the top, middle and bottom
16) Replace battery, and use the rubber wedge/paper wedge trick on the bottom side of the battery if it feels loose. (one of the battery not charging tricks)
17) Close up and test.

Good luck and be sure to clean off your contacts, lcd window and use some compressed air to clean the internals while you have the remote open.

abuharabi
10-19-07, 04:29 PM
I read this thread yesterday and it convinced me to order one of these. I currently use 3 remotes and it always feels like I have the one close to me that I don't need -- you know, you're watching a movie and you get really comfortable, then realize the receiver remote is too far out of reach. Hopefully this remote is worth the coin.

brian32672
10-19-07, 06:13 PM
Hopefully this remote is worth the coin.
You will be pleasantly surprised.:)
I've had more expensive remotes (3x the cost of this one), and they are great.
But the simplicity (while working everything) of this remote is worth it.

Dizzyboy
10-19-07, 10:48 PM
Is there any way to properly control an Ipod through its dock with an 880? I tried selecting the Ipod option through Logi's MP3 Server menu, but all it gave me was a learning remote option, which then attempted to force me to program numerical keys that do not exist on any apple remote! Has anyone found a direct, clean way to mimic the Ipod remote via an 880?

thebard
10-19-07, 11:58 PM
FWIW, I use a sequence that sends volume command to my AVR & TV so that I can see some feedback on screen. (no speakers attached to display)

That's a great idea... how did you set the sequence up?

sandman512
10-21-07, 12:11 PM
Just bought my 880 yesterday. So far, impressive, a little overwhelming though. I guess it will take some time to learn. One thing I can say is that I set it up for Yamaha YSP-800 and every command was there. Looking to learn more. :D

CFP
10-21-07, 01:24 PM
Does anyone use the Harmony 8800 with a Sony XBR4 TV? I want to set it so when choosing "Watch TV" activity, I want it to automatically set the TV's Speakers setting to the TV Speakers. However when the activity is Playing Games or Watching DVDs, I want the Harmony to set the TV's Speakers setting to "Audio System" (i.e. external speaker system).

Anyone know if Logitech has this code?

BruceS
10-21-07, 01:41 PM
Does anyone use the Harmony 8800 with a Sony XBR4 TV? I want to set it so when choosing "Watch TV" activity, I want it to automatically set the TV's Speakers setting to the TV Speakers. However when the activity is Playing Games or Watching DVDs, I want the Harmony to set the TV's Speakers setting to "Audio System" (i.e. external speaker system).

Anyone know if Logitech has this code?

You can go to members.harmonyremote.com and create a new account even if you have not yet purchased a harmony remote.

The simplest way to answer your question, if you do not receive an answer from someone who has already done what you want to, is to create an account add your TV as a device, and then see whether there are already discrete commands shown to change the settings as you wish.

If they are not there, as long as you have the original TV remote you should be able to learn the commands from that. Even if it takes more than one key press on your original remote, you should be able to do want you want by creating sequence(s).

typecase
10-21-07, 10:15 PM
Is there a way to customize the off button on my Harmony 890? I'd like to have everything turn off, but I'd like to turn my lights on (via my Grafik Eye) and close my curtains. Is there any way to accomplish this? I've tried searching this thread so if this was already answered I apologize. Thanks! :D

thebard
10-22-07, 12:00 AM
Is there a way to customize the off button on my Harmony 890? I'd like to have everything turn off, but I'd like to turn my lights on (via my Grafik Eye) and close my curtains. Is there any way to accomplish this? I've tried searching this thread so if this was already answered I apologize. Thanks! :D

I think you'd have to set the "lights on" and "close curtains" commands as actions at the end of your activities.

wdkerbow
10-22-07, 09:00 AM
I think you'd have to set the "lights on" and "close curtains" commands as actions at the end of your activities.

Is the "Off" button an activity? How do you program codes other than "Off" to the "Off button?

strutter
10-22-07, 10:57 AM
^^
the off button is not an activity. its sole function is to end all activities. you cant program it specifially.

thebard was suggesting to add the lights and curtains comands to the end of his activities.
if he adds these comands to turn on when leaving an activity it may work when he pushes the off button but i'm not sure. i know i have my cable box set to always stay on and the off button doesnt turn it off.

czzer
10-22-07, 12:04 PM
Is there a way to customize the off button on my Harmony 890? I'd like to have everything turn off, but I'd like to turn my lights on (via my Grafik Eye) and close my curtains. Is there any way to accomplish this? I've tried searching this thread so if this was already answered I apologize. Thanks! :D

You could possibly do it by changing the "Power settings" for the light and curtain devices so that the "Power Off" commands are "Lights On" and "Curtains Close". Then just add the devices to all activities. This is how I've set my projector screen up and it works well.

joe221
10-22-07, 12:38 PM
Has anyone noticed the Favorite Channel interface in the software changed? Was I sleeping? 7.3.2 is the version. It must have slipped in. Now, does it get rid of the numbers in the device, I'll report soon.


Update: Nope the displaying numbers are still there, no option found. At least not in the most obvious place.

SnellKrell
10-22-07, 12:47 PM
How wonderful, before the "update" I didn't have those annoying channel numbers getting in the way of the channel logos - now I do!

Ain't progress great!

joe221
10-22-07, 01:00 PM
On top of this "improvement" the number of numbers you can assign to a channel is DECREASED so now when I try to update it's killing a lot of my "-" channels!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
What are they thinking!?:confused::confused::confused:

Update: I'm talking to Tech Support now. If I had let it update most of my QAM channels would have been dead. It only allows 4 digits total now. (##-#)

strutter
10-22-07, 02:14 PM
On top of this "improvement" the number of numbers you can assign to a channel is DECREASED so now when I try to update it's killing a lot of my "-" channels!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
What are they thinking!?:confused::confused::confused:

Update: I'm talking to Tech Support now. If I had let it update most of my QAM channels would have been dead. It only allows 4 digits total now. (##-#)

that "improvement" of displaying the channel numbers over the fav. icons happened way before the last update that added the sequences. i haven't plugged mine in since June and it has the numbers. theres a couple of post here about it and several on rcforum. its generally agreed that it sucks. and basically destroys the icon that is already low rez.

i didn't know it had the other issue you describe. all my channels are at most 3 digit. i don't use QAM yet.

joe221
10-22-07, 03:11 PM
that "improvement" of displaying the channel numbers over the fav. icons happened way before the last update that added the sequences. i haven't plugged mine in since June and it has the numbers. theres a couple of post here about it and several on rcforum. its generally agreed that it sucks. and basically destroys the icon that is already low rez.

i didn't know it had the other issue you describe. all my channels are at most 3 digit. i don't use QAM yet.

I knew that the numbers have been there for months. It's the NEW .2 features I'm writing about!

joe221
10-22-07, 04:20 PM
On top of this "improvement" the number of numbers you can assign to a channel is DECREASED so now when I try to update it's killing a lot of my "-" channels!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
What are they thinking!?:confused::confused::confused:

Update: I'm talking to Tech Support now. If I had let it update most of my QAM channels would have been dead. It only allows 4 digits total now. (##-#)

Dear Joseph,

Thank you for your recent inquiry about your Harmony Remote

The change to the Favorite Channels that adjusted the the number of digits that could be entered from 6 to 4 has been deemed as a program error from our ;last web update.

This error will be resolved with our next web update (7.9) is scheduled to be implemented in mid November.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

The notes also indicate that you are inquiring about being able to enter 7 digits for a Favorite Channel.

Evan after the Favorite Channel issue is resolved in mid November, it will not be possible to enter 7 digits as a Favorite Channels.

I have forwarded this information to our development area for review and possible future enhancements.

If you would like further information and other tips on customizing your remote please visit the FAQ portion of your Harmony member website. To access, Click “Support”, then click “FAQ” while logged in your harmony member page.



So now I can't do any updates until November? Great DirecTV installs tomorrow! :mad:

DocTDC
10-22-07, 08:14 PM
Can't find this in the thread.

Can you program the remote to "learn" other RF commands?

I have an outdoor fireplace which operates via remote. The remote does not need to be pointed at the fireplace and will even work through a house wall so I'm assuming it operates by some sort of RF command.

The Harmony software doesn't appear to recognize the brand of fireplace... so can the remote somehow learn to operate it?

I know it has an IR receiver for commands, but it doesn't seem to work with the fireplace remote.

Thanks,

DocTDC

czzer
10-22-07, 08:22 PM
Can't find this in the thread.

Can you program the remote to "learn" other RF commands?

I have an outdoor fireplace which operates via remote. The remote does not need to be pointed at the fireplace and will even work through a house wall so I'm assuming it operates by some sort of RF command.

The Harmony software doesn't appear to recognize the brand of fireplace... so can the remote somehow learn to operate it?

I know it has an IR receiver for commands, but it doesn't seem to work with the fireplace remote.

Thanks,

DocTDC

No universal remote can learn RF.

DocTDC
10-22-07, 08:23 PM
Bummer.

typecase
10-23-07, 12:46 AM
You could possibly do it by changing the "Power settings" for the light and curtain devices so that the "Power Off" commands are "Lights On" and "Curtains Close". Then just add the devices to all activities. This is how I've set my projector screen up and it works well.

This is a great suggestion! :D Thanks! I'll try it and report back.

Also, my ancient Sharp Projector requires a double hit of the power toggle to turn it off, and the off button never quite turns it off without me having to use the help button. Is there any way to make the remote issue the "power toggle" command twice in succession? Is there something obvious I'm missing without having to program a separate "turn off the projector" activity?

czzer
10-23-07, 03:48 AM
This is a great suggestion! :D Thanks! I'll try it and report back.

Also, my ancient Sharp Projector requires a double hit of the power toggle to turn it off, and the off button never quite turns it off without me having to use the help button. Is there any way to make the remote issue the "power toggle" command twice in succession? Is there something obvious I'm missing without having to program a separate "turn off the projector" activity?

Under "Power settings" select "A button for ON and a different button for OFF".
Next select "My device needs more than one command to turn it on and off."
Select a single "Powertoggle" for On, and 2 "Powertoggle" for Off.

strutter
10-23-07, 10:24 AM
I knew that the numbers have been there for months. It's the NEW .2 features I'm writing about!

i think i got my quotes mixed up. the first part of my reply should have been for Gary Press.
the last part about not knowing about that issue was fer u.

thebard
10-23-07, 10:37 AM
This is a great suggestion! :D Thanks! I'll try it and report back.

Also, my ancient Sharp Projector requires a double hit of the power toggle to turn it off, and the off button never quite turns it off without me having to use the help button. Is there any way to make the remote issue the "power toggle" command twice in succession? Is there something obvious I'm missing without having to program a separate "turn off the projector" activity?

Again, you could probably set up the second button push as an exit action for the activity... BUT...

I would probably reassign the projector's power button to a sequence ("power - power") instead. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that way if you ever set up another projector activity & go from one to the other, the Harmony should know to leave the projector on for that transition & not carry out the button push.

joe221
10-23-07, 10:48 AM
i think i got my quotes mixed up. the first part of my reply should have been for Gary Press.
the last part about not knowing about that issue was fer u.

My part is that the Harmony remotes with Favorites may never be compatible with new Mitsubushi TVs for folks using the QAM tuner.

:(

typecase
10-23-07, 11:55 PM
Under "Power settings" select "A button for ON and a different button for OFF".
Next select "My device needs more than one command to turn it on and off."
Select a single "Powertoggle" for On, and 2 "Powertoggle" for Off.

Czzer, you're a genius! Thank you! Since I only have a single button for power, this would have never occurred to me. Thanks again! :D

czzer
10-24-07, 12:51 AM
Czzer, you're a genius! Thank you! Since I only have a single button for power, this would have never occurred to me. Thanks again! :D

I can't take credit for that one...it's actually from the FAQ on the Harmony website. :)

Dennis Heller
10-24-07, 04:35 PM
I know this has been discussed, but I have the problem where you must push some buttons harder to get them to operate, and I'm looking to justify my poition.

I started with a unit that had the faded screen issue and problems with the charging unit, but all the buttons worked. I had it replaced under warranty, and on the new one the screen is good and the charger works, but a few of the buttons are as described above (rewind, pause, and a couple of the buttons next to the screen).

I had that one replaced, and the newest one also has button issues (volume up and 4). I think I should keep sending them back until I get one that is fully functional, but I'm afraid this will go on ad infinitum.

So, am I being petty, chasing a wild goose, or am I being a good consumer. What are my chances of eventually getting a good unit?

BTW, aside from very long hold times, customer service has been excellent.

craig_wagner
10-24-07, 04:40 PM
So, am I being petty, chasing a wild goose, or am I being a good consumer. What are my chances of eventually getting a good unit?

If you bought a new product and it didn't work correctly, return/exchange it until you're satisfied.

FWIW, I haven't had any problem with the buttons on mine, and you mentioned that your first one had good buttons.

mchaney
10-24-07, 05:13 PM
Got a quick question or two that I can't seem to locate on a search of this thread. I just acquired an 880 and what a jewel to work with compared to my old Sony AV-3000! Two odd things that I noticed though:

(1) Every once in a while after holding down the volume up/down when controlling the volume of my Yamaha RX-V2600, the 880 will swap the +/- so that + is volume down and - is volume up... or it will make both the + and - increase volume. When this happens, I notice that the little "IR transmit" icon is on constantly. The fix is to press the device button, go to something else, and then come back. Seems like a firmware bug. Anyone else have this problem?

(2) Since my Yamaha receiver controls the inputs (I use HDMI for all my components), my Panasonic plasma is always set to HDMI. I don't need the 880 to "flick" the HDMI 1 input every time I turn on the system or switch to another activity. When reviewing activities on the computer, I can find a way to add activities but I can't find a way to remove this "switch the TV to HDMI 1 input" from the command list. I was going to try the bottom selection for TV input which is something like "input not listed" as I thought that might work, but I thought I'd ask.

I have the latest firmware for the 880 and the latest software: running it on Vista.

Thanks,
Mike

Iggster
10-24-07, 05:29 PM
Can anyone help me

I am getting "unable to display content" when I click the customize buttons option. What can be the problem?

czzer
10-24-07, 07:27 PM
Got a quick question or two that I can't seem to locate on a search of this thread. I just acquired an 880 and what a jewel to work with compared to my old Sony AV-3000! Two odd things that I noticed though:

(1) Every once in a while after holding down the volume up/down when controlling the volume of my Yamaha RX-V2600, the 880 will swap the +/- so that + is volume down and - is volume up... or it will make both the + and - increase volume. When this happens, I notice that the little "IR transmit" icon is on constantly. The fix is to press the device button, go to something else, and then come back. Seems like a firmware bug. Anyone else have this problem?

(2) Since my Yamaha receiver controls the inputs (I use HDMI for all my components), my Panasonic plasma is always set to HDMI. I don't need the 880 to "flick" the HDMI 1 input every time I turn on the system or switch to another activity. When reviewing activities on the computer, I can find a way to add activities but I can't find a way to remove this "switch the TV to HDMI 1 input" from the command list. I was going to try the bottom selection for TV input which is something like "input not listed" as I thought that might work, but I thought I'd ask.

I have the latest firmware for the 880 and the latest software: running it on Vista.

Thanks,
Mike

Can's help with 1...maybe call tech support.

For 2, go to "Adjust Inputs" for the TV device and select the option that says "One button to cycle through inputs".
Edit the list of inputs and delete every input except HDMI.
It will no longer try to cycle inputs, as there is nothing to cycle.

sivartk
10-24-07, 07:35 PM
Can anyone help me

I am getting "unable to display content" when I click the customize buttons option. What can be the problem?

That happened to me several times...the only way I could find to fix it was to delete the activity and re-create it :(

chris0
10-24-07, 08:35 PM
(1) Every once in a while after holding down the volume up/down when controlling the volume of my Yamaha RX-V2600, the 880 will swap the +/- so that + is volume down and - is volume up... or it will make both the + and - increase volume. When this happens, I notice that the little "IR transmit" icon is on constantly. The fix is to press the device button, go to something else, and then come back. Seems like a firmware bug. Anyone else have this problem?

(2) Since my Yamaha receiver controls the inputs (I use HDMI for all my components), my Panasonic plasma is always set to HDMI. I don't need the 880 to "flick" the HDMI 1 input every time I turn on the system or switch to another activity. When reviewing activities on the computer, I can find a way to add activities but I can't find a way to remove this "switch the TV to HDMI 1 input" from the command list. I was going to try the bottom selection for TV input which is something like "input not listed" as I thought that might work, but I thought I'd ask.

I have the latest firmware for the 880 and the latest software: running it on Vista.

Thanks,
Mike

1. My guess is that the remote and receiver are getting out of sync with long button holds. Try to play around with shortening the delays. Sounds like they're just a bit too long if the Transmit icon stays lit on the remote even after you release the button.

2. I have a Panny Plasma, too, and I know exactly what you mean. I don't mind that little box popping up so I've never tried to fix it, but I can think of two options...

You can remove the TV from all of your activities, assuming you're using a receiver to control the volume. You'd have to separately turn on the TV, though. Or you could set the InputHDMI1 signal for the TV Device to one that doesn't do anything.

I'll check it out real quick and see if I find anything else...

Edit: I just went into the software and I think you had the right idea with using "Source Input is Missing." Try that and let us know if it works, I may change mine.

joe221
10-24-07, 11:16 PM
I know this has been discussed, but I have the problem where you must push some buttons harder to get them to operate, and I'm looking to justify my poition.

I started with a unit that had the faded screen issue and problems with the charging unit, but all the buttons worked. I had it replaced under warranty, and on the new one the screen is good and the charger works, but a few of the buttons are as described above (rewind, pause, and a couple of the buttons next to the screen).

I had that one replaced, and the newest one also has button issues (volume up and 4). I think I should keep sending them back until I get one that is fully functional, but I'm afraid this will go on ad infinitum.

So, am I being petty, chasing a wild goose, or am I being a good consumer. What are my chances of eventually getting a good unit?

BTW, aside from very long hold times, customer service has been excellent.

Higher up you can read my story, but I now have one that the buttons click but send nothing!:eek: Sometimes...

rydenfan
10-29-07, 06:20 PM
Well, I just received my 880, I am very excited! I have it charging right now. How long should I leave it on the cradle for the initial charge?

blazeblaze
10-29-07, 06:24 PM
I would probably leave it on the cradle overnight the first time...but the battery indicator on the screen should show you when it's full.

kpdillon
10-29-07, 06:26 PM
Well, I just received my 880, I am very excited! I have it charging right now. How long should I leave it on the cradle for the initial charge?

Just curious, how come you went with the 880 over the 720? Reason I ask is I tried both and initially liked the ergonomics of the 880 but later realized the button placement for the 720 was much better for uses with TIVO, DVD etc... Not to make you feel bad about your 880 purchase, it's a great remote but maybe I caught you in enough time to consider the 720 and return the 880.

rydenfan
10-29-07, 06:45 PM
Just curious, how come you went with the 880 over the 720? Reason I ask is I tried both and initially liked the ergonomics of the 880 but later realized the button placement for the 720 was much better for uses with TIVO, DVD etc... Not to make you feel bad about your 880 purchase, it's a great remote but maybe I caught you in enough time to consider the 720 and return the 880.

The only reason was because I did not see it on Harmony's site so I thought it was a discontinued model. Are they pretty similar remotes?

rydenfan
10-29-07, 06:46 PM
I would probably leave it on the cradle overnight the first time...but the battery indicator on the screen should show you when it's full.

After I get the chaarging pictures for a few seconds they screen dims and then goes black. Is that normal? Should I just move it a little on the cradle to see the battery meter?

SnellKrell
10-29-07, 06:51 PM
It's completely normal - it's sleeping!

Shhhh!

maarten4
10-29-07, 06:59 PM
So anyone use the nyko bluwave to program the 880 to work with PS3? Just curious how well it works.
I just received the Nyko Blu-Wave USB IR receiver for my PS3 (which is otherwise Bluetooth only). Using the Harmony Nyko Blu-Wave PS3 device enablew the shape keys (circle, cross, triangle etc) to work however the arrow keys don't seem to work at all. It seems we will have to program them manually using the 880 learning function and the Nyko remote that came with the IR receiver. So until I get time to do that I am still reaching for the PS3 bluetooth remote or the Nyko remote. So the Nyko Blu-Wave does not seem to work "out of the box" with the 880 just yet. ...Maarten

bernie33
10-29-07, 07:00 PM
Well, I just received my 880, I am very excited! I have it charging right now. How long should I leave it on the cradle for the initial charge?

I thought the manual told how long to leave it on the cradle for the initial charge. No?

You're going to love it.

After reading another post I checked pictures of the 720 and concluded that I don't understand those comments. I'm glad that user is happy with their 720, but the 880 has the peanut shape (like the Tivo remotes), has a larger LCD and more programmable "soft" buttons. We've used our with a Tivo, a Motorola DVR, a DVD player, stereo, two brands of TV, cable box, and a VCR and it is perfect for all of them.

Bernie

rydenfan
10-29-07, 07:23 PM
My 880 did not come with a manual. Only a quick set-up that is a single piece of paper.

joe221
10-29-07, 09:14 PM
Just a note on something I just realized. Earlier I said about the charging cradle I received with my replacent 880. It had 2 brass contacts and a blank in the middle. Well, I rested a pen in the cradle a bit ago and guess what. The middle blank is a magnet! I didn't see this posted and searched. Is this a new discovery of a new design???

bernie33
10-29-07, 11:21 PM
My 880 did not come with a manual. Only a quick set-up that is a single piece of paper.

I can't readily put my hands on whatever came with our 880, but the manual is also available online. If you haven't already registered with the Logitech website you will need to do that to setup your remote and that will also give you access to the online manual and FAQ's. http://www.logitech.com/

The only thing I see in the FAQ's about charging the battery is that it is fully charged, and that the battery does not have a memory so you can leave it in the charger whenever you're not using it.

Bernie

kpdillon
10-29-07, 11:45 PM
After reading another post I checked pictures of the 720 and concluded that I don't understand those comments. I'm glad that user is happy with their 720, but the 880 has the peanut shape (like the Tivo remotes), has a larger LCD and more programmable "soft" buttons. We've used our with a Tivo, a Motorola DVR, a DVD player, stereo, two braneds of TV, cable box, and a VCR and it is perfect for all of them.

If you are referring to the comments I made, I evaluated both the 880 and 720. I think both are great remotes, don't get me wrong. But I used both for about a week and even though I liked the looks of the 880 better than the 720 I found the 720 much easier to operate and hold... Don't need to look at the remote to operate Tivo functions, they are better placed on the 720 in my opinion (ff, rw, pause, etc). I don't want to turn this into a debate on which is better, but I think folks should consider evaluate the 720 along with the 880. LCD screen is brighter on the 720 and has multiple pages of soft buttons should you need it. Both remotes do the same thing - so whether you end up with the 720 or 880 you've got a great remote!

joe221
10-30-07, 01:48 AM
If you are referring to the comments I made, I evaluated both the 880 and 720. I think both are great remotes, don't get me wrong. But I used both for about a week and even though I liked the looks of the 880 better than the 720 I found the 720 much easier to operate and hold... Don't need to look at the remote to operate Tivo functions, they are better placed on the 720 in my opinion (ff, rw, pause, etc). I don't want to turn this into a debate on which is better, but I think folks should consider evaluate the 720 along with the 880. LCD screen is brighter on the 720 and has multiple pages of soft buttons should you need it. Both remotes do the same thing - so whether you end up with the 720 or 880 you've got a great remote!

A question I've never gotten answered about the 720. How many favorites can it store. I believe it can do 6 at a time, as the 880 can do 2 pages of 8.

kpdillon
10-30-07, 08:46 AM
The 720 can do 2 pages of 6 favorites as far as I can tell. Also, some of the free graphics that were created for the harmony favorites are geared for the screen on the 880.

rydenfan
10-30-07, 06:57 PM
Does anybody know how I find/program the Velodyne SMS-1?

brian32672
10-30-07, 07:15 PM
Does anybody know how I find/program the Velodyne SMS-1?

Read post #3100 in this thread.;)

rydenfan
10-30-07, 07:40 PM
thanks! weird they would have it under receiver...

rydenfan
10-30-07, 08:09 PM
Next question. I prefer to turn my HD DVD player on ahead of time because of the loading time. I understand how to leave my current activity and go into the decive to turn it on. My questions are:
1. How do I get back into my current activity from there?
2. When I later go to the activity to watching HD DVD it turns the device off that I turned on. Is there any way to change that?

LastButNotLeast
10-30-07, 09:04 PM
Next question. I prefer to turn my HD DVD player on ahead of time because of the loading time. I understand how to leave my current activity and go into the decive to turn it on. My questions are:
1. How do I get back into my current activity from there?
2. When I later go to the activity to watching HD DVD it turns the device off that I turned on. Is there any way to change that?

1. Press "Device" again.
2. Set up another activity which assumes the DVD player is already on, then just use the appropriate activity button (one for player already on, other for player off).

rydenfan
10-30-07, 09:14 PM
cool. Thanks!

So far I love this remote!! I cannot believe how easy it is to set-up and how intuative it is. The best purchase I have made in awhile.

Elton Noway
10-30-07, 09:16 PM
Well, I just received my 880, I am very excited! I have it charging right now. How long should I leave it on the cradle for the initial charge?

My 880 did not come with a manual. Only a quick set-up that is a single piece of paper.

Interesting... I guess it depends who’s packing up the remotes at the factory on any given day. My 880 came with software, a multi-color Installation Guide for both PC and MAC... "and"... a separate letter from Logitech on multi-color Logitech stationary. Ironically... the letter was specifically on first time charging! Here's the letter in its entirety:
__________________________________________________________

May 23, 2007

Dear Harmony 880 customer,
Please be sure to follow the steps below, to ensure your Harmony 880 gets charged before you use it:

1. Insert the Lithium-Ion batter (included) into the Harmony 880.
2. Plug in the re-charging station to a power outlet.
3. Place the Harmony 880 in the re-charging station overnight.

If you experience any problem with charging your Harmony 880 after following these steps, please call our customer service at 1-866-291-1505

Thank you.

Sincerely

Logitect Support Team

__________________________________________________________

rydenfan
10-30-07, 09:56 PM
Next question. My velodyne SMS-1, I want it to be on with all of my activities but I obviously cannot tell it to turn on with each activity because then some activites would turn it off. Yet if I am powing everything down then I would like it to power down. Is that achievable? Or should I just leave it on all the time?

Thanks for all the help!!

bernie33
10-30-07, 10:58 PM
Next question. I prefer to turn my HD DVD player on ahead of time because of the loading time. I understand how to leave my current activity and go into the decive to turn it on. My questions are:
1. How do I get back into my current activity from there?
2. When I later go to the activity to watching HD DVD it turns the device off that I turned on. Is there any way to change that?

In the setup, you should be able to tell the Harmony to leave the devices that are needed on when you change to a different activity that uses the device. When you went into device mode to turn on your DVD player the Harmony should know that the device is now on, and it should leave it that way when you choose the Watch DVD activity (or whatever you named the activity). I'd give you more specifics but the site is not letting me log in right now to see exactly how to do it.

The Harmony telephone support is excellent, so of you find some things that aren't working quite the way you want, if you can't resolve them yourself give them a call if you don't quickly get the answers here.

By the way, if you haven't discovered it yet, the Help button on the Harmony is very good. When you press it it will take you through a series of steps to get things back in sync and usually you won't need to use the Device button at all. You'll find that especially useful for the other members of your household.

Bernie

czzer
10-30-07, 11:51 PM
When you went into device mode to turn on your DVD player the Harmony should know that the device is now on, and it should leave it that way when you choose the Watch DVD activity (or whatever you named the activity). I'd give you more specifics but the site is not letting me log in right now to see exactly how to do it.



The Harmony doesn't keep track of state changes you make in Device mode. This is why you should only use Activities for power and input changing.

brian32672
10-30-07, 11:52 PM
Next question. My velodyne SMS-1, I want it to be on with all of my activities but I obviously cannot tell it to turn on with each activity because then some activites would turn it off. Yet if I am powing everything down then I would like it to power down. Is that achievable? Or should I just leave it on all the time?

Thanks for all the help!!
Just add it to all activities, yes that is possible.
When you switch activities it will stay on.
You you press all off, obviously it will turn off.

Why would you want it on all the time? (for TV watching????):confused:

czzer
10-30-07, 11:52 PM
Next question. My velodyne SMS-1, I want it to be on with all of my activities but I obviously cannot tell it to turn on with each activity because then some activites would turn it off. Yet if I am powing everything down then I would like it to power down. Is that achievable? Or should I just leave it on all the time?

Thanks for all the help!!

Just add it to all of your activities and it will work as you want.

jerryray
10-31-07, 12:34 AM
Where do I set this setting, the HR20 sat sometimes shows 2 digits when I pressed one. In the activities or ?

rydenfan
10-31-07, 06:06 PM
Just add it to all activities, yes that is possible.
When you switch activities it will stay on.
You you press all off, obviously it will turn off.

Why would you want it on all the time? (for TV watching????):confused:

I added it to each activity but when it switches from one activity to the other it turns the SMS off. What should I do?

thebard
10-31-07, 11:02 PM
I added it to each activity but when it switches from one activity to the other it turns the SMS off. What should I do?

Click on each activity and select "Review setting for this activity". Make sure it says the unit is set to "On".

That should work; the remote will "remember" the unit is on already as it switches from one activity to another.

Otherwise, you could always go to the device settings -> adjust power settings, and set it to always on, but this would mean it wouldn't turn off when you shut the system down.

grimholtz
11-01-07, 12:26 AM
Can anyone recommend a RF light switch that works with the Harmony 890?

rydenfan
11-01-07, 07:34 PM
Click on each activity and select "Review setting for this activity". Make sure it says the unit is set to "On".

That should work; the remote will "remember" the unit is on already as it switches from one activity to another.

Otherwise, you could always go to the device settings -> adjust power settings, and set it to always on, but this would mean it wouldn't turn off when you shut the system down.

Could the problem be that the SMS-1 is turning off from the old activity ending? Do I need to change the settings so that it does not turn un-used decives off when the activity changes? I would think the remote would know not to turn it off because it is used in the new activity.

czzer
11-01-07, 10:58 PM
Could the problem be that the SMS-1 is turning off from the old activity ending? Do I need to change the settings so that it does not turn un-used decives off when the activity changes? I would think the remote would know not to turn it off because it is used in the new activity.

If the SMS-1 is part of both activities then it shouldn't be turned off when switching activities. Try the SMS-1 power commands in Device mode and see if they work as toggles or discretes. It sounds like it might be set up to use discretes, but the actual assigned command is a toggle.

ellmech
11-03-07, 08:24 PM
I have my 880 working very close to perfect all except one nagging problem. From the activities menu I can not seem to get "Watch a DVD" to change my TV to input 6 on my TV if the TV is on input 5 to start with. Also if the TV is on input 6 it will not switch to input 5 if I press "Watch PVR". Another words if the TV is on the right input for the activity I am trying to start I am fine. If it is not I need to manually change the input to the proper input. Below Are the components and what they are set to. Could anyone suggest how I can get the TV to switch inputs for the proper activity automatically rather than me having to manually switch inputs.

Watch TV/PVR - TV input 5 - HDMI
Watch DVD - TV input 6 - HDMI
TV is a Sharp LC52D64U

Other components:
Onkyo 505 AV Reciever
Oppo DVD 481HD
GE - Set top Cable Box PVR & HDMI

joe221
11-03-07, 10:56 PM
I have my 880 working very close to perfect all except one nagging problem. From the activities menu I can not seem to get "Watch a DVD" to change my TV to input 6 on my TV if the TV is on input 5 to start with. Also if the TV is on input 6 it will not switch to input 5 if I press "Watch PVR". Another words if the TV is on the right input for the activity I am trying to start I am fine. If it is not I need to manually change the input to the proper input. Below Are the components and what they are set to. Could anyone suggest how I can get the TV to switch inputs for the proper activity automatically rather than me having to manually switch inputs.

Watch TV/PVR - TV input 5 - HDMI
Watch DVD - TV input 6 - HDMI
TV is a Sharp LC52D64U

Other components:
Onkyo 505 AV Reciever
Oppo DVD 481HD
GE - Set top Cable Box PVR & HDMI

On the remote. Go to DEVICE and your TV. Now scroll through all the commands til you find the discrete command Input 6 or what ever it's called. See if it controls the TV correctly. My bet is it doesn't. If not see if one of the other commands is actually Input 6. Hopefully it is and tell the remote to use that one for input 6.
Hopes this makes sense.

czzer
11-03-07, 11:50 PM
I have my 880 working very close to perfect all except one nagging problem. From the activities menu I can not seem to get "Watch a DVD" to change my TV to input 6 on my TV if the TV is on input 5 to start with. Also if the TV is on input 6 it will not switch to input 5 if I press "Watch PVR". Another words if the TV is on the right input for the activity I am trying to start I am fine. If it is not I need to manually change the input to the proper input. Below Are the components and what they are set to. Could anyone suggest how I can get the TV to switch inputs for the proper activity automatically rather than me having to manually switch inputs.

Watch TV/PVR - TV input 5 - HDMI
Watch DVD - TV input 6 - HDMI
TV is a Sharp LC52D64U

Other components:
Onkyo 505 AV Reciever
Oppo DVD 481HD
GE - Set top Cable Box PVR & HDMI

Does the "Help" button fix it? If it does, try increasing the Inter Device Delay. If it doesn't, then do as Joe suggested.

Istari1
11-04-07, 01:35 AM
Am I going crazy or did they remove the online setup page? My old link does not work and I cannot find a new one on their site to save my life either. Are we forced to use the downloaded setup utility now?

chris0
11-04-07, 01:46 AM
Am I going crazy or did they remove the online setup page? My old link does not work and I cannot find a new one on their site to save my life either. Are we forced to use the downloaded setup utility now?

members.harmonyremote.com

Out of curiosity, is there a reason you'd rather use the website rather than the software?

beekeeper
11-04-07, 06:24 AM
I have my 880 working very close to perfect all except one nagging problem. From the activities menu I can not seem to get "Watch a DVD" to change my TV to input 6 on my TV if the TV is on input 5 to start with. Also if the TV is on input 6 it will not switch to input 5 if I press "Watch PVR". Another words if the TV is on the right input for the activity I am trying to start I am fine. If it is not I need to manually change the input to the proper input. Below Are the components and what they are set to. Could anyone suggest how I can get the TV to switch inputs for the proper activity automatically rather than me having to manually switch inputs.

Watch TV/PVR - TV input 5 - HDMI
Watch DVD - TV input 6 - HDMI
TV is a Sharp LC52D64U

Other components:
Onkyo 505 AV Reciever
Oppo DVD 481HD
GE - Set top Cable Box PVR & HDMI

Also keep it facing the set and see if it shifts after about 10-30 seconds. It might be the delay.

Also, make sure the receiver sensor on the TV is not obstructed. So position yourself directly in front of the TV and try again.

When you say "manually change" inputs, is it with the Harmony? You should have "input 6" or whatever on the harmony or in the database, and if it works and you can shift back and forth between 5 and 6 with the harmony and a discrete signal "input 6", "input 5", (not "change input" and cycle through a bunch of them), then it is probably the delay. If you use "change input" then it is probably the signal.

ellmech
11-04-07, 10:31 AM
Thanks guys for all he help! After playing with the settings I finaly got it to work. I actually had to "re-order" the sequence of commands to have input selection last then added a longer delay. Now it works fine, I just have to point the remote for around 15-20 seconds to get all the commands out. Seems as though it was sending out the input command before the TV was ready to accept it.
Thanks Again

DLAZ
11-04-07, 11:48 AM
Just ordered from Amazon, great price!

SirDracula
11-04-07, 11:53 AM
members.harmonyremote.com

Out of curiosity, is there a reason you'd rather use the website rather than the software?

Here's a good reason: there's a nice Firefox extension (Harmony Mod) that improves the web interface, something you cannot do with the native application:

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-harmony/thread.cgi?4182

Stryker412
11-04-07, 02:15 PM
I just got a Series3 Tivo. I programmed the 30 sec skip but when I use it, it skips to the end of the show. Anyone know how to fix it?

arrow4paws
11-04-07, 02:44 PM
I am looking at buying the 880 but as it seems to have been out for several years has anyone heard of any updated model in the works,I have also read that it has a weak IR problem,is this still true.

TheMoose
11-04-07, 03:07 PM
I haven't heard of a new model any time soon but I can say it does not have weak IR.

blazeblaze
11-04-07, 04:11 PM
I haven't heard of a new model any time soon but I can say it does not have weak IR.

I agree that it does not have weak IR. I can pretty much point the remote at any wall in my living room and the IR signals are received by my AV equipment flawlessly.

JustAsk
11-04-07, 06:56 PM
Agreed! I can also point my 880 remote at any wall in the theater and it works.

bskuared
11-04-07, 08:37 PM
Hi all,
I've been looking at a variety of Harmony remotes but I don't see mention of the ability to access the list of recorded shows. Is there something I"m missing here? Is this something that the device can "learn" and be programmed into another button or something like that?

wdkerbow
11-04-07, 09:14 PM
Hi all,
I've been looking at a variety of Harmony remotes but I don't see mention of the ability to access the list of recorded shows. Is there something I"m missing here? Is this something that the device can "learn" and be programmed into another button or something like that?

My Suddenlink (formerly Cox) DVR (Motorola 6412 Phase III) uses a button that is in the database labeled as "MyDVR" for displaying the list of recorded shows.

NoVaT
11-04-07, 09:18 PM
I just got the 880 and set it up to work with my Samsung/Tivo DVR. It already had the "list" function on the LCD screen. Works great so far.

JustAsk
11-04-07, 10:02 PM
Hi all,
I've been looking at a variety of Harmony remotes but I don't see mention of the ability to access the list of recorded shows. Is there something I"m missing here? Is this something that the device can "learn" and be programmed into another button or something like that?

The 880 uses a list button that was already in the soft keys as well for the DIRECTV HR20-700.

strutter
11-04-07, 10:26 PM
and it works perfectly with the SA8300HD DVR also.

bskuared
11-04-07, 10:29 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback. What about the 670? Trying to decide between the two. I like the keyboard light feature on the670....

czzer
11-04-07, 11:35 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback. What about the 670? Trying to decide between the two. I like the keyboard light feature on the670....

They all use the same database, and you can assign any command to (almost) any button you want. Any missing commands can be learned from the factory remote.

Elton Noway
11-05-07, 12:51 AM
Thanks for the quick feedback. What about the 670? Trying to decide between the two. I like the keyboard light feature on the670....


Not sure what you mean by the keyboard light. Both the 670 and 880 have backlit keypads. The 670 and 880 are similar in design but the 880 has a color display and the 670 is only Monochrome. Actually the 570 is probably closer to the 880. The 570 and 880 perform the same but the physical design is different. Some prefer the key spacing and layout of the 570 while 880 lovers prefer the peanut shape. FYI: From time to time, Amazon.com offers genuine Logitech factory refurbished 880's for less than $100. If your worried about a refurbished unit, Amazon also offers a 2 year replacement warranty for an additional 19.99. If you don't see the Logitech 880 refurb on the Amazon site for just under $100... just keep checking the site. Amazon has them listed on their site at least once or twice every month but they sell out pretty fast. THe good news is if you wait a week or so they will be back on the site.

bskuared
11-05-07, 09:10 AM
I think I like the keyboard layout on the 670 better. I don't see any 570's for sale anywhere. I do see the 550 though.

gumby430
11-05-07, 01:54 PM
I have had this remote for about 6 months and it's great. I need a little help thought. I am using a motorolla moxi box for cable and when I am scrolling through the guide using the arrow bottons the remote is a little slugish and then it takes off and jumps way to many spots. I know it has to do with how long the remote broadcasts the signal. Can someone shet some light on what the setting should be on. Thanks

bernie33
11-05-07, 05:43 PM
I am looking at buying the 880 but as it seems to have been out for several years has anyone heard of any updated model in the works,I have also read that it has a weak IR problem,is this still true.
Just check the Logitech Harmony site, http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/&cl=us,en The 1000 came out almost a year ago if I recall correctly.

Whatever you read about a weak IR is WRONG, as many others have already replied. Hard to imagine how anyone could have said that. The flexibility and angles at which the Harmony works are much, much greater than any of the other remotes that we have (and of course we no longer use any other remote).

Bernie

LastButNotLeast
11-05-07, 10:23 PM
Someone asked a while ago for interesting uses for "sequence." Here's one (actually, two) for my new HD-A2:

skip forward 60 seconds: FF - FF - FF - cursor (to kill time) - play
skip backwards 30 seconds: REW - REW - REW - play

Mapped them to channel + and channel - toggle.

What a great toy. Er, tool.

rehaz1
11-06-07, 09:03 AM
I just got a Series3 Tivo. I programmed the 30 sec skip but when I use it, it skips to the end of the show. Anyone know how to fix it?
I don't know if this works for the series 3 TIVO's but this works for my Directv Tivo. It is a back door to get the 30 sec skip. While watching a recorded program, Press Select, Play, Select, 3, 0, and Select This will work until use lose power or if your Tivo re-boots, then you will have to do it again

JayMan007
11-06-07, 10:50 AM
Someone asked a while ago for interesting uses for "sequence." Here's one (actually, two) for my new HD-A2:

skip forward 60 seconds: FF - FF - FF - cursor (to kill time) - play
skip backwards 30 seconds: REW - REW - REW - play

Mapped them to channel + and channel - toggle.

What a great toy. Er, tool.

Cool. I would have mapped them to skip & replay so they would be similar to my DVR.
replay |<<
skip >>|
I use channel +/- for chapter +/- on my DVD -- don't have HD player -yet.

BruceS
11-06-07, 11:26 AM
I don't know if this works for the series 3 TIVO's but this works for my Directv Tivo. It is a back door to get the 30 sec skip. While watching a recorded program, Press Select, Play, Select, 3, 0, and Select This will work until use lose power or if your Tivo re-boots, then you will have to do it again

It does work on the S3.

Just remember that you will need to do it again each time the S3 is booted.

keenan
11-06-07, 02:12 PM
It does work on the S3.

Just remember that you will need to do it again each time the S3 is booted.

The recent round of FW upgrades have not disabled this so you don't have to re-do it each time.

BruceS
11-06-07, 02:30 PM
I stand corrected. I just rebooted my S3 and 30 Second Skip still works without re-entering the activation code.

I never thought to check it after the upgrade and just assumed you still needed to re-enter it.

Since i don't know when this changed, I am currently running 9.2j.

hastypete
11-06-07, 03:21 PM
I don't know if this works for the series 3 TIVO's but this works for my Directv Tivo. It is a back door to get the 30 sec skip. While watching a recorded program, Press Select, Play, Select, 3, 0, and Select This will work until use lose power or if your Tivo re-boots, then you will have to do it again

Not with the latest update. It now remembers after a reboot ;)

Stryker412
11-06-07, 09:29 PM
I don't know if this works for the series 3 TIVO's but this works for my Directv Tivo. It is a back door to get the 30 sec skip. While watching a recorded program, Press Select, Play, Select, 3, 0, and Select This will work until use lose power or if your Tivo re-boots, then you will have to do it again

Works! Thanks.

chrislemasters
11-06-07, 10:39 PM
FWIW, I use a sequence that sends volume command to my AVR & TV so that I can see some feedback on screen. (no speakers attached to display)

Now THAT is a GREAT TIP! I have a new Sony AVR (3300ES) that doesn't touch HDMI signals (they are passed through clean) so there is no volume overlay on the TV. The family really needs the "volume bar" feedback - I never thought of this approach. VERY VERY CLEVER! Many thanks again!!!

Chris LeMasters

jbean8510
11-07-07, 12:48 AM
ok this may be a dumb question but does anyone know if there is an IR powersplitter/center.

To explain: On back of recievers that have outlets for power, and you can use the amp's ir to turn the thing on by turning on the amp.

Basically I want to be able to power on things with the remote that do not have ir capabilities such as ps3, super nintendo, etc...

thebard
11-07-07, 01:20 AM
ok this may be a dumb question but does anyone know if there is an IR powersplitter/center.

To explain: On back of recievers that have outlets for power, and you can use the amp's ir to turn the thing on by turning on the amp.

Basically I want to be able to power on things with the remote that do not have ir capabilities such as ps3, super nintendo, etc...

You could try a current sensing switched outlet like the one at http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/x-10.htm... it lets any device act as a controlling device to power on the other outlets.

You could also use an ir outlet adapter like this one: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/dad-might-like-this/get-a-remote-control-outlet-and-never-get-up-again-266515.php

... but you'd need line-of-sight to the outlet (kind of inconvenient).

jbean8510
11-07-07, 01:32 AM
wow thanks a bunch man....line of sight really doesnt matter....now i gotta find out if harmony has this in their sytem

bernie33
11-07-07, 03:14 AM
ok this may be a dumb question but does anyone know if there is an IR powersplitter/center.

To explain: On back of recievers that have outlets for power, and you can use the amp's ir to turn the thing on by turning on the amp.

Basically I want to be able to power on things with the remote that do not have ir capabilities such as ps3, super nintendo, etc...

Often with those types of devices, once they have electricity they then need to be powered on, so your approach may still not do what you actually want. But it is certainly easy to test before you invest any money or time. Unplug your PS3, super Nintendo, etc. Then plug each one back in and see if it actually powers on or if it simply goes into its standby mode and becomes ready to receive a power on signal.

lchiu7
11-07-07, 04:31 AM
Often with those types of devices, once they have electricity they then need to be powered on, so your approach may still not do what you actually want. But it is certainly easy to test before you invest any money or time. Unplug your PS3, super Nintendo, etc. Then plug each one back in and see if it actually powers on or if it simply goes into its standby mode and becomes ready to receive a power on signal.

The PS3 goes into standby after being powered off and on from the mains. The only way to turn it on without pressing the power button is from the 6-axis Bluetooth controller. So while there is a third part IR solution that works with a Harmony and can control many aspects of the PS3, it's unlikely there will ever be a remote solution for the PS3 that can turn it on, alas.

Larry

rettenhu
11-07-07, 08:06 AM
The PS3 goes into standby after being powered off and on from the mains. The only way to turn it on without pressing the power button is from the 6-axis Bluetooth controller. So while there is a third part IR solution that works with a Harmony and can control many aspects of the PS3, it's unlikely there will ever be a remote solution for the PS3 that can turn it on, alas.

Larry
This issue has also been discussed in this PS3 thread for anyone who is interested...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=761809

You'll also see in the latter portions of the thread that somebody has developed and is reslling a USB IR/Bluetooth adapter for the PS3 that works very nicely with the Harmony remote except for the mentioned Power On issue.

JayMan007
11-07-07, 09:10 AM
Now THAT is a GREAT TIP! I have a new Sony AVR (3300ES) that doesn't touch HDMI signals (they are passed through clean) so there is no volume overlay on the TV. The family really needs the "volume bar" feedback - I never thought of this approach. VERY VERY CLEVER! Many thanks again!!!

Chris LeMasters

Glad you liked that... I have to sync them every once and a while... I'll set my AVR to -20, then set the tv display to 20.

LastButNotLeast
11-07-07, 08:35 PM
Amazon. Now!

bskuared
11-07-07, 09:20 PM
Not sure what you mean by the keyboard light. Both the 670 and 880 have backlit keypads. The 670 and 880 are similar in design but the 880 has a color display and the 670 is only Monochrome. Actually the 570 is probably closer to the 880. The 570 and 880 perform the same but the physical design is different. Some prefer the key spacing and layout of the 570 while 880 lovers prefer the peanut shape. FYI: From time to time, Amazon.com offers genuine Logitech factory refurbished 880's for less than $100. If your worried about a refurbished unit, Amazon also offers a 2 year replacement warranty for an additional 19.99. If you don't see the Logitech 880 refurb on the Amazon site for just under $100... just keep checking the site. Amazon has them listed on their site at least once or twice every month but they sell out pretty fast. THe good news is if you wait a week or so they will be back on the site.

Ordered the refurbished from Amazon. Should be here Friday.... Thanks for the tip!

Empyrials
11-08-07, 04:47 PM
Ordered the refurbished from Amazon. Should be here Friday.... Thanks for the tip!

i as well just ordered one... on Tuesday, hopefully will be here Friday. I just Froogle'd it and it found ones on ebay and amazon for 99. I'm like a little kid on Christmas eve. The day can't come fast enough

pjrvero
11-08-07, 04:48 PM
Does anyone else have the Yamaha 1800 and the harmony 880. I have found that the Harmony is not showing any of the correct operations in the custom buttons. When I installed the software for the harmony I clicked the update button. Is there somewhere else I need to download the latest codes since the yamaha 1800 is a new product?

Thanks

beekeeper
11-09-07, 06:37 AM
Did you look at additional buttons and add them? If you did and there are still functions missing, then you will need to teach the harmony the operations and the next person will use your inputs. Try to keep the function names the same as the unit- such as "wide" to "wide" and not something new like "aspect", which you might like better but it confuses the next person.

joerod
11-09-07, 04:05 PM
I just ordered a REFURB from... Amazon baby! :D

strutter
11-09-07, 04:20 PM
I just ordered a REFURB from... Amazon baby! :D

with all the awesome equipment you have i would have guessed you to be more of a 1000 kind of guy. but i think you'll like the 880. you shouldnt have any problem controlling all your stuff as well as the TV in the wifes bar.

blazeblaze
11-09-07, 04:38 PM
I have had the 880 at home for about 1.5 years (and love it)...and recently ordered the Harmony 1000 for a conference room setup for work. While I think it is perfect for use in this conference room...I don't really think I would like the 1000 for use with my home entertainment system since I am too used to using a remote with one hand...and the 1000 is more of a two-handed remote. It is beautiful to look at though....and the screen is very nice.

Grandude
11-09-07, 06:58 PM
The problem with my remote is that the gold plating on the remote and cradle connections wears off and the dark metal underneath is not conductive. I took a soldering iron and with a dab of flux on each pin I put a little ball of solder on each connector, and when I put things back together it's charging like a banshee.

Why can't they just say that the problem was in the coating - not the cradle??
biglsar57
I agree with you. My remote quit charging except I could get it to charge once in a while by jigglying it around or shifting it slightly on the remote. Inspection of the contacts shows the wear is on the remote, not the charger cradle. I called and the second level tech said it sounded like I needed a new charger. I'm still waiting to see if they are sending me one.

In the meantime I dabbed conductive silver from a CircuitWorks Pen made by Chemtronics on all three contacts on the remote. I don't know how long this will last, but it proved it was the remote contacts and it charges instantly when I place it in the charger cradle.

I think that the big problem is that there wasn't/isn't enough weight for the charger to maintain solid contact with the contacts on the remote causing the contact(s) to burn from arcing. Just a theory, of course.

Ergo, I do not plan on leaving it in the charger except when needed to charge it up. I can go a few days before it drops the bars down a notch or two.

BTW, the tech said they were adding a magnet to the new chargers to help making positive contact and hopefully eliminate the problem.

Master843
11-09-07, 07:10 PM
I'm planning on buying an 880, considering a $99 refurb from Amazon but was wondering. With Black Friday 2 weeks away, do you know if Logitech ever offers good discounts that would make waiting the 2 weeks preferable? Also, I heard that they were replacing the cradles to try to eliminate the charging problem, would these refurbs have the new cradle and would there be a problem getting it replaced if it does start having the problem in the future considering it is a refurb?

bbgaten
11-09-07, 08:39 PM
I have a Harmony 880. The very first initital setup process was somehow interrupted and messed up during the process. I am not able to get the thing to work right. Is there is master reset function on the 880 to clear out whatever is in the memory, and let me program it afresh. Thanks.

JBaumgart
11-09-07, 10:09 PM
I have a Harmony 880. The very first initital setup process was somehow interrupted and messed up during the process. I am not able to get the thing to work right. Is there is master reset function on the 880 to clear out whatever is in the memory, and let me program it afresh. Thanks.

Assuming your devices were all entered correctly, with the correct brands and model numbers, just delete the activities that do show up and then add the activities that you want.

lchiu7
11-09-07, 11:31 PM
I agree with you. My remote quit charging except I could get it to charge once in a while by jigglying it around or shifting it slightly on the remote. Inspection of the contacts shows the wear is on the remote, not the charger cradle. I called and the second level tech said it sounded like I needed a new charger. I'm still waiting to see if they are sending me one.

In the meantime I dabbed conductive silver from a CircuitWorks Pen made by Chemtronics on all three contacts on the remote. I don't know how long this will last, but it proved it was the remote contacts and it charges instantly when I place it in the charger cradle.

I think that the big problem is that there wasn't/isn't enough weight for the charger to maintain solid contact with the contacts on the remote causing the contact(s) to burn from arcing. Just a theory, of course.

Ergo, I do not plan on leaving it in the charger except when needed to charge it up. I can go a few days before it drops the bars down a notch or two.

BTW, the tech said they were adding a magnet to the new chargers to help making positive contact and hopefully eliminate the problem.

I just encountered this posting. I am on my second base having RMA'ed the first (but Logitech didn't want it back). The second base is having problems getting aligned with the control to charge. So since I had a spare I tried dropping solder onto the contacts on the base. Fingers crossed but when I put the 880 on the base, it makes contact immediately and starts charging. Nice one!

As an aside the 880 uses a battery that used to be the standard battery for earlier Nokia cellphones. Having had a few of those phones I have spare batteries and chargers around so if worse comes to worse I can always charge my batteries externally and keep a charged on at hand.

Larry