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bernie33 12-13-07, 07:13 PM Well, that was the problem. Once I did what you suggested tokerblue and reset my sat box to IR, everything worked like a charm.
I have just one small little question....how do you get your LCD screen to default to the Activities Screen once you pick up the remote off the recharging base? It stays on my Activities screen if I just put it down and then pick it back up, but if I place it on the base, once I pick it up, my extra buttons screens seems to be the default. As it is right now, it defaults to my screen with the extra buttons (i.e. List, Active,.....)? Any advise on how to change the default screen to Activities once you pick it up off the base? Again, all help is appreciated!:D
If you press the Off button then the remote should change back to the Activities screen and show the Activities screen the next time you want to use it to turn on some equipment when choosing an activity. If you haven't pressed the Off button the Harmony thinks you are still doing that Activity and should leave that screen up, regardless of whether you put it in the base or not. Is yours behaving differently?
LastButNotLeast 12-13-07, 08:58 PM Yes. Go to "Power settings" for the A30 Device and select "A command for On, and a different command for Off". Assign "Eject" as the On command, and "PowerOff" for Off
This is SO cool. Many thanks. I have copied this to the A2 forum.
VideoBoy58 12-13-07, 09:12 PM You're in device mode until you go back to your activity. Pressing Activity twice will return the 880 to the most recent activity. But it won't switch your input back.
I love this forum. Do a search and you can find what you want to know.
Thanks bweissman.
peterthegreat 12-14-07, 10:59 AM If you press the Off button then the remote should change back to the Activities screen and show the Activities screen the next time you want to use it to turn on some equipment when choosing an activity. If you haven't pressed the Off button the Harmony thinks you are still doing that Activity and should leave that screen up, regardless of whether you put it in the base or not. Is yours behaving differently?
I think I understand now. If I use it to use the Watch TV activity and once I am watching TV and put the remote back down in the charger, it will stay with the Watch TV activity on the screen. However, if I actually turn off everything and then put it on the charger, when I then pick it back up, it will then show the Activity screen. That makes sense now. I kinda wanted it to bring me back to me Activity screen after I initially turn everything on and just put the remote back down into the charger while watching TV. Is there a way to get the remote to always show the Activities Screen no matter if you turn everything off or if you are simply laying the remote back down on the charger while watching TV?:confused:
craig_wagner 12-14-07, 12:32 PM Is there a way to get the remote to always show the Activities Screen no matter if you turn everything off or if you are simply laying the remote back down on the charger while watching TV?:confused:
The assumption is that once you are in the activity you would want quick access to the functionality of that activity, and that you would be accessing those commands more frequently than you would be switching activities. Thus, it makes more sense to leave you in the activity after starting it than to switch you back to the main menu.
You can always just press the Activities button manually if you really want to be on that main menu, but my guess is that over time you'll find it to be a bigger pain to be on the main menu than to stay in the activity that is currently active.
Did he have to learn the codes from the HDMI switch remote or was it in the database? If in the database, do you know where? I have the HS-41A0 from Monoprice and can't find it in the database.
Under what type of device did you find it?
Thanks for your help,
Jim
Under Amplifier Then under Audio/Video Switch
Where is everybody?????
I was taking a nap! ;)
mx6bfast 12-17-07, 02:35 PM Where is everybody?????
Waiting for my replacement 880 to arrive.
strutter 12-17-07, 03:28 PM Where is everybody?????
pursuing other threads whilst drankin' a beer.:D
ras1325 12-17-07, 05:44 PM Hi, I've tried to find this info in the thread but 117 pages is a lot to dig through, so sorry if it's a common problem...
I'd like for the Volume on the 880 to control my AVR when the remote is in PVR mode. I never use the PVR Volume and switching between the devices on the remote every time I want to change a channel and then change the volume seems silly. Any advice? Thanks.
bernie33 12-17-07, 07:04 PM Hi, I've tried to find this info in the thread but 117 pages is a lot to dig through, so sorry if it's a common problem...
I'd like for the Volume on the 880 to control my AVR when the remote is in PVR mode. I never use the PVR Volume and switching between the devices on the remote every time I want to change a channel and then change the volume seems silly. Any advice? Thanks.
It was answered most recently on page 116: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12424305&postcount=3452
Hi, I've tried to find this info in the thread but 117 pages is a lot to dig through, so sorry if it's a common problem...
I'd like for the Volume on the 880 to control my AVR when the remote is in PVR mode. I never use the PVR Volume and switching between the devices on the remote every time I want to change a channel and then change the volume seems silly. Any advice? Thanks.
Use your Watch PVR ACTIVITY....don't select the PVR device.
ras1325 12-17-07, 08:48 PM Thanks, I just read the first few pages, not the last few. Is there any way to do this without using activities? I'd rather permanently lock the volume to the stereo than use a bunch of different activities. Thanks
Grandude 12-17-07, 09:46 PM Thanks, I just read the first few pages, not the last few. Is there any way to do this without using activities? I'd rather permanently lock the volume to the stereo than use a bunch of different activities. Thanks
It seems to me that you are defeating the real reason for owning the 880. Activities are the way the 880 operates. I know of no way to do what you want with the 880. Perhaps you purchased the wrong remote for your purposes.
bernie33 12-17-07, 09:53 PM Thanks, I just read the first few pages, not the last few. Is there any way to do this without using activities? I'd rather permanently lock the volume to the stereo than use a bunch of different activities. Thanks
Yes, of course. That is what almost everyone does and the way the remote expects you to do things. First, go back and read the instructions that I referenced above. Apparently when you set up your Harmony you didn't tell it that the stereo should be used to control the volume for every activity. The instructions that I referenced tell you how to do that. Or just go back and setup your Harmony again and for each activity tell it that the stereo controls the volume.
It is possible that you have misunderstood the way the Harmony works, and that would certainly lead to confusion. Don't think of it as a single piece of hardware that replaces all of the separate pieces of hardware that you ahd before. Think of it as a device that knows what you want to do and helps you do it. For instance, if you want to watch TV, pick the TV activity (or DVR activity). Then the Harmony is set to do everything you need to do to watch TV. It can change channels, adjust the volume (through your stereo) show you the list of things you've recorded if you're using a DVR, and so on. When you're through watching TV just push the Off button on the Harmony and it will turn off everything that it should. Or if you want to switch to watching a DVD press the Activity button and then pick DVD. The Harmony will turn off any unnecessary devices, turn on your DVD player, show you buttons to control your DVD player and the Volume and Mute controls will still control your stereo.
Hope that helps. A lot of times people don't recognize how useful the concept of Activities are and what a wonderful device the Harmony is. Once people stop trying to simulate all of their old, individual remotes and truly take advantage of the integrated remote they love it. Your family may grasp the idea immediately because finally they have a remote that just does what they want and they don't have to figure out which remotes to use and which settings to switch.
I think activities are the best feature of this remote. Certainly makes life easier for non techno users (once you have done the programming). My main question about activities is that, let's say you have an activity that is to watch the DVD player. It turns on the TV (projector), turns on the DVD player, turns on the VR and sets it to the right input and go. All well and good. The volume is controller by the AVR.
But let's say you want to access some of the more esoteric features of the DVD player (or BR or HD-DVD player) so you have to select Device and then that device. Could be adjust surround sound setup, choose bitstream or PCM audio etc. So the 880 has all those extra controls now available to access. But now the volume doesn't work - the volume is now mapped back to the volume control (if one exists) for the player. To get back you have to reselect the activity which usually isn't a problem but a nuisance.
Small price to pay I guess for the power of the unit.
Larry
bernie33 12-17-07, 10:36 PM I think activities are the best feature of this remote. Certainly makes life easier for non techno users (once you have done the programming). My main question about activities is that, let's say you have an activity that is to watch the DVD player. It turns on the TV (projector), turns on the DVD player, turns on the VR and sets it to the right input and go. All well and good. The volume is controller by the AVR.
But let's say you want to access some of the more esoteric features of the DVD player (or BR or HD-DVD player) so you have to select Device and then that device. Could be adjust surround sound setup, choose bitstream or PCM audio etc. So the 880 has all those extra controls now available to access. But now the volume doesn't work - the volume is now mapped back to the volume control (if one exists) for the player. To get back you have to reselect the activity which usually isn't a problem but a nuisance.
Small price to pay I guess for the power of the unit.
Larry
It is easier than that. And there are two approaches. Without any extra effort on your part, after you've made the adjustments to the device, just hit the Device button again. You'll be back in the Activity that you were in before you went into Device mode and the volume control will be working as before.
If you want to do more work and there are some functions on a device that you know you want to access frequently enough so that you don't want to bother with the Device button, you cna map those keys to buttons within the activity so they are more convenient (they'll still available in Device mode). I don't recall which functions I chose to do that with vs which started out that way, but for instance, I have an Aspect button in all my video Activities, and I have a "Next Input" button in some of them.
Bernie
It is easier than that. And there are two approaches. Without any extra effort on your part, after you've made the adjustments to the device, just hit the Device button again. You'll be back in the Activity that you were in before you went into Device mode and the volume control will be working as before...
Bernie
Didn't realise that - that's useful to know. Thanks
Larry
puravida 12-19-07, 01:05 PM In the harmony 880, is it possible to create this sequence:
-power on dvd player
-wait 5 minutes untill dvd player is fully booted
-switch video port to hdmi2
Thanks in advance.
Why would you want to wait 5 minutes for the DVD player? Even my XA1 HD-DVD first generationToshiba will be booted in 55 seconds. Set the Power on Delay for your DVD player under device to 60000MS(1 minute). Then use the sequence.
Play(Turns on 90% of DVD Players)
InputHDMI2
puravida 12-19-07, 01:33 PM Thanks Ed,
The reason is an hdmi handshake issue on the xa2. the xa2 needs to be fully powered before switching to its input or else the player will shutdown after a few minutes. I know, its strange but true.
maybe 5 minutes is overkill.
How does "power on delay" work anyway? By the name of it, it sounds like the remote will wait 1 minute before powering up the dvd. What I want to do is power up the dvd, then wait 1 minute or so for the remote to execute its next command which would be InputHDMI2
Thanks again.
I see what you are attempting to do now. If the TV is off you could set the Power on Delay for the TV to something greater than 1 minute. You would not need a sequence, just an activity to Watch a DVD. The Power on Delay will turn the device on but wait 1 minute in the above case before sending the device another command. Remember, you must keep the 880 pointed at the equipment until all IR signals have been sent. In this case a little over 1 minute.
I turn on my HDMI XA-2 and everything else at the same time without problems.
puravida 12-19-07, 02:25 PM I see what you are attempting to do now. If the TV is off you could set the Power on Delay for the TV to something greater than 1 minute. You would not need a sequence, just an activity to Watch a DVD. The Power on Delay will turn the device on but wait 1 minute in the above case before sending the device another command. Remember, you must keep the 880 pointed at the equipment until all IR signals have been sent. In this case a little over 1 minute.
yes, i was thinking about your "power on delay" idea but appying it to the display instead, as you already said. But you're right, that would only work if the tv was off to begin with.
I guess I could just keep the dvd player on all the time..
puravida 12-19-07, 02:33 PM I turn on my HDMI XA-2 and everything else at the same time without problems.
Gary,
So you switch to your dvd input before the player is all the way up? What is the players firmware? It is my understanding that not all XA2s have this "bug".
Thanks.
Anyone using their 880 with Tosh HD-A3? Just picked up the A3 this past weekend and I got the commands on my 880 already setup with the A3. I dont know if its the 880 or the player but apparently I have to point the remote directly at the player in order for it to work. Any suggestions?
Jagged68 12-19-07, 06:20 PM Anyone using their 880 with Tosh HD-A3? Just picked up the A3 this past weekend and I got the commands on my 880 already setup with the A3. I dont know if its the 880 or the player but apparently I have to point the remote directly at the player in order for it to work. Any suggestions?
I have the 880 and A3 and have no problems with it. Then again i always point the remote at the tv, i thought that's what you are supposed to do.
Gary,
So you switch to your dvd input before the player is all the way up? What is the players firmware? It is my understanding that not all XA2s have this "bug".
Thanks.
Firmware is 2.5 and I turn on everything with the 880 one after another within a matter of a couple of seconds.
HDAlien 12-20-07, 08:20 AM Question: Mine is on the way today so I haven't started programming yet. My question is about power on my pre/pro, it's a toggle type (Krell Showcase), so if I set up an activity to "Watch TV" which will power on pre/pro, amps, tv etc. and I set up another activity to "Watch DVD", will the 880 be smart enough to know that the pre/pro and amps are already on and to just switch inputs? I.e. sometimes I go from watching TV to watching a DVD, and other times I power up and watch a DVD.
Hope that makes sense.
VA HDman 12-20-07, 08:38 AM Yes the 880 is smart enough to know which devices are already powered when you switch activitites. In addition, it will ask you to confirm that the new activitity commands switched everything correctly. You don't have to respond to this confirmation, but if you say it did not switch correctly the 880 will start a sequence of questions. The first ones generally are directed to the power status of the devices.
HDAlien 12-20-07, 09:22 AM Perfect, thanks!
Hi,
Does anyone here have more than one 880, and if you do, how do you separate the setups on the Harmony website? Do I have to open two accounts, or is there a way to manage both remotes under the same account?
EDIT: cancel that question, I found the answer on the Harmony website:
"If you have two Remotes (one for the living room and a second different remote for the bedroom), and your email address is "abc@def.com", we recommend you create two separate user configurations:"
murxy87 12-23-07, 01:48 AM Just got the 880 yesterday and I'm having a problem that I can't figure out. I have a Sharp Aquos 37D62U tv and to switch inputs you have to toggle between them. I've set the appropriate settings in the remote but it still will not change to the right input when I press the watch tv or watch dvd activity button. Has anyone seen this problem before with a sharp hdtv? what else can i do?
Just got the 880 yesterday and I'm having a problem that I can't figure out. I have a Sharp Aquos 37D62U tv and to switch inputs you have to toggle between them. I've set the appropriate settings in the remote but it still will not change to the right input when I press the watch tv or watch dvd activity button. Has anyone seen this problem before with a sharp hdtv? what else can i do?
Tell the 880 you have buttons that are input 1 input 2 etc. The 880 will know how to directly input the right connection.
SnellKrell 12-23-07, 10:44 AM Also, if you look at the various entries in the "Devices" menu, you may very well find discrete codes for each of your Inputs.
I have an older Sharp 37, the 37D90U and was pleased to find the needed codes. Logitech/Harmony had them in its data bank.
Look for them.
mtntech 12-23-07, 02:06 PM Heres the system I am setting up: D-TV HR-20 -> Onkyo TX-SR 605 -> Sony KDL V32 XBR1 (connected via hdmi). Everything is working fine.
I also have a cd, dvd, and listen to radio (as well as watch tv) set up and working correctly on the 880.
What I'd like to accomplish is a parallel activity within the system (watch the DTV HR-20 -> Sony KDL V32 XBR1, via componet and stereo analog cables from the HR20 to the TV and with the 605 in Standby ("off").
Can and how do I do this? Set up watch PVR and Watch TV as separate activities?
Heres the system I am setting up: D-TV HR-20 -> Onkyo TX-SR 605 -> Sony KDL V32 XBR1 (connected via hdmi). Everything is working fine.
I also have a cd, dvd, and listen to radio (as well as watch tv) set up and working correctly on the 880.
What I'd like to accomplish is a parallel activity within the system (watch the DTV HR-20 -> Sony KDL V32 XBR1, via componet and stereo analog cables from the HR20 to the TV and with the 605 in Standby ("off").
Can and how do I do this? Set up watch PVR and Watch TV as separate activities?
Sure, just set up and rename a second activity to your liking.
mtntech 12-23-07, 07:39 PM Works Great! Reprogramming the Harmony took much longer than running the cables.
One thing I have to do manually (with a custom key on the screen of the harmony) is change the format. DTV going straight to the TV handles the 4:3 differently than does the 605. One more thing to work out!
Works Great! Reprogramming the Harmony took much longer than running the cables.
One thing I have to do manually (with a custom key on the screen of the harmony) is change the format. DTV going straight to the TV handles the 4:3 differently than does the 605. One more thing to work out!
Setting up the Harmony is usually super quick. Getting it perfect is eternal and "priceless". ;)
Then start setting up favorites with icons...:eek:
thebard 12-23-07, 09:25 PM Works Great! Reprogramming the Harmony took much longer than running the cables.
One thing I have to do manually (with a custom key on the screen of the harmony) is change the format. DTV going straight to the TV handles the 4:3 differently than does the 605. One more thing to work out!
You should be able to add this command to the startup of your activity, so it executes automatically.
mtntech 12-23-07, 11:17 PM I will try this, yet there may be a problem. If I execute activity "Watch TV" (DTV-> TV) and have DTV on pillar box and turn off tv. Later I execute activity "Watch PVR" (DTV->AVR->TV) I now press format a single time. If I turn off tv and Watch PVR a second time it will complete the command again, thereby changing the format.
What is usually the case, we will Watch TV repeatedly through the week, then only Watch PVR on weekends (sports and movies). The repeated use of format (when starting each respective activity) will likely cycle through the various crop modes and will have to be manually corrected anyway.
I did a dry run with the programming as I have it now (without your suggestion) and will report back after I try adding it to the activity tomorrow.
HDAlien 12-24-07, 09:24 AM I got mine last week, and aside from the learning curve being a bit steep I'm loving mine so far.
mxylplekk 12-24-07, 10:11 AM I got my 880 last week and like it for the most part.
I use it for my DVR, TV, and Yamaha RX-v1600 receiver. The only problem I have is some funtions with the receiver. I can get the 880 to switch the audio format to Stereo (for when I am listening to music) but can't get it to switch to Surround. Anyone have any experience or suggestions on this? I have even tried learning the function from the yamaha remote but it still doesn't work.
MetallimaN 12-24-07, 10:16 AM Quick question dealing with the 880. I have programmed the watch tv button to switch to hdmi but if I am on component(for the wii) and want to switch back to watching tv, it doesnt change inputs. The only way for me to change inputs is to go through the device button and choose the correct input. How can I make sure that it switches inputs when I push the watch tv button.
Thanks
I got my 880 last week and like it for the most part.
I use it for my DVR, TV, and Yamaha RX-v1600 receiver. The only problem I have is some funtions with the receiver. I can get the 880 to switch the audio format to Stereo (for when I am listening to music) but can't get it to switch to Surround. Anyone have any experience or suggestions on this? I have even tried learning the function from the yamaha remote but it still doesn't work.
Call Tech Support (maybe after the holiday rush) and let them help you tweak it. They're really good at getting things that are troublesome to work.
bernie33 12-24-07, 01:11 PM Quick question dealing with the 880. I have programmed the watch tv button to switch to hdmi but if I am on component(for the wii) and want to switch back to watching tv, it doesnt change inputs. The only way for me to change inputs is to go through the device button and choose the correct input. How can I make sure that it switches inputs when I push the watch tv button.
Thanks
I setup two different activities, one for watching TV and a different one for using our Wii. Well, three activities actually, one for watching TV (which we almost never use), one for watching the DVR which is what we almost always use whether watching live or recorded TV, and a third for the Wii. If the Wii isn't already on, or if the TV doesn't see the Wii signal for some other reason, then simply pushing the Help button ion the Harmony fixes the problem for us.
Bernie
mtntech 12-24-07, 08:13 PM You should be able to add this command to the startup of your activity, so it executes automatically.
O.K. got it! With my setup I had to add the command "Format" once after all the components are powered up under the activity "Watch PVR", AND, add the command "Format", "Format" twice prior to powering down under the activity "Watch PVR". This results on the switching being done less frequently than under our tendency to watch TV without using the AVR.
I have yet to see if the same sequence will need to be added to "Watch DVD". If it does, no problem now!
Thank you again!
craig_wagner 12-24-07, 09:10 PM I use it for my DVR, TV, and Yamaha RX-v1600 receiver. The only problem I have is some funtions with the receiver.
I've got an RX-V1500, but I'm pretty sure the command set is the same. I found that many of the DSP modes that were listed in the Logitech database were wrong or mislabeled. I ended up sending them a bunch of Pronto hex codes that I knew worked (because I'd used them with my Pronto) and had them add them to my configuration.
I'm not sure why you'd have problems with codes learned from the remote though.
If the Wii isn't already on, or if the TV doesn't see the Wii signal for some other reason, then simply pushing the Help button ion the Harmony fixes the problem for us.
Bernie
That's most likely a timing issue. Try playing with delays or rearranging the start order.
allsop4now 12-25-07, 03:22 PM Is there a way to hook this up to RF somehow? I know very little about that but if so, would that eliminate the need to keep the thing pointed at my tv for 15 seconds while it scrolls vid inputs? It's very annoying and hard to explain to housesitters etc. If I could just press watch DVD and put the remote down it would be soooo much better. Do I need the 890 for this? Thanks.
I did not think about this issue before I ordered the 885 (EU version of 880) so now I have canceled the order and get 895 (EU version of 890) instead.
My present remote supplied with my (erh, our) receiver is quite lacking and is difficult to use for my family for SACD or DVD playback as there are too many components that has to be turned on with corresponding inputs selected.
Good thing thing that I get the 895 for the 885 MSRP :-) On the other hand the 885 is much cheaper ;-(
Shadowknight 12-25-07, 07:21 PM Got a refurbished 880 today, and I THINK it's dead. When I put it on the cradle for the first time, the LCD backlight came on for a second and then went dark. I've moved it around on the cradle to make sure I get a good connection so it can charge, but the remote doesn't even show that it's charging.
I've heard that there are some remotes out there that have bases that make a very poor connection to the remote for charging it. Is that's what's going on? Or do you get a blank screen while it charges up for the very first time, since the battery is completely dead?
bernie33 12-25-07, 07:56 PM Got a refurbished 880 today, and I THINK it's dead. When I put it on the cradle for the first time, the LCD backlight came on for a second and then went dark. I've moved it around on the cradle to make sure I get a good connection so it can charge, but the remote doesn't even show that it's charging.
I've heard that there are some remotes out there that have bases that make a very poor connection to the remote for charging it. Is that's what's going on? Or do you get a blank screen while it charges up for the very first time, since the battery is completely dead?
When the remote is off the base you should see a blue glow from part of the base. When you place the remote on the base you should hear a beep sound and the display should show something like two remotes intersecting for a brief time and then it will go dark.
balpers 12-25-07, 08:17 PM The logos found here:
http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4380112
work very well on the 880. Because the only reason to use these logos would be if you are already subscribing to the channels, I assume there is no copyright infringement involved.
Burt
mxylplekk 12-26-07, 09:27 AM I've got an RX-V1500, but I'm pretty sure the command set is the same. I found that many of the DSP modes that were listed in the Logitech database were wrong or mislabeled. I ended up sending them a bunch of Pronto hex codes that I knew worked (because I'd used them with my Pronto) and had them add them to my configuration.
I'm not sure why you'd have problems with codes learned from the remote though.
Apparently I wasn't doing the learn function correctly. I called tech support and they walked me through the RAW learn. Much better now.
mxylplekk 12-26-07, 09:28 AM Call Tech Support (maybe after the holiday rush) and let them help you tweak it. They're really good at getting things that are troublesome to work.
I called Tech support on x-mas and was surprised to get right through to someone. They were extremely helpful. A bunch of the codes in the database were incorrect but through trial and error we figured out which worked. The best part of their support is that they can access your online account and make all the changes for you. sweet.
Richr 13 12-26-07, 09:56 AM Just got my 880 on Christmas eve. I had it up and running in just a few hours. I am coming from an MX700 and I must say, I love this thing. I thought that it was not going to be as flexible as the MX, but so far I have been able to easily program any scenario I could dream up. I love the way you can switch activities on the fly with one button push. Awesome unit!
One question I could use help trying to figure out. I currently have a Yamaha RX-V2400and wnt to figure out a way to specify a particular volume level at start-up? I also added a Hot Links IR blaster. What a combo!
LastButNotLeast 12-26-07, 10:49 AM currently have a Yamaha RX-V2400and wnt to figure out a way to specify a particular volume level at start-up?
If you CAN do it with your original remote, then you can do it with the Harmony. If you CAN'T do it with your original remote, then you are not likely able to do it with the Harmony. It's a great remote, but it won't add features to your receiver that it doesn't have.:)
BTW, I added "mute" as part of my power off command so my receiver is always muted when it's turned back on. Just add it to power on OR power off (not both).
If you CAN do it with your original remote, then you can do it with the Harmony. If you CAN'T do it with your original remote, then you are not likely able to do it with the Harmony. It's a great remote, but it won't add features to your receiver that it doesn't have.:)
BTW, I added "mute" as part of my power off command so my receiver is always muted when it's turned back on. Just add it to power on OR power off (not both).
True and not true. Some remotes don't have discrete codes for certain commands (ie. direct input selection) yet internally it works and Harmony has it. One personal example is my Mits TV remote doesn't have an ENTER key. Yet Harmony had one in it's list. By using it after a channel change it speeds it up by a bunch! Who knew? Moral, go through the devices list of commands and see what they all do and how you can use them!
craig_wagner 12-26-07, 01:37 PM I currently have a Yamaha RX-V2400 and want to figure out a way to specify a particular volume level at start-up?
You should be able to do this, but you'll need to get Logitech to add some Pronto hex codes to your profile. I have an RX-V1500 and it supports volume memory storage and recall (although you'll find no mention of this feature in the manual or on the remote). I have four different preset volume levels and the remote recalls the correct level for the activity.
I have the entire command set in an Excel file at home (at work at the moment). If you send me an email (craig(dot)wagner(at)gmail(dot)com) I'll send it to you. You can extract the ones you want and send them to support to get them added to your profile. Then I added the memset and memrecall commands to Device mode for the receiver and set everything up.
Crazytrekker 12-27-07, 07:03 AM I've been using the Harmony 885 for about a year now without any major hassles. However, last weekend I programmed my remote for a new Sony PVR (RDR-HXD870). All of the functions appear to be working okay but, for some reason, the remote doesn't switch the player on/off whilst in "Watch PVR" Activity mode. However, when in Device mode the power on/off button works fine.
I tried the "Help" function on the remote but no joy.
The power programming is clearly okay. It's baffling. Does anybody know why it might not be working in Activity mode?
John
chinadog 12-27-07, 07:44 AM Noticed ths for the first time the other day. If I pull up the favorites menu to go to a specific channel, the pause and play buttons for the DVR will not work. I actually have to get out of the favorites menu for them to function correctly. Anyone else experience this and get around it?
Bud
LivingLargeInHD 12-27-07, 08:00 AM I have a question about having 2 DVD players of the same make. I have 2 Panny DVD players (1 Blu-Ray and 1 Upconverter), one is above the other on the shelf under the TV. All of my equipment is located on the shelves of the TV Stand I have. Whenever I hit the button Watch Blu-Ray from watching TV, everything works fine with the Blu-Ray player (set up to use HMDI 1), but somehow my Panny Upconverter DVD player also turns on and seems to "intercept" the eject command I have for the Blu-Ray player? The Panny Upconverter DVD player is HDMI directly to the TV and uses HDMI 3. The Blu-Ray player is HDMI into my Receiver. I have an entire seperate Activity for watching regular DVD's using only that player. The upconverting DVD player is not a device as part of my sequence for Watching Blu-Ray. I even have a setting that states "all other devices to off" so it should turn off any other devices, thus the Upconverter DVD player and my Directv box. The box does shut off, but somehow the upconverter DVD player not only gets turned on and ejects (the Blu-Ray player does not eject when this happens) but remains on. How do I set this activity up so that the Panny Upconverter DVD player does not "intercept" my Panny Blu-Ray activity commands in the sequence? My Blu-Ray settings are:
Blu-Ray On
TV On
Receiver On
All Other Devices Off
TV set to HDMI 1
Receiver set to DVD
Blu-Ray eject
anyone with any advice?
HDAlien 12-27-07, 08:46 AM True and not true. Some remotes don't have discrete codes for certain commands (ie. direct input selection) yet internally it works and Harmony has it. One personal example is my Mits TV remote doesn't have an ENTER key. Yet Harmony had one in it's list. By using it after a channel change it speeds it up by a bunch! Who knew? Moral, go through the devices list of commands and see what they all do and how you can use them!
This is true, my Samsung tv doesn't have discrete inputs on the remote yet the Harmony can switch it directly to whatever input I need.
mxylplekk 12-27-07, 09:30 AM The logos found here:
http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4380112
work very well on the 880. Because the only reason to use these logos would be if you are already subscribing to the channels, I assume there is no copyright infringement involved.
Burt
How do you use these? I assume you add them to the soft keys. What is the easiest way to do that? My wife would love this.
How do you use these? I assume you add them to the soft keys. What is the easiest way to do that? My wife would love this.
Load channels into 880's Media Key function, which is an option under your cable and/or sat device.
balpers 12-27-07, 12:15 PM How do you use these? I assume you add them to the soft keys. What is the easiest way to do that? My wife would love this.
jcpom is correct. You add the logos to the Media keys (don't ask me why Logitech calls them Media keys).
There may be an easier way, but here is the sequence I use:
1. Go to the DirecTv website by following the link I posted.
2. Find a logo you want and right-click it, then choose Copy
3. Paste it into your favorite graphics program and save it as a jpg file.
Repeat the above for all the logos you want.
Open the Harmony Remote program.
Click Settings|Set up Favorite Channels|Next.
For each favorite channel you want to set up, type in the DirecTV channel number;
Click Select Image|Browse. Find the logo you want, select it, and save when finished.
Hope this helps,
Burt
TikiJim 12-27-07, 02:32 PM Anyone have a Harmony 659? I am looking at getting a Harmony and dont want to spend alot of $$$. Please advise. Thanks.
bernie33 12-27-07, 04:02 PM I have a question about having 2 DVD players of the same make. I have 2 Panny DVD players (1 Blu-Ray and 1 Upconverter), one is above the other on the shelf under the TV. All of my equipment is located on the shelves of the TV Stand I have. Whenever I hit the button Watch Blu-Ray from watching TV, everything works fine with the Blu-Ray player (set up to use HMDI 1), but somehow my Panny Upconverter DVD player also turns on and seems to "intercept" the eject command I have for the Blu-Ray player? The Panny Upconverter DVD player is HDMI directly to the TV and uses HDMI 3. The Blu-Ray player is HDMI into my Receiver. I have an entire seperate Activity for watching regular DVD's using only that player. The upconverting DVD player is not a device as part of my sequence for Watching Blu-Ray. I even have a setting that states "all other devices to off" so it should turn off any other devices, thus the Upconverter DVD player and my Directv box. The box does shut off, but somehow the upconverter DVD player not only gets turned on and ejects (the Blu-Ray player does not eject when this happens) but remains on. How do I set this activity up so that the Panny Upconverter DVD player does not "intercept" my Panny Blu-Ray activity commands in the sequence? My Blu-Ray settings are:
Blu-Ray On
TV On
Receiver On
All Other Devices Off
TV set to HDMI 1
Receiver set to DVD
Blu-Ray eject
anyone with any advice?
If you use the remote that came with either of your Panasonic DVD players, when you press the power button does it turn both of them on and off? It is common for similar devices within a brand to use the same codes and it sounds like that is what is happening in your case. If that is the case then there is nothing that you can do.
I've been using the Harmony 885 for about a year now without any major hassles. However, last weekend I programmed my remote for a new Sony PVR (RDR-HXD870). All of the functions appear to be working okay but, for some reason, the remote doesn't switch the player on/off whilst in "Watch PVR" Activity mode. However, when in Device mode the power on/off button works fine.
I tried the "Help" function on the remote but no joy.
The power programming is clearly okay. It's baffling. Does anybody know why it might not be working in Activity mode?
John
Go to "Power settings" for the PVR device and make sure the assigned power commands are the same as the ones you found that work in Device mode.
JBaumgart 12-27-07, 06:05 PM Anyone have a Harmony 659? I am looking at getting a Harmony and dont want to spend alot of $$$. Please advise. Thanks.
My first Harmony was a 659 and I still use it with my system in the basement. I've never had a problem with it after 3-4 years and I've always liked the button layout. The setup is very easy also (same as the 880).
Crazytrekker 12-27-07, 09:02 PM Go to "Power settings" for the PVR device and make sure the assigned power commands are the same as the ones you found that work in Device mode.
They are indeed. They are both set to "PowerToggle". Still no luck...
They are indeed. They are both set to "PowerToggle". Still no luck...
Well that is a problem, but maybe not your only problem. You shouldn't have it set up with "both" On and Off as "Powertoggle". If you use the "A button for On, and a different button for Off" option, you MUST use a "PowerOn" and a "PowerOff" command...ie they MUST be different commands (discretes).
If your device only has a "Powertoggle", then you must set it up as "One button for both On and Off".
If you change that and it still doesn't work, try increasing the Inter Device Delay for the PVR device. Increase it to something way too big (like 5 seconds) to confirm that is the problem. If it fixes it you can reduce the delay to something more manageable.
You could also try re-learning the PowerToggle command just in case...
If you still don't have any joy, phone tech support.
LivingLargeInHD 12-28-07, 10:01 AM If you use the remote that came with either of your Panasonic DVD players, when you press the power button does it turn both of them on and off? It is common for similar devices within a brand to use the same codes and it sounds like that is what is happening in your case. If that is the case then there is nothing that you can do.
Yep, the remotes are indentical for both DVD players and they were able to control each other with either remote before I got the 880. Oh well, I guess I am SOL :(. I have to approach the DVD player to put the disc in anyway, so I could simply turn it off manually at that time and eject the tray for the Blu-Ray player. It really is not a big deal, but I thought there was something I could do that I was unaware of. Thanks for the info.
craig_wagner 12-28-07, 11:04 AM Yep, the remotes are indentical for both DVD players and they were able to control each other with either remote before I got the 880.
Not really related to the remote, but doesn't the Blu-ray player do upconversion, rendering the upconverting player redundant?
blitzen102 12-28-07, 11:36 AM When I select "Watch TV" -- which uses my TV, PVR, and AV Receiver, the deice that is active after the command complete is my TV. How can I change it so that my PVR is the active device on the 880 when the "Watch TV" command completes?
Sorry, this question has probably been answered somewhere in the 3500+ posts in this thread, I tried searching but couldn't find the answer.
Thanks!
JBaumgart 12-28-07, 12:06 PM When I select "Watch TV" -- which uses my TV, PVR, and AV Receiver, the deice that is active after the command complete is my TV. How can I change it so that my PVR is the active device on the 880 when the "Watch TV" command completes?
Sorry, this question has probably been answered somewhere in the 3500+ posts in this thread, I tried searching but couldn't find the answer.
Thanks!
Sounds like you want to go back and re-do your activities. It should be all automatic if you answer the questions correctly. If you are using your receiver wouldn't you want that to control your volume? The PVR would be active to switch channels, record programs, etc.
blitzen102 12-28-07, 12:38 PM Sounds like you want to go back and re-do your activities. It should be all automatic if you answer the questions correctly. If you are using your receiver wouldn't you want that to control your volume? The PVR would be active to switch channels, record programs, etc.
I've gone through the set-up a few times. Volume and channel changing buttons ARE working correctly (receiver and PVR respectively). I want the PVR's buttons to be in the LCD button screen (NOT the TVs) since I use many of them frequently like "Favorites", "30 Second Skip", "Swap Tuners", etc.
Lighting Guy 12-28-07, 12:46 PM You can customize your buttons within an activity. I forget the exact terms since I don't have it sitting in front of me, but I know you go to the settings of an activity, and its something like customize buttons. Someone else can chime in with the exact option you want. Then there will be a tab for additional buttons where you can customize to your heart's content. Hope that helps a little.
blitzen102 12-28-07, 12:48 PM You can customize your buttons within an activity. I forget the exact terms since I don't have it sitting in front of me, but I know you go to the settings of an activity, and it may be advanced options, or button options. Someone else can chime in with the exact option you want. Then there will be a tab for the LCD screen buttons where you can customize to your heart's content. Hope that helps a little.
Ok, so you can customize the buttons in the LCD screen for an ACTIVITY as well as for a DEVICE, eh? Ok, I'll give that a shot tonight.
Thanks!
Yep, the remotes are indentical for both DVD players and they were able to control each other with either remote before I got the 880. Oh well, I guess I am SOL :(. I have to approach the DVD player to put the disc in anyway, so I could simply turn it off manually at that time and eject the tray for the Blu-Ray player. It really is not a big deal, but I thought there was something I could do that I was unaware of. Thanks for the info.
Two things that might work:
1. Check the manuals for each player to see whether it is possible to set one of them to use a different command set.
2. Try describing your problem on remotecentral.com. Many professional installers check that site and you might get another suggestion.
bernie33 12-28-07, 08:13 PM When I select "Watch TV" -- which uses my TV, PVR, and AV Receiver, the deice that is active after the command complete is my TV. How can I change it so that my PVR is the active device on the 880 when the "Watch TV" command completes?
Sorry, this question has probably been answered somewhere in the 3500+ posts in this thread, I tried searching but couldn't find the answer.
Thanks!
Blitzen102, you may have figured this out already, but in case you haven't, it sounds like you are thinking of the Harmony as just another remote that happens to be able to turn on the correct devices for an activity. To benefit from the Harmony, and especially for your family and guests to benefit, you have to think of it differently - as a remote that actually knows what you are doing and integrates all of the devices.
So when you choose the "Watch TV" Activity, for instance, the Harmony will tunr on the three pieces of equipment that you need, and set them to the correct inputs/outputs. And it will leave the buttons on the Harmony ready to control the correct devices. When you push the volume or mute buttons it knows that it should use your AVR to adjust the volume, when you change stations it knows that it should use the PVR to change stations, etc. If you press the fast forward/rewind or skip ahead/back buttons on the Harmony it knows that it should do them on the PVR. (If you push those same buttons while you're in the "Watch DVD" Activity it will automatically control the DVD player.)
You should very rarely ever have to touch the Device button on the Harmony. If there are some actions that you do need to do regularly that do not appear on the Activity softkeys you can change the softkeys or add another page. nd don't forget how valuable the Help button on the 880 can be in getting things right if some device is not in the right mode.
Bernie
ArmyMedicGuy 12-28-07, 11:03 PM Hello,
My first post here. Im sure this has been asked, but couldnt really fint it amongst the 3000 harmony 880 posts.. :)
Can anyone direct me to a site that shows the differences between the harmony 880 advanced and the harmony 880 PRO?? Thank you.
B..
You should very rarely ever have to touch the Device button on the Harmony. If there are some actions that you do need to do regularly that do not appear on the Activity softkeys you can change the softkeys or add another page. nd don't forget how valuable the Help button on the 880 can be in getting things right if some device is not in the right mode.
Bernie
While I agree with most of that, I am having one problem that requires me to go to device mode. I have an activity that is to watch HD TV. This turns on the TV, sets it to a component input, then chooses my HD Tuner as the device for changing channels. The HD channels have a decimal point in them so for example CBS is channel 5 whereas CBS HD is channel 5.1. The HD Tuner has a . key but the Harmony doesn't. I have taught the Harmony the . key and it learns it fine. But I cannot map it to a key on the numeric keypad (Enter would be good) when the Harmony is in activity mode. To gain access to the say channel 5.1 I have to select the device HD Tuner, press 5.1 (the "dot" works fine mapped to the Enter key in device mode) and then press device again to get back to Activity mode
Larry
I The HD channels have a decimal point in them so for example CBS is channel 5 whereas CBS HD is channel 5.1. The HD Tuner has a . key but the Harmony doesn't. I have taught the Harmony the . key and it learns it fine. But I cannot map it to a key on the numeric keypad (Enter would be good) when the Harmony is in activity mode. To gain access to the say channel 5.1 I have to select the device HD Tuner, press 5.1 (the "dot" works fine mapped to the Enter key in device mode) and then press device again to get back to Activity mode
Larry
I do have . mapped to one of the LCD keys, but I almost never use it.
I just enter 5 to tune to the SD channel first and then Channel Up to tune to 5.1.
Hello,
My first post here. Im sure this has been asked, but couldnt really fint it amongst the 3000 harmony 880 posts.. :)
Can anyone direct me to a site that shows the differences between the harmony 880 advanced and the harmony 880 PRO?? Thank you.
Welcome. The Logitech website does this for you:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/&cl=us,en&page=&view=comparison&compProducts=374,372
The biggest difference is that the 890 submits it's signals via RF (Radio Frequency), you do not need to have line of sight to the equipment you control (AV equipment in cabinet, next room. etc). The 880 works like a regular remote, if the view is blocked (and you are not bouncing the signal of a wall) the equipment may not pick up the signal.
craig_wagner 12-29-07, 11:17 AM The Logitech website does this for you:
That link compares the 880 to the 890. He asked about the difference between the 880 Advanced and the 880 Pro (which isn't listed on the Logitech site).
I found the following mention on another forum:
"Harmony 880 Pro & 890 Pro: Available from custom installers. It only adds the Picture & Sound buttons. Some people say, so the custom installer can make a couple of extra bucks."
I do have . mapped to one of the LCD keys, but I almost never use it.
I just enter 5 to tune to the SD channel first and then Channel Up to tune to 5.1.
I have . mapped to a key also (Enter) but it doesn't work when the harmony is in activity mode. It only works when the device HD Tuner is selected. I also have been pressing 5 and then channel up. But I discovered the dot is active when I use Media. So I have programmed in all the HD (FTA for me) channels into media, complete with channel icons so when I press the icon for CBS say, the Harmony sends 5.1.
I am continually and pleasantly surprised by how powerful this unit is.
Hi, new here and wondering about this remote, having seen good reviews everywhere. In my "sports room/HT I use 5 TVs and 5 DVRs all are able to work together in almost any combination. Can this remote just control all of the devices individually or are one of the older Harmony remotes a better bet. If I just selected watch TV it wouldn't know which devices I wanted to use?
Just seup five "watch tv activities"- one for eack tv and dvr. "watch tv1" etc. To change vol or a channel, while on "watch tv2", say on tv3, just switch to that activity(watch tv3").
ArmyMedicGuy 12-29-07, 02:47 PM Thanks for the info guys....but sites like amazon carry both the 880 advanced and the 880 PRO. If you look close there are different buttons, but since i dont have one yet, not sure the benfits. Does anyone out there know??? Thanks again.
I have . mapped to a key also (Enter) but it doesn't work when the harmony is in activity mode. It only works when the device HD Tuner is selected. I also have been pressing 5 and then channel up. But I discovered the dot is active when I use Media. So I have programmed in all the HD (FTA for me) channels into media, complete with channel icons so when I press the icon for CBS say, the Harmony sends 5.1.
I am continually and pleasantly surprised by how powerful this unit is.
Have you assigned the command for the Activity, or just the Device? Remember that Activities and Devices have their buttons customized independently of one another.
For the activity, select "More options" then "Change behaviour of buttons".
I got the XBOX 360 Universal Media Remote which I think is different from the Media Center remote. Does the 880 have that device?
ArmyMedicGuy 12-29-07, 04:26 PM well I went ahead and called the Logitech support team number and got the low down on the differences with the 880 and the 880 PRO. There was an entry ealier stating the 880 pro was used for installers which is correct according to the rep. So the bottom line is if you are just a basic user with a normal home theater system, then the 880 advanced is good for you!!!
HiHoStevo 12-29-07, 07:27 PM well I went ahead and called the Logitech support team number and got the low down on the differences with the 880 and the 880 PRO. There was an entry ealier stating the 880 pro was used for installers which is correct according to the rep. So the bottom line is if you are just a basic user with a normal home theater system, then the 880 advanced is good for you!!!
Okay.... you got the lowdown....
Now how about sharing the differences with the rest of us "unwashed" masses........ :D
Thank you very much citico! Sounds like great solution to cut cut my remotes way down.
I got the XBOX 360 Universal Media Remote which I think is different from the Media Center remote. Does the 880 have that device?
The 880 covers all the 360 buttons as well as the media center buttons. I use it as such. Just add the 360 and it puts them all in or are listed in the device for you to place.
Thanks for the info guys....but sites like amazon carry both the 880 advanced and the 880 PRO. If you look close there are different buttons, but since i dont have one yet, not sure the benfits. Does anyone out there know??? Thanks again.
Technically Amazon isn't selling them a vendor on their site is. They are normally for pro installers and have the two extra keys as mentioned above. Those keys were on earlier Harmonys and were probably placed on these to facilitate custom programmers. Save your money get a normal model.
electrik 12-30-07, 12:51 PM Is there a logical way to adjust the volume of the receiver automatically when I do something like 'Watch TV'. For example, when I watch tv, the volume on my HK AVR247 needs to be at about -26.0. But when I play a game on my xbox, the volume needs to be about -45.0? (basically the xbox is much louder than my cable box)
I just purchased the remote, so forgive me if I'm missing something, but the only way I could see this being possible was if I added ~100 volume down commands on the receiver so it went "muted", and then added volume up commands to the proper level. That sounds real tedious.
Don't know about having the Harmony do that, but many mid-level and up AVRs have an adjustment to bring all the source gain levels to be the same when switching between them.
Is there a logical wat to adjust the volume of the receiver automatically when I do something like 'Watch TV'. For example, when I watch tv, the volume on my HK AVR247 needs to be at about -26.0. But when I play a game on my xbox, the volume needs to be about -45.0? (basically the xbox is much louder than my cable box)
I just purchased the remote, so forgive me if I'm missing something, but the only way I could see this being possible was if I added ~100 volume down commands on the receiver so it went "muted", and then added volume up commands to the proper level. That sounds real tedious.
That would be a function of the receiver, not the remote. Basically, the remote can only send commands that are recognized by your devices...it can't make up its own. If your receiver has commands to set it to a certain volume level, then the remote can issue those.
electrik 12-30-07, 03:17 PM Thanks, I'll ask over in the AVR 247 (http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=868358&page=56) thread for any ideas.
todd03blown 12-30-07, 10:49 PM I just bought one of these online from BestBuy for $149 and will pick it up tomorrow. I am excited to use this to control the following:
Mitsubishi 57" DLP (WD-Y57)
Sony STR-DG810
Xbox 360
DirectTV - H21-200
mx6bfast 12-30-07, 11:00 PM Finally got my replacement today, 13 days after it was sent (that's why DHL sucks) and to my surprise I was sent a brand new unit, not a refurb. I told my wife it was just like Christmas all over again. I got my other for Christmas last year. But this year I had it setup and ready to go in less than 5 minutes, not 5 hours.
Finally got my replacement today, 13 days after it was sent (that's why DHL sucks) and to my surprise I was sent a brand new unit, not a refurb. I told my wife it was just like Christmas all over again. I got my other for Christmas last year. But this year I had it setup and ready to go in less than 5 minutes, not 5 hours.
Merry Christmas, enjoy!
tlbauerle 12-31-07, 06:23 PM I finally have my 880 set up all the way! I got mine at Christmas and it is the coolest freakin' think out there. I never was able to have my wife convinced enought to let me spend all that $$$ on a remote. I think now she gets it.
I love the features and customizability of this remote. It really is ingenius. No problems or complaints, really. Some of it just takes a bit of getting used to. Good bye, my other six remote controls!!!
Charles R 12-31-07, 08:49 PM I gave the 880 a good look at Best Buy the other day and after looking over the button placement (along with its feel) I'm wondering how any one really enjoys using theirs.
I understand you can do macros (I have with a Pronto and Compaq PDA), map buttons and whatnot but I would think its advantage would be its hard buttons. Although I found them rather clumsy at best. As an example the volume up and down buttons appear so small and integrated into the remote that they would be hard to find and use (compared to TiVo's remote).
I also looked over the 550 and found it had the same number of buttons and they were much easier to access and use.
I don't need to control very many devices but on the surface there appears to be a serious lack of defined buttons for my AV receiver and projector not to mention the much more common TiVo. I'm presuming these buttons get mapped to the undefined buttons at the top. However I would spending more time than I gained by trying to figure out what button did what.
I almost bought one to give it a try but frankly seeing the button layout and the number of buttons that wouldn't natively be available I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I know these are popular and I must be missing something... what is it?
If I want to hunt for buttons (defined ones) I have the PDA that I can program in any way I desire and if I want hard buttons I have the actual remotes? What do I gain by using the 880? Is everyone in love with the macros... if so I can understand it but I never used them with my Pronto or my current PDA.
I gave the 880 a good look at Best Buy the other day and after looking over the button placement (along with its feel) I'm wondering how any one really enjoys using theirs.
You are in the vast minority.
I know these are popular and I must be missing something... what is it?
The one hand operation.
Is everyone in love with the macros... if so I can understand it but I never used them with my Pronto or my current PDA.
You press a lot of buttons instead.
balpers 01-01-08, 12:58 AM Does anyone know if it is possible to place the "Enter" key at the end of a media sequence. For example, if CNN is a favorite, the sequence would be 2-0-2-Enter, rather than 2-0-2.
It would speed things up considerably for favorite channel selection.
Burt
Does anyone know if it is possible to place the "Enter" key at the end of a media sequence. For example, if CNN is a favorite, the sequence would be 2-0-2-Enter, rather than 2-0-2.
It would speed things up considerably for favorite channel selection.
Burt
Yes. It's one of the options in the device setup.
Select "Redo initial setup" for the TV device (or whatever device you are using to select channels). If will irst go through the Power and Input options, and after that will ask something like "How do you select channels with your original remote?". One of the options is "Number then Enter".
beekeeper 01-01-08, 07:32 AM I gave the 880 a good look at Best Buy the other day and after looking over the button placement (along with its feel) I'm wondering how any one really enjoys using theirs.
I understand you can do macros (I have with a Pronto and Compaq PDA), map buttons and whatnot but I would think its advantage would be its hard buttons. Although I found them rather clumsy at best. As an example the volume up and down buttons appear so small and integrated into the remote that they would be hard to find and use (compared to TiVo's remote).
I also looked over the 550 and found it had the same number of buttons and they were much easier to access and use.
I don't need to control very many devices but on the surface there appears to be a serious lack of defined buttons for my AV receiver and projector not to mention the much more common TiVo. I'm presuming these buttons get mapped to the undefined buttons at the top. However I would spending more time than I gained by trying to figure out what button did what.
I almost bought one to give it a try but frankly seeing the button layout and the number of buttons that wouldn't natively be available I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I know these are popular and I must be missing something... what is it?
If I want to hunt for buttons (defined ones) I have the PDA that I can program in any way I desire and if I want hard buttons I have the actual remotes? What do I gain by using the 880? Is everyone in love with the macros... if so I can understand it but I never used them with my Pronto or my current PDA.
The differences between the 550 and 880 are a matter of preference, so you might like one over the other because of look and buttons. From there on you are in activities and devices and what those functions do, and they are the same.
I had several remotes (all-in-one and others) that you could map buttons and add macros, but they pale to the Harmony. As you use the Harmony you get to understand just all the additional things they are capable of and program them so they do those things.
I have an LCD TV, two DVRs, a home theater with 5 disk DVD/CD player, and a projector all controlled by the Harmony 880. At one time I also had a VHS recorder in the line. You set up the Harmony to start any activity with any mix and one button does it. You can shift activities at any time with one button. So I got rid of six remotes.
I did not like the placement of FF/rewind and the chapter buttons so swapped them for all activities. I standardized the menu/etc buttons so they did the same thing for the DVRs (like schedule and time shift) that I use most and left them as is for other units. I set up the LCD window buttons to have the DVR on the first window, the LCD TV on the rest. (You will learn that the Harmony sets up the window devices by first in, so if you add devices, do it as you will want them to show up in the extra button windows.
Not trying to sell you on the unit, but it was the best buy I made for controlling my mix of devices and to do it exceptionally well.
I'm having a problem with my 880 and Samsung 4663 after an update to the remote. Previously, if I was playing my 360 and finished, I would hit the activities button and then, "Watch TV" and it would switch it to S-Video1 and everything would be fine. Now when I do the same thing, the remote goes to the Watch TV activity but the input never changes to S-Video1. I've tried everything and can't seem to get it to work.
balpers 01-01-08, 12:39 PM Yes. It's one of the options in the device setup.
Select "Redo initial setup" for the TV device (or whatever device you are using to select channels). If will irst go through the Power and Input options, and after that will ask something like "How do you select channels with your original remote?". One of the options is "Number then Enter".
Worked like a charm. Thank you!
Burt
nolefan9399 01-01-08, 02:37 PM in my living room i will have the samsung 5884 hooked to a DTV HD DVR and next to that a samsung LCD hooked to another DTV DVR. will i be able to program the 880 to operate both DVRs and both TVs?
I had a problem over the weekend.
When I tried to adjust the settings on my 890, the web site said that there was a newer device profile for my A/V receiver and if I chose to update it would create a new device and replace the original with the new one in all activities.
I made the mistake of telling it to install the new device and had problems. I finally found out this morning that even though the device had been replaced in all activities, it did not copy over the input information for the receiver.
After going into each of my activities and selecting the correct input on the receiver, everything started working correctly again.
Be careful anytime setup suggests replacing the device for your A/V receiver.
bernie33 01-01-08, 02:40 PM I gave the 880 a good look at Best Buy the other day and after looking over the button placement (along with its feel) I'm wondering how any one really enjoys using theirs.
I understand you can do macros (I have with a Pronto and Compaq PDA), map buttons and whatnot but I would think its advantage would be its hard buttons. Although I found them rather clumsy at best. As an example the volume up and down buttons appear so small and integrated into the remote that they would be hard to find and use (compared to TiVo's remote).
I also looked over the 550 and found it had the same number of buttons and they were much easier to access and use.
I don't need to control very many devices but on the surface there appears to be a serious lack of defined buttons for my AV receiver and projector not to mention the much more common TiVo. I'm presuming these buttons get mapped to the undefined buttons at the top. However I would spending more time than I gained by trying to figure out what button did what.
I almost bought one to give it a try but frankly seeing the button layout and the number of buttons that wouldn't natively be available I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I know these are popular and I must be missing something... what is it?
If I want to hunt for buttons (defined ones) I have the PDA that I can program in any way I desire and if I want hard buttons I have the actual remotes? What do I gain by using the 880? Is everyone in love with the macros... if so I can understand it but I never used them with my Pronto or my current PDA.
You were wise to ask here. Beekeeper gave you a very good answer. I'd like to add to it. If you view the Harmony as just another multi-device remote that lets you control all of your equipment from one device you are missing the advantages of the Harmony and the reason so many families find it so valuable. The Harmony actually integrates all of your devices so that they act as if they were aware of each other and were all designed to work together. That is the value of the Harmony.
In your note you talk about macros and buttons to control all of your devices. With the Harmony you, and perhaps more importantly, your family and guests, can forget about all of that. With the Harmony, if you want to watch a DVD, just pick up the Harmony and push "DVD" or whatever you choose to call that activity. Your projector will be turned on and set to the correct input, your sound system will be turned on and set to the correct input, your DVD player will be turned on, and the Harmony screen will be changed to show those controls that you are most likely to need while watching a DVD. The Volume controls will know that they should control your AV system. The fast forward and reverse buttons, and the forward and reverse skip buttons, will know that they should control your DVD player. The Eject/Open button on the Harmony screen will open the DVD player. I have a Next Disc button there too. I don't recall if Logitech put it there because of the model of my DVD player or if I tailored it t put it there.
Same if I want to watch our VCR. Or our DVR. Or use our Wii. Or watch via a cablecard. The Harmony turns off any devices that aren't needed, leaves on any devices that are needed, changes all of the inputs and outputs to that everything works as a system, rather than a set of independent devices. And if anything has somehow got out of sync the Help button on the Harmony takes you or your wife or kids or guests through a series of yes/no questions that gets things working in sync again. That is why so many people like it so much.
The 880 also has a small button labeled media, and the Logitech website refers to it as Favorites (a holdover from earlier models). It lets you set the softkeys to any channels you like, and you can setup icons/logos for each of those channels. You can display eight channels on the screen and you can have two pages of them, allowing you to have 16 channels stored in your 880. I have no idea what the channel numbers are for the channels that my wife or I watch. We just push the Media button and then click on the logo for the channel we want. You can set them up differently for the DVR/Tivo and for the TV tuner but I've made them the same for both.
I have a Tivo and also a Motorola DVR from the cable company. They're on different TV's and we had the Tivo first. This isn't the place to talk about the differences in those units, except for the remotes. The Tivo remote may be balanced a little better to my tastes, and the volume and channel buttons are bigger. But those buttons are in almost the same place on the two remotes and the other buttons seem equally convenient on both remotes. And, of course, the 880 lights up which is a useful advantage.
Hope that helps in answering your questions about why people like them and what you may be overlooking.
Bernie
AFMan916 01-01-08, 03:12 PM Hi all!
Longtime lurker, new poster. I've been posting over in the Onkyo 705 forums a bit to try and get some things ironed out with my receiver, but I also need to get a few things worked out with my new remote.
My main problem is, when I hit "Watch TV", everything runs correctly, except I would like for the remote to be on the Cable device instead of the TV device when all is said and done. What I mean by this is, after I press Watch TV, everything is fine, but the remote itself is set to the TV device and displays the controls for the TV. How can I get it to set itself to the Cable device after I hit Watch TV (lazy yes, but this way I won't have to hit Device and switch over to the controls for the cable box)?
Second question is, when I am watching TV and the remote is set to the Cable device, the Volume controls on the remote change the volume for the cable box itself, not the receiver. Under the set-up I have it so I use my Onkyo for the volume, but still when I am on the Cable device the volume buttons control the box, not the receiver. Every other component controls the receiver volume, and I cant get this final problem figured out.
Thanks so much in advance guys!!
Tim
wdkerbow 01-01-08, 03:57 PM My main problem is, when I hit "Watch TV", everything runs correctly, except I would like for the remote to be on the Cable device instead of the TV device when all is said and done. What I mean by this is, after I press Watch TV, everything is fine, but the remote itself is set to the TV device and displays the controls for the TV. How can I get it to set itself to the Cable device after I hit Watch TV (lazy yes, but this way I won't have to hit Device and switch over to the controls for the cable box)?
Second question is, when I am watching TV and the remote is set to the Cable device, the Volume controls on the remote change the volume for the cable box itself, not the receiver. Under the set-up I have it so I use my Onkyo for the volume, but still when I am on the Cable device the volume buttons control the box, not the receiver. Every other component controls the receiver volume, and I cant get this final problem figured out.
Thanks so much in advance guys!!
Tim
The remote is not in device mode once it enters and activity. It only goes to device mode when you press the "device" button. You should program the "soft Keys" to your most used buttons from all of your remotes, and do that for each activity.
To answer your second question... don't leave your remote in device mode.
AFMan916 01-01-08, 04:08 PM I'd love to not have to go to device mode. But thats my problem, instead of switching to control the cable box after I hit Watch TV, the controls for the TV are brought up, FORCING me to go into device mode and select the cable box. But still, how does that answer my second question, because even if the remote is on the cable box, it wont control the receiver volume. Basically, after I hit watch TV I want the cable controls to be on the remote and when I press volume up or down I want to control the receiver, not the cable box.
nolefan9399 01-01-08, 04:12 PM in my living room i will have the samsung 5884 hooked to a DTV HD DVR and next to that a samsung LCD hooked to another DTV DVR. will i be able to program the 880 to operate both DVRs and both TVs?
any help here
wprager 01-01-08, 04:33 PM Can someone explain how the repeated codes work and why we need them? I have a couple of problems when using my DVD player (LG's LDA-531), and I suspect it may be related to this setting.
Before I got my 880 a few days ago, I used a 520. One of the things it could never do very well was skip back to a previous chapter. It seems that clicking the PreviousChapter (|<< ) button would simply get it back to the start of the current chapter. Sometimes I would accomplish what I wanted by repeatedly hitting the button. Most of the time it would not go back at all, sometimes it would go back one chapter, sometimes it would go back 2 or more. Very inconsistent.
Now that I have the 880, it seems to be a little more consistent in that if I hit it twice, quickly, it goes back to the previous chapter (it goes to the beginning of the current one first, then quickly to the start of the previous one).
However the 880 does not seem able to control the Play function. If I pause a movie, then I cannot restart it without going to the player or picking up the older remote. Weird -- I kept my old account set up for the 520, and verified that I am using the same player model number. I also verified that the two setups are using a different number of repeats. The 880 has repeats set at 3, while the 520 has it set to 4.
I could see how this difference could account for "Play" not working if, for example, the LG player needed 4 repeats for some reason. However the inconsistency with the Previous Chapter function seems to be the other way around. As I said, most of the time when I hit Previous multiple times with the 520, it just goes to the start of the current chapter. With the 880 I can consistently get it to go back by hitting it exactly twice.
I'll try setting the repeats to 4 for my 880, and if that doesn't work give support a call tomorrow. But if anyone has any experience and can offer advice/suggestions, that would be equally helpful.
Thanks in advance.
craig_wagner 01-01-08, 04:39 PM I'd love to not have to go to device mode. But thats my problem, instead of switching to control the cable box after I hit Watch TV, the controls for the TV are brought up, FORCING me to go into device mode and select the cable box. But still, how does that answer my second question, because even if the remote is on the cable box, it wont control the receiver volume. Basically, after I hit watch TV I want the cable controls to be on the remote and when I press volume up or down I want to control the receiver, not the cable box.
On the first pass through the setup wizard the Logitech software will pick some menu items that it thinks are useful for the activity and put them on the LCD screen. If you don't think they are useful for the activity, change them. You are never "forced" to do anything, you can customize the remote so that it shows the items you find useful when in a given activity. When I set my 880 up it was similar to yours, lots of menu items having to do with TV control on the LCD panel. I went into Customize Buttons and changed them to control my DVR.
The Harmony can only make an educated guess, if it doesn't match your system, change it.
craig_wagner 01-01-08, 04:41 PM in my living room i will have the samsung 5884 hooked to a DTV HD DVR and next to that a samsung LCD hooked to another DTV DVR. will i be able to program the 880 to operate both DVRs and both TVs?
Yes. You'll end up with two Watch TV activities, one for each television.
wprager 01-01-08, 06:03 PM One more quick question. When I was first started setting up my 880 I believe there were different options as to which icons to use for devices and activities. Now I can't find them anywhere. Was I just dreaming?
wdkerbow 01-01-08, 06:06 PM Was I just dreaming?
Yes. :)
Charles R 01-01-08, 06:20 PM If you view the Harmony as just another multi-device remote that lets you control all of your equipment from one device you are missing the advantages of the Harmony and the reason so many families find it so valuable. The Harmony actually integrates all of your devices so that they act as if they were aware of each other and were all designed to work together. That is the value of the Harmony.I think you are right. Having used macros with an old Pronto I found I never used them. They also have no value for guests or even my wife, as they certainly aren't allowed to mess with the equipment.
I would like one remote that I could universally use but I feel there are simply too many missing buttons to make it worthwhile. Rather I would be hunting to find this or that button.
I guess my usage and needs are just too simple to benefit from what it offers.
I'd love to not have to go to device mode. But thats my problem, instead of switching to control the cable box after I hit Watch TV, the controls for the TV are brought up, FORCING me to go into device mode and select the cable box. But still, how does that answer my second question, because even if the remote is on the cable box, it wont control the receiver volume. Basically, after I hit watch TV I want the cable controls to be on the remote and when I press volume up or down I want to control the receiver, not the cable box.
You (like many others) have misunderstood how the Harmony works. When you hit "Watch TV", you are NOT left with the TV device, you are left with the Watch TV ACTIVITY. An Activity is a collection of devices, so in an Activity the remote is not set to control one single device (as it would be if you are in Device mode).
The set up makes a "best guess" as to what commands are assigned to each button when it sets up the Activity in the wizard, but you can (and should) customize this to suit how you want it.
Select "Customize" for the "Watch TV"activity, then "Change behaviour of buttons". You will get a screen where you can assign any command to any button you want. Assign the cable box commands as you want them. The LCD buttons are under "Additional commands".
Do this correctly and you should almost never need to select Device mode.
bernie33 01-01-08, 06:49 PM I think you are right. Having used macros with an old Pronto I found I never used them. They also have no value for guests or even my wife, as they certainly aren't allowed to mess with the equipment.
I would like one remote that I could universally use but I feel there are simply too many missing buttons to make it worthwhile. Rather I would be hunting to find this or that button.
I guess my usage and needs are just too simple to benefit from what it offers.
I'm not trying to sell you on the 880, as obviously it makes no difference to me. But perhaps if you gave some examples of buttons that you think are missing from the 880 we could better understand your concerns and at least tell you how other people deal with the circumstances.
Bernie
bernie33 01-01-08, 06:59 PM Hi all!
Longtime lurker, new poster. I've been posting over in the Onkyo 705 forums a bit to try and get some things ironed out with my receiver, but I also need to get a few things worked out with my new remote.
My main problem is, when I hit "Watch TV", everything runs correctly, except I would like for the remote to be on the Cable device instead of the TV device when all is said and done. What I mean by this is, after I press Watch TV, everything is fine, but the remote itself is set to the TV device and displays the controls for the TV. How can I get it to set itself to the Cable device after I hit Watch TV (lazy yes, but this way I won't have to hit Device and switch over to the controls for the cable box)?
Second question is, when I am watching TV and the remote is set to the Cable device, the Volume controls on the remote change the volume for the cable box itself, not the receiver. Under the set-up I have it so I use my Onkyo for the volume, but still when I am on the Cable device the volume buttons control the box, not the receiver. Every other component controls the receiver volume, and I cant get this final problem figured out.
Thanks so much in advance guys!!
Tim
You seem to be having two problems. The first is that it sounds like you're still thinking in terms of devices instead of Activities; and the second is that you haven't setup your Watch TV activity correctly.
You should rarely, if ever, need to press the Device button when you are in any Activity. When you press the Watch TV activity the Harmony should turn on your cable box (unless it is on all the time), turn on your TV, and turn on your receiver. The channel buttons should control your cable box. The volume controls should control your receiver. The Media button should pick channels on your cable box. The Pause button and fast forward/reverse buttons should control your cable box. And all of that automatically as a result of a correct setup and all without ever hitting the Device button on your Harmony.
With that in mind, and thinking in terms of Activities, I'd suggest you go through the setup again. Your Watch TV activity should specify that the devices to use are the cable box, TV and receiver. It should specify that the volume is controlled by the receiver. The tuner should be set to your cable box. And that should give you the behavior, and buttons, that you and your family desire.
Bernie
Anyone with some advice on the problem from my last post? I've been doing everything to get this to work over the last 3 hours and I've gotten nowhere.
Charles R 01-01-08, 07:43 PM But perhaps if you gave some examples of buttons that you think are missing from the 880 we could better understand your concerns and at least tell you how other people deal with the circumstances.Well most of the time I use four remotes. I didn't find any easy (natural way) to use the following buttons...
TiVo
TiVo
Live TV
Thumbs (both but I don't use them often).
Instant rewind
Jump forward
Blu-ray
System menu (not disc menu)
Open/close
Dimmer
Display
Video format
Audio
Bookmark buttons (4)
Pop-up menu
Top menu
Pretty much repeat Blu-ray for HD DVD.
AV Receiver
Input buttons (9)
Dimmer
Top menu
Setup
Return (back)
Display
Listening mode buttons (8)
I have a few other remotes but they basically repeat the same layouts. These are the buttons I use most of the time. With the 880 I saw three issues.
1. The buttons that are native to my remotes (such as volume) appear to be harder to use than the actual remote's buttons. Such as TiVo's volume.
2. I presume most of the buttons I listed above will end up being device labeled at the top. Certainly not easy to use.
3. Finally with the need to label so many buttons (there are many more than I listed per remote) finding the ones I often or seldom use will take some hunting.
Usability of the buttons I could probably live with the 550. But that still leaves the other two items. Certainly I could flip through various screens trying to find what I want to do (no I couldn't use macros to define my typical usage) but right now I think I'd be better off using the actual remote.
wprager 01-01-08, 07:51 PM Anyone with some advice on the problem from my last post? I've been doing everything to get this to work over the last 3 hours and I've gotten nowhere.
In your previous post you said you'd tried "everything". I'm sure you didn't, so can you be more specific? Off the top of my head I'd say you need to adjust some delays. Maybe the order of turning off the 360 and switching the TV input was switched? In that case perhaps increasing the inter-device delay would do the trick. Or perhaps the method of delay changes is different. When I first set up my 520 I don't remember seeing the 4 different options. When I first set up my 880 it used option 4 by default; I switched that to 2 (since I have discrete input codes) and it works much smoother/faster now. With option 2 I don't have to worry as much about delays.
I'm thinking about just entering in all my remotes back into it. I didn't change anything but remove my HD-DVD addon from my device list since I don't use it much.
22benjamin22 01-01-08, 09:15 PM Charles R: Without going into exactly how I have mine setup, I had similar concerns.
I let the software do it's thing all the way through, programmed the remote and tested. I made notes of what I liked, didn't like and never thought I'd use. Then I went in and customized what many buttons do (every button is a soft button).
I tweaked a few things due to a feature dropped from a previous software version that has now been added back:
The ability to train the remote for a single button press to equal a triple fast forward (by hitting it 3 times quickly in training mode)... that is an awesome feature I am thankful every time I use my TiVo upstairs and use the peanut and have to hit it 3 times.
I no longer use the "TiVo" button press as I found 99% of the time I wanted to go to "Now Playing" (TiVo twice), so I just set the upper display button to "Now Playing" If I need to go to the TiVo menu, I just hit the left button after and it takes me there.
I rarely use the second screen, but it has that ability if needed (mostly TV settings for adjusting backlight and aspect ratio for daytime and 4:3 viewing).
AFMan916
I NEVER use the Device button. When I found my need to do that, I just went in and played with the software to get it to do whatever I felt that activity should do. I had to start thinking not only in activity oriented ways, but also that device based remotes are "wrong" for ease of use. I had to get creative at times, but anytime a guest comes over and is able to do everything without my assistance, I just smile.
Is the remote perfect? Nope, but I don't think there is such a thing that would work for everyone. This is the best remote with options I've found and I've been able to live with any concessions I've had to make
AFMan916 01-01-08, 09:38 PM Problem fixed. Many thanks to all who contributed, and apologies on my behalf for understanding the remote only 90% of the way. Reorganized everything, mapped out my buttons, and voila, everything is hunky-dory. Once again, THANKS!!! :)
Well I took all my devices off the remote and started over. Getting the same exact problem.
Right now I have only 2 devices plugged into my TV.
TV (coaxial input) - Even though there is nothing plugged in here, it acts as if there is. (Getting a Blue Screen)
S-Video 1 - DirecTivo
HDMI - 360/DVD/HD-DVD/HD Tuner
Before I removed the HD-DVD addon Device, I would switch from say 360/DVD to S-Video to go back to my game or movie. Now it will not go to S-Video 1 input. It stops on TV every single time. I've tried low and high delay times but nothing is working. I don't understand why the Activity would change by removing HD-DVD addon from the Device list. It wasn't even part of the Activity.
If it isn't possible to fix this, can I go into my Samsung's menu and tell it to turn off the TV (Coaxial) input?
narrowgate 01-01-08, 10:03 PM I am looking for a universal remote and am closely looking at the 880. I have a concern similar to Charles R. I have a new Panasonic DMP BD-30 Blu-Ray player that has a "non-standard" button - Pop-Up Menu. It is a different function than Menu or Top Menu. I also have a Panasonic DVR with a button called Direct Navigator that I use a lot. How does the 880 handle unique buttons like these?
Or maybe a better question - Is there a way to tell if the
DMP BD-30 is already in the Harmony database?
Thanks.
raghu1111 01-01-08, 10:33 PM I gave the 880 a good look at Best Buy the other day and after looking over the button placement (along with its feel) I'm wondering how any one really enjoys using theirs.
The feel of the silver buttons is the biggest complaint I have. They pinch the fingers. Only the directional buttons among the silver ones are ok. Also the number buttons are placed too low on the remote.
raghu1111 01-01-08, 10:38 PM I am looking for a universal remote and am closely looking at the 880. I have a concern similar to Charles R. I have a new Panasonic DMP BD-30 Blu-Ray player that has a "non-standard" button - Pop-Up Menu. It is a different function than Menu or Top Menu. I also have a Panasonic DVR with a button called Direct Navigator that I use a lot. How does the 880 handle unique buttons like these?
Or maybe a better question - Is there a way to tell if the
DMP BD-30 is already in the Harmony database?
It should be in the database. I think Harmony pretty up to date. You can assign any button on original remote to any button on 880 (also there multiple "pages" of buttons at the top that you can use). I usually use "Record" button for something I uses a lot, even with Tivo, because you don't press actual record all that much.
bernie33 01-02-08, 12:44 AM Well most of the time I use four remotes. I didn't find any easy (natural way) to use the following buttons...
In addition to what 22benjamin22 said, here is how I handle many of things that you mention. I use my 880 with a Motorola DVR so some of the buttons that you mention aren't applicable although most are. Even for those that aren't applicable, I'll try to mention how I would handle Tivo buttons if I ever choose to use my 880 with my Tivo.
TiVo
TiVo
That is the same as the Menu button on the 880. I think the Harmony also sets up a button called "My list" or something like that. I renamed it "My Recordings", or maybe that is what Logitech did name it.
Live TV
To start in Live TV mode I simply pick up the Harmony and press the correct Activity button. It we were watching something that is already recorded and want to switch to live TV I just press the Live TV button that is on the display screen on the 880.
Thumbs (both but I don't use them often).
Those are the buttons that aren't applicable to my DVR, but if I needed them I would map them to two buttons on the display screen of the 880. I'd map them to two adjacent buttons and give them any labels I wanted to.
Instant rewind
Jump forward
The 880 has buttons, slightly below the display, for those functions
Blu-ray
System menu (not disc menu)
I almost never need that, and the family never ever needs that, so I'm fine with pressing the Device button to get the multiple pages of detailed but rarely used buttons for this device. And if there happen to be some functions that aren't already mapped they're easy to add. If I don't like the default sequence that Logitech setup for the detailed device functions I can rearrange them and in one case I've done that.
Open/close
Of course the Harmony knows that that is a needed function for the DVD activity and it is there. I may have moved the location and I know I changed the label from Eject to Open.
Dimmer
Display
Video format
Audio
Bookmark buttons (4)
Pop-up menu
Top menu
The only ones of those buttons that are meaningful to me are the Video format which I think may be the same as Aspect ratio which I have as a button on the screen, and the Menu button which is a button on the Harmony. The others could be mapped to the screen or left under Device. I know my family would never use those buttons so they'd stay under Device.
Pretty much repeat Blu-ray for HD DVD.
AV Receiver
Input buttons (9)
Input buttons aren't needed because each Activity selects that automatically.
Dimmer
Top menu
I don't know what a dimmer button does on your receiver. Not sure about the Top Menu button either.
Setup
Return (back)
Display
I'd leave all of those under Device since I would almost never need them and my family wouldn't want to be able to touch them.
Listening mode buttons (8)
If I really used those I'd map them to softkeys on the 880. More likely I'd only map the one or two that I actually use - if I ever use them at all. Otherwise they'd stay under Device.
I have a few other remotes but they basically repeat the same layouts. These are the buttons I use most of the time. With the 880 I saw three issues.
1. The buttons that are native to my remotes (such as volume) appear to be harder to use than the actual remote's buttons. Such as TiVo's volume.
I have both an 880 and a Tivo System 2, as well as remotes on three other TV's and an additional audio system with multiple input devices. The Tivo has among the biggest volume and channel buttons, but we don't have any problem with the 880 equivalents. The convenience of having a single integrated system far outweighs any preference for the larger buttons on the Tivo remote for us.
2. I presume most of the buttons I listed above will end up being device labeled at the top. Certainly not easy to use.
I don't think that I understand your comment. Indeed, the buttons that are rarely used will remain hidden until you press the Device button on the Harmony. Harmony users prefer that, and prefer not seeing all of those other buttons that are on the original remotes that get people in trouble and/or confused. If it is important for you and your family to always have every button for every device immediately at hand and visible then certainly the Harmony is not for you and you are far better off keeping all of the original remotes at hand. Or you might find that the family prefers the power and simplicity of the Harmony while you prefer the individual remotes. They are not mutually exclusive and the Help function on the Harmony will help the family recover from any changes that you've made through other remotes.
3. Finally with the need to label so many buttons (there are many more than I listed per remote) finding the ones I often or seldom use will take some hunting.
Yep. It is a trade-off. And you should always retain the original remotes. I have a friend who was ready to sell her Tivo because of the frustration of getting the TV, audio system, DVD player, and Tivo and satellite box all working for her. They got a Harmony and love it - and kept the Tivo.
Usability of the buttons I could probably live with the 550. But that still leaves the other two items. Certainly I could flip through various screens trying to find what I want to do (no I couldn't use macros to define my typical usage) but right now I think I'd be better off using the actual remote.
Yep. To benefit from the Harmony you have to accept the idea of Activities and that once your system is setup you primarily want to just watch it or listen to it. But for people that want to frequently tune or adjust their system they will not see any advantage to the Harmony (although their family and guests would).
Bernie
blynott 01-02-08, 08:37 AM Yep. To benefit from the Harmony you have to accept the idea of Activities and that once your system is setup you primarily want to just watch it or listen to it. But for people that want to frequently tune or adjust their system they will not see any advantage to the Harmony (although their family and guests would).
Bernie
It took me a couple of days to get this idea through my head and then about a week to fine tune my setup. Now it works beautifully. I just use the activities and the soft keys do the rest. I never touch the device keys anymore.
Bob
As far as I can tell, from Logitech's forums and other places, there is no way to currently change the Activities icons on a 890. However, a friend of mine has done it and can't recall where he got instructions to do it.
I've done hours of reading here and remotecentral.com and I simply can't find instructions. Can someone help? Apologies if it's buried in this thread somewhere...
fahertyps 01-02-08, 03:50 PM Still trying to dial in all the settings on my 880. Is there a way to change from activity to another (e.g., Watch TV to Watch DVD) without using the off button (shutting down all devices) and then selecting a new activity. I've been doing it with the device buttons, but that leaves me in the device's mode. thanks
Lighting Guy 01-02-08, 03:56 PM You can merely select another activity while one is running. Just press the activity button to get back to the main activity screen, and push the next activity you want. You should not have to power everything off or go into devices to switch an activity.
fahertyps 01-02-08, 04:03 PM You can merely select another activity while one is running. Just press the activity button to get back to the main activity screen, and push the next activity you want. You should not have to power everything off or go into devices to switch an activity.
I thought I had tried this and the 880 turned off the TV, receiver, etc when it left one activity for the next. I'll try again. Maybe it was me thinking and not it doing...
Lighting Guy 01-02-08, 04:08 PM I thought I had tried this and the 880 turned off the TV, receiver, etc when it left one activity for the next. I'll try again. Maybe it was me thinking and not it doing...
It can be done so if it is turning off devices that are used in that activity, it sounds like your activity is programmed wrong.
wprager 01-02-08, 04:19 PM Well, a couple of calls into support haven't cleared up my problem. To summarize, the play button in Watch Movie is not working on my 880 (but it was working in my 520). The first support person verified that the codes in both cases (I kept my old account for the 520 and started a new one) are the same. To test if it was a physical problem with the button he programmed the Record button with the Play code -- still nothing.
The 520 still works (but I don't dare update it now for fear of losing Play). So I tried "learning" the code from my 520. Even that didn't work.
Level-2 support was off today, so this will have to continue tomorrow. Weird.
blynott 01-02-08, 04:58 PM I had the same problem until I found the Activities button. (Top left, right next to the On-Off button) Admittedly this remote can do so much that it has a steep learning curve, but it's worth the trouble. I think I found a new button every day for the first week. The Media button is particularly well hidden, I kept hitting the Previous Channel button, not realizing that you needed to press inside, not the outside.
I had the same problem until I found the Activities button. (Top left, right next to the On-Off button) Admittedly this remote can do so much that it has a steep learning curve, but it's worth the trouble. I think I found a new button every day for the first week. The Media button is particularly well hidden, I kept hitting the Previous Channel button, not realizing that you needed to press inside, not the outside.
I bought the 880 for some friends last Xmas! I had an opportunity to visit them this Xmas and found the 880 was charged, programmed a bit but not used as much as it could be. My friends have a Panasonic RP LCD, a media player, DVD player, VCR and also connect up a PC to play games, Sound can be output either to the TV or via a 5.1 HT system. I added to their complexity by giving them a HD tuner for Xmas so they can view HD programming without having to purchase a cable box (albeit only the FTA channels but for them there are 8 FTA HD channels on their cable).
I spent a fair bit of time programming the remote for them. Got all the FTA HD channels onto the media buttons complete with channel logos, programmed in the new HD tuner and all the other devices. Biggest issue for them is their TV has 3 composite video inputs, 2 component, 2 RGB and HDMI but no direct input select. So I had to use the other method for selecting inputs which relies on the 880 knowing what the input is now and then cycling through the inputs to the correct one. (As an aside why do manufacturers make TV's that don't have direct input selection mode?).
Works pretty well the main problem that can occur being the inputs are out of step since they used the TV remote to change inputs or the 880 managed to skip an input because the IR beam got interrupted.
I think now they really appreciate how powerful the unit is. My friend is a computer expert but I don't think he ever invested the time required to understand and program the remote to its fullest extent.
Larry
fahertyps 01-02-08, 07:57 PM It can be done so if it is turning off devices that are used in that activity, it sounds like your activity is programmed wrong.
Works as designed. Thanks for the help.
I'm having a problem with my 880 and Samsung 4663 after an update to the remote. Previously, if I was playing my 360 and finished, I would hit the activities button and then, "Watch TV" and it would switch it to S-Video1 and everything would be fine. Now when I do the same thing, the remote goes to the Watch TV activity but the input never changes to S-Video1. I've tried everything and can't seem to get it to work.
In your "trying everything" did you hit the 'Help' button when you were on the wrong input and go through the questions it asks? One of them should ask if the input is set to S-Video, select 'no' and complete the sequence.
FerrisYJ 01-02-08, 10:18 PM Anyone else having trouble with the logitech software (which is basically a custom browser that points to myremotesetup.com) ? I keep getting tons of different errors, and I can't update my remote :(
Anyone else having trouble with the logitech software (which is basically a custom browser that points to myremotesetup.com) ? I keep getting tons of different errors, and I can't update my remote :(
That was the older software I think. The latest release (7.3.2?) is a PC application that is much more robust and functional than the first release
FerrisYJ 01-02-08, 10:25 PM That was the older software I think. The latest release (7.3.2?) is a PC application that is much more robust and functional than the first release
I'm on 7.3.2, when it times out on a webpage it says it can't connect to myremotesetup.com, you can hit 'next' and it goes to either the main page (listing your activities) or the login page after timing out.
Currently, I'm updating my remote, but it's stuck at 3%.... the details says the following:
Initializing services
Getting remote control information
Logitech Harmony Remote Software version: 7.3.2
Hardware version: Board 1.8.0 (0x01:0x49)
Firmware version: 4.0
Getting remote control information - Successful
Checking version information
Checking version information - Successful
Waking the remote control
Waking the remote control - Successful
Getting remote control states
Getting remote control states - Successful
Uploading remote control information to web
Initializing the remote control. Please wait...
Uploading remote control information to web - Successful
Finished
Communicating with your Harmony Remote.
bernie33 01-02-08, 10:41 PM I'm on 7.3.2, when it times out on a webpage it says it can't connect to myremotesetup.com, you can hit 'next' and it goes to either the main page (listing your activities) or the login page after timing out.
Currently, I'm updating my remote, but it's stuck at 3%.... the details says the following:
Initializing services
Getting remote control information
Logitech Harmony Remote Software version: 7.3.2
Hardware version: Board 1.8.0 (0x01:0x49)
Firmware version: 4.0
Getting remote control information - Successful
Checking version information
Checking version information - Successful
Waking the remote control
Waking the remote control - Successful
Getting remote control states
Getting remote control states - Successful
Uploading remote control information to web
Initializing the remote control. Please wait...
Uploading remote control information to web - Successful
Finished
Communicating with your Harmony Remote.
I hope it has completed by now and that your problem is resolved. If not, you didn't indicate whether you are connected via a broadband internet connection or a dial-up connection and that owuld obviously affect the time involved. It may also be possible that their site is just very busy because of all the people that have new units. Or your Firewall may be preventing things from downloading to your remote. If the problem persists you should call Logitech. Their Help desk is very good.
bernie33 01-02-08, 10:43 PM I bought the 880 for some friends last Xmas! I had an opportunity to visit them this Xmas and found the 880 was charged, programmed a bit but not used as much as it could be. My friends have a Panasonic RP LCD, a media player, DVD player, VCR and also connect up a PC to play games, Sound can be output either to the TV or via a 5.1 HT system. I added to their complexity by giving them a HD tuner for Xmas so they can view HD programming without having to purchase a cable box (albeit only the FTA channels but for them there are 8 FTA HD channels on their cable).
I spent a fair bit of time programming the remote for them. Got all the FTA HD channels onto the media buttons complete with channel logos, programmed in the new HD tuner and all the other devices. Biggest issue for them is their TV has 3 composite video inputs, 2 component, 2 RGB and HDMI but no direct input select. So I had to use the other method for selecting inputs which relies on the 880 knowing what the input is now and then cycling through the inputs to the correct one. (As an aside why do manufacturers make TV's that don't have direct input selection mode?).
Works pretty well the main problem that can occur being the inputs are out of step since they used the TV remote to change inputs or the 880 managed to skip an input because the IR beam got interrupted.
I think now they really appreciate how powerful the unit is. My friend is a computer expert but I don't think he ever invested the time required to understand and program the remote to its fullest extent.
Larry
If you haven't already done it you should be sure to make sure they are aware of the Help button on the Harmony. Especially because their system has to cycle through the inputs things may get out of sync and the Help button will be the best way for anyone in the family to get things working again.
Bernie
In your "trying everything" did you hit the 'Help' button when you were on the wrong input and go through the questions it asks? One of them should ask if the input is set to S-Video, select 'no' and complete the sequence.
Yeah, I did do that. Problem is that the remote doesn't correct itself on consecutive "Watch TV" presses. It still goes to the TV (coaxial) input. I've tried this about 10 times and everytime it goes to this input. I'm at the end of my rope here.
:confused:
beekeeper 01-03-08, 07:27 AM Well most of the time I use four remotes. I didn't find any easy (natural way) to use the following buttons...
TiVo
TiVo
Live TV
Thumbs (both but I don't use them often).
Instant rewind
Jump forward
Blu-ray
System menu (not disc menu)
Open/close
Dimmer
Display
Video format
Audio
Bookmark buttons (4)
Pop-up menu
Top menu
Pretty much repeat Blu-ray for HD DVD.
AV Receiver
Input buttons (9)
Dimmer
Top menu
Setup
Return (back)
Display
Listening mode buttons (8)
I have a few other remotes but they basically repeat the same layouts. These are the buttons I use most of the time. With the 880 I saw three issues.
1. The buttons that are native to my remotes (such as volume) appear to be harder to use than the actual remote's buttons. Such as TiVo's volume.
2. I presume most of the buttons I listed above will end up being device labeled at the top. Certainly not easy to use.
3. Finally with the need to label so many buttons (there are many more than I listed per remote) finding the ones I often or seldom use will take some hunting.
Usability of the buttons I could probably live with the 550. But that still leaves the other two items. Certainly I could flip through various screens trying to find what I want to do (no I couldn't use macros to define my typical usage) but right now I think I'd be better off using the actual remote.
What you describe is just about the same sort of thing I love the Harmony for.
The standard buttons, like record, play, and the like are the same but I shift some of the non-standard to the lcd screen. You list about eight, which would fit in one screen. i have my screen set up to show (for instance when I use the projector and home theater) the projectors unique commands in the lcd screen, while the buttons control the receiver and dvd player. For my dvrs, I have TV PIP functions on one screen and, dvr special functions on another.
Whenever I find a function that I need on the harmony, I add it instead of going back to to the units remote.
Truth is, I had little understanding of just what the Harmony could do, since I had used several all-in-one remotes as I added more equipment and was happy with them. But my wife could not use them because of the unique macros and buttons. I bought the harmony because of several comments by different posters- "Wife friendly remote". It is. The help function is worth the price of admission. Plus, I find it more friendly since I do not have to remember which button does what, since all that is standard for most functions, and all the rest is on a screen and labeled.
I found someone with the same problem as the one that I am having.
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=32411
Currently I am only using 2 inputs. S-Video1 for my Directv and HDMI for my 360/DVD/HD-DVD/HD Tuner (using Monoprice 5-1 switch). I have my inputs listed as
TV
S-Video
HDMI
Should I rearrange these inputs in reverse order since I am always pressing Watch TV when I am on the HDMI input?
ras1325 01-03-08, 11:34 AM Sometimes the icons on the main screen of devices switch around on my 880. Is this normal and is there anyway to lock them in place?
tbuick6 01-03-08, 12:24 PM Hi all.
Upon my recommendation, a friend of mine purchased the 880 to control his home theatre system. Unfortunately, he has a Bose Lifestyle 28 that is remote controlled via RF. The Bose's system settings does include an option to set the unit to receive IR commands. Even with this setting checked, the Bose does not recognize any commands from the Harmony. When I called Logitech, they said the 880 should control the Bose with no problem with the codes in their database. I had my friend contact Bose to see what they had to say and they said that we would have to teach the Bose's IR commands to the Harmony by using an IR emitter accessory that is plugged into the bose and pointed at the learning remote. In this scenario, we had to set the Bose's settings to "Send IR Commands" and use the Harmony's USB port and software to detect the Bose's commands. This process proved futile as the Harmony did not respond to any of the Bose's remote's keystrokes. After numerous additional phone calls to both Bose and Logitech, as well as days of internet forum searches, we have been unable to get it to control the Bose. All commands to the other devices (Sony HDTV, Explorer 8300HD DVR Box) work impeccably. Any other's here have any success with this set-up??....Please....???
Sometimes the icons on the main screen of devices switch around on my 880. Is this normal and is there anyway to lock them in place?
Does it happen a lot or just once after an update? I know you can rearrange the Activities but the Devices stay in alphabetical order.
Hi all.
Upon my recommendation, a friend of mine purchased the 880 to control his home theatre system. Unfortunately, he has a Bose Lifestyle 28 that is remote controlled via RF. The Bose's system settings does include an option to set the unit to receive IR commands. Even with this setting checked, the Bose does not recognize any commands from the Harmony. When I called Logitech, they said the 880 should control the Bose with no problem with the codes in their database. I had my friend contact Bose to see what they had to say and they said that we would have to teach the Bose's IR commands to the Harmony by using an IR emitter accessory that is plugged into the bose and pointed at the learning remote. In this scenario, we had to set the Bose's settings to "Send IR Commands" and use the Harmony's USB port and software to detect the Bose's commands. This process proved futile as the Harmony did not respond to any of the Bose's remote's keystrokes. After numerous additional phone calls to both Bose and Logitech, as well as days of internet forum searches, we have been unable to get it to control the Bose. All commands to the other devices (Sony HDTV, Explorer 8300HD DVR Box) work impeccably. Any other's here have any success with this set-up??....Please....???
Test the Bose remote. While covering the nose of the remote (where the transparent plastic is) send a command to the receiver. If it gets there it's still sending RF and not IR. Double check your settings. If it doesn't respond try teaching the Harmony again. Good luck!
wprager 01-03-08, 12:53 PM Yeah, I did do that. Problem is that the remote doesn't correct itself on consecutive "Watch TV" presses. It still goes to the TV (coaxial) input. I've tried this about 10 times and everytime it goes to this input. I'm at the end of my rope here.
:confused:
Well, second-level support is back at their desks today, so maybe you still have a little rope.
If you haven't already done it you should be sure to make sure they are aware of the Help button on the Harmony. Especially because their system has to cycle through the inputs things may get out of sync and the Help button will be the best way for anyone in the family to get things working again.
Bernie
Yes I did explain that. Also not to use other remotes to turn things on and how to access device mode for those less used functions that are not mapped to hard keys. I think the will use the remote more and more now.
Larry
tbuick6 01-03-08, 04:04 PM Test the Bose remote. While covering the nose of the remote (where the transparent plastic is) send a command to the receiver. If it gets there it's still sending RF and not IR. Double check your settings. If it doesn't respond try teaching the Harmony again. Good luck!
Thanks for the suggestion Joe. I tried that and the Bose was still responding to the Bose remote's commands. I tried covering the plastic as well as aiming the remote in the opposite direction. The commands were still being received and executed. I know we have the settings set correctly (Receive IR ON), yet this unit will not accept the Harmony's IR commands, nor stop receiving the Bose's RF commands. I checked to ensure that the Bose has the latest firmware (it does), so I don't know what else to try. I did recommend to my friend to dump the Bose and get a real AV Receiver :-) (I'm a Denon man myself).
22benjamin22 01-03-08, 04:17 PM Can the BOSE be in both IR and RF mode? If not, then it's still in RF regardless of what the switch says. That could be the problem
Well rearranging the order of my inputs didn't work. I really don't want to be on the phone with customer service for one hour.
:(
daFlave 01-03-08, 06:50 PM Hi everyone!
I 'am a long user of 676 for 4 years but just bought harmony 880 on boxing day. My question : Is there any way I can hand this thing on the wall?
Thank you.
Hi everyone!
I 'am a long user of 676 for 4 years but just bought harmony 880 on boxing day. My question : Is there any way I can hand this thing on the wall?
Thank you.
Assuming you meant hang, nope, the base needs to be flat.
FerrisYJ 01-03-08, 09:29 PM I hope it has completed by now and that your problem is resolved. If not, you didn't indicate whether you are connected via a broadband internet connection or a dial-up connection and that owuld obviously affect the time involved. It may also be possible that their site is just very busy because of all the people that have new units. Or your Firewall may be preventing things from downloading to your remote. If the problem persists you should call Logitech. Their Help desk is very good.
I'm on broadband, and it usually takes a few seconds to go through.
I left it overnight and it said it failed, but tonight it worked fine, go figure.
Another question. I have a Sharp 46D64U with a PS3, A30, Wii and 360. Every device uses the same TV input since they are all being fed to my TV via HDMI from my AVR. Is there a way to set an activity to watch a HD-DVD, which will also change my video mode to "movie", and have it change to "game" when I select the activity to play the 360? I could set up a macro that would push the AVmode button a certain number of times, but the number of presses would differ based on the activity that was being used before it.
Basicly, is there a way to set the remote to go directly to a video mode rather than scrolling through each mode until I get to the desired setting?
bernie33 01-04-08, 01:34 AM Another question. I have a Sharp 46D64U with a PS3, A30, Wii and 360. Every device uses the same TV input since they are all being fed to my TV via HDMI from my AVR. Is there a way to set an activity to watch a HD-DVD, which will also change my video mode to "movie", and have it change to "game" when I select the activity to play the 360? I could set up a macro that would push the AVmode button a certain number of times, but the number of presses would differ based on the activity that was being used before it.
Basicly, is there a way to set the remote to go directly to a video mode rather than scrolling through each mode until I get to the desired setting?
The answer is "maybe". If your TV has a way to go directly to a condition instead of cycling then it can be done. Even if your original remote can't do it directly the device may be capable of it and the Logitech database has a lot of those codes already there for you to use.
Another approach is for you to set up a sequence of commands at the end of an activity that always puts things back into some neutral status. I've done that for my AV system at the end of game playing.
Bernie
22benjamin22 01-04-08, 02:57 AM Related to that: my sony doesn't have discreet codes to directly dial those features in, so I have my second screen set to access these type of changes and I just change them manually as I see fit. I did this to not have to enter device mode and have the remote in an unusable state. I too, wish it had more discreet options. Hopefully your Sharp does.
Another approach is for you to set up a sequence of commands at the end of an activity that always puts things back into some neutral status. I've done that for my AV system at the end of game playing.
Bernie
Alternative approach is to have 880 perform a channel up after turning device on (w/ appropriate delay) so the known starting point is cable/antenna and then cycle (multiple next input commands) to destination input (w/ appropriate delays between each "next inputs").
Maverickster2 01-04-08, 10:18 AM As far as I can tell, from Logitech's forums and other places, there is no way to currently change the Activities icons on a 890. However, a friend of mine has done it and can't recall where he got instructions to do it.
I've done hours of reading here and remotecentral.com and I simply can't find instructions. Can someone help? Apologies if it's buried in this thread somewhere...
I don't think you can change the icons themselves, but you can change the background. Remote Preferences-->Set a Background-->Custom-->Upload a Background. You can get backgrounds (as well as Favorite Channel Icons)here:
http://squareworld.com/harmony/
Good luck!
--Mav
deevusone 01-04-08, 12:18 PM Hi,
I just received my 880 yesterday, and i playing with the setup wizard. After implementing the activities, i've noticed a few errors that i wasn't able to troubleshoot. The below list shows the devices that i have setup.
Sharp LC42D62U
Panasonic SA-HT744
Scientific Atlanta PVR 8300HD
Xbox 360
The problems I have is that when i choose either "WATCH PVR" or "PLAY CONSOLE (Xbox)" the TV input doesn't cycle to the correct input. I've chosen the option that the when i turn on or turn off the TV, the input remains the same. So if i turn off the TV at Input 1 and when i choose "PLAY CONSOLE" everything powers up, but the input on the TV does not cycle to input 2. On the original TV remote, there is only 1 input button, and i need to press the button a few times to cycle to the correct input. I've changed the response time on the remote to 200ms from the default 500ms, but it doesn't cycle through the inputs fast enough.
The other problem lies with the Panasonic Home Theatre system, if everything is powered up and i'm watching my PVR, i then decide to "PLAY CONSOLE" my audio on my panasonic cycles to the another channel. On my original remote, the AUX button operates two different functions if the button is pressed more than once. So say everything is turned on, and my panasonic is currently on AUX, and when i "PLAY CONSOLE" the activity changes my AUX to another channel b/c the activity is set to change it to AUX (which it already is) again when i selected the "PLAY CONSOLE"
Is there anyway i can fix this to have everything work properly?
Related to that: my sony doesn't have discreet codes to directly dial those features in, so I have my second screen set to access these type of changes and I just change them manually as I see fit. I did this to not have to enter device mode and have the remote in an unusable state. I too, wish it had more discreet options. Hopefully your Sharp does.
Are you sure about this? My old Sony had loads of discrete options that were nowhere on the remote. The Harmony database had them all and I was able to use them to fully control the set.
Hi,
I just received my 880 yesterday, and i playing with the setup wizard. After implementing the activities, i've noticed a few errors that i wasn't able to troubleshoot. The below list shows the devices that i have setup.
Sharp LC42D62U
Panasonic SA-
Scientific Atlanta PVR
Xbox 360
Koss DVD Player
The problems I have is that when i choose either "WATCH PVR" or "PLAY CONSOLE (Xbox)" the TV input doesn't cycle to the correct input. I've chosen the option that the when i turn on or turn off the TV, the input remains the same. So if i turn off the TV at Input 1 and when i choose "PLAY CONSOLE" everything powers up, but the input on the TV does not cycle to input 2. On the original TV remote, there is only 1 input button, and i need to press the button a few times to cycle to the correct input. I've changed the response time on the remote to 200ms from the default 500ms, but it doesn't cycle through the inputs fast enough.
The other problem lies with the Panasonic Home Theatre system, if everything is powered up and i'm watching my PVR, i then decide to "PLAY CONSOLE" my audio on my panasonic cycles to the another channel. On my original remote, the AUX button operates two different functions if the button is pressed more than once. So say everything is turned on, and my panasonic is currently on AUX, and when i "PLAY CONSOLE" the activity changes my AUX to another channel b/c the activity is set to change it to AUX (which it already is) again when i selected the "PLAY CONSOLE"
Is there anyway i can fix this to have everything work properly?
Tell the Harmony your TV is controlled by individual input buttons (yes lie to the Harmony) and see if THAT fixes the problem. :cool:
In case anyone is not interested in the Harmony One, Dell's got the 880 going for a really good price on a new one.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/TV_Accessories/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=A0466823
ras1325 01-04-08, 01:42 PM Does it happen a lot or just once after an update? I know you can rearrange the Activities but the Devices stay in alphabetical order.
It seems to happen randomly.
craig_wagner 01-04-08, 02:23 PM On the original TV remote, there is only 1 input button, and i need to press the button a few times to cycle to the correct input.
According to this page (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=pronto&db=discrete&br=sharp&dv=lcdtelevision) there are discrete codes for up to four inputs on Sharp LCD televisions. I would be surprised if those codes are not already in the Harmony database. That would be the first thing to check.
If they are not in the database, you can copy/paste them from the referenced page and send them to Harmony tech support with a request that they be added to your profile.
asnpcwiz 01-04-08, 02:24 PM Hi all.
Upon my recommendation, a friend of mine purchased the 880 to control his home theatre system. Unfortunately, he has a Bose Lifestyle 28 that is remote controlled via RF. The Bose's system settings does include an option to set the unit to receive IR commands. Even with this setting checked, the Bose does not recognize any commands from the Harmony. When I called Logitech, they said the 880 should control the Bose with no problem with the codes in their database. I had my friend contact Bose to see what they had to say and they said that we would have to teach the Bose's IR commands to the Harmony by using an IR emitter accessory that is plugged into the bose and pointed at the learning remote. In this scenario, we had to set the Bose's settings to "Send IR Commands" and use the Harmony's USB port and software to detect the Bose's commands. This process proved futile as the Harmony did not respond to any of the Bose's remote's keystrokes. After numerous additional phone calls to both Bose and Logitech, as well as days of internet forum searches, we have been unable to get it to control the Bose. All commands to the other devices (Sony HDTV, Explorer 8300HD DVR Box) work impeccably. Any other's here have any success with this set-up??....Please....???
Ok, this is my first post ever so I hope I do not sound too stupid. But this is something I actually have some experience doing. I have not tried programming my 880 with my lifestyle yet because I just got it for Christmas and haven't had the time. My original remote was a Sony touchscreen remote that only used IR commands and I was able to program it to use with the Lifestyle...I had to go through the same pains as your friend. This is what I did, and I hope it helps:
1 - Set Bose Lifestyle to send IR commands
2 - Plug in the IR receiver/trasmitter that comes with the Lifestyle into the back of the Lifestyle (long thin cable with small IR reciever at the end)
3 - Use the Bose remote to learn commands to Logitech 880
The key part to this is that you need to place the Logitech in front of the reciever that is attached to the Lifestyle. You need to align that Bose IR reciever to the learning IR on the 880 (I believe that is in the back/bottom). This is one of the rare times that you do not line up the remotes since the Bose Remote is incapable of sending IR...instead you line up the 880 to the IR receiver attached to the lifestyle. Once you do that, the 880 can learn commands. Let me know if that makes sense or if you need any other help.
Lighting Guy 01-04-08, 03:32 PM Hi,
I just received my 880 yesterday, and i playing with the setup wizard. After implementing the activities, i've noticed a few errors that i wasn't able to troubleshoot. The below list shows the devices that i have setup.
Sharp LC42D62U
Panasonic SA-
Scientific Atlanta PVR
Xbox 360
Koss DVD Player
The problems I have is that when i choose either "WATCH PVR" or "PLAY CONSOLE (Xbox)" the TV input doesn't cycle to the correct input. I've chosen the option that the when i turn on or turn off the TV, the input remains the same. So if i turn off the TV at Input 1 and when i choose "PLAY CONSOLE" everything powers up, but the input on the TV does not cycle to input 2. On the original TV remote, there is only 1 input button, and i need to press the button a few times to cycle to the correct input. I've changed the response time on the remote to 200ms from the default 500ms, but it doesn't cycle through the inputs fast enough.
The other problem lies with the Panasonic Home Theatre system, if everything is powered up and i'm watching my PVR, i then decide to "PLAY CONSOLE" my audio on my panasonic cycles to the another channel. On my original remote, the AUX button operates two different functions if the button is pressed more than once. So say everything is turned on, and my panasonic is currently on AUX, and when i "PLAY CONSOLE" the activity changes my AUX to another channel b/c the activity is set to change it to AUX (which it already is) again when i selected the "PLAY CONSOLE"
Is there anyway i can fix this to have everything work properly?
When you first set up your activity you can customize what, how many and what order your inputs are in. Make sure that is correct to your tv. If it is, than the next step is to increase your input delay time for your tv. It sounds like you have a similar problem to the inputs being listed incorrectly with your AVR too. Hope this helps.
Yeah, I did do that. Problem is that the remote doesn't correct itself on consecutive "Watch TV" presses. It still goes to the TV (coaxial) input. I've tried this about 10 times and everytime it goes to this input. I'm at the end of my rope here.
:confused:
You may want to try this: I've created a soft button called "fix TV Input" that switches my TV to HDMI-1 (my TV has auto sensing and once in a while, it may go past the input channel I've programmed it for, if the cable box is not on for some reason), I then hit the "Fix TV Input" soft button and it goes to the correct input. I suggest creating a similar button for your input. Hitting it after you hit the "Watch TV". If that works, then program that step in the advanced settings for your "Watch TV" sequence - and you may want to consider adding a delay if it does not work straight off the bat.
Is there a simple way to setup an activity with a tv as a device and not have the remote change/select the tv input?
rtanner 01-05-08, 12:36 AM Just got the 880 today. I like it but have some questions. I am using it with a Samsung LN-T4669F (TV) and Sony HTS-S2000 (AV).
1) When powering up the TV for tuner input the TV always defaults to Channel 12. It will turn on to the last channel used and then change to channel 12. I do not have any commands set up to do this. I would prefer it just come on to the last channel used (the same as if I used the Samsung remote).
2) One Activity I have set up is to use the TV with the AV system for sound while watching the TV. I would like the TV volume to be 0. Has anyone figured a cleaver way to do that without having 30 down volume commands? I would use mute but that leaves a "mute" box on he screen.
3) I have learned the "-" so that I can go to digital channels. It works with the favorite button choices but not with the default channel that can be set up. I get an error that the value must be a number.
4) It seems that the 880 knows more individual commands than my TV remote has. For instance to select the TV input source I have to either toggle through choices or use the menus. The 880 seems to have a command that just directly selects the various inputs. Is this true? Is there any way know what all is available? Maybe a volume to 0 command hidden somewhere.
bernie33 01-05-08, 01:34 AM Just got the 880 today. I like it but have some questions. I am using it with a Samsung LN-T4669F (TV) and Sony HTS-S2000 (AV).
1) When powering up the TV for tuner input the TV always defaults to Channel 12. It will turn on to the last channel used and then change to channel 12. I do not have any commands set up to do this. I would prefer it just come on to the last channel used (the same as if I used the Samsung remote).
In your third question it sounds like you've set the Harmony to tell your TV to go to a specific default channel (presumably channel 12 based on your questions). If you do not tell the Harmony to go to a default channel it should leave your TV where it was when you turned it off.
2) One Activity I have set up is to use the TV with the AV system for sound while watching the TV. I would like the TV volume to be 0. Has anyone figured a cleaver way to do that without having 30 down volume commands? I would use mute but that leaves a "mute" box on he screen.
We normally use our AV system with our Samsung TV so we always leave the TV volume at 0. When we use our Wii or if we want to use the TV audio then we turn the TV volume up. In our case we have our DVR feed our AV system so no sound is being sent to the TV which means that even if we forget to turn the TV volume down we don't hear anything through the TV's speakers.
3) I have learned the "-" so that I can go to digital channels. It works with the favorite button choices but not with the default channel that can be set up. I get an error that the value must be a number.
4) It seems that the 880 knows more individual commands than my TV remote has. For instance to select the TV input source I have to either toggle through choices or use the menus. The 880 seems to have a command that just directly selects the various inputs. Is this true? Is there any way know what all is available? Maybe a volume to 0 command hidden somewhere.
Yes, it is true that the Logitech database has direct commands for a lot of things that are not on the original remotes. I doubt that there is one to turn the volume to zero though.
tbuick6 01-05-08, 07:45 AM Ok, this is my first post ever so I hope I do not sound too stupid. But this is something I actually have some experience doing. I have not tried programming my 880 with my lifestyle yet because I just got it for Christmas and haven't had the time. My original remote was a Sony touchscreen remote that only used IR commands and I was able to program it to use with the Lifestyle...I had to go through the same pains as your friend. This is what I did, and I hope it helps:
1 - Set Bose Lifestyle to send IR commands
2 - Plug in the IR receiver/trasmitter that comes with the Lifestyle into the back of the Lifestyle (long thin cable with small IR reciever at the end)
3 - Use the Bose remote to learn commands to Logitech 880
The key part to this is that you need to place the Logitech in front of the reciever that is attached to the Lifestyle. You need to align that Bose IR reciever to the learning IR on the 880 (I believe that is in the back/bottom). This is one of the rare times that you do not line up the remotes since the Bose Remote is incapable of sending IR...instead you line up the 880 to the IR receiver attached to the lifestyle. Once you do that, the 880 can learn commands. Let me know if that makes sense or if you need any other help.
Thanks for suggestion asnpcwiz, but we did try that to no avail. We have since abandoned all hope.
rtanner 01-05-08, 11:25 AM bernie33 - thanks for your reply. I did try to add a default channel with the channel command. In that case the TV would turn on to the last used channel, change to channel 12 and then go to the default channel I set. I suspect it has something to do with the way the 880 tells the TV to go to the TV input source using the extra commands it knows. It could be very likely it is a TV response to the remote, not that the remote is setting the channel to 12.
I like a challenge and will keep playing with it.
rtanner 01-05-08, 01:02 PM I have played some more with the 880 controlling the TV. With regards to changing the channel to 12, it actually will change to the last analog channel viewed. It is caused by the "Input Antenna" command that sent by the 880. This command causes the TV to switch to the antenna input and then the TV switches to the most recently viewed analog channel. Since I am receiving OTA digital TV I rarely use the analog channels. Interestingly, if I use the TV menu to change to the antenna input the TV will display the most recent channel viewed either digital or analog.
You may want to try this: I've created a soft button called "fix TV Input" that switches my TV to HDMI-1 (my TV has auto sensing and once in a while, it may go past the input channel I've programmed it for, if the cable box is not on for some reason), I then hit the "Fix TV Input" soft button and it goes to the correct input. I suggest creating a similar button for your input. Hitting it after you hit the "Watch TV". If that works, then program that step in the advanced settings for your "Watch TV" sequence - and you may want to consider adding a delay if it does not work straight off the bat.
Called up Logitech and the tech updated the language codes for the remote. Worked instantly after the update to my remote.
It works great--but the only catch is you can't power on or off the PS3 this way. So you either have to get up off your lazy butt and power it on/off using the button on the console, or use the PS button on your sixaxxis controller.
I wonder why they didn't put a PS button on this thing? Weird...
I also just purchased the Nyko Blue Wave for my PS3. Added an activity to play games, and added the Nyko (codes were in the database) and it works okay. The only issue I have is, I would like to have the X key mapped to the OK button on the 880. At the moment if I press OK on the 880 it sends the Select button key on the Game Controller which when playing movies, shows the bit rate etc of the currently playing title. The X button also appears as a soft key. So to choose an item using the 880 you have to press the E key (which is inconvenient).
I tried to go into the Harmony software under Devices/Settings for the Nyko/Customize Buttons and map Button OK on the 880 to X but that didn't work. Any other ideas?
Thanks
eney2517 01-05-08, 03:17 PM I Just got the harmony 880 controller and the PS3. Unfortuneatly the PS3 Uses Bluetooth. Is there a way to use the Harmony 880 for the PS3
I also just purchased the Nyko Blue Wave for my PS3. Added an activity to play games, and added the Nyko (codes were in the database) and it works okay. The only issue I have is, I would like to have the X key mapped to the OK button on the 880. At the moment if I press OK on the 880 it sends the Select button key on the Game Controller which when playing movies, shows the bit rate etc of the currently playing title. The X button also appears as a soft key. So to choose an item using the 880 you have to press the E key (which is inconvenient).
I tried to go into the Harmony software under Devices/Settings for the Nyko/Customize Buttons and map Button OK on the 880 to X but that didn't work. Any other ideas?
Thanks
Are you in Device mode when you're using the remote or are you in Activity mode? Changing the buttons in the Device settings has no effect on the buttons in Activity mode. Just a guess.
deevusone 01-05-08, 03:28 PM When you first set up your activity you can customize what, how many and what order your inputs are in. Make sure that is correct to your tv. If it is, than the next step is to increase your input delay time for your tv. It sounds like you have a similar problem to the inputs being listed incorrectly with your AVR too. Hope this helps.
I've already customized the order and the name of the inputs exactly to the TV. I've also increased the delay to 0ms, and the inputs doesn't cycle to the correct inputs for the selected activity. Once in a while it'll cycle through 1 or 2 inputs but it doesn't keep cycling to the correct one. I've also noticed that the remote doesn't cycle the TV inputs during the initial power up of a selected activity (all units were off). In the setup process, i selected the option "....input remains the same when powered off...."
deevusone 01-05-08, 03:33 PM Another approach is for you to set up a sequence of commands at the end of an activity that always puts things back into some neutral status. I've done that for my AV system at the end of game playing.
Bernie
How did you do that?
deevusone 01-05-08, 03:36 PM Tell the Harmony your TV is controlled by individual input buttons (yes lie to the Harmony) and see if THAT fixes the problem. :cool:
i tried... it didn't work. :(
deevusone 01-05-08, 03:40 PM According to this page (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=pronto&db=discrete&br=sharp&dv=lcdtelevision) there are discrete codes for up to four inputs on Sharp LCD televisions. I would be surprised if those codes are not already in the Harmony database. That would be the first thing to check.
If they are not in the database, you can copy/paste them from the referenced page and send them to Harmony tech support with a request that they be added to your profile.
where can i check if the codes are in the harmony database?
SnellKrell 01-05-08, 04:03 PM After I set up the 880 to work with my Sharp TV, the discrete inputs were visible on the Device menu as Input1, Input2, etc.
Those codes were in the Harmony data bank for me.
I Just got the harmony 880 controller and the PS3. Unfortuneatly the PS3 Uses Bluetooth. Is there a way to use the Harmony 880 for the PS3
There is. You pick up the Nyko controller which is a USB device that supports IR commands for the PS3. The commands are already in the Logitech database. The only thing that control (and of course the 880) cannot do, is turn the PS3 on and off. This is because the USB port is not powered when the PS3 is in standby so there is no way for the PS3 to respond to commands over USB. OTOH the BT module inside is still powered and so can respond to the 6-axis controller
Are you in Device mode when you're using the remote or are you in Activity mode? Changing the buttons in the Device settings has no effect on the buttons in Activity mode. Just a guess.
Good guess. I was in device mode. Hadn't realised you could customise buttons in Activity mode. When I did that, it worked fine. Thanks
jaxnjil 01-05-08, 04:25 PM i started a thread for this but am adding it here to too help if someone is searching and thread gets buried
Magnavox 42MF 337B and Harmony 880
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i wasnt able to find any thing about magnavox LCD's and use with the 880 so am throwing this in for any one else that might have trouble getting them to work together.
when i tried to program my harmony to work with my magnavox 42mf337b HD-A3 and yamaha rx-v661 the tv wouldnt turn on or if it did would'nt turn on to proper input mode,in my case i needed av3 and hdmi2.
when i programed tv to remote it took me to a learn screen to try to enter comands from my tv remote to 880. this was a painfull ,long drawn out,and not very successful.
after one afternoon, three calls to logiteck, two attempts to load and up date my computer was able to have dvd, av reciver,and direct tv box to kind of work but throw tv in and nothing worked well and tv wouldnt work with out its own remote
i got to thinking since magnavox is now the bargain brand for phillips and phillips seems to be more popular maybe an equivalent philips model might program better.
BINGO i used phillips and model number 42PFL7432D in place of my magnavox information and every thing works perfect the first try no tweeks. the choices for programing were all on the setup menu and all i had to do was check the approiate boxes.
if you have a magnavox and are having trouble hope this helps.
raghu1111 01-05-08, 07:55 PM Harmony One : looks pretty good : http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/3898&cl=us,en
$250 touch screen. Needs to be more iPhone-like.
frantic1049 01-05-08, 08:09 PM I had been struggling with the input changing on my tv also. My tv fits the profile of method #1 for changing inputs, but that wasn't working. I tried lying & using method #2 but that didn't work either. I finally started a new account & entered my tv all over again, and noticed that harmony wanted to use method #3, which didn't sound anything like this particular televsion! I added 2 basic activities, which used different tv inputs, then updated my remote with this new account. When I tested it out, it worked great!
So I went back in to the new account, wrote down all the settings for changing inputs on my tv & then logged back into my original account, changed to those settings, updated my remote again and now it changes to the appropriate inputs almost instantly. And I didn't lose the other settings & buttons that I had programmed before!
It would seem that even though I have to toggle through the inputs with one button on my television remote, the television actually responds to separate buttons for each input! Two weeks to get to this point, but now I couldn't be happier!
sivartk 01-05-08, 08:51 PM $250 touch screen. Needs to be more iPhone-like.
Have you ever used a touch screen for a remote? I tried one and returned it quickly. I like the tactile feedback especially when skipping commercials on DVR'd shows.
This new one is intriguing, a 880 type remote with the 659 style rubber buttons...awesome.
Have you ever used a touch screen for a remote? I tried one and returned it quickly.
Did you read it? I says touch screen.
i tried... it didn't work. :(
Try Harmony Tech Support. If they can't fix it...
$250 touch screen. Needs to be more iPhone-like.
That would be the 1000. ;)
sivartk 01-06-08, 01:50 AM Did you read it? I says touch screen.
Yes, you said it needs to be more iPhone like...meaning no buttons. Touch screen for the activities is fine, I don't use my soft keys for much more than changing the activity anyway.
bernie33 01-06-08, 05:24 PM How did you do that?
As I recall, near the end of the setup process, you are asked if there is anything else that you need to adjust. If you say yes you can get to additional screens that allow you to do more tweaking, including adding commands to be issued upon exciting an Activity.
smitchell24 01-07-08, 12:57 PM Anyone have the 880 remote AND Panasonic DMP-BD30 and successfully been able to start it when hitting the "start DVD' activity? After I hit "start DVD", it turns on my Sony projector, Onkyo 805 & Panasonic DVD player, but requires me to hit Play or Menu on the Panasonic to load the movie. Have gone under the 880 settings & clicked the setting about auto "play" when everything turns on, but as of now, after I wait a minute or 2 to fire & turn everything, I still need to hit play & wait an additional 60 seconds or so for the Blu Ray to load.
About 90% of DVD players will turn on with the "play" command. Use play to turn the DVD player on instead of the "on" command. Hope this works for you.
Crazytrekker 01-07-08, 02:09 PM I've tweaked the "delay" and "repeat" settings on my 885 and I still can't get it to switch on my Sony PVR (RDR-HX870) as part of the "Watch PVR" activity.
The on/off button (PowerToggle) that I downloaded from the Harmony website still works perfectly in "Device" mode.
I've even tried fooling the 885 into thinking there's a separate "on" and "off" button. No success.
These are my settings:
Power delay: 1000
Inter key delay: 0
Input delay: 100
Inter-device delay: 500
Repeat: 0 (I'm reluctant to make this slower because it slows ALL the functions down)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
I've tweaked the "delay" and "repeat" settings on my 885 and I still can't get it to switch on my Sony PVR (RDR-HX870) as part of the "Watch PVR" activity.
Go to "Power settings" for the PVR device and make sure it is set to "Turn this device Off when not in use".
Try re-learning the power command in RAW, and hold the button on the factory remote down longer (about a second) when teaching.
I have a JVC TV that has no direct access buttons for switching video inputs (stupid design). Fortunately when I programmed in the TV in the 880 it found a bunch of discrete codes that work for all bar one of the inputs. The one that doesn't work is HDMI but I was able to get that by selecting discrete Video 4 and then Input Next.
In redoing setup I managed to make my TV think it had to cycle through inputs. Tried going back to the direct key method which is fine but now I can't work out how I got HDMI selected by 1) Sending Video4 2) InputNext
Anybody know this can be done?
Thanks
Larry
frantic1049 01-07-08, 05:10 PM I have a JVC TV that has no direct access buttons for switching video inputs (stupid design). Fortunately when I programmed in the TV in the 880 it found a bunch of discrete codes that work for all bar one of the inputs. The one that doesn't work is HDMI but I was able to get that by selecting discrete Video 4 and then Input Next.
In redoing setup I managed to make my TV think it had to cycle through inputs. Tried going back to the direct key method which is fine but now I can't work out how I got HDMI selected by 1) Sending Video4 2) InputNext
Anybody know this can be done?
Thanks
Larry
I'm new to the Harmony, but if you read my post from the other day about input switching, you'll see I was having problems as well. What I didn't mention was that the tv I was referring to is also a JVC. I don't currently use the hdmi, but I had to tell the Harmony that I have separate input buttons, even though it is only one button to cycle through. And I only got to that point by starting over with a new account, then changing the settings in my first account to match.
btw, my other JVC does have a separate button for each input. :cool:
I'm new to the Harmony, but if you read my post from the other day about input switching, you'll see I was having problems as well. What I didn't mention was that the tv I was referring to is also a JVC. I don't currently use the hdmi, but I had to tell the Harmony that I have separate input buttons, even though it is only one button to cycle through. And I only got to that point by starting over with a new account, then changing the settings in my first account to match.
btw, my other JVC does have a separate button for each input. :cool:
The problem I have is, while the JVC I have doesn't have direct buttons for each input on its remote, when I enter the model number into the Harmony database it loads the Harmony up with a bunch of discrete codes that actually work (presumably from an earlier JVC that did have discrete codes).
That's cool but what's missing is HDMI. I used to be able to get there by programming HDMI as InputVideo4 and then NextInput but I can't for the life of me work out how I did that (unless Harmony tech support had to do it for me).
VisionOn 01-07-08, 06:07 PM I've tweaked the "delay" and "repeat" settings on my 885 and I still can't get it to switch on my Sony PVR (RDR-HX870) as part of the "Watch PVR" activity.
I can't get it to turn on my 8300 DVR since I added a Sony XBR5 to the mix despite delay adjustments. I'm thinking the power on cycle using HDMI is messing something up or a recent update to the 880 is doing something.
I just added an SR875 receiver last week and I'm so loathe to actually setup the remote again, edit the activities and remove all the functionless buttons it will undoubtedly add to the LCD panel when I enter the receiver model, that I really can't be bothered reprogramming it. Especially since the 875 will turn on automatically with CEC enabled and trying to trick the 880 into not switching something on (and so off again) when the activity starts sounds like more trial, error and shuffling of sequences.
The problem I have is, while the JVC I have doesn't have direct buttons for each input on its remote, when I enter the model number into the Harmony database it loads the Harmony up with a bunch of discrete codes that actually work (presumably from an earlier JVC that did have discrete codes).
That's cool but what's missing is HDMI. I used to be able to get there by programming HDMI as InputVideo4 and then NextInput but I can't for the life of me work out how I did that (unless Harmony tech support had to do it for me).
Was it part of an activity setup?
Set up the activity to go to InputVideo4
Choose the "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity" option.
Add an action for NextInput.
frantic1049 01-07-08, 06:51 PM The problem I have is, while the JVC I have doesn't have direct buttons for each input on its remote, when I enter the model number into the Harmony database it loads the Harmony up with a bunch of discrete codes that actually work (presumably from an earlier JVC that did have discrete codes).
That's cool but what's missing is HDMI. I used to be able to get there by programming HDMI as InputVideo4 and then NextInput but I can't for the life of me work out how I did that (unless Harmony tech support had to do it for me).
Well please let us (me) know how you resolve it. We will be switching to hdmi sometime later this year, when our a/v receiver is replaced by one that supports hdmi. If you do get this resolved I'll just save your answer for that time! ;)
Was it part of an activity setup?
Set up the activity to go to InputVideo4
Choose the "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity" option.
Add an action for NextInput.
Yes I had thought of that and perhaps that is one way to do it. It's a pain since I have 4 activities that use HDMI (Play BluRay, Play HD-DVD, Play Game on PS3 and watch PVR) (My TV only has one HDMI input so part of the activity has to switch my HDMI switcher to the right input). THe frustrating thing is, I know I had this programmed another way (as part of select HDMI) and I can't work out how to repeat this (unless it was something that Harmony support did for me).
Larry
Crazytrekker 01-07-08, 07:57 PM Go to "Power settings" for the PVR device and make sure it is set to "Turn this device Off when not in use".
Try re-learning the power command in RAW, and hold the button on the factory remote down longer (about a second) when teaching.
Tried all that this evening. Still nothing. There's definitely something wrong with the way the 885 is handling this piece of Sony kit.
My Panasonic telly, Pioneer laserdisc player, Pace satellite receiver, Denon DVD player, Panasonic VCR and Denon receiver all work perfectly.
I guess I'll just have to turn the Sony on/off manually using the function button I added to the Activities menu. I still don't understand why THAT works but it doesn't work as part of the activity sequence itself.
Crazytrekker 01-07-08, 08:00 PM I can't get it to turn on my 8300 DVR since I added a Sony XBR5 to the mix despite delay adjustments. I'm thinking the power on cycle using HDMI is messing something up or a recent update to the 880 is doing something.
Bizarre! Could this be a Sony thing?
(BTW I haven't got anything set up with HDMI, my telling is a run of the mill Panasonic widescreen CRT)
VisionOn 01-07-08, 08:13 PM Bizarre! Could this be a Sony thing?
(BTW I haven't got anything set up with HDMI, my telling is a run of the mill Panasonic widescreen CRT)
This has only started happening recently with the introduction of the XBR to my setup. That's when I had to obviously update the remote. I've had other Sony components working fine before and if it's not an HDMI problem for you then I would guess it could be a Harmony problem.
Tried all that this evening. Still nothing. There's definitely something wrong with the way the 885 is handling this piece of Sony kit.
My Panasonic telly, Pioneer laserdisc player, Pace satellite receiver, Denon DVD player, Panasonic VCR and Denon receiver all work perfectly.
I guess I'll just have to turn the Sony on/off manually using the function button I added to the Activities menu. I still don't understand why THAT works but it doesn't work as part of the activity sequence itself.
Have you tried putting it in the activity a second time, in addition to the automatic entry?
VisionOn 01-07-08, 08:33 PM I just entered my new SR875 reciever into my Harmony setup and I think this nicely demonstrates how flat out broken the software is for anyone with any idea what they are doing.
It added 98 buttons over 13 screens to the LCD setup. Which ones actually work? Which are actually remote commands but have different names? Who knows? It even added buttons for the SR905 which the 875 doesn't have the functionality for. So in order to properly customize the remote I have to test every one, delete, and clicky click rearrange them one at a time to suit my priorities over 13 pages.
They should give you the option of what the setup dumps on you because it's easier to start with a blank screen and then add only the commands you want. Giving you a full visible list of commands instead of one line at a time that you can just drag across would be the better option.
I just can't take this any more. I think I'm going to have to look at the Pronto or MX. Having the software tell you how it should work and not giving you any option to do it yourself is like having your Ferrari tied to the back of a bus.
nolefan9399 01-07-08, 08:35 PM anyone know the model # for xbox 360
anyone know the model # for xbox 360
Should be Xbox 360
todd03blown 01-07-08, 10:30 PM Should be Xbox 360
yep; that i what I used and it works great.
nolefan9399 01-07-08, 11:06 PM help
in my living room i have a samsung 58" and a samsung 32" side by side. i set up each one on the harmony. but when i tell it to turn one on it will cut the other off and vise verse. what do i do?
help
in my living room i have a samsung 58" and a samsung 32" side by side. i set up each one on the harmony. but when i tell it to turn one on it will cut the other off and vise verse. what do i do?
Not sure there is anything you can do. Both TV's respond to the same command set since they are both Samsung. The only way is to either take one out of the room or tape over the remote sensor of the one that you use less frequently.
nolefan9399 01-08-08, 07:06 AM Not sure there is anything you can do. Both TV's respond to the same command set since they are both Samsung. The only way is to either take one out of the room or tape over the remote sensor of the one that you use less frequently.
do you know where the sensor is on these samsungs. i out a tape over the red button in the front but it did not work. the harmony thinks these TVs are the same.
craig_wagner 01-08-08, 09:48 AM do you know where the sensor is on these samsungs. i out a tape over the red button in the front but it did not work. the harmony thinks these TVs are the same.
It's not the Harmony's fault. You have two devices from the same manufacturer that respond to the same IR codes. The Harmony is sending a "Power Toggle" command and both sets are saying, "I just got a power toggle command, okay, I'll do that." If you take the factory remote for one of the sets and press a button, do both sets respond to the button press? The remote is just a transmitter of commands, it is up to the device to know what to do with the command.
The red button is likely the power button. Check your owner's manual. It may show a picture of the set with the location of the sensor. The manuals for both my receiver and television show where the sensor is located. Keep in mind if you do this it will prevent the taped over one from receiver ANY IR signals (IOW the remote won't do ANYTHING to that TV).
With all the cradle/charging problems I wonder why Logitech hasn't considered charging through the USB input like many cell phones do. I don't think durability would be an issue. I've used my cell phone that charges like this charging it every day for almost 2 years, my 880 only needs charged every two weeks or so.
beekeeper 01-09-08, 05:55 AM help
in my living room i have a samsung 58" and a samsung 32" side by side. i set up each one on the harmony. but when i tell it to turn one on it will cut the other off and vise verse. what do i do?
Check to see if there are discrete power on and power off signals, not just a power toggle. If so, use them.
If not, check the manuals. Sometimes there are methods of changing the signals (A or B) when there are two of the same model, but usually for units like VCRs, not TVs which are expected to be by themselves. Or call samsung and ask.
wprager 01-09-08, 07:32 AM With all the cradle/charging problems I wonder why Logitech hasn't considered charging through the USB input like many cell phones do. I don't think durability would be an issue. I've used my cell phone that charges like this charging it every day for almost 2 years, my 880 only needs charged every two weeks or so.
What *are* the cradle/charging problems? I've only had my 880 for about two weeks, no problems so far. Is the problem still present with the latest units sold or something from the past?
nolefan9399 01-09-08, 08:59 AM When I select an activity the TV never goes to the right input, the other device do. Did I set up wrong?
bernie33 01-09-08, 12:48 PM What *are* the cradle/charging problems? I've only had my 880 for about two weeks, no problems so far. Is the problem still present with the latest units sold or something from the past?
In some older versions, some units eventually had problems making adequate contact to recharge. The problem has presumably been corrected in the newer versions which have two contacts instead of three and which have a magnet which secures the remote to the base.
(In any case, I would not think USB charging would be a good idea for most people/families. It would require access to the cable and access to a computer and be much more inconvenient. Unlike a PDA which many of us routinely connect to a computer for backup and/or synchronization purposes anyway.)
bernie33 01-09-08, 12:50 PM When I select an activity the TV never goes to the right input, the other device do. Did I set up wrong?
Maybe. But many TV's sense the devices that are connected or powered on and only offer those devices as options when selecting inputs. You may simply be having a problem with the order that the devices are being powered on.
Me too as for timing of device issues. I have a new Mitsubishi DLP and it's so sloooooow I often have to correct what the Harmony did. I'm constantly palying with timing issues. It's not the Harmony's fault the Mits takes different times to do something depending where it's starting from! Argh!
blynott 01-09-08, 05:58 PM I have an 880 that only holds it's charge for a couple of days. However it always shows full charge after charging. I just put in on the cradle every night. I tried letting it discharge fully thinking that it might then charge more fully, but there was no change. I just got mine at Best Buy and it appears to be the older unit. No wonder it was cheaper.
Yes. You'll end up with two Watch TV activities, one for each television.
If they both respond to the same remote codes, you might have an issue. This is a likely scenario when you have display devices from the same manufacturer.
So for example one could be on and other off. Send an on/off code and one will go on and the other go off!
In some older versions, some units eventually had problems making adequate contact to recharge. The problem has presumably been corrected in the newer versions which have two contacts instead of three and which have a magnet which secures the remote to the base.
(In any case, I would not think USB charging would be a good idea for most people/families. It would require access to the cable and access to a computer and be much more inconvenient. Unlike a PDA which many of us routinely connect to a computer for backup and/or synchronization purposes anyway.)
I went through two charging stations since the contact was not always being made. In the end I took a risk and dropped bits of solder on each contact on the base station so that the connections protruded up a bit more, taking care not to melt the plastic(!). Now I can put the 880 on the charging station and it always makes a good connection.
Larry
nolefan9399 01-09-08, 06:14 PM If they both respond to the same remote codes, you might have an issue. This is a likely scenario when you have display devices from the same manufacturer.
So for example one could be on and other off. Send an on/off code and one will go on and the other go off!
this is what happens. it thinks they are the same TV. I just unplug the 32" till I need it.
nolefan9399 01-09-08, 06:19 PM i have DTV's HD DVR HR20. the original remote had a button to see your to do list. what button would I use for this feature on the harmony?
TheMoose 01-09-08, 06:22 PM i have DTV's HD DVR HR20. the original remote had a button to see your to do list. what button would I use for this feature on the harmony?
I just mapped it to the LCD screen in the HR20 activity as well as the red, green, yellow, & blue buttons.
nolefan9399 01-09-08, 06:39 PM I just mapped it to the LCD screen in the HR20 activity as well as the red, green, yellow, & blue buttons.
found it thanks
wdkerbow 01-09-08, 06:51 PM I was calling into Harmony Support last night to help with an issue (remote not connecting to web site)
Anyway, the tech I talked to said: "Well, let's update the software on your PC instead, the web site is going away and we are pushing everyone who calls to use the software instead." I said: "Really? Wow, that's going to make a lot of people upset." He asked "How so?" I said "Amost everyone prefers the web site interface as opposed to the software interface." He said, "Oh, well, the software has been re-done so it looks pretty much the same as the web site." I just laughed, and said, "OK, we'll see." I installed the software and it looks nothing like the web site interface.
He could not give me a date on when this would be happening, but he seemed to indicate that it would be this year.
Anyone else heard this?
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