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rehaz1
03-19-08, 10:26 AM
I've been trying to find out where to do so, but haven't been able.

Where do you find the command string for the Off Button? I mean how do you add or change the order of the device for the OFF button?

how do you also change the on/off discreet command?

You can't program the off button when you press it, it turns off any devices turned on via Activities

22benjamin22
03-19-08, 12:16 PM
You can, it's related to the order that things are turned on in each activity.

IE. The YSP should be the last thing to turn on in each activity, and then it will be the last to turn off (if I remember that right, it could be the exact opposite - and reverse the order. I haven't had to adjust these in a while). Check your current activity settings. If it's near/at the front of the list, move it to the end and test. If not, swap it to the front of the order.

claymanhb
03-19-08, 01:09 PM
I tried searching the thread but couldn't find an answer. I've had my charging dock replaced twice and the 880 replaced once. It seems like it works well for a month and then gets the same issue. Where it beeps the whole time on the charger an doesn't fully charge. Has anyone actually opened one of these two up to find the problem? I want to open it to fix the loose connection.

strutter
03-19-08, 02:11 PM
I tried searching the thread but couldn't find an answer. I've had my charging dock replaced twice and the 880 replaced once. It seems like it works well for a month and then gets the same issue. Where it beeps the whole time on the charger an doesn't fully charge. Has anyone actually opened one of these two up to find the problem? I want to open it to fix the loose connection.

are you sure its a loose connection inside? if you had both replaced and its still doing it the likely hood of it being a problem inside is slim.
this sound like the same problem many people including myself have had. cleaning the contacts sometimes temporarily fixes it. a more permanent solution is to have logitech replace it with the new base that uses a magnet instead of the center contact.

claymanhb
03-19-08, 04:18 PM
are you sure its a loose connection inside? if you had both replaced and its still doing it the likely hood of it being a problem inside is slim.
this sound like the same problem many people including myself have had. cleaning the contacts sometimes temporarily fixes it. a more permanent solution is to have logitech replace it with the new base that uses a magnet instead of the center contact.

I think I have the magnet base. It's been replaced already...twice. How would I know if it's the magnet version?

joe221
03-19-08, 04:43 PM
I think I have the magnet base. It's been replaced already...twice. How would I know if it's the magnet version?

The middle contact is black not brass. Touch it with something metal (unplug it please!:eek:)

claymanhb
03-19-08, 04:51 PM
The middle contact is black not brass. Touch it with something metal (unplug it please!:eek:)

LOL...I'll unplug it and check. Thanks.

SaltiDawg
03-19-08, 04:54 PM
The middle contact is black not brass. Touch it with something metal (unplug it please!:eek:)
Is it an Electro-magnet? :)

joe221
03-19-08, 11:23 PM
Is it an Electro-magnet? :)

No,,, but those two brass contacts may have something to say about your joking...:p;):D

SaltiDawg
03-20-08, 09:23 AM
No,,, but those two brass contacts may have something to say about your joking...:p;):D
The magnet is the center "contact" and the other two are low voltage. In order to get "shocked" one would need to simultaneously come in contact with the outer two contacts. Make sure you remove the batteries from your flashlight before changing the bulb. :rolleyes:

Lighten up.

joe221
03-20-08, 03:57 PM
The magnet is the center "contact" and the other two are low voltage. In order to get "shocked" one would need to simultaneously come in contact with the outer two contacts. Make sure you remove the batteries from your flashlight before changing the bulb. :rolleyes:

Lighten up.

Always do! Also, I put on rubber soled shoes when I turn my PC's power on. You can't be too cautious. :cool:

HiHoStevo
03-22-08, 12:23 AM
for the device turning back on, adjust the order of the devices and ensure you are using discreet on/off commands. My Onkyo Receiver doesn't have this issue, but I've experienced something a little random with my HD-DVD player and had to move the device power on/off order to fix it. If you place the device having the issue at the end of the sequence, it should receive the last off command and be done.

For learning the IR codes for the drapes, there is a learn new device (or something similar) function. I used this to teach my remote a triple press of FF for TiVo. Now one press gives me triple fast forward for commercial skip =]

I'm at work and can't check it out right now, but I remember it being obvious when I went looking for it.


How do you change the sequence of the items that are shutting down?

I think I asked Harmony Tech Support to do just that and they told me it could not be changed...:rolleyes:

22benjamin22
03-22-08, 05:40 PM
You have to change the startup sequence for each activity and it does affect the shutdown sequence. You may have to play with it and reverse the order to accomplish your goal, but it should be attainable.

Jswerve
03-23-08, 08:04 AM
Hey guys quick question. I am using the 880 with my VIP 622 and Onkyo 605 receiver. I cannot control the volume on the receiver without switching from the satellite to receiver device. How can I make it so I can control the volume without switching components?

supwdatt
03-23-08, 10:06 AM
Hey guys quick question. I am using the 880 with my VIP 622 and Onkyo 605 receiver. I cannot control the volume on the receiver without switching from the satellite to receiver device. How can I make it so I can control the volume without switching components?

When you set up your activities you would have been asked if you want this(or that) device to control the volume during the activity. So go back through them to see if the appropriate device was selected. Change it, save and update your remote.

sflamedic
03-23-08, 10:35 AM
How does the 880 work with the xbox360? Will it beable to go to dashboard and pick either movie or game? Thanks

Jswerve
03-23-08, 10:48 AM
When you set up your activities you would have been asked if you want this(or that) device to control the volume during the activity. So go back through them to see if the appropriate device was selected. Change it, save and update your remote.
I'll try it but I am sure I chose the Receiver...

Well it was setup properly but was not working. I reset it anyway and it works now. Not sure what the deal was..

rockemsockem
03-23-08, 01:02 PM
What do you guys do to compensate for the lack of Picture and Sound Buttons to make audio/video adjustments on the fly?

Did you just reprogram the entire device menus?

Jswerve
03-23-08, 01:04 PM
What do you guys do to compensate for the lack of Picture and Sound Buttons to make audio/video adjustments on the fly?

Did you just reprogram the entire device menus?
Nothing for me. I have no need for "on the fly adjustments". I simply calibrate everything and let it be.

userb
03-23-08, 02:00 PM
What do you guys do to compensate for the lack of Picture and Sound Buttons to make audio/video adjustments on the fly?

Did you just reprogram the entire device menus?

Depends on what you're trying to do. I have discrete commands for audio from the receiver (stereo, 5ch, dts, dolby, etc...) mapped to the lcd screen for various activities to change on the fly if I need to (like music or games or movies on the HTPC or PS3).

bernie33
03-23-08, 04:57 PM
What do you guys do to compensate for the lack of Picture and Sound Buttons to make audio/video adjustments on the fly?

Did you just reprogram the entire device menus?

I almost never make audio or video adjustments once the equipment is setup initially. In the unlikely event that I do not want to play with them, or just review them, the buttons are already automatically set up for each of the components in my system. I just hit the Device button on the 880, select the device from the list on the LCD screen and find the appropriate buttons in the pages that are already programmed for that device.

Bernie

supwdatt
03-23-08, 05:40 PM
I almost never make audio or video adjustments once the equipment is setup initially. In the unlikely event that I do not want to play with them, or just review them, the buttons are already automatically set up for each of the components in my system. I just hit the Device button on the 880, select the device from the list on the LCD screen and find the appropriate buttons in the pages that are already programmed for that device.

Bernie

What he said.. :cool:

DavidPotter
03-23-08, 06:25 PM
I found the device pages to be littered with commands that didn't work, that were labeled differently than on the original remote, or that were laid out in a way that made them difficult to find or use. I tested out each command for each device, matched it to the original button, and then completely rearranged my device pages. Many command were removed in the process which meant fewer device pages as well.

The whole process was a real big pain. While the button user interface in the software is cool, I find it very difficult to use for large changes like this. I'd love to be able to download a text file, edit it, then upload it again.

SaltiDawg
03-23-08, 06:37 PM
I almost never make audio or video adjustments once the equipment is setup initially. In the unlikely event that I do not want to play with them, or just review them, the buttons are already automatically set up for each of the components in my system. I just hit the Device button on the 880, select the device from the list on the LCD screen and find the appropriate buttons in the pages that are already programmed for that device.

I had my set ISF Calibrated and if my wife found me messing with any settings - well I don't. ;)

supwdatt
03-24-08, 08:13 AM
I'll try it but I am sure I chose the Receiver...

Well it was setup properly but was not working. I reset it anyway and it works now. Not sure what the deal was..


I do. I'ts called evil spirits and bad luck!! Happens to me all the time. ;)

Jswerve
03-24-08, 09:04 AM
I do. I'ts called evil spirits and bad luck!! Happens to me all the time. ;)
LOL :D

Yuss
03-24-08, 09:29 AM
How does the 880 work with the xbox360? Will it beable to go to dashboard and pick either movie or game? Thanks

Yes it does. I have the 880 set up with most of the regular controller buttons - X, B, A, X, Xbox 360 guide - takes me to the dashboard, etc.
I use it for all my 360 activities, except playing games. I don't have to use the 360 controller at all when I'm using the 360 as a media center.

sflamedic
03-24-08, 01:23 PM
Yes it does. I have the 880 set up with most of the regular controller buttons - X, B, A, X, Xbox 360 guide - takes me to the dashboard, etc.
I use it for all my 360 activities, except playing games. I don't have to use the 360 controller at all when I'm using the 360 as a media center.

Thanks for the reply.

LarrynKy
03-24-08, 08:57 PM
I recently bought two 880's using the coupon from Amazon. My wife and I each use one on the same tv/avr/dvd setup. I setup one account on the Logitech website and setup one of the remotes and then simply updated the other remote with the same setup. It seems if I "Watch TV" with one remote that I can not turn off the system with the other but rather can only turn off with the one that originally turned on the equipment. Any ideas so that these two remotes work independently on the same equipment? I am sure this will be easily exchanged but can not find any information on this. Thanks in advance.

supwdatt
03-24-08, 10:55 PM
I recently bought two 880's using the coupon from Amazon. My wife and I each use one on the same tv/avr/dvd setup. I setup one account on the Logitech website and setup one of the remotes and then simply updated the other remote with the same setup. It seems if I "Watch TV" with one remote that I can not turn off the system with the other but rather can only turn off with the one that originally turned on the equipment. Any ideas so that these two remotes work independently on the same equipment? I am sure this will be easily exchanged but can not find any information on this. Thanks in advance.

One remote is from Mars, and the other is from Venus... ;)

LarrynKy
03-24-08, 10:58 PM
So it seems.... :)

bernie33
03-24-08, 11:16 PM
I recently bought two 880's using the coupon from Amazon. My wife and I each use one on the same tv/avr/dvd setup. I setup one account on the Logitech website and setup one of the remotes and then simply updated the other remote with the same setup. It seems if I "Watch TV" with one remote that I can not turn off the system with the other but rather can only turn off with the one that originally turned on the equipment. Any ideas so that these two remotes work independently on the same equipment? I am sure this will be easily exchanged but can not find any information on this. Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't have thought of it, yours being a pretty unusual situation, but here is what I'm guessing is happening. Both remotes think the equipment is off. You turn it on with your remote, but of course your wife's remote still thinks the equipment is off. So when she presses the Off button hers "knows" that everything is already off and it doesn't need to do anything.

IF your components ALL have DISCRETE on and off codes, rather than a toggle, and IF you go back and tell the software that ALL of your components have DISCRETE power codes then maybe you could do what you want. It might be easier to just cuddle more and keep the remote between you - they do call it a "Harmony" remote. :)

craig_wagner
03-25-08, 12:46 PM
Yes it does. I have the 880 set up with most of the regular controller buttons - X, B, A, X, Xbox 360 guide - takes me to the dashboard, etc.

I'm using my 880 with my 360 as well, but I don't recall seeing a Guide command in Harmony's database. I'll check again when I get home, but did you have to do anything special to make it available?

joe221
03-25-08, 12:58 PM
I'm using my 880 with my 360 as well, but I don't recall seeing a Guide command in Harmony's database. I'll check again when I get home, but did you have to do anything special to make it available?

It's there!

Yuss
03-26-08, 07:21 AM
I'm using my 880 with my 360 as well, but I don't recall seeing a Guide command in Harmony's database. I'll check again when I get home, but did you have to do anything special to make it available?

I also added "Microsoft MediaCenter" (or something similar) as one of my devices. Some of the commands may have come from there. If you don't get it working, write back and I'll check what the exact device is.

Florida
03-27-08, 08:16 AM
Larry -

I do not believe that you are going to be able to do what you describe. The remote that turned on the activity ran the sequence to turn the equipment on. The second remote doesn't know a thing about what the first remote did so pushing "off" for that activity on the second remote does nothing.

I run two 890's but I use one for zone one activities and the second one for zone 2/3 activities.

I recently bought two 880's using the coupon from Amazon. My wife and I each use one on the same tv/avr/dvd setup. I setup one account on the Logitech website and setup one of the remotes and then simply updated the other remote with the same setup. It seems if I "Watch TV" with one remote that I can not turn off the system with the other but rather can only turn off with the one that originally turned on the equipment. Any ideas so that these two remotes work independently on the same equipment? I am sure this will be easily exchanged but can not find any information on this. Thanks in advance.

Maverickster2
03-27-08, 09:10 AM
What do you guys do to compensate for the lack of Picture and Sound Buttons to make audio/video adjustments on the fly?

Did you just reprogram the entire device menus?

Depending on the activity, I have separate "pages" of softkeys for this. So, for instance, for my "Watch DVD" and "Watch DirecTV" activities, my last two pages of softkeys are, in order, dedicated to TV adjustment and Receiver adjustment; for audio only activities, I left out the TV adjustment page; I have no video only activities, so the Receiver adjustment page is in every activity. It's nice to have these available if you want them since I find it more convenient than going into "Devices", and tucking them away as the last two pages means I never really have to see them unless I want to. The trick is to fit all of the buttons you'll need into 8 slots; for my reciever, this wasn't so tough, since I have discrete codes for surround modes, so my "Receiver page" consists of Surround Mode, Surround Up, Surround Down, Stereo, Dolby, DTS, Neo6, and Logic7; for my "TV page" this was a little tougher, but after some trial and error, I got it down to 8 keys that do everything I need it to.

Good Luck!

--Mav

Florida
03-27-08, 06:46 PM
I have two Harmony 890 (non-Pro) remotes and two RF base stations. I have a fairly complex arrangement to make that work using 3.5mm splitters and dedicated ports.

Having read most of this forum I have a question about the 890PRO. If the same programming interface is used, how does the 890 Pro manage multiple remotes? I assume that in my current setup the remote update is pairing the remote with the RF base station and that is why two remotes cannot access it at the same time. That being said, why isnt the 890 PRO doing that too? Is the difference possibly in the base station for the Pro versus the one that comes with the non-Pro?

bfd
03-28-08, 12:15 AM
Can I add my Cambridge Soundworks P500 subwoofer as a device? I didn't any appropriate category during setup.

Doesn't really matter which category you use, I used amplifier so it'd be different from the receiver-amp. The next step is where you'd input the brand/model#, etc. Works fine on my Velodyne. Haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you can rename the category once you've set it up.

ToddUGA
03-28-08, 09:17 AM
Received my 880 last week. Compared to my old 520 it's definitely a better remote. And for $99 it feels like a steal.

TorinoCobra
03-29-08, 05:35 PM
My wife and I each use one on the same tv/avr/dvd setup...Any ideas so that these two remotes work independently on the same equipment?Have you tried covering the front of one 880 with your hand and selecting the same activity with both remotes? Then they should both be "synchronized" to the same activity. I have three remotes (one 880 and two Dish RF remotes that I use for my system, and I sometimes need to do this to synchronize the 880.

supwdatt
03-30-08, 09:51 AM
I need some help, must be missing something. Within an activity, using an "additional button," I put my rcvr to "sleep", but the remote doesn't exit the activity even though the rcvr is now off after the countdown. That leaves me in the current activity when I pick up the remote and want to enter a new activity at a later time/date. Any ideas on how to reset to main menu within the activity after the sleep command? Thx

userb
03-30-08, 10:38 AM
I need some help, must be missing something. Within an activity, using an "additional button," I put my rcvr to "sleep", but the remote doesn't exit the activity even though the rcvr is now off after the countdown. That leaves me in the current activity when I pick up the remote and want to enter a new activity at a later time/date. Any ideas on how to reset to main menu within the activity after the sleep command? Thx

You can just press the Activities button to choose a different activity, but I don't think there is any way for the remote to know that the receiver is now off. At some point you'll end up having to correct the state of the receiver somehow (probably easiest to do with the Help button).

bernie33
03-30-08, 02:23 PM
I need some help, must be missing something. Within an activity, using an "additional button," I put my rcvr to "sleep", but the remote doesn't exit the activity even though the rcvr is now off after the countdown. That leaves me in the current activity when I pick up the remote and want to enter a new activity at a later time/date. Any ideas on how to reset to main menu within the activity after the sleep command? Thx

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish when you put your receiver "to sleep". Most likely you do NOT want to use that button to put your receiver to sleep. That just confuses the Harmony. Simply press the "Off" button on the Harmony if you are through using your entertainment system, OR press the Activity button for the Activity that you are switching to. In either case the Harmony will turn off any unneeded equipment and turn on any necessary equipment. The Harmony will be aware of any equipment that is already on or off and won't change anything that doesn't need to be changed.

Until you press the Off button or another Activity button, the Harmony keeps assuming that you are still in the last Activity that you selected. And that is exactly what you want it to assume.

Hope that helps.
Bernie

supwdatt
03-30-08, 03:09 PM
Hmmm, guess I'm alone in going to "sleep" with the music on. I appreciate your help. Thanks anyway.

joe221
03-30-08, 03:43 PM
Hmmm, guess I'm alone in going to "sleep" with the music on. I appreciate your help. Thanks anyway.

When you wake up just press the off button on the Harmony and usually that syncs everything back. Then start again. I do that with my bedroom TV and sleep mode.

22benjamin22
03-30-08, 03:45 PM
After reading what and why you want to do that, I'd just make it a habit of hitting the off button before starting a new activity the day after.

The Remote has a smart state and thinks the receiver is still on. You may want to contact support to see if they have a timer function available. I haven't heard of anyone else wanting that though.

joe221
03-30-08, 04:23 PM
Great minds...
:cool:

userb
03-30-08, 04:33 PM
After reading what and why you want to do that, I'd just make it a habit of hitting the off button before starting a new activity the day after.

The Remote has a smart state and thinks the receiver is still on. You may want to contact support to see if they have a timer function available. I haven't heard of anyone else wanting that though.

That would work if the receiver has discrete on and off commands. If it only has power toggle, the state will still be wrong.

22benjamin22
03-30-08, 07:51 PM
That would work if the receiver has discrete on and off commands. If it only has power toggle, the state will still be wrong.

You could always point the remote into your hand when hitting off...

Great minds...
:cool:

Nice, missed that when I posted it - 2 minutes ;]

Fred Fixit
03-31-08, 09:59 PM
I am retired and pinching pennies, but trying to get good stuff. Like 42" 1080P at Costco for $899, 880 at Amazon for $99, Toshiba Laptop w 2 G RAM & 160 G HD and Vista for $499. Can surf web via laptop on coffee table. Want to keep ball game in little pic while surf web in big pic, etc.

Have not received the 880 yet but have read on line manual. Worried:confused: How well does the 880 handle PIC and POP? Anyone doing this?

bernie33
03-31-08, 10:13 PM
I am retired and pinching pennies, but trying to get good stuff. Like 42" 1080P at Costco for $899, 880 at Amazon for $99, Toshiba Laptop w 2 G RAM & 160 G HD and Vista for $499. Can surf web via laptop on coffee table. Want to keep ball game in little pic while surf web in big pic, etc.

Have not received the 880 yet but have read on line manual. Worried:confused: How well does the 880 handle PIC and POP? Anyone doing this?

PIC?
POP?

tokerblue
03-31-08, 10:29 PM
I am retired and pinching pennies, but trying to get good stuff. Like 42" 1080P at Costco for $899, 880 at Amazon for $99, Toshiba Laptop w 2 G RAM & 160 G HD and Vista for $499. Can surf web via laptop on coffee table. Want to keep ball game in little pic while surf web in big pic, etc.

Have not received the 880 yet but have read on line manual. Worried:confused: How well does the 880 handle PIC and POP? Anyone doing this?
- I'm guessing you mean Picture in Picture or Picture on Picture. The 880 will basically do anything your original remote will do. It may be as simple as mapping a PiP button in the LCD screen.

Fred Fixit
03-31-08, 10:37 PM
- I'm guessing you mean Picture in Picture or Picture on Picture. The 880 will basically do anything your original remote will do. It may be as simple as mapping a PiP button in the LCD screen.
Yeah and WHEW! Thanks. BTW, I meant to say PIP for picture IN picture and PAP for picture AND picture (side by side).
I'm really anxious to get my hands on the actual 880
fred (try to) fixit.

userb
04-01-08, 01:01 AM
FYI: I just learned this command for Comcast Motorola DCH boxes into my 890.



The DCH boxes have a button on the front panel to switch the output resolution (720p, 1080i). I know the method to change the resolution (press power and then menu). I wonder if their is any way using the remote (with a special code) to control the "button" on the DCH so I could change resolutions on the fly. This would be useful so I could feed my set the native resolution of the broadcast signal since my 1080p sect does a better job of converting 720p signals.

Through trial and error I found the code it is 00109. The way it works with the Comcast remote is press cable, then press and hold setup until the cable light on the remote blinks twice, then release the setup button, enter 994 on the keypad, then press setup again and release the setup button then enter 00109 after that press the key you want for this functionality - I chose the "help" key. If you did all of this correctly the cable select button on the remote should blink twice.

sluwx04
04-01-08, 03:12 PM
does anyone here have experience with a dual DVR setup with the 880? I am thinking about getting either the 880 or the Harmony One remote. They both look great!

jwciv
04-01-08, 03:18 PM
does anyone here have experience with a dual DVR setup with the 880? I am thinking about getting either the 880 or the Harmony One remote. They both look great!

one philips dsr7000 and one directv hr21 in the same cabinet - - different codes = no issues
if you'rer talking two of the same models, there is some info in this thread on how to handle that

sonydude1966
04-01-08, 07:13 PM
does anyone here have experience with a dual DVR setup with the 880? I am thinking about getting either the 880 or the Harmony One remote. They both look great!No experience with a dual DVR, but the 880 is on sale at Amazon for $99.65, using checkout code: GXWCVCLQ. Or, you can buy the Harmony One for $216.21, code doesn't work with that one.

rehaz1
04-02-08, 09:59 AM
What DVRs are you talking about? I have both 2 DirecTV Tivos in the same room and 2 DirecTV DRV HR20s in the same room and I can change the remote codes on both type of units and control both units with my 880s

Lord Nimon
04-02-08, 12:24 PM
I'm considering getting a Harmony 880, as my father-in-law has one and it works great for him. However, my projector takes about 20 seconds to turn on, and after it's on, I need to send it a couple additional commands to switch inputs. Is this something that can be easily handled by the 880? Ideally, I'd like to be able to do this:

1) press one button on the 880
2) put the 880 down on a table, so that I don't have to hold it while everything turns on
3) turn on the projector
4) turn on one or more other devices (depending on whether I want to watch a DVD, TiVo, whatever)
5) wait 20 seconds
6) switch the projector to the right input

Is the IR transmitter in the 880 powerful enough?

22benjamin22
04-02-08, 12:44 PM
I know you can program some delays, but in your case, I would create an activity that only had the projector in it, set it to always stay on while in other activities (but would still turn off when hitting the off button). Then create activities for the intended session (DVD/TiVo/etc). After 30 seconds with the first activity on (only turning on the projector), then I'd change activities so that all the other equipment would come on and the projector would change to the proper input selection.

SaltiDawg
04-02-08, 03:33 PM
... However, my projector takes about 20 seconds to turn on, and after it's on, I need to send it a couple additional commands to switch inputs. Is this something that can be easily handled by the 880? Ideally, I'd like to be able to do this:
...

Is the IR transmitter in the 880 powerful enough?

You certainly can set this up on your 880. Not sure what you mean by "powerful" but the programming is "powerful" enough to program in a 20000 ms Startup Delay for your projector before it would receive subsequent IR commands.

bawaji
04-02-08, 06:06 PM
I'm considering getting a Harmony 880, as my father-in-law has one and it works great for him. However, my projector takes about 20 seconds to turn on, and after it's on, I need to send it a couple additional commands to switch inputs. Is this something that can be easily handled by the 880? Ideally, I'd like to be able to do this:

1) press one button on the 880
2) put the 880 down on a table, so that I don't have to hold it while everything turns on
3) turn on the projector
4) turn on one or more other devices (depending on whether I want to watch a DVD, TiVo, whatever)
5) wait 20 seconds
6) switch the projector to the right input

Is the IR transmitter in the 880 powerful enough?
If the projector is set up for the 880 on Logitech's site, the proper delays should already be programmed in for the device and you should not have to make any changes while setting it up for use in an activity. My TV was set up with the proper delay on the 880.

As far as the power of 880's IR transmitter is concerned, I am able to control devices from 15 feet away without any problem.

Speedskater
04-02-08, 10:10 PM
I am retired and pinching pennies, but trying to get good stuff. Like 42" 1080P at Costco for $899, 880 at Amazon for $99, Toshiba Laptop w 2 G RAM & 160 G HD and Vista for $499. Can surf web via laptop on coffee table. Want to keep ball game in little pic while surf web in big pic, etc.
Have not received the 880 yet but have read on line manual. Worried:confused: How well does the 880 handle PIC and POP? Anyone doing this?

My 880 doesn't do PiP on the Samsung HRL DLP well at all. The remote shows the commands, but most don't work.

SaltiDawg
04-03-08, 08:34 AM
My 880 doesn't do PiP on the Samsung HRL DLP well at all. The remote shows the commands, but most don't work.
Doesn't sound like there is anything whatsoever wrong with the remote. It would appear the data base is not accurate for those commands. Not a rare occurrence.

Simply learn the appropriate commands for PIP. It'll work just fine.

beekeeper
04-03-08, 09:29 AM
If the projector is set up for the 880 on Logitech's site, the proper delays should already be programmed in for the device and you should not have to make any changes while setting it up for use in an activity. My TV was set up with the proper delay on the 880.

As far as the power of 880's IR transmitter is concerned, I am able to control devices from 15 feet away without any problem.

Might not happen, but I found that it is easier just to add additional buttons in the LCD display to change inputs. My Optoma goes to the last setting which is fine since that is where I normally view, but when I shift to another input, it is easy to just push one button while the projector is warming up. As soon as I see it is setting up for say component, I shift it to Svideo and no problem. I also found that aspect gets changed a lot so just us a button for that.

Sometimes it is easier to have the additional button option rather than have the 880 do it. Also, you can set up your LCD display to have the same functions on each page for each activity involving the projector. Gives nice flexibility and you can make changes in the dark since they are in the same place.

bigfatcow
04-03-08, 10:07 AM
I have just got this remote 2 days ago and I'm wondering about the way the remote cycles through the video inputs. TV is Sony KDL52XBR3. If I'm on "video 2" and I want to go to "video 8", using the original Sony remote, I would have to go to "Menu", "External Inputs", then scroll to "video 8" and press OK.

However with the 880, it automatically jumps to video 8 from video 2 when I select that activity without going to the tv menu, external input, etc. I guess the TV has discrete input buttons. If so, how come my original TV remote don't have different buttons for different inputs??

Does it do any harm to the TV if the 880 just jumps to a certain video input?

Apollo5
04-03-08, 11:38 AM
5) wait 20 seconds

I wouldn't program a 20 second delay into the Harmony unless you could set it down on a table with a line-of-sight to the projector--otherwise, you'd have to be holding the remote and pointing it for 20 seconds.

I like the idea that was suggested to simply program an extra button on the Harmony for the correct input so you can push it when it's ready.

Apollo5
04-03-08, 11:40 AM
Does it do any harm to the TV if the 880 just jumps to a certain video input?
A lot of devices have extra commands that aren't keyed on the original remote. The Harmony lets you access them and there is no harm at all :).

bernie33
04-03-08, 01:35 PM
I have just got this remote 2 days ago and I'm wondering about the way the remote cycles through the video inputs. TV is Sony KDL52XBR3. If I'm on "video 2" and I want to go to "video 8", using the original Sony remote, I would have to go to "Menu", "External Inputs", then scroll to "video 8" and press OK.

However with the 880, it automatically jumps to video 8 from video 2 when I select that activity without going to the tv menu, external input, etc. I guess the TV has discrete input buttons. If so, how come my original TV remote don't have different buttons for different inputs??

Does it do any harm to the TV if the 880 just jumps to a certain video input?
If your original remote had a button for each of the eight video inputs you'd have to have eight more buttons on the remote. That would be a pretty intimidating remote for most users. With the 880, during setup you tell it which input to use and the user doesn't even have to think about it. That is why it is so useful.

sluwx04
04-03-08, 09:10 PM
What DVRs are you talking about? I have both 2 DirecTV Tivos in the same room and 2 DirecTV DRV HR20s in the same room and I can change the remote codes on both type of units and control both units with my 880s

Please disregard this post...I found the answer to my question.


I hope this isn't too confusing.

I have Dish Network DVR. I'm not really sure how the DVR thing works though. I have one TV in the living room and 1 TV in the bedroom. There is only one receiver which is in the living room. There are two separate remotes though...one in the living room and one in the bedroom (one remote for the living room TV and another remote for the bedroom TV). However, both remotes can control the receiver from anywhere in the house. I totally don't know much about setting this stuff up but could it be that there would be 2 different codes involved with both remotes or something?

sluwx04
04-03-08, 09:35 PM
the 880 is on sale at Amazon for $99.65, using checkout code: GXWCVCLQ. Or, you can buy the Harmony One for $216.21, code doesn't work with that one.

Says code not valid anymore :(

tjk
04-04-08, 01:13 AM
As far as I know, the 890 isn't really designed for multi-room use (apart from having multiple Activities as you mentioned, but they can't be nested). You need the 890 PRO for multi-room use like you are trying to do.

890 Pro? I didn't even know there was a difference - it's not even on Harmony's website!! Worse, the box for the 890 shows, very clearly, a remote that has an activity screen labeled "Living Room Activities" right on the remote. That's essentially false advertising.

I bought the remote months ago, thinking it could be used as a whole house remote. I finally got around to trying to program it, and now I do a search here and find out that basically it's a one-room remote, and needs to be rigged to control functions in different rooms.

I'm so pissed off right now. We'll see how good Harmony and Amazon's customer service is, because I do not want this remote - I want the remote I bought to do what the remote on the box shows it can do. I'll never buy a Harmony product again - to not even have the 890 pro on their website (which is where I went when I looked to buy the product) is ridiculous.

Gary J
04-04-08, 07:50 AM
Living Room Activities would equal Whole House Activities in a one room house.

rehaz1
04-04-08, 10:02 AM
Please disregard this post...I found the answer to my question.


I hope this isn't too confusing.

I have Dish Network DVR. I'm not really sure how the DVR thing works though. I have one TV in the living room and 1 TV in the bedroom. There is only one receiver which is in the living room. There are two separate remotes though...one in the living room and one in the bedroom (one remote for the living room TV and another remote for the bedroom TV). However, both remotes can control the receiver from anywhere in the house. I totally don't know much about setting this stuff up but could it be that there would be 2 different codes involved with both remotes or something?

The Dish Network DVR has 2 remotes one is controlled by IR which you use in the room with the receiver the second remote is UHF and you use in another room the control the receiver located in a different the Harmony remotes can control IR only and can not control UHF

SaltiDawg
04-04-08, 10:27 AM
The Dish Network DVR has 2 remotes one is controlled by IR which you use in the room with the receiver the second remote is UHF and you use in another room the control the receiver located in a different the Harmony remotes can control IR only and can not control UHF
sluwx04 indicated he can control with either Dish remote from anywhere in the house. Contrary to your assertion, TV 1 can be controlled by UHF. Sounds like this is what sluwx04 is doing.

tjk
04-04-08, 11:36 AM
Living Room Activities would equal Whole House Activities in a one room house.


The 890 Pro is designed to control more than one room - and the activity menu has an activity button that says "change rooms." This is what I was looking for in my remote - it's the most important function to me as I have three zones and don't want to have to toggle through activity screens with truncated activity descriptions.

The fact that I thought 890 could do this (as pictured on the box) is why I went with it instead of an MX-950 from URC.

Speedskater
04-04-08, 04:46 PM
Doesn't sound like there is anything whatsoever wrong with the remote. It would appear the data base is not accurate for those commands. Not a rare occurrence.
Simply learn the appropriate commands for PIP. It'll work just fine.
What good is a "data base" if it's wrong?
I have lost track of the number of hours that I spent trying work-a-rounds.

Gary J
04-04-08, 06:27 PM
What good is a "data base" if it's wrong?


Let me guess - you have never worked programming a database for one second in your life. Ever. :p

SaltiDawg
04-04-08, 07:00 PM
What good is a "data base" if it's wrong?
I have lost track of the number of hours that I spent trying work-a-rounds.
:rolleyes:

DavidPotter
04-05-08, 07:22 PM
I just purchased the Monoprice HDX-401E HDMI Switcher. Has anyone else settled on what values to use for the delays? I'm testing out 500, 0, 200, 200 for the delays, but if someone else has experience with this I'd love to streamline this process.

Thanks,
David

rehaz1
04-06-08, 10:26 AM
What type of delay are you trying to change?

DavidPotter
04-06-08, 09:28 PM
What type of delay are you trying to change?

I'm talking about the four delays you can set for devices:

Power on delay
Input change delay
Inter-key delay
Inter-device delay (something like that)

rehaz1
04-07-08, 01:26 PM
I'm talking about the four delays you can set for devices:

Power on delay
Input change delay
Inter-key delay
Inter-device delay (something like that)

It is hard to say what delay timing works best as everyone has different combinations of equipment what delay works best for one device and with the same model will work differently for someone who has a different cable box or has a satellite receiver instead of a cable box but has the same TV and model
The delays may be different for the TV in this situation What exactly are the problems you are having?

DavidPotter
04-07-08, 03:03 PM
It is hard to say what delay timing works best as everyone has different combinations of equipment what delay works best for one device and with the same model will work differently for someone who has a different cable box or has a satellite receiver instead of a cable box but has the same TV and model
The delays may be different for the TV in this situation What exactly are the problems you are having?
I'm specifically talking about the delays for the Monoprice HDX-401E HDMI Switcher. That's what I asked in my original post. The set of components should not make any difference for the delays used for a particular device. For example, it shouldn't matter which TV I use when setting the delays on a particular model of AV receiver, DVD player, etc.

What would be useful is if people posted the delays they are using for each device. I guess I'll start, but I'll do it on a separate reply.

DavidPotter
04-07-08, 03:46 PM
I created a new thread for posting delay settings. This thread is getting way too long. You can find the thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016794

PaulD233
04-08-08, 12:02 PM
Well, I tried a search within this thread and didn't find my answer, so here goes. I have the 880, obviously, and have programmed in Favorite channels via the setup on my computer, I then update the remote. However, when I'm watching TV and push the Favorites button, nothing happens! My understanding was that these favorites and their icons are saved onto the remote for quick channel changing regardless of what type of setup you actually have. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks all.

joe221
04-08-08, 12:37 PM
Well, I tried a search within this thread and didn't find my answer, so here goes. I have the 880, obviously, and have programmed in Favorite channels via the setup on my computer, I then update the remote. However, when I'm watching TV and push the Favorites button, nothing happens! My understanding was that these favorites and their icons are saved onto the remote for quick channel changing regardless of what type of setup you actually have. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks all.

There is no "Favorites" button, it's labeled "Media". Is that what you're pressing?

PaulD233
04-08-08, 12:41 PM
There is no "Favorites" button, it's labeled "Media". Is that what you're pressing?

Could be my problem. I swear there's a button on my remote called Favs, which I assumed was favorites button. But if it's actually under Media, I'll have to double check when I get home. Thanks

bennyyboy
04-08-08, 12:59 PM
Could be my problem. I swear there's a button on my remote called Favs, which I assumed was favorites button. But if it's actually under Media, I'll have to double check when I get home. Thanks

There is a "Favorites" button but its purpose is to flip through the favorites you can program on your TV or set top box, not those setup with the program for the Harmony 880.

joe221
04-08-08, 01:42 PM
There is a "Favorites" button but its purpose is to flip through the favorites you can program on your TV or set top box, not those setup with the program for the Harmony 880.

There's a hard button marked Favorites? On the 880? :confused:

PaulD233
04-08-08, 02:09 PM
There is a "Favorites" button but its purpose is to flip through the favorites you can program on your TV or set top box, not those setup with the program for the Harmony 880.

So, when setting up favorites on my remote through the programming, where are those stored on my remote? How do I get to those? Is that this "media" button that was mentioned earlier?

DavidPotter
04-08-08, 02:10 PM
I've wondered what the Media button was for. Nothing happens when I press it.

PaulD233
04-08-08, 02:16 PM
I've wondered what the Media button was for. Nothing happens when I press it.

Have you gone through the programming on your computer to setup favorite channels on your remote?

DavidPotter
04-08-08, 02:19 PM
No. I never associated favorites with media - it's a very non-intuitive association. Add to that I use BeyondTV for watching programming so favorite channels don't really mean much to me. It's too bad the Media button isn't programmable like all the other buttons on the remote.

PaulD233
04-08-08, 02:23 PM
I guess I'll have to wait till I get home then and try troubleshooting this more at that time.

bennyyboy
04-08-08, 02:48 PM
So, when setting up favorites on my remote through the programming, where are those stored on my remote? How do I get to those? Is that this "media" button that was mentioned earlier?

Yes it is!

thewarm
04-09-08, 11:20 AM
You might find this quite a bit more convenient to use than the lame interface used by the Harmony software...
http://members.harmonyremote.com/EasyZapper/UserHome.asp
:)

PaulD233
04-09-08, 11:37 AM
Well, when I got home last night I used my remote and pressed Watch Live TV. Then I pressed the Media button, and sure enough, there was my channel favorites with the icons I had setup for them. Pretty cool stuff! Thanks for helping me out everyone.

bennyyboy
04-09-08, 12:55 PM
There's a hard button marked Favorites? On the 880? :confused:

I meant "soft button".

joe221
04-09-08, 01:22 PM
I meant "soft button".

got it, that would be the equivalent of the button on the original remote.

guiness4me
04-10-08, 08:16 AM
The promotional code listed in post 4322 no longer works on Amazon. Anyone have an updated code or a link to another site that has a similar deal.

saintalan
04-10-08, 02:55 PM
You might find this quite a bit more convenient to use than the lame interface used by the Harmony software...
http://members.harmonyremote.com/EasyZapper/UserHome.asp
:)

Isn't it the same thing?

With this link you have to connect your Remote to access software interface.

rehaz1
04-11-08, 11:21 AM
Isn't it the same thing?

With this link you have to connect your Remote to access software interface.

You don't have to have your remote connected to make changes to your configuration. When I was still working I would make changes to my configuration at work then when I came home I would start the software and update my remote

saintalan
04-11-08, 11:27 AM
You don't have to have your remote connected to make changes to your configuration. When I was still working I would make changes to my configuration at work then when I came home I would start the software and update my remote

I was assuming the OP didn't have a device and wanted to look. I just looked back and its not clear what he was referring to.

Alan

destefpr
04-16-08, 10:31 PM
Does anyone know how to have the Harmony Remote send PC keyboard commands to a device. I am currently running Slingbox software on a PC and want to control the PC with my Harmony remote.

Basically I need to send computer keyboard commands such as + (channel up), - (channel down), f (fast forward), etc.

Thanks in advance.

deevusone
04-19-08, 11:40 PM
I need help troubleshooting with this problem. The InputTV command doesn't work. The help button doesn't do anything either. I can't find any answers anywhere on this one.

bernie33
04-20-08, 10:40 PM
I need help troubleshooting with this problem. The InputTV command doesn't work. The help button doesn't do anything either. I can't find any answers anywhere on this one.
If you have the original remote you can simply Learn the command. The setup for the Harmony will guide you through the process.

Or, simply call Logitech Harmony support. They are excellent and will efficiently walk you through the steps.

deevusone
04-20-08, 11:17 PM
If you have the original remote you can simply Learn the command. The setup for the Harmony will guide you through the process.

Or, simply call Logitech Harmony support. They are excellent and will efficiently walk you through the steps.


Yeah I have the original remote, but learning the command doesn't set my input to TV. The original remote only has 1 input button which cycles through the inputs every time you press it. I don't have a problem setting up activities that are on other inputs, but it seems the input for tv doesn't work/respond.

22benjamin22
04-21-08, 12:06 AM
I would contact support as it sounds like your TV does support discreet input commands, but the the specific one you want to use isn't working. They should be able to get you fixed up.

Jamska
04-21-08, 01:08 AM
I'm trying to figure out how to turn off the Vista Media Center application when switching to a different activity on my Harmony 880. Does anyone know how to do this?

I could live with using a Sequence soft button but I can't get it to work. I have the sequence hit MyVideos then Greenbutton then DirectionUp then Enter then Enter. This should close MCE but it skips the DirectionUp command. Perhaps if it I added a delay?

Maverickster2
04-21-08, 10:03 AM
Yeah I have the original remote, but learning the command doesn't set my input to TV. The original remote only has 1 input button which cycles through the inputs every time you press it. I don't have a problem setting up activities that are on other inputs, but it seems the input for tv doesn't work/respond.

Just a stab in the dark, but if your TV is a Panasonic plasma, it might not work. I found that on my panny plasma (700U) remote, there are not discreet buttons for each input, but there are discreet codes in the Harmony database for *some* (read: most) of the inputs, but, sadly, not the InputTV (well, actually, there is a code there for InputTV, it just doesn't work).

I solved this by using discreet codes for all of the inputs for which they work (iirc, that was all of them except InputTV), and then for the activity which uses the InputTV, I added a sequence like TV/Video-ChannelUp-Select (which brings up the list of the inputs, pages up to the first one which is TV, and then selects it) to the startup sequence for that activity.

Hope that helps.

--Mav

Upgrade
04-21-08, 02:08 PM
I am just putting together my home theater and I have run into a problem that I hope this remote can solve:

When I want to play my Nintendo Wii, each time I turn my system on (TV, receiver, Wii) my TV defaults to its "Natural" setting which displays the Wii in 4:3 rather than 16:9 (which corresponds to the "Full" setting on my Toshiba Regza).

I realize that I will not be able to control the Wii with this remote, but what I do want to do is be able to hit the "Play Video Game" activity and have the TV setting switch automatically to "Full". Can I program this remote to do that? If so, I am buying it pronto, because this problem is very, very annoying. Thanks.

wdkerbow
04-21-08, 03:00 PM
I am just putting together my home theater and I have run into a problem that I hope this remote can solve:

When I want to play my Nintendo Wii, each time I turn my system on (TV, receiver, Wii) my TV defaults to its "Natural" setting which displays the Wii in 4:3 rather than 16:9 (which corresponds to the "Full" setting on my Toshiba Regza).

I realize that I will not be able to control the Wii with this remote, but what I do want to do is be able to hit the "Play Video Game" activity and have the TV setting switch automatically to "Full". Can I program this remote to do that? If so, I am buying it pronto, because this problem is very, very annoying. Thanks.

I do this exact thing with my Sony XBR1. I send the "Full" remote command to the TV at the end of the "Play Wii" activity. It works great.

Upgrade
04-21-08, 04:54 PM
Beautiful David. Thanks for the quick reply.

jayhawk11
04-25-08, 02:26 PM
Hey has anyone found a good deal on the 880's lately? I know Amazon had the sale last month, but I missed it by one day. Either an 880 or an amazing deal on the Harmony One would be sweet. Thanks!

sivartk
04-26-08, 11:56 PM
I just bought an LG BH200 (HD DVD / BD combo player) and the Harmony works great with everything but the play command. I have tried the database command and manually learned the command from the original remote.

The original remote works fine, but the Harmony command produces no response.

Any ideas?

bernie33
04-27-08, 02:44 AM
I just bought an LG BH200 (HD DVD / BD combo player) and the Harmony works great with everything but the play command. I have tried the database command and manually learned the command from the original remote.

The original remote works fine, but the Harmony command produces no response.

Any ideas?
Call Harmony support. They're very good and they'll get you going.

sivartk
04-27-08, 12:21 PM
Call Harmony support. They're very good and they'll get you going.

I learned the command in raw mode and it seemed to work. I did that after an email to support. :o

uscpsycho
04-27-08, 01:09 PM
I have a Mitsubishi WD-62725. I'm trying to set up an activity that will MUTE the TV. However, all the remote seems to be able to do is send a mute toggle command. So if the TV is already muted then the new activity will un-mute the TV.

Does anyone know if this TV has a discrete command for MUTE ON instead of toggle? And if so, how do I force the Harmony to send the ON command instead of the toggle command?

TIA

userb
04-27-08, 01:38 PM
I have a Mitsubishi WD-62725. I'm trying to set up an activity that will MUTE the TV. However, all the remote seems to be able to do is send a mute toggle command. So if the TV is already muted then the new activity will un-mute the TV.

Does anyone know if this TV has a discrete command for MUTE ON instead of toggle? And if so, how do I force the Harmony to send the ON command instead of the toggle command?

TIA

Does changing the volume turn off mute on your tv? If so, you could have your activity send a volume up or down command and then the mute command.

craig_wagner
04-27-08, 08:05 PM
I have a Mitsubishi WD-62725...

I used to have that exact same television. I just went through all the discrete codes I have for that unit (I had them all programmed into my Pronto and still have the .ccf file) and couldn't find discrete codes for mute. You might want to check the database at remotecentral.com as well just in case.

joe221
04-28-08, 11:00 AM
I have a Mitsubishi WD-62725. I'm trying to set up an activity that will MUTE the TV. However, all the remote seems to be able to do is send a mute toggle command. So if the TV is already muted then the new activity will un-mute the TV.

Does anyone know if this TV has a discrete command for MUTE ON instead of toggle? And if so, how do I force the Harmony to send the ON command instead of the toggle command?

TIA

My Mits will only toggle. I never investigated finding a raw code, if it exists.

jsmiddleton4
04-28-08, 11:15 AM
I had this similiar issue with am fm stations and designing presets under a radio activity. The way I managed it was to figure out what I wanted the default state to be and made sure that when exiting the activity I left the receiver in that default state. That way I knew what and how many times I had to toggle.

Just takes a few commands in the exit this activity section. That way you know exactly where you start when entering a new activity.

Beerstalker
04-28-08, 03:46 PM
Does changing the volume turn off mute on your tv? If so, you could have your activity send a volume up or down command and then the mute command.


This is what I have to do on my Hitachi TV. I send a volume up command which turns off mute if the TV is muted, then I send two mute commands as my tv has a soft mute, and then mute. It works pretty well.

I normally mute my TV for all activities except watching regular TV (I also have a TV with surround activity for the times I want to watch with surround). I originally thought I could just mute the TV whenever I left the Watch TV activity. This worked great for switching between activites, but then I realized that if the TV is muted when you turn it off, it would not be muted when it turned on. So if I ran my Watch a DVD activity when the TV was off, the TV speakers would not get muted. So now I just set my remote up to mute the TV at the beginning of all of my activites. It's a couple extra steps when I switch between activities that have the speakers muted, but it isn't that big of a deal (it sends volume up, then mutes twice). What would be cool is if Logitech could set up a smart state for mute, like they have for power. That way the remote would keep track of when the TV is muted or not.

tjk
04-29-08, 04:47 PM
Just starting to get into programming my 890 Pro. Was hoping someone could indulge me with a few questions:

- If I have devices that operate in more than one room, I assume I have to program the remote like the same device is actually in all of those rooms, even if it is physically only in one place? For example, my HD Tivo and HR20 are both in my basement, and both can be watched either in the basement or the family room via a shinybow component switcher. Do I need to make the Harmony think that the HD Tivo is in both the family room and the basement (thus, I need to add the device to each room?)

- How good is the RF extender at sending IR Codes? If it's mounted in my closet on the side of my equipment, will it be able to control stuff without the individual IR blasters? I realize that's impossible to answer for my specific situation, just wondering what people's experience has been.

I'm sure I'll have more questions, so thanks in advance. :)

eatonjb
04-29-08, 04:50 PM
I put the RF blaster on the door in the closet and it seemed to work ok without the little blasters. but i still put them on anyways for when the closet is open.

SaltiDawg
04-29-08, 05:03 PM
... Do I need to make the Harmony think that the HD Tivo is in both the family room and the basement (thus, I need to add the device to each room?)

- How good is the RF extender at sending IR Codes? ...
I suggest that you stop thinking "rooms" - think "activities."

If you have an Activity "Watch Tivo In The Basement" you would include your Tivo in that activity. If you have another activity "Watch Tivo in the Living Room" you would also include the Tivo in that activity. When I am not familiar with the switcher you said you used, but if it is IR controlled you would also include the switcher in both activities.

As far as the IR blaster in the RF Extender, I have found it to be very robust.

tjk
04-29-08, 05:36 PM
I suggest that you stop thinking "rooms" - think "activities."

If you have an Activity "Watch Tivo In The Basement" you would include your Tivo in that activity. If you have another activity "Watch Tivo in the Living Room" you would also include the Tivo in that activity. When I am not familiar with the switcher you said you used, but if it is IR controlled you would also include the switcher in both activities.


What seems odd to me about the 890 Pro is that despite being able to assign 8 different rooms, it appears you cannot have the same named activity in different rooms. So my basement watch Tivo can be called "watch Tivo" but my watch tivo activity in the family room has to have a different name, maybe "wtch Tivo."

I realize the 890 non-pro version can do this as well - but I like the sub-menus the 890 pro offers. Instead of scrolling through pages of activities, I find it easier to select a room and have all the activities associated with that room or zone on one page.

I do think, however, that it would be a lot easier to not have to designate rooms for your equipment. Shouldn't the 890 Pro offer that? Once you set up your rooms or zones, it would seem to me you should be able to map any device to any activity in that room without going through the motions of actually adding each device to each room or zone. But the way it works, at least at my first glance, is I must first add the Tivo to both the family room and the basement, otherwise the remote doesn't understand how the "watch Tivo" activity in the family room sub-menu can work when I haven't assigned the Tivo specifically to the family room. It seems a bit counterintuitive. Maybe I'm missing something, like it needs to be set up this way in case your equipment actually is in different rooms and you're using multiple RF extenders?

tjk
04-30-08, 01:36 AM
Biggest issue now is I cannot get the RF extender to work. I removed it from the remote, and it confirmed it was removed. then when I select "Connect to RF Extender", i get a message on the next screen that an RF Extender is already added. How? I just removed it.

When I first set up with IR, everything was fine. But when I switched devices to RF, I get nothing. I'm in the same room with the RF extender, and I even held the RF extender right next to the components. Still nothing.

Anyone have a suggestion? This certainly is not easy so far.

tjk
04-30-08, 01:35 PM
Just got off with tech support, and they walked me through a 28-step process to link the remote with the extender. Said it will take me about 45 minutes when I get home tonight, but they assured me it will work.

Anyone have experience with this?

tjk
05-01-08, 12:18 PM
I made it all the way through the 28 steps, and the RF station still doesn't work. Can someone chime in - i.e.:

- Did you have trouble linking the RF station;
- What is supposed to happen when the RF is linked properly (does anything on the RF extender light up - I assume the circle under the "RF" turns red?
- What should the status light do (is it on or off when linked properly);
- Do you ever need to hit the connect button?

Thanks.

joe221
05-01-08, 02:19 PM
Just starting to get into programming my 890 Pro. Was hoping someone could indulge me with a few questions:

- If I have devices that operate in more than one room, I assume I have to program the remote like the same device is actually in all of those rooms, even if it is physically only in one place? For example, my HD Tivo and HR20 are both in my basement, and both can be watched either in the basement or the family room via a shinybow component switcher. Do I need to make the Harmony think that the HD Tivo is in both the family room and the basement (thus, I need to add the device to each room?)

- How good is the RF extender at sending IR Codes? If it's mounted in my closet on the side of my equipment, will it be able to control stuff without the individual IR blasters? I realize that's impossible to answer for my specific situation, just wondering what people's experience has been.

I'm sure I'll have more questions, so thanks in advance. :)

I think you'll be better served by going one level up in the forum. Your questions seem RF based and the 880 isn't. I didn't find an "official" 890 thread but a lot of 890 questions in the top level. Maybe I'm wrong, but as an 880 owner I can't answer anything about RF and think you're in the wrong area. Now, if you want favorites or general issues they work here.

joe221
05-01-08, 02:21 PM
I want to also post that my replacement "magnetic" base has started to exhibit bad charging issues now that it's a few months old. :( Wound up with a dead 880 when it didn't charge and hadn't realized it.

JayMan007
05-01-08, 03:04 PM
I want to also post that my replacement "magnetic" base has started to exhibit bad charging issues now that it's a few months old. :( Wound up with a dead 880 when it didn't charge and hadn't realized it.

Had the same issue with an 890... called tech support, and they recommended using a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the remote... I did that, and it now makes great contact and charges wonderfully.

JayMan007
05-01-08, 03:24 PM
I made it all the way through the 28 steps, and the RF station still doesn't work. Can someone chime in - i.e.:

1- Did you have trouble linking the RF station;
2- What is supposed to happen when the RF is linked properly (does anything on the RF extender light up - I assume the circle under the "RF" turns red?
3- What should the status light do (is it on or off when linked properly);
4- Do you ever need to hit the connect button?

Thanks.
1- No problem. you can force a link by using the system options on the remote. I think you only have that option when its not linked.
2- I only have the power indicator on when idle... The RF will light when it receives an RF command.
3- Status will light when sending IR command.
4- you use that when linking to remote... under system options on remote.

When I set mine up, I configured everything to work by IR, nothing using RF. Once I had it the way I wanted, I moved devices from IR to RF.

Also make sure you are updating the RF extender (without power) and the Remote via USB... kind of a pain when the RF is already in place.

joe221
05-01-08, 04:22 PM
Had the same issue with an 890... called tech support, and they recommended using a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the remote... I did that, and it now makes great contact and charges wonderfully.

That's what I did with the original. Just sad after thinking it was fixed...it pulls me back in! ;)

tjk
05-01-08, 04:51 PM
1- No problem. you can force a link by using the system options on the remote. I think you only have that option when its not linked.
2- I only have the power indicator on when idle... The RF will light when it receives an RF command.
3- Status will light when sending IR command.
4- you use that when linking to remote... under system options on remote.

When I set mine up, I configured everything to work by IR, nothing using RF. Once I had it the way I wanted, I moved devices from IR to RF.

Also make sure you are updating the RF extender (without power) and the Remote via USB... kind of a pain when the RF is already in place.

1 - My problem is, I remove the rf extender, then when I go back to add it under system options, it says I already have an RF extender linked.
2. thank you
3. thanks again
4. Tried everything, can't get the RF commands to work.

I too had everything set up via IR, and everything was good, then when I made the change to RF, I got nothing. I have updated both units - never with the RF base plugged into the wall.

My problem is, my remote says I'm linked, the "my remote" section of the website says I'm linked, but I cannot get the extender to receive an RF command. I see no lights on the extender (other than the power light), and I'm even holding the extender right up to the remote sensor on my components. Still get nothing. This remote will be useless to me without RF capabilities, as most of my equipment is in a closet. Looks like one more call to tech support.

tjk
05-01-08, 04:51 PM
I think you'll be better served by going one level up in the forum. Your questions seem RF based and the 880 isn't. I didn't find an "official" 890 thread but a lot of 890 questions in the top level. Maybe I'm wrong, but as an 880 owner I can't answer anything about RF and think you're in the wrong area. Now, if you want favorites or general issues they work here.

What's one level up?

joe221
05-02-08, 12:04 PM
What's one level up?
The Remote Forum? More general area to post. ie start a specific thread to the issue. also, Why isn't there an "Official" 890 thread?? Maybe 890/890 Pro thread?? Seems like a good idea. :confused:

tjk
05-02-08, 01:16 PM
The Remote Forum? More general area to post. ie start a specific thread to the issue. also, Why isn't there an "Official" 890 thread?? Maybe 890/890 Pro thread?? Seems like a good idea. :confused:

It would be a good idea, but there really isn't any significant difference between the 880 and 890 (except, of course, the RF capability) and only minor differences with the Pro Versions. I think most questions apply to all 4 models, speaking of which.....

I did finally manage to link the RF extender, without calling customer service. I'm not even sure what worked, so I hope I don't have to do it again, but basically I removed it from my on-line profile, added it as an RF device on the remote, then added back to the on-line profile. Whatever happened, it now works, and I'm impressed with the signal the RF extender sends out. I was able to mount it on the side of the closet without any issues.

Now I have some more generic questions I was hoping to get some help on. Anybody who could resond to anything, it would be much appreciated. I'm obviously new to this...

1. How do folks with an HR10-250 instruct the remote to turn it off? I had it send a command that went Directv button=>channel down=>channel down (to ensure it gets to standby) then select (to turn off). It seems to get to the standby on the D* screen, but doesn't turn off. Do I need to add some sort of delay?

2. This probably doesn't have a solution, but I have a Tivo and an HR20 hooked up to a component switcher that feeds both my basement and my family room TV's. If someone is watching the Tivo upstairs, and then I hit the "watch Tivo" button for the basement, the Tivo goes through it's cycle, which in my case means it goes to the list of recorded programs. Is there any way for the remote to know that someone is already watching the Tivo upstairs, thus don't disturb the unit and interrupt what they're watching?

I guess a workaround for this could be to have my watch Tivo activities do nothing to the Tivo, and have my first LCD screen buttons be either Live TV or the D* button. Of course, this eliminates the one-button press.

3. Somewhat related to the above, I have a Denon 3910 DVD player - hooked up by HDMI to my basement TV, and component (via switcher) to the family room. Problem is, it can output component or HDMI, not both. So if I'm in the family room, and I hit watch DVD, and the DVD player is set to output HDMI, I'll get no picture - and will have to hit the HDMI select button four times to get it to HDMI/DVI off status. I can't have the "HDMI select" command sent 4 times - because if I were to watch the DVD two consecutive times in the family room, I wouldn't need the command sent the second time (it would create no picture). So far I've worked around this by putting the HDMI select button on the first LCD screen, but was wondering if there was a better solution. Obviously, without 2-way communication, there are limitations.

4. On my Tivo, when I hit the down or up buttons on the navigation wheel, it moves two places. I assume I need to set a shorter time for the command in the device setup?

5. Similarly, on my watch DVD function, the 3910 was not turning on until I went to the help screen to fix the problem. I increased the time from 1500 to 3000 ms, but this made it worse - now it doesn't even turn on via the help screen. I assume I need to take the command time in the opposite direction?

Again, I'm obviously new to this, so I'm just looking for some of the experts here to help me anywhere they can.

Thanks.

rehaz1
05-04-08, 07:44 PM
It would be a good idea, but there really isn't any significant difference between the 880 and 890 (except, of course, the RF capability) and only minor differences with the Pro Versions. I think most questions apply to all 4 models, speaking of which.....

I did finally manage to link the RF extender, without calling customer service. I'm not even sure what worked, so I hope I don't have to do it again, but basically I removed it from my on-line profile, added it as an RF device on the remote, then added back to the on-line profile. Whatever happened, it now works, and I'm impressed with the signal the RF extender sends out. I was able to mount it on the side of the closet without any issues.

Now I have some more generic questions I was hoping to get some help on. Anybody who could resond to anything, it would be much appreciated. I'm obviously new to this...

1. How do folks with an HR10-250 instruct the remote to turn it off? I had it send a command that went Directv button=>channel down=>channel down (to ensure it gets to standby) then select (to turn off). It seems to get to the standby on the D* screen, but doesn't turn off. Do I need to add some sort of delay?

2. This probably doesn't have a solution, but I have a Tivo and an HR20 hooked up to a component switcher that feeds both my basement and my family room TV's. If someone is watching the Tivo upstairs, and then I hit the "watch Tivo" button for the basement, the Tivo goes through it's cycle, which in my case means it goes to the list of recorded programs. Is there any way for the remote to know that someone is already watching the Tivo upstairs, thus don't disturb the unit and interrupt what they're watching?

I guess a workaround for this could be to have my watch Tivo activities do nothing to the Tivo, and have my first LCD screen buttons be either Live TV or the D* button. Of course, this eliminates the one-button press.

3. Somewhat related to the above, I have a Denon 3910 DVD player - hooked up by HDMI to my basement TV, and component (via switcher) to the family room. Problem is, it can output component or HDMI, not both. So if I'm in the family room, and I hit watch DVD, and the DVD player is set to output HDMI, I'll get no picture - and will have to hit the HDMI select button four times to get it to HDMI/DVI off status. I can't have the "HDMI select" command sent 4 times - because if I were to watch the DVD two consecutive times in the family room, I wouldn't need the command sent the second time (it would create no picture). So far I've worked around this by putting the HDMI select button on the first LCD screen, but was wondering if there was a better solution. Obviously, without 2-way communication, there are limitations.

4. On my Tivo, when I hit the down or up buttons on the navigation wheel, it moves two places. I assume I need to set a shorter time for the command in the device setup?

5. Similarly, on my watch DVD function, the 3910 was not turning on until I went to the help screen to fix the problem. I increased the time from 1500 to 3000 ms, but this made it worse - now it doesn't even turn on via the help screen. I assume I need to take the command time in the opposite direction?

Again, I'm obviously new to this, so I'm just looking for some of the experts here to help me anywhere they can.

Thanks.

I have an HR10-250 and under Power Options I said it has no Power button. Even in Standby mode it is never really powered off it is not buffering the tuners the hard drive still spins up and it will still record it just is not outputting to the TV for # 4 for your Device click on troubleshoot, select your HR10, click on device responds to commands to much or to little and then lower the repeats, and Update your remote

tokerblue
05-04-08, 10:24 PM
...
1. When I had the HR10-250, I could not find a "Stanby" command, so I had to use another universal remote to teach it the command. It's not on the original Tivo remote. This is a command that acts like a Power Toggle.

4. You have to change the number of repeats. The Tivo should respond well to 0 repeats.

5. This sounds like an inter-device delay problem, not a power delay problem. Try setting it to the default again. I always use a "Play" command to turn on DVD players. It might work for the Denon.

tjk
05-08-08, 11:37 AM
Thanks to everyone (esp. tokerblue and rehaz) for their help. Everything is working great so far.

crazed_z06
05-09-08, 02:44 PM
Just got this remote and having a problem..

I have all my components going through my AV receiver.. As such the TV is always on HDMI2.

When I set up my activities, it switches to HDMI2 when doing the activities. It's kind of an annoyance in that it brings up the menu on the TV. Is there away to tell the remote to just forget about the TV input?

Beerstalker
05-09-08, 04:16 PM
Find your TV device and click on options.

Click on Adjust Inputs

Leave it on whichever method is selected

Delete all of the inputs except HDMI2

Select None for the command and hit next.

Run through the quick check and select Done.

This should make it so the remote no longer switches inputs. I am not 100% sure on this though.

I did this using the internet software. The downloadable software might be slightly different but this should give you the idea of what you need to do.

userb
05-10-08, 06:55 AM
Amother way is to set up your activity as a generic activity. When you do that, you get the "I don't need to set the input on my XXXXX TV" option as a choice during setup.

crazed_z06
05-10-08, 09:30 AM
Amother way is to set up your activity as a generic activity. When you do that, you get the "I don't need to set the input on my XXXXX TV" option as a choice during setup.

That's what I ended up doing. Is there anyway to assign the little icons to generic activities?

rehaz1
05-10-08, 09:57 AM
That's what I ended up doing. Is there anyway to assign the little icons to generic activities?
No with a generic activity you don't get any Icons

enigmatut
05-27-08, 03:53 PM
In case someone's perusing this forum and thinking about picking up the Harmony 880, search for it at Amazon. I can't post URLs yet cuz I'm a newbie :-(

$158, but then $50 off with a MIR.

Just ordered mine!

Four-Eyes
05-28-08, 08:29 AM
I have the 880 and set it up with a much older version of the Harmony software. To simulate a macro, which was not available at that time, I did several dummy devices and used them together in an activity. Now I'm getting a new TV and will have to reprogram the remote. It use to be if I opened the Harmony software and went to activity then customize buttons, I could see all my devices in the activity and the dummy devices as well. Now if I go activity and customize buttons, I get standard buttons and additional buttons, but my dummy devices are not available on these screens. The dummy devices are listed in the activity itself. Does this mean if I update the remote, using the newer software, that I loose my ability to control my dummy devices and I'm forced to use the new macro function. The way I did it before was complex to set up but I was not limited to only five steps! Sorry about the length of the post, this stuff is difficult to discuss!

sluwx04
05-28-08, 10:14 AM
In case someone's perusing this forum and thinking about picking up the Harmony 880, search for it at Amazon. I can't post URLs yet cuz I'm a newbie :-(

$158, but then $50 off with a MIR.

Just ordered mine!


Here is the linky from amazon for that rebate:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/00/00/01/77/49/49/177494950.pdf

Beerstalker
05-28-08, 01:47 PM
I am not seeing the rebate on the amazon page for the 880.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Advanced-Universal-Control/dp/B00093IIRA******pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211996856&sr=8-1

joe221
05-28-08, 05:29 PM
I am not seeing the rebate on the amazon page for the 880.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Advanced-Universal-Control/dp/B00093IIRA******pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211996856&sr=8-1



Can you see it in the message right above yours??:confused:

strutter
05-29-08, 03:49 PM
I want to also post that my replacement "magnetic" base has started to exhibit bad charging issues now that it's a few months old. :( Wound up with a dead 880 when it didn't charge and hadn't realized it.

bad news indeed. i thought the magnet solved these issues. i haven't had any problems with my replacement.. its 4 months old now i think.

strutter
05-29-08, 04:06 PM
I have a Mitsubishi WD-62725. I'm trying to set up an activity that will MUTE the TV. However, all the remote seems to be able to do is send a mute toggle command. So if the TV is already muted then the new activity will un-mute the TV.

Does anyone know if this TV has a discrete command for MUTE ON instead of toggle? And if so, how do I force the Harmony to send the ON command instead of the toggle command?

TIA

I've been away from this thread for awhile. thought I'd revisit and see whats up with the 880.
I've read the posts following this one and saw their suggestions. I'd like to add another one that may work out better for you.
on my XBR2 i send the mute command at the start of the activity to mute the set. then another mute command when i leave the activity to unmute the set. with it set up like this your first mute command will turn off the sound, then when you leave the activity for another one it will send the mute command that turns on sound, then send one that turns off sound when the new activity starts. its so fast i hardly notice the volume off, on, off .

joe221
05-29-08, 06:49 PM
bad news indeed. i thought the magnet solved these issues. i haven't had any problems with my replacement.. its 4 months old now i think.

Cleaning the contacts got it back into the right. Just a bit worried as the "One" has exhibited no issues and the replacement 880 did.

offs3t
06-02-08, 10:02 AM
What looks to be an even better deal than the Amazon link listed above. Going through Buy.com you can get it for just under $93.

w.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=80605356&adid=17070&dcaid=17070

Chris

PS I can't post URLs yet, so hopefully nobody minds me trying to get around the filter for this. Just make sure to add back the leading ww's.

joe221
06-02-08, 11:04 AM
What looks to be an even better deal than the Amazon link listed above. Going through Buy.com you can get it for just under $93.

w.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=80605356&adid=17070&dcaid=17070

Chris

PS I can't post URLs yet, so hopefully nobody minds me trying to get around the filter for this. Just make sure to add back the leading ww's.

I can. Good deal!! (Tax in CA)

http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=80605356

mx6bfast
06-02-08, 11:45 AM
Has anyone else noticed a slower response between the 880 and D* HR20? I haven't made any changes to mine in months but I sometimes have to press the same button twice for it to actually work.

TheMoose
06-02-08, 02:22 PM
Has anyone else noticed a slower response between the 880 and D* HR20? I haven't made any changes to mine in months but I sometimes have to press the same button twice for it to actually work.

Are you on the national release firmware for the HR20 or did you force a newer version?
On the last national release the GUI was slow in reacting to remotes.
Try your DirecTV remote to see if it reacts any faster, if it does it may be your remote if not you may just have to wait until the next firmware upgrade to see an improvement.

mx6bfast
06-02-08, 03:48 PM
Are you on the national release firmware for the HR20 or did you force a newer version?
On the last national release the GUI was slow in reacting to remotes.
Try your DirecTV remote to see if it reacts any faster, if it does it may be your remote if not you may just have to wait until the next firmware upgrade to see an improvement.
I'm on NR.

I'll try to check it with the D* remote tonight. I have noticed since they put in the stupid ads the guide speed has been much slower.

vladimir7
06-02-08, 05:39 PM
Cleaning the contacts got it back into the right. Just a bit worried as the "One" has exhibited no issues and the replacement 880 did.

Hi I am having problems with the charger issue to. I tried cleaning the contacts with the eraser trick but it did not work.
I didn't read through this whole thread (150 pages....) so does anyone know of any other way? I bought this about 6 months ago.. and every month it got harder and harder to make contact and now it wont at all.
I mean it isn't that big of an issue if I can charge by the USB cable since I only need to recharge it like once a month.. but is annoying.

blazeblaze
06-02-08, 05:48 PM
Hi I am having problems with the charger issue to. I tried cleaning the contacts with the eraser trick but it did not work.
I didn't read through this whole thread (150 pages....) so does anyone know of any other way? I bought this about 6 months ago.. and every month it got harder and harder to make contact and now it wont at all.
I mean it isn't that big of an issue if I can charge by the USB cable since I only need to recharge it like once a month.. but is annoying.

Call Logitech support and have them replace the charger, since it should still be under warranty. I guess it is possible that it's something with the contacts on the remote itself, but I have seen many reports from users on this thread about a new charger fixing the issue you describe.

beekeeper
06-03-08, 07:08 AM
I bought a 550 as a second remote for my system. In the old days, with a 620, I cloned it in the 880 account. So when I called up my account it checked for which remote was attached. Made it easy to update either or both.

It seems that the new software version does not allow that but requires a new account.

I do see that you can call Logitech and they will walk you through the way to clone in the same account, but is that necessary? Can I do it myself without the call?

BruceS
06-03-08, 09:42 AM
Call Logitech support and have them replace the charger, since it should still be under warranty. I guess it is possible that it's something with the contacts on the remote itself, but I have seen many reports from users on this thread about a new charger fixing the issue you describe.
I have found a method that makes the charger work for me.

I keep a Q-Tip next to it. Whenever I want to charge the remote, I get some saliva on the Q-Tip and then use it to clean each of the contacts on both the remote and the charger.

vipermansa
06-03-08, 11:35 AM
Ok, I have the 880, directv HD-DVR - HR20-100, sony receiver and samsung 61' dlp tv.
I am having a problem getting the Harmony to turn my DTV/DVR on?????
Any help on what I shoudl do. I was farting around w/ it last night for an hour.......
Please help, trying to get the basics down first.
Thanks

Beerstalker
06-03-08, 02:45 PM
I don't have hte HR20 so I can't say for sure, but I do have the HR21 and it works fine. Go into the power settings for the receiver and tell it to use the PowerOn and PowerOff commands instead of PowerToggle. They work much better.

BruceS
06-04-08, 09:41 AM
Make sure the HR20-100 is set for IR control, not RF control.

audionewer
06-07-08, 11:12 AM
i want to know if i can put a shortcut key on 880 to play PowerDVd or not?

Beerstalker
06-09-08, 06:04 PM
The 880 can send out any kind of IR signal you want it to. The hard part is getting your computer set up to receive IR commands, and translate them into whatever you want the computer to do. It can be done, but this really isn't the place to talk about that. Go up tot eh Home Theater PC section and read around in there. They have lots of information about setting up remote control for PCs.

slamduncan
06-10-08, 07:11 AM
Hi all, I've had my 880 for a year or more and it was great with my old tv. I just got a SAMSUNG 67A750 and it controls things fine, but when I first go through the 'watch television' activity it takes about 20 seconds to do everthing and for the last 10 seconds of it everything is already on and set to the correct inputs etc. and I just can't use the remote for that time as it has the 'starting activity' screen and the indicator that it is sending commands even though nothing is happening.

If I switch to 'watch a dvd' it works fine.. and then if I switch back to 'watch television' it takes the 'correct' amount of time.

Hopefully someone can give some advice to correct this. My next step will be to elminate commands in the sequence (ie don't turn on the tv) and see if that goes faster so I can hopefully troubleshoot my way through it but I thought I'd ask here first.

Thanks !

Beerstalker
06-10-08, 12:44 PM
Check out this thread if you haven't already.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=623320

I can pretty much gaurantee that this is a Power On delay problem, and by reducing your power on delay you will be able to trim the start up time down.

Also, if you take the time to optimize all your delays please try to post it in this thread, so others can take advantage of your work.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016794

slamduncan
06-10-08, 12:53 PM
I had looked breifly in that thread and tried to search this one for answers.. I'll head there tonight and post whatever I figure out if this fixes my issues

sd

** EDIT **

the power on delay was set to 28000 ms... I changed it to 500 and all seems well.. I posted in the thread you pointed me to..

MANY THANKS !

*** EDIT2 ****

someone pointed this out to me in another thread..

while the 500 will work sort of, it's not long enough for it to select the correct source. you can't select the source until the initial info box at the top left goes off. i have mine set to 16000, which will switch the source of the activity immediately after the top box disapears, 15000, would only work sometimes, so far, 16000 everytime

rooster 45
06-14-08, 09:58 PM
can you hook up the harmony repeater to this remote or do you need the 890

Florida
06-15-08, 03:21 AM
can you hook up the harmony repeater to this remote or do you need the 890


You need the 890. The 880 is IR only.

mitchmiles
06-15-08, 12:36 PM
PS3 Intro Music.

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Hi All,

I've been using the IR2BT now for about a week along with my Harmony 880, the PS3, and the rest of my home theater equipment. When I power on the 880 to macro the "watch Blu-Ray" activity [PS3, Integra 7.8, Sony 46" LCD], everthing starts up OK, but when the PS3 comes on, the beginning music starts out about in the middle [like the first 1/2 is cut off].

Is there a way to re-order the events [if that is the correct solution] so that the entire PS music intro plays? It's not a real big deal, but just a little bit annoying when I'm demoing my system and the the PS3 intro music comes in late.

Thanks for your help.

Mitch

sivartk
06-15-08, 02:15 PM
Log into the software
Choose the activity (I.e. Play PS3)
Click on Customize
Click on Review the order in which devices are powered on.
Have your receiver come on first and the PS3 last.

mitchmiles
06-15-08, 09:50 PM
Thanks,

As you suggested, I rearranged the order in which the devices turn on in my "watch Blu-Ray" activity. Now I have the PS3 last after DTR 7.8 and Sony LCD. HOwever, I guess the Integra takes a while to turn on and get set to the correct input because I'm still getting part of the PS3 intro cut off.

Thanks,

Mitch

qthai99
06-19-08, 12:05 PM
I have a dilema. I have a Marantz SR8001 that has a discrete ir code to toggle HDMI Output 1 and HDMI Output 2. The Marantz remote does not have a specific button for this function. How can I create a button on the 880 for this toggle command. Here is the ir code from the Marantz website.
HDMI Output toggle 16 120 00
HDMI Out-1 16 120 01
HDMI Out-2 16 120 02

Thanks,

blazeblaze
06-19-08, 12:50 PM
I have a dilema. I have a Marantz SR8001 that has a discrete ir code to toggle HDMI Output 1 and HDMI Output 2. The Marantz remote does not have a specific button for this function. How can I create a button on the 880 for this toggle command. Here is the ir code from the Marantz website.
HDMI Output toggle 16 120 00
HDMI Out-1 16 120 01
HDMI Out-2 16 120 02

Thanks,

If they don't have it in their database already, I believe you can contact Harmony support and have them add these discrete commands for you.

qthai99
06-19-08, 01:44 PM
blazeblaze,

I just contacted Harmony support, they had the code, and they added it for me.

Thanks

steebo777
06-25-08, 08:02 AM
Hey guys, question for you. My 880 has been working perfectly for about a year and a half. Last week it began randomly rebooting on it's own. This could be while I'm holding it or if it is sitting on the table. It will go to a blue screen then go to the 'Testing' page as if I just plugged the battery in or something. After it goes through that it goes to the main menu and is fine. The problem is that it happens when I am in the middle of an activity, so I have to go through the process of starting the activity again on the remote.

Any thoughts? Should I just call Harmony support on this?

joe221
06-25-08, 10:58 AM
Hey guys, question for you. My 880 has been working perfectly for about a year and a half. Last week it began randomly rebooting on it's own. This could be while I'm holding it or if it is sitting on the table. It will go to a blue screen then go to the 'Testing' page as if I just plugged the battery in or something. After it goes through that it goes to the main menu and is fine. The problem is that it happens when I am in the middle of an activity, so I have to go through the process of starting the activity again on the remote.

Any thoughts? Should I just call Harmony support on this?

Other than cleaning the battery contacts I'd give them a call and see if they can help you.

TheGearbox
06-25-08, 03:06 PM
Has the 880 been discontinued? If so, what is the new version replacing it?

Thanks

joe221
06-25-08, 03:32 PM
Has the 880 been discontinued? If so, what is the new version replacing it?

Thanks

Not sure if it's official yet, but the One would be the replacement.

TheGearbox
06-25-08, 03:47 PM
Not sure if it's official yet, but the One would be the replacement.

Well it looks as if Amazon is about to filter them out, and they are currently selling for $115. I didn't plan on getting one until August, but maybe I should step up and get it while I still can. Plus $115 is a pretty good deal.

joe221
06-25-08, 04:10 PM
Well it looks as if Amazon is about to filter them out, and they are currently selling for $115. I didn't plan on getting one until August, but maybe I should step up and get it while I still can. Plus $115 is a pretty good deal.

A had it as low as $99.

TheGearbox
06-25-08, 04:16 PM
A had it as low as $99.

Dang! That's a heck of a deal for that remote.

joe221
06-25-08, 08:29 PM
Dang! That's a heck of a deal for that remote.

Yes it was. But if it's going to be cleared soon, ya never know. It was $150 -$50 coupon about a month ago or so. If the starting point is now 115 and the do a coupon... hmmmm.

TheGearbox
06-26-08, 08:57 AM
Where can I find one of these coupons you speak of?

joe221
06-26-08, 02:48 PM
Where can I find one of these coupons you speak of?

Theoretical. None right now. Keep an eye out on the bargain boards or put it in your wishlist and watch Amazon's Gold box.

jwciv
06-26-08, 02:51 PM
Theoretical. None right now. Keep an eye out on the bargain boards or put it in your wishlist and watch Amazon's Gold box.

or plug it into pricegrabber.com and set an alert

Stiege
06-28-08, 11:10 AM
The 880 setup doesn't offer input or control options for the xm tuner on my 2808ci. The Denon remote calls it SAT TU but I can't find the equivilent on the 880.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Jason

Gary J
06-28-08, 11:26 AM
Have the remote learn the IR codes you need.

miked2023
06-28-08, 11:36 AM
The 880 just doesn't want to control the + volume on my HK 635 properly or quickly at all. It seems to only happen when trying to increase the volume. The remote responds brilliantly to all other HK device controls so I just don't get it.

Example: I have to hold the + volume button for like 3-5 seconds sometimes much longer before it responds if at all. Then when it does respond it turns the volume down instead of up. Other times, it turns it up fine or just doesn't respond at all. If I grab the original HK remote, it works great so the receiver itself doesn't seem to be the issue. This has completely defeated the purpose of having this thing since I have to have 2 remotes out at all times. Anyone else experience something like this? Any advice would be great - thanks.

PS - I bought this model about two years ago.

blazeblaze
06-29-08, 02:49 AM
The 880 just doesn't want to control the + volume on my HK 635 properly or quickly at all. It seems to only happen when trying to increase the volume. The remote responds brilliantly to all other HK device controls so I just don't get it.

Have you tried relearning the commands that are giving you issues from the original remote? There should also be a RAW option when learning, I believe...so you might want to try both if the first one you try doesn't help.

r3v3nant
06-30-08, 01:05 AM
I have a strange Harmony 880 issue... I recently got an Olevia 747i LCD TV and plopped that sucker into the home theater setup.. I programmed the 880 for Syntax-Brillian 747i (that's the mfg name) and it works, but when I switch between activities it pans through each video input source until it gets the right one... like hitting source over and over until you get to the correct one.. now, this is cool and all that it works, but wow it takes a while go go through all 10 or so inputs when going from hdmi2 to hdmi1...

now, I know the remote is capable of directly selecting an input because I have created custom buttons which select the inputs I use, and I can go right to hdmi1 from hdmi2 without having to do the "next next next" method.. so why the remote wants to do this for it's macro sequence while switching activities is just strange.. my guess is that the TVs remote has no direct input selections (you have to hit source over and over to get the one you want) so this logic was applied to the harmony's macro... is there a way I can tell the remote to stop using that method and select the input directly? I know it's capable of doing this, but getting it use that method is a mystery to me. anyone else have a similar issue? how did you fix it?

blazeblaze
06-30-08, 01:12 AM
I believe what you are looking for is in the device setup (for your Olevia 747i)....maybe in the advanced settings, where you can tell the device to use discrete commands instead of scrolling through all the inputs. I haven't had to mess around with the Harmony setup in awhile, so I can't remember exactly where it is...but it should be in there.

r3v3nant
06-30-08, 02:17 AM
Hi - thanks for the reply. the TV is setup to receive the discrete commands for sure..

edit: ok, I think I fixed it.. kind of what you were saying I think.. the default setting of "the tv remote has one source button and has to scroll through the inputs" had to be changed to "the tv remote has specific input buttons" then I had to pick the commands for each input command the remote would issue out of the list.. it was pretty easy.

works perfect now. whew.

r3v3nant
06-30-08, 05:50 PM
FYI, I hate buy.com, but they have a good deal on the 880 running now..

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=201700756

it's about $120 shipped, dep on your location.. ymmv

rfrankli
07-01-08, 02:19 PM
The 880 just doesn't want to control the + volume on my HK 635 properly or quickly at all. It seems to only happen when trying to increase the volume. The remote responds brilliantly to all other HK device controls so I just don't get it.

Example: I have to hold the + volume button for like 3-5 seconds sometimes much longer before it responds if at all. Then when it does respond it turns the volume down instead of up. Other times, it turns it up fine or just doesn't respond at all. If I grab the original HK remote, it works great so the receiver itself doesn't seem to be the issue. This has completely defeated the purpose of having this thing since I have to have 2 remotes out at all times. Anyone else experience something like this? Any advice would be great - thanks.

PS - I bought this model about two years ago.

I am having the same problem with my 880. The volume up(+) button only works when I press it really hard. If I press it normally, it won't do anything. It is controlling my Onkyo receiver, and until reciently, it has controlled the volume fine. Mine is also about 2 years old as well. I have a friend who is having the same problem as well, and his is about the same age. I am wondering if it could be a manufacturing flaw or something, since the problem is starting to appear after about 2 years of use.

If you figure out a fix or end up contacting Logitech about it, let me know, as I would be interested in resolving the issue. This has become a major annoyance with my remote.

jerryray
07-03-08, 11:42 AM
My 880 was purchased last May.

Some of the buttons have to be pressed very hard to function.

Seems mechanic to me I have "cleaned" them, but they fail after a month or three.

Anyone know what Harmony charges for replacement.

I did call them and have a reference number but they never follow up or call back.

joe221
07-03-08, 12:53 PM
My 880 was purchased last May.

Some of the buttons have to be pressed very hard to function.

Seems mechanic to me I have "cleaned" them, but they fail after a month or three.

Anyone know what Harmony charges for replacement.

I did call them and have a reference number but they never follow up or call back.

Call and talk to someone don't leave a message.

protechie
07-04-08, 05:27 AM
Alright, so I start out in activity mode, and then I need to do something different so I switch to a device. For example, I press watch tv. Remotes turns on tv, stb, and receiver, controlling everything through the stb except for sound, which is controlled through the receiver. Then I want to change a setting on the tv, so I go to device and select tv. When I get done with this is there any way to switch back to the watch tv activity so that I am controlling everything together again without the remote forcing each device to go through the process of turning on again? Hopefully this makes sense. Whenever I do this I press watch tv and then have to deal with brief loss of picture and sound as everything sets up again, which is very annoying. Does anyone know how to do this correctly? Sorry if this has been answered before, I sifted through the thread but couldn't find anything.

bennyyboy
07-04-08, 08:13 AM
Alright, so I start out in activity mode, and then I need to do something different so I switch to a device. For example, I press watch tv. Remotes turns on tv, stb, and receiver, controlling everything through the stb except for sound, which is controlled through the receiver. Then I want to change a setting on the tv, so I go to device and select tv. When I get done with this is there any way to switch back to the watch tv activity so that I am controlling everything together again without the remote forcing each device to go through the process of turning on again? Hopefully this makes sense. Whenever I do this I press watch tv and then have to deal with brief loss of picture and sound as everything sets up again, which is very annoying. Does anyone know how to do this correctly? Sorry if this has been answered before, I sifted through the thread but couldn't find anything.

Very easy. You just have to press the "Activities" button twice and it will return back to your last activity.

videobored
07-04-08, 08:24 AM
I called Logitech about the common base recharge problem. Without too much drama, they agreed to send me a replacement. I thought they would just send a new base, but they sent a whole new remote. The thing is, they disabled the old remote. Now when I plug it in, the software tells me it has been disabled and cannot be updated. I like the old remote better. The buttons feel/work better. Has anyone been able to get around this and re-enable the remote after logitech kills it?
-vb

By the way, fixing the base charge problem is easy, just open the base and stick some paper under the contacts to lift them a little higher.. no sweat.

Gary J
07-04-08, 08:32 AM
Tell them to keep sending you free remotes and bases until you get one you like.

miked2023
07-04-08, 02:58 PM
Looks like the + volume button just plain broke from overuse and/or poor design. I re-assigned the mute button to + volume and it works just fine. not perfect, but at least it works!

The 880 just doesn't want to control the + volume on my HK 635 properly or quickly at all. It seems to only happen when trying to increase the volume. The remote responds brilliantly to all other HK device controls so I just don't get it.

Example: I have to hold the + volume button for like 3-5 seconds sometimes much longer before it responds if at all. Then when it does respond it turns the volume down instead of up. Other times, it turns it up fine or just doesn't respond at all. If I grab the original HK remote, it works great so the receiver itself doesn't seem to be the issue. This has completely defeated the purpose of having this thing since I have to have 2 remotes out at all times. Anyone else experience something like this? Any advice would be great - thanks.

PS - I bought this model about two years ago.

Georgia in MS
07-04-08, 05:14 PM
Buydig.com has this remote for $122 with free shipping. I have bought a few things from them. I recommend them if you are looking to buy this remote. I'm thinking about it myself, but I just cannot talk myself into spending that much money for a remote!

ProTuber
07-04-08, 10:19 PM
Alright, so I start out in activity mode, and then I need to do something different so I switch to a device. ... When I get done with this is there any way to switch back to the watch tv activity so that I am controlling everything together again without the remote forcing each device to go through the process of turning on again?Very easy. You just have to press the "Activities" button twice and it will return back to your last activity.Pressing "DEVICE" twice also has the same effect.

Yuss
07-05-08, 08:28 AM
Alright, so I start out in activity mode, and then I need to do something different so I switch to a device. For example, I press watch tv. Remotes turns on tv, stb, and receiver, controlling everything through the stb except for sound, which is controlled through the receiver. Then I want to change a setting on the tv, so I go to device and select tv. When I get done with this is there any way to switch back to the watch tv activity so that I am controlling everything together again without the remote forcing each device to go through the process of turning on again? Hopefully this makes sense. Whenever I do this I press watch tv and then have to deal with brief loss of picture and sound as everything sets up again, which is very annoying. Does anyone know how to do this correctly? Sorry if this has been answered before, I sifted through the thread but couldn't find anything.

As two other posters have said (hitting either the device or activity button twice will work) but have you considered adding those individual device buttons directly to the "soft buttons" (along the screen)? You have several pages of those to add stuff to. I almost never have to go to a device button these days.

ProTuber
07-05-08, 10:09 PM
As two other posters have said (hitting either the device or activity button twice will work) but have you considered adding those individual device buttons directly to the "soft buttons" (along the screen)? You have several pages of those to add stuff to. I almost never have to go to a device button these days.Excellent point! If you find yourself going to device mode to do the same tasks repeatedly, then you should definitely add these functions to the activity in question. Much more convenient.

Chase265
07-09-08, 09:23 PM
I tried searching but I wasnt abled to find an answer so I'll just ask it here.

Are there other options for replacement batteries besides the one from Logitech itself?

beekeeper
07-12-08, 06:14 AM
Looks like the + volume button just plain broke from overuse and/or poor design. I re-assigned the mute button to + volume and it works just fine. not perfect, but at least it works!

Check post 3128 for a fix that worked for some who tried it. I am right on the edge of trying it. My vol + and channel + buttons have been in the "push hard to work" category for quite some time.

TheMoose
07-12-08, 10:56 AM
I tried searching but I wasnt abled to find an answer so I'll just ask it here.

Are there other options for replacement batteries besides the one from Logitech itself?

I'd guess if you took your battery to a batteries plus store they could hook you up.

bernie33
07-13-08, 06:12 PM
Alright, so I start out in activity mode, and then I need to do something different so I switch to a device. For example, I press watch tv. Remotes turns on tv, stb, and receiver, controlling everything through the stb except for sound, which is controlled through the receiver. Then I want to change a setting on the tv, so I go to device and select tv. When I get done with this is there any way to switch back to the watch tv activity so that I am controlling everything together again without the remote forcing each device to go through the process of turning on again? Hopefully this makes sense. Whenever I do this I press watch tv and then have to deal with brief loss of picture and sound as everything sets up again, which is very annoying. Does anyone know how to do this correctly? Sorry if this has been answered before, I sifted through the thread but couldn't find anything.
Just press the Device button again. That will return you to the activity.

mx6bfast
07-13-08, 10:18 PM
I have 2 880's, my original (A) and the replacement (B). A had the left side of the screen start to go blank and it was replaced with B. I can still use A as a backup to B when the battery is about to die. (its been almost 7 months since A was charged and used twice for no more than 10 minutes total. long ass battery life) Since A's battery needs to be recharged, could I stick A's battery into B and not have any problems with the current setup/activities? I can't get A to charge on the cradle anymore.

I think the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure.

BruceS
07-14-08, 09:47 AM
You should have no problem at all charging the battery in one remote and then switching it to the other one to use.

That is the method I use now. I charge the batteries in my 880 and then use them in my 890.

The only thing I have found I need to be careful about is to make sure that all of my devices are powered down when I switch the battery from one remote to the other.

The remote loses track of which devices are currently powered on when you remove the battery. So it thinks they are all off after the battery has been replaced.

Since I don't think it is good for the life of the lamp in my DLP TV to power it on and off more than necessary, I try to make sure everything is powered off before I switch the batteries.

APR
07-15-08, 05:35 PM
Hey everyone,
Just got myself an 880 (wanted to try it out before thinking of the "One" upgrade) and have been very happy so far. The buttons are a touch small but the wife really likes the peanut shape and style.

I have a "Watch Dish" activity and was wondering if I could get the favorites to show up on the customizable buttons right away. (so, when I click "Watch Dish" the screen should now show the favorites and not the other customizable buttons - I really don't have any customizable buttons for this activity)

Currently, I need to hit "Watch Dish" and then the Media button but I don't want to do that. I haven't tried it but the only solution I could think of is to add the channel favorites as customizable buttons themselves - (a little bit time consuming since for 3-digit channels, I need create a new sequence and then assign the sequence to the customizable buttons). Also, not sure what the delay in the sequence would be.

Do folks have a better solution than this? Can I add the media button to the "Watch Dish" button sequence? (trouble is the media button is for the remote and is not really something on any other devices)

Thanks
APR

Beerstalker
07-15-08, 07:14 PM
I don't think you can set up the 880 to do this.

It is an option on the Harmony One though.

joe221
07-16-08, 02:20 PM
A heads up to those that want an 880. Amazon has them with a rebate now yielding $85. Maybe $75 if you use their pay later deal. It's all on the page.
Search for the 880 sold by Amazon.

cadsystems
07-16-08, 04:58 PM
A heads up to those that want an 880. Amazon has them with a rebate now yielding $85. Maybe $75 if you use their pay later deal. It's all on the page.
Search for the 880 sold by Amazon.

Just picked it up. Saw it on slickdeals. I had an old harmony that bit the dust after 4 years. Best little remote ever. Can't wait to get my hands on the 880. I put in 1 day shipping but the estimated shipping is 21 of July. I was hoping to have it for the weekend.

Tyrindor
07-16-08, 05:46 PM
Are you able to change the icons for things such as "Watch TV" "Play 360" etc?

In other words.. can I make a small picture in paint and then upload it and use it as the icon for "Watch TV"?

joe221
07-16-08, 09:14 PM
Are you able to change the icons for things such as "Watch TV" "Play 360" etc?

In other words.. can I make a small picture in paint and then upload it and use it as the icon for "Watch TV"?

Nope, it's been asked for forever. Just their canned themes. They have soccer! :( Same on The One, too.

Tyrindor
07-16-08, 09:21 PM
Nope, it's been asked for forever. Just their canned themes. They have soccer! :( Same on The One, too.

Is there a no icon theme then? Mainly because I don't want all 3 of my consoles having a PS2 controller in the back.. I'd rather just see text.

joe221
07-16-08, 10:50 PM
Is there a no icon theme then? Mainly because I don't want all 3 of my consoles having a PS2 controller in the back.. I'd rather just see text.

There are themes, and that's what Logitech calls them, so you can tweak what you see. They're in Remote Settings/Themes.

cadsystems
07-17-08, 10:30 AM
Just picked it up. Saw it on slickdeals. I had an old harmony that bit the dust after 4 years. Best little remote ever. Can't wait to get my hands on the 880. I put in 1 day shipping but the estimated shipping is 21 of July. I was hoping to have it for the weekend.

Doh, Amazon doesn't have it in their warehouse, has to come from a distributor first. So don't pick overnight shipping. It won't get there in one day. It takes about 3-4 days even though you pick overnight. No harmony remote to play around with for the weekend.

jeffro23
07-17-08, 10:53 AM
sorry Ive tried to read many of the 150 pages but have a quick question about my 880.

I have an activity defined to watch TV. OFten 1 or more of the commands doesnt register and I have to click help
and then cycle through all the verifications.

Just looking for a tip on how I can resolve this. thanks

Gary J
07-17-08, 12:22 PM
Search the thread for "delay".

Beerstalker
07-17-08, 06:16 PM
I would also suggest he check out these two threads.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=623320

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016794&highlight=delay

TanGU
07-20-08, 10:27 AM
Hi guys,

I have the Philips model DVP-5982 who can upscale a dvd to 480P, 720P, 1080i.

There is two thing missing from the Logitech 880, it is the ability to do an Eject of the dvd, and the upscale button is missing. Those two command are only on the front of the dvd player.

Anyway i can get the remote to learn those two command ?

TanGU.

Gary J
07-20-08, 10:30 AM
You can learn any IR command from the original remote.

TanGU
07-20-08, 10:37 AM
like i said:
Those two command are only on the front of the dvd player.
So the reason of my post is they are not on the original remote.

Florida
07-20-08, 12:25 PM
If it isn't on the remote and isn't available from the customize button drop down list there isn't any way to do it on the 880. If the DVD menu is available from the 880 you could use that if those options are available in the menu. You could ask Philips for the codes and then ask Logitech support to add the options for the device. I believe that those are your only options.

Hi guys,

I have the Philips model DVP-5982 who can upscale a dvd to 480P, 720P, 1080i.

There is two thing missing from the Logitech 880, it is the ability to do an Eject of the dvd, and the upscale button is missing. Those two command are only on the front of the dvd player.

Anyway i can get the remote to learn those two command ?

TanGU.

joe221
07-20-08, 12:28 PM
like i said:

So the reason of my post is they are not on the original remote.

Some early Toshiba DVD players didn't eject and there was no hidden command. They just didn't.

Gary J
07-20-08, 12:42 PM
like i said:

So the reason of my post is they are not on the original remote.

Ipso facto they can not be learned.

Chris Campbell
07-22-08, 10:18 AM
Just bought the Harmony 880 yesterday and tried to set up with my Olevia 747i tv, Integra DTR7 AVR, Xbox 360 and Dish Network ViP 222. The only one I'm having a LOT of trouble with is the ViP 222. I can't get it to work at all. I entered the device name and it recognizes it - I even spent the time to customize the buttons under that device for the remote. It won't turn the 222 on at all though, let alone control its functions.

Also, how do I get into a "advanced" macro design mode for the activities? It seems they really want you to use their stupid wizard because the three options they give you when you've completed the activity design are no help at all. "Yes, this is exactly what I want", "yes, but I want to change some features", or "no, I want to go through the wizard again". NONE of these gave me the ability to really edit the functions the way I wanted (like adding delays and such for turning on my TV).

Any advice? Thanks

SaltiDawg
07-22-08, 10:28 AM
...The only one I'm having a LOT of trouble with is the ViP 222. I can't get it to work at all. I entered the device name and it recognizes it - I even spent the time to customize the buttons under that device for the remote. It won't turn the 222 on at all though, let alone control its functions.....
Chris,

My experience is with 622's, 942's, and 508's with Harmony Remotes.

With your 222 try setting your IR address to CH 1 on the 222 - it's sounds as if the Harmony is expecting IR address CH 1, and you are actually using another IR address.

blazeblaze
07-22-08, 11:28 AM
With your 222 try setting your IR address to CH 1 on the 222 - it's sounds as if the Harmony is expecting IR address CH 1, and you are actually using another IR address.

I think the channel changes with those Dish Network remotes actually changes the RF frequency used...I'm not so sure that it does anything with the IR. But I guess it would be worth a try. I think Chris needs to relearn the on/off commands from his original remote versus using the commands from the database. It might also be worth trying to remove (or rename the device if you've made lots of customizations already)...and then create a new one for the VIP222. I did this with an Xbox just about a week ago on a new Harmony for my father...and it was really jacked up....and then I readded it, and everything was fine.

bernie33
07-22-08, 12:40 PM
Just bought the Harmony 880 yesterday and tried to set up with my Olevia 747i tv, Integra DTR7 AVR, Xbox 360 and Dish Network ViP 222. The only one I'm having a LOT of trouble with is the ViP 222. I can't get it to work at all. I entered the device name and it recognizes it - I even spent the time to customize the buttons under that device for the remote. It won't turn the 222 on at all though, let alone control its functions.

Also, how do I get into a "advanced" macro design mode for the activities? It seems they really want you to use their stupid wizard because the three options they give you when you've completed the activity design are no help at all. "Yes, this is exactly what I want", "yes, but I want to change some features", or "no, I want to go through the wizard again". NONE of these gave me the ability to really edit the functions the way I wanted (like adding delays and such for turning on my TV).

Any advice? Thanks

Aside from the advice others gave you about things to try to get the Dish box to recognize the IR from the Harmony, you may want to give serious consideration to returning the Harmony. Please don't misunderstand. I love the Harmony 880, have recommended to lots of people, and have lots of friends and relatives that have a Harmony. But I'm keying off of your comments about "advanced macros" and "stupid wizard". To be happy with the Harmony you have to accept the philosophy that they've taken - fighting it only leads to frustration on your part and your eventually returning it anyway.

That being said, the "Activities" that the Harmony wizard sets up for you are a form of "macro". The Activity to "watch TV" will turn on your TV and set it to the proper input, turn on your Dish receiver if necessary, turn on your audio system if you have one and set it to the correct input and output. Similarly for Watch a DVD, Play a Game, etc. as long as the devices can be IR controlled. For some Activities, and for some devices, you may find it necessary to add extra commands when starting or leaving an Activity. At the end of the Wizard, when it asks if things are setup correctly you cna say no and there is a way to get into adding commands.

If all else fails, the Harmony telephone support is excellent.

Good luck. Hope it works out for you and that the Harmony becomes something your family enjoys and that it doesn't become a source of aggravation for you.

Bernie

Gary J
07-22-08, 01:18 PM
Once again it's a matter of taking some time to learn the software instead of moaning about it.

Chris Campbell
07-22-08, 01:45 PM
Once again it's a matter of taking some time to learn the software instead of moaning about it.

Sorry, didn't intend to "moan" about it. Yes, it was a bit frustrating after 2-3 hours of fiddling around since there's very little actual documentation provided that helps to set up the remote, but from what I can tell it could be a very powerful and helpful tool. I'm seeing that once I get the kinks worked out I'll love it. I really intended to solicit advice, but I guess a little of my frustration came through in the OP.

Chris,

My experience is with 622's, 942's, and 508's with Harmony Remotes.

With your 222 try setting your IR address to CH 1 on the 222 - it's sounds as if the Harmony is expecting IR address CH 1, and you are actually using another IR address.

I'm afraid I don't understand fully. Can I do this within the menu system on the 222 remote?

Aside from the advice others gave you about things to try to get the Dish box to recognize the IR from the Harmony, you may want to give serious consideration to returning the Harmony. Please don't misunderstand. I love the Harmony 880, have recommended to lots of people, and have lots of friends and relatives that have a Harmony. But I'm keying off of your comments about "advanced macros" and "stupid wizard". To be happy with the Harmony you have to accept the philosophy that they've taken - fighting it only leads to frustration on your part and your eventually returning it anyway.

That being said, the "Activities" that the Harmony wizard sets up for you are a form of "macro". The Activity to "watch TV" will turn on your TV and set it to the proper input, turn on your Dish receiver if necessary, turn on your audio system if you have one and set it to the correct input and output. Similarly for Watch a DVD, Play a Game, etc. as long as the devices can be IR controlled. For some Activities, and for some devices, you may find it necessary to add extra commands when starting or leaving an Activity. At the end of the Wizard, when it asks if things are setup correctly you cna say no and there is a way to get into adding commands.

If all else fails, the Harmony telephone support is excellent.

Good luck. Hope it works out for you and that the Harmony becomes something your family enjoys and that it doesn't become a source of aggravation for you.

Bernie

Thanks for your reply. As I mentioned earlier, I think after working out the bugs I could love this remote, but I'm a little surprised they don't make it more intuitive to enter into some kind of "advanced mode" for those users (that, admittedly, would be the exception - I have no illusion otherwise) that wish to have a bit more control over things during setup. As I mentioned I attempted to do what you're describing - adding extra commands (or deleting ones that it thinks are necessary) - but just didn't see how among the three options that are presented at the end of the wizard. I do like the button customization though - that seemed very convenient and I didn't even realize the remote had the ability to use those 8 buttons up top for user-defined functions. Very cool.

I tried deleting all the devices (except my TV and receiver, which worked perfectly) and all activities and started from scratch to get the 222 working. Didn't seem to help.

I guess I'll try customer support. It surprises me to hear you say they're helpful though, as 100% of the other testimonials I'd read after searching extensively showed negative feedback for their reps.

Chris Campbell
07-22-08, 04:37 PM
Chris,

My experience is with 622's, 942's, and 508's with Harmony Remotes.

With your 222 try setting your IR address to CH 1 on the 222 - it's sounds as if the Harmony is expecting IR address CH 1, and you are actually using another IR address.

Just got off the phone with tech support - that was exactly what the problem was. Somehow he switched my Harmony to channel 7, which is what my 222 was receiving on. Anyone know if we can do this ourselves? I have another Harmony coming (the 550) for my setup downstairs (with VIP722) and I'll probably need to do the same thing.

SaltiDawg
07-22-08, 05:03 PM
I think the channel changes with those Dish Network remotes actually changes the RF frequency used...I'm not so sure that it does anything with the IR. ...
Actually there are multiple IR addresses for both IR and RF for the 942/622/722's. For the 508's there were multiple addresses for the IR.

If one has more than one of those receivers controlled by one Harmony remote, the harmony software will have you push a couple of keys on the Dish remote so that the Harmony will know what IR address goes with which receiver.
I do not know what happens when you have only one Dish receiver beoiing controlled - thus I suggested changing the Dish receiver to IR address 1.

There is no need to go into learning mode to learn commands. (Unless once working you want to add something not found in the Harmony data bank.

SaltiDawg
07-22-08, 05:07 PM
Just got off the phone with tech support - that was exactly what the problem was. Somehow he switched my Harmony to channel 7, which is what my 222 was receiving on. Anyone know if we can do this ourselves? I have another Harmony coming (the 550) for my setup downstairs (with VIP722) and I'll probably need to do the same thing.
Yes, you can change the IR address in the Dish Menu's. Instead of switching the Harmony to address 7, I was suggesting that you change the IR address on the Dish to Ch 1. Either way would work.

SaltiDawg
07-22-08, 05:11 PM
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I'm afraid I don't understand fully. Can I do this within the menu system on the 222 remote?
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I guess I'll try customer support. It surprises me to hear you say they're helpful though, as 100% of the other testimonials I'd read after searching extensively showed negative feedback for their reps.

Yes, you can change the IR address in the Dish Menu's.

Re Customer Support, your "extensive search" resulted in crap. Logitech Customer Support is both a professional group, but they patiently work with you to get a full resolution. It is rare that I've seen them bad-mouthed here or elsewhere.

Instead of getting a head of steam up and venting here, a phone call to Tech Support would likely have yielded a satisfactory solution and avoided displaying a failure to do one's homework. You're an excellent example. :rolleyes:

PS Had you searched this Forum for "Dish IR" you would have had your solution numerous times over. lol

Gary J
07-22-08, 05:22 PM
Instead of getting a head of steam up and venting here, a phone call to Tech Support would likely have yielded a satisfactory solution and avoided displaying a failure to do one's homework. You're an excellent example. :rolleyes:


Is there an echo in here?

Chris Campbell
07-22-08, 05:40 PM
Yes, you can change the IR address in the Dish Menu's.

Re Customer Support, your "extensive search" resulted in crap. Logitech Customer Support is both a professional group, but they patiently work with you to get a full resolution. It is rare that I've seen them bad-mouthed here or elsewhere.

Instead of getting a head of steam up and venting here, a phone call to Tech Support would likely have yielded a satisfactory solution and avoided displaying a failure to do one's homework. You're an excellent example. :rolleyes:

PS Had you searched this Forum for "Dish IR" you would have had your solution numerous times over. lol

Are you joking? Exactly what part of my posts sounded like I've developed a "head of steam"? I suppose it doesn't sound reasonable that I went in and posted at a message board (here) - after searching - while I was at work so I didn't have to waste the 30 minutes on the phone like I just did after work? I searched for "VIP 222", "Dish receivers", and a couple other items - all of which yielded nothing on IR channels. I'm sorry if this doesn't constitute "doing my homework" in your opinion.

Little touchy are we? Everyone is real friendly around here... :rolleyes:

bernie33
07-22-08, 06:08 PM
Are you joking? Exactly what part of my posts sounded like I've developed a "head of steam"? I suppose it doesn't sound reasonable that I went in and posted at a message board (here) - after searching - while I was at work so I didn't have to waste the 30 minutes on the phone like I just did after work? I searched for "VIP 222", "Dish receivers", and a couple other items - all of which yielded nothing on IR channels. I'm sorry if this doesn't constitute "doing my homework" in your opinion.

Little touchy are we? Everyone is real friendly around here... :rolleyes:
I was surprised too, at his tone in post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14345448&postcount=4497, especially after Saltidawag gave you good and friendly advice in his first few replies. But anyways, glad you have things working and that you had the same positive experience with Customer Support as most people. I was surprised that you had found negative comments, because the comments I remember have all been positive. But I haven't done a search to check. And most people that reply here are indeed just trying to provide friendly help and occasionally learn something.