I went to remove the battery cover and it was very difficult to get off. Finally got it off and the battery wont come out. The battery looks as though it has expanded, blown up. It has been a few years, but it seems as though it should slide back and pop right out.

Can anyone confirm that my battery might be toast?Your battery is definitely toast. My 880's battery cover slides off easily and the battery just falls out when I invert the unit.

Your battery is definitely toast. My 880's battery cover slides off easily and the battery just falls out when I invert the unit.

this isn't necessarily true. Mine is hard to get the back cover off (most times) and it works just fine.


**I would really try to get the battery off (carefully) to see if there is any physical damage to the battery or the connectors in the remote. But yes it looks like it's the battery might be pooched.

The best that ya can do is to complain to there support. They know theres a history of problems with the battery and should at least offer you some type of coupon towards a new remote or battery.

I haven't had a single problem with mine, had it for more than a year by now.

A battery that I thought was toast, charged too full and maintains when I put it in my One. :confused:

I even changed out the base (880) with an extra I have. That made the 880 charge better but only with a spare battery.
BTW these batteries are readily available on Ebay for around $10-15.

A neighbor of mine had his 880 start down the road to base failure hell. He's out of warranty and Logi support gave him a code for 50% off any remote in their store. He got a One.

A neighbor of mine had his 880 start down the road to base failure hell. He's out of warranty and Logi support gave him a code for 50% off any remote in their store. He got a One.

That's exactly what they did for me, and exactly what I bought. Happy with the ONE. Charges perfectly and works great. The only sucky part is that not all of the little tweaks from my 880 moved over to the ONE. What's up with that?

i just got a dish network ViP722k dvr and my 880 refuses to operate it. has anyone else had this problem and if so how did you fix it

I have the VIP622, and my buddy has the VIP722 and we both use a Harmony 880 to operate them full time. I'm not sure what the "k" on the end of model number means, but it's probably just the latest revision. If you are having trouble, try to remove the device and re-add. Some times I would find multiple listings for a device, and one would be more accurate than the other. If all else fails, try just the plain VIP722 model in the Harmony database...as I would guess that it would have the very same remote commands. And if that fails, try the VIP622 commands.

FYI, I was googling your model number, and I spotted the same issue posted on another forum...and they said a reboot of the unit fixed the issue. So, that might be the easiest thing to try first.

Another thread I ran across might have some helpful tips for you:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=158915

hey thanks for your help blaze the forum you turned me to really helped. it helped me figure out that i just had to program every single button to the harmony software using the 722k's remote and now it works perfectly

Hi. I bought an 880 a little over a month ago and the clear plastic shell over the LCD has cracked. Logitech wont replace it as they claim to have no repair facility or spare parts. (I find this comical considering the number of refurbs on the market; the defective units must be sent to the Tooth Fairy and returned to the market magically.)

Anyhow, does anyone have spare parts or know how to get satisfaction from Logitech?

Hi. I bought an 880 a little over a month ago and the clear plastic shell over the LCD has cracked. Logitech wont replace it as they claim to have no repair facility or spare parts. (I find this comical considering the number of refurbs on the market; the defective units must be sent to the Tooth Fairy and returned to the market magically.)

Anyhow, does anyone have spare parts or know how to get satisfaction from Logitech?
If you bought a new 880 only a month ago and the case cracked then it is still under warranty. Does Logitech understand that you bought a new 880 so recently? Can you just take it back to the store where you bought it and exchange it there? Logitech is normally extremely ood about customer service, a role model that others should emulate.

The remote was purchased as a refurb from Newegg (who only offer 30 days return), but I beleive the refurb came with a 1 year warranty from Logitech. Anyhow, they aren't citing that as the problem, rather they don't cover damages.
Thank you for your recent inquiry about your Harmony Universal Remote.

We are sorry to hear about your damaged Harmony Remote. Logitech does not cover damages under warranty. Given this, we are unable to offer you a replacement unit.

Unfortunately, we will be unable to repair the remote.

We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused.

I got mine from buy.com as a Christmas gift and it's great. I'm only controlling 3 devices but what a great product. The Harmony 1 was to expensive so i bought the 880 and find it great. Sometimes i point it away from the devices before it's done and i need to manual reset the sequence but other than that i really like it. The touch screen does sound much better than them small buttons specially if you have big fingers like me.

The remote was purchased as a refurb from Newegg (who only offer 30 days return), but I beleive the refurb came with a 1 year warranty from Logitech. Anyhow, they aren't citing that as the problem, rather they don't cover damages.

from their response it sounds like they believe you ("damaged")cracked it. this would fall under their misuse clause as they believe it didnt or couldnt have happened under normal use. they dont cover damages from dropping it or something falling on it. it sounds like they believe something like that happened.

from their response it sounds like they believe you ("damaged")cracked it. this would fall under their misuse clause as they believe it didnt or couldnt have happened under normal use. they dont cover damages from dropping it or something falling on it. it sounds like they believe something like that happened.

I admit it. I have kids and hardwoord floors. I wasn't misused, but that's besides the point. I'm willing to pay for parts or service, but there are none to be had according to three separate techs. My last response to them was asking if they expected me to completely replace the remote simply over a cosmetic defect. This is truly poor customer service and I'm pretty PO'd... Again, where (and who) are they getting parts to repair their thousands of refurbs???

Again, where (and who) are they getting parts to repair their thousands of refurbs???

good question. perhaps you can get an answer over in the logitech forums.
http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/?category.id=harmony_remote_controls
if you do how about posting the responce here to so we all know.

Hey Y'all :).

A couple years ago I got an 880 and used it for a short time, but didn't really like it too much. I packed it back up in the box because I was doing some renovating at that time, then It kinda just stayed in the box.
I recently bought a house and put in a dedicated theater/music room, but the a/v rack is in the back of the room.
I was going to get a different RF remote, but am a bit short on cash right now.
I thought maybe I would give the 880 another chance to prove itself :p.
Seriously, it's a great remote, I think maybe it was the "feel" of it I didn't like.

Anyway, if I use the 880, then I will need some type of remote extender.
I saw the one that's rated pretty good, and looks like a flying saucer shape?
However that one uses a special "AA battery" that you need to put in the remote, so it will not work with the 880.
I see Monoprice has one also, but there are only a couple ratings. Anyone else using a remote extender with the 880? Any recommendations?
...or should I just sell the 880 and buy a RF remote?

That's exactly what they did for me, and exactly what I bought. Happy with the ONE. Charges perfectly and works great. The only sucky part is that not all of the little tweaks from my 880 moved over to the ONE. What's up with that?

That happens a lot in a conversion. Remember they are NOT identical, so some items get lost in the translation. Still, easier than starting from scratch.

My pricey 880 has stopped working. It's only a few years old and it's now a door stop.

Using the digital camera trick I can see no white light. Yet the battery shows full charge. Doing a reload via the usb cable didn't help. I swapped out the IF emitters with new ones and nothing, still not working.

Now what? What options do I have?

Thanks

My pricey 880 has stopped working. It's only a few years old and it's now a door stop.

Using the digital camare trick I can see no white light. Yet the battery shows full charge. Doing a reload via the usb cable didn't help. I swaped out the IF emitters with new ones and nothing, still not working.

Now what? What options do I have?

Thanks

Tell support the cradle doesn't charge and get 1/2 off coupon? :(

My pricey 880 has stopped working. It's only a few years old and it's now a door stop.

Using the digital camare trick I can see no white light. Yet the battery shows full charge. Doing a reload via the usb cable didn't help. I swaped out the IF emitters with new ones and nothing, still not working.

Now what? What options do I have?

Thanks

Does it work if you hold the remote very close to the component your trying to control? I know you said you already tried changing the emitters but just curious since some of us others had similar problems and the remote would only work within 6" of components

Does it work if you hold the remote very close to the component your trying to control? I know you said you already tried changing the emitters but just curious since some of us others had similar problems and the remote would only work within 6" of components

Nope.

My pricey 880 has stopped working. It's only a few years old and it's now a door stop.
Now what? What options do I have? Phone Logitech support. They know the 880s die premature deaths. Maybe they'll give you an acceptable option.

They offer discounts for ordering new ones and those discounts are for ordering thru Logitech themselves who are charging full MSRP. Still cheaper to get thru amazon.

There seems to be a very high percentage of people all stating these remotes are lasting less then 2 years for various reasons.

Mine has lasted 4 years.

Does anyone have DirecTV? I'm trying to find out what delay I need for the input delay. Using the D* remote responds faster than the 880.

How generous, after the high cost and short life span of my 880, Harmony has graciously agreed to give me a 50% off coupon. Whoop Dee Do! I can find that on Amazon. Sucks.

How generous, after the high cost and short life span of my 880, Harmony has graciously agreed to give me a 50% off coupon. Whoop Dee Do! I can find that on Amazon. Sucks.

Why would anyone buy another 880? What guarantee does anyone have that it too won't good bad in two years? I'll be looking at other brands from now on.

Oh well.

There seems to be a very high percentage of people all stating these remotes are lasting less then 2 years for various reasons.

I am on year 3+ with mine.

How generous, after the high cost and short life span of my 880, Harmony has graciously agreed to give me a 50% off coupon. Whoop Dee Do! I can find that on Amazon. Sucks.

I'm sorry for your issues with your 880. I have two of them that are well into year three (one is a referb) and I also have a One working toward year two. I've recommended earlier models for my family and friends. All 6 of them continue to run well without issues.

Just wait.

I haven't used My 880- for 9 months now.
1. It will not recharge- "Battery level low....." Should i just get a new battery?

Where- RS?

I haven't used My 880- for 9 months now.
1. It will not recharge- "Battery level low....." Should i just get a new battery?

Where- RS?

I believe that the only place to purchase the 880/890 batteries is directly from Logitech. Previous posters on this forum indicate that other batteries will not charge. I recently purchased two from them.

Hello,

I have configured and added all devices to my remote setup with the default values. The LCD TV, AV-Receiver and PS3 make up my whole setup.

I have the following queries/problems for which I would appreciate all the guidance:

1. Initially I encountered problems when configuring an activity with sequence of Turning on the PS3, AV-receiver and LCD TV. In this the PS3 and AV-Receiver is turned on but somehow the LCD is not turned on correctly via the 'PowerToggle' command.

I suppose that has got something to do with the infrared timings of the signal firing from the harmony 880. But there are timing settings with 3 options for each device and I am not sure what are the optimal safe values which I should change for all the things to start correctly with a brief pause ( so that the infrared signal should not get jumbled up making device not to respond ). Should I use the send pause for "xxx seconds " command in the activity menu for doing so.


2. Similarly I also got the Logitech Harmony Adapter for PLAYSTATION 3 when i bought the Harmony 880. Everything seems to work except that the fact it cannot correctly power off my PS3. It is widely touted everywhere that it is able to do so , but in my case it shows the power off menu, scrolls down once scrolls up once and then goes back to the main XMB menu in Playstation 3.

Instead it should do is that it should press the "PS" button for while, then when the resulting screen is shown it should press the "Circle/Enter" button once and then once again to the turn-off/standby the PS3.

I tried to modify this behavior of the PS3 power off command, but I don't know how to do it. Since i believe it imports the commands from its logitech online database. I tried to choose the option to change the power on and off behavior of the device in the devices menu, and then selected the option to have more than once command to power off the device and then correctly entered all the keys in sequence needed to fire to turn off the PS3. But somehow it doesnt modify the behavior of the standard 'PowerOff' command already imported in the database.

Can someone who has experimented with a similar setup guide me how to get my problems solved, before thinking that it all is the money spent in vain to buy Harmony and PS3 Adapter with it :-).

Best Regards,
Adrenaline Rush


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24-Jun-09

Discovered something new...

Making me go nuts. I configured the PS3 power off settings manually by setting the "PSHold" button, then "Circle/Enter" button once and then once again to the turn-off/standby the PS3.

Although it is not shown , but this combination should be assigned to the standard 'PS3Off' command already imported via database.

However this command does not works when used standalone, i.e, when playing games or watching a movie on PS3 and ONLY trying to turnoff PS3 via this command.

But, when I assigned and created a new Activity for 'Watching DVD' , it already shows me a default list of devices used and their default sequences and actions. I did a review of the activity , did a few tweaks to it and tried turning on everything with the Start Activity from Harmony 880. Everything including PS3 works as expected and is turned on with corrects input assignments.

When I leave the activity by pressing the stop button, everything powers off, including PS3 as well........kinda boggling for me. For my understanding when running an activity it should have called the stored 'PowerOff' command, which I did try to tweak earlier, and which does not works in standalone mode, however it does works it stopping the 'Activity'.

Anybody got a clue for it....Logitech please help and please design your online software in a way to give us more control over the commands and possibility to update the database for individual users.

Myself.

Thanks, just ordered-however, it's back order for 3-4 weeks. $32+$7-S&H

I believe that the only place to purchase the 880/890 batteries is directly from Logitech. Previous posters on this forum indicate that other batteries will not charge. I recently purchased two from them.

Ebay is your friend. Do some searching. About $10.

Hey Y'all :).

A couple years ago I got an 880 and used it for a short time, but didn't really like it too much. I packed it back up in the box because I was doing some renovating at that time, then It kinda just stayed in the box.
I recently bought a house and put in a dedicated theater/music room, but the a/v rack is in the back of the room.
I was going to get a different RF remote, but am a bit short on cash right now.
I thought maybe I would give the 880 another chance to prove itself :p.
Seriously, it's a great remote, I think maybe it was the "feel" of it I didn't like.

Anyway, if I use the 880, then I will need some type of remote extender.
I saw the one that's rated pretty good, and looks like a flying saucer shape?
However that one uses a special "AA battery" that you need to put in the remote, so it will not work with the 880.
I see Monoprice has one also, but there are only a couple ratings. Anyone else using a remote extender with the 880? Any recommendations?
...or should I just sell the 880 and buy a RF remote?

Well, I got a killer deal on a URC RFS200 remote today, so I'll be getting rid of my ever_so_slightly used 880. $100 shipped to CONUS if anyone is interested.

Well, I got a killer deal on a URC RFS200 remote today, so I'll be getting rid of my ever_so_slightly used 880. $100 shipped to CONUS if anyone is interested.

Really! ;)

Really! ;)

Feels like something is going over my head?:confused:

Feels like something is going over my head?:confused:

OK, if you get $100 GREAT, but a few things. It's generally available as a refurb with a warranty (at least 90 days) for less. Since you used it, the warranty ends with you, sad but true. So it's essentially used as is no help from Logi. $100 is very optimistic. Didn't mean to be mean, just thought it funny.

OK, if you get $100 GREAT, but a few things. It's generally available as a refurb with a warranty (at least 90 days) for less. Since you used it, the warranty ends with you, sad but true. So it's essentially used as is no help from Logi. $100 is very optimistic. Didn't mean to be mean, just thought it funny.

Ok, looking through completed listings on Ebay, you can't get much better than $80 shipped for like new / complete / only used a few hours.
Anyone interested lmk, otherwise I'll throw it up in the classifieds for 85, and if that doesn't go I'll put it on Ebay for $89.99 BIN and it'll probably sell in a day.
Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't aware they were going that cheap.

Having an issue learning a command from the original remote.

Samsung 2550 Blu Ray player has a button on it for the Disc Menu. I would like that to be learned to my 880. The default settings only have a regular Menu on it (which is the setup menu for the player).

I go through the learning command steps and nothing happens. I've pressed the button on the original remote for anywhere form a second or two to a full minute at least. I've been able to learn other commands with other remotes with no issues.

Any ideas?

Having an issue learning a command from the original remote.

Samsung 2550 Blu Ray player has a button on it for the Disc Menu. I would like that to be learned to my 880. The default settings only have a regular Menu on it (which is the setup menu for the player).

I go through the learning command steps and nothing happens. I've pressed the button on the original remote for anywhere form a second or two to a full minute at least. I've been able to learn other commands with other remotes with no issues.

Any ideas?

When I have programmed buttons from the original remote, I've found it is best to press the button on the original remote as if you were using it. Long depression of the button didn't work in my case either, but a simple 'click' of the button worked fine.

thanks sivartk. Should it just be one depression or multiple?

Family is using the remote now but I will try again tonight.

I believe there is also a RAW learning mode buried in there somewhere. It seems like I've had to use it once or twice over the years when the regular learning mode wouldn't work.

Anyone know how to get into this RAW learning mode? I have a barco graphics 808 projector. I selected it as a device, it didn't work. I tried to program the remote and it wouldn't recognize the key presses in learning mode. Thanks!

UPDATE: googled and found raw mode. still didn't work. Anyone have an idea? It just says "NO IR detected" when I try to program it.

thanks!

I believe there is also a RAW learning mode buried in there somewhere. It seems like I've had to use it once or twice over the years when the regular learning mode wouldn't work.

I might have to look into that. I tried using sivartk's method and it seemed to learn the code fine. Then when I tried to use it, it didn't work. :(

I attempted to search but couldn't find this particular issue (could be search ineptitude) I am trying to program an activity so my 5 year old can turn on the TV and it will auto tune to our DirecTv HR 20-700 to channel 290. I have tried putting this into the activity and programming it to a button within the activity. None of them work, it will output the numbers too slow. So it sends the 2 and then by the time it sends the 9 the DirecTV is already tuning to Channel 2. Does anyone have any suggestions?? 2 hours in so far and I am getting very frustrated.

Thanks!

I attempted to search but couldn't find this particular issue (could be search ineptitude) I am trying to program an activity so my 5 year old can turn on the TV and it will auto tune to our DirecTv HR 20-700 to channel 290. I have tried putting this into the activity and programming it to a button within the activity. None of them work, it will output the numbers too slow. So it sends the 2 and then by the time it sends the 9 the DirecTV is already tuning to Channel 2. Does anyone have any suggestions?? 2 hours in so far and I am getting very frustrated.

Thanks!

Try adjusting the inter-key delay to a lower number. Under "Devices" select "Settings" for the HR 20 (D* tuner). Then choose "Adjust the delays."

Try adjusting the inter-key delay to a lower number. Under "Devices" select "Settings" for the HR 20 (D* tuner). Then choose "Adjust the delays."

Thanks for the suggestion, but I still can't get it to do it. Even at a 0ms inter-key delay it will do the first digit, sometimes the first and second digit but it never gets all three of them.

ETA: For DirecTv with this channel issue you need to change the inter-device delay. I changed that delay it it now works great.

Go to Settings
Review the settings for this Activity.
Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity.
Go to
Custom Actions
Please review the actions for your Regarder la TV Activity:
Add action for your device when the Activity starts

Set it to this channel: 290

Go to Settings
Review the settings for this Activity.
Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity.
Go to
Custom Actions
Please review the actions for your Regarder la TV Activity:
Add action for your device when the Activity starts

Set it to this channel: 290

I tried something like this but it didn't work. I set it to channel "03" as my TV needs the zero first to change properly (no 'Enter' key). The Harmony will just ignore the zero and only send the three.

When I tried it as separate commands, it still ignores the zero. Any ideas?

Thanks for the suggestion, but I still can't get it to do it. Even at a 0ms inter-key delay it will do the first digit, sometimes the first and second digit but it never gets all three of them.

ETA: For DirecTv with this channel issue you need to change the inter-device delay. I changed that delay it it now works great.

Glad it worked, but that's strange. The whole point of the inter-DEVICE delay is to adjust such delay...well, between devices. If your satellite receiver was accepting the "2," but not the subsequent numbers, then that seems to be more of an inter-key delay. Oh well, at least I pointed you in the right direction.:)

I tried something like this but it didn't work. I set it to channel "03" as my TV needs the zero first to change properly (no 'Enter' key). The Harmony will just ignore the zero and only send the three.

When I tried it as separate commands, it still ignores the zero. Any ideas?

In the Device setup for your TV (Devices > Settings > Advanced setup for this device), keep advancing until you get to "How do you select channels with your original remote?" Which item is selected?

In the Device setup for your TV (Devices > Settings > Advanced setup for this device), keep advancing until you get to "How do you select channels with your original remote?" Which item is selected?

It said, "Numbers only." I'll change it to "Two Numbers" and give it a try....thanks.

I have a media center pc as well as my 360. When setting up my Harmony 880, if I put the computer in as a Media Center PC instead of just a computer, anytime I do the computer activity it powers on both the computer and the 360. Is there a way around this?

Please excuse me if this is in the wrong spot.
I’ve got a challenge with my Harmony 890 Pro and controlling my projector.

My Setup (still a work in progress):
Panasonic AE3000U PJ
Yamaha RX-V665 Receiver
DirecTV HR21 Sat (via HDMI)
Panasonic DVD (via HDMI)
XBOX (via Component in)

Due to an apparent limitation of the Yamaha, the XBOX Component signal wont up-convert to HDMI. No big deal, I thought, as I ran component cable up to the PJ.

That means I need to program the Harmony to switch inputs on the PJ. The PJ’s input select is ‘round robin’. It seems that no matter what I do with the programming and options on the Harmony all I can get it to do is advance the input one spot in the sequence. Frustrating. Any advice?

That means I need to program the Harmony to switch inputs on the PJ. The PJ’s input select is ‘round robin’. It seems that no matter what I do with the programming and options on the Harmony all I can get it to do is advance the input one spot in the sequence. Frustrating. Any advice?

I am unfamiliar with the settings on the AE3k, but if you cannot select the video input directly I don't think the 890/880 can help... unless you can count the number of inputs it has to change for each activity and then program that in with Harmony's "macro" process.

I would call and get to the 2nd level Tech Support at Harmony and see if they can help.

If not, you could run all your video/audio through the DVDO Edge and let the Edge to the video conversion for you, then you would not have to change your projectors input.

Are you sure its limited to round robin type picking. In the remote software, go into the device settings for the pj and see if it offers a specific command for each of the inputs.

Due to an apparent limitation of the Yamaha, the XBOX Component signal wont up-convert to HDMI. No big deal, I thought, as I ran component cable up to the PJ.

That means I need to program the Harmony to switch inputs on the PJ. The PJ’s input select is ‘round robin’. It seems that no matter what I do with the programming and options on the Harmony all I can get it to do is advance the input one spot in the sequence. Frustrating. Any advice?

Are you sure its limited to round robin type picking. In the remote software, go into the device settings for the pj and see if it offers a specific command for each of the inputs.

Tom, I believe you are correct. I have the 900U and I have discreets. Folsom, see page 28 of your owner's manual. If the 3000U device does not include the discreet codes (which I would assume it does), then you can use the 900U codes.

Anyone know how I can add a media center pc activity to use but won't turn my xbox 360 on/off also?

For anyone who still has a problem with their charging cradle, I found this to work for me (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U5BY8G/ref=ox_ya_oh_product).

It includes a new battery and a charging unit that holds the battery and plugs directly into a wall socket.

All I need to do when the battery in my 890 needs charging, is swap batteries between the 890 and the wall unit.

Now I don't need to worry about keeping the contacts on both the cradle and bottom of the 890 clean and making sure the 890 sits correctly in the cradle each time I need a charge.

I've just purchased a refurbished 880 to replace a 3 year old workhorse 676, whose most frequently used buttons gave up the ghost, and was programming in my favorites given the new opportunity to use color channel logos (when did I become so fickle?), when I discovered that--much to my chagrin--nobody has yet programmed the "." button from the Sharp remote into the database for Logitech to allow the direct tuning of ATSC OTA digital channels. Now, while I managed to find my old Sharp remote, it's apparently had a hard time in our junk drawer because even the freshest of batteries can't revive it to functioning, so I need some help from anyone who has a Sharp remote with the "." key that has taught their Harmony that command. I'm not sure how things get added to the database, but I figured this thread is the appropriate place to start that conversation.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can offer.:)

EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED!!! I emailed Logitech's support and they emailed back within the hour to let me know they'd added the "." to my database of functions. It works like a charm and I've now got ATSC tuned channels being dialed in without problem (even when my wife can't remember the numbers for them; thank you Logitech!)! Now why that function isn't in their standard database for the TV if they have it is another question for another time when I'm less happy with them. ;)

For anyone who still has a problem with their charging cradle, I found this to work for me (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U5BY8G/ref=ox_ya_oh_product).

It includes a new battery and a charging unit that holds the battery and plugs directly into a wall socket.

All I need to do when the battery in my 890 needs charging, is swap batteries between the 890 and the wall unit.

Now I don't need to worry about keeping the contacts on both the cradle and bottom of the 890 clean and making sure the 890 sits correctly in the cradle each time I need a charge.

Interesting find. Now can anyone find a cheaper place to buy this?

Does your charger loses track of time/date when you swap the batteries out.

What kind of IR receiver that I can use so that I can control my windows media center with harmony 880? I try to search it but I cannot find any. thanks

Tom, phdeane -
Thanks for the tips - and the advice to RTFM. I should know better. Anyway, the discreet codes were there and all is good now. btw - after resolving the input issue I discovered why the Yamaha wouldn't convert the comp. to hdmi (wont convert 1080p, moved the xbox to 1080i and all is good)
Thanks again.

Interesting find. Now can anyone find a cheaper place to buy this?

Does your charger loses track of time/date when you swap the batteries out.

Yes it loses the time and date, but you can reset them with the remote itself. At least in my case, there is an Activity called System Options that allows them to be reset.

My 880's IR emitters stopped working(tested looking through a digital camera). Is there any way to fix these? Logitech says its out of warranty and that there isn't any repair depots to send it to.

Is there anything I can do? or am I stuck with shelling out another $150 after only a year and a half of use?...

My 880's IR emitters stopped working(tested looking through a digital camera). Is there any way to fix these? Logitech says its out of warranty and that there isn't any repair depots to send it to.

Is there anything I can do? or am I stuck with shelling out another $150 after only a year and a half of use?...

Here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15548678#post15548678) is one guy's DIY.

Here is one guy's DIY.

Thanks, I'll give that a try. Hopefully its just the LED's that are shot.

I have an 890 and whenever I'm watching my "Watch a Blu-Ray" activity and am finished, I'll eject the disc first. Then I hit the power off button, and my blu-ray player (panasonic bd-30) and receiver (onkyo 606) do not turn off. All other activities turn on and turn off properly. Any ideas?

I have an 890 and whenever I'm watching my "Watch a Blu-Ray" activity and am finished, I'll eject the disc first. Then I hit the power off button, and my blu-ray player (panasonic bd-30) and receiver (onkyo 606) do not turn off. All other activities turn on and turn off properly. Any ideas?

Do the Blu-ray player and AVR turn on properly with the activity? What happens when you go through the guided help on the remote? Do they turn off properly then? Do they turn on and off properly via the device menu on your 890? Are you using power toggles or discrete on and off commands? When you say, "All other activities turn on and turn off properly," do the BD player and AVR turn on / off properly with other activities?

For those with an 890 who still need RF, but have been envious of those with a One, you may want to read this (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/08/11/logitechs-harmony-900-remote-controls-components-behind-closed/) and check this out (http://reviews.cnet.com/remote-controls/logitech-harmony-900/4505-7900_7-33743663.html?part=cnet&subj=Logitech+Harmony+900). It's a bit pricey, though.


It's arguably the best consumer remote with pro aspirations that we've tested to date.

Hi there. My 880 has been working great controlling all my stuff, but now I would like to create a new activity that will just turn on my TV and enable the internal speakers without powering on the HT system. Just going green I guess, and who needs 7.1 for the Weather Channel anyway. I have a Samsung LN52A750 and an Onkyo 606. I tried, but the 880 (or the TV) seems to get confuzzled navigating the menu. I don't know if there is a discrete code for the internal speaker muting. Has anyone done this? Appreciate any replies. Thanks.

Peder

Hi I searched quite a s**t load of pages, but I can't seem to find how to set up my favorite channels on the remote.

I have bell expressvu and a 9242pvr... When I press the media button nothing happens.. at all. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Hi I searched quite a s**t load of pages, but I can't seem to find how to set up my favorite channels on the remote.

I have bell expressvu and a 9242pvr... When I press the media button nothing happens.. at all. Any ideas?

Thanks!
You do it through software.
Start the Harmony software
Select your "Watch TV" Activity. T
Click Settings
Click Setup Favorite Channels and then click Next
Enter your favorite channels. We find it very useful to have the logo's for each of our favorite channels/networks.

If you do a search you'll find collections of TV logos or TV icons. You may also be able to use your browser and save logos from the websites of the stations. If you need to resize them or convert them to jpg's for the Harmony you can do it easily with the free Irfanview software, or with most image processing software.

Once you've done that and updated your remote, pressing the Media button will display your favorite channels.

Bernie

You do it through software.
Start the Harmony software
Select your "Watch TV" Activity. T
Click Settings
Click Setup Favorite Channels and then click Next
Enter your favorite channels. We find it very useful to have the logo's for each of our favorite channels/networks.

If you do a search you'll find collections of TV logos or TV icons. You may also be able to use your browser and save logos from the websites of the stations. If you need to resize them or convert them to jpg's for the Harmony you can do it easily with the free Irfanview software, or with most image processing software.

Once you've done that and updated your remote, pressing the Media button will display your favorite channels.

Bernie
Just create a new Activity using the TV only (No other Devices). You can call it something simple as "Watch TV". The only Device(s) you will need for this Activity is your TV. I have this set up on my remone. I Have two Activities, One is "Watch TV" and the other is "TV/Surround"

Hi there. My 880 has been working great controlling all my stuff, but now I would like to create a new activity that will just turn on my TV and enable the internal speakers without powering on the HT system. Just going green I guess, and who needs 7.1 for the Weather Channel anyway. I have a Samsung LN52A750 and an Onkyo 606. I tried, but the 880 (or the TV) seems to get confuzzled navigating the menu. I don't know if there is a discrete code for the internal speaker muting. Has anyone done this? Appreciate any replies. Thanks.

Peder
Just create a new Activity using the TV only (No other Devices). You can call it something simple as "Watch TV". The only Device(s) you will need for this Activity is your TV. I have this set up on my remone. I Have two Activities, One is "Watch TV" and the other is "TV/Surround"

Just create a new Activity using the TV only (No other Devices). You can call it something simple as "Watch TV". The only Device(s) you will need for this Activity is your TV. I have this set up on my remone. I Have two Activities, One is "Watch TV" and the other is "TV/Surround"
Sorry I posted this Reply in the wrong place....This was for provels post #5573. Will try again.

Sorry for the confusion....

Just create a new Activity using the TV only (No other Devices). You can call it something simple as "Watch TV". The only Device(s) you will need for this Activity is your TV. I have this set up on my remone. I Have two Activities, One is "Watch TV" and the other is "TV/Surround"
That is what I did also, but it was so long ago I honestly don't remember if there was an option for muting or unmuting the tv speakers. I'm thinking I have them set to come on at 0 volume for both activities & then just turn them up for the watch tv w/o surround activity. Not sure if I set that up throught the Harmony software or in the setup menu for the tv though

Sorry I posted this Reply in the wrong place....This was for provels post #5573. Will try again.

Sorry for the confusion....

Don't forget that you can edit your posts, which includes deleting them.:)

That is what I did also, but it was so long ago I honestly don't remember if there was an option for muting or unmuting the tv speakers. I'm thinking I have them set to come on at 0 volume for both activities & then just turn them up for the watch tv w/o surround activity. Not sure if I set that up throught the Harmony software or in the setup menu for the tv though

If the particular TV has the ability to shut off internal speakers, and there's a discrete code for such, then it could be programmed into the "Watch TV" activity to turn on the internal speakers at start-up and turn off the internal speakers upon exiting the activity.

You could also just turn the volume down every time you leave the "Watch TV" activity, either manually or via a command. Either way, if the TV is the only device in the activity, then it will be used for volume control.

Thank you for your recent inquiry about your Universal Remotes

Refurbished remotes are not necessarily used remotes. Sometimes, when a dealer has extra stock, Logitech recalls the products, puts all the technological improvements that came out while the products were on the shelf into the products, and use them for warranty replacements. This is, in fact, almost exclusively the way Logitech deals with warranty.

Thank you very much.

You do it through software.
Start the Harmony software
Select your "Watch TV" Activity. T
Click Settings
Click Setup Favorite Channels and then click Next
Enter your favorite channels. We find it very useful to have the logo's for each of our favorite channels/networks.

If you do a search you'll find collections of TV logos or TV icons. You may also be able to use your browser and save logos from the websites of the stations. If you need to resize them or convert them to jpg's for the Harmony you can do it easily with the free Irfanview software, or with most image processing software.

Once you've done that and updated your remote, pressing the Media button will display your favorite channels.

Bernie

Thanks Bernie!

Hi I searched quite a s**t load of pages, but I can't seem to find how to set up my favorite channels on the remote.

I have bell expressvu and a 9242pvr... When I press the media button nothing happens.. at all. Any ideas?

Thanks!

also look at http://www.iconharmony.com (http://www.iconharmony.com/) for a nice offering of 880 specific icons. squareeyes is a member here at AVS.

Do the Blu-ray player and AVR turn on properly with the activity? What happens when you go through the guided help on the remote? Do they turn off properly then? Do they turn on and off properly via the device menu on your 890? Are you using power toggles or discrete on and off commands? When you say, "All other activities turn on and turn off properly," do the BD player and AVR turn on / off properly with other activities?

I thought I had fixed the issue by deleting the activity and re-adding it, but that wasn't the case...

Anyways: Help sometimes works, Device menu always works, AVR always works in every other activity (don't use BD player in any other). I believe both devices use power toggles, but I'm not positive.

I thought I had fixed the issue by deleting the activity and re-adding it, but that wasn't the case...

Anyways: Help sometimes works, Device menu always works, AVR always works in every other activity (don't use BD player in any other). I believe both devices use power toggles, but I'm not positive.

I would first increase the Inter-Device Delay for the AVR to a much higher number to see if that does the trick. You could then back it down a bit to see where the sweet spot is. I understand the AVR works in other activities, but the Inter-Device delay (or the Inter-Key delay) could be causing issues only evident in this activity. Do the same for the Blu-ray player, but also check "Adjust power settings" to make sure it is set appropriately.

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Costco now has the Harmony 880 remote for $92. and change.

Costco now has the Harmony 880 remote for $92. and change.
I could not find the Harmony 880 on line at Costco. So it must be only at certain local Costco Warehouses. When you search Costco on line, the search comes up with "Item not found".

I could not find the Harmony 880 on line at Costco. So it must be only at certain local Costco Warehouses. When you search Costco on line, the search comes up with "Item not found".

exactly.. that's why I didn't post the price when I bought 2 of them two weeks ago from my local coscto. not all costco's have the same stock for the same price at the same time..

yes it was in my local NY store, never thought to check on line or other stores would not have it.

Thanks for that Costco tip, Santa Rosa store has a whole pallet of them. My 880 has seen better days, dropped dozens of times and had liquid spilled on it, some of the buttons don't work as they should... anyway, been putting off replacing it waiting for a good price. That Costco price was perfect.

Thanks for that Costco tip, Santa Rosa store has a whole pallet of them. My 880 has seen better days, dropped dozens of times and had liquid spilled on it, some of the buttons don't work as they should... anyway, been putting off replacing it waiting for a good price. That Costco price was perfect.
- I was going to buy another 880, but i have two of them that have button problems after 2 years of use. I think I may go with the One instead. Although, there's no guarantee that the One is any better when it comes to durability.

- I was going to buy another 880, but i have two of them that have button problems after 2 years of use. I think I may go with the One instead. Although, there's no guarantee that the One is any better when it comes to durability.

I'm not sure if my button problems are a design flaw or from my sometimes brutal use of the remote, a few times it was dropped and then something else dropped on top it, had at least one button become somewhat depressed in the casing and it's never been reliable since.

- I was going to buy another 880, but i have two of them that have button problems after 2 years of use. I think I may go with the One instead. Although, there's no guarantee that the One is any better when it comes to durability.

My 880 is several years old and still going strong - now handed down to my son. The only issue I ever had was that the last firmware update made screen colors look washed out.

I've had my One for almost a year and have yet to have single issue with it. If anything, the build quality seems to be better than the 880.

Hello. I have a Denon AVR-2309CI receiver. When I change the volume on the receiver, either with the Denon remote or the Harmony 880, the volume changes very slowly. You have to hold down the volume - or + button for quite a while before you notice any change. Even if you manually turn the volume dial on the receiver, you have to move it quite a way before you hear a change in volume.

Is it possible to have the Harmony 880 change the volume more quickly?



Thank you in advance.

Hello. I have a Denon AVR-2309CI receiver. When I change the volume on the receiver, either with the Denon remote or the Harmony 880, the volume changes very slowly. You have to hold down the volume - or + button for quite a while before you notice any change. Even if you manually turn the volume dial on the receiver, you have to move it quite a way before you hear a change in volume.

Is it possible to have the Harmony 880 change the volume more quickly?



Thank you in advance.

I have the Denon 1909, so basically have the same issue. The volume increments are rather small (1 dB), thus it takes a while to really advance the volume. If you hold down the volume (up or down), it moves fairly quickly. Since the original remote acts similarly, I'm not really sure what you can do. Perhaps someone else has played with the settings and come up with something, but I've become accustomed to it now and have actually come to appreciate the small, subtle volume changes.

Try one of these two settings for the Denon.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14708736#post14708736

"Device : Denon Denon AVR-3808CI (AVR-3808).

If you choose to add the updated device it will be added to your list of devices and any customizations you made to the existing device will be copied over to the updated one."

Huh?

What is that about? Anyone done this and did your customizations actually get copied? Like custom buttons, etc.?

"Device : Denon Denon AVR-3808CI (AVR-3808).

If you choose to add the updated device it will be added to your list of devices and any customizations you made to the existing device will be copied over to the updated one."

Huh?

What is that about? Anyone done this and did your customizations actually get copied? Like custom buttons, etc.?
- I usually just accept the update. It's usually newer codesets/missing commands. Your customizations should be the same.

What happens? Do you have a new device show up? Does it update the existing device listed that is being updated? Just curious.

Well I tried it. Did not save all my customizations. Lost a bunch of sequence assignments, custom button assignments, stuff like that.

Yes, it screwed up several settings on one of my TiVos, I had to go back and basically set up the device remote codes again. It's still not the way it should be, but it works.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad if there was a way to just print our current config so we can go back and reassign stuff, redo sequences, custom buttons, etc.

I don't understand why updating an existing device forced me, as you did, to basically redo any activities my receiver was part of. Talk about frustrating.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad if there was a way to just print our current config so we can go back and reassign stuff, redo sequences, custom buttons, etc.

I don't understand why updating an existing device forced me, as you did, to basically redo any activities my receiver was part of. Talk about frustrating.

FWIW, it is for these very reasons, that I have painstakingly gone through and taken screen shots of all settings, customizations, etc. in my devices and activities. It is a pain, but a lot less painful than remembering all those settings if something goes wrong.

Got my 880 today and so far it's really making things alot easier. It's doing everything as advertised I am very pleased. :)

"taken screen shots"

Yes. Would be nicer if there were a "Print" setup function in the software that would print out all settings, custom buttons, etc., for us.

"I am very pleased."

I have two. Have thought about picking another one up before they are gone. They are great tools and have an amazing flexibility. Once I got to the "Activity" mindset, starting customizing buttons, using little macros that Logitech calls "Sequences", the 880 integrated my home theater and integrated itself into my home theater in ways I never imagined.

well mu media button is already broken for good. I dropped the remote last night, too to violent of a hit compared to my past remotes, and now the media button won't work. Initially right after the drop, it was working but I could notice the screen flickered for 2-3 seconds when I switched between the pages of my favorites and then after about 10 minutes it didn't work anymore. I opened up the remote and press the metal contact for the media button and nope it doesn't work. I can definately here a loose part under the board. The tilt sensor still works fine the only button that is damaged is the meida button. Any suggestions?

well mu media button is already broken for good. I dropped the remote last night, too to violent of a hit compared to my past remotes, and now the media button won't work. Initially right after the drop, it was working but I could notice the screen flickered for 2-3 seconds when I switched between the pages of my favorites and then after about 10 minutes it didn't work anymore. I opened up the remote and press the metal contact for the media button and nope it doesn't work. I can definately here a loose part under the board. The tilt sensor still works fine the only button that is damaged is the meida button. Any suggestions?


My advice is to Quit Throwing your Remote at the Wall!

Political Commentary tends to cause these reactions.... :D

I have a different button that's developed a problem on one my 880's. The volume down button has become very unresponsive. All other commands work well, and when using the original Comcast DVR remote the volume down button works fine. On the Harmony you have to press it several times, hold and and aim it (from pretty close in) to get it to work.

Any suggestions on making the 880's volume down button more responsive? Or is it just worn out?

I have a different button that's developed a problem on one my 880's. The volume down button has become very unresponsive. All other commands work well, and when using the original Comcast DVR remote the volume down button works fine. On the Harmony you have to press it several times, hold and and aim it (from pretty close in) to get it to work.

Any suggestions on making the 880's volume down button more responsive? Or is it just worn out?

Do you have to press it hard to see the signal icon on the top of the LCD screen? If so, then it is wearing out. Some have had success taking the remote apart and putting a dab of glue (glue gun) on the contact. Others have simply assigned volume up and down to other keys. I tried the glue, but it only worked for a while, so I've now done the latter.

This remote seems pretty straight forward to me in regards to setting it up. However, I have added some new equipment and have tried to get the input function properly and it won't. (I removed a Toshiba HD CRT and added a Panasonic Plasma and Blu-ray.)

Here's what ths issue is: I should be able to go to whatever activity and the remote should set the proper Input on the TV for whatever device I'm connecting to. But it's always off. It should remember were it last was when turned off so when you go back to turn it on it should also be able to move to the correct input for the device needed. Very frustrating when using the remote. I'm going through the setup several times and everything looks to be fine but the remote is still not handling the input side correctly to change the TV to the input it needs to be on. So I'm always going through the Help to correct the Input and it never remembers even after walking through the Help process.

This remote seems pretty straight forward to me in regards to setting it up. However, I have added some new equipment and have tried to get the input function properly and it won't. (I removed a Toshiba HD CRT and added a Panasonic Plasma and Blu-ray.)

Here's what ths issue is: I should be able to go to whatever activity and the remote should set the proper Input on the TV for whatever device I'm connecting to. But it's always off. It should remember were it last was when turned off so when you go back to turn it on it should also be able to move to the correct input for the device needed. Very frustrating when using the remote. I'm going through the setup several times and everything looks to be fine but the remote is still not handling the input side correctly to change the TV to the input it needs to be on. So I'm always going through the Help to correct the Input and it never remembers even after walking through the Help process.

Probably a setup problem related to whether the TV skips devices that are not powered on, or some other variable related to whether our TV has direct commands for specifying an input or has to cycle through the inputs.

The easiest solution to a setup problem is often to call Logitech. They are very good.

I'm going through the setup several times and everything looks to be fine but the remote is still not handling the input side correctly to change the TV to the input it needs to be on. So I'm always going through the Help to correct the Input and it never remembers even after walking through the Help process.
- Check to see if your TV accepts discrete input commands. You can test the TV in Device mode. Look to see if there is a Video 1, etc. If it does, then just set up the Harmony to go directly to the input.

Probably a setup problem related to whether the TV skips devices that are not powered on, or some other variable related to whether our TV has direct commands for specifying an input or has to cycle through the inputs.

The easiest solution to a setup problem is often to call Logitech. They are very good.

After thinking a bit I find it odd that it the new equipment worked fine until I installed the new cables that I wanted to use. I made do with some RCA Composite cables until I the quality ones, an HDMI, optical, etc., showed up yesterday. This is when the problem started.

The TV does not skip an input if nothing is connected but it does cycle through one input at a time to get to the one you need. Plus, the TV remains at the last input when shut off and turned back on. The remote must not remember where it left off. It almost looks like timing but I've tried tweaking the delays for the remote and it's still wacky.

PO'd at this point. I'm confident this thing can do the job but now I cannot enjoy my new equipment with good cables, etc.

As for Logitech. Not sure about their support for remotes. When they were Harmony yet the were awesome. Now they want $30 just to talk to you. I'll hold off on that call for now.

- Check to see if your TV accepts discrete input commands. You can test the TV in Device mode. Look to see if there is a Video 1, etc. If it does, then just set up the Harmony to go directly to the input.

Explain discrete input commands. I'm not sure I'm clear here.

If I turn on TV (or whichever activity) and then hit Device and then go to TV all the input commands are there. Plus some that don't seem to belong. The TV itself will list:

TV
Component 1
Component 2
HDMI 1
HDMI 2
HDMI 3
Video 1
Video 2

The remote, when you hit Device for the TV shows:

Input
InputCompon (ent 1?)
InputCompon (ent 2?)
InputHDMI1
InputHDMI2
InputHDMI3
Input PC
Input Tuner
Input Video1
Input Video2
Input Video3
Input Video4

and various other controls.

Explain discrete input commands. I'm not sure I'm clear here.

If I turn on TV (or whichever activity) and then hit Device and then go to TV all the input commands are there. Plus some that don't seem to belong. The TV itself will list:

The remote, when you hit Device for the TV shows:

Input
InputCompon (ent 1?)
InputCompon (ent 2?)
InputHDMI1
InputHDMI2
InputHDMI3
Input PC
Input Tuner
Input Video1
Input Video2
Input Video3
Input Video4

and various other controls.
Discrete means it goes directly to that input. No toggling, no menu, etc. When you go into the device mode, what happens when you press Input HDMI1, InputHDMI2, etc.?

Discrete means it goes directly to that input. No toggling, no menu, etc. When you go into the device mode, what happens when you press Input HDMI1, InputHDMI2, etc.?

The remote that comes with the TV has an Input button. But that brings up all the Input devices:

TV
Component 1
Component 2
HDMI 1
HDMI 2
HDMI 3
Video 1
Video 2

Then keep pressing Input to get to the device you want. Wait a second and the item you stopped at is selected.

Or

Press Input, then use the Up or Down arrow keys to navigate and then press Ok to select the input.

That's what I know I can do. Thanks for clearing up discrete code. I thought it was for rare commands that you used but might want on the Harmony that only the original remote could do (which is kind of true I guess). But the remote that comes with the TV doesn't seem to use any discrete codes.

The remote that comes with the TV has an Input button. But that brings up all the Input devices (listed above). Then keep pressing Input to get to the device you want. Wait a second and the item you stopped at is selected.

Or

Press Input, then use the Up or Down arrow keys to navigate and then press Ok to select the input.

That's what I know I can do. Thanks for clearing up discrete code. I thought it was for rare commands that you used but might want on the Harmony that only the original remote could do (which is kind of true I guess). But the remote that comes with the TV doesn't seem to use any discrete codes.

It is quite common for a device to support discrete power and input commands but have an OE remote control that does not. If ANY of your devices support discrete power and input commands, it is always best to configure your Harmony to use them. Its just faster, more reliable and you don't have to worry about the remote staying in-sync with the devices.

That said, you may have another issue. You noted that your problem began when you started using HDMI cables. Many devices these days are HDMI-CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) capable... meaning that interconnected devices attempt to sort out correct inputs, power and transport control amongst themselves. With the new HDMI connection, they may now be "talking behind your back" or, more importantly, talking behind your remote's back... forcing things out of the sequence the remote is attempting to track.

CEC needs to be disabled when you use a programmable remote like the Harmony... different brands use different names for it... Anynet (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Theatre Sync (Sony); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); Simplink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, and VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).

Even if CEC does turn out to be your issue here, you still should be using discrete power and input commands wherever you can.

If I were to be able to get the discreet codes for the Inputs how would I get them into the 8800?

If I were to be able to get the discreet codes for the Inputs how would I get them into the 8800?

I just checked and the Harmony database for your display already contains the discrete input codes. As someone already suggested, the first thing to is go into device mode for your TV and determine if the commands such as InputHDMI1, InputComponent1, etc. function properly.

If they do function, all you need to do is go into Device Settings>Adjust Inputs and change the input selection method from Method 1 to Method 2.

If the commands do not work in device mode, then your TV model may not support them and you may not be able to use discrete input commands (Method 2).

Have you checked to see if CEC (Viera Link/EZ Sync) is disabled in your Panasonic devices?

[Edit: Had my ones and twos backwards... descriptions were correct. Sorry!]

I just checked and the Harmony database for your display already contains the discrete input codes. As someone already suggested, the first thing to is go into device mode for your TV and determine if the commands such as InputHDMI1, InputComponent1, etc. function properly.

If they do function, all you need to do is go into Device Settings>Adjust Inputs and change the input selection method from Method 2 to Method 1.

If the commands do not work in device mode, then your TV model may not support them and you may not be able to use discrete input commands (Method 1).

Have you checked to see if CEC (Viera Link/EZ Sync) is disabled in your Panasonic devices?

I told the 880 to play a Blu-ray DVD to turn on the needed equipment. It of course did not select the right input. I hit Device on the 880 and then selected InputHDMI1 and it went right to it! Tried InputHDMI2 and InputHDMI3 for good measure and the TV responded correctly. However, I've tried Method 1 and Method3 (never 2) and am back to Method one (for Adjust Inputs) and it this has not been working all along. Is there another step? Do I need to change the list of Source Inputs in the Device Setup? The Device Setup shows (for example) HDMI 1 not InputHDMI1, etc.

How do you disable CEC? According to jcalabria, if the discrete codes work this shouldn't be an issue. But...

It is quite common for a device to support discrete power and input commands but have an OE remote control that does not. If ANY of your devices support discrete power and input commands, it is always best to configure your Harmony to use them. Its just faster, more reliable and you don't have to worry about the remote staying in-sync with the devices.

That said, you may have another issue. You noted that your problem began when you started using HDMI cables. Many devices these days are HDMI-CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) capable... meaning that interconnected devices attempt to sort out correct inputs, power and transport control amongst themselves. With the new HDMI connection, they may now be "talking behind your back" or, more importantly, talking behind your remote's back... forcing things out of the sequence the remote is attempting to track.

CEC needs to be disabled when you use a programmable remote like the Harmony... different brands use different names for it... Anynet (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Theatre Sync (Sony); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); Simplink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, and VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).

Even if CEC does turn out to be your issue here, you still should be using discrete power and input commands wherever you can.

I think this may be an influence. Because I noticed when the wrong Input is selected for playing the Panasonic Blu-ray (HDMI 1) that if I tell it to go ahead and play the Input on the TV self corrects. I do have VIERA Link but not sure how to disable it. The discrete codes seem to be working but there seems to be something else I'm not getting right as well.

See post #5623 above.

I told the 880 to play a Blu-ray DVD to turn on the needed equipment. It of course did not select the right input. I hit Device on the 880 and then selected InputHDMI1 and it went right to it! Tried InputHDMI2 and InputHDMI3 for good measure and the TV responded correctly. However, I've tried Method 1 and Method3 (never 2) and am back to Method one (for Adjust Inputs) and it this has not been working all along. Is there another step? Do I need to change the list of Source Inputs in the Device Setup? The Device Setup shows (for example) HDMI 1 not InputHDMI1, etc.

How do you disable CEC? According to jcalabria, if the discrete codes work this shouldn't be an issue. But...

CEC being enabled can be an issue regardless of whether you use discrete commands or not. CEC should only be used in extremely simple systems... TV + player only, for example, in which case you would not use a third party remote at all.

If your BD60 is like my BD35... it's in the Setup > TV/Device Connection > HDMI Connection menu. Can't help with the TV menu... I'm sure its in the manual.

CEC being enabled is an issue regardless of whether you use discrete commands or not.

If your BD60 is like my BD35... it's in the Setup > TV/Device Connection > HDMI Connection menu. Can't help with the TV menu.

Okay, I apparently misunderstood you previously. So CEC (VIERAlink) needs to be disabled so it won't interfere with the Harmony 880 trying to set the correct Input. Correct? And the CEC needs to be turned off at the Panny TV and Blu-ray, correct?

Thanks

Okay, I apparently misunderstood you previously. So CEC (VIERAlink) needs to be disabled so it won't interfere with the Harmony 880 trying to set the correct Input. Correct? And the CEC needs to be turned off at the Panny TV and Blu-ray, correct?

Thanks

Yes & Yes

Yes & Yes

Done. However still having Input issues. Arghhh! I've even gone into the Customized Buttons -> Additional Buttons (where the discrete code items are listed) and renamed them to match HDMI 1 instead of InputHdmi1, etc. HDMI 1 still matches with InputHdmi1 of course. Thought this may help and thought it was but I'm still stuck.

It's got to be something simple I'm overlooking.

I don't get it. The discrete codes are listed under Device on the 880 but when using the activity it doesn't seem to pay any attention to them. Instead you see the Input options come up on the screen and then it makes a few changes down the list and stops. And, of course, it stops and the wrong input.

I don't get it. The discrete codes are listed under Device on the 880 but when using the activity it doesn't seem to pay any attention to them. Instead you see the Input options come up on the screen and then it makes a few changes down the list and stops. And, of course, it stops and the wrong input.

Just to make sure you set things up correctly. Method 2 is what you want for discrete inputs.

1. Go into Devices > Select the TV > Adjust Inputs > Method 2

Then go into the Activity and rerun the setup for each Activity. Make sure the Activity is selecting the correct input.

Just to make sure you set things up correctly. Method 2 is what you want for discrete inputs.

1. Go into Devices > Select the TV > Adjust Inputs > Method 2

Then go into the Activity and rerun the setup for each Activity. Make sure the Activity is selecting the correct input.

Was going between Method 1 and Method 2. Someone told me not to use Method 2 and I hadn't bothered with it. Had I given it some thought this would have made sense to choose. But when looking at the image for the update software for Method 2 I knew I had no buttons on the remote for each input. DUH! I didn't look at it as though they were listed in the menu. If I had I could have been sure to line up their discrete codes with the input the remote was going to send out.

I caved in and paid $29 for their support. If only I had got this email moments ago. LOL. Because this was the problem. I could not figure out how the discrete codes were lining up with software to tell the remote to use them. So when you selected watch Blu-ray it would know to go right to HDMI 1. The guy was very helpful and gave me a couple of other pointers.

First time I've ever paid for support! Almost had it.

The fix!

Here's the fix:
First, this had nothing to do with Delay Timings, etc
It was the "method" for inputs. I needed Method 2. The process was not real clear. Method 1 and Method 3 were clearly two options that would work with the TC-P42S1.
With Method 2 you use the discrete codes that Harmony has loaded so you don't have to mess with timing and navigating up and down to land on the input you need.

Also, it's nice to mute the TV so you don't hear it with the AV Recv'r in use when watching a movie or any setting when you want the audio set through the Recv'r. I found an issue where I used mute on the TV, say watching Blu-ray, but then if I went to watch TV activity I would have no sound as the TV remains on so the TV remains muted.

So to watch Blu-ray the send commands would be:

Panasonic Blu-ray Panasonic Blu-ray is on
Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is on
Marantz AV Receiver Marantz AV Receiver is on
Other All other devices are off
Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is set to "HDMI 1"
Marantz AV Receiver Marantz AV Receiver is set to "TV"
Panasonic TV "VolumeUp" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
Panasonic TV "VolumeDown" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
Panasonic TV "Mute" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
(Personally I don't see why the vol up/down before mute but the tech support guy recommended it and was obviously very good at what he does so I went with it. Apparently he wanted continuity.)

Now when going directly to TV activity from the Blu-ray activity above it would be:

Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is on
Other All other devices are off
Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is set to "TV"
Panasonic TV "VolumeUp" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
Panasonic TV "VolumeDown" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
-> this takes the TV out of the mute state since the TV was not turned off. (If you turn on your TV hit mute, turn off the TV and then back on you will have volume. It does not stay muted on this TV.) The reason for the up and down volume is to keep the volume static to where it was instead of raising it. Minor but the tech support guy was handling it so why not.

Of course you can simply hit up or down volume on the remote to bring the TV out of the mute state.

I posted this question on the panasonic v10 thread and thought I would post it here since this is the harmony thread.
Does anybody know if the harmony 880 remote will change the modes on the v10 from custom to game and so on. The way I have my remote setup is when you press directv it turns on everything to watch directv and when you press xbox 360 it turns off directv and turns on the xbox 360 what I want it to do is turn on directv and change mode to custom then when xbox 360 is turned on it changes the mode form custom to game mode. I've tried to setup it up that way but cant figure it out.

I posted this question on the panasonic v10 thread and thought I would post it here since this is the harmony thread.
Does anybody know if the harmony 880 remote will change the modes on the v10 from custom to game and so on. The way I have my remote setup is when you press directv it turns on everything to watch directv and when you press xbox 360 it turns off directv and turns on the xbox 360 what I want it to do is turn on directv and change mode to custom then when xbox 360 is turned on it changes the mode form custom to game mode. I've tried to setup it up that way but cant figure it out.

I think so. Try tinkering with the Logitech software to customize the remote. I've found that the 880 has descreet codes for the S1 so I can go right to specific inputs without having to pull up a menu and nav through all the choices. But simply go right to HDMI 1. So I'm thinking you can have the ability to change the TV mode -> Game. You'd need to go into the Logitech software and Customize Buttons and look at Additional Buttons (I think it's called, the tab next to Standard Buttons).

Sounds to me like you want to add a new activity giving it a name specific function and name. Like "Games" or whatever. Then add the devices you need and for what function they are to be used for like other activities. Doing this would get you in the direction to setup the function. Above it sounds like you have two separate activities that you probably want to keep but you have another you want for Gaming (at least with the Direct TV box).

I have a Samsung HT-TQ85 and when I try to change the volume using the hard button on the Harmony 1000 the volume level changes by 3 levels instead of 1. Could someone help me correct this? Thank you in advance.
Hi All, I'm grunching here. I don't know if it was covered off by anyone, but I've run into this same problem.

Edit:
I was able to figure out my sub menu issue with the HT-TQ85, though I'm not very happy with it. If people could suggest a better route I'd be happy. Essentially to get to toslink (digital), I have to press the Aux button 4 times on the original remote. I had to trick the 880 to go to usb first, and then go to aux and then switch aux type to digital. While it works, it takes forever!

But now I need my 880 to increase volume by 1 not 3.

I have another issue. I've got a mythtv back/front end running, and I told the 880 that I had a Hauppauge PVR150, and it works perfectly, minus a massive delay when I try to navigate the menus. The original remote is instant, but the 880 has such an annoying delay. Is there anyway I can fix this?

Please any help!

TIA!

I was able to figure out my sub menu issue with the HT-TQ85, but now I need my 880 to increase volume by 1 not 3.

If I understand you correctly I would make the change at the 880 to send out two addition Up Volume commands when it tells your equipment to turn on.


I have another issue. I've got a mythtv back/front end running, and I told the 880 that I had a Hauppauge PVR150, and it works perfectly, minus a massive delay when I try to navigate the menus. The original remote is instant, but the 880 has such an annoying delay. Is there anyway I can fix this?

You can change delays on the 880 as well. I believe you want to adjust the "Inter-Key Delay". I have mine set to 100ms. Some have changed it to 0 but Logitech supports does not recommend doing this.

Hi, I also edited my above post. If you could look at that, maybe you'd have another suggestion for my sub menu issue :)

My volume issue isn't when I turn on. It's for general volume usage - I explained it wrong previously, sorry.

When press the + for volume, I want it to go up by 1, not 3. When I press the - for volume, I want it to go down by 1 not 3.

For my mythbox, I've got all delays set to 0 and it's still sluggish :confused:

Edit:
I was able to figure out my sub menu issue with the HT-TQ85, though I'm not very happy with it. If people could suggest a better route I'd be happy. Essentially to get to toslink (digital), I have to press the Aux button 4 times on the original remote. I had to trick the 880 to go to usb first, and then go to aux and then switch aux type to digital. While it works, it takes forever!

But now I need my 880 to increase volume by 1 not 3.

I have another issue. I've got a mythtv back/front end running, and I told the 880 that I had a Hauppauge PVR150, and it works perfectly, minus a massive delay when I try to navigate the menus. The original remote is instant, but the 880 has such an annoying delay. Is there anyway I can fix this?

Odd that your volume is jumping 3 "clicks" instead of 1. Not sure what's going on there unless it's the fact you have it set to 0. Try 100ms. Harmony support was against anything being 0 due to issues it would cause. The delays are necessary for the equipment and remote communication. It's all timing. It's possible your remote is sending signals before the equipment is ready to receive it based on handling other commands.

You might want to drop the $29 for support. I did recently. I almost had my issue figured out and I don't like paying for support when I always figure things like this out. Often with help like here at this forum. But their help is good and they give you 5 days to call back on the issue. A guy named Pike was VERY good and very involved with the remotes and software. Something to consider.

As for the toslink issue I'm not sure I'm clear. Is your remote not using the correct input?

Hauppauge products use goofy IR signals. Try learning vol + and vol - command directly from the Hauppauge remote and see if the behavior is any different.

Hauppauge products use goofy IR signals. Try learning vol + and vol - command directly from the Hauppauge remote and see if the behavior is any different.

Excellent idea! The commands may very well be different.

Sounds more like a "Repeats" issue than a delay issue.

In the Harmony software, for the Device controlling volume, select:

Troubleshooting >
[Device] responds to some commands too many times... >
Choose a lower repeat setting >
Save
Hi, I also edited my above post. If you could look at that, maybe you'd have another suggestion for my sub menu issue :)

My volume issue isn't when I turn on. It's for general volume usage - I explained it wrong previously, sorry.

When press the + for volume, I want it to go up by 1, not 3. When I press the - for volume, I want it to go down by 1 not 3.

For my mythbox, I've got all delays set to 0 and it's still sluggish :confused:

Odd that your volume is jumping 3 "clicks" instead of 1. Not sure what's going on there unless it's the fact you have it set to 0. Try 100ms. Harmony support was against anything being 0 due to issues it would cause. The delays are necessary for the equipment and remote communication. It's all timing. It's possible your remote is sending signals before the equipment is ready to receive it based on handling other commands.

You might want to drop the $29 for support. I did recently. I almost had my issue figured out and I don't like paying for support when I always figure things like this out. Often with help like here at this forum. But their help is good and they give you 5 days to call back on the issue. A guy named Pike was VERY good and very involved with the remotes and software. Something to consider.

As for the toslink issue I'm not sure I'm clear. Is your remote not using the correct input?

Sounds more like a "Repeats" issue than a delay issue.

In the Harmony software, for the Device controlling volume, select:

Troubleshooting >
[Device] responds to some commands too many times... >
Choose a lower repeat setting >
Save


Nice.

Nice.

...and don't forget to update the remote!;)

ok, I almost have the receiver working right. if I quickly tap the +/- it will go up by one, if I press it longer it'll go up by two. The repeat is set to 0. Any other ideas? I'll try the relearning of the vol up/down.

the input problem is as follows: To get to digital (toslink), I need to hit the aux button on my original remote 4 times.
1) Aux 1
2) Aux 2
3) HDMI in
4) Digital In

When I program the 880 to go to "Aux Digital" it doesn't. I have to use the following sequence:

Input Type: USB - I don't know why I need this, but if I don't it won't work.
Input Type: AUX
Aux Input Type: Digital.

After the last line it will then send 4 IR commands and I'll see it cycle through Aux 1, 2, HDMI in and then end on Digital.

But because I have to have these codes, it takes a lot longer than I'd expect for it to change. Is there a better way to get to Aux Input Type Digital?

Yah, myth is still slow. I turned the repeat up to 5 (default is 3) and it just repeat twice. Maybe I'll try repeat 4 and see how it behaves.

Thanks for the help! Keep it coming, we'll get there eventually.

ok, I almost have the receiver working right. if I quickly tap the +/- it will go up by one, if I press it longer it'll go up by two. The repeat is set to 0. Any other ideas? I'll try the relearning of the vol up/down.

the input problem is as follows: To get to digital (toslink), I need to hit the aux button on my original remote 4 times.
1) Aux 1
2) Aux 2
3) HDMI in
4) Digital In

When I program the 880 to go to "Aux Digital" it doesn't. I have to use the following sequence:

Input Type: USB - I don't know why I need this, but if I don't it won't work.
Input Type: AUX
Aux Input Type: Digital.

After the last line it will then send 4 IR commands and I'll see it cycle through Aux 1, 2, HDMI in and then end on Digital.

But because I have to have these codes, it takes a lot longer than I'd expect for it to change. Is there a better way to get to Aux Input Type Digital?

Yah, myth is still slow. I turned the repeat up to 5 (default is 3) and it just repeat twice. Maybe I'll try repeat 4 and see how it behaves.

Thanks for the help! Keep it coming, we'll get there eventually.

I had similar issues. Knowing the discrete codes really helps. This way it can send one command for the input you need instead of several to navigate and then hoping to land on the right one (issues I ran into).

If you login to the Harmony software and under Activities choose the activity that has the issue (in my case it was watching Blu-ray using HDMI 1). Then customize buttons. Get into Learn Commands (you may need to scroll down to Optional Commands) and here you should see a variety of IR commands that your 880 can use with this device (TV, etc.). You may even see them on the previous page under the Additional Buttons tab. Look for the command called Digital (or very close). I would think it would be some command (the nomenclature that is) native to that device and its remote.

This will give you the name of the command that you need. You can actually rename it if necessary. I had HDMIinput1 and renamed it HDMI 1. Then I was able to add it to specific Activity. So instead of the inputs coming up and the 880 continuing to send commands to navigate to the right input the 880 sent the discrete code which puts you directly into the input you need (no input list will come up).

Then you can review the Activity and it would look something like:

Device Status / Actions
Panasonic Blu-ray Panasonic Blu-ray is on
Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is on
Marantz AV Receiver Marantz AV Receiver is on
Other All other devices are off
Panasonic TV Panasonic TV is set to "HDMI 1"
Marantz AV Receiver Marantz AV Receiver is set to "TV"
Panasonic TV "VolumeUp" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
Panasonic TV "VolumeDown" command is sent to the Panasonic TV
Panasonic TV "Mute" command is sent to the Panasonic TV

Hope this helps.

Excellent. Thanks. I will give this a shot tonight and report back!

Posted this in the Epson 720 Owners thread but thinking here is probably a better spot...

Anyone using the Harmony 880 or 890 remote and HDMI from an AV Receiver as input to their projector?

My Epson 720 projector is working great. But I just got the Harmony 890 (my second Harmony remote, love them!) and I'm having an issue I'm sure is related to HDMI sync.

I used to always turn on my projector first, a couple second delay, then my Pioneer Elite VSX01-TXH receiver. I'm using HDMI from the AVR HDMI out to feed the projector. I have BD, DVD, and HTPC HDMI inputs to the AVR.

The remote seems to turn the AVR and Projector on almost simultaneously. I get audio from the AVR, but no picture from the projector until I power cycle the remote. I think I need to put a couple second delay in for the start of the AVR, but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it yet.

Harmony has a "Power on delay" but I think that relates to how long between sending power on until sending the next command to a device. It also has an "inter-device" delay, but that relates to how long between sending IR commands to different devices, it is not a sequential delay geared toward startup.

Any ideas?

Posted this in the Epson 720 Owners thread but thinking here is probably a better spot...

Anyone using the Harmony 880 or 890 remote and HDMI from an AV Receiver as input to their projector?

My Epson 720 projector is working great. But I just got the Harmony 890 (my second Harmony remote, love them!) and I'm having an issue I'm sure is related to HDMI sync.

I used to always turn on my projector first, a couple second delay, then my Pioneer Elite VSX01-TXH receiver. I'm using HDMI from the AVR HDMI out to feed the projector. I have BD, DVD, and HTPC HDMI inputs to the AVR.

The remote seems to turn the AVR and Projector on almost simultaneously. I get audio from the AVR, but no picture from the projector until I power cycle the remote. I think I need to put a couple second delay in for the start of the AVR, but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it yet.

Harmony has a "Power on delay" but I think that relates to how long between sending power on until sending the next command to a device. It also has an "inter-device" delay, but that relates to how long between sending IR commands to different devices, it is not a sequential delay geared toward startup.

Any ideas?

I have a Panny PJ (PT-AE900U) and Denon 1909 AVR connected via HDMI. My activity powers in this order: a) device, b) Panny PJ, and c) AVR, so similar to you.

I'm not sure how the Inter-Device Delay reacts at start-up, but you could give it a try. If not, you could either try reordering the start-up of your devices or creating a dummy device that powers on between the PJ and AVR.

If not, you could either try reordering the start-up of your devices or creating a dummy device that powers on between the PJ and AVR.


Can you give me some pointers about how I could reorder them in the Harmony software? I didn't see any arrows or indicators on how to do that in the software.

More importantly, how would I create a dummy device? I believe the inter-device delay, though it sounds applicable, is intended for how IR reception works and isn't intended for delaying the startup of devices.

Can you give me some pointers about how I could reorder them in the Harmony software? I didn't see any arrows or indicators on how to do that in the software.

More importantly, how would I create a dummy device? I believe the inter-device delay, though it sounds applicable, is intended for how IR reception works and isn't intended for delaying the startup of devices.

For reordering devices within an activity, go to "Settings" > "Review the order in which devices are powered on" and you'll see the Up/Down arrows.

As for creating a dummy device, you are basically adding a simple device. It's usually best to not use an AVR or display device, rather a source - DVD player or otherwise. Once you have the device, then within Activities, go to the appropriate activity and then "Settings" > "Review the settings for this Activity" > "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity" and then under "Devices Not In Use" add the newly created dummy device. Using the "...powered on" option above, put the dummy device in between your PJ and AVR.

I would suggest you have the dummy device setup so there IS a power command, so that it will take a moment to send the dummy's power command.

If you haven't done so yet, you should first try reordering devices and then give the Inter-Device Delay change a try anyway.

^^ Wow! Thanks for the tips/instructions.

Reordering worked like a charm! My Activities were originally all ordered as follows:
1) source
2) proj
3) avr

By putting the source in the middle, and the proj first, HDMI sync is working fine now... probably adding a little delay between projector and avr turning on.

Thanks again!

^^ Wow! Thanks for the tips/instructions.

Reordering worked like a charm! My Activities were originally all ordered as follows:
1) source
2) proj
3) avr

By putting the source in the middle, and the proj first, HDMI sync is working fine now... probably adding a little delay between projector and avr turning on.

Thanks again!

Good to hear; enjoy. :)

so recently i had to make some changes to my set up. i removed my receiver. so now everything is connected to the tv. but when i choose and activity, it doesnt go to the correct input. it picks any other one that it wants for whatever reason. i changed the input lables on the harmony to match the tv (sharp 52 aquos). So for Input 8 it says "optimum". So when i click the help button it asks if the input is set to "optimum", i say no, then it cycles thru all the inputs asking the same question, until i get to optimum. But even after the set up wizard finishes, and i try the activity again, the same thing happens. any suggestions?

so recently i had to make some changes to my set up. i removed my receiver. so now everything is connected to the tv. but when i choose and activity, it doesnt go to the correct input. it picks any other one that it wants for whatever reason. i changed the input lables on the harmony to match the tv (sharp 52 aquos). So for Input 8 it says "optimum". So when i click the help button it asks if the input is set to "optimum", i say no, then it cycles thru all the inputs asking the same question, until i get to optimum. But even after the set up wizard finishes, and i try the activity again, the same thing happens. any suggestions?
If you are using a Sharp TV, then it should have discrete input commands. I know that my 52D85U does. Go into the Device setup for your TV and set the input selection to Method 2. You should not have to cycle through inputs at all, it should go directly to the specified input.

If you are using a Sharp TV, then it should have discrete input commands. I know that my 52D85U does. Go into the Device setup for your TV and set the input selection to Method 2. You should not have to cycle through inputs at all, it should go directly to the specified input.

thanks. i will try this

If you are using a Sharp TV, then it should have discrete input commands. I know that my 52D85U does. Go into the Device setup for your TV and set the input selection to Method 2. You should not have to cycle through inputs at all, it should go directly to the specified input.

this worked. thanks a lot.

this worked. thanks a lot.
- Glad to hear it worked out. :)

New Harmony remote. Is there a way to install the software on any other drive but C. It defaults there and leaves me with no option to install elsewhere. I don't install any software unless its OS related or driving a PC device.

Any help or links to older software that does allow install direction so that i can install it first then upgrade and keep same location would be greatly appreciated!

Just got the 880 so bear with me if this question has been asked - no I didnt read all 188+ pages sorry...

I have an activity setup the turns on TV, turns on cable box - no problem there. Is there a command I can add that will then switch the device to the cable box? Currently I am doing it manually by pushing device, then selecting cable box.

Thanks in advance

Just got the 880 so bear with me if this question has been asked - no I didnt read all 188+ pages sorry...

I have an activity setup the turns on TV, turns on cable box - no problem there. Is there a command I can add that will then switch the device to the cable box? Currently I am doing it manually by pushing device, then selecting cable box.

Thanks in advance

There should be no need to switch devices. Device mode should almost NEVER be needed or used... used only for the occasionally required setup or configuration command.

In your Activity you are free to customize the buttons (hard and soft) to be whatever combination of commands, from either device, that you need to meet your requirements. If there is a commonly used command missing in your Activity (that is making you want to jump into device mode)... just add it to the Activity using the customize buttons function in your Activity setup.

There should be no need to switch devices. Device mode should almost NEVER be needed or used... used only for the occasionally required setup or configuration command.

In your Activity you are free to customize the buttons (hard and soft) to be whatever combination of commands, from either device, that you need to meet your requirements. If there is a commonly used command missing in your Activity (that is making you want to jump into device mode)... just add it to the Activity using the customize buttons function in your Activity setup.

I don't think your following what I am saying or I am saying it wrong. Once the activity has finished, I want to use the remote to control my cable box so I have to hit the device button & then select PVR. That make sense??

I don't think your following what I am saying or I am saying it wrong. Once the activity has finished, I want to use the remote to control my cable box so I have to hit the device button & then select PVR. That make sense??

If, for whatever reason, you need to operate the box outside of any activity, then hitting Device/PVR would be how you do it. What/why, specifically, do you need to control on the box with everything else off?

If, for whatever reason, you need to operate the box outside of any activity, then hitting Device/PVR would be how you do it. What/why, specifically, do you need to control on the box with everything else off?

The tv & cable box will be on, so I need to change channels, control the DVR, etc...

The tv & cable box will be on, so I need to change channels, control the DVR, etc...

OK... That sounds like a normal "Watch TV" activity that you can customize as necessary. Whatever functions needed from either the TV or DVR can be added to to the Activity. Device mode should not be needed to control either device. What functions are forcing you to revert to Device mode?

OK... That sounds like a normal "Watch TV" activity that you can customize as necessary. Whatever functions needed from either the TV or DVR can be added to to the Activity. Device mode should not be needed to control either device. What functions are forcing you to revert to Device mode?

I will try it tonight without hitting the device, then pvr button & see since I am now wondering myself - :o

I will try it tonight without hitting the device, then pvr button & see since I am now wondering myself - :o

This all goes back to what's buried in the past pages. The Harmony remote is "Activity" based, not device based. You need to answer the set up questions carefully, sometimes lying. Like Yes my device has individual buttons for input 1 2 3 etc, even if the remote doesn't. Most devices have discrete commands and they are already in the Harmony database. As stated above you can fine tune the Activity with some extra commands in the editing process. Maybe a more obscure button is missing and you use it. You can assign it (learning if it's missing from the list) and place it in the LCD area or using a button that isn't needed. It's very configurable with a little tweaking. Good luck!

Just got the 880 so bear with me if this question has been asked - no I didnt read all 188+ pages sorry...

I have an activity setup the turns on TV, turns on cable box - no problem there. Is there a command I can add that will then switch the device to the cable box? Currently I am doing it manually by pushing device, then selecting cable box.

Thanks in advance
After reading your clarifications in later posts, the answer is simple. In the setup for the Watch DVR activity (or whatever you called it), you were asked which device controls the volume and you were asked which device changes channels. If you answered those questions correctly then you're all set. Whenever you choose Watch DVR the volume control will automatically adjust the volume using the device you specified (TV or DVR or Surround Sound system). The channel buttons will automatically control your DVR.

As others have said, you should (almost) never have to go to Device mode.

Just to add to this. Toss out the Device specific mentality. You're only going to make your Harmony experience unbearable. Think of an Activity as mixed mode remote, because that's what it is. After the Activity turns everything on and to the correct inputs, you're left with a remote that you can program anyway you want.

If you answered the questions correctly, you won't have to do too much. If not, simply go into the Activity setup and program the buttons to do what YOU want it to do. So if you want the volume buttons to control the receiver, make sure they are set that way. Same with the channel buttons. For any other commands that don't have hard buttons, simply program the LCD.

OK last night I played around with the remote. When I hit watch TV, (turns on tv, sets it to component, & turns on cable box) the remote controls the cable box like I want. When I hit TV/W surround (which should just turn on the Onkyo receiver since the tv/cable box was already on) it turns on the receiver, sets the tv to HDMI but then wont allow me to control the cable box or the receiver. So I tried adding some other commands such as turn volume up, still does not allow me to control a device. I will mess around with it some more this weekend when I have more time.

OK last night I played around with the remote. When I hit watch TV, (turns on tv, sets it to component, & turns on cable box) the remote controls the cable box like I want. When I hit TV/W surround (which should just turn on the Onkyo receiver since the tv/cable box was already on) it turns on the receiver, sets the tv to HDMI but then wont allow me to control the cable box or the receiver. So I tried adding some other commands such as turn volume up, still does not allow me to control a device. I will mess around with it some more this weekend when I have more time.
Sounds like you need to go back to setup and make a simple correction. For the TV/W Activity, adjust the settings to tell the Harmony that volume is controlled by the Onkyo device, and that channels are controlled by the cable box. Update your remote and you should be all set.

Bernie

OK last night I played around with the remote. When I hit watch TV, (turns on tv, sets it to component, & turns on cable box) the remote controls the cable box like I want. When I hit TV/W surround (which should just turn on the Onkyo receiver since the tv/cable box was already on) it turns on the receiver, sets the tv to HDMI but then wont allow me to control the cable box or the receiver. So I tried adding some other commands such as turn volume up, still does not allow me to control a device. I will mess around with it some more this weekend when I have more time.

Looks like you need to go back to Logitech & modify your setup to indicate which device you want to control the volume.

However, on my "watch tv" I only do tv & cable box(pvr). When I hit "watch tv" the 880 shows "A", "B", & "C" for 3 buttons & "list" on another. I've found that "list" gets me to my pvr to select my recordings to view or setup recordings, etc. The A, B, C are buttons related to the tv, cable & don't remember the 3rd "device"; I do know that selecting the letter for the tv I get the "menu" setting for my Panasonic plasma; believe there is a bug in the software as cannot get the tv to do connections "changes" for the tv's "tv/video" button on the tv remote.

If you have the receiver as a componet of the activity, then there should be another letter for the receiver; haven't checked/noticed when using the dvd player activity.

Still for volume, the setup would be the better method as my "pvr" is always at max & the volume is controlled by the tv; when I do dvd player or from the computer activity, the receiver controls the volume; all done via the setup of the 880 at Logitech.

Re battery problems: I had a low battery signal from the 880 & couldn't understand it & thought that it was the same problem some people have posted.

I remembered I placed my charger slightly differently on the tv cabinet stand in that the wire was "over" the tv stand leg to be "neat". Fiddled with the placement &, in my case, the 880 wasn't seated right for the charging the 880. So, I just placed the backend of the charger on tv stand so that the charger is tilted towards the front where the electrical contacts were. The 880 is now fully charged during the night! Am think of placing a couple toothpiks in the socket of the charger where the backend of the 880 seats....

I have 3 Harmony remotes including 2 880's and one of the 880's has recently given me problems. In addition to the common issue of not seating on the charger easily (takes a lot of fiddling) it also has become almost totally unresponsive to controlling the volume on my receiver. You have to be very close to it, point it directly and press it longer than normal to get the volume to go up or down. My Comcast and original receiver remote still work fine so it's definitely the Harmony that has lost its touch.

Any suggestions?

Maybe this has come up before, but this is now one long thread and I was not successful in the search mode, so I hope you all will bear with me.

I have a 3 year old 880 which has given good service (once replaced for the infamous charging issue) and does all its chores, replacing 9 remotes. I am having no battery or charging issues, 3 bars all the time. What has just begun to happen is that in the Full shut down mode (using the large chrome button) from TV viewing, the remote will shut off the TV, but not the Preamp/Processor, even aiming right at it from one foot away! The issue corrects with the trouble button each time, but this is a pain. Changing the timing setting (lowering) as recommended from the website does not help. I will say that this problem does not occur each time, but about 60% of the time which is really puzzling.
The processor is a McIntosh MX119 and is also not having any issues.

Anyone got any ideas?

Just joined the 880 club last night, I was in costco and they had a huge stack of them for less than $98.00. Seemed like a great deal. Just have to program this weekend.

I have 3 Harmony remotes including 2 880's and one of the 880's has recently given me problems. In addition to the common issue of not seating on the charger easily (takes a lot of fiddling) it also has become almost totally unresponsive to controlling the volume on my receiver. You have to be very close to it, point it directly and press it longer than normal to get the volume to go up or down. My Comcast and original receiver remote still work fine so it's definitely the Harmony that has lost its touch.

Any suggestions?

Call Logitech and tell them the problem and that you would like a price for out-of-warranty repair. They will tell you that they don't repair them. After you cry on them a bit they will offer you 50% off of a new remote.

Not too bad a deal considering that they can't fix it even if you are willing to pay.

Call Logitech and tell them the problem and that you would like a price for out-of-warranty repair. They will tell you that they don't repair them. After you cry on them a bit they will offer you 50% off of a new remote.

Not too bad a deal considering that they can't fix it even if you are willing to pay.

Thanks, I think I'll give that a shot. If they do offer 1/2 price then I'll compare that to Costco's $98 and make a decision.

For anyone who is still having problems with the charging cradle supplied by Logitech, I discovered the following solution while searching on amazon for a replacement battery.

It is called the "Harmony 880 890 720 Remote Battery w/Charger".

In addition to the battery you receive a charging unit which is just large enough to hold ther battery and plugs directly into a wall socket.

To use this method, you need two batteries and just switch them between the charging unit and the harmony whenever your battery runs low.

Since I started using this method in June of this year, I have never had problems with a battery charge.

Thanks, I think I'll give that a shot. If they do offer 1/2 price then I'll compare that to Costco's $98 and make a decision.

This is actually what happened to me when my 890's screen went out - I ended up getting a 900 for 50% off.

Call Logitech and tell them the problem and that you would like a price for out-of-warranty repair. They will tell you that they don't repair them. After you cry on them a bit they will offer you 50% off of a new remote.

Not too bad a deal considering that they can't fix it even if you are willing to pay.

Hey, your're right, i just did that w/ my harmony 880 (volume buttons don't work etc), and they offered me a 50% off coupon...got the Harmony One for $125 + tax.

I tried to get 2 at that price but they wouldn't give it to me :P

Thanks

Hey, your're right, i just did that w/ my harmony 880 (volume buttons don't work etc), and they offered me a 50% off coupon...got the Harmony One for $125 + tax.

I tried to get 2 at that price but they wouldn't give it to me :P

Thanks

Harmony did give me the 1/2 price off and I've decided to do the same as you - get the Harmony One for $125. Looks like more value for the money compared to the 880 at Costco for $98 + tax.

Thanks to TJ7 for the great tip -

How'd you get such a good deal on the Harmony One? I've talked to the tech with Harmony (Logitech) and this is the one they recommend.

How'd you get such a good deal on the Harmony One? I've talked to the tech with Harmony (Logitech) and this is the one they recommend.

See TJ7's post above.

I have a Motorola charger that charges my cell & bluetooth via the same type of mini-USB port like on the 880. Would it charge my 880? Any danger?

i like 880
thx

I have a Motorola charger that charges my cell & bluetooth via the same type of mini-USB port like on the 880. Would it charge my 880? Any danger?

Unfortunately it will not work. The mini-USB is for data communication between the Logitech software and the remote.

hello all,

I have an LG 60ps60 Tv, and a suround sound from a company you probably never hared of it called frisby (product code is Frisby FS-5011AC). but am having trubol finding the remote cod so i can have my LG control the sound on my frisby unit

thanks in advance for any input

hello all,

I have an LG 60ps60 Tv, and a suround sound from a company you probably never hared of it called frisby (product code is Frisby FS-5011AC). but am having trubol finding the remote cod so i can have my LG control the sound on my frisby unit

thanks in advance for any input

Im confused, you want the 880 to control the volume on the frisby? Do you have a remote for the frisby?? you can teach the 880 if you do...

Just joined the 880 club last night, I was in costco and they had a huge stack of them for less than $98.00. Seemed like a great deal. Just have to program this weekend.Did the same thing on Sunday. My set up includes:

Motorola DCT-6412 III HD STB/DVR
Samsung HL-S5086 DLP HDTV
Samsung DVD-VR330 VCR/DVD Recorder
Samsung BD-P1590 Bluray player
Sony STR-DG1000 AV Receiver
Sony CDP-CE275 5 disc CD player

So far, everything seems to work as advertised. Looks like I can eliminate all the individual remotes. :D :D

I picked up an 880 to replace an older Harmony model that had developed issues with certain buttons no longer functioning, or functioning only with numerous presses.

Plugged the new remote in to my computer after logging into the Logitech software, chose the option to upgrade my remote. About 5 minutes later I was in business with a fully functional 880.

Sure nice to have each button work as designed and especially nice not to have to reprogram everything from scratch.

So far everything works as advertised and I won't have to swap out batteries anymore.

Happy customer.

Hi, I connect the remote to the pc, I hear the sound that lets you know you've just connected something via usb, but nothing happens after that. it is neither recognized in "my computer" nor in the 'safely remove hardware'. Any ideas?

Hi, I connect the remote to the pc, I hear the sound that lets you know you've just connected something via usb, but nothing happens after that. it is neither recognized in "my computer" nor in the 'safely remove hardware'. Any ideas?

Does the software successfully update the remote? If so just unplug it when done.

Does the software successfully update the remote? If so just unplug it when done.

nope... on the lcd screen of the remote it just says usb connected, but nothing happens, I can't open my home page, nor make any changes to the remote.

nope... on the lcd screen of the remote it just says usb connected, but nothing happens, I can't open my home page, nor make any changes to the remote.
Can you start the software manually? Is it letting you make changes to your setup?

Some basic trouble shooting.

What OS?
Have you uninstalled reinstalled the Harmony software?
Did you download the newest version or use the CD?

Hi, I connect the remote to the pc, I hear the sound that lets you know you've just connected something via usb, but nothing happens after that. it is neither recognized in "my computer" nor in the 'safely remove hardware'. Any ideas?

Are you launching the software first? In other words, the 880 doesn't work in the way, say, a USB drive (or other device plugged into the USB) would. You launch the software, get everything set up, and then click on Update Remote. It is only then that you would have the 880 plugged in. It's okay to plug it in before, but don't expect anything to pop up. I hope that makes sense and is relevant.

Are you launching the software first? In other words, the 880 doesn't work in the way, say, a USB drive (or other device plugged into the USB) would. You launch the software, get everything set up, and then click on Update Remote. It is only then that you would have the 880 plugged in. It's okay to plug it in before, but don't expect anything to pop up. I hope that makes sense and is relevant.

Thanks! it did make sense and was completely relevant. I was sitting around waiting for the software to start on it's own and actually forgot the software was on my pc! Thought it would start up from the net (don't ask me why - I don't know! lol!).

Does anyone know where I can get an image resizer tool? The microsoft image sizer powertoy will not let me custom images to 64 x 32 when I click ok it brings it up to 64 x 34.

Thanks again! I got a bunch of images but I need to get Canadian ones now.

Thanks! it did make sense and was completely relevant. I was sitting around waiting for the software to start on it's own and actually forgot the software was on my pc! Thought it would start up from the net (don't ask me why - I don't know! lol!).

Does anyone know where I can get an image resizer tool? The microsoft image sizer powertoy will not let me custom images to 64 x 32 when I click ok it brings it up to 64 x 34.

Thanks again! I got a bunch of images but I need to get Canadian ones now.

and you have checked out www.iconharmony.com (http://www.iconharmony.com) ? right? Did you ask squareeyes (he's here) for some icons for Canada?

and you have checked out www.iconharmony.com (http://www.iconharmony.com) ? right? Did you ask squareeyes (he's here) for some icons for Canada?

yup, I tried last night and again just now... but the web page comes up as an error. I think it might be down.

If Squareeyes is around maybe he can fill me in?

yup, I tried last night and again just now... but the web page comes up as an error. I think it might be down.

If Squareeyes is around maybe he can fill me in?

I just tried it now, and it works fine for me.

yup, I tried last night and again just now... but the web page comes up as an error. I think it might be down.

If Squareeyes is around maybe he can fill me in?

Working for me now (it was down last night). http://www.iconharmony.com/icons/

Working for me now (it was down last night). http://www.iconharmony.com/icons/

that's weird, when I try it with firefox I get the "problem loading page - server not found" page, and on IE it redirects me to gateway...

any ideas?

that's weird, when I try it with firefox I get the "problem loading page - server not found" page, and on IE it redirects me to gateway...

any ideas?

try this:

http://75.126.155.202

try this:

http://75.126.155.202

worked like a charm. Thanks! now i just need to see if squareeyes can do some of the other canadian logos...

Thanks again for all the help.

I have a pio 141FD. Is there a way to program the harmony to switch the picture mode from pure to game?

Hi all,

Okay so I tried resizing icon images but it's not working. The images are not acceptable at all once I add them to the harmony 880. I live in Canada and have bell expressvu.

I'm looking for icons for all the sports channels in HD (golf channel, nfl ticket just to name a couple), and the icons for the rest of HD channels.

Can anyone help me out? Thanks.

Hi all,

Okay so I tried resizing icon images but it's not working. The images are not acceptable at all once I add them to the harmony 880. I live in Canada and have bell expressvu.

I'm looking for icons for all the sports channels in HD (golf channel, nfl ticket just to name a couple), and the icons for the rest of HD channels.

Can anyone help me out? Thanks.
You shouldn't need to resize any icons. If you've picked the icons for the 880 they will work on the 880. If you pick the icons for the One they will work on the One. But of ocurse if you have some image editing software, including the free Irfanview, you can edit any graphic images.

What is it that you're trying to do that isn't working?

You shouldn't need to resize any icons. If you've picked the icons for the 880 they will work on the 880. If you pick the icons for the One they will work on the One. But of ocurse if you have some image editing software, including the free Irfanview, you can edit any graphic images.

What is it that you're trying to do that isn't working?

I wasn't very clear in my previous post. Sorry about that. Actually, the icons worked perfectly on Square's site. I was referring to icons I find online that are too big.. when I try to resize it to 64x32 the pic isn't as good as the ones found on square's website (either the lettering is too small or it's blurry, or whatnot). Any ideas? I have a bunch of Canadian icons I found online and want to add as favorites.

I wasn't very clear in my previous post. Sorry about that. Actually, the icons worked perfectly on Square's site. I was referring to icons I find online that are too big.. when I try to resize it to 64x32 the pic isn't as good as the ones found on square's website (either the lettering is too small or it's blurry, or whatnot). Any ideas? I have a bunch of Canadian icons I found online and want to add as favorites.

Why don't you just send Randy (squareeyes) the links to all the graphics you found and let him massage them and get them up on iconharmony? That way all your brethren up North can partake of that Canadian goodness for their Harmonys too? He can easily make them cross platform so they work on all, not just the 880.

I wasn't very clear in my previous post. Sorry about that. Actually, the icons worked perfectly on Square's site. I was referring to icons I find online that are too big.. when I try to resize it to 64x32 the pic isn't as good as the ones found on square's website (either the lettering is too small or it's blurry, or whatnot). Any ideas? I have a bunch of Canadian icons I found online and want to add as favorites.
In the past he has asked for suggestions/requests to expand the library. At the top of the home page there is a link to send him files. You might zip the images that you need enhanced and submit them for his consideration.

Bernie

Why are the buttons number like a phone (2=abc etc)? I "searched this thread" but couldn't find the answer. It would be cool if it could also be a phone :)

Ken

try this:

http://75.126.155.202

Thanks for posting this link. I used them on my new Harmony One and they worked like a charm. This replaced one of my two 880's - the wife wore down the volume button to the point that it no longer worked. :rolleyes:

By the way the One is a real nice remote - like it much better due to button layout and feel, plus physically it's more attractive overall. Will use the other 880 until that one wears out.

Why are the buttons number like a phone (2=abc etc)? I "searched this thread" but couldn't find the answer. It would be cool if it could also be a phone :)
Ken


Some devices allow for a quicker word entry by pressing a number for a given letter. For example, CAT would be 2 2 8, just like texting. I just wish my TiVo HD had this feature. Having to navigate around an on-screen keyboard, particularly for long words, can be quite the pain. :(

Thanks for posting this link. I used them on my new Harmony One and they worked like a charm. This replaced one of my two 880's - the wife wore down the volume button to the point that it no longer worked. :rolleyes:

By the way the One is a real nice remote - like it much better due to button layout and feel, plus physically it's more attractive overall. Will use the other 880 until that one wears out.

Happy to help and glad it worked out for you. I would love to have a One, but I need the RF ability of the 890 (just like the 880, but has both IR and RF). The new 900 is the RF equivalent of the One, but $300+ is a little steep.

Happy to help and glad it worked out for you. I would love to have a One, but I need the RF ability of the 890 (just like the 880, but has both IR and RF). The new 900 is the RF equivalent of the One, but $300+ is a little steep.

Logitech did give me the 50% off deal, so I didn't mind spending the ~$130 or so for the One. Otherwise I probably would have purchased another 880 at Costco for $98 - anything over $200 for a remote would be a little steep for me too.

Logitech did give me the 50% off deal, so I didn't mind spending the ~$130 or so for the One. Otherwise I probably would have purchased another 880 at Costco for $98 - anything over $200 for a remote would be a little steep for me too.

Makes me wonder if they would offer the 50% off deal on a 900.. hmmm

Makes me wonder if they would offer the 50% off deal on a 900.. hmmm

I had my choice of any remote they make...did not need the RF.

I actually just called as well with my validation code for the 50% off and confirmed the 900 is an option. Price would be $200 plus tax and shipping.

Picked my 880 up off EBay for $69 with free shipping. Arrived with everything but the software disc, which I didn't need as I already had a Harmony that was being replaced.

For under $100 these things are great additions. When you get up to several hundred dollars for a remote, that seems to offset the value received. After all, it's just a remote that simplifies things.

I have an 880, purchased in July of 2008. The play button started messing up and you have to press it down rather hard to get it to respond. I emailed logitech and now they are sending me out a new remote for free. He stated it was out of warranty but would send it out any way, next time would have to charge. He also told me to dispose of it when the new one arrives. That seems like a waste, after all the remote works fine, it's just the play button that is a bit of a problem. He stated I could no longer program the old remote, but I am thinking there must be a way. Any one know of a way to program these things without having to log into their software? I never even had an issue with charging like a lot have had, and the battery still holds a charge pretty well. I imagine my new one will have these problems, it's just my luck. Any way, if anyone has any ideas on what to do with a still good, disabled Harmony 880, please let me know.


Also, are there icons out there for the different functions, or are they all just TV channels?

I'm on my third 880 due to failing buttons, and this one came with one button that never worked (the page right arrow) and now Guide and Play are starting to go. As great as warranty service has been (they shipped them out at no cost and didn't have to ship back old ones) this is just too much.

Anyone know if there are successor remotes like the One or whatever that I can buy and automagically pick up the settings from the software for my 880? I really don't want to go through all the hoops and tweaks I did all over again.

I'm on my third 880 due to failing buttons, and this one came with one button that never worked (the page right arrow) and now Guide and Play are starting to go. As great as warranty service has been (they shipped them out at no cost and didn't have to ship back old ones) this is just too much.

Anyone know if there are successor remotes like the One or whatever that I can buy and automagically pick up the settings from the software for my 880? I really don't want to go through all the hoops and tweaks I did all over again.

I believe you can transfer over your devices and activities, but your customized buttons and favorites won't transfer over.

You can replace your remote with a different model and the software will transfer your settings with no problem. I just did this moving to the 880 and it worked painlessly.

There is an option in the software to replace remote, or some similar wording.

Hey folks, I'm wondering if someone can help me with my 880 and a Creative IR receiver.

I have the IR receiver connected to my laptop, and want to program the 880 to play/pause/skip/etc for when I listen to music thru winamp.

the problem(s) I have is;

1. The creative CIMR-100 is not in the list of pre-programmed devices, or at least I can't find it. which leads to....

2. I don't have the original remote, so I can't teach my 880.

I did find this posting (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16389164#post16389164) that listed what appears to be the codes the CIMR100 uses. Is there any way I can use this to program the 880?

thanks in advance

You can replace your remote with a different model and the software will transfer your settings with no problem. I just did this moving to the 880 and it worked painlessly.

There is an option in the software to replace remote, or some similar wording.

Does that include transferring from the 880/890 to the One? What about the customized buttons? There are less per screen on the One than the 880.

Does that include transferring from the 880/890 to the One? What about the customized buttons? There are less per screen on the One than the 880.

From personal experience... the custom buttons and favorites do not transfer from an 880 replaced by a One.

Anyone know if there are successor remotes like the One or whatever that I can buy and automagically pick up the settings from the software for my 880?

I believe you can transfer over your devices and activities, but your customized buttons and favorites won't transfer over.

You can replace your remote with a different model and the software will transfer your settings with no problem. I just did this moving to the 880 and it worked painlessly.

Does that include transferring from the 880/890 to the One? What about the customized buttons? There are less per screen on the One than the 880.

From personal experience... the custom buttons and favorites do not transfer from an 880 replaced by a One.

Okay, just to bring this full circle for the OP, Snarler. It sounds like you can port over your devices and activities to the One, but the custom buttons and favorites will need to be redone.

I'm on my third 880 due to failing buttons, and this one came with one button that never worked (the page right arrow) and now Guide and Play are starting to go. As great as warranty service has been (they shipped them out at no cost and didn't have to ship back old ones) this is just too much.

Anyone know if there are successor remotes like the One or whatever that I can buy and automagically pick up the settings from the software for my 880? I really don't want to go through all the hoops and tweaks I did all over again.

Contact Harmony one more time and tell them of the massive buttons failure. If you're out of warranty they'll issue you a 50% off coupon. Get a One or 900 if you are inclined, stay away from the 800 series. That's what I tell anyone who'll listen. The 700 is OK but a step down from an 8xx in features.

Yeah I have another support claim in with them though beyond the automated "yes we hear you" response they haven't said anything in a few days. I even specifically indicated this was my third, having been sent two replacements after an initial defective purchase, and asking if there was any way to get a discount on a new model instead.

I agree with steering everyone away from the 800 series which is too bad because as a remote, it's wonderful and meets all my needs, aside from the whole buttons stop working thing :D

Been eyeballing the 900 series and the One to see if they have the feature set I want, but that's for another thread...

Stupid question...if they do issue some kind of discount like a half off code people have mentioned, I'm assuming that's only for their online store, where the prices are higher than other places, making the code much less valuable. As an example, the One is about 180 at a particular online store, and 250 from their website. Granted, 125 is still less than 180, but it still feels like a "bleah" kinda deal. Is it possible to use whatever they give somewhere else to get what I would consider a decent price on a device to replace three defective ones?

Stupid question...if they do issue some kind of discount like a half off code people have mentioned, I'm assuming that's only for their online store, where the prices are higher than other places, making the code much less valuable. As an example, the One is about 180 at a particular online store, and 250 from their website. Granted, 125 is still less than 180, but it still feels like a "bleah" kinda deal. Is it possible to use whatever they give somewhere else to get what I would consider a decent price on a device to replace three defective ones?

I don't believe you can use it elsewhere, but with the 50% off, it is about $50- $60 less through Logitech.

You get taken on the price, but at least you get a kiss at the end with the discount.

The iRobot vacuum people do the same thing. If one of their products breaks after the warranty period ends, they offer you 1/2 off another product that will likely break soon after the warranty expires too. Their prices reflect this discount, probably knowing that nobody in their right mind would buy from them at the full listed price.

You get taken on the price, but at least you get a kiss at the end with the discount.

The iRobot vacuum people do the same thing. If one of their products breaks after the warranty period ends, they offer you 1/2 off another product that will likely break soon after the warranty expires too. Their prices reflect this discount, probably knowing that nobody in their right mind would buy from them at the full listed price.

Well, I do realize there have been 880 issues, but I wouldn't want the lurkers out there to think all 880s have issues. My experience with the 880 has (and still is) far from "likely [to] break soon after the warranty..." :)

Well, I do realize there have been 880 issues, but I wouldn't want the lurkers out there to think all 880s have issues. My experience with the 880 has (and still is) far from "likely [to] break soon after the warranty..." :)
I can tell you from my sample size, it's not looking good. My first 880's LCD screen stopped working after 1 year. I had an extended warranty, so it was replaced. The replacement 880 that I received has button issues after 2 years of use. My upstairs 880 also has button issues after 2 years of use. I do use the remotes a lot, but for the price tag, I expect better. I still have 15 year old remotes for my Sony CRT that still work like new.

My other friend has an 880 that actually had buttons fall off after a year. My brother is on his second Harmony 360. The latest one simply reboots after a certain number of button presses.

If it wasn't for the ease of use and the great Activity feature, I would have switched a long time ago. I finally received an email from Logitech after informing them of my issue. I am going to send in the information that they requested (serial, PID, etc.) and see what becomes of this.

I can tell you from my sample size, it's not looking good. My first 880's LCD screen stopped working after 1 year. I had an extended warranty, so it was replaced. The replacement 880 that I received has button issues after 2 years of use. My upstairs 880 also has button issues after 2 years of use. I do use the remotes a lot, but for the price tag, I expect better. I still have 15 year old remotes for my Sony CRT that still work like new.

My other friend has an 880 that actually had buttons fall off after a year. My brother is on his second Harmony 360. The latest one simply reboots after a certain number of button presses.

If it wasn't for the ease of use and the great Activity feature, I would have switched a long time ago. I finally received an email from Logitech after informing them of my issue. I am going to send in the information that they requested (serial, PID, etc.) and see what becomes of this.

No, that doesn't sound good at all. I'm just so surprised you had that many issues. I did have the battery charging contact issue, but Logitech replaced my 880 (actually 890, but really the same remote) free of charge - well out of warranty, might I add.

I have had a bit of an issue with the volume control (up only) being harder to press, but took it apart and got it working fine again. I have dropped the remote a couple times and it's nearly three years old, so I'm overall pretty happy with mine, but perhaps I am in the minority.

That said, for the price (at least compared to other mainline consumer remotes), one would expect at least 3-5 years of use. The good thing is, it does some pretty incredible things for a fraction of the price of a high-level (and high-$) custom-installed/set up universal remote.

I have purchased two 880's, each about 3-4 years ago. One has been replaced out of warranty with a Harmony One (with the 50% off coupon), the other is still going strong with no issues. I really like the One, and am almost hoping the other 880 fails before Logitech's 50% discount program expires.

No, that doesn't sound good at all. I'm just so surprised you had that many issues. I did have the battery charging contact issue, but Logitech replaced my 880 (actually 890, but really the same remote) free of charge - well out of warranty, might I add.

I have had a bit of an issue with the volume control (up only) being harder to press, but took it apart and got it working fine again. I have dropped the remote a couple times and it's nearly three years old, so I'm overall pretty happy with mine, but perhaps I am in the minority.

That said, for the price (at least compared to other mainline consumer remotes), one would expect at least 3-5 years of use. The good thing is, it does some pretty incredible things for a fraction of the price of a high-level (and high-$) custom-installed/set up universal remote.
I don't think you're alone. Our 880 also continues to be fine after quite some time. And friends of ours have one that they stepped on, cracking the LCD screen. But it still works fine.

Looks like I'll still be in the Harmony club, probably the One. I was not able to get a hold of someone on the phone, so I simply put together a nice email saying that I was disappointed that the products were starting to have issues. Harmony's response. Note that it says valid for 2 remotes!

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Dear XXX,

Thank you for your recent inquiry about your Harmony Remote,

We are sorry to hear about your defective Harmony Remote. Your account information indicates that your remote is out of warranty and so we are unable to offer you a replacement unit.

Unfortunately, we will be unable to repair the remote.

If you would like to purchase a replacement remote, we are willing to offer you a special discount of 50% off any Harmony Model from our web store. Please contact our web store on 1-800-231-7717. They are open Mon - Fri 6 am - 6 pm (Pacific Time) Sat - Sun 7 am - 5 pm (Pacific Time) Closed on all US Holidays.

Please reference xxxxxx-xxxxxx to validate the discount. This incident is valid for the purcahse of two remotes at the above discount.

Let us know if you have any questions or concerns. Thank you.

If you would like further information and other tips on customizing your remote please visit the FAQ portion of your Harmony member website. To access, Click “Support”, then click “FAQ” while logged in your Harmony member page.

We hope that we were able to assist you in resolving this issue, however if you are still experiencing any difficulties with your Harmony Remote, please feel free to contact us again. Please click the link below for our support hours and contact information.

http://supportinfo.harmonyremote.com

Regards,

Harmony Technical Support

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Can I create two new accounts and use my old 880's? I know that I need to use my current accounts to migrate everything over.

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or if anyone has for prior series its my understanding they are very similar.

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or if anyone has for prior series its my understanding they are very similar.

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well, Basically I have remote control light switches and I would like them turned on when I power off all my devices. I must admit I havent done that much searching, but any help or tips would be appreciated.

well, Basically I have remote control light switches and I would like them turned on when I power off all my devices. I must admit I havent done that much searching, but any help or tips would be appreciated.

If they are IR controlled (I have an inexpensive X10 IR Controller that does the job - and is in the Harmony database), just add the IR controller to any and all of your activities. You can then add lighting commands to your Harmony startup and shutdown sequences... and you can also create a custom lighting control page and put it in each of your activities so that you have manual control of your lights from the remote as well. You can also do such things as create a sequence that combines your Bluray pause command and a LightsOn command, so that if you pause the player the lights come up as well.

If your particular switches are not in the database, you can either create a device from scratch and learn the commands from the OE remote (still adding the device to all your activities), or you can just learn their IR commands as additional commands for one of your devices that is already in your activities, such as your AVR.

I know how to do all that. I am sorry I wasnt more clear. I guess my question is, is there a way to literally add a command to the power off sequence? usually I power off all my devices as i leave the room, and its quite inconvenient to have the lights power off as well. So if you are able to do that, how do you do that?

I figured it out. For some reason last night I thought I would have to put some kind of a "lights up" command in the power off sequence. Forgetting I could just turn the lights up whenever I exited an activity. And then in the device tab turn the light controller to be always on rather than have it turned off when not in use. Thanks for your help anyways, I guess it just took me thinking about it a bit more to figure it out.

I know how to do all that. I am sorry I wasnt more clear. I guess my question is, is there a way to literally add a command to the power off sequence? usually I power off all my devices as i leave the room, and its quite inconvenient to have the lights power off as well. So if you are able to do that, how do you do that?

Yes, but it depends on the normal behavior you desire for the switches:

1) If under most circumstances you want them on, and only under certain circumstances you want them off, then it's best to go into Device > Settings > Adjust power settings, and select "I want to leave this device on all the time." You would then do as jcalabria stated by adding the device to each activity desired, and then insert a dedicated power off command upon entry and a dedicated power off command upon exit (see below for how to add the device and dedicated commands to the desired activities).

2) On the other hand, if under most circumstances, you want the lights left off, then you would choose "There are no power buttons on my current remote for my [device name]" under the Adjust power settings option. You would again then add the device to each activity desired, but insert a dedicated power on command upon entry and a dedicated power off command upon exit.

Just don't select "I want to turn off this device when not in use," as you would then have to insert an on command, but the device would first go off and then back on, which is a bit unorthodox.

To add the device to an activity and thus insert a dedicated on or off command, for the given activity, choose Settings > Review the settings for this Activity > Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this Activity > Devices Not in Use > [Add light switch] > Save > [cycle through menus until you get to the menu where you can "Add action for your light switch, and then "Add" the desired commands for the "when the Activity starts" and "when the Activity stops" options. You will need to have a dedicated power on and power off command to do this, although a toggle could work, too, but the lights may not do as desired if you also manually turn on or off the lights.

edit: you beat me to it, but you have the general idea.

I haven't seen this anywhere, maybe its in the manual, and i didn't see it or it may be tucked into a post somewhere, but I just got the 880 advanced with the extra display and sound buttons.

I see to get back into an activity from device mode, some try to hide the remote IR firing while getting back into an activity. I found that I could use the device button go from activity 1-> device choice-> device settings -> device choice - > activity 1 (back to the same activity) with the device button.

I haven't seen this anywhere, maybe its in the manual, and i didn't see it or it may be tucked into a post somewhere, but I just got the 880 advanced with the extra display and sound buttons.

I see to get back into an activity from device mode, some try to hide the remote IR firing while getting back into an activity. I found that I could use the device button go from activity 1-> device choice-> device settings -> device choice - > activity 1 (back to the same activity) with the device button.

I just picked up an 880 yesterday, to use in my HT room. I use a 720 in the family room. I'll check later on the 880, but on the 720, if you want to return to the current activity "mode" from a device mode, just hit activity twice: once gets you the activity menu, the second time refreshes to the current activity mode format.

Again, not sure if that works on the 880 without verifying...

And just so that I understand (not really relevant, I suspect): you have the 880 Pro model?

shinksma

I wrote:
I just picked up an 880 yesterday, to use in my HT room. I use a 720 in the family room. I'll check later on the 880, but on the 720, if you want to return to the current activity "mode" from a device mode, just hit activity twice: once gets you the activity menu, the second time refreshes to the current activity mode format.


And on page 4 of this thread, after browsing a bit more slowly, I find:

HardDrive,

I believe that if you press the "Activities" button twice that it will return you to the Activity that you were in when you went to the Device menu.

Just press the "Device" button twice.

Also:

I verified that both of these work. :D Thanks guys, very good to know about both.

HDD

So my post above was redundantly redundant.

shinksma

I just upgraded the software on my Apple TV. Now when I use my Harmony 890 Pro's arrow buttons, it frequently sends the command twice. For example, on the main menu page, across the top it has Movies, TV Shows, Music, Podcasts, etc. If I'm on Movies and I want to move to TV Shows, I hit the right arrow and it skips over TV Shows and moves to music. The only way for me to get it to stop on Music is to hit the right arrow and immediately hit the left arrow.

I have tried changing the sensitivity all the way down to 0 in the troubleshooting menu. Then I changed the interkey delay to 1500 and that did nothing. I can't imagine the delay setting are actually doing anything - it's clearly not waiting 1.5 seconds before sending the next command, otherwise I wouldn't be able to move back in the other direction immediately as I describe above, correct? Any idea how to counteract this in the setup? Appreciate your help.

By the way, I also had the harmony relearn the commands using the apple remote. Still have the problem of the Harmony navigating too fast (at least I think that's what the problem is).

thanks, appreciated. I have too much reading to do to solve too many A/V & automation issues.