It seems at this point that the forum should take the bull by the horns and clearly define what the parameters are for a movie to get top honors as a true bass-aholics movie. Otherwise, every tomdicinary will want to get in. I can't set the standards but I will say that they should be pretty high and rigorous. For instance

The number of bass heavy scenes

The length of the scenes

The lower frequency reached

for how long

SPL reached

How dynamic was it from the scene before

Did it wake your kids up? Nah...just kidding...of course it doesn't say much about the movie if they SLEPT through it though:>)


How about LOTS of red below 30hz!! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605496) :D :D :D

By the way, the intro music to Inside Man has some really deep bass in it. It sounds like one of those huge drums. Cool stuff.

Hills have eyes a very good movie?? I seen the original.. just curious

I think it's the best I've ever seen of that particular genre. It's sort of the "Texas Chainsaw" genre, meaning insane, cannibalistic, killer mutant-types who prey on innocent folks.

Oh boy...I just saw the WORST movie of my life! I know this thread is for movies that don't suck, but I just had to warn everyone: "THE CAVERN" sucked big time! I was in the mood to watch a horror flick on Friday, so I found this movie along with "The Cave" two for one at WalMart. This movie had bass...but all the bass in the world couldn't save this movie. STAY AWAY FROM THIS MOVIE! Not even worth Netflix'ing, not even worth borrowing from a friend...

of course now....everyones going to want to see it

People have mentioned this before, but we watched The Matador last week. It was one of our favorites in a long time, with great dark/black humor, great performances by Brosnan and Kinnear, and an overall great movie.

But there are a number of scenes with great bass (car & tree).


I saw it in the theater and watched part of the DVD last night, but the song in the beginning of Inside Man (very good movie) has some very low bass that I was feeling in the couch at about -12RL.

How about LOTS of red below 30hz!! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605496) :D :D :D

yeah....Kweezr gets kinda dangerous with those graphs :D.

By the way, the intro music to Inside Man has some really deep bass in it. It sounds like one of those huge drums. Cool stuff.

just saw it last night....good stuff. Will probably buy it. The Indie hip hop at the beginning was nice....and new for Spike.

yeah....Kweezr gets kinda dangerous with those graphs :D.

Wait till you see the ones I did this weekend!

I'm sure it'll be an action packed fun filled adventure:>)

It's not for the screamish, very brutal and graphic.

Yeah I'm gonna get the Hills Have eyes. My daughter wants to watch a scary move late then go in the bad yard and roast mashmellows in the fire pit . My back yard is full or spooky trees and critters. They'll have fun. They are teenagers so they can handle it.

Fast and The Furious series.

:p

I watched "Batman Begins" last nigh. Y'all are right, I was feeling the SVS. :)

I just got my surround speakers put in, is there a list of "surround effect movies that don't suck" that would demo what these puppies can do? Sorry to thread drift.

I watched "Batman Begins" last nigh. Y'all are right, I was feeling the SVS. :)

I just got my surround speakers put in, is there a list of "surround effect movies that don't suck" that would demo what these puppies can do? Sorry to thread drift.


It would be easier to list "action movies with sound effects that should rock but actually suck." Take your pick of any good action movie.

But some of my favorites are House of Flying Daggers, Master & Commander, The Incredibles, Saving Private Ryan, LOTR, Mr & Mrs Smith, Kill Bill, and so on.

... is there a list of "surround effect movies that don't suck" that would demo what these puppies can do? Sorry to thread drift.
You're right. It is a different subject. ;) I don't know of any lists, per se, but you could try this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=656705) for some ideas.

This one (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641661) and this one (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=683459) should help, too. Good bass movies always seem to get a preference in these discussions.

Personally, I'd put House of Flying Daggers at the top for dazzling surround effects, especially the gong scene. Saving Private Ryan is another personal choice.

I have seen both inside man and running scared in the last week--both of which have been mentioned in here. Neither especially blew me away--from a movie nor bass standpoint. Both decent enough, but not great at either. Running scared kept getting talked about the bass at the strip club--rather un impressive club music--very typical house music beats up around 35-40hz or so--no biggy. the explosion towards the end shook the room up a bit, but it only lasted a second or two and that was about it for bass.

Running scared kept getting talked about the bass at the strip club--rather un impressive club music--very typical house music beats up around 35-40hz or so--no biggy.

FWIW most of the output in that scene is between 18-30hz (it's actually lower & louder than the garage scene) and the initial gun fight dips below 10hz.

I had nothing else to rent and ended up with Net 2.0 - Obviously not the best movie, (wasn't the worst either) but it had a ton of deep bass. I really didn't expected it.

I don't doubt that it is there, and I am a little surprised to find out that it is that low, which again I don't doubt. But I just didn't get much from it. It sounded and felt like typical club music or any other bass line from just about any of the crap on today's "pop" of "hit" music stations. It just wasn't an overwhelming or even memorable bass scene on my system. It isn't anything like the "Cold" on The Haunting, or any other classic bass scene which is very obvious and extremely powerful--I just didn't get much of anything from that scene.

sooooo bsheldon....can we gather then that you didn't get anything from that scene?:>)

I don't doubt that it is there, and I am a little surprised to find out that it is that low, which again I don't doubt. But I just didn't get much from it. It sounded and felt like typical club music or any other bass line from just about any of the crap on today's "pop" of "hit" music stations. It just wasn't an overwhelming or even memorable bass scene on my system. It isn't anything like the "Cold" on The Haunting, or any other classic bass scene which is very obvious and extremely powerful--I just didn't get much of anything from that scene.

I don't think it was from the background music. I will have to listen again, but I recall some very low ambiance tone that started as soon as they entered the club. But as I recall, it was an LFE effect, not the music.

Just saw "War of the Worlds" yesterday, mainly to hear how the S12 would do with the LFE. I was quite happy...with the Mirage that is. The movie absolutely sucks. Now I remember why I usually DON'T watch this kind of big-budget Hollywood FX crapola.

Lousy acting (pretty pathetic when a little 11 year old girl upstages the entire cast :eek: ), moronic dialogue/script, ugh I could barely sit through it. Suddenly made me wish I had some good leaf even though I haven't lit up in years and years.

So, am looking for suggestions of subwoofer-intensive flicks that have more than a half dozen brain cells to them.

The last good LFE flick I saw was "Master and Commander," "Lord of the Rings," "The Incredibles" and "Hero." Surely there must be more?


I hated War of the Worlds, I found the girl to be ore annoying then Cruise and that takes a lot...all she did was scream



U571 is one of the best if not the best movies for a sub, the depth charge scene with one after another exploding was just incredible...when the first sub gets hit with a torpedo makes you feel like you are being hit in the face...to top it off its also a good movie

I just ordered a pair of Martin Logan Abyss subs and cant wait to hear how this movie sounds through them...its even better in HD

skyhigh

I hated War of the Worlds, I found the girl to be ore annoying then Cruise and that takes a lot...all she did was scream



It's a darn shame too, because the young girl, (Dakota Fanning), is actually a very good young actress. Unfortunately, the story line and script of WOTW sucked rotten eggs. It rated up there with Event Horizons, which was basically an excercise in disgust. They should have stuck with the original storyline.

My favorite sub movie is (dances with wolves) the horseback scenes are awsome, not to mention the buffalo stampede scene. Also in the beginning when he trys to kill him self and gallops across the shooting range. The bullets shoot by from front to rear as good as any other movie. (dts a must)!!!

my .02 cents.

It's a darn shame too, because the young girl, (Dakota Fanning), is actually a very good young actress. Unfortunately, the story line and script of WOTW sucked rotten eggs. It rated up there with Event Horizons, which was basically an excercise in disgust. They should have stuck with the original storyline.

Event Horizon is better than WOTW, IMO (not talking about bass, of course).

Fast and The Furious series.

:p

Why do we keep getting suggestions for TERRIBLE movies?

Why do we keep getting suggestions for TERRIBLE movies?
I've asked myself the same question.

Part of the answer is because not everyone thinks they are bad. Some people even like them... a lot. :rolleyes:

Almost all movies seem have a few fans. Even the current leader of IMDb's bottom 100, Phat Girlz, managed to find 16% of the voters who gave it a perfect 10 (overall, it got a 1.8). Number two on this dubious distinction list, Troll 2 (also a 1.8), got 12% 10's as did number three, From Justin to Kelly.

Even the infamous Gigli (2.3 overall) managed 6%! That's 935 voters who gave Gigli their highest rating! :eek:

There really is no accounting for taste. ;)

anyone been to SoaP yet?

I expect that will have some respectable LFE...

is there a release date on the DVD yet? :)

For Das Boot, which version is better? The Director's Cut (with original 5 hour film) or the SuperBit version?

...as did number three, From Justin to Kelly.

GAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :eek:

The only good thing to come out of that movie is that I can remind my daughter that I was there with her on opening day, the only ones in line, when I'm trying to get her to go get me a soda from downstairs. :D

...I can remind my daughter that I was there with her on opening day, the only ones in line...
That has to qualify you for nomination for some kind of "Father of the Year" award! :D

It's a darn shame too, because the young girl, (Dakota Fanning), is actually a very good young actress. Unfortunately, the story line and script of WOTW sucked rotten eggs. It rated up there with Event Horizons, which was basically an excercise in disgust. They should have stuck with the original storyline.


War of the Worlds was actually worse then A.I. which I thought was going to be impossible to do...Vanilla Sky is right there too but seeing Penelope Cruz saved it from being downright awful

I hate the fact that I will end up buying MI3 in HD when its released



Spiderman 2 is another good movie for a sub...think i might have to put that in tomorrow night

War of the Worlds was actually worse then A.I. which I thought was going to be impossible to do...Vanilla Sky is right there too but seeing Penelope Cruz saved it from being downright awful

Spiderman 2 is another good movie for a sub...think i might have to put that in
tomorrow night

Yeah I think WoW is probably one of the worst movies of all time. I would not sit through 2 hours of that crap to enjoy maybe 10 minutes of nice LFE again.

The original Spanish movie, "Abre los ojos" (Open Your Eyes) that "Vanilla Sky" is a remake of, is far far better. And you won't have to give up the yummy Ms. Cruz, she stars in that one too! :D

Couldn't stand either of the Spidey movies. How in the hell they could cast such an annoying and blah-looking girl like Kirsten Dunst to play Mary Jane just boggles the mind and the computer animation really looks like crap.

Unleashed, another disc that digs down low

Couldn't stand either of the Spidey movies. How in the hell they could cast such an annoying and blah-looking girl like Kirsten Dunst to play Mary Jane just boggles the mind and the computer animation really looks like crap.

I hear ya on that!!! HOW DID KRISTEN DUNST get that part as MJ?!?! In the comic book, she was HOT!...total disappointment. But I'll admit, I always get excited when I hear about the next Spiderman flick. Can't wait for number 3...black suit meaning the coming of Venom! That should be good.

It goes against the title of this thread, but The Matador had some great, shocking moments of bass. Unfortunately, I gave the move a 1-star on Netflix.

Watched "V for vendetta" last weekend.

I hadnt heard of this movie before watching it.V was better then I expected,although not great by any means.
Some of the scenes,including the building blowup in the beginning dug deep.Over cooked bass maybe,but some nice deep bass.

Yeah I think WoW is probably one of the worst movies of all time.

If you honestly believe that you really need to watch more movies.

WoW was hardly a highpoint of filmmaking but there are thousands of worse films out there.

While it's no Casablanca it's certainly no Ator: The Fighting Eagle either (which is the worst film I've actually seen in the theater).

Wow...lots of hating on WOTW in here. It was no great film or anything but I didn't think it was all that bad. It kept me entertained for a couple hours and I watched it again when it came on HBO HD. Decent flick IMHO.

WOTW was decent when neither one of his kids were in the shot. They are what really drag the movie down.

For once it wasn't TC. :D

I liked WotW well enough, too. I saw it in a theater as well as on DVD. As others have said, it wasn't a classic, but it was entertaining.

I could tolerate the daughter, but couldn't abide the son. I didn't like the ending to begin with, but it became even worse for me upon "discovering" that the son wasn't dead after all. :p

You know who bugged the heck outta me in WOTW? Spielberg. Gah!

If you haven't seen final destination 3 that one has some great LFE. shakes my projector and curtains not turned up much either.

While it's no Casablanca it's no Ator: The Fighting Eagle either (which is the worst film I've actually seen in the theater).

maybe so, I haven't seen this "Ator" movie you're talking about. :D

maybe so, I haven't seen this "Ator" movie you're talking about. :D

You siree should count your blessings. ;)

Watched "Shaun of the Dead" today and was pretty surprised at the bass, not just volume but they also use it in some places where you wouldn't expect any.

I don't recall seeing it here yet, but "Phantom of the Opera (2004)" has quite a few good bass scenes in it. The best is the beginning of Chapter 2 where the chandelier is uncovered at the auction with a good punch then pipe organs follow. Also, the low rumbling before each appearance of the Phantom is a pretty good sub workout. The movie is quite impressive with a decent sound system, particularly the vocals.

Jurassic Park has been mentioned before, but not lately. Just watched the dts version for the first time since I got my Buttkicker, which lived up to its name. It woke the SVS. Good surround mix, too.

I could sit through WOW. I have only done so once, and rewatched/relistened/reFELT ch4 and ch5 about a dozen times though.

I am glad to see others thought the spidey movies sucked also. I could make it through the first one for the most part, but man did some of the CGI suck out loud in that. Especially the scene when is running on top of the buildings leaping from one to the next. I felt like I was watching a super mario bothers clip--just terrible. Then all I ever heard about the movie was how well done the special effects were---crap if you ask me. The second one was way worse from a movie standpoint. I was given it for a christmas present at our gift exchange at work--I asked for Kill Bill I or Kill Bill II or a Gift card to Home Depot and that is what I got--a crappy movie I had no interest in seeing in the first place and on top of that it was a damn full screen chopped up version--aweful. Needless to say that got traded in.

I have never seen ATOR, but I did suffer through "The Brown Bunny" at a theater. If anyone has insomnia--this will cure it. Unbelievable. 2 1/2 hours of looking out the windshield of a van through a crappy hanicam and a 2 minute BJ scene. Snorefest. I can't beleive it was made.

Shaun of the Dead is a funny movie, I haven't seen it on my "system" so I can't comment on the bass, but I bet there is a bunch with all the beatings, gunshots etc that take place.

I really want to watch final destination 3, as a buddy of mine has been raving about it for a few weeks now. I really liked the first two--despite a few holes and leaps in the story and some decent acting at best. But overall, I greatly enjoyed the movies. I was thrilled when I first saw the preview for the third one over a year ago, but immediately knew watching it was going to be tough. My girlfriend and I have gotten into roller coasters over the last 2 years and there is no way I want her to watch this movie. I am afraid she will never go on one with me again. It is bad enough to get her on the likes of Top thrill Dragster and Son of Beast, not to mention some of the half rotten older woodies or partly rusted older steel coasters. I just told her about the accident that took place a few months ago on Son of Beast last week and she about freaked. I really want to see it, but am going to have to do so without her. The wrecked scene on final destination 2 is one of my favorite scenes of any movie.

Plan 9 From outer space.

Great film.

Seriously, what's going on with this thread! I'll bet if I make a thread for subwoofer movies that DO suck, everyone will recommend great films.

Final Destination?
Shaun of the Dead?

come on!

Again, not everyone thinks (insert-name-of-film-you-hate-here) is bad. Every film has at least a few fans. Because of that, the thread's title premise was doomed from the start.

Even Ed Woods' "classic" got nearly 1600 tens (16%) at IMDb. Of course, that's probably because there are so many of us who enjoy laughing at it. :p

Even so, I think this tread has come up with enough good, serious suggestions to make it worthwhile.

I agree...just from subscribing from this thread 3 weeks ago has me searching and buying titles like crazy. Just last Friday alone, I came home with 10 dvds...only got through 3 of them over the weekend though ;) There are some movies here that I know I won't like, but if I'm on the fence with a title and I see a "It's OK"...I figure I might as well give it a try, and run off to the closest video store.

Plus, without this thread, I might actually have to start doing some real work here at work.

BTW, Hollywood Video is having a pretty good deal on their Used DVDs:
Buy 5 for $20 (all their 7.99 dvds)
Buy 3 for $25 (all their 9.99 dvds)

I really want to watch final destination 3, as a buddy of mine has been raving about it for a few weeks now. I really liked the first two--despite a few holes and leaps in the story and some decent acting at best. But overall, I greatly enjoyed the movies. I was thrilled when I first saw the preview for the third one over a year ago, but immediately knew watching it was going to be tough. My girlfriend and I have gotten into roller coasters over the last 2 years and there is no way I want her to watch this movie. I am afraid she will never go on one with me again. It is bad enough to get her on the likes of Top thrill Dragster and Son of Beast, not to mention some of the half rotten older woodies or partly rusted older steel coasters. I just told her about the accident that took place a few months ago on Son of Beast last week and she about freaked. I really want to see it, but am going to have to do so without her. The wrecked scene on final destination 2 is one of my favorite scenes of any movie.
There was nothing, bass wise, in FD3 like in FD2. The story is the same. I liked 2 much better.

Just saw "War of the Worlds" yesterday, mainly to hear how the S12 would do with the LFE. I was quite happy...with the Mirage that is. The movie absolutely sucks. Now I remember why I usually DON'T watch this kind of big-budget Hollywood FX crapola.

Lousy acting (pretty pathetic when a little 11 year old girl upstages the entire cast :eek: ), moronic dialogue/script, ugh I could barely sit through it. Suddenly made me wish I had some good leaf even though I haven't lit up in years and years.

So, am looking for suggestions of subwoofer-intensive flicks that have more than a half dozen brain cells to them.

The last good LFE flick I saw was "Master and Commander," "Lord of the Rings," "The Incredibles" and "Hero." Surely there must be more?

The movie was great!...You are a moron.

The movie was great!...You are a moron.

Must you be so nasty? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I didn't like it either. :p

The movie was great!...You are a moron.

So much love in this room :confused: :confused: :confused:

The movie was great!...You are a moron.


LOL say no more, you've just certified yourself... :D

Just got done watching Silent Hill. Movie was disturbing (WAY FRICKIN COOL) but the horror special effects were artistically done. The movie had loads of bass throughout and many scenes with surround effects also. If you like horror flicks with great sound check it out!

There was nothing, bass wise, in FD3 like in FD2. The story is the same. I liked 2 much better.

Ditto . Beginning of chapter 2 on FD3 has deep deep bass .

LOL say no more, you've just certified yourself... :D

I must be a quasi moron since I thought it did have a couple of good scenes surrounded with a whole lot of blech...

;)

Just watched Poseidon it had more than a few good LFE moments.

Silent Hill was pretty good untill the ending. Tons of infrasonic bass, check out the waterfall
thread if want to see how much.

What ever happened to the DVD's with house crumbling bass thread? :confused:

Ian :D

What ever happened to the DVD's with house crumbling bass thread? :confused:

Ian :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=505286

What ever happened to the DVD's with house crumbling bass thread? :confused:

Ian :D

Just saw "The Matador" last night. The movie was ok...but the BASS was great! The scene where the car explodes and the following scene with the thunderstorm shook the house. Never felt the house shake like that before...that will definitely be the demo I'll be using to show off my HT.

The scene where the car explodes and the following scene with the thunderstorm shook the house.

Those early scenes were both definitely in the "surprises that make you jump" category!

kweezr - Any chance we can get those added to the waterfall thread?

I was expecting the car, but the "tree" nearly scared the $#it out of us. :D

I was expecting the car, but the "tree" nearly scared the $#it out of us. :D

Agreed! The car was still a bit more then I was expecting however the first lightening strike was the one that got me to utter profanities. lol

Constant Gardener. Very interesting film with some excellent LFE and some great music. Sobering moving story that grabs you more as you get into it. Some awesome african drum music with incredible presence.

Those early scenes were both definitely in the "surprises that make you jump" category!

kweezr - Any chance we can get those added to the waterfall thread?

Haven't seen it, I'll rent it tomorrow.

kweezr - Any chance we can get the Matador added to the waterfall thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8316368&&#post8316368

Thank you very much sir!

Just watched Zathura. Pretty good movie with some decent bass. The surround mix had me looking around the room as the house was creaking and moaning!

I will watch The Matador this weekend, as well as Goblet of Fire.

watched Hollow Man 2 last night, which was an ok movie, with good bass.

watched Hollow Man 2 last night, which was an ok movie, with good bass.

I thought the title of this thread was movies that DON't suck? :D

Just watched Zathura. Pretty good movie with some decent bass. The surround mix had me looking around the room as the house was creaking and moaning!

I will watch The Matador this weekend, as well as Goblet of Fire.

Is Zathura worth buying, or is it a rental?

Is Zathura worth buying, or is it a rental?

I have a 7yo, so it was worth it for me. Fun movie to watch with the kids, especially because she sometimes gets into "fights" with her little sister (2yo), and the moral of the story in the movie is siblings...

Speaking of Zathura, I wouldn't mind watching it again, now that I have a whole new HT setup. I haven't seen it first came out.

Zathura is similar to Jumanji, but not on as big a scale, IMO.

I snuck in the other movies last night since I had the house to myself. That car explosion, tree scene and thunderstorm had some serious bass alright!

Harry Potter was a good movie, but nothing spectacular about the bass, simply good.

I thought the title of this thread was movies that DON't suck? :D

it's watchable imo.

Zathura is similar to Jumanji, but not on as big a scale, IMO.


Yes, it basically takes place in the house. But to me the "scale" was much bigger, since they are floating in outerspace, rather than in a small town. Depends on how you look at it.

BEERFEST

This movie had two scenes of EXTREME bass that made the subs in my local AMC reach their limit!

-When the big black maid, played by Mo'Nique Imes-Jackson, is umm... copulating with a drunk. When she makes the bedposts rock, I could hear the subs hitting the limit.

-When the twin burps. OH MY GOD I haven't felt bass like that since I saw WOTW in theaters.

Is Zathura worth buying, or is it a rental?


We bought it and i think it's a great movie.The bass is in the end when the Zorgons attack.Buy it, especially if you have kids

Riddick? Beerfest? Can we get back ON topic- sub movies that DON'T suck...

I watched Riddick last night- wow! was that a stinker....

Well here's a list of movies that I feel test the capabilities of my Sub? The Rock (Criterion Collection), Daylight (DD or DTS), Final Fantasy "The Spirits Within", The Cell, Minority Report, Hoodwinked. As to whether or not these movies "suck" is your own opinion? Thought I'd throw a few out there that I hadn't seen posted?

Riddick? Beerfest? Can we get back ON topic- sub movies that DON'T suck...

I watched Riddick last night- wow! was that a stinker....


Was it the chopped up version or the extended version? I had the fortune and miss-fortune to see both. This was a clear example of a half way decent movie that got chopped to the point where nothing made much sense.

>Was it [Riddick] the chopped up version or the extended version? I had the fortune and miss-fortune to see both. This was a clear example of a half way decent movie that got chopped to the point where nothing made much sense. <

Based on your description, it was the chopped up version. [edit: I checked it before mailing back today, and it was the extended version- guess the movie just stinks!] My wife and I noted repeatedly breaks in the flow and plot and places where it seemed like we were missing some kind of context. Makes sense now.

>Was it [Riddick] the chopped up version or the extended version? I had the fortune and miss-fortune to see both. This was a clear example of a half way decent movie that got chopped to the point where nothing made much sense. <

Based on your description, it was the chopped up version. My wife and I noted repeatedly breaks in the flow and plot and places where it seemed like we were missing some kind of context. Makes sense now.


Watched the directors cut awhile back and my wife even liked it. I was a little surprised as she is not a SciFi fan.

I just watched "National Treasure" again and there are some very good LFE scenes. Pretty good film, imo.

Just watched "Take The Lead" which had some wicked bass in many scenes.

BEERFEST

This movie had two scenes of EXTREME bass that made the subs in my local AMC reach their limit!

-When the big black maid, played by Mo'Nique Imes-Jackson, is umm... copulating with a drunk. When she makes the bedposts rock, I could hear the subs hitting the limit.

-When the twin burps. OH MY GOD I haven't felt bass like that since I saw WOTW in theaters.
Yea, there were a couple of surprisingly good bass scenes in that movie.

My all time favorite movie Serenity.

Also the new war of the worlds has some powerful bass scenes in it especially the robots call/horn/sound.

There should be a list of all these movies

Can't believe no one has mentioned "MR & MRS SMITH" as a good movie with great bass. Lot's of butt kicking and shotgun blasting. The car-chase scene had especially good sound.

By the way, "The Last Samurai" was an excellent movie. Forget that it was Tom Cruise for just one moment. It was a very well done, artistic, and all-round great movie. The soundtrack was excellent as well.

>Can't believe no one has mentioned "MR & MRS SMITH"

Some decent surround action in general, as well. Not just bass. Good catch!

>Can't believe no one has mentioned "MR & MRS SMITH"

It would be easier to list "action movies with sound effects that should rock but actually suck." Take your pick of any good action movie.

But some of my favorites are House of Flying Daggers, Master & Commander, The Incredibles, Saving Private Ryan, LOTR, Mr & Mrs Smith, Kill Bill, and so on.

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There should be a list of all these movies

Entries listing your top 5 subwoofer movies would be nice. This'll make it easier to skim if you don't have time to read comments/feedback/bashes from the list. I just recently setup my HT, so I'm rewatching all my movies. Here's what I have so far:

1. Kill Bill Vol. 1
2. Hero
3. Bad Boys 2
4. - open slot -
5. - open slot -

Of course this will change in a few weeks...;)

>Can't believe no one has mentioned "MR & MRS SMITH"

Some decent surround action in general, as well. Not just bass. Good catch!

OH YA!!! Definitely gonna re-watch this over the weekend...Miss Jolie always deserves a re-watch. Oh ya...how's Tomb Raider 1 and 2 btw? Do those movies have any good bass scenes?

Forget subwoofers. Angelina can shake my room any time :p

I watched "when a stranger calls" a couple of nights ago. Not a great movie by any stretch, but watchable. It has several spots with some VERY low rumble. It was essentially inaudible. The flu in my fireplace would start to rattle and you could feel the room being pressurized but not much in the way of sound. It was repeated many times throughout the movie. If I had to guess I would say it is around 18hz or so. Has anyone graphed this movie before? My PB12+/2 is set at 20hz so I notice stuff down to about 16hz or so in room. This is one of those notes that I am sure 95% of people who have seen the movie never even know is there. I have listened to the 22hz "cold" note from the Haunting dozens of times and this was definatley significantly lower than that.

Forget subwoofers. Angelina can shake my room any time :p

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Tru dat brother...

"when a stranger calls" ... Not a great movie by any stretch, but watchable.

I sound like a broken record.

Please read the thread title:

Subwoofer movies that DON'T suck

and respond accordingly.

I've just finish to see Alien Vs Predator!, Wow LFE was amazing!, Strong Bass during all the movie! My wife was awake by the shaking (bedroom was separate by 2 floor!!) and she was really upset!!!! Last scene were spacecraft left the Earth was fantastic!,

Movie is good for me but please notice I'm a big fan of Aliens movie! :D

Great. AVP. :(

I give up.

Great. AVP. :(

I give up.

C'mon, AvP reached 22% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alien_vs_predator/) on rottentomatoes.com.

When a Stranger Calls topped out at 10% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10006070-when_a_stranger_calls/).

Someone should rent--I can't bring myself to suggest "buy," even in jest--the movie Ballistic: Ecks v. Sever, at 0% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ballistic_ecks_vs_sever/), to see if we can complete this thread.

Anyways, so that I am not a total thread pooper, I recently added a sub and EQ'd it with Room EQ Wizard and a BFD, which removed a lot a bloated boomy bass bumps in my room (alas, no chance for both room treatments and a happy marriage). Since that time, I can personally second (third, fourth?) Shaun of the Dead and both Bourne movies (Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy) that made me glad to have the sub. At points, I even thought Shaun, a quirky culty comedy/horror hybrid, went a bit overboard in the LFE department (or maybe they just tuned it to torment my specific room).

For more detail, please check out the Master List Thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971042#post8971042

I will be ONLY Updating the Master List Thread from now on.

I sound like a broken record.

Please read the thread title:

Subwoofer movies that DON'T suck

and respond accordingly.

Its a matter of individual taste whether a movie sucks so its natural that there will be posts where movies are mentioned that you or others don't like but the poster of the comments may well love and who really cares whether rotten tomatoes and various sites with there various posters think its all down to individual taste.....live and let live cos if we all had the same tastes it would be a very boring world.

Now as for a subwoofer movie that doesn't suck i recently watched The Transporter and was pleasantly surprised by it....not a great movie but a very entertaining one.

Great job Doc!

Take the Lead, a couple of scenes presurrized the room. Also the hip hop tracks were thumpin'

DrPain,
It's obvious to me that you have way too much leisure time. So now you should post how many times each movie was recommended and how many CW says sucks.

There are 174 movies in the list. It could have been a nice shopping list, but I already have almost all of them. You do have Contact, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, and Predator each listed twice.

Nice job though.

Edit:
Now there are two more not in your list. Looks like you have a job for life keeping your list up to date. :)

Perhaps someone with too much time on his hands should set up a series of polls.

DrPain,
It's obvious to me that you have way too much leisure time. So now you should post how many times each movie was recommended and how many CW says sucks.

There are 174 movies in the list. It could have been a nice shopping list, but I already have almost all of them. You do have Contact, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, and Predator each listed twice.

Nice job though.

Edit:
Now there are two more not in your list. Looks like you have a job for life keeping your list up to date. :)

fixed and it only took about 30mins to do

maybe from now on, to make it easier to add to the list, somehow make the movie Stand Out :)

I just watched "National Treasure" again and there are some very good LFE scenes. Pretty good film, imo.

Yeah. Pretty decent. About as risque as Disney gets. Liked it right after watching and then I realized I enjoyed an american history lesson so I decided I don't like it. Now that I've realized I'm canadian I'm going to reaffirm that sentiment.

I just got finished watching Tears of the Sun (I got it cheap at Wally World). Great bass during the final battle, especially on my new SVS PB10.

I thought Tears of the Sun was a pretty good movie, too.
We Were Soldiers is another war movie with great bass.
The M-16s even dig real deep when they get surrounded
and the air strikes are coming in.

Does anyone know if the Tomb Raider movies have good bass?

Lucky Number SLeven had alot more LFE effect in it than I thought It was a very nice surprise.

I agree about Lucky # Slevin. And a couple of scenes had the items on my end table rumbling, although it was just the background music. Surprisingly good movie, too.

Slevin seems to be overcooded in the LFE dept, at -20 it was still pressurizing the room.
Plenty of stuff around 18Hz, a few scenes were quite loud in the 35-45Hz range.

How is the movie kweezr?

It was decent, kept my attention. Mostly a dialog film, but sound was great when the action hit.

C'mon, AvP reached 22% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alien_vs_predator/) on rottentomatoes.com.

When a Stranger Calls topped out at 10% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10006070-when_a_stranger_calls/).

Someone should rent--I can't bring myself to suggest "buy," even in jest--the movie Ballistic: Ecks v. Sever, at 0% (www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ballistic_ecks_vs_sever/), to see if we can complete this thread.



Well, I suppose I have you to thank for the brilliant suggestion...

Yes, I was in the EB games and on their used dvd rack was Ballistic for 4$, and yes I bought so that I could find out if it was a candidate for our list of "Subwoofer movie that DON'T suck". To answer in one word, dear-god-no.

Really, instead of even thinking about watching this movie you should just go and read the rotten tomatoes reviews. They are much more entertaining than this movie. For example:
"You'll have more fun setting fire to yourself in the parking lot. You'll be more entertained getting hit by a bus."
Is “Ballistic” worth the price of admission? Absolutely not. It sucked. Would I see it again? Please see previous answer.

Ok, you might laugh at just how awful this movie is as you watch it. In two seperate scenes the good guy has the bad guy at gunpoint, but then they throw their gun to the ground to demonstrate how seriously angry they are.
Ah, right, so was there bass? Sadly, no. There is same bad 80s-heavy rock and some rumbling bass in what is supposed to be the climatic final battle in the train yard, but despite many gas-fireball explosions the bass was lacking.

I feel like I've taken one for the team here. Everyone reading can now know to avoid this movie because a) it well and thoroughly did Suck, and b) there just wasn't any bass.

Oh, I almost forgot about the dvd extra! You do get a "game" of rock paper scissors. You even get to choose if you want to play as Super Agent X (I mean Ecks) or as Super Agent Severed and then choose high kick, punch, or low kick. I know my prose can't come close expressing the height of experience that this game provides, but in comparison to the movie, it truly is the highpoint. One can only imagine what the blu ray experience of this will be like.

My wife rented "Poseidon", and I was very much surprised at how much that movie didn't suck. I was going to go downstairs and watch something else but I owed her due to a couple of rancid picks I've made recently, so I settled in to tough out what was sure to be a complete waste of time.

But it wasn't. Maybe it was just my low expectations going in, but that movie was actually pretty good. (Just don't think about the ramifications of the portrayal of the airflow from the port thrusters at the end too much.) Lot's of good bass that gave the SVS a nice workout, too.

My wife rented "Poseidon", and I was very much surprised at how much that movie didn't suck...

(Just don't think about the ramifications of the portrayal of the airflow from the port thrusters at the end too much.) Lot's of good bass that gave the SVS a nice workout, too.
Another example of why this thread's premise is impossible to uphold. ;) (One man's meat... etc.)

I thought Poseidon was terrible, and I'm generally very easy to please. :o

I would suggest that no one think about any of the plot points. Just lean back and enjoy the bass, which, for me, did justify the time investment :)

Thanks for compiling the list (DrPainMD)

i realize "don't suck" is a very subjective term but c'mon...

Chicken Little
Bring It On
Freaky Friday ??

i realize "don't suck" is a very subjective term but c'mon...

Chicken Little
Bring It On
Freaky Friday ??

Obviously people are posting movies that "Don't Suck" to them. If the movies sucks to you why not simply make a mental note/ignore and just move on. As I said before I'm sure there are people that feels Citizen Kane sucks.

I agree with stormshadow3500. Even if someone likes Freaky Friday, they HAVE to know it "sucks". And even if you don't like Citizen Kane, you can't reasonably say it "sucks". All in all this thread has been helpful in pointing out movies worth watching and listening to for the bass as well as the relative quality of the movie. I probably wouldn't have watched, for example, D-Tox (Eye See You) or Open Range or Master and Commander if I hadn't seen them listed here.

I like Troy, some good scenes for the sub and all and all i enjoyed the movie.

Lucky Number SLeven had alot more LFE effect in it than I thought It was a very nice surprise.

I totally agree.

I recently bought an SVS PB12-NSD, and during the movie (Lucky # Sleven) last night, my wife asked if that was our speakers shaking the house! [grin]

-- Martin

I agree with stormshadow3500. Even if someone likes Freaky Friday, they HAVE to know it "sucks"..

People are on different levels of emotion/critical thinking. They may not realize a movie sucks to most, but to them it's great. Take most any Adam Sandler or Jackass movie of example. I think they suck but I'm sure many would say different. Another example would be Britney Spears singing which sucks to me, but she has sold millions of records. I could give numerous examples of various types. Therefore, I disagree.

maybe a change to the thread title would help:D or maybe not :confused:

Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???

Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???

Sounds like an idea, It would need to be started by me, so I could edit the list as it grows.

Twister has been running on HBOHD lately - I seem to remember thinking it sucked back in 97 (or whenever it came out) but based on seeing it on this list a few times I decided to give it another chance...

BIG MISTAKE!

it sucks even worse than I remember: "that's Johnas - we went out and got himself some 'corporate sponsors'... he's got a lot of high-tech toys but no instinct... he's in it for the 'money', not the science..."

where's a bucket when you need one?

careful..I drive on the streets from the movie Twister!! :mad: ;)

I'm sure you won't like it but try The Chronicles of Riddick. Pretty good bass scenes of fire storm on the Crematoria planet(and i have a passive sub by the way), kicks ass. And of course Saving Private Ryan. In my opinion it is sort of a reference movie for testing subs.

Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???
There is one already here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=505286)

Silent Hill...what's up with those blacks?
The bottom end in there for sure.

How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many?

>How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many? <

If Keanu Reeves or one of the Baldwins (not counting Alec) is in it, one or two faults are usually enough to classify it as "sucks."

oh, add Vin Diesel to the list.

How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many?



In no particular order:

1. Hopelessly predictable plot, you can identify the good guys, bad guys, and ending within the first 10 minutes. (90% of action flicks)

2. Improbable and cheesy happy endings crafted to please brain-dead focus groups (see last 5 minutes of "Far and Away")

3. Obvious attempts to manipulate the audience in extremely predictable and uncreative ways, often appealing to trendy cultural neuroses like xenophobia and nationalism, "family values," anti-Muslim hysteria, fear of feminism, etc. (first 10 minutes we see the central character in full-blown ADORING FAMILY MAN mode, which sets us up for the rest of the movie we watch him avenging his family's brutal murder or protecting their livelihood, etc.)

4. Poor film editing---movie feels overly slow, long, and tedious with lots of pointless scenes that should've been cut. (director's cut of "Blade Runner" compared to the original cinematic version)

5. Lousy cast and acting. ("Showgirls")

6. Lousy script and dialogue. ("Showgirls" and most overhyped/overpriced Hollywood blockbusters)

7. Pretentious, pompous, and/or moralistic style usually taking itself WAYYYY too seriously. ("Crash," parts of "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers")

8. Improbable characters (Julia Roberts playing a cheap streetwalker in "Pretty Woman" or Jennifer Lopez from "Maid In Manhattan" --- both movies are also guilty of #1)

9. Cliches---cardboard characters, telegraphed-from-a-mile-away plot developments, etc. (the later "Rocky" movies)



I'd say that any movie having more than 2-3 of those characteristics would be justly accused of sucking.

>How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many? <

If Keanu Reeves or one of the Baldwins (not counting Alec) is in it, one or two faults are usually enough to classify it as "sucks."

oh, add Vin Diesel to the list.

Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master.

the lion king is freaking fantastic

>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <

I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.

>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <

I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.

He was pretty good in The Negotiator and The Long Kiss Goodbye, (though the way the character was written should have been toned down a bit, IMO).

Pitch Black rocks the sub, and also F&F Tokyo drift.

Samuel Jackson's best role was in Pulp Fiction, IMO.

I watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Good sound mix with good LFE throughout. Not destined to become the classic that is the original.....not even close :eek:

>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <

I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.

I just rented this movie where he played this homeless guy, living in a cave....and hot on a murder trail. By the looks of the cover, I wasn't quite sure what I was getting into but I wound up watching it 3 times. That's usually my clue that I'm on to something. FWIW, I think it's his best work yet.

Anybody experience the bass in We Were Soldiers HD-DVD? The dvd has great amounts,
but the HD version is incredible! much more powerfull and louder with out having to turn
up the master volume. I never went above -10, it pressurized the whole house!

Feast!!!

As I was playing with my sub position I found a few fun very low gems in the Star Wars movies...

IV, early in the openng scene the before Vader enters, the "Main Reactor" goes (3P0 tells you after it happens)

III, Anakin/Vaders heartbeat near the end (before the Stoopid, Noooooo!)

Days of Thunder has very solid LFE, IMO. I have always liked the movie also.. the surround effects are nice also since the racing really gives great area effects.

are there any remakes of days of thunder?

are there any remakes of days of thunder?

I don't know about remakes, but the copy I have was released in 99, It's DD 5.1 and Widescreen 2.35:1. Every race sceen in the movie is full of "Thunder" if you know what I mean.

Plus one of my favorate lines of all time:

"You were one lucky son of a bitch in the tunnel turn."
"If you think it was luck, let's do it again." ;)

"I dropping the Hammer!" ... and up fly the DB's :D

good stuff.

But I _liked_ Showgirls...

I mean, cinematically and intellectually, it sucked.

So what.

As for sub-showcase flicks, I'm not gonna force a housepest to sit through The Haunting... I'm just gonna click forward to the "make the picture frames fall off the walls (plexiglass is your friend...)" section...

Just watched Fight Club again over the weekend. GREAT MOVIE and there were a lot of scenes with excellent LFE...

Showgirls didn't have Marla...

The Omen(2006)
The infrasonics really intensified the scrares, made me flinch a few times.

Same here, I heard more about the content but as I said I wasn't expecting the bass I heard. That's why I wanted others to check it out and let me know if it was just me. Remember I said 20+ minutes of sustained LFE, no kidding, that should be enough to peak a bass lovers interest. It sneaks up on you trust me, you're engrossed in the film the bass is this steady undercurrent, you look at the time and holy crap that's some long bass, and it builds and builds. I don't knew if the other viewers run subs or if they are bass lovers etc... JeffD2 rent it and let me know. Hell I may have to rent it again to make sure I'm not crazy.

After seeing this thread I read 11 pages worth just to see if anyone else brought up Irreversable (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/).

+1 on this being a good use of LFE for something other than explosions. The psycological impact of the LFE is quite powerful - simliar to how LFE is being used for crowd control by the military and police departments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weaponry). Make sure your sub can do 28Hz or lower cleanly to get the full effect. It is described in the IMDB trivia sectoin thusly:

"The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction."

+2 on having extreme viewer discretion. This is a good movie, but it is intense in much the same way Requiem for a Dream is intense.

Looking at reviews, I think I'll pass. After Requiem for a Dream, I wanted to go take a really, really long shower. In lysol.

Picked up Minority Report last night at Wally World for $6.88. This has some good LFE in DTS!

Updated Here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971042#post8971042

any new movies to add to the list?

any new movies to add to the list?

Edit: server is acting up, sorry for double post.

Not exactly a Holiday movie but I thought it was very good. Oliver Stone left (no pun intended) his politics out of this one and presents a realistic and compelling story that gave me an insight into the 9/11 tragedy that I did not have before. The acting is excellent and the experience of being in the building when collapsing was amazing. Having a big screen and a quality sound system made the experience very personal and begs the question, why is Osama bin Laden still alive?

Waterworld isn't a subwoofer movie. It doesn't have an LFE channel track.

As for Osama, I suspect that he may be buried in a cave somewhere... Loyal religious fanatics, and a cellular structure to their organization means that we may never know. It's a crying shame that Clinton didn't have him whacked when he had the chance.

The next terrorist activity will probably result in a subwoofer movie too...

"I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on him anymore."

Waterworld isn't a subwoofer movie. It doesn't have an LFE channel track.

I'm just going on what SVS had in their list.

http://www.svsound.com/questions-faqs.cfm#moviedemos

"Waterworld" A modern curiosity. One of a handful of action DVDs without a dedicated LFE track. A feature sadly missing on this shoot'em up, Kevin Costner flick:

1. "Later cousins" Scene 4 (38:23)
2. "Flare dropped" Scene 12 (1:51:30)
3. "Ship sinking" Scene 13 (1:56:45)

http://www.svsound.com/pix/Bassy%20scenes/waterworld1.JPG
http://www.svsound.com/pix/Bassy%20scenes/waterworld2.JPG
http://www.svsound.com/pix/Bassy%20scenes/waterworld3.JPG

BTW, check out the thread in my sig.

Even with dedicated LFE tracks, lots of movies have bass running through the rest of the channels. It just gets redirected to the sub by the crossover.

Don´t know if it has been mentioned, not a movie but the THX trailer where there is a glas sphere with a thunderstorm in it is awsome, when the glass breaks I reach for new underware.

Yeah, but there's also LOTS of movies where the engineer decides "Hey, you know what? The sub's supposed to do the heavy lifting, so let's let the viewer have his headroom, and send all this crap to the big guy."

Since this is the thread that just won't go away, I guess I'll post here. I watched " an American Haunting" last week. Holy Crap! (yes this is homage to Peter Boyle and his "Frank" character) What an awesome soundtrack on that movie!! It was probably one the five most impressed times I have ever been with my humble system. It has tons of shots of bass--just quick kick you in the chests/pants flappers as well as some decent prolonged rumbles. But, the thing that impressed me the most was the surround work that is down in the movie. There are HUGE transitions in sound, from almost completely silent to violent ghostly attacks that pack quite a punch. Tons of quite whispers flying around the surrounds. One scene in particular has the camera spinning in the center of a room with several people in it. Each person yelling and screaming--each voice was very distinctly heard travel around you as you spin with the camera. Anyone who loves to show off you system must get this movie. It has about 1 full hour while the "hauntings" are taking place that is totally loaded with show-off worthy material. Not the bassiest, but much more than many movies on the list. Surround sounds that rival just about any other movie I have scene--my two favorites for that are the first crash sequence in final destination 2 and the missile chasing scene from behind enemy lines.

RMK! told me about this movie and I got Pulse instead. I should have listened to RMK! and you should have posted this sooner. Pulse was a stinker.

Randy, nowhere did I say it was a good movie--just great sound. Actually, about 75 minutes of it is pretty good. I was rather into it--until the end--which is so often the case with thriller/horror type flicks. The explination left a bit to be desired and how it was supposed to all of happened. Still I would sit through it again, gladly, just to experience the sound whizzing around the room--again the subtleties are great and then wham it hits you full force. It immediately jumped near the top of my desired DVD list.

Bug's life is good too.

I should have listened to RMK!

Words to live by :p

So, what I think we are saying is, subwoofer/bass enthusiasts are not necessarily good movie critics. :)

Or great movies are not centered around fake ubber deep bass. ;)



Imagine these mediocre movies with no special effects! :o Embarassing to say the least. At least you pop in that new DVD in advance to the section where the shaking and explosions are and voila,impressed guests!

I assume most of you are familiar with this scene in FOTR. I figured this is a good moment to use for referencing how loud my sub should be, but I just don't know if I'm getting it "right". I turn it low, and it has no impact, but turn it up and the bass sound STRETCHES beyond the moment of the ring making contact with the floor. I'm wondering how long the bass sounds after the drop in your setups? Is this natural? (I have a HSU VTF2 MK2 so I should be getting more of an impact, I think)

You need to calibrate it with an SPL meter and an appopriate source with test tones (receiver if it has LFE/sub channel tones, or something like Avia), not do it by ear with a scene from a movie.

Sinc this thread is going on almost a year I figured I would post here. I know it has been mentioned several times, but I finally got to see the arrival scene at the beginning of Polar express with no kiddies around. That is definately show off worthy bass. For about 1 solid minute the whole house was shaking quite violently. Lots of surround sound as well--very good scene. About as good of bass as you will find, definatley a top ten.

Also, interestingly, I watched Star Wars IV New Hope that my aunt gave me for christmas. My uncle hurt his back and is laid off so she apologized that she couldn't really buy me anything--so she tivo'd and burned me SW IV, V, VI off of Cinemax and gave them to me. Honestly it was the best gift she has ever given me. I didn't expect much in the way of quality and honestly thought it was going to suck so bad I wouldn't be able sit through it. It wasn't too bad. The picture was ok and there was definately some sound compression and you can tell when there was dubbing going on in many of the scenes, but the biggest surprise was the shear amount of bass throughout the whole movie. Lost of places that shook the couch--I didn't expect it from the movie, and definately not from a tivo'd/copied version. I am looking forward to watching V and VI now. I don't remember there being tons of bass in these movies--I guess the remastered soundtracks really are done quite well and rather hot.

for those who missed it Snakes on a Plane came out yesterday on DVD and man did that thing give my whole audio system (particularly sub) a workout - pretty much start to finish. even the opening theme music is extremely bass laden.

I never got to see it in the theatre (wife) but have to wonder how the sound would have compared...

for those who haven't seen it my 30 sec review: the backstory prior to the flight was actually a lot better than I would have expected (thought it would just be a token backdrop). the 1st couple of snake attacks were pretty disappointing but then they got a lot better. Samuel L is his normal awesome self though the other characters are (intentionally) cookie cut stereotypes (they're just there to give the snakes someone to bite anyway) - they're so intentionally two-dimensional it's actually part of the fun (presumably by design).

anyway, if nothing else it's a good disc to let your audio system stretch its legs from time to time...

Just got done watching SAWIII had some good bass scenes.

Crank has heart pounding bass :p

Crank has heart pounding bass :p

No pun intended?

just got done Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, thought the bass was going to pop my subwoofer :eek:

The subject matter is pretty heavy, but the sound design in Munich is great. There are some great explosions, and a couple of spots where trains go by (off-screen) that you can really hear and feel. The gunshots and gunfights are spectacular as well.




Agreed

http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LB/696854_DV_L_B.jpg http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LF/696854_DV_L_F.jpg

When, one of the team members rigs the first bomb in one of the terrorist’s home. Dear god the depth was a blast of air erupting deeply from the centre channel which then moved into the LFE.1 track, nearly practically giving me sweaty palms along with Goosebumps.

Each fabricated explosion just got deeper and louder, practically at the hotel, I should be using JBL cinema PA screen array for this as this is what films are made for, but still on the JBL Control 5 screen array and the JBL 4645 it was a scary LFE.1 moment.

How bout Alien (Directors Cut)? Great movie and with the dts mix, it makes you forget the movie was made about 30 years ago. Also, don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but Blade 2's DTS-ES track is quite impressive. Make sure to watch the club scene and every other scene in the movie.

http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LB/526797_DV_L_B.jpg http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LF/526797_DV_L_F.jpg


27 years ago!

In fact the first edition of Alien on DVD is the better sounding version. The newer edition the so called dreadful directors cut is poorly mixed with some sounds some discrete sounds like in the centre channel have been merged with the centre phantom which is on the left and right channels.

The result stuck out like a sore thumb where I only use the first edition for watching this classic science fiction horror, it’s more exact sounding to the 70mm six-track Dolby Stereo version.

http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LB/348074_DV_L_B.jpg http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LF/348074_DV_L_F.jpg

During the rumbling scene inside the shuttlecraft which builds up all over your chest and shaking the chair! Until that is Ripley, hits the airlock switch sending that nasty beast out the door!

Great film, but I would 100%, recommend the first edition.

Note: thou each film has different commentary tracks it’s only worthy listening to the different accounts from the actors and crew on the directors cut. The dts mix won’t save in million years!

Waterworld isn't a subwoofer movie. It doesn't have an LFE channel track.

As for Osama, I suspect that he may be buried in a cave somewhere... Loyal religious fanatics, and a cellular structure to their organization means that we may never know. It's a crying shame that Clinton didn't have him whacked when he had the chance.

The next terrorist activity will probably result in a subwoofer movie too...

Well I was going to ask this question a long time ago where in the dickens is the LFE.1 track on this film, not to mention Vertigo?

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Thou the technical details describe it being in Dolby digital 5.1 it doesn’t indicate on the AVR receiver. Vertigo indicates there is LFE.1 but not a single moment in the film that goes by where it shows this off?

Waterworld, I wonder if the dts THX laserdisc has the same encoding with the LFE.1?

Some shakers from yesterday still grab my attention for this loonacy and craziness into the unknown of the LFE.1.

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Earthquake is a classic and would shake the room for over 8 minutes during chapter 8 the big one!

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind during the opening there is nice slam of LFE.1 when the music finally comes up to the blinding white light, magically opening sequence.

During the landing of the mother ship arrival where low end moves around and varying up and down with each tone getting deeper as it gets nearer and nearer to the ground.

"If everything’s ready here on the dark side of the moon, play the five tones."

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Robocop this is loaded with lots of low end in the fronts as well as the LFE.1 during the drug raid attack, ((SLAM!)) Robocop is not going to take no for an answer if they do not comply.

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The Black Hole has a wonderful low end that even opens the film John Barry, gives it lots of timpani and brass. During the first moments when the palomino, encounters a huge black hole and a mysterious ship just on the outside of the event horizon, the U.S.S. Cygnus and a mad scientist that likes to travel where no ones dared to travel before…

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X-Men III The Last Stand 120dbc @ 25Hz during the sequence when Jean uses her powers to raise objects within and around the house!

The rest of the film is just fantastic, when Jean uses her power to left objects within and around the house depth is deep and aggressively dynamic in the LFE.1 with a whooping 115dbc in the centre of the room! At the back of the room it came in at 120dbc, this when the house finally lands which felt like a track hitting the building!

The JBL 4645 THX approved 18” sub bass is a hell raiser of sub bass that is used exclusively for the LFE.1

Agreed

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When, one of the team members rigs the first bomb in one of the terrorist’s home. Dear god the depth was a blast of air erupting deeply from the centre channel which then moved into the LFE.1 track, nearly practically giving me sweaty palms along with Goosebumps.

Each fabricated explosion just got deeper and louder, practically at the hotel, I should be using JBL cinema PA screen array for this as this is what films are made for, but still on the JBL Control 5 screen array and the JBL 4645 it was a scary LFE.1 moment.


The explosions were great, indeed. Probably the first "wow" would be the first gunshot, which comes out of nowhere. It's just BLAM! in your face.

If you "get" Australian movies, then I'd recommend "Chopper", the story of Mark Read.

I also really enjoyed Shottas, lots of bass it that one, but you'll need the subtitles ;) .

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I’ve just revisited "What Lies Beneath" the lows are mostly covered from the three-screen and surround channels with very little from the LFE.1.

It’s not always about LFE.1 in fact the specification of Dolby and dts is 10Hz 20KHz in most cases sometimes. In the case with "What Lies Beneath" it was solid all around the sub bass extension with jolts of low end as Norman, tires to bump of the Miss!

One scene where Norman, has placed his wife in the bathtub and then notices is the necklace and tries to remove with one almighty JOLT! That kicks in all three-screen surrounds and LFE.1 within a few milliseconds of each other wow.

It ends with a LFE.1 just after Norman, bangs his head on the sink with a low rhythmic chord, very nice indeed and this is what you get when you mess with the wife.

Down to 25Hz with some aggressive jolt so watch those levels when playing it at 0db THX reference level. :)

The explosions were great, indeed. Probably the first "wow" would be the first gunshot, which comes out of nowhere. It's just BLAM! in your face.



100% agree.

That first major blast when they blow up the building seriously made me jump. I expected a BOOM........but got a BOOM from my PB-12NSD.

Needless to say I had a smile on my face from the sheer joy of just how good the impact was with my system :) I can only imagine what 2 of these subs would sound like.....or for that matter 2 of ANY sub!

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It may not be the most mainstream movie, but the first laserdisc i heard with my Def Tech sub was The Ghost And The Darkness. When the lion first roared, the sub made it seem like it was in the room with me!

I can't get over how much extreme bass Beerfest has. Definitely more than one would normally expect in a comedy, and more impressive than that in many action movies, oddly enough.

You should check out Hot Fuzz in that case. It's very strange that the mix is as bass-heavy as it is. Beerfest isn't even close in comparison.

I don't know if it's been mentioned but I'll add:

"Unbreakable" doesn't suck.

Hot Fuzz has literally ridiculous LFE. Ridiculous in a funny way.

Car doors slamming sound like bombs going off... And bombs, well they are ridiculous in a whole other way. It's like the title should have been, "Fun with LFE".

... Oh, and there's English cop type stuff going on in the meantime. :)


Tim

I don't know if it's been mentioned but I'll add:

"Unbreakable" doesn't suck.

oh yeah, i bought that the first week it came out. very good movie, great sound

Swordfish was a pretty good movie with lots of LFE

...And of course Halle Berry shows her puppies. :D