MB1010 -
You need to 'Run' CMD, which opens a DOS window. Texmex appears to be using a shell program because 'rm' and 'mv' are not a valid DOS commands. replace the rm comamnd with 'Del' and replace the 'mv' with 'Ren'
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Syntax as follows:

Ren
Renames a file or files.

RENAME [drive:][path]filename1 filename2.
REN [drive:][path]filename1 filename2.

Note that you cannot specify a new drive or path for your destination file.
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Del
Deletes one or more files.

DEL names

names Specifies a list of one or more files or directories.
Wildcards may be used to delete multiple files. If a
directory is specified, all files within the directory
will be deleted.

You need to be slightly careful with this stuff. Back when life was fun and DOS was king, people frequently deleted a lot more than they intended - often deleting entire hard drives.

I hope Apple has info on a new version/update of DVD Studio Pro at their WWDC starting on the 7th.

god this is SO annoying!

The toshiba will play the HD DVD's but any time i skip to the next chapter or fast-forward, it freaks out. It will pause and then shut down and say "error."

Anyone else experiencing this!??!?!?

god this is SO annoying!

The toshiba will play the HD DVD's but any time i skip to the next chapter or fast-forward, it freaks out. It will pause and then shut down and say "error."

Anyone else experiencing this!??!?!?

Not at all. Fast forward and chapter skip are smooth as butter on my discs. I haven't had a single problem in this area. I was surprised at how quickly and cleanly these functions worked.

Any problems with commercial discs?

Instead of doing all that VOB conversion and then DVDshrink try this tool:

http://www.intercom.co.jp/english/transcoder/index.html

It has a 20 day free trial and then it is $35. I used it on a mpeg file that would not load in MF5 (MPEG stream not compatible) and I selected 99% for size, it cranked on it reducing the file by 1% but it will NOW LOAD!!
As a side note, to use these HD-DVDsfor archival I was worried about retrieving the streams, I can get the video stream by using Dgindex but no audio so I am storing the ac3 stream on the discs in a sound folder. I can (and have) rebuilt the mpeg from the disc :)

Downloaded the trial version and giving it a shot on "2001" compessing it down to 88% which will allow for a DL burn, says it gonna take about 20 minutes....

Not at all. Fast forward and chapter skip are smooth as butter on my discs. I haven't had a single problem in this area. I was surprised at how quickly and cleanly these functions worked.

Any problems with commercial discs?

Nope, none.

The problem with these trailer discs is that the QT trailers are 24fps. I have to use DGpulldown to get them to 29.97. Then I have to run the Quickstream fix for Ulead to even like them. I have a feeling that might be part of the problem. Not sure why...but maybe. :( I've been working on this for weeks and it's driving me nuts.

Just came aboard, all you guys are doing a great job glad to have found this forum.

Well, BangoO sent me a chunk of his problem stream (actually, he sent 5 ts files, about 500MB total, and for the record, yousendit.com worked just fine).
- I launched VideoRedoPlus (version 2.2.1.445) and hit "Open Video"
- In the "Open" dialog box, I selected all 5 ts streams and clicked "Open"
- When prompted to "Combine or Join Files" I chose "Combine"
- Once the video was open on the timeline, I clicked "Save As..."
- Prompted: "Do you wish re-mux the entire input file?", clicked "Yes"
- Saved the file as "bango-test.mpg" (Save as type: MPEG Program Streams)
- Launched ULead VideoStudio 10+ (version 10.0.0110.0 Plus)
- From "Tools" menu, selected "Create Disk"
- Changed project type to HD-DVD in lower left corner
- Did NOT change any project properties ("Do not convert compliant..." was checked in properties page)
- Unchecked create menu, clicked on "Add video files" icon, added "bango-test.mpg"
- Clicked Next; Clicked Next again
- Checked box to "Create HD-DVD Folders", set output directory, clicked burn
- VS10+ did NOT re-encode and created the fileset quickly
- Launched Nero Burning ROM (version 7.2.3.2)
- In new project dialog, selected type DVD-ROM (UDF)
- On "Multi-session" tab, selected "No multi-session"
- On "UDF" tab, selected "Enable X-Box Compatibility..."
- Clicked "New" button
- Added folders "Hvdvd_ts" and "Adv_obj" to disk (Adv_obj is empty, and I'm pretty sure it's not required)
- Burned to Verbatim DVD+RW (4x)
- Popped the DVD into the Toshiba HD-A1 (firmware v1.4), hit play
- HD-A1 is connected to my low-end Sony receiver via optical and analog

The disk played flawlessly, both video and audio, through both optical and analog.

BangoO - can you please describe what you hear from your test DVD's? Does the audio drop out? Pops and clicks? No audio whatsoever?

If you send me your email address via PM, I'll send the HVDVD_TS folder to you so you can burn my output onto a disk to test. This should help to pinpoint the problem.

texmex

god this is SO annoying!

The toshiba will play the HD DVD's but any time i skip to the next chapter or fast-forward, it freaks out. It will pause and then shut down and say "error."

Anyone else experiencing this!??!?!?

No problems here either. Must be unique to the 24p conversion.

Well, BangoO sent me a chunk of his problem stream (actually, he sent 5 ts files, about 500MB total, and for the record, yousendit.com worked just fine).
- I launched VideoRedoPlus (version 2.2.1.445) and hit "Open Video"
- In the "Open" dialog box, I selected all 5 ts streams and clicked "Open"
- When prompted to "Combine or Join Files" I chose "Combine"
- Once the video was open on the timeline, I clicked "Save As..."
- Prompted: "Do you wish re-mux the entire input file?", clicked "Yes"
- Saved the file as "bango-test.mpg" (Save as type: MPEG Program Streams)
- Launched ULead VideoStudio 10+ (version 10.0.0110.0 Plus)
- From "Tools" menu, selected "Create Disk"
- Changed project type to HD-DVD in lower left corner
- Did NOT change any project properties ("Do not convert compliant..." was checked in properties page)
- Unchecked create menu, clicked on "Add video files" icon, added "bango-test.mpg"
- Clicked Next; Clicked Next again
- Checked box to "Create HD-DVD Folders", set output directory, clicked burn
- VS10+ did NOT re-encode and created the fileset quickly
- Launched Nero Burning ROM (version 7.2.3.2)
- In new project dialog, selected type DVD-ROM (UDF)
- On "Multi-session" tab, selected "No multi-session"
- On "UDF" tab, selected "Enable X-Box Compatibility..."
- Clicked "New" button
- Added folders "Hvdvd_ts" and "Adv_obj" to disk (Adv_obj is empty, and I'm pretty sure it's not required)
- Burned to Verbatim DVD+RW (4x)
- Popped the DVD into the Toshiba HD-A1 (firmware v1.4), hit play
- HD-A1 is connected to my low-end Sony receiver via optical and analog

The disk played flawlessly, both video and audio, through both optical and analog.

BangoO - can you please describe what you hear from your test DVD's? Does the audio drop out? Pops and clicks? No audio whatsoever?

If you send me your email address via PM, I'll send the HVDVD_TS folder to you so you can burn my output onto a disk to test. This should help to pinpoint the problem.

texmex


I've seen his problem on a friend's system. Every disc I make plays with perfect audio and video , on my system, yet the same disc on his system have what sounds like scrambled audio through the SPIDF. We hooked up his 5.1 analog outputs and the audio is fine, yet it is scrambled through his digital output. Same discs play perfectly on my player, and my reciever. Toshiba players are running the same firmware. We came to the conclusion that the difference must be in the way certain recievers decode thed digital output of these 'home-made' hd-dvds.

Marc.

When I tried with VS10+, I've set it to 5.1, it gave the exact same result as MF5 without setting anything, which means I get 5.1 sound, but crappy... I should record it as I don't how to explain it :(

Maybe I didn't listen closely enough - couldn't crank up the volume b/c gf was asleep. Please define "crappy". I was expecting dropouts or something similar. I'll listen again in the morning with more volume, but try to explain "crappy" so I know what to listen for.

I do have one theory about the problem - when I open just the first ts file in VideoRedoPlus and select "Show Video Program Info" from the "Tools" menu, it shows the audio as 2.0. If I open any other ts, it shows 5.1. This is certainly due to the fact that the lead-in to the program was 2.0, so we've caught the last few frames of 2.0 audio. The transition from 2.0 to 5.1 has been problematic in other "extraction" applications, so maybe this is the culprit here too. Try clipping the first few seconds from the file, making sure that the resulting stream is showing up as 5.1 in VideoRedoPlus. Let me know if that makes any difference.

texmex

Downloaded the trial version and giving it a shot on "2001" compessing it down to 88% which will allow for a DL burn, says it gonna take about 20 minutes....

The transcode took 23 minutes, ran DVDpatcher, VS10+... so on. Works just fine.

I'm sure this way works as well as the other outlined procedure, just cuts out all extra steps.

Instead of doing all that VOB conversion and then DVDshrink try this tool:
Thank you for the tip; I'll give it a try.

- Added folders "Hvdvd_ts" and "Adv_obj" to disk (Adv_obj is empty, and I'm pretty sure it's not required)
You're correct, it's not required.

I hope Apple has info on a new version/update of DVD Studio Pro at their WWDC starting on the 7th.

Hi there,

Please keep us updated. I have a couple of spare Core 2 Duo T7400 Merom CPUs sitting here, one of which is destined to end up inside a Mac Mini with 2GB RAM upgrade - the perfect DVD Studio Pro authoring machine on a budget :)

I've seen his problem on a friend's system. Every disc I make plays with perfect audio and video , on my system, yet the same disc on his system have what sounds like scrambled audio through the SPIDF. We hooked up his 5.1 analog outputs and the audio is fine, yet it is scrambled through his digital output. Same discs play perfectly on my player, and my reciever. Toshiba players are running the same firmware. We came to the conclusion that the difference must be in the way certain recievers decode thed digital output of these 'home-made' hd-dvds.

Marc.
I think scrambled is the right word !
Sorry if I could not explain it better before, english is not my mother tongue, so explaining this kind of things is not very easy...

My HDA1 should be connected to my AV Receiver via analog soon, I hope it will fix the problem.

texmex, I just sent you my email ;)

PS: texmex, I knew about the 2.0 flag on the 1st file, so I clipped it until it said 5.1, but it did not fix the problem

Thx everybody for your help ! ;)

Instead of doing all that VOB conversion and then DVDshrink try this tool:

http://www.intercom.co.jp/english/transcoder/index.html
Tested this, and I'm about to buy it. It works great. Too bad it doesn't support .ts format, but I can live with one VRD pre-processing step. Think I'm going to send them an e-mail requesting they add .ts support and auto-1080 vertical sizing in the future, that shouldn't be too hard.

I did a transcode with a file that was ~400MB too large to fit on a DL disc. I set the compression to 96% and it took the app 14 minutes to crunch it down to a size which fits nicely on a DL. On my 24" TFT I could see no difference between the two files. Would've been really surprised if I had, actually.

Almost forgot: texmex, do you accept PayPal donations?

I don't get this. I've been fooling around with another large .ts file and the vertical resolution is giving me a headache. H2M reports it as 1080i, texmex's HDPatch says it's 1080, VideoReDo says it's 1080 as well - but Elecard's MPEG Player says it's 1088.

I ran the file through H2M, exported it into another .ts and made sure H2M was set to fix vertical size to 1080. Elecard still says it's 1088.

Exported a short clip from the original file to Program Stream with VRD. Opened the .mpg with VRD, which says it's 1080. Dropped the .mpg into Elecard which says it's 1088.

Now, I'm thinking: could this have any bearing with Ulead sometimes taking such a long time 'tasting' the file before you can actually click OK in the File Selection window?

I don't get this. I've been fooling around with another large .ts file and the vertical resolution is giving me a headache. H2M reports it as 1080i, texmex's HDPatch says it's 1080, VideoReDo says it's 1080 as well - but Elecard's MPEG Player says it's 1088.

I ran the file through H2M, exported it into another .ts and made sure H2M was set to fix vertical size to 1080. Elecard still says it's 1088.

Exported a short clip from the original file to Program Stream with VRD. Opened the .mpg with VRD, which says it's 1080. Dropped the .mpg into Elecard which says it's 1088.

Now, I'm thinking: could this have any bearing with Ulead sometimes taking such a long time 'tasting' the file before you can actually click OK in the File Selection window?

Strange - I wonder if Elecard is ignoring the sequence headers and actually "counting" pixels? I don't know if this has anything to do with the Ulead apps long loading time, but I've had large 1088 (fixed) files load very quickly.

No problems here either. Must be unique to the 24p conversion.

This is driving me absolutely insane. If I re-encode at 29.97fps with TMPGenc, everything is jerky. Very not smooth.

So is EVERYONE using 29.97?? All ts clips are that? I can't be the only one using other framerates.

By the way, as the HDA1 can also read VC-1, is there a way to do create WM9 HD-DVDs just like we create MPEG2 HD-DVDs ?

So is EVERYONE using 29.97?? All ts clips are that? I can't be the only one using other framerates.
Apparently you are :o

Ok...Im having what looks like macroblocking issues during motion on a 1080i disc that I made...still shots look good.

I took multiple TS files, combined them into one with nullsplitter, then created an mpeg file using MPEG2VCR, then created the HD-DVD folder using Ulead MP5 (followed the guide steps), then burned with Nero 7 (again, followed guide steps).

Am I possibly missing a setting? Any ideas? Thanks.

BTW - I just viewed the first TS file, and I see the macroblocking in it too....bad source? or can I correct this somehow while using MP5?

is it in the source?

BTW - I just viewed the first TS file, and I see the macroblocking in it too....bad source? or can I correct this somehow while using MP5?
Garbage in, garbage out. If there's macroblocking in your original TS file, it won't magically disappear when you make a HD DVD out of it. No, you can't get rid of it, because it's in the broadcasted stream.

Yeah, if I play the original TS file with PowerDVD, then I still see the mb.....its probably a bad TS file.

Is there any way its my vid card instead?? Basically, when I watched it on my A1, it looks exactly like if I play the TS file on my comp.

Again, if there was macroblocking in the original HDTV broadcast, it's also in the file and will stay there.

Again, if there was macroblocking in the original HDTV broadcast, it's also in the file and will stay there.

Yeah, thats what im thinking too....but another TS file that I have now does the same thing. I did not source these so Im just curious.

Would my vid card be an issue if I didnt source these myself? I have a gforce 6600.

Does any one have a good suggestion for a tool to convert wmv files to mpeg?
I'm not real happy with the way the Ulead software is doing it.

Does any one have a good suggestion for a tool to convert wmv files to mpeg?
I'm not real happy with the way the Ulead software is doing it.

Ahhh...good question that I was pondering (Last night) myself. Looking for a good way (best way actually) to convert Xvid (.avi) to .mpg as well. I have a BEAUTIFUL version of BSHI Alien (OAR, 5.1) that is in this format (which looks terrific btw, no subtitles) and would LOVE to convert this puppy to HD-DVD!!

So when we get blank HD-DVD media, can we still use the same methods to burn material or will the DVD drives not recognize the media?

I believe I've found why it is taking so long for my videos to load into MF5. Every file that has a mix of AC3 2.0 and AC3 5.1 audio takes forever to load. Even selecting the file takes half an hour. I'm using version 5.0 (that supports Blu-Ray) and may need to upgrade.

However, I'm wondering if it might be possible to use HDpatch to fool MF5 about the audio as well as the video? Something like have HDPatch set the bits that tell MF5 the audio at the start id AC3 5.1

EDIT: Well I was wrong, telling MF5 that the video has 5.1 audio doesn't help. I cut the 2.0 section from the beginning so all that gets passed is 5.1 sound, and it still takes forever.

Fixed my problem, no thanks to YOU guys! :)

I can post how to convert any Quicktime (or wmv files...or any others, for that matter) if anyone is interested.

Fixed my problem, no thanks to YOU guys! :)

I can post how to convert any Quicktime (or wmv files...or any others, for that matter) if anyone is interested.

Exactly what I'm interested in. Please do post.

I can post how to convert any Quicktime (or wmv files...or any others, for that matter) if anyone is interested.

Hmm, T2 is wmv isnt it? ;)

If anyone wonders what happens when you 'shrink' a 13.5 GB file to fit on a 8 GB disk:
The top half is the squished part, in case you didn't notice

Almost forgot: texmex, do you accept PayPal donations?

Well, I guess I could always use some extra beer money. But please remember - the work I've done here is "for the greater good", and I don't EXPECT any payment for it. If anyone is kind enough to donate even a single dollar, I thank you in advance for your generosity.

My PayPal account: texmex00 at verizon dot net

Fixed my problem, no thanks to YOU guys! :)

I can post how to convert any Quicktime (or wmv files...or any others, for that matter) if anyone is interested.
Please post, looking for that too

Finished burning all my discs tonight. For those who are a part of the HD torrenting community, I'll probably be putting them up.

Btw...will the guides ever get a sticky?

I'll type out all my directions when I get a free moment.

Finished burning all my discs tonight. For those who are a part of the HD torrenting community, I'll probably be putting them up.

Btw...will the guides ever get a sticky?

I'll type out all my directions when I get a free moment.

Sorry, guys, about the tardiness on the guide. I'm still trying to dig out from under our power outage in St. Louis. I had some computer issues, too, but everything is almost back to normal. The guide is finished except for a couple of finishing touches. We'll need to tweak it and make additions, but it should be up very soon.

:cool:

I can't wait until the guide is completed so that more HD-DVD owners can start doing this stuff. I am almost affraid to change anything on my Ripping station in fear that I may start having some of the issues reported on this thread. Everything is working prefectly for me right now (with the exception of occasional long video import times).

I would like to start a really in depth listing of success stories with detailed information on Hardware, Driver Versions and Software versions so we can start narrowing this stuff down to a known good configuration.

I have now completed authoring HD-DVD DD5.1 versions of:

Some really great HD archives :)

Next up:

The rest of my archives :cool:

I wonder what Toshiba thinks about all this? ;)

Edit - Sorry guys/gals, wasn't thinking...just too dang happy about the value I am getting from this HD-A1

texmex, did you get my pm so that you can send me the HD-DVD folder via yousendit ?

I wonder what Toshiba thinks about all this? ;)
Hush. Nobody tell them, OK? :D

If anyone wonders what happens when you 'shrink' a 13.5 GB file to fit on a 8 GB disk
Ouchie.

Hmm, T2 is wmv isnt it? ;)

Yep but the DRM on it could make things difficult.

I don't know about you, but I'm a bit uncomfortable with the posting of what is being written to disks. Seeing it in writing may make it seem scarier, and stop the development of better consumer tools.

:cool:

Some really great archives....

;)

Thanks. :-) :) :) :)

Kipp -
LOL... Your posting has his entire posting, so even if he edits/deletes his post, the offending bits remain being posted. :)

I don't know about you, but I'm a bit uncomfortable with the posting of what is being written to disks. Seeing it in writing may make it seem scarier, and stop the development of better consumer tools.

Too late! :)

Honestly, release those movies on HD DVD and the quality won't even compare. Plus we'll ALL buy them! :)

To Joseph Clark & all others who've made this possible, a big thank you! I made my first HD DVD using a 5 min DVHS capture & it worked like a charm! No jitter & w/DD5.1.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but being new to all this, including capturing hi-def to PC, how can I tell if a TS file will fit onto a dual-layer DVD blank? Or that a DL & a SL blank is needed for a certain TS? How do you know where to split the TS? Thanks.

Sure we'll buy them, but lets clean these post (and quotes) up and keep this thread open. I'd love to see a great sticky out of the important stuff.

Question - When converting my TS files to an mpg in MPEG-VCR, something happens to the soundtrack.....When watching the mpeg, at first the sound is fine, but slowly gets out of synch....by the end, its way off.....the TS doesnt have this problem so it has to be MPEG-VCR....is there a setting that im missing? Anyone have this issue?

I agree,with all due respect, there is no need for flaming, mistake has been made,and we realize that,after all it's just coming from one got excited about what this thread has to offer, we are all human being, I suggested that all related posts be deleted / clean up. I will delete mine in a little bit.

My post is history in a minute.

Question - When converting my TS files to an mpg in MPEG-VCR, something happens to the soundtrack.....When watching the mpeg, at first the sound is fine, but slowly gets out of synch....by the end, its way off.....the TS doesnt have this problem so it has to be MPEG-VCR....is there a setting that im missing? Anyone have this issue?

RockStrongo,

I had the exact same issue until I switched over to VideoRedo Plus. I also did away with using HDTVtoMPEG as it seems to cause all sorts of issues for DVD Movie Factory 5.

Now all I use it VideoRedo Plus and Ulead DMF 5. Unless I need to do the 1088 fix.

RockStrongo,

I had the exact same issue until I switched over to VideoRedo Plus. I also did away with using HDTVtoMPEG as it seems to cause all sorts of issues for DVD Movie Factory 5.

Now all I use it VideoRedo Plus and Ulead DMF 5. Unless I need to do the 1088 fix.

Ill give VideoRedo a try..thank!

BTW - Anyone know how to open multiple TS files in redo? or do I have to combine them before?

Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked before, but...

Are you getting an OSD on your discs? Mine are showing up as HD DVDs, but when I hit pause/play/rewind/ff, it will show the OSD like a regular DVD. Is this happening to your discs as well?

texmex, did you get my pm so that you can send me the HD-DVD folder via yousendit ?

I did, and I tried to send the file yesterday, but I had a switch go bad on my network mid-transfer. I managed to fix the problem, but didn't get another chance to send the file before I left.... for vacation. I still might be able to get it to you tomorrow or Monday. I'll let you know if I get it sent. Sorry for the delay.

texmex

Kipp -
LOL... Your posting has his entire posting, so even if he edits/deletes his post, the offending bits remain being posted. :)

Did you not see the"edit" option???

I did, and I tried to send the file yesterday, but I had a switch go bad on my network mid-transfer. I managed to fix the problem, but didn't get another chance to send the file before I left.... for vacation. I still might be able to get it to you tomorrow or Monday. I'll let you know if I get it sent. Sorry for the delay.

texmex
No problem texmex, thx ! ;)

Guys, I've done a search & can't find an answer to this. How large a TS or MPG file will fit on a double-layer & a single-layer blank DVD? This is assuming I don't create a menu. Trying to determine where to split the TS or MPG file. Thanks.

Both Movie Factory 5 and VideoStudio 10 re-render MPEG HDTV clips, which takes a long time and of course diminishes the quality.

Is there a way to avoid recoding? The "Do no convert MPEG..." box is checked, but this has no effect.

Am I missing something obvious? I tried making MPEG files with both Womble and VideoRedoPlus.

Has anyone seen this yet?

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&No=20&N=200447&product_code=340292&Pn=AVLP2_DVDLA_HD_DVD_Player

Might make most of this moot.

Has anyone seen this yet? Might make most of this moot.
Yes, most have. No, it won't. That's not a HD DVD player.

Yes I know it's not a HD DVD player. What it seems to do is read a DVD containing ts or wmv files if I am reading the ad correctly. I know previous network players can do this stuff over the network, but not actually read it from a DVD. So if you have archived ts or wmv or other HD files onto DVDs, there is no sense converting it to a true HD DVD.

So when we get blank HD-DVD media, can we still use the same methods to burn material or will the DVD drives not recognize the media?

Anyone know???

Has anyone seen this yet?

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&No=20&N=200447&product_code=340292&Pn=AVLP2_DVDLA_HD_DVD_Player

Might make most of this moot.

acording to the tech spec:

DVD/CD Playback Formats Supported:
Audio CD
CD-R
CD-RW
DVD
DVD-RW/-R
DVD+RW/+R
VCD
HD-DVD

Well, looks like it will do HD-DVD but will only do MPEG2-TS (HD 720p),wonder what happen to 1080i or 1088 that is.??

But $199 tag, that's more like it, wonder how long will it take to boot up??

Anyone know???

Regular DVD recorders won't recognize the media. We can still use the procedure, but we'll have to use it with a true HD DVD recorder when the HD DVD recordables come along.


Guys, I have the last piece in place for the guide now and it will be up later today. Sorry this has taken so long. I had more computer related problems because of the storms here in St. Louis. Remember that you can make changes, so as soon as it's posted, let me know what I missed.

Guys, I've done a search & can't find an answer to this. How large a TS or MPG file will fit on a double-layer & a single-layer blank DVD? This is assuming I don't create a menu. Trying to determine where to split the TS or MPG file. Thanks.

8000MB is a safe number if you dont use a menu

Both Movie Factory 5 and VideoStudio 10 re-render MPEG HDTV clips, which takes a long time and of course diminishes the quality.

Is there a way to avoid recoding? The "Do no convert MPEG..." box is checked, but this has no effect.

Am I missing something obvious? I tried making MPEG files with both Womble and VideoRedoPlus.


make sure your file is 1920x1080i60 and make sure to adjust the HD DVD settings to match in VS/MF5

acording to the tech spec:

DVD/CD Playback Formats Supported:
Audio CD
CD-R
CD-RW
DVD
DVD-RW/-R
DVD+RW/+R
VCD
HD-DVD

Well, looks like it will do HD-DVD but will only do MPEG2-TS (HD 720p),wonder what happen to 1080i or 1088 that is.??

But $199 tag, that's more like it, wonder how long will it take to boot up??

This looks like the same old LinkPlayer to me, except the CompUSA ad has HD-DVD listed as a supported playback format. Note that it's not HD DVD. I think this is the same old red laser player Avel has been selling for a long time. As such, it won't play true blue laser HD DVDs. This is deceptive advertising. Note also that it doesn't have DVI out, just analog.

make sure your file is 1920x1080i60 and make sure to adjust the HD DVD settings to match in VS/MF5

My file was indeed 1920x1088, and using fix1088 before converting it to MPEG was enough to make Ulead stop re-rendering it.

Thanks for the help!

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here. My understanding is that the network players - like Snazzio - that have been around for a while can only play HD files streamed from a PC. The DVD drive on the player itself would only handle SD sources.
From my reading of the ad, it appears that this new player can handle HD sources on DVD media such as transport stream files, wmv-hd files, etc. So a disc like T2 in wmv-hd, which could only play on a PC might be playable on this player. Is this correct, or am I reading the ad wrong?
So as an analogy to the past. A long time ago, Divx files had to be converted to VCD, SVCD or DVD to be playable on a DVD player. Then players that played the Divx files directly came along. So do we now have a player that can play the HD formats directly, instead of converting to a TRUE HD DVD?

I just posted the guide. Please take a look and let me know about changes that need to be made.

texmex, please look at the the HDPatch section and let me know if anything is unclear or inaccurate.

This looks like the same old LinkPlayer to me, except the CompUSA ad has HD-DVD listed as a supported playback format. Note that it's not HD DVD. I think this is the same old red laser player Avel has been selling for a long time. As such, it won't play true blue laser HD DVDs. This is deceptive advertising. Note also that it doesn't have DVI out, just analog.

Just d/l the manual , it does not mention HD-DVD at all, compusa might have put up a wrong ads.

I've had the Avel Linkplayer 2 and now a Snazzio. You can NOT play WMV-HD discs on them. You CAN stream them from a PC to the players. Two problems, most WMV-HD discs have on disc DRM and none of those players can decode WMA Pro audio. The Snazzio software will transcode it into 2 channel pcm(?) before streaming it.

I was doing a Pepsi challenge with one of my authored HD-DVD's vs the original DVD upsample via the HD-A1

My TV is a Samsung HLN5065W 720P DLP set using the Component input

I used a backup copy of the DVD so I can get the upsampling to 1080i via Component.

My TV has a STILL button that captures a clean image, even an interlaced one.

Here are the comparison shots (warning for the squeamish, there's blood in these shots)

DVD Shot
http://www.plexus-net.com/dnweb/MISC/KillBill_DVD.jpg

Authored HD-DVD Shot
http://www.plexus-net.com/dnweb/MISC/KillBill_HD.jpg

Pretty clean I think...my camera sucks though :rolleyes:

I've had the Avel Linkplayer 2 and now a Snazzio. You can NOT play WMV-HD discs on them. You CAN stream them from a PC to the players. Two problems, most WMV-HD discs have on disc DRM and none of those players can decode WMA Pro audio. The Snazzio software will transcode it into 2 channel pcm(?) before streaming it.

From reading the manual, I see this as you described. You can't play the commercial WMV-HD discs due to copyright protection. It does look like you can indeed play ts files and other wmv files on DVD media. However it looks like the max bitrate - 10Mbs for MPEG2 and 8Mbs for WMV9 may be a problem.

I would imagine it's only a matter of time when all these file formats will be playable on a DVD player.

Alan Gouger made the guide a sticky. It will remain at the top of the HD DVD Software section from now on. Please make new posts there so we can transition to that thread (as per Alan's request). Again, I'm looking for feedback and corrections. We can change/add to the guide as needed. I referenced the old thread within the guide for anyone who wants to read the history of the process so far.

And, it's the *official* AVS guide to HD DVD authoring. Thanks everyone for the contributions you've made to this thread. It's a really valuable resource.

I was doing a Pepsi challenge with one of my authored HD-DVD's vs the original DVD upsample via the HD-A1

My TV is a Samsung HLN5065W 720P DLP set using the Component input

I used a backup copy of the DVD so I can get the upsampling to 1080i via Component.

My TV has a STILL button that captures a clean image, even an interlaced one.

Here are the comparison shots (warning for the squeamish, there's blood in these shots)

DVD Shot
http://www.plexus-net.com/dnweb/MISC/KillBill_DVD.jpg

Authored HD-DVD Shot
http://www.plexus-net.com/dnweb/MISC/KillBill_HD.jpg

Pretty clean I think...my camera sucks though :rolleyes:

The difference is quite clear, especially in the rectangle lamps hanging from the ceiling.

I've been following the sticky and am stuck at this point of the directions. " h. Click on the “Project Settings” button in the lower left of the screen. Make sure the box labeled “Do not convert compliant MPEG files” is checked and click “OK.”
i. Click the box labeled “Create HD DVD folders.” Click on the folder icon at the end of that option to select the folder where you wish to create the HD DVD folder. (You may create such a folder in the browser at this point, if you do not have one prepared.) For some reason I am not seeing the box labeled "Create HD DVD folders! Can someone give me a hand in this? I just downloaded the free trial version of Ulead today, and I'm wondering if this version does not include the box labled "Create HD DVD folders?

I've had the Avel Linkplayer 2 and now a Snazzio. You can NOT play WMV-HD discs on them. You CAN stream them from a PC to the players. Two problems, most WMV-HD discs have on disc DRM and none of those players can decode WMA Pro audio. The Snazzio software will transcode it into 2 channel pcm(?) before streaming it.
I've got three of these bad boys. They play WMV HD files (at least the ones I've tested them with) from DVD media, provided the file isn't chock full of DRM. Anything smelling remotely of DRM and they throw in the towel.

Yes I know it's not a HD DVD player. What it seems to do is read a DVD containing ts or wmv files if I am reading the ad correctly. I know previous network players can do this stuff over the network, but not actually read it from a DVD. So if you have archived ts or wmv or other HD files onto DVDs, there is no sense converting it to a true HD DVD.
There's a world of difference. These players are based on a Sigma chip which quite simply chokes when the bitrate gets too high. The ceiling is quite low, somewhere around 15mbit/s. Toshiba is able to play files with bitrates of 30mbit/s and even higher without problems. Also, these players have been able to play HD files from a DVD for at least a couple of years now.

Very weird....all of a sudden, Movie Factory wont load my mpg files. When I click "Open video file", it shows my list, but then just clocks....Reboot didnt fix it.

It was working fine this morning with the same size mpg files.....any ideas?

Very weird....all of a sudden, Movie Factory wont load my mpg files. When I click "Open video file", it shows my list, but then just clocks....Reboot didnt fix it.

It was working fine this morning with the same size mpg files.....any ideas?

Mine does the same thing once in a while, it's not locked....just thinking about the the file a little longer.

Let it sit for about 10 minutes and it'll snap out of it.

It will pause again when you import the video.

There's a world of difference. These players are based on a Sigma chip which quite simply chokes when the bitrate gets too high. The ceiling is quite low, somewhere around 15mbit/s. Toshiba is able to play files with bitrates of 30mbit/s and even higher without problems. Also, these players have been able to play HD files from a DVD for at least a couple of years now.

OK, I understand now. Not so useful at present.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Has anyone got a good method of converting wmv files to HD DVD? I've tried a few encoders including MF5's, and the results are pretty poor.

Mine does the same thing once in a while, it's not locked....just thinking about the the file a little longer.

Let it sit for about 10 minutes and it'll snap out of it.

It will pause again when you import the video.

Damn, there has to be something behind this....this morning it would load quickly and now it wont....i dont even have many apps running or anything....ill see what I can dig up on the net about this.

Not having much luck, can anyone help?

Tried the posted procedure with a WMV sample (coral reef). Burned to a DVD+RW. If I
use the procedure to burn a standard DVD it works just fine. But if I try an HD-DVD
project in Ulead the Toshiba loads the disc, says "HD-DVD" on the front panel then
stops with 00000,etc on the counter. On screen it says, cannot play disc.

Any ideas?
Thanks!

Damn, there has to be something behind this....this morning it would load quickly and now it wont....i dont even have many apps running or anything....ill see what I can dig up on the net about this.

Well, I searched the net for answers, but havent found anything. Basically, it was working fine up until yesterday morning. Now, it wont even open an mpeg in Ulead MF5. I let it sit for an hour and nothing. Just clocks. Ive tried 3 different mpeg files (all over 4gb).

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Didnt work.

Any ideas?

Reading the Ulead message boards, i found a post where someone was having the same issue. It sounds like VideoRedo can corrupt mpg files fairly easily. I guess when I created my mpg files I somehow corrupted them, thats why they are not loading in Ulead.

Ill try VR's repair tool when I get home.

Reading the Ulead message boards, i found a post where someone was having the same issue. It sounds like VideoRedo can corrupt mpg files fairly easily. I guess when I created my mpg files I somehow corrupted them, thats why they are not loading in Ulead.

Ill try VR's repair tool when I get home.
It takes me sometimes over an hour to open files, and I've a fairly fast computer with tons of memory. The thing to do is to look at the task manager. If it shows 10-20% activity then MF5 is doing some sort of MPEG reconstruction. What I believe is happening is that the video you're converting was recorded from a station with sub-channels. This means that it is not using the full bit-rate. Perhaps MF5 is filling in the null packets or doing something like that. What I have noticed is that video from stations without sub-channels seem to load quickly whereas those with sub-channels do not.

This is a theory I'm still checking. Has anyone else found it to be true?

It takes me sometimes over an hour to open files, and I've a fairly fast computer with tons of memory. The thing to do is to look at the task manager. If it shows 10-20% activity then MF5 is doing some sort of MPEG reconstruction. What I believe is happening is that the video you're converting was recorded from a station with sub-channels. This means that it is not using the full bit-rate. Perhaps MF5 is filling in the null packets or doing something like that. What I have noticed is that video from stations without sub-channels seem to load quickly whereas those with sub-channels do not.

This is a theory I'm still checking. Has anyone else found it to be true?

Hmm...you might be right....ill let it sit then, normally after about 30 minutes or so, I give up and kill it.

Hmm...you might be right....ill let it sit then, normally after about 30 minutes or so, I give up and kill it.

Even if I'm right, it still makes MF5 almost unusable. I've written VideoReDo and asked them is they can do anything to speed the process. I'm also trying to write a program that will eliminate the need to use MF5 (don't get your hopes up, I'm trying something fairly simple and it will probably not work).

It takes me sometimes over an hour to open files, and I've a fairly fast computer with tons of memory. The thing to do is to look at the task manager. If it shows 10-20% activity then MF5 is doing some sort of MPEG reconstruction. What I believe is happening is that the video you're converting was recorded from a station with sub-channels. This means that it is not using the full bit-rate. Perhaps MF5 is filling in the null packets or doing something like that. What I have noticed is that video from stations without sub-channels seem to load quickly whereas those with sub-channels do not.

This is a theory I'm still checking. Has anyone else found it to be true?


Are you running them through Womble MPEG-VCR or something similar first? This makes them 'compliant' with MF5 and they will load in a fraction of a second afterwards. Null packets in or out have no bearing on this issue.

Marc.

Are you running them through Womble MPEG-VCR or something similar first? This makes them 'compliant' with MF5 and they will load in a fraction of a second afterwards. Null packets in or out have no bearing on this issue.

Marc.

We're having a similar discussion over in the new thread - about slow VideoRedo file loads. It might be better to take this over there (a request from Alan Gouger to put all new posts in the sticky thread).

Here's the link:

The HD DVD Authoring Guide Sticky (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8110991#post8110991)

If you have patched the file and it is loading very slowly, try cutting a second or two off the front with videoredo and see if that fixes it. I've had this happen a couple of times and this worked. Also, you might try the mpeg2 transcoder util (I posted the link a few pages back) and set the compression to 99% and see if that fixes it, this has also fixed a couple of movies for me.

I think I got my issue to work. First, I was having an issue with MPEG2VCR getting out of sync with the audio. With VideoRedo, it was making files that wouldnt load in MF5.

So, I added a step. First, I run through VideoRedo, if it wont load in MF5, I run it through MPEG2VCR and then it seems to work fine. I havent had the audio sync issue yet.

It sucks that you have to add a step, but it seems to work. I tried VideoRedo's quickstream fix also, but the results werent as good as running it through MPEG2VCR.

I have an EAD Theatermaster Encore, and it doesn't recognize the Dolby Digital 5.1 stream from my home made HD-DVDs. The Encore's display flips back and forth between Dolby Digital Mono and regular Stereo. The sound sounds like it is skipping continuously. I've read here that a couple of other people have this problem as well. Is there a fix for this problem? I would like to listen to a nice 5.1 sound track.

Thanks,

Chauncey

I have an EAD Theatermaster Encore, and it doesn't recognize the Dolby Digital 5.1 stream from my home made HD-DVDs. The Encore's display flips back and forth between Dolby Digital Mono and regular Stereo. The sound sounds like it is skipping continuously. I've read here that a couple of other people have this problem as well. Is there a fix for this problem? I would like to listen to a nice 5.1 sound track.

Thanks,

Chauncey
I use the analog out from the HD-A1. My receivre also has a problem with commercial HD DVDs, so I hve to use it with them as well. Once setup, it works rather well.

Thanks for the reply Hyrax. If your receiver does the same thing with commercial HD-DVDs, then there is a good chance mine will as well. Unfortunately, I don't have the capability of using the analog outputs of the Toshiba with my setup.

Chauncey

I've seen his problem on a friend's system. Every disc I make plays with perfect audio and video , on my system, yet the same disc on his system have what sounds like scrambled audio through the SPIDF. We hooked up his 5.1 analog outputs and the audio is fine, yet it is scrambled through his digital output. Same discs play perfectly on my player, and my reciever. Toshiba players are running the same firmware. We came to the conclusion that the difference must be in the way certain recievers decode thed digital output of these 'home-made' hd-dvds.

Marc.
Marc, my problem is exactly the same...
I finally hooked up the HDA1 via analog and all my TS-HD-DVD play fine, thx ! ;)

Marc, my problem is exactly the same...
I finally hooked up the HDA1 via analog and all my TS-HD-DVD play fine, thx ! ;)

That's what happened to me at Best Buy before I had an A1. I took some test discs down to BB to see if they would work. Everything worked well, except for the audio. It skipped and stuttered. I fooled around for several days until I found out that the receiver they had hooked up to their A1 had issues with the audio. When I took it to a different BB, they had it hooked up to Westinghouse LCD and the discs played fine there. That's when I bought the A1. They almost lost a sale. (The first BB checked it out with a commercial disc after hours and they told me it was doing the same thing with the audio it was doing with the test discs I brought it. Eventually, they hooked theirs up like the other BB and all was well.)

I wonder if this is something they can fix with a firmware update. It seems funny that regular DVD digital 5.1 audio works just fine with the player, and with HD-DVDs it doesn't work for some people.

Here's hoping!

Chauncey

It works perfectly in digital with the HD-DVDs I buy, the issue is only with the ones I create myself...

I have an EAD Theatermaster Encore, and it doesn't recognize the Dolby Digital 5.1 stream from my home made HD-DVDs. The Encore's display flips back and forth between Dolby Digital Mono and regular Stereo. The sound sounds like it is skipping continuously. I've read here that a couple of other people have this problem as well. Is there a fix for this problem? I would like to listen to a nice 5.1 sound track.

Thanks,

Chauncey

Thay is very similar to whay my setup does. Mine flicks and pops between PCM and Dobly 5.1. I have no trouble with commercial HD DVD using down converted Plus or TRu-HD or straight DTS (Dont have any Dolby Dig commercial HD DVDs).

Also, it was mentioned earlier in the thread that the model and brand of burner effects playback, I experienced this first hand yesterday. DL Discs burnt by Samsung burner get detected as non DVD and wont play if played normally. If I turn off the Tosh with the disc in it and then reboot it then it will play the disc but it tends to randomly hard lock during the movie. DL Discs burnt on my NEC burner work perfectly.

I wonder if this is something they can fix with a firmware update. It seems funny that regular DVD digital 5.1 audio works just fine with the player, and with HD-DVDs it doesn't work for some people.

Here's hoping!

Chauncey

the problem is the player thinks its getting DD+ and trys to convert it to DTS to send it out the optical.

As already said much earlier in this thread, it is my believe that the AC-3 5.1 track is mislabeled in the IFO file by the Ulead software. If you press the display button on your remote, you will see that the track is marked as DD+.

As asked before, but never got any answer, is there anybody who owns 'The Perfect Storm' and can look how the (real) DD track on this release is labeled ? That would at least confirm or deny my believe.

Is there anybody (Amir?) who knows what the bits of the audio attributes in the IFO file mean or how a real DD track should be labeled?

Toshiba player always labels Dolby as Dolby+, all the extras on discs say its Dolby+ when I'm pretty damn sure its just plain Dolby Digital.

What interest me is if this is an Authoring error or some sort of incompatilibility with certain Receivers/PrePros.

Toshiba player always labels Dolby as Dolby+, all the extras on discs say its Dolby+ when I'm pretty damn sure its just plain Dolby Digital.

What interest me is if this is an Authoring error or some sort of incompatilibility with certain Receivers/PrePros.
I believe it is (in part at least) an incompatibility with certain receivers. I have a Denon 5700 and it cannot play HD DVD audio via a digital connection from commercial disks. What I think may be happening is that the HD-A1 tries to play Dolby+ as a high bitrate DTS. My Denon 5700 is one of the first generation of receivers to include a DTS decoder, and I believe it just cannot handle to DTS bitstream from the HD-A1.

Now, there could also be an authoring error by ULEAD that tells the HD-A1 that the audio on our homemade disks is Dolby+.

My A1 doesnt recognize alot of my Memorex and/or Ritek single layer or double layer discs (and sometimes Verbatims). I have a pioneer burner and a plextor burner. Results are the same for both.

Mine will NOT play one with booktype of DVD-ROM from both either.

Sometimes, it takes 2 or 3 loads before it will recognize them. Of course, retail sd and hd discs are fine.

Hopefully, the second gen players will recognize them better (or a firmware update).

I believe it is (in part at least) an incompatibility with certain receivers. I have a Denon 5700 and it cannot play HD DVD audio via a digital connection from commercial disks. What I think may be happening is that the HD-A1 tries to play Dolby+ as a high bitrate DTS. My Denon 5700 is one of the first generation of receivers to include a DTS decoder, and I believe it just cannot handle to DTS bitstream from the HD-A1.

Now, there could also be an authoring error by ULEAD that tells the HD-A1 that the audio on our homemade disks is Dolby+.

Mine works fine with any commercial disc converted to DTS over Coax/Optical.

Edit: It is not DD5.1 specific. The problem occurs with DD2.0 on home brew discs too (Although Dolby 2.0 flickers on and off instead of 5.1).

I think this is most likely something to do with Homebrew authoring and certain Receivers/Preamps. I'm going to send a disc of mine to someone else I know here in the UK with an XA1.

Just a reminder, guys, that Alan Gouger has asked us to move all discussion to the new sticky thread located here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146

Just a reminder, guys, that Alan Gouger has asked us to move all discussion to the new sticky thread located here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146

You might ask a mod to close this one with last instruction of where to post.

Now I have another issue :)

For one particular source only, when I convert it to MPEG via VideoReDo, I can't open it in MF5, as soon as I browse the directory where the file is in, MF5 freezes (I don't even have time to double click on the file to open it).
If I convert only a small part of the TS files to MPEG it works, if I convert half of them it does not...
After a few minutes (14 actually !), I can finally select the file and click on OK, it seems to add the file to MF5, and then MF5 freezes again... and then everything works after a few minutes...
In fact, everytime I do something in MF5, it freezes for a few minutes, and only when I'm using this particular MPEG file !
And when I added the chapters, it froze and then crashed with an error on sepa.dll :(

So I tried to convert it with MPEGVCR, and I can open it in MF5 and create my HD-DVD, but then the sound gets more and more out of sync and the HD-DVD becomes quickly unwatchable...

Any ideas/comment ?
Thx ! ;)

PS: same issues with VS10+...

Now I have another issue :)

For one particular source only, when I convert it to MPEG via VideoReDo, I can't open it in MF5, as soon as I browse the directory where the file is in, MF5 freezes (I don't even have time to double click on the file to open it).
If I convert only a small part of the TS files to MPEG it works, if I convert half of them it does not...
After a few minutes (14 actually !), I can finally select the file and click on OK, it seems to add the file to MF5, and then MF5 freezes again... and then everything works after a few minutes...
In fact, everytime I do something in MF5, it freezes for a few minutes, and only when I'm using this particular MPEG file !
And when I added the chapters, it froze and then crashed with an error on sepa.dll :(

So I tried to convert it with MPEGVCR, and I can open it in MF5 and create my HD-DVD, but then the sound gets more and more out of sync and the HD-DVD becomes quickly unwatchable...

Any ideas/comment ?
Thx ! ;)

PS: same issues with VS10+...

I had the exact same problem...Unfortunately, the only way to fix it is to run the TS file through VideoRedo and then run that newly created mpeg through MPEG2VCR afterwards. Then, it will load in Ulead. Its worked for me every time.

Ok I'll try that thx ;)

I had the exact same problem...Unfortunately, the only way to fix it is to run the TS file through VideoRedo and then run that newly created mpeg through MPEG2VCR afterwards. Then, it will load in Ulead. Its worked for me every time.

I tried and it does work, what option do you use (and tool) in both software?

I tried and it does work, what option do you use (and tool) in both software?

I just open the TS file in VideoRedo...do any editing (like cutting the file in half), save it as an mpeg file (that takes about 15-20minutes depending on the length of the movie).

Then, after its done, if it does not load in Ulead, then I open the mpeg in MPEG2VCR then click save. Be sure to save as mpeg program stream.

Thats all I do and it works fine for me.

I just open the TS file in VideoRedo...do any editing (like cutting the file in half), save it as an mpeg file (that takes about 15-20minutes depending on the length of the movie).

Then, after its done, if it does not load in Ulead, then I open the mpeg in MPEG2VCR then click save. Be sure to save as mpeg program stream.

Thats all I do and it works fine for me.

thanks it worked

Any trick for doing those 1280x1080i files quickly??

I used HDPatch to make it 1920x1080i, i see 4 scrambled video with digital noise and i ear the sound...

Any trick for doing those 1280x1080i files quickly??

I used HDPatch to make it 1920x1080i, i see 4 scrambled video with digital noise and i ear the sound...

Not sure what you're having a problem with. The 1280x1080i files that I have worked with have not required any patching. Ulead has accepted these files as compliant and no re-encoding is done.
I would not use HDPatch, just load the file directly. Have you done this, and did it cause a problem?

I had the exact same problem...Unfortunately, the only way to fix it is to run the TS file through VideoRedo and then run that newly created mpeg through MPEG2VCR afterwards. Then, it will load in Ulead. Its worked for me every time.


I tried this method and while it did work,the movie I burned was full of macroblocking during any motion scenes.Checked the original files,they play back great with VLC.This is very strange,never had a problem with Videoredo mpegs til now,must be the source?I'll keep messing with different combo's,see what I can get to work.

Not sure what you're having a problem with. The 1280x1080i files that I have worked with have not required any patching. Ulead has accepted these files as compliant and no re-encoding is done.
I would not use HDPatch, just load the file directly. Have you done this, and did it cause a problem?

DOH!

Need some help. I have been authoring (with excellent results I might add) with Movie Factory 5 (and Womble Mpegvcr). I have tried Video redo and for some reason, it just don't work. I have a problem with mpegvcr on SOME .ts files. It will start some sort of "scan" and once it's finished, the .ts file will NOT be loaded into the program. It is NOT an issue of patching the file or anything (since the file is complient) so I'm kind of hitting a wall. Anybody else have this problem??

Darrin, I ran into the exact issue w/some of my TS files. It will eventually open, but as many small segments. VideoRedo has a QuickStream Fix feature (under Tools I think). Open the TS file and let it spit out a "fixed" TS file. This new TS will now load fine in MPEG-VCR.

Hey, thanks for the info, Brajesh!! Hope all is well. I will give this a shot tomorrow.

Darrin, I ran into the exact issue w/some of my TS files. It will eventually open, but as many small segments. VideoRedo has a QuickStream Fix feature (under Tools I think). Open the TS file and let it spit out a "fixed" TS file. This new TS will now load fine in MPEG-VCR.


No luck for me. I have to try it with a few more titles though. Strange.

I'm really hoping somebody can help here. I have quite a few streams now that will NOT load in mpegvcr. I just get the "Scan" box and eventhough it appears to be loading, nothing ever happens. I tried video redo quick stream fix but it does absolutely nothing for me. ANY help is appreaciated.

This thread is supposed to be closed. Please take the problem up in the Official Guide thread.

This thread is supposed to be closed. Please take the problem up in the Official Guide thread.


Sorry. Will do.

Thanks for the great information that appears to allow my hc3 home footage to get onto hd dvd without the short term high costs of a hd dvd burner.
I have authored a dvd with hd dvd as suggested here, but without the hd dvd player am unable to check the information on the disk would play. (dvd drive says the windows/disk is unrecognised)
Are any of you hackers out there able to tell me how to get the dvd drive or I've heard that xbox360 may read this disk and/or to rip the home movie off the disk. If possible, in the short term would allow me to only need to make all my home movies on hd dvd without downsizing to dvd and loosing the quality benefit.
Thanks in advance.

Gerao-
I believe Nero 7.5 will (or will soon) play the disk. The VLC Media player will play the files on the disk without sound.

But the easiest way to check the disk is to go to Best Buy or CC and see if it plays.

Mods, please lock this thread. I thought the official stickied post had become unstickied.

I did exactly the creation process as described with MF and Nero 7, but when I put in the DVD in my new Toshiba HD-E1 (euoprean version), the display on the player shows shortly 'HDDVD' but then on the screen an error message is showed: 'no DVD format'. Any ideas?

Sascha

I found out the reason: the E1 is a european player but currently only supports 29,97 fps! After have found out this, I changed MF from PAL to NTSC and...it worked! A new software update in Feb for the E1 should solve this thing.

cant get the conversion to work on the xbox 360 hd dvd drive! has anyone got it to work on the xbox yet?

The files I create with VideoReDo take forever to load into MF5.
You need to set it to limit the bit rate for video to 20mbs. The files should load pretty much instantly. If they don't they are broken.

cant get the conversion to work on the xbox 360 hd dvd drive! has anyone got it to work on the xbox yet?

Yes. Works like a charm.

This is a very old thread. There is newer info and a guide to the authoring process in the sticky thread right on top of this forum.

Sorry, if this has been asked on this long thread but will Ulead Movie Factory 6 Plus work just as well as movie factory 5. I can also use the MF6 for enhancing my home videos. :DA

Sorry, if this has been asked on this long thread but will Ulead Movie Factory 6 Plus work just as well as movie factory 5. I can also use the MF6 for enhancing my home videos. :DA

Being discussed in the Authoring thread at the top of this forum.

Thanks, another question if I had a Xbox 360 Hd-dvd and burned my Hd Movie to the hard drive would it be able to use MF6 with HD capabilities to capture and burn?

Anyone?? :D

ok, here is a detailed step-by-step:

STEP 1-
You need a HD Video (1080i and 720p both worked for me)

STEP 2-
Open Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5

STEP 3-
Select "NEW" project.

STEP 4-
Select "HD DVD"

STEP 5-
Select "Add Media" and find the HD Video from step 1

STEP 6-
Select "NEXT" and set-up your menu if desired

STEP 7-
Select "NEXT" then select "Create HD DVD Folders" check box. Make sure you know where the folder will be saved. When this is completed go to step 8

STEP 8-
Open up Nero 6.6 and select Nero Burning Rom. Select DVD-Video from left menu.
Next, click the "NEW" box.

STEP 9-
The left half of the next screen is your new DVD, the right half is you files. Find the HDDVD_TS folder you created in step 7 from the right side and drag it over to the left (Your new HD DVD). Notice that the option to burn the DVD is ghosted, preventing you from creating the new HD DVD...no problem, lets go to step 10.

STEP 10-
Go to your desktop and create a new text file. To do this right click on the desktop and select NEW. Then select TEXT DOCUMENT. Now right click this file and select "rename". Rename the file "VIDEO_TS.VOB" and drag it into to Nero screen. You need to drop it into the folder "VIDEO_TS" (it has the red folder icon).

Now notice what just happened....the "BURN THE CURRENT COMPILATION" icon has become un-ghosted. MIRACLE! WOW!

STEP 11-
Burn the damn DVD

STEP 12-
Put the DVD in the Toshiba HDA1 HD-DVD Player

STEP 13-
WOW...it works!

Say, I tried your method with MF6 and it did Zip, has anyone tried it with MF6, if so what was your results. By the way do we need a HD-DVD player like the one with the Xbox 360?


Any help would be appreciated.

Zapper, use the thead called 'The Offical AVS Guide to HD DVD Authoring' if you want a response.

Sorry, wrong thread :D

I don't see the need to copy in HD-DVD format, I've been doing this for long time on both my HDV 1440x1080 videos from my HDR-FX1 and my captures 720p and 1080i from my satellite receiver, I just copy the captured files as a DATA disc using any copy software available, and play them back in full resolution either in my computer or using any HD media player such as Snazio SZ1350, even if you have already HD-DVD player it should play those media files in full resolution.

I built my first hd dvd on dvdr. I convert my hdv tape and author using Scenarist Standard Content. It can be played on PC using Powerdvd7.3.

Please goto the following link to download my first HD DVD.
http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/showthread.php?t=9176

I built my first hd dvd on dvdr. I convert my hdv tape and author using Scenarist Standard Content. It can be played on PC using Powerdvd7.3.

If you convert to DVD format you loose the resolution of the video and you waist a lot of time, What I'm saying is you don't have to convert neither to DVD nor to HD-DVD just keep the file as is and burn it to DVD-R or DVD-DL it will be played in it's original format by most today's media players including the new generation HD-DVD players, you will be saving a lot of time.

If you convert to DVD format you loose the resolution of the video and you waist a lot of time, What I'm saying is you don't have to convert neither to DVD nor to HD-DVD just keep the file as is and burn it to DVD-R or DVD-DL it will be played in it's original format by most today's media players including the new generation HD-DVD players, you will be saving a lot of time.

How do you fit the HD-DVD files onto a standard or DL DVD? The files for HD-DVD movies I have seen range from 12-25GB, which obvioulsy will not fit on either of those types of blank dvds.

This thread has no reason to exist. The questions and answers in it have all been posted multiple times in the sticky at the top of this forum: 'The Offical AVS Guide to HD DVD Authoring'

Mods?

How do you fit the HD-DVD files onto a standard or DL DVD? The files for HD-DVD movies I have seen range from 12-25GB, which obvioulsy will not fit on either of those types of blank dvds.

2 discs per movie, if you read the thread from the bigening it;s about how to create an image of HD-DVD on regular DVD-R or DVD-DL, like wittangamo said there is no need for this thread to exist because no need to use HD-DVD on regular DVD disc it's just waist of time, copy the HD file as is and split it to multiple discs and that's the cheapest and the fastest way to go, unless you have a lot of mony to spent buying those fency HD-DVD players about $700 and a $40 a movie to watch on them.

2 discs per movie, if you read the thread from the bigening it;s about how to create an image of HD-DVD on regular DVD-R or DVD-DL, like wittangamo said there is no need for this thread to exist because no need to use HD-DVD on regular DVD disc it's just waist of time, copy the HD file as is and split it to multiple discs and that's the cheapest and the fastest way to go, unless you have a lot of mony to spent buying those fency HD-DVD players about $700 and a $40 a movie to watch on them.


Thanks. So you just end up with the main movie file, ie, no menus,etc? What software do you use to split the main movie file?

fafner

Thanks. So you just end up with the main movie file, ie, no menus,etc? What software do you use to split the main movie file?

fafner

Good question, but if you want to save time you have to give up menus option at least for the comercial movies, as of your HDV home videos it's worth it but I havn't seen yet a software that does HD with menus unless you go pro like Adobe premiere or final cut those softwares cost $500 and up and they don't edit in TS you have to convert to AVI it takes hours to do 30min footage.
Use VideoRedo or HDTVtoMPEG to split ts files.

If you convert to DVD format you loose the resolution of the video and you waist a lot of time, What I'm saying is you don't have to convert neither to DVD nor to HD-DVD just keep the file as is and burn it to DVD-R or DVD-DL it will be played in it's original format by most today's media players including the new generation HD-DVD players, you will be saving a lot of time.
To which media players do you refer? I seem to recall hearing that the media players currently available cannot play HD material if the bit rates are very high. I could be wrong, so tell me so.

I've also looked at Toshiba's description of their latest HD DVD player (the HD-A20) and it does not mention the ability to play anything other than HD DVDs or SD DVDs. Can you tell me which of the new generation HD DVD players will play HD MPEG files?

Please goto the following link to download my first HD DVD.
http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/showthread.php?t=9176
What disc format do you use?

Is UDF 1.0 sufficient, or must one somehow burn a UDF 2.5 disc?

(Sorry, I didn't get a chance to read all the bazillion posts in this or the other thread.)

What disc format do you use?

Is UDF 1.0 sufficient, or must one somehow burn a UDF 2.5 disc?

(Sorry, I didn't get a chance to read all the bazillion posts in this or the other thread.)

You really only need to read the first post in the sticky, it's a complete guide. But to answer your question, authoring either UDF 1.0 in "Xbox compatbility mode" or UDF 2.50 will work in Movie Factory 5, burning in Nero 7. I use 2.50.

Thx. Perhaps I had missed it, but AFAIK, that sticky post didn't spell out UDF 2.5 was required.

Now I'll have to figure out my Mac burning software settings for UDF 2.5. That is if the HD DVD personal torrent posted above works. I tried it last night and got nowhere.

Thx. Perhaps I had missed it, but AFAIK, that sticky post didn't spell out UDF 2.5 was required.

Now I'll have to figure out my Mac burning software settings for UDF 2.5. That is if the HD DVD personal torrent posted above works. I tried it last night and got nowhere.

It's not required. It just works better for me.

To which media players do you refer? I seem to recall hearing that the media players currently available cannot play HD material if the bit rates are very high. I could be wrong, so tell me so.

I've also looked at Toshiba's description of their latest HD DVD player (the HD-A20) and it does not mention the ability to play anything other than HD DVDs or SD DVDs. Can you tell me which of the new generation HD DVD players will play HD MPEG files?

For example Snazio SZ1350 as of HD-DVD players that plays any media files are not available now but few manifacturers are willing to release models with this feature.
I just don't see the need to author in HD-DVD format it's just waste of time for me, besides I don't have to buy HD-DVD player for $700 or mor I have Snazio that I bought for $220 and I'm happy with it, it plays all my HD and HDV recordings.

Hi all,
I must admit , this is a copy of a question that I have travelled the globe for WITHOUT SUCCESS.
You guys in US are VERY LUCKY but hopefully some other clever bunnies can help.

I have purchased a hd e1 here in aus for the express purpose of creating 3x discs to play my home hd content. (standard red laser dvd with hd content)
I use ulead movie factory to author the hd content (folders or iso) and nero 7 to burn.
All is fine and final discs play on windvd and show as hd video BUT....
My new Toshiba hd e1 continues to state "disc is not dvd format"
and will not play the disc.
I understand the us version hd a1 does all this fine.
I think the hd e1 does not like the file structure or the detail of a simply hd pal video content .
I am desparetely looking for assistance if anyone can help.
ps.
It is not related to media type, dvd writer type, firmwares etc etc as I've used several different pcs, firmwares, disc types, formats (roms +. - etc)
Thanks in advance

I found out the reason: the E1 is a european player but currently only supports 29,97 fps! After have found out this, I changed MF from PAL to NTSC and...it worked! A new software update in Feb for the E1 should solve this thing.


HI,
I do hope you get this and can get back to me..

Hi all,
I must be the most frustrated person on this planet.!
I have purchased a hd e1 here in aus for the express purpose of creating 3x discs to play my home hd content. (standard red laser dvd with hd content)
I use ulead movie factory to author the hd content (folders or iso) and nero 7 to burn.
All is fine and final discs play on windvd and show as hd video BUT....
My new Toshiba hd e1 continues to state "disc is not dvd format"
and will not play the disc.
I understand the us version hd a1 does all this fine.
I think the hd e1 does not like the file structure or the detail of a simply hd pal video content .
I am desparetely looking for assistance if anyone can help.
ps.
It is not related to media type, dvd writer type, firmwares etc etc as I've used several different pcs, firmwares, disc types, formats (roms +. - etc)
Thanks in advance

HAVING SAID ALL THIS I WILL TRY THE NTSC SETTING BUT AN UPDATE WILL BE IMMENSELY APPRECIATED.
CHRIS

I burned hd-dvd,but on the screen i can see only 1/25 video(full picture,but small) What i did wrong?:(

Koxx -
It sounds like the HD DVD player thinks your video is 1080i, but it is actually 480.
What is the resolution of your source and the EVO file? Use HDPatch to find out.

All -
This morning, using the new Ulead DVD Movie Factory 5, I was able to take some of my Sony HDR-HC1 High Def HDV footage and author an HD-DVD .iso file which I burned to a DVD+R disc using Nero and the new Toshiba HD-DVD Player recognized the disc format as HD-DVD and it played back in glorious 1080i format.

Inexpensive program -- and will allow us to Author HD-DVD discs until HD-DVD bruners and media are available and cheaper. A single layer DVD disc can hold 20 minutes of HDV footage and a Dual-Layer can hold 40 minutes.


Does this app allow the use of WMV9/VC-1 or AVC video, rendered in another application, without re-rendering? That's needed to get real HD-DVD authoring on a red laser disc. I've been making WMV/HD discs, which play on my red-laser DVD player, for the last two years now. Depending on the quality and material, I can fit well over an hour's worth of HD content on a red laser DVD (I typically burn hybrid DVDs, with 45-60 minutes of DVD, the same content in WMV/HD format).

The advantage of WMV/HD is that it plays on "advanced" red laser players, it plays on some blue-laser players (in theory, it should be playable on any, but they don't all necessarily recognize the format... kind of like SVCD back in the early days of DVD), and on PCs (they'll auto-start if you have a media center PC, XP Media Edition, Vista Pro, etc).

The down-side is that authoring is done by hand, in HTML and Javascript, and that's kind of a pain in the butt. Doable, but a whole lot of work compared to the usual simple authoring tool.

Is there a way to create a HD video file directly rather than create the HD-DVD files? My Buffalo DVD player can play a HD video file from my PC via network but it can't play a HD-DVD. I'm testing out doing slideshows that way.

Have you tried an WMV/HD disc in the Buffalo? Most commerical discs are DRMed with the evil Microsoft DRM, so they only work right on a PC, but you can get DRM-free WMV/HD discs from HD-Net. My IOData AVeL LinkPlayer2, a "super" red laser DVD player similar to the Buffalo, understands this format.

I've been making my own WMV/HD discs for about two years now, including dual format discs (HD and DVD content on the same disc... the IOData also understands that and asks which one you want to play). You can Google for the Microsoft spec page, but other than a $20,000 or so authoring tool from Sonic, you have to write these by hand. The video/audio is just a normal WMV file, but the navigation stuff is all HTML and Javascript.

Does this app allow the use of WMV9/VC-1 or AVC video, rendered in another application, without re-rendering? That's needed to get real HD-DVD authoring on a red laser disc.
No, MF5 and MF6 only author with MPEG2 files. I don't know of any inexpensive (or otherwise) program that will allow you create a red laser disk from VC-1 or AVC files.

People keep on asking this question about the new codecs and keep on implying that a MPEG2 based disk is not a real HD DVD. Perhaps the name of the thread should be changed?

I thought what we're describing in this thread is how to create a HD DVD from material you've recorded. I believe that if you record the material yourself it will be in a MPEG2 format.

If you rip an HD DVD then the file will be in another format. If you downloaded the file, then it could be in another format. MF5/6 will need to re-render these files.

The advantage of WMV/HD is that it plays on "advanced" red laser players, it plays on some blue-laser players...
Interesting! Which blue-lasers play them? I tried this some time ago and I know my Toshiba HD DVD player will not, and I know the XBox 360 will not. It would be great if I could find a player that did play them.

Thanks,
Tim

Can anyone PLEASE CONFIRM IF AND HOW THEY PLAY HD PAL SOURCED MPEG MOVIES ON THE HD E1.
The only way I can get the European PAL player to play my HD PAL sourced, edited and authored on MF6 IS TO CONVERT TO NTSC.
I loose too much quality and gain a jumpy result.
Toshiba are aware of this problem and cannot commit to when a firmware patch will be available.
I have tried all sorts of pal to ntsc conversion without what I'd call a good results.
Help much appreciated as I'm looking at selling my hd e1 due to this ongoing problem.
Thanks.

I don't know of any inexpensive (or otherwise) program that will allow you create a red laser disk from VC-1 or AVC files.

NERO 8 NeroVision 5
This is new BEST soft for authorinh HD DVD and BD
http://www.nero.com/enu/index.html

NERO 8 NeroVision 5
This is new BEST soft for authorinh HD DVD and BD
http://www.nero.com/enu/index.html

Am I missing something? I downloaded the trial, but don't see any HDDVD-related options. There is just AVCHD.

EDIT: Looks it will let you burn to HDDVDs, but there is no HDDVD authoring support at all.

my source files are hd PAL not vc1 nor avc but the HD E1 MUST HAVE NTSC HD MPEG2 SOURCED NOT PAL MPEG2.
I'm continuing to seek people that can assist with better pal to ntsc conversions via avisynth that the typical cce, procoder, tmpg etc that gives jumpy poor quality results.
My problem is this process including muxed audio, for me is not simple.
Help appreciated.
thanks.

Am I missing something? I downloaded the trial, but don't see any HDDVD-related options. There is just AVCHD.

EDIT: Looks it will let you burn to HDDVDs, but there is no HDDVD authoring support at all.
Haven't tried it yet, but it looks like you have to buy the Blu Ray / HD DVD Plug-in.

Nero 8 Ultra Edition
http://www.nero.com/enu/nero8-introduction.html

... High Definition format support
Xbox 360™ and PlayStation® 3
streaming features
Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD burning support
http://www.nero.com/enu/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html
http://www.nero.com/enu/multichannel-plugin.html
Play your favorite Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs on your PC *
Experience true High Definition video with brilliant images in Full HD (1080p)
Enjoy outstanding audio quality up to 5.1 channels with Dolby® Digital True HD 5.1
Create HD video on Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs and edit as you wish
Save time by modifying your authored Blu-ray and HD DVD videos right on the disc – no need to copy to another drive!
Record Blu-ray or HD DVD videos from your HDV or DV camcorder and customize it the way you like – add menus, playlists, etc., or just simply store in its raw, compressed format
Use highly interactive menus and other HD DVD advanced features throughout movie playback
This plug-in will enhance your Nero applications with the following technologies:
HD DVD-Video playback and authoring
Blu-ray Disc playback and authoring
MPEG-2 decoding/encoding**
VC-1 decoding
H.264 AVC decoding with AVC Film Grain
Dolby® Digital 5.1 decoding/encoding**
Dolby® Digital Plus 5.1 decoding
Dolby® TrueHD 5.1 decoding
DTS® Digital Surround 5.1 decoding
AACS Playback
** Also included in the retail version of Nero 8
* Blu-ray format supported is BD-AV (BD-RE 2.0 / BD-R 1.0). Authoring and editing support is available for BD-AV only.
http://www.hdtv.com.pl/forum/showthread.php?t=12516&page=8

Please advise: I would like to get HD content on a non HD DVD that I can play on an HD DVD player.

I have a Sony CX7 camcorder which records in AVCHD format. I tried downloading Ulead 6 in an effort to do what Aaron was describing (burning to an ISO image), but Ulead 6 caused problems with my Vista Ultimate OS (COM surrogate not working), so I removed Ulead 6. I've got Sony Vegas and DVD Architect. I can use DVD architect to create SD DVDs but how do I do what Aaron is doing? I've also got Roxio on my computer. I am hesitant to use Nero because that has also been associated with the COM surrogate error.

[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format ‘BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero8-release-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format ‘BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero8-release-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

Sounds nice, but there's no indication in the program of how to do this.

Edit: it's in the DVD project drop-down

Please advise: I would like to get HD content on a non HD DVD that I can play on an HD DVD player.

I have a Sony CX7 camcorder which records in AVCHD format.

I also have the Sony CX7 camcorder, which records onto memory sticks...no internal hard drive or DVD storage.

I would like to know how to get the video files off of the memory stick and into Video Studio. I downloaded the trial version, but can't find where I can pull the raw file off the memory stick into Video Studio.

I read through the Video Studio documentation, but it only mentioned connecting via an IEEE-1394 cable. While inspecting the CX7 camera, there is a mini-HDMI connection and another A/V out female socket that is in the shape of a capital "D".

I would like to pull the memory stick out of the camera, insert it into my card reader, and import it into Video Studio. How do I do it?

I found the answer to my own question in the Corel Support Knowledge Base:

To Import AVCHD Video from your HD Camera, follow these steps:

1. Launch VideoStudio 11.
2. Connect your camera to your computer via USB or Firewire cable, or insert your memory card in your card reader.
3. Once connected and recognized by your system, the camera will appear as a removable drive/mass storage device connected to your system, as will the card.
4. Select the Capture Tab in VideoStudio 11 and click on "Import DVD/DVD-VR"
5. In the "Select a DVD Title" Dialog box, press "Import DVD Folder..."
6. Browse to the removable drive that represents your camera or card,
7. Press the "+" symbol to display the subfolders, and select the "AVCHD" folder.
8. The "Import DVD" Screen will appear, select the clips to import by clicking in the check-box beside each clip number.
9. After the videos have been selected for import, press the import button at the bottom of this window.

Note : Depending on your system and the amount/size of the videos, step 9 can take a significant amount of time.
Your videos will now appear in your library in the top right-hand corner of your VideoStudio Editor interface, under the Video section of the drop-down menu. You can now drag these videos into your timeline or storyboards in the bottom half of the interface to continue with your video production.

my source files are hd PAL not vc1 nor avc but the HD E1 MUST HAVE NTSC HD MPEG2 SOURCED NOT PAL MPEG2.
I'm continuing to seek people that can assist with better pal to ntsc conversions via avisynth that the typical cce, procoder, tmpg etc that gives jumpy poor quality results.
My problem is this process including muxed audio, for me is not simple.
Help appreciated.
thanks.

If the source material is PAL 25fps Progressive this works:

demux the pal material so you have a m2v (Video) file and an mp2/ac3 (Audio) file

re-encode the video to NTSC resolutions (when dealing with SD DVD) 720x480but dont change the frame rate, leave it at 25fps :)

Heres the clever part, use the free app "DGPulldown" to add pulldown flags to the 25fps video file you have just re-encoded. Before you ask, yeah i know it sounds crazy but it works.


The beauty of this approach is the audio will sync up perfectly as the video duration is still the same :)

[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format ‘BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero8-release-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

I tried this, and it works terrific. Burned to DL +R and it plays on my A3 like a champ! The A3 reads it as a HD-DVD.

You've just got my attention !
I've spent almost a year now in trying to get a high quality hd pal to hd ntsc conversion for my hde1 to play 3x dvd.
Are you suggesting what you are doing does not require a frame rate conversion?
PLEASE TELL ME IT'S TRUE AND TELL ME MY HD E1 WILL PLAY IT.
If this is all true... well done and please tell the world how to do it... step by step.
thanks in advance

You've just got my attention !
I've spent almost a year now in trying to get a high quality hd pal to hd ntsc conversion for my hde1 to play 3x dvd.
Are you suggesting what you are doing does not require a frame rate conversion?
PLEASE TELL ME IT'S TRUE AND TELL ME MY HD E1 WILL PLAY IT.
If this is all true... well done and please tell the world how to do it... step by step.
thanks in advance


the above method requires no framerate conversion. I tried it on the PAL SD DVD "Men in Tights" which was unavailable at the time in Region 1 NTSC.

Give it a go with HD, what have you got to loose? the price of a blank :)

If the material is 1920x1080 25fps and progressive then you wont even have to re-encode at all. Give DGpulldown" a try on the demuxed "progressive" video

The latest Toshiba Laptop Cosmio G40 is equiped with Toshiba DVD Movie Writer software which is reported to support famous HD DVD REC option. Maybe it is reasonable to look for this very piece of software? Or it works only with Toshiba HD DVD drives? It would be nice to hear the owners of Cosmio G40.

Can we create discs encoded in something other than mpeg2 yet?

hi hdfruitcake.
I've tried the method you've outlined with dgpulldown to "redo" the flags.
Yes, it does allow the HD PAL content to be imported into MF6.
From there, with MF6 project set to NTSC (since this is unfortunately the only HD source that the HD E1 will play, the option comes up to alter the project settings to smart render.)
From here, I select smartrender (otherwise I suppose it would convert the PAL TO NTSC), and away to final disc goes.
All looks fine until the HDE1 plays the result.
Final quality is very jumpy, being a bit worse than the normally converted pal to ntsc sources that I've used.
The jumpy result is not caused by the disk type I don't believe as when this occurs, the jumpiness is much more speedy.
Ideas or other comments appreciated.
thanks.

50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

Quality HD content (concerts, balet, opera, music show) from Europe must be slowdowned from 25p to 23,976xxxxx
to be placed on HDDVD:rolleyes:

Instead to watch "Planet Earth" in original 1080p25 people have 23,976xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I know one producer who have desire release music shows 1080p25 on HDDVD (3xDVD) but he very sceptic about conversion original 25p to 23,976xxxxxxxxxxxxx with degradation of music quality.

vsv -
That old Roddy Piper/Meg Foster movie is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

hi hdfruitcake.
I've tried the method you've outlined with dgpulldown to "redo" the flags.
Yes, it does allow the HD PAL content to be imported into MF6.
From there, with MF6 project set to NTSC (since this is unfortunately the only HD source that the HD E1 will play, the option comes up to alter the project settings to smart render.)
From here, I select smartrender (otherwise I suppose it would convert the PAL TO NTSC), and away to final disc goes.
All looks fine until the HDE1 plays the result.
Final quality is very jumpy, being a bit worse than the normally converted pal to ntsc sources that I've used.
The jumpy result is not caused by the disk type I don't believe as when this occurs, the jumpiness is much more speedy.
Ideas or other comments appreciated.
thanks.

crapola. :(

Time to explore this option.

Can we create discs encoded in something other than mpeg2 yet?


Good Question! I'm ready to buy Nero and the plugin if it can do 720p H264 (in matroska) to mini DVD-R (with the same soundtrack from the mkv) and play it on my HD-DVD player... I downloaded the trial but it seems you can't trial the mini hd-dvd features (at least not that I can figure out)... and I'm not ready to shell out the cash unless I know it can do what I want!

vsv -
That old Roddy Piper/Meg Foster movie is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

"They Live" not movie is reality in my country...
TV and media under aliens control...

Yes, i wear glasses ;)

Good Question! I'm ready to buy Nero and the plugin if it can do 720p H264 (in matroska) to mini DVD-R (with the same soundtrack from the mkv) and play it on my HD-DVD player... I downloaded the trial but it seems you can't trial the mini hd-dvd features (at least not that I can figure out)... and I'm not ready to shell out the cash unless I know it can do what I want!

No, you cannot. Only 1920x1080 and 1440x1080. Either MPEG2 or MPEG4 is available. No DD+ either, only plain DD.

It is strange that lowest bitrate of mini HD DVD in Nero 8 is restricted to 15000. That makes this format almost useless for copying full-length films to DVD DL. Most of HD TV channels have bitrates from 8000 to 12000 (MPEG 4) and quite a descent picture quality. So if Nero would allow to make mini HD DVDs with bitrates al least starting from 10000, it'd became a really convenient and the cheapest way to save HD content. Moreover, it'd give a real advantage in the contest with BR. Don't really understand why Toshiba stopped/postponed introducing HD Rec specification into soft- and hardware.

It is strange that lowest bitrate of mini HD DVD in Nero 8 is restricted to 15000. That makes this format almost useless for copying full-length films to DVD DL. Most of HD TV channels have bitrates from 8000 to 12000 (MPEG 4) and quite a descent picture quality. So if Nero would allow to make mini HD DVDs with bitrates al least starting from 10000, it'd became a really convenient and the cheapest way to save HD content. Moreover, it'd give a real advantage in the contest with BR. Don't really understand why Toshiba stopped/postponed introducing HD Rec specification into soft- and hardware.
Yes, I agree it is odd that you cannot control the bitrates better. Why not allow us to assign any bitrate we want?

However, I didn't know that any US stations were broadcasting MPEG4. As far as I know, they're all doing MPEG2 and at the bitrates you're talking about they all look terrible. The 720P stations can get away with slightly lower bitrates, but the 1080I stations need as high as possible. At 16000 they start to look OK, but still have lots of obvious problems. At 19000 most of the problems are minimal, but still show up in live, action sports.

Is there any program that support HD DVD encoding with 23,976 fps or 24 fps.

Since I shoot in 25P, convert to 29,97 is not an option. But 23,976 is.

However, I didn't know that any US stations were broadcasting MPEG4. As far as I know, they're all doing MPEG2 and at the bitrates you're talking about they all look terrible. The 720P stations can get away with slightly lower bitrates, but the 1080I stations need as high as possible. At 16000 they start to look OK, but still have lots of obvious problems. At 19000 most of the problems are minimal, but still show up in live, action sports.

The fact is that I live in Ukraine and the few existing European HD broadcasters here are using MPEG 4 compression for HD transmissions. I came across the site (don't remember right now its adress) where one can get dinamic picture of bitrates for each Sat channel. So Polish version of Discovery HD has bitrates only from 8000 to 12000 KB/s (Mpeg 4), but quite nice picture on my 1368*765 Pioneer plasma (quality depends more on the content rather than on bitrate). The same about German Anix HD, Pro7 HD, Sat 1 HD and Polish Nsport HD. So, I'd be really satisfied with a possibility to author HD DVD discs with bitrates down to 10000 or even 8000, but only with MPEG 4 compression.

Hey folks, I burned a 1920x1080 broadcast to DVD+R, 25,000 kb/s for the video bitrate as reported by ffmpeg. It's actually from HEROES last episode which I recorded via QAM256.

Anyways, the audio on all my test burns are stuttering. Is it because I'm using DVD+R? Video playback is smooth but gets affected when audio stutters. To fix it, I will have to pause it. Then once I play it again, audio becomes fine.

I will try a different 1920x1080 source mpeg file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Hey folks, I burned a 1920x1080 broadcast to DVD+R, 25,000 kb/s for the video bitrate as reported by ffmpeg. It's actually from HEROES last episode which I recorded via QAM256.

Anyways, the audio on all my test burns are stuttering. Is it because I'm using DVD+R? Video playback is smooth but gets affected when audio stutters. To fix it, I will have to pause it. Then once I play it again, audio becomes fine.

I will try a different 1920x1080 source mpeg file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Did you edit commercials? If it fit in a DVD+R (not dual layer) then is not 25000kb/s. You can use Videoredo to cut commercials and the end it will tell you the bitrate, you can save the file changing the bitrate to a lower number if the real bitrate is not that high (say 15000). Then you can try again.

From the official AVS guide to HD DVD authoring (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146) they recommend that if you burn DVD+R then select bittseting to DVD-ROM but if you burn DVD+R then you select physical booktype to keep it as DVD+R DL. I just burn a DVD+R DL 2 days ago that the booktype changed to DVD-ROM and I get stutter at start and a hard freeze (had to unplug the unit), burn again without booktype change and it played flawless.

Again, burn:
- DVD+R with booktype DVD-ROM
- DVD+R DL without booktype (keep the physical booktype)

Did you edit commercials? If it fit in a DVD+R (not dual layer) then is not 25000kb/s. You can use Videoredo to cut commercials and the end it will tell you the bitrate, you can save the file changing the bitrate to a lower number if the real bitrate is not that high (say 15000). Then you can try again.

From the official AVS guide to HD DVD authoring (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146) they recommend that if you burn DVD+R then select bittseting to DVD-ROM but if you burn DVD+R then you select physical booktype to keep it as DVD+R DL. I just burn a DVD+R DL 2 days ago that the booktype changed to DVD-ROM and I get stutter at start and a hard freeze (had to unplug the unit), burn again without booktype change and it played flawless.

Again, burn:
- DVD+R with booktype DVD-ROM
- DVD+R DL without booktype (keep the physical booktype)

Yes, I cut the commercials using VideoRedo. Even when all the commercials were removed, the file still wouldn't fit my DVD+R(see pic below). What I had to do is VideoRedo it again and took the first 30 mins.

On that link which I followed, it mentions that on some machines, BookType can't be set. Mine can't be set(bummer) :( So I saw another post here from someone to use DVD-video rather than DVD(udf). Same results.

So I was thinking that maybe, the mpg file that VideoRedo created is bad. I uploaded it to my mythtv box and I used mplayer to play. It was very smooth and complete 5.1 ac3 audio.

So I don't know what I am doing wrong. I'll buy a few DVD-R disc later. :)

See video date rate
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8251/heroesmfinfoke4.png

The only thing is to try DVD-R and to make it fit you can try super mpeg2 transcoder.

Yes, I can confirm that from my testing the only way to get rid off the stutter on A3 is to use DVD-R. With DVD+Rs, no matter what method you used to burn, it seems to stutter in A3.

Another interesting note to keep in mind, so far all HDDVD players have been Toshiba. The only other two HDDVD players out there are LG and Samsung HDDVD/BD combo players. On them the bad news is that all DVD+/-R with 25mpbs content will stutter.

Yes, I cut the commercials using VideoRedo.


Did you also set the VideoReDo option, as described below?
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In the main menu, select Tools>Options. Hold down the shift key as you click on "Options." This will bring up one additional selection - "Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs... .") Click on this and change the value to "True."
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On my HD-A1 AC3 stutters if I do not...

Yes, I can confirm that from my testing the only way to get rid off the stutter on A3 is to use DVD-R. With DVD+Rs, no matter what method you used to burn, it seems to stutter in A3.

Another interesting note to keep in mind, so far all HDDVD players have been Toshiba. The only other two HDDVD players out there are LG and Samsung HDDVD/BD combo players. On them the bad news is that all DVD+/-R with 25mpbs content will stutter.

I'm excited. :D I'll get some DVD-Rs later. I'll keep you posted tonight.

Did you also set the VideoReDo option, as described below?
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In the main menu, select Tools>Options. Hold down the shift key as you click on "Options." This will bring up one additional selection - "Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs... .") Click on this and change the value to "True."
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On my HD-A1 AC3 stutters if I do not...

Yep, I did. :)

Anyone tried doing this using a Mac? If so how? I couldn't find how to searching each of the threads. Thanks.

Yes, I cut the commercials using VideoRedo. Even when all the commercials were removed, the file still wouldn't fit my DVD+R(see pic below).I have gone another step with VRD. Cut off the end credits (usually squeezed anyway and I save for later seperately) and sometimes the beginning recap (recap for idiots in many cases). Additionally, the repetative cast and credits intro section (30 to 60 seconds on some shows), usually has no bearing on the episode. I get "Heroes" down to a single disk per episode this way.

By saving the cut pieces as data files, I preserve the future option to recreate the whole show but when watching successive shows, I prefer to skip those parts anyway. I know what happened 15 minutes ago and I don't need reminding who the actors are, and I definitely don't need the coming spoilers and voiceovers on the unreadable credits. (OK, in HD maybe you can read squeezed credits as long as your local station didn't drop to SD for promos, but the commercial disk sets probably aren't going to have "Next On ... either)

Anyone tried doing this using a Mac? If so how? I couldn't find how to searching each of the threads. Thanks.If you mean editing captured .mpg/.ts/.m2t files of TV shows, Mpeg Streamclip (http://www.squared5.com/) should do the trick nicely.

As far as authoring, DVD Studio Pro 4 is the only current way to burn compliant HD DVD discs (to DVD-R) on the Mac. I think DVDSP4 only comes bundled in a rather expensive suite (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=BC1B807C&fnode=home/shop_mac/software/pro_design&nplm=MA886Z/A) anymore, otherwise I'd snatch it up.

Is there any program that support HD DVD encoding with 23,976 fps or 24 fps.

Since I shoot in 25P, convert to 29,97 is not an option. But 23,976 is.

I think HD DVD at 24p involves some sort of pulldown and is contained in a 29.97 stream. If you were to add pulldown using another program in the format that HD DVD is expecting you might be able to get Ulead to pass the file unaltered. That is our plan anyway for the calibration disk. For an actual 24p video file, it's not supported by HD DVD and Ulead will want to convert it even for Blu-ray which does allow 24p video without using pulldown.

Did you edit commercials? If it fit in a DVD+R (not dual layer) then is not 25000kb/s. You can use Videoredo to cut commercials and the end it will tell you the bitrate, you can save the file changing the bitrate to a lower number if the real bitrate is not that high (say 15000). Then you can try again.

From the official AVS guide to HD DVD authoring (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146) they recommend that if you burn DVD+R then select bittseting to DVD-ROM but if you burn DVD+R then you select physical booktype to keep it as DVD+R DL. I just burn a DVD+R DL 2 days ago that the booktype changed to DVD-ROM and I get stutter at start and a hard freeze (had to unplug the unit), burn again without booktype change and it played flawless.

Again, burn:
- DVD+R with booktype DVD-ROM
- DVD+R DL without booktype (keep the physical booktype)

You should use "physical disc type" for all + media (DVD+R and DVD+R DL). This has been proven time and time again to be the best method to remove stuttering.

Yes, I can confirm that from my testing the only way to get rid off the stutter on A3 is to use DVD-R. With DVD+Rs, no matter what method you used to burn, it seems to stutter in A3.

Another interesting note to keep in mind, so far all HDDVD players have been Toshiba. The only other two HDDVD players out there are LG and Samsung HDDVD/BD combo players. On them the bad news is that all DVD+/-R with 25mpbs content will stutter.

This is not necessarily always the case...yes, you're right, it may depend on content. But I have authored dozens of homebrew discs. I use DVD+R and DVD+R DLs with the book type set to "physical disc type" and I never get stuttering on my A2 or A3.

YMMV.

Chris

No, you cannot. Only 1920x1080 and 1440x1080. Either MPEG2 or MPEG4 is available. No DD+ either, only plain DD.

So, the plug-in (I already own Nero 8 Ultra.) will allow me to burn AVC or VC-1 1080i (likely transcoded from MPEG2 or WMV) onto a DVD-R to play back in my HD DVD player?

...I have authored dozens of homebrew discs. I use DVD+R and DVD+R DLs with the book type set to "physical disc type" and I never get stuttering on my A2 or A3.

YMMV.

Chris

Chris, I imagine we are talking about the 25 mbps HDV content, right?

Another point to consider: Movie Factory tries to recode anything higher than 20 mbps. Not only does that take forever, but it can introduce lip-sync and stutter problems. I make it a habit to check with HDpatch and if necessary patch the first header to 18 or so. Then MF will accept it as compliant and those problems are avoided.

I think HD DVD at 24p involves some sort of pulldown and is contained in a 29.97 stream. If you were to add pulldown using another program in the format that HD DVD is expecting you might be able to get Ulead to pass the file unaltered. That is our plan anyway for the calibration disk. For an actual 24p video file, it's not supported by HD DVD and Ulead will want to convert it even for Blu-ray which does allow 24p video without using pulldown.

Any tip what the spec should be if im gonna be able to import the movie?

I-frames, profiles etc?

So, the plug-in (I already own Nero 8 Ultra.) will allow me to burn AVC or VC-1 1080i (likely transcoded from MPEG2 or WMV) onto a DVD-R to play back in my HD DVD player?


The answer is yes but Nero makes it not very usefull. They do not allow coding at less that 15 megabits/sec. Frequently when starting with broadcast MPEG2, the storage needed is often more than the original file.

Right now Nero and the plug in was a $80 waste of money for me.

hey folks,

It's just the other day that I got a DVD-R. And yes, the culprit was my DVD+R. I've already burned 1920x1080 and 1280x720 mythtv recordings without any issues. I didn't even run HDPatch for the 1280x720.

Here are the steps I used.


1.) Display info about the video you want to put on HDDVD disc

[root@localhost recordings]# ffmpeg -i 3161_20071115210000.mpg
Input #0, mpegts, from '3161_20071115210000.mpg':
Duration: 00:59:57.2, start: 51005.482411, bitrate: 10506 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x800]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 1280x720 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s, 59.94 tb(r)
Stream #0.1[0x801]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 384 kb/s


2.) Convert ts format to ps using ffmpeg but don't resize resolution, just do copy

[root@localhost recordings]# ffmpeg -i 3161_20071115210000.mpg -t 3300 -vcodec copy -acodec copy jewel.vob


3.) Rename the vob file to mpg so that MF can see it

[root@localhost recordings]# mv jewel.vob jewel.mpg


4.) Display info about the file you converted to make sure everything is still intact. The file is jewel.mpg

[root@localhost recordings]# ffmpeg -i jewel.mpg
Input #0, mpeg, from 'jewel.mpg':
Duration: 00:55:00.5, start: 0.500000, bitrate: 10422 kb/s
Stream #0.0[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 384 kb/s
Stream #0.1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 1280x720 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s, 59.94 tb(r)


5.) Opened Movie Factory and created a new HDDVD disc. Then I followed the instructions on one of the HDDVD authoring thread.

6.) Burn DVD-UDF using Nero.

I am keen to try the 'HD on DVD-R' method shown in this thread posted by Joseph Clark. All my computer HD sources are in .mkv container format. Can anyone point me to the most elegant way to convert/use my mkv files into any of the formats accepted by Womble MPEG2VCR? I have tried a program called 'MKV to AVI Converter' but I stopped the process when the file went past 40GB during conversion (an episode of LOST). Something tells me creating such huge files is doing it wrong...
Appreciate any advice.

Now that HD-DVD is a "dead format" it is a shame that a request thread could not be created for 'ISO',s so people like myself that don't have the correct hardware to process the files could request media files they could burn themselves...

Unlike my former networked "Replay-TV PVR" or the new "Griffen HD/HDMI-PVR" which uses media cards (no 5.1 but read there will be a software update to allow for 5.1?).. I have yet to find/read how to get HD/5.1 files off of a DirecTVHD+DVR.

--David

Just in case you gentlemen didn't notice, there is a main "sticky" thread for this at the top of the HD DVD Software page.......;)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146

You should use "physical disc type" for all + media (DVD+R and DVD+R DL). This has been proven time and time again to be the best method to remove stuttering.

I have had my A1 HD DVD player for almost 2 years in the past I've always used booktype DVD-ROM for both DVD and HD DVD for home created videos that played find on the A1. About 2 weeks ago I received my XA2 and my 2nd XA2 today only to find out that all my DVD+R DL HD DVDs stutter. :(

I did a quick search on the forum and found this post. I changed the booktype to "physical disc type" and re-burned my HD DVDs and now playback perfectly! :)

Thank-You! ;)
...Angelo

if i have a movie in wmv and want to convert it to mpeg2 which would you guys say would be a good converter to use.
thanks

This is not necessarily always the case...yes, you're right, it may depend on content. But I have authored dozens of homebrew discs. I use DVD+R and DVD+R DLs with the book type set to "physical disc type" and I never get stuttering on my A2 or A3.

YMMV.

Chris

This is no use in the EP-30 as sold in the UK (last f/w 2.0) which requires the BookType to be DVD-ROM for DVD+R DLs or the player simply rejects the disc.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13513606#post13513606

anyone care to help me on that ? i asked
thanks

anyone care to help me on that ? i asked
thanks



Nero Vision 4 or 5
or
Elecard Converter Studio AVC HD Edition

These can output HD mpeg2 up to 1920 x 1080 (which may not be what you want - who can tell from a post with as little info as that)


Both do a decent job

my post above was this, if i have a movie in wmv and want to convert it to mpeg2 which would you guys say would be a good converter to use.
thanks

i have a 720p file with dts sound that is in avi and wmv that i want to put onto a disc
thanks

Anyone tried doing this using a Mac? If so how? I couldn't find how to searching each of the threads. Thanks.UPDATE: Looks like this just got really affordable for you......

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/toast/titanium/watch.html


I've yet to try it myself, though.

Is there any program that support HD DVD encoding with 23,976 fps or 24 fps.

Since I shoot in 25P, convert to 29,97 is not an option. But 23,976 is.

I use TmepgEnc4XP to convert TS stream with HD content to mpg files.
I try to keep as close to the original as possible.
I then use the Womble Mpeg Video wizard DVD to make my own HD DVDs.
The Video wizard has an option to make DVDs with a nonstandard format. So you can make vob-files in your VIDEO_TS map with bitrates of 30000 :) .
My Toshiba HD-EP10 reads this as regular DVD but you still have the high bitrates.
And I always use 25 fps. If I use 23,976 the picture does not flow.

Regards
Dobiedo

Can someone tell me where can i find a link on how to capture a high definition MPEG2 video clip

Thanks Dobiedo.

Even if the reason to encode has gotten less important now.

my post above was this, if i have a movie in wmv and want to convert it to mpeg2 which would you guys say would be a good converter to use.
thanks

i have a 720p file with dts sound that is in avi and wmv that i want to put onto a disc
thanks

AVS4You works VERY well for WMV to MPEG2. I can't speak for the sound, though.

http://www.avs4you.com/

Download the video converter for free. The unregistered version will put an annoying watermark in the middle of your screen.

http://www.avs4you.com/AVS-Video-Converter.aspx