Here is the HD-A1 via HDMI to an ISF'd Mitsubishi HC3000u on a 120" HiPower screen . Keep in mind these are compressed pictures (down to 640x480) and taken with a 2.1 megapixel camera .

http://home.comcast.net/~jlcburg3/wsb/media/19852/site1215.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~jlcburg3/wsb/media/19852/site1216.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~jlcburg3/wsb/media/19852/site1217.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~jlcburg3/wsb/media/19852/site1218.JPG


Please feel free to add more shots , we all know that screen shots are fun to look at even if they do not do the real image justice :) .

---------- Jason

could you post comparison shots from a regular dvd movie just to see the difference

could you post comparison shots from a regular dvd movie just to see the difference

Lol do you really think you're gonna see a diff from a 640x480 photo. We need actual Hardware screenshot to compare.. not photo..

Btw. nice photo, i didn't want to downgrade the fact that you've post photo, just the fact that a comparison dvd vs hddvd via photo isn't really doable..

I was waiting for a screenshots thread! Those cannons look amazing. :eek:

Nice screen shots. Thanks Jason.

Even from that photo it's obviously a better picture than SD-DVD.

I agree and can see the difference.

Thursday cannot come fast enough now!

Here are some comparison photos between TLS HDDVD and SDDVD on the HDA1.
They are only from a small part of the image so you can see right down to the
pixels on the display (Sharp 45" LCD).

8Mpixel images in which pixels can be seen:
SD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/sddvdz1.jpg
HD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/hddvdz1.jpg


8Mpixel images after low pass filter to hide pixels:
SD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/sddvdz1LPF.jpg
HD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/hddvdz1LPF.jpg

600x700 crop of first set shown below: left=HD, right=SD
SD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/sddvdz1z.jpg
HD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/hddvdz1z.jpg

http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/ab.jpg

And another comparision:
http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/ab.gif
(edited to correct left/right error)

Well done Mike and Jason!

I posted a couple of close up shots with "The Phantom of the Opera" with a Sony Ruby (VW-100 1080p projector) elsewhere, but I'll put them here too.


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2359/hdordvd10my.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdordvd10my.jpg)

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2792/hdordvd27br.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdordvd27br.jpg)

You guys can hopefully figure out which is HD and which is DVD. If not, just look at the guys in the 3rd row or the lady on the right.

--Darin

Indeed. This is excellent work, especially you Mike.

Amir

Here's an animated version comparing Darins's shots:
http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/poto.gif

Was that someone from Mystery Science Theater in those shots?

Here's an animated version comparing Darins's shots:Thanks Mike. I was looking at the HD one in that animated sequence and it didn't look as good to me as I thought it did before. Then I compared it to the one that is being hosted and it looks like there has been a loss of detail and I think even color in going to the animated version. For instance, the guy's helmet on the right is more defined with less artifacts than in the animated version. It is especially obvious on the armor on the guy 3 people back on the left that the original has been compressed pretty significantly in going to the animated version.

--Darin

Thanks guys for the Comparisons :)

steve
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Nice work on the detailed shots Mike !

----------- Jason

Thanks guys for the Comparisons :)

steve
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Steve your controller looks amazing!

I recorded "Phantom of the Opera" from HBO-HD this afternoon for a direct comparison.

I've got them playing in sync and with the remote I'm toggling back and forth between the HD-DVD and HD-DVR (Motorola 6412). Both deinterlaced to 1080p using Lumagen VisionHDP scaler to my G90. Both players freeze-frame without jaggies.

I went to go get my camera for some screenshots, but it's in my wife's car from our vacation last week and she's at a friend's house.

The difference is noticeable and will show up on a close-up screenshot (once my camera comes back home).

I've also got "Last Samurai" in 1080i from my DVR on my media server, so I'll stream the .ts through my XBox360 and post screenshots from that comparison too, probably this weekend. I was up until 2am this morning watching that HD-DVD.

Got to be honest, great comparison, but the difference does not make me want to rush out & buy it. I'd love to see a HTPC ruuning the SD DVD with TT 2.2 GeForce 6600GT + FFDshow tweaked as the comparison.

I am struggling to justify the excitement. It's nothing like VHS to DVD upgrade. If the discs wern't $10+ more expensive then it would be a no brainer to upgarde.

This was harder than I thought... the results don't show as I expected.

Here's a frame (at 7m:39s on the HD-DVD) extracted from the HBO broadcast (1080i captured using VideoRedo as 540 lines to eliminate deinterlacing)...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7629/phantomoftheopera7th.th.png (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7629/phantomoftheopera7th.png)

Here's the area of the screen I set the tripod in front of to get a closeup...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8545/phantomframemask9ul.jpg

Here's a crop of the highlighted area in the .ts frame above, resized to width=640...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7782/phantom06403yo.jpg

And then here are my screenshots... at a slight angle (to eliminate shadow from the tripod) and with the camera 1 foot from the screen...

Here's "source #1" resized to width=640...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6481/phantom16406de.jpg

Here's "source #2" resized to width=640...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5070/phantom26408pg.jpg

Which is HBO-HD and which is HD-DVD?

My guess is Source #1 = HD-DVD

--------- Jason

My guess is Source #1 = HD-DVD I would guess that too, but that scene looks like a reasonably easy one to compress. I know it has some fine detail, but it looks like a lot of fairly uniform stuff too.

Unfortunately, this stuff can be hard to capture and show here. I plan to get 2 HD-DVD players (one for my theater and one for my living room setup and taking places). Then I can play a DVD or burned HD disk on one with an HD-DVD disk on the other, set a repeat loop on each, and then switch between them with the same input on the projector to make sure color settings, etc., are the same.

--Darin

Here's a screenshot of the Serenity DVD vs. HDDVD. Both being played on the A1. Output as 1080i over HDMI to a Toshiba 62HM195 displaying as 1080p. These are the unedited jpegs as they came off a 6.3 megapixel Canon Digital Rebel (sorry for the angle being slightly different and not directly head-on).

Removed the link to the zip file. Clarence posted a smaller section of the images 4 posts below this one. Thanks Clarence.

I don't know if those images would make me want to run out and get one, but seeing the video in action is a bit more impressive. There is some banding visible on Serenity, not quite as obvious on Phantom of the Opera.

Here's a screenshot of the Serenity DVD vs. HDDVD. Both being played on the A1. Output as 1080i over HDMI to a Toshiba 62HM195 displaying as 1080p. These are the unedited jpegs as they came off a 6.3 megapixel Canon Digital Rebel (sorry for the angle being slightly different and not directly head-on).

Zip (http://js.ofasoft.com/serenity_hddvd.zip)

I don't know if those images would make me want to run out and get one, but seeing the video in action is a bit more impressive. There is some banding visible on Serenity, not quite as obvious on Phantom of the Opera.

If someone says they can't tell the difference in those two pictures then I suggest they buy themselves a cane and dark glasses.

jstelly ,

Nice comparison shots , and a very obvious difference IMO .

----------- Jason

Here's a screenshot of the Serenity DVD vs. HDDVD. Both being played on the A1. Output as 1080i over HDMI to a Toshiba 62HM195 displaying as 1080p. These are the unedited jpegs as they came off a 6.3 megapixel Canon Digital Rebel (sorry for the angle being slightly different and not directly head-on).

Zip (http://js.ofasoft.com/serenity_hddvd.zip)

I don't know if those images would make me want to run out and get one, but seeing the video in action is a bit more impressive. There is some banding visible on Serenity, not quite as obvious on Phantom of the Opera.

Great comparison shot! I first looked at the DVD shot only and thought "Not bad", but then I looked at the HD-DVD and flipped back and forth. My first thought was the DVD looks more like someone video taped it with a camcorder in the theater when you compare it to the HD-DVD! I won't be buying one probably til the end of the year. But even if this is a niche format like LD(which I dont think it will) I have no hesitation about diving in.

Here's a screenshot of the Serenity DVD vs. HDDVD. Both being played on the A1.Nice job.

For anyone who didn't download the zip file, here's an unresized comparison of the top-right corner of jstelly's screenshots...

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8102/jstelly0uq.gif

My guess is Source #1 = HD-DVD
Nope. Like I said when I posted... "the results don't show as I expected".
Source #1 = HBO-HD
Source #2 = HD-DVD

Hi Guy's,

For those without a player, (most of us!) there is a very nice little "VIDEO" segment of Warner's overlaying menu system in action on TLS on the Toshiba XA1/A1 posted by member Jeff Williams (Thanks Jeff!) in post #26 on this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=668494 ........... This sure looks SWEET in operation & the audible button clicks are a very nice touch!

That XA1 sure looks SWEET too!!!!

Keith.

The reason why I knew the HD DVD image was the bottom one was the film grain is more pronounced. The HBO image is more filtered (smoothed) it seems and in a close up like that sometimes the smoothed image looks "better".

The point is though, that there is a difference between the two and I am sure what you are seeing is a sharper image with HD DVD when compared to HBO. The camera just doesn't show it as well as real life.

-Mark

Nope. Like I said when I posted... "the results don't show as I expected".
Source #1 = HBO-HD
Source #2 = HD-DVD

I'm presuming that HBO-HD is MPEG2 and HD-DVD is VC-1? I would have expected the same as you clarenece.

Jstelly, I can't get your zip file to d/l

I plan to get 2 HD-DVD players (one for my theater and one for my living room setup and taking places). Then I can play a DVD or burned HD disk on one with an HD-DVD disk on the other, set a repeat loop on each, and then switch between them with the sameI'm just now looking into options for burning HD disks for the A1. Do you plan on re-authoring a .ts using ulead then burning to DVD-R or is there another method I should look into?

Here are some comparison photos between TLS HDDVD and SDDVD on the HDA1.
They are only from a small part of the image so you can see right down to the
pixels on the display (Sharp 45" LCD).

600x700 crop of first set shown below: left=SD, right=HD
SD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/sddvdz1z.jpg
HD: http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/hddvdz1z.jpg



Brosnan,

I believe you meant left=HD and right=SD for the two closeup 600x700 head shots from The Last Samurai.

Also, for the HD shots, remember that the A1 can only pause on a field and not frame unfortunately - so you are seeing interlaced elements showing up especially along the edges of many of the HD shots.

-Dan

http://audioworx.virtualave.net/Serenity5.jpg

Thomas-W,

What an incredible looking shot that is!

Razor sharp with a ton of detail!

Brad

Wow (in spite of it being an overly-lit scene), you can see the peach-fuzz on her face!

Who's that extra character in the Samurai shot? I don't see that in the DVD version. :)

Brosnan,

I believe you meant left=HD and right=SD ...
-Dan

Thanks for catching that error. I edited the post. And yes, it's clear now that still frames have worse resolution/jaggies than while playing. We'll need a ~1 second non-panning shot in a movie to capture more realistic images.

Made some animated stills myself.

SD-Serenity played off Yamaha DVD-C350 progressive player over component.
HD-Serenity played over HDMI cable, player set to 1080i

TV, Sony 55inch 55xs955, 768p.

Due to the pause stills with Yamaha player not having all the scan lines I had to take the stills while the movie was playing, so I did the same with the shots from the HD-DVD to be fair.

So here are some cropped segments of two stills, and a link to a large full shot animated gif. 2 second delay and because of gif format, some detail is lost.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/ship2.gif

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/ship.gif

Link to the full shot of the above segments, still animated and big:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/ship_3.gif


http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/town_1.gif

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/town_2.gif

Again, link to full shot of above gifs, animated again.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/town_3.gif

I now feel the original dvd looks horrible, or the Yamaha I paid $300 for looks horrible. The SD DVD just looks soft (obvious), but even worse the colors seem muted and overall darker with crushing. I'll try putting the SD version in the HDA1 to see if there is a change, maybe the yamaha dvd player is at fault.

nice pics everyone YES I do believe there is slight difference those folks reviewing this or anyone in general (mainly Mrsmith) can not see the difference for damn reason if I can see the diff how come those folks cant? I seen in side by side in best buy and noticed a difference look at the pixels and the clarity.

TimB,

excellent shots, most of the other comparison posted here were pause mode which really don't do it justice. How did you do this by the way?

John.

TimB,

excellent shots, most of the other comparison posted here were pause mode which really don't do it justice. How did you do this by the way?

John.

I wish I had a tripod, but I put a thin box on my coffee table where I placed the camera on. I set the camera (average Sony digital snapshot camera 5.1megapixel) to manual, with a little under exposure and the ISO set to 400, the highest speed it can go. Also, because I need to try and get the same spot in motion I couldn't use the timer, this means there might be a little shake as I hold the button down for focus and more when I take the shot because the box it was on is flexible. I'm sure I could have timed the timer if I had more time. Also, a faster ISO would have been nice to prevent natural motion blur for the exposure length.

The annoying part about this setup with HDMI, if I change the tv to the other source for regular DVD I get an HDMI error on the HDA1, so no quick A and B switching, but that wasn't needed, the second I was watching the SD I knew it and don't know how I watched this before.

On SD in the 4th chapter "going for a ride", they do a walking shot showing the floating vehicle underside as they work on it, the SD version was like, yeah, that's a cool device but nothing special, but the HD it suddently was like, wow, that's looks real and alive, more suddle motion, better color and depth, just seemed more pronounced.

So after taking the photos, not the sharpest camera in the world, I overlayed them in Photoshop and moved them into ImageReady to animate.

If I didn't work today I might have asked for my dad to bring over his Nikon Digital SLR cameras, D100 and a new one I think he just got, and a tripod to take some really fast shots and clarity.

I'll do more later and try to get a tripod, last night I stopped because HD Serenity locked up again while faster forwarding and rewinding and hitting play so many times. That reminds me, it might still be on over night locked up.

I'll do more later and try to get a tripod, last night I stopped because HD Serenity locked up again while faster forwarding and rewinding and hitting play so many times. That reminds me, it might still be on over night locked up.My HD-DVD locked up too from doing 3 or 4 ffwd/rew while looking for a screenshot scene.

The popup menus still worked, but even when I chose another chapter, it stayed frozen. I had to cycle the power.

My HD-DVD locked up too from doing 3 or 4 ffwd/rew while looking for a screenshot scene.

The popup menus still worked, but even when I chose another chapter, it stayed frozen. I had to cycle the power.

Yeah, that's what happens to me, atleast with the Serenity movie an not others. I even tried changing the tv to get the HDMI error which appeared on the HDA1 display but it still stayed locked up, holding the power button 10 seconds shut it off.

As with the above shot, taken with a 10MP camera and cropped to be a more reasonable size for the net....


http://audioworx.virtualave.net/Serenity4.jpg

Holy cow! that's an amazing looking picture of River.

Holy cow! that's an amazing looking picture of River.

It looks just like standard TV to me and I will wait for Blu-Ray. Oh wait I had my eyes and mind closed now I see the difference. :D

That is a great shot for sure.

It looks just like standard TV to me and I will wait for Blu-Ray. Oh wait I had my eyes and mind closed now I see the difference. :D

That is a great shot for sure.

my shot is just as good...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/rapunzel_1/100_0361.jpg

These are the most impressive comparisons in all the years on the forum for me ! Thanks very much for the great work guys. :)

Art

Wow (in spite of it being an overly-lit scene), you can see the peach-fuzz on her face!

Yes, you can see hairs on her nose (peach-fuzz) crazy!

Here are some additional cropped comparisons between standard and HD DVDs of TLS, both played on the HDA1 and a Sharp 45" LCD . This time I did not pause - just found scenes with little movement. Look at the roof for example. HD on the left (or first depending on your window width).

http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/r1.jpg http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/r2.jpg

and a little more subtle here, but still better in HD:

http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/m1.jpghttp://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/m2.jpg

losing a little color accuracy going to animated GIF:
http://www.wb5mrn.com/tv/hda1/m.gif

Thanks for the nice shots - if this is bleading edge/first out of the gate, we're in for a treat when the players & media evolve a little further.

E

I have an SD and HD copy of POTO, LS, and Serenity (which I've taken some of already).

Tonight I plan to use a tripod this time.

Though, I haven't seen LS yet, if I were to flip through it quickly for some good shots, but stayed away from the end, Is there still a chance of accidently seeing a big spoiler?

This is great guys. thanks for your efforts, its quite clear to see the difference.
If possible could you post the Display model ie like Sony ruby, optoma H79. would just give a nice indication as to what others could expect from there displays.
And if you have done that already then....thanks

But please keep it comming

This is great guys. thanks for your efforts, its quite clear to see the difference.
If possible could you post the Display model ie like Sony ruby, optoma H79. would just give a nice indication as to what others could expect from there displays.
And if you have done that already then....thanks

... and also the player/connection used for the SD comparative shots?

... and also the player/connection used for the SD comparative shots?I hope that those who have the HD-DVD player connected through HDMI or DVI will also use that same exact connection and output resolution from the HD-DVD player for the SD shots. That way we don't have to deal with differences in calibration, quality of various inputs on the displays (some displays have better digital inputs than component inputs and vis versa in my experience), etc. For people who have better SD players (like an HTPC) that would be interesting too, but hopefully they will make it clear that the players, calibration, input used, etc. are different.

--Darin

maybe the yamaha dvd player is at fault.

What is a Yamaha C-350? Certainly glad I never bought one of those, I have never had a picture that looks that crappy from any dvd player I have ever had.

What is a Yamaha C-350? Certainly glad I never bought one of those, I have never had a picture that looks that crappy from any dvd player I have ever had.

I'll double check the quality of SD Serenity on the HDA1, maybe even with the XBOX 360 to see if it looks better than the Yamaha. I original bought the yamaha with more focus on reviews based on the DVD-Audio and Super Audio CD performance, video quality in the reviews seemed to be above average, not perfect (rare), but not bad.

TLS really doesn't look to be the best of transfers from those shots, better, but I can see why some might say they couldn't see much difference...

John.

Last month, we had an expo here in Montreal and Toshiba had a display to demo the HD-A1. This shot was taken from a Toshiba 37" LCD display (720p). The demo offered several shots of SD and HD side by side (within the same 16.9 picture). Here's one of the shots I took:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD1.jpg

There's some terrible aliasing in that shot.

There's some terrible aliasing in that shot.

Would you prefer this one of non at all?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD4.jpg

As mrsmith would say, "I cant tell the difference whats your point?"

Would you prefer this one of non at all?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD4.jpg

Better, but still looks to have some aliasing, maybe something to do with scaling you've applied? Anyway I think the Serenity A/B comparison shot on the previous page paint a very good picture.

What I would really like to see though is A/B comparison shots from a more state of the art system e.g. Ruby + VXP based processor (e.g. CrystalioII or D2).

Later,
John.

I took a bunch of shots last night of HD Serenity, but fell asleep before I got to the SD version.

One shot that really impressed me was that temple on the hill side, with trees, waterfalls, sharp architectual detail.

If we haven't been impressed by now, that Universal logo at the begining of the Serenity disc shows how good it can look, it all just depends on the film. The Serenity film is a little soft, but the cg shots are pretty sharp. I kind of prefer the nice film look HD provides, and better color and blacks, it's just about right to where you're not distracted by the skin on someones face. I can't imagine what a perfect razer sharp 1080p image looks like on a 50+ inch 1080p tv of a closeup face shot, are they going to have rules to purposely blur those shots so you don't get digusted by too much detail where it's unatural?

Last month, we had an expo here in Montreal and Toshiba had a display to demo the HD-A1. This shot was taken from a Toshiba 37" LCD display (720p). The demo offered several shots of SD and HD side by side (within the same 16.9 picture). Here's one of the shots I took:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD1.jpg

Thanks for getting those shots, but it's really hard to make a good comparison with the image being smaller that SD resolution. But to a suprise you can tell some difference already. Though, it looks like you scaled it down with nearist-neighbor style processing and then used a sharp filter to overkill.

How did you process those images?

Thanks for getting those shots, but it's really hard to make a good comparison with the image being smaller that SD resolution. But to a suprise you can tell some difference already. Though, it looks like you scaled it down with nearist-neighbor style processing and then used a sharp filter to overkill.

How did you process those images?

The first photo was shot in resolution 2272 x 1704. Using Corel Presentation, I reduced it to 600 x 450 for a file size of 196 Kb. Same procedure for the second shot and the file size is 211 Kb.

Here's a third shot using the same procedure:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD003.jpg

Ok, I think the scaling SW you're using isn't filtering correctly, hence the aliasing.

John.

Instead of scaling the pictures at all, you might be better off cropping a section if the picture to post... for example, just around the red flower above, since it stradles the HD/SD line.

But I've seen that original "HD vs simulated SD" demo disk. It's poorly executed. Digital camera screenshots of it make it even less effective. Resizing the screenshots down to 450 pixels makes it even worse.

if anyone is doing more shots with digital cams - don't use 400 (or higher iso) unless you have an SLR quality camera. introduces way too much artifact noise and doesn't do the source justice.

Love that photo of River, I remember that scene well !!!

Instead of scaling the pictures at all, you might be better off cropping a section if the picture to post... for example, just around the red flower above, since it stradles the HD/SD line.

But I've seen that original "HD vs simulated SD" demo disk. It's poorly executed. Digital camera screenshots of it make it even less effective. Resizing the screenshots down to 450 pixels makes it even worse.

The following was cropped from the original. However Photobucket reduced the size from 353 Kb to 116 Kb :

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/mfabien/HDDVD3crop.jpg

That's better. I still don't like the simulated demo disc, much less digicam shots of it, but if you want to, you can use http://imageshack.us - they'll host pictures up to 1Mb

Hey,

I saw that demo disc that Mfabien is posting shots from at Best buy and it's really no anywhere near usefull. They "simulate" the standard definition stuff by de-focus-ing it and it's pretty bogus. However,... Like I said, .. I saw it as Best Buy so if you have a local best buy you can go check it out pretty easily firsthand.

They had the HD player hooked up to a plasma and I think my best buy did a good job or provide-ing a place for me to demo the thing. Chances are there's a best buy near you that has something similar all setup.

-Brian

http://audioworx.virtualave.net/Serenity5.jpg

Any reason you flipped the image? IIRC she gave that look on the left side of the screen looking the other way.

Any reason you flipped the image? IIRC she gave that look on the left side of the screen looking the other way.

Good point !! I assume this was at the end when the Alliance crashed through that wall ???

Were these shots already posted?

http://sales.highendpalace.com/6301.jpg
http://sales.highendpalace.com/6302.jpg
http://sales.highendpalace.com/6305.jpg

HD-AX1 - Faroudja DVP-1080

from highendpalace's site.

Cleanest shots I've seen so far. Wow

Cleanest shots I've seen so far. Wow
there ok I will try to do better come thursday :D :)

Cleanest shots I've seen so far. Wow

As a result of the upscaler or the actual HD-DVD itself?

Either way, if those aren't doctored, they look fantastic. I didn't see that clean of an image on my setup for Samurai (good chunk of film grain, not resolution of the image). Those shots look like they were done from a film recorded with an HD Camera. Very nice and impressive.

Were these shots already posted?

http://sales.highendpalace.com/6301.jpg
http://sales.highendpalace.com/6302.jpg
http://sales.highendpalace.com/6305.jpg

HD-AX1 - Faroudja DVP-1080



from highendpalace's site:

Stunning picture samples of the TOSHIBA HD-AX1 HD Player connected to a Faroudja DVP-1080 HD Reference Upscaler converting 1080i to clean progressive format. Picture projected 15.5 feet away on a 120" DNP Supernova Reference Screen.

With shots like these...I'm thinking plastic surgeons, personal trainers and the like are going to be working overtime to help Hollywood overcome the remarkable detail being rendered here.

Some more shots, this time the SD DVD was also played on the HDA1:

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/city_2.gif

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/city_3.gif

Full animated shot that the two above were from:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/city_1.gif



This shot sure had a wow factor:

http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/castle_2.gif

Full shot of the above scene:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/TimothyB/HDSD/castle_1.gif



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Here are some pictures of the A1 on my Samsung 32" LCD.

For those who are not sure if this HD DVD player is worth it on 720p displays, feel free to click and get an eyeful. It looks fabulous.

If you think it looks good in the picture, imagine it moving, with great sound.

Shooting at a screen is not really easy! There are moire patterns in some of the shots. This is not from the A1, obviously, but from the camera sensor interacting with the pixel structure of the display.

Also, the contrast and colour does not come out like it should either - but pay attention to the sharpness - at least this is mostly correct in the photos.

I've tried to match the native res of the Sammy, at 1366 x 768 - just click on the thumbnail to view - I'll post more later.

Tomorrow I'll post some shots from the HD2K at 1080p.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1182_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1182_1366.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1103_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1103_1366.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1401_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1401_1366b.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1101_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1101_1366.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1301_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1301_1366b.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1179_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1179_1366b.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1148_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1148_1366.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1305_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1305_1366.jpg) (Linked)

Here are some *more* pictures of the A1 on a Samsung 32" LCD. This is a continuation from the 8 photos I posted first.

For those who are not sure if this HD DVD player is worth it on 720p displays, feel free to click and get an eyeful. It looks fabulous.

If you think it looks good in the picture, imagine it moving, with great sound.

Shooting at a screen is not really easy! There are moire patterns in some of the shots. This is not from the A1, obviously, but from the camera sensor interacting with the pixel structure of the display. The pictures are nowhere near as nice as the real screen.

Also, the contrast and colour does not come out like it should either - but pay attention to the sharpness - at least this is mostly correct in the photos.

I've tried to match the native res of the Sammy, at 1366 x 768 - just click on the thumbnail to view - I'll post more later.

Tomorrow I'll post some shots from the HD2K at 1080p.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1062_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1062_1366.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1425_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1425_1366b.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1211_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1211_1366b.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1432_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1432_1366b.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1369_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1369_1366.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1441_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1441_1366b.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1086_1366b.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1086_1366b.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/thIMG_1310_1366.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_Samsung_LCD/IMG_1310_1366.jpg) (Linked)

Made some animated stills myself.



GREAT COMPARISION -- the best demo, on the web, of the difference with DVD and HD-DVD that I have yet seen.

So tell me, "TimothyB", what program did you use to do that? Please share or PM

thanks,

Is there some sort of magical secret to taking screenshots? I have a 3mp Kodak and when I try and take screenshots, they usually look like ass. :(

My display is a 110" screen, but I'm sure there's a way I could take better shots.

Any advice?

Here's a sample:

http://bigscaryrobotshouse.com/media/ls2.jpg

-PH

http://sales.highendpalace.com/6301.jpg
HD-AX1 - Faroudja DVP-1080


Thats pretty.
Nice camera, nice Faroudja source.

As a result of the upscaler or the actual HD-DVD itself?

Either way, if those aren't doctored, they look fantastic. I didn't see that clean of an image on my setup for Samurai (good chunk of film grain, not resolution of the image). Those shots look like they were done from a film recorded with an HD Camera. Very nice and impressive.

Yeah, maybe its a nice camera and or edited in a program.

OK - I've got some more pic'ies. - There are 8 more at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7552840&&#post7552840

This time at 1080p on a JVC HD2K projector. I've tried to match the pixel size of the screen.

Once again, there are some challenges, mostly due to camera shake. Even with a tripod, I could only use a few, since there are longer exposures, due to the projector not being as bright as the LCD display I snapped before.

These are the ones with the least blurring from the camera shake :)

It looks even better on the real screen! The photos just never do it justice. Try as I might, I just can't get the photos to look as sharp as what's on the screen - I only end up introducing noise and grain.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1456.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1456.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1456.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1514.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1514.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1472.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1472.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1468.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1468.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1491.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1491.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1492.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1492.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1498.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1498.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1495.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1495.jpg) (Linked)

Here's another 8 pics of the A1 at 1080p on a JVC HD2K projector. I've tried to match the pixel size of the screen.

Once again, there are some challenges, mostly due to camera shake. Even with a tripod, I could only use a few, since there are longer exposures, due to the projector not being as bright as the LCD display I snapped before.

These are the ones with the least blurring from the camera shake :)

It looks even better on the real screen! The photos just never do it justice. Try as I might, I just can't get the photos to look as sharp as what's on the screen - I only end up introducing noise and grain.

Still, I hope it gives a good idea of what this baby can do!

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1521.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1521.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1509.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1509.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1513.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1513.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1505.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1505.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1504.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1504.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1488.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1488.jpg) (Linked)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1484.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1484.jpg) (Linked) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/thIMG_1474.jpg (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/rdjam/A1_HD2K/IMG_1474.jpg) (Linked)

GREAT COMPARISION -- the best demo, on the web, of the difference with DVD and HD-DVD that I have yet seen.

So tell me, "TimothyB", what program did you use to do that? Please share or PM

thanks,

Check page two, a few posts under my first A/B post, there I think I shared.

Here's another 8 pics of the A1 at 1080p on a JVC HD2K projector. I've tried to match the pixel size of the screen.

Once again, there are some challenges, mostly due to camera shake. Even with a tripod, I could only use a few, since there are longer exposures, due to the projector not being as bright as the LCD display I snapped before.

These are the ones with the least blurring from the camera shake :)

It looks even better on the real screen! The photos just never do it justice. Try as I might, I just can't get the photos to look as sharp as what's on the screen - I only end up introducing noise and grain.

Still, I hope it gives a good idea of what this baby can do!



Those look great, must be awesome with a screen that size to play movies that look like film quality compared to feeling like you were watching a computer mpeg on DVD.

We still-on-the-fencers wish to have new screenshots of new HD-DVDs releases! :p

Please? :o

heh

http://www.badongo.com/pic/178706

http://www.badongo.com/pic/178708

http://www.badongo.com/pic/178711

http://www.badongo.com/pic/178710

From Demo Disk :)

I need to get you guys some Swordfish screenies from my 2.35:1 CRT setup(NEC 1352), I will work on this asap :)

-Gary

rdjam, is there a significant difference between 720p and 1080i? Your pics are great and I want to hear what you have to say given that you've seen both.

Yes, there is a difference - however...

The picture I am getting with my 1366x768 Samsung is stunning, without question. The Sammy is scaling down the 1080i signal from the A1 to it's native panel res, and it is really fabulous - far superior to Upscaled SD DVD.

The thing is that there is much more to HD DVD than just the resolution - the colours are *massively* improved over the SD DVD standards, the Contrast is just incredible. But most of all - which I didn't even know to expect - is that motion artifacting (the tiling that is so common with Mpeg2) is just not there.

It's a completely different experience - all of these factors result in a far better picture at almost any resolution.

Now - 1080 is, of course, the best. You get every pixel of detail available. 720p is almost 3 times the resolution of SD DVD. But 1080p is double the res of 720p.

My Vantage HD converts the 1080i60 from the A1 back into the full 1080p that came from the disc - so one doesn't lose a single bit of information. It's the ultimate treat.

That said, I'm watching a lot of the movies in my bedroom on the Sammy and getting just as much enjoyment out of them.

TimothyB awesome Serenity Screenies !! Thank you for those, I love that movie !! Got any more ?? Amybe more close-ups of the main characters ??

http://audioworx.virtualave.net/Serenity5.jpg

Thank you for this Thomas, it is my desktop/wallpaper image now !!

-- Cain

hey rdjam, about how far are you sitting away from your sammy? I'm wondering at which distance do you start to lose the "wowness" of HD-DVD. I currently sit around 9-11 feet away when watching movies.

oh, and how is the overscan on your LCD using the toshiba? I'm losing about 3 or 5% myself using component and HDMI dvd player so I use my 360 connected via VGA and get all my pixels :-)

I view it at between 7 and 9 feet - less detail further out, but the picture still pops nicely.

No overscan on the image viw HDMI in my setup. The Sammy is downrezzing.

Time to revive this thread!! I just got my A1 last week and I want to play a little. ;)

U571 as captured from my Sammy HLN 5065. I have both the SD and HD versions for comparison, as captured by my Canon 20D, 50/f1.4, shot RAW, converted to 16 bit Adobe RGB Tiffs, cropped, resized to 1280x720, converted to sRGB, converted to 8 bit, and saved as jpgs. No additional sharping or noise filtering applied.

Sorry, I didn't get the scenes matched up perfectly...

SCENE 1:
SD - I didn't get my boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-001.jpg)
HD - I didn't get my boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-001.jpg)

SCENE 2:
SD - It looks like a gawdam Nazi submarine! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-005.jpg)
HD - It looks like a gawdam Nazi submarine! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-005.jpg)

SCENE 3:
SD - Scuttle the disabled U-boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-007.jpg)
SD - Scuttle the disabled U-boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-007.jpg)

SCENE 4:
SD - Boom! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-008.jpg)
HD - Boom! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-008.jpg)

SCENE 5:
SD - The Nazi Destroyer (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-010.jpg)
HD - The Nazi Destroyer (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-010.jpg)

Time to revive this thread!! I just got my A1 last week and I want to play a little. ;)

U571 as captured from my Sammy HLN 5065. I have both the SD and HD versions for comparison, as captured by my Canon 20D, 50/f1.4, shot RAW, converted to 16 bit Adobe RGB Tiffs, cropped, resized to 1280x720, converted to sRGB, converted to 8 bit, and saved as jpgs. No additional sharping or noise filtering applied.

Sorry, I didn't get the scenes matched up perfectly...

SCENE 1:
SD - I didn't get my boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-001.jpg)
HD - I didn't get my boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-001.jpg)

SCENE 2:
SD - It looks like a gawdam Nazi submarine! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-005.jpg)
HD - It looks like a gawdam Nazi submarine! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-005.jpg)

SCENE 3:
SD - Scuttle the disabled U-boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-007.jpg)
SD - Scuttle the disabled U-boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-007.jpg)

SCENE 4:
SD - Boom! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-008.jpg)
HD - Boom! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-008.jpg)

SCENE 5:
SD - The Nazi Destroyer (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/DVD-010.jpg)
HD - The Nazi Destroyer (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/HD%20DVD-010.jpg)

Did you pause the A-1 while taking the shot? I believe the pause function lowers resolution to 1/2 of the normal 1080i.

My Sammy has a "Still" function that freezes the current image. This is what I used. If my display is correctly de-interlacing and down converting the image (and I am not positive it is), I believe this would display the correct progressive frame.

My Sammy has a "Still" function that freezes the current image. This is what I used. If my display is correctly de-interlacing and down converting the image (and I am not positive it is), I believe this would display the correct progressive frame.

The reason I bring this up is because I tried to do the same thing with Last Samurai before I realized that the HD screenhots were not as sharp as the actual movie. I then took a few high speed shots without pausing during still scenes and the HD images were much crisper.

Well... The tripod and camera are still sitting out there. :)

Reshot some of the same scenes and a couple new ones, live action, shutter priority... See if you can tell the difference.

SCENE 1 - Redo:

HD - I didn't get my boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-001.jpg)

SCENE 2 - Redo:

HD - It's looks like a gawdam Nazi submarine! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-002.jpg)

SCENE 3 - Redo:

HD - Scuttle the disabled u-boat (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-005.jpg)

SCENE 4 - Redo:

HD - Boom! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-006.jpg)

SCENE 5 - Redo:

HD - The Nazi Destroyer (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-007.jpg)

SCENE 8:

HD - Take us down Chief (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-009.jpg)

SCENE 9:
HD - Prepare to surface! (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/U571_HD-011.jpg)

Constantine seems to be a little sharper compared to U571 (not that it looks bad!):

Constantine HD Pic 1 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-001.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 2 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-004.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 3 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-007.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 4 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-008.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 5 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-014.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 6 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-018.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 7 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-021.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 8 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-023.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 9 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-024.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 10 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-028.jpg)

Constantine seems to be a little sharper compared to U571 (not that it looks bad!):

Constantine HD Pic 1 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-001.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 2 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-004.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 3 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-007.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 4 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-008.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 5 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-014.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 6 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-018.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 7 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-021.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 8 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-023.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 9 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-024.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 10 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-028.jpg)

Impressive!

My Sammy has a "Still" function that freezes the current image. This is what I used. If my display is correctly de-interlacing and down converting the image (and I am not positive it is), I believe this would display the correct progressive frame.
Does that set have DNIe on all the time? I'm kinda seeing those weird "pastel" edges on some of those pics I see when I turn it on with my HLP5085W.

Awesome pics though. :D

Thanks Plazman!

Damnation, I do get a type of polarizing artifact in the flesh tones every once in a while.

Ray looks good... (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Lum_Ray-001.jpg)

Ray looks good... (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Lum_Ray-001.jpg)

So is the HD Review of Ray.

http://www.dvdreview.com/reviews/pages/2394.shtml

Any screen shots of Aeon Flux? I heard it has the best PQ out there!

Constantine seems to be a little sharper compared to U571 (not that it looks bad!):

Constantine HD Pic 1 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-001.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 2 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-004.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 3 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-007.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 4 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-008.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 5 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-014.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 6 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-018.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 7 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-021.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 8 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-023.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 9 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-024.jpg)

Constantine HD Pic 10 (http://www.emptysocket.com/images/Constantine_HD-028.jpg)
I think shot 8 is the best and shows what HD can do the most. The tiles are so clear and defined in shot 8 its amazing. That would be a mess in SD.

Time to revive this thread!! I just got my A1 last week and I want to play a little. ;)



You sure have a lot of overscan in the SD pics.

Batman Begins. Not sure the best way to take the picture so I just stood in front of the screen and turned flash off.

http://www.jayandkarla.com/imageurl/IMG_1040.jpg

Here's some pictures I took with my Canon 20D of The Corpse Bride. Display is a 52" 720p Toshiba DLP:
http://www.pbase.com/dscott/image/68708979.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/dscott/image/68709020.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/dscott/image/68709029.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/dscott/image/68709030.jpg

Were these shots already posted?

http://sales.highendpalace.com/6301.jpg
http://sales.highendpalace.com/6302.jpg


HD-AX1 - Faroudja DVP-1080

from highendpalace's site.

Is there anyway to get this kind of PQ with my A1 (coming tomorrow) and Mits 57732 1080P DLP? I would have to go broke and get an expensive reference upscaler like the FAROUDJA DVP-1080 HD ????

Is there something in the blue collar price instead of the $5000 upscaler above?

Thoses pics are awesome.

this thread is great, never knew it was here. Corpse Bride is orgasmic.

all these HD vs SD sample shots are amazing, keep them coming...PLEASE!

You sure have a lot of overscan in the SD pics.
I'm fairly certain the SD version of U571 was cropped tighter than the HD version, for whatever reason.

Here are my shots. Crappy indeed, but I still want to throw my hat in. They are resized to 800 by 600 and taken with a 6 megapixel camera.

The mummy returns HD-DVD screenshot - avg bit-rate 24 mbps vc-1 codec:


http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2228/untitled2ud3.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2ud3.jpg)