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4 Roger Waters
Thu, Oct 5, 2006 07:30 PM
Hollywood Bowl
Hollywood, CA

Total Charge: US $231.15

2nd half of show is Dark side of the moon in its entirety.
Should be a great show!


buzz

If only he was coming to Florida... :(

Does anybody have a tour list handy?

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4 Roger Waters
Thu, Oct 5, 2006 07:30 PM
Hollywood Bowl
Hollywood, CA

Total Charge: US $231.15
:eek:

I cant even get 2 tix for that price for the show near Chicago! Whats up with that!

I tried to see if more expensive seats were available, but the search kept going to zero.
I was ordering it through the AMEX pre-order system.

I dont mind, the Hollywood Bowl has fantastic acoustics ( well its outside too), and its a classical venue, so you can cart in bottles of wine and a cooler :D

Does anybody have a tour list handy?

Go to Ticketron grasshopper!

They're not selling tickets right now because the system is down for maintenance, otherwise tickets would be mine!! Assuming I can still get some reasonably priced ones.

The best concert I ever attended was Roger Waters on his "Radio KAOS" tour. I caught the show in Denver. It was a significant emotional event.

Got my tickets, Thanks JohnR for letting me know about this, be seeing you at the Bowl!

Section N2, just above the middle boxes, seats 107-110 Joe.
We are kicking around getting a stretch limo from SFV, since parking down there is a nightmare...

I remember when we went to see Rush, we were within 3 miles of the Bowl, stuck in traffic for 45 minutes. We heard the band start while we were looking for an available 50 dollar parking spot.

Its a great place once you get there ...

Cool, I'm in N3, Row 11, seats 21-23. Luckily I live pretty close to the Bowl and right next to a subway station. Once I took the subway to Hollywood/Highland and walked the rest of the way. Another time I took the bus from Griffith Park, both were pretty decent and cheap ways of getting there. Once the box office opens I'll go over there and pick up tickets for John Williams and a couple other shows. I love getting the $7 tickets for regular bowl events because even the nosebleed seats are great!

Ah, to see Roger Waters at the Hollywood Bowl...


Reality Check!

Being a parent means sacrifice...and that means no $200 tix for me anymore.

no $200 tix for me anymore.

The tickets were only $46, not terrible. It's the outrageous fees that really kick the price up in to the stratosphere.

The best concert I ever attended was Roger Waters on his "Radio KAOS" tour. I caught the show in Denver. It was a significant emotional event.

I also saw the Radio KAOS tour in San Diego. What a great concert!

Ah, to see Roger Waters at the Hollywood Bowl...


Reality Check!

Being a parent means sacrifice...and that means no $200 tix for me anymore.


Screw that, buy yourself a 46 dollar ticket, hitch there with a forum member or something, and SEE THE SHOW!


I missed the "In The Flesh" concert because of family, and regretted it ever since ...

Does anybody have a tour list handy?

From: http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=205843

As many fans had suspected, Pink Floyd's Roger Waters will tour North America in the fall to perform Dark Side Of The Moon in its entirety. The North American tour, Waters' first since 2002, will begin September 6 in Holmdel, NJ and hit arenas and outdoor amphitheaters. His backing band will include Andy Fairweather Low and Snowy White on guitar, Jon Carin on keyboards, drummer Graham Broad and Waters' son Harry on Hammond organ. Waters will be doing a European tour in June and July before making his return to the States.

Here are his tour dates, according to Pollstar.com:

9/06 - Holmdel, NJ
9/08 - Mansfield, MA
9/12 - New York, NY
9/13 - New York, NY
9/15 - Wantagh, NY
9/16 - Camden, NJ
9/18 - Auburn Hills, MI
9/20 - Toronto
9/21 - Montreal
9/23 - Bristow, VA
9/24 - Burgettstown, PA
9/27 - Cleveland, OH
9/29 - Tinley Park, IL
9/30 - Noblesville, IN
10/03 - Phoenix, AZ
10/05 - Los Angeles, CA
10/08 - Las Vegas, NV
10/10 - Mountain View, CA
10/12 - Seattle, WA

If it was all the original members I might not mind driving, but the first half of the show with Roger's solo work would bore me to death. I saw him on the "Live in the Flesh" tour and loved the old Pink Floyd songs of course but his solo stuff was just not up to par. Barely remember the Division Bell tour I think my dad took me to that when I was 13 or 14.

He saved the best for last Hayrab, you need to give these 3 records more of a chance:

Radio KAOS
Pros and Cons Of Hitchiking
Amused To Death

All 3 are on par with Floyd records, I consider them better in many ways: definitely fresher! Remember he wrote almost all of Floyd's lyrics, its not like he can "turn off" that kind of creativity.

Roger in Seattle! Woo HOO!!!! Guess I won't need to hitch all the way to the Hollywood Bowl now!

Maybe for mom. Interesting show.

He saved the best for last Hayrab, you need to give these 3 records more of a chance:

Radio KAOS
Pros and Cons Of Hitchiking
Amused To Death

Don't forget "The Final Cut", what does it say on the back of that album? Something like "Written by Roger Waters, Performed by Pink Floyd".

Please more info!

Don't forget "The Final Cut", what does it say on the back of that album? Something like "Written by Roger Waters, Performed by Pink Floyd".
I think the tagline was more like "A Requiem for the Post-War Dream, by Roger Waters." "In Memory of Eric Fletcher Waters." Roger was the creative genius behind the lyrics that made Floyd FLOYD. I give David G. most of the credit for the signature Floyd sound.

I think the tagline was more like "A Requiem for the Post-War Dream, by Roger Waters."

Well I pulled out my CD, and you are right but immediately below that it says:

"performed by pink floyd
david gilmour nick mason
roger waters"

I've read where Gilmour disowned The Final Cut as not being a Pink Floyd album, but I can't seem to find that quote. I do know that Waters wrote all the music and lyrics for the album. I'm not trying to trash the rest of the band or anything, I just think that The Final Cut is more of a Roger Waters solo effort than it is a Pink Floyd album, and I also happen to think it's great!

He never disowned it, but it was put together as Floyd was dissintegrating, largely as a response to the Falkland Islands conflict.

I remember Rolling Stones magazine gave "The Final Cut" a glowing 5 star review, but it didnt sell too well, it was too dreary, even by Floyd standards..

Its an awesome album though, I still listen to it a couple times a year...

I remember a Gilmour interview where he said Floyd was a balance of Water's "down" lyrics with "up, energenic" music. He didnt think Final Cut made the grade musically. I also seem to recall that the songs on Final Cut were part of The Wall but were trimmed off. Nevertheless, its my 2nd or 3rd favorite Floyd album

It's great, if only for Not Now John.

Saw this last night at the Camden, NJ show. Performance was outstanding. It reminded me a lot of his "In the Flesh" DVD except that he does DSM in its entirety after the break. Many of the same musicians/singers. But in the end, I feel the DVD experience is better than the live concert in almost every way.

Ed

How large was the Camden venue? Was it building designed for acoustics?

I find that critical for live concerts, if the building is a concert hall, and you have good seats, then the dynamics of a live show can often exceed many recorded DVDs combined with sub/$10k Home theater sound systems..

I remember watching a Jewel concert on DVD, and then going to a concert hall the next day to see her live. At the concert hall, we got all these luscious undertones to her voice and acoustic guitar, that the DVD simply did not capture...

Great comment, John. I think too many forget the importance of acoustics in these days of multipurpose event centers.

How large was the Camden venue? Was it building designed for acoustics?It's an amphitheater that holds 7,000. It's largely enclosed but the back is open to the outside and there is lawn seating out there for many more thousands. I was inside but near the back center. I bought tickets within minutes of them going on sale but none were available in a more expensive front center section (nevertheless my tickets were $106 with fees). How could that be? Looks fishy to me.
I find that critical for live concerts, if the building is a concert hall, and you have good seats, then the dynamics of a live show can often exceed many recorded DVDs combined with sub/$10k Home theater sound systems...The live audio might be better than the DVD for most concerts since the average AQ for DVDs is so low - but here we're comparing to "Live - In the Flesh" which is very very good. But the main problem with such a large concert is that the processing that is done for the PA system commits the same sins as for recordings - i.e. the dynamics were compressed with an overall high average sound level - not to mention lots of distortion (but to be fair, I don't know whether it was the sound system or my ears that were distorting ;) ).

Ed

check out drudgereport right now for what Roger Waters has put on his floating pigs in the new tour

I bought tickets for my wife for mothers day and we are going on 9-30, should be cool.

It's an amphitheater that holds 7,000. It's largely enclosed but the back is open to the outside and there is lawn seating out there for many more thousands. I was inside but near the back center. I bought tickets within minutes of them going on sale but none were available in a more expensive front center section (nevertheless my tickets were $106 with fees). How could that be? Looks fishy to me. Ed

Yea DONT THAT SUCK?

Here is what I think is happening: All those prime seats are either:

a. "reserved" for large corporate or special marketing partners. Many of them
are subsequently released once the partner decides how many seats it actually
wants. For example, MTV may have a block, Google may have a block, etc.

b. Or auctioned off as prime seats.

Regardless, its a major ripoff for the individual ticket buyer. And Ticketron has a wierd monopoly on ticket sales that hurts us buyers. Look at their outrageous service fees.

I would actually support a "ticket buyer strike" against this behemoth...

As I mentioned in this thread in April, the Roger Waters concert I saw for his "Radio KAOS" tour was the best concert experience I've ever had. I saw today's news reports about some of the decorations at his current concerts, and was disappointed that they were so specifically political. Oh, well. Hopefully, those things won't take too much away from concert-goers' enjoyment of the show.

15 days until I see him here in Phoenix. :)

I saw Roger last week at MSG in NY and also at Jones Beach. MSG is an indoor arena and Jones Beach is an outdoor arena. even though I enjoyed both shows(the music is timeless) I was slightly disappointed. If you compare it to his last (Live in the Flesh) tour or even to the Floyd tour 10 years ago(pulse dvd) this was a distant 3rd. It was clear that Roger was more interested in getting his point of view out rather than let the music get his view out. We all know where Roger stands politically and fortunately for us he expresses it so well in his music. I don't agree with Roger on about 99.9% of his views but I don't have an issue with him expressing his since its his show and his music.

But I do expect to be entertained when I pay big bucks to see a show. On the big screens, instead of closeups of Snowy White or Andy Fairweather Low or sometimes even the backup singers he had propaganda pictures. I don't want to give out spoilers so I will let it go at that. Andy Fairweather Low spent both shows hiding in the back. What was that all about. Remember on the In the Flesh DVD the solo he played on Money? Gone, given to another guitarist. Snowy White looked like he was sleeping throughout the performance. No real solo there either.

At MSG show, for the DSOTM set Roger introduces a "dear old friend" and out comes Nick Mason. He played the full set and the encore along with the other drummer. That was very nice.

John Caron(sp) the keyboard player just about butchered Us and Them. His voice was just awful. Roger was very enthusiastic and played to both sides of the stage. He was booed at both concerts for that awful song Leaving Beirut.

Nothing like playing NYC on Sept 12 and asking why we are at war. If the music didn't hold up after all these years I would give both shows a D. The music does hold up and as I said, Roger really gave it his all so I give the shows a B-. This might be your last chance to really see him as he is 62 or 63 and in 5 more years I just don't think it will be worth it. I'd still go!!!

Saw this show on 9/8 at the Tweeter Center in Mansfield, MA and it was one of the best shows that I've ever seen! There were no lowlights, but Perfect Sense, Great Gig in The Sky, Fletcher Memorial, and Vera/Bring The Boys Back Home really stood out.

BTW, for those complaining about politics at the shows. Have you not been paying attention all these years?

BTW, for those complaining about politics at the shows. Have you not been paying attention all these years?

Why yes I have been paying attention which is why I noticed the show went downhill from the last tour when he focused on the music. Compare the two tours and notice the difference. To ignore Andy and Snowy is just a real letdown.

If your a fan, go see the show since this is probably the last tour of his worth seeing.

P.S. Don't waste your time on the Rolling Stones tour. IMHO

Why would you consider "Leaving Beirut" awful? It takes the listener on a Floydian musical journey, as it tells a story about an English Hitchiker spending 24 hours with a gentle lebanese couple, has simply incredible female background vocals, nice instrumentation..

its 12 minutes of signature Waters... whats not to like? By the way, Waters normally does a full album for every English war, so he slacking by only issuing an EP!

I think the tagline was more like "A Requiem for the Post-War Dream, by Roger Waters." "In Memory of Eric Fletcher Waters." Roger was the creative genius behind the lyrics that made Floyd FLOYD. I give David G. most of the credit for the signature Floyd sound.


Don't forget Barrett's influence of madness and er uhm mind expanding additives :p (I did like Barrett nonetheless, although his influence was limited in the formative years, who knows what went on with all of them)


Sheesh, well I guess I found out too late :(. Kinda funny too, I was just thinking the other day wouldn't it be cool to see Waters?

Saw Jones Beach Show. Absolutely loved it. Great setting, excellent special effects accentuated by the rainy weather. Might have been the best show I've seen (although I have seen 100's of shows so that is a mercurial designation). Comparing the second set of Gilmours tour to this, I'd say musically Gilmour was a tad better but for showmanship, Waters took the crown.
As for the politics, I second the emotion of drkfluff, they've been singing about this stuff for 35 years, have you failed to hear it (same with the noodle heads that bood CSNY on thier tour)? Only smattering of boo's for leaving Beriut, I think people who disagreed just took a bathroom break as they knew what was coming (4th show in the area).
Long and short, don't miss it!

Having seen RW in the past, and having read about the current shows, I lamented the explicit nature of the political elements of this new tour. Obviously, the music of Floyd and of Waters has been rich with various messages all along, but there are differences between letting the music speak for itself, and putting up signs specific to current political issues and persons. The latter might tend to lessen the enjoyability of a concert for some, and that's unfortunate.

Little over 3 weeks until I see Roger Waters in Seattle (row 8, main floor), and although I will pay little attention to the political aspects of the concert, I could do without it when I pay this much for a concert. I listen to newsradio every day and would like to take a break from politics, if only for one night.

When I saw RW on his last tour the last song was very political. I can't remember the name of it though.
I don't remember much blatantly political stuff during the Pro's and Con's show...I think however this time in history calls for people to speak out for or against what they believe (at the risk of being called a traitor by the right wingers). Right now the discussion on torture is a very important subject which needs people to wake up and take a stand for what they believe. I EXPECT RW to say (sing) what he thinks because of what is going on in the world. If he didn't I would wonder what was wrong with him knowing what many of his political views are. Eric

PS I am not going to express my political views because this is the wrong thread/forum.

ps2 Any chance of a second leg that stretches to Florida?

I was at the Hyde Park London show with Nick Mason as guest earlier in the Summer.

It was great.

(I also liked the David Gilmour show, with Richard Wright and Dick Perry and Crosby and Nash, that I attended in NYC earlier this year.)

One thing that tweaked me about this RW tour was the DG wannabe guitarist (not Snowy White but the other dude). He fought with his hair in his face for the whole show. I do my kids hair (3 girls) each day and I know that it would have only taken him 4 minutes to tie that hair up so that he could think a bit about his guitar work. He also pretended to have a hard time standing up and not just during Comfortably Numb. I got the impression he was there to try to play down the importance of DG's parts of the music.

For reference,.. I went to Pro's and Con's tour followed by several DG PF tours (MLoR, Division Bell, Pulse ect.) followed by RW's In the Flesh, DG's On an Island, and finally this RW show with NM in London. So,.. I'm a hardcore fan and I'm not trying to be-little the current RW tour. I'll gladly go to an outing of any of the PF legends.

I was clearly surprized by how much Nick Mason brought to the show. I guess I had never seen NM with RW togeather live and likely never will again.

Anyway,.. Get tix if you can and enjoy.

-Brian

Having seen RW in the past, and having read about the current shows, I lamented the explicit nature of the political elements of this new tour. Obviously, the music of Floyd and of Waters has been rich with various messages all along, but there are differences between letting the music speak for itself, and putting up signs specific to current political issues and persons. The latter might tend to lessen the enjoyability of a concert for some, and that's unfortunate.

But it heightens the enjoyability for people who share his world view, which is fortunate (for us). Seperating Waters from peace, is like seperating Lennon from peace .... aint gonna happen...

Sorry JohnR, I just don't think musically "Leaving Beirut" is any good. The politics never bother me as long as the music is good. Just my opinion. Twas a great time for a bathroom break. And as for him slacking with only 1 song, I do believe he has an album almost ready but it will wait till after the tour.

I would love to know why Andy Fairweather Low was hiding in the back. What a waste.

Hopefully there will be plenty more wars so Roger can keep writing songs.

Seperating Waters from peace, is like seperating Lennon from peace
If you substitute "peace" for "appeasement" then I would agree. Peace follows victory, laying down arms and letting terrorists kill us without a fight is not peace.

I expected that Waters would do something like this, he's very predictable in that way. I wonder if he'll do any concerts in Iran. I'm sure they would be very interested in his message of "peace".

If you substitute "peace" for "appeasement" then I would agree. Peace follows victory, laying down arms and letting terrorists kill us without a fight is not peace.

I expected that Waters would do something like this, he's very predictable in that way. I wonder if he'll do any concerts in Iran. I'm sure they would be very interested in his message of "peace".

So how did you like the RW concert. That is what this thread's about isn't it?

It's no secret that Waters has always been a bit of a cranky socialist. So be it. The problem I have with him nowadays is that he doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word subtle. In the past, he would get his point across with a clever phrase or image and his lyrics could be appreciated on many levels. But starting with The Wall and continuing on The Final Cut, he started pounding his views through our skulls in an incessant manner. His solo work seems to have been taken over by his social-political philosophy. That can be good or bad, depending on your point of view. To me, it's a negative because Waters has replaced sarcasm and satire with bitterness.

You have to know going in to his show that his music is political. Thats fine, I accept that. My comments here have focused on the actual show. I just don't think the show is as good as the hype. Snowy just stands there. Andy hides in the back. John Carin has lost his voice. There is no real light show and only a few explosions. For people that have seen the show, do you agree with my assessment? For those of you going, see if you notice what I have said.

You have to know going in to his show that his music is political. Thats fine, I accept that. My comments here have focused on the actual show. I just don't think the show is as good as the hype. Snowy just stands there. Andy hides in the back. John Carin has lost his voice. There is no real light show and only a few explosions. For people that have seen the show, do you agree with my assessment? For those of you going, see if you notice what I have said.I've never seen RW live, but the In The Flesh DVD has played more in my theater then any DVD I own.

Snowy White is a statue in that DVD
Andy is not an entertainer, he's a musician and of the "standing up" players retreats back more then any of the others.
There was hardly any light show, unless you consider the pictures displayed behind the band.
I recall one explosion

That doesn't seem much different then what I'm hearing about the current show.

I have no problems with any of that, I bought it and enjoy it for the music. My days of being mesmerized by loud and bright shiny objects is way behind me :D

edit to add - I prefer my concerts to not be political, even if the politics are consistent with mine. Unfortunately some who disagree with the politics may be distracted, and their reactions may in turn detract from the show.

[QUOTE=David James]I've never seen RW live, but the In The Flesh DVD has played more in my theater then any DVD I own.

Snowy White is a statue in that DVD
Andy is not an entertainer, he's a musician and of the "standing up" players retreats back more then any of the others.
There was hardly any light show, unless you consider the pictures displayed behind the band.
I recall one explosion

That doesn't seem much different then what I'm hearing about the current show.

QUOTE]

Andy not an entertainer? He certainly entertained me when he toured with Clapton. And I was entertained by him on the last tour during his solos but they are gone on this tour. On the In the Flesh DVD Snowy's dueling guitar exchanges with Doyle especially during Comfortably Numb were OUTSTANDING. All that is gone this tour.

I have heard that there will be a DVD shot of this tour towards the end. If so, I will get it but I have no doubt In the Flesh will remain in my DVD player 99.9% of the time while Pulse plays in there the other .1%

All in all it's not a bad show(the music, the music,the music) but it ranks third behind the In the Flesh tour and the Floyd tour (Pulse) in the mid 90's. IMHO- YMMV

I wonder if he'll do any concerts in Iran. .


Yea, that would be so awesome, right there in the cradle of civilization, surrounded by beautiful Persian architecture (and women!).

. I have with him nowadays is that he doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word subtle. ...

This was intentional, many Water's fans are delighted that he did; it started with him tearing down The Wall.

"The Final Cut" was really the first revealed Waters album.

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Andy not an entertainer? He certainly entertained me when he toured with Clapton. And I was entertained by him on the last tour during his solos but they are gone on this tour. I think you know what I mean. He's not Hendrix or Page. Perhaps I should have said "showman" or flashy and not entertainer, fair enough On the In the Flesh DVD Snowy's dueling guitar exchanges with Doyle especially during Comfortably Numb were OUTSTANDING. All that is gone this tour.I agree he sounded great, but that wasn't the complaint, you said snowy "just stands there" and I said, yeah, he did that on In The Flesh as well

But you know what. After viewing a concert DVD a couple times, what I often to is push the display to my 5" TV (avoid burning the bulb in my projector) I have connected and sit or lay down, close my eyes and enjoy the music. Andy could be doing back flips and chicken dancing with Snowy for all I care :D

It's no secret that Waters has always been a bit of a cranky socialist. So be it. The problem I have with him nowadays is that he doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word subtle. In the past, he would get his point across with a clever phrase or image and his lyrics could be appreciated on many levels. But starting with The Wall and continuing on The Final Cut, he started pounding his views through our skulls in an incessant manner. His solo work seems to have been taken over by his social-political philosophy. That can be good or bad, depending on your point of view. To me, it's a negative because Waters has replaced sarcasm and satire with bitterness.So you know what you're gonna get going in. Not that I don't totally agree - I think that's why I lost interest myself to a great extent in PF since The Wall was released, although I will be the first to admit that the "Water-less" PF releases are lacking greatly without him.

If you want to see a Floyd concert, go see Floyd. I have - with and without RW - and I just can't imagine enjoying a RW concert as much as I enjoyed PF without him. Although, I admit, I never actually have seen RW live myself. But then, that's just my tastes, and my opinion of getting my money's worth.

By the way - what RW concert was that where Cindy Lauper sang? I saw a video of this for the first time on The Tube last week, and I thought it was Godawful. Seeing that made me wonder why anyone would pay to see it, no matter how much of a Waters idolizer they are.

By the way - what RW concert was that where Cindy Lauper sang? I saw a video of this for the first time on The Tube last week, and I thought it was Godawful. Seeing that made me wonder why anyone would pay to see it, no matter how much of a Waters idolizer they are.

That was "The Wall Live in Berlin." It took place at Pottsdammer Plats (sp?) in 1990, and was a significant event. Lauper may have been out-of-place, but overall the concert was amazing (based only on having seen it via DVD).

Quote "I just can't imagine enjoying a RW concert as much as I enjoyed PF without him."

I've seen PF without RW and I've seen RW and I say they are pretty different. RW is the only one who will play anything from Animals which is a recording that I love. RW also seems to stay closer to the message of PF's later recordings. He connects in a different way to the crowd.

I think you should try it. Get a tic to his current tour,.. you may be pleasently surprized.

-Brian

Agreed, Brian, Waters concerts are a group-mind-meld experience...
I feel strongly that they are superior to anything from "Floyd II" or Gilmour.

I also think Water's solo albums are comparable to Classic Floyd albums, his writing got even better if anything:

"In truck stops and hamburger joints
In Cadillac limousines
In the company of has-beens
In bent-backs in sleeping forms
On pavement steps
In libraries and railway stations
In books and banks
In the pages of history
In suicidal cavalry attacks
I recognise...
myself in every stranger's eyes

And in wheelchairs by monuments
Under tube trains in commuter accidents
In council care and county courts
At Easter fairs in sea-side resorts
In drawing rooms and city morgues
In award winning photographs
of life rafts in the China seas
In transit camps, under arc lamps
On loading ramps
In faces blurred by rubber stamps
I recognise...
myself in every stranger's eyes

And now from where I stand
upon this hill I plundered from the pool
I look around, I search the skies
I shade my eyes, so nearly blind
and I see signs of half remembered days
I hear bells that chime in strange familiar ways
I recognise...
the hope you kindle in your eyes"

- Every Strangers Eyes, Roger Waters

I remember a Gilmour interview where he said Floyd was a balance of Water's "down" lyrics with "up, energenic" music. He didnt think Final Cut made the grade musically. I also seem to recall that the songs on Final Cut were part of The Wall but were trimmed off. Nevertheless, its my 2nd or 3rd favorite Floyd album

The Final Cut was entirely composed by Waters which created friction between Waters and Gilmour. I understand Gilmour's POV, but have to agree that The Final Cut was one of PF's best works.

It took the widely disperate PF sound, codified and refined it. To that end, it really worked being a very satisfying and complete final offering/statement/ whatever.

To me,

Roger is a legend. And so is David Gilmour and for that matter pretty much the whole band.

DG may not be everybody's favorite musician but the music and his contributions to it are a big part of what made the latter PF recording true endure-ing works of art.

-Brian

The last time I saw RW live was back in '77 in Oakland/Alameda...."Animals" was a lot of fun live! Lots of Raving and Drooling going on for sure!! As much as I love PF, I am on the DG side of the fence. Both, to me are legends, RW is just a little too dark and depressing for me for the long term. I have a bunch of his albums and even a couple of DVDs but I would rather see DG or PF. I have been lucky enough to see PF 7 times, by far the best shows I have ever seen. I even still have the ticket stubbs, and will gladly see DG and the boys any chance I get...but Roger is a different story. For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!! :D

The Final Cut was entirely composed by Waters which created friction between Waters and Gilmour. I understand Gilmour's POV, but have to agree that The Final Cut was one of PF's best works.

It took the widely disperate PF sound, codified and refined it. To that end, it really worked being a very satisfying and complete final offering/statement/ whatever.

The Final Cut is almost unknown outside of hard core PF fans, so history seems to be siding against it. But I agree, its one of my favorites.

This was the album that Roger decided to start "playing different tunes", and I often compare this album to Lennon's 1970 solo masterpiece,"Plastic Ono Band" which was essentially Lennon with the wall torn down, revealing every nuance of his precious voice, and deep wonderful emotions.

The last time I saw RW live was back in '77 in Oakland/Alameda...."Animals" was a lot of fun live! Lots of Raving and Drooling going on for sure!! As much as I love PF, I am on the DG side of the fence. Both, to me are legends, RW is just a little too dark and depressing for me for the long term. I have a bunch of his albums and even a couple of DVDs but I would rather see DG or PF. I have been lucky enough to see PF 7 times, by far the best shows I have ever seen. I even still have the ticket stubbs, and will gladly see DG and the boys any chance I get...but Roger is a different story. For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!! :DThe only time I saw PF with Waters was on the "Animals" tour (at Soldier Field).

Easily the best concert I've ever seen.

I saw "Pink Floyd" during the Delicate Sound of Thunder tour and now I'll be seeing Roger Waters...the circle is now complete. :D

I recently witnessed RW's Dark Side of the Moon show in Michigan. Let me say that I've been a Floyd fan since my first paycheck was spent on a double-cassette of The Wall. Since that first purchase I have devotely followed the band, but not so much Mr. Waters.

I have had the pleasure of a couple live Gilmour Floyd shows and was simply blown away. Their stage, lighting, and sound seemlessly combine and embrace you. The show is like nothing you have ever experienced and sets the standard for all others to approach (but never quite meet).

RW's show was at that same level. The first hour was dedicated to Floyd songs from incarnation through KAOS (yes, KAOS was RW only). And, this included a couple little ditties from Final Cut.

Then a brief 15 minute break.

Then, as far as I'm concerned, history. RW played, without pause, the entire Dark Side album to perfection. PERFECTION. Great Gig was a trip, leaving me breathless, and stole the show.

Then, the obligatory pause before the encore.

A couple of songs including Comfortably Numb. Voila, history. Perfection. Best money I have ever spent on a concert.

Thanks for the review, ConversionDave. My wife is still giving me dirty looks for the price I paid for those main floor seats! :D

I saw "Pink Floyd" during the Delicate Sound of Thunder tour and now I'll be seeing Roger Waters...the circle is now complete. :DThat was the only other time I saw Floyd. Unfortunately, it was totally ruined by terrible acoustics in the venue (Rosemont Horizon - now the Allstate Arena), and playing WAY too loud for the conditions on top of that. Just one, huge garbled, muffled, deafening ball of noise so bad that you couldn't even make out the beat to the songs, and in some cases, could barely even tell which songs were being played.

In contrast to the "Animals" tour concert, it may very well have been the WORST concert experience I ever had.

Gotta hate when you get the acoutical problems+too loud combo.

-Brian

We just got home from the show, and what a show it was. I was not overly excited about going but it was much better than I had anticipated. He had the floating pig that had IMPEACH BUSH and all sorts of things written on it and they let it fly off ( show was outdoors)

He ended up doing most of The Wall as well as all of Dark Side, a new song of his and some other assorted songs. Total show time was right at 3 hours and I was ready for more. It was by far the best sounding outside show I have ever attended. It sounded like it was being played in surround sound. I am not sure how that was accomplished, but it was. I hope this tour was recorded as I would enjoy it on dvd. We have his other concert on dvd and it was good too.

I got to talking to the gentleman sitting next to me and he said that he has recently heard an interview with Peter Gabriel and he mentioned a Genesis reunion,there have been rumors of this for years but for one of the band members to say it might actually mean something?

Chadci, Pink Floyd has had surround sound at their shows since probably 1969 :)

This tour supposedly is in Quadrophonic

The Camden, NJ was more than Quad. In the rear there was at least L, R and C.

Chadci - didn't you see speakers behind you?

Ed

ekb, the venue the concert is at is 2 parts, there is the covered seating and your right, there were speakers in the front and back but past the ceiling is lawn seating, thats where we were. Behind us there is nothing more than a wooden privacy fence. I lost my glasses last weekend so I could not see which direction the speakers in the back were facing, I had just assumed they were to provide us with sound.

It was the most unique sounding ( channel wise) concert I have ever attended. It was probably also the most clear and precise, even being out in the lawn with 20,000 other people. I was able to understand every word wether spoken, sung or just during introductions.

Chadci - where was this?

Ed

Verizon Wireless Music Center in Noblesville ( near Indianapolis) Indiana. It used to be called Deer Creek.

http://www.livenation.com/venue/getVenue/venueId/338/

For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!! :D


But the real question is: did you fall on his neck with a screammm?

10 days to go...can't wait!

Im going on Thursday, Hollywood Bowl. ....

Nick Mason said they may do the DVD there!

Johnr, I was wondering if maybe they were doing takes for a dvd when we saw them, the photography was not standard video work that you would see on a big screen at a concert, it was more like you might expect to see on a dvd I even mentioned that to my wife. Maybe its going to be a little here and alittle there and a little more somewhere else like one of the 2 Peter Gabriel dvds I have ( there other one is all in the same place... I think)

As a huge Concert DVD fan, all I can say is, God I hope not. :)

A concert DVD should be the band playing one town, and how that town reacts. Now from a practical point of view, I understand that it can help to tape 2 nites, so that they can substitute a glitch from one nite, with good tape from the other nite, but anything beyond that and it becomes a concert simulation.

So then, they should do it on the last night of the current tour...here in Seattle! :)

It is tonight, for me, here in Phoenix, and I am really excited. :)

I'm going Sunday at the Hollywood Bowl. Can't wait....I've heard DSOTM will be played in it's entirety.

I will probably have a hard time getting tickets for this at any reasonable price.....but I am going to catch The Who soon.....and no....I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)

Great show last night. I have no complaints about the performance, as it was top notch. The band sounded great, I was prepared for the political stuff, so I didn't let it bother me, even enjoyed the Pig. :)

The venue, on the other hand......... what a hideous place. I have seen my last concert at the Cricket Pavillion.

I honestly think Roger is trying to re-unite Pink floyd ...
Look at what he wrote on a recent press release in Isreal:




"A few weeks ago I watched again Martin Scorsese's film which
documented the last concert by The Band and I was inspired to
write a few words i see fitting:



The Last Waltz
I just want that thing
When voices join in harmony
And in that fleeting moment,
Meaning coalesces on the ear,
All dark, dissolving, clouds the alleyways no more
And fresh bread scent of home pervades the air

No sandal soles
In dust of broken homes
Nor callused toes peep bloody from the garment hem,
And all the big parades
And shock and awe
And swagger on the carrier decks and medals
Jangle helpless in the face of what is fair

I just want that thing
When friends draw in, some living some begone,
Some brittle, none forgotten
All beloved everyone.

Then dash the glass into the fire
Then well up unashamed my heart
Beyond the reach of fear
Of faith, blind, bigoted and drear

And then across the great divide
Rise men and women unafraid
To dash in loss their bracelets at the wall,
And hearing them
Hope holds me in its thrall.

I just want that thing
When empathy prevails
When man evolves beyond the crass
And reason comes of age
When dogma, cant, and witchcraft
All are banished to the past
When voices join in harmony at last.

It all comes down to David, and I don't see that happening...

I saw it Thursday nite at the Hollywood Bowl. Intense experience... really a concert cant get much better than this. Roger was in top form, as were his players... that new guitarist he found is freakin amazing.

PP Arnold's voice cut through on "Perfect Sense" like she was standing right in front of you; , and whatever girl who did the female solo on "The Great Gig in The Sky" deserves a medal.

And he did 2 or 3 precious tracks from The Final Cut, where his voice just cuts you, including "Flether Memorial Home".

He has more Saxaphone integrated into this show... the Saxist was going off even during the "Wish you Were here" tracks. Roger grouped all the WYWH tracks together and played the cover song, Shine On, and Have A Cigar, right in a row.

He did "Interstellar Overdrive", which was space cadet part of the show, very well done.

The presentation of DSOTM was amazing, near the end, this Pyramid appeared abve the stage, and my buddy Sean said "I dont know what church this is, but I'm a believer!"

Bring your binoculars ... Roger intentionally darkens most of the band, the experience is the ambience, the sound, the movie and a couple players which are lighted ... the effect is amazing.

I am going again Sunday nite.

Man, I am SO chomping at the bit!
5 days to go!

There are basically 3 PF camps. RW, DG, and PF. I tend to put myself in the PF camp.
I saw the Radio KAOS tour in the front row at the Cumberland County Civic Center and it was only half full. It was a truly amazing experience. On of my favorite shows of all time.

I like RW solo and I like Waterless PF. To me, since The Final Cut, we have gotten 5 Floyd albums. In fact I consider all 5 seamless. Rip all five into a directory and play them in random order with ones favorite software, I use Itunes even though I don't own a Ipod. What you will hear is PF.

I didn't go to the RW show this time around because I looked at the setlist and didn't see anything new. For me, live Waterless PF offers more because the musicians are more of the original PF. Lets face it the bass player is one of the easiest members to replace with the exception of JPJ and J. Entwhistle. Rogers band can nail DG's lick note for note, its not the same soul. But the ultimate was the Live 8. So fans that want to debate the PF issue, watch that performance. Debate over.

I wish PF would bury the hatchet, and tour one more time. Till that time, I will enjoy both and recognize the two camps have more in common than they don't.

Animals is one of my all time favs, but its not just the lyrics, DG guitar really makes the album. Listen to Is There Anybody Out There, you really get an idea how great they where together. Now PF spend the bucks like LZ did and restore the video that goes with that live album and make us all PF fans happy.

One final comment, RWs rant on Bush and Blair on this recent tour is great because its a Billboard for what B&B believe: Freedom. And Roger knows that.
Animals was during the Carter admin, so no policy maker is immune, liberal or conservative. Thats Rock n Roll.

The concert Thursday was STUNNING! Loved every second, and even liked the song Leaving Beirut. Much more of a stage show than the In the Flesh tour, obviously, with the fire balls, and ya gotta love the pig! Can't wait for the DVD (HD-DVD?). The reason I'm against DG is simply because he hasn't done JACK with PF for how many years?!

DG's recent tour with Richard Wright was great, After all the PF and RW shows I finally got to hear Echoes live.

Can't understand much the notion of anti-DG. I see any bit of Floyd that I can and I feel lucky to get the chance.

So, Wright was with DG and Nick Mason showed up at a few RW shows this time around....interesting.

Lets face it the bass player is one of the easiest members to replace with the exception of JPJ and J. Entwhistle. ...
Dude, Roger wrote the songs. And you call him "the bass player"? David Gilmour had to hire an outside writer to write lyrics since Roger left, because nobody else could...

One final comment, RWs rant on Bush and Blair on this recent tour is great. because its a Billboard for what B&B believe: Freedom.
If they tried to take away the freedom to criticise leadership in nearly any Western country, the cities would erupt in violent riots. Thats the ONLY reason Bush hasn' tried that yet :D

Dude, Roger wrote the songs. And you call him "the bass player"?


Don't forget all the important lead vocals he contributed, too.

Don't be too hard on him - he knows not of which he speaks. ;) :)

I know exactly of what I speak, all fans know waters wrote most of the songs, that doesn't mean you can pack up your toys and go home, declare PF done, sue the remaining members for carrying on. He didn't want to be PF anymore, fine, move on, put out 3 great records. But I also like the 2 Waterless records. Gilmour did the live 8, but i'd be surprised if he did anything else, there is some bad blood. I enjoy PULSE's DSOTM version better than The Bleeding Heart Band's version. I also prefer KAOS over the five albums released after The Final Cut. My point being, I enjoy all five.

Quote "So, Wright was with DG and Nick Mason showed up at a few RW shows this time around....interesting."

And those who attended both the DG concert and one of the NM+RW concerts like myself,.. It was a good year.

-Brian

Edit - PS- RW just finished this tour and is planning another world tour for next year with at the moment has 62 stops.

I know, Seattle was his last North America stop.

What should have DG done with PF? ANYTHING! Nothing since 94's Division Bell.
And I won't watch DSOTM on Pulse anymore after seeing RG's version live the other night (but it is funny that they both had Jon Carin, although he sounded a little rough on Us and Them).

I'm actually glad Gilmour's Pink Floyd hung up their hat. The post-waters Floyd had a couple good tunes, but the rest were forgetable.

I would love to see some professional nods between those 2 camps though, like Roger doing "Learning To Fly", and Gilmour doing "Every Stranger's Eyes" .... wouldnt that be interesting?

So does anyone know for sure whether a recording for a DVD was made at any of the shows?

Ed

Its pretty much a given, no profit center is left unturned :D

I read a Nick Mason interview, and he said they had done some taping in Paris, but that the Hollywood Bowl was also being considered ( this was before that show).

BTW there are loads of amateur videos of these shows on YOUTUBE.

Unfortunately not many of them have a decent zoom lense ...

So Roger is doing an encore "Dark Side of the Moon" concert in Philadelphia on 6/1/07. Is this part of a bigger US tour?

BTW, any word on a DVD from the last DSOM tour?

Ed

After seeing the show, I'm not sure I would buy the DVD. I was pretty disappointed in how little Waters sang during DSOM.

I just heard last night he is coming to Vegas, MGM Grand in June.

After seeing the show, I'm not sure I would buy the DVD. I was pretty disappointed in how little Waters sang during DSOM.I wouldn't go to the concert because I thought the whole concert experience was bad - but I thought that the performance was very good and if the DVD is produced as well as In The Flesh, then I'm really looking forward to it.

Ed

I found this somewhere, its supposed to be almost the same show as 2006. Since I saw that twice, I may skip this round.


May 2007
18 - West Palm Beach, FL - Sound Advice Amphitheatre
19 - Tampa, FL - Ford Amphitheater
22 - Atlanta, GA - Philips Arena
24 - East Rutherford, NJ - Continental Airlines Arena
30 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden

June 2007
1 - Philadelphia, PA - Wachovia Center
4 - Ottawa, Ontario - Scotiabank Place
6 - Quebec City, Quebec - Colisee Arena
7 - Montreal, Quebec - Bell Centre
9 - Chicago, IL - United Center
13 - Los Angeles, CA - Hollywood Bowl
15 - Irvine, CA - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
16 - Las Vegas, NV - MGM Grand Garden Arena
19 - Oakland, CA - McAfee Coliseum
21 - Vancouver, British Columbia - GM Place
23 - Calgary, Alberta - Saddle Dome
24 - Edmonton, Alberta - Rexall Place
27 - Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre
29 - Omaha, NE - Civic Center
30 - St. Paul, MN - Xcel Energy Center

July 2007
2 - Milwaukee, WI - Marcus Amphitheatre
9 - Boston, MA - Fleet Center
13 - Hartford, CT - The Meadows
14 - Toronto, Ontario - Rogers Centre

Wow, the Garden and Contiental. I'd say that's a step up from Jones Beach and PNC.