Its probably been stated, but I havent came across any info on this. Does anyone know?

Nintendo never said anything about it at E3, but yes, supposedly it will be able to play DVDs.

With a special add-on which is kind of ridiculous.

With a special add-on which is kind of ridiculous.

Well it does have the hardware, but licencing to legally play DVDs costs extra... my guess is that's the real cost involved. Seems kinda silly to include the extra price on each Wii since virtually everybody has a DVD player at this point.

Not to mention that they're focusing on making a machine that plays, you know, games...

Well it does have the hardware, but licencing to legally play DVDs costs extra... my guess is that's the real cost involved. Seems kinda silly to include the extra price on each Wii since virtually everybody has a DVD player at this point.

Not to mention that they're focusing on making a machine that plays, you know, games...

You mean a stand alone game playing machine? What the heck is that? :D

With a special add-on which is kind of ridiculous.

Nothing different than what MS did with the XBOX.
This way people aren't paying for features they may not want.

Nothing different than what MS did with the XBOX

MS however realized this was a mistake and changed it. Paying $30 to watch a DVD when you can buy a player for $50 was crazy.

We don't know what the price of the DVD add-on will be.
Too early to tell if this is a mistake by Nintendo. However, with the Wii being as compact as it is, it will make a very nice portable DVD player for those that are on the move.

We don't know what the price of the DVD add-on will be.
Too early to tell if this is a mistake by Nintendo. However, with the Wii being as compact as it is, it will make a very nice portable DVD player for those that are on the move.

I know this is not a popular opinion, but who cares if it plays DVDs? I'm buying a game machine here . . . not a DVD player.

I personally wish Nintendo wouldn't even offer it as an option.

Jay

I think it's a good idea, they are doing there best to keep price point down. DVD is not a necessity but certaintly nice for certain people in certain situations. The problem with the XBox version is that it was (somewhat) costly since not only did you need to pay the license cost, but you also were buying a bad remote. With the Wii, I am hoping for a very small plugin device on the back that is essentially the decryptor on a chip with a connector.

Even better would be a pure software solution that takes up 10 or 20mb of your internal memory.

Yeah, at least we don't have to purchase a separate wiimote control to operate the unit!

DVD functionality is great for kids. The only DVD player my son has these days is his 360.

I know this is not a popular opinion, but who cares if it plays DVDs? I'm buying a game machine here . . . not a DVD player.

I personally wish Nintendo wouldn't even offer it as an option.

Jay


I agree with you but it is a nice feature to have...But the problem with the add-on is they will charge 30-40 when a player costs that now...I say include it or scrap it all together....I wouldnt use it to play dvds anyways.

I agree with you but it is a nice feature to have...But the problem with the add-on is they will charge 30-40 when a player costs that now...I say include it or scrap it all together....I wouldnt use it to play dvds anyways.

Again, we don't know how much the additional accessory will cost. As someone already pointed out, the Wii remote can pretty much mimic a real DVD player remote, so all Nintendo would sell you would be some little additional piece to snap onto the Wii and enable the playback. That may end up only costing $10-$20.

Who would buy this add-on when 80% of the nations households already own a DVD player?

Who would buy this add-on when 80% of the nations households already own a DVD player?


The majority of U.S. housholds have three sets now. And if your game system can play DVDs it saves you having yet another box connected.

What is majority? Chances are if you can buy a Wii, you already have enough dvd players for all your tv's.

What is majority? Chances are if you can buy a Wii, you already have enough dvd players for all your tv's.

Don't know for sure, but there is a huge market for Ps2 dvd remotes. Sony and three 3rd parties all sell them. If there is a market then there are sets out there using consoles for DVD.

Again, we don't know how much the additional accessory will cost. As someone already pointed out, the Wii remote can pretty much mimic a real DVD player remote, so all Nintendo would sell you would be some little additional piece to snap onto the Wii and enable the playback. That may end up only costing $10-$20.

I cant think of one Nintendo product that is that cheap for their main console....I seen recently a progressive scan dvd player albeit not top of the line retailed for $19.99 at a local store so anything above $14.99 would be absurd.

I cant think of one Nintendo product that is that cheap for their main console....I seen recently a progressive scan dvd player albeit not top of the line retailed for $19.99 at a local store so anything above $14.99 would be absurd.


I definitely agree. The Wii itself costs enough to buy 5 DVD players. If you've got enough money to buy 3-5 tvs for your house and then buy a Wii, you probably already have enough to have already bought a DVD player for each set.

I know this is not a popular opinion, but who cares if it plays DVDs? I'm buying a game machine here . . . not a DVD player.

I personally wish Nintendo wouldn't even offer it as an option.

Jay

Exactly. I have DVD players in my closet that I don't even use. They are so cheap now and consoles have never really been the best for movie playback, although of Nintendo offered it it probably would be since their hardware is solid.

I think you guys overlook the "stuff" problem. Small dorm rooms, WAF rooms, children's rooms, people with limited input TV's, etc.

There are a lot of folks out there who, for whatever reason, are willing to pay extra to have one box that does it all.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems that there might be a separate drive to play dvds all together

The company also touted Wii's two-format disc drive. "Instead of a tray, a single, innovative, self-loading media bay will play both 12-centimeter optical discs used for the new system as well as Nintendo GameCube discs. Owners will have the option of equipping a small, self-contained attachment to play movies and other DVD content

http://next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2841&Itemid=2

I think they mean a plug in attachment ala the XBox adapter to play DVD.

Integrated DVD player will save me a set of inputs on the TV and one less set of wires to run.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems that there might be a separate drive to play dvds all together



http://next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2841&Itemid=2


Not to drives just one but with the ability to play cube and dvds...Which boggles my mind, but I guess it would be similar to mini-dvds being able to be played on dvd players...I still dont like the idea of shoving the mini-disc into the insert w/o a tray or something to fit the remaining space of the disc...I am interested to see how this works, but I still dont trust putting a mini-dvd into my dvd drive now. So who knows, but if it is one drive man I can see this thing getting jammed by a bunch of little kids.

Not to drives just one but with the ability to play cube and dvds...Which boggles my mind, but I guess it would be similar to mini-dvds being able to be played on dvd players...I still dont like the idea of shoving the mini-disc into the insert w/o a tray or something to fit the remaining space of the disc...I am interested to see how this works, but I still dont trust putting a mini-dvd into my dvd drive now. So who knows, but if it is one drive man I can see this thing getting jammed by a bunch of little kids.

Nintendo knows that their systems are played by kids. If the slot loading drive could jam easily, they would never release it. They've probably tested the heck out of it to ensure such jamups won't happen.

I still dont like the idea of shoving the mini-disc

I wish it did play Mini-Discs. :)

Nothing different than what MS did with the XBOX.
This way people aren't paying for features they may not want.
This gen yes..Next gen, no..

The odd thing is the system doesn't have an optical out. Which would suggest that movies won't be in Dolby Digital unless they release some additional hardware to enable that.

I think it's really targeted at what a few people mentioned before, dorm rooms and kids rooms. If a kid has a small 19 inch tv with 1 composite video input it's cheaper to spend 20 bucks for a Wii add-on than it is to buy a 30 dollar DVD player and composite splitter. Not to mentioned easier for the kid to use.

This gen yes..Next gen, no..

The Wii isn't next gen. It's a Gamecube with a gimmick controller.

The Wii isn't next gen. It's a Gamecube with a gimmick controller.
There are so many ways to describe the annoying term known as "next-gen." One could argue what you call the "gimmick controller" to be next-gen itself. What is the point in making statements like this? It doesn't accomplish anything other than show your juvenile dislike towards the console.

ANTONPD - Unless you have something you can add to the chat, please do not post on the topic for such replies are not needed for they add nothing.

for me "next gen" doesn't really indicate power, etc.. It is merely relates to the timing of the console. 360 is next gen compared to xbox, etc.

Regardless arguments could be made for you point of view that Wii's controller is next gen where as another consoles isn't due to being similar to last gens controller.

for me "next gen" doesn't really indicate power, etc.. It is merely relates to the timing of the console. 360 is next gen compared to xbox, etc.

Regardless arguments could be made for you point of view that Wii's controller is next gen where as another consoles isn't due to being similar to last gens controller.
Next gen means better..The only thing better is the controller..Charging ppl 250.00 for a GC 1.5 & a new controller is nuts..& how are they going to entice the non gamers with a 250.00 price tag..150.00 would be a great price for 5 yr old technology..

Next gen means better..The only thing better is the controller..Charging ppl 250.00 for a GC 1.5 & a new controller is nuts..& how are they going to entice the non gamers with a 250.00 price tag..150.00 would be a great price for 5 yr old technology..

I don't think they are trying to entice non-gamers, as far as I can tell Wii is strictly for gaming ;) I do agree the speculated $250 seems a bit high for what the systems power (which isn't finalized according to Nintendo) seems to be based off of E3 footage. Of course I'm not sure what the package will included and haven' t had hands on experience with the controller though I've heard great things. Regardless the games have me hooked line and sinker already based off what was shown.

KBI, if you have nothing positive to post about Wii then I suggest you leave this forum.

I've been following your posts and they all seem to be anti-Nintendo.
There is more to gaming than sound and graphics.
Gameplay is all that really matters.

Kyser

Why do you keep saying 5 year old technology? The very idea is ludicrous.
The Nintendo DS uses old technology of touch screen like a Palm pilot. Who CARES if the tech is old? It's how it is UTILIZED that is important.
Counter Strike is still hugely popular and that game is like how old now?
My son and his friends play RUNESCAPE online. Have you SEEN those graphics?
Technically speaking PC's are using 10 year old technology with faster chips.
Really a silly thing to bring up.

Most people bringing up the dated technology are doing so over their opinion of the $250 price for that dated technology. using your own example, a PC with only "updated" (Q will have to come in here and set you strait there) costs a small fraction of what that technology cost you 5 years ago.

Personally the controller and a UBI FPS is worth $300 to me. I know Nintendo is gouging us on the hardware but as long as I get my $300 of enjoyment from the system I really don't care.

Yes but can you buy similar equipment in a PC fopr what the Wii will do for $250?

Yes but can you buy similar equipment in a PC fopr what the Wii will do for $250?

No but you can for $99 and one that does more for $149.99 :) (Minus the controller of course). Thats the thing, some folks are looking at a $250 Wii as a $125 worth of console and a $125 controller.. I am not one of them but I can see their point.

Also . . .

Don't forget that both Sony and MS are mostly likely loosing money on their hardware for the first year or so (maybe more). Nintendo is most likely not losing money on the Wii at a 250 price point . . . if that is in fact what the price point is.

I believe Nintendo told their investors that they will be loosing a little bit of money for the first time. They said this when the announced the "estimated price" in japan.

I would gladly pay 20 or 30 bones for the convenience of having one box connected to my tv.


The way i see the pricing on the wii is that, yes you're basically getting a gamecube with an upgraded controller, but with the virtual console feature you're also getting a nintendo sixty four, an NES, and a Super NES. Plus the sequels to nintendo game titles such as Zelda(which im pretty tweaked about)




i really love the idea of the motion sensor in the controller too : )

im also pretty excited about Red Steel.

im also pretty excited about Red Steel.


EGM trashed it :) (when it was on the E3 floor anyhow)

Not saying they are the god of reviews but they are usually dead on...

EGM trashed it :) (when it was on the E3 floor anyhow)

Not saying they are the god of reviews but they are usually dead on...

Many places trashed it at E3, but apparently Ubi Soft has revised a lot of it and its a lot better now. We'll see when the final product gets released. I know EGM has certainly made some nasty assumptions in the past, like making Enter the Matrix a cover story. We all know how good that game turned out.

Many places trashed it at E3, but apparently Ubi Soft has revised a lot of it and its a lot better now. We'll see when the final product gets released. I know EGM has certainly made some nasty assumptions in the past, like making Enter the Matrix a cover story. We all know how good that game turned out.


Its certainly not my type of game but I think it will open the doors for a lot of innovation on the Wii and give an idea to other developers...Im not to hyped up on it myself...One thing I am definately waiting for from shooting/sword fighting is a Star Wars Light Saber game and how about Bushido Blade! Now that would be cool...

Matrix was a covery story? haha thats laughable but not surprising becuase of the money the movie made.

First of all, I think $250 is a great price for any new gaming system. I remember paying close to $200 for a SNES about 10 years ago, so $250 seems pretty cheap to me considering all the improvements made in the past 10 years. Plus, my fiancee has pre-ordered a PS3 and after all the extra stuff you have to buy, which is all supposed to be optional, but are necessary to play the PS3, he's ending up spending a total of $900 for the system, 2 games, a memory stick, and other parts that are not included in the price of the console. Yes, I realize that PS3 is in a completely different ballpark when it comes to graphics and hardware, but the gameplay itself is what's important to me.

To answer the question about why anyone would want a DVD player function on the Nintendo Wii is very simple-- there are so many different game systems and video players out there, they just don't all fit on one TV. I myself am really hoping the Wii can function as a DVD player. I have a decent TV, but it only has 1 set of A/V inputs and 1 composite input. I also have a DVR from my cable company. The DVR does not support input from any game consoles, just VCR's, which is stupid... so that only leaves the 1 set of A/V inputs for either a game console OR a DVD player. Right now I have a PS2 which doubles as my DVD player, but will have no where to plug it in when I get the Nintendo.

Anyone hear anything new on the DVD subject since the announcements that came out yesterday?

First of all, I think $250 is a great price for any new gaming system. I remember paying close to $200 for a SNES about 10 years ago, so $250 seems pretty cheap to me considering all the improvements made in the past 10 years. Plus, my fiancee has pre-ordered a PS3 and after all the extra stuff you have to buy, which is all supposed to be optional, but are necessary to play the PS3, he's ending up spending a total of $900 for the system, 2 games, a memory stick, and other parts that are not included in the price of the console. Yes, I realize that PS3 is in a completely different ballpark when it comes to graphics and hardware, but the gameplay itself is what's important to me.

To answer the question about why anyone would want a DVD player function on the Nintendo Wii is very simple-- there are so many different game systems and video players out there, they just don't all fit on one TV. I myself am really hoping the Wii can function as a DVD player. I have a decent TV, but it only has 1 set of A/V inputs and 1 composite input. I also have a DVR from my cable company. The DVR does not support input from any game consoles, just VCR's, which is stupid... so that only leaves the 1 set of A/V inputs for either a game console OR a DVD player. Right now I have a PS2 which doubles as my DVD player, but will have no where to plug it in when I get the Nintendo.

Anyone hear anything new on the DVD subject since the announcements that came out yesterday?

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732730p1.html

Not a big issue for some but for the children who have a gaming system in their room it makes it a lot easier to have it bundled in...Not a big issue, sort of a disappointment when they said it would happen and then said it isnt because it is "cheaper" and then release the pricing details...Just laughable.

is would anyone be willing to watch their dvd's wii style?? personally yes i would pay to becuase i dont by dvd players that often, and if you do thats very nice

i'm not into the whole surround sound system/home theater/ hi-def/ plasma thing
and part of the reason is because i like things simple, hurl any insult you may at me for this lol

but my old dvd player is giving me more errors despite the cleanings and the old ps2 is just an annoying interface for

so would i opt for this nintendo style of watching my favorite movies?? yea i would
and if they made a wii specific camera ((sd card only, of course)) i'd probably buy that too :P

i'm not into the whole surround sound system/home theater/ hi-def/ plasma thing
and part of the reason is because i like things simple, hurl any insult you may at me for this lol

courte... welcome to the forum! I hope you stick around and post more, but it sounds like you might be in the wrong place. :confused:

The Wii isn't next gen. It's a Gamecube with a gimmick controller.


I know it's poor form to resurrect a dead thread; however...

When I replaced my Wii due to the video pixellation/overheating problem, one of the inserts in the replacement had a little sticker on it with the words "GameCube Advanced" on it!

I know it's poor form to resurrect a dead thread; however...

When I replaced my Wii due to the video pixellation/overheating problem, one of the inserts in the replacement had a little sticker on it with the words "GameCube Advanced" on it!


Can you please post a picture of that?

The Wii isn't next gen. It's a Gamecube with a gimmick controller.I prefer to say that the Wii is Gamecube plus waggle. If someone is going to make jokes about a platform I like, it might as well be me. :)

I prefer to say that the Wii is Gamecube plus waggle.
:)

Reminds me of a scene from Tin Cup, but it's probably not appropriate. :rolleyes:

-Dan

I think it's a good idea, they are doing there best to keep price point down. DVD is not a necessity but certaintly nice for certain people in certain situations. The problem with the XBox version is that it was (somewhat) costly since not only did you need to pay the license cost, but you also were buying a bad remote. With the Wii, I am hoping for a very small plugin device on the back that is essentially the decryptor on a chip with a connector.

Even better would be a pure software solution that takes up 10 or 20mb of your internal memory.

That would be one GIANT player. :D

Think of 4-5 MB or even less like mplayer of vlc on linux - that's more realistic, I think.

Can you please post a picture of that?

I'd like to see that too! :eek:

Nintendo knows that their systems are played by kids. If the slot loading drive could jam easily, they would never release it. They've probably tested the heck out of it to ensure such jamups won't happen.

Nice sentiment but wrong. Why would they use some special slot load drive? My kids managed to fubar the Wii about 1 week after purchase by trying to load 2 games at once. Happily the Nintendo service center is in the area, they had a new drive swapped out and tested within 20 minutes.

By Tim Surette, GameSpot
Posted Nov 14, 2006 12:45 am GMT

When Nintendo dished out its final specifications for the Wii, there seemed to be one glaring omission--DVD playback. With the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 touting built-in multimedia players, the Wii seemed to be only next-generation console unable to provide movie playback.

Now, less than a week before the Wii is even on shelves for the first time, it appears that those final specifications weren't so final after all. After weeks of speculation and Internet reports, it has been confirmed that the Wii will eventually get DVD playback.

Sonic Solutions, makers of the popular Roxio CD- and DVD-burning software, today announced that it has been chosen by Nintendo to provide "high-quality DVD movie viewing to a future version" of the Wii. Sonic Solutions says the new version of the Wii is expected in "the latter half of 2007."

When asked for comment, a representative from Nintendo confirmed the statement from Sonic Studios.

Nintendo has yet to make a formal announcement about the new Wii, and has not indicated whether DVD playback is part of a console redesign.

Probably enough horsepower to do this in software....so do they sell a Wii.2 or do they make it a $$ download??? hmmm....

That announcement is from November of last year. In the 6 months since, Nintendo has been completely quiet on this. Folks have previously speculated on whether or not this requires a new Wii or just a download from the online store, but there hasn't been much said recently, so... Who knows.

Well it does have the hardware, but licencing to legally play DVDs costs extra... my guess is that's the real cost involved. Seems kinda silly to include the extra price on each Wii since virtually everybody has a DVD player at this point.

Not to mention that they're focusing on making a machine that plays, you know, games...

actually nintendo havent focussed on anything really, certainly not the gaming community or multimedia. Wii is fun for a few minutes but unless youre 10, soon gets old. The wii shipped with a dvd drive but wont play dvds.why? because nintendo are cheapskates. Where sony and MS make losses with their consoles, they have either excelled with games (MS) or have another option to buy the system (sony = blu ray).
To be honest, the last couple of lines from your comment are strange..........seeing as the PS2 only outsold and killed the dreamcast for one reason.........it could play dvd movies.
And seeing as the xbox360 after the new dashboard and price drop, outsold the wii....IN JAPAN!! (new dash does allow many neat additions), just goes to show people want more from a system.
Oh yea, and forget the wii and any prospect of a decent LIVE service......MS own that one. You really think nintendo can do the same thing with their next toy..........er console (ie wii-mote etc) and get away with it or call it "new" or pioneering? very much doubt it.

That announcement is from November of last year. In the 6 months since, Nintendo has been completely quiet on this. Folks have previously speculated on whether or not this requires a new Wii or just a download from the online store, but there hasn't been much said recently, so... Who knows.

actually it can be done through homebrew....but as the wii is so underpowered, (and its video encoder is so crap for dvd - trust me, Ive modded a few, and seen it) its simply not worth it

oh yea another reason to own a 360 or even a ps3 over a wii......hi def 1080p streaming from the hard drive. AND the netflix setup on the new 360 dash is a really great idea.

You wear out the DVD laser faster on dual layer discs on the Wii too, so there's another reason its not recommended.

Wow, perfect timing on bumping this year-and-a-half-old thread! For you see, I recently turned 11 and am thus now out of the Wii's intended demographic. Please tell me more about this "XboX three-sixty"--this is the first I've heard of such an invention! From your description, I assume it to be some wondrous magical super-machine from the future and/or heaven. Do you know when the Grand Celestial Factories plan on releasing it to this time period? For I will surely be there on release day to purchase it with my Ambrosia Dollars (President Palin is on the $70 bill). I hope the Japanese won't have bought them all up before I get there in my horse and buggy.

Thanks again ever so much for the info! :D:D:D:D:D:D

actually nintendo havent focussed on anything really, certainly not the gaming community or multimedia. Wii is fun for a few minutes but unless youre 10, soon gets old. The wii shipped with a dvd drive but wont play dvds.why? because nintendo are cheapskates. Where sony and MS make losses with their consoles, they have either excelled with games (MS) or have another option to buy the system (sony = blu ray).
To be honest, the last couple of lines from your comment are strange..........seeing as the PS2 only outsold and killed the dreamcast for one reason.........it could play dvd movies.
And seeing as the xbox360 after the new dashboard and price drop, outsold the wii....IN JAPAN!! (new dash does allow many neat additions), just goes to show people want more from a system.
Oh yea, and forget the wii and any prospect of a decent LIVE service......MS own that one. You really think nintendo can do the same thing with their next toy..........er console (ie wii-mote etc) and get away with it or call it "new" or pioneering? very much doubt it.

actually nintendo havent focussed on anything really, certainly not the gaming community or multimedia. Wii is fun for a few minutes but unless youre 10, soon gets old. The wii shipped with a dvd drive but wont play dvds.why? because nintendo are cheapskates. Where sony and MS make losses with their consoles, they have either excelled with games (MS) or have another option to buy the system (sony = blu ray).

Well enjoy the high power console while they last . . because both Sony and MS took a bath this generation in loses.

I'll bet they both are not pushing the cutting edge next generation.

Meanwhile . . Nintendo had a modest system and cleaned up.

The most powerful system rarely comes out on top.

To be honest, the last couple of lines from your comment are strange..........seeing as the PS2 only outsold and killed the dreamcast for one reason.........it could play dvd movies.

You don't think the PS2 success had anything to do with the incredible momentum they created with the PSONE? Interesting.

And seeing as the xbox360 after the new dashboard and price drop, outsold the wii....IN JAPAN!! (new dash does allow many neat additions), just goes to show people want more from a system.

Show us the data for this . . I don't believe you.

Oh yea, and forget the wii and any prospect of a decent LIVE service......MS own that one. You really think nintendo can do the same thing with their next toy..........er console (ie wii-mote etc) and get away with it or call it "new" or pioneering? very much doubt it.

Live is great and fine and all . . as far as online game play goes . . I personally think it wouldn't be hard at all for Sony or Nintendo to usurp Live next generation. . . and let's not forget that Nintendo's online service and Sony's online service are free.

Nice try though chump.

Live is great and fine and all . . as far as online game play goes . . I personally think it wouldn't be hard at all for Sony or Nintendo to usurp Live next generation. . . and let's not forget that Nintendo's online service and Sony's online service are free.

Nice try though chump.

PSN is getting better. But with Nintendo's online, you get what you pay for. Needing player codes for online multiplayer goodness is the stupidest thing ever.

And while Sony and Nintendo can beat out MS next gen, XBL is still the best service this gen. And online, it's easy to find 12 month cards that are much cheaper than $50.

PSN is getting better. But with Nintendo's online, you get what you pay for. Needing player codes for online multiplayer goodness is the stupidest thing ever.

And while Sony and Nintendo can beat out MS next gen, XBL is still the best service this gen. And online, it's easy to find 12 month cards that are much cheaper than $50.


While I agree that Wii Friend Codes can be a pain, there are exceptions...

The EA Sports games this year (and previous years, AFAIK) don't even use the Nintendo servers for online play. They access EA's system. Because of this you get:

1 - No FC's - your EA online handle is your Code. One can search the EA system for other players by name. Random online opponents can also be sent messages/friend invites/etc very easily.

2 - Unlike games (mainly 1st party) that use the Nintendo WFC, the EA games can have their online data saved to SD. Nintendo WFC titles cannot due to, according to Nintendo, preventing corruption of the system (?). Basically, games like Kart, Brawl, etc cannot have save data sent to SD. Must stay within the Wii that they were initially saved on. However, I have moved my Madden 09 data to SD, should I ever need to free up space internally.

But considering what Wii's online DOES do, it isn't THAT bad. It's no XBL, but it is free.