The thread title states my simple question. I know the PS3 supports 1080p over BD-ROM and I know the PS3 WILL do upconverting of regular DVDs, but will this upconverting be to 1080p or only to 1080i? Also, is it known what chip drives the upconversion in the PS3? Thanks for any info!

It will upconvert to 1080p

Thanks! Just making sure, this is for REGULAR DVDs, right?

Correct, all older released movies in the DVD format will be upconverted. While the majority (if not all) Blu-Ray movies will be in 1080p.

I don't know that it has been confirmed at all that PS3 will upconvert to 1080p for regular dvd's.. in fact I doubt it will but if you have a link to prove me wrong I would be glad to see it.

Yes, I'd also appreciate a link to some article if you have it.

No link, I could be wrong but didnt they say it would upconvert regular dvds at the E3 press conference?

I know Sony doesnt want us viewing DVDs on the ps3, but rather viewing Blu-Ray movies.

If the industry holds to previous standards, the lower model will not upconvert DVD's due to the lack of HDMI port.

If the industry holds to previous standards, the lower model will not upconvert DVD's due to the lack of HDMI port.


Cant 1080p be achieved through components?

Cant 1080p be achieved through components?

I do not believe that 1080p is officially part of the component spec. I could be wrong, but I believe it stops at 1080i. The electronics industry also does not officially support upconverting DVD's over component connections. I'm not sure if this is a gentlemen's agreement, or if licensing comes into play. I know that Samsung has been in hot water recently because one of their DVD players was able to upconvert over component by way of a simple hack.

Considering that your 1080p display will be able to upconvert whatever signal the PS3 puts out, is this really an issue? I know that in theory upconversion in the PS3 can be better than what is done in the display. But what we've seen so far from deinterlacing and upconversion at the player level vs the display level leads me to believe that in practice, it doesn't matter.

component cables can output 1080p but it is up to the source manufacturer to do so.

I haven't seen anything in any real specs for PS3 regarding upconversion of regular DVDs. I don't know anyone else who has either. I know there was some talk last year but IMO talk is worthless and often misleading or outright wrong.

Is 1080p going to make that much difference over 1080i with 480i material anyway? It is pretty much just line doubling at that point anyway.

I'd rather the PS3 do the upconversion because then only one conversion will be performed. If the PS3 would only upconvert to 1080i, then both the console's converter and TV's converter will have to function perfectly. The more complicated something gets the easier it is for something to go wrong. I firmly believe that 1080p will provide a better picture than 1080i over HDMI. I'm only concerned about HDMI anyway, since I will be getting the $599 version and have two 1080p-inputting HDMI connections on my TV.

component cables can output 1080p but it is up to the source manufacturer to do so.

Hollywood does not want anyone to upconvert DVD thr' component to anything more than 480p. Infact they have filed a case against Samsung which upconverts over analog to 1080i. You can check the SD DVD forum for all the details - people there are always looking for upconverting players which do upconvert over analog. Many no-name brands (from Taiwan) do that ... but none of the major brand upconvert over analog. Likewise, AACS restricts BD movies to 1080i over analog.

That is the reason why XBox 360 limits DVD playback to 480p.

Hollywood does not want anyone to upconvert DVD thr' component to anything more than 480p. Infact they have filed a case against Samsung which upconverts over analog to 1080i. You can check the SD DVD forum for all the details - people there are always looking for upconverting players which do upconvert over analog. Many no-name brands (from Taiwan) do that ... but none of the major brand upconvert over analog. Likewise, AACS restricts BD movies to 1080i over analog.

That is the reason why XBox 360 limits DVD playback to 480p.
Aren't LCD flat panel users always in luck? I mean doesn't every source they receive get upconverted (or downconverted) to the TV's native res? So any 480i DVD will be displayed in 1366 x 768p? (1366 x 768p is the native res of my set)

I don't care if PS3 cant upconvert standard DVD's to 1080p, but only because I don't own a 1080p set. However, I do own a 1080i/720p set. So has it been confirmed as to whether or not PS3 will upconvert to 1080i/720p resolutions?

Aren't LCD flat panel users always in luck? I mean doesn't every source they receive get upconverted (or downconverted) to the TV's native res? So any 480i DVD will be displayed in 1366 x 768p? (1366 x 768p is the native res of my set)

Not just lcd panels but any digital display. Anyway, there is no knowing what paronia drives Hollywood execs ...

I don't care if PS3 cant upconvert standard DVD's to 1080p, but only because I don't own a 1080p set. However, I do own a 1080i/720p set. So has it been confirmed as to whether or not PS3 will upconvert to 1080i/720p resolutions?

No it hasn't. As has been stated over and over in this thread, if the PS3 is capable of upconverting it will ONLY be the HDMI version which will support this process.

Ok, now the question is...will the PS3 allow pixel mapping?

The Ps3 will upconvert to 1080p over HDMi, however it may not be a better upconverter or maybe worse than your average joe DVD-upconverter. Will it upconvert over component?Who knows, probably not?

Will it upconvert my 720p tv to 1080p? :)

Ok, now the question is...will the PS3 allow pixel mapping?
Whats that mean?

Whats that mean?
In non-technical terms, 1:1 pixel mapping is when the source material sends an image that is not scaled at all by the display. He could be inquiring as to whether the PS3 scales sources to the native resolution of peoples' various displays.

The Ps3 will upconvert to 1080p over HDMi

Source?

Source?
still wondering if the PS3 will upconvert.. and if so, anyone know whether it might do it as well as something like an oppo 971

still wondering if the PS3 will upconvert.. and if so, anyone know whether it might do it as well as something like an oppo 971Then answer is no. The PS3 will NOT upconvert DVD's.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=739172

If the industry holds to previous standards, the lower model will not upconvert DVD's due to the lack of HDMI port.

FYI, the 20GB model DOES have an HDMI output.

FYI, the 20GB model DOES have an HDMI output.
You may know this, but he posted that in May when the 20GB version in fact did not have an HDMI output in its specs.

If the PS3 doesn't initially support DVD upconversion, is it possible to add that functionality through a "system update"?

If the PS3 doesn't initially support DVD upconversion, is it possible to add that functionality through a "system update"?

An update would be able to do it since the maching is basically a computer with all the capability to upscale. It is possible that a hack of some sort comes out down the road if Sony doesn't come up with one. It is also possible that all the common HTPC programs in use today to scale DVD movie's multiple times and other programs like nvidia's decoders could be implimented into Linux once the RSX code is broken...It will be interesting to see when that happens. Until then, I don't believe the PS3 will upconvert SD-DVD's natively, even if you set the output to 1080p, it won't be doing the same thing as all of Sony's upconverter DVD players....

An update would be able to do it since the maching is basically a computer with all the capability to upscale. It is possible that a hack of some sort comes out down the road if Sony doesn't come up with one. It is also possible that all the common HTPC programs in use today to scale DVD movie's multiple times and other programs like nvidia's decoders could be implimented into Linux once the RSX code is broken...It will be interesting to see when that happens. Until then, I don't believe the PS3 will upconvert SD-DVD's natively, even if you set the output to 1080p, it won't be doing the same thing as all of Sony's upconverter DVD players....

There is no proof that it won't...but it probably will...If the Xbox 360 can upconvert DVDs to 1080p.....after a software update...then the PS3 will be able to do it at launch or with a software update..

All the bluray players out there will upconvert to 1080p...

Even if it could, not sure you would want it to. My experience has been that my TV (JVC P70R1U) does a much better job of handling any upscaling than having the attached equipment do it (ex. STB, DVR, DVD).

- Dan

Even if it could, not sure you would want it to. My experience has been that my TV (JVC P70R1U) does a much better job of handling any upscaling than having the attached equipment do it (ex. STB, DVR, DVD).

- Dan


Yes, my Samsung also does a great job upconverting as well. Even though my Sony DVPNS75H upconversion makes the image look sharper, sometimes the mroe natural upconversion that occurs by my HLR5087W makes DVD's look even mroe natural and film-like. It all depends...

Slightly off topic, but is this lack of upconversion DVD's only? Or would it apply to say, DivX and XviD?

There is no proof that it won't...but it probably will...If the Xbox 360 can upconvert DVDs to 1080p.....after a software update...then the PS3 will be able to do it at launch or with a software update..

All the bluray players out there will upconvert to 1080p...Sony's stated it won't upconvert. I'm sure they wanted to get that bit of news out of the way to avoid any nasty surprises when people get them home.

Sony has officially stated that the PlayStation 3 will not upscale DVDs. As far as PSone and PS2 games are concerned, Kaz Hirai has stated in an interview with IGN that they will play "in their original form". We would take this to mean that they won't be upscaled either, but Sony has not made an official statement either way.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

Or you could buy a nice sony receiver that upconverts every source thrown at it. Or you could buy me one, and I'll test it for you and then let you know. Buy me one. :D

Sony's stated it won't upconvert. I'm sure they wanted to get that bit of news out of the way to avoid any nasty surprises when people get them home.



http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

Old artical, wrong info, they retracted it.
PS3 upconverts DVD's

They took the quote wrong, he was talking about ps2 & 1 games, possibly only the downloadable ones imo.

but because of that story, they're now not sure if "original form" for games means no upconversion. I don't see why not, I think he meant just no updates to gfx (but with up conversion)

TyrantII, do you have the source for that? I just want to make sure.

Old artical, wrong info, they retracted it.
PS3 upconverts DVD's

They took the quote wrong, he was talking about ps2 & 1 games, possibly only the downloadable ones imo.

but because of that story, they're now not sure if "original form" for games means no upconversion. I don't see why not, I think he meant just no updates to gfx (but with up conversion)I understand the confusion but you've got it backwards. IGN is saying maybe games will be upconverted, although it's doubtful. But Sony has been very clear that DVD upconverting is not supported at launch.

Old artical, wrong info, they retracted it.
PS3 upconverts DVD's
They retracted it? Please provide some proof of this as you seem to be the only person that has seen a retraction.

Every report I have read reports that the PS3 will upconvert PS1 and PS2 games, but NOT Standard (480i) DVD's.

Personally I don't think it is that big of a deal that it doesn't. But this thread was brought back from the dead and seems to be hot topic in other forums here as well and I hate to see incorrect information posted in the gaming forums yet again. It makes the gaming forums look misinformed compared to the other forum sections.

Oh there is plenty of misinformation at other boards as well WirelessGuru ;)

But I agree that I'd rather not see it so frequently.. A lot of it though seems to be very intentional .

no it can not

They retracted it? Please provide some proof of this as you seem to be the only person that has seen a retraction.

Every report I have read reports that the PS3 will upconvert PS1 and PS2 games, but NOT Standard (480i) DVD's.

Personally I don't think it is that big of a deal that it doesn't. But this thread was brought back from the dead and seems to be hot topic in other forums here as well and I hate to see incorrect information posted in the gaming forums yet again. It makes the gaming forums look misinformed compared to the other forum sections.

my bad, looks like i was the one that mis-read the retraction they put on it.

indeed, this seems to suck, i have no idea why it wouldn't when one of the cells biggest marketability platform is it's video processing power...


ahh well

It'll be cool if it can pass 480i through HDMI.

It'll be cool if it can pass 480i through HDMI.

Agreed. That would be a good feature as a digital transport to a external scaler.

The hard media has been known for some time, but here's the full list.

# BD-ROM
# BD-R
# BD-RE
# DVD-ROM
# DVD-R
# DVD-RW
# DVD+R
# DVD+RW
# CD-ROM
# CD-R
# CD-RW
# Super Audio CD

The PS3 will also allow you to access a variety of media file formats from the video, music and photo menus of the Cross Media Bar. We're assuming these files can be stored anywhere, including the hard disk and memory cards.

VIDEO
# MPEG-1
# MPEG-2 (PS,TS)
# H.264/MEPG-4 AVC
# MPEG-4 SP

MUSIC
# ATRAC (.oma .msa .aa3)
# AAC (.3gp .mp4)
# MP3 (.mp3)
# WAV (.wav)

IMAGES
# JPEG
# GIF
# PNG
# TIFF
# BMP

I just don't get it, somethings fishy..

Look at all the formats sony is boasting that the PS3 handles, and the multiple interviews where they state how much they want the PS3 to be the centra media hub for a families living room...

I'm starting to wonder if someone didn't understand the question, and reported something back differently, because upconversion seems like something right at home with what the PS3 is trying to offer, yet it's absent...

My bets saying it was a mis communication, but either way it looks like we could just rip a dvd and upconvert it ourselfs to MP4 and play that (if its worth your hassle)

If it can't do it then just boot into Linux and use a very good software player to do it... Seems like it'll be fine either way.

I wish this was some kind of mistake, but Sony seems to be taking the position that the PS3 will not upconvert anything.

The most likely cause of this position is they don't want to risk a situation where newer DVDs and newer PS2 games start looking a little too good.

Sony seems to cash starved due to losses incurred with PS3 production & the PS2 slowdown.

They seem to be on financial life-support and are doing everything possible to drive Blu-ray movie and game sales (including banning upconversion).

I wouldn't hold out much hope for 3rd party updates to the PS3 either, Sony has showed with the PSP that they will use firmware updates to lock the system down tighter than ever.

what's the point?

if you want 1080P, that's why it has blu-ray.

I've not been real impressed with players that "upconverts" material - including the denon with faroudja upscalers.

If it does upconvert, i bet the improvements will be marginal

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/740/740601p4.html

Hopefully the upconverting will come in a firmware update, keep your fingers crossed!

It's a shame that, one by one, we are seeing some functions of the PS3 slipping away under our noses. True Sony fashion, I suppose. Nevertheless, it's making me second guess buying a PS3 all together. I am, at the very least, definitely not getting one in November.

More for all of you.

It's a shame that, one by one, we are seeing some functions of the PS3 slipping away under our noses. True Sony fashion, I suppose. Nevertheless, it's making me second guess buying a PS3 all together. I am, at the very least, definitely not getting one in November.

More for all of you.

Functions slipping away one by one? I'd ask you what functions you're talking about, but I don't want to draw this thread off-topic. If you're only talking about upscaling standard DVDs, then there's nobody to be upset with but yourself. It's not Sony's fault you have some preconceived notions of what the PS3 should be doing in this regard. If it does upscale, great. If not, well... I'm not going to be upset that it does not do something that was never promised.

As for your other "functions of the PS3 slipping away", I have to say I can't disagree with you more. In fact, as more and more information about PS3 is released the more I want one. I am unbelievably happy with what this thing can do right out of the box, not to mention what you can do with a full linux distribution installed. Being disappointed by a supposed lack of functions on PS3 is something that I just cannot fathom.

As said above they never said it would,that being said it should because it is completely able to hardware wise.They did decide to give the 20gig version HDMI which they were not going to do in the first place.You want to talk about lack of funtions then look at the xbox360,whats been next gen about it?

PS3 does not upconvert anything. Sony's official line is that PS1, PS2, and regular DVDs "will be preserved in their original format."

PS3 does not upconvert anything. Sony's official line is that PS1, PS2, and regular DVDs "will be preserved in their original format."


Do you have a link?

Happy PS3 owner here to report that upconversion of DVD video does not exist on the PS3.

Hollywood does not want anyone to upconvert DVD thr' component to anything more than 480p. Infact they have filed a case against Samsung which upconverts over analog to 1080i. You can check the SD DVD forum for all the details - people there are always looking for upconverting players which do upconvert over analog. Many no-name brands (from Taiwan) do that ... but none of the major brand upconvert over analog. Likewise, AACS restricts BD movies to 1080i over analog.

That is the reason why XBox 360 limits DVD playback to 480p.

HDMI and component will not allow upconversion of standard DVD's beyond 480P. This applies to both PS3 and Xbox 360. It's not a technical issue (well, for the PS3, any upconversion is a technical issue for the moment). Rather it's a DMCA issue. CSS forbids upconversion over component and HDMI. That's the law.

Xbox 360 gets around this law thru the VGA connection. The VGA connection is a computer connection and when they drafted the rules, they didn't include computer connections. So an Xbox 360 will upconvert all DVD's to 1080P thru the VGA connection.

Happy PS3 owner here to report that upconversion of DVD video does not exist on the PS3.

Thanks for bumping a dead topic on something we've been talking about for weeks already.

That's partly false, HDMI is allowed to upconvert DVD's. CSS allow up conversion because of the build in security through HDMI. component is not allowed because a lack of security and VGa is allowed to because of the computer interface loophole. Every upconverting DVd player besides the 360 does it's upconversion through HDMI.

The reason the PS3 can't upconvert anything is it lack a useable scaler. There may be a scaler in the PS3 but Sony does not allow it to be used for anything right now.

That's partly false, HDMI is allowed to upconvert DVD's. CSS allow up conversion because of the build in security through HDMI. component is not allowed because a lack of security and VGa is allowed to because of the computer interface loophole. Every upconverting DVd player besides the 360 does it's upconversion through HDMI.

The reason the PS3 can't upconvert anything is it lack a useable scaler. There may be a scaler in the PS3 but Sony does not allow it to be used for anything right now.

There are ways to get upconverting DVD players to allow component upconversion, though some tech savyness is involved and you need to do research for your specific player to find the codes you need to enter to disable the component blockage

Thanks for bumping a dead topic on something we've been talking about for weeks already.Would you rather he started a new thread???

Would you rather he started a new thread???

I'd rather he use the countless other threads full of complaints (justified of course) still on the first page.

Sub,

You are clearly mistaken, any number of upconvert DVD player operate over HDMI (which is secure thanks to HDCP or something like that...).

The PS3 doesn't upconvert because Sony didn't place any scaling hardware in the system (as seen by the 1080i mess) and because they didn't have a software solution in place for launch.

They may never release software updates for PS1/PS2/DVD upconverting because they won't make money of it.

I'm currently looking in the new Oppo 1080p upconvert DVD player for $230.

They may never release software updates for PS1/PS2/DVD upconverting because they won't make money of it. They also didn't have to include the SACD playback on the PS3 but they did it anyway. Since I'm not Hizrai, I can't say for certain that DVD will be upconverted with a future firmware. But the Cell is more than capable of doing that.


fuad

So if I'm playing a regular DVD on my PS3 (which doesn't upconvert), but the video signal goes through my Denon AVR-4306 (which is suppose to upconvert everything) through an HDMI cable to my TV then I will be seeing that DVD in 1080P/1080i? Just trying to figure out what resolution I'm viewing my DVD's in. I'm a noob... :P

So if I'm playing a regular DVD on my PS3 (which doesn't upconvert), but the video signal goes through my Denon AVR-4306 (which is suppose to upconvert everything) through an HDMI cable to my TV then I will be seeing that DVD in 1080P/1080i? Just trying to figure out what resolution I'm viewing my DVD's in. I'm a noob... :P

When in doubt just hit your menu button on your tv remote to see what resolution it says.

(oppo dv-981hd) I have this unit, it does a nice job. I'm happy with it, but not as nice as BR on PS3

So if I'm playing a regular DVD on my PS3 (which doesn't upconvert), but the video signal goes through my Denon AVR-4306 (which is suppose to upconvert everything) through an HDMI cable to my TV then I will be seeing that DVD in 1080P/1080i? Just trying to figure out what resolution I'm viewing my DVD's in. I'm a noob... :P


The 4306 doesn't "Upscale" any signals. It "Upconverts" all signals to HDMI so you can run one cable to your display. So you can plug a 480i composite signal in and run HDMI out. The resolution does not change.

A better explanation:

Video Conversion: The AVR-4306 is equipped with a flexible video switching system that converts video signals in an effort to only require one video connection from receiver to TV. Unlike most other conversion circuits, this receiver will convert analog signals from composite video, S-Video, and component video to HDMI.

Composite Video: can be converted to S-Video, component video, or HDMI
S-Video: can be converted to composite video, component video, or HDMI
Component Video: can be converted to composite video, S-Video, or HDMI (480i signals only when down converting)

I just purchased a new PS3 last week. I had to upgrade the firmware as soon as I started the system. I put in a regular DVD, and it upconverts the DVD's no problem. I have an HDMI cable connected directly from the PS3 to the back of my Sony SXRD 50" and the picture quality is excellent. Thought I would let everyone know...

I just purchased a new PS3 last week. I had to upgrade the firmware as soon as I started the system. I put in a regular DVD, and it upconverts the DVD's no problem. I have an HDMI cable connected directly from the PS3 to the back of my Sony SXRD 50" and the picture quality is excellent. Thought I would let everyone know...

Sorry dude, doesn't upconvert. Not sure what the hell your talking about and how you're coming to conclusion that it's upconverting.

Rumor has it that the March FW update could finally allow software emulation and scaling that should allow for DVD upconversion.

I just purchased a new PS3 last week. I had to upgrade the firmware as soon as I started the system. I put in a regular DVD, and it upconverts the DVD's no problem. I have an HDMI cable connected directly from the PS3 to the back of my Sony SXRD 50" and the picture quality is excellent. Thought I would let everyone know...

Your TV is probably doing the scaling, not the PS3.

Sub,


I'm currently looking in the new Oppo 1080p upconvert DVD player for $230.

Why, does your 1080P lack a scalar too? My cheap Westinghouse has one of the best scalars around, just let the TV do it. It's the same function - who cares which device does it?

Your TV is probably doing the scaling, not the PS3.

Agreed. He's probably confusing the TV scaler with the PS3 scaler.

Why, does your 1080P lack a scalar too? My cheap Westinghouse has one of the best scalars around, just let the TV do it. It's the same function - who cares which device does it?

Not lacking a scaler, just an inferior one. The DCDi chip in the Oppo is MUCH better than any conventional TV scaler.

Not lacking a scaler, just an inferior one. The DCDi chip in the Oppo is MUCH better than any conventional TV scaler.

DCDi is not for upscaling. DVDs films are 480P, you don't need to deinterlace them.

Upscaling is like praying. You'll convince yourself of the effects if you pay $230, but I bet you'd fail a blind test. You may want to do some more research before you waste money on something so insignificant.

DCDi is not for upscaling. DVDs films are 480P, you don't need to deinterlace them.

Upscaling is like praying. You'll convince yourself of the effects if you pay $230, but I bet you'd fail a blind test. You may want to do some more research before you waste money on something so insignificant.

Upscaling is a science. I can certainly tell the difference between quality upscaling and generic upscaling. It's not trivial and when done right can have a very significant PQ difference.

Upscaling is a science. I can certainly tell the difference between quality upscaling and generic upscaling. It's not trivial and when done right can have a very significant PQ difference.

I'd love to hear the differences in "quality" and "generic" upscaling. I've been down the HTPC+ffdshow upscaling holy grail quest now. I have the 360 upscaling to 1080P via VGA and my cheap JVC 480P player. I use my JVC 95% of the time, it's hard to tell on my 42" and my TV has a good scaler. The 360 seems to do a good job, but the added noise isn't worth the hassle.

I'd love to hear the differences in "quality" and "generic" upscaling. I've been down the HTPC+ffdshow upscaling holy grail quest now. I have the 360 upscaling to 1080P via VGA and my cheap JVC 480P player. I use my JVC 95% of the time, it's hard to tell on my 42" and my TV has a good scaler. The 360 seems to do a good job, but the added noise isn't worth the hassle.

Algorithms, my friend, algorithms. I could probably write a functional upscaling algorithm in a few days but it would pale in comparison to some of the high end algorithms. Upscaling in it's simplest form is just a guessing game. Who guesses better is what determines the quality of the final product and the overall PQ the user perceives.

DCDi is not for upscaling. DVDs films are 480P, you don't need to deinterlace them.

Upscaling is like praying. You'll convince yourself of the effects if you pay $230, but I bet you'd fail a blind test. You may want to do some more research before you waste money on something so insignificant.SD-DVD's are 480i. Since you do not know something so basic, I will stay away from your advice about upscaling being insignificant.

The PS3 can't upconvert DVD to anything other then 480P! Period!!!!

I remember my OPPO player was awsome! That thing made stuff look HD!

PS3 upscales now with update 1.81...just wanted to let u know.
I would link but I am restricted. You can check it out under system update and Playstation PS3 page.

YEP IT DOES, for all software. Including PS1, and PS2 games.

confirmed, I have my ps3 set to 1080p only, and I tried a dvd, a psx game, and a ps2 game. All were displayed in full 1080p :)

Wow old thread.
We have come a long way. :)

resurrecting the dead?

The PS3 won't upscale my beta tapes yet. I'm hoping they include an update to the system so that works. It takes a mighty effort to get them in the tape bay - they really should have made that better design: I have to unspool my tape and feed it into the disc drive slot. It takes forever. Oh well, hopefully in the next update.

An update would be able to do it since the maching is basically a computer with all the capability to upscale. It is possible that a hack of some sort comes out down the road if Sony doesn't come up with one. It is also possible that all the common HTPC programs in use today to scale DVD movie's multiple times and other programs like nvidia's decoders could be implimented into Linux once the RSX code is broken...It will be interesting to see when that happens. Until then, I don't believe the PS3 will upconvert SD-DVD's natively, even if you set the output to 1080p, it won't be doing the same thing as all of Sony's upconverter DVD players....


It is funny reading old "prediction" posts about what I think is going to happen. So far the RSX hasn't been cracked for use with Linux and SD-DVD upscaling is already here :) What would be interesting would be a crack that allows you to tweak the upconversion process... Now wait and see, in six months that feature is added by Sony in a firmware update as well... :)

I doubt Sony might ever allow access to the RSX through Linux. The simple reason is, that if Linux is allowed access to the RSX, it might then be able to play PS3 ISOs.

Never know though, Sony has been good to us lately :).

My guess is that some crackers will unlock the RSX and Emotion Engine for use in Linux.

The PS3 won't upscale my beta tapes yet. I'm hoping they include an update to the system so that works. It takes a mighty effort to get them in the tape bay - they really should have made that better design: I have to unspool my tape and feed it into the disc drive slot. It takes forever. Oh well, hopefully in the next update.


I can't decide if I should advise you to try harder, or not try as hard....

Absolute -

I agree that converts signals to HDMI... But - you are wrong on upscaling.

The 4306 has the Faroudja DCDi HD Video Scaler -

I've got it sitting in my theater right now and I do get the option for upconversion. My issue is that DCDi is notorious for macroblocking... so I do not use it.

BG



The 4306 doesn't "Upscale" any signals. It "Upconverts" all signals to HDMI so you can run one cable to your display. So you can plug a 480i composite signal in and run HDMI out. The resolution does not change.

:)YES ! PS3 upconverts 480i to 1080p:)
I noticed that JUST half an hour ago, although I have read in a internet review-post that it does not. (Maybe the older models)

MINE DOES convert to 1080p (SHown on the Sony display)
and the picture is as good as 90% HD (I trust my eyes, and believe me i am very picky)...but make sure u connect via hdmi.

thanks sony !

MY ONLY BEEF IS MY SXRD CROP BARS IS NOT AS BLACK AS THEY SHOULD BE....THEY ARE BLUISH-BLACK !:mad:

Will sony do something about it ???:confused:

:)YES ! PS3 upconverts 480i to 1080p:)
I noticed that JUST half an hour ago, although I have read in a internet review-post that it does not. (Maybe the older models)
:D Welcome to PS3 post-firmware update 1.8 !!

Nothing to do with "older models." Standard def DVD upscaling came with a firmware update around the time that this thread died. Coincidence?

I seemed to have run into a little problem I'll just give one example I put the first XMen BD disc in and when I went to the special features which are 480p and all im getting is 480p60480p this of course doenn't happen with my Panasonic DMP-BD-35 just the PS3 tried it with Kill Bill same thing I have the right display and reciever Can anyone help?

Sony Bravia 40W4100 1080p
PS3 160GB
Pioneer DV-600AV
Panasonic DMP-BD-35
Toshiba HDDVD A35
Sony Vaio VGC-RC310G(BD)
Onkyo TX-SR605 AV

PS3 doesn't upconvert BD.