OLED is becoming SED...

No it isn't. There isn't a single consumer SED product in the market - compare that with the many OLED phones, PMPs, and coming TVs.

OLED is here to stay, at least for portable devices.

SED is a horribly inefficient technology. A bunch of CRT tubes? Really?

No it isn't. There isn't a single consumer SED product in the market - compare that with the many OLED phones, PMPs, and coming TVs.

OLED is here to stay, at least for portable devices.

SED is a horribly inefficient technology. A bunch of CRT tubes? Really?

It's too expensive, and we haven't really seen it. Sure it's available in 15", but who really wants a set that size?

And for clarification, I'm not interested in how it works for phones and portable media players.

It's too expensive, and we haven't really seen it. Sure it's available in 15", but who really wants a set that size?

And for clarification, I'm not interested in how it works for phones and portable media players.

But unlike SED, at least OLED has an actual product available. Still a very small step, but at least they've something.

Meanwhile, in the SED camp.......well you already know it by now:D;)

It's too expensive, and we haven't really seen it. Sure it's available in 15", but who really wants a set that size?

And for clarification, I'm not interested in how it works for phones and portable media players.

That's funny, since LCD basically started monochormatic in digital watchers and portable game devices. While OLED already started showing incredible colour quality and contrast ratio.

SED is a horribly inefficient technology. A bunch of CRT tubes? Really?

SED is more effficient than OLED in certain ways.

A potential large screen SED display wouldn't be "active matrix". It is more akin to impulse CRT technology. Motion on a SED display will look liquid smooth. AM-OLED on the other hand has a hold time just like LCD.

SED is very power efficient.

That's funny, since LCD basically started monochormatic in digital watchers and portable game devices. While OLED already started showing incredible colour quality and contrast ratio.

+1. We're in the very early years of OLED displays. It has taken several decades for LCDs to reach the large sizes that are currently available for purchase (70"+). Perhaps OLED won't take as long as LCD, but we're still years out. A 15" OLED TV from LG means OLED TVs are getting larger (i.e. progress is being made).

To the SED bit. While Canon's SED and Sony's FED looked to be amazing display tech, we really haven't seen anything going on with either - other than Canon stating recently that SED was still in R&D. Who knows where the R&D went from Sony's FED... perhaps a complete loss. I sure would like to have that FED demo... FED monitor displaying a 240 FPS source at 240Hz refresh (no motion interpolation)!

Anyways, I saw the Zune HD this weekend, and the OLED display in that unit is incredible! Great appetizer for larger OLED displays! :)

.....SED is very power efficient.

VaporWare always is.

They will unquestionably figure out the problems associated with OLED and it will become a huge mainstream product. There is just too much money in it and the problems are not insurmountable. Technology is ALWAYS like that.

Kodak OLED updates (http://www.oled-info.com/kodak-oled-updates)
23 September 2009

In June 2008, I interviewed Corey Hewitt and Dr. James Buntaine from Kodak OLED Systems (http://www.oled-info.com/kodak/kodak_oled_systems_information_and_interview).

Mr. Corey Hewitt is the co-general manager, operations manager and VP of Kodak OLED Systems. Dr. James Buntaine is the second co-general manager, and also the CTO and VP.

They were kind enough to send us an update on Kodak's OLED program and market outlook:

Kodak OLED Technology Update & Advancements

Kodak expertise and experience lies in material discovery, organic layer design, mechanistic understanding, image science, panel/module design, and manufacturing technology. These key value drivers associated with the Kodak technology, know-how and patents, maintain Kodak as an industry leader in enabling both the OLED flat-panel display and OLED solid-state lighting industries. Provided below are selected key areas technology and Kodak accomplishments:

• Increase in efficiency:


Low voltage materials (6.2V with 2-stack tandem)
Novel dopants (50% year on year efficiency with long lifetime)
Molecular modeling abilities with numerous OLED molecules per year being produced

• Property optimization:


Intra-layer material formulation with chemical optimization of material combinations


Fundamental optics modeling provides rapid design of organic stacks to meet new panel specs


Inter-layer architecture design allows for simultaneous property optimization of spectral, power, lifetime, yielding 50% year on year improvements

• Scientific knowledge:


Degradation mechanism understanding drives new molecule design from fundamental science, saves years of empirical research


Triplet exciton harvesting efficiency is closing the theoretical performance gaps

• Image quality enhancement:


Color-power mgt 25+% power reduction
Automatic brightness limiting manages peak current requirements
Tone scale optimization provides for ideal scene reproduction
Pseudo resolution boost: e.g. QHD to HD using quad subpixels

• Advanced design characteristics:


Achieving world’s best light extraction with minimal thickness
Pixel circuit design compensates for non-uniform, unstable TFT
Printed chiplet panel design creates novel advanced designs for non-TFT AMOLED
SSL design manages IR/luminance drop across a panel

• Yield improvement:


Vapor Injection Source Technology (VIST): demonstrates material utilization of >70% and uniformity of <1.3 % (You can read more about VIST in our previous interview)


Ability to reduce TAC time from 8 minutes to 20 seconds


TFT yield improvement accomplished by Global Mura Compensation (GMC) with 30 sec calibration time. Kodak “Advanced GMC” will apply to medium / large TV applications. (You can read more about GMC in our previous interview)


OLED yield improvement by use of Short reduction layer, decreasing dark pixel count by as much as 95%

Key hurdles for large-scale growth in OLED (display & lighting)

Kodak technologies address nearly all-critical performance parameters throughout the OLED value chain, which include:


Scalability: The ability to realize fully scalable large-size panels to Gen5+ scale will need Kodak’s proprietary White OLED technology (here's our previous interview with Kodak, focused on White OLEDs).


Lifetimes: Proprietary architecture allowing significant improvement in lifetime (Tandem OLED)


Manufacturing costs: Increased material utilization and reduced TAC (VIST); minimization of capital requirements (repurpose TFT facilities); expansion to flexible substrates (deposition techniques)


Yields: Ability to overcome TFT variations (GMC for display) and reduce defects (short-reduction layer)
It has become apparent that many companies have experienced, or are in the process of identifying these very difficult technical challenges in order to be profitable. Kodak discovered many of these challenges several years ago, and has continued to work diligently on these issues. Kodak is in a good position to provide know-how solutions to the OLED manufacturers of the future for both lighting and display.

Recent improvements in fluorescent devices:


Green: 8.5% E.Q.E., 31 cd/A, > 65,000 hours lifetime at 1,000 cd/m2


White tandem for display applications:



15.5% E.Q.E., 36.5 cd/A, CIEx,y = 0.28, 0.33, 50,000 hours lifetime at 1,000 cd/m2

15.0% E.Q.E., 33.2 cd/A, CIEx,y = 0.28, 0.31, 87,000 hours lifetime at 1,000 cd/m2



White single stack for display applications: 7% E.Q.E., 15.8 cd/A, CIEx,y = 0.31, 0.33, 25,000 hours lifetime at 1,000 cd/m2

Recent improvements in hybrid white fluorescent/phosphorescent systems:

Hybrid white fluorescent/phosphorescent systems for display applications have achieved 25.7% E.Q.E., 49 cd/A at CIE x,y = 0.34, 0.30 and 40,000 hours lifetime at 1,000 cd/m2.


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OLED for white-light

Kodak has succeeded in demonstrating an OLED device architecture having an efficacy over 66 lm/W. This remarkable, world-leading efficacy exceeds the target of the DOE Energy Star Program for SSL while maintaining a color and CRI that meet specifications. The architecture is based on small molecule OLED and comprises four key technology components that enable this achievement: internal light extraction-enhancement structure, low voltage design, stacked architecture, and fluorescent-phosphorescent hybrid emitters. We are simultaneously improving the device lifetime and can see possibilities of T50 lifetime exceeding 50,000 hours operating at 1,000 cd/m2 luminance.

In addition to device performance, we are also working on many key technologies which we believe are critical to success of OLED lighting. We have begun building OLED prototypes incorporating these technology components; the 6” panels displayed at SID2009 are a good demonstration of our initial efforts. A few examples of Kodak technologies targeting critical manufacturing issues for OLED lighting are:


Kodak’s proprietary internal light extraction-enhancement structures more than double the out-coupling efficiency of white OLEDs;


Unique monolithic-integrated serial connection panel architecture enables the fabrication of large area lighting panels with low cost and minimal IR loss. This structure is also fault tolerant, reducing the impact of shorting defects;


Short-reduction layer reduces the density of shorting defects by orders of magnitude, which can greatly improve the manufacturing yield of OLED lighting panels;


Vapor Injection Source Technology (VIST) will drastically reduce the manufacturing cost of OLED lighting panels by increasing material utilization and reducing TAC time. We believe TAC times <30 seconds are required to meet cost targets for lighting;


Tandem OLED architecture that allows significant improvement in lifetime and enables a convenient method to balance the OLED emission to meet the Energy Star color requirements;

In order for OLED lighting to successfully compete in the marketplace, manufacturing cost must be addressed. Kodak believes OLED lighting panels can be manufactured with acceptable margins if TAC times are <30 seconds. Kodak’s VIST is a critical technology to achieve such low TAC times. Standard crucible technology used for manufacturing OLEDs today would require exceedingly high deposition temperatures to achieve such short deposition times, resulting in degradation of OLED materials. High temperature deposition is also incompatible with the desire to move toward flexible, plastic substrates. As an added benefit, early results from Kodak’s VIST process show improved device lifetime, likely due to purer deposition of organic materials at high rates.

Another great feature of OLEDs is Chiplets

Kodak presented a joint paper with Semprius at SID 2009, detailing our work combining OLEDs with chiplet backplane technology. This technology is attractive, because it enables OLEDs to be manufactured without a TFT fab. The technology has the potential to revolutionize the industry, enabling new features (flex, sensors, …) and opening new markets for OLED. Chiplets would leverage the foundry model of the semiconductor industry, opening a path for OLEDs to have much lower cost than LCD. Kodak and Semprius have:


Demonstrated feasibility of AMOLED displays using transfer-printed integrated circuit backplanes;


The luminance, contrast, uniformity, and controllability of the resultant OLED displays were comparable to or better than the performance of commercially available LCD displays;


Demonstrated high yields with the transfer printing process.


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0.75-inch Chipmunk OLED Display (64x64)

SID 2009 and FPD 2009 Demonstrations

Kodak demonstrated several innovations for OLED displays at the SID’s Display Week 2009.

1. High-Brightness RGB to RGBW Transform Technology:


Double the luminance of your RGBW display with the push of a button
No additional voltage required (same power supply and TFT design)
No significant degradation of visual image quality

2. Compensation Technology for Low-Cost, Large OLED Displays


Prevents image-stick by compensating for the aging of OLED materials and a-Si TFT
Compensation is performed with no impact to the viewer
Developed in partnership with Ignis Innovation, Inc.

3. Kodak Global Mura Compensation Technology (GMC) was featured in the Kodak AMOLED Wireless Picture Frame (a CNET Editor’s Hot Pick of CES 2009 and winner of a Photokina Star Award).

Kodak also demonstrated its world-class OLED lighting technology at SID 2009.


Recipient of Frost & Sullivan 2009 OLED Lighting Enabling Technology of the Year Award


More than 65 lm/W efficacy, meeting DOE Energy Star specifications for color and color rendering index


Long-life fluorescent and hybrid architectures


Novel light extraction structures, short reduction layer, and fault-tolerant panel architecture that enables the fabrication of large area lighting panels with low cost and minimal heat loss


Recognized by the Department of Energy for outstanding performance in the field of OLED solid state lighting and awarded a $1.7M contract

Please visit Kodak’s booth at FPD International in Yokohama, Japan October 28-30, 2009 for the latest innovations in OLED for display and lighting!

Industry Outlook

The worldwide recession resulted in slower capital investments, which have delayed the OLED industry market ramp. We believe several OLED manufacturers continue to prepare for large growth and scale for the future. It seems almost every day there are updates for new display products (near eye displays, phones, TVs, Laptops) coming to market. In addition, OLED lighting applications are making a lot of progress. Kodak remains very optimistic both markets will eventually reach their full potential and that Kodak’s technology and know-how will assist in the ramping process for creating low-cost, high-quality OLED applications and products of all sizes and applications.

You can find more details on Kodak's technology over at Kodak's web site (http://www.kodak.com/go/display/).

The 89% NTSC color of the LG 15" is probably a result of using the Kodak RGBW system, where only white OLED is used. To get color they use a filter for Red, Green, and Blue.

OLED is becoming SED...
OLED is a proven technology. For example, OLED products actually exist in the marketplace to be purchased. SED was never brought to the market. The future of TVs will be Plasma vs. OLED. LCDs will be phased out like CRTs.

With all these advancements, investments and press, where are the large OLEDs? What are remaining obstacles that keep this technology from mainstream TV market? My fear is that the technology is probably ready but the greedy companies will want to milk the LCD market dry by endlessly introducing small incremental improvements to LCD technology until there's nothing left to improve, artificially delaying arrival of large and cheap OLEDs.

...The future of TVs will be Plasma vs. OLED. LCDs will be phased out like CRTs.

Some of us think plasmas will go away before LCDs. And considering the reduction in the number of companies actually still manufacturing plasmas.....

With all these advancements, investments and press, where are the large OLEDs? What are remaining obstacles that keep this technology from mainstream TV market? My fear is that the technology is probably ready but the greedy companies will want to milk the LCD market dry by endlessly introducing small incremental improvements to LCD technology until there's nothing left to improve, artificially delaying arrival of large and cheap OLEDs.

The problem is not being able to create large flawless panels. This is the same thing with LCDs and plasma's. They start out small and get larger over time as manufacturing kinks get ironed out. It's not that they can't create large OLED screens, it's that the manufacturing failure rate is too high to make them commercially viable.

One thing manufacturers absolutely have to avoid is selling a lot of OLED TVs and then having them returned or recalled because of problems. They have to be very careful.

AMOLED revenue has set a new record in Q2 2009 (http://www.oled-display.net/amoled-revenue-has-set-a-new-record-in-q2-2009)
28 September 2009


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Displaysearch reported that the worldwide OLED revenue has set a new record, 192 Million Dollars in the second quarter 2009. This is more about 32% as in the first quarter 2009, and 22 % more then in 2008.

The global OLED market in 2016 is about 6.2 billion dollars. OLED TV will be the second largest application, with revenues of about $2 billion in 2016.

This year the AMOLED shipments grew due to strong mobile phone main display shipments. 15 mobile phones from Samsung, Nokia, Sony Ericsson were released in 2009.

Samsung Mobile Display (SMD) had a strong Q2’09, and as a result, it maintained the #1 position in shipments with 38% market share, followed by RiTdisplay at #2.

As we reported many companies strengthened their OLED business, and there are about 20 new or upgraded AMOLED production lines installed or upgraded worldwide in the next three years.

The next step for OLED is the Netbook and Notebook market. Notebooks are an attractive area starting in mid 2010, with netbooks expected to be in production by end of 2010. 20-29” OLED TVs will enter market by the end of 2010, with 30” and larger TVs forecast to enter the market in late 2011.

Full Report: Displaysearch (http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/090928_oled_displays_find_success_mobile_phones_with_q2_09_r evenue_192m.asp)

OLED TV makers look to shift out of neutral (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10364735-1.html)
30 September 2009


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LG's 15-inch OLED TV, which is set to go on sale in Korea by December.

Though LG's eye-popping OLED (organic light-emitting diode) display wowed audiences in Berlin last month, it's best not to get too excited. There's not going to be more where that came from, at least for a while.

The industry is still at least three years away from churning out standard-size televisions of 32 inches or larger at something approaching acceptable prices. And though Sony grabbed all the attention in early 2008 with its $2,500 11-inch OLED, it's faded into the background when it comes to nudging the technology forward. Initially promising to follow up with 21-inch and 27-inch models, Sony's deferred those plans while battling bigger problems with its TV business.

With Sony on the sidelines, it seemed like we were witnessing yet another false start for a technology that's been intent on challenging existing TV standards like LCD and plasma for almost half a decade now.

Beset by the standard issues that come with bringing a new technology into the mainstream, like the exorbitantly high cost of development, OLED TVs might be on the verge of shifting out of neutral as new standard bearers for the technology emerge. The ones to watch now are Samsung and LG Electronics, which have each signaled that they're ready to make larger investments in OLED technology for TVs.

At the OLEDs World Summit 2009 in San Francisco on Wednesday, still most of the hope surrounding this nascent branch of the display industry was focused on energy efficient lighting and smaller displays for cell phones and MP3 players, since that's where the money is coming from right now.

DisplaySearch analyst Jennifer Colegrove said that the second quarter of 2009 was the best quarter yet for the OLED industry, with revenues reaching $190 million worldwide. It's good--and perhaps unexpected--news for a burgeoning technology that was just beginning to ramp up right when the recession hit.

But while they're finding success putting OLED in smartphones, these companies are still trying to figure out how to prove that the desirable properties of OLED--ultrathin displays, brighter, crisper images, and improved energy efficiency--can be produced efficiently on a large scale. The reason they're extra cautious: the factories needed to stamp out 30- and 40-inch TVs cost at least $1 billion to build and equip. "They need to prove it will scale before making a huge investment," noted Barry Young, managing director of the OLED Association.

For now, these 11- and 15-inch TVs are coming off production lines intended to make 2-inch and 3-inch displays. It works, but only as a temporary solution; they can't produce the amount of displays per year necessary to be profitable or meet demand.

LG says it plans to start selling its 15-inch OLED in South Korea by the end of the year. But for now, it only has the capacity to make 200,000 per month, or 2.4 million per year. Compare that to Samsung and its more advanced infrastructure for OLED displays for cell phones and MP3 players. On Wednesday Ho-Kyoon Chung, advisor to Samsung Mobile Display, said by next year its factories will be pumping out 10 million displays per month smaller than 15 inches.

LG won't be able to expand past 200,000 per month until at least 2010. But the two highly competitive Korean companies watch each other closely ("They're like two brothers that fight. One always has to do what the other is doing," is how one industry analyst put it). The competition's effect could push OLED TVs closer to the mainstream, both in screen size and in price.

The cost of OLED TVs at retail is still laughably unrealistic for most. "Price points on these displays are very steep," noted iSuppli's Jakhanwal. "The 11-inch Sony is still $2,500. The LG (OLED TV) might be in the same range." Though larger size OLED TVs might start appearing in three years, pricing is harder to predict now.

There's also a wild card in this deck: Apple. A whirlwind of speculation has surrounded the company's plans (or lack thereof) for building a tablet computer. Some in the industry have wondered if the screen will be an OLED, though Jakhanwal said that's less likely. "I feel they're more likely to start using OLEDs for iPods rather than launching straight away to a tablet. Apple's strategy has always been to use current, existing technology for its products, and work on (getting the) pricing down," she said.

Though that could be tough for suppliers because Apple has a way of getting prices to "unbelievable levels," as she noted, it could be a boon to retail shoppers. If Apple were to drive down the prices of smaller OLEDs, even for iPods or iPhones someday, it could shift pricing of larger displays for notebooks and TVs as well. And cheaper components mean more vendors will buy them and more choice for consumers.

In the meantime, "Price continues to be an issue," said Jakhanwal. "High premiums (are) not acceptable in the market."

OLED demonstration Video from MIT associate professor Vladimir Bulovic:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/10/02/video-oled-technology-explained-using-a-pickle-and-an-igor/#continued

OLED demonstration Video from MIT associate professor Vladimir Bulovic:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/10/02/video-oled-technology-explained-using-a-pickle-and-an-igor/#continued

LOL! Saw that yesterday. Looks like Sony's XEL-3.. :(
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Sizzlin'!

OLED demonstration Video from MIT associate professor Vladimir Bulovic:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/10/02/video-oled-technology-explained-using-a-pickle-and-an-igor/#continued

I use pickle lights throughout my house. It's just the smell I can't stand;)

I use pickle lights throughout my house. It's just the smell I can't stand;)

Yep, I do the same; but I just turn them into relish once they start to stink. :p

LOL, nice one RGB! Sony's new plywood backed Kosher-XBR200

OLED TV makers look to shift out of neutral (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10364735-1.html)
30 September 2009

There's also a wild card in this deck: Apple. A whirlwind of speculation has surrounded the company's plans (or lack thereof) for building a tablet computer. Some in the industry have wondered if the screen will be an OLED, though Jakhanwal said that's less likely. "I feel they're more likely to start using OLEDs for iPods rather than launching straight away to a tablet. Apple's strategy has always been to use current, existing technology for its products, and work on (getting the) pricing down," she said.


I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Apple. They could have put an OLED in the iphone or Touch but they didn't because they wanted to make sure the devices were visible in direct sunlight. Now they use a transreflective LCD that is visible in direct sun.

Right now the Zune HD is an alternative to the ipod if you want OLED.

LOL! Saw that yesterday. Looks like Sony's XEL-3.. :(
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9558/xel3.gif

Sizzlin'!

Hmm interesting, look out OLED, SED, and LCD behold the prototype LEP (Light Emitting Pickle) display.

Hmm interesting, look out OLED, SED, and LCD behold the prototype LEP (Light Emitting Pickle) display.

That's it. I'm buying a couple jars of Vlasic pickles and building me a 100" display.

A technique for multi-line addressing in OLED displays (http://www.embedded.com/columns/technicalinsights/220301323?_requestid=342973)
5 October 2009

Organic light emitting diodes have unique drive challenges; this circuit uses the TFT at each active matrix display or the OLED diode in a passive OLED display as a demodulator to detect OFDM carriers.

Multi-line addressing is a method of driving one or more lines simultaneously in a display to increase frame rate without increasing line rate and in the case of OLED displays, multi-line addressing can reduce power consumption, improve lifetime and generally give active-matrix capabilities to passive OLED displays (Reference 1).

Because passive OLED displays have a truly active device (an Organic Light-Emitting Diode) at each pixel, this diode can act as a demodulator for amplitude-modulated orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (OFDM) carriers on the rows and columns of the display. Although this may seem at first like an unnecessarily complicated approach to addressing pixels in a display (after all, we just turn rows and columns high or low for most displays), Figure 1 shows that any use of binary (digital) signals cannot simultaneously address pixels on more than one line without inadvertently addressing pixels on other lines. As shown in the figure, an attempt to digitally control two pixels in different lines (pixel 1 and pixel 8 in this case) results in turning on two more unintended pixels, pixels 1 and 7 which are the mirror of pixels 2 and 8.


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Figure 1: Problems with digital multi-line addressing
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Because of the digital control problems, methods of multi-line addressing are inherently analog at the pixel level. Image data is still manipulated digitally in processors where methods of image decomposition are used to break an image into row and column data, which are then converted to analog signals by digital/analog converters (DACs). The analog row and column signals are basically OFDM carriers, where each frequency component in the row and column signals represents the control of a single pixel in the display.

The current POLED displays that implement multi-line addressing (and work in any active-matrix display without using Walsh functions such as in active addressing used for only passive LCDs) was initially described in Patent 5644340 filed in 1995 (Reference 2). In this method, each column signal in the display is a separate reference frequency (the same as a local oscillator) and each row is a linear combination of all the column reference frequencies with a given amplitude.

The intersection of each row and column signal then maps the frequency control of each pixel (the same frequency exists on each column, but is different on each row). Each pixel contains a simple demodulator circuit, which demodulates the incoming row and column signals to produce a signal-amplitude that controls the brightness of the pixel (Figure 2). In this way, all pixels can be controlled simultaneously with varying brightness.


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Figure 2: Pixel cell architecture
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Each pixel has exactly the same circuit: a demodulator for frequency discrimination of the row and column frequencies and a low-pass filter for producing a DC-amplitude control of the pixel. The frequency discrimination and low-pass filter characteristics in Figure 2 determine how close row and column frequencies can be spaced and what the highest frequency is required for a given display resolution.

As seen in Figure 3, a 1920×1080 HDTV display can be realized with a maximum line frequency of 385 kHz, assuming 200 Hz frequency discrimination. The frequency discrimination and frame rate of the display is controlled by the cut-off frequency of the low-pass filter at each pixel in Figure 2. The same maximum frequency of 385 kHz drives each line at the same time, reducing the need for a much faster line-by-line clock. With the low-frequency requirements of the display in Figure 3, power consumption is reduced for the same pixel brightness when compared to a display using a single, high frequency dot-clock.


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Figure 3: Maximum frequency for HDTV
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In a flashback to the days of crystal radio, it has been found that the OLED diode in the passive OLED display can act as both a demodulator and low-pass filter of row and column signals (Reference 3) [Editor's note: if you are unfamiliar with the diode and the basic, passive crystal radio, which was the first mass-market "electronic" circuit, you need to do some basic research--and even build one!] With the anode connected to the row and cathode to the column (or reversed if the polarity of the signals is taken into account), the OLED demodulator produces the characteristic sum and difference frequencies which when appropriately filtered with the LPF generated the intended DC control of the pixel. A thin-film transistor in an AMOLED display works just as well if not better as a demodulator when properly biased (with the source connected to a column signal and the gate to a row signal, for instance).

With the price of active matrix OLED displays (AMOLED) dropping rapidly, the advantage of multi-line addressing in OLED displays may seemed short-lived, but even AMOLEDs may be able to benefit from the reduced frequency and power requirements of multi-line addressing. The bigger advantages of multi-line addressing may come in the bandwidth savings in driving data to a display, as the lower pixel frequencies allow more bandwidth for increased frame rate based on the fastest OLED response time. Also, larger display resolutions such as UXGA can be developed that will run at high frame rates without taxing the OLED pixel response. With high-resolution and high-bandwidth display applications on the horizon, architectures that utilize multi-line addressing are likely to be considered.

References


Cambridge Display Technology Press Release (http://www.cdtltd.co.uk/news/546.asp)
"Frequency Mixing for Controlling Individual Pixels in a Display," (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5644340.html)
"Transient response of passive matrix polymer LED displays," (http://www.ee.calpoly.edu/~dbraun/papers/ICSM2000BraunEricksonK177.html)

About the author

Michael Harney is an Electrical Engineer working in industrial and vehicle electronics. He is the holder of four patents and has a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from Utah State University

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OLED Display Technology and Capabilities (http://www.ecnmag.com/article-OLED-capabilities-100609.aspx)
6 October 2009

The organic light emitting diode (OLED) display is becoming more and more popular, especially for mobile phones, media player and small entry level TVs. Contrary to a standard liquid crystal display, the OLED pixel is driven by a current source. To understand how and why the OLED power supply impacts the display picture quality, it is key to understand the OLED display technology and power supply requirements. This article explains the latest OLED display technology and discusses the main power supply requirements and solutions. A novel power supply architecture tailored to the OLED power supply requirements is also presented here.

Market environment

All major mobile phone companies by now offer one or more models featuring an OLED display. Sony has the first OLED TV in mass production and many other companies show first prototypes. The OLED display offers wide color gamut, contrast ratio, viewing angle and fast response time. This makes the display ideal for multimedia applications. The self-emitting OLED technology doesn’t require a backlight and the power consumption depends on the display content. Power consumption can be much lower compared to a LCD using backlight. With a larger panel size the superior image quality of an OLED becomes more noticeable. Therefore, more and more OLED panels being used have a display size >3” and the ultimate application in the future still might be the TV panel. Another market for the OLED display is certainly the flexible display. Currently, the OLED and electrophoretic display technology look most promising. The electrophoretic or bi-stable display being used for electronic reader applications needs to be improved in color quality. On the other hand, currently OLED display is not ready for mass production when using fully-flexible materials. This depends mainly on the backplane technology.

Backplane technology enables flexible displays

High-resolution color active matrix organic light emitting diode (AMOLED) displays require an active matrix backplane using an active switch to turn each pixel on and off. The liquid crystal (LC) display amorphous silicon process is mature and provides a low-cost active matrix backplane, and used for OLEDs as well. For flexible displays companies are working with an organic thin film transistor (OTFT) backplane process. This process also can be used for an OLED display to realize flexible, full color displays. Whether a standard or flexible OLED is being used the same power supply and driving mythology needs to be applied. To understand the OLED technology, capabilities and its interaction with the power supply, a closer look into this technology is given. The OLED display itself is a self-emitting display technology and doesn’t require any backlight. The material for the OLED belongs to the category of organic materials due to its chemical structure.

OLED technology requires a current control driving method

A simplified circuit, representing one pixel, is shown in Figure 1. The OLED has electrical characteristics very similar to a standard light emitting diode (LED) where brightness depends on the LED current. To turn the OLED on and off and to control the OLED current a control circuit, thin film transistors (TFTs) are being used.


http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedImages/Ecn/Articles/OLED-TI-Figure%201-100609.jpg


In Figure 1, transistor T2 is the pixel control transistor turning each pixel on and off. This is similar to any other active matrix liquid crystal display topology. A T1 is used as a current source, and the current is given by its gate source voltage. The storage capacitor is Cs, which holds the gate voltage of T1 stable and clamps the current until the pixel is addressed again. The simple single transistor current source in Figure 1 has a major cost advantage since only two transistors are required. The disadvantage of the simple circuit is a variation in current depending on process variations and voltage variation of Vdd. The OLED power supply circuit usually provides two voltage rails: Vdd and Vss. The voltage rail, Vdd, needs to have very tight regulation to achieve best picture quality and to avoid image flicker. The voltage regulation accuracy of Vss, which usually is a negative voltage, can be less accurate since it has a minor effect on the LED current. The effect of voltage fluctuations on Vdd to the OLED display is shown in Figure 2.


http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedImages/Ecn/Articles/OLED-TI-Figure%202-100609.jpg


As the voltage supply Vdd changes, OLED brightness changes as well. Any superimposed voltage ripple on Vdd, can cause horizontal bars on the image due to different brightness levels. Depending on the display, a voltage ripple larger than 20mV already can cause such a phenomena. The visibility of the horizontal bars depends on amplitude and frequency of the superimposed voltage ripple. As soon as the frequency interferes with the frame frequency the bars appear. Under a normal laboratory environment the superimposed voltage ripple on Vdd is usually smaller than 20mV. The problem appears as the display and power supply are integrated into a system. As soon as any sub-circuit in the system draws pulsating current from the system power supply a voltage ripple appears, common to all circuits connected to the system power supply. Typical sub-circuits drawing pulsating current are the GSM power amplifier in a mobile phone, motor driver, audio power amplifier or similar. In such systems, the system supply rail has a superimposed voltage ripple. If the AMOLED power supply doesn’t reject this ripple, it will appear on its output as well causing the discussed visible image distortion. To avoid this, the AMOLED power supply needs to have a very high-power supply rejection ration and line transient response.

For the AMOLED power supply a boost converter is required for the positive voltage rail, Vdd, and a buck-boost or inverter for the negative voltage rail, Vss. This puts the challenge to the IC manufacturer providing a suitable power supply IC providing a very accurate positive voltage rail, Vdd, and negative voltage rail, Vss, achieving minimum component height and smallest solution size.

To meet all these requirements a novel power supply topology is chosen to provide both positive and negative output voltage rails from a Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery using just a single inductor.

SIMO regulator technology enables best-in-class picture quality


http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedImages/Ecn/Articles/OLED-TI-Figure%203-100609.jpg


Figure 3 shows the typical application circuit using the TPS65136, a device with single-inductor multiple-output (SIMO) regulator technology. The device operates with a four-switch buck-boost converter topology. SIMO technology features best-in-class line transient regulation, buck-boost mode for both outputs and highest efficiency over the entire load current range.

Advanced power save mode enables highest efficiency

As with any battery-powered equipment, long battery standby time is only achieved when the converter operates at highest efficiency over the entire load current range. This is especially important for an OLED display. The OLED display consumes its maximum power when the display is fully white, and much lower current for any other display color. This is because only the white color requires all the sub-pixels red, green and blue to be fully turned on. For example, a 2.7 inch display requires 80mA current for a fully white picture and only 5mA current when icons or graphics are displayed. Therefore, the OLED power supply needs to provide high converter efficiency at all load currents. This is achieved by using an advanced power save mode technology reducing the converter switching frequency as the load current decreases. Since this is done using a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO), possible EMI problems are minimized and the minimum switching frequency is controlled to be outside the audio range of typically at 40kHz. This avoids possible audible noise caused by ceramic input or output capacitors. This is especially important when using the device in a mobile phone application and simplifies the design process.

Conclusion

Since OLED display technology is just emerging, there is still a lot of room to conserve power, increase OLED efficiency and minimize the total solution size. As OLED becomes more mature, it is also possible to use OLED for architectural lighting or as backlight for LC Displays. Both opportunities allow lower power consumption and higher design flexibility compared to traditional lighting solutions. For OLED technology, the future seems to be very bright.

References

To download a datasheet on the TPS65136, visit: www.ti.com/tps65136-ca.
To learn more about this and other power solutions from TI, visit: www.ti.com/power-ca.

Author

Oliver Nachbaur is a member of the Technical Staff at Texas Instrument in Germany where he is a System Engineering Manager for the Display Power Converter group. Oliver has over a decade of experience in the semiconductor industry working as an Applications Engineer and System Engineer on Power Management Products. Oliver received a degree in Electrical Engineering in Ravensburg, Germany. He can be reached at: ti_onachbaur@list.ti.com.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/147666,dupont-develops-oled-that-could-last-114-years.aspx

Now that they have the short lifespan problem solved, OLED should finally start to show up in BIG TVs.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/147666,dupont-develops-oled-that-could-last-114-years.aspx

Now that they have the short lifespan problem solved, OLED should finally start to show up in BIG TVs.They are getting closer and here are the latest OLED lifetime numbers from DuPont (from this press release (http://www2.dupont.com/Displays/en_US/news_events/article20090527.html) and this press release (http://www2.dupont.com/Media_Center/en_US/daily_news/june/article20090624.html)):

Green: over 1,000,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 25 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.26, 0.65).

Red: 62,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 13 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.68, 0.32).

Blue: 38,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 6.0 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.14, 0.12).

They are getting closer and here are the latest OLED lifetime numbers from DuPont (from this press release (http://www2.dupont.com/Displays/en_US/news_events/article20090527.html) and this press release (http://www2.dupont.com/Media_Center/en_US/daily_news/june/article20090624.html)):

Green: over 1,000,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 25 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.26, 0.65).

Red: 62,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 13 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.68, 0.32).

Blue: 38,000 hours at 1,000 cd/m2 with a current efficiency of 6.0 cd/A and color coordinates of (0.14, 0.12).

Waaah, fantastic updates there.

I mean, if this already amazing enough, then what more with future upgrades and improvements.

With that said, this is really positive developments in OLED (and thus we could even see more updates on this after year 2010).

Exciting times indeed :D

:)

So 38,000 hours is about 4 years 4 months if you keep it on 24 hours a day.

Of course people aren't going to do that but will it maintain the same brightness as when brand new for 4 years, through all the on/off cycles?

Or will it degrade as it approaches the end of life for blue?

Disruptive Factors in the OLED Business Ecosystem (http://www.informationdisplay.org/article.cfm?year=2009&issue=09&file=art5)
- includes discussion regarding OLED burn-in

OLEDs – Promises, Myths, and TVs (http://www.informationdisplay.org/article.cfm?year=2009&issue=09&file=art6)
- not entirely accurate but OLED lovers should like this article

Emerging Technologies for the Commercialization of AMOLED TVs (http://www.informationdisplay.org/article.cfm?year=2009&issue=09&file=art7)

DuPont's OLED secrets stolen already!

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139014/Former_DuPont_researcher_hit_with_federal_data_theft_charges ?taxonomyId=82

Former DuPont researcher hit with federal data theft charges
Meng accused of wrongfully accessing a company computer

So 38,000 hours is about 4 years 4 months if you keep it on 24 hours a day.

Of course people aren't going to do that but will it maintain the same brightness as when brand new for 4 years, through all the on/off cycles?

Or will it degrade as it approaches the end of life for blue?The OLED lifetime is how long it takes for the luminance to decrease to half of the initial brightness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnGdhZfP0E

It's made of small passive matrix oled tiles, nothing special.

Report on the Global and Chinese OLED Industry (http://www.azooptics.com/details.asp?newsID=4806)
14 October 2009

Research and Markets has announced the addition of the "Global and China OLED Industry Report, 2009" report to their offering.

Compared with TFT-LCD, cost on raw materials of OLED is at least 70% lower; because OLED needs not polarizing plate, backlight module or color filter. However, OLED is still in a dilemma. In 2009, Active Matrix OLED emerged, and OLED TV also made its debut. The growth of OLED speeds up, but bottleneck still exists.

OLED has very weak anti-oxidation ability, which restricts its development. Moreover, OLED equipment has to be driven by high electric current; therefore LTPS-TFT substrate is a must for it.

LTPS keeps cost of OLED at a high level. At present, OLED suffers losses in business. Most TFT-LCD manufactures have finished amortization of old production lines. LTPS TFT is controlled by a few large-sized TFT-LCD manufactures; therefore their attitude towards OLED is a key for development of OLED. Unless they have a full command of OLED production techniques, they will not involve in OLED production. In consequence, OLED is currently controlled by few giants such as Samsung; which is unfavorable for OELD industry.

OLED must break away from LTPS TFT substrate, and also improve resolution for competing with traditional TFT-LCD. With the same size, resolution of OLED is much weaker than that of TFT-LCD. Therefore, OLED fits for large-sized screen (above 3 inches), yet, the bigger size is, the more cost will be.

SMD monopolizes the small-sized OLED market; therefore other producers try to develop large-sized OLED market, but LTPS technology is not suitably employed to large-sized OLED. Even LTPS technology gets improved even high up to sixth generation or seventh generation, it is still rather poor in cost efficiency.

SMD controls most resources, so OLED display market is also dominated by Samsung. Small-sized AM OLED will not see greater development in the future. As a mobile phone producer Samsung doesn't possess upstream resources of AM OLED. Due to higher cost of OLED, it is forecasted that mobile phone with OLED display will just account for 5% market share.

Sony 11-inch and LG 15-inch OLED TV have been commercialized, but their prices are extremely high due to their low rate of finished products (below 30%); while rate of TFT-LCD finished products can reach above 99%. Just a few TFT-LCD giants can produce OLED TV sets. However, they will not be completely involved in OLED TV production until they take back all investment.

At present, only TOKKI and ULVAC produce OLED equipments. TOKKI is an important one, its largest glass substrate size is 370mm*470mm. DuPont, BASF and IDEMITSU KOSAN are the key producers of luminescent materials, but these chemical giants are not interested in this market, just 1% of TFT-LCD market.

75% cost of TFT-LCD originates from raw materials, while cost of OLED on raw materials just accounts for less than 25%. TFT-LCD has had no means to reduce cost efficiently today; once the rate of finished OLED products improves to 70%, there will be no room for TFT-LCD in the future. Therefore, OLED industry has a bright future.

Video clip of Samsung demonstrating how tough it's flexible OLED is, by beating on it with a hammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k&feature=player_embedded

Haha..that was great!:D In the future you cant destroy your television when you get mad at it.

Is this product commercial already?

All together now: iPhone 4G!

This article states that Samsung Mobile Displays is planning on spending $1.7 billion in capex for AMOLED's in 2010.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/10/123_53899.html

The size of the investment leads me to believe that they are moving up the ladder in terms of substrate size. Their current production is in a Gen 4 equivalent fab (which cost far less than $1.7 billion), but I think it is possible that they could be planning on building either a Gen 5 or Gen 6 fab.

If so, this is the kind of announcement that means that we really are getting closer to TV sized OLED's at a semi-reasonable price. I believe that Gen 6 LCD fabs brought 32" LCD's into the mainstream.

Just speculation though...it is possible that all of this money is destined for capacity destined for the portable segment.

Slacker

So 38,000 hours is about 4 years 4 months if you keep it on 24 hours a day.

Of course people aren't going to do that but will it maintain the same brightness as when brand new for 4 years, through all the on/off cycles?

Or will it degrade as it approaches the end of life for blue?

LOL! 38,000 hours would last me 21 years! :eek:

LOL! 38,000 hours would last me 21 years! :eek:

28 years here!:D

I figure by the time I'm ready to replace my Pio plasma (not anytime soon!) OLED should have matured a bit and be very affordable.

Oled's are going to completely massacre LCD's & Plasmas!

It won't happen now but in the next few years approaching year 2020, this could happen (especially when manufacturing improves, costs start to drop, size availability increases and when lifespan improves).

Either way, it should be interesting :)

http://www.oled-display.net/images/amoled/oledtv-auo.jpg

Auo show Innovative Display Technologies at FPD Intl 2009
Presenting new 3-Dimensional Display and a 14 inch OLED TV panel with Full HD resolution.
The 14" OLED TV panel with FHD resolution, a 100,000:1 contrast ratio, and 16 million colors.

[Via OLED-Display.net (http://www.oled-display.net/auo-to-show-14-oled-tv-panel-at-fpd-2009)]

IGNIS demonstrates breakthroughs in AMOLED backplane technology (http://www.oled-display.net/ignis-demonstrates-breakthroughs-in-amoled-backplane-technology)
27 October 2009

IGNIS Innovation Inc., a world leader in the design and development of thin film transistor circuits and driver algorithms for AMOLED, will demonstrate important breakthroughs in the field of AMOLED image compensation technology at its booth at the FPD International Exhibition in Pacifico Yokohama from 28th ~ 30th October 2009.

In partnership with Kodak and Prime View International, Inc, (PVI), IGNIS has developed a 5” segment of a 32” 1080p HDTV AMOLED display using industry standard amorphous silicon thin film transistors. This prototype uses IGNIS’ MaxLife solution, which compensates separately for both the TFT and OLED degradation using only an electrical feedback – an industry first. No unreliable optical sensors are used which have been tried unsuccessfully in the past by others. The MaxLife(TM) prototype has an operating device lifetime of 20 years when watching for 12hrs/day, even under the most demanding TV content conditions, including subtitles and station logos. Additionally, there is no image burn-in over this time since the MaxLife technology keeps differential aging to 3% or less, which is imperceptible to the human eye. The MaxLife(TM) prototype was built using an amorphous silicon backplane from PVI using their standard a-Si LCD mass production process while the frontplane uses Kodak’s long life and low power RGBW technology that delivers a vivid and outstanding viewing experience. The combination of both the amorphous silicon backplane together with the RGBW technology provide for the first time a reliable, low cost and truly scalable architecture that can finally push AMOLED into the mainstream class of TV sizes that consumers demand and expect.

For portable displays, IGNIS will exhibit a high resolution 2.2” QVGA (181ppi) demo of its AdMo(TM) (Advanced Mobile) compensation platform. In extensive in-house lifetime testing, IGNIS has demonstrated device lifetimes of over 50,000hrs , making them suitable for any mobile or handheld application, such as smartphones and A/V players. In addition, AdMo(TM) displays have been proven to operate over a large temperature range, from -30C to 80C, which is suitable for automotive applications. The sophisticated compensation technology is built entirely in-pixel, meaning low-cost driver ICs are used, lending itself to a simple ‘drop-in’ display that is easily swappable into devices using legacy LCDs. The AdMoTM prototype use an amorphous silicon backplane, the standard TFT of the LCD industry that has traditionally been regarded as unusable for AMOLED displays. However, through its patented technology IGNIS is able compensate for the low mobility and instabilities of amorphous silicon, and as a result, for no additional capital investment costs, enables the manufacture of AMOLED backplanes at existing TFT plants.

“The growth of the AMOLED industry has been constrained due to the technological hurdles associated with achieving a truly reliable, uniform and scalable TFT backplane. With our MaxLife(TM) & AdMo(TM) platforms, this is now possible, and we expect will enable our customers, the display manufacturers, to accelerate the introduction of visually stunning and affordable AMOLED displays to the market in the very near future.” said Paul Arsenault, President and CEO of IGNIS.

“Traditional approaches to OLED compensation has been to use photodiodes, however these are both unreliable and expensive. IGNIS’ electrical feedback solution used in our MaxLife(TM) platform eliminates these problems and represents a major breakthrough. On the other hand, the sophistication of the AdMo(TM) circuit solution means that a simple driver IC can be used and this is essential for maintaining the cost saving promise of AMOLED in handhelds” added Corbin Church, Vice President. “Both demo platforms that we will be showing use an amorphous silicon backplane, which can easily scale up to Generation 10 size while enjoying high reliability and low manufacturing unit costs.”

Plasma in trouble!

That OLED technology is using an all white oled light source that has to go thru a color filter. It is using the Kodak RGBW technology, so the color gamut won't be high.


They haven't solved the differential aging problem if a display uses Red, Green, and Blue organic materials.

They haven't solved the differential aging problem if a display uses Red, Green, and Blue organic materials, yet.

Now it's correct. :D

bye
Benny

Samsung's 30-inch 3D AMOLED TV won't make you dizzy (http://www.samsung.co.kr/article.do?cmd=view&numb=1&curPage=1&searchCategory=1&contentId=124740&searchCompany=-1)
2009-10-28

3D TV without dizziness

http://www.samsung.co.kr/UserFiles/Image/091028_h_smd_01.jpg
"Getting rid of dizziness that had 3D TV"

Samsung mobile display (ganghomun president), the world's first Full HD grade dizziness removed 30 inches AMOLED 3D (stereoscopic) TV said it had developed 27 days.

This product 'luminous' AMOLED do not need a backlight to the characteristics of a 30-inch large screen size, but the panel thickness is 2.5mm thin (超博形) 2 Ahead of the 100-won coin thin.

http://www.samsung.co.kr/UserFiles/Image/091028_h_smd_02.jpg

Samsung mobile display developed a unique patented SEAV (Simultaneous Emission with Active Voltage: simultaneous light-driven), techniques applied in 3D TV Crosstalk (Crosstalk: left and right images overlap) to eliminate symptoms completely eliminates eye fatigue and dizziness has succeeded in reducing significantly.

3D TV a real dimension of the principle of polarized glasses to try to alternate between left and right eye images will make a difference to deliver an optical illusion, cross-Sat Kranjcar 3D TV watching to the left eye and right eye images show each other seen as overlapping symptoms, dizziness dropping a given dimension in 3D TV commercial has been pointed out as one of the biggest issues.

Original TV (CRT, LCD, PDP) consisting of the pixels along the horizontal lines from top to bottom of the screen is switched sequentially driven Being polarized glasses with the left and right 3D implementation of structural variation was limited.

The response time of LCD, the LCD left and right images because the conversion rate to keep up with brilliant 3D implementation was impossible.

Full HD, but the level of 30 inches AMOLED 3D TV at the same time running a full screen if the "SEAV (simultaneous light-driven)," Technology that essentially eliminates crosstalk has implemented more vivid 3D images.

In addition, the illusion of 3D TV to take effect for a 2D TV screen brightness to remove the disadvantages which falls over, AMOLED the device (素子) the amount of current flowing through a fine screen brightness can be controlled by the structural advantages that the problem was resolved.

SS Kim, vice president of Samsung mobile display (Research Institute), the "AMOLED viewers with 3D stereoscopic images sharper than they actually enjoy the feeling of the experience will be like," said "that will lead the next generation AMOLED TV technology," he said.

The developed world's first Full HD level 30 inches AMOLED 3D TV is coming October 28 to 30 held in Yokohama, Japan on display at the FPD International 2009 in general will be released first.

also found on EngadgetHD (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/10/28/samsungs-30-inch-3d-amoled-tv-wont-make-you-dizzy-will-leave/)

Oled's are going to completely massacre LCD's & Plasmas!


OLED is so NOT HAPPENING for the middle class, it is pathetic.

OLED is so NOT HAPPENING for the middle class, it is pathetic.

It's already happening. In cell phones, PDAs and other small screen devices. By the millions.

....They haven't solved the differential aging problem if a display uses Red, Green, and Blue organic materials.

They don't have to get them to age at the same rate. They only need them to age at a predictable rate, and can compensate. Lifetimes seem to be adequate now. Looks like they're almost ready to start scaling up for mass production of larger sizes.

Plasma in trouble!

LCD is likely in more trouble than plasma when OLED comes to market and is what it's reported to be. It will move into the small panel market first and then expand as it matures. LCD owns the small panel and computer panel market and that's likely OLED's first splash.

LCD is likely in more trouble than plasma when OLED comes to market and is what it's reported to be. It will move into the small panel market first and then expand as it matures. LCD owns the small panel and computer panel market and that's likely OLED's first splash.

Absolutely. OLED will move from small sizes to big sizes. Smartphones first, then laptops, later on computer monitors... Like LCD did.

Plasma killer, if any, will be LCD, not OLED.

Samsung is usually a little optomistic with their future projections so you may need to add a couple of years to this.

http://www.i4u.com/article27989.html

4-5 years to reach 40-50 inch sizes or 4-5 years before 40-50 inch OLED TVs are price-competitive with LCD TVs of that size?

If the former, then they might as well not bother because how much longer to bring down prices to under $1500?

[FPDI] AUO Ready to Roll 14-inch Full-HD OLED Panel (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177121/)
Oct 30, 2009 10:26 Shinya Saeki, Nikkei Electronics

AUO's 14-inch full-HD OLED panel

AU Optronics Corp (AUO) of Taiwan developed a 14-inch OLED panel with a pixel count of 1,920 x 1,080 (full HD) and a resolution of 157ppi and exhibited it at FPD International 2009.

"Technically, we can now start volume production of it," the company said. "If there is user demand for it, we will do that."

For the driver elements of the panel, AUO employed a low-temperature polycrystal Si-TFT (LTPS). Two transistors and one capacitor (2T1C) are used for each pixel.

The panel is a bottom emission type. Organic electroluminescent (EL) materials for RGB colors are applied by an evaporation method using a metal stencil mask.

The maximum screen luminance with an all-white signal is 200cd/m2. The contrast ratio of the panel is 100,000:1. It is capable of displaying 16 million colors and 72% of the NTSC color gamut. It supports a drive frequency of 120Hz.

[FPDI] LG Display Plans to Release 40-inch OLED Panel in 2012 (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177155/)
Oct 30, 2009 17:38 Shinya Saeki, Nikkei Electronics

LG Display Co Ltd announced its roadmap for developing and releasing large-size OLED panels at FPD International 2009, which takes place from Oct 28 to 30, 2009, at Pacifico Yokohama, Yokohama City, Japan.

Won Kim, LG Display's OLED sales and marketing VP, took the podium.

LG Electronics Inc plans to release a 15-inch OLED TV with a panel developed by LG Display at the end of 2009. The panel has a pixel count of 1,366 x 768 and a resolution of 105ppi. Its maximum screen luminance with an all-white signal and an all-black signal are 200cd/m2 and 0.01cd/m2, respectively. The peak luminance is 450cd/m2.

The panel is a bottom emission type and uses low-temperature polycrystal Si-TFTs that are crystallized by a high-temperature process (solid phase crystallization or SPC) as driver elements. Those specifications were announced at IMID 2009, a trade show that took place in October 2009 in Korea.

After the 15-inch panel, LG Display plans to release 20-inch and larger OLED panels in 2010, 30-inch and larger panels in 2011 and 40-inch and larger panels in 2012.

"Forty-inch and larger OLED panels will be fairly expensive in 2012, but they will be available in the market," Kim said.

'OLED panels will cost less than LCD panels in 2016'

In regard to technical challenges to stably supplying large-size OLED panels at low cost, Kim mentioned (1) driver elements (TFTs), (2) organic EL materials and film forming processes and (3) sealing processes.

Driver element

As for driver elements, LG Display will probably employ a TFT based on a low-temperature polycrystal silicon (and SPC method) or an oxide semiconductor such as IGZO (In-Ga-Zn-O), he said. However, he also said that TFTs based on those materials have some problems.

"We will be able to use a low-temperature polycrystal silicon with the sixth-generation size glass substrate," Kim said. "However, for 40-inch and larger panels, we have to use the eighth-generation size glass substrate. Therefore, we have to develop equipment that can deal with an SPC process at a temperature of more than 700°C."

As for oxide semiconductor, he said that it is one of the candidate materials to be used for large panels. But it has low reproducibility because of variation among lots, he said.

Organic EL material / Sealing process

LG Display plans to use fluorescent materials until 2011 and phosphorescent materials thereafter. Also, as film forming processes, the company is considering using printing technologies, starting from an evaporation method with a metal stencil mask.

"In regard to sealing process, we believe that solid sealing is desirable for TV panels," Kim said.

With those measures, LG Display aims to achieve a 50% higher material cost and a 30% lower yield than those of LCD panels in 2012 and a 20-30% lower material cost and an equivalent yield in 2016.

At the exhibition site, the company exhibited the 15-inch OLED display, which was unveiled at IMID 2009, for the first time in Japan.

My family room Feb-2005 Sony 42" 720p better hold up until 2016 (11 years old then....).
I'm tired of being frontline and paying for all the upfront R&D/D&D that is amortized on the early units. Been there, done it too many times.

btw, the pict on that is still sweet 5 years later......no problems.

[FPDI] AUO Ready to Roll 14-inch Full-HD OLED Panel (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177121/)
Oct 30, 2009 10:26 Shinya Saeki, Nikkei Electronics
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177121/1.JPG

[FPDI] LG Display Plans to Release 40-inch OLED Panel in 2012 (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177155/)
Oct 30, 2009 17:38 Shinya Saeki, Nikkei Electronics
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177155/3.JPG

I'm excited to see and possibly purchase either the 15" or 20" LG OLED next year! Progress is being made... just takes a while.

The biggest bit of info I found interesting was that LG seems to think that OLED TVs will reach the same price points of LCDs in 6 years. I would imagine in that time the price of LCD HDTVs would continue to drop (depending upon inflation). Fun stuff! :D

4-5 years to reach 40-50 inch sizes or 4-5 years before 40-50 inch OLED TVs are price-competitive with LCD TVs of that size?

If the former, then they might as well not bother because how much longer to bring down prices to under $1500?

The challenge for OLED is that LCD/Plasma keep getting better and cheaper. In 4-5 years, today's $1500 TV will be well under $1000 with many improvements.

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The biggest bit of info I found interesting was that LG seems to think that OLED TVs will reach the same price points of LCDs in 6 years. I would imagine in that time the price of LCD HDTVs would continue to drop (depending upon inflation). Fun stuff! :DLG make LCD TVs, so they would be aware of what LC prices they are expecting in 6 years. Once the OLEDs get past the development problems, they should be cheaper to produce than the same size LCD.

Sony & Samsung have been pretty quiet about real TV products. Maybe they are saving big guns for CES? Something between 24-30" would be more than enough for desktop usage.

CMEL OLED Supplier:neowindows.com. good goods for your money.

Oooh... looks like they make a 4.3" OLED display with a resolution of 480x272... perhaps this item could be used to replace the LCD found in the PSP X000 series! Or perhaps Sony will release a PSP with this OLED screen... the PSP-4000 series! Whoa! :)

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Hmm... doesn't look like a drop in replacment though... :o

I'm hoping they're going to make some nice OLED digital picture frames. I bought an LCD digital picture frame a few years ago and really didn't look all that great.

Oooh... looks like they make a 4.3" OLED display with a resolution of 480x272... perhaps this item could be used to replace the LCD found in the PSP X000 series! Or perhaps Sony will release a PSP with this OLED screen... the PSP-4000 series! Whoa! :)

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Hmm... doesn't look like a drop in replacment though... :o

That would be cool. If Sony did this I would upgrade instantly.

For now I have the GP2X Wiz that has an OLED screen. It is only good for old PC ports (Doom, Quake) and emulators (SNES, Genesis, NeoGeo etc) and not any newer games but is still good to get your OLED gaming fix.

Already have one device with OLED screen. The picture is awesome. I can not wait for these things to become mainstream.

Don't know if this has been posted.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/05/08/panasonic-oled-40-inch-tv-by-2010/

OLED is not going to be main stream for many years 2016 if we are lucky. I can't imagine replacing my 50 or 58 plasma with OLED until then or later. I just don't see the cost coming down to what the average consumer is willing to pay until then or some time after. The first plasma I seen was a Marantz 42in way back in 98 and is was 15K. And I just bought my first plasma in 2008. I really don't see OLED doing much until 2016. We are all spoiled with are 50+ tv's and when OLED gets down to 2K for 50+ then maybe people will start buying and replacing their current lcd's and plasmas.

Don't know if this has been posted.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/05/08/panasonic-oled-40-inch-tv-by-2010/

3D oled tv from Panasonic, 40"? Wow...I wonder what that would look like.

3D oled tv from Panasonic, 40"? Wow...I wonder what that would look like.

Holy crap, they're already planning a huge size OLED set by next year??? Wow that's fast.

Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see if they can deliver (but I hope they do).

Speaking of which, has anyone heard of the news regarding a proposal for a 40 inch OLED TV that only consumes 40 watts (@ 1 watt per inch)???

Does anyone remember the news article on that?

OLED is not going to be main stream for many years 2016 if we are lucky. I can't imagine replacing my 50 or 58 plasma with OLED until then or later. I just don't see the cost coming down to what the average consumer is willing to pay until then or some time after. The first plasma I seen was a Marantz 42in way back in 98 and is was 15K. And I just bought my first plasma in 2008. I really don't see OLED doing much until 2016. We are all spoiled with are 50+ tv's and when OLED gets down to 2K for 50+ then maybe people will start buying and replacing their current lcd's and plasmas.

Technology growth isn't always linear. When flat panel TVs first came out, they had more problems to tackle than they do now. Now, we just need to overcome a few hurdles, and the plants that are required to make OLEDs are already in place.

powertoold, I wish they would give us some idea what the starting price was going to be on the 40in OLED coming out. I'm debating buying a new plasma 63 sammy or 65 panny for my bedroom. If I thought OLED would hit 2-3K in the next 3 years for 50+ I would just buy a entry level sammy/panny Plasma or a LG 55LH90 to get my by until then.

powertoold, I wish they would give us some idea what the starting price was going to be on the 40in OLED coming out.

That would be nice.

LG Display debut the 15 inch OLED-Tv in Korea this week for $2,500 USD (http://www.oled-display.net/lg-display-debut-the-15-inch-oled-tv-in-korea-this-week-for-2500-dollar)
11/09/2009

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LG Display roll out the 15-inch OLED-Television device this week in Korea. This 15-inch panel is the largest commercial available OLED Display.
LG Display sell the 15-inch Panel in South Korea for 3 million won per unit that are about 2,500- Dollar[s].

LG electronics plans also like Samsung mobile display (http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-mobile-display-want-to-build-a-new-fabrication-line-for-30-inch-oled-tvs)to build a new fabrication line. The 5.5 generation line can be installed in Paju in the first half of 2011.

They can roll out 40,000 sheets per months.
LG Display will invest more in organic displays. But the timing is dependent on how the market finds an uprising momentum," an LG Display spokesman said. LG Display is currently led by CEO Kwon Young-soo.

Source: Korea Times (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/11/123_55157.html)

wow! that's not a good sign for us 50+ crowed I cant see it reaching decent price until 2016. I think I will go ahead and buy a nice panny 65v10 since I cant see OLED Coming into is own until 4+ years if we are lucky.

wow! that's not a good sign for us 50+ crowed I cant see it reaching decent price until 2016. I think I will go ahead and buy a nice panny 65v10 since I cant see OLED Coming into is own until 4+ years if we are lucky.


Confucius says:
The bigger you buy now the longer you'll have to wait for OLED as you won't step down in size.

wow! that's not a good sign for us 50+ crowed I cant see it reaching decent price until 2016. I think I will go ahead and buy a nice panny 65v10 since I cant see OLED Coming into is own until 4+ years if we are lucky.

The premise of your post is quite naive! Were you actually expecting to hold out for a year or two and purchase a 50+" OLED HDTV for a relatively reasonable price? :eek: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're being sarcastic. ;)

We're within a year or so of decent sized computer monitors... getting closer!

The "crowed"... off went a pack of crows...

Confucius says:
The bigger you buy now the longer you'll have to wait for OLED as you won't step down in size.

Lotta truth in that.

Confucius says:
The bigger you buy now the longer you'll have to wait for OLED as you won't step down in size.

LOL... Good one Benny! :cool:

LG Display debut the 15 inch OLED-Tv in Korea this week for $2,500 USD (http://www.oled-display.net/lg-display-debut-the-15-inch-oled-tv-in-korea-this-week-for-2500-dollar)
11/09/2009

LG Display roll out the 15-inch OLED-Television device this week in Korea. This 15-inch panel is the largest commercial available OLED Display.
LG Display sell the 15-inch Panel in South Korea for 3 million won per unit that are about 2,500- Dollar[s].

LG electronics plans also like Samsung mobile display (http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-mobile-display-want-to-build-a-new-fabrication-line-for-30-inch-oled-tvs)to build a new fabrication line. The 5.5 generation line can be installed in Paju in the first half of 2011.

They can roll out 40,000 sheets per months.
LG Display will invest more in organic displays. But the timing is dependent on how the market finds an uprising momentum," an LG Display spokesman said. LG Display is currently led by CEO Kwon Young-soo.

Source: Korea Times (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/11/123_55157.html)

15" ?

That is small even for laptop screens these days. Still better than the Sony, higher resolution slightly bigger and the same price.

I wonder if it has a VGA input?

13-15" is perfectly fine for a portable laptop, or are you talking about those silly desktop replacement monsters? The LG OLED doesn't have VGA input.

Looks like Sony might be releasing new OLED TVs under the KDL-ZX Series name.... unless this image is a hoax... or the proposal falls through :( :( :(
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If OLED is that much better than our current LED and Plasma will it show us how crappy our video sources truly are from our sat/cable and could it make blue ray look worse than it currently does on todays t.v's. Kinda like back in the day when I bought my first big screen and it showed how crappy everything was by showing every flaw in the video source (crap in crap out).

Well if Blu Ray looked worse, it would still be better than anything else out there or the digital streaming/downloads which are suppose to take over.

So they shouldn't try to improve display tech. because video sources are going to be more constricted (like digital audio has become)?

If OLED is that much better than our current LED and Plasma will it show us how crappy our video sources truly are from our sat/cable and could it make blue ray look worse than it currently does on todays t.v's. Kinda like back in the day when I bought my first big screen and it showed how crappy everything was by showing every flaw in the video source (crap in crap out).

Well... Like I've stated before, watch a Sony XEL-1 for at least 5 minutes. For a 2 year old product, I'm still stunned by its incredible picture quality, regardless of source material. I think the analogy of SD RPTVs is a bit of a stretch, as OLED displays won't out grow modern source content (HDTV broadcasts, Blu-ray, HD gaming, ect) in terms of visible screen size for quite some time.

The XEL-1 has incredible contrast, perfect black level, rich color, and silky smooth motion without the use of frame interpolation (like a non-interlaced CRT). Hence, OLED displays allow the user to see sources in a better light (pun intended), and are not analogous to old RPTVs... :rolleyes:

wco81 and rgb32, I agree with you, i'm sure it will look good with blue-ray and HD. I suppose I was just thinking how directv and Dish network and most cable companies are compressing most video they have now just to get by. I'm worried that most the SD material will not look good on a OLED. If I watch SD material/dvd I prefer to go back to my old 55 rptv, I think it pulls it off better than my Plasma. I bought my first HDTV in 1999 and it was horrible, HD material was very limited to few shows a week. It took 2-3 years to feel like it was worth while owning a hdtv. wco81, I'm not saying they shouldn't improve display tech, I just think most HD out there is crap HD to be honest it looks ok at best. Excluding blue ray most hd is not that good, one of the few channels that looks good most of the time is Food Network. I don't know what they do but most of the material they have looks excellent to very good. When the other channels look good like they do on a daily basis then I feel OLED would be worth it.

one of the few channels that looks good most of the time is Food Network. I don't know what they do but most of the material they have looks excellent to very good.
The food is not moving very fast by the time it gets to the Food Network. Lack of motion artifacts and subchannels broadcasting local weather, etc.

Food Network stretches - A LOT.

my point about Food Network was strictly with the colors and how well most of their new footage they shoot looks very accurate and detailed. It shows off how well todays technology can look. A lot of other HD channels look washed out and just plain suck. My point with OLED is it will show every flaw in the video source much more than PLASMA AND LED/LCD but it will also show off how well it can be when it has a good video source to bad most video sources are not that good.

The food is not moving very fast by the time it gets to the Food Network.

lol

my point about Food Network was strictly with the colors and how well most of their new footage they shoot looks very accurate and detailed. It shows off how well todays technology can look. A lot of other HD channels look washed out and just plain suck. My point with OLED is it will show every flaw in the video source much more than PLASMA AND LED/LCD but it will also show off how well it can be when it has a good video source to bad most video sources are not that good.

Don't know Food Network since I'm from Spain. Nevertheless, the big difference in PQ is always the type of content that is being broadcasted. A news broadcast looks way better than a soccer match, or an action movie since it's using the same bitrate to encode just the face of a guy speaking.

Some new info on Sony's OLED panels and CES

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And_Large_Display/OLED_TV/M8S5Q6T9

Some new info on Sony's OLED panels and CES

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And_Large_Display/OLED_TV/M8S5Q6T9

Looks interesting. If Sony will release a 27" 1080p OLED HDTV, it would make an awesome computer monitor!

Perhaps the two models (per the article) to be shown at CES 2010 will be the 21" and the 27". I'm thinking that the 27" will retail for atleast $4,000.... gulp... :D

for those knowing market trends,

will the debut and increased revenue of these first oled TVs exponentiate oled's time to market.
in development for 20-30 years, as they say but how is future growth predicted at this point.

LG Display and Samsung Mobile show transparent OLEDs (http://www.slashgear.com/lg-display-and-samsung-mobile-show-transparent-oleds-2862005/)
28 October 2009


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The actual benefits of transparent displays are yet to be explained – beyond the sheer cool factor, of course – but that isn’t stopping manufacturers from announcing them. Both LG Display and Samsung Mobile Display have been flaunting their respective transparent OLEDs, the former having a full 15-inch OLED panel ideal for notebooks, while the latter has a 2-inch OLED panel intended for cellphones.


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Each replaces what would usually be the black portion of the display with transparency instead. Where OLED displays usually emit light either from the positive or negative electrodes – e.g. viewable from a single side – these new panels emit light from both electrodes simultaneously, and are encapsulated in a transparent sheath.

Transmittance for both is 30-percent; it’s unclear what resolution the LG Display OLED is running at, but the Samsung Mobile Display OLED offers 176 x 220 with 144ppi. No word from either company as to when we might see commercial releases of the transparent OLEDs.

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AUO 14-inch OLED production imminent; LG Display 40-inch AMOLED in 2012 (http://www.slashgear.com/auo-14-inch-oled-production-imminent-lg-display-40-inch-amoled-in-2012-3062294/)
30 October 2009


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Could we soon be looking at large(ish) scale, reasonably priced OLED and AMOLED displays? Probably not, at least when it comes to the pricing part, but both LG Display and AUO have announced mass production plans for their OLED and AMOLED panels, LG expecting to kick-start production in 2011 (http://english.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=200910230003) while AUO claims to be ready to start now (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177121/).

The AUO plant will be pumping out 14-inch OLED displays, running at Full HD resolution and 157ppi density. Each display boasts a 100,000:1 contrast ratio and 200cd/m2 brightness, and is capable of 16m colors. They cover 72-percent of the NTSC color gamut and run at 120Hz. No news on whether AUO are positioning the OLEDs for TV or laptop use, but we’d quite like to whip out an OLED ultraportable in our local Starbucks.

As for LG Display, they’re planning to begin AMOLED mass production at their new 5G plant in the second half of 2011. The company will produce 30-inch and above displays in 2011, before shifting to 40-inch AMOLED production in 2012 (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20091030/177155/).

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Sony's 2010/2011 OLED and flagship XBR series LCD roadmap leaked? (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/sonys-2010-2011-oled-tv-and-flagship-xbr-series-leaked/)
13 November 2009


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Ready to dig deep, really deep, for a tiny but magnificent OLED television? You'd better be 'cause some purportedly leaked Sony documents are showing a new "KDL-ZX Series OLED" on the 2010 / 2011 roadmap. All the sets are listed as prototypes so they may or may not make it to market for retail. But with Sony's two year old, 11-inch XEL-1 OLED TV now dwarfed by LG's new 15-inch OLED TV and a 20-incher promised for 2010, well, we expect Sony will want to regain its leadership in the new year. The docs also show updates to Sony's flagship XBR series with the XBR11 LED W-backlit LCD and XBR12 Advanced LED RGB-backlit LCD sets coming in sizes from 32- to 60-inches featuring 240Hz Motionflow, a new Bravia Engine 3 PRO with HD Video processor, and UV2A panel technology. Unfortunately, some of the XBR information (the most important, presumably) is blacked-out and we're only looking at 2 of what appear to be 24 pages of leaked content. Boy would we love to peak behind that curtain. XBR11 spec sheet on display after the break.


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http://www.hdtvlounge.net/wp-content/uploads/Sony_New_HDTVs.jpg


Source: hdtvlounge.net (http://www.hdtvlounge.net/sony/xbr11-xbr12-oled/)

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New Cost-efficient production process for OLEDs with micro-scale conductor paths (http://www.oled-display.net/new-cost-efficient-production-process-for-oleds-with-micro-scale-conductor-paths)
17 November, 2009


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In cooperation with Philips, the Fraunhofer Institute for Laser Technology ILT is developing an innovative, cost-efficient process for applying conductor paths to OLEDs.

Organic light-emitting diodes are highly efficient light sources based on organic materials. They achieve high luminous intensity while consuming little energy. OLEDs consist of one or several active organic layers which are energized by two large-area electrodes. The initiated current flow leads to electron-hole recombinations in the organic layer. This produces photons which radiate into the half-space through the conductive, transparent anode – consisting of indium tin oxide (ITO) or similar materials. To distribute the electrical energy evenly over the entire surface of the OLEDs, metallic conductor paths are applied to the ITO layer. The size of the conductor paths plays an important role here: if they are too wide the paths can affect the luminous homogeneity of the light source. In addition to reducing manufacturing costs for OLEDs, the lighting industry is also very keen to produce tiny geometries. A process is required with which narrow metallic conductor paths can be produced efficiently, resulting in savings of energy and resources.

The Fraunhofer ILT is now developing a laser technique to apply micro-scale conductor paths for the industrial partner Philips. A mask foil is placed on the surface of the conductor which represents the negative to the conductor path geometry later required. This is then covered by a donor foil whose material will constitute the conductor path, for example aluminum or copper. The assembly is fixed in place and hit with laser radiation traveling at a speed of up to 2.5 m/s along the mask geometry. A mixture of melt drops and vapor forms, which is transferred from the donor foil to the substrate. The solidified mixture produces the conductor path, whose geometry is determined by the mask. As the process takes place in the ambient atmosphere an expensive process chamber is not required. There is no material loss because the residual material of the donor foil can be re-used.


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“This enables us to produce narrow metallic paths with adjustable widths between 40 and 100 µm. They exhibit variable thicknesses between 3 and 15 µm and a resistance of < 0.05 W/sq, so that the electrons are distributed optimally over the entire surface. Our aim is to produce homogeneous luminosity over the entire surface with the new technique,” explains Christian Vedder, who is in charge of the project at the Fraunhofer ILT. This manufacturing process also adds greater flexibility in how the layer is configured. Holger Schwab, Project Manager OLED Lighting at Philips, regards cost-efficiency as the main advantage to be gained from the additive laser technique: “This process can considerably reduce the cost of producing OLEDs. The key factors are that almost 100% of the material is utilized and no structuring processes are needed.”

Conductor paths are used wherever electrical energy needs to be conducted over non-conductive surfaces made of glass, silicon or other materials. Further applications derive from the innovative process, including heated windows in cars and other vehicles as well the production of semiconductors for use in solar cells. Considerable demand exists in these sectors for micro-scale conductor paths because wide conductor paths restrict vision in motor vehicles and cause shading which reduces the efficiency of photovoltaic systems.

The actual benefits of transparent displays are yet to be explained – beyond the sheer cool factor, of course – but that isn’t stopping manufacturers from announcing them. Both LG Display and Samsung Mobile Display have been flaunting their respective transparent OLEDs, the former having a full 15-inch OLED panel ideal for notebooks, while the latter has a 2-inch OLED panel intended for cellphones.

C'mon. It's pretty obvious that you can put a transparent OLED layer over a eInk display to get the ultimate handheld device.

If it is not THAT obvious let me check out the patent office because I'm gonna be rich :)

C'mon. It's pretty obvious that you can put a transparent OLED layer over a eInk display to get the ultimate handheld device.

If it is not THAT obvious let me check out the patent office because I'm gonna be rich :)

What about a contact lens display? contact-lenses-to-get-builtin-virtual-graphics (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18146-contact-lenses-to-get-builtin-virtual-graphics.html)

Sony KDL-ZX 27 (http://www.oled-display.net/sony-kdl-zx-27-inch-oled-tv) inch OLED TV to be released at CES 2010

If this is true then this will be the biggest OLED (http://oled-tv.asia/) display that'll be available in the market. I'm sure it'll come with an extremely expensive price tag. I read in CNET that OLED TVs will be affordable in 2010. I hope this is true, my plasma is starting to give up on me.

OLED is much better than current LCD and Plasma when it comes to colors. Resolution is still the same, so I don't understand why it would make Bluray or Cable Tv image worse ?

When HDTVs first came out, especially in large sizes, they made everything nonHD look bad because of the Resolution differences.

Bluray will look fantastic on OLED, and Cable and Sat will still be compressed Crap.

If OLED is that much better than our current LED and Plasma will it show us how crappy our video sources truly are from our sat/cable and could it make blue ray look worse than it currently does on todays t.v's. Kinda like back in the day when I bought my first big screen and it showed how crappy everything was by showing every flaw in the video source (crap in crap out).

Are OLED-TVs on Track? (http://displaydaily.com/2009/11/10/are-oled-tvs-on-track/)
10 Novembr 2009

Question: When is a 15-inch diagonal size considered a legitimate TV? Simple, when you add the four letters O L E D in front. In fact, Sony has done this for a couple of years now with its 11-inch XEL-1 "OLED-TV" and, at 3mm, it is considered the world’s "thinnest" TV in production. It is also the most expensive consumer TV (OK under 85-inches) on a per-inch basis, with a selling price of $2,499 or $227/inch.)

Back in January at CES, LG showed its version of the mini-giant in a 15-inch package and gained the distinction to be the first native HD OLED-TV with a resolution of 1366 x 768 (the Sony is only 960 x 540 pixels.) Now LG is making good on their promise of delivering the 15-inch display in 2009 by announcing it is shipping (in Korea only) and claiming the world’s thinnest TV in production title with a new 1.7mm thin display-cutting the old record almost in half. That thickness level has grown from the 0.8mm prototype 15-inch panel shown at CES, by the way. Other specs on this display technology for the next decade include 100K:1 contrast and a 3M Korean Won ($2580) price tag that lets Sony keep the highest price per inch crown in the consumer category. (Truth be told, Panny actually holds the title with its $53K 103-inch behemoth that originally sold for $70K, a whopping $680/inch.)

At CES we learned the LG prototype panel was driven at 120Hz, and while watching an LG engineer make some adjustments, we noticed some signal noise that suggested the panel was being driven by two sets of vertical drivers (left and right). LG said the plan at the time was to manufacture the panels in mass production at Fab line 1 in Gumi, Korea. The engineer (wanting to go unnamed at the show) told us they would be in production "for sure" by the second half of 2009 and it looks like he was spot-on with that prediction.

In fact, OLED manufacturing is gaining traction in Korea, even while some Japanese manufacturers are dropping out. OLED-info.com recently reported that Samsung is mulling a Gen 5.5 OLED production line capable of delivering 1320mm x 1500mm (about 52- x 60-inch) substrates, which can be used to efficiently produce 30-inch OLED-TVs. This would require a total investment of $1.3B from the Samsung Mobile Display - the group who popularized small and medium sized OLED panels in digital cameras, cell phones and other mobile devices.

There was also a report that "several Korean firms" including Samsung, LG and "others" signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to develop OLED manufacturing equipment to produce large-sized AMOLED panels. The group is looking to usurp Japan as the major supplier of the tools to manufacture the next generation OLED panels-particularly targeting domestic Korea production. The news came on top of a May-09 agreement between Samsung and LG to develop such equipment, as reported by Chosun Ilbo.

But one Japan manufacturer, Kyocera, is moving the other way. The company recently reported closing down their OLED subsidiary that was working with UDC to manufacturer PHOLED panels for cell phones and other smaller mobile devices.

Perhaps above all, the news suggests that the move to large OLED displays is proving far more complex and investment heavy than previously thought. LCDs are a moving target in both price and display performance (plus the cool thinness factor), so OLEDs are continually challenged to deliver an ever growing set of parameters that are higher, better, and yes-cheaper than the status quo, even before mass production begins.

Is the technology (or rather the concentrated human thought) up to the challenge? Our best guess-yes, as long as the money holds out. Put another way-as long as belief in OLED meeting the challenge and delivering the goods holds out by those stakeholders who are leading the charge. You can’t help but cheer them on-for the world loves an underdog. - Steve Sechrist

I'm no expert, but please don't take Cambridge Display Tech's announcements too seriously. Their intellectual property portfolio is far inferior to Universal Display Corporation, plus they have a tendency to lean towards hype and hyperbole in their press releases and corporate presentations. The lifetimes of blue emitters remains the most significant obstacle preventing the widespread mass manufacture of OLEDs, be they small molecule or polymeric. Hopefully, a usable blue phosophorescent material [aka a blue phosphorescent material with good enough color coordinates] will be discovered within the next 1-2 years, but it's impossible to predict these things.

disclosure: i have invested in Universal Display Corporation.

More and more you get the sense that LCD and plasma will survive all challengers, including OLED.

They've knocked out all the previous contenders -- LCOS, SED, DLP, etc.

Nah. Just a matter of developing the technology. No show stoppers.

You can engineer anything. The problem isn't the technology or the lack of some breakthrough.

It's whether it can be produced at cost/price competitive levels to compete with the entrenched products.

Mass market won't pay a premium for quality. As MP3 shows, people will settle for "good enough" and affordable over quality.

OLED like many other techs. theoretically can be produced very cheaply. But it's been in development for how long now?

OLED will be rinky dink size forever!

OLED is anti-HOME THEATER!

OLED will be rinky dink size forever!

OLED is anti-HOME THEATER!

Good point: By 2016 there still won't be 40"-50" oled for sub $2000.00.

LG Display’s AMOLED Panel Development Trend (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=320)
11 November 2009


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LG Display’s 15-inch AMOLED TV & its specification

LG Display showcased various AMOLED panels at the IMID 2009 and the FPD International 2009, expressing its clear intention to engage in AMOLED business.

Its most eye-catching panel was a 15-inch AMOLED panel which will be used in LG Electronics’ TV products later this year. LG Display emphasized that the TV equipped with its 15-inch AMOLED display is the largest-ever AMOLED TV introduced so far and is the first to be released since Sony’s 11-inch AMOLED TV.


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LG Display’s 15-inch RGBW AMOLED panel & its specification

The company also exhibited a 15-inch RGBW AMOLED panel. In the existing R,G,B vapor deposition method for AMOLED, each of R, G, B is manufactured separately, allowing the optimization of color display and efficiency. However, the method has the disadvantage of using shadow mask for realizing R, G, B pixels, making it difficult to achieve high resolution and to be applicable to large-area panels. To solve these problems, the RGBW method using white light was used. The method does not require shadow mask so that a large-area OLED can be formed without the sagging of a mask plate of the shadow mask.

At FPD International 2009, LG Display showcased a 20.7-inch medical AMOLED panel for the first time. The panel features QSVGA (2560 x 2048) 5M pixel resolution and a contrast ratio of higher than 100,000:1, proving that it satisfied high resolution and high contrast ratio criteria required for medical display.


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LG Display’s 15-inch transparent AMOLED (left) and 20.7-inch medical AMOLED (right)

At the event, LG Display also displayed a 15-inch transparent AMOLED panel for the first time. According to the company, it is the first time that a transparent AMOLED panel with such a big size is exhibited although a number of small-size ones have been developed and displayed before. The panel has a 30 percent transparency and used the paste seal technology for encapsulation.


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LG Display’s 4.3-inch flexible AMOLED & its specification

As for small-sized panels, the firm displayed a 4.3-inch flexible AMOLED panel, a 4.3-inch AMOLED panel for mobile phones using image improvement technology, and a 2.7-inch AMOLED display for delta-structure digital cameras. LG Display reportedly plans to mass produce 4.3-inch and 2.7-inch AMOLED panels in the first half of next year.

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OLED at IWFPE 2009 (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=329)
25 November 2009


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Scenes of keynote speech delivery (left) and exhibition booths
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The International Workshop on Flexible & Printable Electronics (IWFPE) 2009 was held on November 18-19 at Muju Resort in North Jeolla Province, Korea. The event was hosted by the Korean Ministry of Knowledge Economy and attended by some 500 business leaders and industry figures.

In the keynote speech titled 'Printable Displays with Two faces,’ Jun-hyung Seok, managing director of Samsung Electronics, talked about the upsides and downsides of printable display, based on the experience Samsung accumulated for several years in its printing process application efforts.

The international workshop consisted of 63 invited talk sessions and 66 poster presentations encompassing areas of printable/flexible electronics, solar cell, organic TFT, e-paper, lighting, and thin film battery. Also, 10 companies, such as LG Display and Unijet, showcased e-paper, flexible AMOLED panels, and inkjet equipment at their exhibition booths.


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Frounhofer IPMS’s roll-to-roll coater for metal strip

In the area of OLED, professor Kim Jang-ju from Seoul National University and professor Park Jong-uk from Catholic University of Korea gave presentations on soluble materials for printing, and Frounhofer IPMS introduced roll-to-roll process and equipment. IAPP which is in cooperation with Novaled talked about improvement of white device efficiency, and Dr. Jeong-ik Lee from ETRI spoke about development of transparent white OLED devices.

Frounhofer IPMS announced a plan to set up roll-to-roll equipment for 30cm-wide metal foil substrate within the fourth quarter of this year. The equipment is top-down linear source (9ea organic, 2ea metal) and allows films to be formed continuously. However, Frounhofer IPMS does not have encapsulation equipment yet, and thus, the substrates after the film formation process have to be transferred in inert atmosphere shuttle for encapsulation process. It is assumed that Frounhofer IPMS has not yet figured out what is the best encapsulation structure.

ETRI talked about transparent white OLED device structure. It introduced the results of its research that achieved more than 20lm/W efficiency in the hybrid structure of fluorescent blue and phosphorescent green and red, by inserting an interlayer or optimizing device structure, such as electrode structure.

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LG buys Kodak's OLED unit (http://www.oled-info.com/lg-buys-kodaks-oled-unit)
6 December 2009

Kodak announced today that they have sold all their OLED related assets to a group of LG companies. Kodak will still have access to the technology to use in its own product.

Kodak is doing this to strengthen their financial situation. They also recognize that in order to realize the full value of the OLED business, it needs a significant investment.

This is a sad day for Kodak I think - they have invented OLEDs in 1970 and have been working on the technology for 40 years now (!). It'll be interesting to see what LG will do with Kodak's IP (which is mostly about Fluorescent OLEDs and manufacturing equipment). In any case, LG is showing that they are truly committed to OLEDs.

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Sumitomo and Idemitsu Kotsan say that 2012 will be the year when OLED finally takes off (http://www.oled-info.com/sumitomo-and-idemitsu-kotsan-say-2012-will-be-year-when-oled-finally-take)
11 December 2009

In an interesting article by the Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0463759c-e386-11de-9f4f-00144feab49a,s01=1.html), both Idemitsu Kotsan and Sumitomo executives estimate that "2012 will be the year when OLEDs hits the big times".

Idemitsu Kotsan also says that they are working on a new way to 'spray' small-molecule OLED materials. The new method should be ready by 2015. Spraying OLEDs (instead of using vapor-deposition) will mean less material loss, and thus cheaper displays. It will also make it easier to fabricate large panels.

Sumitomo is focusing on blue lifetime, and say that they will reach 50,000-60,000 hours by March 2010.

More and more you get the sense that LCD and plasma will survive all challengers, including OLED.

They've knocked out all the previous contenders -- LCOS, SED, DLP, etc.

Probably but LCD still sucks, even with all of the gimmicks such as local dimming etc.

I own a Bravia XBR LCD and the black levels, viewing angle and un-even brightness across the set make for a sub-par picture. I have never seen an LCd set that looks tht great. And plasma has it's own set of problems and the black levels on those aren't perfect either.

I also own a couple of OLED products (Zune HD, GP2X Wiz) and the PQ on those is great. Too bad they can't get the costs down. For me having only the choice between plasma and LCD is a choice of bad and worse.

LG's 15-inch Transparent AMOLED Display Concept (http://gizmodo.com/5391640/lgs-15+inch-transparent-amoled-display-concept)
20 October 2009


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The FPD (Flat Display Panel) show has kicked off over in Japan, so expect to see some cool display concepts this morning. First up: this transparent number, plus a few other AMOLED concepts in the video after the jump.

Akihabara News' video below also shows LG's 47-inch LED backlit TV concept, and a mulit-touch notebook display. No real information is given, but it looks like they're all AMOLED-based. [Akihabara News (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-19210-%5BFPD+2009%5D+LG+Booth..html)]

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Samsung OLED-TV can compete against LCD in 2013-2014 (http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-oled-tv-can-compete-against-lcd-in-2013-2014)
29 October 2009


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At FPD International in Japan the vice president Kim from Samsung spoke about the future of OLED-Television. Kim thinks that OLED panels in the size from 40 to 50 inch can compete against LCD technology in 4 to 5 years.


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Samsung mobile display produce AMOLED in the 4th generation production line. The next step is to enter the Netbook and Notebook market with OLED Displays.

The production lines does have a manufacturing quality of 90 percent, and the life times from the new AMOLED displays are about 50,000 hours.

Source (http://www.dt.co.kr/contents.html?article_no=2009103002010632614002)

It is very possible that Quantum Dot displays will beat OLED. Who really knows?

Great thread, any updates on dates?

OLED will be rinky dink size forever!

OLED is anti-HOME THEATER!I'm starting to think that for affordable OLED's. 2009 we have the 3.3" OLED screens (cowon s9, zune hd), 2010 we'll see 4.5", and so on.

Shame Kodak had to sell. At least they kept rights for their own products. Looks like OLED will be all offshore.

I dont think OLED will be an Plasma Killer in the near future...
Plasma will be capable of producing 0 cd/m² blacks. Brightness and Motion issues will be improved.
Panasonic has shown a 8,8 mm Prototyp with infinitv black (zero Illuminance), decreased power consumption and of course 3D, which panasonic is willing to bring forward to mainstream.
I dont need OLED when Plasma is nearly perfect... There wont be big diffrence in picture quality. Plasma only needs the last finish.
Not OLED is the next big think in picture quality, rather 3D...

ps: sry for my bad english^^

The phosphor trails on plasmas still bug me, so OLED is my last resort.

Even if you can't see the phosphor trails, motion pictures don't look as they should. They have a certain cast / tint that degrades the quality.

I suspect OLED will be better for daytime viewing than plasma.

I dont think OLED will be an Plasma Killer in the near future...
Plasma will be capable of producing 0 cd/m² blacks. Brightness and Motion issues will be improved.
Panasonic has shown a 8,8 mm Prototyp with infinitv black (zero Illuminance), decreased power consumption and of course 3D, which panasonic is willing to bring forward to mainstream.
I dont need OLED when Plasma is nearly perfect... There wont be big diffrence in picture quality. Plasma only needs the last finish.
Not OLED is the next big think in picture quality, rather 3D...

ps: sry for my bad english^^

Yes, but specs do not win, production plants do. I am a plasma loyalist and never want see them go , but they will. LCD's, then laser and OLED. Sorry.

Can only make those glass tubes so tiny.

LG Targets Cheap OLED TVs By 2016 (http://www.twice.com/article/366936-LG_Targets_Cheap_OLED_TVs_By_2016.php)
30 October 2009

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LG 15" OLED Prototype
Yokohama City, Japan. - LG Display is using the FPD International 2009 show here this week to reveal plans for marketing its first organic light emitting diode (OLED) TVs, according to a Nikkei report.

First on tap is a 15-inch OLED TV with an LG developed panel slated for market introduction by the end of 2009, the report said. Possible U.S. introduction panels were not mentioned.

Panel resolution was listed as 1,366-by-768.

Maximum screen luminance with an all-white signal and an all-black signal are 200cd/m2 and 0.01cd/m2, respectively, according to Nikkei. Peak luminance was said to be 450cd/m2.

The report said the panel was first unveiled last month in Korea and features "a bottom emission design using low-temperature polycrystal Si-TFTs that are crystallized by a high-temperature process (solid phase crystallization or SPC) as driver elements."

Next year, LG said it is planning to introduce 20-inch and larger OLED panels, moving to 30-inch and larger panels in 2011 and 40-inch and larger panels in 2012.

The 40-inch and larger models will be "fairly expensive" in 2012 a company representative reportedly said, but the company's goal is to reduce OLED panel cost to levels less than equivalent LCD panels in 2016.

LG Display said it is targeting a migration path with a 50 percent higher material cost and a 30 percent lower yield than those of LCD panels in 2012 and a 20-30 percent lower material cost and an equivalent yield in 2016.

Remaining technical challenges to achieving volume production of larger screen OLED panels reportedly include optimizing: driver elements (TFTs), organic EL materials and film forming processes and sealing processes.

At the show, LG is showing OLED products ranging in size from 2.67- to 20.7-inches, including a 14.1-inch panel for notebook PCs with a privacy protection function, the company said.

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OLED Shipments Explode in Q3'09, Bringing in More Than $250M in Revenues (http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41181.php)
21 December 2009

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Quarterly OLED Display Revenues
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Q3’09 OLED Market Revenue Share
In its latest Quarterly OLED Shipment and Forecast Report, DisplaySearch reported that worldwide OLED revenues shattered its previous record, reaching $252 million in revenue for Q3'09, up 31% Q/Q. In addition, Q3'09 OLED shipments were 21.7 million, up 19% Q/Q.

*Despite the state of the economy, increased demand in high-end mobile and smart phones has driven growth, partially due to Samsung Telecom's continued heavy promotion efforts of AMOLED smart phone high-performance benefits.

Samsung Mobile Displays (SMD) maintained its strong lead in OLED shipments and also captured a 73% market share in AMOLED revenues, while RiTdisplay ranked second with a 12% share. LG Display has also announced plans to start production of 15" AMOLED TV displays in Q3'09.

"While the mobile phone industry continues to suffer as a result of the economy, Samsung's marketing initiatives have propelled high-end AMOLED mobile phone demand to new heights," noted Hiroshi Hayase, DisplaySearch Director of Small/Medium Displays. "The company is forecast to maintain its lead in mobile displays in 2010."

While the AMOLED market has increased in both shipments and revenues, PMOLED did not grow from 2008 to 2009, as a result of the shift from clam-shell style phones that use PMOLED to high-end mobile smart phones. Despite this, PMOLED demand is increasing in automotive applications adopted by Mercedes Benz and Lexus. As a result, PMOLED shipments for automotive applications have increased to 427K in Q3'09, up 19% Q/Q and 22% Y/Y.

The OLED market has also witnessed market consolidation this past quarter, with Eastman Kodak Co. selling its OLED display business to LG Electronics, as well as InnoLux acquiring CMO and TPO, including their OLED production.

2016?

They must be kidding.

Well, considering LCD prices are constantly dropping, by 2016, a 50" LCD may cost ~$400, so a 50" OLED will be around $500 too, which is crazy cheap. You can always buy an OLED TV before 2016, but it'd be like $2000.

LG 15-inch OLED TV Sony rival on sale now (http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/lg-15-inch-oled-tv-sony-rival-on-sale-now-661233)
4 January 2010

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LG's OLED TV on sale in Korea {Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNPkW_iLy6g&fmt=18)}
LG's long awaited OLED TV has finally launched, although it doesn't have a name yet and will only be available in Korea for now.

It will cost the equivalent of £1,500, which is cheaper than Sony's XEL-1 OLED TV, and has a four inch larger screen size at 15-inch.

The TV has been given its own promotional push in Korea, where it's just giving it the title "OLED TV", so this could be only a test run for the big push, although it did confirm it would be releasing the 15-inch version in December 2009.

On the radar

But the company has been showing off OLED TVs since CES last year, and in September confirmed to TechRadar that it will be looking at larger OLED TVs soon too.

Either way, it's a long time coming - Sony was the first to the OLED TV game back in 2007 and nobody has stepped up to the plate to offer an alternative as yet, with most citing the high cost of production as a barrier.

Check out the video to see the TV in action in a store in Seoul.

More Photos of LG's 15" OLED TV
4 January 2010

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Videos of LG's 15" OLED TV
4 January 2010

Each picture is linked to its video on YouTube. First two are real HD, rest are SD.

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LG 15" AMOLED screens
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[eNuri.com] LG 15" OLED
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IFA 2009: LG OLED looks stunning
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Which?: LG's 15 inch OLED TV and autumn 09 TV lineup
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IFA 09: Preview Lg OLED 15"
SD 640 x 480 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmUsCbzgn8&fmt=35)

Samsung Mobile Display show 14-inch qFHD 3D OLED at CES-2010 (http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-mobile-display-show-14-inch-qfhd-3d-oled-at-ces-2010)
5 January 2010

Samsung Mobile Display (SMD) will be demonstrating three leading-edge, next generation OLED displays at Pepcom’s Digital Experience!
We are at the Digital Experience so stay tuned for exclusive pictures and videos!

1. A 14-inch qFHD 3D OLED prototype: ‘Crosstalk Free’

This 14-inch 3D panel is the world's first OLED display that features qFHD resolution (960x 540), a contrast ratio of 100,000:1, a color gamut of over 100% NTSC and a ultra-slim design with a panel thickness of only 1.6mm – providing outstanding brightness and exceptional image quality.

Image switching on this prototype panel is fast enough to eliminate optical crosstalk between the two 3D images.

2. A 14-inch qFHD Transparent OLED for Note PCs: World's first and largest

SMD is showing the world’s first and largest transparent OLED panel prototype, designed for use in applications from smartphones, MP3s and Note PCs to ‘head-up’ displays for vehicles, and advertisement displays that are interactive and eye-catching.

When the screen is off, the prototype has up to a 40% transparency. The average amount of transparency in the industry is below 25 percent.

As SMD’s transparent OLED for Note PCs represents the highest resolution on the largest screen with high transparency, it should soon be used to display actual transparent products.

3. A 2-inch Electronic-ID OLED operated by RF Power:

An electronic ID card prototype featuring a new chip that stores personal information like an identification number.

RF-powered AMOLED (Active Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode) technology is used for the enhanced electronic ID cards, taking security to a higher level. It can also securely store biographical information and digital imagery in the card.

The screen requires no additional battery power, and instead can draw power from a nearby RF-powered source that is AMOLED adapted.

Some potential applications for the prototype include:

ID document – e-ID; eVisa on passport; driver’s licenses
Dynamic security feature for banking & e-commerce – online transactions; credit cards
Travel & Transport – vehicle registration cards
Source: Samsung (http://www.virtualpressoffice.com/publicsiteContentFileAccess?fileContentId=227276&fromOtherPageToDisableHistory=Y&menuName=News&sId=53&sInfo=Y)

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Yu Precision to supply AUO with $29 billion worth of AMOLED Manufacturing Equipment (http://www.oled-display.net/yu-precision-to-supply-auo-with-29-billion-worth-of-amoled-manufacturing-equipment)
5 January 2010

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AUO 14" OLED panel prototype
Taiwan's Yu Precision signed a contract with AUO (AU Optronics Corp) to supply 33 billion worth of active matrix organic light-emitting diode (AMOLED) manufacturing equipment.

This deal is a huge step in the two companies' history. Yu Precision will enable AUO to reach their goal of becoming the world leader in the OLED market.

AU Optronics had planned to produce OLED panels and released a 14" OLED HDTV last year.

ISOCHROMA,

i hope that i can buy a 1500$ 40inch good working,long lasting OLED in 2015.
Is that realistic in your opinion?

I wouldn't be surprised to see APPLE put an OLED screen on their upcoming TABLET. While this is one of the stories going around it is possible and would make the TABLET a game changer for viewing TV etc.

A 10-inch OLED would make it very expensive. Plus it's questionable how much benefit OLED would provide right now. It's worse in battery life than LCD for web applications or where all the pixels have to light up for text. Or reading outside.

They'd have to really be emphasizing video to make OLED worthwhile.

Google's Nexus One announced yesterday has a 3.7-inch AMOLED. But distribution is limited to the web and to a couple of countries, with only US sales at start. It could be that the screen can't be produced in high-enough volumes for Google to try to move iPhone-levels of volume.

A 10-inch OLED would make it very expensive. Plus it's questionable how much benefit OLED would provide right now. It's worse in battery life than LCD for web applications or where all the pixels have to light up for text. Or reading outside.

They'd have to really be emphasizing video to make OLED worthwhile.

Google's Nexus One announced yesterday has a 3.7-inch AMOLED. But distribution is limited to the web and to a couple of countries, with only US sales at start. It could be that the screen can't be produced in high-enough volumes for Google to try to move iPhone-levels of volume.

Ahh, perhaps that's one of the reasons why Apple is delaying the use of an OLED screen in the iPhone. Hopefully the next iteration (beyond the 3GS) will have an OLED screen!

Apple has to ship tens of millions of iPods and iPod Touches.

The Nexus One is shipping a fraction of that, because of high price and the 3G radio only works on T-Mobile US network. They're going to ship in the UK and Hong Kong too and then other countries later. They're ramping up slowly.

It may help scale up AMOLED production and reduce costs as they get more efficient at manufacturing in volume.

I read a report by an industry watcher, quoted earlier in this thread, that it won't be until about 2012 where OLED will be more efficient across the board than LCDs and better for viewing in sunlight as well.

[QUOTE=Isochroma;17855982AU Optronics had planned to produce OLED panels and released a 14" OLED HDTV last year.[/QUOTE]

AUO 14" OLED was a 1080p prototype and it has not been released for the consumer market. But AUO as a manufacturer, provides displays for Samsung. Does anybody know if we can expect Samsung 14" 1080p OLED tv/ or PC monitor to hit the shops this year?

Looks like LG's 15" OLED TV will be released in the US this summer! No price announced though. At least we finally have a model number! ;)

http://www.oled-display.net/lg-display-introduce-el9500-15-inch-oled-tv-at-ces-2010

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The perfect bathroom TV will soon be here! :D

LG Display introduces EL9500 15-inch OLED-Tv at CES-2010 (http://www.oled-display.net/lg-display-introduce-el9500-15-inch-oled-tv-at-ces-2010)
7 January 2010

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YouTube: LG Display EL9500 OLED TV at CES-2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBCXOMjKAfM&fmt=35)

LG Display introduce the EL9500 it is an 15 inch OLED TV Panel

LG Display told us that the Panel is a Water resistant Display. Water resistant display opens up new posibilities of TV usage. LG Display want to introduce the EL9500 in the United States in the summer 2010. At the moment there is no date for the european market.


Cutting Edge Picture Quality
Quick Response time for Moving picture
Vivid Picture Quality by OLED
Mega Contrast Ratio
New Paradigm Ratio
Ultra Slim Depth
Light as a Feather
Convenient to use
Flexible us as both Wall mount & Stand type
Water repellent


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Now let's here it for the 20" announcements. ;) :D :rolleyes:

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the 24.5" panel that Sony showed off.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/sony-oled-3d-tv-eyes-on/

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Perfect size for a computer monitor! :) Too bad it would probably cost as much as a 65" LCD or plasma.

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the 24.5" panel that Sony showed off.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/sony-oled-3d-tv-eyes-on/

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Perfect size for a computer monitor! :) Too bad it would probably cost as much as a 65" LCD or plasma.

Perhaps Sony will release a production version of this 24.5" OLED display by the end of the year... Sony is long overdue for releasing a successor to the XEL-1! :) If they did release a production version, I guess it'd cost over $5k! :o I wonder if this panel is fully PHOLED or not (UDC)?

Samsung shows new 3D AMOLED Displays at CES-2010 (http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-show-new-3d-amoled-displays-at-ces-2010)
7 January 2010

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Samsung showed a new 3D AMOLED-TV prototype at CES-2010. This is the newest and biggest 3D AMOLED from Samsung. At the moment we have no more technical details, the Samsung guys do not have any information yet. We think the size is also more than 20 inch. Delight your Senses!

Stay tuned.

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Videos

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YouTube: Samsung 3D AMOLED at CES-2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PuZHi-Z00&fmt=35)

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YouTube: 3D OLED-Television from Samsung at CES-2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O64QVNnO5pw&fmt=35)

I guess I should have said "As soon as a company produces the *first decent sized and affordable* OLED then the rest will follow". That Sony OLED was pointless. It is too small, too expensive, and too low resolution to make an impact. If they would have come out with at least a 32" set at least true 720P resolution and cost $1800 it would have been a bit different.

The problem is that most of the time good is good enough for the masses. People aren't dumping their DVDs in favor of blu-ray en masse either. DVD for most people is good enough. It just isn't worth the extra cost to upgrade all af their equipment for a picture that is "a little crisper". They will just say "My old DVD player still works, and I don't notice much difference or don't care"

The same goes for TVs. Their LCD or PDP is good enough. The masses just aren't bothered much by black levels, brightness , viewing angle, response time, etc. The thing driving OLED right now is small devices where thickness and power consumption are most important.

I have to agree. OLED has a greater upside in iPhone or other smart phone devices as well as the shrinking notebook computers. Both devices will gain significantly if cost is reduced via OLED screens. The business objective now is to get an iPhone in everyone's pocket with price being the major drawback right now.

I need to get my family room updated/completed with cabinetry, audio, and video devices. I can't put my life on hold due to something I cannot control; that being when OLED TVs will be manufactured in greater than 58" sizes at an acceptable basic consumer price point. I know a V10 Plasma is a "gas hog" compared to the OLED, but I gotta move forward.

The bar has now been raised. Looks like OLED will need to have a 3D version, too. :rolleyes:

Dell Studio XPS 16 OLED concept laptop (http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/studio-xps-16-oled-concept-laptop-hands-on/)

"Beautiful viewing angle and legitimately wide viewing angle, the Studio XPS 16 OLED concept laptop was on hand and turning heads at Dell's CES suite. It's definitely a beaut, claiming a super-thin 2mm screen, a 0.004ms response time, and a contrast ratio "exceeding 10,000:1." The big catch here, as you can see in some of the images below (the giant "Please Do Not Touch" sign deterred us from fixing ourselves) is that the ultra-glossy wrist panel is a beacon for dust. Feast your eyes below!"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/xps-oled-concept-hands-rm-eng-1262988247.jpg

The bar has now been raised. Looks like OLED will need to have a 3D version, too. :rolleyes:Yeh, do you find it odd that they are promoting 3D OLED when they haven't even released a standard OLED yet? What is the point really, get a decent sized standard set out there before you start with the 3D thing.

Yeh, do you find it odd that they are promoting 3D OLED when they haven't even released a standard OLED yet? What is the point really, get a decent sized standard set out there before you start with the 3D thing.

No - they had to demonstrate it with 3D or it would've been drowned on CES.

How does this sound: "LCD had fabulous 3D while OLED couldn't do it!"?

We know that this isn't true (and that OLED may be the best display tech to feature 3D because it's so fast) but you know the media and lobbyists.

As we can conclude CES 2010, the manufacturers are wetting our appetite for OLED. Until finally everyone is so hungry for OLED that the market develops itself.

Until then there is this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/retro-gaming/bfc7/?cpg=froogle

A unit with an OLED screen for only $179. Ok the screen is a bit small to watch movies on but at least it isn't $2500.00 :D

No... :(

http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/01/13/interview-with-stan-glasgow-coopresident-of-sony-electronics-usa/

We’re working on all sorts of prototypes, but I don’t see production of product in 2010. There’s a wonderful 3D OLED prototype here at CES; that’s the real way to do 3D and TV – because you’ve got direct transmission, rather than back lighting and all the other reflective ways of doing it. But getting it to be commercially reasonable in price, we’ve got a long way to go. That’s the whole problem in OLED, great technology, great feature set, but it’s really hard to get the costs down. Smaller form-factors are easy to do.

LG has confirmed plans for gen 5.5 OLED fab for next year. At that glass size, 30" OLED's will be a commercial reality and may even start showing up at the local Best Buy. They'll be expensive (my WAG is in the $2000-$2500) price range.

One other guess....Samsung Mobile Display will get their next gen fab up first. The two companies are way too competitive for Samsung to allow LG to pass them in a market that they started.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2010/01/22/201001220053.asp

He also said LG Display plans to start the production of OLED TV panels as early as next year. To that end, the company eyes a 5.5-generation LCD plant that is optimized for 30-inch panels, he added.

OLED displays, short for organic light-emitting diode displays, are thinner than LCDs, and have better picture quality and consume less power than LCDs.

TV makers see OLED TVs as the next big thing, but they are cautious about introducing the new products because of expensive production costs. Currently, OLED screens are mainly used in small-size devices such as mobile phones and cameras.

Barry Young updates us on OLEDs at Samsung, Sony, LG and the rumored Apple device (http://www.oled-info.com/barry-young-updates-us-oleds-samsung-sony-lg-and-rumored-apple-device)
20 January 2010

There's a very interesting discussion over at ArsTechnica (http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/january-launch-of-10-inch-amoled-apple-tablet-near-impossible.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss) about OLEDs and Apple's upcoming new device (http://www.oled-info.com/apple-unveil-their-new-product-january-27th). They are talking to Barry Young from the OLED-Assocation, and he says that no one is making any 10" OLED panels, so it's not possible that Apple are 'hoarding' up all the available panels (http://www.oled-info.com/apples-4g-iphone-debut-april-and-have-oled-display)....

Barry says that Samsung, the most advanced OLED manufacturer, can produce about fourteen 10.1-inch panels per substrate. That means that they could produce around 150,000 10.1" panels a month, but they currently cannot meet their small-panel demand (http://www.oled-info.com/samsung-say-they-have-achieved-90-amoled-yield-working-24h-day), so it's not likely they are producing any larg displays.

LG is even less likely, as they have 10%-15% of Samsung's capacity. LG has a new plant that's coming online later in 2010 (http://www.oled-info.com/lg-build-5g-amoled-plant-will-begin-mass-production-2h-2011), but Barry says that it'll be mostly dedicated to their own 15" TV panels (http://www.oled-info.com/lgs-15-oled-tv-now-sale-korea-2580). LG would have to hurt their own TV business in order to supply panels to Apple.

"The best case is that if Apple announces an AMOLED with a 10.1-inch display, it would have much higher price and have very low volumes," Young concluded. Maybe Apple will announce an OLED device that will only be available much alter in 2010.

Barry says that the future for OLEDs look bright. Samsung are preparing a new 8G fab that can produce both LCDs and AMOLEDs. This can be used to 42" OLEDs. Samsung has doubled their capacity in 2009 and will do so again in 2010 (http://www.oled-info.com/samsung/samsung_sdi_oled_tvs_in_2009_flexible_ones_in_2010_will_doub le_amoled_capacity_in_2009_and_i). The only bad news come from Sony - who has gone back to an R&D phase (http://www.oled-info.com/sony-delays-their-larger-oled-tv-xel-2-2010).

What ever happened to Panasonic's intentions to bring a 40inch OLED display to market in 2010?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/panasonic-and-sumitomo-see-eye-to-eye-in-this-oled-game-big-scr/

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Panasonic and Sumitomo see eye to eye in this OLED game, big screens due in 2010

May 8th 2009 4:21AM



http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/05/toshiba-oled-tv-prototype_400_050809.jpg (http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/ac/tnks/Nni20090507D07JFF05.htm)

Ready with the proper retort to all those rumors (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/24/panasonic-working-on-37-inch-oled-tv-theyd-better-be/), false starts (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/17/japanese-outfits-to-collaborate-on-power-saving-oled-panels/) and misquotations (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/15/sumitomo-may-not-actually-produce-oled-tvs-in-2009/), the Nikkei is reporting that Panasonic and Sumitomo are zeroed in and have the tunnel vision to deliver the 40-inch plus OLED HDTVs we've been waiting for within fiscal 2010"

What's so enticing about these OLED's as TV's anyway?

1) Pioneer already demoed a Plasma around 1/3 of an inch thick two years ago. Panasonic demoed one a year ago. So we know PDP's can get real thin, even if not quite as thin as OLED.
2) PDP's already have extremely wide viewing angles
3) Pioneer already long-ago demoed ECC (Extreme Contrast Concept), so we know that "Infinite Blacks" are not impossible for PDP.
4) Panasonic is talking of a 2010 model 42 inch PDP that consumes only 95 watts. Samsung is talking of a 2010 model 50 inch that consumes 150 watts. So every year power consumption becomes less and less of an issue for PDP.
5) PDP's already have fast response time and pretty good motion, save for the phposphor lag which Panasonic is touting has been reduced by 1/3 for the offending colors.
6) PDP's are generally rated for 100,000 hours these days. Not much in the way of longevity issues.
7) Each year people seem to crave ever-larger sized panels. Many people are craving sizes even greater than 60-65 inches now. It will probably be several years before OLED tech will progress to the point of offering very large sized panels for anything close to a reasonable price. One would assume during this several year waiting period, that PDP technology will continue to progress and plasmas will be even thinner, lighter, brighter, more efficient, with near-perfect blacks, less IR issues, less phosphor lag issues, etc.

I'm trying to understand what will be the main draw for people to want to pay really high prices for HT sized OLED displays.

Phosphor lag and dithering will alway be problems!

I dont even see phosphor lag, like most people, and dithering is only visible at very short distance. How can you know, that this issues cant be solved ?

OLED will be interesting for small displays, used in mobile phones etc. or for PC Monitors... but Plasma will be the future technologie for big Home Theater Televisions for the next 7 years...

OLED is still years away from being as cheap as Plasma. Plasma is a good, solid Display technologie which is very similiar to OLED. There is still room for improvements on Plasma and I think when OLED becomes attractive, there wont be much difference to Plasma.
I mean, why buy a 32" OLED that cost 3000-4000 Dollar, when I can get a 70" Plasma for 2000-3000 Dollar.
Oled is a great technologie without any doubt but Oled isnt that much ahead to say: thats gone revolutionise the hole market...

In the near future we gone see infinitv black sets from panasonic. Plasma is getting brigther, thinner and cheaper... LCD cant compare on that level. If you want a thin LCD you have to make a compromise in PQ. You cant have both on a LCD and I dont see that changing soon.

OLED Developments thread, folks. Stop hijacking the OP's dedicated OLED thread to argue about the merits of Plasma. There are plenty of other threads where that is covered. Thanks.:)

OLED Developments thread, folks. Stop hijacking the OP's dedicated OLED thread to argue about the merits of Plasma. There are plenty of other threads where that is covered. Thanks.:)

Agreed.

Anyways, it looks like I'm predicting that if Panasonic starts pursuing OLED, then they may not focus as much on LCD TV anymore (just Plasma and OLED).

Just my two cents.:)

OLED Developments thread, folks. Stop hijacking the OP's dedicated OLED thread to argue about the merits of Plasma. There are plenty of other threads where that is covered. Thanks.:)

agree

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/samsung_700z/


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Samsung Electronics America has introduced the Samsung 700Z Digital Photo Frame, its slimmest frame yet for displaying high-quality images. The frame’s foldable “L” stand design and ultra slim active matrix (AM) OLED panel makes the Samsung 700Z a multi-purpose device. The AMOLED self-luminescent screen delivers bright, high contrast images at a 1024x600 resolution both in dark and bright atmospheres. In addition to its high-quality display and decorative frame function, the 9x6.6x4.6 inch Samsung 700Z can also be used as a secondary home or office monitor by simply connecting it to a PC through a USB cable. A recipient of a Consumer Electronics Show 2010 Innovation Award, the Samsung 700Z has a suggested retail price of $300 and will be available in stores March 2010.

Samsung Press Release

SAMSUNG INTRODUCES 700Z DIGITAL PHOTO FRAME WITH AWARD-WINNING SLEEK DESIGN AND SLIM DISPLAY

New multimedia display device is recognized at Consumer Electronics Show for innovative design and dual performance capabilities

Las Vegas, January 6, 2009 – Samsung Electronics America, Inc. today introduced the Samsung 700Z Digital Photo Frame, its slimmest frame yet for displaying high quality images. The photo frame, a recipient of a Consumer Electronics Show 2010 Innovation Award, expands Samsung’s role as a leader in digital technology design and function.

“The 700Z is a representation of Samsung’s goal to offer design and performance simultaneously,” said Young Bae, director Display Marketing, Samsung Information Technology Division. “In addition to its sleek aesthetics for photo display, this frame also serves as a monitor for small desk spaces and home offices.”

Combining Design and Functionality

Crafted for home and office use, the frame’s foldable “L” stand design and ultra slim active matrix (AM) OLED panel makes the Samsung 700Z a multi-purpose device. The device uses DLNA licensed technology to sync with other home and/or mobile photo and video devices making sharing content easy. In addition to its high-quality display and decorative frame function, the 9x6.6x4.6 inch Samsung 700Z can also be used as a secondary home or office monitor by simply connecting it to a PC through a USB cable. The 700Z is ideal for consumers looking to add secondary monitor and high-quality family photos into a tight office space, using one device.

Energy-Efficient Design

The quality of the Samsung 700Z design is matched by its excellent performance. It has an eco-sensitive AMOLED screen rather than a backlight which makes it not only thin, but also very energy efficient. The screen minimizes the user’s power consumption and simultaneously creates cost savings.

High Quality Images in all Environments

The AMOLED self-luminescent screen delivers bright, high contrast images at a 1024x600 resolution both in dark and bright atmospheres. It also has a wide viewing angle which ensures the picture quality even from 180 degree angles. The AMOLED also has a 0.01mS response time that gives the Samsung 700Z the ability to deliver moving images such as movies or television programs as well.
Bluetooth connectivity features allows Samsung 700Z users to share multimedia content across devices wirelessly, including uploading mobile photos and sharing pictures across multiple 700Z frames.

The Samsung 700Z has a suggested retail price of $300 and will be available in stores March 2010.

http://www.photographyblog.com/images/sized/images/uploads/samsung700z-500x333.jpg

Damn that's superb news..........however, I also am highly interested in the display on the right. What is that thing? A new Syncmaster monitor?

:)

Goofed picture. :D
Looking at and holding the wrong display.. come on.

AUO to start OLED production in 2011, says CEO (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100129PD200.html)
29 January 2010

AU Optronics (AUO) expects its OLED line to complete equipment installation by the end of 2010 and start production in 2011, according to company president and CEO, LJ Chen.

Chen said its clients are eager to see OLED products and AUO's OLED panels will definitely come out next year, chiefly for small- to medium-size applications. AUO will use its 3.5G LTPS line to produce OLED, he added.

Chen said AUO is venturing into other technologies and fields, such as OLED and solar energy, as it has realized that capacity expansion and migration to higher-generation production for LCD panels are no longer the most important goals for the company.

AUO has recently acquired FED (field emission displays) technology from Sony's affiliate Field Emission Technologies (FET) and FET Japan (FETJ), and expects to start producing FED products in 2011-2012, Chen said.

AUO was one of the makers that started OLED production in Taiwan, but later suspended it because at the time materials and equipment were not mature, he said.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/mitsubishi-to-introduce-preposterously-large-149-inch-oled-tv-at/

Mitsubishi to showcase 149" OLED TV

AUO to start OLED production in 2011, says CEO (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100129PD200.html)
29 January 2010

AU Optronics (AUO) expects its OLED line to complete equipment installation by the end of 2010 and start production in 2011, according to company president and CEO, LJ Chen.

Chen said its clients are eager to see OLED products and AUO's OLED panels will definitely come out next year, chiefly for small- to medium-size applications. AUO will use its 3.5G LTPS line to produce OLED, he added.

Chen said AUO is venturing into other technologies and fields, such as OLED and solar energy, as it has realized that capacity expansion and migration to higher-generation production for LCD panels are no longer the most important goals for the company.

AUO has recently acquired FED (field emission displays) technology from Sony's affiliate Field Emission Technologies (FET) and FET Japan (FETJ), and expects to start producing FED products in 2011-2012, Chen said.

AUO was one of the makers that started OLED production in Taiwan, but later suspended it because at the time materials and equipment were not mature, he said.

This is pretty interesting, especially the part about small-medium size displays. I recently read that AUO is supplying the IPS LCD panels for the new ipad - perhaps they're gearing up for a long-lasting relationship with Apple, supplying future mobile devices, such as laptops, or a newer ipad, with OELD displays?

Long article on OLED's with a pretty definitive quote from LG. The difference between this and previous speculation is that LG is actually building a fab that will be able to commercialize displays in these sizes.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/?ST=english_PRINT

Building on this foundation, LG Display announced it would volume-produce 20-inch class large-size OLED panels in 2010, 30-inch class in 2011, and 40-inch class in 2012. Vice President Won Kim, in charge of OLED Sales & Marketing at the firm, is confident: "They may be expensive, but it will be possible to buy a 40-inch class OLED TV in 2012."

40" in 2012...what a joke. Plasma should have reached true zero luminance by that point (should it still be around).

40" in 2012...what a joke. Plasma should have reached true zero luminance by that point (should it still be around).

That's why it's an early technology which continues to progress as time passes.

;)

Long article on OLED's with a pretty definitive quote from LG. The difference between this and previous speculation is that LG is actually building a fab that will be able to commercialize displays in these sizes.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/?ST=english_PRINT

The 20" OLED cost is 3 000 000 Korean won which is about 2600$.
This is far from any market impact.

The 20" OLED cost is 3 000 000 Korean won which is about 2600$.
This is far from any market impact.

It really wasn't very long ago that that was the price for a 32" LCD TV. Personally, I am impressed that it is already that inexpensive. I think cheap OLED PC monitors by 2015 might be a reality.

OLED Panels: The Way to Larger Screens (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/?P=1)
1 February 2010

The market for organic LED panels continues to grow, for small panels in mobile phones and similar devices, as well as in lighting. The trend is accelerating as the possibilities for large OLED panels open up, and a new market for 20-inch and larger OLED TVs may emerge in 2010 or beyond. Development of technologies for larger screens at lower cost is surging ahead. This article probes the shape of the next generation of flat screen TVs.

The OLED panel boasts phenomenal performance, including displays that surpass those of CRT, superlative blacks, and ultra-thin bodies only a few millimeters thick. They have been called the ultimate display panel for flat screen TVs. Sony Corp. became the first in the world to volume-produce an 11-inch OLED TV in October 2007, but the technology never took off. At the time, television manufacturers like Toshiba Corp. and Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. announced plans to volume-produce OLED TVs, but as of the end of 2009, at least, neither company shows any signs of shipping.

LG Electronics Aggressively Pursuing Larger Screens

Development in large-size OLED panels has seemed stagnant for some time, but all of a sudden it has picked up speed again.

One of the most active firms is the LG Group: LG Electronics, Inc. announced a 15-inch OLED TV in August 2009, releasing it to the Korean market in December of the same year for three million won.

The OLED panel was manufactured by LG Display Co., Ltd., another group firm, and delivers a peak brightness of 450cd/m2, a contrast ratio of at least 100,000:1 and a color reproducibility range of 98% of the NTSC standard. The TFT drive device uses poly-silicon crystallized in a high-temperature process known as solid-phase crystallization (SPC). Each of the red, green, and blue OLED-emitting films is created by vacuum-depositing material via a shadow mask. A cavity structure (multiple reflection interference) is used to expand the range of color reproducibility.

LG Display is already working on a small OLED panel for mobile phones. The company announced plans to ramp up a new OLED panel manufacturing line in the first quarter of 2010, and has continues to boost production scale. In June 2009 it entered into a tie-up with Idemitsu Kosan Co. Ltd., securing OLED material supplies, and in December 2009 it announced the acquisition of the OLED business of OLED panel pioneer Eastman Kodak Co.: LG Display is clearly strengthening its R&D capabilities.

Building on this foundation, LG Display announced it would volume-produce 20-inch class large-size OLED panels in 2010, 30-inch class in 2011, and 40-inch class in 2012. Vice President Won Kim, in charge of OLED Sales & Marketing at the firm, is confident: "They may be expensive, but it will be possible to buy a 40-inch class OLED TV in 2012."

Healthy Growth in Small Panel Market

Part of the reason behind the LG Group's eagerness is strong growth in small OLED panels. OLED panels are becoming the display of choice in many portable electronic products, including mobile phones, smartphones, media players, and digital cameras (Fig. 1). For mobile products like these that handle imagery, according to Hiroshi Hayase, Director of DisplaySearch in Japan, "The excellent display performance of OLED panels is something that can be immediately appreciated by the user." More and more manufacturers are entering the market, such as Casio Computer Co., Ltd. and Toppan Printing Co., Ltd. Toppan announced the establishment of a new company to volume-produce small OLED panels for digital cameras and similar applications in November 2009.


http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/z1.jpg

OLEDs are achieving full-scale adoption in several markets,
primarily mobile phones and smartphones. They are having
a tough time penetrating the home electronics market, but
larger displays are expected in 2010 or beyond.

Display market research firm DisplaySearch forecasts that total OLED panel shipment value in 2009 will reach about US$845 million (Fig. 2). Of this, says the firm, mobile phone main screen displays will account for about US$521 million or about 61% of the total. Main screen display shipment value is expected to rise at least five times by 2016, hitting about US$2,820 million.

As volume production rises, manufacturing yield at industry leader Samsung Mobile Display Co., Ltd. (SMD) is improving, reaching 60% for VGA (640 pixels × 480 pixels), and 80% for quarter VGA (QVGA; 320 pixels × 240 pixels) screens, according to DisplaySearch's Hayase. It seems clear that the firm is steadily accumulating expertise in volume production.


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[Fig. 2 Mobile Phones and Smartphones Drive the Market]
A forecast of OLED shipment value broken down by application type.
Mobile phone (and smartphone) main displays will be the primary
growth driver through 2011, but TVs are expected to show
gradual growth from 2011.

Another Push from Lighting Applications

The emergence of the OLED lighting market is adding more wind to the sails. OLED panels offer a variety of characteristics including surface emission, transparency, thinness, and light weight, opening up potential in a host of markets that existing light sources (fluorescent, incandescent, white LED) can't touch. And that is luring a host of new companies into the market.

Manufacturers are ramping up volume production of OLED lighting. In Japan, Lumiotec Inc. plans to begin volume production in January 2010, while Konica Minolta Holdings, Inc. announced in November 2009 that it would invest 3.5 billion yen into a prototype line. Overseas, Royal Philips Electronics NV, General Electric Co., and others are planning volume production. DisplaySearch believes that the OLED lighting market will begin to take off in 2010, growing to about US$2.838 billion in 2016.

Expanding production levels for small OLED panels and increasing adoption of OLED lighting will no doubt further accelerate the development of practical large-size OLED panels. They have a number of points in common, including materials and device architecture, not to mention that expertise is being accumulated now on how to boost manufacturing yield in volume production.

Tapping into the Power of the "Eco Boom"?

Characteristics such as saving energy and ecologically sound design emerged as major dimensions for competition in flat screen TVs at the start of 2009, and this trend as well is contributing to the early commercialization of large OLED panels. In January 2009, for example, Sony announced the BRAVIA VE5 series of LCD TVs, trumpeting a 40% reduction in energy consumption from the prior model. In September 2009 Sharp Corp. released the LED AQUOS LX series with white LED backlights, emphasizing image quality and low energy consumption. Considering rising interest in the environment, it is likely this trend will continue.

One Japanese LCD engineer explains that one reason OLED panels are so hot is that "energy consumption in LCD panels has been cut about as low as it can go, due to limitations imposed by the structure itself." LCD panels use voltage to control the liquid crystal polymer, blocking the backlight light or allowing it to shine through, and making tonal display possible. The LCD has a complex structure, consisting of TFT, liquid crystal layer, color filters, two polarizer sheets, and two glass sheets, just to name the larger components, and each one increases total backlight light loss. The LCD engineer quoted above adds, "only about 5% of the backlight light actually passes through an LCD panel, and it is incredibly difficult to increase that number."

OLED panels are self-emitting devices, and have low loss because of their principle of operation. Many engineers working with them agree that a material delivering higher light emission efficiency would make it easier to reduce OLED panel power consumption, and that OLEDs will at least match the low power consumption of LCD panels, if not beat it.

Recognizing this situation, manufacturers are once again developing large OLED panels for televisions. In addition to the above-mentioned LG Display, Sony revealed in its business overview in November 2009 that it will continue to invest into developing its own displays, including OLEDs.

Samsung Electronics, the largest TV manufacturer in the world, has not disclosed plans to volume-produce large OLED panels, but subsidiary SMD is the largest company in manufacturing small OLED panels, and essentially monopolizes the active matrix OLED panel manufacturing field. In short, it probably has more knowledge about manufacturing OLED panels than anyone in the industry. Several analysts familiar with the TV field predict Samsung Electronics will modify its existing fifth-generation LCD panel line to make OLED panels for TVs.

Simple Upsizing Not the Solution

There are a number of problems that will have to be resolved before large OLED panels can be made, though, one of which is establishing volume-production technology capable of producing large panels cheaply. The lack of such a technology is the major reason why manufacturers worldwide have never shown more than prototypes when it comes to OLED panels or TVs of over 20 inches (Fig. 3). The TFTs, film growth process, etc., used in small and medium OLED panels cannot be used directly in manufacturing large OLED panels, although (as mentioned below) a few ways around the problem are emerging.


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[Fig. 3 Prototypes Only for 20-Inch and Larger OLED TVs]
TV, panel and other manufacturers have shown a variety of prototypes
for 20-inch and larger TVs at society meetings, exhibitions, etc., but
thus far the only volume-production models on the market are the
11-inch from Sony and the 15-inch from LG Electronics.


The biggest obstacle to large OLED panels is the rapid improvement in the performance of competing LCD panels, along with dropping cost and a few other factors. An engineer in the OLED field explains, "That's why it is so difficult for OLED panels to demonstrate superiority over LCD TVs with their strong points alone: image quality, thinness, etc."

Since 2007, when the push to develop large screens and high resolution (1920 pixels × 1080 pixels) tapered off, LCD panels have made significant progress in image quality, thinness, and other characteristics. Conventional cold-cathode fluorescent lamp (CCFL) backlights are being replaced by LEDs, bringing display performance up to par with that of OLED panels.

For example, most LCD TVs with direct-illumination LED backlights offer a contrast ratio of one million-to-one and color reproducibility of 100% or better of NTSC. This performance beats the 15-inch OLED TV from LG Electronics mentioned above. Using an edge light LED backlight, the thinnest part is no more than 20mm thick. While OLED TVs could offer even better specs (image quality, thinness, etc.), it is difficult to make the difference significant to potential buyers.

This is why it seems likely large OLED panels will, for now, aim at applications where they can avoid competing with LCD panels. At FPD International 2009 in October 2009, a number of such panel prototypes were exhibited (Fig. 4). LG Display and SMD jointly developed a "transparent display" that can be seen through. Transparent materials were used for both cathode and anode, and light is emitted from both sides of the panel. A staffer at LG Display explained it was intended for public applications such as digital signage.


http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/z4.jpg

[Fig. 4 LG Display and SMD Pioneering New Applications
Just for OLEDs] LG Display and SMD are developing bendable OLED
panels, transparent designs, and more. Such applications are based
on the unique advantages of OLED panels and are difficult to handle
with LCD panels.

LG Display also showed a display designed for medical applications, with high readability and an excellent contrast ratio. SMD had a smart card display, only 50µm thick and bendable. Volume production dates were not announced for either display, but considering the unique advantages of OLED panels, they seem almost certain to be commercialized.

Steady Development of Technologies for Larger Displays at Lower Cost

Technology development for larger OLED panels is also forging ahead. According to Takatoshi Tsujimura, Senior Director, OLED Systems at Kodak Japan, Ltd., panel manufacturers are "not only pursuing display performance, but also selecting technologies that are expected to achieve the highest manufacturing yield in volume production."

The keys to larger displays are TFTs that can be used to drive OLEDs and can handle the larger display area, and film growth technology capable of forming organic electroluminescent light-emitting layers at low cost and over large areas (Fig. 5).


http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100127/179684/z5.jpg

[Fig. 5 Two Major Technological Obstacles to Larger Size,
Lower Cost] There are a number of technical obstacles to achieving
larger OLED panel size at lower cost. In particular, TFT materials that
can be used with larger glass substrates and OLED device multi-layer
process technologies will have to be developed.

LG Display, already aiming to volume-produce a 40-inch display in 2012, has provided some indices for OLED panel manufacturing, relative to LCD panels of the same size. The company's Kim explains, "We plan to use fifth- and sixth-generation glass substrate in 2012, yielding two to four 40-inch panel sheets each. That should mean material costs hit 150%, with a yield of about 70%. In 2016 we'll probably use 10th-generation substrates, taking 18 40-inch sheets apiece, just like LCD panels, dropping our material costs to 70% or 80% for about the same yield."

Wide Variety of TFT Candidates

Let's take a closer look at possible ways to improve TFTs. In order to achieve reduced cost, TFTs will have to be manufactured on glass substrates the same size as the liquid crystal panels used for TVs. It is difficult to use the amorphous silicon TFTs of large LCD panels, or the low-temperature poly-silicon (LTPS) of small and medium LCD panels without some changes, though. The manufacturing process for large OLED panels is therefore being reviewed, with the most promising solutions including polycrystalline silicon TFTs made without laser annealing, and amorphous oxide semiconductor TFTs.

There are two reasons why amorphous silicon TFTs cannot be used―first, carrier mobility is only about 1cm2/Vs, making it impossible to attain satisfactory brightness. The second is that threshold voltage drifts over time, causing display variations.

LTPS TFTs, on the other hand, have a high carrier mobility of about 100cm2/Vs, and a threshold voltage drift only about one-tenth that of amorphous silicon TFTs. This is why SMD uses them in the small and medium OLED panels now in volume production, and in its 31-inch prototype. The problem with LTPS TFTs is the difficulty in making larger glass substrates. After the amorphous silicon film is formed, it must be crystallized using laser annealing, and that can increase the variation in transistor characteristics. In LCD panels, third-generation glass is the largest used.

This situation has forced panel manufacturers to move ahead with the development of new TFT materials and manufacturing processes. Concretely, they are improving the silicon TFT manufacturing process and adopting amorphous oxide semiconductors, among other things.

Sixth-Generation Glass with Silicon TFTs

The manufacturing process is being improved by finding a way to crystallize amorphous silicon without using laser annealing.

For example, the 15-inch volume-production design from LG Display, introduced above, uses a special process called solid-phase crystallization (SPC). Amorphous silicon is heated to about 700°C to create polycrystalline silicon. Carrier mobility is about 20cm2/Vs, and the threshold voltage drift is about the same as LTPS. Heat treatment does present a problem in the form of glass substrate shrinkage, but LG Display's Kim reveals they can already handle up to sixth-generation glass. This means that the firm has established volume-production technology up through about 30-inch displays. The problem now is finding a way to use eighth-generation substrates: Kim states the only way will be to develop new manufacturing equipment.

SMD, meanwhile, is developing a polycrystalline silicon TFT called super-grain silicon (SGS). A trace amount of nickel is coated onto the amorphous silicon substrate to serve as nuclei for crystal growth, and then polycrystalline silicon is formed at elevated temperatures. The company used this SGS process in a 40-inch prototype first disclosed in October 2008.

Repeatability Issues in Oxide Semiconductors

Of the amorphous semiconductors, In-Ga-Zn-O (IGZO) is thought to be the most promising TFT material for large OLEDs. IGZO TFT carrier mobility is about 10cm2/Vs, and threshold voltage drift about equal. It can be manufactured by sputtering, which is attractive because it means no major changes would be needed to make it on existing LCD panel lines. In the future, it could well be made through a coating process rather than sputtering, which would lower costs even more.

Manufacturers in Korea and Taiwan are especially interested in developing oxide semiconductor TFTs, and a number of firms showed prototype OLED panels, LCD panels, and other items at FPD International 2009. The largest screen was a 19-inch design from SMD. LG Display and AU Optronics Corp. have disclosed that they are using amorphous IGZO. The Samsung Group has not revealed what type of oxide semiconductors it is using, but has announced a number of IGZO TFT prototypes in the past and is likely to still be using IGZO.

The biggest problem with oxide semiconductors is the poor repeatability of the manufacturing process. LG Display's Kim, however, points out, "We expect the situation to improve a bit when we use heat treatment after film deposition."

White OLEDs, Front and Center

Another key to larger displays is the deposition process used for light-emitting devices. In general, there are two possibilities here: coating phosphors independently emitting red, green, and blue (RGB), or using white material with three (again, RGB) color filters.

In the small and medium OLED panels in volume production now, low-molecular phosphors are formed by vacuum deposition using a shadow mask. However, it is extremely difficult to ensure sub-pixel alignment with shadow masks. As a result, most people in the industry feel the approach cannot be used on substrates larger than fourth-generation. In addition, material utilization efficiency is low, raising costs.

Developers are now eyeing a combination of white light emitters and color filters as a way to easily obtain larger panels. Eastman Kodak Co. has been using this approach for some time now, and LG Display is also making prototypes as it prepares to acquire the firm.

In general, color filters make it unnecessary to coat phosphors, so it is much easier to increase substrate size. The only way to expand the color reproducibility range, however, is by increasing the thickness of each of the RGB layers. Color filters increase the amount of light absorbed, stealing some of the panel brightness that is such an advantage for OLEDs. The only way to ensure brightness on a par with coated designs is to boost the brightness of the white light emitted, which means higher power consumption and shorter service life. There is a trade-off between a wider color reproduction range and lower power consumption.

The 8.1-inch prototype produced by Eastman Kodak claims to have found a way around this problem while achieving a wider color reproducibility range: 100% of NTSC. Power consumption is, according to Kodak Japan's Tsujimura, "no more than 2W for the 8.1-inch display, using the latest white emitters. An LCD panel of the same size would consume about 2W to 4W, making this quite competitive." The device is a bottom emission design, with light emitted from the TFT side, so the color filters must be formed above the TFT substrate.

These performance improvements are due to two major reasons. The first is that the emission efficiency of the white material has been improved dramatically, supported by development for lighting applications. The material used by Eastman Kodak has a current conversion efficiency of about 50cd/A, which Kodak Japan's Tsujimura says represents an annual rise of 50% since 2007.

The other reason is the use of the firm's proprietary W-RGBW sub-pixel array, coupled with a modified drive scheme. Compared to the conventional design using three color filters (RGB), it delivers superior color reproducibility at lower power.

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An Outlook on 2010!! (Technology Reviews) (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=351&page=0&group=&field=&words=&mem_stat=&public_date=&list_chk=)
2 February 2010


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It was 27 years ago when Ching Tang of Eastman Kodak introduced an organic electroluminescent device using Alq3 in 1983 to trigger OLED studies. Kodak, since then, has collaborated with Sanyo, Japan to develop digital cameras and displays for mobile products and to commercialize AMOLED under the name of SK display, in 2001 for the first time in the world; a few products were introduced yet had faded away from the market, only IP-related licenses and R&D efforts have been maintained. Some suggested that the cause of OLED’s struggle in the industry during 2000s could be royalty issues with Kodak while others suggested LCD’s invincibility. In 2009 last year, Kodak handed OLED-related business over to LG Display. Technologies that are still yet to be commercialized had to be buried along with hundreds of patents. Will LG Display be able to grow OLED business with its recent major takeover? The impact is not exclusive to LG Display, it seems. Unlike Kodak running other businesses, companies running both OLED and LCD business are linked together in patent chain, which causes indirect impact on all companies in the chain.

With the world economy stagnation still in effect, the three major players in the display industry-Korea, Japan and Taiwan-went through difficult times and now are getting ready for the new year, 2010, in their own ways. In Korea, both Samsung and LG secured solid positions in the market and reached the highest LCD sales, which led to more investment on AMOLED and extension of the existing lines; the companies are planning for additional investment in 2010. Samsung Mobile Display(SMD) also contributed to introducing AMOLED to the general public through AMOLED phone marketing and LG Display(LGD) stated its plan to reach the top in TV business after taking over Kodak. Taiwan, on the other hand, suffered in LCD industry to secure competitive power only with M&As to get bigger. As Innolux took over TPO and merged CMO, AMOLED business had to be compromised in the process and it is still uncertain whether the situation turns to something positive. In Japan, SONY, the pioneer of AMOLED TV, couldn’t keep its promise for the production and no future plans have been released yet while other companies haven’t confirmed their production plans, either. The United States and Europe with no TFT base make efforts for OLED light source development hosted by the governments; existing lighting companies including GE, Philips and Osram are now actively involved in the development.

One thing that is certain in OLED business is that there is no such thing as a perfect technology. The key is how to supplement the weakness and enhance the strengths. In retrospect, there have been two dilemmas in OLED business: device performance and competitive price/larger OLEDs. There are low molecule and polymer in OLED and LTPS and a-Si in TFT; current production was made possible by the combination of low molecule and LTPS in terms of device performance. However, since major companies announced their TV production by 2012, competitive price and larger size issues have to be resolved to compete with LCD, the giant in the market, in order not to repeat SONY’s XEL. The biggest issues in OLED industry in 2010 would be development of alternative for the existing FMM method(LITI, White+CF, Printing etc), larger devices and larger TFT crystallization devices.

The functions of mobile display have been switched from audio/video play to internet access as smart phone and netbook were introduced to the market, which generated demands for displays that enable various web contents. Most of these contents are created with resolutions of VGA or higher, which requires the resolutions of the same level on mobile devices, and LCD has no problem in realizing such resolutions in small devices. OLED, on the other hand, uses fine metal mask(FMM) to realize RGB and this method is difficult to achieve VGA level resolution in 3-inch devices. According to SMD’s report, LTPS+ LCD in small applications is expected to be replaced for LTPS + OLED by 2012. To achieve high end product premium, AMOLED should focus on the above applications and the main issue is how to achieve high resolutions.

OLED development for light source is relatively flexible than other applications in terms of technology; however, due to the nature of the applications, it has to achieve two goals-efficiency and cost better than those of LED-if the focus is to develop regular light source instead of seeking smaller, more specified markets. Like larger TVs, the problem is to apply materials and processes at competitive prices and achieve sufficient efficiency. GE and Dupont suggest solution materials and web process are the only ways to have competitive prices. One can expect that SMD could enter light source market with relatively strong competitive power by its various cost-saving tips with its low molecular deposition technology since the company shows yield that is close to 100%.

Many companies made announcements last year on extension of mobile product market and TV/lighting product production in 2011~2012. Milestones that seemed so far away are now about to come true; how to operate which strategies during this 1~2-year time will be the key to success. Overall success, not limited to that of one specific company, is the only way to secure solid position in the competition with LCD and LED. Therefore year 2010 will be an important year for all OLED companies to make decisions and growth.

Mitsubishi Chemical and Pioneer disclosed Tuesday that they have entered into a technology and capital alliance on their OLED lighting businesses, which will strengthen their company relations. Read about it here: http://www.twice.com/article/448393-Pioneer_Mitsubishi_Chemical_Ink_OLED_Lighting_Alliance.php?r ssid=20312

I assume that OLED TVs will come out of this alliance.

I assume that OLED TVs will come out of this alliance.

The article talks exclusively about OLED lighting appliances and nothing about display devices. It's about using Mitsubishi's fabrication process at Pioneer's fabricating plants, making tons of panels and splitting the profits. OLED displays are a fair bit more complicated than OLED lights, too...

technologyreview.com/computing/24520/?a=f
Making OLED Displays Cheaper
February 11, 2010

A startup in Menlo Park, CA, hopes to bring down the cost of these high-performance displays by making equipment for printing them on a large scale. Kateeva is testing a prototype large-area OLED printer that it will send to display manufacturers for testing next year. According to the company, its equipment can be used to print OLED displays for 60 percent of the cost of LCDs.

Video: technologyreview.com/video/?vid=525

New user here. Links won't work yet...

I, for one, look forward with great anticipation the arrival of OLED lighting. I'd LOVE to use it for under counter lighting when we redo our kitchen.

Sony says to end OLED TV sales in Japan
Saw this article and I wonder what does this mean for the US market ..

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE61F00H20100216?type=marketsNews

Well, it doesn't surprise me that there's no demand for a $2200 11" screen, no matter how good it might be.

Maybe they decided better to let Samsung and LG burn money trying to make it happen.

Price rules quality so if OLED can't be price/cost competitive, quality is moot.

All the more reason to have a Kuro 9th Gen for the foreseeable future. OLED looks to be on shaky ground.

endgadgetHD reports LG 15" OLED to begin shipping in May to Europe and this summer to US http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/28/lgs-15-inch-15el9500-oled-tv-sets-sail-for-europe-scheduled-to/

who wants to spend 2200 on an 11" display that doesnt support HD?

so when will the 20" be hitting us? ive been wating forever for SED and now it seems like OLED is slowing down.

03/04/2010

OLEDNet (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=357&page=0&group=&field=&words=&mem_stat=&public_date=&list_chk=)has published an OLED market forecast for 2010-2016. Basically the say that during 2010, Samsung will introduce 5" and 7" AMOLEDs, and LG Display will produce 2.7" AMOLED for digital cameras, 3.5" WVGA for mobile phones and 4.3" OLEDs for portable TVS. Toshiba Mobile Displays (TMD) will begin AMOLED small panel production during 2010 as well.

http://www.oled-info.com/files/images/olednet-oled-production-2007-2016.jpg

Toshiba, Matsushita and Hitachi are all expected to introduce 20"-40" OLED TV panels as early as 2011. AUO will begin mass production in 2011, too.

via OLED-Info (http://www.oled-info.com/olednet-published-their-oled-market-forecast-2010-2016)
Source OLEDNet (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=357&page=0&group=&field=&words=&mem_stat=&public_date=&list_chk=)

who wants to spend 2200 on an 11" display that doesnt support HD?

so when will the 20" be hitting us? ive been wating forever for SED and now it seems like OLED is slowing down.

From the chart above, >20" OLED TVs might be released next year! :) It looks like 55" OLED TVs might start shipping in 5 years! ;) So, still away off... :(

Some website compared a Nexus One and an iPhone and the N1 had horrible banding on some images.

Before they move to bigger screen sizes, they have to at least improve the image quality and power consumption of OLEDs.

Some website compared a Nexus One and an iPhone and the N1 had horrible banding on some images.

Before they move to bigger screen sizes, they have to at least improve the image quality and power consumption of OLEDs.

The PenTile pixel structure of the OLED display inside the Nexus One is not representative of all OLED displays:

http://www.displayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/samsung_oled_pentile_matrix_comparison.jpg

http://www.displayblog.com/2009/03/26/samsung-oled-pentile-matrix-next-iphone-oled-display/

http://www.displayblog.com/2010/01/20/nexus-one-pentile-matrix-oled-display/

:)

The banding and pixel structure issues were not a problem for the XEL-1:
http://reviews.cnet.com/oled/sony-xel-1-oled/4505-13948_7-32815284.html

http://hdguru.com/sony-xel-1-finally-a-critical-review/242/

We'll see how the LG 15EL9500 looks when it is released later this year! :) Perhaps Sony will finally release their 1080p 27" model in 2011!

Hey guys, I have a tech question about OLED. One of the biggest problems with LCD computer monitors, and yet it rarely gets mentioned, I guess because most computer users (game players particularly) are unaware what an impact it has on them, is that it's my understanding that an LCD computer monitor has to be run at it's maximum (native) resolution all the time. Or else there are visual artifacts (defects) of one sort or the other that are introduced to the image if you try to run at a lower resolution than the monitor's full native resolution, is that correct?

If so, that's one great thing about a CRT monitor, you can choose any resolution you like (not just the maximum res the monitor supports) and they all look great, no visual artifacts in the image, the only thing that changes (obviously) is the resolution available on the screen depending on which res you choose to run the monitor at. This helps a lot when you are running games, as you take a huge frames-per-second performance hit in games when you run at very high resolutions (like with an LCD monitor). This means you have to upgrade your computer much more often to keep the frame rates in the latest most graphically intense games running smoothly at these very high resolutions. And that costs a lot of money needlessly.

I see that the first laptop OLED computer monitors are due out this year. I think they will be around 15 or 17 inches. And that means that desktop models will not be far behind, that's what I'm looking forward to, the larger desktop models. And this brings me to the OLED technical question. I don't think I've ever seen definite confirmation on this yet. Can an OLED computer monitor be used at a resolution lower than it's maximum (native) resolution while keeping the on-screen image free from any visual defects?

Like, for example, let's say the OLED monitor is a 19 inch 4:3 model and it has a maximum (native) resolution of 1600x1200. Could I run this OLED monitor at 1024x768 or 1280x960 if I wanted to and games would still look perfect (no visual artifact penalty for not running the games at 1600x1200)? You can do this easily on a CRT monitor, what about an OLED monitor?

Also, what's the latest word on when these desktop OLED monitors might be available? Will they all be 16x9 widescreen or maybe also some 4:3 models?

Thanks for any info. :)

Dunedain,

That's a very good question, I'd like to know the answer also if anyone knows.

Chuck

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Like, for example, let's say the OLED monitor is a 19 inch 4:3 model and it has a maximum (native) resolution of 1600x1200. Could I run this OLED monitor at 1024x768 or 1280x960 if I wanted to and games would still look perfect (no visual artifact penalty for not running the games at 1600x1200)? You can do this easily on a CRT monitor, what about an OLED monitor?
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You seem to be asking whether OLEDs are fixed-pixel displays, is that right?

If so the answer is a definite yes.

walt73: Well, they may technically be fixed-pixel displays, and I think LCD's are also considered this type of display, but you don't *have* to run LCD's at full native resolution all the time. But I've heard there are artifacts if you don't run them at their full res.

The question is, have OLED monitors overcome this problem, can you run an OLED computer monitor at less than it's full resolution without visual defects being introduced into the image? Are they capable of this like a CRT monitor is?

OLED has a continuous pixel count just like LCD and Plasma. Please, forget the CRT days as far as resolution fexibility is concerned.

If OLED or LCD or Plasma look bad when fed with a non-std resolution, get a better scaler, but keep in mind that a scaler, no matter how good it may be, can not even approach to the crispness of a perfect non-scaled feed.

Crap pc monitors have crap scalers, thus the typical gaming problem when rendering at lower resolutions (Blurryness)

Daviii: That's certainly bad news, makes one wish that SED monitors would come out. :) So you're saying that a high-end LCD or SED computer monitor will be able to scale a game actually running at less than the monitor's maximum resolution up to the monitor's native resolution without blurring artifacts and so on?

Any 19 inch LCD monitors out there that meet this standard of quality scaler (very fast response time also mandatory for games)?

The forcast table in post no. 1428 shows CMEL 7.6" amoled as having been in mass production since late 2008. Is it a photo frame? How is it branded? Can I turn a photo frame into a portable tv? Thank you in advanve.

Nanometer Graphene can be used to make better and cheaper large-area OLEDs (http://www.olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=360)
11 March 2010

http://www.olednet.co.kr/img/focuson/10_03/100311_01.jpg

Graphene OLED

http://pubs.acs.org/appl/literatum/publisher/achs/journals/production/ancac3/2010/ancac3.2010.4.issue-1/nn900728d/images/large/nn-2009-00728d_0005.jpeg

Graphene OLED

Researchers at Stanford University have successfully developed a brand new concept of OLEDs with a few nanometer of graphene as transparent conductor. This paved the way for inexpensive mass production of OLEDs on large-area low-cost flexible plastic substrate, which could be rolled up like wallpaper and virtually applied to anywhere you want. The researchers say that Graphene has the potential to be transparent, high-performance, highly conductive and cheaper by several orders of magnitude than current ITO based solutions. Interestingly just a few weeks ago we reported that Graphene can be used to make organic lighting devices (http://www.oled-info.com/graphene-used-create-alternative-oled-lighting), too.

Traditionally, indium tin oxide (ITO) is used in OLEDs, but indium is rare, expensive and difficult to recycle. Scientists have been actively searching for an alternative candidate.

The next generation of optoelectronic devices requires transparent conductive electrodes to be lightweight, flexible, cheap, environmental attractive, and compatible with large-scale manufacturing methods. Graphene (a single layer of graphite) is becoming a very promising candidate due to its unique electrical and optical properties. Very recently, Junbo Wu et al., researchers at Stanford University, successfully demonstrated the application of graphene in OLEDs for the first time.

Junbo Wu, leading researcher of the development, said that they achieved OLEDs on graphene with performance similar to a control device on conventional ITO transparent anodes, which is very exciting and promising for real-world applications. Because graphene is only a couple of nanometers thick, it can give device designers more freedom.

For detailed information on this research, please refer to: Organic Light-Emitting Diodes on Solution-Processed Graphene Transparent Electrodes (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/nn900728d)

Daviii: That's certainly bad news, makes one wish that SED monitors would come out. :) So you're saying that a high-end LCD or SED computer monitor will be able to scale a game actually running at less than the monitor's maximum resolution up to the monitor's native resolution without blurring artifacts and so on?

Any 19 inch LCD monitors out there that meet this standard of quality scaler (very fast response time also mandatory for games)?

No, all scaling will reduce image quality especially for games. This is because it is fractional. You can't really have 1.5 pixels only 2 or 1 for example so images are blended across pixels which causes a bit of fuzzyness. Movies don't suffer as bad as they aren't as sharp as games.

DaveC19: One partial solution might be to run a wide-screen LCD or OLED monitor in 4:3 mode, running with black pillars down both sides.

For example, take a 24 inch LCD (or OLED, when they become available) with a native res of 1920x1200. Then run it in 4:3 mode, where only the central 1600x1200 pixels are used for displaying images. Then you can run a game at 1600x1200, with no up-scaling of the image necessary, because the monitor knows to only use the middle 1600x1200 pixels of the panel for the image, which is exactly what the game is outputting to the monitor, 1600x1200.

This has several benefits. One is that if the game was designed to run in 4:3 mode, you don't have to deal with any ugly horizontal stretching of the image. Secondly, since you are running the game at 1600x1200, as opposed to 1920x1200, you should get a nice boost in frame-rate. And because 1600x1200 res is high, but within reason, you can probably get away with running the game at this 4:3 virtual native resolution and still get decent frame-rates. And thus you don't have to resort to running the game at lower than 1600x1200 res to get higher frame-rates and then suffering with these up-scaling artifacts.

Can you run a 24 inch 1920x1200 LCD like this, in 4:3 mode (monitor does not use the 160 pixels on the left and right sides of the monitor, they are off/black all the time, only sends images to be displayed within the central 1600x1200 pixels, and all games run at 1600x1200 need no up-scaling)?

OLED should not be unknowingly worshipped but its PQ looked with sober, cold head. In the evaluation of smartphone screens (http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20000582-85.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0)OLED were showing significant weaknesses, giving up to the LCD in the overall score. Here is the glaring list of weaknesses:

instead of delivering accurate, natural colors, oversaturates them, resulting in glaring color tint problems and inaccurate color reproduction. For example, red could possibly be confused with orange. Also, false contouring is apparent, lending evidence to a lack of 24-bit color support, and the extreme outdoor reflectance makes it difficult to operate on sunny days. Though some may prefer the screen's ability to make colors pop in games and its high contrast ratio, don't expect any natural color reproduction.

Plagued by various color inaccuracies, oversaturation, color tint problems, and an inability to legibly display gray and white text on a black background,

With such impressive list of problems there is a loong way for OLED to compete with LCD just on PQ, without even mentioning the price. Yeah, OLED black level is like a black hole, but anything brighter is unreal:D

Could it be that some panels were rushed out, to ride the hype and capitalize on the mobile devices market, despite the problems with PQ, power consumption, poor daylight visibility?

Or it's more than a problem of immature technology, rather inherent flaws in OLED which are now coming to the surface?

Could it be that some panels were rushed out, to ride the hype and capitalize on the mobile devices market, despite the problems with PQ, power consumption, poor daylight visibility?

Or it's more than a problem of immature technology, rather inherent flaws in OLED which are now coming to the surface?

The Nexus One seems to be an example of "keepin' it OLED goes wrong". The pentile OLED seems like a bad idea, and other sources have already indicated that the OLED implementation (HW and drivers) were sub-standard. It seems Samsung Super AMOLED screens should be greatly improved, especially when it's speculated that Apple might source Samsungs Super AMOLED screens for the next iteration of the iPhone... :)

OLED should not be unknowingly worshipped but its PQ looked with sober, cold head. In the evaluation of smartphone screens (http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20000582-85.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0)OLED were showing significant weaknesses, giving up to the LCD in the overall score. Here is the glaring list of weaknesses:

instead of delivering accurate, natural colors, oversaturates them, resulting in glaring color tint problems and inaccurate color reproduction. For example, red could possibly be confused with orange. Also, false contouring is apparent, lending evidence to a lack of 24-bit color support, and the extreme outdoor reflectance makes it difficult to operate on sunny days. Though some may prefer the screen's ability to make colors pop in games and its high contrast ratio, don't expect any natural color reproduction.

Plagued by various color inaccuracies, oversaturation, color tint problems, and an inability to legibly display gray and white text on a black background,

With such impressive list of problems there is a loong way for OLED to compete with LCD just on PQ, without even mentioning the price. Yeah, OLED black level is like a black hole, but anything brighter is unreal:D

HTC Nexus One by Google 800x480 pixels
225 cd/M2 (At most) 0.0049cd/m2 (At Least) 46,000:1

Do you know what I see here? I see contrast like I've never seen before, on any display.

Color inaccuracies should be an easy fix. Contrast ratio? Look to Plasma and LCD tech, and you'll see that isn't so easy :)

The CR on the 3GS is laughable compared to the Droid, though.

Video may look much better on a smart phone with an AMOLED screen (unless you're out in the sunlight apparently) but for text and viewing the web or running other computer graphics, current smart phones with AMOLED seem to fall short of smart phones with LCD.

It was posted earlier in this thread that it won't be until 2012 where AMOLED catches up to LCD on power consumption, for instance.

Video may look much better on a smart phone with an AMOLED screen (unless you're out in the sunlight apparently) but for text and viewing the web or running other computer graphics, current smart phones with AMOLED seem to fall short of smart phones with LCD.

You speak as if there's hardly any pq-difference among OLED displays.

Here's a brightness comparison between Samsung's new AMOLED screen and the one used in Nexus One.
http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Samsung-Wave-S8500-Google-Nexus-One-AMOLED-display-3.jpg

Wow.

What's the biggest OLED set currently being sold to real people in the real world?

What will be the biggest OLED set sold to real people in the real world come Christmas 2010?

What's the biggest OLED set currently being sold to real people in the real world?

The LG 15EL9500.

What will be the biggest OLED set sold to real people in the real world come Christmas 2010?

Unless LG, Sony, or Samsung decide to surprise us, the LG 15EL9500.

I'm always baffled by the "but when is it going to be this big for this price" type of questions. Are you not excited by the different developments with this display tech? Unless handset mfgs decide to switch BACK to LCD displays (obsurd - not happening), the OLED tech as a whole will continue to evolve and improve (e.g. Super AMOLED pwns previous gen pentile AMOLED).

What will the main trend for TVs at CES 2011? If it's not 3D TV part 2, it might very well be OLED TVs.... two years too late IMO... :p ;)

You speak as if there's hardly any pq-difference among OLED displays.

Here's a brightness comparison between Samsung's new AMOLED screen and the one used in Nexus One.
http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Samsung-Wave-S8500-Google-Nexus-One-AMOLED-display-3.jpg

+1. People don't seem to understand... though if Apple does use the Super AMOLED display in the iPhone 4G, perception should be corrected. :)

AUO will start installing new OLED production equipment in 3Q 2010 (http://www.oled-info.com/auo-will-start-installing-new-oled-production-equipment-3q-2010)

03/24/2010

AU Optronics is on track to start mass-producing small and medium AMOLED panels in 2011, and will start installing new production equipment in 3Q 2010. The OLED line will be remodeled from the company's idle 3.5G LTPS (low-temperature polysilicon) equipment. AUO has already announced plans to recuit new employees for the OLED production plant.

http://www.oled-info.com/files/images/auo-14-inch-oled-tv-prototype.jpg
AUO 14-inch OLED prototype

Source Digitimes (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100324PD210.html)

via OLED-Info (http://www.oled-info.com/auo-will-start-installing-new-oled-production-equipment-3q-2010)

OLED should not be unknowingly worshipped but its PQ looked with sober, cold head. In the evaluation of smartphone screens (http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20000582-85.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0)OLED were showing significant weaknesses, giving up to the LCD in the overall score. Here is the glaring list of weaknesses:

instead of delivering accurate, natural colors, oversaturates them, resulting in glaring color tint problems and inaccurate color reproduction. For example, red could possibly be confused with orange. Also, false contouring is apparent, lending evidence to a lack of 24-bit color support, and the extreme outdoor reflectance makes it difficult to operate on sunny days. Though some may prefer the screen's ability to make colors pop in games and its high contrast ratio, don't expect any natural color reproduction.

Plagued by various color inaccuracies, oversaturation, color tint problems, and an inability to legibly display gray and white text on a black background,

With such impressive list of problems there is a loong way for OLED to compete with LCD just on PQ, without even mentioning the price. Yeah, OLED black level is like a black hole, but anything brighter is unreal:D

Nonsense.

OLED is just a series of red, green, and blue emmiters. It is up to the electronics to produce an accurate image. The only color problem I could see is with the relatively weak blue emmiters. So blue may not be as deep as on an LCD. That wasn't mentioned though.

LCDs don't display well in the direct sun either unless they are transreflective. If they are transreflective their black level, color saturation, and contrast suck (look at an iPhone).

I have seen the Sony OLEd and it had none of those problems.

Nonsense.
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I have seen the Sony OLED and it had none of those problems.

Yeah, it's hard for people to appreciate OLED if they haven't spent some time with the XEL-1. :) Superb motion (>PDP/LCD), colors that truly pop (even if they are not Rec 709 accurate), and uncanny black level - all of which have been noted in every review I've found. Too bad the size and price are prohibitive for most. Not to say everything was perfect, but that this pilot line of OLED TV does not have the problems that LCDs and PDPs have been struggling to improve from year to year (black level, motion, ect).

I don't think size questions are unreasonable. Until OLED can get above 50-inches and people can buy it--who cares?

How about this question: What will be the largest OLED that someone can buy and watch the 2012 Olympics on?

Will OLED break the 50-inch barrier by the 2016 Olympics?

How about by the 2014 winter olympics?

When will OLED not be pie in the sky?

I don't think size questions are unreasonable. Until OLED can get above 50-inches and people can buy it--who cares?


You seem to care! Keep checking back and your size concerns will be answered in time. ;)

LG Display 15 inch 15el9500 ready for pre-order at Amazon.de
March 29, 2010

http://www.oled-display.net/lg-display-15-inch-15el9500-ready-for-pre-order-at-amazonde

http://www.oled-display.net/files/u2/1267181251308EL9500_1-300.jpg

The 15 inch OLED-Television from LG 15EL9500
is now ready to pre-order at Amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003CJWTIM?ie=UTF8&tag=oled-shop-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1638&creative=6742&creativeASIN=B003CJWTIM). The device ist shipment ready in 2-3 weeks and costs 1.999,00 Euros.

The LG EL9500 has a 15" OLED panel with 1366x768 resolution, 100,000:1 contrast and a response time that is lower than 0.01 msec. It's only 1.7mm thick.

The AMOLED-TV does have a amazing picture quality.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2442/4355468179_2277bb8861.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4355468285_b9d131ff11.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4356221470_00a3a89c76.jpg

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Bump OLED screen size up to life and then maybe someone will care.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/15-9500-HDready-DVB-T-100Hz/dp/B003CJWTIM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270856342&sr=8-1

£1,746.50 -> ~$1,750 USD!

Can't wait..! ;)

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By the time an affordable 55 inch OLED is available (if ever), 55 inch LCDs will be under $1,000.

9 out of 10 TVs sold now are LCDs, with most of the rest being Plasma. Prices are still going down on LCDs and the huge number of LCD panels shipped is only going to continue to bring down the price of LCD.

Maybe 10 years from now, we will be able to get a 55 inch OLED for less than $4,000.

oled tv is not for sale as lcd/reflective tv is the way agreed upon on. oled is a direct transmission technology and that is not marketed right now, reflective technology in displays is marketed.

they have the technology but they say too much to build fabs. same foe sed, too much money. more like sed is too much a diret transmission tech making reflective tech look like a childs toy.

DaveC19: One partial solution might be to run a wide-screen LCD or OLED monitor in 4:3 mode, running with black pillars down both sides.

For example, take a 24 inch LCD (or OLED, when they become available) with a native res of 1920x1200. Then run it in 4:3 mode, where only the central 1600x1200 pixels are used for displaying images. Then you can run a game at 1600x1200, with no up-scaling of the image necessary, because the monitor knows to only use the middle 1600x1200 pixels of the panel for the image, which is exactly what the game is outputting to the monitor, 1600x1200.

This has several benefits. One is that if the game was designed to run in 4:3 mode, you don't have to deal with any ugly horizontal stretching of the image. Secondly, since you are running the game at 1600x1200, as opposed to 1920x1200, you should get a nice boost in frame-rate. And because 1600x1200 res is high, but within reason, you can probably get away with running the game at this 4:3 virtual native resolution and still get decent frame-rates. And thus you don't have to resort to running the game at lower than 1600x1200 res to get higher frame-rates and then suffering with these up-scaling artifacts.

Can you run a 24 inch 1920x1200 LCD like this, in 4:3 mode (monitor does not use the 160 pixels on the left and right sides of the monitor, they are off/black all the time, only sends images to be displayed within the central 1600x1200 pixels, and all games run at 1600x1200 need no up-scaling)?


Hmm, a question even the t.v./monitor techies at AVS don't know the answer to? Surely not! :)

oled tv is not for sale as lcd/reflective tv is the way agreed upon on. oled is a direct transmission technology and that is not marketed right now, reflective technology in displays is marketed.

they have the technology but they say too much to build fabs. same foe sed, too much money. more like sed is too much a diret transmission tech making reflective tech look like a childs toy.

Actually, I believe OLED sales are in the millions. They're just used for small screens today, say 1"-4". Ramping up to larger sizes is in progress; technology marches on, perhaps a bit slowly.

NAB: Sony Debuts $3,850 Professional 7.4-inch OLED Monitor (http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/04/12/nab-sony-debuts-3850-professional-7-4-inch-oled-monitor/)
April 12th, 2010

http://ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebServices/RetrievePublicAsset/StepID/SEL-asset-209086/600x407

Product Page:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-PVM740/

The PVM 740 is another leap in Sony imaging technology. Using the new OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) technology, blacks are black. Contrast is mesmerizing and your picture never looked so good. Incorporating Sony’s “STE” (Super Top Emission) structure, the PVM 740 can display extremely wide gamut colors and repel panel glare so that "on set" or "in the field" viewing is simple and accurate. The PVM 740 also includes other features that make it the favorite for view and framing camera images. The new “Flip” feature can swap the image horizontally, vertically, or combined so that over and under 3D rig viewing is a simple push of a button. The SD/HD/3G input is not an option so even display of HD 60P images is a snap.

The chassis is made of cast aluminum for durable in field use and includes a protection panel for the OLED so that rough handling has no effect on performance. The small size of the PVM 740 allows usage in various applications including ENG/EFP, OB Van, Editing Systems, and Monitor Walls. By employing a 960 x 540 16:9 OLED panel, contrast is as never seen before and image lag is a thing of the past. Picture quality is excellent both indoors and outdoors. Additionally the PVM 740 incorporates Sony’s ChromaTru color processing which allows the PVM 740 to accurately display images as SMPTE, EBU or ITU-R BT709 color standards. The PVM 740 comes standard with one composite, one auto detecting SDI/HDSDI/3G input. One HDMI input, internal waveform monitor, AC power adapter, and ¼ and 3/8 holes for camera mounting.

PVM-740 Brochure:
http://ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebServices/RetrievePublicAsset/StepID/SEL-asset-219278/original/PVM-740_Brochure_V1.pdf


Quick Response with Blur-free Motion
Because the OLED electroluminescent layer inherently responds to any electrical current input, it emits light immediately. By this mechanism, excellent quick response characteristics can be achieved in fast-motion images. This effi cient blur-free, fast response benefi ts a variety of applications and scenes, e.g., in sports broadcasting, monitoring of camera panning, and text scrolling.
...
Detachable AR (anti-refl ection) -coated Protection Panel
AR-coated protection panel keeps the LCD panel surface from scratch. Added to this, the AR coating has two unique characteristics: it provides a high transmission rate of the internal light source to keep the picture as bright as possible, and it keeps refl ection from ambient light to a minimum. As a result, when used in bright lighting conditions, high contrast is still maintained even in dark areas of the picture.
...
Sophisticated I/P Conversion
PVM-740 uses a motion-adaptive I/P-conversion process to achieve conversion results that are optimized to the picture content – whether the image is static or dynamic. Highly accurate I/P conversion of both HD and SD inputs is provided regardless of signal resolution.

I/P Mode Selection
PVM-740 provides three I/P modes so that users can select
the most suitable mode for each purpose:
INTER-FIELD: This mode interpolates images between fields.
This is used for picture quality precedence (e.g., to reduce
jagged effect on moving pictures).
FIELD MERGE: This mode combines lines alternately in odd
and even fields, regardless of picture movements. This is
used for PsF (Progressive Segmented Frames) processing
and still image monitoring.
LINE DOUBLER: This mode interpolates by repeating
each line. This is used for editing and monitoring fastmoving
images, and checking line flicker. The minimum
processing time is less than one field (0.5 frames).


Press Release:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/BroadcastandBusiness/minisites/NAB2010/docs/pr_pvm740.pdf

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
SONY UNVEILS FIRST OLED PROFESSIONAL FIELD MONITOR
LAS VEGAS (NAB Booth C11001) April 11, 2010 – Sony is bringing the stunning technology that revolutionized consumer displays to its line of professional monitors. The new PVM-740 is the first field display to use an Organic Light-Emitting Diode (OLED) display panel with Sony’s unique Super Top Emission™ technology to efficiently deliver superb high contrast, high color images, even in ambient light.

The 7.4-inch high-resolution (960 x 540 pixels) portable monitor can fit a range of professional monitoring applications, including studio editing, ENG and EFT production, OB trucks, and even research and development. The versatile new monitor is also ideal for use in 3D camera rigs with its flip mode.
The display panel creates smooth gradation from the dark to the bright portions of scenes such as a sunrise or a sunset. The PVM-740 offers outstanding high-contrast images – for example, the deep black of a night scene can be accurately displayed and the black portion of an image is not raised even in a low-illumination edit suite. Its blur-free, quick response to fast motion is perfect for sports or camera monitoring during panning and text scrolling.

The monitor can flip a picture horizontally or vertically without frame delay. This feature is useful during 3D image acquisition using a 3D rig camera with a pair of 2D monitors. The monitor can be connected to the camera systems directly without need for an external signal converter, making system integration simpler.

Its picture contrast is greater than a CRT display, is less affected by ambient light, allowing clear images to be viewed even in strong sunlight. For further protection, the optional VF-510 ENG kit provides a viewing hood, carrying handle, and connector protector.

An AR coating provides protection from scratches and enables a high transmission rate of the internal light source to keep the picture as bright as possible, while keeping reflection from ambient light to a minimum. As a result, when used in bright lighting conditions, high contrast is still maintained even in dark areas of the picture.

Sony’s unique 10-bit panel driver and ChromaTRU™ technologies work effectively to emulate colors and gammas of CRT monitors, and to support broadcast standards (SMPTE-C, EBU, and ITU-R BT.709).
The new monitor also adds DC/AC operations, a convenient control panel with luminous and assignable buttons, a camera focus function, a wave form monitor, 8-channel audio level meter, a variety marker setting, and native scanning capabilities.

The PVM-740 monitor is also equipped with a Sony’s unique feed-back circuit system. This system works to monitor the emitted lights all the time, and feed the monitor-result back and adjust the white balance. It also ensures color and gamma stability.

The PVM-740 is 3.8U high and half-rack wide. Using the optional MB-531 mounting bracket with a 10-degree-forward and 10-degree-backward nonstop-tilt capability, two units can be installed side by side in a 19-inch EIA standard rack. With 3/8-inch and 1/4-inch screw holes on its base, the PVM-740 can be installed in a camera system on a pedestal, for example.
The PVM-740 can display a center marker and aspect markers, and the brightness of these markers can be selected from either gray or dark gray levels. Users can also select a gray matte to fill the outer area of the aspect markers.

A unique native scan function reproduces images without changing the input signal’s pixel count – mapping the pixel of the input signal on the panel pixel-to-pixel. For example, when an SD signal is input, the monitor reproduces the image at picture sizes of 646 x 487 pixels in 480i and 480p, and 768 x 540 pixels in 575i and 576p. When an HD signal is input, the PVM-740 displays a center portion of the HD image.

The PVM-740 is equipped with standard interface connectors: a composite video, a 3G/HD/SD-SDI, and an HDMI interface.

It accepts most SD or HD video formats. For extra mobility, it incorporates various video interfaces as standard, including composite, SDI interface for SD-SDI, HD-SDI, 3G-SDI, and HDMI interface. With the 3G-SDI interface, it accepts 1080/50p and 1080/60p formats, which is compliant with the SMPTE 425 standard, transmitting up to 4:2:2/10-bit 1080/60p and 1080/50p video data using one SDI cable. As sports and live production move toward a 1080p system, this single-link 3G-SDI system can be an ideal solution.

HDMI connectivity further expands the monitor’s potential applications. For example, the PVM-740 monitor can connect with professional video systems such as Sony’s XDCAM HD®, XDCAM EX™, NXCAM™, and HDV™ series. Consumer video products such as Blu-ray Disc™ and digital cameras can also be connected, ideal for Blu-ray video authoring or digital photo image previews.

The new monitor is planned to be available in April, at a suggested list price of $3,850.

:p ;)

Hmm, a question even the t.v./monitor techies at AVS don't know the answer to? Surely not! :)

Dunedain... yes, you can. Even my little 1024x600 netbook has no qualms about running its display at 800x600.

While this can often be done on a monitor's OSD menu, more often people will use their video drivers to determine how scaling is to be performed. Not sure about ATi cards, but my old Nvidia card would let you pick between full-screen scaling, fixed-aspect-ratio scaling, and no scaling where the game's image would be centered on the screen regardless of resolution. I haven't really bothered trying to do this on my ATi card because it doesn't really have trouble rendering at 1920x1200 :P

Also, you mentioned earlier that you thought SED would be able to scale content perfectly, but this isn't the case. Every display that has a fixed number of pixels (LCD, plasma, OLED, SED, etc) will be forced to scale content that's not at the display's native resolution. CRTs escaped this problem by sweeping an electron beam across a phosphor screen and didn't have individual pixels, per se, and could adapt to any resolution... but that came at a price (geometry issues, etc).

CDT kicks ITO off OLED substrates (http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2010/04/07/48363/cdt-kicks-ito-off-oled-substrates.htm)
7 April 2010

OLED firm Cambridge Display Technology (CDT) has eliminated expensive indium tin oxide (ITO) from organic lighting panels, replacing it with a fine copper mesh.

"This demonstration has shown the potential for patterned metal tracking using electroless metal deposition as a replacement for both ITO and traditional sputtered tracking," said CDT. "ITO is widely used as a transparent conductor in the displays, lighting and photovoltaics industries, but is in short supply and expensive."

ITO is also brittle and prone to cracking, particularly on flexible substrates

The copper mesh is not etched, but deposited using a process developed by Conductive Inkjet Technology (CIT), a subsidiary of optics firm Carclo.

CIT prints a pattern of catalyst on the substrate, which causes copper to be laid-down when it is immersed in a metal-containing solution.

Copper tracks under 10µm have been deposited on glass "resulting in a highly transparent, highly conductive surface without the voltage drops of ITO-based technologies," claimed CDT. "By applying a conductive polymer to these grids, a true ITO replacement has been demonstrated."

Jim Veninger is general manager at CDT.

"While further development is required, I can see CIT's technology supporting processes for OLED lighting in the near future," he said.

The results have come from a project called Nomad, which includes both CDT and CIT, and is part-funded by the Government's Technology Strategy Board.

"We are extremely happy with the progress made in this project, and to see that this new approach may soon be ready for commercial exploitation in OLED lighting. This is yet another great example of world class businesses coming together in the UK to develop innovative technology with global market potential," said the TSB's lead electronics technologist Mike Biddle.

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Carclo unit and CDT demonstrate ITO-free lighting panel (http://www.bfnnews.com/display/?id=3817758)
7 April 2010

Cambridge Display Technology has produced an innovative OLED lighting product using technology by Carclo's Conductive Inkjet Technology subsidiary.

CDT has produced an ITO-free P-OLED lighting device using a fine copper mesh.

The work was enabled by its work with Conductive Inkjet Technology and their joint 'NOMAD' project funded by the government-backed Technology Strategy Board.

NOMAD started in 2007 with the aim of developing technology for the next generation of low-cost OLED devices by combining advanced manufacturing methods with state-of-the-art polymer OLED materials (P-OLEDs).

The demonstration has shown the potential for patterned metal tracking using electroless metal deposition as a replacement for both Indium Tin Oxide and traditional sputtered tracking.

ITO is widely used as a transparent conductor in the displays, lighting and photovoltaics industries, but is in short supply and expensive.

Samsung has confirmed that they're building a 5.5G OLED plant with 1300x1500 mm substrates. This supports much larger OLED panels than the current 3.5G plant.

Operational from January 2011.

More info: Samsung confirms 5.5G OLED plant, larger OLED (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1271769706)

Samsung has confirmed that they're building a 5.5G OLED plant with 1300x1500 mm substrates. This supports much larger OLED panels than the current 3.5G plant.

Operational from January 2011.

More info: Samsung confirms 5.5G OLED plant, larger OLED (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1271769706)

Nice. Hopefully we'll see some real progress early next year (tablets, notebooks, 32" TV's?). At the moment OLED seems to be stuck at 3.x" phones.

Speaking of AMOLED technology in cell phones, the HTC Incredible from Verizon hits the market at the end of the month and it too, has an OLED screen. I'll be pre-ordering mine tomorrow. Based on the reviews that I have read, the screen on the HTC Incredible is more impressive than that of the Nexus One. That is definitely promising considering how shameful the Nexus One screen performs when compared with the Samsung. Only time will tell. I'll have my HTC Incredible April 29th.

Speaking of AMOLED technology in cell phones, the HTC Incredible from Verizon hits the market at the end of the month and it too, has an OLED screen. I'll be pre-ordering mine tomorrow. Based on the reviews that I have read, the screen on the HTC Incredible is more impressive than that of the Nexus One. That is definitely promising considering how shameful the Nexus One screen performs when compared with the Samsung. Only time will tell. I'll have my HTC Incredible April 29th.

From the reviews I've seen, the AMOLED display in the Incredible is the same as the Nexus One.

From the reviews I've seen, the AMOLED display in the Incredible is the same as the Nexus One.

Based on the CNET review (http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/htc-droid-incredible-verizon/4505-6454_7-34064029.html?tag=mncol;lst;1), the Incredible's screen displays "more vibrant colors" than the Nexus One, which is encouraging. I'll know more when I get it next week. I know I've read a couple other items that have mentioned that the Incredible seems to out duel the Nexus One in terms of it's screen, but I can't track them down at the moment.

I wonder if the next iPhone has OLED. Apple lost one to the "wild" and it's been written up as having a better screen than the 3GS.

I wonder if the next iPhone has OLED. Apple lost one to the "wild" and it's been written up as having a better screen than the 3GS.

Well, here's a comparison of the Apple iPhone to the Samsung S8500 (LCD vs Super AMOLED):

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So, I really hope the iPhone 4G/HD uses the Samsung Super AMOLED screen! ;) It didn't seem like the Engadget guys commented as to whether or not that prototype has an OLED screen... hmm... :confused: :)

It didn't seem like the Engadget guys commented as to whether or not that prototype has an OLED screen... hmm... :confused: :)

I think it was hard for them to tell considering that Apple remotely erased the phone before it came into their possession. They couldn't get a real good look at the screen without it being turned on.

Wasn't it on the first few hours they had it? Commented on resolution. I wonder why they did not open it. Or admit they did. Probably the only way they could know for sure.

Wasn't it on the first few hours they had it? Commented on resolution. I wonder why they did not open it. Or admit they did. Probably the only way they could know for sure.

Well, regardless of what was in that prototype, we'll know for sure when Apple shows the final version on June 22nd! If it does indeed have the Samsung Super OLED... I'll be buying one!

I like the sony OLED monitor.

Samsung's Android-powered S-Pad tablet with 7-inch Super AMOLED in August? (http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/samsungs-android-powered-s-pad-tablet-with-7-inch-super-amoled/)

By Thomas Ricker posted May 4th 2010 1:53AM

Know what's hot like 2001? Tablet computers. Just like that a product category has been reborn and proven viable as a money making machine. Now the scramble is on to fill the void by companies big and small.

Samsung, a big name in the UMPC debacle (that's the Q1 to the right) with its own confirmed tablet ambitions, looks prepped to deliver product this summer if Korean pub Etnews is to be believed. First up, the OS: Android. Samsung's so-called "S-Pad" (the tentative name spawned under its S-Project initiative) will display Google's smartphone OS on a supposed 7-inch Super AMOLED display with WiFi and 3G data connectivity -- the latter supplied by SK Telecom who will supposedly help distribute the device. It'll also bring an iPad-esque USB dock and content from Kyobo books (Korea's largest bookstore) and Samsung's own Samsung Apps application store.

If true, we should expect to see Samsung's S-Pad launch in August. While no price has been given you can expect the cost to be exorbitant thanks to that extra large Super AMOLED display unless SK Telecom can push it down through ample subsidies.

Didn't see this posted on this thread but displaymate performed a review on the Nexus one oled display.




http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm

I think it's being dismissed as a problem specific to Pentile OLEDs. But there was another study cited earlier that power consumption and readability in daylight lag behind LCD and is expected to do so until about 2012.

I think it's being dismissed as a problem specific to Pentile OLEDs. But there was another study cited earlier that power consumption and readability in daylight lag behind LCD and is expected to do so until about 2012.

2012? What about 2010? :p Samsung Super AMOLED screen reportedly has much better ambient light characteristics. Don't OLEDs typically use less power than LCDs when displaying a black image? ;)

Yeah, it's hard for people to appreciate OLED if they haven't spent some time with the XEL-1. :) Superb motion (>PDP/LCD),

That's interesting, OLED has better motion than plasmas? Really?

I remember someone on another forum posting his impressions saying the OLED display he saw had really bad motion. Maybe my memory's not accurate here or he was wrong, I don't know. Didn't Sony only have still/slow changing images on their OLEDs at CES? I haven't kept up with the latest CESes so my info could be out of date.

I've also read of a 'sample-and-hold effect' or something. Basically the nature of LCD displays means they'll have some blur no matter how fast they are so they'll never be as good as CRT. Of course LCDs have been getting better, and will continue to do so, maybe even with this effect they still still reach a point where motion is good enough, I don't know. What you're saying though is that OLEDs are already there. I'm not sure if the sample and hold effect applies to plasmas, if it does then I guess it's not an impediment to good motion since plasmas are already good at that.

To go off topic for a bit, I've read on this forum a comment saying that by the time OLED get here 'cell tech' would have also arrived. The poster was basically saying that there's not point in being excited about OLEDs as even if they're viable and will come to market it will take too long and this 'cell tech' would either be its equal or surpass it. I thought posters here, in a thread about a future technology, might know what that guy was referring to? Google is of no help.

I don't think size questions are unreasonable. Until OLED can get above 50-inches and people can buy it--who cares?


I'd care at 32 (and smaller, for laptop/computers/etc..) and 40 inches. Many people don't need 50 inch TVs.

That's interesting, OLED has better motion than plasmas? Really?

I remember someone on another forum posting his impressions saying the OLED display he saw had really bad motion. Maybe my memory's not accurate here or he was wrong, I don't know.

You seem pretty hung on the fact that they have bad motion...


production sample had superb motion resolution


http://hdguru.com/sony-xel-1-finally-a-critical-review/242/


google search...?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Sony+XEL-1+%22motion+resolution%22

You seem pretty hung on the fact that they have bad motion...



http://hdguru.com/sony-xel-1-finally-a-critical-review/242/


Well, from that review:

As for the picture quality, unlike a prototype I saw in Japan last year, this production sample had superb motion resolution.

I guess the impressions I read were of those earlier models... :p

I can't help but wonder what OLED devices will be available in a couple of years. I'm beginning to wonder if OLED laptops will be common then.

I can't help but wonder what OLED devices will be available in a couple of years. I'm beginning to wonder if OLED laptops will be common then.

Well... from CES '10 I was expecting that Samsung's 7" OLED photo frame would be available by now ($300 MSRP)! Perhaps the 700Z has slipped to later this year!? We should also have LG's 15LE9500 in a few months! ;) I still need to order a GP2x Wiz (2.8" OLED). :D

http://www.sid.org/conf/sid2010/sid2010.html

$25 for a 3 day expo hall pass! :eek: There will be quite a few companies with OLED demos. I can't wait to see LG's 15EL9500, and other larger OLED displays! :D Only 13 more days!

http://www.sid.org/conf/sid2010/sid2010.html

$25 for a 3 day expo hall pass! :eek: There will be quite a few companies with OLED demos. I can't wait to see LG's 15EL9500, and other larger OLED displays! :D Only 13 more days!

The site says you must register by May 7th or the price goes up an additional $75. Does that include people who simply want to attend the exhibits, or is that only for those who want to attend seminars? Can you walk up and pay $25 or must you register ahead of time?

maybe 2012 http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/14/samsung-prepped-for-42-inch-oled-tv-trials-in-2011-if-3d-doesnt/

Can you walk up and pay $25 or must you register ahead of time?

The +$75 applies to the seminars/tracks, not the $25 expo only pass. Not sure about day of sales, but it looks like they'll have registration during all days of the show:

http://www.sid.org/conf/sid2010/registration.html

Registration Hours
Sunday, May 23: 8:00 AM - 6:00 PM
Monday, May 24: 7:00 AM - 6:30 PM
Tuesday, May 25: 7:00 AM - 6:30 PM
Wednesday, May 26: 7:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Thursday, May 27: 7:00 AM - 2:00 PM
Friday, May 28: 7:00 AM - 12:00 PM


so, I would imagine you could pay day of show... but you'd have to check with SID for certain. You can still purchase a 3 day expo pass on their site... get to it! ;)

What are you talking about.. arsenal have been strong all season.. fabregas has been strong all season.. van persie will not leave for yet another two season.. united fans will newver accept others to win the league.. alex ferguson is currupt in the buttom.. the league matches we have been without 5-6 players in many weeks.. u cant stand that the fact that others win the league.. get used to it.. because you wont win it again. You
are the most deluded of all.. liverpool is a bigger club then united.. fergusons trophies are all bought by his labour part connection.

AMOLED, is now 5.5 generations - Samsung SMD's monopoly will continue (http://olednet.com/focus/focus_board/focus_view.asp?idx=380)
12 May 2010

Samsung SMD who secured the world's leading AMOLED technology started ordering equipments for 5.5 generation (1500 x 1100mm) line. They already have 4 generation's (PCB 730 x 920mm) LTPS line and 4 units of 3.5 generation's evaporator (730 x 460mm) using 4.5 generation's glasses and by the 3rd quarters of this year, Samsung SMD completes to adopt the 3.5 generation's evaporator.

Samsung SMD will be in full 5.5 generation's system by the 1st half of 2011 with the completion of orders for 5.5 generation's evaporator. It is for getting firm stance in mobile display market and in a more robust large-area AMOLED TV market.

The newly adopted 5.5 generation's evaporator of Samsung SMD can increase the mobile display production volume up to two times, which is currently manufactured by 4 units of 3.5 generation's evaporator and also can produce 42 inches of AMOLED. It can produce 4 sheets of 30 inches' AMOLED which is introduced in the exhibition by Samsung SMD recently.

Samsung SMD's full investment on AMOLED has already foreseen by the rapid promotion of Managing Director Mr. Seong Cheol Kim, who is responsible for developing AMOLED TV. He was in charge of developing AMOLED TV of Samsung SMD and has led the introduction of 2 generation's PMOLED lines, and also 3.5 generation's AMOLED with a successful mass production so that he was awarded top technical prize to best engineer by Samsung Group.

With the order of Samsung SMD's 5.5 generation's equipment, Domestic equipment companies also have started to develop the equipment to produce and examine the 42 inches AMOLED TV.

If the installation of 5.5 generation's equipment is completed successfully in the first half of 2011, it is expected to be possible to make trial production of the 42 inches AMOLED TV by the end of the year.

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Dupont reports new record lifetime performance for printed OLEDs, enough for OLED TVs (http://www.oled-info.com/dupont-reports-new-record-lifetime-performance-printed-oleds-enough-oled-tvs)
13 May 2010

Dupont announced new record lifetime performance in printed OLEDs for displays. They say that this is sufficient for OLED TVs. The new Gen 3 solution-processable OLEDs offer 29,000 hours for red, 110,000 for green and 34,000 for blue (at typical TV brightness levels). This is enough for 8 hours per day over 15 years...

Back in 2009, Dupont reported even better lifetime for OLEDs. But these new materials can be used in a printing process, which should make it cheaper and easier to produce OLED TV displays. DuPont has produced some test devices with the new materials and will show them at SID.

An expanded version of the above post. Sounds good - on display at SID>
http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/25337/?a=f

Well, here's a comparison of the Apple iPhone to the Samsung S8500 (LCD vs Super AMOLED)
Nice, really shows the difference.

"If the installation of 5.5 generation's equipment is completed successfully in the first half of 2011, it is expected to be possible to make trial production of the 42 inches AMOLED TV by the end of the year."
So......

In 2012 we can expect something larger than a smartphone screen?

IMO, that sounds like 2013 to me if it'll take till roughly the end of 2011 to start trial production.

How will I ever replace my KURO if it ever wears out?

How will I ever replace my KURO if it ever wears out?

Check here:
http://<yournearestmetroarea>.craigslist.org

By that time, people will have moved on to better displays... they even exist today! ;)

By that time, people will have moved on to better displays... they even exist today! ;)

I can only think of two better tvs than Kuro. Toshiba Cell Regza in Japan and HDR lcd from Dolby? What else is there?

Holosuite. ;)