Quick question, I notice you can use the custom buttons and backgrounds on a link provided somewhere else on this post. I noticed they are for the 880 and work OK with the 720 but are not the right size really.

Anyway, would anyone be interested in the right size buttons and backgrounds for the 720. I made one up and will post a link to it. I may make several different styles etc.

If there is any intrests..I wil make some custom ones in the next week or so

Yep - I'd be interested...

Give me a day or so and 'll post a few. Mabe sooner, I want to make sure they work right. I'll try to come up with several designs

I have a question about programming the remote. Is it necessary to be connected to the internet when updating the remote? Or is it possible to go online, program your settings and download them to a file and later transfer them to the remote itself.

From what i understand, any changes in programming have to be done while connected to Harmony's website with the remote connected also.

Also, is there anyway to backup the current configuration before programming the remote just in case you mess up and want to go back to the original program you had.

As i understand it right now, all programming is done and stored on Harmonys website, is this correct.

Yes, you have to be connected (remote to machine, machine to internet) to update the remote.
There is no downloadable file to save/backup configuration or to 'apply later'.
You don't have to have the remote connected to log into the site and change configurations, you just need the software. All changes are stored by the Logitec servers. When you're ready to go, connect the remote and hit "Update".

Has anyone heard any updates on being able to change the Favorite Channels button location?

New member here! I have a couple quick questions I hope someone will be nice enough to answer, i've taken a brief look through this massive thread but haven't been able to find any answers.

- How to you stop uncontrolled devices (i.e. a laptop) from shutting down when you switch to another activity?
- Can you get your TV/HD Box to start on a certain channel when you press the "watch TV" activity button?

- Can you get your TV/HD Box to start on a certain channel when you press the "watch TV" activity button?

When you get through the setup wizard for the activity it shows you a summary and gives you three options. The 2nd option (if memory serves) is "Yes, but I want to add additional steps" (or something similar). Select that, walk through the wizard again, and add additional steps to the end of the startup sequence (i.e. send the appropriate commands to your TV/DVR to change to the appropriate channel).

thanks!! worked really well.

New member here! I have a couple quick questions I hope someone will be nice enough to answer, i've taken a brief look through this massive thread but haven't been able to find any answers.

- How to you stop uncontrolled devices (i.e. a laptop) from shutting down when you switch to another activity?


Either add the device to any activity you want it to remain on in, or go to "Activity options" for the activity in question and set "Turn off unused devices" to "Leave on".

I am planning on getting a 720 soon. I have a Motorola DCT6416 and understand I'll be able to use 30 second skip forward with the remote. Will I be able to link a series of 30 second skips together, say 30 of them, to get a 15 minute skip ahead? Or will this be limited to just 4 or 5 together as a maximum number of steps for a Macro?

This was a couple of pages ago, so may have been answered, but you don't need to create a macro for this, the cable box already allows it naturally. When you're watching a recording and want to skip ahead (or back) in 15 minute intervals, you hit fast forward or rewind, and then while it is doing that, hit the directional arrow in the direction you want to skip. It'll jump to the next 15 minute section of the recording (the little bars it shows breaking up the 1 hour of programing)

I've got the same box, and been doing that with the old cable remote forever. The 720 still has the controls for FF and right arrow, so works the same way...

I've been searching through the thread and also looked online but can't find an answer. Is there anyway to re-order the way the devices are shown on the screen. Or does it just put them in the order you program them. ie, i would like cable first, then tv, mivx player, dvd player, hdmi switcher etc. Right now i'm scrolling back and forth to get to the most used.

I've been searching through the thread and also looked online but can't find an answer. Is there anyway to re-order the way the devices are shown on the screen. Or does it just put them in the order you program them. ie, i would like cable first, then tv, mivx player, dvd player, hdmi switcher etc. Right now i'm scrolling back and forth to get to the most used.

You can't re-order devices, but you shouldn't need to anyway. If you use Activities (as you should be...this is an Activity based remote) then you should rarely, if ever, need to select an individual device.

If you need to select a device to access a certain command, add that command to the activity (under "Change button behaviour" for the activity in question)

You can't re-order devices, but you shouldn't need to anyway. If you use Activities (as you should be...this is an Activity based remote) then you should rarely, if ever, need to select an individual device.

If you need to select a device to access a certain command, add that command to the activity (under "Change button behaviour" for the activity in question)

I didn't think so. After spending about 4 hours playing with this tonight i did find that the Activities buttons could be added/changed. I thought that when you created an activity it would carry over all the buttons from the device but i guess you need to manually configure some. I even tried the learning and it works great. There is quite a learning curve to this remote and not much in documentation that i could find anywhere but i'm slowly figuring it out. Once you learn the programming it's has almost endless configurations.

One thing i haven't been able to get to work yet is when i shut down my Mvix player the tv is suppose to return to HDMI 1. So far it's not working yet. I make sure the remote is pointed towards the tv when selecting the shutdown. I'll just keep playing with it. This could take some time to configure all i have to put in it.

Thanks for the feedback.

This was a couple of pages ago, so may have been answered, but you don't need to create a macro for this, the cable box already allows it naturally. When you're watching a recording and want to skip ahead (or back) in 15 minute intervals, you hit fast forward or rewind, and then while it is doing that, hit the directional arrow in the direction you want to skip. It'll jump to the next 15 minute section of the recording (the little bars it shows breaking up the 1 hour of programing)

I've got the same box, and been doing that with the old cable remote forever. The 720 still has the controls for FF and right arrow, so works the same way...

Thanks scout101! I'm at work now but I'll give this a try when I get home in the morning. That's what I was hoping for as pushing the macro 6 or 7 times to get through hockey intermissions/halftimes sometimes knocks out the audio on the 6416, requiring a power toggle of the STB.

... as pushing the macro 6 or 7 times to get through hockey intermissions/halftimes sometimes knocks out the audio on the 6416, requiring a power toggle of the STB. I have a 6412 that loses the audio every now and then when doing a series of 30-second skips. I can get audio back quickly by toggling the "DVR Mute" -- much faster than a power down and back up.

Perhaps that might work for you also.

I have a 6412 that loses the audio every now and then when doing a series of 30-second skips. I can get audio back quickly by toggling the "DVR Mute" -- much faster than a power down and back up.

I sometimes have that very problem as well. I find that stopping (not pausing) the playback and then restarting it solves the problem for me.

Thanks scout101! I'm at work now but I'll give this a try when I get home in the morning. That's what I was hoping for as pushing the macro 6 or 7 times to get through hockey intermissions/halftimes sometimes knocks out the audio on the 6416, requiring a power toggle of the STB.

I've got the DCT3416 and this doesn't work with either the 720 or the original remote. The only way i can find to get forward or back is the the FF buttons which can take some time if i'm trying to move a good amount of time. If i push the FF button then the directional buttons it just speeds up the FF.

Darn, i hoped this would work too, i never heard about this trick.

I've got the DCT3416 and this doesn't work with either the 720 or the original remote. The only way i can find to get forward or back is the the FF buttons which can take some time if i'm trying to move a good amount of time. If i push the FF button then the directional buttons it just speeds up the FF.

Darn, i hoped this would work too, i never heard about this trick.

Didn't work for me either. scout101, which cableco do you use? I wonder if this feature might be enabled by some and not by others.

Didn't work for me either. scout101, which cableco do you use? I wonder if this feature might be enabled by some and not by others.

I have comcast and they have a lot of the features on the DVR disabled. I just looked into AT&T U-Verse. Actually, just ordered it. All digital cable with HD and DVR that records up to 4 shows at the same time.

Anyone using the Harmony 720 with a HTPC running Girder?

I have an ATI Remote Wonder which works well, but since it is a discontinued products, the supply of plug-ins seems to be drying up. For example, no update for the latest version of WinDVD.

Using Girder between the IR receiver and the applications seems a power and flexible way to go, and would allow one remote for everything, including PC based viewers.

If this is being discussed elsewhere, please provide a link - I have done a search or three, but not found anything directly related.

Thanks!

just an FYI to those looking for the 720.. i saw it on sale at my local Target for $143 until Saturday

Which is the best client to use?
The installed executable or the web interface?

Have just got my 720 the other day. Could someone tell me difference between a power toggle and on & off. When I set up my PVR it asked me to send the power toggle from my PVR remote but I didn't know how to do that so I skipped that procedure.
Thanks

Could someone tell me difference between a power toggle and on & off.

A power toggle is when you press the button it toggles the state. Put another way, if the device is on, it turns it off. If the device is off, it turns it on.

On and off (discrete codes) are just that. When you send the "on" signal it turns the device on; if the device is already on it does nothing. Likewise for off.

If you're not sure whether you have discrete codes for your device, it's probably safest to go with the power toggle and let the remote track the state of your devices.

Thanks Craig. That's exactly what I wanted to know

My receiver (Onkyo 605) has only 2 HDMI inputs and now I'm getting 3rd HDMI enabled device. Could somebody recommend an HDMI switcher that is controllable by Harmony 720?
Thank you.

My receiver (Onkyo 605) has only 2 HDMI inputs and now I'm getting 3rd HDMI enabled device. Could somebody recommend an HDMI switcher that is controllable by Harmony 720?
Thank you.

I've got this one and it works good. Good price too.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=2777&seq=1&format=2

Is Walmart.com the cheapest place to find this remote ATM?

I noticed people in the first few pages of the thread were getting it much cheaper, but those may have been early sales.

BTW, is this a pretty substantial step up from the Harmony 360 remote? That's what I have right now, and have noticed the screen starting to flicker and it's also began to reset itself. This is after putting new batteries in. I've had it for a couple years now.

someone mentioned costco has it $43 cheaper than target and $49 cheaper than walmart in their stores even though their online price is higher.

someone mentioned costco has it $43 cheaper than target and $49 cheaper than walmart in their stores even though their online price is higher.

Best Buy has the 880 for 30 bucks less than Costco wants for the 720.

Best Buy has the 880 for 30 bucks less than Costco wants for the 720.

that is the difference from costco's online price...in-store price is $50 less than the current BB 880 deal.

that aside, I have the 880...I was just trying to relay information from what I've seen. Given the fact that it is the holidays and people are spending money like it grows on trees, I thought I'd point them in the direction to save a little money.

that is the difference from costco's online price...in-store price is $50 less than the current BB 880 deal.

that aside, I have the 880...I was just trying to relay information from what I've seen. Given the fact that it is the holidays and people are spending money like it grows on trees, I thought I'd point them in the direction to save a little money.

So Costco has the 720 for a hundred bucks? I recently purchased the 720 but didn't get it that cheap. I was thinking of returning it and getting the 880. Other than having more devices, what advantage does the 880 have over the 720. I really want the 890 for the RF support but can't spend that much.

So Costco has the 720 for a hundred bucks? I recently purchased the 720 but didn't get it that cheap. I was thinking of returning it and getting the 880. Other than having more devices, what advantage does the 880 have over the 720. I really want the 890 for the RF support but can't spend that much.

880 doesn't have more devices,the only difference is it has 8 soft buttons instead of the 720's 6 soft buttons, and the 880 has that goofy peanut shape, other than that they use the same software, have the same functionality

880 doesn't have more devices,the only difference is it has 8 soft buttons instead of the 720's 6 soft buttons, and the 880 has that goofy peanut shape, other than that they use the same software, have the same functionality

Oh, thanks for the info. I wish there was a way to re-order the devices. I have 7 programmed and one that i use often is on the 2nd page. I've tried everything to get it on the first page, even uninstalling and reinstalling the device but still no go. I can't figure how it orders, not alphabetical and if it orders by install i figured reinstalling it would bring it to the top. I seem to be using the devices more than the activities.

I wish there was a way to re-order the devices. I have 7 programmed and one that i use often is on the 2nd page. ... I seem to be using the devices more than the activities.

Then you're using the remote wrong.

If there is a feature you use frequently, you should put it on the LCD screen for the activity(ies) to which it applies.

For example, I often switch the aspect ratio of my HDTV (full, zoom, 4:3, dot-by-dot, etc). I do this when I'm watching a DVD (Watch DVD Activity), watching Blu-ray discs (Watch Blu-ray Activity), or watching TV (Watch TV Activity). Each of those three activities has an Aspect command on the LCD so I don't have to switch to the TV device to get at the feature.

The device buttons should only include features you use once in a blue moon. If you use a feature frequently, in should be on the activity screen.

I would sign-up at Costco just to get this remote for $100. I'll have to give them a call to see if that's the price they're selling for.

I would sign-up at Costco just to get this remote for $100. I'll have to give them a call to see if that's the price they're selling for.
I paid 119 for mine at Costco (was 169 less 50 instant rebate).

Then you're using the remote wrong.

If there is a feature you use frequently, you should put it on the LCD screen for the activity(ies) to which it applies.

For example, I often switch the aspect ratio of my HDTV (full, zoom, 4:3, dot-by-dot, etc). I do this when I'm watching a DVD (Watch DVD Activity), watching Blu-ray discs (Watch Blu-ray Activity), or watching TV (Watch TV Activity). Each of those three activities has an Aspect command on the LCD so I don't have to switch to the TV device to get at the feature.

The device buttons should only include features you use once in a blue moon. If you use a feature frequently, in should be on the activity screen.

Exactly. ;)

Does anyone know if the 890 RF unit (sold separately) can work with the 720? Or what does the 720 need in order for it to function with the RF.:confused:

After reading over this thread several times I decided to pick up the 720. This remote is great. I didn't have any problems at all in programming the remote. It was pretty easy. The only set back now is that I have a PS3. The PS3 prevents me from having the ability to control everything with this remote.

Overall this remote is worth the investment as now it controls my HDDVD player, Xbox360, tv, reciever, and satellite. I give it 5 stars.

Does anyone know if the 890 RF unit (sold separately) can work with the 720? Or what does the 720 need in order for it to function with the RF.:confused:

The RF unit only works with the 890. I asked Logiteck about it. Too bad, i need a good RF unit too. I'm still using my URC-9910 for that.

:mad:
I recently purchased this product and I am already having issues with it. I've spent hours and hours trying to figure this thing out. Every time I try to update the remote I get "Go to website to update," and when I do try to update it, it only completes 3%. I've tried everything to try to get it to work, but no success. I've tried configuring it on the mac and pc and neither seems to work. Can anyone please assist me?

There was a little strangeness getting the product up to the latest version, but I didn't have any trouble getting it to complete 100%. :confused:

I had no trouble configuring the 720 on a Mac with version 10.4.11. As others have mentioned, I used the Logitech software off their website, and did not touch the disk that came with the device. I enjoyed the challenge of setting everything up, especially having the Lutron Maestro controllers changing the light levels depending on the activity button that was pushed. It is great to remove all the old remotes from the room.

Can anyone please assist me?Try pulling the battery for 30 seconds to do a complete hard reset. Then attempt another update.

After reading over this thread several times I decided to pick up the 720. This remote is great. I didn't have any problems at all in programming the remote. It was pretty easy. The only set back now is that I have a PS3. The PS3 prevents me from having the ability to control everything with this remote.

Overall this remote is worth the investment as now it controls my HDDVD player, Xbox360, tv, reciever, and satellite. I give it 5 stars.

you can control the PS3, with the limitation of being able to turn it on/off with the 720.
I am using it for my ps3 and it works perfectly.

How would you turn a bluetooth PS3 on/off with an IR remote?

How would you turn a bluetooth PS3 on/off with an IR remote?

I'm pretty sure you can't. You can just control the dvd aspects if you have an ir receiver for it. There is a thread around here on this topic.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674

I couldn't find an "On Demand" icon for my favorites menu so I made one. You can save this and pass it if you want. I hope that it's useful to someone else also.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=98057&d=1199308113

I was trying to add an activity to turn of an AVR, Satellite Receiver, a TV and anything else that's been left on. I not sure how to do this. Can anyone help?
Thanks:confused:

I'm not sure I understand your question.

If you're asking how to turn everything off at night, then all you have to do
is to push the very small, round button located above and to the extreme left
of the Activities button. It is way too small on the 720.

It is not an Activity, merely an Off button - it turns everything off with just one push.

Hope this answers your question.

Thanks Gary: I didn't realize it was that easy.

I just upgraded to the new TIVO HD. For whatever reason it appears I have to use that Closed Captioning option instead of my TV's. For me to turn on closed captioning via the TIVO I have to press info, down arrow 4 times then enter. This is one key to many to do a sequence. What's the easiest way to make this into a 1 button solution on the harmony?

Just program one soft key on the harmony to accomplish this. I'm assuming that you've created an activity to "watch TV" or "tivo". If so goto the activities tab.

Click on the "customize buttons" under your tivo associated activity.
Click on the additional buttons tab.
Here you can create one button to accomplish what used to take several steps. Just label it what you want, select the correct device (your tivo) and then select the command. If the command isn't available you can teach it to the harmony using your existing tivo remote.

My original TIVO remote does not have a close caption button. The only way I can turn it on/off is to hit

1. info
2. down arrow
3. down arrow
4. down arrow
5. down arrow
6. enter

That is one too many for a sequence. And I seriously don't want to press 2 buttons for closed captioning.

Thanks Gary: I didn't realize it was that easy.

One caveat to this. If you've gone up to a component and physically turned it on without using the remote, the Harmony won't know it's on and will NOT turn it off.

My original TIVO remote does not have a close caption button. The only way I can turn it on/off is to hit

1. info
2. down arrow
3. down arrow
4. down arrow
5. down arrow
6. enter

That is one too many for a sequence. And I seriously don't want to press 2 buttons for closed captioning.

You could create 3 sequences... one to do the first 3 or 4 functions, one to do the last few and then one that fires the first sequence followed by the second sequence and map that third sequence to a button. Or... call support. I hear they're pretty good and may be able to program one for you.

I love my Harmony 720. The only thing I haven't been able to tweak yet is how fast it adjusts my Toshiba TV volume up/down. Whenever I press the volume buttons on the remote, no matter how briefly, it adjust the TV volume by TWO levels (or segments). I want it to adjust the volume by just one level at a time. I've tried tweaking the IR timing, but that didn't work.

My volume adjusts by three.

the volume on mine goes 1 at a time with my denon receiver, almost too slow sometimes

I received an answer via the RemoteCentral forum that worked, so I thought I'd post it here in case you want to change the sensitivity of your volume adjustments. It's done by adjusting the number of "repeats" via Device > Troubleshoot. The settings are from 0 to 5 with 5 being more sensitive. My TV was set at 3 repeats by default. I reduced it to 1 repeat and got the volume adjustment down to 1 level like I wanted.

How would i program a 30 second skip for my Motorola DCT 6416 HD PVR?

Whohoo! Early birthday gift for me!

How would i program a 30 second skip for my Motorola DCT 6416 HD PVR?

Do you want the Motorola PVR to turn on 30 seconds after an activity is selected, or do you want the Motorola PVR to perform another action 30 seconds after it turns on?

mailmanx,
What I want is skip commercials while I watch recorded program. (Original remote doesn't have this functionality.)

What I want is skip commercials while I watch recorded program.
Ahh, that would be great! :)

Go to Watch PVR:Customize Buttons. Under the "Skip Forward" button, set to Digital Set Top Box and select "Advance" command. That will give you a 30 second skip function.

ASBurrows, let us know if what DocCasualty suggested works for you.

If not, I found this link on how to set an original Motorola 6412 remote to have a 30-second skip. It might be close enough to your 6416 to be the same. Then you could use that remote to train the Harmony 720.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&page=119

DocCasualty,
Thank you so much. This works great! On the downside, now I realized some shows pack 3 minute commercial stretches. :(

If not, I found this link on how to set an original Motorola 6412 remote to have a 30-second skip. It might be close enough to your 6416 to be the same. Then you could use that remote to train the Harmony 720.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&page=119


You have provided a link that goes to a page, not a specific message. Given that the number of messages displayed per page is a user-settable option, a link to a page will not reliably display the message to which you wish to point.

Would you please re-post your link to a specific message?

I was unable to get any hits on an advanced search as to whether or not the 720 will work with the Yamaha YSP sound bars, particularly the YSP-1100. Is there a way to search some website for specific compatibilities like that, or does anyone have experience with the Yamahas? Thanks.

You could create 3 sequences... one to do the first 3 or 4 functions, one to do the last few and then one that fires the first sequence followed by the second sequence and map that third sequence to a button. Or... call support. I hear they're pretty good and may be able to program one for you.

I don't see a way for a sequence to call other sequences. Are you sure this is an option?

You have provided a link that goes to a page, not a specific message. Given that the number of messages displayed per page is a user-settable option, a link to a page will not reliably display the message to which you wish to point.

Would you please re-post your link to a specific message?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5314366#post5314366

Alternatively, you could use pretty much any of the first half dozen results of this search.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=motorola+6412+30+second+skip&btnG=Google+Search

I don't see a way for a sequence to call other sequences. Are you sure this is an option?

Crap... I assumed this would be possible. Sorry. So last option would be to call their support. I'm sure they can get something going for you.

I was unable to get any hits on an advanced search as to whether or not the 720 will work with the Yamaha YSP sound bars, particularly the YSP-1100. Is there a way to search some website for specific compatibilities like that, or does anyone have experience with the Yamahas? Thanks.

I've learned that the trick to doing a search like this is to NOT limit it just to the Harmony 720 because all of the Harmony's are programmed from the same online database. Even the cheapest Harmony's will control the same equipment as the expensive ones.

Doing a search for your request, I found several links where people are successfully using a Yamaha Soundbar with a Logitech Harmony Remote. Here is one example specific to the YSP-1100 (first sentence by second reviewer):

http://www.kikatek.com/product_reviews.php?products_id=18492

To further help you out, I'll log onto the Harmony software when I get home from work today and tell it I have a YSP-1100. It will let me know if it's in the database, then I'll post back here and let you know. Of course, you can also program the Harmony 720 directly from the YSP-1100's remote, but it would definitely be nice if the YSP-1100 is already in the database.

I'm home from work now. I logged into the Harmony Software and told it I have a Yamaha YSP-1100. It recognized it instantly and added a host of buttons for it. I hope that helps.

Repost...

I've used the Harmony 720 for the past year, but just upgraded to the Harmony One.

Below are some side-by-side shots comparing the Harmony One and Harmony 720. Click for larger.

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/3.jpg (http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/3_large.jpg)

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/1.jpg (http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/1_large.jpg) http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/2.jpg (http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/harmony/One_vs_720/2_large.jpg)

Note the (1) white backlighting on hard buttons, (2) much larger transport controls, (3) larger menu and guide buttons; (4) color TiVo +/- buttons on LCD, (5) contoured buttons, including recessed record button.

The buttons on the Harmony One jut out more from the remote, making them easier to use by feel. When pressed, there is an audible click. The buttons don't depress into the remote like the Harmony 670/680 or the URC MX series.

sweet
is there a way to divide up the touch screen into more than 3 buttons?

sweet
is there a way to divide up the touch screen into more than 3 buttons?The main activity screen is currently limited to three buttons.

Every other screen -- the activities themselves, favorites, etc -- has six buttons. The first screen above shows my TiVo activity.

...But since I just spend $150 on the 720, I can't justify buying the Harmony One. Oh well, the 720 does what I want very nicely. Maybe next Christmas I'll splurge on the ONE. It should be cheaper by then, too.

The One looks nice but I can't think of any reason to justify an upgrade from the 720 (which was itself a gift so I didn't pay anything for it). Maybe if it could bluetooth synch on it's own. I prefer the soft keys to touch screen, as well.

looks nice indeed!

I purchased this remote on Ebay used. The ad basically said it was unused, which is clearly not the case because it shows signs of button label wear. Also, the thing will not charge. If I put the unit in the cradle, it turns on and boots. Looks beautiful. But after hours of charging, it loses power as soon as I remove it. Is there something specific that I need to do to charge it? The battery indicator always just has a "?" over it...

Where can one find replacement batteries for a decent price? Thanks!

I purchased this remote on Ebay used. The ad basically said it was unused, which is clearly not the case because it shows signs of button label wear. Also, the thing will not charge. If I put the unit in the cradle, it turns on and boots. Looks beautiful. But after hours of charging, it loses power as soon as I remove it. Is there something specific that I need to do to charge it? The battery indicator always just has a "?" over it...

Where can one find replacement batteries for a decent price? Thanks!

Before trying to buy a new battery, try a "wedge". I read several posts in various forums saying that the battery does not always maintain contact with the pins inside the remote. Many people successfully solved this by placing a small shim of folded paper at the opposite end of the battery to push it against the contacts. But if that doesn't work, Best Buy sells the original Logitech branded replacement battery for $29.99:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8523234&st=harmony+battery&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1186007074751

That sucks that the One only has 3 Activities per page...

Right. They did a great job on the transport controls, especially with the big Play in the center. The placement on the 720 has never bothered me, though the arrangement always stuck out as peculiar.

The comparison pictures make the backlighting on the One very much brighter, but I always thought the backlighting was done perfectly on the 720. Bright enough to see, but not too bright (unlike the screen which is a torch with the lights out).

The touchscreen is really gimmicky for a remote where the soft keys are better IMO than touchscreen without any tactile feedback. The loss of 6 activities to 3 is a turn in the wrong direction. Maybe they can correct it with a later update, though.

Hi

Got this remote as an offer with a new Epson projector.

Still trying to figure most of the stuff out.

First problem is (and I tried searching for an answer without success), i set up a tv with some favorite channels, but it only works properly with single digit channels - if it's 14 for example tv only gets the first '1' and stays waiting for the possible additional number. As it doesn't get it it changes to channel 1.

On decive settings I already 'told' the remote the correct option on how the tv takes channel numbers...

Any ideas?

thanks for any help

cheers
L.

It's might be that the inter-key delay is too long.

So I submitted an RMA for this remote which I purchased awhile back. They are sending me a new one. Here is the surprise:

The instructions state that I don't need to return the old one, and that it has been disabled from the system (ie I cannot update it from the software). I can dispose of it how I see fit.

The thing works great except the timer circuit is faulty so the clock updates really slow and sometimes the lights never turn off. Is there some kind of application to flash it? I'd love to use the thing on my bedroom setup at least. Seems like such a waste!

I used to think it was the cable box that was the problem now I realize it's the remote. My problem is I have to push the number buttons very hard in order for it to register. I tested it out with the regular remote that comes with the box and pushing those buttons were effortless. Is there a fix to this?

So I submitted an RMA for this remote which I purchased awhile back. They are sending me a new one. Here is the surprise:

The instructions state that I don't need to return the old one, and that it has been disabled from the system (ie I cannot update it from the software). I can dispose of it how I see fit.

The thing works great except the timer circuit is faulty so the clock updates really slow and sometimes the lights never turn off. Is there some kind of application to flash it? I'd love to use the thing on my bedroom setup at least. Seems like such a waste!

i had the same thing happen, my 8 key became very sporadic, they tried a couple things and are just sendin me a new remote, sweet, i'll hang on to it incase the new one ever dies, the 8 is already remapped to the enter key so it'll still work mostly, question is, does it retain the settings without the battery in it? or should i just leave it on teh charger when i'm using the new one to keep it fresh

i had the same thing happen, my 8 key became very sporadic, they tried a couple things and are just sendin me a new remote, sweet, i'll hang on to it incase the new one ever dies, the 8 is already remapped to the enter key so it'll still work mostly, question is, does it retain the settings without the battery in it? or should i just leave it on teh charger when i'm using the new one to keep it fresh

It looks like if I dig deep enough I can use the linux open-source software to flash this by making an account and then downloading the .hex file from the logitech site. Then I can use it for my upstairs setup.

I'm still trying to determine if the 720 uses a similar style of connection as the 880/1000... http://sourceforge.net/projects/harmonycontrol/

It looks like if I dig deep enough I can use the linux open-source software to flash this by making an account and then downloading the .hex file from the logitech site. Then I can use it for my upstairs setup.

I'm still trying to determine if the 720 uses a similar style of connection as the 880/1000... http://sourceforge.net/projects/harmonycontrol/

sweet let us know, i have a fedora box i could use to do that with

sweet let us know, i have a fedora box i could use to do that with

I spent some time at work messing with the source and got it to compile for Windows. I will give it a shot and make sure it works before I give it out.

Well hope there are still some people reading this thread who can answer my questions...I have read 20 pages of this thread so far and have not found anwer i am looking for...

Just got a 720 as a gift and took me aobut 3 hours to setup and customize, pretty amazed by it and love it. Am running into two problems:

1. Have an older Toshiba RPTV with several source inputs, there are 2 ways to select an input:


either i use the source input button and it cycles through every input always starting at video 1 by default (even though nothing is connected)



or press select/OK on the navigational pad and it brings up a list of channels and source inputs but if i am at channel 25 i need to scroll down or up all the way to channel 1 get to source inputs

So basically need quite a few button presses to get where i want (one situation where 6 (source input default to video 1 - select-down-down-down-select) presses would be needed and others only 1 (source down)or 3 (select-up-select) presses if that makes any sense)


Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Component 1
Component 2
Memory Card Reader
PC


I only use component 1 and 2, the rest i run through my Onkyo AVR

Now if i want to watch a DVD it does not select the right input on tv and for the life of me i can't figure out how to get this right. I have tried many setting in the web based interface, i even saw a Toshiba TV option that mentions the issue but it it just cycles one down on which ever channel or input i'm on

Did anyone figure this out?

2. Second issue Sattelite power off delay

For some reason switching on is no problem but during activity when i want to switch everything off, my sat needs you you to hold the power off button just a second longer to switch off. Before i used my onkyo remote to learn this and it worked without problem but with the activity it doesn't work.

I have seen the power on delay options on the web interface and have double that in time but it didn't seem to work, maybe because its power on delay...

Any ideas how to fix this

Appreciate any help i can get

Celso -

1. Disable the source inputs on your Toshiba RPTV that are not used so that only Component 1 & 2 are active?

2. Leave the Sat box on all the time.

I am sure it is obvious but I may be oblivious

I do not see any place to set AM or PM on the Harmony 720. Mine is reading AM and it is clearly night where I reside (G)

So shoot................

(I did do a search and even visited Harmony's less than helpful website.

Thanks in advance.

The time is corrected each time you synch the 720 with your PC.

And for those of us that have finalized our setups and haven't connected the remote to a PC in months, you can correct the clock drift by scrolling to the last activity (named System Options) where you can set the time directly. :)

To clarify for newcomers, Activities on your remote are named by you during setup, and are usually named something like "Watch DVR", "Watch DVD", "Watch Satellite", "Listen to Radio", etc. The remote has it's own Activity that is at the end of your list named "System Options".

But you cannot change AM/PM in System Options...

But you cannot change AM/PM in System Options...

I jwish there were the option to choose AM or PM.

There should be!

What I do is either update the time by updating on my computer or wait until the morning to manually change the time on the remote iteself.

But you cannot change AM/PM in System Options...

True, but when I set the time on my 720, I can choose any AM or PM time, so I don't understand the problem.

Example: I select the System Options activity, Set Time, select 2008, March, 10, 11:00 AM, 32 minutes.

Time is now set.

If I had selected 11:00 PM, 32 minutes the time would be PM.

I am unsure as to how I am misunderstanding the problem you are having.

After having this remote for about 6 months now, I wanted to report back on my satisfaction. For a little background I use this remote to control a Sony DVD player, Toshiba DVD player, Sony receiver, Motorola STB, Sony HDTV, and Epson projector. Before getting the Harmony I used the "six pack" method - keeping all the remotes in the drawer, and pulling one out when it was needed. :cool:

This is my first true all-in-one. I read here on AVS, and did a ton of related research. I wasn't able to snag the very best price at the unnamed store, but came within about ten bucks.

I can't believe how much I like the remote - and how much my family likes it as well. Overall I think it is well worth the money. It has exceeded my expectations.

PROs

Setup was remarkably easy. Plug it in, run through a couple wizards and it automagically makes everything work!
Ease of use for all people is off the charts. Some of this is related to how much time you tinker with each activity. But I just can't say enough in this regard. Wife, son, parents, friends, babysitters, extended family - they all "get it".
Battery life is incredible. I think we go about two weeks before I have to use the cradle.
Range is great. My A/V rack is six feet directly to the left of my seating position. The projector is ceiling mounted directly above my head. The "screen" at this point is just a wall. I point the remote at the wall (17 feet away) and the reflections hit all the components - projector, receiver, cable box, dvd, etc. I can even stand an additional 20 feet back in the kitchen and everything works.


CONs

"Clicky" buttons reduce my pleasure. I know from a design perspective that the tactile and auditory feedback confirming your selection is the reason for the click. However, I always have some sort of visual confirmation - either on the A/v component or the display (TV/PJ). So the click is not needed and is mildly annoying. Because some of the buttons don't have the "click" and require less pressure it can introduce human performance issues (after softly pressing the transports and getting the desired result, I try to press a "clicky" button but have to do it twice because the first attempt was too soft based on the previous button). But at this point I'm splitting hairs. :eek:
Backlighting on the non-clicky buttons (transport/numbers) is VERY hard to see. I have to put the remote in front of my face. This is rarely an issue as I have come close to memorizing all their locations.
It doesn't mix drinks for me or deliver them to my location.


If I had chosen one of those "other" remotes which required manual programming (and of course the lauded amazing flexibility) I wouldn't have gotten past a couple of commands. For me, the value of just plugging it into my computer, telling it the make/model of my devices, and running through a few wizards made it a great solution. Add all the PROs I listed above and it has made me an evangelist for this device with all my friends and family.
:D

Oh - and I think it looks awesome too...;)

No A.M. or P.M. choices, displays show when I am attempting to set the date/time from the device.

I can set the hour but no am/pm anywhere - I've arrowed left and right.

And the computer did not reset it either.

I guess I can look out the window and generally tell but .....

No A.M. or P.M. choices, displays show when I am attempting to set the date/time from the device.

I can set the hour but no am/pm anywhere - I've arrowed left and right.Please note the photo below taken a few minutes ago. When starting the process to set the time, I selected year = 2008, month = March, day = 10. The next selection would be for hour of the day. The photo shows that I have just selected 8:00 PM as the hour.

You can see than in the "select hour" part of setting the time that I am on Page 4 of 4. If I had been on Page 2, I could have selected 8:00 AM.

If you do not have this feature on your Harmony 720 as I do on mine (or cannot find it), I don't know what more help I can offer.

Perhaps if you describe the exact steps you are taking to manually set the time, we could see how your results are diverging from mine.

Where can one view the firmware version on the 720? I can assure you that I only see HOUR NUMBERS and nothing additional.

No A.M. or P.M. choices, displays show when I am attempting to set the date/time from the device.

I can set the hour but no am/pm anywhere - I've arrowed left and right.

And the computer did not reset it either.

I guess I can look out the window and generally tell but .....

Hi, To be able to set AM or PM, your remote must be setup in 12-hour not 24-hour clock format. To verify, from the Web interface, choose "My Remote Preferences" - "Settings" - "Time Display Format". Make sure "24-hour clock" is ticked.

Hi, To be able to set AM or PM, your remote must be setup in 12-hour not 24-hour clock format. To verify, from the Web interface, choose "My Remote Preferences" - "Settings" - "Time Display Format". Make sure "24-hour clock" is ticked.

So which is it - 12 hour or 24 hour? The first part of your message says it must be setup in 12 hour mode but then at the end of your message it says to make sure that 24 hour clock is ticked. :confused:

True, but when I set the time on my 720, I can choose any AM or PM time, so I don't understand the problem.

Example: I select the System Options activity, Set Time, select 2008, March, 10, 11:00 AM, 32 minutes.

Time is now set.

If I had selected 11:00 PM, 32 minutes the time would be PM.

I am unsure as to how I am misunderstanding the problem you are having.

The problem is I cannot choose AM or PM; only AM. I do not have 4 pages of hour settings, only 2 pages.

So which is it - 12 hour or 24 hour? The first part of your message says it must be setup in 12 hour mode but then at the end of your message it says to make sure that 24 hour clock is ticked. :confused:

My bad... Make sure "12-hour clock" is ticked.

Thank you for all the advice unfortunately i have had to throw in the towel and am kind of disappointed by the harmony remote. It really is a lot of work to set up, and i normally love these things, guess if you have the perfect devices it could be great

This is my first ever all in one remote and was expecting a much more precise way of being able to control my system

After trying out every suggested option and skimming through all the forums for over a week now i've come to the conclusion that it might be a great remote but it all depends on how evolved the rest of your set up is.

My TV simply does not have a dedicated button for Component 1 and after having tried to make it skip to the right input with every time delay i could think of, i gave up on that all together. It never got it right, sometimes the one before or sometimes the one after. I also don't have access to a pronto so i can upload my own hex codes to try out so no luck with that either

The other thing that really disappoints me is the activities: if all of your setup has dedicated buttons for on and off this might be great....but in my case absolutely none of my machines have that option so if i choose to switch activities i either need to switch everything off or go into every single device menu to get to the settings, Also (which is not necessarily a bad thing) you need to tailor make ur device menu, for e.g. my Onkyo 604 AVR i needed to get to some things like surround toggle and input switching but moving it up or down 14 remote pages

Then third there are no dedicated soft buttons within an activity, only for the device that is playing, so if i want to enable switch to DTS within watching-DVD-activity i need to go to devices choose onkyo and find the page with surround toggle and then go back to activity to be able to pause or stop my DVD

FYI

Toshiba 46in RPTV
Onkyo 604 AVR
LG 1080i upscaling DVD
Helios Media Center - also DVD
Xsat sattelite receiver
UTStarcom IPTV receiver box
Nintendo Wii

I ran a couple of things over my onkyo remote and was left with 4 remotes on the table and to be honest it was a lot better and precise then this

Thanks for all the input anyway, unfortunately i can't return the thing so i have a very good looking remote extra

There are definitely dedicated soft buttons within an activity - click on the "customize buttons" button for a activity, click additional butons tab, and configure the soft buttons to control any feature of any of the devices that are part of that activity. These soft buttons are what it will show on the remote after you initiate an activity.

Also, the remote "remembers" the power state of each device when using activities (at least mine does). So if I'm watching the DVR and then click HTPC activity, it knows the AVR and projector are already on and so bypasses those steps.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what your saying?

your third point is not correct, i've assigned soft buttons from different devices in the same activity with out any problems what so ever, including things like audio options, pip, etc.
my display doesn't have discrete inputs for its two hdmi inputs, but it selects them just fine when changing activities
i suggest that perhaps you're over thinking the process of how these remotes work, it should never need to have you manually turn everything off then on because the remote remembers what state everything is in when you select an activity...

Has anyone ever discovered what the correct image size should be for either changing the background image, or creating a slideshow on the 720?

Another thing I wanted to note that it looks like the "World Cup" theme has been removed in the latest Harmony software update, although it remains on my remote since I haven't updated the theme. I have a feeling that after I change it, I would loose the ability to switch to this theme again.

It's amusing how seemingly simple concepts tend to confuse or baffle some folks. I've seen people trying to tweak timing and navigate menu options for TV inputs 6 levels deep when all they have to do is plug everything into an AVR and let it do the switching.

The software used by the Harmony is very intuitive... well, to a software developer it is anyway. It would appear that Ceslo does not fully understand the concept of an activity based remote; i.e. power state memory and customizing buttons. I guess some just find it easier to sort thru a pile of remotes to do something rather than seeing that pressing a button is the same as picking up a different remote.

This is a bit of an over simplification. I had a similar problem with an older Samsung DLP and this remote. The TV did not support discreet commands to jump to particular inputs.

Your idea to simply run everything through an AVR is pretty weak. Take the simple situation that I had. I had two coaxial sources. My AVR doesn't take any coaxial inputs so I had to direct these straight to the TV.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you'll agree that buying a new expensive AVR that accepts and transcodes multiple co-ax inputs just so my $170 universal remote will work is a bit goofy. You don't even need to be a software developer to be able to do this math.


It's amusing how seemingly simple concepts tend to confuse or baffle some folks. I've seen people trying to tweak timing and navigate menu options for TV inputs 6 levels deep when all they have to do is plug everything into an AVR and let it do the switching.

The software used by the Harmony is very intuitive... well, to a software developer it is anyway. It would appear that Ceslo does not fully understand the concept of an activity based remote; i.e. power state memory and customizing buttons. I guess some just find it easier to sort thru a pile of remotes to do something rather than seeing that pressing a button is the same as picking up a different remote.

Hi all,

Just wondering if there was some sort of resolution to the am/pm issue that Rick Sass was having? I recently purchased a 720 and cannot choose between am or pm. All I get is 2 pages of hours - no differentiation between am or pm!!

Thanks!

^^^
Use military (24 hours) time.

Yup, I use 24-hour time, too. Biggest PITA I had was the end of daylight savings. Haven't been in my harmony config for awhile and couldn't remember the pass. Got it eventually, though. :D

i just got the harmony 720 and am having issues with sending command to switch my sharp aquos (42d72u) into dvi mode. ive figured out all othputs 1-5, inputtv also doesnt work (althoguh i dont watch tv so it doesnt matter), neither does input 6 which is the dvi. theres an input 7 lsited i have no clue what that is as i only have 6 inputs + xoax), but 7 also doesnt do anything. anybody can please help with this?? desperately seeking assitance.

i just got the harmony 720 and am having issues with sending command to switch my sharp aquos (42d72u) into dvi mode. ive figured out all othputs 1-5, inputtv also doesnt work (althoguh i dont watch tv so it doesnt matter), neither does input 6 which is the dvi. theres an input 7 lsited i have no clue what that is as i only have 6 inputs + xoax), but 7 also doesnt do anything. anybody can please help with this?? desperately seeking assitance.

Is there an input toggle option? That will run through all of them? If so, does that work? Ultimately, if the TV's remote has a dedicated button to choose the DVI input, then just have the Harmony learn that key and use that instead.

yes there is a dedicated input button, which works fine. its just wierd that input 1-5 discrete/dedicated buttons would work fine, but 6, which is dvi, is the only one not working.

Is there a way to turn off the lighting around the Activities button at the top? I just bought my 720 a few days ago and that light is pretty annoying

Nope no way to do this...

I have had the 720 for 6 months. Now the backlight no longer works, save for a couple dimly lit buttons in the lower right corner. Plus I can't seem to download the new version 7.4 due to having AOL. Any geniuses out there to help this ID-10-T?
Thanks in advance.

does anyone know of some good inexpensive in wall light dimmers that are ir and can be used with this remote

does anyone know of some good inexpensive in wall light dimmers that are ir and can be used with this remote

Define "inexpensive" . :D
I used these in my HT: http://www.lutron.com/CMS400/default.aspx?app=spacersystem

And I'm able to create different "scenes" and control it all with the Harmony.

-t

Quick question about using this remote in two different rooms. I suppose there is no way to designate certain Devices to a separate room or assign what devices get turned off when initiating a new activity. So there will still be the problem that if I have stuff on in one room and I go into the other, the state will get out of sync if you don't turn everything off in that room before starting an activity in the other. I suppose you could set it not to turn off devices when starting an activity, but that would apply to devices in both rooms, which isn't as desireable.

Any solution to this? Is there a more expensive model that handles this more elegantly?

Harmony 890 Pro

Quick question about using this remote in two different rooms. I suppose there is no way to designate certain Devices to a separate room or assign what devices get turned off when initiating a new activity. So there will still be the problem that if I have stuff on in one room and I go into the other, the state will get out of sync if you don't turn everything off in that room before starting an activity in the other. I suppose you could set it not to turn off devices when starting an activity, but that would apply to devices in both rooms, which isn't as desireable.

Any solution to this? Is there a more expensive model that handles this more elegantly?

why not use different "Activities" for each room made up of different equipment?
Unless you have line-of-sight between the rooms for the equipment, I wouldn't worry about turning on or off the other's gear.

-t

So is there a better price for the 720 than the $150 Walmart.com is charging? I've tried to nab it in several eBay auctions, but they always end up in the neighborhood of $150 with shipping and I'd just as soon go with Wally World at that price.

The 720 isn't even listed on Pricegrabber and shopzilla always directs me to 720ml bottles of Harmony brand wine.

I know some got good deals on clearance at Wal-Mart, but are there any other options?

Costco - $120

Costco - $120

Thanks for the response, but does that not require a membership? So $120 + $40 = $160?

Do they offer a free one day trail like Sams used to?

Costco site says $170 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11121630&search=harmony&Mo=5&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=harmony&Ntt=harmony&No=5&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1)

Hey guys, my Harmony 720 is no longer charging. Worked great for months, but now when I place it back in the cradle it just beeps once, shows me the "charging" picture for half a second, then goes back to the regular screen (and doesn't charge).

Any ideas ??

Hey guys, my Harmony 720 is no longer charging. Worked great for months, but now when I place it back in the cradle it just beeps once, shows me the "charging" picture for half a second, then goes back to the regular screen (and doesn't charge).Any ideas ??Clean the contacts on the charger and the remote. Ensure that the spring-loaded contacts on the charger "pop-up" fully.

Well, I've tried cleaning the contacts (no luck) but didn't know about the "pop-up" contacts. I'll take a peek. Thanks.

By the way, I'm pretty sure I'll be getting a Harmony One to replace this 720. I love the functionality of the 720, but I've never liked the buttons. The "One" looks much better in this regard.

Thanks for the response, but does that not require a membership? So $120 + $40 = $160?

Do they offer a free one day trail like Sams used to?

Costco site says $170 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11121630&search=harmony&Mo=5&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=harmony&Ntt=harmony&No=5&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1)

Yes, CostCo does require membership and the local store (not online) in my area has the 720 for 120.

My local costo has it for $99.

Clean the contacts on the charger and the remote. Ensure that the spring-loaded contacts on the charger "pop-up" fully.
Well, something else must be wrong. The remote is making contact, but the charging doesn't stay on.

I wonder if the rechargeable battery is bad. Strange, if so, since I haven't had the remote that long.

Well, something else must be wrong. The remote is making contact, but the charging doesn't stay on.

I wonder if the rechargeable battery is bad. Strange, if so, since I haven't had the remote that long.

I had similar problems about 6 months after I got my 720.... cleaning contacts & making sure the springs were out fixed it. A month or two later it happened again. This time contacts/springs were not the problem.

Removing the battery,cleaning internal battery and contacts and reinstalling fixed that.

Been flawless ever since.

Try that.

Try that.
Will do. Thanks!

Removing the battery,cleaning internal battery and contacts and reinstalling fixed that.
Wow. This worked.

Thank you, thank you!! :)

Wow. This worked.

Thank you, thank you!! :)

Very cool. Glad to hear!!

So what exactly can I do with this remote? I know it controls all my devices obv. Is there anything else it does or is it too mutch to ask for a remote lol. Hmm Can it like lets say I want to play 360, can the remote turn on the tv, change it to the right input, turn on the receiver, etc.

So what exactly can I do with this remote? I know it controls all my devices obv. Is there anything else it does or is it too mutch to ask for a remote lol. Hmm Can it like lets say I want to play 360, can the remote turn on the tv, change it to the right input, turn on the receiver, etc.
It will turn on the 360, receiver, TV, and put everything on the correct input. And when you hit the off button will turn everything off. You truly only need one remote when using a Harmony remote.
(while the Harmony can turn the 360 on and off, I prefer to use the 360 controller to turn the 360 on and off and the Harmony takes care of everythng else)

So basically I can add a option that says play 360, and it will do all those things?

So basically I can add a option that says play 360, and it will do all those things?


Yes. You can create an Activity that says "play 360" and it will turn everything on for you and put each device on the proper input.

Alright thanks for the response. I think the money is worth it then, since I have like 7 remotes. Now I will have to decide between the 720 or the one. BTW do you know if it will be able to learn a command to turn my fan on since that has a control too.

Alright thanks for the response. I think the money is worth it then, since I have like 7 remotes. Now I will have to decide between the 720 or the one. BTW do you know if it will be able to learn a command to turn my fan on since that has a control too.

Yes - if the online database doesn't have the command set for your fan already, you can do the ol' face the remotes towards each other and learn the commands

I think the money is worth it then, since I have like 7 remotes. Now I will have to decide between the 720 or the one.

You might wanna look closely at the One. I just ordered one myself. I love the functionality of the 720, but I was never too crazy about the buttons. The One looks much better in that regard -- at least according to my preferences.

You might wanna look closely at the One. I just ordered one myself. I love the functionality of the 720, but I was never too crazy about the buttons. The One looks much better in that regard -- at least according to my preferences.
+1, I just orderd a Harmony One also.

The Harmony one can learn commands too right?

Yes, they all can

Alright thanks for the response. I think the money is worth it then, since I have like 7 remotes. Now I will have to decide between the 720 or the one. BTW do you know if it will be able to learn a command to turn my fan on since that has a control too.

So long as the fan does not work on an RF signal. Just by looking at the remote, know that if it is a solid remote, that is, that it has no window for the signal to leave out of the remote and/or visible transmitting "plastic bulbs" then it's safe to say that your remote is RF and won't work with the harmony. For example, all Hunter fans are RF and don't work. However, if your remote is an IR type then it will be controlled by the Harmony.

Either way, I have an RF fan made by Hunter. so that's off my list of things controlled, but my entire TV setup and my mini-split AC unit are all controlled by the remote. It's really cool and I highly recommend it.

I love the "ooooh's and aaaaaah's" from guys.... and rolling of the eyes from women, when I demo my setup by first dimming the lights from my chair! :D

I love the "ooooh's and aaaaaah's" from guys.... and rolling of the eyes from women, when I demo my setup by first dimming the lights from my chair! :D

That's the same reaction I get with dimming the lights...To think I could have saved many thousands of $$ on Projector/Screen/Amps/Speakers/Sub and gotten the same response with just the lights! :D

-t

I love the "ooooh's and aaaaaah's" from guys.... and rolling of the eyes from women, when I demo my setup by first dimming the lights from my chair! :D

Speaking of lighting... I have a relatively cheap, yet effective dimmer that does not have "scenes" that are programmable. The only "one touch" type effect is to recover to full brightness. I have a macro set up for when you hit stop or pause that brings up the lights, but I'd like to program one into the play button to dim the lights. I haven't tried it yet, but how would I go about programming a 4 or 5 second signal duration to mimic holding the dim botton for 4 or 5 seconds?

Is there anyway to have the 720 remote change the aspect on the TV on an Activity switch? For instance, whenever I play Wii...it starts the TV in 4:3 mode (even though widescreen/480p/component is selected in the Wii settings). I have to manually change the aspect to properly view in widescreen each time. Anyway to make this automatic? Thanks.

Is there anyway to have the 720 remote change the aspect on the TV on an Activity switch? For instance, whenever I play Wii...it starts the TV in 4:3 mode (even though widescreen/480p/component is selected in the Wii settings). I have to manually change the aspect to properly view in widescreen each time. Anyway to make this automatic? Thanks.

Yes, you can add that into the sequence using the wizard. I'm not sure the exact action you take in the wizard, but it you should be able to do it fairly easily. I have an activity called "Silent TV". It is just like my other "Watch TV" activity, but it takes the extra step to send my TV the command that turns off the speakers (so I can listen through my headphones).

Yes, you can add that into the sequence using the wizard. I'm not sure the exact action you take in the wizard, but it you should be able to do it fairly easily. I have an activity called "Silent TV". It is just like my other "Watch TV" activity, but it takes the extra step to send my TV the command that turns off the speakers (so I can listen through my headphones).

I feel kind of stupid, but I am not seeing an option on how to do this in the wizard. It just asks me about all the inputs and what controls what, but I can't find anywhere to add a specific button press into the Activity. Thanks.

After you get the initial setup done it should ask you if everything looks right. There should be a selection that says something like "Yes but I want to add additional commands". Click on that and it will run through the initial setup questions again (I don't know why, and I find that very annoying), then it will take you to a screen where you can add a command to any of the devices used in that activity. Select your TV and send whatever command you need to send to change the aspect ratio.

Before you do this, you may want to look in your TV's manual. Most TVs have a setting where they can remember what aspect ratio should be used on each input. You might have this setting turned off. Turning it on may keep you from having to change your remote setup at all.

Much appreciated, will give both items a try when I get home this evening.

I feel kind of stupid, but I am not seeing an option on how to do this in the wizard. It just asks me about all the inputs and what controls what, but I can't find anywhere to add a specific button press into the Activity. Thanks.

In the Logitech Harmony Remote Software 7, select button "Settings" for the activity you want to add the command. Then, select "Review the settings for this activity", then "Yes, but I want to add more control of options and devices for this activity", change nothing and click "Save". Click "Next" until asked "Please review the actions for your xxxx activity:". In the "Add action for", select the device you want to send a command at the start of the activity and then click "Add>" and follow the wizard.

Benoit

My 720 has worked flawlessly since I purchased it last year. I began experiencing problems updating the remote yesterday, after I set up a new activity. Telephone support was excellent, transferring me to second level after the first tech exhausted his ability and resolving the issue immediately at the second level. I had read that was the case, but was impressed to find it's true. Way to go Logitech!

So what was the RESOLUTION? - Please Share!

My 720 has worked flawlessly since I purchased it last year. I began experiencing problems updating the remote yesterday, after I set up a new activity. Telephone support was excellent, transferring me to second level after the first tech exhausted his ability and resolving the issue immediately at the second level. I had read that was the case, but was impressed to find it's true. Way to go Logitech!

During my last device add my Harmony 720 started selecting the wrong input on my projector instead of HDMI for all related activities. Everything in the wizard showed it would select HDMI, but it always selected the wrong input (PC RGB). I tried everything to no avail.

I emailed tech support one night with a detailed, one paragraph description of the problem. The next morning an email from a tech instructed me that he corrected the problem. He asked me to login and update the remote. Sure enough, everything works perfectly now.

Great service.

Has anyone actually purchased a 720 for 129 at costco? Online it says they are 179 -- membership has nothing to do with it -- price online assumes you have a membership. If you don't then when you check-out they will add 5 percent to the cost of the ITEM.

Best price I am seeing now is 179 - and for that price I can just about get a "ONE" - does anyone have a better deal?

Costco - $120

So what was the RESOLUTION? - Please Share!
They just went in and corrected the problem. I was trying to add a new activity and accidentally indicated there was a new or different A/V receiver. They were able to delete this and everything worked fine.

My 720 lcd screen as gone black, any way of reseting or any sugestions?

Has anyone actually purchased a 720 for 129 at costco? Online it says they are 179 -- membership has nothing to do with it -- price online assumes you have a membership. If you don't then when you check-out they will add 5 percent to the cost of the ITEM.

Best price I am seeing now is 179 - and for that price I can just about get a "ONE" - does anyone have a better deal?

I guess I lucked-out when I picked up mine. It was about a year and a half ago and I was at Wal Mart. They had the 720 clearance priced for $89. I should have gotten 2 at that price (hindsight is 20/20.)

Our Harmony 680 just went kaput (after unlimited number of drops on the hardwoord floor by the kiddos) and I am thinking about getting The One to replace the 720 in the media room, then using the 720 to replace the broken 680... only problem is that the wife hates the 720.

Back on topic- try your local Wal Mart.

Has anyone actually purchased a 720 for 129 at costco? Online it says they are 179 -- membership has nothing to do with it -- price online assumes you have a membership. If you don't then when you check-out they will add 5 percent to the cost of the ITEM.

Best price I am seeing now is 179 - and for that price I can just about get a "ONE" - does anyone have a better deal?

Just picked up the last one for $99 at my local Costco.

Returning the 720 to Costco. I tried to like it but the clicking from the directional/volume/channel buttons drove me mad. I thought the software and programability were excellent, however. Maybe the Harmony ONE will have quieter buttons.

EDIT: It does (a little, anyways).

Light Dimmer Lutron MIR-ITFS no longer working with my harmony 720

I just replaced my DVD player and while updating my 720 I upgraded to the latest software and now my Light Dimmer no longer works. I had it set up where the light came on when pausing my sat, dvd or tuner card and going out when hitting "Play". The light now comes on and stays on when I select one of the above "Activities" and doesn't go out until I exit that activity. Pause or Play doesn't do anything. I've had my 720 since Dec. 06 and never had a problem programming it but I can't figure out how to get this to work right. It still sees the light dimmer as a device. I noticed the new software allows setting a "Sequence". I tried adding a play and pause sequence to the above activities but that didn't help. So if someone would be kind enough to let me know how to program the 720 for my light dimmer I would really appreciate it.

Thanks, Louis

You would have had to have a sequence programmed to do this before. It's likely that the sequence or links to the sequence were lost with the update. Can you confirm that the "light controller" device still controls your dimmer? If it does, create a sequence in each activity (which it sounds like you've done) and then customize the buttons for that activity, ensuring you set the new sequence to a function button. So, for example, in your "Watch DVD" activity, add a sequence called "PauseBright" that pauses the DVD and then brings the dimmer to full bright. Then, customize the buttons for the "Watch DVD" activity, select the Pause button and select "Sequence" as the device and select "PauseBright" from the list. That should do it. Remember, you'll need to do this for each activity.

You would have had to have a sequence programmed to do this before. It's likely that the sequence or links to the sequence were lost with the update. Can you confirm that the "light controller" device still controls your dimmer? If it does, create a sequence in each activity (which it sounds like you've done) and then customize the buttons for that activity, ensuring you set the new sequence to a function button. So, for example, in your "Watch DVD" activity, add a sequence called "PauseBright" that pauses the DVD and then brings the dimmer to full bright. Then, customize the buttons for the "Watch DVD" activity, select the Pause button and select "Sequence" as the device and select "PauseBright" from the list. That should do it. Remember, you'll need to do this for each activity.

Thanks!! I now have everything working.

You would have had to have a sequence programmed to do this before. It's likely that the sequence or links to the sequence were lost with the update. Can you confirm that the "light controller" device still controls your dimmer? If it does, create a sequence in each activity (which it sounds like you've done) and then customize the buttons for that activity, ensuring you set the new sequence to a function button. So, for example, in your "Watch DVD" activity, add a sequence called "PauseBright" that pauses the DVD and then brings the dimmer to full bright. Then, customize the buttons for the "Watch DVD" activity, select the Pause button and select "Sequence" as the device and select "PauseBright" from the list. That should do it. Remember, you'll need to do this for each activity.

Maybe Harmony should pay you! I mean, you respond within EXACTLY 45 minutes and solve the problem. Heck, my touting Harmony's tech support earlier is now completely erroneous due to the fact that the software "upgrades" killed my projector's input select.

Dropped my 720 on the hard floor last night. Everything still works except that the LCD will not go out. Light is always on. Can this be repaired?

Does anyone know if there are discreet codes for an Onkyo 605 to set the volume level? All my components now reside at the back of the room and I have to crane my neck to see where it's at and adjust from there.

I know my Onkyo 805 has a volume setting you can set for when you turn it on, but there is no IR command that I have found that will set it to a certain volume level, which I think is what you are asking about. If it's not on the 805 I highly doubt the 605 has it.

Dropped my 720 on the hard floor last night. Everything still works except that the LCD will not go out. Light is always on. Can this be repaired?

Call Logitech and ask if you can warranty replace it. Long shot,but that seems to be the only option. I seriously doubt that they are "repairable.

Call Logitech and ask if you can warranty replace it. Long shot,but that seems to be the only option. I seriously doubt that they are "repairable.

Have you placed it back on the cradle and reconnected to it via your PC?
Then uncheck/check the timeout values for how long the LCD screen stays active and save the config and upload back to the 720.

Worth a shot. Then if it fails call Logitech.

-t

I know my Onkyo 805 has a volume setting you can set for when you turn it on, but there is no IR command that I have found that will set it to a certain volume level, which I think is what you are asking about. If it's not on the 805 I highly doubt the 605 has it.

The 605 has a 'power on' volume and 'max volume' setting like the 805. I've read of some receivers haveing IR codes that aren't published or not part of the remote... probably used for internal testing and such. I may contact Onkyo and see what they say. Worth a shot.

hello

I've had this remote for 6 months without problems.
Haven't changed the activities in a few months and all worked great.

Yesterday i noticed as it was lying on the sofa the screen would light up periodically, although it was not moving at all. I started looking to check what was hapenning...
While it's on an activity it will go back to the activity selection screen (as if i pressed the activity button)... then sometimes after a few more minutes it goes back to the activity screen again.
After going back, sometimes the commands will work then... sometimes not. I have to pick a different activity, then repick the original one and it will work.

Also sometimes it will start restarting on its own... saying testing, etc, like if i had removed the battery.

Can this be hardware failure? anyway to reset the software to try to solve this or only the tech support may help?
Almost seems like the activity button is broken and keeps pressing itself generating all these problems.

thanks for any help
cheers
L.

Have you checked the batteries? They could be dead, or not be making very good contact.

It wouldn't hurt to update the remote using the software. No need to change any settings just update the remote again. Every now and then the internal memory can get a little screwy, updating the remote will fix that.

So after doing my research here (and elsewhere), and determining the H1 was too expensive for me, I went ahead and bought a 720 over Ebay. It arrived yesterday, new in package, and one of the things I was curious to find out is whether or not the labels under the transport buttons would wear off (I figured this problem was long solved, and any units that had this early problem would be long gone). Well, to my surprise, THERE ARE NO LABELS UNDER THE TRANSPORT BUTTONS!

Everything I had read described how the label problem was fixed, and that labels were no longer wearing. I never read anywhere that subsequently Logitech removed the labels. Did I miss something (other than the labels on my remote;))?

Scott

Everything I had read described how the label problem was fixed, and that labels were no longer wearing. I never read anywhere that subsequently Logitech removed the labels. Did I miss something (other than the labels on my remote;))?

You missed the news, although it probably wasn't has highlighted as the original problem. Logitech solved the issue of the labels wearing off the case but simply not putting them there anymore.

I don't miss the labels at all, but my lovely bride doesn't use the remote enough for her to have learned the international symbols for the transport functions.

Well, my battery died after about a year or so of use. I found a replacement on Amazon.com for $21.99 w/ free shipping. Any better deals out there anyone has found? This is nearly half the price BestBuy is charging w/shipping and they list them as back-ordered. Most other sites with good prices list it as out of stock.

Well, my battery died after about a year or so of use. I found a replacement on Amazon.com for $21.99 w/ free shipping. Any better deals out there anyone has found? This is nearly half the price BestBuy is charging w/shipping and they list them as back-ordered. Most other sites with good prices list it as out of stock.As you have already found, a quick check of Google Shopping shows that anyone that appears to sell the battery for less also says they are "out of stock". So unless other folks chime in with their advanced shopping skills, it would appear you have the best price.

FWIW: A year seems pretty quick to have your battery die on you.
I got my Harmony 720 in June of 2006 and the battery appears to still be going strong. The 720 is kept on the coffee table until the indicator gets down to one bar and then it is put in the cradle to charge up overnight. This is probably done every five days or so and I have vague memories that it used to be more than a week.

I thought it seemed quick too. All of a sudden the charge just registered one bar and the message "low battery" started showing up. I cleaned contacts but no change.

It typically ends up on the charger every night. Is that bad for Li batteries?

I thought it seemed quick too. All of a sudden the charge just registered one bar and the message "low battery" started showing up. I cleaned contacts but no change.

It typically ends up on the charger every night. Is that bad for Li batteries?

I think it's recommended to only charge when the battery is low and just for the time needed to recharge...so I do as Ladd does and only charge the unit when down to 1 bar on the screen. I only charge it for a few hours.

So far ( knock on wood ) It's been working fine.

-t

So I got the new battery and discovered it wasn't charging either. After fiddling around with the remote in the charger (despite having already done that, or so I thought!) I discovered that it just wasn't making proper contact. Not sure what changed but think the contacts have just worn down enough from constantly being in and out of the base that now I have to make sure it's truly making contact.

Oh well, lesson learned. I guess the worst of it is I have a spare battery when the original finally does die. From now on I'm just going to place the remote on the charger base when needed. I never realized how quickly this battery recharges, as I never paid attention to that function before due to the way I was using it.

At first I was afraid, when the new battery wasn't taking a charge, that the circuit in my 720 was dead and that set-off a minor panic. Just a few days of using multiple remotes again quickly reminded my how much I love this unit!

So I got the new battery and discovered it wasn't charging either. After fiddling around with the remote in the charger (despite having already done that, or so I thought!) I discovered that it just wasn't making proper contact. Not sure what changed but think the contacts have just worn down enough from constantly being in and out of the base that now I have to make sure it's truly making contact.

Oh well, lesson learned. I guess the worst of it is I have a spare battery when the original finally does die. From now on I'm just going to place the remote on the charger base when needed. I never realized how quickly this battery recharges, as I never paid attention to that function before due to the way I was using it.

At first I was afraid, when the new battery wasn't taking a charge, that the circuit in my 720 was dead and that set-off a minor panic. Just a few days of using multiple remotes again quickly reminded my how much I love this unit!


where did you get the battery from?

thx

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-994-000033-Replacement-Battery-H880/dp/B001AO4NYO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1223146158&sr=8-1

$21.99 w/free shipping from BuyNow. Turnaround was fast from order to delivery.

The 720 uses the same battery as the 880/890.

If I recall corrrectly, the charger terminals are spring-loaded; perhaps one or both of them needs adjusting?

If I recall corrrectly, the charger terminals are spring-loaded; perhaps one or both of them needs adjusting?

That could be. I've never looked at pulling the base apart to see if I could accomplish that. The terminals still do spring up/remain under tension. There is visible wear on the remote terminal contacts as well. I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies, but now that I know I just have to be careful and make sure it's making a good connection when I place it in the cradle, I think it will be okay.

BTW, I do appreciate the advice on proper care and feeding of Li batteries. Now that I have this new battery and have charged it once, is it going to be okay to just put it way or should I put a charge on it periodically to keep it alive? Any thoughts?

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EDIT: Decided to quit being lazy and found this on wiki. Seems like sound advice.

It is significantly beneficial to avoid storing a lithium-ion battery at full charge. A Li-ion battery stored at 40% charge will last many times longer than one stored at 100% charge, particularly at higher temperatures.[21]

If a Li-ion battery is stored with too low a charge, there is a risk of allowing the charge to drop below the battery's low-voltage threshold, resulting in an unrecoverable dead battery. Once the charge has dropped to this level, recharging it can be dangerous. Some batteries therefore feature an internal safety circuit which will prevent charging in this state, and the battery will be for all practical purposes dead.[citation needed]

In circumstances where a second Li-ion battery is available for a given device, it is recommended that the unused battery be discharged to 40% and placed in the refrigerator to prolong its shelf life. While the battery can be used or charged immediately, some Li-ion batteries will provide more energy when brought to room temperature.

Nice table from BatteryUniversity.com: http://batteryuniversity.com/partone-19.htm

So I checked this thread and nutn.

Does anyone hear have a recent Denon receiver.? I ask because my 720 does not allow me to have the night mode button on it. It's weird. Its the only button, I believe, does not allow me to set on the 720. Anybody have any suggestions?

So I checked this thread and nutn.

Does anyone hear have a recent Denon receiver.? I ask because my 720 does not allow me to have the night mode button on it. It's weird. Its the only button, I believe, does not allow me to set on the 720. Anybody have any suggestions?

What do you mean "does not allow me to have the night mode button"? You should be able to set any button on the 720 to any button you have on your original remote. If you don't see the "night mode" in the list of possible selections when you customize the buttons for the activities that use your receiver, then you'll have to use the "learn" functionality.

Describe what you're trying to do and we can help you out.

I have a Denon 4306. Night mode showed up on my 720 from the Harmony DB (page 8 of the default list) and works on a Dolby decoded (bitstreamed legacy since the 4306 only takes LPCM over HDMNI). There should be a light on the front panel of the Denon which indicates if Night Mode is on or not.

Ahh, I see the problem. On every one of my components I have things in the list that don't do squat. You may have to hook up the 720 and manually learn that IR signal from your original remote. Go into your "Devices" and choose the Denon and "troubleshoot" or "customize buttons" (can't remember exactly how to get there). Somewhere in there you should be able to learn an IR signal. Now, I'm not sure if that affects the "night button" on all your activities. It should, but first confirm it works using just the device on the 720, then check it for your activities.

Of course, this is all means nothing if it doesn't work with your original remote ;)

I have a Denon 4306. Night mode showed up on my 720 from the Harmony DB (page 8 of the default list) and works on a Dolby decoded (bitstreamed legacy since the 4306 only takes LPCM over HDMNI). There should be a light on the front panel of the Denon which indicates if Night Mode is on or not.

Night mode was in the list for my 2807. I never use it, but, it is there.

My 720 is less than one year old and the channel up (+) button requires pressing it harder than other buttons. It clicks like all of the other silver buttons in the middle, but doesn't actually send a signal unless you press it slightly harder than just hard enough to make it click.

The problem isn't real bad yet, but my concern is if it will get worse. Has anyone else had one or more buttons begin to fail like this? This remote really hasn't even gotten that much use, so I'm surprised that the button is wearing out this soon. Could this be a warranty claim for replacement? I got it last December from walmart.com.

My 720 is less than one year old and the channel up (+) button requires pressing it harder than other buttons. It clicks like all of the other silver buttons in the middle, but doesn't actually send a signal unless you press it slightly harder than just hard enough to make it click.

The problem isn't real bad yet, but my concern is if it will get worse. Has anyone else had one or more buttons begin to fail like this? This remote really hasn't even gotten that much use, so I'm surprised that the button is wearing out this soon. Could this be a warranty claim for replacement? I got it last December from walmart.com.

Call support and ask. I'd rather deal with this now... in warranty.

Thanks much - I was able to find the receipt from walmart.com and just e-mailed support everything I could think that they might need to know to get this going.

Has anyone had any success controlling a Directv HR21-700 with a Harmony 720 remote? I have had no luck so far.

Has anyone had any success controlling a Directv HR21-700 with a Harmony 720 remote? I have had no luck so far.

What's the problem? If it receives an IR signal, this thing can control it. It appears that the box will do IR or RF. You may have to configure it to communicate on IR... That's all my 20 second search on Google got me :)

I wanted to provide an update on how Logitech is handling the warranty claim on my 720 with one button that doesn't work well without pushing it harder. I submitted via e-mail a query on how to repair or replace it on Thu Oct 16, and after a couple of e-mail dialogs back and forth, today (Tue Oct 21) they responded stating that they are sending me a new one, disabling my old one from being updated, and asking that I simply discard the old one. Couldn't ask for better service than that. The only thing one might think is that they would want to get the old one back to analyze why it failed to improve their product in the future.

Is this still a 'good' remote?

I picked one up online for $120 shipped.

Is this still a 'good' remote?

I picked one up online for $120 shipped.

Still love mine...

-t

Is this still a 'good' remote?

I picked one up online for $120 shipped.

And the shape of the 720 looks way more professional than the 880.

"Professional"?

One is a Paddle and the other is a Peanut.

"Professional," I guess is in the eye of the beholder.

Well, got it all programmed, and its working great.

Havent done anything too 'technical' with it yet, but it does do everything I need, and makes life easier for the girlfriend.

I noticed that the 720 is not on Logitech's website anymore. Has it been discontinued? should I even bother getting this remote or go for a different model?

I should say that after reading and review, the 720 looks to be just about what I need with a bit of room to grow.

Rob

I noticed that the 720 is not on Logitech's website anymore. Has it been discontinued? should I even bother getting this remote or go for a different model?

I should say that after reading and review, the 720 looks to be just about what I need with a bit of room to grow.

Rob

I'm getting ready to upgrade my 720 to a new Harmony One.

I noticed that the 720 is not on Logitech's website anymore. Has it been discontinued? should I even bother getting this remote or go for a different model?

I don't know if the 720 was ever on LogiTech's website. I bought one for my parents about a year and a half ago, and it wasn't listed there at that time either. I had read at the time that it was because it was only distributed to select retailers and as a result wasn't on the site.

Logitech has a pile of remotes. Many of them are not on the site. I agree with Craig... I don't think the 720 was ever on the site.

The 720 is only available at major stores - Sears, Costco and such.

I have one and like it very much.

I am looking at getting the 720 and I was wondering from hearing about some complaints about clicking noise from the channel and volume buttons, is there a way to set the remote up to use the two arrow buttons above the round area as either channel switches or volume control? Thanks.

SNSGUY

I am looking at getting the 720 and I was wondering from hearing about some complaints about clicking noise from the channel and volume buttons, is there a way to set the remote up to use the two arrow buttons above the round area as either channel switches or volume control? Thanks.

SNSGUY

After over a year of hating that clicking sound... I just upgraded my 720 to a Harmony One. If you can afford the few extra $$$'s - I'd suggest that. The clicking drove me nuts :)

Also, the silver square with the 4-way directional arrows and the OK key stated getting flakey. It seems like the contacts are starting to fail.

BTW.. you can map/remap almost any key on the remote to any function you'd like. This is pretty much true for all Harmony's.

I am looking at getting the 720 and I was wondering from hearing about some complaints about clicking noise from the channel and volume buttons, is there a way to set the remote up to use the two arrow buttons above the round area as either channel switches or volume control? Thanks.

SNSGUY

I've had my 720 for over two years and have never been bothered by the clicking noise. I think that complaint is a bit of a stretch. The 720 is far and away the best Harmony remote from a price/performance standpoint. I'm sure the Harmony One is nicer but not at an additional $120. The 720 will most likely do everything you need.

The 720 is far and away the best Harmony remote from a price/performance standpoint. I'm sure the Harmony One is nicer but not at an additional $120. The 720 will most likely do everything you need.

All true!

I probably would have lived with the clicking, if it didn't start acting up with arrow/OK combination buttons.

I am looking at getting the 720 and I was wondering from hearing about some complaints about clicking noise from the channel and volume buttons, is there a way to set the remote up to use the two arrow buttons above the round area as either channel switches or volume control? Thanks.

SNSGUY

You can set the up/down arrows to anything you please, I'm using them as "Favorite channels scroll" and "return to previous" on "watch HDTV mode" on "DVD recorder mode" they are setup as "15 sec skip" and so on..

To me the 'click' noise is not important, what bothers me more is that these buttons don't have the same "feel" as the rest.......

After over a year of hating that clicking sound... I just upgraded my 720 to a Harmony One. If you can afford the few extra $$$'s - I'd suggest that. The clicking drove me nuts :)

Also, the silver square with the 4-way directional arrows and the OK key stated getting flakey. It seems like the contacts are starting to fail.

BTW.. you can map/remap almost any key on the remote to any function you'd like. This is pretty much true for all Harmony's.

What do you mean by the keys becoming flaky? Thanks everyone for your responses. I would like the Harmony 1 just to much money. What about the 880 in comparison? I need to choose one soon here just not sure which. I like the look of the 720 but the 880 looks a little more functional. I just want to make sure that the 720 is as good as people say. I know there have been mixed review on both the 720 and te 880. Thanks.

SNSGUY

What do you mean by the keys becoming flaky? Thanks everyone for your responses. I would like the Harmony 1 just to much money. What about the 880 in comparison? I need to choose one soon here just not sure which. I like the look of the 720 but the 880 looks a little more functional. I just want to make sure that the 720 is as good as people say. I know there have been mixed review on both the 720 and te 880. Thanks.

SNSGUY

Keep in mind that "your mileage may vary" and everything depends on your usage and how hard you press on the keys and/or how many times it falls on the floor and/or how many times you drain the battery before remembering to charge it....lots of stuff like that. Which is why you'll see so many different reviews here in this forum for how each of us who owns one, likes or dislikes it. For some the button clicks are big deal, others, not so much.
Others have issues with the brightness of the LCD screen, others the location of the buttons. It's really YOU who has to judge best. Buy it from a dealer who will let you return it if you don't like it.

I've had mine for many months now and I can't think of how I'd be without it. Actually, I can, but it's too painful to remember the juggling act of using up to 5 remotes to watch a DVD or HD broadcast. :D

I'm trying to remember if the Harmony site had a 'test drive' web page for the remote. It may be in this thread in the beginning somewhere or do a search on test drive in this thread and see if pops up.

-t

What do you mean by the keys becoming flaky? Thanks everyone for your responses. I would like the Harmony 1 just to much money. What about the 880 in comparison? I need to choose one soon here just not sure which. I like the look of the 720 but the 880 looks a little more functional. I just want to make sure that the 720 is as good as people say. I know there have been mixed review on both the 720 and te 880. Thanks.

SNSGUY

In the center of the remote, there are 4 arrow keys surrounding an "OK" button. On mine, the left arrow and the OK do not always "click" - meaning that when you press them, they do not activate the function. It feels like the spring mechanism under the keys is ajar or loose - sometimes causing those buttons to be non-responsive.

The 720 is as good as people say - rest assured. It is a great remote and well worth the money. In fact, it's a bargain!!!!

I've had mine over a year and I do really like it. Now that it needs replacing (all things eventually do) - I got the One. If the One were not available... I'd get another 720 in a heartbeat!!!

Is the One worth $100+ more than the 720???? You have to make that call, I can't do that for ya. For me... it was. But, again, if the One was not available, I'd have a brand new 720 right now.

Between the 880 and the 720... another no brainer - the 720, hands down! It feels good, looks good and has all the functionality of the 880. When I first got my 720, I compared it to the 880.

You'll be very happy with the 720 :)

Before I pull the triger and buy the 720 I have another question. When I select an Icon suck as watch DVD will it automatically turn on the tv change it to the correct input on my Samsung 650 turn the Bluray player on then turn the reciever on and change it to the correct input also? Or will I have to manually change the inputs on the tv and the reciever?

SNSGUY

The 720 will do exactly what you want it to do.

It will change to the correct input on a TV and also on a receiver/controller.

The 720 will do exactly what you want it to do.

It will change to the correct input on a TV and also on a receiver/controller.

Nifty thanks for all your input. I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a warranty for it to since people seem to have buttons stop working. It's 15 bucks for a year or 22 for two years so if anything happens to it they will either fix it or give me the money that I paid for it. That way I can use it towards a better one down the road. Thanks for everyone's help. You'll probably see me soon with some questions about the unit. :D

SNSGUY

Forogt one last thing. Is the remote backlit. I've read some things say it is some say it isn't. Thanks.

SNSGUY

Edit: I figured out it is finally from some real reviews of the thing.

Nifty thanks for all your input. I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a warranty for it to since people seem to have buttons stop working. It's 15 bucks for a year or 22 for two years so if anything happens to it they will either fix it or give me the money that I paid for it. That way I can use it towards a better one down the road. Thanks for everyone's help. You'll probably see me soon with some questions about the unit. :D

SNSGUY

You may want to pass on the warranty. I say that because Logitech will replace the remote if it breaks. The left arrow stopped working on my 720 (I have 3 kids, do the math), called Logitech, they sent me a brand new one.

Just my two cents.

You may want to pass on the warranty. I say that because Logitech will replace the remote if it breaks. The left arrow stopped working on my 720 (I have 3 kids, do the math), called Logitech, they sent me a brand new one.

Just my two cents.

Ummm... they will replace it - within the one year warranty - for free. After the warranty period runs out, you are on your own!

My 720 started crapping out after about 16 months... they offered to "fix" it for a fee. I spoke with several levels of support and supervisors... no luck. No complaints, mind you. It would have been nice if they did something, but I am not upset. It was, after all, out of warranty.

I'm not a big fan of extended warranty. But, I got bit on this one :)

So, I lit $12 on fire and purchased the 2 year extended warranty (3 years total) on the replacement H-1 that I just got. If that keeps the gremlins away for 3 years - LOL - it was worth it (not really, I know). Generally, extended warranties are a waste of $$$.

Ummm... they will replace it - within the one year warranty - for free. After the warranty period runs out, you are on your own!

My 720 started crapping out after about 16 months... they offered to "fix" it for a fee. I spoke with several levels of support and supervisors... no luck. No complaints, mind you. It would have been nice if they did something, but I am not upset. It was, after all, out of warranty.

I'm not a big fan of extended warranty. But, I got bit on this one :)

So, I lit $12 on fire and purchased the 2 year extended warranty (3 years total) on the replacement H-1 that I just got. If that keeps the gremlins away for 3 years - LOL - it was worth it (not really, I know). Generally, extended warranties are a waste of $$$.

I went for the warranty due to the fact it's a refurbished one and they only covered 3 months. I saved a butload on the remote itself. $55!!! So I went ahed and spent the 20 to have it covered for two years. Tha way I feel like I'm safe just in case. :D

SNSGUY

I went for the warranty due to the fact it's a refurbished one and they only covered 9 months. I saved a butload on the remote itself. $55!!! So I went ahed and spent the 20 to have it covered for two years. Tha way I feel like I'm safe just in case. :D

SNSGUY

Sounds like a good deal!!!

Good luck,you're gonna love the 720 :)

Thanks I thought so. Should be getting it sometime this week. I'm looking forward to it and spending hours on fine tuning it. I got My LCD TVa montha and a half ago and I'm still fine tuning it. :D

SNSGUY

I saved a butload on the remote itself. $55!!! Good price! Where did you find it at that price?

Good price! Where did you find it at that price?

Ebay. I did the 25% off cash back through Microsoft Live. I have to wait to see the money back but no biggy for me. I actually just got the remote in the mail about an hour ago. I'm letting it chare and then I'm on my way.

SNSGUY

Ebay. I did the 25% off cash back through Microsoft Live. I have to wait to see the money back but no biggy for me. I actually just got the remote in the mail about an hour ago. I'm letting it chare and then I'm on my way.

SNSGUY

Have fun! It's a great remote!! You'll spend the rest of the weekend trying different scenarios and not even notice the time lost. :D

-t

So I got the 720 and so far it's awesome. Only compplaint is the screen has some clouding that's kind of annoying. I am having problem with only one thing. My tv Sammy 650, take a few seconds to start so when it tried to do the input the remote is trying to do it before the television even gets tot he inputs. So then I have to constantly press help for it tio change the input. Is there a way to delay when it's trying to change the input when the tv turns on? Thanks.

SNSGUY

So I got the 720 and so far it's awesome. Only compplaint is the screen has some clouding that's kind of annoying. I am having problem with only one thing. My tv Sammy 650, take a few seconds to start so when it tried to do the input the remote is trying to do it before the television even gets tot he inputs. So then I have to constantly press help for it tio change the input. Is there a way to delay when it's trying to change the input when the tv turns on? Thanks.

SNSGUY

Try different Power On Delays. Keep increasing the delay time until it works well for you.

If you still have problems, call Logitech/Harmony's techs for help.

Enjoy the 720 - I have one and love it!

Try different Power On Delays. Keep increasing the delay time until it works well for you.

If you still have problems, call Logitech/Harmony's techs for help.

Enjoy the 720 - I have one and love it!

How do you do that I can't find a manual for this thing.

SNSGUY

The user's manual can be accessed via the Logitech/Harmony Web site you use to
set-up the remote.

Thanks I found it.

SNSGUY

Is it okay to leave the remote in the cradle over night or will that decrease the life of the battery? What about using the slideshow while it's on the cradle, will that hurt the screen being left on for an extended period of time? By the way I love the remote and It was pretty easy to setup once I knew where stuff was. Thanks.

SNSGUY

Once again, all the answers are on the Logitech/Harmony's Web site.

The answers are:

1. Yes - it's OK

2. No.

Once again, all the answers are on the Logitech/Harmony's Web site.

The answers are:

1. Yes - it's OK

2. No.

I know what the manual says I did read though it and researched this. But there has been conflicting answers. So therefore I was asking those who have the remote. The manual can say one thing but in reality it may not be that way at all. That's why I asked. Thanks for the response though.

SNSGUY

I know what the manual says I did read though it and researched this. But there has been conflicting answers. So therefore I was asking those who have the remote. The manual can say one thing but in reality it may not be that way at all. That's why I asked. Thanks for the response though.

SNSGUY

Just me but...I only charge it for as long as it takes for the battery indicator to show full charge. Usually within 3-4 hours. Yes, I have left it on there for say 24 hours a couple of times but those were exceptions. I'm sure you've read the various messages in this thread about it.

The slideshow doesn't last long on mine but I think that's configurable and I may have set it that way. It's a cool feature but only works while charging. Again, I think that's configurable. Could be mistaken.

So, have you had fun programming it to do all you want it to do? Minus the dishes??:D

-t

Just me but...I only charge it for as long as it takes for the battery indicator to show full charge. Usually within 3-4 hours. Yes, I have left it on there for say 24 hours a couple of times but those were exceptions. I'm sure you've read the various messages in this thread about it.

The slideshow doesn't last long on mine but I think that's configurable and I may have set it that way. It's a cool feature but only works while charging. Again, I think that's configurable. Could be mistaken.

So, have you had fun programming it to do all you want it to do? Minus the dishes??:D

-t

If it could do the dishes that would be awesome!!!! :D Thanks I think I will only charge it when it needs it. I have left it for a night so that it would fully charge when I first got it. I thought that the slideshow might be configurable. I need to check that out. It's been a lot of fun already getting it working.

SNSGUY

The remote is 'smart', it will only charge the batteries until they are fully charged.

Leaving it charged all the time is the best thing you can do to a modern Li-ion rechargeable battery. Doing it otherwise, e.g. drain it down and then recharge, will actually harm the battery. This applies to your laptop battery, cell phone battery, iPod battery etc.

Leaving it charged all the time is the best thing you can do to a modern Li-ion rechargeable battery. Doing it otherwise, e.g. drain it down and then recharge, will actually harm the battery. This applies to your laptop battery, cell phone battery, iPod battery etc.

Interesting since I did this with my first Ipod Mini and the battery life dimished to only a few minutes within the 1st year. Took it to the Apple store and they replaced the unit, but the tech explicitly said I should only charge it when it needs it - doing what I had done harms the battery.

Also my old Compaq laptop was left plugged in constantly - when I finally unplugged it literally 2 years later (it was my 1st htpc so it never moved normally) the battery no longer worked at all.

Interesting since I did this with my first Ipod Mini and the battery life diminished to only a few minutes within the 1st year.

There is a similar discussion going on in the 880 thread right now.

I found an article about Li-ion batteries (http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm) that states:

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible.

Perhaps the iPod mini didn't use a Li-ion.

As far as your Compaq, the article goes on to state:

A lithium-ion battery in use typically lasts between 2-3 years.

Given that the computer was plugged in for two years it's hard to say when the battery gave up the ghost, but at two years you were on the low end of the standard life expectancy anyway.

The article also states that if stored for prolonged periods the battery should be charged to about 40%. In the Guidelines section of the article it states: "Consider removing the battery from a laptop when running on fixed power." This is probably due to that essentially being long-term storage and you're keeping the battery at 100%.