I am looking to buy an lcd hdtv for my room. The main reason I am looking to buy one is for the next gen of gaming (xbox360 and PS3). Just recently many of the hdtv lcds have gone down in price and you can get a good 32" one for under a grand. I am looking to buy the 32'' lcd made by ilo that is carried by walmart. It looks like a great lcd and is only $867. I have compared the lcd to the other brands similar in shape and size like the RCA, Sanyo, and Polariod. And while this ilo lcd is a little cheaper I seem to like the picture and color it has to the others. At my walmart they have the ilo and sanyo 32' lcds side by side and it seems that the sanyo displays a little bit of a darker and richer color than the ilo does, buy in some areas it seems like it is too dark when compared to the ilo because it seems to me the ilo shows the details better than sanyo plus the ilo has a wider variety of settings you can adjust the screen to for things like color, temp, tint, and hue. plus it has a standard mode, a movie mode, sports mode, user mode etc, while the sanyo either has an auto setup or you can just adjust the settings yourself, thats it. The RCA and Polaroid are okay, but I am leaning toward the ilo 32" lcd more and more, but I have not made up my mind completely.

I have read a few reviews and opnions on the ilo-32hd lcd, but have not found very much. I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me more about it and if anyone owns it, could you please list the pros and cons of owning it and how you think it compares to other lcds.

Keep in mind I am getting this mainly for gaming. I kow it has a response time of 12ms, but I don't think that ghosting will be an issue. If anyone has any experience or knowlege of lcds and gaming in general and can tell me if the ilo-32hd offered by walmart is a good choice or you have any advice on the other lcds I metioned please feel free to post a response. Thanks.

The "pros" on these Ilo sets seem to be the cost and many people think they give pretty good image quality for that price.

The "cons", which are pretty big cons in my opinion are that these TV's have quite poor customer service, almost no track record for the company, and questionable reliability and quality control.

In my opinion, stacked up against almost every Sony, Sharp, Samsung, Panasonic, and probably Westinghouse and Polaroid, its going to perform at a lesser level. I own two Sony LCD's and I am extremely pleased with them, but I also owned a Polaroid LCD (26" model) and was surprised at just how well it displayed images.

Whats your budget, maybe I can offer you some suggestions that aren't too far away from that price of the Ilo.

The Polaroids are surprisingly well dialed in. so long as you know what panel is being used in them they're a pretty decent bargain buy.

The Polaroids are surprisingly well dialed in. so long as you know what panel is being used in them they're a pretty decent bargain buy.

Agreed and thats why I brought them up to him. I think Circuit City has some good prices on them. I would love to tell you what that price is, but because of the rules here that exclude us peons from telling you what those prices are, you will have to look it up for yourself.

Look at the online stores, they are usually alot cheaper than circuit city or best buy.

ILO is either made by Orion or Funai!
Either manufacturer make LCD's for Sony, Sharp, Emerson, Magnavox, Sylvania, Symphonic Broksonic, Durabrand, Insignia, iLO, Memorex, Orion, and Sansui.
Sony uses Samsung to make its lighting.
CMO makes most panels, has a co-op with Sharp to make panels in China and one other Korean and Taiwanese manufacturer.
With now Corning glass coming on strong for the glass.

Its all in the electronics is how one can be better than the rest. The lower you pay, the lower the quality of electronics that is used. The Syntax line is one of very few that only uses others panels and has boughten out companies to make the rest themselves. They bought into Brillian and Kolin to get the most out of the Asian market place and assemble them here.

ILO is either made by Orion or Funai!
Either manufacturer make LCD's for Sony, Sharp, Emerson, Magnavox, Sylvania, Symphonic Broksonic, Durabrand, Insignia, iLO, Memorex, Orion, and Sansui.
Sony uses Samsung to make its lighting.
CMO makes most panels, has a co-op with Sharp to make panels in China and one other Korean and Taiwanese manufacturer.
With now Corning glass coming on strong for the glass.

Its all in the electronics is how one can be better than the rest. The lower you pay, the lower the quality of electronics that is used. The Syntax line is one of very few that only uses others panels and has boughten out companies to make the rest themselves. They bought into Brillian and Kolin to get the most out of the Asian market place and assemble them here.

I don't believe thats entirely true. I've never heard or seen any information that details how Sony relies on Orion or Funai for LCD manufacturing. I know Sharp is outsourcing some of their mid-size LCD TV's to Orion, but Sony is not.

Yeah. My duty here is to save anyone before he or she goes out and blows out all of his or her hard-earned money for a new LCD TV that may not even be worth the high cost. Just remember that Sharp and Toshiba are the only major brands so far to charge their LCD TVs at a premium price, but secretly having the TVs made by a low-end, low-quality manufacturer to boost their profit. It's more like cheating your money from the brand. The rest of the major brands are fine, including JVC, LG, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Sanyo, and Sony. They all make, design, and produce their LCD TVs. You can have confidence with them.

Based on your description on the purple haze the Sharp LC-32D40U puts out, it sounds like to me that the problem is either coming from the power supply or the electronics used by Orion.

Inyoureyes, in the Sharp outsourcing thread noted that Sony in fact does not outsource production of their panels.

http://hometheater.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200312/200312140007.html

That also goes into detail about how they are opening up new manufacturing plants in Korea, to make their TV's.

There is not one manufacturer out there that does EVERYTHING within there own factories.

Even then the link provided is showing a co-op. The locations provided in the link put it in the territory of the Syntax-Brillian joint venture with Kolin.

There is not one manufacturer out there that does EVERYTHING within there own factories.

Even then the link provided is showing a co-op. The locations provided in the link put it in the territory of the Syntax-Brillian joint venture with Kolin.

Riiiiight, but you're claiming they use Orion and Funai for LCD manufacturing and thats just not the case. Neither myself nor Inyoureyes is claiming that every part in a Sony (or any other brand) LCD TV is 100% THAT brand. Obviously partnerships exist and thats fine, however, claiming that Sony is outsourcing their LCD sets to be made by either Orion or Funai is just not true.

Outsourced as its implied, no, outsourced in the form of Co-Op, better believe it!!

Sony can no longer keep its Global dominance in electronics by making everything themselves of in the home land of Japan . Nor can any other Japanese company for that matter. Now were going into politics which is just as bad as religion. Japanese workers no longer work for breadcrumbs nor Japan as a whole. But as we remember Pearl Harbor so does China, Korea and other Asian countries, but to get that nicely bread crumbed labor costs, their getting into bed with other companies and governments just like WE do. A Japanese company CANNOT enter these countries as it stands, beds must be made!!! Will keep it secret, maybe, but never the less its being done!!!

Outsourced as its implied, no, outsourced in the form of Co-Op, better believe it!!

Sony can no longer keep its Global dominance in electronics by making everything themselves of in the home land of Japan . Nor can any other Japanese company for that matter. Now were going into politics which is just as bad as religion. Japanese workers no longer work for breadcrumbs nor Japan as a whole. But as we remember Pearl Harbor so does China, Korea and other Asian countries, but to get that nicely bread crumbed labor costs, their getting into bed with other companies and governments just like WE do. A Japanese company CANNOT enter these countries as it stands, beds must be made!!! Will keep it secret, maybe, but never the less its being done!!!

You seem to almost be backtracking a bit and you still haven't provided evidence to support your original claim. Again though, in big bold caps NOBODY IS CLAIMING THAT EVERY TV MADE BY "BIG COMPANIES" CONTAINS 100% "BIG COMPANY PARTS".

Considering your claims of an LCD manufacturing partnership between Orion and Sony are completely refuted here at AVS, and multiple GIS are fruitless, I would love to see evidence that shows either Funai or Orion building LCD TV's for Sony.

I'm sure Inyoureyes, who pretty much everyone would agree is quite knowledgeable on these types of partnerships, would be interested as well. In the mean time, I am going to go with what I know, that Sony does not outsource to either of those companies, LCD manufacturing. If they did, there would be multiple threads here, and sites on the web, that detail what is made by them, where its made, and what models have screens or other important technology, that is Orion and not Sony.

EDIT - I have no problem admitting I am mistaken, so if you can provide me some documentation detailing how either Orion or Funai makes LCD TV's for Sony, then I will gladly admit you are correct and I was wrong.

I'll let you do the research.

Funai is in bed with Chi Mei. Chi Mei has been making panels for Sony and has completed a deal to sell one of its plants to Sony announced today http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P7795_0_6_0_C

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050107sonyfab/



Taipei Times
Funai signs LCD deal with partner Chi Mei

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/15/1374969.htm

I also stated either company.

Seems like alot of bedtimes!!

I'll let you do the research.

Funai is in bed with Chi Mei. Chi Mei has been making panels for Sony and has completed a deal to sell one of its plants to Sony announced today http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P7795_0_6_0_C

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050107sonyfab/



Taipei Times
Funai signs LCD deal with partner Chi Mei

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/15/1374969.htm

I also stated either company.

Seems like alot of bedtimes!!

The burden of doing research isn't on me, its on you. After all, YOU made the claim, so YOU provide the evidence. I'm not doing any additional searching as I have already Googled the hell out all sorts of different permutations and turned up.......NADA. Those links don't prove anything and they most definitely do not prove that Sony is outsourcing their LCD manufacturing to those companies.

Not sure how it is on other forums, but here at AVS, most people don't make wild accusations without being able to back them up. So, again, until you can prove to us that Sony is outsourcing the LCD builds to those companies, I suggest you stop accusing them of doing that. The only thing worse than no information is mis-information. ;)

I'll let you do the research.

Funai is in bed with Chi Mei. Chi Mei has been making panels for Sony and has completed a deal to sell one of its plants to Sony announced today http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P7795_0_6_0_C

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050107sonyfab/



Taipei Times
Funai signs LCD deal with partner Chi Mei

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/15/1374969.htm

I also stated either company.

Seems like alot of bedtimes!!


You have a very poor argument that you are defending. It is well known that Sony and Samsung have combined to make one large plant for their panels. Chi Mei may be featured on some of the smaller lcd computer monitors, but when it comes to Home Theater HDTVS you are totally off base. Maybe you should try calling the companies and discussing where the panels originate from. Also, saying that the panels made by Chi Mei are used in the assortment of budget brands and also in upper echelon brands is nonsense. It is easy to tell the difference between a poor and good panel. For example, the 32 inch Sharps are made by Orion while the 37 and larger are made by Sharp. Take a look at the two and its pretty obvious that budget panels stick out like a sore thumb. It seems either you are poorly misinformed, trying to start a stupid argument, or trying to defend a "budget" purchase you made.

You have a very poor argument that you are defending. It is well known that Sony and Samsung have combined to make one large plant for their panels. Chi Mei may be featured on some of the smaller lcd computer monitors, but when it comes to Home Theater HDTVS you are totally off base. Maybe you should try calling the companies and discussing where the panels originate from. Also, saying that the panels made by Chi Mei are used in the assortment of budget brands and also in upper echelon brands is nonsense. It is easy to tell the difference between a poor and good panel. For example, the 32 inch Sharps are made by Orion while the 37 and larger are made by Sharp. Take a look at the two and its pretty obvious that budget panels stick out like a sore thumb. It seems either you are poorly misinformed, trying to start a stupid argument, or trying to defend a "budget" purchase you made.

Good post, maybe you can get through to him where I could not.

To answer your last sentence, I would imagine its a blend of all three.

Misinformed, Hardly.
Maybe your the ones trying to protect your higher invested ends, but not here.

http://210.69.121.34/en/news/200604/2006042701.html

Just take every known out there.
The fact Sony is a very large and powerful company.
There isnt enough LCD panels to go around, hence the reasoning for new factories.
Chi-Mei makes the highest resolution panels made to date up to 60 inches, Sony is now buying into them and you can sit right there and tell me Sony makes all their own panels and doesnt sub contract alot of the other crap out either. Ignorance!!!

Misinformed, Hardly.
Maybe your the ones trying to protect your higher invested ends, but not here.

http://210.69.121.34/en/news/200604/2006042701.html

Just take every known out there.
The fact Sony is a very large and powerful company.
There isnt enough LCD panels to go around, hence the reasoning for new factories.
Chi-Mei makes the highest resolution panels made to date up to 60 inches, Sony is now buying into them and you can sit right there and tell me Sony makes all their own panels and doesnt sub contract alot of the other crap out either. Ignorance!!!

Im glad you have resorted to using both poor grammar and personal attacks. Your link you provided mentions they purchased 100 million dollars worth of pc monitors, and are looking into purchasing options for 32 inch lcds. Since this article is from April 27th, these "discussed" panels would not have shown up into their current production line. I would really prefer if you drop the subject because an argument requires more than random link posting combined with the grammar of an elementary school graduate. There is no reason to continue an argument without any solid facts (aka panel part number xxxx was made by yyyy). Thanks.

Misinformed, Hardly.
Maybe your the ones trying to protect your higher invested ends, but not here.

http://210.69.121.34/en/news/200604/2006042701.html

Just take every known out there.
The fact Sony is a very large and powerful company.
There isnt enough LCD panels to go around, hence the reasoning for new factories.
Chi-Mei makes the highest resolution panels made to date up to 60 inches, Sony is now buying into them and you can sit right there and tell me Sony makes all their own panels and doesnt sub contract alot of the other crap out either. Ignorance!!!

I'm going to ask you one more time before I basically drop the hammer on you and call you a liar. So here is your last chance; show us evidence that Sony is using either of those companies for LCD manufacturing. No more vague links that don't address the issue, show us substantive evidence, models, part numbers, documents, actual evidence in black and white, that shows a direct link between the two companies, for LCD TV manufacturing. Otherwise, I suggest you shut up and stop putting mis-information out there, because you are besmirching a companies products that are very highly thought of, very popular here, and its wrong for you to try to BS us.

First off I appreciate all those who replied to my post, and second I am following up on my post to let anyone reading to know more about the ILO-32HD LCD. Let me begin by saying everyone is entitled to their opinion and views on anything, and second just because of what I say in this post does mean you have to agree or disagree, just respect my opinion. That all. With that said lets move on.

I had a chance to test my PS2 on the ILO-32HD last night and I must say I was pretty impressed with it. I also compared it to the Sanyo 32”LCD and Polaroid 32” LCD. First off let me tell you what I used, off course my PS2, I used component hookups and the game Devil May Cry 3 at 480I. The reason I used this game is because it is both graphics heavy and not mention a little dark when it comes to color, a perfect game for testing how well an LCD can show and handle a game.

First of will start with my comparison of the Sanyo, it has great color, but I didn’t like how dark it was and could not see the background of the game that well plus the graphics looked a little choppy. The ILO did not have this problem and showed the background really well when it was in its standard mode, but the color was not as good as the Sanyo’s

Second I compared it with the Polaroid 32” LCD. In my opinion the Polaroid was not as blocking when it came to the game graphics but it still was a little dark when it came to the background areas. It did come close to what the ILO displayed in its standard mode, but my one complaint on it is that it still was a little to dark, even when it was set to it Hi-bright mode.

Third, I think the ILO did best overall, it was not to dark or too bright and too me seemed to be easier on the eyes than the other two lcds. I wish I had a chance to try the xbox360 on them but said to say I do not own one yet. Another detail I might add is that I only used the modes the lcds had available I did not mess with things like the contrast or sharpness of the images, etc.

I only compared these lcds from a gaming stand point. How well they to on HD television programming and dvd’s I do not know. Again this is just my opinion and comparison if the lcds. And yes I know that these are the so called bargain-basement/bottom of the barrel LCDs, but if your like me a gamer on a budget than I say the ILO-32HD would be a good choice to look into. You wont be getting that $2000-$3000 lcd look(if you want that look than your can have to spend the dough), but its still a good lcd for its price.
If anyone has anything to add or comment about please feel free to do so.

To be honest, I still think you can do better in that price range. You have to keep in mind those TV's aren't calibrated and the other TV's you compared it to could be mis-callibrated.

Of the three brands, the Polaroid is probably gonna be the "best" TV, but it sounds like your mind is already made up, so just make the best decision you can. If you REALLY want my opinion, I say drop down in screen size to 26-27 in LCD's where you can get Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, and Westinghouse LCD's that will obliterate that Ilo in every category.

How do i GET THE ENTIRE pcture to occupy the screen on the Ilo 32 LCD...I do not like using the zoom on my cable remote because it cuts out some of the picture

JAD2, all Sony LCD TVs are assembled and made by Sony and are using LCD panels made by the Sony-Samsung joint venture plant. Sony is absolutely not insterested in having Orion to make their products.

Ilo is owned by Funai Corp.. which offers support for Funai, Symphonic, Sylvania, Emerson, Aventura, Durabrand, Esa, Magnavox, and Misakai brand televisions, VCRs, DVD players, VCR/DVD combos, TV/VCR combos, TV/DVD combos, and TV/DVD/VCR combos. Ilo is a sort of Wal-Mart brand.. but Funai has been around for some time now.. 1977

Ilo is owned by Funai Corp.. which offers support for Funai, Symphonic, Sylvania, Emerson, Aventura, Durabrand, Esa, Magnavox, and Misakai brand televisions, VCRs, DVD players, VCR/DVD combos, TV/VCR combos, TV/DVD combos, and TV/DVD/VCR combos. Ilo is a sort of Wal-Mart brand.. but Funai has been around for some time now.. 1977
iLO is NOT owned by Funai. iLO is a Wal-Mart store brand where manufacturers are allowed to stamp the manufacturer name on the box. Most iLO CRT tube TVs are made by Funai (27" flat and 32" flat), but the 27" round is made by Orion. The 42" plasma TV is made by Tatung. The DVD recorders are made by Cyberhome. The iLO LCD TVs are made by one of the Chinese TV companies (not sure which one).

Funai is not just a Wal-Mart brand but is the world's largest OEM electronic maker/supplier. Funal also makes 80% of the DVD player models by Denon, CRT TVs/combos for Philips/Magnavox and Insignia (Best Buy store brand), LCD TVs sized 20" and under for Sharp, DVD players/recorders/combos for Sanyo, Sharp, and Philips/Magnavox, digital cameras for Kodak, and printers for Dell and Lexmark.

This set sucks monkey balls. Really. Some inputs have noticeable interference that I never had with many other sets I've tried. Plus it has only one component input. Pathetic.

lct32ha36

if you get this model, it doesn't appear to be wall-"hangable". They have another model, possibly newer, that does seem to have standard holes in the back.

WalMart sold me the LCT32ha36, and while the picture and features have been fine, it's going back, as I want it on the wall.

Wal-mart gives you 90 days to return, so try one out and see for yourself.....

I had the ilo and it was a great set. Factor in the price and it was hard to justify spending more just for a name.
I have since sold the set to move up to a sammie plasma, but the person that bought it has had nothing but prasie for it also.

Sorry to bring this post back from the dead. But I have an ILO-32HD that was given to me for my spare room. I need to use both the HDMI and the DVI connectors on the back of the tv. HDMI works great, however, the DVI has an audio connection next to it, and it is NOT a standard RCA jack. I have your standard composite cables, standard component cables, and even a digital audio cable, but since all use RCA ends, none of them work. All of the cables seem too loose. Is it just a big 1/4 audio jack? I'm confused. Thanks.