When the HDMI output is connected to an A/V receiver or audio processor with HDMI v1.1 or above specifications, please use the following settings:

Speaker Setup Page:
Down-mix: 5.1 CH
Front Speaker: Large
Center Speaker: Large
Rear Speaker: Large
Subwoofer: On
Audio Setup Page:
Digital Output: Raw
HDMI Audio: Auto
With the above settings, the DVD player will send CD, Dolby Digital and DTS audio signals as raw bit streams to the receiver for decoding. For high resolution stereo or multi-channel audio contents such as DVD-Audio and Super Audio CD, the DVD player will send multi-channel PCM audio signals with the highest available sample frequency and bit numbers to the receiver. Depending on the original audio content, the format could be 44.1kHz - 192kHz, 2 - 6 channels. Setting all speakers to "Large" allows bass management to be handled by the receiver or audio processor.

Guys,
I am really going crazy with my receiver(Panny XR57) & Oppo 970HD combo. I want to pass all multichannel audio over HDMI. I tried different SACD, DVD-A & DTS albums yesterday & the bass on the SACD & DVD-A is missing.

The Panasonic XR57 accepts mc audio over HDMI but has no bass management. What are the settings for the Oppo in this case? Also, do the settings change depending on DD/DTS & SACD/DVD-A? What about plain 2-channel stereo?

I tried every possible combination with speakers set to small/large, subwoofer on/off, Raw/PCM & even boosting subwoofer output by 10db but nothing works. I got a great deal on the Panny but I am not averse to returning it in favor of the Onkyo 604 for this feature.

I just got a 970 and am loving it. Temporarily, I would like to use my Comcast (Motorola) 3416 dvr's remote as a 'poor man's' univerisal remote, but to get it to turn the Oppo on and off, etc., I need a 4 digit code for the Oppo to put into the Comcast remote. Does anyone know this code? (I searched but couldn't find this in the thread.)

Guys,
I am really going crazy with my receiver(Panny XR57) & Oppo 970HD combo. I want to pass all multichannel audio over HDMI. I tried different SACD, DVD-A & DTS albums yesterday & the bass on the SACD & DVD-A is missing.

The Panasonic XR57 accepts mc audio over HDMI but has no bass management. What are the settings for the Oppo in this case? Also, do the settings change depending on DD/DTS & SACD/DVD-A? What about plain 2-channel stereo?

I tried every possible combination with speakers set to small/large, subwoofer on/off, Raw/PCM & even boosting subwoofer output by 10db but nothing works. I got a great deal on the Panny but I am not averse to returning it in favor of the Onkyo 604 for this feature.


Audio issues I keep seeing. If I'm going to be using HDMI for video only to my TV, and then an optic cable for audio to the reciever (Panny home theater ina box), I should be fine shouldn't I? What settings would I want then? Also, I'd like to know if there's a way to level out the dynamic range, such as with the Panny's dynamic range compression.

I just got a 970 and am loving it. Temporarily, I would like to use my Comcast (Motorola) 3416 dvr's remote as a 'poor man's' univerisal remote, but to get it to turn the Oppo on and off, etc., I need a 4 digit code for the Oppo to put into the Comcast remote. Does anyone know this code? (I searched but couldn't find this in the thread.)

Download the newest Beta firmware and install it. It has the option to use alternate manufacturers codes for your Comcast remote.
http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd-firmware-4a-0209.html

Has anyone else noticed that the Oppo 970 sometimes has the volume drop off, for about 1 second, at the layer break on dual layer dvds. I have both the Oppo 970 and 971, plus 2 Phillips and 2 Pioneer DVD Players. The 970 is the only player that I get this problem on. It happens whether I listen through the receiver or just the TV speakers, that is why I suspect it is the Oppo causing the problem. The same DVDs play perfect in the 971 and my other players. Any suggestions? Thanks.

brettski,
I noticed (and reported to oppo) a volume issue at layer chnage with texas chainsaw massacre: the beginning, when playing the DTS track. I actually lose the audio completely. a pause+play sequence fixes it. backing up just before the layer change and trying to go over again, reproduces the problem every time. Layer change is between chapters 14 and 15. I'm using optical out to my onkyo 575x (never had a audio issue with this receiver before).

jeff

Download the newest Beta firmware and install it. It has the option to use alternate manufacturers codes for your Comcast remote.
http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd-firmware-4a-0209.html

Thanks, Paul. I called Oppo service and they told me the same thing; they're mailing the cd to me with the new Beta firmware.

I'm going to go with 720p anyways for two reasons. One, is that I heard that looks better from many people, so you're not in a minority. Also, I heard it's just better to output to whatever the native resolution of your set is, and mine is definitely 720p so, 720p I'll be watching at :)


From what I've read some people like the 480i output (dvd native resolution) through hdmi so that there's only one scaling done. For example my Pioneer 5070's native res is 768p. So setting the oppo to 720p out causes one scaling and then it reaches the TV and the TV does another up to 768p.

I just purchased a 970 yesterday and should have it in about a week at which time I'll try both.

regards, David

From what I've read some people like the 480i output (dvd native resolution) through hdmi so that there's only one scaling done. For example my Pioneer 5070's native res is 768p. So setting the oppo to 720p out causes one scaling and then it reaches the TV and the TV does another up to 768p.

I just purchased a 970 yesterday and should have it in about a week at which time I'll try both.

regards, David
What would be the point in buying an upscaling player if you don't use the upscaling feature?

My tv is 768p but it has a 1:1 aspect mode. So I can output to 720p and only scale once.

Guys,
I am really going crazy with my receiver(Panny XR57) & Oppo 970HD combo. I want to pass all multichannel audio over HDMI. I tried different SACD, DVD-A & DTS albums yesterday & the bass on the SACD & DVD-A is missing.

The Panasonic XR57 accepts mc audio over HDMI but has no bass management. What are the settings for the Oppo in this case? Also, do the settings change depending on DD/DTS & SACD/DVD-A? What about plain 2-channel stereo?

I tried every possible combination with speakers set to small/large, subwoofer on/off, Raw/PCM & even boosting subwoofer output by 10db but nothing works. I got a great deal on the Panny but I am not averse to returning it in favor of the Onkyo 604 for this feature.

First, make sure the HDMI resolution setting of the Oppo (use the button on the remote to change it, while the player is STOPPED), is 720p or higher. (I tend to use 1080 i or p). That ensures that all channels of a hi-rez multichannel stream are passed.

If that doesn't work, I can suggest other things. But please be sure to consult the 'second' user's manual that comes with the Oppo -- the one writtem by the Audioholics folks. It details the correct settings for DVD-A/SACD over HDMI.

Also would need to know if you are getting bass with DD/DTS via HDMI. THat's not clear from your post. It sounds like yes, but I'm not sure.

What would be the point in buying an upscaling player if you don't use the upscaling feature?

My tv is 768p but it has a 1:1 aspect mode. So I can output to 720p and only scale once.

Because Oppo players are great universal players with good support. People with external processors/scalers just let the Oppo output the native format of DVD.

What would be the point in buying an upscaling player if you don't use the upscaling feature?

My tv is 768p but it has a 1:1 aspect mode. So I can output to 720p and only scale once.

Well, I basically bought it to use as a transport that would output dvd native resolution 480i digitally to the TV.

I'm not sure what the 1:1 aspect mode is. If the output of the of the Oppo is 720p how does remapping 720p to 768p not constitute a second rescaling? Is the horizontal resolution also increased by 48 pixels? I would still think the 720p signal would be rescaled in going to 768p because there must be interpolation between pixels. If it's not there to start with then it must fill in the new pixels.

regards, David

What would be the point in buying an upscaling player if you don't use the upscaling feature?

My tv is 768p but it has a 1:1 aspect mode. So I can output to 720p and only scale once.

I think its because you need a dvd player that can send 480i through hdmi. A lot of dvd players are 480i, but don't have hdmi or can't sent the 480i signal with it.

Well native of my rear projection LCD is 720p, so again, 720p is where I'll be. Besides, the TV will do some upconversion work with 480i material... and I don't want the TV to do the work. That's why I bought the Oppo. I'm also going to this Oppo after using a Panny that only did 480 progressive, so I'm sure I'll be happy. For people who are using 720 as their native, I've heard that 1080i is ok, 720p is the best, and 480p is close behind. I'm sure the types of people that use other scalers or have TV's that don't display the same resolutions natively that the Oppo can output at have different stories, but for me, I'm sure this will be the best option.

Maybe I'm a weirdo and alone on this, but, i prefer 1080i....I've tried both 720p and 1080i and I just think it looks better to me on my tv.

I'm not sure what the 1:1 aspect mode is. If the output of the of the Oppo is 720p how does remapping 720p to 768p not constitute a second rescaling? Is the horizontal resolution also increased by 48 pixels? I would still think the 720p signal would be rescaled in going to 768p because there must be interpolation between pixels. If it's not there to start with then it must fill in the new pixels.

regards, David
1:1 means the tv takes whatever pixels are coming in (480, 720 etc) and centers them in the screen without any scaling - hence 1:1.

My Sony A2000 rear projector has a native 1080p/60 scan rate. My subjective observations led me to select 1080i/60 as the OPPO's output because it looked best to me, especially when I left all the processing up to the display. Best picture I have seen from a DVD player. Likely Sony put a lot of design work into the set's 1080i to 1080p conversion process since that is the process it must use for native 1080i broadcasts.

Richard.

First, make sure the HDMI resolution setting of the Oppo (use the button on the remote to change it, while the player is STOPPED), is 720p or higher. (I tend to use 1080 i or p). That ensures that all channels of a hi-rez multichannel stream are passed.

If that doesn't work, I can suggest other things. But please be sure to consult the 'second' user's manual that comes with the Oppo -- the one writtem by the Audioholics folks. It details the correct settings for DVD-A/SACD over HDMI.

Also would need to know if you are getting bass with DD/DTS via HDMI. THat's not clear from your post. It sounds like yes, but I'm not sure.

HDMI resolution is set to 720p. I did read the manual thoroughly. In fact, I've almost read every thread on the Oppo 970, Panny XR57 & combination thereof on avsforum.

I am getting bass on DD/DTS via HDMI. Problem is only with SACD & DVD-A because XR57 does not apply BM on multichannel PCM over HDMI. The audioholics manual & FAQ here talk only about connection to TV & receiver with BM.

I am getting bass on DD/DTS via HDMI. Problem is only with SACD & DVD-A because XR57 does not apply BM on multichannel PCM over HDMI. The audioholics manual & FAQ here talk only about connection to TV & receiver with BM.
I don't have any experience with the XR57, but its inability to provide bass management to multichannel PCM sounds like the real root of the problem. I looked at the settings you listed in a previous post, and one idea comes to mind: set the speakers to "small" in the 970HD so that it will provide bass management (80Hz crossover if I remember correctly) to multichannel PCM data. With the HDMI output set to "auto" you'd still get undecoded DD and DTS bitstreams, so the Panasonic would still take care of bass management and other decoding duties with them, but the multichannel PCM would have already gotten bass management. Whaddaya think?

I don't have any experience with the XR57, but its inability to provide bass management to multichannel PCM sounds like the real root of the problem. I looked at the settings you listed in a previous post, and one idea comes to mind: set the speakers to "small" in the 970HD so that it will provide bass management (80Hz crossover if I remember correctly) to multichannel PCM data. With the HDMI output set to "auto" you'd still get undecoded DD and DTS bitstreams, so the Panasonic would still take care of bass management and other decoding duties with them, but the multichannel PCM would have already gotten bass management. Whaddaya think?

I already tried that. Issue is with the 10db LFE boost needed for multichannel. See below thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748147

I had emailed Oppo & got their response some time back. Their suggestion is turn up the subwoofer channel in Audio Preferences all the way to max.

I had emailed Oppo & got their response some time back. Their suggestion is turn up the subwoofer channel in Audio Preferences all the way to max.
I'd try their suggestion. In fact, you could even lower the trim on the other channels at the same time you raise the sub trim to get an overall 10dB difference.

Still wondering if the Oppo has something that's equivalent to something like the Panasonics DRC (dynamic range compression)?

brettski,
I noticed (and reported to oppo) a volume issue at layer chnage with texas chainsaw massacre: the beginning, when playing the DTS track. I actually lose the audio completely. a pause+play sequence fixes it. backing up just before the layer change and trying to go over again, reproduces the problem every time. Layer change is between chapters 14 and 15. I'm using optical out to my onkyo 575x (never had a audio issue with this receiver before).

jeff

My experience is exactly as you have described yours and mine also is fixed by a pause + play sequence, so I know that the sound is actually there, but I'm just not hearing it. I am also using an optical out to my receiver (Kenwood), but I actually get the same problem on the same disk when using HDMI to HDMI on the LG Plasma when listening only through the TV speakers. However, the audio loss isn't as long through the TV speakers (example 1 second versus 3 seconds). I have noticed it a few times previously on DVDs, but today it was during the layer break (I believe it was in chapter 13) of the Departed. Today I decided to test the DVD in all of my players and it only happens in the 970, not on any of my other players (including the 971) as I mentioned previously.

Originally Posted by rkihara
I just bought an Oppo 970HD, and while adjusting the settings with the Avia disk set to 480i, noticed that the 6.75 Mhz patch on the TVL resolution pattern was aliased. The aliasing looked like 2:1 downsampling, with the 6.75 Mhz patch appearing similar to the 3.58 Mhz patch. Likewise with the wedges, starting at about 400 lines. The component outputs cleanly resolve the 6.75 Mhz pattern, along with the wedges....Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Avia is not widescreen-enhanced like DVE, so if the 970's "TV Display" setting is "16:9 Wide/Auto", switch to "16:9 Wide", and try again.

Gary

That solved the problem, but I'm not sure why. The 6.75 Mhz resolution pattern was resolved on all settings except for 16:9 Wide/Auto. The Avia 16:9 WS enhanced resolution pattern didn't work on that setting either. Thanks for the help!

-Ron

I already tried that. Issue is with the 10db LFE boost needed for multichannel. See below thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748147

I had emailed Oppo & got their response some time back. Their suggestion is turn up the subwoofer channel in Audio Preferences all the way to max.

? You made it sound in your original post like there was NO bass when you played DVD-A/SACD. LFE boost won't solve that. If your issue was just *low* bass, then it was likely the LFE bug. The LFE bug itself doesn't cause a 'no bass' situation.

The LFE fix that Oppo gave you is the one I use, except that I run speakers LARGE in the Oppo because 1) my AVR can do BM on HDMI PCM input and 2) if the lFE boost is applied after BM, the levels still aren't right. If you apply both BM and a selective LFE boost in the Oppo, I'm not sure which order the operations occur in. Preferably it's: LFE boost, then BM.

I just bought an Oppo 970HD, and while adjusting the settings with the Avia disk set to 480i, noticed that the 6.75 Mhz patch on the TVL resolution pattern was aliased. The aliasing looked like 2:1 downsampling, with the 6.75 Mhz patch appearing similar to the 3.58 Mhz patch. Likewise with the wedges, starting at about 400 lines. The component outputs cleanly resolve the 6.75 Mhz pattern, along with the wedges....Any suggestions would be appreciated. Avia is not widescreen-enhanced like DVE, so if the 970's "TV Display" setting is "16:9 Wide/Auto", switch to "16:9 Wide", and try again. Explain. That solved the problem, but I'm not sure why. The 6.75 Mhz resolution pattern was resolved on all settings except for 16:9 Wide/Auto. The Avia 16:9 WS enhanced resolution pattern didn't work on that setting either. Thanks for the help! DVE is anamorphic (widescreen-enhanced), Avia is not.

When the OPPO is set to "16:9 Wide/Auto", the Mediatek MPEG decoder chip squeezes non-anamorphic images for the analog output, before scaling the image for the HDMI output. As a result, you LOSE horizontal image resolution. Unfortunately, this is the case with many players, including the Panasonic S97 for example, which is not a Mediatek player.

So if your TV allows it, leave the OPPO in the "16:9 Wide" setting, and let the TV add the pillarbox (side) bars, not the player.

If you would like a full, pictorial explanation, or further proof, see this post from the 971 thread: The WIDE/SQZ setting in perspective (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5124988&&#post5124988).

Gary

Maybe I'm a weirdo and alone on this, but, i prefer 1080i....I've tried both 720p and 1080i and I just think it looks better to me on my tv.

I agree, but am not sure how this makes sense. My personal preference is 1080i out to a 42" Panny 600U. 480P is a close second. I do not like 720P on the Panny.

Newbie alert :) I just bought the 970HD...go me. But after reading about the Cadence issue with the PAL, I am sort of in a minor flux about it or the 971. I like the 970 because it seems to be a great value, and will get me on my way to upgrading my whole system.

I was slightly confused on the 2:2 cadence PAL playback of the 970. One, on the Benchmark tests at home theatr hifi said that the 970 passed for '2-2 Cadence, Film Flags' but Oppo explicitly says it does not on their comparrison chart. I must be misunderstanding something, so if anyone has any insight as to why I have errored, or unlikely if they have made an error?

Next with this issue, how much of a difference is it not having the 2:2? I saw those pictures of a comparison, and the pics were pretty poor quality, although there was evidence of fairly large difference. With that, I do not have a HDTV(but starting to get ready to jump in) will that fact make the quality difference less noticeable? I currently have no PAL DVDs but definitely will be buying some for better dvd versions. Someone had mentioned as long as you have a good scaler you would be ok? What tvs have a good scaler?

What would be a good lower priced TV to go with this DVD player?32-42inch range. Or what are the good tv brands now? I know that's a big question, but something to help start my hunting

Thanks,
Ser :)

Can the Oppo handle the newer divx 6.5.1 1080p compatible divx files? Thanks!

I was slightly confused on the 2:2 cadence PAL playback of the 970. One, on the Benchmark tests at home theatr hifi said that the 970 passed for '2-2 Cadence, Film Flags' but Oppo explicitly says it does not on their comparrison chart. I must be misunderstanding something, so if anyone has any insight as to why I have errored, or unlikely if they have made an error?


The benchmark test was for 2:2 NTSC contents. The oppo comparison chart was for 2:2 PAL, especially PAL-NTSC conversion. If your TV supports PAL, then the 970HD is fine with PAL disc - PAL output, supporting 2:2 just like it works with the NTSC 2:2. However if you do PAL-NTSC conversion the result will not be as good as their other two models.

Can the Oppo handle the newer divx 6.5.1 1080p compatible divx files? Thanks!

AFAIK, Divx codecs are backwards compatible so the oppo can play divx 6.5.1 encoded contents. However the content resolution has to be 720x480 or lower. 1080p content will not work, no matter which version of codec used to encode.

AFAIK, Divx codecs are backwards compatible so the oppo can play divx 6.5.1 encoded contents. However the content resolution has to be 720x480 or lower. 1080p content will not work, no matter which version of codec used to encode.

well I don't like this!

I noticed that when installing the hack, the audio delay option in "speaker setup" is missing; this can be useful for delay induced by TV video processing. Was this option added post-hack? It's actually in the manual which leads me to believe that it should be there in the hacked firmware -- but it's not.

well I don't like this!
It's a hardware limitation, I'm afraid. Keep in mind that the 970HD is a DVD player, and as such is designed to work with DVD's native resolution (720x480). The hardware was not designed to support source resolutions higher than that because that's the highest resolution possible with the format for which the player was built.

I haven't seen anyone post anything about PQ difference between the HDMI & component out. I compared the two using a test disc and all I could detect was a slightly better frequency response through the HDMI. So slight, you would be hard pressed to see the difference except with a A/B test (using the same set) and I can't imagine when watching a DVD anyone could ever detect that.

Anyone else made a comparison??

I didn't see any difference either, in fact, some maintain a "warmer" picture quality through component (what ever that means). I just know I got a kick-butt picture!

Like JKWEST said, my eyes are all that count, not anyone elses opinion!

Just had OPPO deliver a new 970 to my sister. She just called and I helped her do a setup. Although the setup menu displays just fine each and every brand new DVD she inserts produces a "no disk inserted" message on the screen and on the 970's display.

Should I assume that this new 970 is defective or did I miss something?

Richard.

Just had OPPO deliver a new 970 to my sister. She just called and I helped her do a setup. Although the setup menu displays just fine each and every brand new DVD she inserts produces a "no disk inserted" message on the screen and on the 970's display.

Should I assume that this new 970 is defective or did I miss something?

Richard.


Tell her to flip them over and try it again....

No...I kid... :rolleyes:

Sounds defective to me. I would call them, they are pretty helpful there.

Just had OPPO deliver a new 970 to my sister. She just called and I helped her do a setup. Although the setup menu displays just fine each and every brand new DVD she inserts produces a "no disk inserted" message on the screen and on the 970's display.

Should I assume that this new 970 is defective or did I miss something?

Richard.

Try disconnecting the unit for no less than 15 minutes. This will cause the capacitors to discharge then fully recharge.

Try blowing a little compressed air into the unit. Sometimes, during manufacturing or shipping, particles can get onto the lens. This will effect the ability of the laser to read a disc.

Are there mechanical noises when the disc is supposed to be spinning up? If not, then there could be a loose wire which is causing no power to go to the loader assembly.

Does anyone have the original 613 firmware from July (the one the hack is based on?)

edit: nevermind.. found it. :)

I agree, but am not sure how this makes sense. My personal preference is 1080i out to a 42" Panny 600U. 480P is a close second. I do not like 720P on the Panny.

The 970 looks best on my Panny 50u in 1080i mode closely followed by 480p. Which kinda goes against reasoning since the player would upconvert, make progressive, re-interlace, and send to the TV's scalar - but these plasmas seem to like 1080 signals the most. The only issue is that vertical compression :(

I was just wondering though - I only have a optical audio cable to my Onkyo receiver. Will there be any difference in SQ between the digital output vs analog outputs? I've always been curious.

The 970 looks best on my Panny 50u in 1080i mode closely followed by 480p. Which kinda goes against reasoning since the player would upconvert, make progressive, re-interlace, and send to the TV's scalar - but these plasmas seem to like 1080 signals the most. The only issue is that vertical compression :(

I was just wondering though - I only have a optical audio cable to my Onkyo receiver. Will there be any difference in SQ between the digital output vs analog outputs? I've always been curious.

Depends on whether or not the D/A converter is better in your audio system or the Oppo.

Oppo Advanced Setup Guide states most Hd displays (LCD, DLP,SXRD) will look best with 720p output from the 970 (see pg.5)

Oppo Advanced Setup Guide states most Hd displays (LCD, DLP,SXRD) will look best with 720p output from the 970 (see pg.5)
Yes, this is in most cases true. But it seems that Panasonics are just the exception to that rule. In the smallprint in the 50u manual, it says that all 720 signals are converted to 1080 anyway (don't ask) and I've noticed, as have others, that panasonics tend to look best at 1080. I wasn't saying that was the case for most displays - just that particular brand.

The 970 looks best on my Panny 50u in 1080i mode closely followed by 480p.

I'll give you a little hint on this one: Panasonic designed the 50/500U series with 1080i. No joke. Run a resolution test pattern at 720p then at 1080i. High frequency signals (6.5Hz) will be muddled at 720p, but sharp as hell at 1080i.

Hey guys. I recently purchased this player and noticed that a rather loud vibration/hum periodically rears its head when displaying DVD menus (not DVD specific) and ceases when the movie is playing. This isn't normal, right?

Hey guys. I recently purchased this player and noticed that a rather loud vibration/hum periodically rears its head when displaying DVD menus (not DVD specific) and ceases when the movie is playing. This isn't normal, right?

I've had this on other players from time to time. Menus are short looping videos and my theory is that some combination of laser movement and disc rotation causes a resonance vibration.

It's irritating but I haven't worried about it otherwise.

-Bill

I've had this on other players from time to time. Menus are short looping videos and my theory is that some combination of laser movement and disc rotation causes a resonance vibration.

It's irritating but I haven't worried about it otherwise.

-Bill

But is that par for the course concerning this model?

But is that par for the course concerning this model?

I don't know; I have the 981 and get it from time to time.

-Bill

Hey guys. I recently purchased this player and noticed that a rather loud vibration/hum periodically rears its head when displaying DVD menus (not DVD specific) and ceases when the movie is playing. This isn't normal, right?I don't believe it is normal. I've had the 970 since Octcober and have not had this problem.

Just had OPPO deliver a new 970 to my sister. She just called and I helped her do a setup. Although the setup menu displays just fine each and every brand new DVD she inserts produces a "no disk inserted" message on the screen and on the 970's display.

Should I assume that this new 970 is defective or did I miss something?

Richard.

Here is what Oppo sent me regarding problems with disk loading.

Please try the following:

1. Disconnect the OPPO DVD player from the power source for no less than
15 minutes.
2. Gently shake your DVD unit.
3. Reconnect the power.
4. Download and install the latest firmware release
(http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd-firmware-4a-1220.html).
5. Clean the bottom of your disc with a non-abrasive cloth.
6. Blow a little compressed air into the DVD unit.

Attempt playback again. If you still have errors, then your unit will
need to come back for inspection and repair.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

I don't believe it is normal. I've had the 970 since Octcober and have not had this problem.


According to OPPO, it's not normal. I'm getting a new 970 sent for free (no shipping either way) today. This company has impressed me from the time I placed my order. I hope it stays afloat because it conducts its business the right way.

Just had delivered to my sister in Florida a new Sony 46 inch LCD HDTV and the 970. When she tried to load two new disks the OPPO would not detect them.

She called me today to say that the guys in her office figured out her problem. For her new HD TV set she purchased two new HD DVD disks (blue ray). :o Believe it or not the OPPO would not load them. LOL. Sure glad she will not have to send back the player but I doubt the retailer will take back the disks.

Richard.

Hi all,
I just got my pio 1140HD and oppo970 delivered today. I connected the 970 to the TV using the supplied HDMI cable (Ant-A on the TV).

I played this movie on the player, and it looked pixelated, and was playing at rather a very slow frame rate, kind of not smooth motion. The Same dvd plays pretty smooth on this other DVD player (Cybershot RMC300Z / Cyberhome CH DVD300) using component cables. audio is fine with both dvd players, its just the video :confused: .

I havent changed any setting on the DVD player or the TV.
I can see that i am in Pure mode on the TV, and the 970 is outputting at 480P

Can any one please tell me where I could be going wrong, I need to fix this before the guests come over to my place, they all seemed to be excited with this TV and DVDplayer???

ALso I have another question, Are Break-in settings different from regular day/night viewing setting for the 1140HD+970? I found the break in settings and day/night (cable tv) settings for the 1140HD, thanks to D-Nice, but I searched that thread and could not find the settings for 1140HD +970. Can anyone please give me a link to these settings or settings that you think works best for this combo?

regards,

Ashish

Just had delivered to my sister in Florida a new Sony 46 inch LCD HDTV and the 970. When she tried to load two new disks the OPPO would not detect them.

She called me today to say that the guys in her office figured out her problem. For her new HD TV set she purchased two new HD DVD disks (blue ray). :o Believe it or not the OPPO would not load them. LOL. Sure glad she will not have to send back the player but I doubt the retailer will take back the disks.

Richard.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Hopefully she'll at least be relieved that dvds cost only have as much or less than what she thought they did. :)

Rough DVD Playback:

Make sure the TV display is not set to do the de-interlacing. I had the same issue with my Sony 60A2000 until I set the Oppo to 1080i output and let the player do the necessary processing for film conversion.

Richard.

anyone had problems with PAL discs when setting the 970 menu up to AUTO? i had sound with no picture then i went back and changed the settings to NTSC and it then displayed just fine. i have an HD monitor which can view either NTSC or PAL and hadn't come across this before on my old player. region 0 code was performed on the 970 and it took. not a big deal just found it odd.

How good is the noise reduction feature for the 970 with the latest beta firmware? Does it harm the image more than it does good?

ok, trying to see if I made the wrong purchase here. I want PAL 2:2 support, the 970 does not do it. Can certain TV's do it for me? If so any suggestions? Or would it just cost to much to find a TV that does that?

Also, it looks as though the 971 is not for sale anymore. Would the 981 be serious overkill for me? Since I never see myself getting a tv larger then 42" or is it the same as the 971 with a few upgrades.

Maybe I should be looking in to another company :(


Ser

[QUOTE=Taokane]I posted here about my trials w/ the Oppo's USB capabilities.
tschang13 -- Note that a USB hard drive needs to have its own power supply to work with the 970.

QUOTE]

Thanks very much for the reply. So the external hd has to have its own power supply, but a flashdrive or thumbdrive will work; maybe it's the small size of the flashdrive.

The 970 looks best on my Panny 50u in 1080i mode closely followed by 480p.

Rec'd this player to my folks for use over HDMI with their Panny TH-37PX60U. I came to almost the same conclusion as above, although I found 480p to give the most natural picture. 1080i was a close second, followed by 720p and 480i respectively. I first calibrated using Avia then used a combination of test patterns and scenes from the film "Grand Prix" which many agree is a reference quality transfer. (If you're a motorsport fan and haven't seen this movie, rent it! Or better yet, buy it! Quite simply the best racing film ever made. Period. And definitely watch all the extra features, it'll give you an even greater appreciation for what it took to make that film - a feat never to be repeated. Ever!)

Using the high rate moving zone test, the results at 480i were deplorable. Panasonic should be ashamed at the deinterlacing capabilities of this set. I was somewhat surprised by this. I wasn't expecting DCDi quality or anything, but yikes! 480p was much cleaner if not as sharp as 720p. 1080i was somewhere in between these, seemingly higher resolution but again with obvious deinterlacing artifacts akin to 480i. Both 720p/1080i modes showed increased resolution compared to 480p, but at the expense of some mild ringing which is to be expected I guess. While watching scenes from "Grand Prix", my eyes told me that 720p, while crisp, did have the slightest bit of ringing evident around darker objects which lessened the realism (three dimensionality) and film-like quality of the picture ever so slightly. 1080i maybe a bit less so, but still neither up-converted mode was quite as natural looking as 480p, I thought. 480i came in dead last, looking a bit grainy and lacking in resolution compared to the other modes. All in all I was pretty impressed. Again, this was me splitting hairs. The picture in any of these modes was definitely acceptable for any kind of non-critical viewing.

I realize a 37" set is on the smaller side, but its a real testament to this player that its so difficult to see any obvious differences between these modes. Not bad for a budget DVD player with an all-in-one solution.

That'll do, Oppo. That'll do.... :D

I was doing brightness, contrast, etc. settings last night with my new 970 (connected HDMI to a Sammy hlp6163 rptv) using the DVE calibration disc, and found that I could only get the Blacker Than Black bars if I used the RGB output from the Oppo. (I then checked on my Comcast Moto3416 stb and saw the same there). I.e., if I used the YCrCb (or whatever) choice for HDMI, I could not see BTB, and also the detail in dark scenes was poor (from the Oppo and from Comcast hdtv); but when I changed to RGB (for the Oppo and the stb), the BTB bars jumped out, and the detail in dark scenes became dramatically GOOD.

Is this something that is well known? I had not come across it, but then I haven't read through all of this enormous thread.

I came across an issue with my Oppo 970HD the other day and I'd love to get the forums thoughts on it.

First, has anyone else experienced, or come across documentation of, a DVD subtitle issue with the 970HD? I bought the 970 specifically because it has the ability to output a clean 480i signal over HDMI (I intend to get an Olevia 747i and use the excellent HQV scaling rather than the players scaler), and also because I have a large library of SD DVDs that includes many R2/3 titles.

I've had the player for a short while now and I love everything about, but I recently watched a DVD (R1 incidentally) with DVD generated subtitles and the subtitles were constantly flickering. Not flickering on and off, but rather they...er...sort of "glitched", like interference of some kind.

If you will indulge me, I'd like to share my correspondance with Oppo thus far:
Hello,

I purchased an Oppo 970HD on Dec. 31, 2006.

I generally watch a lot of subtitled DVDs, but I haven't had the opportunity to do so using my new 970HD until recently and I've noticed a problem. There is some sort of noise/artifacting when viewing subtitles on a DVD. I am unsure of how to describe it other than as artifacting or a glitch when subtitles are displayed. The same glitch appears in the color overlay of the menu selections of DVDs. I had dismissed the odd behavior with some menus as a problem with certain DVD titles, but I have now tested several DVDs played back with the subtitles turned on and the problem is apparent.

Is this something that can be fixed with a firmware update? or do I need a replacement player? I am otherwise very satisfied with the performance and picture quality of the player, but the subtitle problem has become quite distracting.
Then from Oppo:
There is a Y/C Delay overlay for things which are originating from the
decoding chipset. This is the same delay you see at the Setup Menu.
This is something that we are aware of but do not know the exact
solution to this error because the decoding chipset and the upscaling
chipset are using two different color matrixes.
I responded:
Thank You for the reply. Am I to understand that, while you currently don't have a solution, you are working to fix the problem?

Also, will the mode that I have the player set to make a difference? I am currently using the 970HD through component outs @ 480i to feed my 32" SD CRT. I am not using any upscaling or even deinterlacing. I will be getting an 1080p HDTV very soon which has superb deinterlacing and scaling via Silicon Optix and I am planning on outputting 16x9 480i via HDMI to the set. Will this address the problem? Or is it inherent to the device and I'll have to wait for you guys to fix it.

Thanks, again I love the quality of the 970HD. If the Y/C delay is fixed so that I can properly display DVD subtitles it will be perfect.

and the most recent from Oppo:
We are looking into solutions, but our chipset manufacture does not seem
optimistic about the overlays, as they designed the menus with a
difference colorspace from that of the upscaling chipset.

This error is inherent to the device, as this is occuring on a decoding
level.
So has anyone else noticed this with subtitled DVDs? Oppo acknowledges this as a known problem but doesn't seem to be able to offer a solution, nor do they expect one.

If no one else is having this problem, then I need to try and get a replacement player and see if it's just a small batch problem or something, although the rep said it was a chipset problem.

What's the point of a region free player with perfect PAL>NTSC conversion if the subtitles are terribly distracting?

Any help/input is appreciated.

I've watched several films with subtitles (NTSC) and I've not seen any artifiacts you mention. I'm using the hacked firmware outputting 1080i via component on a rp CRT.

Sorry I can't help

jeff

I've watched several films with subtitles (NTSC) and I've not seen any artifiacts you mention. I'm using the hacked firmware outputting 1080i via component on a rp CRT.

Sorry I can't help

jeff
Same here.What does the artifact problem look like?

Thanks greeno, that IS helpful. If nothing else, if it turns out that mine is an isolated case then I'll go to Oppo for a replacement unit and hopefully that will fix it.

I just find it curious, if mine IS an isolated case, that Oppo would acknowledge it as a issue shared by many issue. A problem at the chipset level no less.

So, that's 1 with subtitle issue, 1 without. Thanks again.

...I'm using the hacked firmware outputting 1080i via component on a rp CRT.

When I go to the link to the subject firmware that is provided by several users earlier in this thread, I get "file not found." Is it posted anywhere else?

mojomojo,

I find myself at a loss to describe it other than as I did in my initial post...I'll try again.

There is a flicker when subtitles which are generated in the DVD player are displayed. It's almost like static. Not noisy or snowy static, but sharp. Like a single line of the vertical resolution has jumped out of synch with the other lines surrounding it. It's not an artifacting that makes the text illegible, but it's wearying to watch for a subtitle heavy film. I watched BABEL the other night and I found myself terribly distracted by the way in which the subtitles would "twitch".

The same problem demonstrates itself in any DVD Title Menu. The colored overlay that underlines or highlights the menu's selections will "twitch".

Is that any clearer? I realize I may have to make several attempts at trying to describe this phenomenon as it's not something I've ever encountered before. Thanks for asking.

Just received a 970 this afternoon. I don't see any problem with the subtitles but I'm not impressed with the picture so far. My $30 Philips 642 over component is the equal of the Oppo so far. And while the menus are way better than the Philips, it's still far from the simplicity of the Toshiba I had prior to the Philips.

regards, David

Just received a 970 this afternoon. I don't see any problem with the subtitles but I'm not impressed with the picture so far. My $30 Philips 642 over component is the equal of the Oppo so far. And while the menus are way better than the Philips, it's still far from the simplicity of the Toshiba I had prior to the Philips.

regards, DavidOh great. I just ordered a 970 today when I wasn't that impressed with my Philips 5960/37 that I bought last weekend.

Thanks wireless & mojomojo.

So that's 1 with issue, 3 without. I might need to actually give Oppo a call rather than communicating via email because this so far does not sound like a common problem.

When I go to the link to the subject firmware that is provided by several users earlier in this thread, I get "file not found." Is it posted anywhere else?
Try here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ebf391/
Click on "Download for free with FileFactory Basic"

What's the point of a region free player with perfect PAL>NTSC conversion if the subtitles are terribly distracting?

Any help/input is appreciated.

If you are looking for decent PAL/NTSC conversion go with Philips.
Philips DVD players were NTSC/PAL compatible since day one and to make them region free using just the remote is just as easy as googling for the proper code...Oh, and they are cheap.

Thanks (l), I actually had the DVP642 and upgraded to the 970HD. :)

I prefer the Oppo in terms of overall functionality and build quality, and as I've said before I wanted a player with HDMI output. Specifically 480i over HDMI.

I'm not dissatisfied with the Oppo 970HD unless, as CS seems to suggest, this problem I've run into is not something they're going to fix. But from the sounds of it, there are folks out there for whom subtitles display just fine. Hurm...

Question: Those of you not having trouble with subtitles, are you using the hacked firmware?

If I apply the 613AMOD firmware mod/hack to allow HD upsampling through the component output, can I apply subsequent Oppo firmware updates without losing the 'HD component out' ability?

Thanks

If I apply the 613AMOD firmware mod/hack to allow HD upsampling through the component output, can I apply subsequent Oppo firmware updates without losing the 'HD component out' ability?

Thanks

No. Each firmware install is complete, not cummulative.

-Bill

So then I will be stuck at that feature set and not able to apply OPPO fixes to problems after that particular mod? Thats a bit troubling.

So then I will be stuck at that feature set and not able to apply OPPO fixes to problems after that particular mod? Thats a bit troubling.

Well, the hack is a "hack". It is unsupported. There is another thread about examining the hacked firmware to see how to apply it to new releases. But it will still be unsupported.

-Bill

So then I will be stuck at that feature set and not able to apply OPPO fixes to problems after that particular mod? Thats a bit troubling.
Why troubling? That's the way that firmware updates function in every consumer electronics device I've found (at least ever one that supports user-installed updates). If you want to use the firmware hack, then you have to accept the original firmware version on which it was based. There is a thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=799121) with some discussion in progress about the possibility of someone re-creating the hack with a more current firmware version.

I've searched this thread, but I haven't found any directions on how to reverse the upconverting thru component hack. Anyone have them?

Anthony

It's fine, as long as you don't need text (.srt, etc.) subtitles. Although the recent enabling of subtitle font adjustment eased this a bit, the Oppo still truncates longer lines, rather than wrapping them.

How can you adjust the font of the subtitles? It's way too big. Do I need a firmware update?

I've searched this thread, but I haven't found any directions on how to reverse the upconverting thru component hack. Anyone have them?

Anthony

Just install the latest firmware from their website and it writes over the old firmware.

OK, so I just recieved my Oppo a little under an hour ago. So far I've tested:

-Shrek
-Star Wars Episode III-Revenge Of The Sith
-Lord Of The Rings - Return Of The King
-Texas Chainsaw Massacre - The Beginning
-Trailer Park Boys - The Movie (or, The Big Dirty)
-South Park - Season 9

I wanted to test reference quality material, animated material in both movie and television form, and a movie that naturally has some grain in the picture (trailer park boys). What can I say? Moving from a progressive 480 picture, to 720p upconverted on the 720p... reference quality material such as Star Wars looks really damn close to HD, at least broadcast quality HD. The films with grain from what I can tell look sharp and not nearly as soft as before, and animation looks astounding. I'm a picky mofo when it comes to my picture quality and I used to review DVD's... so I can say that there is a night and day difference... that is if you're moving from a progressive player up. I'm very happy.

I'm a picky mofo when it comes to my picture quality and I used to review DVD's... so I can say that there is a night and day difference... that is if you're moving from a progressive player up. I'm very happy.

Join the crowd. The other Oppo players are reputedly even better than this one with many displays, pretty impressive record by the little giant killer.

Chris

It's interesting you said [reference quality material such as Star Wars looks really damn close to HD, at least broadcast quality HD]. When i got my OPPO970 last july and used it for a while and then IRobot was on comcast hbo hd. so i qued up my dvd to match the timing and switched back and forth. The were were very close in PQ- splitting hairs if you wanted to fight ;^)... having a good display {50necxr5}& calibrated makes HD and oppo 970 dvd pretty close- . But i did get emails back stating i was holuceationg(sp?)

Sounds good. I just ordered my 970 yesterday and FedEX is delivering it today. Hopefully they leave it at my front door and I'll rush home to pick it up. I'll try it on a 1366x768 LCD and a 1920x1080 LCD to see which looks better. My LCD's can only take in a max of 1080i which is why I chose this player.

I was doing brightness, contrast, etc. settings last night with my new 970 (connected HDMI to a Sammy hlp6163 rptv) using the DVE calibration disc, and found that I could only get the Blacker Than Black bars if I used the RGB output from the Oppo. (I then checked on my Comcast Moto3416 stb and saw the same there). I.e., if I used the YCrCb (or whatever) choice for HDMI, I could not see BTB, and also the detail in dark scenes was poor (from the Oppo and from Comcast hdtv); but when I changed to RGB (for the Oppo and the stb), the BTB bars jumped out, and the detail in dark scenes became dramatically GOOD.

Is this something that is well known? I had not come across it, but then I haven't read through all of this enormous thread.

I didn't get any response to this question, and I don't want to be-labor it (maybe everybdy else already knows!), but ...

do those of you runnning HDMI directly from your Oppo find the RGB or YCrCb choice to make a difference? My experience may be special to the Sammy hlp rptv that I'm sending it to, but the difference is dramatic in my case. (And it's the same for sending the Comcast/Moto 3416 RGB via HDMI.)

So that's 1 with issue, 3 without. I might need to actually give Oppo a call rather than communicating via email because this so far does not sound like a common problem.Add 1 to the "without" category. I tried sub-titles last night and they look fine to me. I am running the latest firmware beta from the Oppo web site.

Edit - Signal is 1080i over HDMI via Pio Elite 72 AVR to a 2 year old Panny 42" HDTV (1024 x 768).

Just install the latest firmware from their website and it writes over the old firmware.

Thanks.

I didn't get any response to this question, and I don't want to be-labor it (maybe everybdy else already knows!), but ...

do those of you runnning HDMI directly from your Oppo find the RGB or YCrCb choice to make a difference? My experience may be special to the Sammy hlp rptv that I'm sending it to, but the difference is dramatic in my case. (And it's the same for sending the Comcast/Moto 3416 RGB via HDMI.)

It makes a difference with my set because RGB is the incorrect colorspace. However, the Oppo passes BTB with both RGB and YCbCr with my set at any resolution I can pass - 480i, 480p, 1080i. It sounds like an issue with your set and not with the Oppo

It makes a difference with my set because RGB is the incorrect colorspace. However, the Oppo passes BTB with both RGB and YCbCr with my set at any resolution I can pass - 480i, 480p, 1080i. It sounds like an issue with your set and not with the Oppo

OK, thanks for the feedback.

OK, thanks for the feedback.

Just good timing. I got my Oppo back a few hours ago and figured while I was calibrating I would check out your issue.

Finally my much anticipated 970 arrived today.....BUT......cannot, at present even use it. I connected it all up and then went into my Toshiba 46HX83 Setup to change the old setting [for connection to old DVD Player] from Component to DVI\HDMI.........all was going smoothly intil it tells me to fill in the 4 DIGIT CODE of my new DVD Player. I cannot FIND one and OPPO just responded with Download a certain Firmware???? Without this code my HDTV cannot or will not "shake hands" with it's new friend Oppy 970.

On OPPO's site they have a download of Codes in MS Excel - which I do not have, so they do me NO good. DOES anyone PLEASE have this Discrete Code???

I can go back to Component connection like my previous DVD Player BUT I invested more money in this DVI\HDMI Cable so I would not have to do the HACK and Components.....may end up having to the way it looks so far.

TKS Michael :confused:

Finally my much anticipated 970 arrived today.....BUT......cannot, at present even use it. I connected it all up and then went into my Toshiba 46HX83 Setup to change the old setting [for connection to old DVD Player] from Component to DVI\HDMI.........all was going smoothly intil it tells me to fill in the 4 DIGIT CODE of my new DVD Player. I cannot FIND one and OPPO just responded with Download a certain Firmware???? Without this code my HDTV cannot or will not "shake hands" with it's new friend Oppy 970.

On OPPO's site they have a download of Codes in MS Excel - which I do not have, so they do me NO good. DOES anyone PLEASE have this Discrete Code???

I can go back to Component connection like my previous DVD Player BUT I invested more money in this DVI\HDMI Cable so I would not have to do the HACK and Components.....may end up having to the way it looks so far.

TKS Michael :confused:

I think you do have to load in the new firmware to have this 4-digit code. And in my case it uses one of the Toshiba dvd codes, 0503.

Would you please tell me the Model No. of your Toshiba? Maybe the same code you used would work to get my DVI the shake hands with the Oppo - what do you think?

TKS

Would you please tell me the Model No. of your Toshiba? Maybe the same code you used would work to get my DVI the shake hands with the Oppo - what do you think?
He's saying you have to install the new firmware for the Oppo to act as a Toshiba.

BTW, if you "invested" in a DVI/HDMI cable, you probably paid too much for it.

Finally my much anticipated 970 arrived today.....BUT......cannot, at present even use it. I connected it all up and then went into my Toshiba 46HX83 Setup to change the old setting [for connection to old DVD Player] from Component to DVI\HDMI.........all was going smoothly intil it tells me to fill in the 4 DIGIT CODE of my new DVD Player. I cannot FIND one and OPPO just responded with Download a certain Firmware???? Without this code my HDTV cannot or will not "shake hands" with it's new friend Oppy 970.

On OPPO's site they have a download of Codes in MS Excel - which I do not have, so they do me NO good. DOES anyone PLEASE have this Discrete Code???

I can go back to Component connection like my previous DVD Player BUT I invested more money in this DVI\HDMI Cable so I would not have to do the HACK and Components.....may end up having to the way it looks so far.It sounds like you are talking about some code that the Tosh TV is asking for in order to handshake with the Oppo via HDMI/HDCP -- NOT the remote codes to allow other remotes to control the Oppo. Is that correct?

If so, I think all the advice you have gotten so far relates to the remote code issue and not a digital handshaking code.

But I must say I have never heard of such a code. I have two devices (Moto 6412 STB and the Oppo 970) connected via HDMI and no codes were required. That is all supposed to be built into the device and take place within the encrypted digital signal passing between the units and following the HDCP protocols they identify themselves as properly licnesed devices and what kind they are -- source, display, repeater, etc.

Perhaps it has something to do with the DVI aspect of your set up. Are you sure that Oppo tech support understood the true nature of the problem? Or maybe I'm way off base... just trying to sort it out to help.

Finally my much anticipated 970 arrived today.....BUT......cannot, at present even use it. I connected it all up and then went into my Toshiba 46HX83 Setup to change the old setting [for connection to old DVD Player] from Component to DVI\HDMI.........all was going smoothly intil it tells me to fill in the 4 DIGIT CODE of my new DVD Player. I cannot FIND one and OPPO just responded with Download a certain Firmware???? Without this code my HDTV cannot or will not "shake hands" with it's new friend Oppy 970.

On OPPO's site they have a download of Codes in MS Excel - which I do not have, so they do me NO good. DOES anyone PLEASE have this Discrete Code???

I can go back to Component connection like my previous DVD Player BUT I invested more money in this DVI\HDMI Cable so I would not have to do the HACK and Components.....may end up having to the way it looks so far.

TKS Michael :confused:
The codes on OPPO's site are for the remote control - they have nothing to do with establishing an HDCP handshake. There should be no need for a special code to get the HDCP handshake to work between the 970HD's HDMI output and the TV's DVI input. I took a look at the manual (http://tacpservice.toshiba.com/ConsumerProductSupport/Manuals/TV/2003/46_51_57_65HX83.pdf) for your TV, and while there's no mention of need for a code to use the DVI input there is a comment about locking inputs on page 52, followed on page 53 with some information on using a four-digit code to unlock them. Could that be what you are running into?

The only thing I can complain about thus far, is that it's probably a lot to do with all the power running out of this outlet but whenever I touch the front display of the DVD player after not touching it a while, I get a little electric shock when I touch it. Good thing the eject button is on the remote.

Oppo came through in ONE day. I ordered it yesterday noon and it arrived this afternoon. I immediately connected it to my Sceptre 1366x768 LCD and the PQ was an incredible improvement over my Philips player...and that was at the default 720x480p. After fiddling around, I got 720p and 1080i. There was just a slight improvement, but I could see an improvement. I think this is such a good DVD player that upconversion isn't that important. I do see a slight improvement so it will stay at 720p. If I have time, I will try it on my 47" Philips 1080p TV.

BTW I tried "Finding Nemo", "Phantom of the Opera", and "Start Wars III". The PQ was so good I could almost live without my HD-DVD (well...not really). While watching the opening fight scene in SW III, it really looked 3D. Very nice.

The only thing I can complain about thus far, is that it's probably a lot to do with all the power running out of this outlet but whenever I touch the front display of the DVD player after not touching it a while, I get a little electric shock when I touch it. Good thing the eject button is on the remote.
On the bright side, spring approaches and the relative humidity should soon rise enough to cut down on static electricity (which is the likely culprit). I've seen posts from others this winter talking about getting shocked by things like receiver volume knobs.

Hi all,

Waiting on my new 42PX600U TV to arrive and will need a new DVD player to match - I still am using one of the early Panasonic A110 models! Anyway, looks like the Oppo 970 and the Panasonic S52 are two good choices. I like the lower price of the S52 but it looks like in most reviews, the Oppo scores higher.

I know this is subjective, but is there anyone who has used both and can give an opinion on if the Oppo is worth the extra money?

One negative I read about the Oppo is that it has a long start up time - something like 22 seconds from power on to playing the disc. Does that seem accurate to you all?

Thanks.

The only thing I can complain about thus far, is that it's probably a lot to do with all the power running out of this outlet but whenever I touch the front display of the DVD player after not touching it a while, I get a little electric shock when I touch it. Good thing the eject button is on the remote.

For you and anyone else having problems with static electricity...
Just fill a container (like a tuperware bowl or something similar) with water and place it in the room near where you're having your shock zone. Obviously place it where it won't get knocked into your electronics or outlets and is out of sight. If there is "space" under your audio rack / enetertainment center then that would be an ideal place. Leave the water there for as long as you're experiencing static shock or just indefinately.

Hi all,
One negative I read about the Oppo is that it has a long start up time - something like 22 seconds from power on to playing the disc. Does that seem accurate to you all?
Thanks.

I just timed mine with the latest beta firmware - 22 seconds power on to disc playing. Have not really noticed it until you mentioned it. ;) Not a problem for me. Short layer change is more important.

I just got my Oppo 970HD yesterday. MUCH improved dislpay over my previous Panasonic RP-56. I'm using it with a Panny TH-42PX600U. I think from what I've read here the best output for the Panny 600U is 480p rather than 720p, as the scaler in the Panny is supposedly better than the Oppos, while the de-interlacer in the Oppo is better than the 600U. And I am very happy with the 480p output. However, when I choose the 720p or 1080i output on the Oppo the display on the 600U has slim black bars at the top and bottom. Is this the "verticle squeeze" issue I read about?

All right. My Olevia 747i came yesterday so I am finally able to use the HDMI out on my Oppo 970HD. It did not, however, make any difference to my subtitle problem.

And, I managed to get some pictures of the glitch in action. I used the high speed shooting mode on my digital camera to get these images, as I realized the glitch happened whether the film was paused or not.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/DMayATL/970glitch1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/DMayATL/970glitch4.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/DMayATL/970glitch3.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/DMayATL/970glitch2.jpg

These images represent a split second of video. Imagine those lines and dots running through the subtitles constantly during playback.

If this still doesn't look familiar to anybody then I'm going to call into question Oppo CS's assertion that this is a known and widespread issue, and i'll just pursue a warranty replacement.

All right. My Olevia 747i came yesterday so I am finally able to use the HDMI out on my Oppo 970HD. It did not, however, make any difference to my subtitle problem.

These images represent a split second of video. Imagine those lines and dots running through the subtitles constantly during playback.

If this still doesn't look familiar to anybody then I'm going to call into question Oppo CS's assertion that this is a known and widespread issue, and i'll just pursue a warranty replacement.Yep - replace it forthwith. No question you have bad unit.

All right. My Olevia 747i came yesterday so I am finally able to use the HDMI out on my Oppo 970HD. It did not, however, make any difference to my subtitle problem.

And, I managed to get some pictures of the glitch in action. I used the high speed shooting mode on my digital camera to get these images, as I realized the glitch happened whether the film was paused or not.

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These images represent a split second of video. Imagine those lines and dots running through the subtitles constantly during playback.

If this still doesn't look familiar to anybody then I'm going to call into question Oppo CS's assertion that this is a known and widespread issue, and i'll just pursue a warranty replacement.

Is there any chance it might be your Olevia causing your problem ? There seems to be a problem with the model 542i series ...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=811577

Just a thought .

Scott................

Thanks wireless & mojomojo.

So that's 1 with issue, 3 without. I might need to actually give Oppo a call rather than communicating via email because this so far does not sound like a common problem.

There are two issues. The one OPPO is talking about is not the same issue you are describing here.

1. Y/C Delay. The decoder chipset is doing 4:2:0 while the upscaling chipset is doing 4:4:4. You will see Y/C delay errors (green on one side, purple on the other) in the menus and on subtitles.

2. Cadence Interruption (your problem). The subtitles are an overlay over the original video source. The upscaling chipset will try to decode the subtitles at the same cadence of the source material. This will cause errors such as the subtitles showing interlacing errors occasionally, or a twitch in the video (easily seen a couple of pixels above the subtitle line).

"1" will likely never be fixed due to complications with getting the upscaling chipset to read and process two different colorspaces (matrixes). "2" will likely be fixed at some point. But this comes down to, again, a communication issue with the decoding and upscaling chipset.

If this still doesn't look familiar to anybody then I'm going to call into question Oppo CS's assertion that this is a known and widespread issue, and i'll just pursue a warranty replacement.

Are you doing PAL or NTSC this video? If you are using PAL, then this can be a PAL synchronization error which plagues all of OPPO units. If it is NTSC then you are having a failure which is very rare, but should be corrected through a replacement unit.

Also, is your player at 480i or 1080i? Try a progressive output instead and note any difference.

just took me 14 seconds to start it up

Ahhhh, Thank You all. Clearly my pictures are worth more than all the words I've used trying to describe this problem. :D

skipsterut - Excellent advice, I think I will have to get a replacement.

Scott_R_K - The Olevia is definitely not causing the problem. When I first posted the problem to this thread a couple of days ago, the same thing was happening on my old Toshiba 32" CRT via component cables. My hope was that using the HDMI interface might solve the problem...no such luck.

Neuromancer - Thank You Thank You Thank You. I had a sneaking suspicion that my inability to correctly describe the error might have resulted in a miscommunication with Oppo. I'm going to give them a phone call now, rather than using email, and talk through the problem and my need for a replacement unit.

I am outputting NTSC video using the Oppo. 480i output using the HDMI interface, thought the same problem occurred with 480i output using component cables. I will try a progressive output to see if that affects anything, though that defeats the purpose of my purchasing this unit in the first place. As per Oppo's suggestion, I bought the 970HD specifically because it could send a clean 480i digital signal via HDMI to my new HDTV which uses Silicon Optix Realta HQV processing. HQV is far superior to even the processing used in Oppo's high end 981 unit.

Thanks again you guys, this was far more productive than I'd hoped. I'll let you know how things go with Oppo.

With regards to installing the old firmware to enable upconversion via component, how do I burn the CD as an ISO image file as opposed to a data file (BIN?). How do I convert the BIN file to an ISO before I burn it to the CD.

Thanks in advance for your help.

David

With regards to installing the old firmware to enable upconversion via component, how do I burn the CD as an ISO image file as opposed to a data file (BIN?). How do I convert the BIN file to an ISO before I burn it to the CD.
It depends on what burner software you're using. Since you're implying the hacked firmware is a .bin file, simply burn the file directly. If, e.g., you have Nero, create a new DVD-ROM (ISO) compilation and drop the file in.

In regards to the vertical squeezing that's going on... does it make a huge difference? The picture itself doesn't appear to be compromised visually in any noticable way. Is there pixels then chopped off at the top of the screen since the bottom has a little black bar? I did notice this via HDMI at 720p just watching Borat this evening but, the picture didn't look to be 'squished' so I wasn't really bothered. Details people! :)

What great customer service. I spoke with some very friendly and knowledgeable fellows at Oppo tonight and, after checking out my photos here in the forum, they agreed to send me a replacement unit.

Thanks again all for helping me sort this out.

I also have the Onkyo HTiB 790. I have the Sharp Aquos LC-C3742U for display. They're shipping my OPPO 970HD. What did you use to connect the audio from DVD to the receiver to get optimum sound? Thx.

I think you are going to be very happy with your move. I had the Panny HT-900 until a few months ago, and it started the dreaded cracking and hissing every now and again. Then it finally just craped out. I had to replace everything, so I went with the OPPO 970HD for my DVD player (Also picked up the Onkyo HTiB 790). I'm glad I did.
Love the PQ so much more on the Oppo than the progressive in the panny. I did the firmware hack and the region free hack, and have no problems with PQ or sound. I watch upscaled 720p on my Sony KV-XBR910 and it looks superb (i like how 720 looks over the 1080i picture for some reason).
Enjoy!

It depends on what burner software you're using. Since you're implying the hacked firmware is a .bin file, simply burn the file directly. If, e.g., you have Nero, create a new DVD-ROM (ISO) compilation and drop the file in.

i replied to him personally but I'll reply here for anyone else.

on my site where i'm hosting the .iso file, it's zipped first. unzip that file and you'll have an .iso file.

inside the .iso is a .bin file, and it is possible to extract that .bin with 7Zip or some other archive program, but don't do that. you don't want to burn the .bin as data because the OPPO wouldn't recognize it as a firmware upgrade (correct me if I'm wrong).

so don't extract the .iso archive. instead, just burn the .iso as an image file with imgburn or Nero to either CD or DVD. the OPPO will then see it as a bootable image and start the firmware upgrade.

i replied to him personally but I'll reply here for anyone else.

on my site where i'm hosting the .iso file, it's zipped first. unzip that file and you'll have an .iso file.

inside the .iso is a .bin file, and it is possible to extract that .bin with 7Zip or some other archive program, but don't do that. you don't want to burn the .bin as data because the OPPO wouldn't recognize it as a firmware upgrade (correct me if I'm wrong).

so don't extract the .iso archive. instead, just burn the .iso as an image file with imgburn or Nero to either CD or DVD. the OPPO will then see it as a bootable image and start the firmware upgrade.

Thanks guys.

inside the .iso is a .bin file, and it is possible to extract that .bin with 7Zip or some other archive program, but don't do that. you don't want to burn the .bin as data because the OPPO wouldn't recognize it as a firmware upgrade (correct me if I'm wrong).
I think you're wrong. If you burn the iso, you'll see the content of the disc will be the .bin file. However, your instructions are correct; the reason I replied in that fashion was because he implied he was working with the .bin file directly.

I think you're wrong. If you burn the iso, you'll see the content of the disc will be the .bin file. However, your instructions are correct; the reason I replied in that fashion was because he implied he was working with the .bin file directly.

Correct.. the contents of the CD-R/DVD burned as an .iso is a .bin file.

but I just burned only the .bin file to a CD-R as data and popped it in the OPPO - and it comes up as Unknown Disc.

You have to burn it as a bootable .ISO image. I wasn't sure if it was possible to burn just the .bin file as data and have the OPPO recognize it (hence the "correct me if I'm wrong"), but now we know.

Here is an easy way to burn your ISO image correctly.

Go to Download.com ((http://www.download.com/Burnatonce/3000-2646_4-10527231.html?tag=lst-0-1)) and download and install the program Burn At Once.

1. Open Burn At Once.
2. Select "File" then "Load New Image"
3. Browse for the ISO you downloaded from then click "Open".
4. Put a CD into your burner then click "Write".

Put the disc in the DVD player then follow the onscreen instructions.

My ISO/DVD burner of choice is ImgBurn (from the guy who gave us DVD Decrypter). :)

speaking of burnatonce.. it will also write audio and data CDs, too.

I did a quick search but didn't see where to find the hack for the 970 to enable upscaling over component. Can someone please post a link or give me instructions. Thanks.

I did a quick search but didn't see where to find the hack for the 970 to enable upscaling over component. Can someone please post a link or give me instructions. Thanks.

Here are some links, but I haven't looked at them recently:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ebf391/
http://www.looler.com/file/2823/613AMOD-iso.html
http://www.lament.us/oppo

-Bill

What combination of the following equipment do you guys think would provide the best possible upconverted SD DVD picture quality?

(1) Oppo 970
(2) Toshiba A2
(3) Toshiba XA2
(4) Any of the above with a Lumagen VisionHDP video processor/scaler.

The display would be a panasonic plasma 50PH9UK which has a native resolution of 768 lines via DVI. All of the players above offer 480i digital output option, the Lumagen offers 480i digital input option.

Specifically, I am wondering if the 970+Lumagen would outperform the A2 or XA2.

I would be interested in you opinions with and without price as a consideration.

Thanks for your valuable inputs.

Rich

What combination of the following equipment do you guys think would provide the best possible upconverted SD DVD picture quality?

(1) Oppo 970
(2) Toshiba A2
(3) Toshiba XA2
(4) Any of the above with a Lumagen VisionHDP video processor/scaler.

The display would be a panasonic plasma 50PH9UK which has a native resolution of 768 lines via DVI. All of the players above offer 480i digital output option, the Lumagen offers 480i digital input option.

Specifically, I am wondering if the 970+Lumagen would outperform the A2 or XA2.

I would be interested in you opinions with and without price as a consideration.

Thanks for your valuable inputs.

Rich

For SD Film sourced material will look best with the 970/Lumagen because it excellent scaling directly to native rate. Upscaling players will scale to 720P or 1080i which means they must be scaled again by the panel.

Video material will look better with the XA2 or Oppo 981 since they have much better de-interlacing for video material.

Will you notice the difference, maybe. For a low cost solution in a vacation home, I have the 970 connected to the 509UK and it looks quite good.

- Rich

I did a quick search but didn't see where to find the hack for the 970 to enable upscaling over component. Can someone please post a link or give me instructions. Thanks.lament has done a great job of setting up a site that not only lets you easily D/L the hack, but also has complete instructions. See the very last line of one of his recent his posts -- like the one just above yours. It is a link to his excellent Oppo hack page. :)

Just recently received my new 970 hooked it up to my 46HX83 TOSH HDTV and plopped in my first "test" DVD which was "Man on Fire" and noticed right away that Denzel Washington and everyone else for that matter looks slimmer and taller than "normal"...........CRAP! I had it set at "WIDE" then tried "AUTO WIDE" but they both appeared "distorted"----------------WHAT IT IS?

Major disappintment................I did a SEARCH here and did find some info about that BETA Firmware addressing the problem...........BUT the poster also said that the BETA also adds other problems. HATE to have to admit it BUT my old non-progressive TOSH DVD Player actually had as good a picture and NO Distortion - maybe it is just THIS DVD - sure HOPE so.

Does anyone here know how to FIX this OR do we have to live with this SUPER DUPER Player giving us elongated people and LOVE it because it is NEAR HDTV quality?

TKS Michael :confused:

'Taller'? I just got my Oppo 2 days ago and I see 'Smaller'...just slightly.

I take it you got the Toshiba's DVI input working?

What you are describing does not sound like what the beta firmware was developed for. Is there any chance that the Toshiba's DVI input is set to a zoom or stretch mode of some sort?

Can the firmware hack to convert over component be removed?

Can the firmware hack to convert over component be removed?

Yes, just install other firmware. A firmware flash erases the previous firmware.

I'm going to update my page with this and other FAQs today, since this keeps coming up.

Yes, just install other firmware. A firmware flash erases the previous firmware.

I'm going to update my page with this and other FAQs today, since this keeps coming up.

You should also include on line 3 that you need to see a .bin file on the CD when done right.

Chris

You should also include on line 3 that you need to see a .bin file on the CD when done right.

Chris

Well the problem with that is that if you burn just the .bin file as data, that's all you'll see as well. :)

What I will probably put is that if you burned it as an ISO image properly, the label on the CD will be OPPO970HACK.

Also you'll know if you did it wrong because when you put in the disc, the OPPO will respond with Unknown Disc.

OK, this is getting extremely irritating.
I've had the 970 upconverting to 1080 to my 50u for several months. About 99% of the time, the picture is great. But here's the problem. While randomly watching a movie, the entire scene suddenly becomes "snow" for a split second, then the screen goes black for 5 seconds, then the screen goes back to normal. Now this is while the content and audio is still playing ... it's just that 5 seconds of video are randomly cut off.

I originally had a DVI/HDMI cable for my 971; I returned the 971 to Oppo because of the MBE (yes, Macroblocking does exist, and yes Oppo has great customer service). I used an adapter from monoprice to hook the dvi input into the hdmi input on the new 970. This is when the phenomenon happened; it never happened with my 971. I emailed Oppo about the issue and they said it was an "HDCP handshake error" and an error with the cable. Based on the advice on others on the forum and Oppo and randomly experiencing this weird phenomenon on random movies, I bought a 12 ft hdmi-hdmi cable from oppo to replace the old cable. It actually looked a bit better, until I still noticed the handshake error. :mad:

Here are the circumstances when they happened. They have all happened on scratched up Blockbuster discs (Old cable - MI3, New Cable - Sin City, Cars), so could this result from those banged-up discs? The only time it randomly happened on my own disc was on the brand new ultimate edition of From Russia with Love, but I may have been switching the output resolution on that disc.

Still, it's frustrating for me ... its utter b*llshit that this is occuring. Do I have a defective player, even though it works beautifully 99% of the time? Is it the scratched discs? Does my Oppo hate me?

Any help would be highly appreciated thanks!! :confused:

I originally had a DVI/HDMI cable for my 971.This implies your TV has HDMI inputs.

I used an adapter from monoprice to hook the dvi input into the hdmi input on the new 970.What DVI input? Why didn't you use the HDMI cable that came with the 970, rather than doing multiple DVI/HDMI conversions?

ETA: Reading more carefully between the lines, it appears that perhaps the supplied HDMI cable was too short for your needs.

Here are the circumstances when they happened. They have all happened on scratched up Blockbuster discs (Old cable - MI3, New Cable - Sin City, Cars), so could this result from those banged-up discs? The only time it randomly happened on my own disc was on the brand new ultimate edition of From Russia with Love, but I may have been switching the output resolution on that disc.It does sound like a bad disc problem, if you don't see it with your own discs. As for FRwL, you should try it again, since you don't remember under what circumstances this occurred.

GONK - What I did was, I left the DVI to HDMI cable connected between the two, then I connected up my Component Cables between them also, thus I now have DVD signal going to BOTH ..... the Toshiba HDTV is set for HD1 Component I/O to DVD Player. And the Resolution on TV is set at 1080i - same as the OPPO.

I have contacted OPPO Support - which has been GREAT BTW in attempting to help me out. And they have told my, once again, to download and install that BETA Firmware - which I am still attempting to do correctly.....using NERO...also downloaded that "Burn at Once" Program: BUT having difficulties knowing what/how to use that 939 BIN, cannot find an ISO, and cannot, so fAR, figure out how to get either NERO or the other program to "accept the unzipped download" as a File...........sorry.....NEED Tech Support RIGHT HERE, as you can surmise by now.......................wonder how long it will be until this Firmware is NOT BETA anymore............maybe I should live with these "slimmer" characters until they get the BUGS out and release the FINISHED NEW Firmware???

PS - - - Since I am connected up DVI OUT of TV to HDMI out of DVD and also Component cables I/O....what Color Space should I have it on in Setup?

TKS Michael the Stupid!

"HDCP handshake error"

Any help would be highly appreciated thanks!! :confused:

Temporarily hook up the 970 via component and see if the bad discs give you problems there in any fashion. The blackout may just be Oppo's way of handling bad discs in the digital domain; you might see something completely different via component if it's disc (rather than handshake) related.

Correct.. the contents of the CD-R/DVD burned as an .iso is a .bin file.

but I just burned only the .bin file to a CD-R as data and popped it in the OPPO - and it comes up as Unknown Disc.

You have to burn it as a bootable .ISO image. I wasn't sure if it was possible to burn just the .bin file as data and have the OPPO recognize it (hence the "correct me if I'm wrong"), but now we know.It is not a bootable image. How can it be, when 935.bin is the only file on disc? The trick in burning the .bin directly is to set the proper label, because apparently the Oppo checks it against the image. E.g., to successfully burn the latest release firmware, the disc label needs to be set to OP970_4A_0111. Try it.

Again, this discussion is academic, because the preferred way to burn is via the iso image.

All right. My Olevia 747i came yesterday so I am finally able to use the HDMI out on my Oppo 970HD. It did not, however, make any difference to my subtitle problem.

And, I managed to get some pictures of the glitch in action. I used the high speed shooting mode on my digital camera to get these images, as I realized the glitch happened whether the film was paused or not.

These images represent a split second of video. Imagine those lines and dots running through the subtitles constantly during playback.

If this still doesn't look familiar to anybody then I'm going to call into question Oppo CS's assertion that this is a known and widespread issue, and i'll just pursue a warranty replacement.

This looks like it's from The Host, I played mine on my refurb'ed Oppo 970 and I don't see any streaking on the subtitles like yours show.

This implies your TV has HDMI inputs. What DVI input? Why didn't you use the HDMI cable that came with the 970, rather than doing multiple DVI/HDMI conversions?
Yeah, my Panny has a single hdmi input. I originally had the 971 and I needed a longer cable, so I got a 12 ft. dvi-hdmi cord (from wal-mart, which worked fine). I was being cheap so I just got a $5 adapter for the 970.

It does sound like a bad disc problem, if you don't see it with your own discs. As for FRwL, you should try it again, since you don't remember under what circumstances this occurred.


Thanks. I sure hope so too. I never realized that a scratched disc could cause a handshake error though ...

It is not a bootable image. How can it be, when 935.bin is the only file on disc? The trick in burning the .bin directly is to set the proper label, because apparently the Oppo checks it against the image. E.g., to successfully burn the latest release firmware, the disc label needs to be set to OP970_4A_0111. Try it.

Again, this discussion is academic, because the preferred way to burn is via the iso image.

The disc label for the hacked firmware .iso is OPPO970HACK. I doubt OPPO is checking for an .iso image named that. :)

And according to Wikipedia, there's more to the .iso than just the .bin file.

"As is typical for disc images, in addition to the data files that are contained in the ISO image, it also contains all the filesystem metadata, (boot code, structures, and attributes). All of this information is contained in a single file. These properties make it an attractive alternative to physical media for the distribution of software that requires this additional information as it is simple to retrieve over the Internet."

That's why burning just the .bin file doesn't work.

You can burn the straight Bin, but you have to make sure that you do not enable Joliet. The fily system has to be ISO 9660 Only.

Neuromancer FTW!

thanks for that info.

I have a question: who did the hacked firmware?

GONK - What I did was, I left the DVI to HDMI cable connected between the two, then I connected up my Component Cables between them also, thus I now have DVD signal going to BOTH ..... the Toshiba HDTV is set for HD1 Component I/O to DVD Player. And the Resolution on TV is set at 1080i - same as the OPPO.
If you have component and DVI connected and the TV set to use the HD1 component input, then the 970HD's HDMI output is not being used. The OPPO may be set to output 1080i, but unless you have the component hack installed it will switch to 480p at the component output whenever it starts playing a copy-protected disc. I still think that you need to figure out what the access code is to unlock your DVI input so you can use it - the code is entirely unrelated to the DVD player, and I'm 99.9% certain that this lock feature on the TV is why you can't use the DVI input.
I have contacted OPPO Support - which has been GREAT BTW in attempting to help me out. And they have told my, once again, to download and install that BETA Firmware - which I am still attempting to do correctly.....using NERO...also downloaded that "Burn at Once" Program: BUT having difficulties knowing what/how to use that 939 BIN, cannot find an ISO, and cannot, so fAR, figure out how to get either NERO or the other program to "accept the unzipped download" as a File...........sorry.....NEED Tech Support RIGHT HERE, as you can surmise by now.......................wonder how long it will be until this Firmware is NOT BETA anymore............maybe I should live with these "slimmer" characters until they get the BUGS out and release the FINISHED NEW Firmware???
There are a couple good tutorials around on how to burn the ISO file to a disc. First, be sure that the file you get still has the extension ISO (even though it can be recognized as a ZIP File and opened to get to the BIN file, you want to leave it alone as an ISO). It may not be the best summary of the process, but here's a piece of my 981HD review (http://www.prillaman.net/oppo981_review.html) that deals with burning the OPPO ISO files to a CD and install the firmware. It will work with 970HD firmware as well.
If you are at all concerned about how to update the 981HD's firmware, here's a summary of the process. First, you download the ISO image file from the 981HD support page at OPPO Digital. This file will be one and a half megabyte or so, which is puny compared to many printer, video card, or mouse drivers these days. Once you have the ISO file, you'll need to use a CD burning program like Nero to burn that file to a blank CD-R. When you do this, you need to make sure to select the option to "burn image to disc" in order for the disc to work properly. If you don't have any CD burning software installed, you can download a free program such as ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) that will burn the firmware image file to a blank CD-R (assuming, of course, that you have a CD-R drive). To burn an image file with ImgBurn, select "Write" from the Mode menu, insert a blank disc in the CD-R drive, and click on the "Browse for a file" icon at the top of the Source section of the screen (next to the note "Please select a file..."). This will bring up an Open dialog so that you can select the ISO image file downloaded from OPPO's site. After you've done this, you can select the "Write" button at the bottom left corner of the window and the program will burn the firmware data to the blank CD-R. Once you have your firmware CD-R in hand, you just drop it in the player. You will be prompted to press "Play" to begin the firmware update, and after you do that the player will begin to read the new firmware off the disc. After it has the data, it will eject the disc and ask you to remove the disc from the tray. Do that, but do not close the tray or turn the player off because the player needs time to load the new firmware (there will be a message on the TV reminding you of this). When it is complete, the tray will close and the player will reboot. At this point, the new firmware is installed. The new firmware will overwrite any changes you made to the settings previously (TV display, HDMI output resolution, speaker settings, and so forth), so you'll want to take a minute to run through the 981HD's menus and get things dialed back in before you toss in a DVD to try out the new firmware. It might even be handy to write down your settings before the firmware update.
What occurs to me, though, is that with the component output being in use and a commercial (copy protected) disc in the tray, the 970HD is outputting 480p - and I thought the vertical squeeze bug only appeared when the output was at 720p or 1080i. Are we sure there's not something happening at the TV to zoom or stretch the image?

You can burn the straight Bin, but you have to make sure that you do not enable Joliet. The fily system has to be ISO 9660 Only.
Thanks Neuromacer, I should have mentioned the file system I used. Apparently, the disc label makes no difference, I just used it because Lament reported he couldn't burn the .bin directly. BTW, it seems to not make a difference whether you finalize the disc or not, AAMOF the Oppo ISOs have the disc open.

GONK - TKS for ALL the GREAT Help with this perdicament....you, no doubt are correct about my needing to get this "code" thing settled...........BUT for now, at least I can use it and from what OPPO Support tells me, makes sense, that once you get a Signal being sent to one connection - that same signal is going to the others too......BUT......I was hoping that the signal would not just "STOP" at the DVI INPUT but be processed even though the TV is setup for the HD2 Components.

BTW - I believe I have had success on the Firmware Burning, have not dropped it into the OPPO yet......I installed the"Burn at Once" Software and then re-downloaded their BETA Firmware, but this time it was NOT "wrapped up" in RAR to be un-zipped - - - it was NOW an ISO on my desktop....and when I clicked on it. it auto-opened that Burn Software and it was already in the WRITE Window...it all was successfully written to a CDROM.......BUT I cannot "explore" the "File" to SEE what exactly is in it....just titled "935 Bootvis Trace File: 1.43 MB"

IF I am successful putting this on my 970 - it would allow me to setup the connection between the two via DVI/HDMI correctly - - - PLUS I am hoping solve the distortion too.

BTW - - - - The Incredibles DVD would be protected wouldn't it? IF so from what you say - prior to playing it I use my Remote and it tells me that I am in 1080i, but when I start the movie it would revert to 480i or p = is this correct? BUT IF after I start the movie and push that 1080i button and it says 1080i that would mean that the signal IS going thru the DVI right?

TKS Miichael :confused:

Neuromancer FTW!

thanks for that info.

I have a question: who did the hacked firmware?

Some Russian guy. The reason why a new hack has not appeared is likely due to the Russian market having a cheaper/better toy. The OPDV971H had many mods because the Russian market was buying a good portion of them.

You tweak what you own.

What occurs to me, though, is that with the component output being in use and a commercial (copy protected) disc in the tray, the 970HD is outputting 480p - and I thought the vertical squeeze bug only appeared when the output was at 720p or 1080i. Are we sure there's not something happening at the TV to zoom or stretch the image?

The component outputs have an additional compression. So, depending on the display, 480p can show the compression error on some displays which have no overscan at 480p.

The CRAP is getting DEEPER here: My NEW 970 now no longer works.....the Self FIX has backfired as I suspected it might. I followed the instructions, I believe, and made a BETA Firmware Update CDROM........just tried the update, I did not get LUCKY, like someone said her, it told them basically Wrong Info and did not run it. Mine went thru all the procedures of UPDATE - play by play on my TV...after it was done and I turned if OFF, then unplugged it....when I started it back up.....I NO longer have the OPPO Screen saver on my set, can't use Setup. oSD etc.....and plays ONLY the Audio portion of a dVD.

My BIG question and possibly only answer that the final finished burn was NOT "ISO"............. The download used to come wrapped in RAR for me....now they changed it and it comes independent of RAR and as itself in ISO form...already loaded into the Burn at Once Program............EASY, I say.....WRONG! I used that burnt the update onto a CDROM and when done I look to see what it shows me is on that NEW CDROM - - - and it burnt that ISO but now it is called "935 Bootvis Trace File; 1.43 MB" so, not knowing anybetter, I GUESS, that the necessary whatever is IN that 935 File [won't let me explore it].
So THAT is what was put into my new Oppo - which is getting old fast and me along with it.

PLEASE IGNORE ALL of the ABOVE post: Eating CROW! My BAD and ALL of that...I was fulfilling a "self fulfilling prophecy" I think....OPPO Support has been GREAT! I screwed up....and gave up to early......had to HIT the HDMI Button again - and it is FULL functioning and ALIVE again! Thank God!

TKS for any and all help, Michael :confused:

The CRAP is getting DEEPER here: My NEW 970 now no longer works.....the Self FIX has backfired as I suspected it might. I followed the instructions, I believe, and made a BETA Firmware Update CDROM........just tried the update, I did not get LUCKY, like someone said her, it told them basically Wrong Info and did not run it. Mine went thru all the procedures of UPDATE - play by play on my TV...after it was done and I turned if OFF, then unplugged it....when I started it back up.....I NO longer have the OPPO Screen saver on my set, can't use Setup. oSD etc.....and plays ONLY the Audio portion of a dVD.

My BIG question and possibly only answer that the final finished burn was NOT "ISO"............. The download used to come wrapped in RAR for me....now they changed it and it comes independent of RAR and as itself in ISO form...already loaded into the Burn at Once Program............EASY, I say.....WRONG! I used that burnt the update onto a CDROM and when done I look to see what it shows me is on that NEW CDROM - - - and it burnt that ISO but now it is called "935 Bootvis Trace File; 1.43 MB" so, not knowing anybetter, I GUESS, that the necessary whatever is IN that 935 File [won't let me explore it].
So THAT is what was put into my new Oppo - which is getting old fast and me along with it.

TKS for any and all help, Michael :confused:

File > Load New Image, point to the .iso, click WRITE. that's all you did, right?

LAMENT, TKS - - - you are right.....it actually DID work, MY BAD! Please see above edit of freaked out post. ;)

Anybody else experience at all any very very slight video stuttering every once in a while? And on actual DVD's, not copies or anything like that. It's very very slight, like a split second. It doesn't really disrupt the movie but I notice it once in a while and it doesn't really look too natural.

I'm experiencing an annoying problem that so far seems unique: I'm having a periodic flicker in letterbox bars that seems to range from barely noticeable on certain dvds to extremely apparent on others. Both bars will quickly jump back and forth in brightness. The problem also seems to be more prevalent during certain scenes, though I have yet to find a real cause and effect here, as does it does not seem to relate to what is happening on screen.

This flicker also occurs with an all-black screen, as it appears that the black level is shifting back and forth. However, and this may just be my eyes, when the letterbox bars themselves are flickering, I see no change in the active screen.

This problem seems unique to the DVD player, as through cable I have none of these problems, with both 4:3 and widescreen letterbox. I should mention this is all occurring on a Panasonic th50px60u plasma.

I'm experiencing an annoying problem that so far seems unique: I'm having a periodic flicker in letterbox bars that seems to range from barely noticeable on certain dvds to extremely apparent on others. Both bars will quickly jump back and forth in brightness. The problem also seems to be more prevalent during certain scenes ... I should mention this is all occurring on a Panasonic th50px60u plasma.
I have the panasonic th42px50u (great displays aren't they?). These plasmas have excellent black levels, but are known to "float blacks." That is, the black levels seem to fluctuate depending on how much bright or white (contrasty) material is on screen. It actually happens when there are no letterbox bars, its just not as apparent. I just used an Avia disc and turned the picture setting (contrast or white levels) way down (from +18 to +13), which helped to reduce this flickering a lot. It's a known issue with the panasonics, but not an issue with your player. Hope this helps. :)

I have both the DV-981HD for my main room and the DV-970HD for my second room. I have a Denon AVR-2807, SA-8300HD cable box, and Toshiba 42LX196 in the main room, and Sharp LC-C3742U in my second room. I have had trouble with HDMI cables staying put in the devices because my 24AWG cables are heavy (especially in the Toshiba as they mount vertically - which is dumb IMHO). I am considering buying the 28AWG Monoprice port savers to help the HDMI cables stay in place and not stress the connectors. I also can use the extra 8 inches on each end that these would provide as my 6' cables are a little tight. Anyone have experience with these and know if there may be any difference in video quality, audio quality, or audio lag from the step down in cable size or the extra connection in the line? All thoughts would be very appreciated. Here is a link to the port saver cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...format=2&style=

I have both the DV-981HD for my main room and the DV-970HD for my second room. I have a Denon AVR-2807, SA-8300HD cable box, and Toshiba 42LX196 in the main room, and Sharp LC-C3742U in my second room. I have had trouble with HDMI cables staying put in the devices because my 24AWG cables are heavy (especially in the Toshiba as they mount vertically - which is dumb IMHO). I am considering buying the 28AWG Monoprice port savers to help the HDMI cables stay in place and not stress the connectors. I also can use the extra 8 inches on each end that these would provide as my 6' cables are a little tight. Anyone have experience with these and know if there may be any difference in video quality, audio quality, or audio lag from the step down in cable size or the extra connection in the line? All thoughts would be very appreciated. Here is a link to the port saver cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...format=2&style=I use the port savers with all my heavy gauge HDMI cables and they work fine.

Thanks for the comment. When you say they work well are you talking about for video only or audio and video? Thanks.

Since they are just short lengths of lighter gauge HDMI cable, they should pass both audio and video (check the description on the monoprice site).

So advice needed... is some occasional frame dropping normal? Should I return it for either a new one, or go for a different model like the 981?

Anyone here using the 970 with a VP/scaler?
What are you running and how is the performance?

Thanks
Rich

So advice needed... is some occasional frame dropping normal? Should I return it for either a new one, or go for a different model like the 981?

I have not noticed a frame drop. How do you detect this? A flicker or jump? I would not think it is normal. Is it reproducable at the same place in a dvd or random?

-Rich

Thanks for the comment. When you say they work well are you talking about for video only or audio and video? Thanks.2 of the cables attached to them are used to pass audio to a Denon 3806. Think of them as extensions, and short ones at that; unless there's something physically wrong with them, they shouldn't impact the signal.

Well first, depending on what somebody may think if I should get a different Oppo, I use a Sony Grand Wega 42" LCD Rear Projection HDTV, model 42A10.

These frame drops seem to happen only on certain DVD's, such as Monsters Inc. and the Trailer Park Boys Movie... these frame drops happen at all the same points though it seems, but on the discs it happens, it's throughout most of the entirety of the films, and yes, a very slight stutter occurs. Mind you, it's VERY VERY minor, enough so that I notice that it looks like maybe a frame had been skipped. Audio is not affected. Just the video.

I put in discs like Cars, Corpse Bride, South Park Season 9, Borat, and these don't have the same issue. It just seems like a couple of DVD's I've found so far does this in my Oppo 970. My discs are mint, and they never did this on my old progressive Panny.

I figure it might be a compatability issue with the Oppo and the way these discs were encoded. Although, I do notice some very very terrible frame dropping at the beginning of Star Wars Episode III... same place every time... after the beginning story credit roll is done, and then we pan down to the battle. Happens there VERY badly every time, it seems quite a lot of frames are skipped. This problem at this point IS VERY noticable. I wonder if the different chip in the 981 would serve me better, or if I should just get an exchange.

Well first, depending on what somebody may think if I should get a different Oppo, I use a Sony Grand Wega 42" LCD Rear Projection HDTV, model 42A10.

These frame drops seem to happen only on certain DVD's, such as Monsters Inc. and the Trailer Park Boys Movie... these frame drops happen at all the same points though it seems, but on the discs it happens, it's throughout most of the entirety of the films, and yes, a very slight stutter occurs. Mind you, it's VERY VERY minor, enough so that I notice that it looks like maybe a frame had been skipped. Audio is not affected. Just the video.

I put in discs like Cars, Corpse Bride, South Park Season 9, Borat, and these don't have the same issue. It just seems like a couple of DVD's I've found so far does this in my Oppo 970. My discs are mint, and they never did this on my old progressive Panny.

I figure it might be a compatability issue with the Oppo and the way these discs were encoded. Although, I do notice some very very terrible frame dropping at the beginning of Star Wars Episode III... same place every time... after the beginning story credit roll is done, and then we pan down to the battle. Happens there VERY badly every time, it seems quite a lot of frames are skipped. This problem at this point IS VERY noticable. I wonder if the different chip in the 981 would serve me better, or if I should just get an exchange.I've watched SW III a few times since getting my 970 this week and I don't see any problems. I have't seen any problems with about 10 DVD's I've tried out. I think you've got a bad unit.

Try an experiment...copy SW III onto a DVD+/-R and see if the same thing happens.

I've watched SW III a few times since getting my 970 this week and I don't see any problems. I have't seen any problems with about 10 DVD's I've tried out. I think you've got a bad unit.

Try an experiment...copy SW III onto a DVD+/-R and see if the same thing happens.
You'll have trouble getting Saw III to copy to a DVD+/-R it has a unique copy write.

You'll have trouble getting Saw III to copy to a DVD+/-R it has a unique copy write.Just out of curiosity, I was able to copy SW III using DVD Shrink with no problems.

Just out of curiosity, I was able to copy SW III using DVD Shrink with no problems.
Shrink simply reduces the size to fit on a 4.7GB disc you would have had to use a program to remove the copy protection first...

I've really been enjoying my Oppo 970HD for some time now. I can't take advantage of much of what this player has to offer ( my video connection is component to a non-HD Loewe television), but it is a good player for the money and plays anything I throw at it.
I'm considering taking the plunge into SACD and DVD-Audio hi- res playback but am confused by some probably pretty basic questions. I'd be really grateful for any advice before I purchase the six analog cables I'll need.
My current audio setup is by digital coax to an Arcam AVR100 receiver. I have a Mirage surround speaker setup with a subwoofer. No HDMI on the Arcam so I'll be using analog cables from the Oppo to the receiver. My questions:
1) I'm assuming that with an analog setup like this, I'll be able to enjoy the hi-res sound contained on my various Doors, Talking Heads, Dylan SACDS and DVD-Audio discs. is this correct? Will I have a problem with bass because I have a subwoofer? What would be the ideal setup with my equipment?
2) While this is the ONLY way for me to listen to the hi-res material, I have no idea if I'll enjoy redbook CD sound more from the Oppo's analog output or by letting my Arcam decode the digital signal. I'm sure I'd also like to hear my DTS/DD DVDs through my digital connection. I have read here that all signals are active at the same time. True? Is there a control to switch between analog and digital input for easy comparison? I couldn't find one in the manual. Surely, I wouldn't have to disconnect the analog cables when I wanted to listen to the digital connection, would I?
Sorry for all the questions. Some of these may have been answered in previous posts, but I tried to search this massive thread by keyword and didn't find anyone with exactly the same questions I had. I've been intrigued with hi-res audio for several years now. Now that I have a player that supports it and several discs that have that capability (purchased for the remastered CD layer), I'd like to explore. I just want to know what to expect before investing $100 in analog cables.
Thanks for any help!

Shrink simply reduces the size to fit on a 4.7GB disc you would have had to use a program to remove the copy protection first...You can elect 'No Compression' and then the file is around 6GB. You then need a dual layer disc to burn the movie. I didn't use any other program to remove the copy protection. I only do that if DVD Shrink doesn't work the first time.

You can elect 'No Compression' and then the file is around 6GB. You then need a dual layer disc to burn the movie. I didn't use any other program to remove the copy protection. I only do that if DVD Shrink doesn't work the first time.
Hmmm that's weird never heard of that before...If it is that easy why so many copy protection removal programs :D?

Once you have the analog cables run from the 970HD to your Arcam, you will be able to play back those SACD and DVD-Audio discs. The sub will be no problem, although you'll probably want to set the speakers to "small" in the 970HD's speaker setup menu so that the 970HD provides some bass management.

I still use the digital output for CD's and regular DVD's, with my Outlaw Model 990 handling the DSP and D/A duties in those cases. All of the audio outputs are active at once, so this works just fine.

Hmmm that's weird never heard of that before...If it is that easy why so many copy protection removal programs :D?A lot of newer DVD's have copy protection techniques. The 'older' DVDs like the Star Wars series probably do not. I'm no expert on the subject. If Shrink doesn't work, I go to DVD Decrypter. If that doesn't work, I use DVD Fab 'something', then Shrink on the files to create the ISO I need to burn.

A lot of newer DVD's have copy protection techniques. The 'older' DVDs like the Star Wars series probably do not. I'm no expert on the subject. If Shrink doesn't work, I go to DVD Decrypter. If that doesn't work, I use DVD Fab 'something', then Shrink on the files to create the ISO I need to burn.
Exactly why I'm REALLY surprised you got SAW III to work simply by using DVD shrink especially considering the DVD decrypt forums are packed full of people that couldn't get it to work.

Thanks, gonk. I guess I'm still confused how the Oppo will decide to send regular CD sound and DVD sound out over the digital connection. Is digital dominant over analog for these media or are there menu changes that need to be made for the Oppo? Is there a way to isten to regular CD with the analog connection to decide whether the Oppo or Arcam is producing better sound? Stick with me. I think I've almost got it!Thanks.

Exactly why I'm REALLY surprised you got SAW III to work simply by using DVD shrink especially considering the DVD decrypt forums are packed full of people that couldn't get it to work.

I think you guys are talking about two different movies, SWIII (Star Wars) and Saw III, and are both right.

I think you guys are talking about two different movies, SWIII (Star Wars) and Saw III, and are both right.
AHHHH that definitely explains it all thanks mate. :D

I still use the digital output for CD's and regular DVD's, with my Outlaw Model 990 handling the DSP and D/A duties in those cases. All of the audio outputs are active at once, so this works just fine.

Have you A-B'ed the Oppo against the Outlaw? I'm curious because a friend of mine talked with Oppo and supposedly the audio out on the 970 is pretty good. Oppo said it was better than the 981 because it only used one board where the 981 used three.

I have a Rega Apollo CD player that's not hooked up yet into my new setup. But it'll be interested to compare the Oppo against the Rega as well as against the Marantz SR8000 I'm using for D/A duties now.

regards, David

Thanks, gonk. I guess I'm still confused how the Oppo will decide to send regular CD sound and DVD sound out over the digital connection. Is digital dominant over analog for these media or are there menu changes that need to be made for the Oppo? Is there a way to isten to regular CD with the analog connection to decide whether the Oppo or Arcam is producing better sound? Stick with me. I think I've almost got it!Thanks.

Kevin, the Oppo, like most DVD/CD players, sends the audio signals out through all of its outputs at once. On the receiver end you need to switch through your various inputs to listen either to the analog feed or either the HDMI, optical or coax digital feeds. You can have all four hooked up at once and compare but I suspect you won't hear any difference between any of the digital feeds. The quality of their sound really depends on the digital to analog converter in your receiver. So...the answer to your question is it depends on your receiver setup whether you will be able to easily switch between the analog input and the digital ones. On my Denon this is no problem. Hope this helps.

Hey, I got it! Thanks guys! It's seems obvious now. I'm looking forward to some good music in the future!
Kevin

I've decided, I'm going to contact Oppo on Monday and ask for an exchange. There's probably a bad laser pick-up. Maybe it got minorly damaged during its week long ground shipping fiasco. I don't know, either way. I know that it shouldn't be doing what it's doing, even if it was just on certain discs. Everybody raves about how this player handles anything that's thrown at it. If my old crappy Panny can do it, the Oppo should as well. So I figure I'll just take my luck with a replacement... because the video quality I am quite amazed by and I want to still own an Oppo.

I was just wondering what their overall turn-around time is for getting it to them, and having a new one back. Details in return experiences appreciated. Also, I don't know if mine was completely 'new' or not, as the little clear film isn't on the front of the DVD player.

Have you A-B'ed the Oppo against the Outlaw? I'm curious because a friend of mine talked with Oppo and supposedly the audio out on the 970 is pretty good. Oppo said it was better than the 981 because it only used one board where the 981 used three.

I have a Rega Apollo CD player that's not hooked up yet into my new setup. But it'll be interested to compare the Oppo against the Rega as well as against the Marantz SR8000 I'm using for D/A duties now.

regards, David
I have A-B'ed the two. I think I have some discussion of it in my review (http://www.prillaman.net/oppo981_review.html). For CD's, I prefer digital connection to the 990 with the 990 upsampling the PCM. For movies, the differences were subtle at best, but I've got a couple DTS CD's that benefited from letting the 990 handle the heavy lifting.

Kevin, you're going to choose the "5.1 format" input with your receiver when playing the SACD or DVD-Audio discs in the player. You'll need to look in your manual for the receiver to see where that choice exists.

Just my luck!! After buying my new 32" Vizio for the bedroom I went to Amazon to order the 970 after the great service the 971H I own has given me!!! Well would'nt you know it their out of stock until April!!!! Now I have to decide whether to wait for Amazon (free shipping) or add 20 bucks or so to the cost and buy it direct from Oppo.

Just my luck!! After buying my new 32" Vizio for the bedroom I went to Amazon to order the 970 after the great service the 971H I own has given me!!! Well would'nt you know it their out of stock until April!!!! Now I have to decide whether to wait for Amazon (free shipping) or add 20 bucks or so to the cost and buy it direct from Oppo.I'm only paid $7.95 shipping and it came the very next day. Granted I live a few miles from Oppo, but the FedEx actually went to another city 85 miles away before coming back to my area.

BLUEMAX - BUY it RIGHT HERE from Richard/AVS w FREE Shipping......SEE Thread LINK above.....I bought mine from them and it went GREAT! Can't go wrong and will support this AWESOME Site.

BEST to YOU! Michael ;)

Kevin, you're going to choose the "5.1 format" input with your receiver when playing the SACD or DVD-Audio discs in the player. You'll need to look in your manual for the receiver to see where that choice exists.

On my Arcam it's a button labeled EXT 5.1. Thanks for your help, it looks like I'm ready to go.

I haven't seen it posted here yet but has anybody besides me noticed that this player won't fit into a '1 rack space' scenario? With the feet, which are not removable, it stands just a bit too high. Kinda bums me out.

Chris

BLUEMAX - BUY it RIGHT HERE from Richard/AVS w FREE Shipping......SEE Thread LINK above.....I bought mine from them and it went GREAT! Can't go wrong and will support this AWESOME Site.

BEST to YOU! Michael ;)


Thanks for the advise! I went to their website and there doesn't seem to be a way to order online. I emailed richard with an inquiry surrounding availability and how to order. Always willing to support those who make this forum a reality!!

I ordered from here as well and I must admit they don't do a great job promoting the sale of the Oppo. It's not listed on their site and the site doesn't make reference to ordering methods. Anyway, I simply called them the next day and placed my order over the phone. Everyone was friendly and helpful.

I figure it might be a compatability issue with the Oppo and the way these discs were encoded. Although, I do notice some very very terrible frame dropping at the beginning of Star Wars Episode III... same place every time... after the beginning story credit roll is done, and then we pan down to the battle.

If you check the OPDV971H threads I have talked about this error, a lot. This is an error with the cadence detection between the opening credits (this is a branching credits, with the DVD player able to select a different credit for the language you have your DVD player set to) and then the actual movie. This sequence is very repeatable in terms of invoking the error, but is equally repeatable in terms of getting the pan to look perfect.

If you jog to just after the credits right as the video starts panning, you will notice no jerkiness at all.

Well maybe that solves that error, but it doesn't solve the fact that in Trailer Park Boys the Movie and Monsters Inc.... there appears to be a frame dropped every 5-10 seconds. What's hilarious is that it doesn't do it with all of my discs but, from what i've heard, the disc shouldn't matter. Everybody says Oppo's will play whatever you throw at it pretty well.

GONK - The Latest and GREATEST from here: OPPO Support verified that with the way I had my 970 connected even though it would tell me 1080i that does NOT mean it is in that resolution - could have reverted to 480i/p, and can only really tell by using a function available on some TV's............so no doubt, especially after you read the next....it must have been downgrading the resolution with my Component I/O.
NOW: The GREATEST: With OPPO Support I was able to create a Beta Firmware Update Disc and I Flashed the 970 and then I was able to do what you felt really needed to be done, plug in that 4 digit code which "unlocked" my DVI to HDMI, and.................WOW! Immediately I could SEE a HUGE difference even in that OPPO Screen - it was like someone had turned on the LIGHTS, I mean BRIGHT! "The Incredibles" was NO longer done in pastels.....had to try to tone it down alot....way to colorful for me.....good problem to have though. Next I tried an old copy of "The Predator"....which at first was kind of disappointing, kind of grainy and just BAD.....but I kept pulling up Setup and adjusting various things plus turned on Noise Reduction and ended up setteling on 720p instead of 1080i and it ended up VERY GOOD!!!

PS - LOVE that Memory feature too! A BONUS.

TKS for the Help, Michael ;)

TKS

So you've got the DVI input going now? Excellent - glad to hear they got you on track. Your 970HD can now really show you what it's got. :)

GONK - The Latest and GREATEST from here: OPPO Support verified that with the way I had my 970 connected even though it would tell me 1080i that does NOT mean it is in that resolution - could have reverted to 480i/p, and can only really tell by using a function available on some TV's............so no doubt, especially after you read the next....it must have been downgrading the resolution with my Component I/O.
NOW: The GREATEST: With OPPO Support I was able to create a Beta Firmware Update Disc and I Flashed the 970 and then I was able to do what you felt really needed to be done, plug in that 4 digit code which "unlocked" my DVI to HDMI, and.................WOW! Immediately I could SEE a HUGE difference even in that OPPO Screen - it was like someone had turned on the LIGHTS, I mean BRIGHT! "The Incredibles" was NO longer done in pastels.....had to try to tone it down alot....way to colorful for me.....good problem to have though. Next I tried an old copy of "The Predator"....which at first was kind of disappointing, kind of grainy and just BAD.....but I kept pulling up Setup and adjusting various things plus turned on Noise Reduction and ended up setteling on 720p instead of 1080i and it ended up VERY GOOD!!!

I missed something here. Is this a Beta firmware that isn't out yet? Or the current firmware? What is 'unlocked' DVI to HDMI?

Chris

The beta firmware is the version that addresses the vertical compression, which OPPO still isn't satisfied with but will e-mail to people on request.

Cyberized HDTV has an option to lock certain inputs, and his DVI input had gotten locked. As a result, he couldn't use the 970HD's HDMI output until unlocking the display's DVI input using a four-digit code.

Thank you gonk.

CCLAY - If you go to the OPPO Site, choose the 970HD at the top, then when you get that click on Support and you will see 3 Firmware Versions. ;)

Neuromancer, if it's not too much trouble would you briefly explain the PAL synchronization error of Oppo units. Is it audio related? I was playing a PAL disc the other day and the audio was juuuuust a bit fast. I could find no way to correct for it.

Forgive me if this has already been addressed. Thanks.

The problem with the DV-970HD is that it will not be able to do a 2:2 Cadence decoding. This means that you may see more aliasing and interlacing errors with the DV-970HD as compared to the OPDV971H or the DV-981HD.

A secondary error is that PAL audio and video when converted to NTSC has to be sped up by about 4%. This can cause audio synchronization errors. Try using a straight PAL signal if at all possible.

Thanks Neuromancer. Actually, funny thing, I just got the Olevia 747i and was thrilled to discover that it will take and upscale a PAL 576i signal from the 970HD. It looks miles and away clearer and sharper than PAL>NTSC conversion.

So, I am actually able to watch the PAL content in it's native format, but the audio wasn't in synch for one title. I tried a 2nd disc and it seemed to be OK, but I don't recall having synch issues with the 1st disc during past viewings. I wonder if it's something happening in my set rather than the player.

I have just finished testing my new DV-970HD and DV-981HD players. I am quite happy with the 981 but have noticed some issues with the 970. When I upscale DVDs on the 970 to either 720P or 1080i I am getting some noise at the top of the screen and sometimes on the side edges and bottom. In most instances this is a thin white line at the top. On other discs this is a slightly discolored edge on the left and right side in addition to the white line at the top. I do not see this at all at the same resolutions with the same discs when played on the 981. I believe I have all the settings the same on both units so I don't think it is because of the way I have them set up. Anyone have any experience with this and is there a fix? Thx.

50 Hz video derived from a 24 fps film has a speed error of about 4%, this is a minor but real issue in 50 Hz PAL countries. (Brazil is 60 Hz PAL and that is a horse of a different color).

Richard.

I recently bought the 970 and wrote to Oppo tech support about some questions I had after reading the manual and the "advanced" setup guide. Specifically, I was confused about when the speaker settings do and don't affect the output.

My first response from Oppo was that the "DownMix settings" effect all PCM audio. Fair enough.

Then I asked:
'If you have "Digital Output" set to RAW and "HDMI Audio" set to AUTO, what kind of signal is transmitted over the HDMI when you play a CD? It is PCM, correct? In this case, do the Speaker Settings affect the CD audio over HDMI?'

The response I got was this:

'If the receiving equipement will accept RAW bitstream then you will have
a raw RedBook signal to the receiving device through HDMI. Otherwise, it
will be PCM. If PCM, then the DownMix and Speaker settings will effect
the audio output.'


I have never heard of this "raw RedBook signal."

Are most receivers capable of decoding this?

I have never heard of anything other than PCM over SPDIF when playing CD audio (and the above setting supposedly duplicate over HDMI what you would get from the digital audio output.)

Just wanted to get any explanations you might have about the "raw RedBook" over HDMI....

P.S. Oppo tech support has been helpful and quick with replies.

I am considering the oppo 970 for use with an external scaler since it provides 480i digital output via HDMI.

I would like to hear comments from anyone else who has used the 970 in this manner.

Were you happy with the overall operation of this player as basically a dvd transport/MPEG decoder?

Do the various FW upgrades have any impact on the 480i hdmi output?

Is there any better product out there at all for this purpose? (build quality issues aside. I understand it's plastic. This is not a problem).

For example, does the 480i hdmi from a toshiba A2 have anything different at all from the 480i hdmi from the 970? My guess is they are identical unless either the lasers or MPEG decoder chips make a difference.

Thanks
Rich

If you check the Anthem D2/AVM50 Thread in Amps, Receivers and Processors Forum you'll find that the bulk of users have a 970 as a transport with 480i over HDMI as you want to do. This is with the Gennum scaler in the Anthem products. Check the other Scaler Forums as well and I think you wil find the 970 is used this way across the board.

There should be no F/W issues, however, you need to be aware that for Video, use 480i. For Multichannel Audio (SACD/DVDA) over HDMI you must switch the 970 manually to 1080i to get all channels.

----- SNIP -----
Then I asked:
'If you have "Digital Output" set to RAW and "HDMI Audio" set to AUTO, what kind of signal is transmitted over the HDMI when you play a CD? It is PCM, correct? In this case, do the Speaker Settings affect the CD audio over HDMI?'

The response I got was this:

'If the receiving equipement will accept RAW bitstream then you will have
a raw RedBook signal to the receiving device through HDMI. Otherwise, it
will be PCM. If PCM, then the DownMix and Speaker settings will effect
the audio output.'

I have never heard of this "raw RedBook signal." Are most receivers capable of decoding this?

I have never heard of anything other than PCM over SPDIF when playing CD audio (and the above setting supposedly duplicate over HDMI what you would get from the digital audio output.)Yeah, that's a new one for me too. I have been using HDMI out for several months and am getting PCM for all audio media -- SACD, DVD-A, and Red Book CD. At least that's what my AVR display says (Pio Elite 72) . Obviously for Red Book CD's it shows it as 44.1KHz. (For SACD at 88.2KHz and other times at 96KHz.)

Another thing about that response puzzles me. If the receiving equipement will accept RAW bitstream then you will have a raw RedBook signal to the receiving device through HDMI. Otherwise, it will be PCM. Does that mean the Oppo is doing some kind of handshake negotiation with the AVR to decide which signal to send it? Somehow I doubt it.

And one last thing. I always thought the speaker settings did not affect any digital signals -- only the multi channel analog signal.

Perhaps neuromancer or gonk can clarify all this for us.

For example, does the 480i hdmi from a toshiba A2 have anything different at all from the 480i hdmi from the 970? My guess is they are identical unless either the lasers or MPEG decoder chips make a difference.
Yes, the player matters even when outputing 480i digitally via HDMI....

Lasers (i.e. the disk transport / DVD-ROM) matter for reading damaged disks / error correction.

MPEG decoders (i.e. MPEG to 4:2:2/4:4:4/RGB video processors) matter quite a bit more than you might expect. See the "Secrets" review and DVD Benchmark for more info than you could want...

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_3/dvd-benchmark-introduction-9-2000.html

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=DVD+Player&manufacturer=68&maxprice=200&deInt=MediaTek&mpeg=Mediatek

I don't recall having synch issues with the 1st disc during past viewings. I wonder if it's something happening in my set rather than the player.

If you interrupt playback (pausing, chapter skipping, accessing menus) you can effect the audio and video synchronizations. Try to playback the title without interrupting playback and note any difference in performance.

Another thing about that response puzzles me. Does that mean the Oppo is doing some kind of handshake negotiation with the AVR to decide which signal to send it? Somehow I doubt it.

The HDMI output originally had three three settings: S/PDIF, LPCM, and Off. Originally you had to force raw bitstream or a PCM signal through the DVD HDMI interface. With the latest firmware releases this is auto negotiated. For DVD-Video (Dolby Digital and DTS) and CD the audio should be a raw bitstream, with the SACD and DVD-Audio being PCM.

You can verify auto-negotiation by connecting the DVD player to a television and leaving it at Auto. The DVD player "automagically" sends PCM to the display no matter what the source material.

I have just finished testing my new DV-970HD and DV-981HD players. I am quite happy with the 981 but have noticed some issues with the 970. When I upscale DVDs on the 970 to either 720P or 1080i I am getting some noise at the top of the screen and sometimes on the side edges and bottom. In most instances this is a thin white line at the top. On other discs this is a slightly discolored edge on the left and right side in addition to the white line at the top. I do not see this at all at the same resolutions with the same discs when played on the 981. I believe I have all the settings the same on both units so I don't think it is because of the way I have them set up. Anyone have any experience with this and is there a fix? Thx.

Anyone have any comments or ideas for me to try?

The HDMI output originally had three three settings: S/PDIF, LPCM, and Off. Originally you had to force raw bitstream or a PCM signal through the DVD HDMI interface. With the latest firmware releases this is auto negotiated. For DVD-Video (Dolby Digital and DTS) and CD the audio should be a raw bitstream, with the SACD and DVD-Audio being PCM.

You can verify auto-negotiation by connecting the DVD player to a television and leaving it at Auto. The DVD player "automagically" sends PCM to the display no matter what the source material.

I guess my question is, with a CD, what is the difference between raw bitstream and PCM? I thought PCM WAS the raw bitstream for a CD. :confused:

CD audio is encoded as 16-bit 44.1Khz PCM. The difference between raw redbook (sic) and "PCM" is what device is decoding it. The DVD player can either pass the PCM to your receiver for all audio processing (raw bitstream), or the CD can be decoded completely by your DVD player then sent to your receiver for amplification (PCM decoding).

OPPO was trying do differentiate the difference between the raw PCM from the disc (red book) and the decoded PCM of the player.

Anyone have any comments or ideas for me to try?

Take a picture of your error. This can either be a vertical compression error compounded by a horizontal (pillarbox) error. Or it could be something I have never seen before with the DV-970HD.

OPPO was trying do differentiate the difference between the raw PCM from the disc (red book) and the decoded PCM of the player.

I assume, then, that "decoded PCM" actually runs the audio through the bass management and other audio processing controls? So if you want the unadulterated data, chose RAW?

I also assume the HDCD "decoding" would be done in the player in PCM mode, but would have to be done by the "DAC" in raw (which very few devices support, BTW).

That is correct. The decoded PCM has been passed through all those little filters and enhancers and what not on the DV-970HD. For the purist, this is probably not the audio they want going into their expensive amplifier.

I have just finished testing my new DV-970HD and DV-981HD players. I am quite happy with the 981 but have noticed some issues with the 970. When I upscale DVDs on the 970 to either 720P or 1080i I am getting some noise at the top of the screen and sometimes on the side edges and bottom. In most instances this is a thin white line at the top. On other discs this is a slightly discolored edge on the left and right side in addition to the white line at the top. I do not see this at all at the same resolutions with the same discs when played on the 981. I believe I have all the settings the same on both units so I don't think it is because of the way I have them set up. Anyone have any experience with this and is there a fix? Thx.

I've noticed this too, in some situations. I get a diffuse white band at the top of 16:9 movies when I'm viewing them with my BenQ PB6100 projector at 480p (over component). I haven't noticed the white band when viewing widescreen movies on my Sony 32" Bravia HDTV, but I'm connected to the TV via HDMI, so maybe that makes a difference. I don't get the white band when watching 4:3 movies on the projector. This doesn't seem to be a common occurrence, and I thought it was probably something unique to my projector, which is why I hadn't brought it up here.

This has always confused me. I have a panasonic plasma 50u. On the color space setting, which option should I use: RGB or YCbCr 4:4:4? Thanks mucho

Im having trouble figuring something out and wondering if someone could help. My receiver (onkyo tx-sr674) isnt picking up DD or DTS signals from my oppo 970 connected through HDMI. It just reads "PCM MULTICHAN HDMI". I have tried numerous things all to the same end. When i play xbox connected through component it picks up the DD signal right away which leads me to believe it might be a setting on my oppo 970. For some reason in the dvd player setup menu, the "hdmi audio" option is blacked out and not selectable. I have the audio stream set to RAW. Any ideas?

HELP!

I hooked up the 970HD to a Sony WEGA via component cables. The picture looked like it was pumping a progressive signal to the TV.

I hooked it up to composite and checked the settings in the menu and did not see a section to switch from/to interlace and/or progressive signal.

I have two other players where I had this problem also. My APEX - I had to go into the settings menu and switch to interlaced signal and on my JVC there is switch in the back that let's me choose between 480i or 480p (all hooked up to the same Sony WEGA throughout the years)

Does the 970HD have something like this? or does it only give a progressive stream through the component outputs? or is it just broken?

Thanks in advance.

Im having trouble figuring something out and wondering if someone could help. My receiver (onkyo tx-sr674) isnt picking up DD or DTS signals from my oppo 970 connected through HDMI. It just reads "PCM MULTICHAN HDMI". I have tried numerous things all to the same end. When i play xbox connected through component it picks up the DD signal right away which leads me to believe it might be a setting on my oppo 970. For some reason in the dvd player setup menu, the "hdmi audio" option is blacked out and not selectable. I have the audio stream set to RAW. Any ideas?
Your HDMI Audio is set to "LPCM." You should change it to "Auto." Go into the setup menu when the disc isn't playing or no disc is in the player.

Your HDMI Audio is set to "LPCM." You should change it to "Auto." Go into the setup menu when the disc isn't playing or no disc is in the player.


THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! something so simple but i obviously didnt think to switch it while the dvd was stopped. :rolleyes:

HELP!

I hooked up the 970HD to a Sony WEGA via component cables. The picture looked like it was pumping a progressive signal to the TV.

I hooked it up to composite and checked the settings in the menu and did not see a section to switch from/to interlace and/or progressive signal.

I have two other players where I had this problem also. My APEX - I had to go into the settings menu and switch to interlaced signal and on my JVC there is switch in the back that let's me choose between 480i or 480p (all hooked up to the same Sony WEGA throughout the years)

Does the 970HD have something like this? or does it only give a progressive stream through the component outputs? or is it just broken?

Thanks in advance.I'm not using component, but I believe pressing the HDMI button will cycle through the output resolutions.

Edit: I didn't read your post carefully enough. You cannot output progressive via composite or S-Video. Why are you trying to use composite?

I just got my 970HD today (yea!). I too am using component into a Sony WEGA XBR.
My understanding is the upconvert will only work on non-copy protected disks (or using the hacked firmware which removes this restriction). This is the rule, not Oppo's fault.

The HDMI button doesn't cycle through resolutions - at least for my setup using components. 480i is it.

But I'd like to know too what the resolution is if you are using a non-copy protected DVD? The "Info" button doesn't say. How do I know what the TV is seeing?

I just got my 970HD today (yea!). I too am using component into a Sony WEGA XBR.
My understanding is the upconvert will only work on non-copy protected disks (or using the hacked firmware which removes this restriction). This is the rule, not Oppo's fault.

The HDMI button doesn't cycle through resolutions - at least for my setup using components. 480i is it.

But I'd like to know too what the resolution is if you are using a non-copy protected DVD? The "Info" button doesn't say. How do I know what the TV is seeing?


So, in reference to my post on the last page. You have no problems watching DVD's on your (non-progressive) Sony using Component ?

Edit: I didn't read your post carefully enough. You cannot output progressive via composite or S-Video. Why are you trying to use composite?

No. Sorry. I meant, I want to output interlaced via components to my Sony WEGA. When I hook up the components I just get a rolling picture. When I hook up using composite, it works fine.

I was assuming that the Oppo was pumping a progressive signal through the component outputs and that's why my Sony WEGA was getting a rolling picture on the display.

So, in reference to my post on the last page. You have no problems watching DVD's on your (non-progressive) Sony using Component ?

No problems, the 970HD looks great, make that absolutely great, on my non-progressive Sony with component. I've only had it a few hours so can't really determine yet if the 970HD is upscaling or not, but the picture is mighty impressive (even with copy-protected disks).

Maybe that's the test - compare a copy-protected with the same DVD that's unprotected (no compression to be fair). Just wish the TV told me what the resolution it was seeing.

I'd check what you've got in the "Setup" menus - my guess for you is an incorrect option is selected. Also press "Info" and see what you've got - if you can read it.

The HDMI button doesn't cycle through resolutions - at least for my setup using components. 480i is it.The HDMI button doesn't work while a DVD is playing. Make sure you press stop first.

But I'd like to know too what the resolution is if you are using a non-copy protected DVD? The "Info" button doesn't say. How do I know what the TV is seeing?Your TV should report what input signal it's receiving. Use the TV's info/display button.

No problems, the 970HD looks great, make that absolutely great, on my non-progressive Sony with component. I've only had it a few hours so can't really determine yet if the 970HD is upscaling or not, but the picture is mighty impressive (even with copy-protected disks).Now I'm confused. If by "non-progressive" you're saying your TV is 480i, how do you expect the Oppo to upscale and have the TV display it? If it's 1080i, ignore my question and see my reply above.

So, in reference to my post on the last page. You have no problems watching DVD's on your (non-progressive) Sony using Component ?

I played with my setup and I'm sure you've pressed the P/N (PAL/NTSC) button and confused the TV. So eject the DVD, press the P/N button, and I bet this resolves the picture rolling you're seeing. Look on the upper left of the screen - it'll cycle through PAL > NTSC > Auto - I had to select NTSC.

To epsilon: Unfortunately my Sony doesn't display the resolution on the menu so I going to have to do some experimentation. And yes, it's 1080i.

To epsilon: Unfortunately my Sony doesn't display the resolution on the menu so I going to have to do some experimentation. And yes, it's 1080i.IIRC, the Oppo shows the resolution it's putting out on the front panel, after each press of the HDMI button.

IIRC, the Oppo shows the resolution it's putting out on the front panel, after each press of the HDMI button.

Pressing HDMI says 480p on unprotected DVD - so can I assume it's upconverted my 480i source?
With a protected DVD it just shows the "circle with slash" so I'm guessing that's 480i.

Pressing HDMI says 480p - so can I assume it's upconverted my 480i source?
Seems like this is what's happening.Correct. If it's a commercial DVD and not a backup, it won't go any higher (unless you use the hacked firmware).

Correct. If it's a commercial DVD and not a backup, it won't go any higher (unless you use the hacked firmware).

Ah so. Many thanks for clearing this up, appreciated. Another happy Oppo customer :)

Pressing HDMI says 480p on unprotected DVD - so can I assume it's upconverted my 480i source?
With a protected DVD it just shows the "circle with slash" so I'm guessing that's 480i.Actually, your edited post doesn't sound right. Protected should go up to 480p, unprotected to 1080i. I'll repeat myself, in case you missed it: the player must be stopped before you can change resolutions.

'If the receiving equipement will accept RAW bitstream then you will have
a raw RedBook signal

The raw Cosmopolitan signal looks best on mine...

Actually, your edited post doesn't sound right. Protected should go up to 480p, unprotected to 1080i. I'll repeat myself, in case you missed it: the player must be stopped before you can change resolutions.

Hmmm. Stopped player but no 1080i option on unprotected disk. Will have to dig into this tomorrow. Thanks.

I played with my setup and I'm sure you've pressed the P/N (PAL/NTSC) button and confused the TV. So eject the DVD, press the P/N button, and I bet this resolves the picture rolling you're seeing. Look on the upper left of the screen - it'll cycle through PAL > NTSC > Auto - I had to select NTSC.

To epsilon: Unfortunately my Sony doesn't display the resolution on the menu so I going to have to do some experimentation. And yes, it's 1080i.

OK. Yeah, I did cycle using the P/N button and it just display 480P then 576P then it repeats those settings on the OPPO Player Orange Display.

I checked the settings (using the composite cable) just so I could see the display and go through the settings and saw nothing that could help me. I did force the player on NTSC via the menu and 4:3 LBX.

Then I hooked up the components cables again (and they do work and are hooked up correctly to the TV because I hooked up my old JVC DVD player to it and everything displays fine).

Sounds like the component outputs are bad on this Oppo unit?

I hooked up the 970HD to a Sony WEGA via component cables. The picture looked like it was pumping a progressive signal to the TV.

I hooked it up to composite and checked the settings in the menu and did not see a section to switch from/to interlace and/or progressive signal.

I have two other players where I had this problem also. My APEX - I had to go into the settings menu and switch to interlaced signal and on my JVC there is switch in the back that let's me choose between 480i or 480p (all hooked up to the same Sony WEGA throughout the years)

Does the 970HD have something like this? or does it only give a progressive stream through the component outputs? or is it just broken?

Thanks in advance.
Try using the HDMI button to toggle through the available resolutions until you get to 480i. This will need to be done while there is no disc playing (so you are looking at the blue OPPO splash screen).

OK. Yeah, I did cycle using the P/N button and it just display 480P then 576P then it repeats those settings on the OPPO Player Orange Display.

I checked the settings (using the composite cable) just so I could see the display and go through the settings and saw nothing that could help me. I did force the player on NTSC via the menu and 4:3 LBX.

Then I hooked up the components cables again (and they do work and are hooked up correctly to the TV because I hooked up my old JVC DVD player to it and everything displays fine).

Sounds like the component outputs are bad on this Oppo unit?

Are you sure the blue and green are not swapped? Sync is only on one of these and if you mix them up this sort of thing is displayed.

-Rich

Try using the HDMI button to toggle through the available resolutions until you get to 480i. This will need to be done while there is no disc playing (so you are looking at the blue OPPO splash screen).

THAT'S IT! Thanks and everyone else also.

I am sure I did that before but maybe only a few presses. Not intuitive enough for an old fart like me.

I knew I'd get help before Oppo opened up for business today :)

Try using the HDMI button to toggle through the available resolutions until you get to 480i. This will need to be done while there is no disc playing (so you are looking at the blue OPPO splash screen).I only mentioned this twice last night. I think your powers of suggestion are greater than mine...

AXOLOTIS: Do not know IF this will help or not- BUT - have you tried pushing the HDMI button [lower left corner] on the remote......this should tell you on screen, upper left, what resolution it is in and IF you want to change that, STOP, CHANGE, and restart. ;)

When I insert a PAL disc the HDMI output to my Philips Plasma TV shuts off. The S-video output works. NTSC disks work fine through the HDMI. I have the Oppo set to 0 Region Free.

I have a Philips 42PF7220A/37B and the Oppo DV-970.

Is anyone else having this problem? I am wondering if the Philips TV is the problem.

I figured it out. I had the TV type in the Oppo set to Auto. I changed it to NTSC and now it works.

I only mentioned this twice last night. I think your powers of suggestion are greater than mine...

Sorry bro. I guess the force is stronger with him. ;) Thanks for all the help though!

I only mentioned this twice last night. I think your powers of suggestion are greater than mine...
You laid a strong foundation for me, epsilon. ;)

Just out of Curiosity: I was wondering what some of you have your Video Settings at with your 970's connected up via HDMI to RPHDTV's [CRTs]?

After I finally got my DVI to HDMI working correctly - my 46HX83 TOSH went SUPER Bright..........I now have almost or all of the settings like [- 3] to [- 5]. Really had to BACK OFF everything or it was OVER AMPED to me that is.
When one sets these - it only effects watching a DVD - right? NOT TV?

TKS :rolleyes:

Most TVs have independent user settings for each input and they have to be calibrated separately.

Hey all. I tried searching for whether to use RGB or YCbCr 4:4:4 for the color space and couldn't find an answer. I'm using an hdmi-hdmi cable to my panasonic plasma 50u. Which setting would work best? Thanks in advance. :)

HELP!

I hooked up the 970HD to a Sony WEGA via component cables. The picture looked like it was pumping a progressive signal to the TV.

I hooked it up to composite and checked the settings in the menu and did not see a section to switch from/to interlace and/or progressive signal.

I have two other players where I had this problem also. My APEX - I had to go into the settings menu and switch to interlaced signal and on my JVC there is switch in the back that let's me choose between 480i or 480p (all hooked up to the same Sony WEGA throughout the years)

Does the 970HD have something like this? or does it only give a progressive stream through the component outputs? or is it just broken?

Thanks in advance.

You have to have it stopped - not playing the disk and then press the hdmi button to show the resolution and press again to cycle through the available resolutions. I don't see where or how to select outputs but I think it automatically swicthes to HDMI when it is connected.

Hey all. I tried searching for whether to use RGB or YCbCr 4:4:4 for the color space and couldn't find an answer. I'm using an hdmi-hdmi cable to my panasonic plasma 50u. Which setting would work best? Thanks in advance. :)

Probably YCbCr 4:4:4.

Only change it if it looks weird to you.