If you are using the optical and coaxial outputs or HDMI as RAW, this setting will have no effect on your audio.
Thanks Neuromancer. Just to clarify, I thought that the LPCM setting did affect the audio on optical/digital coax, but not on HDMI or analog?

LPCM rate only effects PCM HDMI and PCM optical/coaxial. It does not effect RAW HDMI or RAW optical/coaxial.

Ok - got it. That makes perfect sense. Thanks for this and all the other informative posts.

Guys,

For music listen,what is the correct settings on the audio page of the oppo? I have the onkyo 604 if any want to add their comments on settings.

I am going through via hdmi.

My settings are exactly from page one of this thread:

Speaker Setup Page:
Down-mix: 5.1 CH
Front Speaker: Large
Center Speaker: Large
Rear Speaker: Large
Subwoofer: On
Audio Setup Page:
Digital Output: Raw
HDMI Audio: Auto

Tony you are better off to set your main and center speakers to small rear should be small your subwoofer will take care of the LFE if you do it the way you have set it your subwoofer will give you little or no bass

you are better off to set your main and center speakers to small rear should be small your subwoofer will take care of the LFE if you do it the way you have set it your subwoofer will give you little or no bass
If his audio is going via HDMI, though, one would assume that the receiver is providing the bass management - in which case his settings are preferred as they prevent the player from also providing bass management.

Vshun

See page 31 of the Onkyo manual. 604 will only support 5.1 via HDMI. You need to go coax or optical to get 6.1/7.1. I have the same issue. Supposedly this years line will support 7.1 through HDMI.

So if I want to watch DTS-ES titles (with 6 channels), it is better for me to use coax or optical for audio to Onkyo?

Either will work equally as well for passing a bitstream to the receiver.

jeff

So if I want to watch DTS-ES titles (with 6 channels), it is better for me to use coax or optical for audio to Onkyo?

Either will do fine. I have always used optical, but I think they're basically the same.

i am trying to decide which player to get for my 1080i tv

Philips dvp5960/dvp5982 or Oppo DV-970HD

my main concern is the picture quality of divx/xvid files

anyone here compared these models side by side?

thanks in advance

Either will work equally as well for passing a bitstream to the receiver.

jeff
By "either" you mean either "HDMI or optical", or "either optical or coax but not HDMI)?

you asked about optical or coax, digital. optical or coax should be equivalent.

Has anyone with the Oppo ever listened to Pink Floyd Pulse?

If so, how do you have your Oppo set up?

I am connected through HDMI.
In settings the HDMI setting is grayed out and fixed on LPCM
I have the Pioneer VSX-82TSX , which is showing PCM.

LPCM rate only effects PCM HDMI and PCM optical/coaxial. It does not effect RAW HDMI or RAW optical/coaxial.
So when the HDMI is set to "auto" and the spdif is set to "raw" the LPCM rate is at 48khz.[greyed out] However if I playback the 2 ch 96/24 LPCM track found on many DVD-As, it would still output in 96/24 or it will downsample to 48/24?
[This is is using the SPDIF connection of course]

I bought my first SACD (DSOTM), hooked up the 6 multi channel outputs to my receiver,sat down to enjoy the show and what I got is a very very low sound level. I cranked the volume trim up to max for the multi channel inputs on my receiver (rx-v2700) and turned up the volume up to near max and it is just at about what I would expect if I only had my volume turned up maybe 10%. I cant figure out why the level is so low.

I am connected through HDMI.
In settings the HDMI setting is grayed out and fixed on LPCM
I have the Pioneer VSX-82TSX , which is showing PCM.

Press Eject.
Press Setup.
Now access Audio Preference and change HDMI to Auto. You should not be able to hear the Dolby Digital and DTS tracks.

So when the HDMI is set to "auto" and the spdif is set to "raw" the LPCM rate is at 48khz.[greyed out] However if I playback the 2 ch 96/24 LPCM track found on many DVD-As, it would still output in 96/24 or it will downsample to 48/24?
[This is is using the SPDIF connection of course]

When set to RAW, the OPPO will send the highest quality signal allowed by the source material. In this case, you will send a 16-bit/96Khz 2.0 PCM signal through coaxial and optical outputs.

I bought my first SACD (DSOTM), hooked up the 6 multi channel outputs to my receiver,sat down to enjoy the show and what I got is a very very low sound level. I cranked the volume trim up to max for the multi channel inputs on my receiver (rx-v2700) and turned up the volume up to near max and it is just at about what I would expect if I only had my volume turned up maybe 10%. I cant figure out why the level is so low.

Ensure that you have set the DVD player to a volume of +20 (press the Volume button on the remote control) and that you do not have Dynamic Range Compression (DRC) turned On.

Press Eject.
Press Setup.
Now access Audio Preference and change HDMI to Auto. You should not be able to hear the Dolby Digital and DTS tracks.
Thanks

I don't want to be able to hear DD & DTS tracks?

Is HDMI AUTO the best way to go with a regular concert DVD?

Ensure that you have set the DVD player to a volume of +20 (press the Volume button on the remote control) and that you do not have Dynamic Range Compression (DRC) turned On.


This may sound lame but I didn't know my DVD player had a volume control. Everything else I have played through it has played at the correct level. Thanks.

This may sound lame but I didn't know my DVD player had a volume control. Everything else I have played through it has played at the correct level. Thanks.
The volume control only affects analog output, so the digital outputs would be unaffected by this volume control and would play correctly even if the volume was turned down.

The volume control only affects analog output, so the digital outputs would be unaffected by this volume control and would play correctly even if the volume was turned down.
I think my 970 came with the volume already cranked 'cause I had to turn my Outlaw 950 down -10dB from the usual listening volume that I use for my XA2 and 971.

The volume control only affects analog output, so the digital outputs would be unaffected by this volume control and would play correctly even if the volume was turned down.
This would definetly explain it. I'm hoping you are right.

When set to RAW, the OPPO will send the highest quality signal allowed by the source material. In this case, you will send a 16-bit/96Khz 2.0 PCM signal through coaxial and optical outputs.
thanks, but you must meant 24bit/96khz, because that's what the receiver says when it receives that signal.

I have a direct tv box and a 970 oppo each going into a Denon 2307 CI receiver though one hdmi each then to a panny ax 100u with another HDMI. The TV connection plays audio and video no problem but the DVD player only plays video and no sound. Have messed with the HDMI and replugged in several times. Even switched cables. Is there some setting on the DVD which causes it to not broadcast sound over HDMI or something?
Thanks for the help.

You can enable/disable the sound through HDMI in the menu. Audio setup page under HDMI Audio

Is HDMI AUTO the best way to go with a regular concert DVD?

You will want to set your HDMI priority to Auto, as this will auto negotiate if the DVD player will do the audio decoding or not. For Dolby Digital and DTS sources (concert DVDs), you will want to always have the unit set to Auto.

thanks, but you must meant 24bit/96khz, because that's what the receiver says when it receives that signal.

I've never verified a DVD-Audio disc playback at 24-bit/96Khz with the OPPO products because the digital outputs, according to OPPO, are truncated to 16-bit when the signal has been processed to PCM by the DVD player. My receiver only shows the Khz rating.

Thanks I will look and make sure its on auto when I go home tonight.

Ensure that you have set the DVD player to a volume of +20 (press the Volume button on the remote control) and that you do not have Dynamic Range Compression (DRC) turned On.
Thanks, that was all it was. But do I want to set the volume at max? seems like that could potentially make the signal level higher than optimum for an analog input signal. Anyway I came home and enjoyed my first taste of SACD :D

I've got my volume maxed out - as far as I know, the player doesn't include a pre-amp so all the volume control would do is reduce the original source volume.

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that.

In my case I have the 970 connected to my brand new PDP-4270. I did not notice much difference between 480i and 1080i. Some DVDs (Ronin) looked slightly better in 480i and some (Matrix) slightly better in 1080i. What is a better signal to send in your opinion?

My 970 is sitting here in a box awaiting the arrival of my 4270.
I've read the manuals for both but neither explicitly mention upconverting

I saw the above quote in a prior post. I gather that inputting the 480i signal is at least in theory the best way to go. Is this done by having the 970 set to output 480i over hdmi to the 4270?

Told you, noob question! :)

I've never verified a DVD-Audio disc playback at 24-bit/96Khz with the OPPO products because the digital outputs, according to OPPO, are truncated to 16-bit when the signal has been processed to PCM by the DVD player. My receiver only shows the Khz rating.


According to the (May 07) Stereophile bench test I've referenced already (and now have read) it truncates the digital out wordlengths to 16 bits even if the S/PDIF output is set to 96 or 192 kHz and the source is 24-bit. So simply in terms of numbers, the best you could possibly do from the optical or coax outs, assuming you had a 'hi rez' source that could be played from them as PCM (like the self-burned DVD-A Stereophile used in its test, or one of the relatively rare 2-channel 24/96 audio-DVDs from Classic Records) is 192/16.

No word in the review on what happens at the HDMI output. That would be a good question to put to Oppo.

With regards to the question of 480i or 480p being upconverted by another device vs. using the built in upconversion capabilities of the 970 the definitive answer is...

your mileage may vary.

Try it both ways and see what you like. Personally, I think the 970 does a better job of upconversion than the built in conversation with my sony 2500 bravia. I think the picture is extremely watchable; and while not quite as good as with HD over the 8300HD cable box, is still very nice. It certainly gives me breathing space to watch how the HD DVD and Blueray devices mature. And I think the SACD and DVD-Audio capabilities are quite good...right up there with my Denon 2900.

The 480i output does upconvert nicely via my VP30 video scaler, (but then again, that's what a scaler is suppose to do). I happen to use the RGB output since it simplifies driving my TV and Projector from the VP30.

you are better off to set your main and center speakers to small rear should be small your subwoofer will take care of the LFE if you do it the way you have set it your subwoofer will give you little or no bass

Thanks man.

Tony

Thanks man....
Tony, as Gonk stated before, with a digital signal to your receiver, you are better off letting the receiver do the work rather than adding bass management to the mix from the player. I'd set everything to Large, and then use the receiver's settings as you'd care to. Different case though if you are listening to high-res audio via the 5.1 analog connections.

for those interested and who think 480i HDMI is equal to 480i SDI, I posted a complete comparison of my custom modified 981 via SDI vs the 970 in the scalers forum ;) :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10429220&&#post10429220

I would love to hear from others who have compared ;), there was some semi serious issues on the 970 HDMI output, green and red color issues

-Gary

970 SACD Lock Up
For those of you using the 970 to also play SACDs :mad: , Oppo support has agreed that there is a problem with the player locking up if you turn if off, then on with an SACD in the tray. They unfortunately have no schedule for a fix.

Too bad, since this happens to me at least 50% of the time - requiring an unplug/plug in power cord cycle.

My Sony 775 player occasionally has lockups like that too with SACDs. Normally if I leave it alone for a few minutes it will eject the disc without requiring a hard power off.

This used to effect DVD-Audio discs in the past and was quietly fixed in one of the post launch firmware. Expect the same to occur with this error.

Yeah, there's lots of frustrations about this going on but the last firmware was just in February. They'll fix it eventually.

The great part about Oppo is that they do distribute the firmware upgrades via the internet, and they are easily accomplished. Pioneer makes you take the player to an authorized repair center, and they may charge you to do the upgrade, depending on the age of the player.

Wow, I just got the Oppo 970 and I am really impressed, especially when running the unit at 720p (on Pio 4270). I need to find the beta firmware for the 720p resolution fix, but other than that I am simply amazed. I didn't think I would see that big a difference as compared to my run-of-the-mill Sony 480p player :)

No official fix yet, just the beta is all I have read about. I have my DV970HD disconnected until an official fix for this one is ready. Great player otherwise and my favorite, but that issue started to annoy me.

Chris

Does beta file "MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 4A-0209" contain the fix for the 720p resolution not filling the screen? Or do I need ot e-mail Oppo?

You need to contact OPPO. They do not have the vertical compression fix available for public download.

Ahhhh, thanks for the info.

I've never verified a DVD-Audio disc playback at 24-bit/96Khz with the OPPO products because the digital outputs, according to OPPO, are truncated to 16-bit when the signal has been processed to PCM by the DVD player. My receiver only shows the Khz rating.
Mine says 96/24, but It's just a symbol, not an actual bit rate I'm sure. however the "turncating" would be unfortunate in any case. Quiet frankly bit depth is more important then the sampling frequency.

Does beta file "MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 4A-0209" contain the fix for the 720p resolution not filling the screen? Or do I need ot e-mail Oppo?

Note that the fix disables the USB and card reader, if that matters to you.

Just got my new Oppo-970 last week... by far, PQ & functionality surpass any player I've ever owned... that said... I have to say, in general, I am VERY disappointed with the remote control... I have a $44 Phillips unit which has a remote that is more 'user-friendly'..!!

The most conveniently-located arrow-buttons seem to be USELESS during normal playback..??.. where the up/down arrows on my Phillips [& Sylvania] initiate slow-playback (forward & reverse)...they do nothing on my Oppo...to use 'slow-reverse' playback, it's a 4-separate-button procedure.

Is it just me... or does it seem like most of the most commonly used buttons are the little ones at the BOTTOM of the remote..??.. very hard to push the tiny "OSD, KEYBOARD, & SLOW" buttons without holding the remote at the very bottom, tightly with two fingers..!!.. stupid layout (IMO).:(.!!

Is there any way to "time-out" on-screen display..??... did I miss this option somewhere..??... push "OSD" to see chapter & time... and it stays on the screen, unless you push OSD 4 more times to turn it off..!!...same with the "keyboard" GUI... it just stays there, until it's turned off.!!

Overall, I'm quite pleased with my new Oppo... but I think they need to do some MAJOR re-thinking with the remote.

Note that the fix disables the USB and card reader, if that matters to you.

Would you please provide where you found this bit of information. Thanx

Just got my new Oppo-970 last week... by far, PQ & functionality surpass any player I've ever owned... that said... I have to say, in general, I am VERY disappointed with the remote control... I have a $44 Phillips unit which has a remote that is more 'user-friendly'..!

I think we all feel your pain. The 4A-0209 firmware has a fix to apply remote codes to a universal remote. The best solution is a "learning remote that allows you to assign functions where you want them.

All in all, I guess I'm glad they spent all their research time on picture and sound!

I use an one-for-all 8811 and an 8910 with the oppo with nary an issue. a jp-1 upgrade has already been made for the 970 and the 981.

Best,
jeff

I use an one-for-all 8811 and an 8910 with the oppo with nary an issue. a jp-1 upgrade has already been made for the 970 and the 981.

Best,
jeff

I am using the Radio Shack 15-2104 updated using JP1 to control an Oppo DV970HD, Toshiba HD-A1 and Samsung BD-P1000. The Toshiba remote was worse than the Oppo remote. The inexpensive UEI remotes with JP1 support sure make the most sense for me.

Chris

Overall, I'm quite pleased with my new Oppo... but I think they need to do some MAJOR re-thinking with the remote.

Yeah, the remote is pretty weak...but that has been the case with pretty much all of the video components I have ever bought. :p

My solution has been to usa a one-for all URC-8820 B00 learning remote that I purchased online for ~$10. All of my AV components are programmed into it & I can perform all critical functions without issue. Using the Toshiba codes RC codes provided with latest Oppo beta firmware helped too.

Yeah, the remote is pretty weak...but that has been the case with pretty much all of the video components I have ever bought. :p

My solution has been to usa a one-for all URC-8820 B00 learning remote that I purchased online for ~$10. All of my AV components are programmed into it & I can perform all critical functions without issue. Using the Toshiba codes RC codes provided with latest Oppo beta firmware helped too.

The Harmony 880 is my excalibur! I swear it was in the middle of a lake being held aloft by the arm of some woman...

; )

it seems that there are a lot of complaints coming here and there with our beloved 970. i believe that yes its great to hear 'positive feedback' and we can address these concerns as a whole.

i must also indicate that considering the 970's price and its capabilities, its a fabulous dvd player definitely beating the competition (in its price range and at times above it) out in the bb and/or cc market ...

I can't say enough about the 970. I use it only for watching dvds and the picture is incredible.
The only reason I got the 970 instead of the 981 is the warning about the rainbow effect and that my tv is one of the "older" 1080p DLP RP sets that doesn't accept a 1080p input. (It took me a while to figure out what THAT was all about, but I do understand it now, lol.)
It has made me comfortable while waiting for the HD/BluRay thing to shake out.
As for remotes, see my signature. I use a Pronto TSU7500 with the RFX6500 rf extender and with these, I control my world--sort of. ;-)

Would you please provide where you found this bit of information. Thanx

I installed the underscan fix, my USB and card reader stopped working. After re-installing the latest firmware all functionality was restored.

Help on multi-channel

I have oppo connect to my Denon DHT-487DV using both coax and multi-channel, both sounds great, the only problem is that the subwoofer works OK when I use COAX, but it does not produce any sound when m/c.

Here's my set up:

OPPO: Front speaker: large(also tried small), subwoofer:on

receiver: all speaker small, subwoofer on, crossover 120, also tried 100, no help.

Any idea? Thanks.

Hou

forget to mention: main+

It might be the setup of the receiver. Anyway, I first ask here.

For multichannel analog output, you will need to set all speakers (fronts, center, and surrounds) to small and the sub to on in the 970HD's menus in order to get bass management from the 970HD. The receiver will not provide any bass management for the multichannel analog input, so adjustments there will have no effect.

I did that already. I tried all small, didn't work. And set front to large, also not work. Of course s/w on.

When playing SACD and DVD-A, which will be better
1. output multi channel directly from oppo to receiver
2. output coax to denon dht-487 and let the receiver decode.

I believe the answer should be the first choice, but since I can not make the s/w work, I have to go the second path.

Thanks.

You can't output SACD or (most) DVD-A from coax or optical digital, due to copry protection on those formats. The only digital output for those formats on the Oppo is the HDMI output. The only other output option is analog.

If you aren't getting subwoofer output when playing a mulitchannel mix that has LFE content (or aren't getting it when using bass management), make sure to set the Oppo 'downmix' option to '5.1 channel'.

If you still get no sub output with analog after that, then there's something amiss in your receiver settings.

There's also one other thing to check with the multichannel analog approach: make sure that all six cables are properly connected at each end. A loose sub cable at either end would give you a definite lack of bass.

Is that possible for me connect directly from the s/w output to the line-in of my s/w to see if it is the problem of my receiver? If still no sound, can I say that either my oppo setting is not correct or my oppo itself is malfunctioned?

Hou

Is that possible for me connect directly from the s/w output to the line-in of my s/w to see if it is the problem of my receiver? If still no sound, can I say that either my oppo setting is not correct or my oppo itself is malfunctioned?

Hou
As long as your sub has an internal amp (not passive)you should get a signal.

OK. problem solved. I unplug all cables and plug again. Strang, because I did that yesterday several times already. Anyway, thanks.

Hou

Know what would be great?
Especially because am lazy and not that knowledgable.

Some type of chart to show what settings different people use for the various source material they are watching and listening to.

Even break it down to settings for 5.1, 6.1 & 7.1.

It seems that there are a few of us who have questions as to the best settings to use in a certain situation, with a certain setup.


Just thinking out loud, pay no attention and carry on. :o

Know what would be great?
Especially because am lazy and not that knowledgable.

Some type of chart to show what settings different people use for the various source material they are watching and listening to.

Even break it down to settings for 5.1, 6.1 & 7.1.

It seems that there are a few of us who have questions as to the best settings to use in a certain situation, with a certain setup.


Just thinking out loud, pay no attention and carry on. :o
I've kicked that very topic around elsewhere before - I'll see if I can offer a few thoughts on this over the weekend...

I have noticed a very strange artefact when calibrating my Oppo 970 using the DVE calibration disc.

When looking at the sharpness and overscan images I notice small feathery looking lines running off the top diagonal edges of the circle and off diagonal lines.
It only appears on the upper edge of the lines and not the lower edges.

I have attached two pictures showing this artefact.

It is also noticeable during video playback and I only see it when outputting 720p from the Oppo over HDMI and Component. All other resolutions show a perfectly smooth edge on diagonal lines. I am running a PAL setup.

Interestingly if I convert the signal to NTSC from PAL the artefact disappears!

I have searched high and low to find out what the artefact is but to no avail.

I don't believe it is because of a lack of 2:2 cadence support on the Oppo as it is also visible on still images.

Can anyone help or shed some light?dd

I have noticed a very strange artefact when calibrating my Oppo 970 using the DVE calibration disc.

When looking at the sharpness and overscan images I notice small feathery looking lines running off the top diagonal edges of the circle and off diagonal lines.
It only appears on the upper edge of the lines and not the lower edges.

I have attached two pictures showing this artefact.

It is also noticeable during video playback and I only see it when outputting 720p from the Oppo over HDMI and Component. All other resolutions show a perfectly smooth edge on diagonal lines. I am running a PAL setup.

Interestingly if I convert the signal to NTSC from PAL the artefact disappears!

I have searched high and low to find out what the artefact is but to no avail.

I don't believe it is because of a lack of 2:2 cadence support on the Oppo as it is also visible on still images.

Can anyone help or shed some light?dd

Does it go away if you turn you sharpness down? What type of display do you have?

I use my 970 to watch a lot of Divx and Xvid videos. It works pretty well but when I need to rewind a bit it's like the rewind speed is maxed out. Before I know it it's already rewound almost to the beginning. Fast forward works normally. It makes it very difficult if I just want to back up and hear or see something that just happened again. I end up going way to far and having to FFWD it.
Anyone else notice this? Is there anything I can do to stop it?

I got a question on the audio setup.

I connected HDMI to my panasonic TH-42PX600U plasma. The audio setup is as follows:
Speaker Setup Page:
Down-mix: Stereo
Front Speaker: Large
Subwoofer: Off
Audio Setup Page:
HDMI Audio: LPCM

The problem I got is that the music sounds pretty good, however people's speaking voice is pretty weak. Will it get better if I connect to a home theater system?

I set the downmix to 5.1, and got a very strange sound output through HDMI. I connect OPPO to Sony Bravia 46s2010, I heard no dialog from TV. Seems that center channel is not go through. Is it because of my TV? multi-channel to receiver is fine.

Hou

If I set downmix to 5.1, I don't hear the speaking voice (background music is still there). After I set it to stereo, it becomes normal, but just the speaking voice sounds weak. The connection is through HDMI.


I set the downmix to 5.1, and got a very strange sound output through HDMI. I connect OPPO to Sony Bravia 46s2010, I heard no dialog from TV. Seems that center channel is not go through. Is it because of my TV? multi-channel to receiver is fine.

Hou

I was watching a DVD earlier and the audio dropped in and out a few times very quickly and then dropped out for good. A 'stop', 'stop', 'chap next' a few times got me back to where the audio went out and all was well.

But... when that movie was over I loaded another disk and same problem happened again a little more than half way through the movie, but this time I had to cycle the power to get the audio back. Any ideas?


970 connected to receiver by digital coax and HDMI to HDTV. HDMI audio off in setup.

I set the downmix to 5.1, and got a very strange sound output through HDMI. I connect OPPO to Sony Bravia 46s2010, I heard no dialog from TV. Seems that center channel is not go through. Is it because of my TV? multi-channel to receiver is fine. If I set downmix to 5.1, I don't hear the speaking voice (background music is still there). After I set it to stereo, it becomes normal, but just the speaking voice sounds weak. The connection is through HDMI. Guys, if you set the downmix to 5.1, you are sending 6 channels to the TV. The TV only has two speakers, so it will play left and right... no center, surround or sub. You must set the downmix to STEREO to hear the other channels on a two-speaker system.

Gary

I was watching a DVD earlier and the audio dropped in and out a few times very quickly and then dropped out for good. A 'stop', 'stop', 'chap next' a few times got me back to where the audio went out and all was well.

But... when that movie was over I loaded another disk and same problem happened again a little more than half way through the movie, but this time I had to cycle the power to get the audio back. Any ideas?

970 connected to receiver by digital coax and HDMI to HDTV. HDMI audio off in setup.Have you checked the cable and connections?

970 connected to receiver by digital coax and HDMI to HDTV. HDMI audio off in setup.

What is your receiver manufacturer and model number?

Have you tried using a different Coax cable or an optical cable?

Does it go away if you turn you sharpness down? What type of display do you have?
Hi primetimeguy,

I have turned the sharpness all the way up and down and it does not make a difference.

I have an NEC 42xr4 plasma display.

Guys, Good Morning!

Is there a better way to do this? :confused:

My Oppo is connected via its HDMI out to my Onkyo 674 HDMI input. The Oppo audio is set to stereo, raw, HDMI auto. I want the full audio coming from the Oppo to be channeled into my 5.1 system that is being controlled by the Onkyo.

But, the video, I want it to pass unaltered and untouched by the Onkyo as the Onkyo is connected via HDMI out to my Sony HDMI input.

Now all of this works - but I am trying to determine if there is a better way to set it up via the on screen menus or through a different cable set up to ensure the best results both for audio and video.

Got no helo on the Onkyo 674 thread, so you are my last hope.

Thanks for anything that you come up with.

Lenore

What is your receiver manufacturer and model number?

Have you tried using a different Coax cable or an optical cable?

It's an RCA STAV-3970, and I've been using this setup for a few weeks (daily use) and this is the first problem. I'm hoping it was just a glitch in the OPPO 970 but I will try a different Coax cable, no free optical input to use.

Edit: Haven't got a different cable yet but I did watch two movies today without problem.

Guys,

Thanks for everything so far. All my equipment is up and working, but I have a question about video set up.

I have spent the last two days adjusting my screen and picture displays on my Sony XBR2. I am extremely happy with the picture.
When I look at the Oppo video set up, they have contrast, brightness, hue, and other controls that I have already set using my LCD screen.

Before I start to mess with the settings on the Oppo which is connected via HDMI to my Onkyo 674 and then via HDMI to my Sony.....wouldn't playing with the settings on the Oppo menu "disturb" or mess up the picture that I now get on the LCD?
If so why would I set them? Can I leave them they way they came set at the factory?

I do not want to make trouble for myself and disturb a "good thing."

What has been your experience?

Lenore

Leave the Oppo settings alone as recommended in the Advanced Setup manual.

Guys,

Before I start to mess with the settings on the Oppo which is connected via HDMI to my Onkyo 674 and then via HDMI to my Sony.....wouldn't playing with the settings on the Oppo menu "disturb" or mess up the picture that I now get on the LCD?
If so why would I set them? Can I leave them they way they came set at the factory?


Lenore

My manual says to calibrate the TV using its controls then tweak using the OPPO controls.

BTW, I could only get the DVE contrast pattern to clip using the OPPO contrast setting.

Hey All,

I was wondering what the Default settings for the 970 Video settings? I have been messing with it and it made my picture look worse.

Thanks

Hey All,

I was wondering what the Default settings for the 970 Video settings? I have been messing with it and it made my picture look worse.

Thanks

I know exactly what you mean :o

Which is why I thought http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10465639&&#post10465639 would be a nice idea if someone had the time and mind to do so.

Gonk was nice enough to even consider it.

So the question has been raised (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10465639&&#post10465639) - what surround sound processing modes are good choices for different situations? This is a good question, although there isn't really a single correct answer since some of it will come down to personal preference. The list below includes the modes that are possible, along with some notes on what I do. It's hardly the definitive answer, of course, but it may give you some ideas. If you are curious to know more about all the different surround formats and processing modes that are commonly encountered, you might be interested in the brief descriptions found under the Surround Processing Modes section of my Terms and Technology (http://www.prillaman.net/ht_info_1b-terms.html) page (much of which is repeated on my receivers (http://www.prillaman.net/ht_info_2-receivers.html) page). For the first few cases, it doesn't really matter if you have a 5.1 setup or a 6.1/7.1 setup, but once we get to the 5.1 sources I'm going to look at two cases - a 5.1 speaker setup and a 6.1/7.1 speaker setup.

Any Surround Setup:
Analog or PCM Stereo Source:
- Stereo (no surround processing)
- DTS NEO:6
- Dolby Pro Logic II/IIx
I handle these sources in one of two ways. For audio Sources (CD or media client like SqueezeBox or SoundBridge), I typically leave it in stereo. There are plenty of people, however, who use a matrix mode like Pro Logic II/IIx or DTS NEO:6. For video sources (cable or satellite TV), I use Pro Logic IIx

Dolby Digital 2.0 source:
- Dolby Digital (stereo only)
- Dolby Digital + Pro Logic II/IIx
This situation shows up with both DVD's and cable/satellite TV. I use DD+PLIIx for both situations.

5.1 Channel Speaker Setup:
Dolby Digital 5.1 source:
- Dolby Digital (yields 5.1 channels)

Dolby Digital EX source (flagged):
- Dolby Digital EX (flag forces this mode, yields 5.1 channels)

Dolby Digital EX source (unflagged):
- Dolby Digital

DTS 5.1 source:
- DTS

DTS ES source:
- DTS ES (still yields 5.1 channels)

These all end up being pretty clear-cut: you have six speakers, and the source has six discrete channels. Aside from Dolby EX or DTS ES being forced on by flags in the bitstream, there's nothing much happening here. If you do see those modes engage with certain discs, don't get too worried - both Dolby EX and DTS ES will recognize the absence of a surround back channel and not steer data back there. DTS ES Discrete tracks will also downmix that discrete rear surround channel into the side surrounds.

6.1/7.1 Channel Speaker Setup:
Dolby Digital 5.1 source:
- Dolby Digital (yields 5.1 channels)
- Dolby Digital EX (yields 6.1 channels)
- Dolby Digital + Pro Logic IIx (yields up to 7.1 channels)
I use DD+PLIIx in these cases. Dolby Digital EX works well with tracks made for it, but it can sometimes have problems with other 5.1 tracks (collapsing all surrounds to the rear).

Dolby Digital EX source (flagged):
- Dolby Digital EX (flag forces this mode, yields 6.1 channels)
On a flagged Dolby EX track, your receiver doesn't have any choice - no matter what you've configured on it, EX will be forced to engage by the flag.

Dolby Digital EX source (unflagged):
- Dolby Digital EX
- Dolby Digital + Pro Logic IIx
On an unflagged EX track, the receiver sees just another Dolby Digital track. The matrix cues are there to keep EX from tripping up, but PLIIx is still my preferred approach.

DTS 5.1 source:
- DTS (yields 5.1 channels)
- DTS + NEO:6 (yields 6.1 channels)
- DTS + Pro Logic IIx (yields 7.1 channels, not available with all receivers)
I use DTS+PLIIx, but because support for this arrangement is optional in the Dolby PLIIx spec it isn't supported by all receivers. DTS+NEO:6 used to be called DTS-ES Matrix on older receivers.

DTS ES source:
- DTS ES (yields 6.1 channels)
As with flagged Dolby EX, this is not something that is negotiable - especially with DTS-ES Discrete tracks.

Thank you Gonk :)

Guys, if you set the downmix to 5.1, you are sending 6 channels to the TV. The TV only has two speakers, so it will play left and right... no center, surround or sub. You must set the downmix to STEREO to hear the other channels on a two-speaker system.

Gary

Yeah, I know. The point is, sometimes I want to enjoy the 5.1 sound from receiver, and sometimes I want just leave it shut and get the sound directly from my TV. I don't want to change setting every time when I switch between these two ways. Any idea?

Hou

Yeah, I know. The point is, sometimes I want to enjoy the 5.1 sound from receiver, and sometimes I want just leave it shut and get the sound directly from my TV. I don't want to change setting every time when I switch between these two ways. Any idea?

Hou


Hou,

I have mine routed both from the Plasma (optical out) to the AVR and from the Oppo to both the Plasma (HDMI) and to the AVR (Toslink optical).

This works for me as I can control the output from the AVR to the surround speakers (5.1) or select the stereo mode only using my front L/R towers speakers.

Hope that this helps.
..Mark

Yeah, I know. The point is, sometimes I want to enjoy the 5.1 sound from receiver, and sometimes I want just leave it shut and get the sound directly from my TV. I don't want to change setting every time when I switch between these two ways. Any idea?

Hou

HDMI direct to TV and coax and analog to receiver. :rolleyes:

Upconversion -- What should I look for?

I know that this duplicate posting in this thread will earn me rebuke, flame, etc., but still no answer on original post at the other thread, so....


So, what exactly should I notice different in PQ between 480p and 1080i over component?

Are there particular types of movies (action, fast movement, etc.) or scenes (dark, light, other) that will reflect greater clarity, color, sharpness, or some other discernible difference?

Hey All,

I was wondering what the Default settings for the 970 Video settings? I have been messing with it and it made my picture look worse.

Thanks


So does anyone have the default video settings for this player? Please post.

Thanks

see page 33 of the user's manual -- it tells you how to reset the player to factory default.

HDMI direct to TV and coax and analog to receiver. :rolleyes:

exactly, I have multichannel connecting to receiver. As I know I must set downmix to 5.1 to get 6 channels out from multichannel, right? Then I still have the problem that my TV can not handle 6 channels, so the dialog would be lost if I do not turn on receiver.

Hou

Hou,

I have mine routed both from the Plasma (optical out) to the AVR and from the Oppo to both the Plasma (HDMI) and to the AVR (Toslink optical).

..Mark

Mark, thanks.
But I think multichannel is the only way to get 5.1 channels of SACD and DVD-A, coax or optical is not capable of that. Or, the latest receivers can handle HDMI audio directly which I do not have.

Hou

Mark, thanks.
But I think multichannel is the only way to get 5.1 channels of SACD and DVD-A, coax or optical is not capable of that. Or, the latest receivers can handle HDMI audio directly which I do not have.

Hou


Hou,
Maybe I misunderstood, as when I play music as non-stereo/multichannel (depending on the piece) it still sounds decent on my system. However in those cases, it comes loudest from the center channel speaker. And then I prefer the 2 channel mode.

Thanks for clarifying. Sorry if I misled you.
..Mark

exactly, I have multichannel connecting to receiver. As I know I must set downmix to 5.1 to get 6 channels out from multichannel, right? Then I still have the problem that my TV can not handle 6 channels, so the dialog would be lost if I do not turn on receiver.

Hou

With HDMI, the basic digital signal is sent to the TV and converted/decoded into 2 channel stereo for the TV speakers.

hello all,

i'm fairly new, i have tried searching this question (nothing jumped out), but did not read all 170 pages... any feedback will be appreciated.

we all know that manufacturers continually update firmware/software as well as the hardware in the box. from what little i know, the current (now coming off the assembly line) hardware manufacture version of the DV-970HD is spouse to be Version 2.8. does anyone know what the actual difference is between a Ver2.5 and Ver2.8? or, point me to a link.

thank you.

The only difference that I am aware of is that the V2.6+ units have a modified HDMI output which includes a more robust resistor package which resolves HDCP handshake issues with some displays and receivers. Overall, though, this change is only important if you are having handshake errors.

With HDMI, the basic digital signal is sent to the TV and converted/decoded into 2 channel stereo for the TV speakers.


Are you so sure? Or is that the feature of your TV? Since when I set to downmix to 5.1, I can not hear the dialog from TV. I think it is because the TV just ignores the center channel the OPPO sending out. Apparently, my sony bravia 46s2010 can not mix the multichannels.

Another question, if my TV can not handle multichannel, during HDMI handshake, should it tell it to OPPO and OPPO would automatically mix 6 channels to stereo?

Hou

Most HDTV's do not have the ability to accept a Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 signal, decode it, and downmix it to two-channel. Even the downmix capability alone is often missing, such that when given a multichannel PCM signal via HDMI they take the left and right channels and abandon the rest - thus your case of not hearing any dialog when downmix is set to 5.1. The HDCP handshake process required with HDMI (and some DVI) connections does not consider this at all - it is purely for copy protection purposes, and does not exchange such information. The OPPO relies on the settings in its menus and nothing else.

had this player for about two months great player, dvd looks good, at first i thought that component looked better than hdmi i even used pip to check, then i bought new cobles from monoprice with the netjacket and now hdmi looks better. Now i am even more satisfied with the oppo. Oppo and Mono make a good Pairing

Most HDTV's do not have the ability to accept a Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 signal, decode it, and downmix it to two-channel. Even the downmix capability alone is often missing, such that when given a multichannel PCM signal via HDMI they take the left and right channels and abandon the rest - thus your case of not hearing any dialog when downmix is set to 5.1. The HDCP handshake process required with HDMI (and some DVI) connections does not consider this at all - it is purely for copy protection purposes, and does not exchange such information. The OPPO relies on the settings in its menus and nothing else.

Does that mean the Oppo sends a processed signal through the HDMI, or is it pure and straight from the disc?

Does that mean the Oppo sends a processed signal through the HDMI, or is it pure and straight from the disc?
It depends. (How's that for a worthless answer... ;))

If you have the HDMI Audio set to "Auto" it will pass an unprocessed bitstream of whatever is on the disc (PCM stereo, Dolby Digital, or DTS). If you select "LPCM" it will decode the bitstream internally to multichannel PCM (assuming it's a multichannel source) and do whatever other processing (downmixing, Pro Logic II, bass management, etc) the player is configured to do for the multichannel analog output. It will then output that processed multichannel PCM signal via HDMI to whatever is downstream (receiver or TV).

Alright, time for a quick question. I searched the thread before I posted this, but there were many posts to root through. I recently sent for and received the underscan patch from Oppo and attempted to burn it to a CD like the other firmware updates, but it didn't load and gave me an "unable to read disc" message. Is there something I'm missing? Does this firmware have to be burned to a DVD?

How do I get that underscan fix? I couldn't find it on Oppo's website.

How do I get that underscan fix? I couldn't find it on Oppo's website.

Email their support address and ask for it. I got mine within 15 minutes of emailing them. Oh, and ask them in the email if there's any special instructions for burning the firmware.

EDIT: from what I've heard, this firmware disables the USB port, so know that before you install it.

Most HDTV's do not have the ability to accept a Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 signal, decode it, and downmix it to two-channel. Even the downmix capability alone is often missing, such that when given a multichannel PCM signal via HDMI they take the left and right channels and abandon the rest - thus your case of not hearing any dialog when downmix is set to 5.1. The HDCP handshake process required with HDMI (and some DVI) connections does not consider this at all - it is purely for copy protection purposes, and does not exchange such information. The OPPO relies on the settings in its menus and nothing else.


Thanks for the information. I thought the handshake also exchange capabilty data such as the highest resolution the TV supports, as well as the audio format.

So the problem is still not solved. For anyone using 5.1 multichannel to receiver, how you config so when you only want sound from TV, you can also get clear dialog of the center channel?


Hou

ProjectorPeople.com are giving away the OPPDV970HD with the purchase of a Projector. Can someone break it down when comparing this DVD player with Denon 1930CI.

GAH! Nevermind about my question, I saved the firmware as a data file, not an image file. That's why the Oppo couldn't read the disc...finals are murdering my brain.

Does anyone know how the OPPO DV-970HD player looks on a Infocus screenplay 4800?? I have lloked for info but I can't seem to find it.

Thanks

So the problem is still not solved. For anyone using 5.1 multichannel to receiver, how you config so when you only want sound from TV, you can also get clear dialog of the center channel?


You will have to manually change between 5.1 and Stereo for multi-channel analog (receiver) and HDMI (television) use. There is no way to program the OPPO to switch between these modes automatically.

Thanks for the information. I thought the handshake also exchange capabilty data such as the highest resolution the TV supports, as well as the audio format.

So the problem is still not solved. For anyone using 5.1 multichannel to receiver, how you config so when you only want sound from TV, you can also get clear dialog of the center channel?

Hou
The handshake is purely copy protection - all it does is give the player permission to output video over the HDMI connection.

There isn't a problem here that can be solved by OPPO. Part of this goes back to a bit of advise that I often offer to people just setting up a surround system: it may seem like it's easier to be able to sometimes watch TV while just using the TV's speakers rather than firing up the surround receiver, but it invariably ends up being significantly more complicated. In this case, the only way to get two-channel audio across the HDMI connection is to also restrict the multichannel analog output (required for DVD-A and SACD to a receiver that lacks at least HDMI v1.1) to two channels. If HDTV's included the ability to downmix multichannel PCM, this problem would disappear.

If you don't use DVD-Audio or SACD discs, you can make this work by setting the downmix to stereo, setting the digital output to RAW, and using the coaxial or optical digital output to feed your receiver. The undecoded DD and DTS bitstreams will go to the receiver while the player also decodes those signals and downmixes them for delivery to the TV. This only works if you don't use the multichannel analog output, though, and I assume that you are using it.

ProjectorPeople.com are giving away the OPPDV970HD with the purchase of a Projector. Can someone break it down when comparing this DVD player with Denon 1930CI.

I own the DVD-1920 and the Oppo DV970HD and have never used the DVD-1930CI. I find the two players I own very comparable for region 1 DVD-V and CD/DVD-A/SACD. The key difference is the Oppo uses the all-in-one Mediatek chip and the DVD-1920/1930 uses the Faroudja FLI-23xx for scaling. Audio and video performance of the two is very comparable after using DVE to adjust my 720p LCD projector separately for each player. Since the Oppo DV970HD does more for less money, and appears to be better built in my opinion, I would certainly always recommend it compared to the two modest Denon universal players. The DVD-1930CI seems to be lower rated in terms of DVD-V performance than the DVD-1920 based on their two respective threads here.

Of course only time will tell if the Oppo player really is better built, both are problem free so far. I don't know if the Denon player does DSD>PCM like the Oppo players, before converting to analog but a straight DSD>analog process is preferred. I am not sure I can tell any difference but someone more technically inclined could probably explain the reason for the preference. The more expensive Denon players do DSD>analog or pure DSD over HDMI. Of course if you don't care about SACD, none of that matters.

Chris

I turned my 970 on last night just to do an excercise DVD, and the colors were so off, plus and really the much more important thing, there were at least 15 squiggle diagonal lines shooting across the screen. :eek:

I did some reboots, and tried several different DVD's, which didn't matter because the lines were there as soon as I turned the until on.

I played with some menus, checked the connections-no change.

I have had the unit less than 30 days, so I don't think an exchange will be a problem, but was wondering if anyone else had a similar experience?

It is a Ver2.6 if that makes a difference.

I did some reboots, and tried several different DVD's
The only time I had any issues were with color changes that looked bad...it was just a matter of securing the input. unplug and reconnect the HDMI or component connections (whichever you are using)..might be something that simple...OOps, I see you checked the connections, unplug and plug them in again if you did not do that though.....

I completely changed the components and no change.

I will try HDMI when I get home.

Any possibility that a Comcast Motorola DVR could cause interference?

I obtained one while my Tivo S3 is out for repair/exchange.

Just a thought.

I completely changed the components and no change.

I will try HDMI when I get home.

Any possibility that a Comcast Motorola DVR could cause interference?

I obtained one while my Tivo S3 is out for repair/exchange.

Just a thought.

Well, assuming that you have checked everything else, there are only 2 possibilities. Either the Oppo has gone bad or the DVR is screwing things up. So why not try to disconnect the cable box and see what happens?
If the Oppo is not rotten, then the culprit is "what has changed" since the last time the Oppo worked well. What ever has "changed" is what is causing the problem.

Well, assuming that you have checked everything else, there are only 2 possibilities. Either the Oppo has gone bad or the DVR is screwing things up. So why not try to disconnect the cable box and see what happens?
If the Oppo is not rotten, then the culprit is "what has changed" since the last time the Oppo worked well. What ever has "changed" is what is causing the problem.
Will do.

Actually I did unplug the DVR, with no change. But I did not disconnect all the connections and physically move the DVR.

Actually Comcast is coming today between 5-7 to switch out the box, since they gave me a faulty, not 100% compatable box to begin with. :rolleyes:

The handshake is purely copy protection - all it does is give the player permission to output video over the HDMI connection.

There isn't a problem here that can be solved by OPPO. Part of this goes back to a bit of advise that I often offer to people just setting up a surround system: it may seem like it's easier to be able to sometimes watch TV while just using the TV's speakers rather than firing up the surround receiver, but it invariably ends up being significantly more complicated. In this case, the only way to get two-channel audio across the HDMI connection is to also restrict the multichannel analog output (required for DVD-A and SACD to a receiver that lacks at least HDMI v1.1) to two channels. If HDTV's included the ability to downmix multichannel PCM, this problem would disappear.

If you don't use DVD-Audio or SACD discs, you can make this work by setting the downmix to stereo, setting the digital output to RAW, and using the coaxial or optical digital output to feed your receiver. The undecoded DD and DTS bitstreams will go to the receiver while the player also decodes those signals and downmixes them for delivery to the TV. This only works if you don't use the multichannel analog output, though, and I assume that you are using it.

Thanks. Yes, I am using multichannel, and I have also coax connected to my receiver. I think I would have the following settings.

Non SACD/DVD-A
1. oppo downmix to stereo. (most of the time, default)
2. receiver using COAX
So I can choose TV speaker or receiver

SACD/DVD-A
1. change downmix to m/c (since I do not listen to them often)
2. listen music use receiver through m/c

I do not have too much sacd and dvd-a, so I can live with the changing of setting. :-)

Hou

I hope someone can help me setting up my 970 correctly. I use the 970 exclusively for listening to SACD's and DVD-A's. I use the Analog 5.1 connections to my Denon 1604 (6.1 Channel Receiver). I have two Definitive Tech speakers BP6 for my left and right, a Mirage Center channel, Boston Accoustic satellite speakers for my 3 rears (Left, Right, Center). Now, here is the "odd thing" in my speaker system. I have an older powered subwoofer hooked up that does not accept the dedicated sub-woofer out from my receiver. Therefore, I have to run the Left and Right front channels via the speaker hookup of the subwoofer. So, the subwoofer and the front and left front speakers are getting the full frequency sent to them.

Here are my questions:

With the analog outputs going to my receiver, and nothing hookup up to the sub-out, am I missing the low frequencies? It doesn't seem like it, but I thought I'd ask.

What would the optimum speaker settings be for the 970? Right now, I've got it set to Large fronts, small backs, and NO subwoofer.

Am I missing out on anything by not having a subwoofer that accepts the dedicated sub-out? If so, can anyone recommend a decent subwoofer that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? I don't want anything that'll shake my house apart, just something that will allow me to hear the full bass when I want to.

As an aside... I haven't had this problem with other SACD's, but I had just bought a new SACD (for me) of "Cheap Thrills" by Big Brother and the Holding Company (Janis Joplin). It sounded like all of the bass was coming from the center channel!!! I thought it was going to rip the speaker to shreds. Is this SACD an anomoly, or do other SACD's send so much bass to the center?

Your current approach is just what I would have suggested. I'd make sure the center speaker is set to small just like the surrounds are, but otherwise you're on the right track. If it's not set to small, that might explain the behavior of your new SACD.

As long as you are able to blend the LFE track into some other channel so that it gets to the sub somehow, there's nothing essential about having a line-level subwoofer input on the sub. There are some good inexpensive subs available from internet-direct manufacturers like HSU Research, Outlaw Audio, AV123, and SVS. The AV123 X-Sub uses an 8" driver and sells for $200. Outlaw's LFM-2 (also using an 8" driver) sells for $300 and their LFM-1 Plus (http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1plus.html) is on sale at the moment for $500 ($180 less than the usual price). HSU Research and SVS both offer large selections that cover a pretty wide price range. The subwoofer forum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=113) could probably give you a dozen more ideas in this regard.

I hope someone can help me setting up my 970 correctly. I use the 970 exclusively for listening to SACD's and DVD-A's. I use the Analog 5.1 connections to my Denon 1604 (6.1 Channel Receiver). I have two Definitive Tech speakers BP6 for my left and right, a Mirage Center channel, Boston Accoustic satellite speakers for my 3 rears (Left, Right, Center). Now, here is the "odd thing" in my speaker system. I have an older powered subwoofer hooked up that does not accept the dedicated sub-woofer out from my receiver. Therefore, I have to run the Left and Right front channels via the speaker hookup of the subwoofer. So, the subwoofer and the front and left front speakers are getting the full frequency sent to them.

Here are my questions:

With the analog outputs going to my receiver, and nothing hookup up to the sub-out, am I missing the low frequencies? It doesn't seem like it, but I thought I'd ask.

What would the optimum speaker settings be for the 970? Right now, I've got it set to Large fronts, small backs, and NO subwoofer.

Am I missing out on anything by not having a subwoofer that accepts the dedicated sub-out? If so, can anyone recommend a decent subwoofer that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? I don't want anything that'll shake my house apart, just something that will allow me to hear the full bass when I want to.

As an aside... I haven't had this problem with other SACD's, but I had just bought a new SACD (for me) of "Cheap Thrills" by Big Brother and the Holding Company (Janis Joplin). It sounded like all of the bass was coming from the center channel!!! I thought it was going to rip the speaker to shreds. Is this SACD an anomoly, or do other SACD's send so much bass to the center?


It is possible (as you have discovered) for center/surround channels to be full-frequency, on SACDs and DVD-As. Soemtimes that's a choice, sometimes it's dubious mixing practice. Either way, if your setup cannot redirect Ctr/Surround bass to the FL/FR channels, it is possible to 'missing' some of the mix on some discs if center/surrounds are set to small and sub is set to OFF, because the redirected bass has nowhere to go. The setup of course must also be able to redirect the LFE (.1) part of the surround mix to large speakers, if sub output is set to OFF.

I've never checked to see if the Oppo actually does this sort of bass redirection ('small' channel bass + LFE go to 'large' channels, rather than directly to sub) correctly. If it does, then you should definitely set your center to small, and leave the front L/R large and subwoofer OFF. That way the bass from all channels will be combined in your front L/R output, the sub will extract the bass, then pass on the front mid/treble to your Def Techs. Center and surrounds will their own appropriate mid/treble since they are set to small in the player.

There are many more subwoofer choices out there now than there probably were when you bought your current sub. You may be able to find something to match the performance of your current sub at a decent price point, with more modern connectivity, if you ask on sub forums or peruse the 'buyer's guides' that the major audio magazines put out yearly.

Thanks, Gonk and Krabapple. I'll double check on that center channel, and be checking out the sub forum. It's great to get these second opinions.

The Oppo is a great player, and may give more people a reason to look into SACD's and DVD-A's.

You should be able to browse to those sub-folders and see the files inside.

It does work if I use the little 32MB USB pen drive I have. Now I need to find out why it doesn't work the same way when I use the external IDE hard drive USB box. Both are formatted FAT and both are USB 2.0, but both are able to interface with USB 1.1 ports.

It's a mystery.

I have the same problem with the USB pport not connecting to my Archos portable DVR (which is a USB Mass Storage Device).

I got a 970 yesterday, and I noticed while watching divx, there is a delay in the sound. Does anybody else experience this A/V synch issue, and is there some way around it? On my laptop, the same movie has no problem.

I got a 970 yesterday, and I noticed while watching divx, there is a delay in the sound. Does anybody else experience this A/V synch issue, and is there some way around it? On my laptop, the same movie has no problem.

The larger the file, the higher the buffering. This will cause A/V Synchronization errors. There is no way to fix this on the USB interface due to errors associated with a poor chipset used for the memory buffer. This is a known limitation of the DV-970HD USB/Card Reader interface.

The larger the file, the higher the buffering. This will cause A/V Synchronization errors. There is no way to fix this on the USB interface due to errors associated with a poor chipset used for the memory buffer. This is a known limitation of the DV-970HD USB/Card Reader interface.

Thanks for the reply. However, the divx file was on a DVD (among with other files), so it was not the limitation of the usb1.1
Do your divx files play as good as on your computer?

The larger the file, the higher the buffering. This will cause A/V Synchronization errors. There is no way to fix this on the USB interface due to errors associated with a poor chipset used for the memory buffer. This is a known limitation of the DV-970HD USB/Card Reader interface.


Well, I wish that it was a limitation that I knew about before I went out and spent $149 on the thing. Serves me right. :o

A/V Synchronization errors do not always occur, but it is a higher possibility with a larger file size. The "fix" is to burn these files on DVD media, as there is no buffering errors.

Thanks for the reply. However, the divx file was on a DVD (among with other files), so it was not the limitation of the usb1.1
Do your divx files play as good as on your computer?

Try adjusting the Delay settings on the DVD unit, as your DVD player is now decoding the audio from the source.

Sorry, I've searched through but couldn't find a clear answer.

If I apply the firmware hack that "allows upconversion through component and removes hdcp" will this allow the use of the digital audio output for sacd or dvd-audio? So another way, does the hack really remove hdcp and enable the optical/digital audio output for the hi-def audio?

Thanks!

If I apply the firmware hack that "allows upconversion through component and removes hdcp" will this allow the use of the digital audio output for sacd or dvd-audio? So another way, does the hack really remove hdcp and enable the optical/digital audio output for the hi-def audio?
Sorry, there is no firmware hack possible to allow digital output of SACD and DVD-Audio over coaxial/optical.

Sorry, there is no firmware hack possible to allow digital output of SACD and DVD-Audio over coaxial/optical.

I am a new owner of the 970 and today I hooked up the 5.1 analog outputs to my Pioneer receiver. I then played a DVD A disc and it sounded really good, nice separation of the different channels, and enveloping sound overall. I then switched to the DVD coax output of the Pioneer fed from the Oppo and still had 5 channel surround sound. I am a long time 2 channel audio nut and I am a little confused as to what the Oppo was sending to the Pioneer that still gave me 5 channel surround? Can you clarify this for me? I had the DVD (Santana Supernatural) and in it's was set to DVD surround. I must be missing something here.

Factory default for the 970 is to give precedence to the DVD-Video folder of a DVD-A. Surround music in the DVD-V portion is (usually) Dolby Digital or DTS encoded, and thus can be passed as bitstream via the optical/coax digital. Surround DVD-Audio cannot. To change the precedence so that the player will automatcally access the real DVD-Audio folder, you have to reset that to DVD-Audio in the user menu.

The user manual(s) are your friend.

Factory default for the 970 is to give precedence to the DVD-Video folder of a DVD-A. Surround music in the DVD-V portion is (usually) Dolby Digital or DTS encoded, and thus can be passed as bitstream via the optical/coax digital. Surround DVD-Audio cannot. To change the precedence so that the player will automatcally access the real DVD-Audio folder, you have to reset that to DVD-Audio in the user menu.

The user manual(s) are your friend.

Thanks krabapple. I thought I had set the Oppo to DVD Audio in the menu so I will have to check this out. Is there likely to be a big difference in sound quality between DVD Video soundtrack using DD through coax digital and the true DVD Surround from analog 5 channel? I am new to this surround sound stuff. Thanks.

Sorry, there is no firmware hack possible to allow digital output of SACD and DVD-Audio over coaxial/optical.

Thanks. So the only way to transmit a digital signal from a SACD or DVD-A on my 970 is if my receiver has an HDCP HDMI port it seems. Guess that's not a problem. The receiver's been needing an upgrade anyways, I suppose.

I am a new owner of the 970 and today I hooked up the 5.1 analog outputs to my Pioneer receiver. I then played a DVD A disc and it sounded really good, nice separation of the different channels, and enveloping sound overall. I then switched to the DVD coax output of the Pioneer fed from the Oppo and still had 5 channel surround sound. I am a long time 2 channel audio nut and I am a little confused as to what the Oppo was sending to the Pioneer that still gave me 5 channel surround? Can you clarify this for me? I had the DVD (Santana Supernatural) and in it's was set to DVD surround. I must be missing something here.
There are two possibilities. You could have been playing a Dolby Digital or DTS track (not the MLP track that requires multichannel analog output) the whole time. The more likely scenario is that you were playing the MLP track of the DVD-Audio disc and when you switched to coaxial the Pioneer took the Dolby Digital 2.0 track and applied Pro Logic II or some other processing to create five-channel surround.

When playing DVD-Audio discs, DVD-A players create a downmixed stereo signal to output via coaxial and optical outputs. The MLP lossless bitstream can't be carried via SPDIF (not enough bandwidth), so receivers can't decode the bitstream (no reason to include the decoding when you can't feed it a bitstream to decode) and a decoded 5.1 PCM signal would also be too much data for SPDIF.

When playing SACD's, the coaxial and optical outputs are completely inactive.

I am a new owner of the 970 and today I hooked up the 5.1 analog outputs to my Pioneer receiver. I then played a DVD A disc and it sounded really good, nice separation of the different channels, and enveloping sound overall. I then switched to the DVD coax output of the Pioneer fed from the Oppo and still had 5 channel surround sound. I am a long time 2 channel audio nut and I am a little confused as to what the Oppo was sending to the Pioneer that still gave me 5 channel surround? Can you clarify this for me? I had the DVD (Santana Supernatural) and in it's was set to DVD surround. I must be missing something here. if you are getting a output from your opitical you are geting 2 channel stereo and your receiver is converting it to dolby pro logic some sacd have 2 channel stereo plus 5.1 stereo as regard to dvd a you are getting pro logic from the optical out and 5.1 from your analog out on the OPPO

I installed the Oppo underscan patch the other day and, while it eliminated the vertical squeeze, the player was constantly trying to load DVDs whenever one wasn't in the tray (it wouldn't recognize that there was no disc). This went away when I reloaded the last official firmware update. Is this a known glitch with this fix?

It's a glitch, when I had the patch installed I didn't think it was actually trying to load? Just said it was. Did you try the card reader or USB port while you had the patch installed?

It's a glitch, when I had the patch installed I didn't think it was actually trying to load? Just said it was. Did you try the card reader or USB port while you had the patch installed?

Nope, didn't try the USB or card reader. However, if everyone here says those ports get disabled with the fix then I'm guessing mine were disabled too. So the loading thing is normal, huh? I guess I'll reinstall the patch and just live with it.

The SD slot is not meant to be used for video according to Oppo.

Works just fine for me. I played several videos through it.

Billl

I installed the Oppo underscan patch the other day and, while it eliminated the vertical squeeze, the player was constantly trying to load DVDs whenever one wasn't in the tray (it wouldn't recognize that there was no disc). This went away when I reloaded the last official firmware update. Is this a known glitch with this fix?
I installed the same patch. Haven't had any problems.
J

I installed the same patch. Haven't had any problems.
J

When your at the blue OPPO screen doesn't it say "loading..." even when the tray is empty? How about the LCD? Your USB and card reader are working?

I had the same experience...except I was all set to watch some avi files thru a flash drive...in retrospect I don't know what I was thinking. All the same, it'll be nice to watch small avi files burned to cd...without having to create a video dvd in toast.

I'm wondering though...is this the sort of thing that could be possible after future firmware upgrades?

A large SD card works just fine for movie play back. I used a 2 gig sandisk standard speed card and it played almost anything I thru at it.


Billl

After reading thousands of posts in the Receiver, Speaker, and Oppo forums...I realize how confusing this world of A/V has really become! It is more clear than ever why the majority of folks find the world of HTIB so attractive.

I'm sort of in the middle....but am beginning to wonder if all the research is really worth it.

Here is my situation:

Just in process of configuring my new Oppo 970. Hopefully, will be done tonight.


1. Cable box - component connection to Panasonic TH42PX60OU
2. Cable box - audio out to Onkyo 304 receiver

3. Oppo connected HDMI - Panasonic TH42PX60OU
4. Oppo - connected digital coax-Onkyo 304 receiver

5. Orb audio front speakers and sub-woofer connected to Onkyo 304

So....I am just attempting to run a 2.1 configuration. Reciever is just handling audio, and not video.


I am a little confused as to whether I need addtional analog cables from the Oppo to the receiver. It seems I read somewhere here that if not using surround speakers, the coax digital is not used.

Also....I hope to use a Logitech universal remote. Is there a remote code for the Oppo 970 that any of you have successfully used with a Logitech?

My goals are:

a. have a simple to use system to play DVD movies
b. utilize the Oppo as a CD player with resonable stereo sound
c. get the best quality video possible with this equipment configuration
d. get the universal remote configured to make this setup "almost foolproof" for my wife (who has little patience for any of this stuff!)

Any comments you may have regarding this configuration, the connections described, or the questions I pose would be appreciated, and no doubt helpful.

Oppo 970 codes are in the Logitech database so that isn't a problem.
Set the Oppo for PCM out vs raw and you'll get stereo to your receiver via toslink connection(optical or coax). You should be able set up your receiver for good 2 Ch plus the sub w/o using the analog cables.

The only reason to connect analog cables from the 970HD to your receiver would be to listen to DVD-Audio or SACD discs. It doesn't sound like you have either (neither format fared real well in the marketplace due to their little format war), so the coaxial digital connection is the recommended approach. You'll need to set your receiver up to use only the speakers that you have connected, but I suspect that is already done.

The Logitech remote would be a Harmony, and Harmony remotes support both learning and programming on the computer - as such, you should be able to download a working OPPO 970HD config and get going pretty quickly Logitech/Harmony has a very well-regarded customer service department if you hit any snags along the way, and there are a number of Harmony remote owners floating around the various Internet forums who could also chime in.

Set the Oppo for PCM out vs raw and you'll get stereo to your receiver via toslink connection(optical or coax). You should be able set up your receiver for good 2 Ch plus the sub w/o using the analog cables.
I'd probably still leave the OPPO's digital output set to "raw" (the default setting, I believe) - the receiver can decode Dolby Digital and DTS tracks and downmix them to stereo just as easily as the OPPO can, and if he adds speakers later it's one less setting to have to go back to.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I would still connect the Oppo to the receiver with a digital coax or toslink cable. That way you can still elect to send the Dolby Digital to the receiver, and allow it to convert it to 2.1, keeping the low frequency effects booming during movies. You can elect to send the receiver a stereo signal also.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I would still connect the Oppo to the receiver with a digital coax or toslink cable. That way you can still elect to send the Dolby Digital to the receiver, and allow it to convert it to 2.1, keeping the low frequency effects booming during movies. You can elect to send the receiver a stereo signal also.

That sounds better than what I suggested. Let the oppo output raw instead of PCM.
Your receiver can processs the DD 5.1 and mix it to your speaker setup.

A large SD card works just fine for movie play back. I used a 2 gig sandisk standard speed card and it played almost anything I thru at it.


Billl
Tech support at Oppo told me that a SD card is not suitable for video.

Thanks Moxie and Gonk!!

I got it all setup tonight. I have the Logitech harmony 550, and now have everything working fine.

Sounds great... and I just tested a DVD of Jurassic Park and it looked really sharp, and with great sound.

Again...thanks for your help.

:) - Glad to hear that it's up and running and all is well.

Tech support at Oppo told me that a SD card is not suitable for video.

I don't know what to tell you? I have used it and it worked just fine for me. I played several different encoding formats. I was actually suprised at how well it worked. I wasn't expecting much. I'd say try it yourself.


Billl

OPPO tech does not have much faith in the USB/Card Reader interface because of audio/synchronization errors as well as choppy playback. I personally could not use the USB/Card Reader interface with the DV-970HD and my anime encodes. It was just too choppy.

My settings have evolved over the last couple months. I am using both DVE and GetGray DVD's. The hardest part for me is color detail and color management. I borrowed the color management settings directly off D-nice's Denon 3910 settings.Some of the other settings I found were common to each DVD player there are settings for. The rest is with the DVD's mentioned above. If others who have attempted to adjust there pioneer to the 970 would care to share the settings that would be great. Here are my current results:

Contrast: 45
Brightness: +2
Color: +5
Tint: 2
Sharpness: -4

Pro Adjust
Pure Cinema: ADV

Color Detail:
Color Temp: Manual
R High: +2
G High: -2
B High: -2
R Low: 0
G Low: -2
B Low: +3

CTI: Off

Color Space: 2

Intelligent Color: Off

Color Management: Taken from the D-nice denon 3910 settings. I just had nothing else to go by.
R: 7
Y: 0
G: -6
C: -9
B: -2
M: +3

NR:
DNR: Off
MPEG NR: off
BNR: On

DRE:
Dynamic Contrast: High
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Gamma: 2
Intelligent DRE: On

I tried watching a video from a USB flash drive and it was WAY too choppy. After reading the recent postings I decided to try an SD card. I copied the latest Diggnation vidcast, in Xvid format, onto a 1GB SD card and it seems to play just fine. I have only watched the first couple of minutes but it hasn't hiccuped a single time.

I emailed Oppo today and they said the largest card they have tried is a 4 gig SD. Has anyone tried anything larger, like a 8 gig? If someone has a 8 gig SD card would you try it in the Oppo? I'd hate to buy one and find out it doesn't work. My camera only uses up to 2 gigs so that's the largest ones I have.

I'm thinking 4 gig is going to be pretty tight to put a full length movie on even with compression? I did one as an ISO and it was like 6-8 gigs. I haven't ripped a lot od DVD's, does anyone know here what I can expect for a file size for a 2 hr movie encoded in divx?

Thanks,

Billl

billh, if you rip the movie only (not the extras) at the theater quality (i.e. best) divx settings, a 2 hr movie should run you under 2 gigs of space.

billh, if you rip the movie only (not the extras) at the theater quality (i.e. best) divx settings, a 2 hr movie should run you under 2 gigs of space.

So then the 4 gig would be over kill. Of course for the really long stuff like LOTR then the 4 gig might just come in handy.

Thanks for the info,

Billl

Just a question for my own knowledge, but why would you rather download one movie to an SD card rather than ripping an inexpensive DVD?

Jim;

Because you can :)

Alternatively, perhaps you have a media playback device besides the Oppo that uses SD.

Thanks for the reply. However, the divx file was on a DVD (among with other files), so it was not the limitation of the usb1.1
Do your divx files play as good as on your computer?

just pause it then play again. twice. thats what i do. it works just fine

Just a question for my own knowledge, but why would you rather download one movie to an SD card rather than ripping an inexpensive DVD?

You bring up a good point. My thoughts on this were. Since I have 2 houses. I would like to have a way to have all my movies where ever I am. Yes I could just rip them all to DVD's and keep a copy at each place. But my thought was that if this works I could keep them all on a large hard drive which is easy to keep with me along with my laptop. Then what ever movie I am in the mood for I can just copy to the SD card and watch it. This also makes actually finding the movie you want to watch much easier. I've never been very good at organizing my movie collection.

I haven't actually tried a full length movie yet to see how the card works with it. All the clips I have watched so far have worked just fine. USB of course would be great if they hadn't cheaped out and made it just 1.1.


Billl

Hi Friends,

This thread is huge at this point and I have done a few searches but can't find if this has been discussed. If it has - I am sorry for reposting...

Does anyone know how to (if you can) turn off the front display on the 970? I have looked throught the manual several times and there is no display option on the remote.
Is it possible that this is not possible? The bright orange display drives me nuts in my HT environment.

Cheers and thanks!

/\/\

Hi Friends,

This thread is huge at this point and I have done a few searches but can't find if this has been discussed. If it has - I am sorry for reposting...

Does anyone know how to (if you can) turn off the front display on the 970? I have looked throught the manual several times and there is no display option on the remote.
Is it possible that this is not possible? The bright orange display drives me nuts in my HT environment.

Cheers and thanks!

/\/\
What you see is what you have to live with. :)

Hi Friends,

The bright orange display drives me nuts in my HT environment.

Cheers and thanks!

/\/\

2 inches of electrical tape can fix that...

2 inches of electrical tape can fix that...
Great idea!! :)

How about using a small piece of window tint over the display to lessen its brightness if it's a problem for you. You could probably get a scrap piece from an auto tint place in various degrees of tint and see which one you like. Trim it with a razor knife, and then enjoy the show!!!

2 inches of electrical tape can fix that...

That was going to be my solution but I was hoping I had missed something! :D
Thanks for the response!
/\/\

The bright blue LED lights on my Emotiva amp were really bright too, so my wife picked up some blue cellophane at a hobby store (Michaels)--works great to cut down the glare. You can get lots of colors in small sheets to experiment with.

The bright blue LED lights on my Emotiva amp were really bright too, so my wife picked up some blue cellophane at a hobby store (Michaels)--works great to cut down the glare. You can get lots of colors in small sheets to experiment with.
Not sure where the IR sensor is, but it may be best to leave it uncovered.

Have anyone asked OPPO about possibility of playing DV-AVI (both type 1/2 or at least type1) files on 970? It just does not make sense to me to shoot home video at 25Mbps and then to convert it to 10Mbps MPEG-2. Many video authoring programs can output DV-AVI files, which preserves original footage. One single-layer DVD can store up to 20 minutes of high-quality video, double-layer stores up to 40 minutes, more than enough for a home video.

Would be awesome if OPPO players were able to play DV-AVI ! If no one has asked OPPO about that, I will shoot them an email.

Thanks.

Have anyone asked OPPO about possibility of playing DV-AVI (both type 1/2 or at least type1) files on 970? It just does not make sense to me to shoot home video at 25Mbps and then to convert it to 10Mbps MPEG-2. Many video authoring programs can output DV-AVI files, which preserves original footage. One single-layer DVD can store up to 20 minutes of high-quality video, double-layer stores up to 40 minutes, more than enough for a home video.

Would be awesome if OPPO players were able to play DV-AVI ! If no one has asked OPPO about that, I will shoot them an email.

Thanks.

That's interesting. Let us know what you find out.

i have an oppo 970 hd. it's connected to a mitsubishi 46" 1080p tv via hdmi. It seemed to me that previously when I pushed the hdmi button on the remote, it would show me the various settings from 480 to 1080i, but now when I do it, it either shows in the upper left corner 480p or when the button is pressed again a circle with a line through it. I tried switching hdmi cables but got the same thing.

I haven't a clue as to what's wrong at this point. Does anyone have a suggestion?"

thanks,

jeff

Did you stop playing a disc before pressing the HDMI button? Try pressing "STOP" until you just see the blue OPPO screen and then use the HDMI button to change output resolution.

that worked, thanks.

I did do a search on this topic, read some threads about PCM but didn't get my Q? Answered
Even Ovation’s 4/30/07 thread on PCM.
With the OPPO970 with my EQ. What rate should I set the LPCM rate to?
48K>96K>192K{I understand 192K is not supportable}
I haven’t really heard much difference between setting it at either 48 vs. 96.
Is there a difference for 2ch cd (coax) and a DVD movie setting?
[I also have 6anolog MCH SACD set up as well- but pcm does not matter here]
My receiver is just a Denon 3803+Carvinhd9009power amp-for front speakers)
5.1 speaker system. * HDMI for video only

The DV-970HD will not upsample audio. The LPCM rate just sets the maximum cycling rate for the original source material. If your receiver can receive signals higher than 48Khz, and you have a source content which is higher than 48Khz (such as a DVD-Audio disc) then you will be able to take advantage of this higher LPCM rate.

Otherwise, this setting has no bearing on your audio performance.

Neu,
I don't have any DVD-A's, just SACD (last player only did cd-sacd so i commited to that formate.
I'll have to review the manual again. I thought it said it handled 96K. but if it is need only for DVD_A material. i;ll just leave it at that- 96K. and move on thats.
Many tx,
db

SACD will not pass through optical or coaxial. SACD will also always be 88.2Khz through HDMI due to the PCM conversion.

Interesting thing happened, and it is probably a 'setup' control fix.

Previously (for about 9 months) had the Oppo 970 hooked up to the Panasonic Plasma 50px600u via (hdmi) and sound from the Oppo to the AVR (HK 7200) via optical/toslink. My AVR went on the blink this week in that it will only operate the FM, as whenever I now tried to use the avr for the Plasma or dvd audio, to use the room speakers, the AVR shuts down after about a minute and goes to sleep .

As a workaround, I added two cables from the r/l audio outputs on the rear of the Oppo and brought them to the HDMI audio input of the Plasma, since I could not get any sound using solely the hdmi connection from the Oppo to the Plasma. This was to now use the Plasma speakers which I normally set the volume to either 0 or +1 when having the audio output through the avr.

The sound on the plasma speakers seemed to be disabled in that I could not increase the volume on the Plasma by increasing the volume on the plasma remote.

I then went back into the setup mode on the Oppo and changed the audio to 'stereo mix' from the previous 7.5.1.

Still the sound was very low. I then went into another Oppo setting and raised the audio output (not sure which one) to almost 3/4 [it was a vertical scale] from the previous 1/2 and then I finally got control of the audio via the plasma remote. HOWEVER, it still was way below an acceptable range. So much so that I had to run the Plasma volume at about +29 when I usually run it at +10-->16 when not using the avr as the sound source.

Any thoughts????? :confused:
..Mark

Your plasma will likely only accept PCM stereo via HDMI, so you would need to do the following to get audio via HDMI: set the downmix to stereo and set the HDMI Audio to LPCM. You should also go ahead and set the 970HD's volume all the way up to 100% so that the player volume control is basically removed from the equation.

The stereo analog will still work - setting downmix to stereo was the key first step (don't want to lose dialog from 5.1 sources). Setting the volume control all the way up to 100% should get you going if you want to leave the analog cables hooked up.

Hello Friends,
I'm a proud owner of oppo 970, everything seems fine.... but i wish my external HDD would connect to this oppo... so that i don't have to frequently burn dvds.

Any pointers on what kind of USB drives are working?
I have a 250 GB USB 2.0 HDD.

Please help, anyone who has connected successfully to Oppo using USB HDD

Thanks

With regard to the external HDD....don't hold your breath. Maybe you'll be able to play XVID files or some such. But you won't be able to play regular mpeg or vob files properly. This is not a cheap version of a TVIX or similar device. It is basically a DVD player than can play back some limited files from a usb stick or a virtual usb stick (like a HDD).

Your plasma will likely only accept PCM stereo via HDMI, so you would need to do the following to get audio via HDMI: set the downmix to stereo and set the HDMI Audio to LPCM. You should also go ahead and set the 970HD's volume all the way up to 100% so that the player volume control is basically removed from the equation.

The stereo analog will still work - setting downmix to stereo was the key first step (don't want to lose dialog from 5.1 sources). Setting the volume control all the way up to 100% should get you going if you want to leave the analog cables hooked up.



gonk,

Thanks for the quick feedback.


..Mark

so i had a quick question...well ok i lied...TWO quick questions....

does anyone have a Samsung HL-S5687W DLP TV and the Oppo 970? if so...would you please tell me what is the best setting to have the TV on (in terms of color and all that shizzzz) AND the Oppo Player on to get the best out of it?

Buy an Avia or Digital Video Essentials DVD...or rent one via NetFlix. It will allow you to get the best picture you can from your equipment.

A large SD card works just fine for movie play back. I used a 2 gig sandisk standard speed card and it played almost anything I thru at it.


Billl

Cool, I'll have to give it a try.

Just a question for my own knowledge, but why would you rather download one movie to an SD card rather than ripping an inexpensive DVD?


Well, I'll still burn movies to DVD, but for all shorter media which you don't require a permanent copy, that's an awesome solution.

Well, I'll still burn movies to DVD, but for all shorter media which you don't require a permanent copy, that's an awesome solution.

If you go the DVD route, why not buy rewriteable disks? A 5-pack doesn't cost much, lasts nearly forever, and stores a bunch of space especially for DivX. Wait until there's 4GB of stuff to burn and have at it.

Oppo 970 and Pioneer 4270 or any Pioneer of this generation.
Good morning,

I have searched and searched as well as nearly driving my wife crazy, but still no D-nice or anyones definitive settings for the Oppo 970 with our sets.

Come on somebody has to have the "killer settings" for this set up, no?

If you get a chance please post or link, or PM, the info, we all would appreciate it.

D-Nice's 971 settings are fine, but would love to see the true settings for both the 4270 with the 970. Including, the debatable, 480i, 720p findings, and Adv or Standard, energy saver modes etc...

Thanks.

Yes I understand subjectivity and have the Digital Video Essentials DVD...on the way

I have a new 970 and I am noticing a little flicker or blurb about every 60-120 seconds. Just a nano-second flicker near the bottom or middle of the image and it doesn't seem to affect playback other than it is annoying. I doesn't do it on all DVDs, but it is disturbing anyway. I am hooked up via component and am using the 1081i upscaling to match my TV. This glitch, flicker whatever happens on random disks, retail and copies and I don't know why. I check the copied disks and they all have good scans, so I don;t think it's a matter of disk quality.

Any ideas?


I tried to search here for similar queries, but found nothing that matched my problem.

I have one 970 hooked up as you describe to a 1080i CRT, and do not have the same problem. I suggest you email to Oppo and ask the question directly...they're normally right on top of problems like this. Perhaps you could try running a laser cleaning DVD to see if you have some dust on the lens???

OPPO 970 and PS3 with 1.8fw

I upgraded my PS3 yesterday to firmware 1.8 and found PS3 became a very good upscale DVD player. I tested using HQV, and found PS3 actually got better score than 970, especially the jaggy patterns, the difference is obvious. It surprised me. Anyway, I will keep OPPO as my main DVD, SACD, DVD-A player, and PS3 as the BD and game machine. Hope OPPO can also have firmware upgrade to improve performance soon.

My TV is Sony Bravia 46s2010, connected using monoprice HDMI switch.

I have one 970 hooked up as you describe to a 1080i CRT, and do not have the same problem. I suggest you email to Oppo and ask the question directly...they're normally right on top of problems like this. Perhaps you could try running a laser cleaning DVD to see if you have some dust on the lens???


Thanks. I will try a cleaning and then call Oppo.

I just wanted to say how PLEASED I am with the purchase of my OPPO 970....I had hoped that by purchasing it that I would not have to buy a TRUE HD DVD [too expensvie for me] and I must say that this is the case. Had more PROOF of it last night..........in the past I had watched via rental DVD and on TV the movie "Full Metal Jacket" - last night I watched a new DVD of it on my OPPO 970 - it was GREAT, have NEVER seen it looking so crisp and clear.

Michael :)

Cyberized-

Congratulations on your new Oppo! It's a great player and I've never seen a DVD player respond to commands as quickly as this one does. A couple questions: What kind of display do you have? What resolution are you outputting to the display?

mbird :)

I have a Rear Projection 46" Toshiba and I run my DVD's at 1080i - via HDMI to DVI adapter. :)

Hi all,

I just got my OPPO 970 two days ago and so far very happy with it. And I have learned a lot from this thread before I placed the order. Thanks all!

Here I have a quick question about playing Xvid files with .srt subtitle. How can I load the subtitle? I read the manual but could not find such info. I put the Xvid file with the .srt file in the same directory on an external hard drive connected via USB port. When I play the file, then push "subtitle" on the remote control, it's n/a.

And, I found a problem with USB connection. When I connect the USB external hard drive to DVD player, if the power of the HDD is on, the file listing menu on the DVD player will flash then disappear. I have to turn off the HDD then on again to make it work. The same if they are connected and I turn on the HDD first. Shortly put, the external HDD should be off while connected, then turn on AFTER the DVD player is on.
I don't know if anybody else mentioned this. Is this a bug (or feature) or just mine?

Have a good day!

What can I do with the USB connection? Can I hook up a hard drive with DIVX movies or what?

What can I do with the USB connection? Can I hook up a hard drive with DIVX movies or what?You can, but the bitrate will be limited by the 1.1 USB.

You can, but the bitrate will be limited by the 1.1 USB.

Yes that's true. I have tested some MP4 files, basically it plays movies smoothly up to 170kbps rate. For a 190kbps movie I tested, there are some glitches occasionally but it's acceptable. I am quite happy with this result. BTW, I use an external HDD with its own power supply, 7200rpm, 8MB cache Seagate. I also tried SD card and flash drive just a little, so no substantial problems are found.

Here's a (perhaps) dumb question: the "play" button fell out of the remote. Really. Can I glue it back or will that damage some circuit? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

the "play" button fell out of the remote
Don't glue it, call Oppo, they will probably exchange it for you....but not if you glue or try and repair it......

Anyone knows if this player plays .ts video files from hdd when connected via USB?

No .ts video cannot be played via USB connection

jeff

Don't glue it, call Oppo, they will probably exchange it for you....but not if you glue or try and repair it......

Thank you.

No .ts video cannot be played via USB connection

jeff

Thank you Jeff. I plan to call oppo if they could support in future.

Thank you Jeff. I plan to call oppo if they could support in future.They can't, because the USB port is v1.1.

Can the 970HD send audio to a receiver over HDMI while sending video through the component cables? I'm planning on getting an HDMI receiver, but my tv only has component video inputs.

Can the 970HD send audio to a receiver over HDMI while sending video through the component cables? I'm planning on getting an HDMI receiver, but my tv only has component video inputs.

Why not just feed audio and video to the receiver via HDMI then video back to the TV via component from the receiver?

Why not just feed audio and video to the receiver via HDMI then video back to the TV via component from the receiver?

I haven't been able to find a receiver that does that since due to copyright restrictions they don't want you to be able to convert the digital video from HDMI to an analog signal over component video.

Can the 970HD send audio to a receiver over HDMI while sending video through the component cables? I'm planning on getting an HDMI receiver, but my tv only has component video inputs.
It should work - the 970HD outputs are all active at the same time. The only possible problem would be HDCP handshaking, but if the receiver can negotiate at least that far and get the audio stream you'd be fine. It might be good to see if someone with a HDMI v1.1 receiver can test it by leaving their TV off and trying to get audio from the 970HD via HDMI. Of course, you can simply use coaxial or optical for all discs except DVD-Audio and SACD.
Why not just feed audio and video to the receiver via HDMI then video back to the TV via component from the receiver?
I don't know of any receivers that will transcode from HDMI to component - newer models are offering transcoding of component to HDMI, but the same copyright concerns that force OPPO to limit component output to 480p on copy-protected discs have and will continue to make it frowned upon for receivers to transcode digital video to analog (not to mention the additional hardware and associated costs required to achieve it).

Thanks Gonk, I just wanted to use the HDMI for SACD and DVD-Audio for now to use the receiver's DAC's. I also want to make sure when I get a Blu Ray or HD DVD player I can use the HDMI for audio as well since I don't plan on getting a new TV for a while.

The best bet may be to decide what receiver you plan to use and try to test out how it handles HDMI audio input and HDCP when there is not an active display on the monitor output. Not having an HDMI v1.1+ receiver or processor yet, I don't know how they are generally behaving, but I can see a possible problem lurking there. Also, be aware that not all source devices will provide HDMI and component output simultaneously. I would expect Blu-ray and HD-DVD players to be OK, but I can't confirm that for certain and my old cable box disabled the component output when the DVI output was used.

I've been told by my dealer to wait for a new receiver until after the June introductions of new models. Most will be implementing HDMI 1.3, and that will give you full functionality of audio via the HDMI cable. But, as Gonk stated, receivers are now doing their internal video upconversion and switching to output via HDMI. The Denon 2807 for one, has S-Video and two component video outputs, but I'm not sure these carry video that has been inputed via the HDMI cable. You'd have to ask a dealer or the company directly. But, after you do find out, write back or start a new thread to answer this question.

Back of Denon receiver:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-jNlrUxNxI0Y/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&tab=morephotos&i=033AV2807B&pi=2&display=XL#Tab

Guys,

I rented a HD DVD movie and my player keeps loading without success? Can the oppo 970 read this or maybe my disc is so scratched up (Netflix)?



Thanks,
tony

Guys,

I rented a HD DVD movie and my player keeps loading without success? Can the oppo 970 read this or maybe my disc is so scratched up (Netflix)?



Thanks,
tony

Tony,

You are using the incorrect player. The Oppo is NOT an HD player: different format requirements.

Well, they did put HD in the model number...
...but no. Oppo does not make HD-dvd or BlueRay players.
Oppo dvd players play standard dvds while using sophisticated components to upscale the SD picture of the dvd to look close to as good as a high definition picture.

look close to as good as a high definition picture.
I recently had my 71" Samsung professionally calibrated and my 970 now looks really incredible.... a good transfer is as close to HD as can be. Soon I will get a Toshiba HDDVD, but rest assured I am keeping my Oppo in the mix for standard discs and pal and everything else this great player does.

No, I didn't seen anything in the manuals, both of them. I could not imagine how can a player make karaoke when I found no where to plug microphone. :-(
This is what is was referring to on p 16.

5. Audio Tone (+/-16): This function raises or lowers the tone (key/pitch) of the audio track. This is useful for playing Karaoke discs and should not be used for regular music listening or movies.
Yeah, you are right. I think it is the legacy left when they removed the karaoke feature, since it does not have microphone plug, I can see the usefulness of the setup. Thanks.
Last night I grabbed a CD+G (CD+Graphics) karaoke disc from the basement and threw it into the Oppo. Much to my surprise, it worked. Both music and graphics.

Without a microphone input, it's far from being a perfect karaoke disc player. But since I was going to get an analog audio switcher anyway (the iScan VP50 only has one set of analog audio inputs), I might as well get a mixer with microphone inputs.

hey...i just updated my Oppo 970 firmware to the latest beta...MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 4A-0209..but now i can't get my Samsung 5687w DLP to display what i put in my Oppo...i have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in too...somebody help!!!

Your TV may not accept 480i via HDMI. Try hitting stop on the OPPO and using the HDMI button to scroll through available resolutions.

worked great! thanks so much gonk!!!

Hi guys! Is there any future firmware for our players... ??

I would expect so. There are at least two beta's out there, one available on the web site and one you have to call for. I would expect another offical release in the next couple of months.

I currently have a sony ns725p progressive scan dvd player from a few years ago. I just bought a 1080p lcd and was wondering if I'll see a large enough improvement with the 970 to justify purchasing it. Can anyone help with suggestions?

I have noticed that the upscaling of the tv with my current sony looks decent, better than I expected, but I'm not about to buy a hd/bd player when the format war is still raging. Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

I'm going to be connecting this oppo with an onkyo sr 304 which doesn't have an hdmi port. Will I be able to run a hdmi cable directly to the TV and run an optical cable to the receiver?

Will I be able to run a hdmi cable directly to the TV and run an optical cable to the receiver?
Yep. No problem. You can use DigCoax too if your receiver has that....Or analogs...or all the above at the same time.:)

...Will I be able to run a hdmi cable directly to the TV and run an optical cable to the receiver?
That is how I have mine setup to my older Sony receiver. The optical or digital coax will give you the Dolby Digital soundtracks for the receiver to decode, and if your receiver supports it, you'll use three pair of RCAs running to the 5.1 analog inputs to use the SACD and DVD-A functions of the player.

That is how I have mine setup to my older Sony receiver. The optical or digital coax will give you the Dolby Digital soundtracks for the receiver to decode, and if your receiver supports it, you'll use three pair of RCAs running to the 5.1 analog inputs to use the SACD and DVD-A functions of the player.

ok, you lost me on the latter part. three pair of rca? that sounds like an awful lot of audio outputs.

DVD-Audio and SACD discs cannot be output via optical or coaxial digital. They must be decoded inside the player and then output either as analog (which for a 5.1 source means six analog audio cables) or as multichannel PCM digital data over HDMI. If you don't have any DVD-Audio or SACD discs, don't worry about it.

Technically, it's only the copy protection that prevents output of stereo DVD-A at 96/24 via optical/coax. So if you have software to burn your own two-channel DVD-As, the optical/coax should pass them from your DVD-A player. Home burned multichannel DVD-A will be limited by the data limits of optical/coax.

DVD-A and SACD can also be passed digitally via ilink (audio Firewire) , HDMI (SACD is coverted to PCM first, unless you have HDMI 1.2 or greater), and certain proprietary digital links.

... that sounds like an awful lot of audio outputs.
Yes, quite a few cables running from the player to the receiver, but if you haven't experienced SACD or DVD-Audio high res surround sound, connect a few cables and purchase a disc. You'll be delighted by the sound experience if the disc is mixed correctly. Not every album is offered in these formats, but there's a decent supply of them, and BestBuy has a separate section for them. The player has the capability of playing these, so try it out.

This is ANOTHER "Thumbs UP!" for the OPPO 970 for anyone still "shopping"....once again, I see NO reason to upgrade to an HD
DVD Player......Last night I watched, for the first time on the OPPO,
the 2004 Release of Star Wars Trilogy and I could NOT believe me eyes,
the film I think looked better than the original theater version and I seriously
doubt IF one would really notice improvement with a new HD DVD Player.

TKS OPPO!

Michael

This is ANOTHER "Thumbs UP!" for the OPPO 970 for anyone still "shopping"....once again, I see NO reason to upgrade to an HD DVD PlayerThen you haven't seen "The Matrix" in HD!!! I've been comparing my new HD-DVD versions on my 2 HD-DVD players vs my DVD's using my Oppo 970 and if that doesn't change your mind...well...I just won't go there.

Then you haven't seen "The Matrix" in HD!!!....
And I haven't seen that particular video, but I wouldn't go near as far to say that the Oppo is displaying that quality, and I'm a walking ad for the brand! Yes, the player is all that is advertised, and tehn some, but you really need to see high-def stuff sent to a proper panel to understand what the next level is supposed to be about! Of course, you can buy both titles of worthwhile keepers available and have a complete library at this point! :D

I've been truly amazed at what my Oppo can do with DVDs. It does indeed make it difficult to spend the extra money on the 2 competing brands of HD movies. However, it truly is amazing what you can see in HD. In fact, almost too amazing...you can see almost every pore and blemish on actors/actresses faces...and that might not be something you care to see ;).

"The Matrix" is indeed one of the best HD movies I've seen. I was doing an A/B comparison of my HD versions vs my DVD versions and 'blown away' by the quality of HD. The DVD through the Oppo is no slotch however, and some people may just not care.

I have a question. I've had the 970 for a few months and just recently got an HDTV (Vizio VW32L). When I use the 970 with HDMI cable there is a 2 second delay on the audio when I either start a movie/show or skip to a chapter. While this isn't a big deal on movies, on some of my TV shows on DVD it is annoying. For example, The Office sometimes starts right off with dialogue on some episodes and it is annoying to have to rewind to hear what was said because the HDMI was resynching.

Anyway, I emailed Oppo about this and they said that it was a common problem with HDMI. Has anyone else had this problem, and is it something that I just have to get used to? I've never had a TV with HDMI before so I don't know from experience if this happens a lot.

Could you guys tell us what displays (and what resolutions) you are doing the DVD vs HD-DVD comparisons with. Basically, I want to know what to expect if watching a HD-DVD feed downscaling to my 720p panel. Better than my 970 upscaling 480p DVD to 720p???

Could you guys tell us what displays (and what resolutions) you are doing the DVD vs HD-DVD comparisons with. Basically, I want to know what to expect if watching a HD-DVD feed downscaling to my 720p panel. Better than my 970 upscaling 480p DVD to 720p???I've got 2 LCD panels - 1) a cheap 1366x768 32" Sceptre 2) a nicer inexpensive 1920x1080 47" Philips. In both cases, I can easily see the difference between DVD and HD-DVD. On my 1080p TV, I would only input 1080i to get the full resolution, but on my 768p TV, I've tried both 1080i and720p and I honestly can't tell the difference in PQ. I've used my Oppo on both TV's and presently connected to my 32" TV because I have my HD-DVD player connected to my 47" TV where I prefer to watch most of my HD.

I'm thinking of getting the Oppo 970. There are some great deals out there currently. I've been through a couple other upscaling DVD players lately and have noticed that some will display the entire DVE PLUGE pattern with blacks below video black and others won't show the bar for below black. I've tried tons of combinations of settings with no luck on the players that won't show it.

I would like to get an Oppo, but I'm afraid to order one and be disappointed in an inability to display the full range of blacks on my new 1080p panasonic plasma.

Will the Oppo 970 (or 981) display the full PLUGE? Am I just an idiot and can't seem to set up properly?

If I had a 1080p Panasonic Plasma, I would get a Toshiba HD-DVD player and forget the Oppo altogether. I bought my Toshiba for $250. I even ordered the HD DVE that I'm waiting to arrive.

the player isn't the issue (the 970 is outputting full range of signal). the issue is with the display.
You'll have to find a set of display settings that work, if it's possible.
Best,
jeff