View Full Version : FOX to support HD DVD?? Petition here...


rdjam
06-01-06, 05:28 AM
This is a petition for FOX to support HD DVD.

Very similar to the others for Lion's Gate and Disney.

As you know FOX now will control the MGM library of 4,000 movies as well, so this is a very pivotal studio in getting HD DVD support.

The Disney and Lion's gate petitions are now at about 200 signatures each and are being forwarded to the studios weekly.

EDIT: Note that the new single petition is at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/HD_DVD_Studio_Support - it will be starting at zero for the new signers, but bear in mind we already have almost 1,200 founding signatories...

This is all good.

I think it would help if all those who want more HD DVD studios, promote the petition and it's link in your signatures.

And if you're on other sites, please do it there, also.

Time to rachet up the exposure.

You can use the following syntax - although you must replace the "(" and ")" that I put here with "[" and "]"...

For example:

Support the HD DVD (URL=Studio Petition)http://www.hdnowonline.com(/URL) here. Sign Now!

You can BOLD your signature by putting (B) and (/B) at the front and back - again, replace the "("s with "["s, etc.

It really is the right time to ratchet this campaign up a notch and your support in your signatures will send a big message in and of itself.

Thanks!

Naturally - I don't expect non-HD DVD supporters to have good things to say about this effort, so I would ask that negative commentary not be posted here.

Supporters - Please REPORT any troll (antagonistic) posts that are submitted here - Do not bother to reply.

price3
06-01-06, 08:48 AM
Just an opinion, but I would not forward this to the studios weekly. Seems it would be more of an annoyance than persuasion. Maybe wait until it reaches a few thousand, then forward it. After that it should stand on its own.

George Montemayor
06-01-06, 11:46 AM
Not to sound like a troll but wouldn't a written letter snail mailed to the studios be more effective than an online poll? I wouldn't know where to send such a letter however.

BOSS10L
06-01-06, 12:14 PM
Fox (and others) probably won't even consider it until the numbers are in the tens if not hundred of thousand signatures. I applaud your effort rdjam, but this is a business decision for them, this is a passion for us. If I were in their shoes, I'd probably feel the same way.

That being said, if Blu-Ray doesn't sell as promised or sales of titles are lackluster, I can easily see them supporting both formats.

Issac Hunt
06-01-06, 01:15 PM
Where is there any indication that Fox will distribute MGM movies on high def optical discs? The situation appears to be that MGM remains bound to release on BD as per the original terms of Sony's part purchase of the company.

As to online petitions and their ability to sway the business decisions of the studios... :D

efranzen
06-01-06, 02:25 PM
As to online petitions and their ability to sway the business decisions of the studios... :D

It worked here, http://www.putgrandprixondvd.com/ and with just 7,105 signatures no less.

rdjam
06-02-06, 05:20 AM
A great "opening night", so to speak! :)

75 signatures collected on the first day - keep them coming!

George, you're absolutely right - I'll post email and snail-mail contacts as well later today.

It's important that everyone still sign the online petition - but it will add impact if those who have a moment also send letters and emails directly.

BOSS - I think given the limited number of players and owners at this stage, the studios will be quite understanding of the fact that you're not going to see 100's of thousands of signatories. Petitions like this have succeeded on far smaller numbers than that.

Issac Hunt
06-02-06, 06:59 AM
It worked here, http://www.putgrandprixondvd.com/ and with just 7,105 signatures no less.
Is there any reason to think the DVD is being launched because of the petition or website?

rdjam
06-02-06, 07:48 AM
Is there any reason to think the DVD is being launched because of the petition or website?
I think it is pretty clear on the site that it was.

Issac Hunt
06-02-06, 07:53 AM
I think it is pretty clear on the site that it was.
From the site:
The powers that be inside Warner, aware of the Petition since the early days, were impressed with the passion all of us feel towards the film. We'd like to think that passion helped finalize their decision to finally release Grand Prix on DVD in this great new 2 disc Anniversary Edition.

Sounds like they sent off their petition and some bod at Warner mailed back to say WB was impressed with their passion and aware of the petition. Then nearly a year later a DVD was released. There seems no reason to link the two events.

Richard Paul
06-02-06, 04:02 PM
This is a petition for FOX to support HD DVD.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/Fox_Support_HD_DVDThe petition would have a bit more weight if it didn't have a combination of rumor and opinion in it. Fox already knows the facts about the two formats and telling them rumors/opinions is not exactly going to impress them. In other words it would have made more sense to simply have a short paragraph explaining the nature of the petition. Nothing more is needed or advisable for this type of petition.

Also rdjam you might want to know a bit more about Fox since their are good reasons why Fox supports Blu-ray. A few years ago Fox wanted to join the Steering Committee of the DVD Forum, which is the decision making body of the DVD forum, but was rejected. Later on when the BDA Board of Directors was being made Fox was invited into it and since then has helped make the Blu-ray format. They were the main proponent of BD+ which is something that only Blu-ray has. For these two reasons Fox will be one of stronger supporters of Blu-ray in this format war.

joerod
06-02-06, 06:48 PM
Yeah Baby! Since they gave support to D-THEATER then there is not a single reason why they could not support HD DVD...

rdjam
06-05-06, 09:06 PM
NEW!

There is now a petition for MGM to support HD DVD too. It's a new "friendly" version which hopefully will attract less debate..

EDIT: Note that ALL the previous petitions have been rolled into one now to save effort on the part of the signers - bear in mind that the new one starts at zero, but that there are already almost 1,200 "founding signatories".

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/HD_DVD_Studio_Support

Sign now - let's get as much attention as we can at this key moment in time!

joerod
06-05-06, 10:23 PM
Good job rdjam! The more petitions the merrier! :) ;)

rdjam
06-06-06, 06:54 AM
The petitions for Lions Gate and Disney have been moved to NEW petitions on another petition site.

Your original petitions have been sent to the studios, but this new site is more powerful, so please feel free to sign this new petition as well, even if you already signed the original Disney and Lions Gate petitions.

EDIT: The original petitions have now all been replaced by this new SINGLE petition page, to save everyone having to sign four different times.

The new petition is at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/HD_DVD_Studio_Support

Note that there are now almost 1,200 original "founding petitioners" that are in addition to much of what you see in the new count online.

rdjam
10-06-06, 03:38 PM
Also, note the new HD DVD NOW! Petition website is at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/HD_DVD_Studio_Support

Brad1963
10-06-06, 06:34 PM
If HD DVD hardware and software continue to sell well and beyond Blu-Ray the studios will have no choice than to jump on board. Fox is doing what they did when the DVD and DIVX formats debut back in 1997. They were determined only to support DIVX and later jumped on the DVD bandwagon after DIXY failed. Ironically Fox has produced some of the Best DVD's on the market. Give it time. HD DVD is doing very well and will continue to. Lionsgate and Disney are rumored to be working on HD titles.

rdjam
11-29-06, 09:10 PM
Hi all !

We sent an email out to all supporters yesterday and today - however, it appears that some of our emails to HD DVD supporters MAY have been blocked.

Some Comcast (and to some extent, Yahoo) users appear NOT to have gotten our emails.

I have posted a poll for Petition supporters to let us know whether or not they got the emails.

Please fill out this poll, whether you got the email or not - so that I can see whether there is anything that I should be worried about.

It is here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759703

Thank you!!

P.S. We are over 2,000 people strong, now!

BoSoxMole
11-29-06, 09:25 PM
These petitions never work and never will.

MSpeed6
11-29-06, 09:41 PM
I'd love Fight Club and Aliens but i guess i'll just watch them on PS3.

Mike C
11-29-06, 09:42 PM
Maybe were wasting our time, just like trolls...

These petitions never work and never will.

hd nOOb
03-27-07, 03:43 PM
Maybe time to fire up again. Fox keeps postponing its releases so maybe we have a chance? :o


http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Fox_Bumps_Me,_Myself_&_Irene_from_Blu-ray_Slate/545

pkde
03-27-07, 06:24 PM
I'm not an advocate of petitions, but let's hope Fox decides to got neutral, no matter for which reason.

Alan Gordon
03-27-07, 06:30 PM
Maybe time to fire up again. Fox keeps postponing its releases so maybe we have a chance? :o


http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Fox_Bumps_Me,_Myself_&_Irene_from_Blu-ray_Slate/545

Fox has stated that they intend to release all their future releases with added copy-protection (BD+ or something like that), so it was no surprise for Fox to pull this title from the schedule as it was their only catalog title still scheduled.

Considering that HD DVD does not have this added copy protection, chances are even more doubtful now than they were before.

~Alan

rdjam
03-28-07, 12:11 PM
Yes - it's time... :)

awmurray
03-28-07, 12:21 PM
Fox has stated that they intend to release all their future releases with added copy-protection (BD+ or something like that), so it was no surprise for Fox to pull this title from the schedule as it was their only catalog title still scheduled.

Considering that HD DVD does not have this added copy protection, chances are even more doubtful now than they were before.

~Alan

I'm glad they're finally getting this out.

That way BD+ can be hacked and we can get on with it.... ;).

Kdbing
03-28-07, 01:04 PM
Fox has stated that they intend to release all their future releases with added copy-protection (BD+ or something like that), so it was no surprise for Fox to pull this title from the schedule as it was their only catalog title still scheduled.

Considering that HD DVD does not have this added copy protection, chances are even more doubtful now than they were before.

~Alan

Thes companies look at dollar signs period. If you think copy protection will keep a studio form jumping on ship you ar sadly mistaken. If sales revenue says youll benifit from jumping on board cause the pure sales numbers are there.. then theyll buy in for the sales, not for the assumed loss of sales due to pirating.

khwiggins2
03-28-07, 01:17 PM
Fox has stated that they intend to release all their future releases with added copy-protection (BD+ or something like that), so it was no surprise for Fox to pull this title from the schedule as it was their only catalog title still scheduled.

Considering that HD DVD does not have this added copy protection, chances are even more doubtful now than they were before.

~Alan

If they're waiting for BD to have BD+ available, and BD-J and BD-I are any indication, we may not see any Fox movies on HD until 2008-9. I think they'll cave before then.

Baronken
03-28-07, 02:40 PM
I'm glad they're finally getting this out.

That way BD+ can be hacked and we can get on with it.... ;).Agreed. It's inevitable that copy protection will be cracked (sooner or later). Release it, quit spending countless (wasted) $$ on it, it'll get cracked, and we can all move on and concentrate on enjoying movies in HD.

philnerd
03-28-07, 05:51 PM
Have the Blu-Ray fans started a petition for Fox films yet too? :)

Schils
03-28-07, 06:53 PM
Have the Blu-Ray fans started a petition for Fox films yet too? :)
LMAO! http://www.sounds-of-schils.com/music/gifs/ROFL.gif

HomerJay
03-28-07, 07:17 PM
I'm glad they're finally getting this out.

That way BD+ can be hacked and we can get on with it.... ;).And apparently if you hack BD+, you don't even need to bother with AACS due to the virtual machine model used. (At least that's what I got from reading about this subject; if I'm wrong, please correct).

rdjam
03-28-07, 07:44 PM
Have the Blu-Ray fans started a petition for Fox films yet too? :)
ROTFL - I've got to admit, that is one of the best I've heard lately! :p