Just wanted to be post number 1000. :) :)

I think I want the HD7300 but have some questions. I would greatly appreciate any and all comments regarding the following questions:

Does the 7300 have the same bulb strike problems as the 7100? Should I be worried about the bulb? What is Optoma's position on this issue.

Does the external scaler help? Seems like the scaler just confuses the setup process. Seems like just a repeat of the same setup options as you have on the projector.

I am going to ceiling mount (9ft high) and was trying to find out how much offset there is without any lens shift. Looking at about a 106" diag screen with the projector about 11-12' back from the screen. How far down from the ceiling would you want your screen to begin?

Last question, I this projector bright enough? What about for sports and a little light on in the room? I am very worried about this.

Thanks for all the help.
Jason

I searched and could not find one with striking issue all were 7100 stand alone..
I puts out about 400 lumen in d65 mode and more in brighter mode. This is a faily bright pJ with decent black level with accurate color.
I think the scaler is very attarctive. With Gennum gf9351 and having all sort of options is great. What I like about it is the fact it offers two color gamut ( one hd standard) and gamma bump. It is also a great switcher and converts all analog to HDMI. For the price it is a steal no question about it.
There is a calc on Optoma site that you can use to find out the off set.
I have one on order.

Hi
Where is the Optoma 7300 manufactured?
Thanks,
Greg

Taiwan I think where the head Q is.

Hi
Where is the Optoma 7300 manufactured?
Thanks,
Greg

Taiwan

The two places I was able to find that had the extra bulb included are charging me sales tax (I guess they have a warehouse in my state, TN). This adds another $130 which is getting the rate up around the price of the Panny AX200 or even the new Epson coming out. Should I still consider the HD7300 with the tax or should I look at something else? I realize that this is the >$3000 forum but this is where the thread for the 7100/7300 is located. I am just worried I will have buyers remorse.

Jason

I added the 7300 bundle to the cart in the egg but hesitated to pull the final trigger, because I could not decide which one is a better deal between the sp7210 and the hd7300.

Anyone has experience in both, and which one would you recommend?

Thanks

IF SP7210 is long throw and is brighter but black level is subpar.
Both have top notch lens. Both should be equal but different.

OK, now I am confused. I just called Optoma, and the tech guy said that the HD7300 is not usable without the scaler as a stand alone PJ.

He also said that the scaler needs to be connected using two cables--HDMI and RS232, and that it won't work without the RS232.

Is this the case? I was planning on having the scaler near my receiver and just running one long HDMI to the PJ. Do I need to run a long RS232 cable as well?

This seems odd.

Can anyone that has one of these clear this up for me?

Thanks.

bdbaba

The PJ can be used standalone. That's how I have mine setup now. It's got lots of connections on the back: DVI, 2xComponent, S-Video, Composite, and RGB (PC monitor).
Check the Optoma site for the manuals for details and to see if RS-232 is required. My quick read seems to indicate this is for an input PC connection to either the scaler or PJ rather than something the scaler uses to communicate to the PJ. The PJ should sync to whatever the scaler is sending over the HDMI - in fact, you should set the scaler output to 720p to use it to do all the work and let the PJ just display the pixels it sends.

The Optoma web page even list this feature:
"Single cable connection between projector and image processor eliminates the need for multiple cables, simplifying the installation"

To me, this means all you need is the HDMI-to-DVI cable from Scaler to PJ.

BTW, I just downloaded and did a binary compare of the HD7300 and HD7100 manuals - they are identical. There is no mention of the PJ model number it always referred to as "the projector."

BTW, I just downloaded and did a binary compare of the HD7300 and HD7100 manuals - they are identical. There is no mention of the PJ model number it always referred to as "the projector."

Thanks Steve,

So much for "Tech Support." Are you still liking the PJ?

Let me understand your problem. Prior to placing the HDMI switcher in the loop to pick up both your HTPC and your satellite box you had no problem viewing either device. After removing it, will not recognize either if connected unless you play connection games as you described previously. I'm wondering whether there
was a hardware failure or degraded input caused by the HDMI switcher. If you get the new projector I would not use the switcher unless your adventuresome is seeing if you get a repetition of the problem. It would be interesting to know the internals of the switcher.

I don't ever recall seeing boot screen of the HTPC on the projector. The times I got the image on via HDMI from the PC was when I was turning PC on and then the projector. Those days, I had just unplugged the Sony VLP-HS51 and the drivers on the PC was set to not to do monitor detection, and HDMI was set to output the clone image of the VGA output. So, what must have been happening is that the PC booted to VGA and then enabled the HDMI output on finishing boot, so Optoma showed the image, which is consistent with the image showing up on a hot swap.

The PJ can be used standalone. That's how I have mine setup now. It's got lots of connections on the back: DVI, 2xComponent, S-Video, Composite, and RGB (PC monitor).
Check the Optoma site for the manuals for details and to see if RS-232 is required. My quick read seems to indicate this is for an input PC connection to either the scaler or PJ rather than something the scaler uses to communicate to the PJ. The PJ should sync to whatever the scaler is sending over the HDMI - in fact, you should set the scaler output to 720p to use it to do all the work and let the PJ just display the pixels it sends.

The Optoma web page even list this feature:
"Single cable connection between projector and image processor eliminates the need for multiple cables, simplifying the installation"

To me, this means all you need is the HDMI-to-DVI cable from Scaler to PJ.

I just called Optoma again. Talked to sales this time. He reiterated what the other guy said.

So I had him connect me to tech support again and told him that yours is working without the scaler. He went away for a minute and came back and said that the confusion is that the HD81 needs the scaler and the RS232, but the HD7300 can be a stand alone unit.

I do have to say that even with the confusion, they all have been very nice.

Nothing like a little confusion to start the day.

Aloha.

Thanks Steve,

So much for "Tech Support." Are you still liking the PJ?
Yes. I hung the screen yesterday but did not do much other than a quick checkout. I have it setup in a spare bedroom for now. Not my ideal location but it's one I can close off for now. Eventually I want to enable closing off a loft area and that will give better access and seating / sound options.

I need to get the scaler in the mix to see how much that improves things. I thought I would need some more cables, but I see from the manual that the scaler includes a long and short HDMI cable. Those, along with an adapter I have will let me hook up my upsampling DVD player and ATSC receiver.

I just called Optoma again. Talked to sales this time. He reiterated what the other guy said.

So I had him connect me to tech support again and told him that yours is working without the scaler. He went away for a minute and came back and said that the confusion is that the HD81 needs the scaler and the RS232, but the HD7300 can be a stand alone unit.

I do have to say that even with the confusion, they all have been very nice.

Nothing like a little confusion to start the day.

Aloha.

Even though the 7300 CAN be used without the scaler, does using the scaler with the RS232 over-ride the PJ controls (a la the 81) or are both the scaler AND the PJ controls active? If you only use an HDMI, can the scaler control the PJ? If so, how? If the PJ controls are active, what sort of settings do you use and how do they interact with the scaler?

This is strange that the HD7300 appears to be identical to the HD7100 but does not have the bulb issue.

Even though the 7300 CAN be used without the scaler, does using the scaler with the RS232 over-ride the PJ controls (a la the 81) or are both the scaler AND the PJ controls active? If you only use an HDMI, can the scaler control the PJ? If so, how? If the PJ controls are active, what sort of settings do you use and how do they interact with the scaler?

I asked the Tech. guy if the scaler--when hooked up via HDMI--over-rides the controls in the PJ. He said it did.

Can someone answer this? I think someone like Guitarman or Wing should know the answer to this.

Yes. I hung the screen yesterday but did not do much other than a quick checkout. I have it setup in a spare bedroom for now. Not my ideal location but it's one I can close off for now. Eventually I want to enable closing off a loft area and that will give better access and seating / sound options.

I need to get the scaler in the mix to see how much that improves things. I thought I would need some more cables, but I see from the manual that the scaler includes a long and short HDMI cable. Those, along with an adapter I have will let me hook up my upsampling DVD player and ATSC receiver.

Great to hear that you like the PJ. I am interested to hear what differences you notice once you hook up the scaler as well.

I asked the Tech. guy if the scaler--when hooked up via HDMI--over-rides the controls in the PJ. He said it did.

Can someone answer this? I think someone like Guitarman or Wing should know the answer to this.


I talked to Wing today about the HD7300. The scaler gets hooked up with just the DVI connection on the PJ and out from just HDMI on the scaler. The scaler is set for 720p which is best because it's scales cleaner than anything the projector standing alone can do. From what I got the scaler is basically the stand alone HD3000 scaler that can be used with other projectors. One of the owners here can confirm this by seeing in the menus that the scaler has the ability to change output resolutions, like 720p, 1080i etc.

I talked to Wing today about the HD7300. The scaler gets hooked up with just the DVI connection on the PJ and out from just HDMI on the scaler. The scaler is set for 720p which is best because it's scales cleaner than anything the projector standing alone can do. From what I got the scaler is basically the stand alone HD3000 scaler that can be used with other projectors. One of the owners here can confirm this by seeing in the menus that the scaler has the ability to change output resolutions, like 720p, 1080i etc.

Much Mahalo Guitarman,

So a few questions.

Does using the Scaler override the PJs controls? And if not, do you keep the PJ at default and just adjust the controls on the scaler?

Also, is this the same scaler used with the newer Optoma PJs?

Do you think Optoma will ship the Scaler with the latest firmware?

Aloha,

bdbaba

This is strange that the HD7300 appears to be identical to the HD7100 but does not have the bulb issue.

Has anyone who has bought the 7300 had any issues with the projector? I know it is basically the same projector but it might have a little different firmware. I've been holding out for 1080p DLP but these drops on 720p projectors are killing me.

Is the warranty on the 7300 3 years?

Thanks,
Mike

Has anyone who has bought the 7300 had any issues with the projector? I know it is basically the same projector but it might have a little different firmware. I've been holding out for 1080p DLP but these drops on 720p projectors are killing me.

Is the warranty on the 7300 3 years?

Thanks,
Mike

Hey Mike,

Three Years. Free bulb. Plus HD3000 Scaler. It is hard to pass up.

Cheers.

Hey Mike,

Three Years. Free bulb. Plus HD3000 Scaler. It is hard to pass up.

Cheers.


I thought it was 3 years with the warranty so that is at least good to know. The free bulb is what tipped it over the edge for me to consider and then a free $3k MSRP scaler to boot. I just wish there wasn't that bulb issue with it not striking and then some users not getting that many hours out of the bulb. Argh!! what to do...what to do...

Mike

I don't know well about this combo but how HDMI interface can talk to the pj in terms of setting?! Perhaps if someone is interested in doing that the serial connection would do just that. Having said that the resolution and refresh rate are the only thing that the pj can see via HDMI imo.
Could the owners of this pj elaborate on PQ?

I thought it was 3 years with the warranty so that is at least good to know. The free bulb is what tipped it over the edge for me to consider and then a free $3k MSRP scaler to boot. I just wish there wasn't that bulb issue with it not striking and then some users not getting that many hours out of the bulb. Argh!! what to do...what to do...

Mike

I know! These PJs are such a crap shoot. VP4001 might have image bowing. HD7300 might have bulb issues. Even the lofty JVC might have lens vibration issues. And so on and so on... Alas, nothing made by us humans is perfect.

I have a Mack bulb warranty added to mine, so with that and an extra bulb, I feel decently taken care of.

Good luck making up your mind.

bdbaba

I thought it was 3 years with the warranty so that is at least good to know. The free bulb is what tipped it over the edge for me to consider and then a free $3k MSRP scaler to boot. I just wish there wasn't that bulb issue with it not striking and then some users not getting that many hours out of the bulb. Argh!! what to do...what to do...

Mike

Have you seen one report that 7300 has strike issue?
We are assuming the 7100 & 7300 are 100% identical.
it might be the case. But let see if someone will confirm the strike issue.:)

OK, now I am confused. I just called Optoma, and the tech guy said that the HD7300 is not usable without the scaler as a stand alone PJ.

He also said that the scaler needs to be connected using two cables--HDMI and RS232, and that it won't work without the RS232.

Is this the case? I was planning on having the scaler near my receiver and just running one long HDMI to the PJ. Do I need to run a long RS232 cable as well?

This seems odd.

Can anyone that has one of these clear this up for me?

Thanks.

bdbaba

did he say both had to be connected to the PJ? That doesn't make any sense. I just went to optoma sight and they specify single cable connection
to the pj from scaler.

http://www.optomausa.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=292

Have you seen one report that 7300 has strike issue?
We are assuming the 7100 & 7300 are 100% identical.
it might be the case. But let see if someone will confirm the strike issue.:)

I don't think I have read of someone who said they had a 7300 and had a strike issue but there are far fewer 7300 owners than 7100 owners. I do assume the 7100 & 7300 are identical but I don't know 100%. I feel safer with a 3 year warranty though. The extra bulb is no good if the bulb fails as it shouldn't have to be used until its normal time anyways. This is still a great deal. Maybe I can sell the scaler and the new extra bulb and get the projector for free....hmmmm..lol :)

Mike

did he say both had to be connected to the PJ? That doesn't make any sense. I just went to optoma sight and they specify single cable connection
to the pj from scaler.

http://www.optomausa.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=292

mkoss,

Tech support later said that for the HD7300, only one connection is needed via HDMI to the DVI port, unlike the HD81 that needs both.

Only a few had lamp issue wit 7100 but mostly it was the failed strike which took a few times to get the lamp going.

I do assume the 7100 & 7300 are identical but I don't know 100%. :)

Mike

There was an earlier poster that I talked to that said when he had his HD7100 that he bought recently from VA hooked up to his HTPC, it recognized it as HD7300. Maybe they sold all the HD7100s and just replaced them with the HD7300s. Or they were all HD7300s all along.

Only a few had lamp issue wit 7100 but mostly it was the failed strike which took a few times to get the lamp going.

I had this problem with a previous projector as it was the connection where the bulb housing door was causing the problem. It was a pain in the butt and thats why I wanted to avoid it with the next projector I got. I know any projector can have problems so its a crap shoot sometimes. I hope newegg doesn't run out before I make up my mind. I know it has to be bought by Wednesday to get in on the $200 rebate also.

Mike

I had this problem with a previous projector as it was the connection where the bulb housing door was causing the problem. It was a pain in the butt and thats why I wanted to avoid it with the next projector I got. I know any projector can have problems so its a crap shoot sometimes. I hope newegg doesn't run out before I make up my mind. I know it has to be bought by Wednesday to get in on the $200 rebate also.

Mike

Last time I looked, they had 10 more on the link with the free bulb, and over 20 on the other link, which seems like it might have the free bulb as well.

I think you might be able to avoid hard wire if you use this.
http://www.smarthome.com/4832.html

CaspianM, Bdbaba

so, have either of you had the 7100 or 7300 combo yet?

No it will be while. It is not even shipped yet.

No it will be while. It is not even shipped yet.

Same here. Still in processing.

No it will be while. It is not even shipped yet.

Yeah, I ordered mine Friday night and still I'm at step 1 in there order process.
Don't want this to fall through due to some complication. I even called but they told me it would take at least a day.

Yeah, I ordered mine Friday night and still I'm at step 1 in there order process.
Don't want this to fall through due to some complication. I even called but they told me it would take at least a day.


You wil be alright.:)

I don't know well about this combo but how HDMI interface can talk to the pj in terms of setting?! Perhaps if someone is interested in doing that the serial connection would do just that. Having said that the resolution and refresh rate are the only thing that the pj can see via HDMI imo.
Could the owners of this pj elaborate on PQ?

I think you are right regarding HDMI, but the PJ controls via RS-232 are pretty basic stuff that can be done with the remote.
Here is a link to the PJ's RS-232 commands:http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/ProtocolFunction/Optoma_HD7300_RS232.pdf
The aspect and input source settings would not be used when the scaler is used.

From the HD3000 manual link on the HD7300 page, RS-232 appears to be an input only - the scaler does not appear to have the ability to master this to talk to the PJ. It's also used for firmware upgrades to the scaler:

RS232: one connector for firmware upgrading, debugging and remote control.

There is no info on how it's used for debugging & remote control; i.e., no protocol doc link is provided for the scaler.

The HD81 manual shows a scaler that is very similar to the HD3000 but one key difference is a dedicated RS-232 out to the PJ in addition to the "normal" RS-232 port in the HD3000.

Good post Steve. Keep it coming guys.

I have a 7100 hooked up to a DirecTv H20 box and an upconverting dvd player. I'm tempted to get the 7300 packaged with the extra bulb, keep the bulb and scaler, sell the projector. What would the scaler do for my setup that the H20 box and upconverting DVD player don't do? Will it upconvert standard TV signals coming out of the satellite box to 720p or 1080i such as the upconverting DVD player does?

Where do you guys see the scaler and the extra bulb in the package, I keep seeing either or, ie the scaler or the bulb?

If you buy the 7300, it's going to have the scaler no matter what. That's what makes it the 7300 as opposed to the 7100. The 7100 is the pj by itself. The 7300 is the pj plus the scaler.

Have you seen one report that 7300 has strike issue?
We are assuming the 7100 & 7300 are 100% identical.
it might be the case. But let see if someone will confirm the strike issue.:)

The 7100 that I bought from VA was drop shipped from Optoma. ATI drivers on my HTPC recognizes the projector as HD7300 and not HD7100. I have not had a single lamp strike issue, it has been turned on and off at least 15 times, every night since 10/9/07.

15 times a day !?!?!? HOLY CRAP! Do you realize that doing that majorly cuts down on lamp life ?!?

I have a 7100 hooked up to a DirecTv H20 box and an upconverting dvd player. I'm tempted to get the 7300 packaged with the extra bulb, keep the bulb and scaler, sell the projector. What would the scaler do for my setup that the H20 box and upconverting DVD player don't do? Will it upconvert standard TV signals coming out of the satellite box to 720p or 1080i such as the upconverting DVD player does?

Can anyone answer these questions?

15 times a day !?!?!? HOLY CRAP! Do you realize that doing that majorly cuts down on lamp life ?!?

uh, I think he means he has turned it on\off 15 times total not 15 times a night. Yeah that would be bad for lamp life.....Mr. Smarty Pants. ;)

Mike

uh, I think he means he has turned it on\off 15 times total not 15 times a night. Yeah that would be bad for lamp life.....Mr. Smarty Pants. ;)

Mike

I guess reading the sentance properly the the comma intact makes a difference :). Sorry. Wasn't relaly trying to be a smarty-pants, but I just joined this thread. Give it a little time :D. Thinking of maybe buying an HD7300.

If you buy the 7300, it's going to have the scaler no matter what. That's what makes it the 7300 as opposed to the 7100. The 7100 is the pj by itself. The 7300 is the pj plus the scaler.

Early units were labled 7100 but later were changed to 7300. The scaler has its own ID ad HD-3000. Most likely 7100 has got a FW update.

Can anyone answer these questions?

Yes it does upconvert.
It also convert your analog input to hdmi.
The difference is a better chip used in the box prefereable to the one in your pj.

Caspian, thank you for your reply! It would be great to be able to upconvert poor SD signals to a higher definition. I imagine it won't be as crisp as an upconverted DVD signal, but better all the same.

I have a 7100 hooked up to a DirecTv H20 box and an upconverting dvd player. I'm tempted to get the 7300 packaged with the extra bulb, keep the bulb and scaler, sell the projector. What would the scaler do for my setup that the H20 box and upconverting DVD player don't do? Will it upconvert standard TV signals coming out of the satellite box to 720p or 1080i such as the upconverting DVD player does?

Cowboy,
The scaler is supposed to do the best job at de-interlacing and scaling. It is/was a $2000 MSRP extra cost option over the HD7100 when this unit was released and so should do a better job than your existing equipment. But, technology marches on, so, what was state-of-the-art in mid-2006 may not be anymore. I'll have to search around for more info on this unit (and do my own evaluation) but, it's likely this dedicated unit can do better than your existing equipment.

From the manual:
If possible, use digital output (DVD, D-VHS, DTV setup box, etc). If there is no digital output, use the component output terminals (YPbPr) with short and high-quality components cables.
If you are unsure of the quality of the internal de-interlacing or scaler of your video source, let the HD3000 do the processing by connecting it to the interlaced component output.
If possible, leave out any extra video processing in your video source (DVD, D-VHS, and HDTV STB).
Some HDTV STB models have scaling conversion that will output 1080i from a 720p format. Try to output 1080i in its native signal format and let HD3000 perform deinterlacing and scaling.
Note, I think they swapped the resolutions above and it should really read:
Some HDTV STB models have scaling conversion that will output 720p from a 1080i format. Try to output 1080i in its native signal format and let HD3000 perform deinterlacing and scaling.
Not all HDMI DVD players have a digital interlaced output (480i/576i). For these products, it is suggested that users try 480p/576p first, followed by 720p and 1080i. After viewing the full range of output resolutions, the user can then judge which is the best image quality and set the HD3000 for that resolution.
Many high-end analog output DVD players also come with high quality DAC with 12 or 14 bits of processing. Again, the users should try setting their 480i/576i output to the HD3000 first.
The HD3000 has BNC connectors for component video input. If the user plans to use analog component to connect to their video source, for the best image quality, it is recommend using the BNC connectors.
For connecting to a Laser Disc player or S-VHS deck, we suggest using S-Video output to connect to the HD3000.
It is best to have a separate power outlet for audio and video equipment.

Cowboy - For you, this means,

Set the HR20 to output native and let the HD3000 de-interlace and scale to SD (480i) and 1080i to 720p
DVD player:

Best results will be if you can give it a digital interlaced (480i) output over HDMI. If you cannot output this, try either:
[a] digital 480p over HDMI and only do scaling on HD3000, or
[b] 480i analog component out, with the full-monty de-interlacing AND scaling on the HD3000



BTW, all the manuals are online:
Projector: http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD7300_Manual.pdf
Scaler: http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD-3000_Manual.pdf

Guys the one with free bulb is depleted. But I hear the other one also comes with bulb eventhough it aint saying it.

Will the scaler act as a switcher too? If I have a signal that I do not want altered, can I put it through the scaler unaltered?... or would I have to use an external HDMI switcher? Like if I have a dvd player that has a better scaler built into it than what the HD3000 can do, I don't want the HD3000 making the pic look worse than it should. Didn't someone makes comments that an external switcher screwed up their 7100?

If you put in the format you want out (720p in the case of outputting to the HD7300 PJ), then the HD3000 should not do any scaling, etc. on the signal.

Of course there are tons of other settings in the unit, so there may be other processing going on that you have to disable.

The hd3000 has its shortcomings but I am not complaing. Still a great one and I will use it with my CRT FPJ.
It has no provision for porches which is the main shortcoming. No custom timing at all.
It has no 1908p24 but I will be happy with 1080p48 which is almost the same thing.
I will not do 1080i at all but it accepts it.


Originally I ordered the Sharp 12000MKII but they cancelled my order for over orders.
Now I can cancell this ons as it is not shipped out yet and MKII is avaialble again.
But I feel this is a better deal by far.

Couldn't pass up the deal. I ordered Friday so hopefully it will be here before too long. I have a Optoma H77 now so this may not be a huge upgrade but the free lamp and the scaler sold me. I will be doing a full calibration with the HD7300 and Toshiba HD-A1 player after about a week and could post some numbers if anyone likes to look at that kind of stuff. Speaking of calibration type stuff Tom Huffman found that there is a fully functional CMS system that can be accessed in the HD7300 service menu and using it can produce very accurate color gamut and decoder levels. In fact, it was the most accurate display out of the bunch that he tested which included some high levels Sharp and JVC models.

moe

Couldn't pass up the deal. I ordered Friday so hopefully it will be here before too long. I have a Optoma H77 now so this may not be a huge upgrade but the free lamp and the scaler sold me. I will be doing a full calibration with the HD7300 and Toshiba HD-A1 player after about a week and could post some numbers if anyone likes to look at that kind of stuff. Speaking of calibration type stuff Tom Huffman found that their is a fully functional CMS system that can be accessed in the HD7300 service menu and using it can produce very accurate color gamut and decoder levels. In fact, it was the most accurate display out of the bunch that he tested which included some high levels Sharp and JVC models.

moe

Aloha Zipplemeyer,

I would love to see your calibration numbers!!! And before anyone yells at me--I know everyone has a different room and all, but they would be a good starting point.

Look forward to seeing what you come up with for numbers.

Mahalo,

bdbaba

Cowboy - For you, this means,

Set the HR20 to output native and let the HD3000 de-interlace and scale to SD (480i) and 1080i to 720p
DVD player:

Best results will be if you can give it a digital interlaced (480i) output over HDMI. If you cannot output this, try either:
[a] digital 480p over HDMI and only do scaling on HD3000, or
[b] 480i analog component out, with the full-monty de-interlacing AND scaling on the HD3000



BTW, all the manuals are online:
Projector: http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD7300_Manual.pdf
Scaler: http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD-3000_Manual.pdf

Hey Steve,

So just to get this straight--using the scaler, I would set my Oppo 970 to 480i. I would then set my Time Warner SA8300 box to 1080i for HD channels, and 480i for regular channels.

Aren't some HD channels broadcast in 720P? How do you know, and I assume those should be set to 720P?

Thanks,

bdbaba

The manual says to use "native" so the HR20 does NO de-interlacing or scaling.

720p channels do not have to be processed (Fox, ESPN, ...)
1080i channels get de-interlaced & scaled down
480i channels get de-interlaced & scaled up

The Oppo is a pretty good player so experiment to see what's best. I think this specific player can output digital 480i over HDMI, so try that and comapre with having it output 720p and decide what you like best.

Here is a question I have been pondering to answer maybe Steve can shed some light.
with 1080i source from D*Tv, how does HD3000 will do the downconvert to 720? will it do a 540p and then or else?

Guys the one with free bulb is depleted. But I hear the other one also comes with bulb eventhough it aint saying it.

Are you sure about this CaspianM?

Can anyone else confirm that the listing that is not sold out does indeed
come with the extra lamp?

I need to jump on this if it does indeed come with the extra bulb.
I was not ready to buy a pj yet, maybe another month or so, but this deal is way too good to pass up.

stevereis can answer that for you . He bought the other package.

Are you sure about this CaspianM?

Can anyone else confirm that the listing that is not sold out does indeed
come with the extra lamp?

I need to jump on this if it does indeed come with the extra bulb.
I was not ready to buy a pj yet, maybe another month or so, but this deal is way too good to pass up.


stevereis can answer that for you . He bought the other package.

Hey stevereis, I was hoping you'd chime in here tonight so I could put an order in for this before it's too late.;) Thanks.:)

Read post #987.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=684575&page=33

Hey stevereis, I was hoping you'd chime in here tonight so I could put an order in for this before it's too late.;) Thanks.:)

Steve definitely said he got the lamp using that other link.

I called Optoma and Newegg about it. The person at Newegg had no idea and sent me to Optoma. The guy at Optoma said he did not know for sure either and said i should order the one with the lamp just to be sure.

Not sure if this helps much.

Thanks guys, post #987 does indeed confirm. Now just to decide once and for all to finally squeeze the trigger.

The manual says to use "native" so the HR20 does NO de-interlacing or scaling.

720p channels do not have to be processed (Fox, ESPN, ...)
1080i channels get de-interlaced & scaled down
480i channels get de-interlaced & scaled up

The Oppo is a pretty good player so experiment to see what's best. I think this specific player can output digital 480i over HDMI, so try that and comapre with having it output 720p and decide what you like best.

Thanks Steve.

So I have a question about the lens shift. I have a shelf mount that is about 7'4" high. I was planning on just putting this PJ on its feet and using the lens shift. Is this not possible? I could invert it if needed. Since you have one in hand, I was hoping you could answer this definitively. Those "10% above the centerline divided by lens height" problems are twisting my over taxed grey matter at the moment.

Thanks,

bdbaba

How far back is the shelf and what screen size? This is not the best pj for rear shelf install.

How far back is the shelf and what screen size? This is not the best pj for rear shelf install.

The lens would be about 14' 5" with a 122" diagonal screen.

Just figured this out.

Are you sure about this CaspianM?

Can anyone else confirm that the listing that is not sold out does indeed
come with the extra lamp?

I need to jump on this if it does indeed come with the extra bulb.
I was not ready to buy a pj yet, maybe another month or so, but this deal is way too good to pass up.

As my previous post said, I bought from the link w/o the lamp (did not see the lamp offer until too late) but I did get he lamp.

The lens would be about 14' 5" with a 122" diagonal screen.

Just figured this out.
From what I understand the shift is good for widest setting. As you zoom you will limit the shift function to nill.
Look up the manual and use the Optoma's own calc for more detail.

From what I understand the shift is good for widest setting. As you zoom you will limit the shift function to nill.
Look up the manual and use the Optoma's own calc for more detail.

I tried using that manual, but "me sore brain" is so slow!

When you say zooming will limit the shift, what does that mean? If you use the lens shift, you can't zoom the lens in and out?

I think shift range varies depending on the zoom setting.
There is a point that there would not be any shifting possible.
That is most likely when you have the zoom at max (narrowest setting).

I tried using that manual, but "me sore brain" is so slow!

When you say zooming will limit the shift, what does that mean? If you use the lens shift, you can't zoom the lens in and out?
See P. 23 in the manual. Interpolating between the 106" and 133" screen sizes listed to your 122" says distance should be between approx 12'2" - 15'2". Lower edge of image will be ~5' down from lens center or about 2'7" off the floow (+ 3" for lens position), if the PJ is level.

Here is a question I have been pondering to answer maybe Steve can shed some light.
with 1080i source from D*Tv, how does HD3000 will do the downconvert to 720? will it do a 540p and then or else?
That's the cheap and dirty way of doing it. The reason you get a scaler like this is to de-interlace to 1080p30 and then scale to 720p. Not sure how this is done in practice (just replicate frames to get 720p60?).

Does anyone have details on the HD3000 and it's processing?

That's the cheap and dirty way of doing it. The reason you get a scaler like this is to de-interlace to 1080p30 and then scale to 720p. Not sure how this is done in practice (just replicate frames to get 720p60?).

Does anyone have details on the HD3000 and it's processing?

Thanks Caspian and Steve,

I knew I should not have taken more Math in College. I think it will work if I lower my mount a few inches, but I am still not sure. I guess I will have to get it in the house.

Here is a limited discussion on HD3000.
Do a google on Gennum gf9351 will bring some info.
Or just gennum get to the source.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=690384

So what is the offset of the pj?
Can some one help me with a little math. I want to know exactly where on the wall the image will be.
I'll have a 100" (diagonal) image (87 x 49).
The top of the image will need to be 15" down from the ceiling.
According to the Projection Calculator, the farthest back that I can put the lens is 11'10", so that is where I want it.
I have a drop ceiling so I 'm gonna push the pj all the way up to the ceiling.
Am I gonna need lens shift in this situation? Is this do-able?
Thanks for any help.

Here is a question I have been pondering to answer maybe Steve can shed some light.
with 1080i source from D*Tv, how does HD3000 will do the downconvert to 720? will it do a 540p and then or else?
CaspianM - found the answer in the thread you provided:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7999889#post7999889

True deinterlacing & scaling, no rescaling of a 540 line field.

So what is the offset of the pj?
Can some one help me with a little math. I want to know exactly where on the wall the image will be.
I'll have a 100" (diagonal) image (87 x 49).
The top of the image will need to be 15" down from the ceiling.
According to the Projection Calculator, the farthest back that I can put the lens is 11'10", so that is where I want it.
I have a drop ceiling so I 'm gonna push the pj all the way up to the ceiling.
Am I gonna need lens shift in this situation? Is this do-able?
Thanks for any help.

Manual says roughly half the image height (25" in your case), so you should be OK.

Here is a limited discussion on HD3000.
Do a google on Gennum gf9351 will bring some info.
Or just gennum get to the source.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=690384

So do you think the ones coming with this PJ have the GF9350 VXP or the 9351, and how can you tell?

So do you think the ones coming with this PJ have the GF9350 VXP or the 9351, and how can you tell?

I was just going to ask the same thing.

Manual says roughly half the image height (25" in your case), so you should be OK.

Thanks.
So will I be able to use the lens shift to get from 25" to 15"?

Thanks.
So will I be able to use the lens shift to get from 25" to 15"?

25" is the MAX shift possible for you, so you can shift 15" with no problem.

So do you think the ones coming with this PJ have the GF9350 VXP or the 9351, and how can you tell?

Gitarman said only earlier batch had the 50 which was replaced with 51 later.

The shift range is 13/20 times the screen hight (H) for up and 1/2xH for down shift.
At neutral (no shift applied) it has zero degree offset meaning the top of the image is line up with center of the lens when ceiling mounted.
Horizontal is 3/40xH for each side.

Smarty,
If pj is 15" above the screen you will need to shift down the image by 15" from null.
1/2 of 49" is 24.5" hence it is doable.

So do you think the ones coming with this PJ have the GF9350 VXP or the 9351, and how can you tell?

Remove the top cover and look if there's no sticker to be broken voiding warranty.

Can anybody please confirm that the processor that comes with the HD7300 is NOT limited to 720p output and can be set to 1080p output?

Can anybody please confirm that the processor that comes with the HD7300 is NOT limited to 720p output and can be set to 1080p output?
The manual says this:

The following are the resolutions and frequencies the HD3000 can output:

1280x720p 50/60/72 Hz (default 60Hz)
1024x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for some 16x9 Plasma TVs)
1280x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for LCD TV and plasma TV)
1366x768p 50/60 Hz (Native resolution for 16x9 plasma TV)
1920x1080p 48/50/60 Hz


I need to actually crack mine open and confirm the settings are there but will not be able to do this until the weekend. I'll have to validate on my 1080p TV since the PJ is only 720p. (I'll be contacting Optoma for an update if mine cannot do 1080p60.)

Any link to all the updates?

Hello, I have been reading this thread page for 10 days now, I´m in Spain and I bought 2 weeks ago the Optoma HD7300, I just received it last friday, I hooked up everything up and it was working fine but I have PAL 50 HZ, and the projector with the scaler were working at 60 HZ, I disconected the scaler and hooked my dvd player straight to the projector and it worked perfectly, through component and composite signal. beautiful picture, it was amazing, it really surprised me. after this I found out that my Vincent dvd palyer has progressive scanning.

now I when back and hooked up again the scaler and the projector dont find anything with the DVI INPUT.I took the scaler to my lcd tv and hook the scaler with another dvd palyer (composite) and the tv don´t find anything in HDMI input.

can anybody help me how to fix this problem, why I don´t get any signal from the scaler..

sorry for my mistakes.

Thank you.

The unit bundled with the 7100 is only 720p Read the HD3000 thread

mkoss, could you please point us to where you have read that? I have read the "Optoma HD3000 with Gennum solution review" thread, under video processors forum, and could not find it.

I assume that when you say "the unit bundled with the HD7100" you mean the processor that comes with the HD7300, right?

Hello, I have been reading this thread page for 10 days now, I´m in Spain and I bought 2 weeks ago the Optoma HD7300, I just received it last friday, I hooked up everything up and it was working fine but I have PAL 50 HZ, and the projector with the scaler were working at 60 HZ, I disconected the scaler and hooked my dvd player straight to the projector and it worked perfectly, through component and composite signal. beautiful picture, it was amazing, it really surprised me. after this I found out that my Vincent dvd palyer has progressive scanning.

now I when back and hooked up again the scaler and the projector dont find anything with the DVI INPUT.I took the scaler to my lcd tv and hook the scaler with another dvd palyer (composite) and the tv don´t find anything in HDMI input.

can anybody help me how to fix this problem, why I don´t get any signal from the scaler..

sorry for my mistakes.

Thank you.

Read the manual on how to manually adjust the output resolutions with the silver buttons on the front of the scaler. Don't just start hitting the buttons read the manual for the correct sequence.

The prodical son returns... :)
Guitarman, do you have anything further to add to the discussion? Your association and experience with Optoma is priceless to us. What do you think about wether or not the processors from Newegg are limited to 720p or not? Are you still in posession of the projector and processor?... or are they long gone?

Thank you for the respond guitarman, you have one of this scaler also right..that´s what i did, I pressed the up botton and wait a few seconds and nothing, anyway I´m going to install my projector tomorrow, I just ordered a 10 meters component cable and when I have everything hooked up nicely I will play with it with no fear, after all I read in this page I was so worried about my projector that I did not want to mess with it. this has been the last part of my home cinema, when I have everything hooked I try to post some pictures.

this is in the european intructions:
Use the front panel control buttons, press “_” key one at a time. Each pressing of the
HD3000 will change its output resolution from the table shown above. Please allow for a few
seconds for display to try to lock on to the changed output resolution.

What key is "_", is this the down key?

So what is the offset of the pj?
Can some one help me with a little math. I want to know exactly where on the wall the image will be.
I'll have a 100" (diagonal) image (87 x 49).
The top of the image will need to be 15" down from the ceiling.
According to the Projection Calculator, the farthest back that I can put the lens is 11'10", so that is where I want it.
I have a drop ceiling so I 'm gonna push the pj all the way up to the ceiling.
Am I gonna need lens shift in this situation? Is this do-able?
Thanks for any help.

You will need to mount the projector 15 inches down from the ceiling and use maximum lens shift. With no lens shift, the center of the picture will line up with the center of the lens. See page 22 of the user manual and the post below.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11033860#post11033860

You will need to mount the projector 15 inches down from the ceiling and use maximum lens shift. With no lens shift, the center of the picture will line up with the center of the lens. See page 22 of the user manual and the post below.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11033860#post11033860


The whole advantage of lens shift flexibility of pj installation.
With that in mind, why does he need to install the pj 15" down from the ceiling and use no lens shift when he can do exactly the opposite?:)

You will need to mount the projector 15 inches down from the ceiling and use maximum lens shift. With no lens shift, the center of the picture will line up with the center of the lens. ...[/url]
This isn't true is it??? I thought a ceiling mounted 71/7300 would have the lens center about even with or a couple of inches above the top of the image or the opposite for table mount. If the neutral position is center of lens= center of image/screen, that's about a deal breaker for me. Can someone confirm??

Cheers!

I would think it is zero offset or lined up with the top of the image witout any shift.
I do not have any hands on experience with this pj so if someone who has this pj would be nice to clear up this issue. And what would be the case with shift all the way up in ceiling position. where would be the lens with respect to screen onto a 110" diag screen.

I would think it is zero offset or lined up with the top of the image witout any shift.
I do not have any hands on experience with this pj so if someone who has this pj would be nice to clear up this issue. And what would be the case with shift all the way up in ceiling position. where would be the lens with respect to screen onto a 110" diag screen.

See pages 21-23 of the manual.
http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD7300_Manual.pdf

In the manual it does not say what the default (no lens shift) offset is.
Did you find out?
On line calc says the min (with shift all the way up) vertical distance between the lens center to the top of the image is 6" in ceiling mount. But not really certain now.

From what I can interprate, I think the center of the lens is to be in line with the top of the screen (with no lens shift). From there, if you need to use lens shift, you have 50% of the image height to play with. So if your image is 50" tall, then you could move the image 25" up or 25" down.
I THINK that's how it should work.

mkoss, could you please point us to where you have read that? I have read the "Optoma HD3000 with Gennum solution review" thread, under video processors forum, and could not find it.

I assume that when you say "the unit bundled with the HD7100" you mean the processor that comes with the HD7300, right?

Read threads 48,67 and 75 under the hd3000. On second reading I'm not sure what these mean for the newer units. Maybe guitarman can elucidate more on this.

From what I can interprate, I think the center of the lens is to be in line with the top of the screen (with no lens shift). From there, if you need to use lens shift, you have 50% of the image height to play with. So if your image is 50" tall, then you could move the image 25" up or 25" down.
I THINK that's how it should work.


We already know that upshift is 13/20 of the screen hight. That is .65 of the hight. Down shift is 1/2 of the hight.
What we do not know for sure is the off set at default with no lens shift to be used as a reference point.

Newegg deal is no more. Both 7300s are out of stock now. :(

Newegg deal is no more. Both 7300s are out of stock now. :(
Yea, I found that out too... right after they charged my credit card. I'm pretty upset about them canceling my order AFTER charging my card. I'm waiting on a phone call from a supervisor now.

George

Yea, I found that out too... right after they charged my credit card. I'm pretty upset about them canceling my order AFTER charging my card. I'm waiting on a phone call from a supervisor now.

George
I now see that they are expecting more stock on 11/6 on the ...9047 item. Why cancel my order? Why not notify me that there will be a delay?

I expect better service than this from NewEgg.

George

That is unusual. I have never had anything but perfect service from Newegg for other electronics purchases.

I wonder if Optoma will extend the $200 rebate if they will send more PJ's through Newegg in November. Wasn't the rebate only good through tomorrow? (10/31)

They usually just reissue/extend the rebate or even add something else to sweeten the pot sometimes. So the rebate should be back.

That is unusual. I have never had anything but perfect service from Newegg for other electronics purchases.

I wonder if Optoma will extend the $200 rebate if they will send more PJ's through Newegg in November. Wasn't the rebate only good through tomorrow? (10/31)
I agree, NewEgg has always been rock solid in my experience. The rebate expiring also has me concerned.

They shouldn't have canceled my order without notifying me first and giving me the option of waiting a week to have my order fulfilled. I would gladly choose that over missing out on the rebate.

I'm now concerned I will not be able to order within the rebate restrictions. Waiting a week is a non-issue for me.

George

IThey shouldn't have canceled my order without notifying me first and giving me the option of waiting a week to have my order fulfilled. I would gladly choose that over missing out on the rebate.

I'm now concerned I will not be able to order within the rebate restrictions. Waiting a week is a non-issue for me.

George
That wouldn't have been possible because no sales proof can be generated now without the item to be shipped. They often need serial# for the receipt.

That wouldn't have been possible because no sales proof can be generated now without the item to be shipped. They often need serial# for the receipt.
Funny then that they had enough information to charge my credit card.

I'm just going to sit tight and see what happens. I never received the call from the supervisor as promised.

Unfortunately, once they processed my order (by charging my credit card), I started arrangements to sell my current projector as well as other equipment/accessories purchases to support this specific projector purchase. I'm not very happy about that at all.

George

So we do not have owners reading this site tonight to post their finding about the offset?

So we do not have owners reading this site tonight to post their finding about the offset?

I am really interested in this as well.

Ordered this weekend and still in step 1. How about you guys? Has anyone's been shipped?

Ordered this weekend and still in step 1. How about you guys? Has anyone's been shipped?

Really?!! I placed my order on Sat morning.
it is showing on UPS tracking has arrived locally awaiting delievery tomorrow.

Ordered this weekend and still in step 1. How about you guys? Has anyone's been shipped?

Ordered mine Friday night. showing in transit and in Philadelphia. Should have it Thursday. I may have 1 for sale since I have 2 pj's now. So pm me if your interested. I only need to break even on this.

Step 1 means they have not charged you yet!
Better call them up for a follow up.

Ordered mine Friday night. showing in transit and in Philadelphia. Should have it Thursday. I may have 1 for sale since I have 2 pj's now. So pm me if your interested. I only need to break even on this.

You'll have two 7300s ???

The manual says this:

The following are the resolutions and frequencies the HD3000 can output:

1280x720p 50/60/72 Hz (default 60Hz)
1024x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for some 16x9 Plasma TVs)
1280x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for LCD TV and plasma TV)
1366x768p 50/60 Hz (Native resolution for 16x9 plasma TV)
1920x1080p 48/50/60 Hz


I need to actually crack mine open and confirm the settings are there but will not be able to do this until the weekend. I'll have to validate on my 1080p TV since the PJ is only 720p. (I'll be contacting Optoma for an update if mine cannot do 1080p60.)

Can anybody please confirm that the processor that comes with the HD7300 is NOT limited to 720p output and can be set to 1080i/p output?

Can anybody please confirm that the processor that comes with the HD7300 is NOT limited to 720p output and can be set to 1080i/p output?

Common, there must be a user of the HD7300 projector/processor that has tried/could try this out. It would only take a couple of minutes to just go to the output menu and check if it can select 1080i or 1080p output. If it can, then the processor should send a 1080i or 1080p signal to the projector. The HD7300 is compatible with a 1080i signal and will display the signal and, for a few seconds, the signal information at the lower right hand corner.
Can a HD7300 projector/processor user please confirm??
Thanks a bunch. :)

Hey stevereis,

Could you let us know what the offset is a neutral? Is it center lens to center screen or center lens to top of screen?

Thanks Mate,

bdbaba

this is in the european intructions:
Use the front panel control buttons, press “_” key one at a time. Each pressing of the
HD3000 will change its output resolution from the table shown above. Please allow for a few
seconds for display to try to lock on to the changed output resolution.

What key is "_", is this the down key?

I have lurked at the HD3000 manual (Optoma web site) and it refers to the "up" key in the front panel for changing the output resolution. I believe this is so even though you are working with PAL signals and 50hz frequency.

Good luck.

FGM,
I do not think it will output 1080i. It takes it and will deinterlace it to 1080p. No 1080i outout but yes 1080p 48 and 60 hz.

Ordered this weekend and still in step 1. How about you guys? Has anyone's been shipped?

Hi, are you sure you did not get a message saying something was wrong with charging your card?

Ordered Sunday night and got an immediate e-mail with confirmation, followed by one that said they could not charge my card. I called them Monday, they tried charging three times, I called the bank, made sure there was no flagging going on, finally gave up on that card and provided a different one. That went through in minutes and today I saw my tracking number and the shipment is on its way to Mckinney.

mkoss, looks like you and I did not miss out on this one. Another 7100 will be on the auction block shortly.

Ordered mine Friday night. showing in transit and in Philadelphia. Should have it Thursday. I may have 1 for sale since I have 2 pj's now. So pm me if your interested. I only need to break even on this.

Where did yours ship from? Mine is shipping from Long Beach, CA.

This was my backup if newegg sold out...

http://www.buy.com/prod/-1-hd7300-1-blfp250a/q/loc/101/206132105.html


But now I think all these guys use the same warehouse...

Hey stevereis,

Could you let us know what the offset is a neutral? Is it center lens to center screen or center lens to top of screen?

Thanks Mate,

bdbaba
See p. 22 in the manual (bottom of page): http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD7300_Manual.pdf
With no offset applied, image is symmetric around lens center. So, you can move up 65% of image height (+13/20v) or down 50% (-1/2v) from this. Note the recommendation for the extreme vertical shift is to have no left/right shift per the diagram shown. I just did a quick quick and this corresponds to what I see (rough eyeball w/ a sheet of paper held edge on to the PJ).

So, at neutral, center of lens is center of screen. The "side view" image shown on the same page then would not be at neutral offset but something more like +9/20v offset.

Does this answer the question?

This was my backup if newegg sold out...

http://www.buy.com/prod/-1-hd7300-1-blfp250a/q/loc/101/206132105.html


But now I think all these guys use the same warehouse...

Hey Gireesh,

I checked over at buy.com as well, however, they said they had no rebate for the PJ. Strange.

I just instant messaged Newegg. They said that they supposedly called me to confirm my payment info. I have an answering machine, and there was no message, so i kind of doubt it. I am supposed to call tomorrow when they are open. I hope they did not screw me up here. Hopefully mine is waiting in the warehouse somwhere as they have my credit card info and all looks normal on the order page. We shall see.

bdbaba

See p. 22 in the manual (bottom of page): http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/usermanuals/Optoma_HD7300_Manual.pdf
With no offset applied, image is symmetric around lens center. So, you can move up 65% of image height (+13/20v) or down 50% (-1/2v) from this. Note the recommendation for the extreme vertical shift is to have no left/right shift per the diagram shown. I just did a quick quick and this corresponds to what I see (rough eyeball w/ a sheet of paper held edge on to the PJ).

So, at neutral, center of lens is center of screen. The "side view" image shown on the same page then would not be at neutral offset but something more like +9/20v offset.

Does this answer the question?

Wow! That makes the lens shift almost useless, no? This PJ might not work for me after all. It seems that you would need to have the PJ almost level with the center of the screen, or just a couple feet higher or lower. That is very low.

How high do you have yours mounted? Is it on its feet or inverted?

Thanks so much. Maybe them screwing up my order is a blessing in disguise.

bdbaba

Hi, are you sure you did not get a message saying something was wrong with charging your card?

Ordered Sunday night and got an immediate e-mail with confirmation, followed by one that said they could not charge my card. I called them Monday, they tried charging three times, I called the bank, made sure there was no flagging going on, finally gave up on that card and provided a different one. That went through in minutes and today I saw my tracking number and the shipment is on its way to Mckinney.

mkoss, looks like you and I did not miss out on this one. Another 7100 will be on the auction block shortly.
I had an issue w/charging the card as well. NewEgg sent me e-mails of at least 3 mis-fires and my CC company called with a fraud alert. I ordered Sunday 10/21 and confirmed the charge with the CC Tuesday.

I got mine last Friday but my status still shows me at step #3. Is this going to cause issues with the rebate? I printed the "receipt" when I ordered but that shows at step #1. Do I need a full invoice, showing product shipment for the rebate?

Also, is anyone sure as to what UPC you use for the rebate? The one on the combo box, the one on the PJ box inside, or both of those plus the one on the scaler box? I guess I'll just go ahead and send all of them to be sure...

Steve,
You have the pj. When you have it in neutral what is the offset?
The reason... I cannot believe the manual nor what Optoma told me on the phone.
He said 7300 has 36% offset in neutral which doesn't check with manual.

Oh he said 36% offset equals to about 18" from the lens to the top in ceiling.
With shift all the way up would be a few inches down from the lens.

Totally different from the manual!!

Wow, looks like some have a projector (at least waiting) but no payment, I made payment but no projector ;(

So sad...

Luck all,
George

This is a really crude drawing of the range of projections that I see. I can go from where the bottom of the image is at the lens center to the top of the image is at the lens center. This is all approximate, done by holding a sheet of paper edge on to the projection.

bdbaba - you said you had a 7'4" shelf. Adding 3" for PJ height gives 7'7". Now, where do you need the image to be on the wall? (I think your image height was 50" but I need to go back and check earlier posts.)

This is a really crude drawing of the range of projections that I see. I can go from where the bottom of the image is at the lens center to the top of the image is at the lens center. This is all approximate, done by holding a sheet of paper edge on to the projection.

bdbaba - you said you had a 7'4" shelf. Adding 3" for PJ height gives 7'7". Now, where do you need the image to be on the wall? (I think your image height was 50" but I need to go back and check earlier posts.)

My image height is 60". I am thinking of using a piece of DW laminate, which comes in a 5 foot--60"--by 12 foot sheet.

Again, I can lower my shelf about 6 inches or so, but i do not want to lower it too much, or people that are tallewr then me will hit there heads on it when they walk by. I will also need about 3 to 4 inches of the horizontal shift as well if possible.

This is a really crude drawing of the range of projections that I see. I can go from where the bottom of the image is at the lens center to the top of the image is at the lens center. This is all approximate, done by holding a sheet of paper edge on to the projection.

bdbaba - you said you had a 7'4" shelf. Adding 3" for PJ height gives 7'7". Now, where do you need the image to be on the wall? (I think your image height was 50" but I need to go back and check earlier posts.)

Wow!! That is a good range. Basically you can shift the entire image all the way up or down!
Thank you!

My image height is 60". I am thinking of using a piece of DW laminate, which comes in a 5 foot--60"--by 12 foot sheet.

Again, I can lower my shelf about 6 inches or so, but i do not want to lower it too much, or people that are taller than me will hit there heads on it when they walk by. I will also need about 3 to 4 inches of the horizontal shift as well if possible.
At max depression(negative offset), you can get the top of the image to line up with the lens center. If you want to use H offset, you should plan on using less V shift. Based on the drawing, you only have ~8" of H offset to play with , so if you use 1/2 that (4"), you should only use 1/2 the V offset.

At max depression(negative offset), you can get the top of the image to line up with the lens center.


Thank you again.:)

At max depression(negative offset), you can get the top of the image to line up with the lens center. If you want to use H offset, you should plan on using less V shift. Based on the drawing, you only have ~8" of H offset to play with , so if you use 1/2 that (4"), you should only use 1/2 the V offset.

Aloha Steve,

Thanks for letting me use your "Big Brain" as compared to my "Mad Cow Brain!"
I truly appreciate it. It seems that i can make this work if i futz around a bit. Now to see if Newegg jipped me out of my PJ. Have to wait until the phone call tomorrow AM.

Have a great night out there on the mainland.

Bdbaba

FGM,
I do not think it will output 1080i. It takes it and will deinterlace it to 1080p. No 1080i outout but yes 1080p 48 and 60 hz.

CaspianM,
Thanks for your response. Are you saying that you processor has successfully put out 1080p?

I'm still not quite crystal clear on understanding the lens shift. Is the neutral position (no lens shift) in the middle of the screen??
If so, and if the pj is ceiling mounted, then is it true that with the virtical lens shift maxed out, the lens will have to be even with the top of the screen?
I was hoping to put the lens about 13-15" above the top of the screen.
Thanks

Huh- this info on the offset surprises me. So no one has this projector ceiling mounted where the lens center is higher than the top of the image? My lens center would be about ~8" higher than the top of my 45" tall screen. I would have to tilt down and keystone then? Hmmmm...

Remember the shift UP is .65H. When you ceiling mount upside down, that becomes the shift DOWN. So, you can go 0.15H past having the image line up w/lens center. For a 45" screen H, this is 6 3/4". Beyond that, you have to tilt & correct in keystone.

It can be higher the top edge.
In neutral (based on Steve sketches) it is in the middle.
But you can shift it down 13/20 of the screen hight which 65% of the hight.
Another words the top of the screen will be lower that mid lens by 15% of the screen hight.
A 100" diag screen 16x9 has a 49" hight. 15% of that is 7.35". That is where the top of the screen would be (below the lens.)
Now that is based on the assumption the in neutral the lens is halfly located vs the screen hight.

FGM, I cannot confirm anything yet.

Thanks stevereis and CaspianM. I think I've got it now. :)

I was typing while Steve posted. Pretty much the same thing.

Just called Newegg. My order has passed inspection and it is good to go. Phew!

Thanks stevereis and CaspianM. I think I've got it now. :)
Ditto- thanks for the clarification... It should work with my setup.

Cheers!

I wonder if Optoma will extend the $200 rebate if they will send more PJ's through Newegg in November. Wasn't the rebate only good through tomorrow? (10/31)
The vendors such as Visual Apex and Newegg still list the $200 rebate as being through 10/31. If you go to Optoma's website- both rebate forms (71 & 7300) now show for purchases between 10/1 and 11/30. That is good news for anyone who is getting invoiced later this week. I hope the info that says Newegg may get more of them in early November is accurate. Maybe that will be my final shove forcing me to get off the pot on an upgrade.

I am seeing these short throw DLP's (71/7300 Optoma, Marantz VP4001, Sharp DT-500's) all disappearing and no new ones coming on the market. Could spell DLP doom for those of us with a short throw limitation. Ughh... LCD? :p

The vendors such as Visual Apex and Newegg still list the $200 rebate as being through 10/31. If you go to Optoma's website- both rebate forms (71 & 7300) now show for purchases between 10/1 and 11/30. That is good news for anyone who is getting invoiced later this week. I hope the info that says Newegg may get more of them in early November is accurate. Maybe that will be my final shove forcing me to get off the pot on an upgrade.

I am seeing these short throw DLP's (71/7300 Optoma, Marantz VP4001, Sharp DT-500's) all disappearing and no new ones coming on the market. Could spell DLP doom for those of us with a short throw limitation. Ughh... LCD? :p
Nice catch on the updated dates for the rebate, thanks for the information.

George

You'll have two 7300s ???

1 7100 + 1 7300 = 2 x 7100 + 1 hd3000

1 7100 + 1 7300 = 2 x 7100 + 1 hd3000

Where is the extra bulb?:)

It can be higher the top edge.
In neutral (based on Steve sketches) it is in the middle.
But you can shift it down 13/20 of the screen hight which 65% of the hight.
Another words the top of the screen will be lower that mid lens by 15% of the screen hight.
A 100" diag screen 16x9 has a 49" hight. 15% of that is 7.35". That is where the top of the screen would be (below the lens.)
Now that is based on the assumption the in neutral the lens is halfly located vs the screen hight.

FGM, I cannot confirm anything yet.

Hey Guys,

Instead of lens shifting wouldn't it be better to ceiling mount projector with a drop down pole? Has anybody gotten this from newegg besides Steve yet?

Thanks,
Mike

Hey Guys,

Instead of lens shifting wouldn't it be better to ceiling mount projector with a drop down pole? Has anybody gotten this from newegg besides Steve yet?

Thanks,
Mike

Sure, that's an option if you have the space to do so. A lot of people can't do that if their ceiling is only 7-8' tall. My ceiling in my finished basement where my theater is going, is 6'10" tall... and the pj will be 1-2' in front of the couch. If I lower the pj down from the ceiling, I would hit my head on the pj everytime I stand up from the couch (I'm 6'5" tall). ...and no, I'm not going to duck around it everytime like I'm ducking for cover in a war zone or something. So for those that have the placement flexability to lower the pj down from the ceiling, that is definately an option for them... and yes, I am envious of those who can :).

Sure, that's an option if you have the space to do so. A lot of people can't do that if their ceiling is only 7-8' tall. My ceiling in my finished basement where my theater is going, is 6'10" tall... and the pj will be 1-2' in front of the couch. If I lower the pj down from the ceiling, I would hit my head on the pj everytime I stand up from the couch (I'm 6'5" tall). ...and no, I'm not going to duck around it everytime like I'm ducking for cover in a war zone or something. So for those that have the placement flexability to lower the pj down from the ceiling, that is definately an option for them... and yes, I am envious of those who can :).

Ok, that makes sense. I wouldn't want it low enough to hit my head on either. I just thought for people where ceiling height wasn't an issue they would want to use a pole for ceiling mounting.

Mike

Projectors I am considering: Optoma HD80, Optoma 7100\7300, Sharp XVZ12000 Mark II, Marantz VP12S4, BenQ 8720, W9000, W10000..still deciding..
Mike

I one time or another looked at most of these. Certainly you need to make the choice. But for the price of some of these I got 2 projectors, 1 scaler, 1 free bulb, 2 rebates, extended warranties for both projector and bulbs which means I can get a lot of mileage out of this sucker without any worry.

My ceiling in my finished basement where my theater is going, is 6'10" tall... and the pj will be 1-2' in front of the couch. If I lower the pj down from the ceiling, I would hit my head on the pj everytime I stand up from the couch (I'm 6'5" tall). .... I think you already have yerself a predicament there Smarty... 5" from the tip of yer noggin to the ceiling and a projector that is over 5" tall. That to me spells noggin bonkin even if the PJ was flush mounted, which I don't think would be best due to heat buildup. Just a thought.... I'm no expert though.

Cheers! :)

I think you already have yerself a predicament there Smarty... 5" from the tip of yer noggin to the ceiling and a projector that is over 5" tall. That to me spells noggin bonkin even if the PJ was flush mounted, which I don't think would be best due to heat buildup. Just a thought.... I'm no expert though.

Cheers! :)

Well, it's a drop ceiling so... I can push the pj up as far as possible as long as the lens is exposed, and the air flow is no prob since there is space above the ceiling within the floor joists. Also at the end of the floor joists to the right of the pj the space up there is OPEN to a workshop area, so if need be I can put a fan inbetween those floor joists and blow the air into the workshop. 5" from my noggin' is no problem for me as long as I can walk underneith it ok. This whole thing has been a big "predicament from the beginning since I started planning it about 2 years ago. Financial hardship struck a while back and my HT fund went out the window, but now I'm back baby and it's time to finish this sucker. I could not make up my mind to order the 7300 when it was in stock, but now I know for sure that if it comes back in stock I'm definately going to squeeze the trigger this time.:)

Where did yours ship from? Mine is shipping from Long Beach, CA.

same place

I one time or another looked at most of these. Certainly you need to make the choice. But for the price of some of these I got 2 projectors, 1 scaler, 1 free bulb, 2 rebates, extended warranties for both projector and bulbs which means I can get a lot of mileage out of this sucker without any worry.


Yeah, I really want 1080p DLP but it is hard not to look at the great deals on the DC3 720p's. If newegg gets the 7300 combo back in I might have to go that route since its at least 1/2 as much as the 1080p DLP's I am looking at.

Mike

Sounds like quite the ride Smarty... I hope it works out.

I am priming the wife for if they come back to Newegg or a similar deal elsewhere, I'm moving on one. We'll see how much pull I really have around here soon. :o

That quality of optics, no reported startup issues from 7300 owners for some reason, tons of inputs on the scaler, and not having to run a bunch of new 25' cables up into the ceiling? Worth every penny of that ~Grover Cleveland after rebate. :)

Cheers!

Couldn't pass up the deal. I ordered Friday so hopefully it will be here before too long. I have a Optoma H77 now so this may not be a huge upgrade but the free lamp and the scaler sold me. I will be doing a full calibration with the HD7300 and Toshiba HD-A1 player after about a week and could post some numbers if anyone likes to look at that kind of stuff. Speaking of calibration type stuff Tom Huffman found that there is a fully functional CMS system that can be accessed in the HD7300 service menu and using it can produce very accurate color gamut and decoder levels. In fact, it was the most accurate display out of the bunch that he tested which included some high levels Sharp and JVC models.

moe

where you located in Mass?

We have to thank Stevereis for posting this find. This thread was silent for a while. Now we will have enough 7300's to post any problems with the bulb issue

Sounds like quite the ride Smarty... I hope it works out.

I am priming the wife for if they come back to Newegg or a similar deal elsewhere, I'm moving on one. We'll see how much pull I really have around here soon. :o

That quality of optics, no reported startup issues from 7300 owners for some reason, tons of inputs on the scaler, and not having to run a bunch of new 25' cables up into the ceiling? Worth every penny of that ~Grover Cleveland after rebate. :)

Cheers!

Well, this wife here knows that a pj purchase has lurking and itching to be made, so... I may go with the "I had to buy it hun, because it's such a killer deal and they would have sold out if I didn't buy it right away" explanation.:cool:;)

Well, this wife here knows that a pj purchase has lurking and itching to be made, so... I may go with the "I had to buy it hun, because it's such a killer deal and they would have sold out if I didn't buy it right away" explanation.:cool:;)

I feel for you guys. I am very lucky, and my wife actually told me I better not pass this deal up! Even after the bad experience I had with my last purchase. Cool!

By the way, do you think we should start another thread just for the HD7300? And should we start it on the under $3000 forum?

By the way, do you think we should start another thread just for the HD7300? And should we start it on the under $3000 forum?Hmmm... I guess the three retailers I just peaked at show the MSRP still at well over $3K. Perhaps it should stay here so that the 7100 owners and any previous purchasers of the 7300 (were there many?) can easily find it to participate should they choose.

My $.02, Cheers!

Hmmm... I guess the three retailers I just peaked at show the MSRP still at well over $3K. Perhaps it should stay here so that the 7100 owners and any previous purchasers of the 7300 (were there many?) can easily find it to participate should they choose.

My $.02, Cheers!

I am fine with that. I do think that putting HD7300 in the title would be good, however. Don't you think?

Yes, I think maybe just ask the Moderator to change the title of THIS thread to include the HD7300.

Yes, I think maybe just ask the Moderator to change the title of THIS thread to include the HD7300.

That is a good idea. Will they just read this and do it, or do we have to PM someone or something like that?

Could it be that someone is watching me type this right now? :eek: Its not like Halloween or anything, is it?

The 7100 is just the HD7300 without the very fine deinterlacing and switching. Both basically the same machines with the same CR (5700.1) and brightness results, plus super optics. Which are very high levels. Each excellent in their own right. Id' be happy with either.

The 7100 is just the HD7300 without the very fine deinterlacing and switching. Both basically the same machines with the same CR (5700.1) and brightness results, plus super optics. Which are very high levels. Each excellent in their own right. Id' be happy with either.

Hey Guitarman--

Can you answer the question for us whether the HD3000 that we will get with this PJ has the newer better chip with 1080P capability. Just wondering for future use with my next PJ.

Thanks,

bdbaba

Hey Guitarman--

Can you answer the question for us whether the HD3000 that we will get with this PJ has the newer better chip with 1080P capability. Just wondering for future use with my next PJ.

Thanks,

bdbaba

He can't make a blanket statement because neither he or I know the date of manufacturing of new units. Maybe they've been siiting in a wharehouse for a long time. The manual calls out the older chip. The only thing you can do is when you receive your unit determine the date of manufacture and pop the cover and look at the chip number. There usually marked on the top of the IC.
This assumes there's no sticker that if broken will void your warranty.

Hey Guitarman--

Can you answer the question for us whether the HD3000 that we will get with this PJ has the newer better chip with 1080P capability. Just wondering for future use with my next PJ.

Thanks,

bdbaba

From my readings of the video processing forum, it is my understanding that both chips, the old and the new, are capable of 1080p.
However, my question is if the processors bundled up with the HD7300 are somehow "restricted" at manufacture to 720p max.
Users of the HD7300, could you please check the output resolution menu of your processors and tell us if 1080p can be selected? If you do not have a 1080p display connected to the processor, do not implement the selection, just let us know if 1080p can be selected in the menu.
Thanks.

My guess is that newegg shipping is completely screwed up. From what I understand, those of you who who ordered from this link, the one without the bulb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889219002 got the additional bulb.

I heard that one of you checked with their customer support, and Optoma support and was asked to order from this link, to get the additional bulb:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824219047

Well, I ordered from that link, and I was sent the wrong box, one without the bulb... I am pissed:mad:

My guess is that newegg shipping is completely screwed up. From what I understand, those of you who who ordered from this link, the one without the bulb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889219002 got the additional bulb.

I heard that one of you checked with their customer support, and Optoma support and was asked to order from this link, to get the additional bulb:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824219047

Well, I ordered from that link, and I was sent the wrong box, one without the bulb... I am pissed:mad:



Which link did you order from? Looks like I got the bulb yesterday and am waiting for the pj to arrive today. The bulb had a different shipping UPS number

Below is what shows on my order. So far, I have gotten only one box. I guess I should be waiting for the other box.

Optoma HD7300+BLFP250A 1280 x 720 DLP DLP Home Theater Projector With Lamp
Item #: N82E16824219047
Return Policy: Manufacturer Warranty

How many tracking numbers were on your oder page?

Thanks

Below is what shows on my order. So far, I have gotten only one box. I guess I should be waiting for the other box.

Optoma HD7300+BLFP250A 1280 x 720 DLP DLP Home Theater Projector With Lamp
Item #: N82E16824219047
Return Policy: Manufacturer Warranty

How many tracking numbers were on your oder page?

Thanks

just 1 . The tracking number is for the one I'm waiting on. The 1 on the bulb was different.

Very interesting... I am online with newegg.

It is possible that my bulb will show up today. My HD7300 package came overnight to Dallas from Long Island :D

check ups tracking link that newegg sent you to varify saying two boxes or one.
Each has a different tracking#. It could be that it is on its way.

I never got a tracking number email. Like mkoss, there is one on my order, that is for HD7300 pack.

Yup I know. They sent you a link for your order.
Once you click on it then click on "view". There would be a UPS tracking.
copy it and go to UPS site paste it in tracking window and look under "multiple packages" see if its 2 or 1.
They bundle them under the same tracking but they actually have two tracking #'s one for each.

@CaspianM, 'you da man' ... my bulb is on its way.

@CaspianM, 'you da man' ... my bulb is on its way.

Got both now. Now I just have to sneak it in the house without little wifey finding out

Mine works from home, so there is no more sneaking in... I have to explain what a great deal it is... and how quickly I am going to sell the 7100.

Got mine and went over it quickly.
So far so good and PQ is outstanding with excellent brightness in low lamp onto 110" diag unity screen. I will hook up the HD3000 tonight but as a standalone pj it is a good one as well.

Got mine and went over it quickly.
So far so good and PQ is outstanding with excellent brightness in low lamp onto 110" diag unity screen. I will hook up the HD3000 tonight but as a standalone pj it is a good one as well.

Just curious did you pay attention to any startup sequence? How do you chose
low power vs high power on startup? WHat was your source?

I have not read the manual yet just played a bit today.
The lamp setting in under "bright mode" I think and default is low lamp.
My source was Directv HR-200 hd dvr via DVI. DVI is what the pj looks first.

Out of box the black level is not as good as my Sony HHS51a but it is about rwice or so brighter with contrast at default.
Color I still like the Sony's better in purity and sony looks more natural but these are only early observation. Also it certainly looks smoother than the Sony.

I will post a review once I get used to all the settings and have it calibrated.

Edit: there is econ mode under the "option" menu and on the pj to control the lamp mode.

I have not read the manual yet just played a bit today.
The lamp setting in under "bright mode" I think and default is low lamp.
My source was Directv HR-200 hd dvr via DVI. DVI is what the pj looks first.

So your saying on initial powerup it defaults to eco mode

Hit the econ on the top of the pj and find out.
Mine out of box was in low lamp.

Hit the econ on the top of the pj and find out.
Mine out of box was in low lamp.

I was reading the manual, which isn't very informative, but 1 thing jumped out at me was this feature that allows auto shutdown if left on, if a source is not detected or if inputs are idle for some time which may be related to these bulb misfires. Just a thought.

I was reading the manual, which isn't very informative, but 1 thing jumped out at me was this feature that allows auto shutdown if left on, if a source is not detected or if inputs are idle for some time which may be related to these bulb misfires. Just a thought.

The Marantz does this as well.

Out of box the black level is not as good as my Sony HHS51a but it is about rwice or so brighter with contrast at default.
Color I still like the Sony's better in purity and sony looks more natural but these are only early observation. Also it certainly looks smoother than the Sony.

I will post a review once I get used to all the settings and have it calibrated.

Edit: there is econ mode under the "option" menu and on the pj to control the lamp mode.

Are you saying that the Blacks on an LCD are better then the DLP HD7300? That is either a great LCD or the HD7300 might be a bit disappointing.

This is not a bash on LCD--I had a Panny AE900U. Just wondering out loud.

Sony has high on/off contrast. It uses a DI (dynamic iris) to achieve that.
The main strenght of DLP is ansi contrast not really on/off compared to new LCD's.

After proper calibration, the black level of the 7100/7300 will beat out the Panny900 and the HS51. I have not seen the Optoma in action, but after reading up a TON on the 7100/7300 this past week, there is no doubt in my mind.

I just received my 7300 from NewEgg and am VERY happy with the PQ. (With just a DVD test and no HD3000) Unfortunetly, even in low mode the projector seems quite loud to me. The fan noise seems to consist of turbulence and occasional vibrations.

Is this loud fan noise typical for DLP FPs? If so, it explains the lack of new short throw models coming out as one would think a less obtrusive projector is needed for a smaller room. How do other 7300 owners feel about the noise of this unit? Is it louder than other models?

I looked at some LCD FPs that seemed FAR quieter (at least in the store) but I was not blown away by their PQ. I guess one has to choose between silence or PQ at this price point.

After proper calibration, the black level of the 7100/7300 will beat out the Panny900 and the HS51. I have not seen the Optoma in action, but after reading up a TON on the 7100/7300 this past week, there is no doubt in my mind.

HS51 yes but not 51A. There is a huge difference between them in contrast.
Having said that I did a rough RGB calibration and 7300 looks very good and black level is close to my Sony.
Fan noise is louder than the Sony but it is not overly load.
By no means it is deal breaker for me. It depends how close it is installed to walls/ceiling/sitting position as well.

I hooked my pjr yesterday and I could not get the hd3000 to work yet,now I have my dvd player set up to 60Hz and I can play Ntsc movies at 60Hz. the pjr works perfectly with the component cable and composite (conected straight to the pjr), it detect the signals very fast and it change to pal and ntsc or 60Hz and 50 Hz without a problem at all. when I change to DVI the projector keep serching and don´t find the signal, the dvd player is hooked up to th hd 3000 through component and composite and I have a HDMI cable going from the scaler to the pjr.

Am I doing anynthing wrong, is there anyway to get the menu back? i tried with the UP key and I wait a few seconds and it did not work,.

I´m not able to get the menu screen like it did the first time I conected it..

I need some help.

mine showed up yesterday w the extra bulb. i wont have time to mess w it for a bit, my theater rooms under construction, but...can anyone recomend a good $100 or less ceiling mount?

thx!

lear

Did you guys see when these units were made... the only date I could find outside the package was 2006.5.xx

I hooked my pjr yesterday and I could not get the hd3000 to work yet,now I have my dvd player set up to 60Hz and I can play Ntsc movies at 60Hz. the pjr works perfectly with the component cable and composite (conected straight to the pjr), it detect the signals very fast and it change to pal and ntsc or 60Hz and 50 Hz without a problem at all. when I change to DVI the projector keep serching and don´t find the signal, the dvd player is hooked up to th hd 3000 through component and composite and I have a HDMI cable going from the scaler to the pjr.

Am I doing anynthing wrong, is there anyway to get the menu back? i tried with the UP key and I wait a few seconds and it did not work,.

I´m not able to get the menu screen like it did the first time I conected it..

I need some help.

I'll be guessing here, but on the scalers remote make sure you hit the connection that's hooked up, using the projectors remote for DVI isn't enough.

I hooked my pjr yesterday and I could not get the hd3000 to work yet,now I have my dvd player set up to 60Hz and I can play Ntsc movies at 60Hz. the pjr works perfectly with the component cable and composite (conected straight to the pjr), it detect the signals very fast and it change to pal and ntsc or 60Hz and 50 Hz without a problem at all. when I change to DVI the projector keep serching and don´t find the signal, the dvd player is hooked up to th hd 3000 through component and composite and I have a HDMI cable going from the scaler to the pjr.

Am I doing anynthing wrong, is there anyway to get the menu back? i tried with the UP key and I wait a few seconds and it did not work,.

I´m not able to get the menu screen like it did the first time I conected it..

I need some help.

POLI,
I would first try to just use only the component connection from the DVD player to the HD3000. Disconnect the composite cables. You can have different sources connected to your projector through the various inputs; however, the source/projector may not accept to share two different signals at the same time.
You have got me confused about the 60/50 Hz frequencies you are mentioning from your first post on. Are/were you talking about what you see from the projector in the lower right hand corner at start up? That information is the signal the projector sees from de the source you are using. POLI, you may be confusing the projector’s V-frequencies with your local electricity supply frequency.
If you take a look at your projector user’s manual cd, towards the end you will see the Video Compatibility Chart (pg. 61 in my manual). Now, take a look at the HD3000 user manual output menu:
The following are the resolutions and frequencies the HD3000 can output:
• 1280x720p 50/60/72 Hz (default 60Hz)
• 1024x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for some 16x9 Plasma TVs)
• 1280x768p 50/60/72 Hz (Native resolution for LCD TV and plasma TV)
• 1366x768p 50/60 Hz (Native resolution for 16x9 plasma TV)
• 1920x1080p 48/50/60 Hz
As you can see, every output signal has a choice of frequencies. I would leave them at “default” for now.
Notice that your projector through the DVI connector can see and show 1280x720 and 1024x768 for sure. It may also be able to see and show the others, except 1920x1080p.

For now, the projector should be set in the automatic signal detection mode. If it is not, go to the options menu, source select and choose: auto. You may have to connect it directly to the DVD player to do this. Then, connect the DVD player to the processor through component and the processor to projector through DVI to HDMI cable. Turn the DVD player and the processor on and finally turn on the projector. If you see your DVD’s start up logo, bingo you can now choose the processor output signal as per the manual. If after a minute or two, the projector still shows as signal searching, then press once the "up" button on the processor’s front panel and wait for a while; keep doing this until you see the start up logo and the type of signal the projector is receiving. Once the start up logo becomes visible, if necessary, change the processor output signal to 1280x720 (projector's native resolution) as per the manual.
Good luck and let us know how you make out.
Fermin.:)

I just boutght my stereo one month ago and this has been the first time I have hooked my dvd player, now I know it is multisystem, the dvd logo is NTSC 60hz as the default set up. the first time I hooked up the projector with the scaler and the dvd player (component only)I was playing a PAL 50Hz movie, I got the scaler working,but I could see the movie at 60 Hz(with interference lines) I went into the resolution menu to see what was the resolution and it was set up 720P 60hz, I had no other option to choose from, that was the only one. I knew about the "up" key, I turned off the HD3000, Turned it on again hit the up key and the projector don´t find the dvi (botton right) it always say serching.and don´t have access to the hd3000
the projector tell me every signal so I know what is 50 or 60 HZ, this scaler should take anything as per the instructions, when is working properly.


I´m going to try again and make sure I press the right source in the remote control of the HD3000 and use only the component cable to the hd3000, I try do do best I can. I will let you know how everything work tonight.

Jose.

Just wanted to give a quick heads up to those waiting for this to come back in stock at NewEgg. The 7300 w/o the extra lamp (although there have been reports that it does indeed come with the extra lamp) shows back in stock at this time. I was just able to place my order.

There are two item numbers, one ending in 9002, that's the one that shows in stock. The other one, ending in 9047 still shows pending stock on 11/6.

Luck all,
George

Just wanted to give a quick heads up to those waiting for this to come back in stock at NewEgg. The 7300 w/o the extra lamp (although there have been reports that it does indeed come with the extra lamp) shows back in stock at this time. I was just able to place my order.

There are two item numbers, one ending in 9002, that's the one that shows in stock. The other one, ending in 9047 still shows pending stock on 11/6.

Luck all,
George
Well now, this presents an interesting dilemma. Do I gamble on getting the extra lamp? :eek:

but...can anyone recomend a good $100 or less ceiling mount?

thx!

lear


This is what I use...

VANTAGE POINT CGUPM12-S Universal Front Projector Mount

Amazon and others carry it... try froogling or pricegrabber for CGUPM12-S. It is about $75.

Well now, this presents an interesting dilemma. Do I gamble on getting the extra lamp? :eek:

N8M, newegg says there is a limit of 20 per customer.... on 9002... hopefully, they won't run out in a couple of days... 11/6 is next Tuesday and N82E16824219047 is supposed to be in stock by then.

Couple of questions for Guitarman and others... how do I tell which firmware revision is on the projector and the scaler?

Couple of questions for Guitarman and others... how do I tell which firmware revision is on the projector and the scaler?

Has anyone that has received theirs checked this out? Anyone opened up the Scaler to see what chip is inside?

N8M, newegg says there is a limit of 20 per customer.... on 9002... hopefully, they won't run out in a couple of days... 11/6 is next Tuesday and N82E16824219047 is supposed to be in stock by then.
There are only 12 left as I post this. :eek:

There are only 12 left as I post this. :eek:

I may be sorry but I am waiting.

Mike

There are only 12 left as I post this. :eek:

How are you checking the stock?

Edit... never mind... figured it out :D

I just boutght my stereo one month ago and this has been the first time I have hooked my dvd player, now I know it is multisystem, the dvd logo is NTSC 60hz as the default set up. the first time I hooked up the projector with the scaler and the dvd player (component only)I was playing a PAL 50Hz movie, I got the scaler working,but I could see the movie at 60 Hz(with interference lines) I went into the resolution menu to see what was the resolution and it was set up 720P 60hz, I had no other option to choose from, that was the only one. I knew about the "up" key, I turned off the HD3000, Turned it on again hit the up key and the projector don´t find the dvi (botton right) it always say serching.and don´t have access to the hd3000
the projector tell me every signal so I know what is 50 or 60 HZ, this scaler should take anything as per the instructions, when is working properly.


I´m going to try again and make sure I press the right source in the remote control of the HD3000 and use only the component cable to the hd3000, I try do do best I can. I will let you know how everything work tonight.

Jose.

Did you get it to work?

Well, I couldn't resist. and just ordered the 7300 package. The plan is to use the scaler with my new Marantz VP4001 and sell the Optoma and bulb as a 7100, but if it works out to have better or the same picture quality as the Marantz then I'll flip it.

Either way I figure I'm getting a 1080P scaler for free.

:)

I tried last night, it did not work, my pjr is set up now for "AUTO"; I ordered a 10 meter rca cable; when I receive it I will play with it again; I´going to get a dvd player with HDMI; so I will hook it up straight to the projector; if the pjr find the DVI; I know for sure my hd3000 is my problem, but I will try miltlple choices of conections, I wil have 3 dvd players hooked up to the scaler I Hope it find the logo of any of them. one of them will be component(progressive scanning)the other one HDMI and the last one composite.

Did you get yours to work yet CaspianM?

I have just found this in the HD3000 user manual:
"The HD3000 supports
high resolution DLP projectors, plasma TVs and LCD TVs with the following native high
definition display resolutions:
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1366x769
1980x1080
Not all displays or projectors are capable of receiving and displaying their complete
list of resolutions. Please refer to the documentation that came with your projector or
display for the exact compatibility match. Certain versions of the HD3000 have been
factory preset for a single output range."(My underlining):confused:
Can any user of the HD7300 please confirm if the processor is capable of outputting 1980x1080 signals? If a 1080p display is not available to try please just tell us if the 1080p resolution can be selected in the output resolution menu of the processor.
Thanks

I tried last night, it did not work, my pjr is set up now for "AUTO"; I ordered a 10 meter rca cable; when I receive it I will play with it again; I´going to get a dvd player with HDMI; so I will hook it up straight to the projector; if the pjr find the DVI; I know for sure my hd3000 is my problem, but I will try miltlple choices of conections, I wil have 3 dvd players hooked up to the scaler I Hope it find the logo of any of them. one of them will be component(progressive scanning)the other one HDMI and the last one composite.

Poli, just an idea. The manual is unclear as to whether you need to bridge the processor's connectors "hdmi to av receiver" to "hdmi from av receiver" when using component inputs from the dvd player.
If you have not bridged these connectors you may wish to try that first and then go through the rest of the procedure.
Good luck.
Fermin.

Well, I couldn't resist. and just ordered the 7300 package. The plan is to use the scaler with my new Marantz VP4001 and sell the Optoma and bulb as a 7100, but if it works out to have better or the same picture quality as the Marantz then I'll flip it.

Either way I figure I'm getting a 1080P scaler for free.

:)

I assume you have ordered it from Newegg. Since it is not mentioned in the add, how do you know that the offer includes the free bulb? Are you just assuming it is included?
Pls. let us know if Newegg has confirmed the offer includes the extra bulb.
Thanks.

Holy crap! No one mentioned that they were even back in stock. As soon as someone, ANYONE, can confirm that the new stock comes with the extra bulb, then I'm puting my order in.
Thanks.

The other listing with the extra bulb still states... Out of Stock (ETA:11/06/2007).

Holy crap! No one mentioned that they were even back in stock. As soon as someone, ANYONE, can confirm that the new stock comes with the extra bulb, then I'm puting my order in.
Thanks.
My order from the ...9002 item number from NewEgg is scheduled to arrive on Monday (unfortunately, UPS delivers late in my area) and I will post just as soon as I open my box as to the extra bulb.

Others have reported getting the extra bulb with this ...9002 order, that is why I didn't wait to pull the trigger.

Some have reported getting their order in two separate boxes from UPS, and others all three (projector, processor and bulb) in the same box. I'm wondering if NewEgg is getting the ...9002 items from Optoma in a single box and the ...9047 items from Optoma with the extra bulb outside the box for the projector and processor? Maybe that would explain why some are getting a single box and others two boxes from NewEgg.

I will be crushed if I don't get the extra bulb with my order. Either way, we all will know some time on Monday.

Good weekend all,
George

BTW, my order is sitting at UPS just 10 miles from my home. So close, yet so far...

My order from the ...9002 item number from NewEgg is scheduled to arrive on Monday (unfortunately, UPS delivers late in my area) and I will post just as soon as I open my box as to the extra bulb.

Others have reported getting the extra bulb with this ...9002 order, that is why I didn't wait to pull the trigger.

Some have reported getting their order in two separate boxes from UPS, and others all three (projector, processor and bulb) in the same box. I'm wondering if NewEgg is getting the ...9002 items from Optoma in a single box and the ...9047 items from Optoma with the extra bulb outside the box for the projector and processor? Maybe that would explain why some are getting a single box and others two boxes from NewEgg.

I will be crushed if I don't get the extra bulb with my order. Either way, we all will know some time on Monday.

Good weekend all,
George

BTW, my order is sitting at UPS just 10 miles from my home. So close, yet so far...

Thanks for the response and clarifications. Please do report back ASAP as to what you DO receive. I'm looking forward to it.:)

As for your assumptions about the seperate boxes, that seems to make sense. I'm just concerned about it now being NEW STOCK and the possibility of it not including the new bulb. You would think that Newegg would fix the listing to show that the item DOES include the extra bulb.

I hope you DO get that bulb of couse. That is what is essentially making me squeeze the trigger on this pj. I would be absolutely devastated if I received the pj without it, thus do not want to take the chance on placing the order based on hope.

Good luck and thanks again.:)

FGM, when I got my HD3000 working, it only show one resolution; you don´t see anyother.

I tried last night, it did not work, my pjr is set up now for "AUTO"; I ordered a 10 meter rca cable; when I receive it I will play with it again; I´going to get a dvd player with HDMI; so I will hook it up straight to the projector; if the pjr find the DVI; I know for sure my hd3000 is my problem, but I will try miltlple choices of conections, I wil have 3 dvd players hooked up to the scaler I Hope it find the logo of any of them. one of them will be component(progressive scanning)the other one HDMI and the last one composite.

Did you get yours to work yet CaspianM?

You need to bridge the swicher to the scaler with the supplied short HDMI cable. It goes from receiver out to in in the back.:)

I have just found this in the HD3000 user manual:
"The HD3000 supports
high resolution DLP projectors, plasma TVs and LCD TVs with the following native high
definition display resolutions:
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1366x769
1980x1080
Not all displays or projectors are capable of receiving and displaying their complete
list of resolutions. Please refer to the documentation that came with your projector or
display for the exact compatibility match. Certain versions of the HD3000 have been
factory preset for a single output range."(My underlining):confused:
Can any user of the HD7300 please confirm if the processor is capable of outputting 1980x1080 signals? If a 1080p display is not available to try please just tell us if the 1080p resolution can be selected in the output resolution menu of the processor.
Thanks


Here is my understanding of it. It can output 1080P only not 1080i but HD3000 locks into the native rez of the pj it is seeing. It will not output 1080p to a 720p PJ.

It looks much cleaner, smoother and more 3d with the scaler. Hook it up guys.

Does the scaler accept 1080p or 1080i and scale it to 720p? I would imagine the scaler in this thing would be better than the hddvd players and the ps3 for movies.

Does the scaler accept 1080p or 1080i and scale it to 720p? I would imagine the scaler in this thing would be better than the hddvd players and the ps3 for movies.
It is my understanding that the scaler/processor should KILL any DVD player, TV, Projector, sat/cable box (any source really)at scaling. I mean, what's the point anyways?

I have a Westinghouse 1080p LCD and I'm hoping to send it 1080p from the scaler and also 720p to my projector. I am also very interested in the timings. I want the projector to see 72hz for DVD movies and 60hz for HD TV. This might be what interests me most, trying to eliminate 2:3 pulldown with dvd's.

George

Does the scaler accept 1080p or 1080i and scale it to 720p? I would imagine the scaler in this thing would be better than the hddvd players and the ps3 for movies.


It (the scaler) accepts 1080i, 720p, 480i but not 1080p. It outputs 720p and 1080p 60 and 24. I am not sure if the switcher will accepts 1080p or not for switching. It is a hi grade scaler but has limitations in features. Gennum scaler has been widely used in Denon products.

It is my understanding that the scaler/processor should KILL any DVD player, TV, Projector, sat/cable box (any source really)at scaling. I mean, what's the point anyways?

I have a Westinghouse 1080p LCD and I'm hoping to send it 1080p from the scaler and also 720p to my projector. I am also very interested in the timings. I want the projector to see 72hz for DVD movies and 60hz for HD TV. This might be what interests me most, trying to eliminate 2:3 pulldown with dvd's.

George

Would you pls. let us know if you can get the processor to feed 1080p to your 1080p display?
Thanks

Would you pls. let us know if you can get the processor to feed 1080p to your 1080p display?
Thanks
Definitely just as soon as I can get it. I will also report on whether or not I get the extra bulb with my ...9002 order ;(

George

Definitely just as soon as I can get it. I will also report on whether or not I get the extra bulb with my ...9002 order ;(

George
Time once again for me to polish up the "sold last winter for ~$4K, net price of $1K gets you a great pj- 4 times as good as ours, about a free $2K processor/switcher that saves hundreds :rolleyes: on having to run new cables up in the ceiling, short throw DLP's are a dying breed, NEVER gonna see another deal like this (her-:rolleyes:) type speech.... I hope I'm not reduced to groveling, but I'll do what I have to. :)

Gents- don't ever marry a bank officer, they want WAY to much justification and proof for everything you buy. :p

Anxious to hear whether that 9002 has the extra bulb or not.

Cheers!

I received the HD7300 on Wednesday and the bulb on Thursday. First thing I did was to hook up the projector alone to my HTPC..., via HDMI, awesome image, everything syncs well. I use Nokia NTEST to see if the projector is displaying 1280x720, the entire rectangular grid is displayed... I am a happy camper.

Friday, I decide to hook up the HD3000 scaler. As the HTPC (HDMI1) boots up, the projector and the scaler syncs. I am happy so far. I add the Dishnetwork receiver to the mix, switch to HDMI2 (DN), the image shows up fine for couple of hours. I finish watching the show, try to see if I can switch back to the PC... it doesn't.

I bypass the scaler, and try to connect the HTPC directly to the projector, the HTPC does not recognize the projector at all. It was doing so when I first hooked these up.

I put the scaler back in the mix, the HTPC recognizes the scaler/projector.

I bring up Nokia NTest, and I notice that while the projector is being fed through the scaler, I do not get 1:1 pixel mapping, even though the projector and scaler menu options are set to "Native". Few of the top pixels, and few of the right pixels are cut off by the projector/scaler, I can't tell which, as the projector cannot be fed directly from the HTPC via HDMI now.

I use the HTPC to watch OTA HDTV...

The reason I got rid of the Sony HS51 was because it couldn't do 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI... everything I read said this projector could... but now I am very disappointed.

I am calling Optoma Monday morning... there is at least one other person here for whom the HDMI input went south after a few hours. There has to be firmware fix or something to correct this issue.

It does full mapping even with analog signal.
Either your porches are messed up or perhaps you are on 16x9 mode.
Hit the pixel mapping on your hd7300's remote first if problem persists then tweak your porches. HTPC is always is a headache imo.

I received the HD7300 on Wednesday and the bulb on Thursday.

When did you place your order?

Thanks.

When did you place your order?

Thanks.

I placed my order friday night. Got the bulb wednesday and the pj thursday

I placed the order Sunday night.

Over VGA D-SUB15, there are no issues. The entire image is displayed. Is there an overscan control on the HD3000?

I placed the order Sunday night.

Over VGA D-SUB15, there are no issues. The entire image is displayed. Is there an overscan control on the HD3000?

I placed my order on October 27th and I am still in step 5. No tracking number and it says will ship in 1 to2 business days. Bummer.

Can the video processor that comes with the HD7300 put out a 1080p signal? Can 1080p be selected in the output resolution menu of the processor?
Anybody? Please. I need to know this and if it comes with the extra bulb for orders placed after the re-stocking.
Thanks.

I placed the order Sunday night.

Over VGA D-SUB15, there are no issues. The entire image is displayed. Is there an overscan control on the HD3000?

It does have zoom and blanking which should be set to default.

What is blanking??

What is blanking??

It is side masking which make the picture smaller sorta like cropping unlike zoom that crops the picture but maintaining the size. It is CRT term that I mistakenly used.

Those of you who have HD3000, can you please look and see what the firmware date is?

You can see that as the last line when you go to the "System" tab in OSD.

My firmware date is 2006/05/04.

Did you see "resolution" under the System tab?